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- 0:28What is going on, everybody?
- 0:30Welcome to the Clydesdale
- 0:32Media Thursday Night CrossFit Talk.
- 0:34Almost said the wrong show
- 0:36title because it's late in the week.
- 0:38I worked out today.
- 0:40Messed with me.
- 0:41Woo!
- 0:42So yeah,
- 0:43we got Carolyn Prevost live from
- 0:45California.
- 0:46We've got Jamie Latimer,
- 0:49hopefully north of the storms.
- 0:51And I am right in Tornado Alley right now.
- 0:55So if my wife shows up in the background,
- 0:58it's because she had to run
- 1:00to the basement.
- 1:00But we are in the middle of
- 1:02tornado watches and
- 1:03warnings all over the state.
- 1:06And there's been a sighting west of here.
- 1:08Oh, no.
- 1:09Oh, no.
- 1:11So hopefully we can get
- 1:11through the night without too much drama.
- 1:16And cool thing that happened
- 1:17to me this week is I have
- 1:19new internet provider.
- 1:20That's what I was going to say.
- 1:22I am now on the AT&T fiber optic lines.
- 1:28I have my own dedicated
- 1:29fiber optic cable and so far so good.
- 1:33The speeds are recording
- 1:34twice as fast as I had with
- 1:36my previous internet service provider.
- 1:39And I have not lagged on any
- 1:40of the shows this week.
- 1:43So that's awesome.
- 1:46Yeah.
- 1:47Awesome stuff.
- 1:50Need to get them to sponsor us.
- 1:54Yeah.
- 1:57So how,
- 1:57how has everybody else's week gone?
- 2:02Good.
- 2:03I finally caught up on a
- 2:04little bit of sleep, but I don't know.
- 2:06Still just busy.
- 2:07Just trying to survive one
- 2:09more week of the open.
- 2:14Carolyn, you traveled?
- 2:16Oh, no.
- 2:16Did she freeze?
- 2:18Maybe.
- 2:20I just bragged about her internet.
- 2:22Carolyn freezes.
- 2:28Is mine good now?
- 2:29Yeah.
- 2:30So how was your week
- 2:32traveling to California?
- 2:33You can go first, Jamie.
- 2:35I did.
- 2:37Yeah.
- 2:40Yeah, Jamie already went.
- 2:43I have a doodle that's
- 2:44looking at my steak right now.
- 2:47Oh, steak sounds wonderful.
- 2:54So like how much
- 2:58I know that your schedule
- 2:59gets really out of whack going west.
- 3:03How much does it help that
- 3:05you're a couple hours ahead
- 3:07normally and then Lex wants
- 3:10to get you up at 4 a.m.
- 3:11to work out?
- 3:13Well,
- 3:14I haven't switched my schedule at all
- 3:17because we go to bed very
- 3:19early around like between 7 and 8.
- 3:22We're already in bed.
- 3:24And then I get to sleep in until...
- 3:28410.
- 3:28She gets up around like 345, 350 maybe,
- 3:33and then prepares the
- 3:35breakfast and gets ready for the day.
- 3:39But I get my extra 20 minutes sleep,
- 3:41but it's like 710 for me.
- 3:43So I just, I'm on my regular routine,
- 3:46which is like a nine or 10
- 3:47o'clock sleep and a six or
- 3:50seven o'clock wake up.
- 3:51So really I just feel no jet
- 3:53lag because I just go right
- 3:55into her routine and it's
- 3:57mixes in with what I already
- 3:59do back home does that help
- 4:02going back because I've
- 4:04never had a problem going
- 4:06west but coming east is
- 4:09where I feel it yeah I mean
- 4:12it's I just go back to the
- 4:14same routine and I guess
- 4:15like I'm not sleeping in
- 4:17until well for her family
- 4:19it's sleeping in if I can
- 4:21sleep until six o'clock
- 4:23they are all they're all early risers um
- 4:26But I get back to my own
- 4:28routine pretty easy just
- 4:30because I never fell off of
- 4:32my regular routine.
- 4:34So the comeback is actually
- 4:35much easier than I would say most people.
- 4:39Yeah.
- 4:40Yeah, I need to.
- 4:41Yeah.
- 4:42I try to stay on the
- 4:43schedule when I go west.
- 4:44It never happens because
- 4:45usually I'm at a CrossFit
- 4:46event and they run late.
- 4:48And so then I end up like
- 4:50not eating until 10 o'clock
- 4:51at night and figuring all that stuff out.
- 4:54But.
- 4:55Yeah.
- 4:57But it's been a good week overall for me.
- 4:59Again, the internet.
- 5:02With that,
- 5:03we had to get new phones because
- 5:04we switched cell service to
- 5:05to get the deal.
- 5:06And none of that is linked to anything.
- 5:09My watch data is not on my phone.
- 5:11I can't figure out how to re link it.
- 5:14All that stuff when you get a new phone.
- 5:17but um I have a doctor's
- 5:19appointment tomorrow I went
- 5:21and worked out today with
- 5:22our listener judy reed um
- 5:24it was fun hanging out with
- 5:25her for the hour um she did
- 5:28awesome and uh yeah really
- 5:32fun today get getting back
- 5:34to the gym and it was a
- 5:36tough workout uh 40 minutes long
- 5:41Not what I was ideally expecting.
- 5:43But what's funny is I
- 5:45reported to Cheryl and she said,
- 5:48you probably only did like four rounds,
- 5:49right?
- 5:50And I said, no, I did all eight.
- 5:52And she said, well,
- 5:53I would have scaled you back to four.
- 5:55And I said, nope, did all eight.
- 5:58So there it is.
- 6:00That's awesome.
- 6:01Good for you.
- 6:03I was super pumped when I
- 6:04saw you post your picture.
- 6:05Lex and I were together and we're like,
- 6:07yes, you went there.
- 6:09I did.
- 6:11There was enough peer
- 6:11pressure in the weight loss
- 6:13show to get me there.
- 6:17But it was cool going with Judy, too,
- 6:18because it was an experience she wanted.
- 6:21Christy is her hero in the CrossFit world.
- 6:25Regretfully, Christy wasn't there,
- 6:26probably prepping for open stuff.
- 6:31but we've already made arrangements.
- 6:33We're going to do it again
- 6:33in a couple of weeks.
- 6:35So we'll get her,
- 6:36we'll get her to meet
- 6:37Christie in the next couple
- 6:38of weeks or so.
- 6:40Awesome.
- 6:42Um, one thing, uh, I have to pump this up.
- 6:45Kenneth says yesterday's interview,
- 6:46chef's kiss.
- 6:48Uh,
- 6:48I always have a blast with Jared Smith.
- 6:51If you don't know that dude
- 6:53is one of the most
- 6:54underrated coaches in the business.
- 6:56He took two athletes to the
- 6:58games last year and also
- 7:00coach Sydney McElishan,
- 7:01who is just outside of
- 7:03making it to the games and
- 7:04has made it to the games twice before.
- 7:07Um,
- 7:08it was a great interview he
- 7:10is just so easy to talk to
- 7:12um just I feel like uh he's
- 7:16just the kind of guy I want
- 7:17to go kind of hang out have
- 7:19a beer or a cup of coffee
- 7:20with and just chat with all
- 7:22the time um but yeah if you
- 7:25didn't catch it yesterday
- 7:26really really fun interview
- 7:29and we talk about cory
- 7:30leonard and his potential
- 7:32to make the games at the
- 7:32age of 50. so check that out too
- 7:37Corey's excited for this one.
- 7:39I think he'll do good at it.
- 7:40It's a good workout for him.
- 7:43Yeah, I can see that.
- 7:47So with that,
- 7:49I guess we'll get into... I
- 8:00didn't say Jodi, did I?
- 8:04I don't think so.
- 8:05I said Judy.
- 8:06I think you said Judy.
- 8:11Okay.
- 8:13All right, cool.
- 8:18So just real quick,
- 8:20I did find two new shows this week.
- 8:22If you have not seen One Mississippi,
- 8:26I'm almost through the
- 8:27first season of that.
- 8:28It's a very interesting take.
- 8:31It's kind of a dark comedy.
- 8:35Really good.
- 8:36With Tig Torrenson...
- 8:41I don't know her last name.
- 8:43She's really funny.
- 8:44She's in a lot of things.
- 8:46It's really good.
- 8:47And then my wife started
- 8:49watching and sucked me in
- 8:50on... It's a flight show.
- 8:56World War II.
- 8:58The main character is the
- 9:00guy who played Elvis.
- 9:02Okay.
- 9:05And it's about how...
- 9:08crazy it was for the pilots
- 9:10and their crews during
- 9:12world war ii being bomber
- 9:13pilots without a lot of um
- 9:17with not a lot of a lot of
- 9:19cover um and that it's
- 9:23really good it's it's a
- 9:24period piece it's a lot
- 9:26more drama um but it did
- 9:28pull me in uh a little bit
- 9:30with that one so and
- 9:33kenneth says yeah that's
- 9:35same people did banner
- 9:36brothers back in the day
- 9:37But it was really good.
- 9:38And Corey, help me out.
- 9:40Tig Notoro.
- 9:41I have not heard of that person.
- 9:45She is hilarious.
- 9:48But it's really,
- 9:49I think it is an
- 9:51autobiographical account of
- 9:54when her mother died and
- 9:55she was going through
- 9:57breast cancer and a double
- 9:59mastectomy at the same time
- 10:01like all of that hit her at
- 10:03one time and how she kind
- 10:05of dealt with it and the
- 10:06quirkiness of her family um
- 10:10through that so it's kind
- 10:11of a dark comedy um there's
- 10:13some funny parts there's
- 10:14some um stuff but it's it's
- 10:17really good and wad zombie
- 10:20help me out it is masters
- 10:21of the air that is the show
- 10:23it's on apple tv um and it's good
- 10:28So now we've got any other
- 10:30TV stuff from any sports going on,
- 10:32Carolyn?
- 10:37I watched a couple of PWHL
- 10:39games again for hockey, of course,
- 10:42supporting my friends.
- 10:45We watched, yeah,
- 10:47last weekend there was the
- 10:48Big Ten Championship, the SEC,
- 10:50a lot of the women's
- 10:51college basketball final
- 10:52conference events.
- 10:54tournaments so um some
- 10:56exciting games there that
- 11:01what's that what happened
- 11:02at the end of the sec
- 11:03championship game with the
- 11:07lsu one yeah competitiveness it happens
- 11:18You watching anything new, Jamie,
- 11:20or are you just resting?
- 11:21I'm still on The Tourist.
- 11:25Okay.
- 11:25I think I got one episode left.
- 11:28Check out Shogun on FX.
- 11:31I actually saw the original
- 11:32Shogun with Richard
- 11:34Chamberlain way back in the day.
- 11:40And Wadzombie comes in with Brothers.
- 11:42The Brother's Son on Netflix is great.
- 11:47So a couple suggestions for
- 11:49reviewing pleasure.
- 11:52And now we got to get to all
- 11:54the news that is CrossFit.
- 11:56And man,
- 11:59I love to bring positive spins to things,
- 12:01but it's going to be tough
- 12:01for a little bit here
- 12:03because we're going to have
- 12:04to be critical.
- 12:06We're going to start by closing out 24.2.
- 12:07And we have to start with
- 12:12the final judgment on
- 12:14scoring that crossfit made
- 12:17that I'm calling the
- 12:17scoring debacle okay on the
- 12:22men's side it was announced
- 12:26that tudor magda received a
- 12:27major penalty of 20 percent
- 12:28um 20 on his score for 24.2
- 12:30taking him out of the lead
- 12:39Um,
- 12:39and giving Heinrich hyperline and the
- 12:41overall victory for 24.2
- 12:43mm-hmm to the best of my recollection,
- 12:47no other person received a
- 12:49penalty on 24.2.
- 12:50Well, Heinrich got one,
- 12:55one missed double under, right?
- 12:57That's correct.
- 13:00But it is quite clear
- 13:02through all the videos out
- 13:03there that tutor was not
- 13:05the only person missing hip
- 13:06extension on the deadlifts.
