Latest / 3 and Out with John Middlekauff / Joe Brady introduced in Buffalo, Jimmy Haslam MAD at people, Fugazi Friday
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- 0:01Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on everybody? How are we
- 0:17Speaker 1: doing John Middlecoff Three and Out podcast. Hopefully you're doing
- 0:22Speaker 1: well out there in the real world. On this beautiful
- 0:25Speaker 1: sunny Fugazi Friday and a lot going on football wise,
- 0:29Speaker 1: that'll hit on. Joe Brady introduced today. Jimmy Haslam had
- 0:33Speaker 1: some comments. We'll do a mail bag at John Middlecoff
- 0:38Speaker 1: is the Instagram fire in the dms and get your
- 0:40Speaker 1: questions answered here on the show. We will have on
- 0:44Speaker 1: I record a day with Stucky. I will put that
- 0:46Speaker 1: out on a Monday, a little preview. I got an interview,
- 0:50Speaker 1: a super Bowl related interview on Monday that will come
- 0:53Speaker 1: out on Tuesday. I think we're recording. I'm gonna be
- 0:56Speaker 1: in San Francisco, like thirty ish hour, thirty six hours.
- 1:01Speaker 1: I'm going to record something from Radio Row. It could
- 1:05Speaker 1: be pretty cool actually on Wednesday, and then I'll be
- 1:09Speaker 1: back on Thursday. So we'll have a bunch of Super
- 1:11Speaker 1: Bowl stuff next week. That'll be the game plan. But today,
- 1:14Speaker 1: Fugazi Friday, and you guys know the drill. I mean,
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- 1:52Speaker 1: dive into the Buffalo bills and the press conference that
- 1:56Speaker 1: I just watched. It happened early on Thursday. I watched
- 2:01Speaker 1: it when I was giving my young son a little
- 2:03Speaker 1: nap on top of my stomach. So I powered through
- 2:07Speaker 1: Joe Brady and some of his thoughts, and my biggest
- 2:10Speaker 1: takeaway was this is not an easy spot for him
- 2:14Speaker 1: because it was a very polarizing decision to fire the
- 2:18Speaker 1: coach when the GM was kept. Obviously that's been well documented.
- 2:22Speaker 1: So I was fascinated to see like if he embraced it.
- 2:26Speaker 1: I mean, he'd work for Sean McDermott for several years
- 2:29Speaker 1: and he started as a position coach, and he became
- 2:31Speaker 1: a coordinator because they fired Ken Dorsey in the middle
- 2:33Speaker 1: of the season, So he not only got an incredible
- 2:36Speaker 1: opportunity to coach a future Hall of Fame quarterback, but
- 2:39Speaker 1: was elevated to the play caller, you know, in the
- 2:42Speaker 1: middle of a season, and obviously it changed the course
- 2:44Speaker 1: of his career. And my takeaway from Joe Brady and
- 2:48Speaker 1: the Sean McDermott situation is I was like, Okay, this
- 2:51Speaker 1: guy gets it. And let's face it, we all know
- 2:53Speaker 1: people in life. There are some people that just get it,
- 2:56Speaker 1: and then there are some people that just for whatever reason,
- 2:59Speaker 1: lack of EQ, lack of feel just lack something and
- 3:03Speaker 1: it just feels like they don't. In my takeaway watching
- 3:06Speaker 1: Joe Brady, whether they had coached him up saying this,
- 3:08Speaker 1: my personal takeaway watch him talk was coming from the heart.
- 3:12Speaker 1: He went out of his way to go on and
- 3:15Speaker 1: on about the opportunity that Sean McDermott gave him, how
- 3:18Speaker 1: much he learned from Sean McDermott, and how he's not
- 3:21Speaker 1: like coming in here. He even said, I am taking
- 3:24Speaker 1: over a job that is dramatically different and better than
- 3:28Speaker 1: the job that Sean took over nine years ago. But
- 3:31Speaker 1: the credit that he gave him for him as a man,
- 3:34Speaker 1: for him as a coach. I went, Okay, this guy
- 3:37Speaker 1: understands that. Like, let's face it, anyone that's married, there
- 3:41Speaker 1: are certain or have volatile work situations, like you gotta
- 3:45Speaker 1: be careful sometimes how you get into a conversation in
- 3:51Speaker 1: various situations in life, and this was one. Like I
- 3:54Speaker 1: watched him of jesse mentor he's making jokes about John
- 3:57Speaker 1: Harbass shooting him. Texts, go crush this guy, get this job.
- 4:00Speaker 1: You should get hired. The relationship in every situation is
- 4:04Speaker 1: completely different. When Jim Harbaugh was hired to take over
- 4:07Speaker 1: for Brandon Staley, no one and I repeat no one
- 4:12Speaker 1: cared if Jim acknowledged the former coach, right, But in
- 4:16Speaker 1: this situation, like he not only is taking over this job,
- 4:20Speaker 1: but he had been on a staff for a while,
- 4:22Speaker 1: and I thought, you know what, Joe Brady, I got
- 4:25Speaker 1: to give him a little more credit than And I
- 4:27Speaker 1: was just judging from the outside. I don't know him personally, Like, Okay,
- 4:31Speaker 1: I understand it. And if you watch just the press
- 4:33Speaker 1: conference went, this guy's impressive. Now, winning a press conference
- 4:37Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything. Jesse Mentor is a fantastic coach. He
- 4:41Speaker 1: has been an elite defensive mind. You watch his press conference,
- 4:45Speaker 1: you don't take away like this guy's some awesome dude
- 4:48Speaker 1: behind a mike. Right, We've seen a lot of Brandon
- 4:51Speaker 1: Staley once upon a time won a press conference. Who
- 4:53Speaker 1: gives a shit, it doesn't matter. But Joe Brady and
- 4:57Speaker 1: he also acknowledged this. There are a lot of expectations
- 5:00Speaker 1: in this job, and I'm embracing them, you know, And
- 5:03Speaker 1: this is not an easy gig in the sense of
- 5:06Speaker 1: we're winning or we're going home like this is no
- 5:09Speaker 1: you know, I went ten and seven. I lot that
- 5:11Speaker 1: this is a team that's been winning a playoff game
- 5:13Speaker 1: for years straight. Like they have won a playoff game
- 5:15Speaker 1: I think six straight years. So this is a team
- 5:18Speaker 1: that's had success. They haven't got over the hump. But
- 5:20Speaker 1: I don't think and I mentioned this on the podcast yesterday,
- 5:23Speaker 1: there is not a job probably next year beside maybe
- 5:26Speaker 1: the Eagles. And that's just every year with the Eagles,
- 5:29Speaker 1: or the expectations are as high, they're just aren't right.
- 5:33Speaker 1: If the Chiefs don't win the Super Bowl, like Andy
- 5:34Speaker 1: Reid ain't getting fired, right, If Jim Harbaugh doesn't make
- 5:38Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game, he ain't getting fired. Kyle Shanahan
- 5:41Speaker 1: went ten and seven and won and done in the playoffs,
- 5:43Speaker 1: He's not getting fired. But this is a situation where
- 5:46Speaker 1: it's like the pressure is insanely high, and he embraced it.
