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Should the NEW YORK RANGERS fire CHRIS DRURY? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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him, Ryan Spader. Ryan, I I know you know this guy
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right under yourself and he, he told me he's got some great
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stories, but I want to get into some baseball with you because a
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lot of people are questioning the Yankees, All right?
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Everybody says, oh, is this all they're going to do?
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They're going to add a player that they had last year.
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I think they got a player, a great player for five years.
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I'm sorry. I said thanks for that picture.
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There you go. It makes you look young Ryan,
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but they they added a player that they had last year on their
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roster, 1 of the better left-handed power hitters in
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baseball. Last year was very good.
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You know him, you know his stats, one of the better
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left-handed hitters. Your thoughts on the Yankees
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adding him and do you think not adding anybody else could cause
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the Yankees not making the playoffs?
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I don't think you're going to keep the Yankees out of the
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playoffs. But honestly, as a Phillies fan,
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I, I was glad to see that they didn't go on full tilt after
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Beau Bichette. I mean, I'm not going to say he
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backed out of the deal, but it it seemed like they were in
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agreement. I, I blame the Phillies for that
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piece of it because why'd it take them so long?
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And then they set themselves up in a position where Tucker signs
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that ridiculous deal, no longer able to sign with the Mets or
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excuse me, no longer able to sign with the Mets.
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And then he sends a deal with the Dodgers.
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That just kind of is a new type of deal in baseball, I guess, or
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at least until next season. And so they missed out on there.
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I thought they were going to go tilt and grab Bellinger.
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I think Belger is a great player, certainly a great
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fielder. And he certainly would be an
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upgrade in terms of defense for for the Phillies.
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But he, he stays with the Yankees, his, his bat on the
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road very similar to what the Phillies got from Nick
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Castillanos. And the good thing about him is
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he's probably the, if not one, if not the, but one of the best
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hitters for Yankee Stadium in the way that that thing's set
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up. He hits great in Yankee Stadium.
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He'll continue to do so. And I think it's a move that
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they had to make. Now, I, I don't love the length
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of that deal. I'm inclined to think that they
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will have him for the duration of it.
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I, I, I didn't think Bellinger was really a great option for
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more than three years, but they had to make that move.
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And I, I think that move is one that's going to keep them in a
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postseason run. I think another thing that's
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getting downplayed a bit here with the Yankees is, I mean,
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you're acquiring Garrett Cole, so the team's going to be
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better. No, it's, it's and I knew you
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were going to bring your Phillies up.
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I knew that was that was probably.
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Right off the bat. Yeah, I I knew that was going to
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happen. I know you well enough.
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But Dave came out and said in obviously Yankees ties with the
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obviously their manager in in Henry coach and Kevin Long and
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he said that they they were good were where they're at.
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Like does he really feel that way or they just didn't make a
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move for them? To.
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Take that next step and and also too, what are they going to do
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with Nick? What are they going to casting
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hops? What are they going to do?
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So I think Dave kind of feels rug pulled and I don't know that
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for sure, but I I think that they were pretty set on signing
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Bo Bichette and trying to set up a move to either move out home
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or potentially Bryson stop, but less likely as as far as Nick
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goes, It's one of the stranger things that I've I've seen from
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Philadelphia because the dude was being loved by fans in the
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early going. And frankly, in the last two
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post seasons, he's one of the only guys who've produced.
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So it's kind of strange to see fans kind of turn their back on
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a guy who, I mean, it's, it's kind of hard to dislike a guy
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who wants to go out there, play every single day.
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He shows up with his kid at the ballpark, interacting with them,
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stuff that's great for the game people love to see.
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But I think that as far as Nick Castillanos, as a Philly goes,
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I, I think that ship has sailed. I honestly thought he was going
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to end up with the Marlins. I guess they couldn't piece
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together a deal for Nick Castillanos, for Everett
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Cabrera. Yeah, because that's where he
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lives. Yeah, and I, I, honestly, I
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thought he was going to torment the Phillies playing with the
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Marlins. And I I honestly, I wouldn't be
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surprised if he still ends up there.
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So what about the the Mets offseason that we've seen just
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basically switching players around in their lineup and they
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finally get a Freddy Peralta, They finally get a pitcher.
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Is it a good offseason? Is it bad?
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Is it something that could get David Stearns fired at this
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point? It's a very good offseason,
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especially when you consider where they started losing Pete
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Alonso. Now, in hindsight, are you like,
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you know, we just allocated all that money to Beau Michette.
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We probably could have signed our guy Pete Alonso.
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And if you look at their numbers in terms of the the metrics,
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Alonso's far and away a better offensive player.
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But as as any baseball guy, I'll tell you it's a lot easier to
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recover offense at first base than it is going to be from the
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middle of the infield or if he ends up third base.
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And I, I think that overall you're probably looking at a, a
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net, even if not a a little bit better there.
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I do think Alonso is going to be pretty good in Camden Yards,
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however. He's probably like, all right,
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why'd you guys pull the push the fences back at this point?
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And I, I think the Mets have in, I don't know, it was like a
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matter of like 50 hours completely taken over as a front
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runner right behind the Dodgers in terms of their, their
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offseason ads. Listen to this guy.
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We are talking to the the ace of spaders.com baseball analyst and
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statistician Ryan Spader. You know, I, I'm very surprised
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you went that way. You think they're the second
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best team in the National League.
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I disagree. I said second best offseason.
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Let's all. Right, All right, All right, all
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right, All right. I was about to say, I mean, I'm
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a you know, I'm kind of like stunned that you went you went
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that way. But you know, you look at the
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offseason and and obviously there are a lot of teams that
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didn't really pull the trigger. And Boston made a couple of
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moves, the Blue Jays made a couple of moves.
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And in the IT, and everybody knows the American League East
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is always the best division in baseball.
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It always is. Usually every single year it is.
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And the Yankees, which are always the one that goes out
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there and, and, and, and spends the money.
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Everybody's complaining. The Yankees aren't doing this.
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They're not doing that. And, and the Yankees, maybe
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they're trying to be cheap. Al Steinberg came out a couple
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of weeks after the season and attacked the Dodgers when it
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came to the deferred money. And he says they're ruining
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baseball. And then everybody was attacking
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the Yankees because the Yankees quote on quote bought their
9:14
championships, which was untrue. Now, what do you think?
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I mean, do you think that baseball after the after this
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season, do you think the baseball is going to go on a
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heavy long strike because of the Dodgers and what the Dodgers
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have done over the last couple of years?
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I've got a couple feelings about this and some of it's just like
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stuff I've heard in the in the rumor mill.
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There's a few conspiracy theories out there that opposing
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general managers are just letting this happen.
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And it wouldn't be the GMs really so much as the owners
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that they're letting something like this happen where it almost
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forces MLBS hand in terms of a a salary cap.
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Which of course as an owner is better for you in the long run.
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But I, I don't think that baseball is a sport that can
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successfully implement a, a salary cap because what you're
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going to end up with is teams that are going to have, I don't
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know, 3-4 highly or high, high paid players.
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And then you're going to end up with a bunch of guys who are in
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the, what is it, Joe at the, the first, what, five years of their
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contract or something? One of those guys.
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Before arbitration. Yeah, and a lot of those guys
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who who can produce at a big league level at a quote, UN
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quote, zero to two WAR level, who, you know, never get through
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arbitration, never make a big league squad again after that
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because it's seen as well, this guy's not worth 678, nine, $10
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million a year. But you know, we would take him
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for less than that. And that's going to cause a
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whole different problem in baseball.
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If we're getting back to that position where I mean, you see
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it in the NFLA lot where you you're getting specific guys who
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are making essentially all the money and then everybody else
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who's playing league minimum or slightly above, it's it's it, it
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would be a mess. As so, so you're saying, so
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you're saying it's going to be a long strike.
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That's what you're. Saying so.
