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Mega Edition: Ghislaine Maxwell, Prince Andrew And Their Shared Love Of "Massages" (9/19/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. Hope
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Speaker 1: that all of you are having a great morning out
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Speaker 1: there so far, and hopefully the rest of your day
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Speaker 1: is even better. As we sit and await the verdict
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Speaker 1: from the jury in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial, I'm left
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Speaker 1: with several questions, hell, a lot more than several, but
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Speaker 1: we'll try and keep the scope small here this morning.
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Speaker 1: And one of the questions that keeps popping up in
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Speaker 1: my mind is the massage table and what sort of
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Speaker 1: relevance that had as far as them providing it as
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Speaker 1: evidence inside of the courtroom. And then when you look
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Speaker 1: at some of the other charges, the interstate charges, the
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Speaker 1: charges of bringing girls from across state lines for sex,
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Speaker 1: it starts to make a little bit more sense what
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Speaker 1: they were doing with the massage table. And this morning,
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Speaker 1: we're going to talk a little bit more about that
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Speaker 1: as we wait for this verdict. And we're going to
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Speaker 1: discuss a little bit more about how that massage table
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Speaker 1: is relevant and why they were introducing it in the
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Speaker 1: first place as evidence. Now, obviously, the jury... Is going
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Speaker 1: to take as much time as needed. Will there be
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Speaker 1: a verdict today? I don't know. Quite possible. Like I
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Speaker 1: said last night. I have a gut feeling that there
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Speaker 1: will be a verdict today. But that doesn't mean much.
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Speaker 1: It's just a guess on my part. But one thing
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Speaker 1: we do know. Is that the jury. Is going through
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Speaker 1: things with a fine tooth comb. And they're definitely being
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Speaker 1: very deliberate. Now. Does that bode well for the prosecution?
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Speaker 1: Does that bode well for the defense? I don't know.
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Speaker 1: But what I will tell you is this. We are
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Speaker 1: almost at the point. Where all the questions are going
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Speaker 1: to be put to rest. And hopefully. They're going to
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Speaker 1: be replaced with some answers. Because throughout this whole entire thing.
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Speaker 1: At least for the three years or so that I've
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Speaker 1: been covering it. All we seem to get. Are a
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Speaker 1: lot more questions. And no answers. So hopefully. Today. Tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: Next day or two. Whatever it may be. We get
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Speaker 1: the answer. At the very least. On Ghislaine Maxwell's fate.
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Speaker 1: Because I'll tell you what folks. After all of the
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Speaker 1: stuff that we have read. All of the articles that
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Speaker 1: we have been through. All of the information that we have.
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Speaker 1: Porned over. It is very obvious to me that Ghislaine Maxwell,
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Speaker 1: the CORE 4, and the rest of Jeffrey Epstein's associates
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Speaker 1: should have all been arrested the first time around when
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Speaker 1: he originally got arrested. And they were all let off
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Speaker 1: the hook. All because of that non-prosecution agreement and the
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Speaker 1: spaghetti-spined prosecutors in Florida that played ball with Epstein. So
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Speaker 1: for all of these years, Maxwell has been able to
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Speaker 1: avoid being in the spotlight, really. Being put under the microscope.
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Speaker 1: Having to answer the allegations presented before her. But all
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Speaker 1: of that, that's all ended. And now Ghislaine Maxwell is
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Speaker 1: sitting there with her fate in the hands of what
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Speaker 1: I would guess are a bunch of working class, middle class,
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Speaker 1: lower class, middle class Americans. And that does not seem
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Speaker 1: like it's going to be a good feeling for Ghislaine
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Speaker 1: Maxwell when those she hates the most are the ones
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Speaker 1: that are going to decide her fate. And when they
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Speaker 1: do decide her fate, they're going to be taking a
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Speaker 1: lot of things into account. And one of those things,
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Speaker 1: like I discussed here a second ago in the opening,
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Speaker 1: is this massage table. So we're going to talk a
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Speaker 1: little bit more about this massage table right now. And
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Speaker 1: how it's relevant moving forward. This is an article from
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Speaker 1: the New York Post. Headline. Here's why Epstein's massage table
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Speaker 1: could land Maxwell a 40 year sentence. This article was
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Speaker 1: authored by Ben Fuerherd. Jeffrey Epstein's green massage table was
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Speaker 1: rolled into the courtroom as evidence in Ghislaine Maxwell's trial.
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Speaker 1: Because it's key to the top charge the accused madam, co-conspirator,
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Speaker 1: general all-around scuzzbag, faces. The unorthodox piece of evidence was
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Speaker 1: raised by Assistant U.S. Attorney Alison Moe in her closing
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Speaker 1: argument Monday as she explained the lone sex trafficking charge
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Speaker 1: against Maxwell, which involves an element of interstate commerce. And
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Speaker 1: that's where the massage table comes in, right? The interstate
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Speaker 1: commerce part. The sex trafficking count relates only to testimony
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Speaker 1: from Maxwell accuser Carolyn, who said she was groped by
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Speaker 1: the disgraced socialite, co-conspirator, general all-around scuzzbag and bipedal serpent,
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Speaker 1: at age 14 while preparing to massage Epstein. So the
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Speaker 1: idea here is that this table was made in California
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Speaker 1: but shipped to Florida. And according to Allison Moe and
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Speaker 1: the prosecutors, that would affect the Interstate Commerce Clause. And
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Speaker 1: that would also move forward the charges of Ghislaine Maxwell
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Speaker 1: and sex trafficking. So it seems like a mundane bit
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Speaker 1: of information, right? And kind of like a situation where
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Speaker 1: when it was happening, we're like, why are they even
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Speaker 1: introducing this massage table? What sort of role is that
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Speaker 1: going to play? But it makes sense when you hear
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Speaker 1: their closing statement. The closing arguments from the prosecution. And
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Speaker 1: what they're positing the table to mean. The charge carries
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Speaker 1: a maximum sentence of 40 years in prison. The stiffest
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Speaker 1: penalty of the six counts against Maxwell. Because Carolyn was
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Speaker 1: abused by Epstein on a massage table that was made
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Speaker 1: in California and shipped to Florida... That alone affects interstate commerce,
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Speaker 1: Moe said in her closing argument, and it also bolsters
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Speaker 1: the argument that these girls were being shipped across state
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Speaker 1: lines for sexual purposes. We all know that that was
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Speaker 1: the case. We know that Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein
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Speaker 1: weren't flying these girls all over the place out of
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Speaker 1: the kindness of their hearts. Ah, you know, we know
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Speaker 1: that you've had it rough. You come from a broken home.
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Speaker 1: Parents were on drugs. You were abused by your relatives.