- 5:52Speaker 1: He acknowledged it, and I think he knows what he's
- 5:55Speaker 1: getting into. And you watched him in this press conference.
- 5:58Speaker 1: You went, I understand in an interview setting, because to me,
- 6:02Speaker 1: an interview setting is twofold. You gotta bring some juice.
- 6:05Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan of people that just lack juice.
- 6:10Speaker 1: When I went to the Ryder Cup, one of our
- 6:13Speaker 1: he's just a ball or salesman, Terrence, I'm gonna see
- 6:16Speaker 1: him next week. We met some different people that we
- 6:19Speaker 1: had done business with with a volume, and we met
- 6:21Speaker 1: this one guy who now with the company that we
- 6:24Speaker 1: used to partner with that hopefully we're not partnering with anymore.
- 6:27Speaker 1: He was our contact and we met him and I
- 6:29Speaker 1: remember walking away and Terrence went, God, that guy's a dud.
- 6:32Speaker 1: I'm like, how did this guy ever get hired? And
- 6:35Speaker 1: his resume Actually he just says it out loud in
- 6:38Speaker 1: his profession. Pretty impressive. I'm like, this guy walks into
- 6:41Speaker 1: a room. That's his energy. I hate people that lack energy.
- 6:45Speaker 1: You don't need to be bouncing off the walls twenty
- 6:47Speaker 1: four to seven, But like, you gotta have a little
- 6:49Speaker 1: juice to you, and Joe Brady clearly has juice to
- 6:51Speaker 1: you to them and being the leadership you know, position
- 6:56Speaker 1: when you are young is not easy. Now he has
- 6:58Speaker 1: some built in advantages. Players already know him. And the
- 7:01Speaker 1: other thing is like he's taking over a really good team,
- 7:04Speaker 1: Like he's taking over a team that if he just
- 7:06Speaker 1: does what McDermott did, they'll be fine. Right now, he
- 7:10Speaker 1: has to take that incremental step up. But you know
- 7:13Speaker 1: he claims gonna call plays. Jesse Minner says he's gonna
- 7:16Speaker 1: call plays. I want my hot shot coach who's a
- 7:19Speaker 1: coordinator who gets a job to continue to call plays
- 7:22Speaker 1: whenever a guy says I'm not calling plays like Kevin Stefanski,
- 7:27Speaker 1: who listen. I feel like I'm one of the only
- 7:29Speaker 1: guy critical of the human being in America that talks
- 7:32Speaker 1: about sports nothing personal. I'm just talking about him from
- 7:35Speaker 1: a football standpoint. But I watched some of his press
- 7:38Speaker 1: conference with Matty Ice one. Matty Ice is just pretty
- 7:41Speaker 1: easy higher for Arthur Blank like, he's pretty impressive, and
- 7:44Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski's impressive too on a mic, but when they go, hey,
- 7:47Speaker 1: are you gonna call play, He's like, no, ringing Tommy
- 7:49Speaker 1: Reese to call plays. Well, Kevin, you're not exactly fucking
- 7:52Speaker 1: Bezos or Steve Jobs CEO, Like, shouldn't your point of
- 7:56Speaker 1: difference be your ability to call offensive place? Isn't that
- 7:59Speaker 1: what got you to this point. I've watched the last
- 8:01Speaker 1: couple of years. It's not exactly managing the squad. I
- 8:05Speaker 1: never understand that. I haven't watched Sally yet. I don't
- 8:07Speaker 1: know what he said when it comes to calling the defense,
- 8:10Speaker 1: but I just I can't fathom getting this gig and
- 8:15Speaker 1: leaving behind what you do so well, which is navigating
- 8:20Speaker 1: one of the sides of the ball at a really,
- 8:22Speaker 1: really high level. And I just think if I'm a
- 8:25Speaker 1: Bills fan and I watched that, I can at least
- 8:28Speaker 1: take a breath, a deep breath, a deep exal and go, Okay,
- 8:33Speaker 1: this is we're gonna be Okay. I get what Brandon Bean, Pegoula,
- 8:38Speaker 1: Josh and all these guys that gave the stamp of
- 8:41Speaker 1: approval that they went with him over some of the
- 8:44Speaker 1: other people like watching him. Honestly, I get why they
- 8:47Speaker 1: took a chance on Joe Brady over going back to
- 8:51Speaker 1: the to you know, I guess I wouldn't call it
- 8:54Speaker 1: old faithful, but something they knew before. In Brian Dable like,
- 8:58Speaker 1: I completely understand it. And again his situation like Jesse mean,
- 9:03Speaker 1: they're like making jokes about John Horrorball and John Harbaugh's
- 9:07Speaker 1: in a great place, like everyone's happy. Sean mcdermom's co
- 9:09Speaker 1: coaching this year by all accounts right, some teams have
- 9:12Speaker 1: reached out. Jason Light was a guy they wanted to
- 9:13Speaker 1: bring him on staff. He's like, I'm out. I mean,
- 9:15Speaker 1: he's making a ton of money. He's being paid not
- 9:17Speaker 1: to work, which to me, they say the white picket fence,
- 9:21Speaker 1: a dog and a couple of kids of the American dream,
- 9:23Speaker 1: to meet the American dream? Is that stuff while being
- 9:26Speaker 1: paid over ten million dollars to not work. Because if
- 9:29Speaker 1: you paid me fifteen million dollars to not work, I'll
- 9:32Speaker 1: promise you this, I wouldn't work much. I'd enjoy some life,
- 9:37Speaker 1: especially coming from these jobs. Even Joe Brady said today,
- 9:41Speaker 1: I just had a baby. My producer, Shane had a baby.
- 9:44Speaker 1: I think came out Saturday or Sunday. All the days
- 9:48Speaker 1: are kind of running together. But he's not even a
- 9:50Speaker 1: week in. Joe Brady's like, I want to thank my wife.
- 9:54Speaker 1: One of our little daughters there. I missed her birth
- 9:57Speaker 1: because I was on the way to a game. Nothing
- 9:59Speaker 1: like the bus while my wife's giving birth. To go
- 10:02Speaker 1: fucking play the Jets, to go play. Mike McDaniel like,
- 10:06Speaker 1: that's but that's the business these guys are in. It's
- 10:09Speaker 1: it's a great Sean Payton just fired his best friend.
- 10:13Speaker 1: They just made the Anty Championship game, and he just
- 10:15Speaker 1: fired Joe Lombardi and Sean Payton. I've always supported him,
- 10:21Speaker 1: but he's listen, He's always been kind of arrogant, feeling himself.
- 10:24Speaker 1: It feels like he's gone to another level, you know,
- 10:27Speaker 1: of the confidence that he exudes on himself and his beliefs.
- 10:32Speaker 1: I'm not anti Sean Payton, but I get it how
- 10:35Speaker 1: people like rubs a lot of people the wrong way.
