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65: Ranking Rocky Villains |#TheBaldBrothersPodcast · The Bald Brothers Podcast

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  Speaker 1: All right, y'all. Welcome man, Welcome in Patreon. Thank y'all
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  Speaker 1: for your boy today, Tony Today Today, as I live
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  Speaker 1: with Kevin Stage.
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  Speaker 2: And Tony Baker.
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  Speaker 1: Man. We just made this podcast up because we were
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  Speaker 1: friends and we wanted to do a podcast together. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't care how any podcasts are in the world.
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  Speaker 1: Watch another one, listen to another one. There's never enough
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  Speaker 1: content in the world. All right, today's episode, we're kicking
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  Speaker 1: it off. We are ranking. Are we ranking them?
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  Speaker 3: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: From top to body?
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  Speaker 2: Decide everyone spinoffs movies in this In this we spinoffs.
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  Speaker 1: Spinoffs included top ten, top ten, top five? Is it?
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  Speaker 1: Is there nothing for to.
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  Speaker 3: If we're ranking all of them? We just rank them?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? Okay, okay, ranking Rocky villains. You got a cute
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  Speaker 1: you got all the villains? Qu Up, I know the villains,
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  Speaker 1: you know the villains. Let's hear it. Man need this, But.
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  Speaker 3: I'm fumbling the names on the creed joints.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, we're talking about Oh you mean that's what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Oh you know, I mean we're Rocky is the fighter.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, alright, so just Rockyers no no, no.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no no, because he didn't fight Oh you mean
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  Speaker 1: the last one that he fought, Yes, but not a Dona,
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  Speaker 1: although Johnathan Major's villa was great. But just Rockies villain,
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  Speaker 1: just the rock the Rocky villain, Rocky villains in the
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  Speaker 1: Rocky movie. Let's get it all right, Well, first up,
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  Speaker 1: who we got. Let's just get the names. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: name them all. Apollo Creed, Oh snap, he is the villain.
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  Speaker 1: It becomes the friend for the first two.
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  Speaker 3: Is him?
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  Speaker 1: I don't only forgot because they become friends. Dan, I'm
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  Speaker 1: all messed up already. Creed is the villain in the
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  Speaker 1: first the Rocky and y'all forget Rocky Boston Rocky one.
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  Speaker 1: He did so good for he lost. That's why Creed
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  Speaker 1: was pissed off. Okay, Polo Creed.
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  Speaker 2: Follow Creed twice, Clubber Lane, I love Clupper Okay, Drago, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Tommy I hated tom Me gun.
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  Speaker 1: He turned his back on Rocky following the alley bare neck.
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  Speaker 2: O and uh what's his name? And Tony it's not
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  Speaker 2: Antonio and that's it.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, Wait, wasn't there like seven movies.
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  Speaker 3: No, Rocky Bull was the last Rocky.
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  Speaker 1: So he fought creating wanting to clever Lane.
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  Speaker 3: You want if you.
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  Speaker 1: Technically let's start holding in at the bottom. So three
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  Speaker 1: is cluver Lane is the early villain. No, clever Lane
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  Speaker 1: is the villain. Yeah, because clever Lane.
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  Speaker 2: Was Colubber Lane was going for the jugging, wasn't. No,
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  Speaker 2: I ain't gonna be your friend after this. That ain't
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  Speaker 2: a followed, Cree. Now I ain't your friend. I'll be
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  Speaker 2: I'll show you wife a good time. I'll show Adrian
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  Speaker 2: what a real man looked like. Rocky ball Boy. You
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  Speaker 2: tell Adrian to come on down to where I'm.
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  Speaker 3: At, Cree.
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  Speaker 1: Clever Lane is with who Rocky becomes in Rocky four
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  Speaker 1: because he got to get out the mud and Rocky
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  Speaker 1: four in Russia. Yeah, clever Lane was in the basement
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  Speaker 1: with no equipment. Rocky was all Ferrari was rich, the
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  Speaker 1: money boy. He squandered the money man. Clever Lane was
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  Speaker 1: like man, Big James.