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Speaker 1: So we're going to make your life better. We just
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Speaker 1: want you to come hang out with us and get
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Speaker 1: a taste of the good life. Now, if that was
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Speaker 1: what Epstein and Maxwell were doing, boy, this wouldn't even
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Speaker 1: be a conversation, would it? But that's not what they
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Speaker 1: were doing. That's how they would set it up. We
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Speaker 1: want to take care of you. We're going to help you.
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Speaker 1: Here's some money. Oh no, this isn't abuse, this is
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Speaker 1: normal behavior. Look at all the other girls doing it.
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Speaker 1: Even Ghislaine Maxwell, Oxford-educated, posh Ghislaine Maxwell, is involved. And
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Speaker 1: that was their whole shtick, wasn't it? The whole entire scam.
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Speaker 1: When she was abused on a massage table that was
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Speaker 1: manufactured in California, that proves that there was at least
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Speaker 1: a minimal effect on interstate commerce, which is all that
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Speaker 1: is required for this count, Mull told jurors. And while
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Speaker 1: it seems like a weak connection, she is not wrong.
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Speaker 1: That is all that really matters to prove that there
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Speaker 1: was minimal effect on interstate commerce here. And if you're
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Speaker 1: going by the letter of the law, which they should be,
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Speaker 1: then that should affect Maxwell and how the jurors read
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Speaker 1: these accusations. You can't use interstate commerce in the pursuit
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Speaker 1: of criminal activities such as human trafficking. And again, I
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Speaker 1: ask you, like a broken record at this point, where
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Speaker 1: is the Mann Act charges? Where are all of the
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Speaker 1: heavy-ass federal charges that they love to drop on people?
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Speaker 1: Those of you who have listened to this podcast, you
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Speaker 1: know I've screamed from mountaintops about this. I've seen Rico
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Speaker 1: unleashed on regular folks, people I care about, for things
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Speaker 1: as ridiculous as quote-unquote illegal sports gambling. Yet these people
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Speaker 1: are able to get away with this shit for so long.
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Speaker 1: They're able to use... Stuff like the massage table and
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Speaker 1: engage in interstate commerce in the pursuit of human trafficking.
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Speaker 1: And there's no gigantic federal pop for that. The two-tier
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Speaker 1: justice system is alive and well, folks. And it's right
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Speaker 1: there in front of all of your faces. You just
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Speaker 1: have to be willing to see what's going on here.
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Speaker 1: And I don't care what side of the political aisle
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Speaker 1: you're on. Guess what? It doesn't matter to them either. Okay? Okay?
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Speaker 1: If you're the, you're working class, you're the working poor,
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Speaker 1: you're nothing to them. You are a piece on the
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Speaker 1: game board just look at the way they treat their
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Speaker 1: endless wars look at the way they treat the poor
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Speaker 1: ah you know what the people are starving that's right
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Speaker 1: let them eat war and on and on and on
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Speaker 1: it goes Jurors must also weigh a number of other
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Speaker 1: elements to convict Maxwell on the count, including whether she
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Speaker 1: knew Carolyn was under 18, that she knowingly recruited her,
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Speaker 1: and that she caused Carolyn to engage in a commercial
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Speaker 1: sex act, Moe said. Check, check, check, check. She knew
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Speaker 1: Carolyn was under 18. She knowingly recruited her, and she
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Speaker 1: caused Carolyn to engage in a commercial sex act. All
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Speaker 1: of that. All the boxes are checked. So with that,
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Speaker 1: the jury should take a look at this and see
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Speaker 1: exactly what we're seeing as well. And again, it seems
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Speaker 1: like a mundane fact, right? The massage table. And it's
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Speaker 1: not a huge piece of evidence, right? Like a huge
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Speaker 1: piece of evidence that you would traditionally see. But it
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Speaker 1: does put the pieces together here and it ties together
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Speaker 1: their commercial sex act in an interstate manner. So that is...
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Speaker 1: what the whole entire premise behind this table is and was.
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Speaker 1: After her summation, Maxwell defense attorney Bobby Sternum objected to
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Speaker 1: the characterization of the table affecting interstate commerce, but was
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Speaker 1: overruled by Judge Allison Nathan. Of course the massage table
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Speaker 1: was used in the course of the crime here, Prosecutor
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Speaker 1: Andrew Rohrbach said after Sternum raised the objection on Monday.
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Speaker 1: So they tried to object to it, the table being
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Speaker 1: used to affect interstate commerce, meaning Maxwell's defense team, and
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Speaker 1: they were shot down by Judge Nathan. And that's another
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Speaker 1: reason why I'm bringing this up, because I think it's
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Speaker 1: going to prove relevant moving forward here, obviously, to get
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Speaker 1: the charges locked in on Maxwell. So with Nathan... giving
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Speaker 1: the okay that the table did affect interstate commerce, that
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Speaker 1: signals to the jury that this in fact is what
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Speaker 1: the prosecutors are asserting that it is. A piece of
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Speaker 1: evidence used in a crime of human trafficking, interstate lines
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Speaker 1: with commerce attached to it. The massage table from the
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Speaker 1: multi-millionaire pedophile's Palm Beach estate was brought into the Manhattan
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Speaker 1: courtroom and briefly examined by a police officer who testified
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Speaker 1: on December 3rd. Now remember, this massage table, this green
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Speaker 1: massage table, was taken in the raid of Jeffrey Epstein's
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Speaker 1: house in 2005 in Palm Beach. And Officer Parkinson, who
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Speaker 1: was one of the witnesses, was the one who gave
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Speaker 1: the testimony in the courtroom about the massage table. that
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Speaker 1: it was the exact massage table, all of that stuff
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Speaker 1: confirmed that it was the evidence that they seized, and
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Speaker 1: even set it up in the courtroom. The dark green
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Speaker 1: collapsible table was shown to jurors as Assistant U.S. Attorney
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Speaker 1: Maureen Comey quizzed former Palm Beach Police Officer Gregory Parkinson
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Speaker 1: about a search warrant he, and other cops, executed at
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Speaker 1: the estate in 2005. Parkinson put on black disposable gloves
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Speaker 1: and briefly examined the table in the middle of the
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Speaker 1: courtroom about 10 feet away from where Maxwell sat with
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Speaker 1: her defense attorneys. So remember, think back to December 3rd,
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Speaker 1: all the way back to the very beginning of this, basically,
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Speaker 1: and Parkinson's testimony. And we talked about it a little
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Speaker 1: bit then about the table and how, you know, it
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Speaker 1: was seems to be a bit inconsequential. But later on
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Speaker 1: down the road, when you get all of the arguments
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Speaker 1: locked in, things start to make a little bit more sense.