- 10:39Speaker 1: Fired all these coaches. Looked to me like he had
- 10:41Speaker 1: a really good season. It's it's kind of the Fugazi
- 10:43Speaker 1: of the sport. It's like, how are you firing all
- 10:45Speaker 1: these guys like you're firing the wide receiver? Coach? Did
- 10:50Speaker 1: you see your unit? Whatuld you expect ed? McCaffrey, rod
- 10:55Speaker 1: Smith and uh Wes Welker weren't walking through that door?
- 10:59Speaker 1: Fired Joe Lombardy, Well, it's like you just were the
- 11:02Speaker 1: one seed and a seven to nothing lead in the
- 11:04Speaker 1: AFC Championship game. It at a blizzard. I never quite
- 11:07Speaker 1: understand when coaches do that. I get it when you're
- 11:10Speaker 1: the Jets or the Browns, but what happened? Do you
- 11:14Speaker 1: just not like this guy anymore? Which maybe is the case.
- 11:18Speaker 1: An other thing that I saw today is Jimmy has
- 11:21Speaker 1: them I think gave a kind of a side press
- 11:25Speaker 1: conference or maybe this was at the DAIS that he
- 11:28Speaker 1: took offense and exception to people calling his organization dysfunctional. Meanwhile,
- 11:36Speaker 1: they had countless candidates who they clearly would have hired
- 11:40Speaker 1: if would have played out in the process. Withdraw from
- 11:44Speaker 1: his job, he clearly tried to hire a coach that
- 11:49Speaker 1: he could pair with his defensive coordinator, because Jim Schwartz
- 11:53Speaker 1: is one of the best d season the league. A
- 11:55Speaker 1: lot like the Falcons did with Jeff Ulbrich with Kevin Stefanski,
- 12:00Speaker 1: except that worked what they did with Jim Schwartz, stringing
- 12:04Speaker 1: him along. Right, if they had said he's not getting
- 12:07Speaker 1: the job, that they wouldn't have been able to just
- 12:09Speaker 1: hold him around till they got the next coach. He
- 12:11Speaker 1: would have taken another job. He would already be the
- 12:14Speaker 1: defensive coordinator in let's say San Francisco three weeks ago.
- 12:19Speaker 1: So was Jim Schwartz ever getting the job. I think
- 12:21Speaker 1: it's pretty clear no, he wasn't. They wanted to hire
- 12:24Speaker 1: an offensive coach, and they wanted to convince Jim Schwartz
- 12:27Speaker 1: to stay. But they convinced Jim Schwartz, at least on
- 12:31Speaker 1: his side, that he had a chance to get the job,
- 12:34Speaker 1: which I don't think he ever did. And once he
- 12:36Speaker 1: doesn't get the job, especially for Todd Munkin, I think
- 12:40Speaker 1: he knows I got played the whole time, and the
- 12:43Speaker 1: Browns are leaking out like, well he's under contract. Well, guys,
- 12:47Speaker 1: that's not how the business works. This isn't a player
- 12:51Speaker 1: if you're not gonna hire him as the coach, and
- 12:53Speaker 1: you were going to hire another coach like those guys
- 12:56Speaker 1: look around the league are kind of free to leave,
- 12:58Speaker 1: and Jim Schwartz is already leered out his office double
- 13:02Speaker 1: middle fingers is pissed off, which I totally understand. But
- 13:07Speaker 1: your job search was led by the idea that candidates
- 13:12Speaker 1: had to do homework and write essays for your hiring committee.
- 13:19Speaker 1: That is embarrassing. And if that's not your idea, which
- 13:23Speaker 1: I doubt it is, allowing that idea to go down
- 13:26Speaker 1: to me is even worse. Like your family has been
- 13:29Speaker 1: highly successful in the world of business. To let your
- 13:34Speaker 1: general manager, assuming it's his idea, conduct that and have
- 13:38Speaker 1: that part of the process to me is on you
- 13:40Speaker 1: because you've hired this guy. You've been around this business
- 13:44Speaker 1: long enough to know, like, this is a bad idea.
- 13:47Speaker 1: What are we doing? And it backfired and the Browns
- 13:52Speaker 1: a lot like the Jets, who reported that Aaron Glenn
- 13:55Speaker 1: after the season had exit meetings with every coach but
- 13:59Speaker 1: didn't really tell anyone specifically, like if they were good
- 14:02Speaker 1: or if they were gonna get fired. But then after
- 14:05Speaker 1: the weeks went by, like most human beings would, they
- 14:08Speaker 1: just thought that they were just gonna keep their job
- 14:11Speaker 1: as a position coach, as a coordinator. And then after
- 14:14Speaker 1: the AFC and NFC Championship games. When the Jets have
- 14:17Speaker 1: been eliminated for basically a month, he starts firing coaches
- 14:22Speaker 1: left and right. I'm sorry like that to me, he's
- 14:27Speaker 1: on the owner and this feels like the owner playing
- 14:31Speaker 1: general manager, which consistently happens with the Jets and consistently
- 14:35Speaker 1: happens with the Browns, And I'll never forget this. When
- 14:38Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh was run out of town in San Francisco
- 14:41Speaker 1: and they mutually departed aka fired him, Jed York gave
- 14:45Speaker 1: a famous press conference locally, and one of the things
- 14:48Speaker 1: he said is, well, because a lot of people were asking,
- 14:52Speaker 1: in what world are you getting rid of this guy?
- 14:54Speaker 1: How is this happening? And it was hard for him
- 14:56Speaker 1: to justify it because what he wanted to say is like,
- 14:59Speaker 1: I just can't stand he's an asshole, right, because he
- 15:01Speaker 1: couldn't say he's a bad coach. He just didn't like him.
- 15:04Speaker 1: But it was hard to You can't really say that
- 15:07Speaker 1: because then you look like a complete loser. And there
- 15:10Speaker 1: was this rumor at the time going around that Jed
- 15:13Speaker 1: got kicked out of a of a team meeting that
- 15:18Speaker 1: basically Jim said, grown ups only if it is true. One,
- 15:23Speaker 1: I mean, that's one of the craziest things the head
- 15:24Speaker 1: coaches ever said to a guy that signs is checks,
- 15:27Speaker 1: and two it's also pretty embarrassing at the owner. I
- 15:29Speaker 1: don't believe it's true, but there were enough rumors going
- 15:32Speaker 1: around these guys button heads, the jam button heads. But
- 15:35Speaker 1: Jed said, you can't fire the you can't fire the owner.
- 15:37Speaker 1: So it's like, I'm not gonna fire myself. We fire
- 15:40Speaker 1: people because I stay. And that's true for all these
- 15:43Speaker 1: guys now, Jimmy Haslam and uh, Woody Johnson. It's pretty
- 15:50Speaker 1: clear at this point in time these organizations have no
- 15:53Speaker 1: chance with either guy. And the sad part is it's
- 15:56Speaker 1: not one of those situations where it's like, well, these
- 15:58Speaker 1: these guys just kind of lack the big time money
- 16:01Speaker 1: to play with the big boys. That's not the Browns problem.
- 16:04Speaker 1: They spent as much cash as like the Eagles and
- 16:06Speaker 1: the forty nine ers over the course the last four years.