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  Speaker 3: Clean, Big James Cleveland dunk.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, man, Okay, shout out to mister d all right.
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  Speaker 2: So let's let's go bottom up, okay, Right, Timmy is
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  Speaker 2: at the bottom.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get it out there.
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  Speaker 1: We gotta keep talk hooking inn exhibition to thenks and
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  Speaker 1: then why you hate Tommy so bad?
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  Speaker 2: I mean it was just a Rocky five is just
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  Speaker 2: bottom tiers, easily the worst Rocket, easily the worst Rocky.
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  Speaker 3: And it was just like I just didn't like how
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  Speaker 3: he turned on Rocky.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't feel like it didn't feel like it was warranted. No,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't like.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, there was no build up to it,
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  Speaker 2: there was nothing to make to make it believable.
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  Speaker 3: Why Tommy would turn on Rocket?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just like, wait, why Yeah, right here
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  Speaker 1: in the streets, it's like a street fighter background.
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  Speaker 3: He was like yeah, in the touch me in out suit.
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  Speaker 1: That part was funny, touch me suit. He looked just
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  Speaker 1: like dark.
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  Speaker 3: Kids he did.
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  Speaker 1: You got Tommy at the very bottom, including hawkholder.
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  Speaker 2: No disrespect to tom in real life. He passed away recipes.
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  Speaker 2: But man, get him out. Didn't get him up out
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  Speaker 2: of here. With all that being said, get him the
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  Speaker 2: hell out of it, all right.
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  Speaker 1: Who's next? You gotta be ho Hogan?
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  Speaker 3: Man? Yeah, that was silly.
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  Speaker 2: Well that was a circus and that what the hell
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  Speaker 2: was going on here? And then then you don't realize
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  Speaker 2: how big Hulk Hogan is until you see it with
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  Speaker 2: a normal shorter Yeah, you know, semesters, the loan was
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  Speaker 2: not tall. But when we see Hulk Hogan growing up
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  Speaker 2: watching Hulk Hogan them other wrestlers, was big.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And you see him fight Andre and the giant Hok hold. Look, Miniscy.
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  Speaker 2: He is the he is the David in that Mann.
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  Speaker 2: But then when you see Hog Hogan in the rocket ring,
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  Speaker 2: You're like, wait, Honk Hogan is that tall?
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  Speaker 1: Clawn had mercy Hong Hoogan came with the body with
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  Speaker 1: the side from the jump man. I was the kid.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, he's really comforted.
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  Speaker 3: Was look this, there's nothing in the middle in the
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  Speaker 3: upper back.
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  Speaker 1: When he was in court, he had his professional black due.
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  Speaker 1: So I can't go with the red and yellow accamedia
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  Speaker 1: for cors. Seriously, I gotta get the you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, the tablecloth black.
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  Speaker 2: He was killing all right, man, look out man, we
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  Speaker 2: know what you do.
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  Speaker 1: Brother Johnna, you know saying, I'll see you in your chambers.
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  Speaker 4: Your brother, I'm a woman, I know, sister brother, sister brother,
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  Speaker 4: listen the case the case question brother.
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  Speaker 1: Oh all right, So Hogan's number. He's second worst, so
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  Speaker 1: we gotta go Tarbor next.
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  Speaker 3: Tarbor.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Tarvor. He's just not really memorable as a film now.
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  Speaker 1: He's just a real boxer that I knew was a boxer.
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  Speaker 1: But story wise, I was just like, cool, man, it's cool.
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  Speaker 2: They got a real boxer. And it was like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: but there was no real there was really no real
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  Speaker 2: beef on. No, you know, like they said, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Rocket could statistically beat you, and it was just like it,
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  Speaker 2: I'll take him on. And then exhibition. That was exhibition.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't care. I didn't care at all.
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  Speaker 3: Stakes was low.
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  Speaker 1: I was just watching Rocket because I watched Rocky right.
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  Speaker 1: I never even didn't even have a phone. I was
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  Speaker 1: looking at my phone in the future. It's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: crazy man.
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  Speaker 3: And it was a nice redemption from Rocky five.