- 13:10agreed for him to be singled
- 13:13out for this seems to me to
- 13:17be a crime I could not
- 13:20agree more um I have not
- 13:22seen his video so I don't
- 13:24want to get too emphatic
- 13:25about it but I've seen a
- 13:27lot of videos and I've been
- 13:29a judge in this world and
- 13:32many of those deadlifts
- 13:33would not count right that's true
- 13:42But if his aren't going to count,
- 13:43neither should everyone else's.
- 13:45Correct.
- 13:47Right.
- 13:47Correct.
- 13:51He was made out to be the sacrificial lamb,
- 13:52according to Kenneth.
- 13:56I know life is not fair.
- 13:59That is not fair.
- 14:03Whatever happened there,
- 14:04I don't even understand the
- 14:05reasoning behind it,
- 14:07why you would pick one
- 14:07person to do that to and not everybody.
- 14:14It's just so interesting
- 14:15that he could not submit a
- 14:18video and would still be
- 14:20within the top 10, wherever he was,
- 14:22maybe top six or something.
- 14:25And because he submitted,
- 14:26he got penalized.
- 14:27It's crazy.
- 14:33And that takes us to the
- 14:34other half of the debacle.
- 14:36The winner of the women's
- 14:39side of 24.2 was Emily Claw.
- 14:43Emily Claw did not submit a
- 14:45video when asked by CrossFit.
- 14:50The story is,
- 14:51and I don't have confirmation on this,
- 14:53it's just being reported by Hiller,
- 14:57that she redid it on Monday
- 14:59and finished a round short
- 15:02of what her posted score was.
- 15:06She does not have a video,
- 15:09but CrossFit made the
- 15:10decision that because she
- 15:11did an affiliate with a certified judge,
- 15:14her score counts,
- 15:16but she is not eligible for
- 15:17the prize money for winning
- 15:20this phase of the Open.
- 15:25I will let you guys react first,
- 15:28and then I will say what I want to say.
- 15:34This is a problem with
- 15:35affiliates in general.
- 15:37Like we're putting a lot of
- 15:38the blame obviously like on Emily,
- 15:40but affiliate owners
- 15:42validate videos or valid
- 15:44validate scores all the
- 15:46time that are scaled and they,
- 15:48they like they're written
- 15:50as RX and they're scaled
- 15:51and they mess up the leaderboard.
- 15:54Um,
- 15:54I just think a lot of affiliate owners
- 15:55just go except, except,
- 15:57except out of all the
- 15:58scores that they have from
- 15:59their gyms and never
- 16:00actually take the time to
- 16:02look through like I know my
- 16:04affiliate owner he's always
- 16:05going through every single
- 16:06one of them and making sure
- 16:08that the judges line up and
- 16:10everything um yeah so I
- 16:13think that that's the
- 16:14number one issue number two
- 16:15I think there was probably
- 16:16just a miscount for sure in
- 16:18the round just judging by a
- 16:19full round um I think
- 16:22crossfit should give 24
- 16:23hours for to the athlete to
- 16:25provide a video if they can't
- 16:28then it's then they can
- 16:30technically redo the
- 16:31workout in that time.
- 16:32And then whatever they are able to provide,
- 16:35that's the score they're given.
- 16:36Like it doesn't need to be
- 16:37invalidated where she's off
- 16:39the leaderboard,
- 16:40but whatever score she was
- 16:41able to provide, let's say on the Monday,
- 16:44that's, that's what you get.
- 16:45Like it's, it's you forgot to video it.
- 16:49So you don't have that score.
- 16:52Yeah.
- 16:54I could not agree more.
- 16:55Like,
- 16:56I mean,
- 16:57I would think both you and I would
- 16:58say like we could go within
- 17:0124 hours and go repeat what
- 17:02we just did and get within
- 17:0320 reps of what we just did.
- 17:05Like it would not,
- 17:06you would not be a full round off.
- 17:08If you have the capacity to do it,
- 17:09you have the capacity to do it again.
- 17:12There's a difference between like,
- 17:14let's say,
- 17:15let's say you get done the row
- 17:17and then you like some reps
- 17:18are much faster than others.
- 17:19Right.
- 17:19So if you've got a bunch of more reps,
- 17:22it could be like double under reps,
- 17:23but a full round is,
- 17:27that's, that's a lot.
- 17:30It's two minutes about, I mean,
- 17:32about two minutes.
- 17:33Yeah.
- 17:33Yeah.
- 17:35Yeah.
- 17:35You're not losing that kind of time.
- 17:36I mean, it's crazy.
- 17:39I, and I don't know what the sources,
- 17:43I mean, I've said in the past,
- 17:44I think if you're going to
- 17:46like make some people video,
- 17:47I think everyone should
- 17:48video and it should just be
- 17:48the open source judging.
- 17:50It should just all
- 17:51everyone's video should be
- 17:52live on the leaderboard.
- 17:53Um,
- 17:58What she did on her repeat
- 18:02should have been what she
- 18:03entered so that the second
- 18:05place person gets the money.
- 18:09Or the second place person
- 18:10should have got the money.
- 18:11I don't know.
- 18:11If you don't want to take
- 18:12her off the leaderboard,
- 18:15the first person to be able
- 18:16to provide a winning score
- 18:17video should get the money.
- 18:20Absolutely.
- 18:20I'm surprised that the
- 18:22second place athlete
- 18:25I'm surprised that the
- 18:26second place athlete didn't
- 18:27receive the money.
- 18:28Like I would,
- 18:29it would have been who like
- 18:30the first person that
- 18:31provides the video that has
- 18:33legitimate scores.
- 18:35That's who gets the money.
- 18:37Yeah.
- 18:39Corey says I did it on
- 18:40Saturday and again on
- 18:41Sunday and got 60 more prep reps.
- 18:44So I,
- 18:45I don't know anybody that redid that
- 18:47workout that didn't improve.
- 18:48So the fact that she did it
- 18:51rested and did a full round worse is
- 18:54is very fishy.
- 18:56Well, I say that,
- 18:57but Jim didn't improve
- 18:58because of his dubs, but like,
- 18:59he was very, very close.
- 19:00And I mean,
- 19:03unless like something like that
- 19:05is happening,
- 19:05like where somebody doesn't
- 19:06have dubs and didn't have a nine,
- 19:0810 round score in the first place,
- 19:10it's just a dub workout and
- 19:12you have them or you don't that day,
- 19:13but everyone that has dubs
- 19:15improved on this workout.
- 19:17Like you,
- 19:18you figured out how to pace and
- 19:19where to push and you did better.
- 19:21You don't do a round worse.
- 19:23That does not make sense.
- 19:27So I made a public statement
- 19:29on Hiller's post that said,
- 19:31this is setting a precedent
- 19:33where if I am a regionals athlete,
- 19:36I just won't video myself.
- 19:38Hell, take the whole open off.
- 19:41Get somebody to validate my score.
- 19:42And as long as I don't win,
- 19:45nobody will know the wiser.
- 19:49And it makes me believe
- 19:51that's already happening.
- 19:55And as much as you want to
- 19:57think the good in every person,
- 19:59there are so many people
- 20:00out there trying to game the system.
- 20:02You know people are doing that.
- 20:04I think that's been happening for years,
- 20:06Scott.
- 20:07As soon as it was 10% moving
- 20:09on to the next round,
- 20:10they're not looking at the
- 20:11videos at the 10 percentile.
- 20:13As long as you post a score
- 20:15of something that you feel
- 20:17like will be within the 10%
- 20:20and you post at your affiliate,
- 20:22they validate.
- 20:23I feel like that's been
- 20:24going on for years where
- 20:24people can skip the open
- 20:25and then just go to the next stage.
- 20:29It just became obvious to me, I guess.
- 20:33Because of the way the decision went,
- 20:36they did ask for a video.
- 20:39She couldn't supply the video.
- 20:42It's one thing for them never to ask.
- 20:44I get that.
- 20:46They don't have the
- 20:47bandwidth to ask for everybody's video.
- 20:50But in this case,
- 20:51they asked for it and she didn't have it.
- 20:54Like, that's so sus to begin with.
- 21:01And then she redoes it and
- 21:03can't even come close to the score again.
- 21:05And they let it stand anyway.
- 21:13It is a travesty for Hannah Carlson,
- 21:17who could have walked away
- 21:18with a couple grand and
- 21:21didn't because someone...
- 21:24was playing with the rules.
- 21:31And what I think CrossFit's
- 21:35viewpoint on these things
- 21:36are is they look at the
- 21:37individual involved and not
- 21:39the other people it always affects.
- 21:43Yes.
- 21:46And so that's what pisses me off.
- 21:49Yeah.
- 21:50I guess,
- 21:51I guess my question is how does the,
- 21:53I know you have this coming up the first,
- 21:56first, second, third, fourth,
- 21:57fifth in the open at the
- 21:59end of the three weeks, get money.
- 22:01So if Tudor would have said,
- 22:02also said he didn't have a
- 22:04video and he would have
- 22:05stayed at 1000 reps and say
- 22:07he finishes fifth after 0.3,
- 22:12how does that work?
- 22:16Do the top five at the end
- 22:18of point three need to show
- 22:21all three videos to make
- 22:23sure that they really
- 22:25should be the top five overall?
- 22:27I'm very curious on that.
- 22:29Because this is the most
- 22:31money that you can make in
- 22:33the CrossFit season until the games.
- 22:36Right.
- 22:37And this was later in the notes, but...
- 22:40The open has a prize purse.
- 22:42First place gets 15 grand.
- 22:44Second place, 10 grand.
- 22:46Third place, 7,500.
- 22:48Fourth place, six grand.
- 22:50Fifth place, five grand.
- 22:52Ariel said last night on Savan,
- 22:55she tries to win that money.
- 22:58That helps her family out.
- 23:01She bought a golf cart to
- 23:02get around and do some
- 23:04stuff at her house with the
- 23:05money that she won last year.
- 23:07And then it's her goal to do
- 23:09it again this year.
- 23:12yeah and I mean I kind of
- 23:13feel like that maybe was
- 23:14tutor's goal like he's
- 23:16clearly pushing hard um and
- 23:19so that was like just
- 23:20totally stripped from him
- 23:22and I'm curious if he would
- 23:23have said nope I don't have
- 23:23a video how that would have
- 23:26played out at the end of
- 23:28the open yeah like I know
- 23:33for me I look at it
- 23:35Once week one is there,
- 23:36if you have a good score on week one,
- 23:38you're like, all right,
- 23:38if other people aren't
- 23:39going to care about the open, I will.
- 23:41Like,
- 23:41it's like if week one doesn't go well
- 23:44and you're like, okay,
- 23:44I'm out of the running.
- 23:45Then it's like, you're,
- 23:47you're basically like,
- 23:48you're just doing the open.
- 23:50But if you have a good start to the open,
- 23:53it's like, okay, well, let's see where,
- 23:55where you can start pushing
- 23:57and maybe redoing.
- 23:58Yeah.
- 24:01Yeah.
- 24:02Cause even at semifinals,
- 24:03you only make 5,000.
- 24:07To win.
- 24:07I mean, this is triple that.
- 24:13You're on mute, Carolyn.
- 24:16Carolyn, you're on mute.
- 24:18Still on mute.
- 24:20Now you're good.
- 24:21And like all the way until
- 24:231000 for fifth place.
- 24:25And then who knows,
- 24:2612th place might get maybe
- 24:271000 or something.
- 24:30Or a free L1 or L2.
- 24:33I don't know if they even
- 24:33published what the prep
- 24:35payout was last year when
- 24:36they went to 12 people make
- 24:38it or 11 people make it.
- 24:43Yeah.
- 24:43I don't think, I don't,
- 24:45I didn't see any publication on that.
- 24:47I think it was still the five, four, three,
- 24:49two, one.
- 24:51And then you just get your
- 24:52spot to the games.
- 24:54That's what I thought too.
- 24:56Um,
- 24:57I just don't remember seeing it for
- 24:58some reason, but, um,
- 25:04So Carolyn, how did you do on the workout?
- 25:10I was very happy with it.
- 25:12I missed.
