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Presidential Spirits: The Role of Whiskey in American Political History · The Scotchy Bourbon Boys

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  Speaker 1: We need to have fun and I know we need to have fun yeah, all right, welcome back to another podcast of the Scotchy Bourbon Boys Tiny here tonight.
• 3:12
  Speaker 1: I am here on the night of our election here, our presidential election.
• 3:19
  Speaker 1: It's going, all the results it's still going out on the, it's still being calculated and people are voting on the West Coast and people are finishing up voting on the East Coast and we are getting ready.
• 3:31
  Speaker 1: Because I wanted to podcast tonight, because I just 100% felt like I just didn't feel like watching election results or anything like that, watching election results or anything like that.
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: I thought, sitting back, relaxing, drinking some whiskey with my friends out there, some whiskeys and bourbons and whatnot, and going about that.
• 3:49
  Speaker 1: I think that's really kind of cool.
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  Speaker 1: And also, the subject tonight that we'll get to is on our presidents of the past and we picked out the whiskey drinking presidents of the past and we picked out the whiskey-drinking presidents of the past and some of the stories that went along with this and there's quite a few.
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: Now, when I was doing this, there's a lot of different presidents.
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: But one of the other drinks of choice was the wine, which is I you know I someone can help me but I believe it was called maderna, something like that.
• 4:35
  Speaker 1: I it's like I'm having a problem remembering for some reason.
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: I wish I wasn't, but they drank a lot of that fortified wine back then.
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: Some of them really drank a lot of it.
• 4:50
  Speaker 1: But then they also were drinking whiskey.
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  Speaker 1: Initially it was rye whiskey, which then turned to bourbon as we got further along.
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: But we're talking about George Washington kicked us off.
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  Speaker 1: He ran a distillery, the Mount Vernon Distillery, that still runs today.
• 5:09
  Speaker 1: Steve Beshear is the master distiller there.
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  Speaker 1: Madeira oh, walker, you're there.
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: You saved me.
• 5:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's Madeira, thank you, and it basically between Madeira and whiskey, but the stories that you hear about this are crazy, so we're going to get into that in a second.
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• 7:22
  Speaker 1: And then so there we are, got that all out of the way, and tonight I'm going to.
• 7:31
  Speaker 1: While we're talking about this, I'm going to go over first, and the first one I want to go over with is the Liberty Pole Spirits.
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, and Liberty Pole Spirits and this one right here is their peated bourbon whiskey, and this has been.
• 7:48
  Speaker 1: I picked that up and they have it.
• 7:50
  Speaker 1: It's a peated, a Pennsylvania straight bourbon whiskey, peated bourbon whiskey.
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  Speaker 1: It is 92 proof and on the back, mingo Creek Society members placed liberty poles along roads and in-town centers and would hang Alexander Hamilton's portrait upside down in protest of the 1791 federal excise tax on whiskey.
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  Speaker 1: Today we continue this rebellious spirit through our boldly authentic Pennsylvania whiskey.
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  Speaker 1: Our whiskey is open, fermented, pot distilled and a low entry proof in charred oak barrels and bottled unfiltered, just as those rebellious farmers would have preferred.
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So this one here is a peated bourbon.
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: I'll give you a really quick.
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  Speaker 1: I was able to go down and visit them in Pennsylvania.
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: They're about two hours away from my house.
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: I have to get back there real soon, but the trip was great.
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: Last year we had a great time.
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: I think it was about this time of the year, I think it was.
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  Speaker 1: I think I was watching a Packer game with them and the Packers lost to the Pittsburgh Steelers and they were in Pennsylvania.
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: So it just was good for Jim and let's just make sure Jim and Ellen.
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: So it's Jim and Ellen Hughes and their sons, rob and Kevin, who run it.
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: They started in 2016.
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  Speaker 1: Robin, kevin, who run it.
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: They started in 2016.
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: Jim convinced Ellen that opening a craft distillery just might be a fun retirement activity and a promising career path.
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  Speaker 1: They decided they didn't want.
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: So the boys decided they didn't want their parents to have all the fun and join the family business and going down there.
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  Speaker 1: They really know what they're doing.
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: They just had built a new rickhouse.
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: We were in there, we did some thieving from the barrels and then we went up and did a podcast.
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: You can check that podcast out.
