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back to the Simply Christ podcast hosted by Leon Martin,
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along with Aaron Keaton, Melvin Martin, Andrew Schrock and Dan
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Blatz. Let's get right to it.
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Welcome back guys. You guys are watching.
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Thanks for being here and with us again on this Monday night.
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Look forward to keep on going through Colossians Chapter 2
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Good evening, Cameron, pleased to have you on here.
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Melvin, would you open us up with a word of prayer?
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Sure, let's pray. Father, we come to you tonight
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and we thank you for this opportunity to be able to get
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into Your word. And we thank you for Your word.
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And I pray that you anointed us with your Spirit again tonight
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and that we could not speak out of our flesh, but we would only
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bring forth the truth and just stay in context.
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Father, I just pray that people that are listening, that you
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would open their hearts and their minds and their ears and
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eyes to Your Word. And Father, I just pray that you
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would guide us and direct us with Your Spirit and with Your
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wisdom. And Father, I just thank you for
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your many blessing, that thank you for your goodness and Your
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faithfulness to us. Just praise you and we glorify
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you. Thank you most of all for
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redeeming us with the blood of Jesus.
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And I just pray that we can keep our focus on Christ and on
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Christ alone, in Jesus name, Amen.
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Yeah. So I never never mentioned it in
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previous episodes here, but we have our annual, you know,
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family camp that we put on out here in Iowa that was this past
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weekend and really had a good time.
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We've previously been doing it about six weeks later.
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So we were six weeks earlier than we were the last three
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years. And so we had real nice cool
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weather and no mosquitoes. And we had about 160 or 170
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people there at this very remote campground where we where we all
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hang out. So we had a lot of fun.
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It was a good time and I just wanted to to talk a little bit
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about. So we had Aaron Keaton was one
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of the speakers there. He he did two set or three
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sessions I guess and Ben Sargent out of Virginia did the other
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three and why we had a good time.
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I I thought the messages actually meshed really well was
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kind of a continuous flow through the whole thing.
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But one of the things that that really struck me and these these
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messages are all on our YouTube channel.
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And so you can, you can see those if you go to simply Christ
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ministries or simply Christ min dot dot com and and find it
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there, find the links. It was, it was really good.
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And anyway, one of the things that Aaron was talking about I
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found really interesting. I'll read a verse in First
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Corinthians 11 that he read and talked about verse 19 and 1st
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Corinthians, First Corinthians 11/19 says, for there must be
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also heresies among you that they which are approved may be
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made manifest among you. And you know, he was talking
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about the the whole council, like when we read and when we
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when we teach or whatever that word that we shouldn't shy away
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from certain, you know, parts of the Scripture or that we should
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be selective. We should just read it all and
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take it all. And but anyway, tell us, Aaron,
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if you could in a few minutes kind of what you what you were
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talking about in that verse, would you please?
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Yeah, I was telling him that I I actually didn't run across to
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myself. I was listening to podcasts and
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the guy was given definitions of different words in the Bible and
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he ran across this word here. And I don't remember if he said
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this or if I by what he said, it made me look it up, but I
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actually looked that word up. That word heresies in verse 19
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and it's actually, it's actually translated sect five times and
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heresy is only three time and then heresy one time.
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And I got to thinking about it and, and I was interested
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because he, he seems to be, I actually didn't know how to take
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the verse previously because he, he says in verse 18 that first
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of all, when you come together in the church, I hear that there
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be divisions among you. And I partly believe it.
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And then he goes on to say, for there must like it is necessary.
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Like if you look the word must up, it means like it's
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necessary. For there must be also heresies
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among you that like, here's the purpose that they which are
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approved may be made manifest among you.
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So he's actually making the point that this this dividing or
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this splitting off into sex actually shows makes it makes
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the ones that are approved show up, makes them manifest.
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So that's what the word manifest means makes it show up.
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So we that's why I was telling Leon it.
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We always look at a division or when when when something is
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taught. And I'm not saying I wouldn't.
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I was not saying I'm including false doctrine.
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This. I'm just saying when you address
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things that are in the Bible, some people get offended.
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And I made the point in the lesson that if you're offended
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at what the Bible says, you're not offended at the man, you're
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offended at the word of God. And when this division comes
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because of offenses that people have because of this thing or
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that thing, it actually makes known who is approved and who's
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not. And like I said, I just never
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had saw that. I always, I told Leon, I said I
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always assumed the word heresies specifically pointed to a false
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doctrine. But it actually more points to a
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sect of people like this one going this way, believe in this
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thing, this one going this way, believe in another thing.
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And I just found that interesting.
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I thought that was really interesting to run across, but.
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Yeah, you know, and you and you tied it a little bit with where
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Jesus turned around and, you know, talking about eating his
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flesh and and drinking his blood, you know, and it offended
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some, you know, and he turned around and he said, you know,
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are you going to leave now? Like in other words, he didn't
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he didn't cushion the blow of the truth to keep them from
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getting divided. That's right.
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You know, and I mean that just I guess the way we were raised or
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whatever that just doesn't see it seem, you know, like division
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was definitely always of the devil.
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You know, you if you're dividing, there's something
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wrong. But that's actually, and that's
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kind of what struck me with. That Oh yeah, yeah, because I
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even read that in first John there where he says that the
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that people went out from them and and I made the point that
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they were obviously together and then John says they went out
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from us, but they were not of us.
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If they had been of us, then they would have know about
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continued with us. So in that particular instance,
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the people that went out by their going out showed you the
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people that stayed showed you who the ones that was approved
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was and the ones that went out proved that they were not of
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them. That's what John says there.
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That's first John 218 and 19, but yeah.
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Does it stay there at all? What what the thing was that
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they. I mean, at first, John, he says
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he's actually talking about the Antichrist that would deny.
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He just goes on to say that they deny the father and the son.
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But that's that's the context of it is when he says there's many
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Antichrist already. And but but yeah, First
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Corinthians 11, he just, he just said obviously that's in the
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section talking about communion, right?
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I mean that when he the 1st Corinthians 11 starts in 17 down
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through 19, he's beginning to talk about the communion, but.
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I guess I'm still trying to figure out what the difference
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is between heresies or like the like why the word heresy doesn't
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just work like a big because if there's heresies, a lot of times
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when they get exposed, then there is a division, but it's
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still a result of a heresy because you're not one, you're
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not all of them. So something separating it kind
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of shows who's and what can. Yeah.