- 16:08Speaker 1: Jimmy has one that spent huge money. Woody is swimming
- 16:12Speaker 1: in dough so it's not a lack of money. It's
- 16:16Speaker 1: like when the Miami Dolphins guys were hired. Watching their
- 16:18Speaker 1: press conference, they said listen. Thing that fired me up
- 16:21Speaker 1: is when Steven Ross looked at both of us in
- 16:23Speaker 1: the interview process and said, we will not lose for
- 16:26Speaker 1: lack of resources. You will get whatever you need for
- 16:30Speaker 1: whatever you need. And the Browns and the Jets fall
- 16:34Speaker 1: under that category of like money ain't their problem. It's
- 16:37Speaker 1: a decision making situation. And these guys just can't stay
- 16:41Speaker 1: out of their own way. And they're clearly extremely involved,
- 16:44Speaker 1: and they clearly have a lot of opinions, which is
- 16:47Speaker 1: their prerogative because they own the team, but it's also
- 16:50Speaker 1: a terrible way to operate and something that is never
- 16:52Speaker 1: gonna work, and they have no chance. The Jets have
- 16:56Speaker 1: absolutely Aaron Glenn's a dead man walking there. He's fucked.
- 17:02Speaker 1: I would put his over under getting fired by a
- 17:04Speaker 1: Halloween and I'm I'm I was pro Aaron Glenn at Detroit.
- 17:08Speaker 1: Now I read flagged him once he got the job
- 17:10Speaker 1: and he refused to call the defense and obviously I've
- 17:13Speaker 1: double red flagged him when his staff is terrible, and Hea,
- 17:15Speaker 1: you gotta fire everybody, like if you're gonna be the
- 17:17Speaker 1: CEO coach, you're gonna be very dependent on your staff,
- 17:19Speaker 1: and you fire and everybody he ain't a good sign.
- 17:22Speaker 1: But this, this Brown situation is pretty similar. I'm not
- 17:26Speaker 1: some like Todd Munkin hater a lot like Aaron Glenn.
- 17:28Speaker 1: I thought he was a really good coordinator. But do
- 17:30Speaker 1: I think he has any chance on God's green Earth
- 17:33Speaker 1: to function at just an average level, let alone a
- 17:37Speaker 1: high level in Cleveland? No, I don't I short that situation,
- 17:43Speaker 1: or I would over and over and over again, and
- 17:46Speaker 1: I get back to and whether you think I'm being
- 17:49Speaker 1: unfair or not. You force coaching candidates to write essays
- 17:54Speaker 1: for your job, I just I look at you like
- 17:58Speaker 1: an embarrassment to the sport, to the profession, to just
- 18:02Speaker 1: to life. Like I just think you don't get it.
- 18:05Speaker 1: I don't think you understand what you're dealing with. And
- 18:08Speaker 1: the other part of it, like they had to do homework.
- 18:10Speaker 1: Any coach worth their salt, just like any human being
- 18:16Speaker 1: that has any sort of ambition and desire for a gig,
- 18:22Speaker 1: especially something like an NFL head coach or a CEO
- 18:25Speaker 1: job when they interview, would have done their own homework,
- 18:29Speaker 1: would be extremely prepared. That's part of their job, I
- 18:34Speaker 1: you know, or that's part of the role of trying
- 18:37Speaker 1: to get a job is to come in of like, hey,
- 18:39Speaker 1: I've done hours worth of prep on this situation. Now
- 18:42Speaker 1: you don't know all the questions that are coming. But
- 18:45Speaker 1: most high level people would do homework before they sat
- 18:48Speaker 1: in an interview chair for a position such as being
- 18:52Speaker 1: an NFL head coach. I did a ton of homework
- 18:54Speaker 1: when I interviewed to be, you know, essentially an intern.
- 18:59Speaker 1: It was like the lowest guy on the totem pole
- 19:00Speaker 1: with the Philadelphia Eagles my first year. I mean, I
- 19:04Speaker 1: spent hours and the internet was a little different back then,
- 19:06Speaker 1: but did everything I could, not that it didn't ended
- 19:08Speaker 1: up mattering at all. But I can't even imagine what
- 19:11Speaker 1: it's like being a head coach or interviewing for a
- 19:13Speaker 1: head coach. The amount of time and tape you watch
- 19:16Speaker 1: and people you call and connections you try to make
- 19:19Speaker 1: in preparation, so to force someone to do your homework
- 19:22Speaker 1: like the same the the IVY leagues, Buddy, this is
- 19:26Speaker 1: the NFL. Uh So, just I feel for Browns fans.
- 19:31Speaker 1: I feel for Jets fans because as long as those
- 19:33Speaker 1: two guys own it, I think you're at a huge,
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- 21:31Speaker 1: the mailback couple of Fugazi's One Big Fugazi, which was
- 21:35Speaker 1: on full display this week, I'm out on the subjective
- 21:39Speaker 1: awards right to me. You win the NBA Championship, you
- 21:44Speaker 1: win the US Open, the Seattle Seahawks in a week
- 21:51Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. That is an honor in which
- 21:54Speaker 1: they've earned. Right. It is objective. There's no people ain't
- 21:59Speaker 1: voting on it. You just earn the right by winning
- 22:02Speaker 1: the game, by winning the tournament, you win the Australian Open,
- 22:06Speaker 1: you do whatever you win, you get the trophy. Yet
- 22:11Speaker 1: so many things as we see with the Hall of Fame,
- 22:13Speaker 1: with the Pro ball is no longer the Pro Bowl,
- 22:16Speaker 1: like we need to cancel that. I think we're all
- 22:18Speaker 1: in agreement. But the Hall of Fame. You know, the
- 22:22Speaker 1: guy from Kansas City wrote the article, wrote an article
- 22:27Speaker 1: why he didn't vote for Bill, And one of the
- 22:29Speaker 1: things in the article was he didn't want to pass
- 22:31Speaker 1: on these old timers that if he didn't vote for
- 22:34Speaker 1: them now they would be off the ballot and never
- 22:36Speaker 1: get to go in. Doesn't that tell you everything you
- 22:39Speaker 1: need to know. If you've been on the ballot that long,
- 22:42Speaker 1: you're probably not a Hall of Famer. There is not
- 22:45Speaker 1: a ballot in which someone like Bill Belichick or Ray Lewis,
- 22:49Speaker 1: or Tom Brady or Bill Walsh or now Andy Reid.
- 22:52Speaker 1: Certain guys go on it. They're just an automatic check.
- 22:56Speaker 1: We live in a society of winners and losers. Even
- 23:00Speaker 1: with the winners, people separate at the top. There are
- 23:03Speaker 1: a lot of rich people, right, some guys are one
- 23:05Speaker 1: hundred million dollars and some people are bezos and elon.