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So no, Ryan, would you say like a cap, like obviously I don't
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think it's going to happen, but like, 'cause you can have a
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salary floor too, Like do you think that would be more in in
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space for what baseball in the direction that they're going?
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So I think a salary floor is a wonderful idea.
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Do I ever see it getting implemented only if there's also
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a hard cap. I, I don't know, I, there's a,
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there's a guy I'm going to have to set you up with at some point
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to talk the actual money in terms of this, his name is Rob
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Rayola. He's a New York guy, sports tax
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man on Twitter and he knows all of the insurance and outs in
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terms of, in terms of the way that contracts are hitting
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payroll and stuff like that. He's my default guy for that.
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But I, I don't know how like, all right, Tucker's making
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$1,000,000 salary this year. No, he's not.
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I don't know how they would game that in terms of a hard cap
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getting around it. The best idea, ironically, I've
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ever heard is from Nick Castillanos, who said, hey, you
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know what? We should have a relegation.
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Go with the go figure the the Europeans have the most
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capitalist sports system in probably the world where if you
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don't produce, you get sent essentially to the minors.
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And Castianos was like, you know what?
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I'd love to see that in baseball where, you know, if teams aren't
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competing, you finish last two years in a row or something,
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then you're sent down and another team's given a chance.
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I think that would be pretty cool, but that would probably
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cause some serious issues with guys who are perennial big
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leaguers on those types of teams.
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The guys who, who we see on those cellar dwellers.
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Although I mean, I, I, I can't really off the top my head think
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of anybody on the Rockies who was a stand out All Star,
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Anybody last year who, who was on the White Sox who's, you
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know, a stand out All Star. And then you get guys like me
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who would have a fit over the the stats and the way that those
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are impacted in terms of the the potential strike we're looking
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at. I don't think Major League
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Baseball wants to try to recover from another 60 game season.
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So I hope that they can arrive at something.
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And if they do arrive at something in terms of a shorter
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season I I wouldn't at all be surprised if that's what they
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end up going with going forward, be it 154 games or something.
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I never thought Major League Baseball would be a sport to cut
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games, but I, I'm sure they would find a way to get that
14:14
revenue back with some stupid NBA style mid season tournament
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or something like that, which I, I personally don't see any value
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in. Maybe they do something like
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they do with the 1981 season, which is absolutely ridiculous
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where you know, you got a first half winner and a second-half
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winner. I think in the end what we're
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going to see is something very similar to a post season system
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that we saw in in 2020 where it's essentially like NBA style.
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More than half the teams are making it or half if you go to
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32 and you're going to see a longer post season.
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That I'm not necessarily against that, but I, I also don't want
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to see, you know, shortened season or anything like that.
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You'll see some sub 500 teams in the playoffs, they said.
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It's eight teams that's the problem.
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With the NBA. A lot of the time, especially in
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the East, so you had like 60s at 39 and 43 or something like
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that. They're going to be equivalent
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of that. I wanted to bring up something
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that mentioned with expansion. One of the other stories was the
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geographic realignment, the division realignment, which I
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thought was a kind of a strange concept, but maybe it could help
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travel circumstances. Would that only come with
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expansion? Would that only come with like a
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potential like a revenue boost in that way?
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Because a lot of the obviously the local TV networks are
15:34
falling apart. You know, I, I really wish I
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knew we would go here because I, I, I wrote something on that
15:40
night. I don't have it handy.
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You know, you keep telling people to go to my site and
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they're probably going to it and seeing that, that it's under
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construction because I'm, I'm doing a revamp this offseason,
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which that's why I didn't do the, the ballot this year.
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So don't worry, don't worry, you'll get it.
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You'll get it back next. Year I was just going to say I
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didn't get annoyed with all like hey did you put your.
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But that'll be back next year. But the alignment thing is very
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interesting because if you do look at the in terms of travel,
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it is there's no other way to say it.
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I mean, it's unfair to certain teams and certain players and
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the way it affects certain players versus, you know,
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younger guys traveling is not the easiest thing in the world.
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I always thought that I was invincible.
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And then when I hit 27, I was like, and I mind you, I was in
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the Marine Corps at that point. I hit 27.
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I was like, why do I feel like a headache and tired after having
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19 beers last night? This is not normal.
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Something must be wrong with me. So, you know, you get these guys
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who have, Philly's a great example, Yankees as well now,
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who have a bunch of superstars who are older.
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I mean, if you put one of those teams in Seattle who has all
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that travel year after year, they probably have a pretty hard
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time going coast to coast and traveling.
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What I what is it like twice as much as any other team?
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It's yeah, they're pretty. Rough.
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Your shortest flight is 2 and. 1/2 hours.
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That's, that's brutal. And I, I think that one of the
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things that I drew up and I'll send to you guys after the fact
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so I can actually come through and pull up is a realignment
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that functions well with 32 teams where basically
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everybody's getting a more even distribution of travel.
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Ryan, where would you add those two teams because we've had this
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conversation too. Man, I think 1 you got to go.
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I can't remember where the heck I put Montreal.
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Montreal. That's where I.
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No see, Montreal doesn't play though.
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It doesn't work. The northeast is already too
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loaded. I think I had one go in.
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Nashville. I want to say I had one in,
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yeah, Nashville, and then I had one on the West Coast.
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I can't remember exactly how I drew it up, but it wasn't Vegas
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because, you know, I just assumed that athletics were
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going to end up there and sure enough, that's where they're
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going to end up. Just letting my ADD brain take
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over. It is hilarious that the
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athletics can't get a trademark for anything in life.
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They tried two of them and they got turned on for both of them.
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That's great. They're going to be end up name
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something else. That's ridiculous.
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Honestly, what they did to that fan base is, is ridiculous, but
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that's a whole mother conversation.
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So I, I do think the future of baseball does have something in
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store in terms of additional teams, less travel for teams
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throughout the season where you're doing most of your travel
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all at once and you're hanging out in an area for for a long
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time. Or, or, you know, we end up with
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that situation that I talked about with the stupid mid season
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tournament or something like that where everybody's housed
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like it's the Little League World Series or something like
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that, which I, I really, I really can't put stock into.
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I I don't understand like a what would you even, would you even
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get like a ring? A partial champion?
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What the I don't even understand what you'd possibly call it.
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They'd probably try to do something with like rivalries or
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something like that. But I don't know how you can
19:30
even do something like that because I mean, yeah, you got
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the Yankees and and you got the Yankees and the Red Sox and the
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Dodgers and the Giants. But then.
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How about a Long Island baseball team?
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What about that I mean? Too much in the Northeast.
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We're just we're spoiled as it is.
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Listen, Ryan, I'm just trying to give people a thought in their
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mind. Hey, Long Island baseball team.
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We got a lot of land over here. We have the Long Island ducks.
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Oh, stop. That's goody special fish.
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Oh. My God, we should call them the
20:04
Long Island junks because that's what they are.
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Anyways, we are talking to the ace of spader.com, baseball
20:11
analyst and Stat edition, Ryan Spader.
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All right, Ryan, Hall of Fame you have obviously Andrew Jones
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and you have Carlos Beltran, 2 guys that actually deserved to
20:24
go to the Hall of Fame a long time ago.
20:26
Andrew Jones, ten time Gold Glove winner, probably the
20:29
greatest center fielder, him and Torial Tori Hunter, That's right
20:35
from the Twins when I when I watched those two guys really
20:38
stuck out to me the most when it came to center fields and Bernie
20:41
Williams. I'm not going to take that away
20:43
either. And obviously Carlos Beltran,
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who is one of the best playoff hitters I've ever seen.
20:49
When he was hitting in the with the Astros and then when he went
20:53
to the Mets, even with Kansas City, he was a great player.
20:56
This guy was an all around, you know, as far as stats are
20:59
concerned, as great of a player we've seen in a long time.