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's almost pretty close to a year right now.
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: Loved the podcast, had a fun time doing it, but tonight I'm going to be drinking, in honor of the election, this Liberty Pool spirit because one we all know, if you're paying any attention what happens in Pennsylvania tonight and as in sometimes, but it can be very beneficial to one candidate or the other.
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to be drinking this peated while we go over a couple of the presidents.
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: Uh, the smell on it after being opened.
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: I opened that pretty quick after, so it's been open.
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: So any, any whiskey that's three quarters of a bottle or a half bottle that sits for in the bottle for a year we all know um can pick up some really nice flavors.
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know what this peated is going to do, but I will tell you in a sec.
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: So the nose on it.
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: I like this, this bourbon, because there's a fruitiness to it.
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: There's a char and a little bit of the peat and, like any scotch, in my opinion, if it sits in the bottle, it does pick up smokiness after from the first time you open the crack, because I think the oxidation mixes is a pretty nice you'd have to like like scotch, but I would love this with the cigar.
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: I was able to smoke a cigar with ellen when we were down there.
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: Um, she gave me some tips.
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: It was a really good and, uh, who knows, tonight I might be smoking a cigar if all things go the right way.
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: I know super nash is already smoking a cigar, but you can't smoke cigars on the podcast because the youtube frowns upon that.
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: But they'll let you do the other stuff that we do, so I'm happy about that.
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: So we're going to get into, while I'm doing this, um, the first president of the united states.
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: So this just tells you our history.
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  Speaker 1: He was president from 1789 to 17, actually, 1789 to 1797.
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  Speaker 1: George washington.
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: He ran a distillery uh, it's called the mount vernon, uh, in, uh, virginia, right outside of washington dc.
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: But mount vernon I I was very I'm going to be going there soon steve ashore, right outside of Washington DC, but Mount Vernon, I'm going to be going there soon.
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: Steeper Shore is the current.
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  Speaker 1: It still runs, it's been brought back and they make whiskey.
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: Very similar to the same way they made whiskey way, way back when.
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  Speaker 1: And they're making rise right now, and that's what George Washington did when.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: And they're making rise right now and that's what george washington did in his final year.
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  Speaker 1: George washington used his slaves to produce the whiskey.
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  Speaker 1: But in the final year on of his life, mount vernon was going full strength and produced 11 000 gallons of unaged rye whiskey that year.
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: So that tells you the kind of production that he was producing.
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  Speaker 1: Now George Washington also instilled the whiskey tax to pay for the Revolutionary War not the Revolution, yeah, the Revolutionary War against Britain.
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  Speaker 1: And he did it with lots of kickback.
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  Speaker 1: But he had to pay the tax on his whiskey too.
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  Speaker 1: But the reason why there was so much kickback is because a lot of times the farmers would take their corn and their rye that was excess and they would distill it and then they would trade it for goods.
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: They didn't trade it for money and they were being they were being taxed on the size of their still running the most they could run.
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  Speaker 1: So they're like well, I've got a still but I don't run it full time or run.
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  Speaker 1: So they're like well, I've got a still but I don't run it full time.
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  Speaker 1: Or I got a still but I trade for my and I barter for my goods, and how am I supposed to pay this tax?
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  Speaker 1: So that was a problem.
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  Speaker 1: I believe when Andrew Jackson came in, one of the first things that he did was eliminate the whiskey tax because I want to say it wasn't andrew jackson, it was, um, our second president.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: I get myself in trouble here.
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  Speaker 1: But he reinitiated, he took the tax off because it was almost impossible to enforce, even though there was the risky rebellion in pennsylvania and all but the problem was it was impossible to enforce, he didn't, and the the war was paid for, so they didn't need it.
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  Speaker 1: Every war, the war of 1812, reinitiated it, paid it off.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: The civil war initiated, paid it.
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  Speaker 1: So whiskey played a huge part.
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  Speaker 1: So the next, my next meats me notes here.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see, do I have anything else?
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: okay so also one of the things I even though he made his own rye whiskey, one of, uh, washington's favorite things that he drank was laird's apple jacky, so that was kind of cool.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: And there's the okay 1787.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay, so one of the Constitution and to 17,000 people, nope that was China.
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  Speaker 1: So that was one of the cool things I thought that they got together and had a.
