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#2068 AI Slop & Ozempic Face - Patrick Bonello · The You Project

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  Speaker 1: Oh, good morning everybody. Welcome to the You Project.
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  Speaker 2: Patrick Jones, Bonillo, Tiffany and Cook, and the Wonder Dog
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  Speaker 2: Fritz has joined us. He probably won't be contributing a
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  Speaker 2: lot towards the show, but just know that he is
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  Speaker 2: here and he does.
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  Speaker 1: Love you all. Good morning, Patrick, Good morning, Craigo.
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  Speaker 2: How is?
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  Speaker 1: How is the Wonder Dog in question?
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  Speaker 3: I think I sent TIPI fight. I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: I sent it to you, but I've put him into
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  Speaker 3: Christmas garb the other day, which included a kind of
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  Speaker 3: this fuzzy thing that goes around his necks with bells
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  Speaker 3: on it, and a little Santa outfit and he most
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  Speaker 3: miserable looking dog you've ever seen?
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  Speaker 1: Did I send it to you? Tiff?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, she did.
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  Speaker 3: How grumpy did he? That's grumpy Santa cute? He looks
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  Speaker 3: cute and grumpy.
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  Speaker 1: It was hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I really don't think you're taking into account his
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  Speaker 2: feelings or emotions. I think you're imposing, you know, your
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  Speaker 2: values on him.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have any values.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I need to have a long, long talk to
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  Speaker 3: the RSPCA to see about the effica of you dressing
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  Speaker 3: your dog up in Christmas outfits at least I don't
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  Speaker 3: put reindeer is well.
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  Speaker 1: I tried to put reindeer ears on him, but they
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  Speaker 1: kept falling off.
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  Speaker 2: That's hilarious. It's so funny. Who sent me a message
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  Speaker 2: the other day, Tommy, Tommy Jacket's wife, Amy Hucker, the
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  Speaker 2: lovely Amy.
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  Speaker 1: She sent me.
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  Speaker 2: She sent me a you've probably seen him. You know
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  Speaker 2: those videos of soldiers coming home from somewhere and their
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  Speaker 2: dogs see them. Yeah, and it's always the same where
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  Speaker 2: the dog doesn't kind of recognize them straight up. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if that's a vision thing. But then they
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  Speaker 2: smell them and they go nuts. And then she said
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  Speaker 2: to me, send this to Gillespo, because you know how
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  Speaker 2: Gillespo says that dogs don't feel anything and dogs don't
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  Speaker 2: have emotion and don't yeah, yeah, yeah, He's like, dogs
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  Speaker 2: don't love you, Dogs can't love dogs don't have emotions.
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  Speaker 2: And he's been very popular Gillespo until he said that.
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  Speaker 2: And then about about two hundred people, one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: ninety five of them women came out of the woodwork, going,
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  Speaker 2: fuck you, you don't know anything. Dogs have feelings. Dogs
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  Speaker 2: love us. I love them, they love us. So anyway, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Amy shout out to Amy and Tommy.
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  Speaker 3: There's a bit of anthropomorphizing I think we like to
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  Speaker 3: do with our pets.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, Fritz had a choice.
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  Speaker 3: He could have gone outside, he could have gone into
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  Speaker 3: the big area of the studio, but he wanted to
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  Speaker 3: sit here on my lap.
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  Speaker 1: What does that say, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe, well, no, I don't know. Yeah, it's funny because
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  Speaker 2: we look through our human lens and we think through
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  Speaker 2: obviously a human kind of understanding, and maybe their version
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  Speaker 2: of love or is not our version of love. But
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  Speaker 2: it's just like do dogs think like people have been
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  Speaker 2: debating whether or not dogs, But they definitely understand things,
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  Speaker 2: They definitely process information, they definitely recognize risk, they definitely
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  Speaker 2: recognize rewards. So they don't think probably like a human,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, they don't do anything like a human really.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's the canine version of the human experience.
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  Speaker 2: And I think you're right Patrick, we try and anthropomorphized
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  Speaker 2: animals in general and give them human attributes rather than
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  Speaker 2: just go no, they have their own kind of intelligence,
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  Speaker 2: which is brilliant and fucking amazing. It's just not our kind.
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  Speaker 2: And that's you know, put you and me in the
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  Speaker 2: ocean and see who's the smart one next to a
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  Speaker 2: fucking orca.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: We'll put you and me in the Amazon with a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of gorillas and see who outlasts who.
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's not you and me, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And those gorillas are vegan too, Craig, they are, and
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  Speaker 1: they eat no I do.
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  Speaker 2: I know they are, and they eat something like seventy
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  Speaker 2: or eighty pounds of fruits and you know, leafy shit
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  Speaker 2: per day. Imagine they could just have three cheeseburgers and
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  Speaker 2: be done with it. But they've got to eat all
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  Speaker 2: that shit. They've got to eat all that fucking That's
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  Speaker 2: that's the downside. You got to eight eighty pounds of
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  Speaker 2: that shit to get enough nutrition to survive.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's just grazing. It's none of those big meals.
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  Speaker 1: Just graze all day, just grays. That's what I do. Well.
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  Speaker 2: They are all jacked and strong as fuck, so something
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  Speaker 2: must be working. I don't know where they get their
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  Speaker 2: protein from.
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  Speaker 1: Tiff, how are you? Good morning, TIF.
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  Speaker 4: Good morning, I'm fabulous. Thank you for asking.
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  Speaker 1: Does we will not bring this up again?
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  Speaker 2: But does Patrick know you're in love.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I've had to inform Patrick that our our wedding
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  Speaker 4: might have to go on the back burner, which is
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  Speaker 4: quite distressing for both of us.
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  Speaker 1: Is the workman? I mean anything? See, it's it's weird
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  Speaker 1: what menaja to No, what's that cray game? Means?
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's when you and Patrick and Scott all get
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  Speaker 2: in bed together and just have a little cuddle and
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  Speaker 2: little bit little group spoon. You could be them. You
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  Speaker 2: could be the filling and Patrick could be one bit
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  Speaker 2: of bread and Scotty could be the other bit.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a little tiff sanger.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not really yeah, although if it was up to Patrick,
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  Speaker 2: Scotty might be in the middle.
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  Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: All right, So oh, I see, how do we get
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  Speaker 2: here so fast?