- 23:08Speaker 1: There's always separating factors, right, Just like, hey, I know
- 23:11Speaker 1: this guy played in the NFL for ten years as
- 23:14Speaker 1: a rotational player. Hey, I know Peyton Manning, right, there's
- 23:17Speaker 1: a big difference in those two guys. They both played
- 23:19Speaker 1: in the NFL. And if you have to vote for
- 23:21Speaker 1: some guy because he's not going to be on the
- 23:23Speaker 1: ballot in a year, he probably didn't deserve to be
- 23:25Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. I can't speak to Roger
- 23:28Speaker 1: Craig a little before my time forty nine er. Obviously
- 23:30Speaker 1: he was a really good player and a really key guy.
- 23:33Speaker 1: But if it's taken him this long and there's this
- 23:35Speaker 1: many debates, he's probably not a Hall of Famer. There
- 23:37Speaker 1: has never been a room where people have sat talking
- 23:39Speaker 1: about football and go, you think Bill Belichick's Hall of Famer.
- 23:42Speaker 1: There's never been a sane human being that went no.
- 23:46Speaker 1: All of their immediate responses were yes, unless you're Bill
- 23:49Speaker 1: polly In and you're just angry at life. And I
- 23:51Speaker 1: know his son's on Twitter today pissed off. It's like
- 23:53Speaker 1: I've said this forever. I never blame brothers, sisters, parents, kids, wives,
- 24:02Speaker 1: like when they say emotional things on social media after
- 24:05Speaker 1: wins and losses, like people like, of course they're emotionally
- 24:11Speaker 1: tied to the situation in a different like that's his wife.
- 24:15Speaker 1: She sleeps in the same bed as the guy every night,
- 24:17Speaker 1: so yeah, she's allowed to say stupid shit. And I
- 24:21Speaker 1: don't hold Brian Pollian for getting mad at the same time,
- 24:24Speaker 1: like I'm sorry, Like his dad doesn't look great in
- 24:27Speaker 1: this situation, but neither do the guys that didn't vote
- 24:29Speaker 1: for And however you want to justify it, there is
- 24:32Speaker 1: no way to come around to say, yeah, I checked
- 24:35Speaker 1: this guy's box over that guy's box. You just can't,
- 24:38Speaker 1: especially when those guys boxes. It's like, well, it came
- 24:41Speaker 1: down between Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Bill Belichick, and
- 24:44Speaker 1: I only got to vote for two out of the three,
- 24:46Speaker 1: and I leaned with the players, like, Okay, I would
- 24:49Speaker 1: be like, bo, that's an understandable argument. But you can't
- 24:52Speaker 1: be like, hey, there're some old timers from the sixties
- 24:54Speaker 1: and seventies and eighties, like if they've been on this long, storry,
- 24:57Speaker 1: see you later, peace audios. So these subjective awards in Hollywood,
- 25:02Speaker 1: in music, in football, they've never meant that much to me.
- 25:08Speaker 1: And now it's like I just don't even take them seriously.
- 25:13Speaker 1: A couple other things on I was texting with a
- 25:16Speaker 1: buddy in the NFL, and I said, he has some
- 25:20Speaker 1: young kids. He's my age, give or take. I said,
- 25:23Speaker 1: how did you have babies in the middle of the season.
- 25:27Speaker 1: You know this guy grinder only home for three or
- 25:30Speaker 1: four days, you know, during the week, sleeping probably six
- 25:33Speaker 1: or seven hours max. Right, so he's coming home, going
- 25:35Speaker 1: to bed, getting up early out. He's like, you kind
- 25:39Speaker 1: of live a different life than your wife. And I've
- 25:42Speaker 1: always judged I had kids later, right, I'm forty, and
- 25:47Speaker 1: I've always judged people with kids, like a million people
- 25:50Speaker 1: have kids. It's not that hard, Like your life's not
- 25:52Speaker 1: that difficult. And I was texting them the other day
- 25:55Speaker 1: and I said, you know what's crazy is having a
- 25:58Speaker 1: kid or having kids and relating to single people or
- 26:02Speaker 1: people without kids. It's like playing in the NFL versus
- 26:06Speaker 1: playing pee wee football. It's not even a comparable situation.
- 26:10Speaker 1: I was looking at my wife. I'm like, you know,
- 26:11Speaker 1: the crazy part about this is we can't be like,
- 26:13Speaker 1: hey man, we don't have to do anything on Saturday,
- 26:16Speaker 1: no work for you, no work for me. We could
- 26:18Speaker 1: just sleep in, go get some brunch, just hang out
- 26:21Speaker 1: and do nothing those days there's not just a day off.
- 26:25Speaker 1: It doesn't exist. And I've always judged these people that
- 26:28Speaker 1: kind of look down upon us childless individuals of like
- 26:32Speaker 1: ky their lives easy. I was like, man, I gotta
- 26:34Speaker 1: understand it now. I guess you can't really relate, especially
- 26:37Speaker 1: with a young kids situation. It is. It's not easy.
- 26:44Speaker 1: It's just relentless. It's just NonStop. It's like, you know,
- 26:47Speaker 1: like when the rain comes. Eventually, you know the rain's
- 26:49Speaker 1: gonna stop and the sun will come out, maybe a
- 26:52Speaker 1: rainbow fires out. Rain just keeps on coming. There's another pee,
- 26:57Speaker 1: there's another shit, there's another cry, there's another awake at
- 27:00Speaker 1: two am, and it's just I get it. And this
- 27:03Speaker 1: is also falls into the category of I had my
- 27:07Speaker 1: college roommate's girlfriend that I think we kind of lost
- 27:11Speaker 1: touch after school. I think they got married and got
- 27:14Speaker 1: a bad divorce, but she used to she was cool
- 27:16Speaker 1: at the time. I'm not sure exactly what happened, but
- 27:18Speaker 1: I probably would have bet against it working long term
- 27:22Speaker 1: back in like two thousand and eight, so not totally
- 27:24Speaker 1: surprised that they didn't last. She used to call me
- 27:28Speaker 1: judging John, and it was actually turned out to be appropriate.
- 27:31Speaker 1: You know, gott into scouting, gotten a radio where I
- 27:33Speaker 1: talk about other people like I'm I could be a
- 27:35Speaker 1: little judgmental that, there's no way around it. That's why
- 27:37Speaker 1: I think I've had success at this. I have a
- 27:38Speaker 1: lot of opinions on a lot of things that don't
- 27:40Speaker 1: have anything to do with me. And maybe I've always
- 27:42Speaker 1: been like that. That's the way my brain works, and
- 27:45Speaker 1: I've always thought, and I'm sure I'm not alone like
- 27:49Speaker 1: being a stay at home mom and not to look
- 27:52Speaker 1: down upon it, but it's like, can't be that word.
- 27:54Speaker 1: Give me a break now. I will stand by once
- 27:57Speaker 1: your kids are in like junior high and high school,
- 27:59Speaker 1: Like you got a lot of time to go to
- 28:00Speaker 1: the gym, hang out. There's not that much due to
- 28:02Speaker 1: the middle of the day. But there is no doubt
- 28:04Speaker 1: in my mind that being a stay at home mom
- 28:08Speaker 1: early on when the baby's born, those first several years
- 28:13Speaker 1: is way more challenging than the majority of our jobs,
- 28:17Speaker 1: way more challenging. I would rather you put me out
- 28:21Speaker 1: in the fields with the hoe again. Back when I
- 28:23Speaker 1: was like eighteen, I'd get thrown out in the tomato
- 28:25Speaker 1: fields or the construction crew. When I was nineteen, summer
- 28:28Speaker 1: of college that were fucking in the one hundred and
- 28:30Speaker 1: ten degrees. It was hard. I mean it was not easy.