21:02
But Andy, Andy Pettitte still on the list, Alex Rodriguez, two
21:06
guys that there's a lot of questions because of the HGH and
21:10
steroids. Felix Chase Utley, I know you
21:14
know a lot about him. Tell us a little bit about your
21:17
thoughts with the two guys that got into the Hall of Fame and
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the other guys that are trailing right behind them.
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Well, to me, Andrew Jones, I really don't understand what
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the, what the hang up was on him.
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You know, when I, when I, when I talked to him initially about
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like it's Hall of Fame case. I, I think it was like 6 years
21:36
ago now, the whole idea of it for me was like, yeah, you were
21:42
supposed to be Willie Mays, but who, who the hell is Willie
21:46
Mays? And like, and I don't say that
21:48
to knock Willie Mays. I say it to like, who could
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possibly do what Willie Mays did?
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And to me it's it's it's no crime, not really not being
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Willie Mays and to to still end up hitting 434 home runs and and
22:05
winning 10 Gold Gloves. And then even looking at today's
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advanced metrics, the ones that say, hey, maybe Jimmy Edmonds
22:13
wasn't quite as good defensively as he appeared to be simply
22:17
because of the fact that, you know, he was, he was making
22:21
great plays on balls that got a guy like Andrew Jones, a guy
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like Tori Hunter would be probably camped under.
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And it's not to knock Jimmy Edmonds because he was a great
22:30
ball player and I'd put him in the Hall of Fame.
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But I'm a big Hall Hall guy. Andrew Jones absolutely had no
22:38
business being on what is 8th, 9th ballot should have been in a
22:41
long time ago. I don't think Carlos Beltran
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should have taken this long. But you know, the Astros quote
22:46
UN quote scandal held him back and then him getting fired from
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the Mets before he even started didn't really help the
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situation. I think you guys all know my
22:56
feelings on the, the cheating scandal and everything and the,
23:00
the legal issues that I dealt with in terms of sharing some of
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the players thoughts that were passed to me.
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If it's a, it's a situation where I think it's just another
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generation of that's, that's what the cheating is now, right?
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It's the you got the steroid era that came before it and I'm, I'm
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not ashamed to say I took steroids and I hit zero home
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runs. We talked about this.
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We talked about. You know, didn't do anything for
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me. Improved my my bench press Max
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and I think that was it, nothing else.
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What were you bench pressing? What were you?
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Bench pressing, actually the best I ever did, and that's what
23:47
anybody who took steroids will tell you, was 435 lbs cleaning.
23:52
That's pretty good. I was.
23:54
I was a national champion powerlifter at Penn State.
23:56
My man. Really.
23:58
That's right. You never told me that.
24:00
Like crappy valley, crappy valley, You got it right.
24:05
I could call in another valley, but that's a whole nother story.
24:10
Oh yeah, right. I want to get on.
24:14
The fact is I've gotten to know you over the years and
24:20
obviously, first and foremost, you served our country, which
24:23
grateful and thankful for that. So appreciate you on that.
24:27
What in the hell made you get into this world of analytics?
24:31
Because you have been a controversy many times over and
24:35
I love it. I I love that it, it, it, it
24:38
excites me when I see stuff and people going back and forth at
24:42
you for, for your takes. Like what made you like want to
24:46
be that guy that that pushes the envelope because obviously you
24:52
did it in your career and now in your next career, you're doing
24:55
it again. And I think it's fascinating to
24:58
me. Dave, I will tell you the this
25:04
is one of my favorite stories to tell and I'm going to try to
25:06
chop it up real quick is when I was a junior at Penn State and I
25:13
was trying out for the club baseball team, which I, I
25:17
realize like club whatever, but Penn State's club baseball team
25:21
as his most D1 club baseball teams are, are pretty good.
25:25
And I ended up getting cut from their club baseball team.
25:27
And I'm like 20 years old and I'm like, I'm probably not going
25:30
to make the big leagues. Took me that long to realize.
25:34
And I'm like, I got, I got to find another way into this.
25:36
I got to keep baseball part of my life in some way.
25:39
I, I just, I love this game so much.
25:42
And I had a professor there in one of my econometrics, which is
25:47
stats and probability focus, who was always using baseball stuff
25:52
in his problems. And I was so good at this stuff.
25:54
And I'm like, damn, man, this is my way.
25:56
I can, I can do it by the numbers.
25:57
I can do baseball by the numbers with the best of them.
25:59
I mean, when I was growing up, I collected baseball cards, but I
26:03
was more concerned about the fact that Jose Canseco's 1999
26:06
tops traded card had all kinds of errors on the back of it.
26:10
You know, I was moving to the back of the cards in the front.
26:13
So I started toying with some stats stuff and I think it was a
26:18
2010, excuse me, 2012. Cliff Lee went 6:00 and 9:00 for
26:25
the Phillies and Philly, as they are want to do, losing their
26:29
mind on the radio. Everybody's calling in.
26:31
Cliff Lee's done his, his career's over.
26:34
He went 6:00 and 9:00. But if you looked at his
26:36
numbers, he was Cliff Lee as usual.
26:39
And that season he was the first pitcher since Cy Young in 19 O 5
26:43
to have at least 200 strikeouts and fewer than thirty walks in
26:47
the season. And I was like, oh, that's a
26:48
cool piece of information. Me call into WIP Philly radio
26:52
station and tell them all about this.
26:54
And every single time I'd call in and start talking numbers,
26:58
they'd hang up on you because they don't want some schmuck
27:02
caller talking numbers. And the, the great irony in this
27:06
is that I later ended up doing a weekly numbers segment on that
27:12
same radio station for that same guy who I, I was trying to call
27:16
in and would hang up. Now I, I guess it kind of helped
27:21
that I at that point had a, had a stat book and everything and
27:25
started getting some recognition, a couple writing
27:28
gigs for the work that I was doing and I wasn't calling into
27:33
his show as Doctor Burrell, who had a APHD as in a professional
27:39
hitting degree and a master's degree in fornication.
27:43
What? You sure it wasn't because you
27:45
were a schmuck? Because no, it was a little bit
27:48
of, I think everybody is a bunch of schmucks.
27:53
So, so, yeah, I kind of just took that road.
27:56
And the thing that benefited me more than anything throughout
28:01
all of this is and, and I tell this because I still get not
28:05
quite as much as I used to, but I still get kids in college,
28:08
they'll reach out to me, Hey, how do I, how do I get a job in
28:11
baseball to set? And the other thing, I don't
28:14
have a job in baseball. I do my own thing.
28:16
I've never needed baseball to put food on my table,
28:20
fortunately. And what that's enabled me to do
28:24
is things like calling it like I see it, I don't, I've never bent
28:29
the knee. The one time I did bend the knee
28:31
was when I got scared shitless by, you know, the lawyers after
28:36
came out with some of the things that players told me.
28:39
And I'm not saying who those lawyers were, but I fortunately
28:43
ended up getting my own. And I realized, well, I didn't
28:45
do anything wrong. And I probably shouldn't have
28:48
published that apology, you know, back at the time when
28:50
apologies were the thing and they were always written by some
28:53
publish this. So that was probably the biggest
28:56
mistake, I would say. If I go back, if I went back in
29:00
time, would I have been a little less controversial?
29:09
Probably no. But would I have kind of watched
29:15
what I said a little bit maybe because maybe I'd be doing
29:19
something a little bit different in terms of my connection to
29:22
baseball. But at the end of the day, man,
29:25
it's the same thing. I've told every single guy and
29:28
I've probably told you at some point that I've run into I'm a
29:31
ball player, I just happen to suck and I like chopping it up
29:34
with ball players. I like baseball being a part of
29:37
my life and unfortunately for me.
29:39
At one point you like to shoot it in your ass, you know I'll.
29:45
Do that before his wrestling match with Rob.
29:46
Manford I will tell you this though, and one of the could I
29:53
be the referee? Could I be the referee?
29:56
No, we were giving you the job of the the celebrity
29:59
broadcaster. That's what I said.
30:01
I I'd put Spader against Rob Manfred and a referee.