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Well, I was just making the point if you look, if you look
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it up, it doesn't actually when you look that word up and look
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at the different uses of, it's not actually referring to any
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specific doctrine. It's actually referring to the
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secting off of people like not not necessarily.
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In other words, I would have always read the word to say
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whatever denying that Jesus come in the flesh or denying some
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particular thing, but that's actually not what it that's not
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what it's really referring to. It's actually referring to the
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the the actually one of the definitions reads a body of men
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following their own tenants. Like the sect of the Sadducees,
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the sect of the Pharisees, the sect of the Christians.
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Like it's it's actually a reference to people breaking off
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into sex. But it was.
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But it was still a heresy though.
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Like it's still all inside now. And that, that's where it kind
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of breaks down. You know, if you look at that
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description there, me and my wife were talking about this a
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while because it's just an intriguing idea.
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But you know, sect is a short it'd be of a sub or a sub word
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of section, you know, like it'd be a piece of pieces of and
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where it says there that they using their own.
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What does it say in the description that I don't have it
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in front of me? They when you break using their
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own, in other words, it is actually heresy.
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It's not the word of God anymore.
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You know, they break apart because of their own personal,
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which which is, you know, it is not the word of it.
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So it's still, it's still fluid, it still holds out with with the
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word heresy. We're not replacing the word.
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But it to me, it just, it just fulfills the word.
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It just kind of an iota to me like this breaking apart so that
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you actually see the wolves from the sheep, right.
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Yeah. Yeah, it's not that we're saying
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heresy is not bad. We're just saying it has a
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purpose, right? I mean, that that was really the
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point. It wasn't saying that we're
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lessening the word to something that's not now bad.
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He just says that it must needs be like that there.
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There has to be those things to show who's a manifest and who's
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not. But I thought you were trying to
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say that that the people that were, well, secting off are not
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in error. No, no, no, no, no.
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That's not what we meant. Yeah.
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They were definitely in error. Yeah, you.
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Said there's a purpose. To it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's, let's get into a
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Colossians chapter 18, shall we? So.
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Chapter. 2 chapter 2 verse 18 is what I meant.
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Colossians chapter 2 verse eighteen.
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There we go. So I'm going to read.
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Verse 18 says, Let no man beguile you of your reward in a
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voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding
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into those things which he hath not seen vainly huffed up by his
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fleshly mind. Comma.
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But I'm going to stop there. So he just got done talking
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about how that verse 13 where he says and you being dead in your
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sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh hath he quickened
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together with him having forgiven you all trespasses,
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blotting out the handwriting of ordinances, which was against
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us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way and
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nailing it to the cross. And having spoiled
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principalities and powers. He made a show of them openly
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triumphing over them in it. Like Dan, I believe it was last
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week talking about how there was almost like like him flexing his
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arm and saying no, you know, he he made a point of showing that,
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that he triumphed over them in that.
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And so he is. But if we look at the whole
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thing, we're still he is convincing the people that he's
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writing to to keep their trust in Jesus the Christ.
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That's what he's doing. So he's exhorting them here to
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net, let not people beguile you or pull you away or draw you
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away of your reward back, you know, going back to just, you
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know, voluntary humility and and all the things that you could do
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on a on a carnal side of things. But Aaron, go ahead with your
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thoughts on 18 I I I. Don't know.
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I just kind of the words of it do stand out to you.
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Let no man beguile you. Like, like somebody's tricking
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you out of your reward in a voluntary humility.
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Like it's kind of like they have, they have tricked you kind
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of like Galatians says, who has bewitched you to, you know, like
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somebody has tricked them into something.
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They are. I guess it kind of stood out to
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me that they are by the by the thing that the person says they
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are this this person that's being taught or swayed is
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voluntarily giving up a reward, right?
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I mean, that's what he, you know, let no man beguile you of
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your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of
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angels, intruding on those things which he hath not seen
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vainly puffed up by his flesh of the mind.
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So it's I mean, I guess we all recognize that, but we hear
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things and we're like, oh man, that sounds good, or oh man,
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that's that that is intriguing or I'm really interested in that
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subject. And we go down this road and we
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actually in the process of voluntarily going down the road,
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we beguile ourselves of our own reward.
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And that's kind of what I see in the verse.
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But I know you kind of stopped short of what all it has to do
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with, but that's what I see in that it's, it's like you, you've
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not been forced to do so. You, you, you have been enticed
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into something. You're voluntarily doing it.
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And, and maybe even they say it that way.
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Maybe they even say, oh, you don't have to do this.
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This is just the best way. Or this is the, this is, you
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know, real spiritual people do these things or real spiritual
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people seek this road or go down this road and you just
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voluntarily go into that. And.
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Yeah. Makes it gives the idea of a man
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made humility basically a voluntary 1A man made one being
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not what you want. Oh yeah, you don't want that
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kind of humility. Oh, yeah, Melvin, go ahead.
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Yeah, I was as I was studying this earlier today.
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It, it kind of, and I think we touched on it last week, but it
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seems like he is making a point here even earlier about how
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Christ is, you know, he says he blotted out the handwriting of
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ordinances. In other words, I was kind of
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looking up that word ordinances. And it, there's like the Bible
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talks about the law and it talks about commandments and then it
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talks about ordinances and ordinances is basically just
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like specific direction or specific, not direction, but
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specific things that God gave the children of Israel about
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worship and, and doing sacrifices and all that, like
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that, that like the specifics of it.
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And the law is more of a, a round term of, of things that
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they were supposed to do. They had to do, they had to
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follow the law, like thou should not steal, you know, and, and,
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and those kinds of things. And so it's just interesting
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that he is saying that Jesus dying on the cross took care of
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those ordinances that was against us.
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In other words, even the specific details of things that
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God wanted, wanted mankind to do, following the law and all
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those things and commandments that he took that and nailed it
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to the cross. And it also includes voluntary,
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it says handwriting of ordinances.
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In other words, it also includes laws that man tried to put on
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other men, which he's going to point out in the next couple
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verses. But I had brought up about, I
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think I quoted revelations where it talks about the book of life
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and, and, and, and that and, and about the, you know, the books
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are open and your works are in them when in the day of
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judgment. And I, I'm not saying that that
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I don't think that that is was wrong and sorry, that is true
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what I brought out there, but I think I was going down a Bunny
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trail. Like, in other words, the
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context here is in the ordinances and the laws and also
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man made ordinances and things that men are trying to make us
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go into or trying to do to pull us away from crimes.