- 25:13So I did it the Saturday and
- 25:15then I redid it on the Monday.
- 25:18So the first time I think I
- 25:19missed my double unders three,
- 25:23three rounds, three or four rounds.
- 25:25I changed my setup.
- 25:28So I had the bar,
- 25:29like the triangle style first.
- 25:33And then I switched it
- 25:34because I was turning
- 25:36around to the barbell and
- 25:39then turning back around to
- 25:40my double under because I
- 25:42just wanted to face a wall
- 25:43that no one's in front of.
- 25:45I can focus on my double unders.
- 25:48And I was taking about four steps.
- 25:50Uh-oh.
- 25:59Can you hear me?
- 26:00Yeah, I can now.
- 26:06Is it Scott that's losing?
- 26:07It's you.
- 26:12We have you now.
- 26:16It was like four steps to my
- 26:17skipping rope.
- 26:18Then I ended up moving the
- 26:20barbell more to the outside
- 26:23and then skipping in the middle.
- 26:25I didn't want to do that at
- 26:26first because I felt
- 26:27claustrophobic with my skipping.
- 26:29I need normally a lot of space.
- 26:31That's not the technique I
- 26:33wanted to use at first.
- 26:34Then I started watching
- 26:35videos and I was like I
- 26:36think I can go faster
- 26:37because it was just like
- 26:38one step to my skipping
- 26:39rope so it was a better
- 26:41strategy I saved a lot of
- 26:42time strictly on the
- 26:44transition and then I
- 26:45missed two rounds I think
- 26:47on double unders instead of
- 26:48three um so the first time
- 26:51was 840 so finishing the
- 26:53row and then the other one
- 26:56I got back to the double
- 26:57unders and got like 1500
- 27:00I was happy with it.
- 27:01That's great.
- 27:01Yeah.
- 27:02I think it's the best
- 27:03execution of a double under
- 27:05workout I've had in many, many years.
- 27:08Like I don't remember the
- 27:09last time I did this many 50 unbroken.
- 27:12That's amazing.
- 27:13So I was like very, very happy with it.
- 27:16I did yesterday.
- 27:17Yesterday I had double
- 27:18unders and I couldn't do them.
- 27:21I did the exact same thing with setup,
- 27:23like triangle the first time and,
- 27:26and then the center rope in the center.
- 27:28And I liked that better too.
- 27:36So how did you do overall, Jamie?
- 27:39Me?
- 27:40I got first in my age group.
- 27:44Just first and no emotion.
- 27:50Yeah, that was great.
- 27:51Like I'm happy with that
- 27:52redo that execution.
- 27:54Like I feel like I pushed harder.
- 27:57It was just, yeah,
- 27:58it was a better workout for me.
- 28:02And you finished top 100 overall.
- 28:06Yeah, I guess.
- 28:07I didn't really pay attention to that.
- 28:09Well, I'm just saying.
- 28:12I'm just saying you did.
- 28:14Yeah.
- 28:14I think 97th, 96th,
- 28:16something like that in the
- 28:19world at 40 years old.
- 28:22Not too bad for an old lady.
- 28:24No, not bad at all.
- 28:28So I want to quickly go over
- 28:29some of Holly's stats.
- 28:32She puts all this work and I
- 28:33want to make sure we highlight her.
- 28:35And she comes up with some
- 28:36really cool stuff.
- 28:39So we will start with some master stuff.
- 28:45So here is the Masters Women top five.
- 28:51And the difference.
- 28:56Sure,
- 28:56I'm trying to blow it up a little bit.
- 29:00There we go.
- 29:03So here's women in 35 to 39.
- 29:07You can see it was somewhat tight,
- 29:11but we have Mel Haslam, Emily Lepinen.
- 29:17Mackenzie Riley, Jillian Cook,
- 29:20and Emily DeLay.
- 29:22We go to 40-44.
- 29:23There's our very own Jamie
- 29:24Latimer with the win.
- 29:27Elia Navarro in second.
- 29:29Andrea Pinheiro in third.
- 29:32Leanne Garish and April Andrews.
- 29:36Women 45-49.
- 29:37Jessica Casas.
- 29:39Laura Nielsen.
- 29:41Jenga Gostok.
- 29:43Val Vobrol.
- 29:45Joanna Diener and Luton Kolb
- 29:48and then Sonia McMillan.
- 29:50And those are ties.
- 29:51There were a couple of ties
- 29:52in this division.
- 29:55Women 50 to 54, Lisa Olson,
- 29:58Stephanie China, Virginia Rushing,
- 30:01Carol Mezzin, and Cheryl Brost.
- 30:0455 to 59, Francois Mahir, Tiu Mavir,
- 30:12Christine Mitchell, Yana Istas,
- 30:15Maria Marcolini.
- 30:18A little international flavor there.
- 30:2060 to 64.
- 30:21Lori Meschenik.
- 30:24Man, these are tough.
- 30:27Jeanette Maldonado.
- 30:29Julia Wallace.
- 30:30Rinda Lau.
- 30:31Phyllis Johnson.
- 30:32Lynn Watt.
- 30:34One of our recent interviewees.
- 30:37Elizabeth.
- 30:38And 65 plus.
- 30:40Elizabeth Torablanca.
- 30:43Patricia McGill.
- 30:44Jill Cooper.
- 30:45Teresa McGee.
- 30:46And Martha Carlson.
- 30:50I want to go through the men
- 30:51and then we'll just do some
- 30:53elite overall to finish up.
- 30:57Um, cause last week we did, um,
- 31:00the around the world.
- 31:02So this week we'll just do
- 31:03masters 35 to 39, uh, Travis Mead, Ferris,
- 31:08AA, Frank Graham, David Calbrick,
- 31:12Brendan Willis, and Henry Matthews,
- 31:1440 to 44, James St.
- 31:17Liger, Robert Downton, Sigder,
- 31:21Bross Darson, Michael LaVierre,
- 31:25Jordan Troian,
- 31:28Can't believe Jordan Troian's in his 40s.
- 31:31Seems like yesterday.
- 31:34Kane Haynes.
- 31:36Kane Hayes in the 45 to 49.
- 31:38Robbie Paravich.
- 31:39Matthew Lee.
- 31:40Matthew Pauls.
- 31:42Martin Doust and Matt Horton.
- 31:4550 to 54.
- 31:47Jamie McGarver.
- 31:48David Jones.
- 31:50Nicholas Harbilas.
- 31:53Jonathan Steckbeck.
- 31:55Kenneth Robinson.
- 31:58Bill Grunler wins 55-59.
- 32:03Sig Jorn Insulate.
- 32:05Vic McQuaid.
- 32:06Jody Hendricks.
- 32:08Lemerson Caporale.
- 32:15What's that?
- 32:15Bill did that with the 185 bar, didn't he?
- 32:19Thought I heard him say he
- 32:20didn't want to use the... Yeah,
- 32:23he refuses to use,
- 32:25as he calls the old people,
- 32:26weights that he still
- 32:27can... He still wants to do
- 32:30the regular open weights, which is crazy.
- 32:33Yeah, to win with the heavier weight,
- 32:35that's cruising, dude.
- 32:36That's awesome.
- 32:37Yeah, he's fit.
- 32:38Corey says Bill did that with no warm-up.
- 32:41The row is the warm-up.
- 32:42Right.
- 32:42Um...
- 32:50So men's 60, 64 Antonio Marcos Alves,
- 32:54Leo Zavala, Morton Sonner, Skov,
- 32:57Stefano Antonelli, Shannon Aiken,
- 33:00Murray house, Mark Anderson,
- 33:03and then finishing up with
- 33:0465 plus Calvin Charrington,
- 33:07Carlos Del Rio, Callum McKinley,
- 33:10Steven Becker and Brian Heinlein.
- 33:15All right.
- 33:17And then we'll just go to
- 33:20one interesting thing I
- 33:22thought she posted.
- 33:23That's 24.1.
- 33:25All right, here's worldwide men and women.
- 33:42There's what we talked about early.
- 33:44Emily Claw, Hannah Carlson, Grace Walton,
- 33:47Ariel Loewen, and Ashley Engel.
- 33:52And then we won't go through
- 33:53the countries this time.
- 33:59Everything had an international flavor.
- 34:01And then, man, we had Heinrich Koppelainen,
- 34:04Dallin Pepper, Yonikowski, Travis Meade,
- 34:06Jeff Adler, Saxon Pancheck,
- 34:08and Roman Krennikoff.
- 34:10Anything stick out to you in
- 34:12those top fives?
- 34:15Travis coming from the 35 to 39.
- 34:18That sticks out to me.
- 34:20That's huge.
- 34:22Yonikoski sticks out to me.
- 34:24I did not envision this
- 34:26being a workout for him.
- 34:30He likes the longer workouts, doesn't he?
- 34:32it's the power output of the road,
- 34:34you know,
- 34:35as a real workout in the elite area.
- 34:37I just, I didn't see that coming.
- 34:39It's the speed of the double unders too.
- 34:41It that's a mate.
- 34:42It's a transition.
- 34:44The speed of the double
- 34:45under is a major factor and transitions.
- 34:48Like if you're able to just
- 34:49one foot into the row or start pulling.
- 34:52And like, I watched,
- 34:52I think this Dallin Dallin
- 34:54speed of his double unders was so fast.
- 34:57Same with like Tudor.
- 34:58Like if you're just able to
- 34:59barely jump off, off the ground, like,
- 35:02You're saving time.
- 35:03I know when I do double unders,
- 35:04like I jump pretty high and
- 35:07I'm always behind people.
- 35:08Well, I'm always behind people naturally,
- 35:10but even more so just on my
- 35:12cycle speed of that.
- 35:16So then we go to today and.
- 35:21How's the answer, Ken?
- 35:23We are in 82nd and I think
- 35:26the cut is like 85,
- 35:27so we got to hold on this week.
- 35:36Um, so then we moved to today.
- 35:38Uh, we talked,
- 35:41I'm sure it's been talked about all day,
- 35:43one hour before showtime today,
- 35:46it appeared that the
- 35:47workout was made public on
- 35:50the YouTube site for CrossFit.
- 35:52Um, and Jamie, you had a good point.
- 35:55You thought maybe it was, uh,
- 35:58I think it was daylight savings time.
- 36:01I think a month or two months ago,
- 36:03somebody set these up or
- 36:04three weeks ago for 3 p.m., noon,
- 36:07whatever it is, whatever you're at,
- 36:093 p.m.
- 36:09for me.
- 36:10I think they set it up for 3 p.m.
- 36:11each week and didn't account for daylight.
- 36:15Because it was like 2
- 36:15o'clock that it came out.
- 36:18So that's what I feel like happened.
- 36:20For sure.
- 36:21That's a great point.
- 36:23I think that's what happened.
- 36:26You know what I think is
- 36:26funny about that is
- 36:29The PFAA put out a warning
- 36:30to the athletes.
- 36:32Don't forget about daylight
- 36:33savings time because two years ago,
- 36:37there was a big fiasco in
- 36:38Europe where people
- 36:40submitted their scores an
- 36:42hour late because of
- 36:44daylight savings time and, uh,
- 36:46missed their opportunity for the games.
- 36:50So I think that's kind of funny.
- 36:52Um, but it's okay when CrossFit does,
- 36:55it's just not okay when the
- 36:56athlete does it.
- 36:57Right.
- 37:00So it came out.
- 37:03It was correct.
- 37:05They did have it right of what it was.
- 37:08And so when the announcement came,
- 37:11it kind of took a little
- 37:12bit of the zest out of the
- 37:16announcement when you already knew.
- 37:18As soon as I saw the whiteboard,
- 37:20I was like, okay,
- 37:20I don't need to watch Jocko
- 37:23do the rest because I already know.
- 37:26Okay, but why wasn't Jocko there?
- 37:28You don't need to guess.
- 37:31He was there.
- 37:33Oh,
- 37:33I thought that that was like a video
- 37:36filmed.
- 37:38Oh.
- 37:39That was a video filmed.
- 37:41He wasn't actually live there.
- 37:43Right.
- 37:44And there was stuff written
- 37:45on the board on the other side,
- 37:46like his own workout.
