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Rock 'N' Mom--Carnie Wilson · Inside The Moms Club

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Speaker 1: Hi, Welcome to Inside the Mom's Club, where being a
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Speaker 1: mom is the coolest place to be. Here in the
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Speaker 1: Welcome to Inside the Mom's Club. I'm your host, Monica Samuels,
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Speaker 1: and you will know today that I am without my
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Speaker 1: co host, Julie Orchid, who is jetting off to Europe
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Speaker 1: as we speak on her European vacation, which includes a
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Speaker 1: trip to the Olympics. So she's going to be in Paris,
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Speaker 1: which is very exciting to me because I can't wait
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Speaker 1: I guess, depending on what that is, we'll see whether
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Speaker 1: she's back as co host next time. But no, I'm
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Speaker 1: just kidding. We miss Julie and she misses being here
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Speaker 1: because I know for a fact she would love to
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Speaker 1: be here to talk to our guests today. One thing
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Speaker 1: we've got to interview such amazing people here on the
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Speaker 1: Mom's Club. But we really love it when we can
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Speaker 1: talk to somebody who has incredible talents that maybe we
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Speaker 1: don't personally possess ourselves, and we can learn something from them. So,
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Speaker 1: for example, our guest today is an incredible singer and performer.
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Speaker 1: Personally me, I am not. I can't sing, let's just
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Speaker 1: be honest. I've been told that I could carry a
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Speaker 1: tune in a bucket if there was a lid on it.
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Speaker 1: So I'm just not good at singing. Although I was
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Speaker 1: in the choir in middle school and i'd get a
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Speaker 1: letter in choired. And I do remember the look on
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Speaker 1: mister Sawyer's face, the choir director, when he announced my name.
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Speaker 1: It was as much shock on his face as it
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Speaker 1: was on mind, because I think he might have accidentally
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Speaker 1: put my name on the list. But I'm good for volume,
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Speaker 1: and maybe that's why he gave it to me. And
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Speaker 1: then the other thing, and this is even a bigger deal.
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Speaker 1: I am a terrible cook. I mean I'm the first
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Speaker 1: one to admit I am the world's worst cook. In fact,
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Speaker 1: when we did this, when we started this show, we
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Speaker 1: sent some photos in so that they could create this
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Speaker 1: logo that if you're listening to the podcast you can't
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Speaker 1: see it, but on our YouTube channel you can see
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Speaker 1: that the logo represents parts of my life. So example,
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Speaker 1: there's a wine glass in here. Occasionally I'll have a
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Speaker 1: glass of wine. I'm a champion shopper. That's one of
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Speaker 1: my great talents. But then I sent some photos of
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Speaker 1: myself cooking and what they came back with was a
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Speaker 1: fry pan with a huge flame coming out of it,
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Speaker 1: which is pretty accurate. So I am this is something
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Speaker 1: that I'm not I'm really not good at. But you know,
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Speaker 1: I have been watching our guest show, her new show,
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Speaker 1: which will tell you about in a moment, and watching
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Speaker 1: her on Instagram, and I'm inspired to think that maybe
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Speaker 1: I could actually do this, and who knows, maybe even
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Speaker 1: sing too. I don't know, but we'll see. So we're
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Speaker 1: without further ado. I am thrilled to welcome one of them.
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Speaker 1: One of everyone's favorites. She took the world by storm
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Speaker 1: as part of the nineties' most famous trio, Wilson Phillips,
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Speaker 1: and since then she has hosted her own daytime show,
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Speaker 1: won a TV cooking competition, and helped normalize talking about
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Speaker 1: weight loss struggles, and she is now the host of
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Speaker 1: a show on XS called Sounds Delicious with Carnee Wilson.
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Speaker 1: Please welcome the iconic the rock legend Carney Wilson. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to the Mom's Club.
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Speaker 2: That was quite an intro.
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Speaker 1: Well, Carnie, you're so excited that you're here. This is
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Speaker 1: as we say here on the Mom's Club. This is amazing.
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Speaker 1: We are so thrilled to have you here. And first
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Speaker 1: let's hear all about your show. You're so much it's
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Speaker 1: you're so much fun to watch. I mean whether you
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Speaker 1: were cooking or just standing there doing something else. I mean,
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Speaker 1: just entertaining for sure. But how did it start? How
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Speaker 1: did it Sounds Delicious with Carnie Wilson? What was what
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Speaker 1: was the genesis of that?
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Speaker 2: Well, thank you for having me. And that was like
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Speaker 2: the longest intro ever. I don't know. I just I
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Speaker 2: feel like my home is I mean, where my children are,
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Speaker 2: and it used to be when I was in the
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Speaker 2: recording studio. But when I started cooking, that's when I
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Speaker 2: found my true place, I think, and I think it's
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Speaker 2: more about the love of feeding people. And I know
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Speaker 2: that's a like a part of the nurturing part of me.
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Speaker 2: You know. I come from that family where my grandmother
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Speaker 2: was a really good cook, and I remember cooking with her,
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Speaker 2: baking with her, stealing her little chocolate chip. She used
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Speaker 2: to get soap pissed off, and because I would eat
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Speaker 2: all of her chocolate stamps for cookies. But like I
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Speaker 2: just I don't know, I find comfort. I'm a sober woman,
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Speaker 2: so I have to like do something with my hands,
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Speaker 2: my creativity, and I find that it's it's like an outlet,
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Speaker 2: you know, and and also a joy. So food excites
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Speaker 2: me and inspires me. It makes me hyper, it makes
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Speaker 2: me I don't know, just it makes me feel. I
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Speaker 2: know that's weird, but food makes me feel and I
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Speaker 2: love watching people eat. I know that's weird, but so
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Speaker 2: and when I was doing the show, we filmed twelve episodes.
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Speaker 2: I don't even remember half the things I said, because
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Speaker 2: it's just it's it. They really let me just like
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Speaker 2: they just kind of like press record and then here
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Speaker 2: we go. Well I was really it, and you kind
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Speaker 2: of never knew what you were going to get.
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Speaker 1: Honestly, when I watched your episodes, you can feel what
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Speaker 1: you just described. You can feel the love, I mean,
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Speaker 1: the cooking is an experience with people that you can
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Speaker 1: really share. And so your grandmother was a great cook.
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Speaker 1: For what you're saying, did you cook with your mother
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Speaker 1: or what was the experience in your own family with cooking,
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Speaker 1: because I know my mom was a great cook, and
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Speaker 1: that was part of the problem, because she was a
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Speaker 1: great cook, and so we just ate we didn't share
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Speaker 1: in the cooking experience. But did you do that as
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Speaker 1: a family growing up or.
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Speaker 2: No, I didn't. It was really only my grandmother's house.
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Speaker 2: I mean my household was, you know, wacky and definitely
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Speaker 2: not this conventional whatever you want to call it. Quite dysfunctional,
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Speaker 2: I would say, really dysfunctional. So I always found sort
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Speaker 2: of like solace in food. But the cooking, my mom
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Speaker 2: was not a cook. I mean, she's never afraid to admit.
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Speaker 2: It was like cans of beans and hot dogs, you know,
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Speaker 2: that was her. That was But Grandma was great, this
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Speaker 2: little Jewish grandmother. She made great brisket, she made incredible
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Speaker 2: mats of ball soup. And everybody talks about their own
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Speaker 2: grandmother's version, but honestly it was. We were very close
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Speaker 2: with my grandparents. In fact, I have a little picture
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Speaker 2: of her right right in front of me.
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Speaker 3: On my.
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Speaker 4: Sweet Yeah, my little grandma went here, a little curly hair,
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Speaker 4: her little nightgown, you know, and I just and she's
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Speaker 4: with me every day.
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Speaker 5: I love her.
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Speaker 2: Her name was May. She's the one that really was
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Speaker 2: like the matriarch, you know, especially of the kitchen. So
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Speaker 2: I don't know. We didn't cook much with mom, but
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Speaker 2: we could eat. We could eat for sure.