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And so it's so easy to get out of context.
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It seems like, and I think I did that when going to revelations,
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not that that was necessarily not true, but it was out of
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context. And so that's kind of
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interesting to me because that he says there in verse 18, let
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no man begow you owe your reward and involuntary humility and
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worship of worshipping of angels.
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It what I see there and what is really stood out to me is that
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he calls our faith in Christ and in Christ alone a reward.
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He says don't let someone begal you of that reward in human
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humility. In other words, man made
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humility like you were saying me in humidity that I am trying to
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muster up in my own fleshly strength and believe me, I've
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done that already. And I know there's a lot of
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people I've seen that you know have have done that and that is
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God is not like that. He doesn't want a voluntary
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humility or man made humility and worshipping of angels.
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So he's just pointing out that there's men that are going to
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try and lead you astray or beguile you.
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Of your reward. And don't let them do that
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because he says that they're vainly puffed up in their own
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fleshly minds. And so it's a fleshly thing.
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It's it's not a a Christ. Or spiritual or spirit.
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Thing it's actually carnal and fleshly.
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Yeah, that's right. Good stuff, Andrew.
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Yeah. I think the you could also take
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the angle of the whole voluntary thing meaning that it's not
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founded in the word of God. It's not.
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It's just a something that some people are trying to put on you.
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And what it comes down to is from what he said just before
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that. About not letting any man spoil
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us through philosophy in vain deceit after the tradition of
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man which is not after Christ. It's vainly fleshly puffed up
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ideas of men that is not grounded and founded in the word
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of God or the Spirit that but it's men trying to bring about
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some kind of unnatural humility. Disingenuous.
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It's like someone putting painting their cars black
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because they want to tell the world that they're humble.
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You know, people do that like it's a form of humility because
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my car is black. So I'm not, I don't have that
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pride. I'm humble enough to drive a
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black car, so it's a form of humility.
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But there's no verse that says thou shalt have all black
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things. You know anything that is not
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black and dark and devilish? What the hell?
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You did that, Andrew. And the other thing is what it's
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really doing is what is robbing your reward.
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If you're circumcised with the circumcision made without hands,
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then you've. If you believe that, then the
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flesh is already gone, right? So why would be still dabbling
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around in it? It's like I was telling my
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friend the other day. It's like what we're doing is
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we're chasing down our foreskin that has been cut off and set
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apart. It's away from us and we're
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digging through that foreskin trying to find problems.
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We're trying to better get that foreskin to become better and
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better and better, but it's rotting.
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But yet we're attracted to that foreskin instead of focusing on
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the things that the spirit now that the old man's cut off, it's
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cut away. So it's it's robbing us from the
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reward of believing the that the old man is gone.
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It's crucified. It's a way where where
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circumcision with mate with the circumcision without hands, like
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there's the old body, the old man is gone.
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The ordinances that had to tell that old man to do the right
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thing is no longer in effect because the old man is no longer
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there to be told what to do. Now we have the spirit that is
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within us and a new man in faith that causes us to be a better
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person than the man that was under the law and in the flesh.
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But most people think that in for us to be a better person, we
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still need the law. So they so they say, well, so
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you can just murder somebody then because you're no longer
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under the 10 commandments. And I said, well, if the law of
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the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus that says to love your
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neighbors, yourself provokes you to murder somebody, then I guess
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it does. And I guess you need that law.
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Yeah. You're really thinking that if
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you follow the law of the life spirit and the love of Christ in
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you, it's that love. If you believe in that love, in
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that redemption, and if that doesn't humble you and you still
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pop up and think you're something, if you need to murder
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somebody, you know, I guess you're still under the law, then
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you're not believing the Gospel. And so the Gospels does make you
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a way better person. But people that don't believe it
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still think they need to be under some kind of law to
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produce some kind of humility. And it's it's a deception and
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it's beguiling. I was gonna say, I don't know if
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I should say it or not, but I have a kind of a joke.
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We really are not wearing a head covering anymore.
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So why are we, you know, messing around with it, right?
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Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
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No, that's that's good. And the, the word voluntary
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humility, it just means, you know, at will, you know,
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something that you will to do. It would be, it would be the
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opposite of an involuntary, would just be like, you don't
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control it yourself. You know, like an involuntary
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movement is one that like, like when you when someone scares you
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and you're like, yeah, that's involuntary.
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You, you, you do yeah, your hands made that motion, but you
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didn't command it. And.
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And that's what Timothy said there, huh?
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I like what Timothy said there. That reminds me of of in
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Galatians when Paul said that I don't care if me or an Angel
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from heaven. Oh yeah, that was you of any
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other gospel. If you preach it, you're damned.
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And you know how many people say I was doing this or that and God
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told me I heard this voice? Like I don't really give a rap.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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And for those, not everyone can see those comments, but Guy
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commented and said that Muhammad listened to an Angel.
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Joseph Smith listened to an Angel listen to an Angel.
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New Age listens to angels, you know, ascending masters.
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And but they are all pursuing voluntary humility, which I said
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that's that's exactly what we're talking about, just, you know,
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trying to come up with our own righteousness, our own
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established way of doing something where a, a humility
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that God is actually pleased with is one that is involuntary.
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It's one that comes because of your gratefulness and your
25:57
subjection to your known master. Then then that you will submit
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that you'll be in humility. So verse 19, which is just kind
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of a continuation, but it brings in a few more kind of
26:11
interesting aspects of this, I think it says and not holding
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the head. So this is another thing.
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Not holding the head as the head is just as bad as you
26:23
worshipping angels. But I'll read the whole thing
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from which all the body by joints and bands having
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nourishment ministered and knit together increase us with the
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increase of God. And Aaron, I'll let you go on
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this, but it find it interesting.
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He just wants to be sure that we know that the nourishment is
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ministered and where God goes, it goes.
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It is. It is all together if we hold
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that head as the head where it should be.
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Yeah, I would say that I don't know all the exact routes or
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roads they were going down in order to do what he's warning
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them not to do in verse 18. No, I don't know all the things
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that was going on in that day that would have been qualified
27:14
as voluntary humility or intruding into those things
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which they have not seen. But I know this, that in the
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process of going down those roads or following those things
27:27
voluntarily, what they did was verse 1919 says they didn't hold
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up the head, right. In other words, they, they gave
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credit to something else for freeing them from sin or from
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making them humble or for the credit of, you know, whatever
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they were doing or how. I don't know what all they did.