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  Speaker 1: It was better than Rocky I remember Rocky five was like,
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  Speaker 1: not only is it a bad movie, Rocky four is
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  Speaker 1: my personal favorite Rocky movie. The drop off Mads five
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  Speaker 1: feel way worse because you have Drago. The Cold War,
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  Speaker 1: we was really afraid of Russia at that time. It
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  Speaker 1: was always like, you know, the war, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. Cold War wasn't that far away. So and
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  Speaker 1: then like I don't know how many how many years
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  Speaker 1: was it in between four or five?
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  Speaker 2: Four or five in that movie that Yes, Rocky five
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  Speaker 2: was nineteen ninety, Rocky four was eighty seven.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So it's not long enough to be that bad.
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  Speaker 2: No, because they had they had gaps like that in between,
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  Speaker 2: Like I think it was a couple of years between
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  Speaker 2: one and two.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a couple more years, maybe three.
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  Speaker 1: Between two and three, yep, yep.
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  Speaker 2: And then there was a probably the biggest gap was
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  Speaker 2: up until that point was between three and four.
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  Speaker 1: And then so I was still hype. Yeah, and then
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  Speaker 1: Tommy ain't. I was just like, yeah, you probably. I
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  Speaker 1: remember being like, y'all, don't.
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  Speaker 3: I like the fact that it was a street fight,
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  Speaker 3: that was the.
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  Speaker 1: Only thing, but it was. But I didn't care. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't care, and I hated Tommy even when Tommy was
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  Speaker 1: on his side. Tommy was not likable as a character.
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  Speaker 3: I just didn't like Tommy just.
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  Speaker 1: He had the mullet and stuff. He would have called
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  Speaker 1: you a nigga for show the show Man. I can
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  Speaker 1: see that the show.
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  Speaker 2: They knock you out when you're gonna do something about it, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: who are you calling it? Because he was knocking cats
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  Speaker 2: out in real life he was a.
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  Speaker 1: Little scanning man was he was wild.
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  Speaker 3: He was a wild boy.
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  Speaker 1: I remember feeling bad for Rocky. I was like, you
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  Speaker 1: cannot fight this dude. He's young.
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  Speaker 2: I always feel bad for Rocky. Rocky boy is such
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  Speaker 2: a nice guy man.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, he has a as a character. He's a lovable
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  Speaker 1: loof Yeah, and then he gets beat up.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: That's why the Creed movies Loki did he win an
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  Speaker 1: oscar for one of them?
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  Speaker 3: He got nominated for the first Creed.
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: The punched up older Rocky. I would lost it all.
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  Speaker 1: Don't even want to do this anymore. Sylvester Saloon played
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  Speaker 1: that role, Oh for sure, perfectly. I remember being like, man,
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  Speaker 1: this dude when he lost it was like he never
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  Speaker 1: got it back.
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  Speaker 3: Good.
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  Speaker 1: It's really a tragic story with a little piece of good.
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  Speaker 3: He was rich, get lost.
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  Speaker 1: What is gambling? Gambling?
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  Speaker 2: Gambling and squandering and making bad deals.
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  Speaker 3: Trash. His brother in law was trash from the junk
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  Speaker 3: he was.
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  Speaker 1: He was treating Adrian terrible. We just rewatched it with
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: the boys. We had to stop because there's some non
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  Speaker 1: consensual stuff that wouldn't fly today. When Rocky goes to
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  Speaker 1: Adrian's apartment, he puts his hand on the door, blocks her.
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: Just give me a kiss, man kiss. The boys were like, hey,
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: we were taught. It was cringe city. Rocky was saying
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  Speaker 1: that Rocky blocks her and he's like, I just want
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  Speaker 1: to know you didn't got to go nowhere. Just give
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: me a kill. No, this is the first date and
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: he goes a kisser. She's like, and I take you
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: And the kids were like, come on man. Isaaid looked
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: at it. He's like, man, when was this maid?
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: I was like, this is like Rocky was just taking it.
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: Then they was just like, no, you go give.