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Speaker 1: Now I saw you cooking with one of your daughters
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Speaker 1: on the show, making mac and cheese. So is it
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Speaker 1: something you experienced with your own daughters or.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they do. I mean Lola more than Lucy.
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Speaker 2: Lola's nineteen and Lucy's fifteen, and Lola loves to bake.
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Speaker 2: I think Lucy will. She used to help me like
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Speaker 2: chopped vegetables, and she was really really like meticulous about
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Speaker 2: how she was really really good. I think Lucy could
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Speaker 2: get into the culinary world at some point. But Lola
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Speaker 2: is studying psychology and now she's totally busy. But we
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Speaker 2: used to bait together. She makes a good sugar cookie,
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Speaker 2: that's for sure. But you know they've been tasting every
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Speaker 2: this my poor family. I mean, all I do is
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Speaker 2: shove a fork in them off like O taste, taste, taste,
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Speaker 2: because they have to I want to know what they think.
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Speaker 2: And because the recipes I make, I mean I make
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Speaker 2: them over and over and over again because I feel
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Speaker 2: like I'm never getting to like, I don't know what
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Speaker 2: I'm searching for. I'm sure for like the ultimate of
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Speaker 2: everything I make, which is kind of lame, but because
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Speaker 2: it's exhausting, because at some point you got to be like, Okay,
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Speaker 2: it's good, now stop. And that's my neurosis, I think,
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Speaker 2: you know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, that's kind of the challenge for me
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Speaker 1: personally is just the time it takes to do it.
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Speaker 1: And I have a little bit of ADHD, so if
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Speaker 1: there's more than four ingredients in the recipe, then I'm
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Speaker 1: just overwhelmed. And my sister recently she moved to a
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Speaker 1: town in Texas. You'd think every place in Texas has
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Speaker 1: great tex Mex but she found the one place that
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Speaker 1: it wasn't so great. So she got every recipe from
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Speaker 1: all her favorite Mexican restaurants and she decided to make
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Speaker 1: the perfect tex Mex meal for the family, which she did.
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Speaker 1: She started at two pm and she was done with everything,
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Speaker 1: clean up, and everything was like ten pm. So then
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Speaker 1: you have to decide do I rather neat the mediocre
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Speaker 1: Mexican food or do I want to spend all day
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Speaker 1: in the kitchen. And so that to me has always
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Speaker 1: been the challenging part. So if you found some secrets
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Speaker 1: to making that a little easier, what are some tips
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Speaker 1: you'd give moms out there, because a lot of moms
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Speaker 1: that's the challenge for everybody out there trying to cook
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Speaker 1: with a family.
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Speaker 2: Time management is totally crazy. And I have on a
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Speaker 2: very erratic schedule, so there's never anything consistent for me.
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Speaker 2: That's a challenge in and of itself, so that really
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Speaker 2: makes it harder. I think one of the great things
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Speaker 2: is prepping and sort of like digging around, searching around,
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Speaker 2: like what do you feel like making and what can
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Speaker 2: you do in advance? The steps you can take and
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Speaker 2: you can freeze things, you can make sauces in advance,
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Speaker 2: you could chop vegetables in advance, cut cheese and advance
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Speaker 2: whatever it is, and then you know, getting up a
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Speaker 2: little bit earlier. The problem with me is that I
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Speaker 2: put food and cooking before exercise. And even though I've
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Speaker 2: changed my diet radically since last September, radically, I'm still
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Speaker 2: sticking to that. But in the blurry background here that's
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Speaker 2: a treadmill, and I don't go on that thing. And
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Speaker 2: I think that I almost I'm not almost. I admire
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Speaker 2: the women and the mothers that put exercise as a priority,
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Speaker 2: which I think is smart. But honestly, I put food
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Speaker 2: before exercise. That's the truth. I put cooking before it.
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Speaker 2: So I will do that instead of, you know, the
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Speaker 2: hour that moms are going out and doing their hiking
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Speaker 2: or whatever. I don't want to tell them not to
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Speaker 2: do that, but maybe split it in half. I don't
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Speaker 2: believe we need an hour of exercise every day. I
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Speaker 2: think we need twenty minutes a day, and I think
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Speaker 2: it's great. So maybe the other the other twenty minutes
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Speaker 2: prep you know, washer vegetables, chop them up, put them
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Speaker 2: in a container, and you're ready to stir for I later.
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Speaker 2: Just stuff like that.
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Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
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Speaker 2: Well and you too, And also started to rupt you
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Speaker 2: reading recipes. Follow recipes. Don't just wing it and think
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Speaker 2: you you know, you know what I'm doing all the time.
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Speaker 2: Just get up, get a recipe and and look at
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Speaker 2: it and read it in its entirety, the ingredients, the instructions,
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Speaker 2: so you know what you're doing, you know what to expect,
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Speaker 2: and then you're not crazy with surprises. I have thousands
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Speaker 2: of cookbooks, thousands. They take up the walls in my
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Speaker 2: dining room, and I read them like they're like their novels,
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Speaker 2: and I've learned a lot from that.
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Speaker 1: I actually have thousands of cookbooks at my house too,
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Speaker 1: but sadly I haven't even picked one up yet. What's
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Speaker 1: interesting you said talked about exercise and that facet. You
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Speaker 1: do have to schedule that for sure. So when you're
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Speaker 1: when you don't have plan yeah, exactly, So when you
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Speaker 1: don't have time for that, then you have to think
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Speaker 1: make food choices. And I have to say, you look amazing.
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Speaker 1: You are amazing, as we say, you look great. So
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Speaker 1: as far as like food choices, because I know for
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Speaker 1: me personally, that's the other thing. The cheating part of
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Speaker 1: dieting or eating or whatever is the tricky part because
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Speaker 1: I can for some reason, I think that if I
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Speaker 1: sneak into the pantry and pull out a couple of
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Speaker 1: cookies and nobody saw that, somehow, that's not going to
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Speaker 1: affect me later like that doesn't count because nobody knows
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Speaker 1: about it. So you have to plan what you're eating,
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Speaker 1: to you know, help with your with your weight. So
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Speaker 1: what do you do? Because you look great? And the
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Speaker 1: you're telling me that that treadmill is a somewhere you
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Speaker 1: hang clothes or something. I mean, I can't even believe
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Speaker 1: it because you look you look tremendous. So would you
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Speaker 1: have me some secrets you could share?
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Speaker 2: You know, gosh, cheating is I don't like the word cheating.
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you why, because I think it gives us
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Speaker 2: the It makes us feel bad and like we if
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Speaker 2: we don't stick to something so perfectly, then we're not
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Speaker 2: good people or we're flawed or whatever. But that's the point.
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Speaker 2: We are flawed and life is in session, and so
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Speaker 2: I can't predict, you know, what's going to happen when
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Speaker 2: I travel, if a plane's going to be delayed. I
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Speaker 2: can't predict what my children are going to do. I
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Speaker 2: can't predict, you know, you know, an earthquake. I can't
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Speaker 2: predict anything that could happen. That was a weird example,
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Speaker 2: But I mean the point is I have to learn
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Speaker 2: how to roll with it and know that there are
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Speaker 2: so many choices for me, and there's so many options.
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Speaker 2: But I do have a sort of no list. Now,
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Speaker 2: I decided to cut out certain foods that I know
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Speaker 2: are bad their triggers for me. You know, refined sugar
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Speaker 2: is a trigger for me. Gluten is a trigger, and
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Speaker 2: it sends me into spirals of like hell mental and
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Speaker 2: physical health. I'm fifty six. I know the foods that
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Speaker 2: make me feel bad and good. I always want the
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Speaker 2: bad foods. But I decided that after I was really
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Speaker 2: like physically challenged. I thought I had gallstones. I had
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Speaker 2: to go get an ultrasound on my belly. I thought,
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Speaker 2: you know, I've had issues, I've had gas to bypass,
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Speaker 2: lap band, all this stuff to help over these years.