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But in the process of doing those things, they were not
27:54
holding the head from which all the body by joints and bands
27:58
having nourishment ministered. So he's saying the head of the
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body, Christ is doing all the nourishing.
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And they were evidently giving credit to angels as though they
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had done that right. They were went worshipping
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angels. They they were evidently
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intruding into things and saying that an Angel had given this,
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like the guy mentioned there, you know, had given this message
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or had given this thought or had taught him this thing.
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And he says in that process you're not holding the head from
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which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment and
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knit together increaseth with the increase of God.
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That is, if if there is some increase of the body, if the if
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if you as an individual or the assembly as a whole is drawing
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closer to God or, or having some positive thing go on amongst
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them, it's God that's giving that increase, right.
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And they were evidently given credit to or trying to worship
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angels for doing that, or maybe their own.
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He says at the end of verse 18 that they were vainly puffed up
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by their fleshly mind. They were given credit to their
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ability to be humble in themselves, as you all already
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mentioned or whatever. But but in that process, they're
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not holding the head in the position that he deserves as the
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one that gives the increase to the body.
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Yep, sure, that's well done. Yeah, I like it says in
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Ephesians 4 it says this, and I really love this, these verses,
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especially verse 14, it's 1415 and 16 in Ephesians 4 it says
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that we henceforth be no more children tossed to and fro, and
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carried about with every wind of doctrine, and by the sleight of
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men, and cunning crackness whereby they lay in wait to
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deceive. But speaking the truth in love
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may grow up into Him in all things, which is the head, even
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Christ, from which the whole body fitly joined together and
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compacted by that which every joint supplieth according to the
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special effectual working in the measure of every part maketh
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increase. So the fact is, is that just
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like you were pointing out, Aaron that they were they were
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going to, you know, voluntary humility or angels or whatever
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and not holding the head Christ. Because listen, if we don't go
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and to the head or we don't acknowledge the head Christ of
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the body where all the joints and bands having nourishment
30:42
ministered it, it doesn't work like we we get tossed to and
30:46
fro. We get we get deceived and we
30:48
get beguiled. And that's what he's trying to
30:50
point out here is that we need to be come back to the head.
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We need to come back to Christ because that's where our nourish
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nourishment is ministered and we're knit together and we're in
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unity. Actually, the Bible says through
31:05
Christ, not through looking the same or even necessarily
31:10
believing everything the same or driving the same color car or or
31:15
whatever it may be. That's not unity.
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Unity is being knit together in the head, Christ and and nothing
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else. So that's what I see that he's
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pointing out here. Yeah, Andrew.
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Yeah, he just got done telling us earlier in chapter 2 that how
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we were completing Christ and everything that causes us to
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become more spiritual minded, more stronger in faith, more
31:48
free from sin, has to do with US believing in that work that has
31:52
already been done. That's how that that increase
31:57
with that our being, our mindset, our faith is in
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something that has already been done in Christ, which is what
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God did. Then our increase is from God,
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our head. That's where it comes from.
32:13
So to illustrate it, let's say some guy comes along and beguils
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my wife to go and see some homeless people in some corner
32:25
and she does a good thing. It's even a good thing she feeds
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20 people and this guy and her went and did that.
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But the good things, the reward, the increase, whatever that my
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wife experienced wasn't from me. It was another source.
32:46
It came from somewhere else. So most people, well, my life
32:50
just got so much better since I believed this thing and since
32:54
God showed me all these things and since these angels told me
32:57
all these things, I got all this new understanding of humility
33:00
and what it actually means. The the words don't really just
33:03
mean what they mean. And and God had to tell me now
33:06
that those revelation and now I know and you guys don't know and
33:10
I'm here to tell you what God told me.
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And you guys don't know until you hear what I have to say.
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And you know, this whole thing of beguilings, like, yeah, it
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wasn't what you thought. It wasn't what God just said.
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Jesus Christ didn't actually make you complete.
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Here's something you can do. You like someone coming to my
33:27
wife, say, you know what, your husband, your head, you know,
33:30
he's got some faults, you know, And she goes, oh, yeah.
33:34
And then he'd be like, you know, we could go do this together and
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they could do it, and there could be an increase.
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But it's not an increase from the head.
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It's not where we're supposed to come from.
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And the other thing is how do we expect as a group to have life,
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the life of Christ and, and have spiritual growth and spiritual
33:56
wisdom? Because it's obviously very
33:58
clear that we can either be strong in faith or weak in
34:00
faith. We can either be have a lot of
34:03
spiritual wisdom and spiritual understanding that's going to
34:05
benefit and it's going to change the way we actually live out our
34:07
lives. And he's saying if we don't
34:10
increase with the understanding of what Christ did, then we're
34:15
going to struggle. It's going to be we're we're
34:17
losing out and it would be like taking your head off and putting
34:22
a little bit on the side and opening up holes and access for
34:28
other influence to give you increase that is no longer
34:32
Christ. It's something else.
34:34
It's foreign. So we need to reject it.
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You have to stick with the finished work of crowds.
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Yeah, yeah, he'll, he'll make a really good argument just ahead
34:45
here for what you're saying. And that's that's exactly right.
34:48
But before we go there, Cameron posted this.
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I want to read it. It's really good.
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Amen. Christ is ministering on the
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inside of the believer, so much so that we now are the temple of
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the living God. What an unsearchable riches
35:05
richness. Therefore, volunteering or doing
35:08
Christian minary ministry in ignorance of what Christ is
35:12
doing inside of the believer is the root of the problem with all
35:16
the people chasing circumcision or outward forms of godliness.
35:20
Having said that, I'm fully aware of the many things that
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arise in life that the Holy Spirit approves and disproves
35:25
of. There's a fountain of wisdom
35:27
that comes with having Christ in us.
35:30
It helps us with numerous things, Wisdom, righteousness,
35:32
sanctification and redemption, to name a few. 100% I mean that
35:37
that's what we're talking about. Why would we go back to the weak
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in the beggarly elements? He says in one spot.
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Why would we do that? What in the world would make us
35:45
do that? Other than which we're going to
35:47
find out in the last verse of the chapter here that there's
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this, you know, show of wisdom that we all want.