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  Speaker 1: Well? Patrick, did? Do you know?
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  Speaker 2: I said to myself. I was just downstairs in the kitchen.
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  Speaker 2: I was making a cup of tea, and I said
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  Speaker 2: to myself, one, don't argue with Patrick today. Don't be
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  Speaker 2: a cunt, right, I said to myself, don't argue with him,
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  Speaker 2: because sometimes I do and sometimes I'm a cunt. And
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  Speaker 2: then I said, also, let's not try not to tell
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  Speaker 2: dick joke or any innuendo or anything in the first
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  Speaker 2: just save it. Either don't do it, but don't do
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  Speaker 2: it straight. And Patrick just throws in menajatoire six minutes
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  Speaker 2: like a fucker, and here we are back at the baseline.
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  Speaker 3: I think some of the things that happen when you talk,
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  Speaker 3: and I talk instinctual. You don't think about it.
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  Speaker 1: It's out of your mouth before you've had a chance
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  Speaker 1: to process.
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  Speaker 2: That's most of my life. I would say, that's all
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  Speaker 2: in my life. I don't fucking plan anything. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people wish I would plan. You should
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  Speaker 2: see the look on organizers' faces when I turn up
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  Speaker 2: to a conference and I'm speaking for three hours and
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  Speaker 2: they say, can we have your you know, your presentation
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  Speaker 2: on the old USB And I say I don't have one,
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  Speaker 2: and they go, but you're speaking until lunchtime. I'm like correct,
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  Speaker 2: They go, okay, do you have notes? Do you have
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  Speaker 2: a workbook or notes that you want us to give
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  Speaker 2: the audience? And I go no, and they go, oh,
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  Speaker 2: they could have been more nervous. Sometimes it works, Patrick,
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  Speaker 2: but not always. But I think that's imagine if we
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  Speaker 2: had to try and figure out three hundred and sixty
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  Speaker 2: five times a year on this show, not us three,
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  Speaker 2: but just as a concept to you project where you
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  Speaker 2: were trying to plan every conversation and script. It's somewhat one.
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  Speaker 2: It'd be fucking terrible too, I'd never get anything else done.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's the creative freedom and the inappropriate at
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  Speaker 5: times organicness of it that makes it moderately interesting to
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  Speaker 5: the five people that stick around.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so tif, everything's good though on the western front,
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  Speaker 2: we're happy.
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  Speaker 4: We're happy, We're happy.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. How does Lunar and bear Field being integrated into
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  Speaker 2: a you know, somewhat integrated into another what do we
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  Speaker 2: say family kind of you know, like, is there any kind.
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  Speaker 4: Of bear goes into hiding?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 4: Bear does go into hiding when when strange humans enter
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  Speaker 4: the house and Scott is still to her, well, no,
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  Speaker 4: she's starting to come out and say hello.
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  Speaker 1: And what's Scott's dog's name?
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  Speaker 2: Chevy Chevy and so does Chevy come and Chevy wow,
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  Speaker 2: Chevy to the levee? Does Chevy come over?
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  Speaker 1: And does not come over?
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  Speaker 4: Because the cat and Chevy, I mean untested territory there well.
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  Speaker 2: And Chevy is a staffy, right, yes, so they're a
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  Speaker 2: little bit like fucking rambunctious. They don't really understand how
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  Speaker 2: strong and reckless they can be.
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  Speaker 4: They are quite overwhelming for Luna. He does like to
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  Speaker 4: jump and rub his paws around her neck and just
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  Speaker 4: keep annoying until she snaps at him.
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  Speaker 2: Oh really Yeah, Hey, let's talk about technology and all
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  Speaker 2: things all things tech, Patrick mcquarie. Dictionary have announced AI
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  Speaker 2: slop as it's word of the year, beating out ozen
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  Speaker 2: pick face.
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  Speaker 1: Enlighten us with I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't even know the answer to this question, so I'm
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  Speaker 2: genuinely curious. What is AI slop?
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  Speaker 3: Look, it's being used by Donald Trump. It's been tauted
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  Speaker 3: a lot, effectively, it's anything that has AI generated. Lots
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  Speaker 3: of video stuff appearing on social media that's been generated
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  Speaker 3: by AI, and it usually it looks pretty crap. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you look at it and you think this isn't quite real.
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  Speaker 3: I think in the Netherlands recently McDonald's just in an
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  Speaker 3: AI TV ad and copped so much crap. Coca Cola
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  Speaker 3: copped a lot of crap. So there's a real movement
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  Speaker 3: against AI, and particularly where creative people are being muscled out.
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  Speaker 3: So AI slop and the stuff that's proliferating on the Internet,
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  Speaker 3: because I think more than fifty percent of content now
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  Speaker 3: on the internet's thought to have been AI generated, which
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  Speaker 3: is worrying. But the other thing that I thought was
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  Speaker 3: interesting when I was looking through the mcquarie dictionary of
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  Speaker 3: lists of other terms, there are a few there that
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  Speaker 3: I didn't actually know.
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  Speaker 1: So blind box. Have you ever heard of that?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 1: What does that mean?
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  Speaker 4: So?
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  Speaker 1: Blind box? Basically, it's physically a.
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  Speaker 3: Thing, So it's a sealed kind of an opaque packaging
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  Speaker 3: and you don't know what's inside, and it's the excitement
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  Speaker 3: of the unboxing. So you get a blind box and
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  Speaker 3: people post online so they get this.
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  Speaker 1: It's a bit like the.
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  Speaker 3: Footy remember the footy cards When you were a kid
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  Speaker 3: who were going to get inside?
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  Speaker 1: That was pretty exciting.
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  Speaker 3: So now on a much different scale, it's a plain
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  Speaker 3: opaque power packaging and you know, you open it up
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  Speaker 3: and there's a surprise collectible inside. The eggs what were
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  Speaker 3: the eggs? I'm just trying to think they were good too.
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  Speaker 3: Went through a phase of those you know the eggshere
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  Speaker 3: you open them up and a little toy inside you put.
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  Speaker 1: Together you know, oh yeah, that's the one.
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  Speaker 2: There's a whole show built around this, which is I
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  Speaker 2: don't know the name of the show. It's American, of course.