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  Speaker 1: You know, george Washington got together with his army buddies and celebrated this constitution, and that was one of the more drunken aspects of that.
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  Speaker 1: Washington liked to engage in drinking whiskey and apple jack brandy, so that was kind of cool.
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  Speaker 1: Then the next one was let's see john adams.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: That was one thing.
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  Speaker 1: He was a guy that likes cider, but one of the cool things about john adams is that he basically 17,000.
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  Speaker 1: He ordered 1,700.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, I believe he was it him.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just trying to see Red wine.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Oh no, that wasn't him.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: All right, the Constitution to the tune of oh, that's what it was.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: All right, here we go.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: It's crappy notes.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry folks, but the bill at the celebration with his buddies would have initiated that.
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  Speaker 1: All of them of today's time, of today's time.
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  Speaker 1: It would have been a $17,000 bar bill on the night that Washington was signed the Constitution, the United States Constitution, which is kind of cool.
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  Speaker 1: Then the next one is Andrew Jackson, and Andrew Jackson was president between 1829 and 1837.
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  Speaker 1: Now he owned a distillery beforehand, at the turn of the century, so in the early 1800s before, and he drank.
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  Speaker 1: That's what he did.
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  Speaker 1: He liked to drink what he made and he also owned a tavern that he sold.
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  Speaker 1: So that was Andrew Jackson.
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  Speaker 1: But one of the cool stories about him is he was wild and loved whiskey.
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  Speaker 1: But at his inauguration he opened the doors of the White House and had bowls of whiskey punch for everyone to come in and drink and at one point everybody became inebriated and intoxicated and they wrecked the White House.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: They trashed it.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: It was actually, and wrecked the place is what was the quote from the book.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: So that was kind of cool at his inauguration.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Now, after that he was known for whiskey, but you know he was one of the more wild, wild presidents when it came to that.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Now, the next one was preferred whiskey and drink.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Ok, so that was Madison.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Let's see.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: So James Madison preferred whiskey and he drank a pint a day.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: He went from 1809 to 1817.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: It was often drank because the water.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: The reason why he was drinking a pint or two a day was that the water supply was so in uh, painted and clean water was scarce.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: So a lot, a lot of people during 1809 to 1817, when he was, were drinking, um, they were drinking whiskey instead of water so that they could stay healthy.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Now, monroe, he had a red wine collection and had a 1,200-bottle scandal where he was charging the United States to buy 1,200 bottles of French red wine instead of the furniture that he was supposed to buy for the White House.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: So that in itself was kind of cool.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Now let's see where we are if we've gotten through.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Let's see Martin Van Buren.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: All right, so Andrew Jackson, and then there's Martin Van Buren.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: And Martin Van Buren became Andrew Jackson's second term, um, second term vice president and his first vice president.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: He didn't get along with them, so they people think.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: And he was known, for he was a smaller person and he had nicknames like the Fox or Blue Whiskey Van.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: He was known for partying with Jackson and some people say that he got the nomination as vice president and he was from Tennessee and he basically, if I'm not mistaken, he was a Democrat from Tennessee, a Democrat governor, and he had him there because of no, that's earlier, no, he just brought him on because it was friends and he wanted somebody to drink with.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: That's what that one came down to for andrew jackson.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: That's all right, let's just keep following.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I want to just make sure.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: William grant, william harding, franklin pierce, sack taylor, oh okay, yeah, martin van der right, and he was the president from 37 to 41 after andrew jackson was.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: So that's kind of he loved whiskey and he was known for that.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Now, two bottles of cognac.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Now we're talking about Zach Taylor, and he really drank a lot and he was known for that.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: He could drink two bottles of cognac and wash it down with whiskey and it was like he wasn't drunk and they think that he.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Basically, I want to say this is probably, yeah, this is actually, I want to make sure Harrison Tyler, zachary Tyler, two bottles of Madeira whiskey.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Now James ordered 10 gallons of old rec from Jacob's bar.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so James Buchanan was after, um, zach Tyler and it was Zachary Tyler.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: From 47 to 49 to 50, that would drink a lot.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: And now I'm pretty sure that they claimed no, no, no, okay, so let's just make sure Buchanan was yeah.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: So Tyler was only president for from 49 to 50, for two years, and at that point he was point his overall drunkenness.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Everything led to his demise.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: And then, as we keep going, keep following the whiskey trail, there you go.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Supposedly Madison was supposed to be yeah, yeah, he was.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Madison was supposed to be 5'4".