35:54
We all want to look wise. We all want to look good.
35:57
And that I think is what convinces us to do these things
36:01
that are actually not of God. They look good, but they're not
36:04
of God. That's that's what's so terrible
36:06
about it, but. We want to be set apart.
36:08
We want to be visually and visibly set apart, sanctified.
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There's those are the godly ones, the humble ones.
36:16
Yeah, but if you we want to shortchange, we want to we want
36:20
to just take a shortcut around the Holy Spirit's leading.
36:25
We don't want that. We just want to look good.
36:29
All right, let's let's keep going here because he spells
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that out for us here. Verse 20 Wherefore if you be
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dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why as
36:40
though living in the world are ye subject to ordinances which
36:44
are touch not taste, not handle not, which are all, which all
36:50
are to perish with the using after the commandments and the
36:53
doctrines of men. And I'll let you go ahead on
36:56
this, but he is making that exact call.
36:59
Like why in the world would you be doing this it I mean, it
37:03
doesn't make sense if you look at the whole picture, but.
37:07
Yeah, I have had people actually turn this thing I like
37:11
completely backwards and suggest that he is promoting touch, not
37:16
taste, not handle on. Like I literally had a guy try
37:19
to turn this around and suggest that he is somehow, I don't even
37:24
remember how he said it didn't make enough sense for me to
37:26
remember, but he was. He was trying to turn around and
37:30
suggest that he's promoting you to touch, not taste, not handle
37:34
not and he's saying I mean just listen to the way he said it.
37:38
We're for like if it's true that you be dead with Christ from the
37:44
rudiments of the world, why as though living in the world are
37:48
you subject to ordinances here? They are right.
37:52
If you're dead with Christ, why would you put yourself under
37:55
things like touch, not taste, not handle not.
37:58
I actually heard a guy that and I, I'll not say who it was.
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He means he's dead now, but I actually like a lot of what he
38:06
says. But I've heard him say, if you
38:09
wonder if you, I don't remember, he said it several different
38:14
ways. But if, if you wonder how, why
38:17
we're unhealthy or why we're this or why we're that, he said
38:23
we've got the answer. And he's really pointing back to
38:26
like, you need to go back and look at what is in the Old
38:29
Testament, because that's where the real living is.
38:32
And like I said, and I and I like a lot of the other things
38:35
the guy says, but but he's points back and saying, listen,
38:38
if you really want fulfilment out of life, we've got this Old
38:44
Testament law back here that really will tell you all about
38:47
the real fulfillment of life. He says, if you're dead in
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Christ, why would you want to go back and try to find your
38:52
fulfillment in those things? Right.
38:55
So I just think that's really interesting.
38:57
I mean, it's, it is A, and I think it's interesting to notice
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specifically what he, what he addresses.
39:07
Like he's not because just like Andrew said a while ago, we
39:13
obviously are told that we need to love our neighbors ourself,
39:16
even in the New Testament. So he's not addressing things
39:20
that that are true. Like Jesus said, the whole law
39:25
could be fulfilled in one word. Even in this thou shalt love thy
39:28
neighbors ourself. We're not undermining this
39:31
concept of loving one another or being charitable to somebody or
39:34
something like that. When he says this, he's pointing
39:37
to specific things that, as the previous verses said, you would
39:42
have to voluntarily do, right? I got to volunteer.
39:45
I'm going to. I'm going to decide tomorrow
39:47
that I'm not going to eat pork anymore because evidently that's
39:50
the right way to live because that's what the Old Testament
39:52
did. Or I'm aside tomorrow that I'm
39:55
not going to touch my wife within so many days of her
39:59
having a baby because that's what the Old Testament says to
40:01
do, right? I mean, like he's saying, you're
40:03
going to go back and get in these specific things that makes
40:08
you appear really spiritual, really spiritual.
40:13
It really looks it. Really.
40:15
As somebody said a while ago, it really looks.
40:17
Good. But he says all that stuff, it's
40:19
going to perish. I mean, it don't matter if you
40:22
eat with dirty hands, don't matter how much chicken you eat,
40:25
don't matter how many, how often, don't matter what kind of
40:27
relations you have with your wife, how close it was to having
40:30
a baby or what. None of that matters.
40:32
It's all going to perish. With the using, yeah.
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And it's going to perish with the using.
40:38
So you use, it'll die even if you're it'll die.
40:40
It's not, it has no stability. You know, it's, it's like God
40:45
said that, you know, he lives in us.
40:48
We're the temple. You know, the Holy Spirit is
40:50
within us, It's guiding us, it's leading us, it's comforting us,
40:53
all those things. And then we say, yeah, that's a
40:55
good idea. But shouldn't we also maybe have
40:58
some kind of church membership program so that, you know, just
41:02
to make sure? I mean, that is exactly what
41:04
we're talking about here. Like, so we know better.
41:07
I would why would you use those elements?
41:09
But. Well, it just makes me think
41:12
that, you know, the fact is, is that the reason that these
41:17
things are in the Bible here is that mankind has the tendencies
41:23
to do these things and have have had ever since creation and will
41:29
until Jesus comes back until God decides that this, you know, the
41:34
end is this world is common and he's going to burn it all all
41:37
up. But it's just a simple fact.
41:40
We tend to want to gravitate back to the law.
41:45
And it makes me think like, so it says, why are you subject to
41:49
ordinances? In other words, if we're going
41:52
back to the law like it says somewhere else, I can't think of
41:55
where it is that if you're going to go back to the law, then you
41:58
need to keep the whole law like. And the problem is, is when you
42:01
start. And I had this conversation with
42:04
another individual just a couple weeks ago about church rules.
42:11
And I, I said, look, the fact is, is that when you start
42:15
making laws or rules, it's a never ending thing.
42:20
And that's how it was with, with the law of God as well.
42:24
You know, he gave the law, he gave the commandments, but then
42:27
he had to give the ordinances down to the very detail.
42:29
And if you read through Deuteronomy and, and, and the
42:34
script a chapter before that, it's like there's this list of
42:38
things that every he touched on everything of what they need to
42:43
do in this case. And in that case, there's just
42:46
so many things. And that's what happens when we
42:49
start pulling back to the law even now, as you know, and away
42:54
from Christ is it's a never ending thing.
42:56
You're going to have to make a law for this.
42:58
Well, now we need to make a law with it.