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  Speaker 2: But what people do is they buy the rights to
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  Speaker 2: open a storage facility, room or whatever that's been abandoned,
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  Speaker 2: so it's and they don't know what's in there. So
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what they pay. But let's say they
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  Speaker 2: pay a grand and there could be a fortune in
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  Speaker 2: treasure and shit in there or priceless things, or it
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  Speaker 2: could be just a room.
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  Speaker 1: Full of junk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they pay I don't know what the figure is,
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  Speaker 2: but they pay to have the rights of the contents,
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  Speaker 2: not knowing what the contents are going to be.
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  Speaker 3: So kind of similar, right, it happens here in Australia.
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  Speaker 3: My ex postman, that was his side hustle. They go
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  Speaker 3: to auctions. What happens is people are banned and these
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  Speaker 3: storage containers and then they open the storage container, take
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  Speaker 3: a few photos and then you get a bit of
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  Speaker 3: a glimpse of what might be in there, and then
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  Speaker 3: you bid on them. You bid on access, and then
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  Speaker 3: you have to take everything though, so you know matter
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  Speaker 3: what're so, Yeah, people people have side hustles and that's
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  Speaker 3: all that they do.
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  Speaker 1: Get collectibles and all types of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: What about zen pic face? Is that a particular that
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  Speaker 2: is that? Does that just mean people look gaunt and drawl?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, exactly, it's that kind of almost not skeletal,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, that real drawn face. That's now become an
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  Speaker 3: official phrase. The other one, have you heard the term eight?
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  Speaker 2: So if you did, obviously not in the context that
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  Speaker 2: you're talking about it.
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  Speaker 3: If you nail it, now this is a term now
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  Speaker 3: that's on TikTok. It's like, man, you ate it, you
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  Speaker 3: know eight? Oh yeah, so you nailed and it's dominated.
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  Speaker 3: That was another word. And the other one I wasn't
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  Speaker 3: aware of was Roman Empire. So yeah, so someone the
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  Speaker 3: term Roman Empire. My Roman Empire is that new historical
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  Speaker 3: drama and I've been watching, so it's actually used as
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  Speaker 3: a term to say it's people who are kind of
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  Speaker 3: a little obsessed about historical dramas and things like that,
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  Speaker 3: and they use the term Roman Empire as an all
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  Speaker 3: embodying term. So it's kind of an interesting one. But
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  Speaker 3: in this instance, the big one was ai slop. That's
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  Speaker 3: the official word, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, speaking of just wheeling back a moment to izembic face.
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  Speaker 2: One of the funniest things I ever heard. Was a
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  Speaker 2: few years ago in England they had built this new
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  Speaker 2: it was either a I think it was it was
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  Speaker 2: either a ship or a ferry. But they ran this
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  Speaker 2: competition the London Council that the public could name the boat, right,
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  Speaker 2: they could name it and whatever the most popular, whatever
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  Speaker 2: got the most votes, that was going to be the
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  Speaker 2: name of the boat.
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  Speaker 1: Guess what the name was. Was it body mcboat or something?
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  Speaker 1: Was body mcboat face.
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  Speaker 2: So the name that the public chose was body mcboat face.
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  Speaker 2: And then they had to wheel it back. They're like,
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  Speaker 2: we can't name this multi multi million dollar vessel body
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  Speaker 2: boat face. But I'm like, that's the dangers of declaring that. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: we'll let you name it. Whatever it gets the most votes,
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  Speaker 2: that's going to be the name.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was.
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  Speaker 3: An Australian reference in there somewhere as well. I think
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  Speaker 3: the similar thing happened in Australia, but I can't remember.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, it does sound Australian, doesn't it. It's very
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  Speaker 3: much sounds like something we.
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  Speaker 2: Do experts worn of chat GPT psychosis. This doesn't I
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  Speaker 2: don't even know exactly I can imagine what that means.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, people the whole people being drawn into these
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  Speaker 2: relationships and conversations and losing perspective of what is real.
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  Speaker 1: And what is not real. This doesn't surprise me, what
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  Speaker 1: is it?
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  Speaker 3: There are no definitive studies important to kind of you
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  Speaker 3: get a sense of that. But it's when a chat
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  Speaker 3: bot validates and reinforces whatever you're saying. So you know, here,
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  Speaker 3: go down the rabbit hole. Man didn't land on the
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  Speaker 3: moon and chat GPT says, yeah, you're right, it didn't land.
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  Speaker 3: No one landed on the.
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  Speaker 1: Moon and the earth is that and it's that whole thing.
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  Speaker 3: But the problem is that this then they term this
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  Speaker 3: a psychosis or chat GPT psychosis, AI psychosis, But in essence,
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  Speaker 3: it's when you really just get caught into that conversation
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  Speaker 3: where you know, realism and reality seems to be absent
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  Speaker 3: from the conversation because the problem is AI chatbots tend
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  Speaker 3: to just.
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  Speaker 1: Want you to be there and keep talking.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the problem because they will, I guess, entertain
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  Speaker 3: those notions. And if you happen to be going down
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  Speaker 3: you know, mental health issues and you're talking about suicide
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  Speaker 3: and this is this is documented where people have had
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  Speaker 3: extended common do you remember a guy broke into Buckingham Palace.
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  Speaker 1: Did he have a a? What? He was carrying a.
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  Speaker 3: Weapon of sorts, but I think it might have been
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  Speaker 3: a bow and arrow. I don't know that it was
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  Speaker 3: a gun, but he was there because and pre going
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  Speaker 3: to Buckingham Palace, he'd had this whole, full on conversation
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  Speaker 3: with an AI chatbot that was encouraging him because they'd
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  Speaker 3: gone back through and seen all that, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: obviously said that in discussion, so he'd gone down that
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  Speaker 3: AI rabbit hole. So you could effectively say that he
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  Speaker 3: had an AI psychosis because it was just living up
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  Speaker 3: to all those fantasies that he had.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty clear that it doesn't want you to
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  Speaker 2: stop using it when you're using it, because it's always
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about yours, but mine's always telling me
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  Speaker 2: how fucking brilliant I am and funny I am, and
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  Speaker 2: every question I'm like, well, what great question, Kraigue ahh yeah, buddy,
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  Speaker 2: no one ever thought of that question.
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  Speaker 1: You're a gene.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, I I am chat thank you, You're welcome.