- 37:48He couldn't even erase off
- 37:50the board before even explaining.
- 37:52I wish he would have been there live to...
- 37:55to do it.
- 37:55Yeah.
- 37:56That is weird.
- 37:57I actually stopped watching
- 37:58cause the feed was so bad.
- 38:00Like it kept freezing.
- 38:01I couldn't even deal with it.
- 38:03Um, and I was driving,
- 38:04but it was awful once again.
- 38:08Yeah.
- 38:08It, so let's talk about that.
- 38:11Like, so you have Jocko not live, um,
- 38:16in a packed house,
- 38:19swap out Seth Rollins live
- 38:22in that building this week.
- 38:25whole different kind of
- 38:26thing no you have on video
- 38:30jocko and it's already
- 38:32written on the board and he
- 38:33just walks over and reads
- 38:35the board like I know he
- 38:38paid the sponsor this week
- 38:41and so that's money in the
- 38:43pocket of crossfit but man
- 38:48That's been my issue with other.
- 38:50It's not that I think Dave
- 38:51is the best at doing the announcements,
- 38:53but everybody that they
- 38:54brought in to do it other than him,
- 38:57other than Seth Rollins has
- 38:58not brought the punch.
- 39:02Like there are people that
- 39:03could bring the punch.
- 39:05You just got to bring the
- 39:05right people in to do it.
- 39:08Hmm.
- 39:11And Jason, and it's in the chat, but,
- 39:14and Jason CrossFit Media,
- 39:15I was watching his take on it.
- 39:18He made a great point.
- 39:19It's too late to get open
- 39:21signups weeks two and three.
- 39:23Like if you're bringing an
- 39:24outsider in to do it,
- 39:26it should be week one.
- 39:28That's when you want other
- 39:30people from around the
- 39:31sport to come in and sign
- 39:34up and do this thing in the
- 39:35open and see what it's all about.
- 39:39Lex had suggested too that
- 39:42let's say like when he does
- 39:43the announcement like
- 39:44people would they would
- 39:45like rank out a way bigger
- 39:46place than obviously the
- 39:47Shred Shed and that people
- 39:49could sign up to do the
- 39:51workout after like the
- 39:52elites and pay a certain
- 39:54money and meet you know
- 39:56Seth Rollins and stuff and
- 39:58kind of generate even more
- 39:59revenue and bring people
- 40:01from maybe his side of the
- 40:02community with wrestling
- 40:04and just to try that first
- 40:06one with the burpees like
- 40:06that's when you could have
- 40:08For sure,
- 40:08use that and then allow people to
- 40:10play too and pay a fee.
- 40:12Even if it's like $10,
- 40:13$20 to get judged there and
- 40:16you do a bunch of heats.
- 40:17I thought that was a good
- 40:17idea also by Lex.
- 40:21I've been to two announcements myself.
- 40:24When the announcement's over,
- 40:26the barricades come down,
- 40:27you can walk over and talk to
- 40:29whoever it is that's doing
- 40:31the announcement.
- 40:32And I'm sure Seth would have
- 40:33been the same way.
- 40:34And there aren't those
- 40:37opportunities when you go
- 40:38to a WWE event because it's
- 40:41in a big arena with 50,000 people.
- 40:44You don't have the
- 40:44opportunity to get that close to Seth.
- 40:47This would have been an
- 40:48opportunity to get people
- 40:49who wanted to meet Seth
- 40:51Rollins to come to a live
- 40:53announcement and get to check it out.
- 40:58So yeah, I thought today was lackluster.
- 41:03One, the workout was announced.
- 41:05It was videoed.
- 41:06It wasn't even live.
- 41:08And you talk about the freezes.
- 41:10What really annoyed me is
- 41:11they'd come back from the
- 41:12freeze and the announcers
- 41:14wouldn't even mention it was frozen.
- 41:16Right.
- 41:17Like they just kept going.
- 41:18Like nothing happened.
- 41:19Like,
- 41:22shouldn't we get a like,
- 41:23sorry for the technical issues.
- 41:25We think we have them corrected.
- 41:27We're going to move on.
- 41:29No, it's just like,
- 41:30welcome to proven headquarters.
- 41:33Like it was a brand new start.
- 41:37I don't know.
- 41:39I was, I was bummed.
- 41:43I still think that this kind
- 41:44of stuff has been going on
- 41:45for years and people are like, Oh,
- 41:47you know, when Dave's going to be back,
- 41:48you know, nothing's like this can happen.
- 41:51But,
- 41:51It's been like this for years.
- 41:53Literally when Dave was there,
- 41:54when he was gone,
- 41:55like there's been mess ups
- 41:57and it's just more in the
- 41:58spotlight now because
- 41:59there's more people doing
- 42:00like the media part of it
- 42:02and really waiting for
- 42:04CrossFit to mess up.
- 42:05But there's always been
- 42:06stuff like I saw and I was like, oh yeah.
- 42:09I mean, one hour difference is, I mean,
- 42:12for the open, it didn't matter as much.
- 42:13It would be worse, I guess, if it was,
- 42:15I don't know, some sort of,
- 42:19quarterfinal workout and
- 42:21then certain regions can
- 42:22actually do the workout on
- 42:23the first day versus when
- 42:24they're sleeping at night
- 42:25and they don't get that
- 42:26extra hour to know about
- 42:27the workout like that's
- 42:29when it would matter maybe
- 42:29more but for the open I was
- 42:31like okay like yeah moving on
- 42:36So I, I talked to Boz about that.
- 42:37Right.
- 42:38And his response was great.
- 42:39Like he thinks people
- 42:41romanticize the past.
- 42:43He's like, I've, I lived it.
- 42:45It wasn't all gravy.
- 42:47Like it was,
- 42:48there were some bad moments in
- 42:49that time and people
- 42:51romanticize what went on in the past.
- 42:55Um, and, and he just says,
- 42:58ask for patience, but my gosh, we're like,
- 43:01we're getting like 17 years
- 43:02into this thing.
- 43:05Like we should be trying to figure it out.
- 43:09Yeah.
- 43:10Uh-huh.
- 43:13But I still love this sport.
- 43:15I still love, um, doing,
- 43:19I love everything about this sport.
- 43:22And I, I, even though they mess up,
- 43:25I'll still be coming back
- 43:26and cheering away and, and,
- 43:28and cheering for the
- 43:30athletes that I love and
- 43:31all of that stuff.
- 43:32So, um,
- 43:34The other things we had to talk about is,
- 43:36one, I think Proven put on a great show.
- 43:38It was really well designed
- 43:43to be able to get the crowd
- 43:47really close and right up to the action.
- 43:52And having to pivot from Tia's injury.
- 43:56So let's talk about that.
- 43:57It was supposed to be Tia versus Ariel.
- 44:00Tia announces on Monday that
- 44:03she can't do the workout
- 44:04because of her wrist,
- 44:06and she won't be able to
- 44:07give the fans the show they deserve.
- 44:10So they pivot,
- 44:11bring in Roman from Cookville.
- 44:14Jay Crouch is at Proven.
- 44:15He flew in Monday just by chance,
- 44:19and Sydney works out there anyway.
- 44:21So they put together this
- 44:22foursome instead of Tia versus Ariel.
- 44:26Were you happy with that?
- 44:30Yeah.
- 44:31I like that.
- 44:32I like that.
- 44:32There's two guys, two girls.
- 44:35Um,
- 44:35I was surprised that they wouldn't have
- 44:38picked their top athlete
- 44:41from the open right now.
- 44:42It's Maddie Sturt.
- 44:43I don't know if she's
- 44:44already there or not.
- 44:45She's Jay's girlfriend or whatever,
- 44:48or Sydney McElishan would
- 44:50have been also a really
- 44:51good call because she's one
- 44:52of the best pullers in CrossFit.
- 44:55Um,
- 44:57I think she would have given
- 44:58a good battle as well.
- 45:00But I thought Sydney
- 45:01performed pretty well today.
- 45:02Actually, much better than I thought.
- 45:04She paced it very well.
- 45:06I was impressed by her.
- 45:07She did incredible.
- 45:09Much better than I thought.
- 45:10Yeah.
- 45:12I was shocked.
- 45:13I was so happy for her, actually.
- 45:18I feel a little bad for Ariel because...
- 45:21whatever.
- 45:22I don't know if going into
- 45:23it when she was like going to face Tia,
- 45:25if she, I mean,
- 45:26we know that she has the
- 45:27ability in the right workout to beat Tia.
- 45:29Um, but she talked about that.
- 45:30Like she wanted,
- 45:31she was hoping to win the golden barbell.
- 45:33And I don't feel like,
- 45:35I feel like the top men's time this week,
- 45:38same kind of as last week,
- 45:39like the women aren't going
- 45:40to be as competitive as the men.
- 45:44Like,
- 45:44I don't feel like Ariel had a shot
- 45:45against the men.
- 45:46So she kind of didn't have a
- 45:47shot at the golden barbell
- 45:48and that's sort of sucks.
- 45:49Yeah.
- 45:50She may not win the golden barbell,
- 45:51but she's a rogue athlete,
- 45:53so I think she's the ultimate winner.
- 45:56Is she a rogue athlete?
- 45:58She is.
- 45:58It got announced today that
- 45:59she's a rogue athlete.
- 46:00Wow.
- 46:01I think that's a better
- 46:02prize if you ask me.
- 46:04Maybe I'll give her one.
- 46:07That's awesome.
- 46:08That was like a bucket list thing for her,
- 46:10so I'm glad that that happened.
- 46:12I missed the announcement.
- 46:16Breaking news from Carolyn Prevost.
- 46:19ariel is now a rogue athlete
- 46:22dan's got a point here you
- 46:25want to read that here's
- 46:27the thing that irks me tia
- 46:31won't do the announcement
- 46:32because of the injury but
- 46:33did say she won't do the
- 46:37didn't say she won't do the
- 46:38event at all maybe she'll
- 46:39do the old oops I forgot to
- 46:41film it it's just the open
- 46:45Well, she'll film it probably.
- 46:47You'll just be from the back.
- 46:50Yeah.
- 46:51And we'll get clips of it.
- 46:52If there's someone that
- 46:53could crush this workout healthy,
- 46:55it would be Tia though.
- 46:57Oh gosh.
- 46:59If she was healthy for this workout,
- 47:01like I just think about her
- 47:02and Matt doing the friendly
- 47:06Fran from the open or from
- 47:09the CrossFit Games 2020 season online.
- 47:13And I mean,
- 47:17She would crush this one.
- 47:20She still can.
- 47:21I don't know at what point
- 47:23or how much she'll be able
- 47:24to push on Monday when she does it.
- 47:27She's going to video it
- 47:28because there's too many
- 47:29eyes that want to make sure she did it.
- 47:34But my thing about the golden barbell is
- 47:38You only had to make six.
- 47:40How much more would it have
- 47:42been for you to make two more?
- 47:44And then in the week one,
- 47:45in the week three,
- 47:47you give the men and the women each one.
- 47:49Yep.
- 47:50Like two barbells.
- 47:52Come on, Rogue.
- 47:55Especially that some workouts,
- 47:56like you said, Jamie, like some workouts,
- 47:57like the workout of the row,
- 47:59a girl will never win that against a guy.
- 48:02Never.
- 48:03So if you had a matchup that
- 48:04had two girls and two guys,
- 48:06like you're not going to.
- 48:08most likely win as a female.
- 48:12I like that idea of one
- 48:14winner for the guys,
- 48:15one winner for the girls.
- 48:16Because we end the season
- 48:17with all three winners being men.
- 48:22And that sucks.
- 48:24This sport is just as
- 48:25popular with the women as
- 48:27it is with the men.
- 48:29They get equal pay at the games.
- 48:31They should be treated as
- 48:31equals in this regard as well.
- 48:39Um, so then the workout was announced.
- 48:44What are your thoughts on the workout?
- 48:49I think they needed to pick
- 48:52a lane and stick with it.
- 48:54Um,
- 48:55I know you don't think that there
- 48:56should be a scaled of the open.