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: Me this with the door blocking posited, I was like,
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: now listen, boys, this is this is what we're talking.
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: I can see it because he obviously she does not
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  Speaker 1: want to be here. You never want to block her
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  Speaker 1: in a crime. This is a crime.
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  Speaker 3: She had social anxiety a time.
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  Speaker 1: She did We didn't go back was.
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  Speaker 2: Crippling, shyness, terble rocket All right, who we got next?
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  Speaker 1: This is where it's gonna get tough. We got Drago
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  Speaker 1: Clubver Lane Creed.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Drago next because Lane, because outside of
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: him actually killing Apollo Creed and it was harmless.
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  Speaker 1: Really, you couldn't take it dog. The thing that messed
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  Speaker 1: me up about the thing about that scene that was
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  Speaker 1: an exhibition bout. Yeah, that wasn't even a schedule for twelve.
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: It was supposed to be three three rounds and he
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  Speaker 1: in the black dude.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we always use that meme man throw the down man.
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  Speaker 2: But outside of the way Drago was set up is
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  Speaker 2: minimal personality.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, if he dies, he dies. It's just this
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  Speaker 3: is what we do.
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  Speaker 2: I like Drago better than the Creed movies because we
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  Speaker 2: get to see him as a human being. But it
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  Speaker 2: was just like a feeling the steaks, of course, that's
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  Speaker 2: what I was gonna says.
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  Speaker 1: And the intimidation factor because of like Drago was like
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  Speaker 1: towering or like cluver Lane. I mean cluver Lane and Creed,
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: like obviously they're better boxers, but they were like not
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: physically imposing to Rocky. So when he was fighting Creative,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, this is believable. When Drago was fighting him,
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, he's good, and he had killed Creed,
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  Speaker 1: who was a better boxer than Rocket, but now he's
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: a murderous exhibition or killer, but also being honest. That's
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  Speaker 1: the first Rocky movie I saw. And then I went back.
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, But I won't argue because
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: I feel like clever Lane.
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  Speaker 2: Clother Lane is killing him in personality though, man, clever Lane,
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  Speaker 2: clever Lane was just he he busted out of the
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: pages of the script.
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  Speaker 1: It was just and mister T was at his a pass.
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  Speaker 3: This is what made him a star.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, he first of all, he was so good like
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  Speaker 1: as an actor and even more than the A team.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: I love a team, be a Barrackets, big fan, but
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  Speaker 1: as clever Lane. I was like, man, man, he's he's hell.
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  Speaker 3: He had to get more of him. We was like, yo,
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: I need more mister T.
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  Speaker 1: He was coming to the press conference. It wasn't waiting
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  Speaker 1: his turn. I believe, man, shut up, fight me nat Man.
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  Speaker 1: He had the mister T haircut.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, Yo, this dude is wild.
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  Speaker 2: I love Drago though Trogo is great, is a great villain,
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  Speaker 2: but he's one note.
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  Speaker 1: He's a robot. There's a robot and he had all
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  Speaker 1: the stuff. Yeah, you know he was That's what I
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  Speaker 1: think what I love about it, and I agree personality wise,
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  Speaker 1: the Steaks seemed the highest. With Drago.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, for sure, we lost somebody.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: We lost some of the first time somebody died, yes,
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: well not I mean, I think Mickey died like the
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  Speaker 2: third one, but he wasn't murdered.
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was old. We knew it was coming.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and the Drago had no remorse for the murder.
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if he dies, he.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: Dies, I said, you gotta get him man cold. What
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: year was that ninety?
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  Speaker 3: Well for a rock for eighty seven?
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  Speaker 2: Was it eighty six or eighty seven?
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: Was eighty five?
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: It was eighty five?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the Rocky five is ninety ninety.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, so that was a big gap.
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  Speaker 1: Everything has three years except for Rocky four and five.
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  Speaker 1: Rocky four is older than I thought it was.
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  Speaker 3: Dang.
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  Speaker 1: My aunt had all these movies on.