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Speaker 2: And it did help me lose a lot of weight
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Speaker 2: and keep a lot of weight off. But it was
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Speaker 2: more about not sort of like being like more really
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Speaker 2: obese and all that stuff and all these effects that
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Speaker 2: we have being really heavy, because at some point they're
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Speaker 2: going to catch up to you. It was more about
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Speaker 2: mentally the obsession that I was having and I could
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Speaker 2: let go of, like I have to have a scone,
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Speaker 2: I have to have a croissant, I have to have toast,
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Speaker 2: I have to have you know, desserts. I was going
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Speaker 2: crazy and then I started really hurting my belly, so
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Speaker 2: I thought I didn't test for Celiac. I didn't do
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Speaker 2: any of that, but I just thought, all right, let's elimination.
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Speaker 2: Let's start with that. I cut out sugar and I
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Speaker 2: cut out gluten, and it has really made a difference.
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Speaker 2: I still am like the most gaseous woman on the
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Speaker 2: frickin' planet. I will always like just be Queen Farter.
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Speaker 2: But like I don't crave so much. I'm not ruled
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Speaker 2: by food, and that is a really hard thing for
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Speaker 2: me because I have this very alcoholic, addictive mind, and
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Speaker 2: I know who I am. I am a true recovering
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Speaker 2: alcoholic who is obsessive beyond. So I don't know where
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Speaker 2: it's coming from. I don't know how I have let
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Speaker 2: go of these foods, but God knows that if I
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Speaker 2: don't have a replacement that I'm happy with, I'm not
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Speaker 2: going to stick with it. So I've learned the good
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Speaker 2: stuff to like. Oh, I can have chips and salsa,
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Speaker 2: I can have my caesadias with corn tortillas. I can
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Speaker 2: have potatoes and rice that I am okay with that.
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Speaker 2: I'm just not going to have the flour tortillas or
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Speaker 2: the brioche bun or the regular pasta, and it sucks,
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Speaker 2: but I'm still satisfied having the other things. So I
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Speaker 2: know that was a really long answer.
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Speaker 1: No, I think it's a really good answer because I
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Speaker 1: can totally relate to that in the sense that, first
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Speaker 1: of all, refined sugar is a drug. Let's face it,
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Speaker 1: I mean it is, so once you're on it, you
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Speaker 1: gotta get off of it, because I know, for me,
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Speaker 1: if it's anyone's birthday, I immediately kind of go spiral
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Speaker 1: into a panic mode because if they put butter cream
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Speaker 1: frosting in front of me, I literally eat the whole cake.
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Speaker 2: No, it's my favorite thing in the world.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's I mean really, then you just
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Speaker 1: keep going. Then you're eating all the bad things you're not.
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Speaker 5: Supposed to eat. So you really do have.
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Speaker 1: To train yourself. I mean, you have to just accept
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Speaker 1: the fact that's a drug. That's like any other drug,
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Speaker 1: and society's convinced us that that was okay, but it's
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Speaker 1: really not. But there are good substitutes. So there are
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Speaker 1: What are some of the ones that you found that
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Speaker 1: that you love that I mean, I saw that you
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Speaker 1: did a little dessert on your Instagram. Now, I did
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Speaker 1: do the glucose monitor for a while because I'll be
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Speaker 1: honest too, I I was pre diabetic, so my doctor
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Speaker 1: put me on first Wigovy, which I have to say
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Speaker 1: was the worst thing. Yeah, you're gonna lose what ladies
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Speaker 1: out there, you are gonna lose weight on it because
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Speaker 1: you're gonna feel chronically ill. It is not if if
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Speaker 1: feeling constantly nauseous is the way you want to well
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Speaker 1: you want to lose weight, then I recommend that drug.
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Speaker 1: But then she put me on Mongourno, and then of
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Speaker 1: course you lose muscle max So there's ultimately you don't
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Speaker 1: want to be on these drugs. You want to do
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Speaker 1: the healthy thing. That's the rest of your life. You
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Speaker 1: can eat this way and be satisfied with it. So
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Speaker 1: what are some of your hats?
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Speaker 6: Oh?
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Speaker 1: What I was going to say is I did the
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Speaker 1: glucose monitor and I was eating a bunch of bananas
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Speaker 1: my glucose because I saw that was one on one
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Speaker 1: of your little plates where you put a banana and
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Speaker 1: then you had the chip. I thought, well, I actually
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Speaker 1: can't eat bananas. Looks sounds because it would just shoot right.
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Speaker 5: Through the roof.
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Speaker 1: For sugar yet, but so each person's individual. But what
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Speaker 1: have you found that people could try that you recommend
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Speaker 1: that are good substitutes.
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Speaker 2: So don't get me wrong. Like I eat a little
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Speaker 2: bit of ketchup, if I have a few French fries
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Speaker 2: or I like to dip some eggs in it. I
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Speaker 2: will eat some peanut butter that has sugar in it
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Speaker 2: that I'm not giving up. But I do not eat
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Speaker 2: sugary desserts, and I don't I try not to eat
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Speaker 2: anything with refined sugar, so I look at the labels
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Speaker 2: when I shop. So like brown rice syrup is a
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Speaker 2: good substitute, date date syrup, date sugar, coconut sugar. My
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Speaker 2: challenge is starting to bake. I can bake gluten free,
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Speaker 2: but baking gluten free and sugar free good luck. That's
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Speaker 2: hard to make things that are really good. It's possible,
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Speaker 2: and I'm doing it, but I'll have maple syrup. So
19:14
Speaker 2: glucose is not really what I'm concerned about, even though
19:17
Speaker 2: I should be because I was also pre diabetic, so
19:21
Speaker 2: I was almost scared into doing this as well. I
19:25
Speaker 2: just know that if I that if I don't eat
19:27
Speaker 2: refined sugar in any more than like you know, two
19:30
Speaker 2: grams at a time or whatever it is. Then I
19:33
Speaker 2: don't I don't spike, I don't drop, I don't crave.
19:37
Speaker 2: And that's what that's my goal. So let's see, when
19:42
Speaker 2: I want something really sweet, I'll go for like a
19:45
Speaker 2: Laera bar. There's a peanut butter and chocolate chip one. Yeah,
19:48
Speaker 2: there might be down and there's brown rice syrup or
19:50
Speaker 2: whatever it is. But I feel like I get what
19:53
Speaker 2: I need. I'm not neurotic about it. I'm not going crazy.
19:57
Speaker 2: I'm not guilty. I'm not cheating, and it doesn't say
20:00
Speaker 2: me into a tailspin. Once in a while, I'll drizzle
20:02
Speaker 2: a gave a gave syrup on. I'll have a rice
20:06
Speaker 2: cake and I'll put peanut butter, sliced bananas, a little
20:09
Speaker 2: cinnamon and all drizzle some agave or a little maple syrup.
20:12
Speaker 2: And I mean not like a big drizzle, just a
20:14
Speaker 2: little bit. You get the taste, you feel like you're
20:16
Speaker 2: eating this sweet thing and it's delicious. So I know,
20:19
Speaker 2: if you're diabetic or you're pre diabetic, you have different concerns.
20:23
Speaker 2: But for me, that's what I do. I'll have like
20:26
Speaker 2: a healthy you know bar or something like that.
20:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, so do you try to incorporate a lot of
20:31
Speaker 1: these things in your recipes on your show? Because I
20:33
Speaker 1: noticed on your show you've got pancakes and yeah, no
20:37
Speaker 1: sweet not fun things.
20:39
Speaker 2: No, the show had I think zero. I mean I
20:41
Speaker 2: think we roasted asparagus. That was the healthiest thing we did. No, no, no, no.
20:47
Speaker 2: And it's funny because it's that was never the goal.
20:50
Speaker 2: It's it's like, and the thing is, when I tasted
20:53
Speaker 2: the food, ninety percent of the time, I turned around
20:57
Speaker 2: and spit it out in the sink and rinsed my
20:59
Speaker 2: mouth out. And people are like, don't say that stuff
21:01
Speaker 2: because it's like, it's not healthy to talk about that
21:03
Speaker 2: because it sounds like it's bulimia or whatever. No, I
21:06
Speaker 2: don't swallow it and throw it up. And I know
21:09
Speaker 2: it's a sensitive topic. It's a sensitive like all these
21:12
Speaker 2: other topics are sensitive. There's ways we can talk about
21:15
Speaker 2: it that doesn't, you know, make you look you're a
21:19
Speaker 2: hiding anything or influencing someone in a negative way. If
21:25
Speaker 2: somebody wants to taste something and spit it out. I
21:27
Speaker 2: do that with desserts because I found if I want
21:32
Speaker 2: to taste it, I put in my mouth like a brownie.