- 28:34Speaker 1: I couldn't do the I mean I'd do the kid
- 28:36Speaker 1: for like an hour, I'm like, I need a break.
- 28:38Speaker 1: I mean, it's a lot, a lot of respect. So
- 28:41Speaker 1: while I could be judgmental and have been for a
- 28:43Speaker 1: long time, I'll take the yl on that. That's to
- 28:46Speaker 1: think that just like staying at home with the kid
- 28:49Speaker 1: is easy once you see it firsthand, because it's one
- 28:51Speaker 1: thing when you see other kids like get the helicopter in,
- 28:53Speaker 1: helicopter out, when it's just yours and you just stare
- 28:56Speaker 1: at it and you're like, this thing ain't going away.
- 28:59Speaker 1: These cries, the bathroom breaks, this just disasters on a
- 29:03Speaker 1: daily basis of curveballs. It's not easy. So a ton
- 29:08Speaker 1: of respect for you know, the moms out there just
- 29:11Speaker 1: staying at home. That that is fucking It's hard. It's
- 29:14Speaker 1: a big time challenge now this early age. Once you
- 29:18Speaker 1: get to high school, I stand by, I'm not quite
- 29:20Speaker 1: sure what you do all day, but early on, for sure,
- 29:24Speaker 1: a ton of respect, a lot of respect. Couldn't do it,
- 29:26Speaker 1: can't do it, would do it if I had to do,
- 29:30Speaker 1: but don't plan on it. Uh So, hat tip to
- 29:33Speaker 1: you guys. Okay, let's dive into the mailbag at John
- 29:49Speaker 1: Middlecoff at John Middlecoff is the Instagram, Fire into those
- 29:54Speaker 1: d ms and get your questions answered here on the show.
- 29:57Speaker 1: I've heard Chiefs media saying they need a rebuild. I've
- 30:01Speaker 1: heard media saying the Chiefs need a rebuild, not necessarily
- 30:03Speaker 1: like the local media. I think you trade McDuffie, Spags,
- 30:07Speaker 1: Beach have done well getting DB's later in the draft, Watson,
- 30:10Speaker 1: Snead and Williams because he's gonna get paid like a
- 30:13Speaker 1: top three dB in the league. Then you trade Chris
- 30:16Speaker 1: Jones and load up on picks. Then you get a
- 30:19Speaker 1: few key pieces in the draft, or trade some picks
- 30:22Speaker 1: for veteran free agents to fill some gaps. Chris Jones
- 30:27Speaker 1: is gonna get traded this offseason. I will be stunned
- 30:30Speaker 1: if Chris Jones on the team. I can't see it.
- 30:33Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, who's in the pro am on Wednesday at
- 30:37Speaker 1: the Waste Management, I think we've seen the last of him.
- 30:41Speaker 1: So of the Mahomes, Kelsey Chris Jones kind of tandem,
- 30:47Speaker 1: I think two of them are gone and they have
- 30:50Speaker 1: the ninth pick in the draft. I had a buddy
- 30:52Speaker 1: send me a pick of Veach on the sideline at
- 30:54Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. I mean, this is a massive draft
- 30:56Speaker 1: for the Chiefs. They not only have the ninth pick,
- 30:58Speaker 1: I mean they just have a high pick in every
- 31:00Speaker 1: So if they can nail the ninth pick and get
- 31:03Speaker 1: an elite player, and if with their next couple picks
- 31:07Speaker 1: they can get starters like that, they could plug holes
- 31:09Speaker 1: really really quick and kind of bottom feet a little
- 31:12Speaker 1: on free agents, but get guys that want to come
- 31:14Speaker 1: there and win. I'm with you. I think I would
- 31:19Speaker 1: fully expect them to go a defensive lineman with the
- 31:21Speaker 1: ninth overall pick. The Detroit Lions have hired oc Drew
- 31:25Speaker 1: Petsing from Arizona, along with adding Mike Kafka yesterday. Any
- 31:29Speaker 1: thoughts about these editions. I've never met Drew, but people
- 31:35Speaker 1: I know in the league I've always thought really highly
- 31:37Speaker 1: of them, and I think people clearly Dan Campbell hiring
- 31:40Speaker 1: them after the Arizona situation. I thought watching them play
- 31:43Speaker 1: last year with Jacoby Brissett was pretty impressive. You know,
- 31:46Speaker 1: the Kyler Murray situation was a disaster and Jonathan Gannon
- 31:49Speaker 1: signed up for a coaching job, which I get it,
- 31:53Speaker 1: there are only so many in the league with him
- 31:55Speaker 1: under contract in a backfire, and I mean a huge
- 31:57Speaker 1: reason he got fired was their quarterback situation and he
- 32:01Speaker 1: got injured and then he just wasn't any good and
- 32:03Speaker 1: then he essentially got bench for Jacoby Brissette, which was
- 32:06Speaker 1: the right move. But toward the end of the like
- 32:11Speaker 1: I watched games where Jacoby was just playing well, thrown
- 32:13Speaker 1: for a bunch of yards. I think one game against
- 32:15Speaker 1: the Niners he threw four hundred and fifty. Last game
- 32:17Speaker 1: of the season, he was slinging against the Rams who
- 32:19Speaker 1: were trying. So you give him golf, you give him
- 32:22Speaker 1: Saint Brown, give him Jamison Williams Laporta. I mean, it's
- 32:27Speaker 1: got to be better than Johnny Morton. Will the Seahawks
- 32:32Speaker 1: potentially get to keep Kubiak because teams like the Raiders
- 32:34Speaker 1: won't want to wait. Why is of recording this Thursday afternoon?
- 32:39Speaker 1: It sure feels like the Raiders are gonna get Kubiak,
- 32:42Speaker 1: And it does also feel like Mendoza is a Shanahan
- 32:48Speaker 1: Kubiak type player. Like I think that system is Taylor
- 32:51Speaker 1: made for his skill set, so makes a lot of sense.
- 32:55Speaker 1: Now the leadership commanding a room. I don't you know,
- 32:58Speaker 1: he's only been a coordinated for a couple of years.
- 33:00Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I like to hire from the raiders.
- 33:03Speaker 1: When a kicker gets hurt during a game, why is
- 33:06Speaker 1: the punter completely not able to execute field goals. I've
- 33:09Speaker 1: never been to an NFL practice, but do these special
- 33:12Speaker 1: But what do these specialists do during the week. Wouldn't
- 33:15Speaker 1: you think the only carry one guy each on game day?