- 48:59Um,
- 49:00but like my members so far have been
- 49:04loving the open and I
- 49:05already have some very,
- 49:06very disappointed members.
- 49:08posting on Facebook that this is like,
- 49:12they just don't even want
- 49:13to come participate.
- 49:13It's catering to elites.
- 49:16They can't even do the scaled version.
- 49:20And so like I have to pivot
- 49:22and create a whole separate
- 49:24workout for our gym, for our members.
- 49:27It's just, it's frustrating.
- 49:29Like,
- 49:29I think there should be a level of like,
- 49:32we're trying to get you to this movement.
- 49:35But yeah,
- 49:38you've gone from like fully
- 49:39inclusive to not inclusive at all.
- 49:44But the scaled version has a
- 49:45jumping chest to bar and
- 49:47then just a chin over the bar pull up.
- 49:49So it's not like it's people
- 49:51can still try to get their first pull up.
- 49:54The weights a little bit lower.
- 49:55Like it's still,
- 49:57I think the scaled version is,
- 49:59is a good version for most
- 50:00of the community.
- 50:03Yeah.
- 50:04She's digging on me.
- 50:05Cause I had a take that I didn't,
- 50:07I thought I should.
- 50:08I was with her online.
- 50:10I was in support of her that
- 50:12I feel like skilled is important.
- 50:15Um, I think there's something that you,
- 50:17for everyone.
- 50:18I mean,
- 50:18I do see that it's almost like
- 50:20there's two different opens right now,
- 50:21right?
- 50:22Weeks one and two.
- 50:23And then week three is like,
- 50:25thanks for playing this.
- 50:27I mean,
- 50:27if you look at the time cap 15
- 50:28minutes and you look at
- 50:29someone like Sydney Wells,
- 50:31and Ariel and Roman in the 10 minutes,
- 50:34I started thinking, well,
- 50:36these are games athletes in 10,
- 50:39almost 11 minutes.
- 50:40Will that many people finish
- 50:45the workout at 15?
- 50:47I don't, I don't think so,
- 50:48but I think a lot of people
- 50:49will post scaled scores and
- 50:52get it validated by the
- 50:53affiliate owners again.
- 50:55And more of the leaderboard
- 50:57stuff will happen because it,
- 50:58because a lot of people
- 50:59will do it scaled and then,
- 51:01don't know how to log and that's yeah.
- 51:04Like another issue.
- 51:06Yeah.
- 51:06The workout self.
- 51:07I mean,
- 51:07I personally like it much better
- 51:10than week two.
- 51:11I like Fran.
- 51:13How many,
- 51:14how many people do you think will
- 51:16take the minute rest out of their time?
- 51:21Yeah.
- 51:22People will take that.
- 51:23People will substitute that for sure.
- 51:24Yeah.
- 51:24A hundred percent.
- 51:25I don't think about that.
- 51:26Yeah.
- 51:27i don't think that this is a
- 51:29open friendly workout this
- 51:30is a great quarterfinals
- 51:31workout this is not an open
- 51:33friendly for the masses
- 51:34workout I'm sorry like
- 51:37people are just idiots I i
- 51:40do agree with you on this
- 51:41one it doesn't make sense
- 51:43with what they've already
- 51:44programmed yeah it seems
- 51:46like two different people
- 51:48programmed weeks one and
- 51:49two and then week three was
- 51:51You know, it was said, like,
- 51:52the open is going to be we
- 51:53want people that we can
- 51:54drag off the street and
- 51:56come in and do these things
- 51:58and become part of the community.
- 52:00This is not that.
- 52:04Someone off the street doing
- 52:05a thruster with no front
- 52:07rack mobility is going to
- 52:09kill themselves.
- 52:12Well, no.
- 52:13I've been there.
- 52:16I mean,
- 52:16if they're going right off the streets,
- 52:18I think that you should still,
- 52:20that's someone that could go scaled.
- 52:21I don't think you should be
- 52:23forcing someone off the
- 52:24street that they have to be
- 52:25able to do the RX.
- 52:26I don't agree with that.
- 52:28I think someone off the
- 52:29street can do most things RX.
- 52:32But that anyone could come
- 52:34off the streets with zero
- 52:36training and will just get
- 52:37on the thruster of 95 pounds?
- 52:38No.
- 52:40They're scaled.
- 52:41Or foundation.
- 52:42If they have zero experience,
- 52:43they're foundationed.
- 52:46I even find jumping
- 52:47chest-to-bar to be extremely difficult.
- 52:50Well, that's what I'm saying.
- 52:51I have a ton of members who
- 52:53cannot do a jumping chest-to-bar,
- 52:57let alone a pull-up.
- 52:59They're not even going to
- 53:00get through the jump.
- 53:01I have to change the workout.
- 53:05Yeah.
- 53:07Again, I don't mean to be negative,
- 53:09but it just doesn't make sense.
- 53:13Because like you guys were saying,
- 53:17who's going to make it through.
- 53:18If you look at the community
- 53:20heat that went ahead,
- 53:21Rachel Skinner was a teen
- 53:24athlete at the games and
- 53:28she didn't finish.
- 53:29She missed by two reps.
- 53:31Like,
- 53:31and she was humming in that first
- 53:33round and it all just went away.
- 53:36She may have went out too hot.
- 53:38And she was really good at bar muscle ups.
- 53:40Like,
- 53:42Like, it just was,
- 53:44she was so fatigued by the end.
- 53:48And it wasn't technique.
- 53:49Like, she was, I don't know.
- 53:54And then 95 seemed really heavy for her.
- 53:59The 95 is very heavy for me.
- 54:03Yeah, a few years ago, they had 85 pounds,
- 54:06I think, if I remember correctly.
- 54:09And then that one had a
- 54:11gymnastics progression,
- 54:12but it had the double unders in between.
- 54:14I remember that.
- 54:15Cause I just kept tripping.
- 54:17Yeah.
- 54:19Yeah.
- 54:19That was the one that went.
- 54:2095 is a big difference for a
- 54:21lot of people.
- 54:23Yeah.
- 54:25Did that one go total bar
- 54:27chest to bar bar muscle up
- 54:28or was it pull up chest to
- 54:30bar bar muscle ups?
- 54:31I think it was like something like 21, 18,
- 54:3415.
- 54:35And then the double unders
- 54:36was like double the reps or
- 54:38double or triple the reps
- 54:39or something like that.
- 54:41Yeah.
- 54:43That one, I remember that one, that one.
- 54:45And that one went,
- 54:47is that the one that went
- 54:48right into the lift?
- 54:50No, that one was 22, 20, 20,
- 54:5621.3 and four.
- 54:58Oh yeah.
- 54:5821 points.
- 54:59Yeah.
- 54:59Yeah.
- 54:59That's the one that one had front squats,
- 55:02toes to bars.
- 55:02That one had a rest as well in between.
- 55:07And that one went toe to bar, chest to bar,
- 55:09bar muscle up.
- 55:10I think so.
- 55:11That one, yeah.
- 55:14I'm surprised no toes to bar.
- 55:17I was surprised there was no.
- 55:18I thought we'd see toes to bar this week.
- 55:19That's one of the movements
- 55:21that's like a staple.
- 55:22That and double unders.
- 55:25I thought we'd see toes to bar this week.
- 55:28Me too.
- 55:31Oh, is there a tornado coming?
- 55:32There is a tornado coming.
- 55:33So you did see my wife in
- 55:35the corner of your screen,
- 55:37but she is and we're live
- 55:39on the air and she's saying
- 55:40hi to everybody.
- 55:41It's really bad.
- 55:47It's very, very.
- 55:48Oh, no.
- 55:48So there is a massive storm
- 55:50cell coming right at us.
- 55:53So her and the dog are now
- 55:54down here in the basement.
- 55:56So if you hear any of that stuff,
- 55:57that's why.
- 56:01So now that we have the
- 56:02thoughts on the workout,
- 56:05when are we doing it?
- 56:08So I already did it.
- 56:11We saving that for Sunday night?
- 56:16No, Haley and I already did it.
- 56:18I know,
- 56:18but are we saving your results till
- 56:20Sunday night?
- 56:21Correct.
- 56:22Yes.
- 56:23Okay.
- 56:25I'm going to do it tomorrow
- 56:26morning and then possibly next
- 56:29at my affiliate on Monday.
- 56:33If I feel like I can finish
- 56:34within the top five,
- 56:36I'm already doing that for sure.
- 56:39This is a good workout for me, I think.
- 56:41And you're flying back to Canada.
- 56:43I fly back Sunday.
- 56:44I leave here Sunday morning at 7 a.m.
- 56:47710 from San Francisco.
- 56:49So really,
- 56:49really early because it's about
- 56:51an hour away.
- 56:52I'll be home in Toronto at
- 56:54like 330 in the afternoon.
- 56:56And then I work Monday
- 56:57because I go back to work on Monday.
- 56:59So I would do it after work on Monday.
- 57:03If I, if I'm not too sore from it.
- 57:09Uh,
- 57:10Dan church has an opinion and that is
- 57:12there needs to be a thing
- 57:13other than work capacity to
- 57:15challenge someone.
- 57:16If that's a chin over the bar.
- 57:18So be it.
- 57:19I love this workout.
- 57:19People should embrace
- 57:20adversity to allow themselves to grow.
- 57:23That was a lot of my
- 57:24argument about they should
- 57:25get rid of the scale division.
- 57:27Um,
- 57:30I just, it doesn't, if that's the case,
- 57:33then the whole open should
- 57:35be written in that way.
- 57:37Not just the last event.
- 57:40Um,
- 57:44And I don't disagree with,
- 57:46I do like these like progressive, like,
- 57:48hey, maybe you do get your first pull up.
- 57:50I think starting the scaled
- 57:52with jumping chest to bar
- 57:53is slightly too advanced.
- 57:55Like just a jumping pull up to start,
- 57:57I think would have been a great,
- 57:59like way more inclusive.
- 58:00Like let's get everyone
- 58:01through this first five
- 58:02rounds and then let's see
- 58:04what you can do.
- 58:05like if you get a pull up
- 58:06cool you pass all the rest
- 58:08of those people if you
- 58:09don't get one at least you
- 58:10tried um I just think it
- 58:12was a little aggressive of
- 58:13a start for what we've seen
- 58:15for the open so far uh
- 58:17fellow fellow teacher
- 58:18jeffrey birchfield uh
- 58:20carolyn are you on spring
- 58:21break yeah I get a week off
- 58:25um from school but spring
- 58:28break but I mean I've still
- 58:29done some math corrections
- 58:30throughout the break I
- 58:32gotta finish them um
- 58:34because they had a test
- 58:35before the break just so
- 58:36that they can start fresh in your unit.
- 58:37So I'm off,
- 58:39but still doing a little bit of work.
- 58:41I don't know if he's just jealous or what,
- 58:43but.
- 58:46um okay so uh heat one I'm
- 58:50I'm getting slaughtered um
- 58:53me too so I we'll skip that
- 58:56part um I do want to talk
- 58:59about the comp that we did
- 59:00briefly a little bit we
- 59:02talked about sydney and how
- 59:04she did way better than we
- 59:06thought um ariel and then
- 59:09jay crouch let's talk about
- 59:11him for one second that
- 59:13dude is going nowhere
- 59:15Like, he is legit here to stay.
- 59:19And he demolished that workout.
- 59:23Do you think his score will stand?
- 59:27Noah has 830.
- 59:30So, no.
- 59:31I think his score is great.
- 59:34But people will look at that
- 59:36and strategize differently.
- 59:37because they saw that they
- 59:39kind of broke down towards
- 59:40the end and had to break
- 59:41their bar muscles,
- 59:42people will pick apart that
- 59:45first attempt and will for
- 59:47sure beat his score.
- 59:49I won't be surprised to see a low eight.
- 59:52MJ was nine.
- 59:55What's that?
- 59:55He got 913.
- 59:57Noah got 830 already.
- 59:59I think Noah will have one
- 1:00:00of the top scores,
- 1:00:00but I think someone like
- 1:00:02Colton will crush this.
- 1:00:06Do you think...