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: That's why they called him the Fox and the Wichita.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: So so I'm just trying to keep through the order.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm following.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: you know, there's, there's, just as we keep going, um the order it was james buchanan and he had a friend that had a name um jacob, and he had the same initials, jb.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: So he ordered 10 gallons of old monoglallan.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: It's like I tried to read this before, but it's M-O-N-O-N-G-A-L-P-L-A.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: That was the whiskey that he was ordering.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: It was a rye and he would order that once a week.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: So that was how Buchanan was using it for water and other people, but he liked to do the order because the guy's initials was JB.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Now Buchanan was leading up to the Civil War and one of the things about that was because of Buchanan and his drinking and everything he got blamed for botching or sabotaging, avoiding the Civil War.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: He did a lot of things that caused and led to the Civil War.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Now Andrew Johnson is the next president.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Now what happened was the Civil War happens and there's, everybody knows, abe Lincoln was the the president and when abe lincoln was a president he had a vice president.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: That in his second term he let go and he appointed andrew johnson.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: He won the election and this is this crazy, this, this story.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Andrew johnson loved whiskey.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: So on the eve of the inauguration which would would have been sometime in November, not like January 20th, it is now, but on the eve of the inauguration Andrew Johnson got piss ass drunk and he woke up the next morning hungover and at the inauguration he had to swear in the senators and had to deliver a speech before he did it.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: But when he woke up he was so hungover and so feeling terrible.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: He drank three full rocks glasses of whiskey, which then made him inebriated again.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: And when he got up in front of everybody he was stumbling and slurring His words, gave a rant, a rant of epic proportions supposedly, about how he was just a little kid that wasn't able and whatever, and he said some poor things about people.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: But when it came time to swear in the senators he couldn't even stand.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Someone else had to go in.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: So they called for Andrew Johnson's resignation, but he didn't.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: But he didn't.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Uh, the words that um abraham lincoln used was I talked to him and I don't think he'll ever do something like that again.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: So andrew johnson then became president on november 22nd, after abe lincoln was shot and killed in the assassination.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: He basically served Lincoln's pretty much full four years and then went up against Ulysses S Grant and although Andrew Johnson had, he was credited for kind of you know, lincoln had freed the slaves, and we're talking about all the things that had to be done to help them, the black people, get acquainted with society and get into working class and that type of thing, and supposedly Andrew Johnson didn't hold up that end of the bargain like he should have.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: And there's a lot of things and bills and laws that were put in effect that affected how somebody who was being freed from being a slave, how they were able to acquire land and all that, and so he was blamed for that.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: But when Ulysses S Grant now Grant was a general in the Civil War, that really pretty much kicked ass for Lincoln and at one point.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Lincoln the way Grant was going he wanted.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Abe Lincoln supposedly asked what type of whiskey barrels are we sending, ulysses?
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Because whatever we're sending, I want to find out so I can send it to everybody else because they're all doing really good out, so I can send it to everybody else because they're all doing really good.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: And Old Crow at the time was supposedly the whiskey or the bourbon that they all you know you're talking about 1860s that that bourbon was the bourbon that Ulysses Grant wanted.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Now there's a thing about Grant.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: He wasn't a big drinker once he was president.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: He beat Andrew Johnson based off the fact that Johnson's drunkenness initially at the inauguration made him a drunken fool and he was invalid with all the way that he governed.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: So Grant won the presidency.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Now he wasn't a big drinker now, but he had issues with depression.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: He drank then while he was a general.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: He had issues with missing his family, being away from his family.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: He was.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: But then, when he became president, what happened to him and it's just the most bizarre story is that he was at an event on the weekend and there was fresh fruit there and he was eating.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: He ate a lot of fresh fruit, including cherries.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Now they think, oh my God.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: So he basically ended up with a really, really bad case of problem in his digestion and they couldn't get it under control.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Digestion.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: And they couldn't get it under control.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: After four or five days they called in the doctors and they were giving him cocaine, lithium mixed with whiskey to try and fix what ails him.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: And after two or three days of that he actually said I feel like that I might not make it.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I feel like that I might not make it.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: That's, this is, you know, I feel like it's killing me.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: And he passed away the next day.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Now he was the president From 65 to 69.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: So that was near the end of his tenure, but he and he basically, you know, just with the whiskey and the things and whatever.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: But it turned out that it wasn't so much the digestion started but it was based off of the poor water supply and he died of typhoid fever.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: That's what he died for, a Native American name and it's also reflected through a river, probably Managavala.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, thank you for the type of whiskey that he was getting.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: That's Walker again.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: So the cool thing, you know the cool thing.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Another thing, another story about whiskey, now as we start to get closer to the modern day.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: So I have.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Let's see, I did be canerson, I believe, william mckinley.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: So william mckinley was eventually shot and and passed away, but he liked rye and Dewar scotch.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: He was known for ordering Dewar scotch.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Then, let's see, that was from McKinley was 99 to 01.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: He had been shot and then I believe at the time Teddy Roosevelt was his vice president and then Teddy I think that's how that went and then Woodrow Wilson took over, was the next president that liked whiskey, but he was a scotch and soda guy.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Now, do I have anything on FDR?