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  Speaker 2: That's eighty five, hs, Dang, I was thinking it was
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  Speaker 2: eighty seven. But now that I think about it, I'm.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Gonna go with you.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: Also, I have the tiger theme song was pretty great
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  Speaker 2: in that movie too. That definitely helps Rocky. Rocky wait
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: out of the Tigers and Rocky three, that's four.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: That's four.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's what Rocky was the most I was the
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: most in.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: That's my favorite Rockey.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: He was like, man, I'm going to Russia. I'm chopping
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: trees and I'm running through the snow.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: I'm all alone.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: He didn't even have nobody in the camp with him.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: He was Dolo in Russia, like, I'm about to take you.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: It's very much miracle on ice. We're going against the Soviets,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. They had all those elements.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: It was eighties.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Drogo had the tall Russian wife.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Bridget Nielsen. Man, I liked her Bridge Nielsen.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: She was she was the woman of the din.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: He marry her Rocky, I think that was.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they were, they were together.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: He married for He was like, girl, Listenna, take it,
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: get in, get it on what we're trying to do,
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  Speaker 1: all right, So I feel like you're gonna go CLUBB
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  Speaker 1: Lang next club Lane. You got to go club CLUBB
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  Speaker 1: and Lang is next clubber Lane got to go.
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  Speaker 2: He had number two spot. He had number two spot though,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: and of course and Creed Pollo.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: Creed is number one.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: What a great because he morphed into like I always say,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: the best villains have layers, and he went from villain
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  Speaker 2: to a great friend, to a mentor, to a partner.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: It was just and he got the the he is
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: the reason for the spin off. And I was rooting
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: for a pollow Creed where and the first is like, man,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: I like a Polo Creed.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I don't want him to lose.
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  Speaker 3: So it was like.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: He's written for you to like Rocky Tony. He's like, man,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: watch man, I'm my mom to trade.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: About Harvor me the root against.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: He was so mad at Rocky when he just got close. Yeah,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: he was like fighting a kid. I got in lost.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Also recipes called Weather's Bad. Weathers was an amazing actor.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: One of my favorite things he was when he was
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: in Happy Gilmour with the head. It was so funny
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: type of gags. I'm never too old for him.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: He was like he was always he was using that
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: hand and that made it so funny to me. He
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: was like he got me, but I got his eye
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: or he was tapping the jaw was so big hand
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: because it made his arm look super long in the sweaters,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Like who gave him his hand?
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: I was crying at that. He was in that movie
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: a lot too. He was always in the yep. He
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: was the mentor.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah something was always happening into that hand throughout the movie.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Got crushed when he tried to shake it and he
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: was gluing it back together, and then it got knocked
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: off and then run over and he had to piece
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: it back together. Come on, man, there is no tomorrow.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: That line Apollo Creek, there is no tomorrow. You felt
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: that in your spirits.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Man. He was also really good. Was it Predator?
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: He was in Yes, as Jackson, him and Arnold have
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: I used it so of all top ten?
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Jazz used that I sent it to black Day, Like
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: who is the white man? I'm Carl Weathers in the gym?