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Speaker 1: And that certainly is the case with this massage table,
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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. He then told Comey that it
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Speaker 1: was indeed the massage table seized from Epstein's estate on
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Speaker 1: October 20th, 2005, the day he and other officers searched
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Speaker 1: the mansion. Now, they found a whole bevy of stuff
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Speaker 1: in that mansion folks all kinds of videos and pictures
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Speaker 1: and who knows what the hell else they found the
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Speaker 1: question is where is all of that stuff and why
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Speaker 1: wasn't any of it used to get more convictions here
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Speaker 1: we also know that at some point Epstein's lawyers left
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Speaker 1: Epstein's house in Palm Beach after the first arrest with
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Speaker 1: a hard drive and a bag full of other stuff
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Speaker 1: So where did all of this stuff go? And why
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Speaker 1: weren't all of Epstein's properties raided at the very same time?
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Speaker 1: Oh sure, we saw the raid in New York and
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Speaker 1: we saw it in Florida. Oh, we saw them head
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Speaker 1: on down to the Virgin Islands, but not all at
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Speaker 1: the same time. The second this asshole was arrested, the
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Speaker 1: second that plane landed in Teterboro. They should have took
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Speaker 1: him into custody. And at the same time they took
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Speaker 1: him into custody, every single one of his homes should
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Speaker 1: have been raided from New Mexico all the way down
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Speaker 1: to the Virgin Islands. Every one of them at the
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Speaker 1: same time should have had those doors kicked in. But
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Speaker 1: that didn't occur. So when you piecemeal it and you
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Speaker 1: do it a little bit at a time, of course
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Speaker 1: evidence is going to be hidden. Of course you're going
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Speaker 1: to miss things. And of course Epstein's going to be
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Speaker 1: able to continue with his disgusting deviancy. It's from the
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Speaker 1: second floor, south bathroom, where the shower was, he said.
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Speaker 1: The jury in the Maxwell trial deliberated for a full
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Speaker 1: day Monday and sent four notes to the judge requesting
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Speaker 1: transcripts of testimony and clarifications on what evidence they can
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Speaker 1: consider for the counts against her. So as we sit
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Speaker 1: here today, folks, and we wait for this verdict, as
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Speaker 1: we wait for the jury to come back with a
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Speaker 1: decision on Ghislaine Maxwell's future, we're left with a lot
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Speaker 1: of questions still. And a lot of people have legitimate questions.
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Speaker 1: Hopefully we get some more answers. Because I'll tell you,
16:33
Speaker 1: up until this point, every time you get one question answered, well,
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Speaker 1: there's about 10 more questions that come right after it.
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Speaker 1: And it's been like that since, at the very least,
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Speaker 1: since I started looking into this case three years ago.
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Speaker 1: And I don't see it changing anytime soon. So we'll
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Speaker 1: see what the jury comes up with, folks. We'll see
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Speaker 1: if today is the day, if it's going to take
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Speaker 1: them a little bit longer or whatever it is. We're
17:03
Speaker 1: going to be here for it every single morning, every
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Speaker 1: single evening. Now, tomorrow, day after, you name it, until
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Speaker 1: we get this verdict. And then after the verdict, oh, what,
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Speaker 1: you think the conversation is over? These people are still
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Speaker 1: out there running the streets. the people who were working
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Speaker 1: with Epstein, the remnants of his operation, the Core Four.
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Speaker 1: There is still a very, very long and sordid story
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Speaker 1: to be told here, folks. And hopefully, with a conviction
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Speaker 1: of Ghislaine Maxwell, we start moving towards that whole entire
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Speaker 1: story unfolding. As for this morning, that's going to wrap
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Speaker 1: it up, folks. And we're going to sit back now
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Speaker 1: and we're going to wait to see what occurs throughout
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Speaker 1: the day. Obviously, like usual, context episodes coming your way.
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Speaker 1: And then tonight, the evening update, hopefully the verdict edition.
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Speaker 1: So I hope that all of you have a great
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18:35
Speaker 1: Biden and everyone and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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Speaker 1: Last night, we were talking about the massage therapist who
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Speaker 1: has come forward and says that while she was working
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Speaker 1: in the employment of Prince Andrew, that he was rude, crude,
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Speaker 1: and in her words, a sex pest. Now, we also
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Speaker 1: learned in that interview that Prince Andrew's non-friend, Ghislaine Maxwell,
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Speaker 1: was the one who set it all up. She's the
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Speaker 1: one who facilitated the meeting and made it all happen. Well,
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Speaker 1: that's a pretty... Awesome trick for somebody who doesn't even
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Speaker 1: know Prince Andrew. I'd like to know how they pulled
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Speaker 1: that off. But here we are. Well, today, in a
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Speaker 1: new article from the Daily Mail, they go in a
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Speaker 1: little bit further. They talk a little bit more about
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Speaker 1: the relationship between Ghislaine Maxwell and this massage therapist and
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Speaker 1: how Maxwell was the facilitator here to provide this lady
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Speaker 1: to Prince Andrew. And again, it just shows you that
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Speaker 1: he's lying through his teeth. about the relationship that he
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Speaker 1: shared with Ghislaine Maxwell. Just shows you how close they are.
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Speaker 1: So you tell me you're just an acquaintance and I'm
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Speaker 1: sending you over a massage therapist? Not only that, but
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Speaker 1: a massage therapist to the palace? You only do that
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Speaker 1: when you're very good friends or when someone has your confidence.
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Speaker 1: And it just keeps building and building and building the
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Speaker 1: profile here of Prince Andrew being an epic and utter liar.
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Speaker 1: So let's jump into this article from the Daily Mail
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Speaker 1: and let's see what they came up with. Headline. Masseuse
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Speaker 1: reveals Ghislaine Maxwell told her, I am going to introduce
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Speaker 1: you to someone more famous than God when she booked
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Speaker 1: her to give Prince Andrew a naked massage at Buckingham Palace.
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute. What? Backtrack a minute. More famous than God?
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Speaker 1: This is the kind of image these people have of themselves.
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Speaker 1: More famous than God, huh? Dude's not even in line
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Speaker 1: for the crown anymore. Wasn't then either. And he's more
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Speaker 1: famous than God. Okay, I guess. This article was authored
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Speaker 1: by Vivek Shadhari and Shekhar Bhatia. A female masseuse has
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Speaker 1: revealed how she was booked to give a naked massage
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Speaker 1: to Prince Andrew in Buckingham Palace by convicted sex trafficker
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Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell. And we know that that was one of
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Speaker 1: Maxwell's main duties within Jeffrey Epstein's sphere, right? She was
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Speaker 1: making sure that these massages were correct. She was making
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Speaker 1: sure that they were performed correctly on her boy. And
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Speaker 1: she was there every step of the way to facilitate
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Speaker 1: it all. Now, she's doing the same thing for Andrew here,
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Speaker 1: but not in the same manner, right? This isn't a child.