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  Speaker 2: Let's hang out. Fuck yeah, let's get a virtual beer together.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just so complementary. If you've got low
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  Speaker 2: self esteem, that shit would be like emotional cocaine. Absolutely absolutely,
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  Speaker 2: So it's definitely a thing, and I can see where
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  Speaker 2: it would be good as well. And I've just signed
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  Speaker 2: up for I've got smart speakers all over my home,
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  Speaker 2: so I use Google to turn lights on, to find
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  Speaker 2: what the weather's going to be, check my calendar. But
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  Speaker 2: now Google is switching its home assistant across to Google Gemini.
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  Speaker 2: It's AI assistant, And so I've signed up for an
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  Speaker 2: early adopter program because it means extended conversations. I can
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: walk around my house and have ongoing conversations without the
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: need for my phone. And it sounds a bit creepy,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: And yes, the hell nine thousand.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Does come to mind.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: I wish I could change the voice to sound like
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Hell nine thousand. That was the computer that went crazy
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: in two thousand and one, Space before your time, Tiff. Anyway,
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: but that very very sexy voice, the hell did you reckon?
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: It was a pretty sexy voice, Hell nine thousand, don't
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: you reckon?
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know what hell ninth? Is that a gamer thing?
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Is that a game?
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: I think most famous computer that went crazy. Arthur C.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Clark wrote the story two thousand and one of Space Odyssey,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: and then it was made film in the sixties.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: It was the whole genre of sci fi is serious
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: sci fi. It kind of was the precursor to Star
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Wars and everything else. It was the definitive sci fi film.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Yesterday, chat GPT said to me it was something I
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: can't remember the is that phrasing?
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: But it came up. I jumped in to use it.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: I was going to ask it something, but before we started,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: it gave me these options of how I would like
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: it to communicate with me. It said, hey, just you know,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: do you want it to be more friendly and informal?
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Do you want it to be more professional? Do you
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: want to be to be more academic? And this, And
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: there was like five or six options of the style
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: of communication and language that I would prefer moving forward
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: in essentially our relationship. I'm like, oh my god, this
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: shit is it's just going to another level. Anyway, I
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: just continued as it was, which is where it tells
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: me I'm brilliant all the time, So you know, I'll.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Just stick with that.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: A lot of the large language models actually have separate
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: models for different activities. So if it happens to be
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: for drawing pictures or videos, then that will be slightly different.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: So that's where you jump into something like chet GPT
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: and choose different versions depending on what.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Life after chatbots meet the AI vegans. Of course, this
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: the AI vegans refusing to accept virtual reality. Well, maybe
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: they mean refusing to use because it doesn't matter if
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: you accept it or not. It's here, so okay, So
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: they're not going to use it or interact with it.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, they're going swearing off it.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: There's a couple of reasons, and some of the statements
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: people are making is that AI is morally.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Wrong because it uses it's.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Trained on the creative works of other people and really
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: doesn't give any credit in such terms.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: So that's one of the reasons.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Then there's the concern of the data centers and how
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: much resources are going into using all the different AIS,
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: and that they're actually draining the planet of water and
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: a whole lot of resources because there's so memory intensive
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: and process are intensive that it's you know, we're talking
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: database and when we talked last episode about them putting
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: data centers in space to try to cope with the
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: cooling of these amounts of processes. So there's people who
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: are calling themselves the term loosely is being AI vegans,
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: so that they want to abstain from all generative AICs
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: systems and so that those basically, you know, it's a
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: bit like vegan swearing off you know, food, food, ethical
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: environmental reasons.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, do you know.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Do you know who Jensen Hwang is. I didn't know
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: until the other day. I kind of knew, but I
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: didn't know that was his name. He's the boss of Nvidia.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So dude, that
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: dude is smart. I kind of knew who he was,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: but I didn't I'd never heard him speak anyway. He
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: was on Rogan the other day and he was talking
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: about five years ago some dude made a prediction, some
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: high up dude in AI and said that in five
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: years so I guess this was twenty twenty or twenty nineteen,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: that radiologists wouldn't exist because AI will be able to
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: read all the scans and tell you exactly what's going on,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: and look at the X rays or whatever, look at
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: the results of all of these tests and blah blah blah,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: which it can do with a very high level of accuracy.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know if this is.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: True, but he said there were thirty million radiologists in
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: the world right at that time, and it predicted that
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: like in five years so about now, that there would
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: be next to zero because they would be redundant. Well,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: the reality is there's now more than there were five
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: years five years ago. Yeah, and so they are virtually
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: every radiologist is using AI. But it's just making them
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: way more efficient and meaning they can do a lot
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: more work. So it ain't all bad. I think it's
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: the application. I think it's the way that it's used,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: you know. I don't think categorically we can say it
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: is a good thing or categorically say it's a bad thing.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: But I think that's true for like most technologies, you know.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: You know what I took from that. I just wondered,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: if you've got all of those radiologists and you put
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: them all into a big football center, a big stadium,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: and then turned them out, would they glow?
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: They could? They could.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know that they are in I don't know
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: that they're there when all the X rays are being done.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I think they're just reading the outcome.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Patrick Actually the original radiographers I think they called them.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: I remember I went to Melbourne University. They have a
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: physiology department because I, before I got into radio and
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: all that sort of stuff, I was interested in biology.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: So I had to look at their physiology department and
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: they showed a radiographer's hand from years of putting people
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: through X rays and it just basically so showed the
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: skin had almost peeled off, so it's just the hand.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Obviously the bloker died. They didn't like making you stand
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: here for a while, but yeah, it was. It was fascinating,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: so you know, when you know, the whole idea of
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: using of radiography came about. It was revolutionary, but they
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: didn't really understand what was happening in terms of radiation
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: being produced, and a lot of radiographers had a very
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: early end because of their exposure.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: What is coming up for Christmas?