- 1:00:09okay yeah colton's gonna
- 1:00:10kill it oh yeah like his
- 1:00:12grip strength is unmatched
- 1:00:14and his range of motion is
- 1:00:16so small for the thrusters
- 1:00:18the the one thing is if
- 1:00:19he's doing it at crossfit
- 1:00:21charlotte I think um the
- 1:00:24bars might be you know a
- 1:00:25different height than what
- 1:00:26he's used to at home so if
- 1:00:27he's having to jump a
- 1:00:28little bit higher his score
- 1:00:30may not be as good as if he
- 1:00:32had the perfect height of
- 1:00:33the barbell because I don't
- 1:00:34think they're gonna be
- 1:00:34adjusting that barbell or that bar
- 1:00:37um for him like some
- 1:00:38affiliates do matt or riser
- 1:00:40but yeah it's still awkward
- 1:00:43but I think he'll still
- 1:00:44smash it um so kenneth is
- 1:00:49actually in the 300s that's
- 1:00:50a couple hundred better
- 1:00:51than me jeffrey birchfield
- 1:00:53is in 65th which is what
- 1:00:55he's over the moon
- 1:00:59I haven't been messing with my picks.
- 1:01:02I just put them in on
- 1:01:03Tuesday or whatever and I
- 1:01:04don't change them even after the workout.
- 1:01:08Scott,
- 1:01:08I've been told by Lex to just remind
- 1:01:10you that she's ahead of you.
- 1:01:12It won't take much on this one.
- 1:01:18We'll be back.
- 1:01:19We'll be back at quarters.
- 1:01:22I'm in 584.
- 1:01:22It doesn't matter.
- 1:01:26Are you beating me?
- 1:01:28I have no idea.
- 1:01:31i looked at my number and I
- 1:01:32was like I don't I should I
- 1:01:33even bring it up tonight um
- 1:01:38I am I'm not ashamed I am
- 1:01:41408th actually oh you're
- 1:01:43kicking my butt all right
- 1:01:45then I'm happy now I just
- 1:01:47gotta catch lex all right
- 1:01:54Jamie and the team.
- 1:01:55So we're going to do the
- 1:01:56Sunday night show.
- 1:01:57You and Haley have already gone.
- 1:02:00Um, the rest of the team going Sunday.
- 1:02:03Yes.
- 1:02:05Um, actually, well, Jeff,
- 1:02:07Jeff will go tomorrow as
- 1:02:08rise is going to do it at home tomorrow.
- 1:02:12And then we'll go on Sunday.
- 1:02:15Well, Haley's gone.
- 1:02:16She's flying out tomorrow.
- 1:02:17So that's why we did it tonight.
- 1:02:19Um,
- 1:02:21So I'll probably go with
- 1:02:22Arizona on Sunday and maybe redo it.
- 1:02:26Or I'll wait until Monday.
- 1:02:27Is there something major
- 1:02:28that you would change from
- 1:02:29your first attempt?
- 1:02:31It was awful.
- 1:02:32It was terrible.
- 1:02:33I hated the whole thing.
- 1:02:34It was so awful.
- 1:02:35Is that a hard combination for you?
- 1:02:38Thrusters and chest to bar
- 1:02:40are literally my worst things.
- 1:02:45Like, thank God for the bar muscle-up.
- 1:02:49But...
- 1:02:50Yeah.
- 1:02:51And it was not great on my
- 1:02:53shoulder if I'm being honest.
- 1:02:55Yeah, for sure.
- 1:02:58I don't know.
- 1:02:59I just need to write.
- 1:03:00I don't know what I need to do.
- 1:03:02Like the barbells heavy for me.
- 1:03:05Um, I felt like I took tons of rest.
- 1:03:07I don't know.
- 1:03:08Suck it up and try to push a
- 1:03:10little quicker, I guess.
- 1:03:11I don't know.
- 1:03:14Yeah.
- 1:03:14Corey,
- 1:03:15I'd rather do bar muscle ups than
- 1:03:16chest to bar any day of the week as well.
- 1:03:19Well,
- 1:03:19especially if your team is that close
- 1:03:21to the cutoff,
- 1:03:22you're going to have to probably redo it.
- 1:03:25I know.
- 1:03:27You have nothing to lose.
- 1:03:29I mean,
- 1:03:31I don't know how the other members
- 1:03:32will do.
- 1:03:34Well, I need the men to step up this week.
- 1:03:36I've carried the team the last two weeks.
- 1:03:39I need the men to have a good score.
- 1:03:40Yeah, for sure.
- 1:03:44all right so let's move on
- 1:03:47to some news and we'll
- 1:03:50close out the show so we
- 1:03:52talked about it sunday
- 1:03:53night but it was announced
- 1:03:54over the weekend that ellie
- 1:03:55announced she is sitting
- 1:03:57the season out um caroline
- 1:03:59didn't get to your opinion
- 1:04:00on this I think live you
- 1:04:02may have put it in the chat
- 1:04:04but ellie is sitting out
- 1:04:05the season any thoughts not surprised
- 1:04:11I thought I like kind of
- 1:04:12just saw this coming.
- 1:04:13I think you could see physically,
- 1:04:18she may have been, you know, 80%, 85%,
- 1:04:22but there was still some
- 1:04:23stuff when you look at
- 1:04:23Justin's channel that she
- 1:04:25wasn't always doing the
- 1:04:26same thing as him.
- 1:04:27I don't know if they have
- 1:04:28the same program or not,
- 1:04:29but something there.
- 1:04:31And then, like she said, like mentally,
- 1:04:33I think that it's been hard on her.
- 1:04:35I think being away from home,
- 1:04:36like there's just not,
- 1:04:38having probably her
- 1:04:38exemption and just other
- 1:04:40things probably going on in
- 1:04:41her life and pressures so
- 1:04:43um it's probably a mixture
- 1:04:45of many many different
- 1:04:47things that she hasn't even
- 1:04:48talked about in social
- 1:04:49media so I mean not not
- 1:04:54super surprised but
- 1:04:58hopefully hopefully she
- 1:04:59gets back into it like like
- 1:05:01she said she said later in
- 1:05:01this year so maybe she'll be looking at
- 1:05:05waterpalooza california or
- 1:05:07something like you know
- 1:05:08rogue or something like
- 1:05:09that yeah I got the
- 1:05:12opportunity to meet her at
- 1:05:14her first ever games when
- 1:05:16she got trapped here and uh
- 1:05:19couldn't get back to
- 1:05:20australia because of the
- 1:05:21olympics if everybody
- 1:05:22remembers that um and I
- 1:05:24interviewed her for the
- 1:05:25morning chalk up at the time
- 1:05:27And she was so kind and so
- 1:05:29gracious to come in and sit
- 1:05:30down with an interview.
- 1:05:32And I just,
- 1:05:34I hope that whatever she needs to do,
- 1:05:37make herself happy again,
- 1:05:38that it can happen.
- 1:05:40I know she has the back thing.
- 1:05:41We saw it at the games last year.
- 1:05:43I've had that injury.
- 1:05:44It is horrible.
- 1:05:46Like you can't get comfortable.
- 1:05:51And so I just,
- 1:05:52I pray that she finds
- 1:05:54whatever relief she needs
- 1:05:55to in injury wise and
- 1:05:57whatever piece she needs
- 1:05:59mentally to be able to move on.
- 1:06:02Speaking of back injuries,
- 1:06:03Caden Hogan announced this week,
- 1:06:08teen athlete,
- 1:06:08finished fourth at the games
- 1:06:09last year in the 16,
- 1:06:1117-year-old division.
- 1:06:13He has a herniated disc,
- 1:06:15and he is going to have to
- 1:06:16sit out this season.
- 1:06:18He tried to go through the open,
- 1:06:21tried the second workout,
- 1:06:23could not complete it.
- 1:06:27So had to withdraw.
- 1:06:29I just think it's crazy to
- 1:06:30see these young athletes
- 1:06:32with these injuries.
- 1:06:35Like Lex and I were walking
- 1:06:36the dogs and we had a chat about it.
- 1:06:38Like just like the amount of, you know,
- 1:06:40weight that some of the
- 1:06:41young athletes are doing
- 1:06:42while they're in development and stuff.
- 1:06:43I mean, it's fine,
- 1:06:44but it's the overtraining at that age.
- 1:06:47Right.
- 1:06:48I don't know if he's still
- 1:06:50doing other sports.
- 1:06:50I think he was an athlete of other sports.
- 1:06:52I don't know if he
- 1:06:52specialized after that in CrossFit,
- 1:06:55but sad to see young,
- 1:06:57athletes have backing back
- 1:06:59problems like I feel like
- 1:07:00that's an older issue
- 1:07:04problem normally um or
- 1:07:06something that's you know
- 1:07:07happened over time in many
- 1:07:09many years of training for
- 1:07:10a certain sport but when
- 1:07:12they're this relatively new
- 1:07:14but in the sport it's it's
- 1:07:15not a good it's not a good
- 1:07:18look um but for most of the
- 1:07:21teams it's not like they've
- 1:07:22been doing it since seven years old
- 1:07:23Like it's, we think it's new,
- 1:07:25but they've done as
- 1:07:26CrossFit as long as I have.
- 1:07:28Right.
- 1:07:30Yeah.
- 1:07:30He was followed by the
- 1:07:31prodigies podcast last season.
- 1:07:34So I got to know him a little bit there.
- 1:07:35Good kid.
- 1:07:36Um,
- 1:07:39It's one of those things
- 1:07:39where he was really good at
- 1:07:40like the body weight stuff
- 1:07:42and he was trying to build
- 1:07:42strength because he's a
- 1:07:44smaller athlete and you
- 1:07:46just hope he didn't try to push too far,
- 1:07:48too fast.
- 1:07:50Didn't he win the 5K last
- 1:07:51year at the games?
- 1:07:53I think he was a really good
- 1:07:53runner or something.
- 1:07:55I remember he was up there.
- 1:07:59um I don't know if you guys
- 1:08:01can see the lights
- 1:08:02flickering on and off
- 1:08:03behind me uh it's getting
- 1:08:05serious here so if I
- 1:08:07disappear uh you guys have
- 1:08:09to finish out the show but
- 1:08:10we also got word of another
- 1:08:12athlete out and that is
- 1:08:14perennial semi-final
- 1:08:15athlete so close to the
- 1:08:18game so close to the games
- 1:08:21in multiple seasons
- 1:08:24um gave up firefighting this
- 1:08:25year to go all in on
- 1:08:27competing in crossfit
- 1:08:29decided she needs to take a
- 1:08:31step back and find her
- 1:08:32happy place again and
- 1:08:33that's chloe wilson this
- 1:08:36one another mental thing I
- 1:08:41mean you can literally I
- 1:08:42have it um I have it up I
- 1:08:44can share it I didn't see this one
- 1:08:51That's crazy.
- 1:08:53So Chloe Wilson,
- 1:08:55if people don't remember
- 1:08:57Granite Games three years ago,
- 1:08:59she finished like a point
- 1:09:01out of going to the games.
- 1:09:03Then the next year she
- 1:09:04finished in sixth again in
- 1:09:05that really tight race in Knoxville.
- 1:09:09And then last year she was
- 1:09:11in a qualifying position
- 1:09:13until the last event and
- 1:09:15fell out in the West.
- 1:09:18So she says,
- 1:09:18I moved across the country to
- 1:09:21compete full-time in CrossFit.
- 1:09:24Then I decided to not compete at all.
- 1:09:26Life's crazy.
- 1:09:27Going to find my happy
- 1:09:28inside the gym again.
- 1:09:31Get back to being a firefighter.
- 1:09:34Hopefully somewhere in Tennessee wants me.
- 1:09:37And most important,
- 1:09:38find my happy outside the gym.
- 1:09:40I'm excited and happy with my choice.
- 1:09:43Thanks for all the support and love.
- 1:09:49Very interesting.
- 1:09:51Yeah.
- 1:09:51So, I mean,
- 1:09:55is it becoming an epidemic that
- 1:09:58we're losing like athlete
- 1:10:00after athlete after athlete
- 1:10:01or taking a step back?