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Speaker 1: This isn't someone who's being human trafficked. But she's still
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Speaker 1: acting in the same role that we always see her
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Speaker 1: acting in. And that is of a facilitator. Monique Gia
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Speaker 1: Loney told Mail Online that the massage for the royal
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Speaker 1: was arranged in June 2000 after she had massaged Maxwell
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Speaker 1: on two occasions at her London home with pedophile Jeffrey
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Speaker 1: Epstein also present. So Maxwell's at her London home and
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Speaker 1: the massage therapist gets a call to come over and
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Speaker 1: do some work on her. And Jeffrey Epstein happens to
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Speaker 1: be there as well, huh? The massage therapist, who was
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Speaker 1: a member of the British Register of Complementary Practitioners, was
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Speaker 1: working at a clinic in Kensington and doing home visits
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Speaker 1: at the time of the royal encounter on June 30, 2000,
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Speaker 1: and counted Maxwell among her clients. So, she was definitely
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Speaker 1: working with, you know, posh-type people. Working with Maxwell, working
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Speaker 1: with Prince Andrew after that, and the list goes on
22:43
Speaker 1: and on. One thing I will say here is at
22:45
Speaker 1: least this is a legit massage therapist, right? When we're
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Speaker 1: talking about the other girls that give the massages, 15, 16, 17,
22:53
Speaker 1: none of these young girls had any experience giving massages,
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Speaker 1: went to school for it or anything like that. They
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Speaker 1: were simply picked up off the street or from Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump's golf club or wherever you think that Epstein might
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Speaker 1: be hanging out. And then they would be told they
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Speaker 1: were going to become massage therapists. So at least here
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Speaker 1: with Prince Andrew, it wasn't, you know, something like that.
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Speaker 1: But still, what it does, A, shows you how tight
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Speaker 1: Prince Andrew and Maxwell were, and B, shines a big
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Speaker 1: shining light on Maxwell being a facilitator. And remember, in
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Speaker 1: the Black Book, there are a bunch of names of
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Speaker 1: girls with massage therapists next to their names from all
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Speaker 1: over the world, basically. So who the hell are a
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Speaker 1: lot of those girls, even? How many of those girls
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Speaker 1: were abused by Epstein and Maxwell? After one appointment, Maxwell,
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Speaker 1: who was last month convicted of procuring young girls for
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Speaker 1: pedophile Epstein, told her, I'm going to introduce you to
23:57
Speaker 1: someone more famous than God. She had been to the socialite,
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Speaker 1: human trafficker, Belgravia home on two occasions and given her
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Speaker 1: a massage upstairs as 67-year-old Epstein looked on. How creepy
24:10
Speaker 1: is that? And I'm not someone who goes to get
24:13
Speaker 1: a bunch of massages, but I don't think that's protocol, right?
24:16
Speaker 1: Somebody sitting in on the massage. Maybe if you're getting
24:19
Speaker 1: like a couple's massage with your girlfriend or your boyfriend
24:22
Speaker 1: or your husband, whatever. But just some creepy ass dude
24:25
Speaker 1: sitting in and watching while you get your massage. She
24:31
Speaker 1: said initially she had never heard of Maxwell, who asked
24:34
Speaker 1: her when they met. Don't you know who I am, darling?
24:36
Speaker 1: You should read the tabloids. I am a celebrity. I mean, really,
24:40
Speaker 1: I am a celebrity. You were a celebrity at the
24:43
Speaker 1: time because your dad stole a bunch of money. You
24:46
Speaker 1: were born into a bunch of money. That's your claim
24:48
Speaker 1: to fame? Well, it was. Now your claim to fame
24:51
Speaker 1: is you're a human trafficker. But before that, you just
24:54
Speaker 1: had the luck of being born into a bunch of money.
24:58
Speaker 1: And even that didn't turn out lucky for you, did it?
25:01
Speaker 1: How's daddy's fortune looking now, Ghislaine? The massage therapist researched
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Speaker 1: her online and saw her pictured with Andrew at a wedding,
25:11
Speaker 1: then realizing she was the daughter of the disgraced media tycoon,
25:15
Speaker 1: Robert Maxwell. She added, Yeah, I mean, in hindsight, who
25:18
Speaker 1: would think that a royal prince, a prince of England,
25:20
Speaker 1: would be hanging out with these convicted sex offenders? And
25:35
Speaker 1: not only that, take a look at some of the
25:37
Speaker 1: other people that were invited to the party. Harvey Weinstein,
25:41
Speaker 1: hanging out with Kevin Spacey, hanging out with old Bill Clinton,
25:44
Speaker 1: hanging out with Don Trump. All these dudes, at the
25:47
Speaker 1: very least, have allegations laid against them. And guess what,
25:52
Speaker 1: breaking news, if you're a decent human being... chances are
25:55
Speaker 1: those allegations never even exist, okay? Because, you know, you're
25:59
Speaker 1: not out there scumbagging around and touching people inappropriately and,
26:03
Speaker 1: you know, some cases raping people. You know, those are
26:07
Speaker 1: the kind of people that Prince Andrew decided to hang
26:09
Speaker 1: out with. Nobody forced him to do that. Nobody said
26:12
Speaker 1: to him, you have to hang out with Harvey Weinstein, Prince.
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Speaker 1: He chose to do that. He chose to be with Epstein.
26:18
Speaker 1: He chose to associate with Maxwell. And he chose to
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Speaker 1: be with the people he was with. Recalling the massage
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Speaker 1: she gave Andrew, the massage therapist, 57, admitted that she
26:31
Speaker 1: was shocked to see him take off his robe and
26:33
Speaker 1: stand before her naked when she entered the room in
26:36
Speaker 1: Buckingham Palace. Again, who expects that? What is this, some
26:41
Speaker 1: kind of third-rate Robert Kraft-type joint? You're in Buckingham Palace, man.
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Speaker 1: Come out in a pair of shorts. Get your massage
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Speaker 1: and be done with it. Have a little bit of couth.
26:52
Speaker 1: Too much to ask for this sick bastard though, right?
26:54
Speaker 1: He's too busy with his teddy bears hanging out and watching.
26:57
Speaker 1: I wonder if the teddy bears were present during his
26:59
Speaker 1: massage like Epstein was present during Maxwell's. She said, when
27:07
Speaker 1: I walked into the room to give him a massage,
27:09
Speaker 1: he took off his robe and was naked. I wasn't
27:12
Speaker 1: expecting that because this was obviously a very high profile
27:15
Speaker 1: person and I was very nervous. I was a bit
27:18
Speaker 1: shocked to see him without any clothes on, but it's
27:21
Speaker 1: usually the client's choice on whether they want to be
27:23
Speaker 1: naked or keep on something to protect their modesty. And look,
27:27
Speaker 1: if this is your wife doing it to you or
27:29
Speaker 1: like your... Massage therapist that always works on you when
27:33
Speaker 1: you guys have like a built understanding and a relationship.
27:36
Speaker 1: You should probably keep your chonies on, homie. I'm sure
27:40
Speaker 1: that the massage therapist doesn't want to be around your
27:42
Speaker 1: boys down there. Go ahead and keep your jaws on
27:45
Speaker 1: and let's make everybody happy here. Especially if you're the prince.