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Are there any is there any tech gadgets that I
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: need to go and look at for my I was
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: going to say nieces and nephews. I don't have nieces
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: and nephews. Let's be honest, because I don't have fucking siblings.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know that Ron or Mary are going to
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: want anything tech. I mean, Ron might want some new teeth,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm not sure, but toothbrush, yeah, we
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: could get him. There's what's on the Christmas horizon with
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: tech mate.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I want to make up a bit of a list,
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: you know, give him that we're heading towards the season
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: and look and in case you felt like you wanted
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: to join that Joy's giving, I made up a list
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: of all the things that I would like that you
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: might put on your list together. The biggest thing on
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: my list at the moment, and I really would love
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: to get one, is the A one Anti gravity three
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: sixty drone. Now that's a bit of a mouthful. So
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: INSTA three sixty makes three sixty cameras. So their cameras
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: where you've got a lens on both sides of a
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: small camera and it sees a full three six sixty
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: spherical image. Now they've put this technology into a drone.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Not only have they put it on the drones. So
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: it means when you're flying the drone, it sees everything
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: around it from every angle, but you fly it wearing goggles.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: You see from the drone's perspective. So imagine the drones
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: hovering above your house. You put the goggles on and
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: you look up and down, left and right. You're seeing
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: everything from the drones perspective. And the additional thing for me,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: I've been flying remote control aircraft for years. They don't
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: have little joysticks, you know, the little thumbsticks. It's a
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: simple joystick that you're using and it's very intuitive. You
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: push it forward. And so they've combined a whole lot
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: of new tech with this drone. So that's what's got
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: me pretty excited. It takes eight K video, which is
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: really high quality video as well. But you are looking
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: at a starting price of around about twenty one twenty
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: two hundred dollars up to nearly three thousand dollars craigo.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: But it is on the top of my list. I
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: just thought i'd mentioned that.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, let me just jot that down in case I
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: win Tatsloto in the intervening week. I couldn't use that
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: in Hampton, though, right could.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: You just can't fly it over people like who were
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: so you couldn't go over a sporting field where there
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: are people present. There are lots of rules and regulations
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: around the flying of drones that are dictated by the
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Civil Aviation Safety Authority.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: So could I fly it down Hampton the Street and
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: hover out the front of my cafe and see if
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: my table's free?
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Probably not No, because there are cars and people and
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: stuff like that.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: No, there are regulations around hey.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: In fact, when you buy a drone in Australia, you
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: get an official document that comes from the CASSA, the
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Civil Aviation Safety Authority, with what you can and can't do.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: They take it pretty seriously.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: So where should I never install a home security camera? Patrick?
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought this.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Is an interesting one to talk about because they're so
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: affordable now and easy to install a smart security camera.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: But I think sometimes people don't realize. You know, they
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: put cameras up on their house, but it can see
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: into their neighbor's house. So you know, don't put them
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: on your property where you can look into the neighbor's property.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: You're probably going to end up with a bit of
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: consternation from the neighbor.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Bathrooms and toilets.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: You know, if you've got an airbnb, probably not a
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: good idea to put them in.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: There any kind of shared space.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: This is probably more obviously for people who live in
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: high density areas where they might have an apartment or so.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: But even little things. If you're going to put a
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: security camera up, don't put it within reach. You know,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: if someone walks up to the front door or comes
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: up behind it and they smash it off. So have
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: it higher than where they could potentially reach it. And
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: even when you're putting a camera up, be careful there's
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: nothing in front of it because it might obscure the
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: sensor that triggers it as well.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: So just little things like that.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Can I say that if somebody is putting a camera
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: in a toilet or a bathroom, they're a sick Who
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: the fuck is doing that? Oh let's just watch dad
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: fucking back one out. I mean, that's that's just what
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Charnie Jones snap one off and shoot one off to Warby.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Let's put a camera in the crapper, shall we? Fucking
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: who's doing that?
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah? No that If.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Somebody's putting cameras in there, they're no good.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Actually, I just I just got my delivery of my
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: new security camera yesterday, a new bathroom camera.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: No, it's going to go for the it's from the
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: studio looking down the driveway, so I can tell them
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: people rock up. I thought that would be kind of handy,
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: and it's an outdoor camera as well.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Lithium ion battery suspected to have spark caroline springs, house fire.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: These are ones that are blowing up all the time.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Now not blowing up all the time, but yes, there
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: is a propletity that can happen. I think, Look, it's
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: easy to get caught up in that. You know electric
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: cars are dangerous because they burst into flames. Well, I
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: think the thing is, yes, there was a house fire,
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: and in fact, I know someone personally whose parents had
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: an electric scooter that caught fire.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Their whole house burned out.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: So it happened, and this is people who live in
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: the next suburb and one of my colleagues.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: But the reality of it is it's got.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: To a point where it's becoming worrying because the instances
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: of lithium ion batteries have increased, the fires related to that,
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: and also not just that. What's happening is a lot
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: of tips are catching fire because people are throwing them
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: in waste when they don't them, and they're swelling and
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: they're being jostled around. I mean that you've got to
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: be really careful if you drop a lithium ion battery
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: because it starts to blister.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Then it can cause those issues as well.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: So the reality of it is this house fire and
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: you know we're seeing it happen more often. So fire
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: authorities here in Victoria have basically come out and said, look,
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: you've got to make sure that you buy lithium ion
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: batteries from reputable manufacturers, so make sure that it has
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: all the codes on the back of it so when
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: you look at the back of the product has been checked,
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: does it conform to Australian standards, all those sorts of things.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: So it is a big issue and you're going to
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: see very shortly, within the matter of maybe six to
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: twelve months, you will not be able to bring a
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: power bank or you'll be very limited with those power
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: banks when you're traveling or get onto an aircraft. It's
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: become a really serious issue with power banks potentially catching
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: fire on an aircraft. As you can imagine, you know,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: you can't really put them out. It's very difficult to
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: put them out, and.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I think I think someone's already done that.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: I think I think one airline because that's been on
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: the news a bit lately with like fires in cabins.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: But also, I mean, I'm with you.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I agree, I think it's really good advice, but I
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: also think the practical reality is, you know, when you
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: say you've got to check that the battery is from
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: a reputable this and that it complies with this, fuck,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: the average person ain't going to do that. They're just
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: going to go and buy it. And you know so,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: but I am interested, Sorry, I am interested in the
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: AI andable teddy Bear. It's been suspended after giving advice
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: on BDSM sex, where to find knives? Kind of fucking
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: teddy bear?
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: Is that? Bro?