30:05
I'd be the referee, I'd take the cherry, beat Rob Manfred on the
30:08
back of the head with it. I'd be the one trying to double
30:12
team on him. Hey, to quote to great tug
30:16
McGraw, who was a reserve Marine, right, He said when he
30:22
left for boot camp and came back, he said they said how was
30:25
boot camp and he said, well, I'm trained killer now so.
30:30
I want to, I want, I want to segue into that like, how is
30:34
your mentality like? And I and I think when you are
30:39
authentically you and that's we've had this conversation of
30:44
like, I'm like, we've had the MLB conversation.
30:47
He's like, I'm not going to get there because I am who I am.
30:51
Do you think that translated from the Marine Corps to to what
30:57
you are? Because you authentically have
30:59
to be you and you're not going to change who you are.
31:02
And that's why you've created what you've created.
31:07
No, man, I, I kind of think it goes into play with how I was
31:11
raised, right? What might I become a Marine?
31:13
Well, probably the same reasons I was 25 years old and a senior
31:16
hedge fund account manager. That's a, it's a pretty decent
31:20
job for somebody who is that age.
31:22
And I, I'm not saying this to be boastful or anything like I, I,
31:27
I work, I work hard. I like any job that I do and
31:31
whether it's throughout my life, whether it's digging ditches,
31:36
which I've done, whether it's making cheese steaks, which I've
31:39
done, delivering papers, which I did when I was like 8 years old.
31:43
I always worked hard and I wanted to be either, I don't
31:48
know, recognize for my good work at a younger age, but then be
31:52
represented by my work now that I'm older.
31:55
I always invest in myself all the way.
31:58
And you know, when I was doing the job in, in finance and I was
32:02
like, you know what, this this isn't for me.
32:04
I always said I was going to be a Marine.
32:06
So I got to I got to do what I said I was going to be and ended
32:10
up leaving. That took a pretty steep pay
32:13
cut, as you could imagine, going from a senior hedge fund account
32:17
manager to private first class because I decided to enlist
32:22
since it would be faster to get in instead of going the officer
32:25
out. So there's a pretty steep pay
32:27
cut, massive life change. But it, you know, I, I did what
32:31
I said I was going to do. And another thing that I've
32:35
always said I'm, I'm going to do is I'm, I'm just going to be
32:38
who, who I believe I am and who I'm going to do what I think is
32:41
right. Sometimes that means speaking
32:43
out against something. Sometimes it means going against
32:49
what everybody else is saying or what is popular to be said.
32:53
And, and that, that kind of reflects in baseball.
32:56
It caused me issues when I'm, when technically I, I qualified
33:00
for BBWA, but they're making up rules out of their ass to
33:04
prevent me from, from getting in And something that I have that
33:09
I'm, I'm proud of and that I have over.
33:12
I, I don't think there's a single member of BBWA who has
33:17
five different guys who have been inducted into the Hall of
33:20
Fame who have thanked them for helping, helping them along the
33:25
way and helping other people open up to their case.
33:29
But, but I do and I'm, I'm pretty happy with that.
33:33
I don't. Need You're about to make me
33:35
start to cry, man. You're, you're making me cry.
33:38
You, you turned out to be a guy that I like to yell with and go
33:42
back and forth with to a guy, a kind soul.
33:45
This guy helps baseball players. He helps everybody statics.
33:49
So you're this guy? He's the best.
33:53
Java, I think it was. I think it was the second time
33:55
we had riot. We had a riot on the show.
33:57
He literally went on about a 10 minute vendetta with about the
34:01
BBWA. Treaty Yes, he did.
34:03
And we went back and forth plenty of times, me and him, and
34:07
I mean with his Phillies and my Yankees and going back and forth
34:11
in 2009 when he said that the Phillies got robbed, as I
34:15
remember the argument with him. But you're an interesting cat
34:19
man, you always were. And I the one thing I could say
34:22
about me that I can kind of compare to you and is that I
34:26
say, I tell it how it is. I don't really care what anybody
34:28
thinks. And if baseball wants to hold it
34:31
back because of it, then so be it.
34:34
I am not a big fan of any commissioner in professional
34:37
sports, but I have respect for what they do and how they do it.
34:41
I'm just not. Obviously it's been apparent on
34:45
this show that Rob Manfred is one of the dumbest people in
34:48
professional sports and I've attacked him on this show plenty
34:51
of times. Jabba sometimes doesn't want to
34:53
stand behind it because it's, you know, Jabba still works with
34:57
the players union. But I stand behind it because
35:00
I'm I'm real and I don't want anybody to think that I'm fake
35:03
and I'm trying to kiss somebody's ass ass to get
35:06
somewhere. I want to get somewhere because
35:08
I they can see the talent, they see the work, they see the
35:12
passion and they know that we're the way we work and the way we
35:15
passionately bring it to the forefront.
35:18
People will fall in love with it.
35:19
So I say the same thing about you, your stats, everything
35:23
about you. I respect.
35:25
That's why people follow you. That's why people listen to you
35:27
when it comes to stats, and that's why I love getting you on
35:30
the show and we really appreciate you joining us.
35:33
Dude, I, I anytime you need a third I, I love doing this
35:37
stuff. I love talking to you guys.
35:40
Having Java here is just a added bonus because him and I chop it
35:44
up all the time here. First of all, I don't I don't
35:48
get the snaps anymore of send one share one like what the
35:51
hell. I got oh.
35:55
Man, yeah, with the gifts and all that stuff, I've got it.
36:02
I will. Say before I let you go, why?
36:06
Why you are so respected from our community is because you are
36:12
authentically yourself. And your mission is like, I'm
36:16
just going to give what it is. And I'm going to tell you it
36:18
like, I don't think you are Hall of Famer, but if I think you
36:22
are, I'm going to show you why you are.
36:24
And that's why Scott Rowland did what he did.
36:26
I appreciate. Whatever the guys did, what they
36:29
did, and I will say it from somebody that was fortunate
36:32
enough to play the game and fortunate enough to know you,
36:36
he's not going to lick my butt. But the way that you project
36:45
yourself in a way that we don't get to see a lot where you're
36:52
essentially protecting us because of the work we did and
36:56
how. And like you told me, it's like
36:59
when you started on five days, this was your ERA.
37:02
And I'm like, holy shit, like what if I would have had that
37:05
when I was going to arbitration? Like these are things that we
37:09
didn't have. And like you just are so
37:12
authentically open to so many things where you take on it all,
37:17
but you do it so strategically and smart where it's like, Hey,
37:23
I'm just going to tell you the way it is.
37:25
So you don't like you don't like it, but I'm here to be a caveat
37:29
to to help you do that. I can't say thank you enough and
37:32
I I do appreciate that. And nothing for me is more
37:36
enjoyable as somebody because I still I, I will say it over and
37:40
over again. I'll say it when I'm 80 years
37:41
old. I'm a ball player.
37:43
I just happen to suck every single time I've spoken to AI,
37:47
don't know a potential Hall of Famer or a a guy who couldn't.
37:52
The team couldn't figure out if he's a starter reliever, how
37:55
they're going to manipulate him into a lesser contract.
38:00
Whatever. I, anytime I've ever talked to
38:04
one of these guys, Tim Raines, one sticks out.
38:06
He's like, you know, I, I start talking to Tim Raines, he's
38:09
like, yes, Sir, this, Sir that's and I'm like rock dude.
38:13
I'm a, I'm a ball player, man. I'm not going to write anything
38:16
you don't want when we, when we do something together.
38:19
And it's one of the things that led me astray from, from writing
38:23
for publications is because I would always share my stuff
38:27
before I sent it to the editor. And I'd be like, hey, you cool
38:31
with how I said this? You cool?
38:33
Edgar Martinez, you know, he's been in the US for a long time,
38:36
but he's still a little bit self-conscious about his English
38:39
and doesn't like the way he says certain things.