27:49
Speaker 1: You just assume that you can come out bare-assed. Letting
27:53
Speaker 1: everything wangle and dangle in the wind. Probably not the
27:57
Speaker 1: best idea. And especially considering... The massage therapist here, Mrs. Giannulloni,
28:03
Speaker 1: she wanted nothing to do with it. She added, it
28:09
Speaker 1: did feel a bit strange. Oh, excuse me. We're past that.
28:12
Speaker 1: He was naked throughout the massage, but always remained on
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Speaker 1: his front. So at least he had the decency to
28:22
Speaker 1: not roll over and give her a face full. Her
28:29
Speaker 1: revelations come as Emma Gruenbaum, another female masseuse, claimed that
28:33
Speaker 1: Andrew acted as a sex pest after massage sessions with
28:36
Speaker 1: her at the Royal Lodge in Windsor Great Park and
28:39
Speaker 1: always insisted on being naked apart from a towel. I mean,
28:44
Speaker 1: how many times are we going to have to hear
28:46
Speaker 1: allegations from people that were in this dude's realm in
28:49
Speaker 1: his life that he's a piece of garbage? I know
28:53
Speaker 1: I joke around and say, oh, dude's like King Joffrey.
28:56
Speaker 1: But the more we hear about him, the more he
28:58
Speaker 1: seems like a petulant little child. Play hide and seek.
29:03
Speaker 1: Where's my teddy bears? I'm going to have a naked massage.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to make crude comments while I'm doing it.
29:09
Speaker 1: Like I'm 17 or 18. Look, if you're 18, 19,
29:12
Speaker 1: 20 years old, I expect those kind of comments from
29:15
Speaker 1: a dude. Okay? I expect it. Dudes are stupid. We
29:18
Speaker 1: don't even become, our brains aren't even functioning correctly until
29:21
Speaker 1: we're in our 30s. but Prince Andrew should know better.
29:26
Speaker 1: He's not some 18-year-old kid just out of high school
29:28
Speaker 1: trying to impress his friends with some crude comments. She
29:35
Speaker 1: described how the Queen's second son allegedly asked her if
29:38
Speaker 1: she takes it up the A- and that she swore
29:41
Speaker 1: at Andrew and furiously told him it's none of your
29:43
Speaker 1: effing business. The incidents are alleged to have taken place
29:46
Speaker 1: over six massages as she gave him in 2005. A
29:51
Speaker 1: spokesman for Andrew declined to comment to the son on Ms.
29:54
Speaker 1: Gruenbaum's claims. Ms. Giannulloni revealed that after Maxwell raised the
30:00
Speaker 1: matter of introducing her to Andrew, she received a call
30:03
Speaker 1: from one of his staff inviting her to give him
30:05
Speaker 1: a treatment. She recalled that she was very nervous about
30:08
Speaker 1: the invitation to Buckingham Palace. She added, from the way
30:12
Speaker 1: Maxwell was talking about Andrew, I could tell they were
30:15
Speaker 1: very close. Oh, so what do you know? They were
30:17
Speaker 1: very close, were they? I thought they didn't know each other.
30:21
Speaker 1: I thought they weren't friends. Isn't that what Prince Andrew
30:26
Speaker 1: told us? Has anyone checked with Lady Victoria Hervey? I mean,
30:31
Speaker 1: she is the go-to on this, right? The be-all, end-all,
30:35
Speaker 1: the arbiter of Epstein news. The buck stops with Lady
30:39
Speaker 1: Victoria Hervey. Miss Gianloni... who now runs a restaurant in
30:50
Speaker 1: the south of France, added, I am from South Africa,
30:53
Speaker 1: and to be walking through Buckingham Palace would have been
30:55
Speaker 1: something I could never have imagined in my lifetime. And
30:59
Speaker 1: you would think, right, somebody who grew up revering the monarchy,
31:02
Speaker 1: the queen, the whole entire royal establishment, whatever, you get
31:06
Speaker 1: to go to the palace, and that's a big deal.
31:09
Speaker 1: But when you get there, you realize that Captain Sex
31:12
Speaker 1: Pest himself is lurking, running around the hallways, acting the fool,
31:16
Speaker 1: and it's no longer a great time anymore. There were
31:22
Speaker 1: gold-framed paintings of members of the royal family over the
31:25
Speaker 1: centuries and some beautiful vases on tables. It was all
31:28
Speaker 1: very grand and nothing I could ever have dreamed I
31:31
Speaker 1: would see. I mean, how much money does all of
31:35
Speaker 1: that stuff cost? All of the stuff that's inside of
31:38
Speaker 1: that royal palace. I can only imagine the price of
31:43
Speaker 1: that stuff. She said she first came into contact with
31:48
Speaker 1: Maxwell when she received a call to her mobile phone
31:50
Speaker 1: from the socialite secretary. You mean human trafficker secretary, right?
31:55
Speaker 1: She said she had been working in London as a
31:56
Speaker 1: massage therapist for four years and worked with a number
32:00
Speaker 1: of celebrity and high net worth clients. She said, out
32:03
Speaker 1: of the blue, I got a call from Ghislaine's secretary.
32:06
Speaker 1: I can't remember her name, but she was based in
32:09
Speaker 1: New York. I'm guessing it was Sarah Kellen Vickers or
32:12
Speaker 1: one of the core four, maybe Leslie Groff, Adriana Ross,
32:15
Speaker 1: one of them. But see, at least here, this is
32:19
Speaker 1: a professional massage therapist, right? That's how they would muddy
32:23
Speaker 1: the waters. They'd have that book and they'd have real
32:25
Speaker 1: massage therapists that are actual professionals. And then they'd have
32:29
Speaker 1: the girls that they're abusing marked down as massage therapists
32:32
Speaker 1: as well. Everything was shrouded under this umbrella of, quote unquote,
32:38
Speaker 1: getting a massage therapist. It was at night and she
32:44
Speaker 1: said her boss was coming into London late that evening.
32:47
Speaker 1: She wanted to book a massage at 11 p.m. I
32:49
Speaker 1: said I was sorry and I didn't do massages that
32:52
Speaker 1: late at night. She was quite insistent and said Maxwell
32:55
Speaker 1: would be very tired. But I gave her an appointment
32:58
Speaker 1: for around 10.30 a.m. the next morning. I went to
33:02
Speaker 1: her house in Belgravia and recall it was a cobbled street.
33:06
Speaker 1: She was busy talking to someone, her lawyer or accountant,
33:09
Speaker 1: and she kept me waiting. She then asked me, darling,
33:13
Speaker 1: can you go and buy me some cigarettes? I was
33:16
Speaker 1: annoyed by her arrogant attitude and felt she was wasting
33:19
Speaker 1: my time. Imagine you show up there as a massage
33:22
Speaker 1: therapist and this snooty ass lady says to you, darling,
33:26
Speaker 1: do you mind going to get me some cigarettes? I
33:30
Speaker 1: can't even imagine. The answer would be, um, no, absolutely not.