21:34
Speaker 2: I made brownies last night. I'm doing a radio show
21:36
Speaker 2: tomorrow morning. I love to bring desserts for people. So
21:38
Speaker 2: I made these caramel Heath Bar brownies. They were insane
21:43
Speaker 2: by this great baker. I made these brownies. I put
21:47
Speaker 2: in my mouth. I took a bite and it was
21:49
Speaker 2: all over my tongue, my teeth, and then I spit
21:52
Speaker 2: it out and then I rinsed my mouth out. I
21:54
Speaker 2: got I took my finger. I mean, this is this
21:56
Speaker 2: is I'm telling you the truth. I spit it out
21:59
Speaker 2: and about that three four times and that did it.
22:04
Speaker 2: So I got to taste it, and it's it's a
22:06
Speaker 2: little psycho, but I don't care. I don't care for
22:09
Speaker 2: anybody things.
22:10
Speaker 1: I don't think that is. You get to enjoy it,
22:12
Speaker 1: and you get to enjoy it, but it doesn't, you know,
22:15
Speaker 1: have long term repercussions. Well, you know, as as the
22:19
Speaker 1: Mom's Club where we have talked about families and kids
22:23
Speaker 1: and everything. Now, you grew up an incredibly famous family.
22:27
Speaker 1: Of course, your dad is Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys,
22:29
Speaker 1: who's you know, a true rock legend, and Marilyn Ravel
22:34
Speaker 1: of the Honey So you and you mentioned you grew
22:36
Speaker 1: up in kind of a dysfunctional family. So what was it?
22:39
Speaker 1: What was it like growing up in a family that's
22:43
Speaker 1: that iconic, truly, I mean, what was that like?
22:48
Speaker 2: Well, uh, I mean there's a lot of ways there
22:52
Speaker 2: are there's a lot of ways to answer that. You know,
22:54
Speaker 2: it's it was privileged in a lot of ways. We
23:01
Speaker 2: didn't worry about money. I went to a private school.
23:06
Speaker 2: You know, I wasn't. I was a spoiled kid, but
23:08
Speaker 2: I wasn't demanding. Well my teenage years, I wanted I
23:12
Speaker 2: mean shopping, you talked about shopping. Oh god, And I
23:15
Speaker 2: still I still love it. I don't know how to
23:18
Speaker 2: manage money, I really don't. I still don't. But I
23:22
Speaker 2: remember just, you know, never really being able to experience
23:26
Speaker 2: sort of that mother father sitting around the dining table
23:30
Speaker 2: eating dinner together. It was it wasn't like that for us,
23:34
Speaker 2: and so that I really missed missed out on that.
23:38
Speaker 2: And but some of the beautiful things. There was always
23:42
Speaker 2: music playing. We were a musical household. My mother was
23:47
Speaker 2: very loving and expressive with her love and a great
23:51
Speaker 2: a very young. I mean she had me at twenty
23:53
Speaker 2: years old. I mean that's like my daughter giving birth
23:55
Speaker 2: in eleven months, and I just I can't believe that
23:59
Speaker 2: she really said sacrificed her youth. I think she got
24:02
Speaker 2: married at sixteen, and you know, my dad was struggling
24:06
Speaker 2: with a lot of mental issues and you know, so successful,
24:10
Speaker 2: and it was a difficult childhood because I did yearn
24:16
Speaker 2: to have that father figure and my grandpa. We talked
24:20
Speaker 2: about my grandma being a great, you know, baker and cook.
24:23
Speaker 2: My grandpa Irving Irv. He was from Germany at a
24:27
Speaker 2: thick accent, and he was so tall and so sweet
24:30
Speaker 2: and loving and funny, and he was really great. They
24:33
Speaker 2: came over every weekend, so it was like my household
24:36
Speaker 2: was filled with relatives and we had parties and there
24:40
Speaker 2: was food and so it wasn't that it was always
24:43
Speaker 2: bad or negative. It's just that my dad had some odd,
24:48
Speaker 2: you know, wacky behavior, and at some point my mom
24:51
Speaker 2: was like, this is too much, this is too dysfunctional,
24:54
Speaker 2: and for our safety and our well being, they divorced
24:59
Speaker 2: and and that was hard. I'm not gonna sugarcoat anything.
25:03
Speaker 2: I never do.
25:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, So how did all that translate now you've been
25:06
Speaker 1: married twenty four years?
25:09
Speaker 6: Yes, I mean, I.
25:10
Speaker 1: Don't know if they give awards or records here in Hollywood,
25:12
Speaker 1: but you know you probably are vying for that. And
25:15
Speaker 1: you have two lovely daughters, like you said, and looking
25:19
Speaker 1: at it as a as a fan just watching you know,
25:22
Speaker 1: look at your Instagram page and things like that. You
25:24
Speaker 1: have a pretty normal looking family. I mean, your family
25:27
Speaker 1: life now looks like it's very all American sort of family.
25:32
Speaker 1: So how did that translate? Did you intentionally seek that
25:36
Speaker 1: kind of life for yourself with your own family or
25:39
Speaker 1: you know, I.
25:42
Speaker 2: Just think because of all the therapy I've had my Sobriety,
25:46
Speaker 2: my my program, my husband, he's he's like a normy,
25:52
Speaker 2: you know, he's a great guy, a great father, and
25:56
Speaker 2: there We've always been on the same page with our
25:59
Speaker 2: children and we communicate pretty well. But we also have
26:05
Speaker 2: have our own issues too. I mean, it's like, what
26:08
Speaker 2: it's all sacrifice, it's all compromise, not sacrifices, compromise, you know,
26:13
Speaker 2: and like the priorities of what's really important here we
26:16
Speaker 2: bigger constantly why do you do that? Why do you
26:18
Speaker 2: do this that way? What you're annoying with this? And
26:20
Speaker 2: then I go, well, what are the really important things? Trust?
26:24
Speaker 2: Trust is number one? You know, showing your love, not
26:31
Speaker 2: not not drifting so much on your own fears, you know,
26:36
Speaker 2: telling your partners the things that you're afraid of, the
26:38
Speaker 2: things that you appreciate, the things you love, doing, doing
26:41
Speaker 2: acts of kindness, making sure that we sit down for dinner,
26:47
Speaker 2: making sure that we that these kids know that we
26:49
Speaker 2: love them. When but I have to be honest. Sometimes
26:52
Speaker 2: when we're at the table and we're all sitting there
26:56
Speaker 2: and I see all of us sitting there, I sort
26:59
Speaker 2: of have like these moments of like almost outer body experiences,
27:03
Speaker 2: like I'm like, I'm back. I sit back, and I
27:05
Speaker 2: look at the picture and I look at and I go, oh,
27:07
Speaker 2: my god, this is what's in my head. Wow, we're
27:10
Speaker 2: a family, to say, these are my two daughters, here's
27:13
Speaker 2: my husband, and we're having dinner, and it sometimes it
27:16
Speaker 2: feels not uncomfortable, but sad. And I think it's just
27:21
Speaker 2: the sadness for my own childhood and my own self.
27:26
Speaker 2: And then I go, well, that's being selfish because now
27:28
Speaker 2: you're thinking about yourself. But it's hard. It's human nature.
27:33
Speaker 2: So when I start to go there, I go, don't
27:36
Speaker 2: be negative, don't do that. Be in the moment. It's
27:39
Speaker 2: good it's good, it's good, and it's for them. So
27:44
Speaker 2: I think a good mom puts her children first. There
27:49
Speaker 2: well being first, and we've got to take care of
27:52
Speaker 2: ourselves to be there for them, you know, like you're
27:55
Speaker 2: on an airplane, you need to put that mask on
27:57
Speaker 2: you first before I put it on your kids. But
28:00
Speaker 2: it is such a balance, and I think that really
28:02
Speaker 2: is the key. It's just a balance.
28:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, your daughters, I know one of them sings because
28:08
Speaker 1: I've seen her on TV performing, So does do both
28:12
Speaker 1: your daughters? Are they both singers or they both have
28:15
Speaker 1: that talent.
28:15
Speaker 2: Or yes they are, but one of them just will not.
28:19
Speaker 2: Lucy just refuses to do it in public's or even
28:23
Speaker 2: in front of me. She used to, And I go
28:25
Speaker 2: back to all my videos because I was so obsessive
28:27
Speaker 2: with filming us, you know, recording us. Oh my god,
28:31
Speaker 2: it was Oh Lucy was like five singing three part harmony. Yeah,
28:37
Speaker 2: we're definitely all musical together and it is the most
28:40
Speaker 2: beautiful thing ever to be able to sing with them.
28:44
Speaker 2: I have a show next month with Lola. We're doing
28:46
Speaker 2: this this private show. We do big shows and private shows,
28:50
Speaker 2: and we have a private show on August tenth, and
28:55
Speaker 2: I'm so excited. We're just singing a few songs. But
28:58
Speaker 2: it's Lola and my husband and they're going to.
29:00
Speaker 1: Sing Oh wow, yeah, no, that's great. Well, yeah, because
29:04
Speaker 1: I'm not very good at matt That's why I went
29:06
Speaker 1: to law school. But I can't count to three. And
29:08
Speaker 1: I thought, wait, she's got two daughters, so she was
29:11
Speaker 1: this icon of the nineties trio. What about you know,
29:17
Speaker 1: she and her daughters. That's the next group. And then
29:19
Speaker 1: they can have a whole private you know, it's part
29:21
Speaker 1: of the rock and roll Hall of thing, can be
29:22
Speaker 1: dedicated to your whole family, because that would be amazing,
29:27
Speaker 1: love amazing, it would it would.
29:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I like the way you think. But yeah,
29:33
Speaker 2: I like to think that that kind of stuff is
29:36
Speaker 2: not I mean, I know it's sensational in some way,
29:40
Speaker 2: but it's never my goal. You know. I was born
29:44
Speaker 2: into this and it is my place and it's my
29:47
Speaker 2: happiness and my joy music singing. And the fact that
29:51
Speaker 2: my daughters love that too is really a blessing. And
29:55
Speaker 2: if they said to me, Mom, I want to be
29:57
Speaker 2: a doctor, I want to be a plumber, I want
29:59
Speaker 2: to be a receptionist, I want to be you know,
30:02
Speaker 2: an anthropologist or whatever. I would say, great, but the
30:05
Speaker 2: fact that it is music. I'm going to have to
30:07
Speaker 2: admit one thing. When the babies were in my belly,
30:10
Speaker 2: my husband and I prayed more than once. We would go,
30:14
Speaker 2: please God, let them musical. Please don't let them be
30:16
Speaker 2: tone deaf. Please no tone deaf, because that would really
30:18
Speaker 2: be bad. So they weren't tone deaf.
30:22
Speaker 1: Because, well, you would have been really disappointed if this
30:25
Speaker 1: is if I was the result. So lucky you. You've
30:28
Speaker 1: got two very talented daughters. Well, Carnie, we have some
30:31
Speaker 1: other moms who would love to talk to you, and
30:33
Speaker 1: those are our Zoomer moms. So welcome zumber moms. Welcome
30:37
Speaker 1: to the Mom's Club. Ladies. I know you've got a
30:46
Speaker 1: lot of questions for Carney, so I am going to
30:49
Speaker 1: go around and introduce each one of you, and so
30:51
Speaker 1: please tell us a little bit about yourselves. And you
30:54
Speaker 1: have a question for Carnie as Chaffali, Welcome to the
30:56
Speaker 1: Mom's Club. Tell us a little bit about yourself.
31:00
Speaker 7: Hi, how are you, Carnie. It's so great to meet you.
31:04
Speaker 7: I told some girlfriends.
31:06
Speaker 2: The other evening I was going to be on this and.
31:09
Speaker 7: Get to meet you, and they broke out in their
31:11
Speaker 7: own rendition of hold On. It was terrible, but also
31:14
Speaker 7: a horrible it was adorable. So I live in Princeton,
31:19
Speaker 7: New Jersey. I've known Monica and her husband and their
31:22
Speaker 7: kids for a number of years. I have an eleven
31:25
Speaker 7: year old daughter, and so just hearing you talk about
31:29
Speaker 7: your girls and how involved they are in so many
31:32
Speaker 7: of the things that you are passionate about was just
31:35
Speaker 7: really special and really moving. And as one of my
31:37
Speaker 7: questions when it comes from that, did you find that
31:41
Speaker 7: you had to sort of encourage them to do these
31:44
Speaker 7: things that you love or did they naturally migrate to it?
31:48
Speaker 7: And I asked because I'm sort of approaching this phase
31:50
Speaker 7: with an eleven year old who used to want to
31:52
Speaker 7: do everything that I did.
31:55
Speaker 2: To now it's you know.
31:56
Speaker 7: She can kind of take it or leave it sometimes,
31:59
Speaker 7: and I want her to be your own person and
32:01
Speaker 7: find your own passions, but I also want her.
32:04
Speaker 2: To do things with me. Ah, that's great. That's a
32:10
Speaker 2: great question. And it's nice to meet you too. You know,
32:15
Speaker 2: I think for me the most important thing was always
32:18
Speaker 2: expressing to them I don't care what you do. I
32:22
Speaker 2: just want you to feel passionate about something, you know,
32:26
Speaker 2: tap into something that makes you feel good or you
32:30
Speaker 2: know some of you gravitate towards and that I think
32:34
Speaker 2: ultimately will lead to their happiness because it will be
32:38
Speaker 2: authentic from within them. And they might know when they're eleven,
32:43
Speaker 2: like your daughter. They might know when they're fifteen, they
32:45
Speaker 2: might know when they're forty, who knows. But as long
32:49
Speaker 2: as they know that they deserve to feel passionate about
32:54
Speaker 2: something and that something can make them feel happy. I
32:57
Speaker 2: think that now it's easy for kids to become depressed
33:03
Speaker 2: and lost, because I do think COVID had a big
33:07
Speaker 2: part of that. I think it really threw a wrench
33:10
Speaker 2: in it for adults as well, and how we approach
33:13
Speaker 2: parenting them. And I do have and my Lucy can
33:17
Speaker 2: is sensitive, so and we're all sensitive. But I think
33:21
Speaker 2: just the most important thing, like saying to them it's
33:24
Speaker 2: really like without putting like this negative cloud over it,
33:28
Speaker 2: like they say, like life is short, because you know
33:30
Speaker 2: you get older, we always say life is short. Make
33:33
Speaker 2: the most of it. You know, you don't want to
33:35
Speaker 2: make these kids feel like they're in a hurry or
33:37
Speaker 2: that you know that we're all doomed. I mean we are,
33:40
Speaker 2: but like, we have to make the most of this.
33:43
Speaker 2: So I don't want to say those things, but I
33:46
Speaker 2: want to say to them, let's spend time together. Let's
33:50
Speaker 2: make sure if you want to do this or you
33:52
Speaker 2: like that, go do that. But let's find something we
33:55
Speaker 2: can do together. And I'm not this poster child for that. Okay,
34:00
Speaker 2: it doesn't always happen, but just little things like once
34:05
Speaker 2: some I say, please, can we go bowling? I know
34:07
Speaker 2: you guys hate it, but I love bowling. Can we
34:09
Speaker 2: just go? So we make sure that one of the
34:11
Speaker 2: birthdays we have bowling party, or you know, we take
34:15
Speaker 2: a walk together, or we go in the kitchen we
34:17
Speaker 2: make some cookies or brownies together, whatever that is, or
34:20
Speaker 2: we go to a movie together, or we go to
34:22
Speaker 2: a concert together, or they come on stage and sing
34:24
Speaker 2: with me, whatever it is that we can incorporate together.