38:41
So I'd let him read what I write when he's involved in the piece.
38:45
And that's apparently frowned upon, but that's the way I do
38:48
business. And I don't want people ever to
38:51
feel like they got to watch what they say around me or think that
38:55
they're going to end up on a some sort of blast or some sort
39:00
of video because they were out having having beers and a little
39:03
bit loose in the lips saying certain things around me.
39:07
That's it's just not who I am. I don't do that.
39:09
I ever intend to be. I don't do that either, and what
39:12
I do is I just attack everybody the way I think and I don't
39:15
need. To tell you.
39:16
I don't need to use any interview to attack somebody
39:19
except Quinton Jammer, that's the only one.
39:22
That's the only SOBI like to jam something in, but that's it.
39:27
Anyways, we love you man. Keep up the good work and we'll
39:31
talk to you soon. All right, guys, be good.
39:34
Don't forget to send one share 1 Dick.
39:37
As long as he's using dude wipes and taking care of my 2 hole I'm
39:40
good. There he is.
39:41
Ryan Bader, ladies and gentlemen, if you heard his so
39:46
his, I, I guess his website is down right now and when it gets
39:50
up, I, he has a great website. He's one of the best
39:53
statisticians in the business right now and he's really,
39:57
really honest with his numbers and he really gets deep into his
40:01
numbers. So I, and like he said, he's,
40:04
he's very good with it. So I, I'm interested.
40:07
I didn't even know he was a, a lifter and I didn't know that
40:10
he, he was benching over 400 lbs.
40:12
So pretty, pretty impressive for a guy his size anyways.
40:16
Ladies and gentlemen, we've got save your tears.
40:20
Mom, what's one thing? That you can't talk to me about.
40:24
My sexual fantasies. No.
40:27
No, say your sorry. It is not ideal, but if it's
40:30
what means it is not ideal, but if it is not ideal, but if it
40:33
is, what means? You can't dribble stamp a double
40:35
stamp, you can't dribble stamp a double stamp Lloyd.
40:37
You can't dribble stamp a double.
40:38
Stamp. Lloyd, you guys now?
40:43
It's time for save your tears. Another Tojo.
40:48
Right, welcome back. To Save Your Tears, we're going
40:53
to do the Championship Week $15. I guess this is the last one of
40:59
the year, Errol. We can't really do it with one
41:01
game. So here is the finale of Save
41:05
Your Tears. All right, here we go.
41:08
Let's bring up the full board. Did I save your sex part again?
41:14
This is the part of the show where I remind you, if you are
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41:42
All right, so at quarterback, obviously, we're picking both
41:46
games. We got Matthew Stafford the $5
41:49
player, Drake May at 4, Sam Darnold at 3 and Jared Stidham
41:55
for two and a dollar. I guess you could take a flyer.
41:58
And if Nathan's going to play, I don't see Nathan in the
42:01
backstage, right? Now.
42:03
Maybe Nathan would spend it on anybody else.
42:05
I don't think anyone's going to spend a dollar on mystery
42:07
quarterback. That might play, I guess.
42:10
If Stidham craps the bed, $5 for running back is going to go to
42:14
Karen Williams, followed by Kenneth Walker.
42:16
The third room, Andre Stevenson at 3, RJ Harvey at 2, and I'm
42:22
putting Trayvion Henderson as the dollar wild card receiver.
42:28
Receiver number one, it's Puka Nakua for 5, Courtland Sutton
42:32
for four, Stefan Diggs for three, Cooper Cup for two and
42:36
Pop Douglas for a Buck Droba. Wydonnava. #2 JSN headlines it
42:45
for $5, followed by Adams Kay, Sean Bodie for three, Marvin
42:51
Mims junior. For two.
42:53
Speedy, you said Pat Bryant's probably not going to play.
42:55
I guess I will then make that dollar player.
42:58
Hoops get so pooch. The next receiver who gets the
43:03
most I guess targets in that game sounds fair to me.
43:07
I love Lisa AM. And then at tight end Colby
43:11
Parkinson. Suck my indoor.
43:14
Last round, he's the $5 player at tight end, followed by Hunter
43:18
Henry Stone hands himself from the Giants days, Evan Ingram for
43:22
three, AJ Barner for two and Terrence Ferguson for a dollar.
43:29
Again, I'm anal. All right, so was Mr. Speedy,
43:34
who did win last week. Speedy, what's the order
43:36
tonight? We're going to start with you
43:38
this week. Oh well, very convenient.
43:41
I already have mine done. I'm going all Patriots all the
43:46
time and a couple other guys here.
43:48
Drake May at quarterback. Stick a finger in his ass.
43:58
And fish might have frozen. On Kenneth, Kenneth Walker to
44:01
3rd, because Kenneth Walker to 3rd doesn't have to deal with
44:04
Mr. Chardonnay anymore and that leaves me with a dollar.
44:08
I'll spend it on Ferguson. So I got May Walker the third
44:12
digs booty and Ferguson. Who's next?
44:15
Speedy. Tony.
44:17
OK, I was really looking at it. Give me Matthew Stafford.
44:21
Give. Me Do you know a rooster as a
44:23
cock? Kenneth Walker.
44:27
You got to put your tongue on something.
44:29
Give. ME Cooper Cup and then yeah,
44:37
give me Mims and then Barner. All right.
44:41
Go check your lug nuts. Oh God.
44:45
I've got Stafford. Get his hand off the board,
44:49
please. Wait Fish.
44:51
I'm sorry I lied. This.
44:52
Is what we're. Going to do.
44:53
We're going to instead of Mims, we're going to go.
44:57
Booty and then I should have an extra.
44:59
Dollar So I should go Ferguson? So instead of Mims, switch that
45:02
around. Just Mims instead of yeah, we're
45:04
going to do booty in Ferguson instead.
45:06
All right, so Stafford Walker Cup booty in Ferguson?
45:10
Yes, that's all right. Who's next, Speedy?
45:14
Jabba. I'm going to go Matthew Stafford
45:18
because same rehab guy that my son works with that worked with
45:24
Stafford at Georgia. Nice.
45:26
Goodbye. Then I'm going to go from Andre
45:32
Stevenson, I'm at 8. Then I'm going to go Portland
45:38
Sutton, which puts me at. 12 that means.
45:43
You can't go with the booty this week, Java.
45:44
I know you right? Never mind.
45:48
Never. Mind.
45:49
Sorry, no. I'm going to go digs and booty.
45:55
Beneficial. And then Ferguson.
46:00
Dissect. All right, Similar to what I I
46:02
did over there with digs and booty.
46:05
That's what they say in New England.
46:06
They digs the booty, Ferguson, Stevenson and Stafford.
46:12
Who's next? All right, I'll go next with my
46:15
18. So Stafford, Stafford and Puka,
46:19
you're a cheater. Stafford and Puka, give me, give
46:22
me Devante Adams. That gives me that gives me 14.
46:26
Give me Harvey and Barner with a family member.
46:33
Either. All right, I got Stafford,
46:34
Harvey, Puka, Adams and Barnard going heavy on the Rams.
46:38
All right, Errol, you're up. All right, the board.
46:42
From him, get it away from him all.
46:44
Right, I'm going with Jared Stidham.
46:46
No, I'm just kidding. I.
46:49
Don't know, it would be funny if if he doesn't just to stick it
46:52
to Jeff. I'm so I'm so sad that I missed
46:56
Jeff's phone call. Yeah, of the one day I missed.
47:00
So am I. I'm going to go.
47:05
I'm going to go Sam Darnold. I'm going to go Kenneth Walker.
47:10
I'm going to go Puka. Where am I at?
47:14
Stafford Walker Puka That's already 14.
47:18
No, he took Darnold. Oh, Darnold.
47:20
Darnold Walker. So that's 12.
47:24
We got 3 left for two spots all. Right.
47:30
No, he went Darnold 10th. Walker Puka.