- 1:10:03Are we training too much?
- 1:10:05Is the season too long?
- 1:10:09Is the answer yes to all of that?
- 1:10:12Well, when she first stopped working,
- 1:10:14my first thing was that's stupid.
- 1:10:17like me as, as like a full-time worker,
- 1:10:18I was like, I was like,
- 1:10:20you can still do your firefighting.
- 1:10:21And like, I'm like, she's just as good.
- 1:10:24Like it's,
- 1:10:24I don't think that she needed to
- 1:10:26go full-time.
- 1:10:26And if she, and she,
- 1:10:28like when you heard some of
- 1:10:29her things on podcasts,
- 1:10:30like she was so passionate about,
- 1:10:32you know,
- 1:10:33fighting fires and stuff like that.
- 1:10:34And when you have something
- 1:10:36else in your life and you
- 1:10:38all of a sudden take all
- 1:10:39that out and you're going
- 1:10:40all in the amount of
- 1:10:41pressure that that added to your life is
- 1:10:45crazy because when you don't
- 1:10:47qualify for the games, I had,
- 1:10:49I had been last year, right?
- 1:10:50I don't qualify for the games.
- 1:10:51I have something to fall back on.
- 1:10:52I have a full-time job,
- 1:10:54other things when you're,
- 1:10:55when you've had that job
- 1:10:57and all of a sudden you're,
- 1:10:58you quit that to go all in
- 1:11:01and you don't make it.
- 1:11:03You're like, like,
- 1:11:04there's just so much pressure.
- 1:11:06So I don't know if that's,
- 1:11:07that's a factor in that,
- 1:11:10but it's just something
- 1:11:11else on her plate too.
- 1:11:12Like,
- 1:11:13it can kind of just a way
- 1:11:14it's completely different from CrossFit.
- 1:11:16And I think that that's
- 1:11:17important to have something
- 1:11:17that's completely, you know,
- 1:11:18she has different friends at firefighter.
- 1:11:21She gets to experience different things,
- 1:11:23the thrill of, you know,
- 1:11:26saving people's lives and stuff.
- 1:11:27And I think that she
- 1:11:30obviously missed that and could have,
- 1:11:34I think could have stayed
- 1:11:35full time there and
- 1:11:36probably still made the
- 1:11:37games and been happier.
- 1:11:40She's,
- 1:11:41Yeah,
- 1:11:42she's somebody that I feel like
- 1:11:44should have gone the team
- 1:11:45route and like stayed with
- 1:11:49the firefighting, gone the team route,
- 1:11:50got that experience,
- 1:11:52then maybe figured out,
- 1:11:53can I do this solo?
- 1:11:57That's hard, though,
- 1:11:58when you're that close.
- 1:12:00Like, I mean,
- 1:12:01we're not talking like she
- 1:12:04finished sixth at Granite,
- 1:12:06sixth at Mac or Syndicate.
- 1:12:09I can't remember which one.
- 1:12:11And then she was in a
- 1:12:13qualifying spot in Pasadena
- 1:12:16going into the last event.
- 1:12:19So was Annika.
- 1:12:21We see she's going the team route.
- 1:12:23She's not.
- 1:12:27She's not going team?
- 1:12:28Nope.
- 1:12:31Other people that are training at her gym,
- 1:12:33like at P... Oh, I guess, yeah,
- 1:12:37I guess it's... Yeah,
- 1:12:39it's Mathilde and Lena are
- 1:12:42the women on that team.
- 1:12:44She did a team with them at
- 1:12:47one of the off-season events.
- 1:12:50But, yeah, she has told me, like,
- 1:12:53it's Indy or nothing.
- 1:12:54She doesn't like doing team.
- 1:12:55Oh, she's on it.
- 1:12:58I guess it's not for everybody.
- 1:12:59Yeah.
- 1:13:03I've, I mean,
- 1:13:04I've talked to athletes in
- 1:13:05the past where team was a
- 1:13:06miserable experience for them.
- 1:13:08It's just not what they're made out to do.
- 1:13:13And getting four
- 1:13:14personalities on the same
- 1:13:15page is really hard.
- 1:13:23So you need to make sure you
- 1:13:24have the right three other people.
- 1:13:28or it can be really, really hard.
- 1:13:33So my last question for the night,
- 1:13:35and I think we need to dive into this,
- 1:13:40people leaving and the reasons why,
- 1:13:42a little bit deeper maybe next week.
- 1:13:47And just real quick, Bruce did ask,
- 1:13:51Scott worked out with Judy?
- 1:13:52I did.
- 1:13:54And Judy was awesome.
- 1:13:57Uh, we had a blast for an hour, um,
- 1:13:58got fitter and she,
- 1:14:01she did awesome and was so excited to see,
- 1:14:04uh, where Christie Aramo works out.
- 1:14:07Uh,
- 1:14:07we just didn't get to see Christie
- 1:14:08Aramo today.
- 1:14:09So, um,
- 1:14:13she's at the high rocks right this
- 1:14:14weekend in Houston or something.
- 1:14:16Yeah, I know she's doing that,
- 1:14:19but I don't know where she's at.
- 1:14:21We've been talking by email.
- 1:14:23And yeah,
- 1:14:25it's hard for me to imagine she
- 1:14:26would miss an open weekend
- 1:14:29because they're so involved.
- 1:14:31Yeah.
- 1:14:31But the coaches are really good.
- 1:14:33So, I mean,
- 1:14:34she has people she can trust to do it.
- 1:14:36And her mom ran the gym for
- 1:14:37years and is still very active there.
- 1:14:40Yeah.
- 1:14:42I think her and her husband
- 1:14:43are doing the High Rocks
- 1:14:44this weekend individually,
- 1:14:45like in the Indy Pro.
- 1:14:47And Mal O'Brien's doing it as well,
- 1:14:49but not in the Indy Pro.
- 1:14:50I think she's doing it in a
- 1:14:51team or something like that.
- 1:14:53Yeah, she's doing doubles.
- 1:14:55Brian's been announced that, gosh,
- 1:14:57right before we went on the air.
- 1:15:00But I think Christy will crush High Rocks.
- 1:15:06I think so too.
- 1:15:07I think that's a great
- 1:15:08transition for her as a,
- 1:15:10she was probably one of, I mean,
- 1:15:12if not the best long
- 1:15:14distance runner that we've had.
- 1:15:16I think someone like her,
- 1:15:19Alex Parker was a really good runner too.
- 1:15:22Like pure like distance runners role,
- 1:15:25obviously.
- 1:15:27Yeah, she runs to the gym,
- 1:15:30and it's a couple miles.
- 1:15:33And then she runs home after the workout.
- 1:15:36Like after today, I barely got to my car.
- 1:15:42How are your legs doing right now, Scott?
- 1:15:45Not great.
- 1:15:47The rope crushed them.
- 1:15:51just haven't had much
- 1:15:52resistance or like pushing
- 1:15:54with power in a little bit.
- 1:15:56And I felt it first four rounds.
- 1:16:00I was good.
- 1:16:01Second four rounds,
- 1:16:02wheels came off the bus pretty hard.
- 1:16:06Um, but then I'd look over,
- 1:16:08Judy was going to town every,
- 1:16:10every single round.
- 1:16:10And I'm like, well, gotta keep going.
- 1:16:14And in the Judy way was just like,
- 1:16:16you got this guy, you can do it.
- 1:16:19And so I had to like, keep going.
- 1:16:22So my last question is,
- 1:16:25are the results of the Open
- 1:16:27changing your opinions on
- 1:16:28any specific athletes and
- 1:16:30how well they can do this year?
- 1:16:32Like, for instance, today,
- 1:16:34Sydney Wells surprised me
- 1:16:36with her upper body pulling
- 1:16:39that she hung in there
- 1:16:41pretty good against some of
- 1:16:43the best in the world.
- 1:16:45And that is a huge improvement for her.
- 1:16:49Yeah.
- 1:16:51I think her pull-ups have
- 1:16:54always been decent.
- 1:16:55I'm sure she's been working on it more.
- 1:16:57There's something about the ring muscle-up,
- 1:16:59the turnover, something that...
- 1:17:01i mean we'll have to wait on
- 1:17:02seeing that if that has
- 1:17:03improved at all I'm sure
- 1:17:04it's improved a little bit
- 1:17:05but I still think that's
- 1:17:06going to be her huge hole
- 1:17:09compared to the field um
- 1:17:11and I just I don't know I
- 1:17:12know you shut it off but
- 1:17:14tia was even saying how far
- 1:17:16she's come with her bar
- 1:17:17muscle ups in the time that
- 1:17:20she's been there is like
- 1:17:21night and day that's awesome
- 1:17:27It's just hard to tell for
- 1:17:28the open because some people are redoing,
- 1:17:31some people are not.
- 1:17:34Different types of workouts
- 1:17:35that you'll see at quarterfinals.
- 1:17:36So some people will shine
- 1:17:38more in the open and they always do more,
- 1:17:40like just better in the open.
- 1:17:43So I don't value, I mean,
- 1:17:47I don't value as much.
- 1:17:50I'm an open person.
- 1:17:50I like the open.
- 1:17:52I normally do well every year in the open,
- 1:17:55but I don't know.
- 1:17:58It's a different test.
- 1:17:59It starts back over.
- 1:18:02You just don't know what
- 1:18:04people will be like in a month.
- 1:18:08Yeah.
- 1:18:09So what I look at,
- 1:18:10and I have a handful of names,
- 1:18:12or do you want to go first, Jamie?
- 1:18:13Go ahead.
- 1:18:14Yeah, well,
- 1:18:15so I think Sydney's a great pick,
- 1:18:16but for me,
- 1:18:17and I had said something about her before,
- 1:18:20was Grace Walton.
- 1:18:21Like, is just smashing this so far.
- 1:18:25I'm so curious to see how
- 1:18:26she does on point three,
- 1:18:27but that would be, like, that's, like,
- 1:18:30my top pick right now.
- 1:18:32Yeah, I fully agree with you.
- 1:18:33Like, I want to see,
- 1:18:35obviously her capacity is there.
- 1:18:38Now I want to see is the crossfit.
- 1:18:42traditional CrossFit
- 1:18:43thruster chest of our bar
- 1:18:44muscle-ups there because
- 1:18:46she's been crushing it.
- 1:18:48Very impressive.
- 1:18:48Yeah.
- 1:18:50I didn't know about her before.
- 1:18:51I didn't follow her.
- 1:18:53And we know she can swim from Guadalupe,
- 1:18:57like a dolphin.
- 1:18:59And we know I can't.
- 1:19:00Right.
- 1:19:05So I had like three coming into today.
- 1:19:08And really what I'm looking
- 1:19:10for is people that are
- 1:19:11doing well in things that I
- 1:19:12wouldn't think they would do well in.
- 1:19:14So how much have they closed
- 1:19:16the gaps on their holes?
- 1:19:19And coming into this week,
- 1:19:23Tudor was high on my list.
- 1:19:27If you look at 24.1,
- 1:19:29that was not a Tudor workout.
- 1:19:34And he finished top 50 in the world.
- 1:19:36I think 34th or something like that.
- 1:19:40And then this week before the debacle,
- 1:19:44he was winning the event.
- 1:19:48And I did think he would do
- 1:19:49good on the row.
- 1:19:50I just didn't know if he had
- 1:19:51the engine to finish.
- 1:19:52Agreed.
- 1:19:53He showed that he kind of
- 1:19:54did have the engine to finish,
- 1:19:56whether you think his
- 1:19:57deadlifts were open or not.
- 1:20:00He still got over 1,000 reps.
- 1:20:02He still went through it all,
- 1:20:03and his engine still held up.
- 1:20:05So Tudor is one.
- 1:20:07Freya Mooseburger has done
- 1:20:10well in events that I did
- 1:20:11not picture her to do well in.
- 1:20:12I look at her as a Tudor athlete as well,
- 1:20:18and she did well on the
- 1:20:20first two workouts.
- 1:20:22And my next one is a real big wild card.
- 1:20:25Two years ago,
- 1:20:26she was a semifinals athlete.