34:28
Speaker 2: I think that's important. But it's not my ideas too,
34:31
Speaker 2: not just my ideas, asking that what do you think
34:34
Speaker 2: we could do? What do you think be fun? Like
34:36
Speaker 2: I'd say, let's go to Michael's and let's go to
34:38
Speaker 2: the craft store. Let's get something and let's you know,
34:42
Speaker 2: let's oh, like for instance, right, now I want to
34:45
Speaker 2: paint the walls inside our house, and I said, let's
34:48
Speaker 2: do that together as a family. My husband's a great painter.
34:51
Speaker 2: He used to do that before he met me. He
34:53
Speaker 2: was painting and playing music. But he's like an awesome painter.
34:56
Speaker 2: So I'm like, great, let's get the roller and do
34:58
Speaker 2: it together. Stuff like that.
35:01
Speaker 1: That's great. Yeah, that's great, you know actually, and it's
35:04
Speaker 1: good you mentioned asking the kids what they really want
35:07
Speaker 1: to do. I think sometimes what parents do and what
35:09
Speaker 1: moms do especially, and I know I was guilty of
35:11
Speaker 1: it sometimes choosing things that I think, well, that's going
35:14
Speaker 1: to look great on your college resume, so you need
35:16
Speaker 1: to go do whatever and not really letting them drive it. Jennifer,
35:21
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Mom's Club. Tell us a little bit
35:23
Speaker 1: about yourself, and do you have a question for Corney.
35:27
Speaker 6: I do.
35:28
Speaker 2: I have so many questions, Carne.
35:29
Speaker 3: So well ask one to so fun to hear all
35:33
Speaker 3: about what you're up to now.
35:36
Speaker 6: I live in Austin, Texas. I have an architectural practice.
35:39
Speaker 6: I have about to be a free bird. I have
35:42
Speaker 6: a child going off to college, my last and one
35:46
Speaker 6: who just graduated from college. So I'm moving into the
35:49
Speaker 6: period where my kids are adults and actually need to
35:53
Speaker 6: learn them to cook for themselves.
35:54
Speaker 8: And you know, in Austin, we like food almost as
35:58
Speaker 8: much as music, and you know, so there's a lot
36:02
Speaker 8: of interesting food happening here. And you know, I have
36:07
Speaker 8: cooked a lot with my kids, even though I am
36:09
Speaker 8: not the best cook.
36:10
Speaker 5: That was my mother's gift.
36:12
Speaker 2: And I was the kid like.
36:13
Speaker 3: Your daughter, who was chopping things up for my mom
36:16
Speaker 3: and you know, just being her sous chef. And because
36:19
Speaker 3: I'm good with a knife. But I'm now I have
36:22
Speaker 3: more time. And I've loved watching your show because the
36:27
Speaker 3: music and the cooking they sort of go hand in hand.
36:30
Speaker 3: And you can tell that you're so collaborative. And so
36:34
Speaker 3: I know you said you mentioned using recipes, but I
36:38
Speaker 3: mean how much. I mean you're such a creative person,
36:40
Speaker 3: Like how much of it are you sort of riffing
36:43
Speaker 3: off of the recipe? Do you make your own recipes?
36:46
Speaker 3: Like what is what do you love to do in
36:48
Speaker 3: the kitchen? Like is it like baking is really by
36:52
Speaker 3: the book? And I can see you bake a lot,
36:53
Speaker 3: but you also do a lot of savory cooking that
36:55
Speaker 3: looks a little bit like it could you could get
36:57
Speaker 3: more creative.
36:58
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, first of all, lola Is has transferred. Now
37:03
Speaker 2: she's going to be staying in a dorm about an
37:05
Speaker 2: hour and a half away. So she said, you momic
37:07
Speaker 2: it could be on the East coast because I'm in
37:09
Speaker 2: La So I'm like, you're right, You're right. I'm not
37:11
Speaker 2: going to go crazy. I'm going to miss you so much.
37:13
Speaker 2: So I want to ask you questions about how you're
37:16
Speaker 2: dealing with that, because that's I'm very very close with her,
37:21
Speaker 2: and I know that when she leaves and she said
37:23
Speaker 2: to me, I'm you know, I'm scared to go. I said,
37:25
Speaker 2: You're going to be great, and we just a car
37:28
Speaker 2: right away, you know. But you know, in terms of
37:32
Speaker 2: the recipes, it's funny because I try to look at
37:36
Speaker 2: meals like protein first, right, So I sent her a
37:41
Speaker 2: meal around a protein and I'm a little obsessive about
37:44
Speaker 2: it actually, and that I think that started after I
37:46
Speaker 2: had that surgery that helped me lose a lot of weight,
37:49
Speaker 2: where we were focusing on protein. But I think it's
37:51
Speaker 2: healthy for your muscles, So protein, you know. One God,
37:55
Speaker 2: I'm always making different meals for everyone. It drives me crazy.
37:58
Speaker 2: Lucy doesn't want to eat what everybody else seats, you know,
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Speaker 2: and we kind of all have different tastes. So I
38:03
Speaker 2: start thinking about a protein, and sometimes I follow a recipe.
38:09
Speaker 2: I'll think of a chef, like I'll think, oh, oh, Jiada,
38:12
Speaker 2: Jiada has a great turkey meatball recipe, so I'll go
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Speaker 2: grab her book and I'll do that. And now I
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Speaker 2: think I'm sort of like I'm a little more confident
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Speaker 2: in with making up my own. So like, like two
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Speaker 2: days ago, I made I took pork and beef and
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Speaker 2: made meatballs, and I was like, all right, I've done
38:30
Speaker 2: this so many different ways I found. I go, I
38:33
Speaker 2: spend time at the market and I look around and
38:36
Speaker 2: I go, I'm making meatballs. What can I do to
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Speaker 2: this meatball that will make it really good and different?
38:41
Speaker 2: I found these baby pearls of cheese. They're kind of
38:43
Speaker 2: like a provlon and a mozzarella combined, and I thought,
38:47
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stuff them with those little balls and cheese. Great,
38:50
Speaker 2: got fresh parsley, I got regular parmesan, you know, and milk,
38:55
Speaker 2: but I did gluten free bread crumbs, so I soaked
38:59
Speaker 2: the bread crumbs. Like learning how to cook, I think
39:02
Speaker 2: a lot of it is not being afraid to fail.
39:06
Speaker 2: So I've had a lot of meals where I'm like,
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Speaker 2: oh wow, this tastes awful. Throw it out. I had
39:10
Speaker 2: to throw it out. It's not even edible. Throw it out. Okay,
39:13
Speaker 2: what did I do wrong? Learn from it? So I
39:16
Speaker 2: fall back on my mistakes. I fall back on my successes.
39:20
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean it's kind of like figuring out
39:23
Speaker 2: for your family what do you like to eat? What
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Speaker 2: do you like to eat? And I sort of try
39:28
Speaker 2: to like please everyone. I like everything except liver and caviar,
39:32
Speaker 2: anything except liver and caviar. So you can put anything
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Speaker 2: in front of me and I'll be happy you know
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Speaker 2: most of it. But I'm trying to narrow this answer down.
39:43
Speaker 2: I think it's about experimenting and trusting your instincts and
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Speaker 2: not being afraid to use salt, citrus, and herbs. So
39:52
Speaker 2: if you spices, herbs, salt citrus, if you have that
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Speaker 2: in your cooking, I'm telling you that it's gonna taste good.
40:03
Speaker 2: It's learning the balance. So let's just say you want
40:06
Speaker 2: to make a quick chicken dish. I always fall back
40:09
Speaker 2: on I pound the chicken thin, I saute it, I
40:12
Speaker 2: do cooking spray first, I do a little bit of
40:14
Speaker 2: olive oil. I see them with season with salt and pepper.