47:33
Yeah, yeah, that's 12. Yeah, that's 12, Yeah.
47:37
So he also can't take the booty. No, I don't want the booty.
47:42
All right, I'll, I'll take I'm. Going to tell Brittany you said
47:47
that. She won't care.
47:52
She'll just be happy Nathan doesn't happen.
47:53
That's right. I'll go with Mams in Ferguson.
47:57
All right, all right. So I got a lot of Ferguson.
48:01
A lot of Ferguson. Yeah, well, he's been on our.
48:03
Show you know this. Yeah, we had him when he was, he
48:07
was a senior in high school. He came on the show and
48:10
interesting dude, man, interesting dude.
48:12
No question. He.
48:13
Seems to make a big play every game.
48:15
You know one big play every game right now.
48:18
Very nice. All right, Errol, I got I got
48:22
you here with Darnold, Walker, Puka, Mims and Ferguson.
48:27
We will go over the results on Monday's episode.
48:32
Again, if you don't like how it goes, you can't cry about it.
48:35
You got to save your tears. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
48:42
we got to get into this Drury story.
48:45
It's definitely a story of craziness.
48:48
And I'm here to to entertain you Ranger fans.
48:52
As we all know, last Friday the Rangers general manager Chris
48:57
Drury wrote a public letter to Ranger fans saying that the team
49:00
will really retool this season. Drury added he doesn't consider
49:05
this a full rebuild, but that the team will be open to trading
49:11
some of their Rangers popular players.
49:16
That's going to be fun, popular star players around the
49:19
deadline. Mr. Panarin was then told that
49:23
there would be no extension talk, leading to the the belief
49:29
that he will be likely to be moved at the trade deadline.
49:33
Jury mentioned wanting to be to get faster and younger, building
49:37
around certain core players and prospects and wanting to shed
49:41
off some cap space. He added or ended the letter
49:45
describing the start of a new strategic plan.
49:50
That you like that and a strategy, a plan and said that
49:55
the team will still play hard despite their struggles this
49:58
season. Panarin will not be so easy to
50:01
move as will the as will other veterans like Adam Fox, Vincent
50:08
Trochik, Igor Shasturkin and Mika Zabitejad, who all have
50:14
full no movement clauses and captain JT Miller and Jonathan
50:18
Quick have partial no trade clauses.
50:21
The Rangers have just 2.25 million in cap space and are
50:26
last in Eastern Conference with 48 points, having played more
50:30
games than any team besides the Red Wings.
50:33
Here's the thing. Everybody knows that McKenna is
50:38
the big prospect. Everybody is talking about.
50:40
This guy's as good as Connor McDavid, might even be better.
50:45
I mean, obviously he's playing for Penn State right now.
50:47
He's playing great hockey. He's playing for Team Canada,
50:50
great. This guy is special.
50:53
I'm going to tell you this right now, there's no way the Rangers
50:57
are getting that number one pack.
50:59
And if that's what the Rangers are doing and that's what Chris
51:02
Drury is trying to plan, and this is something that I had
51:06
fights with somebody that was on the show a long time ago,
51:08
Speedy, you know what I'm talking about.
51:10
Anthony Scoltori. No, you know what I'm talking
51:13
about. He traveled with me.
51:16
He went to the draft with me. Filk.
51:18
Mr. Filk and Filk has his own hockey show and I, I'm going to
51:22
blast him here. Oh boy.
51:25
I remember when we went back and forth about Jack Hughes and I
51:29
said there's no way the Rangers are getting Jack Hughes and they
51:31
didn't get Jack Hughes. They got the second best player
51:34
in that draft who's no longer on the team.
51:36
He's playing for Seattle. And then when they got Lafinir,
51:40
I attacked him again because I said Lafinir is not going to be
51:43
much of anything. He's definitely not Sidney
51:45
Crosby and he's not. He's going to probably be either
51:48
traded or let go in some kind of way in the next year or two.
51:53
The fact here is the Rangers are making a big mistake keeping
51:59
Chris Drury around right now. The rebuilding should be with
52:02
the new GM and Sullivan and Sullivan should choose who he
52:06
wants to work with. This guy is a two time Stanley
52:09
Cup champion. This guy has been successful
52:12
building franchises including the Pittsburgh, the Pittsburgh
52:16
Penguins. He understands how to build a
52:18
team and this guy who has been trading away pieces, telling
52:23
players that he's not moving him and then moving him at the trade
52:26
deadline and, and and messing up the juju in the locker room has
52:31
always been an effective, just determined idiot over there.
52:36
As an executive for the New York Rangers, I don't want to hear
52:39
James Dolan go out on a national broadcasting show for WFN and
52:44
come out and say that I trust Drury.
52:47
I trust them. Meanwhile, this guy is hired.
52:50
How many coaches? How many coaches has this man
52:53
hired in the last five years? This guy is an absolute waste
52:56
and he hired 2 Stanley Cup champion coaches, 2 possibly top
53:02
10 greatest coaches of all time. Peter Laviolette was a top 7
53:06
coach of all time. Sullivan.
53:09
You can argue as a top 10 coach of all time, and the fact is, so
53:14
when you look at the perspective of where this team is going,
53:17
when you hear retooling, but we're not rebuilding, how?
53:21
What does that mean? You're retooling but you're not
53:24
rebuilding? How about you should have
53:27
decided over the last couple of years, I'm playing your
53:29
youngsters. You have all these prospects,
53:31
all these guys, all this offensive optional players that
53:35
you have in your farm system and you haven't called really any of
53:37
them up. And now you're going to trade
53:40
away some of the more popular players like Vincent Trochik,
53:44
who's a good player, Adam Fox, You going to trade a Long Island
53:47
guy who is been one of the better defenseman when he's
53:50
healthy, Eager Schisturkin, who you decided to give 11 and a
53:53
half, $1,000,000 to when it made no sense because he had one
53:57
great season. If you get traded for JT Miller
54:01
when obviously the Rangers should have never gotten rid of
54:03
him years and years ago. I mean, the fact here is the
54:07
Rangers organization is put in a standstill because there's one
54:11
guy leading the way and that's Chris Drury.
54:14
He's an absolute idiot. He doesn't know what he's doing.
54:17
He never knew what he was doing. And the fact that James Dolan is
54:20
riding or dying with this guy tells me that the Rangers are
54:24
going to choke. They're trying to choke because
54:27
they want that number one pick, because they feel that number
54:30
one pick can change that franchise.
54:32
It can. They just because they're trying
54:35
to lose out this season, they're not going to get McKenna.
54:38
They're not. They're going to lose out on
54:39
McKenna because every team that I can remember that we're
54:44
getting that number one pick because of their bad record.
54:46
Now, since this lottery thing has come to fruition, they've
54:51
never gotten that pick. If you're one of the worst two
54:54
teams in the NHL, those guys never get the pick.
54:58
So Ranger fans, if you think for one second by losing out the
55:03
season, you guys have the best chance of getting McKenna, you
55:06
are sadly mistaken because the Islanders were the 10th worst
55:10
team in the NHL last year and they won the lottery.
55:14
They won the lottery and the And then you know, the NHL didn't
55:18
cheat because guess what Gary Bettman did?
55:20
He did something that nobody ever has done.
55:23
He did it right in front of the television and I think
55:28
basketball should do that. I think football should have a
55:31
lottery and obviously baseball has brought a lottery in.
55:34
This Ranger team is is absolute insult to Ranger fans.
55:38
They have so much talent and they have more talent than the
55:40
Islanders do. And this team is the worst team
55:43
in Eastern Conference and the Islanders are one of the best
55:45
teams in Eastern Conference. What that tells me is, is it's
55:48
not the coach, it's the GM. It's the guy running the
55:51
organization because nobody wants to play for him and nobody
55:55
and, and pretty much everybody that I've heard through the
55:58
Grapevine can't stand the man. So the downfall of the New York
56:01
Rangers is one guy and one guy only.