- 33:17Speaker 1: You would spend some extra time on certain emergency situations
- 33:20Speaker 1: during the practice week, not asking for long attempts, but
- 33:23Speaker 1: an extra point or anything inside forty I think you
- 33:26Speaker 1: would be shocked. They don't do much. It's not like
- 33:30Speaker 1: they spend one You gotta save your legs and you
- 33:34Speaker 1: go to these practices if it's not and this would
- 33:36Speaker 1: be college too, if it's not special teams practice. Sometimes
- 33:40Speaker 1: they're just hanging out on the side, kind of dicking around.
- 33:43Speaker 1: So you know, I think you gotta be careful about
- 33:45Speaker 1: not throwing out your leg and injuring yourself. They're called
- 33:50Speaker 1: specialists for reason. It's a very specialized kind of situation.
- 33:54Speaker 1: So I don't really know what to tell you, Ideally, yes,
- 33:59Speaker 1: my punter should be able to make an extra point
- 34:02Speaker 1: and my field goal kicker should be able to just
- 34:04Speaker 1: get off a punt. But we have seen time and
- 34:07Speaker 1: time again that they can't. So I think at this
- 34:09Speaker 1: point in time it's safe to say it's not because,
- 34:11Speaker 1: like just they're just not able to. It is a
- 34:15Speaker 1: very very specific thing, the kicking field goals and the punting,
- 34:20Speaker 1: and there just aren't many guys that can do both.
- 34:23Speaker 1: But part of the reason that a lot of these
- 34:25Speaker 1: coaches don't respect those because they look around practice they're
- 34:27Speaker 1: just dicking around eating sun flower seeds, packing a chew,
- 34:30Speaker 1: hanging out. Meanwhile, you're running goal line, full padded practices
- 34:35Speaker 1: and training camp and they're drinking gatorade with the trainers
- 34:37Speaker 1: on the sideline. I live in Denver and I was
- 34:40Speaker 1: at the AFC Chip Game. The weather was not nearly
- 34:43Speaker 1: as bad as it looked on TV, and one hundred
- 34:45Speaker 1: percent not as bad as it has been talked about.
- 34:47Speaker 1: You could see and it was not terribly cold. I'm
- 34:50Speaker 1: sure Chicago was colder and felt colder. I don't think
- 34:53Speaker 1: we were judging it on the cold. I think most
- 34:57Speaker 1: people that once they showed the behind view Drake may
- 35:01Speaker 1: miss an out route. It was the wind. It is
- 35:04Speaker 1: extremely hard to play and wind. There have been way
- 35:07Speaker 1: colder games in the last five years. In that game,
- 35:10Speaker 1: to me on TV, it looked like you couldn't see,
- 35:14Speaker 1: but when you watch them pass, like they knew where
- 35:16Speaker 1: they were throwing it to it was the wind on
- 35:18Speaker 1: the kicks on the passes. To me, the wind. Players
- 35:24Speaker 1: will gladly play in ten degrees if there's no wind,
- 35:28Speaker 1: but I would much rather play if I was a
- 35:30Speaker 1: quarterback or a wide receiver fifteen degrees no wind. You
- 35:34Speaker 1: tell me it's thirty five degrees, but it's thirty mile
- 35:37Speaker 1: an hour wins. It's really really difficult to play. So
- 35:40Speaker 1: to me, that was the factor of the swirling wins.
- 35:44Speaker 1: What role do OC's and DC's play when their head
- 35:46Speaker 1: coaches calling plays on that side of the ball. After
- 35:49Speaker 1: Peyton fired the broncos OC and hearing his reasoning, it
- 35:52Speaker 1: seems like the coordinators that don't call plays are always
- 35:55Speaker 1: somewhat sitting in a lame duck position. I totally agree.
- 35:59Speaker 1: I don't know if there was a certain situation that happened.
- 36:02Speaker 1: I read some of Joe Lombardi's quotes. He kind of
- 36:05Speaker 1: took the high road by also saying, like, yeah, I
- 36:08Speaker 1: thought we were pretty good. I thought we were close friends,
- 36:11Speaker 1: but clearly got the sense over the last couple of
- 36:13Speaker 1: months something was up. They're definitely in a lame duck
- 36:17Speaker 1: situation because, like Sean, you're the play caller. I think
- 36:20Speaker 1: they depend on those guys from a game planning standpoint,
- 36:23Speaker 1: From a situational standpoint, those guys are heavily involved during
- 36:28Speaker 1: the week on third down, on goal line, on first
- 36:32Speaker 1: and second down, on must have downs, short yardage, you know,
- 36:36Speaker 1: two point plays. But to me, it can be it's
- 36:42Speaker 1: got a little fugazi element to it, like are you
- 36:45Speaker 1: just firing a guy to fire a guy? Are you
- 36:46Speaker 1: just firing a guy to mix it up? Does the
- 36:48Speaker 1: owner want these guys fired, because it doesn't make that
- 36:51Speaker 1: much sense, Like, you guys are pretty well coached guys,
- 36:53Speaker 1: pretty good quarterback can be a little hit or miss,
- 36:57Speaker 1: and if people are interviewing the quarterback coach to be
- 37:00Speaker 1: the head coach. So I don't know, maybe they just
- 37:04Speaker 1: fired everybody to elevate Davis Webb, assuming he's not going
- 37:08Speaker 1: to get a job. But I don't know they do
- 37:12Speaker 1: play a big role, but they're also in a weird spot,
- 37:16Speaker 1: like they're not going to get criticized by the public
- 37:18Speaker 1: or the media, but internally the coach can turn on
- 37:22Speaker 1: them and like you said, be an easy fall guy,
- 37:25Speaker 1: it's like, well, I didn't call that play, and maybe did.
- 37:28Speaker 1: I mean, they definitely are in the headsets and give
- 37:31Speaker 1: it ideas. So only the people in the headsets truly
- 37:36Speaker 1: know their impact. Like maybe some places they kind of
- 37:39Speaker 1: influence and call more plays, you know, because sometimes a
- 37:42Speaker 1: play call, it's like, hey, you know, I send in
- 37:46Speaker 1: the second down call. I'm the play caller slash head coach.
- 37:49Speaker 1: I get on the headset, I'm like, hey, what do
- 37:51Speaker 1: you guys like if we don't get this on third
- 37:52Speaker 1: and short and I chime in with play acts and
- 37:57Speaker 1: the coach goes, okay, I like it, and then I
- 37:59Speaker 1: go with it. And if it works, like the head
- 38:02Speaker 1: coach gets the credit, not that guy, or vice versa,
- 38:05Speaker 1: it fails like I get shitped on. So it's kind
- 38:08Speaker 1: of a weird position to be in. It's one of
- 38:10Speaker 1: those I mean, it pays a decent amount, so it's
- 38:13Speaker 1: not like guys are not going to turn down those jobs,
- 38:16Speaker 1: But to me, I think you'd rather just beat the
- 38:18Speaker 1: quarterback coach or the offensive coordinator who's calling the place.