33:34
Speaker 1: Not going to get you anything. Do you want this
33:35
Speaker 1: massage or not, lady? I bought her cigarettes and waited
33:41
Speaker 1: for another hour or so, by which time she gave
33:43
Speaker 1: me her checkbook and told me to write up what
33:45
Speaker 1: she owed me. Our next appointment was a few days later.
33:49
Speaker 1: I was shown to a room upstairs and was asked
33:51
Speaker 1: to massage her on the bed, but I insisted on
33:54
Speaker 1: using my own table. Who asks for a massage on
33:56
Speaker 1: a bed? That's like for intimacy purposes, right? You come
33:59
Speaker 1: home from a long day at work. Your lady's waiting
34:02
Speaker 1: for you. She wants to give you a shoulder rub
34:04
Speaker 1: real quick. Something like that. Not a professional setting. If
34:08
Speaker 1: I'm going to get a massage, I want to sit
34:09
Speaker 1: on one of them tables with my face in that hole,
34:12
Speaker 1: and I want you to drop the people's elbow on
34:14
Speaker 1: my back, all right? It was a small room and
34:19
Speaker 1: very little space around the bed, which was quite big.
34:22
Speaker 1: Epstein was present during the massage, and there was an
34:25
Speaker 1: animated discussion going on between the two that lasted most
34:28
Speaker 1: of the time. They were talking about purchasing an island.
34:32
Speaker 1: They were mentioning millions of pounds and speaking very pretentiously,
34:35
Speaker 1: and I thought, who are these people? And we heard
34:38
Speaker 1: the same thing from a lot of the survivors, Maria
34:40
Speaker 1: Farmer especially, told us what these people really think about us.
34:45
Speaker 1: And if anybody thinks that Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein
34:48
Speaker 1: and people like them have a good opinion of you,
34:51
Speaker 1: you are sorely mistaken. The massage therapist also revealed that
34:58
Speaker 1: Maxwell asked if she would give massages to guests attending
35:01
Speaker 1: a party on his yacht, but she refused because she
35:04
Speaker 1: found him to be too creepy. Talk about having that
35:06
Speaker 1: east side situational awareness going here in Las Vegas. That's
35:10
Speaker 1: what we call it. You live on the east side.
35:12
Speaker 1: You got to have that head on a swivel because
35:13
Speaker 1: you never know when something's going to crack off. So
35:16
Speaker 1: good thing for the massage therapist here that she had
35:19
Speaker 1: her east side situational awareness going and she was ready
35:24
Speaker 1: and prepared for dealing with a creep like Jeffrey Epstein.
35:29
Speaker 1: She added, she told me about a yacht party she
35:31
Speaker 1: was hosting and asked me if I would be prepared
35:33
Speaker 1: to go and give massages. She told me that I
35:36
Speaker 1: would have to keep private what happened on the yacht.
35:38
Speaker 1: I assumed she meant anything goes. I politely declined the
35:42
Speaker 1: invitation because it did not sound like the sort of
35:44
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to be involved with. I thought she
35:47
Speaker 1: was very distasteful and pretentious the way she spoke. I
35:51
Speaker 1: didn't like her attitude or her at all. I was
35:54
Speaker 1: very shocked when it all came about Epstein's friendship with Andrew. So, look,
35:59
Speaker 1: she's telling you here, another person's telling you here, how
36:02
Speaker 1: close her and Andrew were. telling you about how this
36:06
Speaker 1: is the person who introduced andrew to me how many
36:09
Speaker 1: more instances do we need how many more times do
36:12
Speaker 1: we need to point to and say hey look here's
36:15
Speaker 1: more evidence in my opinion epstein was not a good
36:19
Speaker 1: choice of a friend for andrew talk about the understatement
36:23
Speaker 1: of the year prince andrew would have been better off
36:27
Speaker 1: hanging out with saddam hussein The idea and the thought
36:33
Speaker 1: of hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein is the worst idea,
36:36
Speaker 1: the worst thought that anyone could have. Never mind the
36:39
Speaker 1: Prince of England. So there you have it, folks. The
36:43
Speaker 1: days are turning into weeks and then the weeks are
36:46
Speaker 1: going to turn into months. And before you know it,
36:48
Speaker 1: a whole gigantic profile of this man and the way
36:53
Speaker 1: he behaves in his personal life is going to be
36:55
Speaker 1: built and put right in front of us. And that's
36:59
Speaker 1: how it happens. Starts with one person, then another. When
37:02
Speaker 1: these people who were once in power lose that power,
37:05
Speaker 1: then those who they abused or those that they stepped
37:08
Speaker 1: on feel emboldened to come forward and tell their stories,
37:12
Speaker 1: talk about what they went through dealing with these people.
37:15
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, I am here for it.
37:18
Speaker 1: So that's going to wrap it up for tonight. And
37:21
Speaker 1: we will certainly... What's up, everyone? And welcome to another
37:24
Speaker 1: episode of the Epstein Chronicles. So the Democrats on the
37:29
Speaker 1: House committee that is overseeing the Jeffrey Epstein investigation, and
37:34
Speaker 1: once again, the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family, is
37:37
Speaker 1: directly in the spotlight. Because now we're getting confirmation of
37:41
Speaker 1: things we've already known for years, and that's that Andrew
37:45
Speaker 1: flew on Epstein's jet and he received massages. And not
37:48
Speaker 1: only that, but we've heard reports that he had his
37:51
Speaker 1: own little travel mattress that he brought with him. And
37:54
Speaker 1: I'll let you figure out what kind of activities necessitate
37:57
Speaker 1: Bring in your own mattress. I mean, seems a bit
37:59
Speaker 1: weird to me, right? I know that when I was
38:02
Speaker 1: a kid, I had a friend who used to bring
38:03
Speaker 1: his own pillow when he'd stay the night places. But
38:06
Speaker 1: a Prince of England having his own favorite mattress for
38:10
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein's plane? That doesn't strike anybody else as odd.
38:14
Speaker 1: Or how about the fact that good old Billy Boy
38:16
Speaker 1: Clinton had his own preferred seat on the plane? That
38:21
Speaker 1: tells you all you need to know about how much
38:23
Speaker 1: Bill was on that plane. And it smashes all of
38:26
Speaker 1: the little stories that the Prince of Punkasses, aka the
38:29
Speaker 1: Joe Exotic of the Windsor family, likes to tell us
38:32
Speaker 1: about his time with Epstein. We already know that you're lying.
38:37
Speaker 1: And now that this documentation's coming out, we're getting confirmation.