40:17
Speaker 2: I put the chicken breast in. Once in a while,
40:20
Speaker 2: I'll do like a gluten free flour and I'll or
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Speaker 2: cornstarch and I'll mix it with some hot water, declaze
40:27
Speaker 2: it with chicken broth, put some capers in, a tiny
40:30
Speaker 2: little pat of butter. Sometimes at the end there's there's
40:33
Speaker 2: just ways to like make things taste good. Lots of lemon,
40:37
Speaker 2: you can't go wrong with that ever, And it's is
40:40
Speaker 2: it on pasta? Is it on rice? Is it on
40:43
Speaker 2: a salad? You know you can cut it up, put
40:45
Speaker 2: it on a salad. Is it on quinoa? You know?
40:48
Speaker 2: I love queen Wan. Now I'm trying to make more
40:50
Speaker 2: stupfries with quen Wan brown rice. So yeah, it's like
40:55
Speaker 2: if you have an hour on a Sunday to kill,
40:57
Speaker 2: go experiment with something.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it sounds like that technique you could use
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Speaker 3: for fish or pork or like it's not.
41:04
Speaker 2: Just for um. Absolutely my new thing is making Like
41:08
Speaker 2: I go to this market called Ralphs out here. I
41:10
Speaker 2: don't think you have a rouse there, but it's like
41:13
Speaker 2: shaved beef really finely shaved beef like they use for
41:17
Speaker 2: Philly cheese steaks. Oh god, and then like just go
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Speaker 2: to town. In fact, I did it with with all
41:23
Speaker 2: my cooking show, but it was with we found out
41:25
Speaker 2: that he didn't eat meat. That was classic. I had
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Speaker 2: a guest on then he found out need so we
41:30
Speaker 2: had it. He told me he would do it. But anyway,
41:33
Speaker 2: you know, just making Philly cheeseteaks with peppers and onions
41:35
Speaker 2: and garlic and yeah. But I do believe in recipes.
41:41
Speaker 2: I do believe in that. And once you learn to
41:44
Speaker 2: follow recipes, then you can follow your own instincts.
41:48
Speaker 1: See. Yeah, and I've written down so I've written down salt,
41:51
Speaker 1: citrus and herbs. I'm actually I'm gonna try, you know.
41:55
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to give this a try. Yeah,
41:57
Speaker 1: because you know, I've been looking for the show that's
42:00
Speaker 1: called the America's Worst Cook because I'm definitely gonna apply
42:03
Speaker 1: if that happens. But I'm going to give it a try. Now,
42:06
Speaker 1: what came to mind while you were talking have any
42:10
Speaker 1: of your guests you said you had one guest that
42:11
Speaker 1: didn't eat meat, have any of even been like I'm
42:14
Speaker 1: as bad a cook as Monica Samuels from The Mom's
42:18
Speaker 1: I mean, can they all cook? Are they just there
42:21
Speaker 1: for the singing or the experience or like, what's your
42:26
Speaker 1: what guest has been the most proficient in the kitchen
42:30
Speaker 1: that you've enjoyed and who has been like just a
42:32
Speaker 1: fun guest that I've we've had that may may have
42:35
Speaker 1: just been.
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Speaker 2: Well, the David Archiletta from American Idol. He's a beautiful
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Speaker 2: singer and just a beautiful person and he has done
42:44
Speaker 2: like zero baking. And I thought, I wanted to make
42:47
Speaker 2: something really sweet because he's so sweet, So I thought
42:49
Speaker 2: the chocolate cupcakes. And he learned a lot, you know,
42:53
Speaker 2: he learned how to mix dry and wet and combine together,
42:56
Speaker 2: and how to pipe the frosting with you know, with
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Speaker 2: the pipe bag, and how to garnish. And it wasn't
43:04
Speaker 2: really the focus, Like it was more like come in
43:07
Speaker 2: the kitchen with me, and if you there's David, yeah,
43:11
Speaker 2: and if you do cook, then great. Like Lisa Lowe,
43:13
Speaker 2: she cooks. She in fact has a little Instagram thing
43:17
Speaker 2: herself where she cooks for her family, so she was
43:20
Speaker 2: more versed in the kitchen. But I mean, I think
43:25
Speaker 2: that was that's another reason why I wanted to do.
43:27
Speaker 2: The show is also to inspire people, like, don't feel
43:30
Speaker 2: it's so intimidated. I mean it is intimidating. All these
43:34
Speaker 2: chefs they go to school there. They have these culinary,
43:38
Speaker 2: you know, skills that I feel like I'll never have
43:41
Speaker 2: unless I go to school. And I'd love to go
43:42
Speaker 2: to school one day. I would love to. But you know,
43:46
Speaker 2: can you chop? There are certain knives that are better.
43:49
Speaker 2: Can you chop? Can you whatever? Yeah, you just learned
43:52
Speaker 2: this little by little. I mean I've been cooking and
43:55
Speaker 2: making for a long time, so I've made it a passion.
43:58
Speaker 2: I've made it a mission to become better at it.
44:01
Speaker 2: And the only way to become better at something is
44:03
Speaker 2: to fail and learn from your mistakes.
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Speaker 1: Well, you've certainly inspired me, and I may make some
44:09
Speaker 1: brownies and send them to you to try, and if
44:11
Speaker 1: you take a bite and spit them out, then I
44:13
Speaker 1: will just take that as a compliment. Angela, Welcome to
44:18
Speaker 1: the Mom's Club. Tell us a little bit about yourself,
44:20
Speaker 1: and do you have a question for Carney.
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Speaker 5: Yes, thank you for having me. I am a mom
44:25
Speaker 5: of two boys, seven and ten, so things are always
44:28
Speaker 5: very exciting. There are several different hats of an assistant
44:34
Speaker 5: to a judge here in North Carolina where I live,
44:40
Speaker 5: CrossFit athlete, breast cancer survivor, and just return from a
44:46
Speaker 5: trip from Uganda where I feel like I reset my
44:49
Speaker 5: body in two weeks without having any processed foods and
44:53
Speaker 5: if they had sugar, it was sugarcane, not refined sugar.
44:57
Speaker 5: So cowy. It was interesting coming back to dates and
45:00
Speaker 5: having even just a little bit of refined sugar it
45:05
Speaker 5: sent my body. So I definitely understand your perspective with
45:08
Speaker 5: the sugar. I'm also gluten free as well and cook
45:12
Speaker 5: with a lot of I watch my macros and for
45:16
Speaker 5: those that don't know, macros is a protein priority, so
45:21
Speaker 5: I use a lot of protein powder. My question is, sorry,
45:24
Speaker 5: just to give you a little context on that.
45:27
Speaker 2: Huh.
45:29
Speaker 5: Yeah. My boys, I have two very different personalities in
45:34
Speaker 5: my boys. I have one boy who will try some vegetables.
45:38
Speaker 5: We eat pretty healthy, but they still have a snack drawer,
45:43
Speaker 5: you know, not a lot of chips in the house.
45:45
Speaker 5: But then I have one child who won't eat anything,
45:50
Speaker 5: and so it's not a it's a personality thing for him,
45:53
Speaker 5: not necessarily how he's been raised. Because my other child
45:56
Speaker 5: will try everything, any creative ideas besides. I mean we've
46:01
Speaker 5: gone to the grocery store, let him pick out stuff.
46:03
Speaker 5: We've tried to get him to cook. His famous line
46:07
Speaker 5: is it's spicy. I mean for everything, it's spicy. But
46:10
Speaker 5: just to get him to try new things. I mean
46:12
Speaker 5: we've had a three day standoff before with this child.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, First of all, congratulations, you're pretty badass. I
46:23
Speaker 2: know that I have one. I have the same thing
46:29
Speaker 2: Lucy just and I hate like just talking about her,
46:31
Speaker 2: but it's I do have one child that just doesn't
46:33
Speaker 2: want to try things. It's really difficult. And as a mom,
46:39
Speaker 2: I find like I go into this like almost internal panic,
46:42
Speaker 2: like they're not gonna get into a protein, They're not
46:44
Speaker 2: gonna grow right, They're gonna develop diseases. They're they're on
46:47
Speaker 2: the trajectory is not good. The path is bad. And
46:50
Speaker 2: I find that when they get to a certain age,
46:53
Speaker 2: because I think yours are still young, right, young it's fifteen, right,
46:59
Speaker 2: So like I try to say to them, look, when
47:02
Speaker 2: you eat certain foods, like they make you feel good,
47:06
Speaker 2: So like this is going to help you feel good.