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I don't believe I do, but I'll see I might have brought.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's see Layered Nope, that's the original Buchanan Van Buren.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Here we go.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: That was the end.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Truman, that was Truman.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that one's a good one.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: That was um Whitehouse.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Ulysses S Grant Old Crow, william Harrison, dc.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: William Harrison.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: DC.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, boozy, yeah, okay, there we go.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Mckinley, fdr, dwight, so.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, so I don't know about FDR, but FDR was a whiskey drinker but then there was Dwight D Eisenhower and he was a scotch guy, shavaz Regal, and he also liked Dimple scotch, which I've never heard of.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Then Lyndon B Johnson was also a scotch guy, but what he liked to do, he liked to have scotch and soda, but when he would have dignitaries there, he would have his staff make his scotch and soda, but when he would have dignitaries there, he would have his staff make his scotch and soda less, less scotch and more soda, so that he would keep his wits about him.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: That's a fact about LBJ, right there, let's see.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: All right, so let's get into the next one, the representative.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Now that we've gone into this, we've got some other people hey, steven on YouTube and Super King Anthony Good to see that Got to like that Liberty Pole have to get down there again.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: It's not too far away.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: So let's wash this one out, because anytime you have something smoky, you really got to put some water in the glass.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: It will affect.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: So now the representative All right, I'm going to read you a little something tonight.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so Warren J, I will get into that.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Mr.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to read you a little something tonight.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, ok, so Warren J, I will get into that.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Mr Super Nash, I have that the teacher in me is impressed with your notes.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Ok, I don't know if I'm impressed with my notes, but so right now we did the Liberty poll, but right now, before we get into Warren G Harding and the some of the newer ones that that I have on, that's very nice of you, super nash.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: All right, so david schmeer.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Dave schmeer is the man who runs uh proof in wood.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: He has come from and run a lot, been in the industry for a long time, starting in 2000, I believe 2001,.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: He's done a lot and then sold brands to corporations.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: But right now he likes to make whiskey and he said Schmier is best known for his multiple award-winning whiskeys, most recently the representative small batch bourbon, which took home world's best bourbon at the World Whiskey Awards, and Tumbling Dice Single Barrel Bourbon, which took home world's best single barrel bourbon.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Both are non-Kentucky bottlings, challenging the notion that the best bourbon has to come from Bluegrass State.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: We use materials that I guess are readily available, but we try to put some care into how we blend them, how we bottle it and how we present it.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Schmier explains my favorite one was two years ago.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: We also won the best single barrel bourbon and it was also the best non-Kentucky.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: That happened to be a four-year-old bottle, so it's not a nod to the fact that age is not everything.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: And the other thing that really cool about winning best non-kentucky single barrel bourbon is we actually sold that barrel in kentucky.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Smear has been forcing, has been forecasting into the future for decades now, and while other independent bottlers and non-distilling producers are running into difficulty sourcing whiskeys, he's sitting on a supply that should sustain his company growth for years to come rye from california, malt whiskey from Colorado and bourbon from Kentucky, tennessee and Ohio, to name a few.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: He concludes on the one hand, I've been extolling the virtues of that distillery in Indiana since 2001, and obviously enjoyed a lot of success using their liquid, but on the other hand, there's a kind of element of surprise and fun.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: That's what comes next when I have to start planning.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: So, dave, we've been with him many times.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: When you're in his presence, you know that he is well educated in the spirits industry.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Plus, his knowledge of what good whiskey should be is really good.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: And uh, it's, it's obvious.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: He knows almost everything about it.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: He loves to share what he's done with you and I've got the representative right here.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Let me see if I can actually read.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: This is about as small of type as it gets.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: This is aged a minimum of two congressional terms.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Obviously, that would be four years Straight bourbon whiskey distilled in Indiana, aged a minimum of four, it says, and charred oak barrels bottled by by proof and wood ventures in stanford, kentucky.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: This is barrel proof 113.54, 56.77 and it is straight bourbon whiskey, single barrel, a representative, and I love it.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: He also has the senator, which is a rye, and it's good too.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: But tonight I'm going to put this in there and finish talking about the president's.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Uh, shout out to dave schmeer and uh, really enjoy knowing him and seeing him at different events.