38:42
Speaker 1: Today's article is from the Times and the headline, Andrew
38:45
Speaker 1: flew on Jeffrey Epstein's jet and received massages. And look,
38:49
Speaker 1: that's very disturbing as well. In Jeffrey Epstein's world, we
38:53
Speaker 1: know that massage was short For sex. That was their
38:56
Speaker 1: code word. You know, when you're hanging out in college,
38:59
Speaker 1: you call cocaine blow? Same kind of shit. But for them,
39:03
Speaker 1: that's how they referred to them abusing girls. Oh, we're
39:06
Speaker 1: getting a massage. This article was authored by Josie Enzor.
39:12
Speaker 1: Prince Andrew traveled on board Jeffrey Epstein's private jet and
39:16
Speaker 1: received several massages, which appear to have been paid for
39:19
Speaker 1: with $ 200 checks, according to newly released documents, paper trail, receipts...
39:25
Speaker 1: equals Prince Andrew is cooked. There is no getting out
39:29
Speaker 1: of this. one. And all the people out there that
39:32
Speaker 1: supported him, all the people out there that thought he
39:34
Speaker 1: was innocent, thought he wasn't lying, thought that Virginia was
39:37
Speaker 1: just trying to go after the royal family, here's an idea.
39:41
Speaker 1: Sit down and shut up. Talk about a bunch of morons.
39:46
Speaker 1: Imagine trying to gaslight people into believing that that picture...
39:49
Speaker 1: that we saw with Virginia and Prince Andrew's bitch ass,
39:53
Speaker 1: was fake? Anybody who pitched that story to me, I
39:56
Speaker 1: knew right away that they were bullshitting, and they didn't
39:58
Speaker 1: care about the truth. They were running some kind of nonsense.
40:02
Speaker 1: And you can miss me with all that bullshit. The
40:05
Speaker 1: Duke is listed as a passenger on Epstein's jet on
40:08
Speaker 1: May 12, 2000, flying from Teterboro Private Airport, New Jersey,
40:13
Speaker 1: to Palm Beach, Florida, where the financier, pedophile, had a home.
40:17
Speaker 1: The U.S. Oversight Committee confirmed released a third tranche of
40:20
Speaker 1: documents on Friday that were handed over by the Epstein
40:24
Speaker 1: estate through a subpoena. And you know what's wild? How
40:28
Speaker 1: come nobody subpoenaed the estate previously? All this time they've
40:31
Speaker 1: had to do it, nobody's thought to do that? Nobody
40:34
Speaker 1: thought that maybe, just maybe, they might have some information
40:37
Speaker 1: that could help the investigation move along? Oh, that's right.
40:41
Speaker 1: There'd actually have to be an investigation for that to occur.
40:46
Speaker 1: One document was a flight manifest, the other, heavily redacted
40:49
Speaker 1: general ledger. The only name not redacted is Andrew, who
40:53
Speaker 1: is listed next to services on February 11th, 2000, of massage, exercise,
40:58
Speaker 1: and yoga at the cost of $ 200. All right, who
41:01
Speaker 1: gave him the massage? Who showed him the yoga? We
41:04
Speaker 1: need to get somebody on record here so we know
41:06
Speaker 1: what's up. And at some point, we're going to need
41:10
Speaker 1: Prince Andrew to speak to the authorities under oath. Now,
41:13
Speaker 1: I know it's never going to happen, because the British
41:16
Speaker 1: are never going to go for it. The UK is
41:19
Speaker 1: just going to thumb their nose and go and arrest
41:21
Speaker 1: people for mean tweets instead. But there is no doubt
41:24
Speaker 1: in my mind that Prince Andrew is more than just
41:27
Speaker 1: a material witness here. Certainly a person of interest. But unfortunately,
41:32
Speaker 1: what my opinion is and what happens are two different things,
41:36
Speaker 1: because they're going to do what they've always done, and
41:38
Speaker 1: that's just ignore it. A number of Epstein victims have
41:44
Speaker 1: testified in civil and criminal proceedings that they were paid
41:48
Speaker 1: $ 200 per massage session for giving Epstein massages at his
41:51
Speaker 1: homes in Palm Beach, New York, New Mexico, and his
41:54
Speaker 1: private island. Like I've been telling you, this isn't just
41:58
Speaker 1: an operation where Epstein was, you know, running some kind
42:01
Speaker 1: of cat house. This was targeted. When people were being
42:06
Speaker 1: so-called provided with girls and services, it was targeted because
42:10
Speaker 1: Epstein wanted something from those people, whatever it might be.
42:13
Speaker 1: And even if Epstein didn't come out and threaten them directly,
42:18
Speaker 1: they knew that that was hanging over their heads. Look
42:20
Speaker 1: at what Sarah Ferguson's reaction was when Epstein called her.
42:24
Speaker 1: The name Andrew appears again in the flight logs on
42:27
Speaker 1: May 16th, 2002, four days after being flown to Palm
42:31
Speaker 1: Beach on board Epstein's personal plane. The jet game, the
42:35
Speaker 1: nickname Lolita Express, for how many young women and girls
42:39
Speaker 1: were recorded flying around. And look at all the people
42:43
Speaker 1: that were on that plane. All the people of note
42:45
Speaker 1: in our country. All the people that, you know, are
42:49
Speaker 1: movers and shakers. How many of them had connections to Epstein?
42:52
Speaker 1: How many of them sat their asses right in that
42:54
Speaker 1: plane where all of this abuse was occurring? Well, the
42:58
Speaker 1: answer is a whole hell of a lot of them.
43:01
Speaker 1: And if you're wondering why those files are being covered up,
43:04
Speaker 1: If you're wondering why they don't want us to know,
43:06
Speaker 1: you're getting a little glimpse right here. The other passengers
43:10
Speaker 1: were Epstein, Glenn Maxwell, Epstein's confidant, Adam Perry Lang, Epstein's
43:15
Speaker 1: private chef, bodyguard, and one male. And let's talk about
43:19
Speaker 1: Adam Perry Lang for a minute. You mean Jimmy Kimmel's BFF?
43:22
Speaker 1: Maybe somebody should ask Jimmy Kimmel about Adam Perry Lang
43:26
Speaker 1: and what his boy knows. Because we already know that
43:29
Speaker 1: Adam Perry Lang was deep in it. And we already
43:31
Speaker 1: know that there's been people who have said that Adam
43:34
Speaker 1: Perry Lang was around while they were being abused. Now,
43:37
Speaker 1: to Adam Perry Lang's credit, it was reported that he
43:40
Speaker 1: was cooperating with the investigation at the time, so I
43:43
Speaker 1: will give him that credit. There's a lot of people
43:46
Speaker 1: that didn't even do that, so credit given where credit's due.