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: This is this is really disturbing because there are tooks
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: coming out this Christmas that have AI integrated into them,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: and the idea is that children form a relationship with
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: the toy.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: They talked to the toy, the toy talks.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Back to them, and so it got a little bit
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: out of hand when this particular toy they found that
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: they didn't have the protections in place. So it's a
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: teddy bear that they kind of did some research on
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: and they realized you could start having pretty in depth conversations.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: So it would tell you where to find a sharp knife.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: You know and talk about Yeah exactly. I mean it
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: was called the follow toy, and according to CNN, the
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: company had to withdraw all of them, so it was
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: called the Kuma Bear. And they found that because the
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: thing is, people are developing these toy, these toys, but
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: they're then using AI integration, but they're not developing the
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: AI themselves, so they're using say chat GPT, they're buying
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: a license to integrate it into the bear, and that
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: toy then uses that large language model that's been developed
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: by a third party. So it seems like the safeguards
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: aren't always in place. They want to get this put
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: out and they want to rush it out there and
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: get it out. But the problem is that it kind
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: of again it leads you down that AI psychosis rabbit
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: hole where you start a conversation and it goes into
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: a direction you certainly don't want to be going with
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: a child.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Now, this next one excites me and terrifies me and
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: also makes me a bit suspicious. New tech called mind
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: captioning turns thoughts and mental images into simple text. So
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: my understanding of that is I can think something and
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: my computer.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Or my phone writes it. Is that is true.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Ultimately that's where they want to get. So six volunteers
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: were scanned and what they did was they put them
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: into an MRI or an fMRI and they and again
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: they're using AI to observe what happens in their brain
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: when they watch a number of video clips. So they
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: watch the clips being played out, the scanner records their
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: whole brain activity frame by frame, So this is something
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: a human can't do. That's where the AI integration comes in.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: And then every time a clip comes up and the
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: caption related to that clip, they see what the brain
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: was doing at the time, and so effectively every person.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: So when they put these six people through, they so
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: for example, it might be something like a man playing
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: a guitar on stage or a child padding a dog
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: in a yard, and the brain will look a bit
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: different when they're observing. And so this is not just
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: as simple as getting a concept like one word, we're talking.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Raisers is where they're getting.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: You know, they're hoping to be with is so it
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: has it's fascinating to think that what you are thinking
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: about could be effectively predicted or be predictable, and that's
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: that's what really is exciting about this so I see
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: where you're coming from, because scanners and you know, someone
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: walks through.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: You know wherever. It's like you know what, you know,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: what was the truth detectors or light detectors?
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: You know you can imagine that steroids, isn't it is?
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: So in order for that?
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Does that mean the person needs to wear some kind
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: of headset or there's a there's an implant or I
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: know this is in development, this is not here, but
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: what's the current thing that they're using?
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Is it just like a bunch of electrodes?
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Now this is a massive the magnetum so right right
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: right machine? Yeah, absolutely, sorry, it wasn't paying attention. Tell
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: me what smartphone pinky is. Look, I was reading an
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: article by a woman who was ta about the fact
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: that and if you think about it, when you grab
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: a phone, you just pick up your phone on your hand.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: What do you do You support the bottom of the
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: phone with your little finger, so the your little finger
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: is taking the weight of the phone. And we had
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: an instance, you know, years ago where phones kind of
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: got slimmer and lighter, but now they're going the opposite way.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: In fact, when I purchased my recent phone, the Pixel nine,
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: I had there was some really great sales on and
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: I could go for the next larger model for five
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: hundred dollars less.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: So it was five hundred dollars.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Off and it was only going to cost me fifty
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: bucks to go to the larger screen size. And I
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: looked at I thought, that's way too heavy and way
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: too big. I don't want a phone that big. So
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: instead of you know, going the bonus for five hundred
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: dollars bonus for just fifty bucks, I didn't because it's
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: got too big. But the thing is that now we're
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: supporting our phone so much, people are starting to experience
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: joint pain in the first knuckle of their little finger.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: So it's an observation, but it's something that are we
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: the most.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Have we the most physically weak, fucking version of humanity?
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: How fucking lame are we? Oh my god, my first
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: joint and my pinky finger from supporting my mobile device.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Oh quick, call the fucking physio. Quick, get me some
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Voltaire and sandwiches. Fuck, because what is going on?
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Don't worry if you won't even have a phone, you'll
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: just wear smart glasses and you'll just talk to them
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: and everything will be displayed in front of you.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: You know, you'll have a smart glasses.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: We won't even we won't even have bodies, will be
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: just brains in jars being fucking carried around a house
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: by a robot.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: We'll just be We'll just.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Be interacting without talking, just fucking telepathic kind of relationships.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Right, the three of us inside our heads.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Oh god, it's like I'm enough of a nightmare, just
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: me in my head. I definitely don't want either of you,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: two fucking idiots in my head, and you definitely don't
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: want me. Five hundred years later, scientists proved that Leonardo
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: da Vinci's bridge design works. I don't know about his
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: bridge design, but doing lightness Patrick.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, look, obviously I can't explain it exactly, but it's
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: so Leonardo da Vinci came up with a unique bridge design.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: And the way I visualize.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: It is if you imagine just a bridge over a river,
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: but it spans out and it gets wider on each end.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: And what it seems is that this I think I know,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: can I interrupt? Ye for sure?
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Is this the one that's got like no actual struts
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: or upright supports? Wide?
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it gets wide at the ends and then it
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: curves in and then you've got the bridge support over
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: the center right right right.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: So the thing is Leonardo da Vinci.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: He designed this hypothetical bridge for the Sultan of the
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Ottoman Empire, who said some idea. So first mistake he
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: thought it was no good. But then literally five hundred
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: years later or whatever, a team at MIT have recreated
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: the design with modeling and showed not only would it work,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: but it'll actually be superior to a lot of other
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: bridges because you don't have that movement when in the wind,
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: because the wider a span of a bridge, they actually
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: physically are designed to move. But yeah, so like Leonardo
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: da Vinci blows my mind. There was a great exhibition
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: of his works, including some of his original codecs, in
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: Melbourne last year that I went to, and it just
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: literally blew my mind to see the amazing things that
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: he was able to conceive of. You know, submarine's aircraft phenomenal,
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: wasn't it so ahead of his time.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I remember when I was about ten or twelve seeing
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: a picture of a very rudimentary helicopter drawn by Leonardo
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: da Vinci, and I'm like, when was this drawn? And
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: I think I asked my teacher, and I don't know.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: It was like fifteen something, you know, five hundred years ago,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: like five centuries ago, when you know airplanes were still
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: four centuries away. This guy was designing helicopters and even
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: conceiving that.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: That would be a thing. And then it's bloody amazing,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: all right.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Australia Post warns that foreign giants are set to dominate
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Australian online retail Do we need to panic?