43:00
It's just we have to make ordinances upon ordinances upon
43:02
ordinances, and he's just saying, why are you subject?
43:06
It doesn't work, it hasn't worked and it won't work.
43:10
And God has given us a way that does work and that is we are
43:14
dead in Christ. That's what he's saying.
43:16
If you'd be dead with Christ in Christ, then then you're not
43:20
subject to these things. And so that's what he's pointing
43:24
out. But we just want to go back to
43:26
those things. For some reason we think that
43:29
Christ is not good enough or or what God has provided in Christ
43:33
is not good enough or does is not sufficient.
43:36
And then Xander. Yeah, it comes back to the old
43:40
crucifixion. Yep.
43:42
If you're dead with Christ from the world and the things in the
43:46
world. Why would you need laws to tell
43:51
you to regulate you to regulate your life.
43:57
The thing that he's telling us that is a fact that is true that
44:03
a believer is cut off from the world to the where the world has
44:09
no power over them. I remember exactly when that
44:12
happened. I lost any kind of interest in
44:16
this world to the point that I sold the the most beautiful
44:19
piece of property that I've ever in this neighborhood.
44:22
A solar couldn't care less. But before I was safe when I
44:26
looked at it's like I'm going to do whatever I can.
44:29
I don't care if I have to work until midnight.
44:30
I'm going to do what I have to do to get this piece of land.
44:33
And I would literally get the chitters and I couldn't sleep at
44:36
night and I'm just like this land.
44:39
And I could be almost that worked up about a horse.
44:43
You know, this horse would just get up and I'd be out there
44:46
shining it all up to impress the people around me.
44:50
And, you know, this horse would lift up her head and be shiny
44:53
black hair and it's beautiful and a nice fancy trot.
44:58
And it would just like, oh, and trucks would go down the road.
45:03
And all my friends and boys were like, man, look at that truck.
45:07
But these beguiling people assume is that we're still
45:12
chopping at the bit at the world.
45:15
Like if there was a way that I could fulfill my flesh and be
45:20
obsessed with the world, I would do it.
45:23
That is a full-fledged law minded person.
45:27
If there was a gap somewhere that I could have some leeway,
45:30
what does the law say? How can I get around it?
45:34
Maybe a little bit. You know, we have all these
45:36
rules in the Amish church and we have all these rules in other
45:39
places to kind of guide us where there's not the law of the
45:42
spirit of life in US. And then we're always like, OK,
45:45
how can I get around it? So we're trying to.
45:49
So he's saying, you know what, the circumcision dying with
45:53
Christ is way more efficient than some kind of ordinances.
45:59
So why would you go back to it? Some ordinances that was not
46:02
sufficient. If I can get to the root problem
46:06
in the agency says that the world is I'm crucified to the
46:09
world in the world. To me, that sounds like a pretty
46:12
good solution. So why would we go for something
46:15
less? Because you don't believe the
46:18
gospel, that's why you would. You don't believe that you're
46:21
crucified. You still want.
46:22
You don't believe that the foreskin is actually cut off.
46:25
You don't believe you're circumcised or you're still
46:26
messing around with the old foreskin.
46:28
You still want to blame the old man for all your bad habits and
46:32
your bad actions. You still want an excuse.
46:34
You still want to testify yourself for why you're living
46:36
like the devil. And I would rather be stumbling
46:42
and increasing slowly and immaturely with the hat lined up
46:47
on top and be having the increase of God than to be
46:51
looking and appearing good on the outside like a coffin and
46:55
inside it's junk. Jesus hated this is outward
47:00
looking great, but the heart's evil.
47:04
Jesus came to change the heart from a Stony heart heart to a
47:08
soft heart and make us righteous from within.
47:12
Put that spirit within us that is holy and righteous and
47:16
hopefully that will grow and it will spill out all over our
47:19
lives and around all the people. But Oh no, that's that.
47:24
I know people that say those things and they believe those
47:26
things and their fruit is just not, it's just not there.
47:29
So we it just proves that we have to put these regulations
47:33
that are man made wisdom and beguiling on them.
47:36
And man, since we did that, we have such order and it's so
47:39
peaceful. We actually know how to dress.
47:41
We don't have to think about it. We know how to be humble.
47:44
We know how to to make anybody stumble because we have it all
47:47
figured out. But God's still going to come
47:51
back and say, where was I like, where was I?
47:56
Where was the head? Where you put me aside to follow
48:00
your own thing? And that's the warning I see in
48:04
there. Yeah, I want to I want to touch
48:08
something that where my thoughts kind of as a whole now that we
48:10
are kind of through this a little bit.
48:12
Melvin touched on that verse, you know, about keeping the
48:15
whole law, you know, like if you're going to keep the law,
48:17
keep the whole thing. And I think that the whole idea
48:22
here is the intent of of why you do things is is what actually
48:28
matters here because he says in verse 19 he said and not holding
48:32
the head like in other words, so we're not physically holding his
48:36
head, but we we're not giving its rightful place in our mind
48:40
when we do things. But look at look at Galatians 5
48:45
verse two and three say, behold, I Paul say unto you that if you
48:49
be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
48:52
For I testify again to every man that is circumcised that he is
48:56
ill better to do the whole law. And now if somebody in today is
49:02
circumcised, that does not mean that he can't you know that he
49:08
that Christ should not profit him anything.
49:09
That is not what that's talking about.
49:11
But if you reckon your circumcision to be your your
49:14
circumcision to be your source of righteousness, then you're
49:18
going to have to keep the whole law if you want to do it that
49:20
way. And is it isn't that kind of
49:22
like on on a 10,000 floor view? Isn't that what is exhortation
49:25
is here. Oh yeah.
49:27
Put your good things that you do in his rightful spot.
49:30
Realize what it is. Don't look at that as your you
49:33
know that that's the whole thing.
49:35
I just, I think that was kind of a good example there in
49:37
Galatians 5. That's exactly what he's talking
49:39
about. He's not saying that if you're
49:40
circumcised that Christ, you have no hope for Christ.
49:44
Well, it's like, it's like, he's also not saying that murdering
49:48
is fine exactly, but they're not under the pen commandment.
49:52
It's good not to murder somebody.
49:54
Right. It's also good to not even hate
49:56
somebody, right? So again, it's the assumption
50:02
that it's almost like people think that we believe the gospel
50:07
so we can get away with things, but what they don't understand
50:10
is actually more serious than it ever was.