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: He is a guy who is passionate and very knowledgeable about whiskey, there's no doubt, and has done a lot in the industry, all right, and he's also been on our podcast before.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: So here we go.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Let's see Nice, nice Now.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: This is a barrel proof.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: It's pretty good.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, the legs on this are long, the is thick.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: It's not as sweet as most Indiana whiskeys.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: So cheers to Dave Schmier and the representative and let's keep going as we go Now.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Super Nash, you are right, abrams says.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Grant developed a historic reputation as a drunk during the Civil War.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, he was drinking Old Crow there, there's no doubt about it, because he was depressed.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: He suffered from depression from being away from his family, his wife and children for so long.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: That's what the story is.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: He had.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: It was sad when I read it.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: I was very sad about it.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: So, um, that was, that was something.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: And then, um, let's see where else John Rich hey, john, good to see you.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Um, let's see Warren G Harding.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was the prohibition president.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Uh, he is depicted in actually, the the series boardwalk empire.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Uh, he actually, um, his wife was, uh, did not like drinking or participating in drinking.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: She was very, uh, what would you say?
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Uh, prudish and she didn't think that there should be at the parties any alcohol.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: But he had a sidebar at the White House during Prohibition, fully stocked, and he would have all of his buddies over all the time and they would drink at the sidebar.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: He was well known for loving bourbon and other things, although he voted for Pro prohibition and he did because of his wife.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: He, right, yes, and smoked.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I already.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Yes, I have that one.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: And then he also was known for he initially had a mistress that was pregnant during the election, that had the child and had to be kept quiet, but then, while he was president, had another mistress who had a child.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: So he was a very, very wild man running the country, running the country and during Prohibition his attorney general was very well.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: So in other words, I read the book about Remus and Remus, because of Harding's ability and love of whiskey, was able to work out deals so that while he was extracting all the whiskey from Kentucky and shipping it up to Chicago and New York that the attorney general was having the feds look the other way the whole time.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: But where Remus really got a bad rap was when Harding passed away in his third year of a heart attack.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: That is when the crap really hit the fan.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: So after he was there Now I'm pretty sure Andrew Johnson.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, Lincoln.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: There's one here.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: He okay scotch soda and I believe he liked Harding was also on his sidebar liked scotch and soda and one of his favorite was Cutty Sark, so that was kind of cool when I was writing that one.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Now Truman sark, so that was kind of cool when I was writing that.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: One.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Um, now truman.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: So we're at harding during during the.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: So we're up to william j harding, yep.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: And then frank from del delanor roosevelt did like whiskey he was known for but he didn't do a lot.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: But I know that Truman was fond of bourbon and he liked um, he be.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: He began each day and he was the president from 45 to 53.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: And he, um began each day with a shot of bourbon, which was either well, when you know it's 45 to 53, it would have been old granddad bourbon, which is really kind of cool.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: When I first started I wanted to know what they were drinking as far as brands.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: But then he also in the end was drinking wild turkey.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: So that would have been turkey right at the start of being wild turkey.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: So that is kind of cool for that now when we get into we already did, I believe dwight d eisenhower, and then we are on lbj LBJ and Franklin B Ulysses.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Grant have passed the pure.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: So Ulysses Grant also wasn't a big drinker when he was in the White House but he passed the Pure Food and Drug Act.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: So there was a lot of cool things about what these presidents do did and how and what they liked and what they were doing.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I was famous for politicizing before he became president and as a speaker of the house he would research and find out what every member of Congress drank.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: He would make sure to have poured or mixed the favorite of whoever he was trying to influence when he was in Congress.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: And that's yeah, I could see that.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: And then also so it was very much that old boys network always happening and that certain scotches or bourbons that you could get that other people couldn't.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: It was impressive, you know.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: And just for instance, JFK, he actually was a mixed drink drinker.