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Whoever sent it to Carl Weathers? Yeah, because he got
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: the smile. Also Thick stash Man, Oh yeah, Carl Wellers
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: came in with the eighties here.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Mind me and my dad man that like, yeah.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: That's your father's that mustache full of coffee and regret.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Yep. He was a man. He was a man.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: That was a man.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: He was a man. Action Jackson Man had vanity with him.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: She was fine as him. He's flipping over taxi cabs.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: It was just great.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, since we're here, let's just do
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: the creed villains separately, okay, just not Rockies box. So
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Creed we got what uh he had. Drago's son was
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: the second Creed, second Creed. Okay, so Drago number two,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: which basically he did the same thing his dad had
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: without the Russia thing. First one he lost Danny Wheeler
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: and he just got beat up in the Yeah, Victor
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: the son, who's the villain. So the third one is
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Major's character Dominic, I believe.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Is the first movie.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: He was a real box ar thing too, so we.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Put him last. He's out there already.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Drago his son had the same set up without the flare,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: the same setup as what like the Son of Draga
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: versus Son of Creed, but we didn't have the Russia.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Yes, they were underdogs for sure.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Now now you know when they would when they were
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: gearing up to fight Creed, you were sympathetic to them
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: because it was gritty where they were training, and you know,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: the family shunned them, and you know, out they failed
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: and it was just like, oh, y'all, turn y'all back
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: on him because he failed. So now all of a
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: sudden you're feeling sorry for Drago. You were like, wait
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: a minute, hold on, man, you killed Apollo Creed. But
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: now I'm over here, like man man, you know they
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: did it dirty man, just because you're lost. And then
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: and of course Jathan may just be first.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: He was.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's exciting because it's just easy.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: It's easy.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: This is super easy, all right.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Next up, we got the Mount Rushmore of comedians in
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: dramatic world. I don't even know if Mount restaurants enough,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: but we can we can try.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, So comedians and dramatical.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Meetians and dramatic roles. We need the best four, the
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: top four comedians in dramatic dramatic role. Robin Williams, good
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Will Hunting, good Will hunt That's what I was gonna say. First,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: let's just cut the ship that you can't get him off.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Let's cut the ship.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Not being funny Robin Williams because low key taking up
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: the whole Mount Rushmore by himself. But you can't because
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: it's Eddie Murphy. Robin Williams and Good Morning Vietnam.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: He was a little funnier than that. He was. He
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: was on the funny side. But Eddie Murphy, as Jimmy Early,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: you won't take it from me, okay, because Eddie Murphy
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: hit them like he had the he had to down
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: the dol drums. Yeah up, team years solid is it?
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: It's full just dramatic. He's dramatic the kind of silly. Yes, charisma,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: but but it gets to the like gets it gets
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: to the nitty gritty, but.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: He's silly in there. Jamie Fox and Ray is solidified.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, now that's yeah, Okay, I'll put Jamie there, no question. Literally,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I still can't believe Jamie Fox had Ray and Collateral
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: in the same.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Game, nominated for both.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: That was Collateral for me, don't get talked about enough.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: How good of a movie.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: That is a good time.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Him and Tom Cruise were equally matched acting wise there.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Tom Cruise is.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Good in that what as an assassin with.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: No I don't buy them forwarding him in the end
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: one thousand.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: That was like, Tom Cruise should have won. You should
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: have killed Ja and walked out the street for bloody
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Jamie Fox should have never gotten the way, Jamie gonna
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: be three burners to figure out what was happening. People
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: on people out the windows. I was like, he looked
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: like almost like an anime villain. Anime they be having
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: the blood on the face when he got shot and
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: he came out with the blood with the gray hair.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is a die. He was too
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: efficient and it took him a long time to die.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: On the train he got he was still riding.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: He was.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I know, I know they had to
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: do it, but we was like, nah.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: If that movie ended with Tom Cruise winning, I'd been like,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: this is probably would have realistic. They already told you
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: the story of the other time that happened in.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: His life, Like Jaden, you were a mark.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I love that. My favorite part of that movie is
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: when Tom Cruise told Jerry fox Man, you ain't never
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: gonna open that limbo be limbo business man ship. The
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: hell no, you ain't saving for no.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Perm Tom was right, we would be bullshit.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Jamie's like, he's got to get the permits. I got
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: the insurances, gotta get paid. Where he was like, man,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: you ain't doing nothing. You're gonna be driving this taxi
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: for ever. If you wanted to do it, you would
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: have did it. Jamie was like, he would did it already.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Man, you would have done it.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I'm finnah, start driving hard. People want to hear, they