56:03
Chris Drury. Yeah, and Mike Sullivan was
56:05
brought here for to help out this younger core because they
56:08
had a lot of Rangers that have had a prospect development
56:10
system that has been very flawed even with some of these top end
56:13
draft picks that they've had. And there's a reason again,
56:15
Capococko's already gone. The La Freniere has been
56:18
underwhelming for a number one pick and he's now stuck there
56:22
probably because I think he's a contract that's probably
56:24
untradable at this point. And really you're you're only
56:26
going to get a little bit of value with pin Aaron at this
56:29
point because pin Aaron and him are very far apart.
56:32
I would just say they hold on to him.
56:33
But again, he doesn't want to be there.
56:35
So you're going to have to trade him for less tro check and you
56:38
might get some value from because we've seen a lot of
56:40
these like more well-rounded centers still be a hot commodity
56:43
with NHL teams during the trade market.
56:45
Ryan O'Reilly was a big one with the Blues.
56:47
We saw that with Nazim Khadri. I mentioned last show is going
56:51
to be one that he was valuable with Colorado.
56:52
So Trochek is that type of player that still might get it.
56:55
That's really all you're getting is a banjad's on a downturn.
56:58
Igor, you're not going to trade him.
57:00
He's your goalie of the future. But again, I agree, you should
57:02
have never paid him over almost $2,000,000.
57:05
Another Chris Jerry. Yeah, but that's, yeah, not
57:08
reading the reading the market. Connor Halibuck was the Vesna
57:11
winner and got a contract of 10 million.
57:13
Ottinger got a little less than that.
57:15
And both are better goalies than Igor.
57:17
Just think about this. You had Capoco, who's the number
57:20
two pick, who they traded away, who's, by the way, only has five
57:24
goals in Seattle this year. And you have Alexis Lafenier,
57:29
who was the number one pick, the number one pick.
57:33
He had 53 or 54 goals going into the draft.
57:37
Everybody was comparing his skill to I think it was Sidney
57:40
Crosby. This guy's nowhere close to
57:42
Sidney Crosby. To me, he's a fourth line player
57:45
at best. Think about it.
57:46
The Rangers haven't developed a great player in years.
57:50
In years. And don't give me out of fucks
57:52
because he wasn't their guy. They didn't draft him.
57:55
Carolina. Did that's not Drury's guy
57:57
either, that that was the regime before that.
57:58
So it's not like you could give Chris Drury credit for him.
58:01
Like again, there's again, a few good moves that maybe he made in
58:05
short term, right in short term. That's the that's my point.
58:08
Those were the beginning of that core, which got the Rangers to
58:11
their surprise 2022 run. And those trade headline moves
58:15
helped. And he's living off of that.
58:17
Meanwhile, the next year, and I'll admit I fell for the next
58:19
year, in 2000, 1023, because I thought they were finally
58:22
getting the veteran leadership they needed, getting Tarasenko,
58:24
getting Kane. I actually picked them.
58:26
I was right about Vegas winning the Cup.
58:27
I picked the Rangers to win the East that year.
58:29
I was wrong. But since then, the core has
58:31
been very. Speedy, you are a die hard
58:33
Ranger fan and I know Fish is a Ranger fan and I everybody here
58:38
besides me is probably a Ranger fan.
58:41
You can't sit here today and and tell me that you're happy for
58:45
where the Rangers are going and where the Rangers are probably
58:48
going to be for the next three to four years because this
58:51
rebuilding is going to take a while.
58:54
Look how long it took the Islanders to rebuild this team
58:58
and, and again, they made a great move for Bo Horvat.
59:01
It looks like Lamorello has won that trade because look at that.
59:06
Look at the guys that they gave up.
59:08
They're nobodies and and Bo Horvat's one of the leading
59:11
scorers on team candidate this year in the NHL.
59:14
So it looks like the Islanders are riding or dying with that
59:16
trade and it worked out for them and then they landed arguably
59:21
one of the best prospects the NHL has seen in the last 10
59:24
years and got lucky with them. The Rangers are trying to do the
59:28
same thing, but guess what? But they're all old and nobody
59:31
wants these guys. And they gave them the one thing
59:33
you shouldn't give them no movement clauses.
59:36
You don't give an older player a no movement clause because that
59:41
means they only going to just sit.
59:43
The only way they're going to be traded is if they go where they
59:45
want to go. And usually that never happens.
59:48
So you're caught in the in the crossfire of crap.
59:51
And that's where the Rangers are right now.
59:53
And I got news for you guys. The Rangers are going to be
59:56
fair. They're going to be bad for a
59:57
while. You.
59:58
Do that if you're crap GM, though, Errol, if you're if
1:00:01
you're bad at your job and you go, oh, I know what's going to
1:00:04
get him to say yes, I'll give him a no movement clause.
1:00:08
Yeah, of course he'll say yes. Now you have no leverage.
1:00:12
You're only supposed to give those to your absolute star
1:00:14
players. If anybody.
1:00:17
And he gave it to half the team. And look at and and look at
1:00:20
what's going on now. They have to get rid of all
1:00:22
these guys. They can't.
1:00:24
I I mean, Panaron's gone. I don't know what they're going
1:00:27
to get for him. It's not as much they show.
1:00:29
Anything. Not much, but he's gone.
1:00:32
They're going to have to do it because it's a big cap number
1:00:35
and and, and they need the space.
1:00:36
So they're going to do that. That's the smart move to do
1:00:39
first. And then Lafreniere they're
1:00:41
going to get rid of because he still has some value because
1:00:43
someone's going to be dumb enough to think that they can
1:00:45
fix him. And, and and that's and that's
1:00:48
the first two moves. I really hope that they don't
1:00:50
get rid of Trochek, but again, you know, it's.
1:00:53
He's going to be the one that needs a bidding war though the
1:00:55
most because teams love those types of centers.
1:00:57
But. But speedy, Speedy, they don't
1:01:00
need to rebuild. They're just retooling.
1:01:04
They're just doing a little little here and a little there
1:01:08
because this is a team that could make it to the Cup right
1:01:11
now. Just a little retooling.
1:01:13
They had prospect and defense depth.
1:01:15
They. Had prospects and they decided
1:01:18
to part ways with some of them and Drury just doesn't know how
1:01:21
to bring these guys up slowly and gradually so they can
1:01:24
develop. And then they bring in these
1:01:26
guys that don't like to work with younger players.
1:01:29
They're veteran coaches that want to go with veteran players.
1:01:33
They made mistakes and I'm not saying Sullivan is a mistake.
1:01:36
He works very good with the younger players.
1:01:38
We've seen him do without with the the Pittsburgh Penguins all
1:01:40
those years. But the problem here is they had
1:01:44
a coach and he's now coaching the Edmonton Oilers.
1:01:47
They've decided to let him flee away to the Edmonton Oilers.
1:01:51
And look how successful the Edmonton Oilers have been since
1:01:55
he left and went over there to the Edmonton Oilers.
1:01:58
So it's it's always been Chris Jury and that was under Chris
1:02:02
Jury's watch. It always has been Chris Jury's
1:02:05
watch. And Chris Jury had the guy, the
1:02:07
right guy. And he decided, hey, you know
1:02:09
what, I'm going to give it to Peter Laviolette because he's
1:02:12
the bigger name and he made the mistake.
1:02:15
And now the Rangers are, it's been costly for the Rangers
1:02:18
organization because the development of some of these
1:02:20
young guys, some of these Boston College players that they have
1:02:23
right now. And honestly, they're playing in
1:02:26
the AHL and juniors and all this other stuff.
1:02:27
When are we going to see that next superstar that's going to
1:02:30
be called up for the Rangers? Could we remember the last
1:02:32
superstar player the Rangers have had that they developed?
1:02:36
Could you remember the last one? I'll tell.
1:02:38
You it's it's Fox, isn't it? Fox is the last.
1:02:40
They didn't. Draft him.