43:51
Speaker 1: According to a more comprehensive flight log released as part
43:54
Speaker 1: of a civil proceeding in the U.S., the Duke was
43:57
Speaker 1: on board Epstein's jet that flew to the U.S. Virgin
43:59
Speaker 1: Islands in 1999. as well as September 2006, when he
44:04
Speaker 1: flew from Luton Airport to Edinburgh, accompanied by Maxwell. Andrew
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Speaker 1: has always denied any wrongdoing. I mean, that's a fair statement,
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Speaker 1: and it's true. But if you're innocent, are you paying
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Speaker 1: out the kind of bag that Prince Andrew was paying out?
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Speaker 1: I know I'm not. Sarah Guerrero, the Oversight Committee spokeswoman, said,
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Speaker 1: It should be clear to every American that Jeffrey Epstein
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Speaker 1: was friends with some of the most powerful and wealthiest
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Speaker 1: men in the world. Every new document produced provides new
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Speaker 1: information we work to bring justice for their survivors and victims.
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Speaker 1: Oversight Democrats will not stop until we identify everyone complicit
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Speaker 1: in Epstein's and his crimes. It's past time for Attorney
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Speaker 1: General Pam Bondi to release the files now. Well, I
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Speaker 1: agree with that, but come on. I hate to break
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Speaker 1: the news to these people, but they're not the heroes
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Speaker 1: in this story either. And I've explained why numerous times.
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Speaker 1: And tomorrow, I'm going to have a few episodes explaining
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Speaker 1: why again. Because this whole entire rush to become the
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Speaker 1: hero here is crazy. Let me be very, very clear.
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Speaker 1: The only heroes in this whole entire story, in my opinion,
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Speaker 1: are the survivors themselves. They're the ones who blew the
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Speaker 1: doors off this. They're the ones who forced this into
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Speaker 1: the open. They're the ones who made people pay attention.
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Speaker 1: And I was around when it was happening in real time.
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Speaker 1: So they're not going to try and convince me now,
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Speaker 1: with a bunch of gaslighting, that they cared then because
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Speaker 1: they didn't. And I reached out to a bunch of
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Speaker 1: these people at the time. Nobody wanted to hear it.
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Speaker 1: None of the congressmen, no senators, especially any of the
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Speaker 1: people on the left. It was a big conspiracy theory.
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Speaker 1: And a lot of that's attributed to the fact that
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Speaker 1: there was a lot of garbage going on at the time,
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Speaker 1: there's no doubt. But they lumped everything together. And in
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Speaker 1: doing so, they did a big disservice to people on
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Speaker 1: the left who were left to believe that all of
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Speaker 1: this was a bunch of BS. And now folks are
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Speaker 1: blown the hell away. when they realize just how deep
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Speaker 1: this goes and just how corrupt it all is. Prince
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Speaker 1: Andrew is listed as a passenger on Epstein's aircraft with
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Speaker 1: financial disclosures providing possible evidence of payments from Epstein to
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Speaker 1: masseuses on behalf of an individual identified as Andrew. Extensive
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Speaker 1: redactions have been made to protect victims as committee investigators
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Speaker 1: continue to analyze the new documents. And we know that
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Speaker 1: Virginia was allegedly paid $ 15, 000 by Jeffrey Epstein. for her
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Speaker 1: time with Prince Andrew. All part of the story, right?
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Speaker 1: All part of the baked-in cover. So later on down
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Speaker 1: the road, they can say, look, nobody got abused. They
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Speaker 1: were getting paid. And then, of course, Muppets will echo
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Speaker 1: that and then say, oh, yeah, look, these are just hookers.
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Speaker 1: They don't deserve any love or respect. I mean, come on.
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Speaker 1: Abuse is abuse, bro. Point blank, period. But what we're
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Speaker 1: talking about here, it goes way beyond the pale. But
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Speaker 1: framing it as transactional, that gives them the cover that
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Speaker 1: they want. So that's why I'm always pointing out that
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Speaker 1: this was not transactional, at least not in a traditional sense.
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Speaker 1: Pressure has been growing on the committee to subpoena Andrew
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Speaker 1: to testify as to his involvement with Epstein, as have
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Speaker 1: a number of high-profile figures including Bill Barr, the former
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Speaker 1: Attorney General, and Bill Clinton, the former President, and his wife, Hillary.
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Speaker 1: As a British citizen, Andrew cannot be compelled to attend
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Speaker 1: any such hearing. The Duke has been dogged by his
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Speaker 1: association with Epstein, which continued long after Epstein was convicted
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Speaker 1: of sex offenses in Florida in 2008. This week, charities
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Speaker 1: dropped Sarah Ferguson, Andrew's ex-wife, and Duchess of York as
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Speaker 1: a patron or ambassador after an email from 2011 revealed
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Speaker 1: that she called Epstein her supreme friend and seemed to
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Speaker 1: apologize for her public criticism of him. And why do
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Speaker 1: you think she apologized? Well, because like I said, Epstein
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Speaker 1: had something hanging over their head. And that, of course,
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Speaker 1: is Prince Andrew's degenerate-ass behavior. Is it making sense to
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Speaker 1: you yet? The documents also invoice Epstein's daily schedule, which
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Speaker 1: showed meetings with Steve Bannon, an ally of President Trump,
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Speaker 1: the tech billionaire Peter Thiel, and a potential visit to
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Speaker 1: Epstein's U.S. Virgin Island for Elon Musk. Musk is listed
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Speaker 1: in the documents as being a potential visitor to Epstein's island,
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Speaker 1: Little St. James, on December 6, 2014. six years after
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Speaker 1: Epstein became listed as a sex offender. Well, that all
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Speaker 1: tracks too. We know that Epstein and Elon Musk were cavorting.
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Speaker 1: We saw it at the billionaire's dinner and previously. Now,
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Speaker 1: does that mean they were great friends or that Elon's
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Speaker 1: guilty of anything? I haven't seen that, but I think
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Speaker 1: he'd be doing himself a favor if he explained what
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Speaker 1: his relationship was with Jeffrey Epstein and did it in
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Speaker 1: an honest manner. His name appears on what appears to
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Speaker 1: be Epstein's daily schedule, with the entry saying, reminder, Elon
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Speaker 1: Musk to island December 6th. Still happening, with a question mark.
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Speaker 1: Musk has acknowledged meeting Epstein once briefly in Manhattan, and
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Speaker 1: has said that he declined invitations to visit Epstein's island.
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Speaker 1: So look, this is a breaking story right now, and
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Speaker 1: we don't have all the details yet, and I haven't
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Speaker 1: looked at the documents, but that's where we are. And
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Speaker 1: as far as Prince Andrew goes, he's cooked. There is
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Speaker 1: no coming back from this, so the question now becomes
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Speaker 1: what's up with the $ 200 massages who were giving these
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Speaker 1: quote-unquote massages and the million-dollar question? What does that mean
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Speaker 1: for Prince Andrew and the investigation moving forward? All of
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