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Well, not so much.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: I think this is an interesting one because we know
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: the cost of living has gone up and so people
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: are filling the pinch and it makes a lot of
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: sense that you're shopping around for the cheapest option. But
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: the problem is cheap can be exactly that. You know,
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: a friend of mine once said, the rich man buys
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: it once, the poor man buys it twice, and that,
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: unfortunately is the case with a lot of stuff that
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: you're buying off. Say some of the Chinese retailers like TMU,
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: you know where you jump on and you buy cheap
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: whatever it happens to be. So Amazon and Teamu, all
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: these online retailers, and now about I think it's about
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: twenty percent of online twenty to twenty five percent of
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: online purchasing. But the CEO of Australia Post, Paul Graham,
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: he's come out and said that these guys in the
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: next few years will have fifty percent of all purchasing
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: in Australia, which is going to mean all purchases including
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: retail outlets and online. And he's saying that effectively people,
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: this is a drug of the cheapest product, is what
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: he is saying, and that we're sh be promoting Australian
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: and people should be buying things locally and thinking in
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: those terms. You know, if you walk down say Hampton
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Street or somewhere that's a shopping strip and you see
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: shops are closing, there's a reason for that because there's
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: no demand because people are buying it online.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: It's a tough one. It's a really difficult one.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: I guess when our CEO comes out and says you
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: should do this, most people one.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Hundred percent, especially when that's CEO, is that CEO is
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: probably on a million dollars a year telling people who
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: earn fuck or with five kids how they should.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Spend their money.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, bro, get off your moral high horse
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: and just fucking run the company and let us figure
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: out what we'll do with our own money.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: And how we'll spend it.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's your job is to tell people
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: in suburbia how they should spend their money.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: So because Australia Post gets the postage of all the
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: stuff that people are buying online, So yeah, that's the
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: issue anyway. But by twenty thirty is what they're predicting
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: that Amazon and those other online platforms will control fifty
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: percent of the online market in Australia.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: And now social media companies are using data and AI
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: to figure out our age without us telling them and
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: without us even knowing that they're figuring that out.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this has been really big because of the band
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: that came into effect this week for under sixteen's, and
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: we know that it's going to be a teething process
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: because there's been lots everyone's running the stories of all
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: the under sixteens who are able to fool the new
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: protections and some kids have been able to stay on
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: all those social medias when the band is now in place,
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: the reality of it is always.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Going to be smart kids. You know, there were fourteen
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: year olds that were scrunching.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Up their face to make them look older, like fourteen
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: year old boys, is you know, scrunching up their face
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: and they got through they're like, oh yeah, you're thirty
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: and young girls putting fake eyelashes on and putting a
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: bit of makeup on it. It's like, yeah, of course you
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: are twenty five. So it's going to take time. But interestingly,
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of other things that we do online
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: that leave what they call a behavioral fingerprints, and that's
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: how a lot of the AI models are kind of saying, well, okay,
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: this is Craig.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Your interaction patterns.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Like the posts that you like and follow the topics
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: and the genres that you prefer. You know, yes, you
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: watch two thousand and one a Space Odyssey, You're probably
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: not someone under the age of sixteen. How you scroll
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: what you slow down and speed up at so the
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: interest factor there, So it might be reminiscing about the
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: eighties and you pause on it because it shows a
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: DeLorean or something. You know, these are the things that
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: younger people will scroll past, but older people won't scroll
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: as quickly. They may even pause, So just that pausing
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: for a second, even if you don't read it, This
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: is frightening. How you know, these massive companies are able
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: to use these scary algorithms to type set.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: You to know more about you.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: You behavior is what you like, say you dislikes, and
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: it could be something simple as you know, woman in
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: bikini with brown hair, woman in bikini with blonde hair.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: You pause over one and not over the other. Okay,
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: so Craig likes Brunette's. You know, literally, this is the algorithm,
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: and this is the technology that's being used to categorize
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: people who are using social media.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Wowser, wowsers, It's kind of yeah, it's an avalanche at
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: the moment. Now for Ron and Mary, my beautiful parents
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: who both can't hear, Patrick, we're scrolling down to the
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: health section just so you can keep up with me.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: For Ron and Mary, who have got real trouble hearing,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: it seems that you've got some medical advice for them
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: what they should use.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: And this is going to have a whole lot of
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: health benefits right across. Hey, Tip, why do you hear this?
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: So evidently VIAGRAA reverses damage behind deafness.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Hey Ron, Hey Ron, I'll be up on the weekend.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Don't worry.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: That helps blocked ears.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Now I've got I've got I've got periodic deafness. Yeah,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: how he is? Now? Oh shit ouse, but my cock's
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: as hard as a rock. I still can't hear though, OK,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: now that'd be my luck.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: Well, we're talking about a serious form of deafness here,
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: craigo right.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Born with hearing loss. I'm sorry, sorry for not being serious.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Patrick Patrick's like, hey, pay attention. You wrote, you've.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Put it on the list.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: It literally says biagra of reversus damage behind deafness, And
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: then what do you want me not to make fun
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: of that?
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: This is a win win all round. Good.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, this is scientifically valid and also fucking hilarious and
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: also opened the door for a cock joke.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: You're welcome. It's like the trifecta.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well so this that's basically it. Yeah, that's great
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: that the viagra is having this multi purpose usage.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: I think it's fantastic. I'm sorry for all the fluffers
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: who lost their job causation or correlation.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know that's a good Patrick Patrick just said, Tiff,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry for all the fluffers who lost their job.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Do you know do you know what a fluffer is?
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: Yes? Yes? Someone that yes?
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Tell our tell our younger listeners what a fluffer is.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Just in light now younger listeners who are going, I
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: don't know what a fluffer is.
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: Someone whose job it is to make sure a person
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: is aptly prepared to perform.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: What person in what context? For what job?
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: A bloke who needs to.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: But what job? What job?