1:02:41
They didn't draft him. They didn't draft them.
1:02:44
Carolina. Draft Yeah, they're probably
1:02:45
going back to the Tortorella era group.
1:02:47
Who? Who was it?
1:02:48
Yeah, that like exactly like that's how far back and.
1:02:51
Then further than that, yeah. Noblock was probably their coach
1:02:54
though in in the minors. Noblock, Yeah, Noblock.
1:02:57
Noblock definitely affected that, but I think they also just
1:03:01
have a player development issue. In general, honestly, honestly,
1:03:03
the last player development player that they had in their
1:03:06
farm system was the Neil Smith era.
1:03:09
And that's Brian Leach. That that's the last player that
1:03:13
I can remember as a Ranger, quote UN quote, that they
1:03:17
brought up over the years and developed it.
1:03:19
Mike Richter and and Brian Leach.
1:03:22
Those are the only two guys that I can remember that I that I
1:03:25
could pick out. And Shisturkin is also he's a
1:03:28
development guy, but I, so I won't put a goal down there.
1:03:31
A regular player, it's Brian Leach.
1:03:33
That's it. Yeah, the Rangers have always
1:03:34
developed goaltender as well, but yeah.
1:03:36
Sergei Zubov was a good player. They brought him up.
1:03:39
I. Mean, I guess you can count JT
1:03:41
Miller. Sort of.
1:03:43
He wasn't. Great.
1:03:44
He was too streaky. He wasn't a great player with
1:03:46
the Rangers until he went to Vancouver Rangers.
1:03:48
Yeah. And so it really, if it's Neil
1:03:50
Smith and what are the Rangers do to the guys like Neil Smith?
1:03:54
They never invite him back to games.
1:03:56
They never let him go into the press box.
1:03:58
They treat him like garbage. This guy was the last big, you
1:04:02
know, big GM that they had that won a Stanley Cup in 94, that
1:04:06
drafted the right players and built an organization around
1:04:09
young talent and veterans. He was the one that made the
1:04:12
trade for Marc Messier. He was the one that make the
1:04:14
trade for Adam Graves. He was the one that that moved,
1:04:18
moved players around to bring in Steve Larmer and all those other
1:04:21
guys. But guess what?
1:04:23
The Ranger fans forgot about him because the Rangers haven't won
1:04:26
since then. And then keep talking about
1:04:28
Henrik Lundquist. Henrik Lundquist?
1:04:31
Yeah, he was a great goalie. The Rangers have always had
1:04:33
great goalies, never great players that they built from
1:04:37
their farm systems. And why?
1:04:39
Because of terrible GM's like Chris freaking Drury.
1:04:42
The guy's a loser. He stinks.
1:04:45
He's a worthless piece of garbage.
1:04:46
And I don't want to hear James Dolan go out there on social
1:04:49
media and say, hey, we believe in this guy.
1:04:53
I believe that this guy is going to figure things out.
1:04:56
He hasn't figured it out in five years.
1:04:58
What makes you think he's going to figure it out in the next 7?
1:05:02
So I it's, it's ridiculous. It's absolutely ridiculous.
1:05:06
How many great coaches does he need to hire for James Dolan?
1:05:10
Open up his eyes and realize this guy's a moron.
1:05:13
An absolute moron. A tool bag.
1:05:15
You want to read tool? Because he's a tool, that's why.
1:05:19
Yeah, and it's an organizational issue, too.
1:05:21
When you look at they're trying to be flashy all the time and
1:05:24
they're just missing a lot of the little things.
1:05:26
Even when they're even on their contending teams, like they're
1:05:28
always missing center depth, they're always missing
1:05:30
physicality in the playoffs. It seems like they're always
1:05:33
missing those small things because they want to go for
1:05:35
Flash both with the coaches and with the players that they bring
1:05:37
in. They trade for Rick Nash, flashy
1:05:39
guys, sign Panarin, flashy guy. Like these guys are just
1:05:42
disappointed in the playoffs and it's just they're stuck in a
1:05:44
philosophy that no matter how much they retool or how much
1:05:47
they could get little gems of the third line to develop guys
1:05:50
like Cooley and Lava that actually been pretty good for
1:05:53
for their expectations and prospects.
1:05:54
They still have the Kapo Kakos that flop massively, the LA
1:05:57
veneers that flop massively. It when they come up and the
1:06:00
Rangers just have an organizational structure issue
1:06:02
because they try to do be too flashy and not either fully
1:06:05
rebuild or commit to the right types of players.
1:06:07
And it's a big problem that they have.
1:06:08
And that's why they they might be.
1:06:10
I'm not saying they're like dysfunctional where they're as
1:06:12
badly run as a team like Buffalo, but they haven't been
1:06:15
as good as they should be for a team with that kind of
1:06:17
reputation. Well, it's about time that we
1:06:20
all get it off our chest because as a Ranger fan, it's been
1:06:23
driving me crazy watching them thinking that.
1:06:26
Look, it's a rebuild. It's not a retool.
1:06:29
They have to tear the whole thing down.
1:06:31
And I agree, I would prefer if it was someone besides Drury.
1:06:35
Everyone was complaining about John Davidson before Drury.
1:06:38
I didn't think he was that bad. I thought he made some smart
1:06:41
roster decisions. I thought the that they wrote
1:06:43
the first time was curious and then Drury makes the same
1:06:47
mistake writing the same stupid kind of letter to the fans when
1:06:52
it's obvious all your moves failed.
1:06:55
Dude, you failed and and you're pretending like all you have to
1:06:59
do is retool. No, you got to, you got to light
1:07:02
it on fire, you got to get the cap down, you got to figure out
1:07:05
who your core 4 guys are. Obviously Starkins going to be
1:07:09
one of them because no one's going to take that contract, so
1:07:12
you might as well keep him because he's good.
1:07:14
I love how Trocheck plays. He's from, you know, I think
1:07:17
he's from Pennsylvania. He's from the air, not that far
1:07:20
away. I love that guy.
1:07:21
I love Fox. I hope you can get healthy.
1:07:23
And I want you to give up on him early.
1:07:25
And I think he identified one other guy.
1:07:27
And then you just get rid of everybody and you go young.
1:07:30
What's the point? You got 48 points, you're not
1:07:32
going anywhere. Stop pretending like you need to
1:07:34
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1:07:52
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1:07:54
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1:07:57
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1:07:59
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1:08:01
I'm almost done with it. It will be up probably tomorrow
1:08:04
morning when Speedy gets it up, so stay tuned for that.
1:08:08
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1:08:16
Who do we have on? All right, so we have a, a new
1:08:18
guy Raiders running back. He's currently on the league
1:08:21
right now. His name is Chris Collier.
1:08:22
He's actually from Long Island, went to, grew up in Hempstead,
1:08:25
went to Cedar Point or Cedarhurst.
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I think it is high school. He's one of the Raiders backup
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running backs. He'll be joining us at 8:45 and
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then on Thursday. Time to be determined is a guy
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that's currently in the NFL, that's one of our favorites, and
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Mr. Foye Luwikin. We'll see what time eventually.
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Foye. Foye will be back on He's.
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Going to be joining us, we could talk about the Jaguars.
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He had a great season this year. He was one of the best tacklers
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again in the NFL. He's an elite player.
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He really is. And Foye loves coming on the
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show and we love getting him on the show.
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So we'll we'll get into the Jaguars and his new coach what
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Travis Hunter, we're playing with Travis Hunter in his first
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year the Gremlin and what is his thoughts next year with their
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with the season falling short, how does he feel about next
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season and if they have a chance to win a Super Bowl?
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So we'll get into that with Foyer on Thursday.
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, that's it for our show.
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Speedy, I have anything to say. Job anybody?
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I'm all set. Great show guys.
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Thanks for thanks for tuning in and definitely just a battle
1:09:25
with Spader. Blow my back out as we all say
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goodnight and farewell. It is the worldwide sports radio
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network, Radio network.