47:08
Speaker 2: You want to run and play and have your energy
47:10
Speaker 2: to play eat some of this, and it's gonna better.
47:12
Speaker 2: You're gonna have more energy to run, you can play more.
47:15
Speaker 2: I try to like, I would try to trick them
47:17
Speaker 2: like that. Also, you've got to be creative, and I don't.
47:22
Speaker 2: I'm not great in this area. I just know that.
47:26
Speaker 2: What So the boy that doesn't want to eat a lot,
47:29
Speaker 2: what does he like?
47:31
Speaker 5: He does pread well with yogurt, cheese, steicks, but he
47:36
Speaker 5: will not eat meat. He will not eat vegetables, which is,
47:40
Speaker 5: you know, two of the main things you're supposed to
47:41
Speaker 5: look at.
47:42
Speaker 2: What about pasta?
47:44
Speaker 5: Nope, no pasta, no cheese, no pizza, No, We're down
47:50
Speaker 5: at peanut butter jellies.
47:52
Speaker 2: Okay, French fries yeah.
47:55
Speaker 5: Hell eat French fries and chicken nuggets. I mean that's
47:57
Speaker 5: the normal kid.
47:58
Speaker 2: Chicken nug's okay, great, well, good, at least you got
48:00
Speaker 2: chicken nuggets. So I would say, wait, I'm sorry to ask,
48:05
Speaker 2: what kind of chicken nuggets?
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Speaker 4: Like store kind? I have tried to make gluten free, right,
48:13
Speaker 4: so like the dinos or whatever? Oh, Tyson ones.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that. That's interesting because I thought that
48:22
Speaker 2: Tyson ones have like a lot of pepper. The ones
48:25
Speaker 2: that I tried. They're a little peppery. It's interesting. So
48:29
Speaker 2: he likes dairy, he likes cheese, but he doesn't like
48:33
Speaker 2: bread or pizza or like Carbie pasta stuff. Okay, you know, Wow,
48:44
Speaker 2: that's tough. I don't know if I've ever heard about
48:47
Speaker 2: a child not liking pasta. That might be the first
48:51
Speaker 2: I would say. If he is willing to eat the
48:54
Speaker 2: chicken nuggets, I would say, start experimenting in your kitchen.
48:59
Speaker 2: But he is eating those, I will go for the
49:01
Speaker 2: healthiest one. Go to a whole foods, try to find
49:05
Speaker 2: the healthiest ones and let me think for a minute.
49:10
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I wasn't expecting this. I you know what, Angela,
49:16
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you my information after this, because I
49:19
Speaker 2: really I really would love to like like let this
49:23
Speaker 2: like marinate a little bit, no pun intended, And I
49:28
Speaker 2: want to find something that I think would be great.
49:30
Speaker 1: This sounds like the start of another show where you
49:33
Speaker 1: kind of can if you can figure out what this
49:35
Speaker 1: child will eat, then you win the prize. That may
49:37
Speaker 1: be a good show. Carolyn, Welcome to the Mom's Club.
49:40
Speaker 1: Could tell us a little bit about yourself and can
49:42
Speaker 1: you ask a quick question of Carney.
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Speaker 9: Sure, well, I love all these comments. I think it's
49:47
Speaker 9: so interesting, and thank you Carne for just enlightening us
49:50
Speaker 9: on everything. I think your life has been so fascinating
49:53
Speaker 9: and you've had these amazing experiences. So I'm just thinking
49:56
Speaker 9: of all the challenges and things you've faced in your life.
49:59
Speaker 9: What makes you mo proud as a mom to pass
50:01
Speaker 9: on to your girls, Like the things that you've learned
50:04
Speaker 9: and what you've you've kind of that wisdom you've gained
50:07
Speaker 9: through the years. I'm just curious about that.
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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for saying that. You know, I think,
50:15
Speaker 2: I mean, it jumped out at me right away when
50:17
Speaker 2: you asked, and that is that we all make mistakes,
50:21
Speaker 2: and I think and they can be just little mistakes
50:24
Speaker 2: or big mistakes. And for instance, you know, I when
50:31
Speaker 2: I get frazzled or stressed, I tend to like snap
50:36
Speaker 2: and like raise my voice. And and because it's like
50:39
Speaker 2: the dogs are always going crazy and barking and it's
50:42
Speaker 2: piercing bark and I'm and I'm like stop it, you know,
50:45
Speaker 2: I yell at the dog, stop it, you know, and
50:48
Speaker 2: and then it will translate, you know, like if they'll
50:50
Speaker 2: ask novel what and it's it's the tonal voice that's
50:55
Speaker 2: it's not kind. And so I will say to them,
50:58
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I raised my voice, I'm sorry I did that.
51:01
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have done that. You know how much I
51:04
Speaker 2: love you, you know. And I feel like because I'm
51:07
Speaker 2: able to like admit that I do something wrong or
51:10
Speaker 2: out of line, it gives them the permission if they
51:13
Speaker 2: screw up with something they make the misafe. They don't
51:15
Speaker 2: they didn't they knew, they didn't study hard enough and
51:18
Speaker 2: they did not get a good grade or they failed
51:20
Speaker 2: or whatever. They learned that there's a consequence to the action,
51:26
Speaker 2: and it's up to them to find their own the
51:30
Speaker 2: power inside themselves to make the decisions to be better.
51:35
Speaker 2: And I love giving my kids the power, their own
51:39
Speaker 2: power to make decisions, rather than me being like, you
51:43
Speaker 2: have to do this, you have to do that, you
51:46
Speaker 2: have to eat this, you have to eat that. I
51:49
Speaker 2: think it makes them feel like they're not good, they're
51:52
Speaker 2: not good enough, there's something wrong with them, because maybe
51:55
Speaker 2: they don't want to. But it's like it's like I said, well,
51:58
Speaker 2: if you do, if you do, make better choices, because
52:03
Speaker 2: it's all choices. If you make the better choice, you
52:06
Speaker 2: have the power to make that choice and then they
52:09
Speaker 2: see it when they do it. They see what happens
52:11
Speaker 2: when they do do it. You know you're not sleeping, Lucy,
52:15
Speaker 2: you want to stay up on your phone. Oh fine,
52:17
Speaker 2: Let's see how you feel at school the next day.
52:19
Speaker 2: She feels like crap. Then she has a better sleep
52:23
Speaker 2: and she feels better. Look at what happened. You chose
52:26
Speaker 2: to do that, and now you feel better.
52:28
Speaker 1: That is great, great advice. And Carne, you are such
52:30
Speaker 1: an inspiration. We are so thrilled. This time has just
52:33
Speaker 1: flown by. It has been amazing talking to you. Where
52:36
Speaker 1: can our moms out there find you? On social media?
52:41
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm not great with Facebook. I still
52:44
Speaker 2: haven't figured out how to use it and do it,
52:46
Speaker 2: which is really lame, I know. But I'm an Instagram girl.
52:49
Speaker 2: And usually the postings that I do with Instagram because
52:52
Speaker 2: now I have somebody writing my Facebook, I've never had
52:54
Speaker 2: anybody do that for me. If I finally went, I
52:56
Speaker 2: gotta do it. So everything I do on Instagram goes
52:58
Speaker 2: to Facebook now. But yeah, Instagram, and I'm really I'm
53:03
Speaker 2: really slow to answering my my direct messages and stuff.
53:06
Speaker 2: But give it a shot and there's a lot of people.
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Speaker 1: So is it at CARNEYE sixty eight? Is that where
53:12
Speaker 1: they can find you? On Instagram? Okay, well great, well,
53:14
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53:19
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53:21
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