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: don't want to hear. But Jamie took it to heart,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: and he hoped he better had opened it up. Now,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: come on, Tony, get it together. Boom, we're backing business,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: all right.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: So we got Jamie and Ray, we got Robin Williams
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: and Goodwill Hunting. YEP, I like Adam Sandling uncut gems
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: a lot. I feel like he got snubbed by the Oscars.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I okay, I wasn't thinking that, but that movie was
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: a good time.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: That's not his first Foray and Nomic Woods, but he
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: was that movie right there that he was booty cheeks clinched,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: O stress that movie.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I watched it by myself in Sacramento, me into here
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: how to show that day and I had my booty
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: cheeks clinched because it's high octane till the very end.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Your nerves are on.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Frazzle dog, I was liking with some cold peas. Man, Oh,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: this is it. You're right Aaron, Monique and precious.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: There we go, Eddie Murphy not making the cut.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: This is hold on. Let me just write, Addie Murphy
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: can't push Robin off of will Hunting. It's not your fault.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: No man, get away from you, John, Robin Williams, your father.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: He man don't do this to Ben. It's not your fault.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Matt Damn broke man. I just watched that. Sometimes when
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I want to be sad, I'll be like, it's not
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: your father, don't do this to me. It just kept
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: getting close. Not your fault.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Robin Williams is the blueprint for me for a comedic
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: comedian doing dramatic roles.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: He's He's the He's the blueprint.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: What about Kevin harton UH True Story? In True Story
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: or in UH the One We're the other Side, The
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Upside the Upside.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Kevin was great in both of those.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I feel like we got to throw the honorable mentions
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: for them.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: I don't think, but.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: True Story is technically a it's not a movie, but
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: it's a dramatic role. But Kevin Hart and True Story was.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: One best movies to me. Our True Story in the
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Upside me too.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: As an actor. I was like, and I don't like
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I think to me other than those I like him
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: in Think like a Man? He was, he was great
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: and he was perfectly slotted. Didn't think like a man.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I feel like some movies sway too much of his
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: comedic personality and they go into like Zany and stuff unbelievable,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: and others like the Lift had like none of his
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: comedic personality, but not dramatic enough to be like, oh,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: he's not playing that. He's just kind of this weird
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: in between space. But he was a scene stealing think
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: like a like a man who's perfect. Same thing for
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: the old version. He's in one scene and it's just
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: up there right under Kelly Clarkson. First of all, I
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: don't understand what you're saying, so I'm gonna take it.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: This disrespect watch the mouth and helped me with the.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Sin you want a nigga, nigga here now go.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: He thought he was running a smart tick. That hole
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: exchange is just brilliant.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I love it this you may right, I'll come both
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: y'all niggas getting.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Clapped up like I could see. I was like, he
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: gonna be Yeah, he gonna be a star. So Kevin Hart,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: we're gonna give him an honorable mention. And who's the
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: other one? Said Eddie Murphy.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Eddie Murphy, I don't think I feel like Jim Carrey.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Okaye on The Spotless Mind. Oh, Eternal Sunshine.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: I don't like that movie as much as everybody else,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: but I respect it dramatic.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Oh snap, whoop woopy Goldberg wasn't.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Was Goldberg and the color purple? Ah, man, let's look
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: back at this.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Right, Let's put the list up. Man, Let's look back
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: all right. Adam Sanders out, I'll play, We'll take Adam
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: mount and whoopies gotta go in. She deserved an Oscar
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: for that she did. She you wouldn't even know she
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: was a comedian ever, She's not one hundred percent. I'm sorry,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Adam honorable mention.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Whoopy gotta be over there, because that colored purple
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: performance was just perfect.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: She was killing. Okay, so we got right now. We
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: got Robin Williams and Goodwill Hunting, we got Jamie Fox
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: and Ray, we got Whoopy in color purple. We got
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Monique and Precious honorable mentioned a second Mountain, Kevin Hart
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: doing Second Story, were doing Second mount Addie Murphy and
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: dream Girls and Adam Sander and uncutching.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Now whooping goes.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: No, didn't she win oscar?
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: She wont toskar for.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: But it was a gimme back.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: That was a givea when she was good and goes.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, but I.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Come on.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: And Jim Carrey he low key. This is not a
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: dramatic role. But Jim Carrey and Truman Show is a
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: masterclass in his ability of acting. It's not as like
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: when he was in the Mask. I was like, all right,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: and I love Jim Carrey, but that Zany was like
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: it was eyes eyes, I was it was too much.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Dumb and Dumber is like my favorite Jim Carrey movie,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Cable Guys.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Is also you like Cable Guys more than most people. No,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I love it like dumb number Yeah what dumb dumb
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: for me? Like silly man for me?