- 1:20:27She injured her knee last year,
- 1:20:29and that's Elena Buds.
- 1:20:30Okay.
- 1:20:32She went to underdogs for a year.
- 1:20:33She tore up her knee.
- 1:20:36She's been rehabbing it back,
- 1:20:38and she's looked really
- 1:20:39good in the open this year.
- 1:20:42She moved back home to be
- 1:20:45back with family.
- 1:20:46She's really close with them.
- 1:20:49But again,
- 1:20:51moving back home puts her back
- 1:20:52in the East.
- 1:20:54That's murder's row.
- 1:20:57But I do think, and Freya,
- 1:20:59I think that's a mistake for her,
- 1:21:01training out of TTT now if
- 1:21:02she's in the East.
- 1:21:04And I don't know how that works.
- 1:21:07She's training in Montreal,
- 1:21:09but she's doing training, I think,
- 1:21:11but she's in Montreal.
- 1:21:12Okay.
- 1:21:13Is that, so is that East?
- 1:21:16Cause last year she was West
- 1:21:17training in Montreal, right?
- 1:21:20Yeah.
- 1:21:21I think she had her home address before,
- 1:21:24but now I think she was
- 1:21:24like more moved into Montreal.
- 1:21:26Like I think before she
- 1:21:27wasn't kind of like living there,
- 1:21:30she was more training there.
- 1:21:31And now I think she's more
- 1:21:32established in Montreal.
- 1:21:35So those were my picks.
- 1:21:36Those are the three that I,
- 1:21:38just looking at the leaderboard,
- 1:21:39I thought showed something
- 1:21:41where they've improved on their holes.
- 1:21:45And I'm actually super excited.
- 1:21:47And now that CrossFit is picking on Tudor,
- 1:21:49now I want him to win more.
- 1:21:51I know.
- 1:21:52Me too.
- 1:21:54So like I'm in that kid's
- 1:21:55corner and want him to do well.
- 1:21:59but those,
- 1:22:00those are the three that I kind
- 1:22:01of like stood out to me as
- 1:22:04people who have fixed their hole.
- 1:22:06And the other thing that
- 1:22:07I'll say is for those
- 1:22:10people who thought that
- 1:22:11Ariel was a fluke last year,
- 1:22:12they got another thing
- 1:22:14coming because that girl is
- 1:22:19super fit now and she's got
- 1:22:21some confidence behind her.
- 1:22:23And I, that makes her really dangerous.
- 1:22:26And in the last spin pull,
- 1:22:27I moved her back up into the top five.
- 1:22:35Yeah.
- 1:22:36So she's killing it.
- 1:22:37I agree.
- 1:22:39I'm intrigued by the kale
- 1:22:42guy within the top 10 or
- 1:22:44whatever for the mail.
- 1:22:46I think his third right now, he's very, um,
- 1:22:50he's not as tall.
- 1:22:52He's more Colton's height,
- 1:22:53maybe even smaller.
- 1:22:54So something like this could
- 1:22:55also be good for him.
- 1:22:56Like, can he win the open?
- 1:23:00Never heard of him.
- 1:23:02Just would be interesting
- 1:23:03there to have someone come
- 1:23:06out and do as well as that.
- 1:23:10I don't know how he did last
- 1:23:12year in the open.
- 1:23:13Yeah, he doesn't have much experience.
- 1:23:15He did the open in 2023 and
- 1:23:16was almost 5,000.
- 1:23:19So maybe there was an injury
- 1:23:21there or something, but.
- 1:23:25What I was looking at was people I knew,
- 1:23:29what their holes were.
- 1:23:30These people that are coming
- 1:23:31out of the woodwork, I don't know yet.
- 1:23:34It's wait and see.
- 1:23:37Cajon, I think,
- 1:23:38I'm happy to see that he's
- 1:23:41recovering from his peck.
- 1:23:43I didn't expect him as high.
- 1:23:45He's always done well in the open,
- 1:23:47but just to see him back
- 1:23:48after a rough year last year,
- 1:23:49I think it's nice to see that.
- 1:23:52yeah we um it's funny we
- 1:23:55stayed in the same airbnb
- 1:23:58as him and um vino yeah
- 1:24:05alex uh last year in
- 1:24:07orlando and didn't even
- 1:24:09know until sunday when we
- 1:24:10were packing up to leave yep
- 1:24:15Um, but yeah, it was, it was sad.
- 1:24:17He was in the parking lot.
- 1:24:18Like his shoulder was all wrapped up and,
- 1:24:20and bandaged, um, after that.
- 1:24:24Um, but yeah.
- 1:24:26And he's a good guy.
- 1:24:27Like there's him and Alex are really cool.
- 1:24:32Um,
- 1:24:33my third pick was Dallin and the men's
- 1:24:35side.
- 1:24:35I've been very impressed with him.
- 1:24:37I knew the second workout would be good,
- 1:24:39but that first workout to
- 1:24:41see him go sub-six,
- 1:24:43that's very impressive.
- 1:24:44Yeah, that surprised me a lot.
- 1:24:48He's putting up a good start to the season,
- 1:24:50and he had a phenomenal season last year,
- 1:24:52and I think he could be in
- 1:24:53the mix with those top guys now.
- 1:24:55Because I think he was a
- 1:24:56tier nine number four,
- 1:24:57but I think he's stepping up now to that.
- 1:24:59I mean, it's just the open, but again,
- 1:25:03I think he has a very
- 1:25:04positive trajectory.
- 1:25:07Would there be a specific
- 1:25:08reason why he seems to be a slow starter?
- 1:25:11Like at every event you go to,
- 1:25:13whether it be Rogue, the games,
- 1:25:16Wadapalooza,
- 1:25:17it seems like he gets off to
- 1:25:18a slow start.
- 1:25:27Doodles are barking at some
- 1:25:29squirrels out there,
- 1:25:29so I was waiting to see if
- 1:25:31Jamie was going to say something.
- 1:25:35Well, I like, I know you've,
- 1:25:37you've competed at the highest level.
- 1:25:38Like, do you ever have those?
- 1:25:41Like you don't seem to be a slow starter.
- 1:25:46It depends on the workout.
- 1:25:49And it really depends.
- 1:25:50Like if you're going to the games,
- 1:25:51that's a swimming workout to start.
- 1:25:53I'm going to be a slow starter.
- 1:25:56It depends on what it is.
- 1:25:59Yeah.
- 1:26:00You and Pat Velner.
- 1:26:04I don't even try to swim.
- 1:26:06He's at least swimming every week.
- 1:26:09I swim at Waterpalooza.
- 1:26:10I swim at NorCal Classic.
- 1:26:14I take my two full rest days a week.
- 1:26:16Full rest days.
- 1:26:18I love it.
- 1:26:18All right.
- 1:26:21I'll worry about swimming
- 1:26:22when I need to worry about swimming.
- 1:26:26too late one of my favorite
- 1:26:29quotes ever is from carolyn
- 1:26:31where she goes why would I
- 1:26:33waste time getting better
- 1:26:34at one event out of 15 like
- 1:26:38just just keep getting
- 1:26:40better at the other stuff
- 1:26:41and I have one bad event
- 1:26:43and when she said I was
- 1:26:44like you know it kind of
- 1:26:45does make sense why put a
- 1:26:47ton of effort into this if
- 1:26:49I'm only going to improve
- 1:26:50from 39th to 36th yeah you got a point
- 1:26:59because it's like I can
- 1:27:00survive like I'm not no
- 1:27:03like I'll survive if it's
- 1:27:05gonna appear like in
- 1:27:05semi-final or something
- 1:27:06yeah I'll start swimming
- 1:27:07but I don't think it will
- 1:27:09not yet anyways not in the
- 1:27:10facilities that we have so
- 1:27:13right I i would rather have
- 1:27:15the rest days I do work on
- 1:27:16those where like I'm doing
- 1:27:18corrections I'm it's like a
- 1:27:20mental break it's like I
- 1:27:21get to switch and work on
- 1:27:23other things that I have in my day um
- 1:27:27Corey says, I won't drown.
- 1:27:29Well, it depends on the distance, Corey.
- 1:27:37So one thing I forgot to bring up,
- 1:27:40and that is,
- 1:27:40I don't know if you saw
- 1:27:41Adrian Conway today was
- 1:27:43wearing a new shirt that if
- 1:27:45you make quarters, you get.
- 1:27:49Now, is it free from CrossFit,
- 1:27:51or do you have to pay for it?
- 1:27:53You buy that, Scott.
- 1:27:54For sure, you're buying.
- 1:27:55They're not sending...
- 1:27:56shirts that people no way
- 1:28:00it's just an opportunity to
- 1:28:02have to buy a shirt to say
- 1:28:03that you made it to the
- 1:28:04quarters and you can only
- 1:28:06buy it if you made it to
- 1:28:07quarters like I bought a
- 1:28:10shirt from rogue that said
- 1:28:11I was in that 750 club
- 1:28:13after I got like I still
- 1:28:15had to buy it I'm assuming
- 1:28:17it's the same thing hey it
- 1:28:20should be part of the sign up fee uh
- 1:28:25Yeah.
- 1:28:26Sarah Cooper.
- 1:28:27Yes.
- 1:28:28Carolyn is going indie.
- 1:28:30She's one of those alphas
- 1:28:32that can't be in a room
- 1:28:33with three other people.
- 1:28:36Just kidding.
- 1:28:45Corey says if it's as ugly
- 1:28:46as the open shirt, they can keep it.
- 1:28:51Jeffrey still hasn't even
- 1:28:52gotten his open shirt,
- 1:28:53so that's not good.
- 1:28:56That's a bad look.
- 1:28:59Wow.
- 1:29:00That's like tear when I
- 1:29:02bought the Sydney and the
- 1:29:05Emily shirts and I got them
- 1:29:07three months after Waterpalooza was over.
- 1:29:09What the heck?
- 1:29:12And I ordered them like
- 1:29:12three months before Waterpalooza.
- 1:29:16That's terrible.
- 1:29:19Why, why are jerseys for athletes so hard?
- 1:29:24No matter what company does them,
- 1:29:27they seem to be delayed.
- 1:29:29Yeah.
- 1:29:31It's a screen printed name on a shirt.
- 1:29:35Yeah,
- 1:29:36clearly you're using the wrong vendor
- 1:29:37for it, I would say.
- 1:29:42Yeah,
- 1:29:42like for the Arnold Thickboy had me
- 1:29:45three shirts and a
- 1:29:45sweatshirt in like less than a week.
- 1:29:49Yeah.
- 1:29:54So, all right.
- 1:29:56Well, with that,
- 1:29:58I think the storm has
- 1:29:59passed wife and dog have left.
- 1:30:01That's good.
- 1:30:03We made it through with full power.
- 1:30:07The only advantage I have
- 1:30:08living where I do is I am
- 1:30:11like a couple hundred yards
- 1:30:13from Chase's headquarters.
- 1:30:17And so all the,
- 1:30:18all the power lines are underground.
- 1:30:22And they're on like this
- 1:30:23super grid because the
- 1:30:26banking world can't be without them.
- 1:30:28Right.
- 1:30:29So we're on that same grid.
- 1:30:32We have never lost power in the,
- 1:30:34in the 20 years I've lived here.
- 1:30:36That's crazy.
- 1:30:40And just knocking on wood too.
- 1:30:43Yeah.
- 1:30:46But yeah.
- 1:30:47All right.
- 1:30:48Well, with that, the chat,
- 1:30:50you are always on fire on
- 1:30:53Thursday nights.
- 1:30:55Make sure to join us on
- 1:30:56Sunday night when we review
- 1:30:58the tapes of Jamie's first
- 1:31:00attempt and second attempt of 24.3.
- 1:31:07And the whole team, see where they're at.
- 1:31:13Come on, boys.
- 1:31:14Step it up, boys.
- 1:31:19Take your creatine, Jamie, for Sunday.
- 1:31:21Okay.
- 1:31:24And with that,
- 1:31:24we will see everybody next
- 1:31:26time on Thursday Night CrossFit Talk.
- 1:31:28Thanks, guys.
- 1:31:29Night.