50:14
Because if we have something that was so glorious that the
50:19
people, General Russell, couldn't look into Moses when it
50:22
came out of the mountain, and the 10 commandments, that
50:24
glorious that they had to be shielded from the glory that it
50:27
had if that was to be done away, because we have something much
50:31
brighter, Can you imagine what that would do?
50:34
It's much brighter than that. It's much more glorious than
50:36
that. What is?
50:38
So our responsibility to walk in righteousness is way higher now
50:43
than the law because we have something better than the law.
50:46
It's that the law could not bring life.
50:47
Had it brought life, we wouldn't need anything else.
50:51
But it wasn't able to do it. Now we don't have an excuse.
50:54
Now, if we don't live in righteousness and holiness, I
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think it's more of a disgrace. It's kind of like what we were
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doing in the Hebrews where it says if you have tasted Jesus
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Christ and all he has done and you put it aside, you trot it
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under foot. And this is a form of doing
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that, not holding the head by which all the body by trot.
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That is a part of doing that, and that's the problem.
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Yep, you're exactly right, Andrew.
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That's it's more serious, it's what I'm trying to get it close.
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Yeah, that's right. And as Cameron, he's, he's got a
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sharp pencil tonight. He's typing away here.
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We if, if we be dead with Christ, we are alive unto God.
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People in that state are to live as such and let God lead them
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from there. This is incredible.
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How long has humanity waited for such an opportunity?
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That's exactly right. You know, we were wanting to be
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LED from the inside and now to just say, oh, you know what?
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I'll do it my way. So yeah, that's.
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Good stuff, all right. Verse 23 we'll wrap up with this
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which things have indeed a show of wisdom in will worship and
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humility and neglecting of the body not in any honor to the
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satisfying of the flesh. I I just I mean this is his
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conclusion of the entire matter. They do look good.
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They they do look, they do have a show of wisdom and they do
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have a show of willing worship, humility, you know, neglecting
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of the body. In other words, you fast or you,
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you stand out in the rain. Yo, that we're the chicken kind
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of thing. But stuff like that.
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Well, but that's what it is. So anyway, and any of your
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thoughts on that? Yeah, I think you had a great
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point a while ago that it is a you can see or to me, I can see
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in his language that the person has a desire to have an appear a
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humble or a a godlier than thou. In fact, I've got some people
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lives over here not too far from me that that claim to be, I
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don't know, it's, it's a weird mix.
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They claim to be Calvinist, but yet they go back, there's their
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Sabbath keep, like they would worship on Saturday and they
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would try to keep all the feasts that the Old Testament has.
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And I can just see it like it just, you can just see it.
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They, they have this, they want to appear as a holier than thou
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kind of person. Like I can just see it in them
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that they, they want to say that since they'd go back and do all
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these things that nobody else is doing that they feel superior to
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this the regular Christian, because they're doing this all
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this hard stuff and all these things that are in takes great
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humility to do and takes great sacrifice to do this.
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You know, they don't give in to the body and eat just anything
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they want. Their their diet is kosher and
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all that stuff, you know, and I just, I don't know, I thought of
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this verse as you was talking there 2nd Corinthians 10 and
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12:10 Second Corinthians 10 verse 12.
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He says, for we dare not make ourselves of the number or
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compare ourselves with some that commend themselves, but they
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that is the ones that commend themselves.
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But they measuring themselves by themselves and comparing
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themselves among themselves are not lies.
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They're not wise. I mean, they may be going around
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patting each other on the back. They may be saying, yeah, man,
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we are the only ones giving this thing up or not doing this
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thing, you know, not eating this thing or or we're trying to keep
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all those Old Testament shadows still today that that pointed to
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Christ and they can pat themselves on the back.
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But he said that's not wise. You're not smart.
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You're not, you're not wise than that, but.
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Oh yeah, that's right. Good stuff, Melvin.
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Yeah. You know, I think of this verse,
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he's just kind of wrapping it up here like you said.
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And I think when he says about neglecting of the body, what
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comes to my mind or thinking of that is like you said, when
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we're trying to trying to do things physically to try and
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show that we're spiritual or that we're holy and in an
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outward appearance. But the Bible says that God
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wants to be in our hearts and he he sent us the Spirit.
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He wants to be in US like, like at what's his name was putting
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on the court on the chat, you know, because God, God wants to
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be in us. He wants to guide us from the
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inside. He doesn't want this outward
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thing and neglecting of the body.
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We think that that's such a, a humble thing or such a holy
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thing, or that I'm sacrificing myself.
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Look, God, I'm sacrificing for you and God really doesn't care
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about that. And so that was one of the
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things that point out to me because we already talked about
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humility and, and also in in will worship that we're just
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worshiping because we think that that is the thing to do and, or,
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or that it looks good or, or we, whatever it may be, it says it
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And that is he wraps it all up there, says that is not in any
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honor to the satisfying of the flesh.
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In other words, it's, it's an empty thing.
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It's it's a vanity thing. It doesn't satisfy even your
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flesh. It doesn't satisfy anything
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really, especially not God, but it doesn't even satisfy your
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flesh. So anyway, that's just these
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these verses are so good. When I read these after I got
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saved, it's just like it was just enlightening to me that the
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the Christ it is only in Christ and what Christ has done for us
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and we need to stay focused on that.
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It's so easy to get distracted into laws and ordinances and all
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these things. We we think that we need to do
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something. We, we want to try and look
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special or we want to be like almost in a good spiritual way.
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We want to try and look like we're really spiritual, we're
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really connected to God. And then we get derailed and
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into, you know, trying to keep things going on our own flesh
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and our own selves and not relying on Christ and relying on
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God. Yeah, which is actually going to
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continue to spiral if that's what you're chasing.
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You end up in a shipwreck completely eventually because
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it, it's not sustainable, that kind of life, you know, I've
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tried it. We, we all have probably set
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some point in our lives, try to make trying desperately to
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maintain our image against all odds, you know, because I never
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had any luck maintaining my flesh or directing it.
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It worked, Andrew. Yeah, this is the verse that I
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was reading and studying when the scales fell off of my eyes
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for the very first time. Oh, nice.
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I was studying this passage, these passages.
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I I looked up as a Schwarzen trooper, Amish, 23 years old,
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not knowing nobody told me how to study the Bible, but I was
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told that we're following the laws of man and it's not
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biblical. So I looked up everywhere the
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word law was used, which in German was such and I was doing
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this in German and I came, I came across a lot of the word
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laws and satsangling and Colossians.