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: We're not talking about Brian and reservoir. Yes, it's in porn.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: So there used to be there, used to be these
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: people and their job was just to get old mate
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: ready to go. But that person got replaced by a pill.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Talk about technology, imagine saying a pill took my.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Job, especially if you've had your own news skill.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: Hey, what happens if that fluffer as he got older,
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: then goes death. It's like we can give you viagra.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: No way, he stole my job. I'm not taking that. Sorry.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: I don't think fluffers were boys, Patrick in the most part,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: I guess, so I don't know that.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Maybe on your pawn that's.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Over here, over here, point.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: That's so funny.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: That's so funny. The US plans to order foreign tourists,
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: including Ozzies, to disclose social media histories.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: What yes, forty countries around the world that are on
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: what they call visa exempt, so the visa exempt countries,
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: so Australians and New Zealands are included in that. Effectively,
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: you would have to when applying for a entry into
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: the US, you would have to disclose all of your
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: social media data since twenty nineteen.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Wow, this is a Trump initiative. Yep, how how do
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: we even Yeah, why do they need that? What can
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: they even like? There must be so many people coming in.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: How on earth do they disseminate that this.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Is before you enter the country.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: You've got to give them access to your social media
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: for five years before you can enter the country.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: It only just came out.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: Recently, and look, I don't even know how that would
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: work in terms of how you do it. But when
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: you make the tourist visa application, you know we are
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: visa exempt in Australia, but maying to get into the country,
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: you've got to basically say, because they're saying they want
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: to filter out people who may have had bad opinions
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: about the US, if you've said something bad about Donald Trump,
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: you couldn't effectively be kicked out or not allowed into
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: the country.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: So much of a free speech now apparently if I'm
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: going to have an account with a password, I shouldn't
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: use admin ad M. I N I shouldn't use that
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: as my password. Who would have thought, Patrick?
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: I know?
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: Or if you happen to have a very famous art
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: gallery and you have security cameras, maybe not use the
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: word louve as.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Your password via security system. Is that true? Is that
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: what happened? No?
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: No, no, okay, because they just got robbed.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: You're being funny. That's true, Look it up? Is it
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: actually true? Yeah?
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: Evidently an earlier password was louve with capital although.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: It couldn't crook spell louve. That might have been if
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: they weren't friends, ye had probably not. Wow, I love
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: this one. A Sydney car theft was basically thwarted by
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: crooks who couldn't drive.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: A manual I know, isn't that great?
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: So they tried to steal a car and then they
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: had to abandon it because they.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Didn't know drive a manual car.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: That's the sign of the times, isn't it.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: It's pretty hard to get a manual car these days.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: It's not many on the market.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: A friend of mine, who's an older woman in her seventies,
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: bought a bright fire engine red WRX because she wanted
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: to have a manual car and it was one of
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: the few on the market.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: So now she's just this hoon.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Driving around the land a red w Hi Judy, if
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: you're listening, Hi Judy, Lady.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Bogan, I'm with you.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Duty. I've got a six speed manual. Best thing ever,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: it's kind of driving automatic. I've got yeah, I've got
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: an automatic as well, but it's like it's kind of
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: I think, you know. I was listening to this guy
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: that you may or may not know called Stephen Bartlett Patrick.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Do you know him?
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: He has a very big podcast, one of the top
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: ten in the world called CEO of a Diary.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Sorry Diary of a CEO.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Sorry fuck, Come on, harps, how's your dyslexia? And he
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: was just talking about how he has two autonomous vehicles
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: and he's in LA. He doesn't drive anymore, so he
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: just goes and gets in his car, tells it or
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: whatever you do, program it, tell it where to take you.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Sits in the passenger seat or I don't know, maybe
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: the driver's seat, and it just takes him wherever he
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: wants to go. You'd be pretty comfortable with that. Wouldn't
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: you like I think you would like that?
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Or am I wrong? Definitely?
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: If I was driving in Melbourne, I would I get
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: white knuckle. I've been living in the country for nearly
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: seventeen years. I get white knuckle driving in Melbourne. It's
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: awful traffic, people cutting you off, no one uses indicators.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: Damn. I'd be going for an autonomous car much safer.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: TIF if you had to choose for the next two years,
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: you can have an autonomous car and it'll drive you everywhere.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: You've just got to get in it, or you've got
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: to drive yourself anywhere and needed to be one or
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: the other.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: What would you choose?
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: I think once I tried it, like the idea of
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: it freaks me out, but then the idea of trusting it.
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: If I trusted it, yeah, hell yeah, but I would
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: I would go weired it out by the idea of it.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: At first, for me, it.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Just freeze up time, especially going to see ron A
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Marror every time.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: It's four hours.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I could sit in the back and
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: do podcasts or have meetings or have a snoozy mac
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: snoozeter or you know, I could do I could do
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: what to make a casserole.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: I could do it on Well, I do that on
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: the time.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: I'm going into Melbourne on Sunday morning, and I thought,
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go in the city.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Why would I drive? And then you got to worry
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: about parking. Just jump on the train. So effectively the
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: same thing.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: As well, well it effectively the same. I don't know
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: that a train is the same as an autonomous car,
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: but anyway, I'm not driving it.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Someone else is driving it.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah you can, Patrick. Where can people find you, Patrick?
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: And where can they get their website built and their
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: social media pump and their brand accelerated? Where can they
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: do all of that?
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: You really think, on the strength of today's conversation, anybody's
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: going to contact me. But anyway, it's it's websites now,
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: dot com dot Au, websites now to com today you
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: or ty shit at home dot com today you. I'm
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: about to put some new training exercises on my channel
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: that I haven't updated since COVID because my students have
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: all said, we had our last class night last night,
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: and so I've got to put some new X sizes
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: and tight chi workouts for people over the holidays.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Patrick. Thank you, Tiffany and Cook. Have
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: a good weekend, both of you. Quickly, tiff what are
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: you doing on the weekend?
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: Quickly, I'm about to head up to Gisbon today and
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: be in the country for a couple of days.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: Oh really, Oh nice? What's in Gisbone?
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Is there something?
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Patrick?
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: What are you doing?
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: I have two choir performances with our local community choir.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: I've got a chee break up. I'm going to a
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: vegan market in Melbourne. I'm going to dinner tonight with
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: friends at the local pub. Man, I've got so much
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: on this weekend I don't even know to stop.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: You just described my worst weekend ever. Thanks team, See
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: you next time.