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: You don't like you need to get a give up
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: and you always you like serious cam, you need silly.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: I'll say this.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: I'll say this I am guilty of, Like all right,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: if I feel like you trying to make me laugh,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be like, you're trying too hard. And for
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: me it felt like Jim Carrey was always trying too hard.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: So initially as Ventur, I was like, man, you're doing
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: too much. But then when I went back to a
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Ventur later, I was like, yo, this is funny.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: But the Mask. I was still to this day with
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: the Mask, but.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I recently watched Dumb and Dumber like.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: A month ago.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Holds up and I was just like, all right, this
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: is this is cool.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: But because I did a poll, what y'all like better
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: dumb and dumber or there's something about Mary, and surprisingly
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: dumb and dumber won.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Be a surprise.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: I was like, man, there's something about Mary is way
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: funnier to me.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: No, I love there's something about Mary. Man, you're forgetting
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: how many funny things happen in Dumb and Dumber? Tome
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I just I just watched it. Then you forgot since
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: then that just watched our pets has the fighting out,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: they take the birds head back. You can't trip, but
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: doumbles down. You get he Jim Carrie had who gloves are?
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: He said? Man has her call? Take this extra pair? He'said,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: you have two percent? It's a winter tar like.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Come on, man, those is minimal last big gumps hung
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Come on man beans. He was masturbating Frank There's something
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: there's something about Mary.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Waste no time with the jokes. This is in the beginning.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: I did you give it means mother, frankment, what's going on?
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Man? Everybody just coming the fireman in the window.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Take a look at what this numbnuts did holy ship.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: It was just like he was masterbating. He in the
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: community yelling. Was he yelling this?
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: He? David was so funny with the nut in her hand.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, and then the plot twists at the end. That's
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: a comedy. That's a comedy with a great ending.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: It is. I love that movie, don't get me wrong.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: But Dumb and Dumber is funny.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Man, it's funny.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: But it was all right, No, man, I won't do
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: this podcast. Take it back.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't laughing that hard man. But there's something about
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Mary is one of the best comedies.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Fits perfect and that is his thing. Loki. Have you
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: watch you ain't watched uh alp a plus TV show
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: that he's directing, executive producing where they have their they
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: got one personality on the outside and another personality at work. Patreon,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: please help me. Ben Steeler Ben Stiller directed at Execut Producers.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: But he's not in it, Adam, something's in.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: It, Adam Driver.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: No severance, Oh severance, that's Ben Stiller. Ben Stiller produced
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: and direct. You need to watch it. Ton, Okay, for
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: a minute, you ain't been listening. It's been still, it's been.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Stiller is just behind, just behind the scenes. But it's even.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: A behind the scenes type of guy for long. Yeah.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, alright, so we feel strongly about that. I don't
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: I can't see Kevin Hart, Eddie Murphy or Jim replacing Monique.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: That that performance precious Oscar.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, y'all keep saying Mike Ibsen sparkle. No, I
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: see y'all, no, young keep saying it. But no, nah man,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: you're good.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Uh. I did like Jim Carrey Swole's mind, but it's
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: not it's not the top four. Shoot. Three of the
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: four of these people won Oscars.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and and uh, I don't care what anybody says.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: That ghost Oscar was for the color purple.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that ghost Oscar was for the color purple. Nothing
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: about that role in Ghosts Screams Oscar.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I get you.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: I'm with you. She was, she was a good time.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: She stole scenes. But it wasn't like.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Is that that you're in danger girl? Yeah? Yeah, she
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: was good.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: She was really good.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, color purple was a snub, which is
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: my I told you, that's my issue with the Oscar.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: They was like, we fumbled with the color purple. Here's
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: your Yeah.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: All right, y'all, that's enough. For today. We'll see you
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: next week. This is a podcast disguise for me and
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Tony to talk about movies. We'll fit other stuff in,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: but we always gonna figure out a way to talk
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: about some movies. All right, We'll see you next time.