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: He liked mixed drinks.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: So you're talking about JFK would have been at the time of frank sinatra, sammy davis jr, when they were doing the vegas thing.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Um, they always had a drink in their hands.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: You're probably talking about jack and coke.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: You're probably talking about old fashions.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: That's probably what they were taking, but also that is the same time that the martini and the sidecar, with scotch, you know.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: So there's a lot of stuff that they could have been drinking, but if you're drinking different drinks you probably weren't just sticking.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, scotch and soda is one thing, but as you know what it goes, ulysses s grant martin, let's see.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the teacher yep all right.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: So you know, those are really kind of like great stories, but what it comes down to is when you read about the history and tonight's this, the election, you read about a lot of things that happened in our country and a lot of incidents and what, what, what, what presidents were doing?
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: I mean during Prohibition, harding was two times a week having poker night, drinking bourbon in the White House, you know.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: So how much does a president?
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: You know you look at different presidents and certain ones have to govern and lead, but then in other times of fruitfulness they don't have to quite as much.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: But what you do get is that there's always scandal or something presidents trying to arrange or play politics or whatever.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: I mean a lot of times they're switching out their, you know, vice presidents.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: I mean initially, the vice president to the winner of the election was the loser from the other party.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: I mean people talk about well, it shouldn't be a two party thing.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Just think about that back then, when the two parties had to be president and vice president.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: That changed really quick.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: It changed really quick.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: There was duels.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about Alexander Hamilton.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: He was, I believe, dueled the vice president of the United States and shot and killed by him, and then the vice president didn't get charged for murder.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just the craziest of times.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Things have been better, they've been worse, they've been you know, but it really comes down to the one glue in this country is whiskey.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Everybody, I mean honestly, when you think about it, it's the glue.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: So, um, we've done this.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: I think I've talked for long enough, right?
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: We're, yeah, a little bit past where I want to be.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: We've got a big night for us here, uh across, uh, anywhere anybody listening.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: We greatly appreciate what you do.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Um, it's good to see martin, it's good to see john, it's good to see walker.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate you guys chiming in Walker, as always, making me say, pronounce Madeira properly, I mean, but that kind of wine, which was fortified wine, was very, very, very popular amongst the presidents and it wasn't very unpopular to drink because of the fact that clean water was a source of dying.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you were drinking the water you could get a waterborne illness, like they thought.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Ulysses grant eventually died from the cherries.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: They thought it was the cherries, but when they looked at it it was due to insufficient water supply, which caused him to have gastric problems that eventually took him out.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: So, um, it's really kind of cool.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: I love history and I'm going to be doing a little bit more into this as we go along, but you know, tonight I just wanted to get a quick uh quick podcast in and uh we're gonna see you on thursday.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: All we are going to be doing the Booker's Master Distillers batch.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Looking forward to that, can't wait to open up that and I will say that we greatly appreciated everybody coming.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: I look forward to Thursday See what that Booker's is and then the fourth one has been released.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Once we obtain that, we are going to rate all four and come up with our bookers of the year before the end of the year.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: So looking forward to that.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: So everybody, thank you for watching on youtube and facebook.
• 52:37
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• 52:44
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• 52:48
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• 52:54
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• 52:55
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• 53:01
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• 53:08
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• 53:13
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• 53:20
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• 53:22
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• 53:24
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• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, show me the way to the next whiskey bar.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, don't ask why.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: Oh don't ask why.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Show me the way to the next whiskey bar.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Oh don't ask why.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Oh don't ask why.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: For if we don't find the next whiskey bar, I tell you we must die.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: I tell you, we must die.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: I tell you, I tell you, I tell you, we must die.