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And then I was reading about touch not taste not handle not.
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And it's like here it is. This is why we're of Amish.
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Like This is why we're Amish. It's a good thing, you know,
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that's why we're subject to ordinances.
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You know, I was reading it in the wrong context.
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I didn't follow it. But then he says in verse
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something which are all to perish with the using after
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commandments and doctrines of men.
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And I was like, Amen, like, you know, it all wears out.
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So what a small thing to, you know, to punish ourselves and
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then neglect our bodies for the cause of being humble.
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And then I read verse 23 and I didn't like the word show in
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there, which things have indeed a show of wisdom in world
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worship and it doesn't sound good.
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And then I read it. I, I backed up and read again
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and I know all of a sudden I realized it's all a negative.
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He's not saying this is a good thing to do.
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He says this is actually what is keeping you from believing the
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gospel. It's beguiling you.
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It's chasing you away from the life of God.
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You're it's, you're the head's in the wrong place.
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And then I write it again and I was like, dude, it's spelling me
1:00:07
out completely, totally exposed me.
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And at that point? The the the light came on and I
1:00:16
left the Amish I think 2 weeks later, like from completely
1:00:19
Amish to completely like believing the gospel right then.
1:00:24
But the beguiling that then was already in my head was OK, I got
1:00:30
it. I called the believers up that
1:00:32
were trying to witness to me and I said I got it.
1:00:35
I want to get born again. And, you know, in my mind, I
1:00:38
didn't do the thing I was just studying in.
1:00:41
I just understood it and I got it.
1:00:44
And everybody that tried, I talked to is like, you are
1:00:47
saved. You believe the gospel.
1:00:49
And that's like, I'm not letting any man tell me anymore what to
1:00:52
do. I've done that long enough.
1:00:57
And I tried to do the whole confession and, you know,
1:01:02
praying and asking God to forgive me and to save me and
1:01:04
asking Jesus in my heart. I'd respond to every altar call
1:01:08
a miserable mess for like two years and until I finally
1:01:14
realized that I believe the gospel the moment I let go of
1:01:19
putting on this show of wisdom. And I read that a little
1:01:23
different than what you did, Nolan.
1:01:26
I think it's a continuation and you can correct me, you guys, if
1:01:29
I if I'm wrong, which things have indeed a show of wisdom and
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world worship and humility. It makes you look humble.
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In fact, you're neglecting the body looks good.
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Look how they go on their horse. And Bucky.
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They're neglecting the body. You think it's satisfying their
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flesh? No.
1:01:47
No, they're really denying the flesh.
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Not in any honor to the satisfying the flesh.
1:01:54
So humble, so sweet, so good. That's the way I read that.
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But that's that's good. And and it's not that denying
1:02:05
the flesh is even wrong. I mean, if you look, I had to
1:02:07
think of in regards to that what Aaron had uncovered this.
1:02:11
I don't remember what he was preaching about anymore.
1:02:13
But over the weekend we read where Paul was speaking as a
1:02:17
fool in the 2nd Corinthians 11, where he said that he was in
1:02:21
laborers more abundant and stripes about measure in prisons
1:02:24
more often and and death OFT. He was, you know, five times
1:02:29
received 40 stripes and beaten his rods and all that good
1:02:31
stuff. You know, so he was there was a
1:02:34
lot of stuff happening to him, but it definitely wasn't show
1:02:37
for a show of will worship. You know what I mean?
1:02:40
Like so he didn't I I'm sure he didn't like those things.
1:02:42
He denied the pleasures of life for a season.
1:02:45
Of course he did, but it wasn't so that people would see him
1:02:48
denying the pleasures of life. It was so that people would get
1:02:51
the gospel. That's.
1:02:53
Right. Well, he's he's actually saying
1:02:54
that if you're dead with Christ, you don't need to put on a show
1:02:57
of connecting your body. You're it's you're just free
1:03:00
from it. You're dead like you, you can
1:03:02
completely deny the flesh even more so you don't have to make
1:03:06
it look like you're denying the flesh.
1:03:10
You're just denying it for sure. Like a Christian should be seen
1:03:14
as somebody that can be in an environment where the flesh just
1:03:20
would normally come out and he's just like, yeah, whatever.
1:03:23
Like I smashed my finger and I can just start cussing.
1:03:26
Or if one of my work Co workers is probably the biggest trial
1:03:29
for me to not get heated, like why would you do it that way?
1:03:34
You know, like I know that that's going to break if you did
1:03:37
that, like what a you know, you know, and you get the flesh ones
1:03:42
to like. And if AI think if a boss can be
1:03:46
keep his cool the whole time, that is someone that believes
1:03:50
he's dead. That's the true task.
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Oh man, yeah, it really is. No, that's that's good.
1:04:01
So in conclusion, realize that we are in dead, dead with
1:04:08
Christ. We are alive unto God.
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He is our ruler. He lives in us, He guides us,
1:04:13
directs us, He does all these things for us and we have no
1:04:17
need of making a voluntary show of our life.
1:04:22
I think if we live out our life in the Spirit, that will be show
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enough for anybody in the world. And you know, and if we
1:04:32
continue, you know, how do you guys do that?
1:04:34
How do you walk that way in life?
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Because Jesus died on the cross and let me live in him, that's
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why. I actually got a good example of
1:04:41
that. It just came to me real quick.
1:04:44
I remember in my horse and Bucky and it's winding, I'm blowing
1:04:50
and it's just in my face like ice.
1:04:54
I'm freezing. I look right next to me in a
1:04:57
four lane highway nurse's car with this chick in there, her
1:05:01
hair down, sleeveless shirt and enjoying her life in that
1:05:06
beautiful car. Completely comfortable.
1:05:10
I could tell she's 100% comfortable and I'm here mincing
1:05:13
in the wind and like. But I'm denying my flesh and she
1:05:16
is living in the flesh. Yeah, such a good Andrew
1:05:21
Schrock. Such a good boy.
1:05:28
That's that's funny. That's a funny example, but it's
1:05:31
not what we're reading about here.
1:05:33
It's actually not funny. It isn't fun.
1:05:35
He's really getting on their case here, Which.
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Very beguiling. It is.
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Yep. All right, we're out of time
1:05:42
already, so we're going to cut it out for tonight.
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