- 38:25Speaker 1: I understand the Titans have been a joke over the
- 38:27Speaker 1: past few years, but I think more people should be
- 38:29Speaker 1: talking about Cam as a future star. With absolutely no
- 38:33Speaker 1: one at wide out, no run game, he put up
- 38:35Speaker 1: three thousand yards, seventeen touchdowns, and seven seven interceptions. From
- 38:38Speaker 1: Week eleven on he total twelve touchdowns. I understand Cam
- 38:42Speaker 1: is in the same caliber athlete as Drake, but some
- 38:45Speaker 1: of the tight throws down the field Cam made all
- 38:47Speaker 1: year absolutely ridiculous. Do you think he has what it takes.
- 38:51Speaker 1: He definitely has a lot of physical gifts. Like you said,
- 38:54Speaker 1: he can sling it. His highlight plays are sick. So
- 38:58Speaker 1: there is no disputing there is I want there to
- 39:00Speaker 1: work with, and you get day Ball, who has molded
- 39:04Speaker 1: it's not apples to apples but kind of a raw
- 39:06Speaker 1: product and turned him into or you know, played a
- 39:09Speaker 1: role in turning him into a star. So I think
- 39:13Speaker 1: day Ball, I saw Saula had a quote like he's
- 39:15Speaker 1: the right guy for this job. If I'm a Titans fan,
- 39:17Speaker 1: I'm most excited to get Dayball to work with this
- 39:20Speaker 1: guy who you kind of get to mold, and like
- 39:23Speaker 1: you said, he made some plays. He had some really
- 39:25Speaker 1: sweet plays against the forty nine ers. The team I
- 39:29Speaker 1: kind of look at it like Drake May last year,
- 39:31Speaker 1: like Kayleb Williams last year, like Jared Goffis first year.
- 39:34Speaker 1: The team was such a joke, Like what am I
- 39:37Speaker 1: even supposed to take away? What judgment am I even
- 39:40Speaker 1: supposed to have. I look at him no different than
- 39:42Speaker 1: when he was coming out of college. Big arm, playmaker,
- 39:49Speaker 1: good athlete, not really a runner, but a scrambler to throw.
- 39:53Speaker 1: If I'm a Tightan fan, I'm excited, like he's let's
- 39:57Speaker 1: look in your division. He's physically more gifted than C. J. Stroud, Obviously,
- 40:02Speaker 1: he's more gifted than Colts whatever the hell they got,
- 40:05Speaker 1: and he has a stronger arm than Trevor. Trevor is
- 40:10Speaker 1: a better athlete. Do you think there has ever been
- 40:14Speaker 1: any other team in all of sports better to root
- 40:17Speaker 1: for over the past twenty years? In the New England Patriots,
- 40:20Speaker 1: I cannot believe they're back in the Super Bowl. I
- 40:23Speaker 1: hope Seattle s Thompson ps. It's Wednesday and my throat
- 40:26Speaker 1: still hurts. I think I'm perman league damaged from my
- 40:29Speaker 1: hearing from being at the game. What an atmosphere. I
- 40:33Speaker 1: think it's a Denver fan. It doesn't get much better. Man,
- 40:38Speaker 1: you could argue, can you imagine being a Boston fan
- 40:42Speaker 1: like my age, like coming in junior high high school
- 40:45Speaker 1: around two thousand and one, two thousand and two, two
- 40:48Speaker 1: thousand and three, what the Red Sox won for World
- 40:51Speaker 1: Series came back? I mean it kind of started with
- 40:55Speaker 1: Brady a one, then the Red Sox breaking the curse
- 41:00Speaker 1: coming back from the Yankees three nothing with just an
- 41:03Speaker 1: incredible squad, Big Poppy Manny the SoC game, Pedro Martinez,
- 41:10Speaker 1: just a Tito Francona. That team was. When I used
- 41:14Speaker 1: to work in local radio, Kevin Euclis because we talked
- 41:16Speaker 1: a lot of baseball because of the Giants in the A's.
- 41:19Speaker 1: Kevin Euclus used to come in with Eric Burns and
- 41:22Speaker 1: do like local talk like in studio, and I remember
- 41:24Speaker 1: just hanging out with Euclus and just I remember just
- 41:26Speaker 1: picking his brain about some of the Red Sox stuff
- 41:28Speaker 1: and they just he actually said something I'll never forget.
- 41:32Speaker 1: He's like the championship teams he played on and the
- 41:37Speaker 1: best teams he played on the first you know, reaction
- 41:41Speaker 1: from any player. The first thing they'd always say was yes.
- 41:45Speaker 1: It's like, hey we need you to bat ninth, Yes,
- 41:48Speaker 1: hey we needed to play left field to it. Yes,
- 41:49Speaker 1: hey you're down today, no problem. He's like the weird
- 41:53Speaker 1: teams were people that pushed back and said no a lot,
- 41:55Speaker 1: and it's like, I think that actually carries over a
- 41:57Speaker 1: lot a lot of different areas of life. Basically, just
- 42:01Speaker 1: be a good teammate. Now, it's not always right, it's
- 42:04Speaker 1: not always gonna work, and sometimes like this is a
- 42:06Speaker 1: terrible idea. But obviously when you had Terry Francona and uh,
- 42:12Speaker 1: what's his name, theo Epstein kind of running the show,
- 42:15Speaker 1: it's it's easy, sy yes, because their moves are working.
- 42:17Speaker 1: But from then to KG and Paul Pierce, to Brady
- 42:20Speaker 1: and the Patriots again to the Celtics a couple of
- 42:24Speaker 1: years ago. Uh yeah, man, I don't know what to say.
- 42:27Speaker 1: It doesn't I think Boston's had no areas had a
- 42:31Speaker 1: better Internet age, not even close. And I mean, look
- 42:35Speaker 1: at the impact. I think Dave Portnoy would be the
- 42:38Speaker 1: first tip Barstool Sports was built on the Patriots. Think
- 42:43Speaker 1: about that. ESPN were they based that area. I mean,
- 42:47Speaker 1: it's it's been good for a lot of people in
- 42:49Speaker 1: this business. Now the Rams season is over, do they
- 42:54Speaker 1: quietly get on the phone and start shopping Puka. There
- 42:57Speaker 1: are so many red flags. I get that he's a
- 43:00Speaker 1: young baller and maybe you're not the most spun up
- 43:02Speaker 1: on social issues and don't deeply think about the bigger
- 43:05Speaker 1: implications of the little Jewish joke. But I mean, tonight
- 43:08Speaker 1: have the self awareness to say no going on a
- 43:10Speaker 1: greedy touchdown dance? Are you a complete idiot? What can
- 43:14Speaker 1: you trust him not to do on camera while his
- 43:16Speaker 1: brother boosts a celebrity car like this can be a
- 43:19Speaker 1: walking liability. Plus, the way he plays is not gonna last.
- 43:23Speaker 1: McVeigh has sped up his destruction of Cooper cup script
- 43:27Speaker 1: on him. What do you think cut ties at his peak?
- 43:33Speaker 1: I will say this on the dance one. I remember
- 43:37Speaker 1: not being on the internet that day and seeing people
- 43:40Speaker 1: ask McVeigh about it after the game. I'm like, what
- 43:42Speaker 1: is going on? Then I had to describe to me.
- 43:45Speaker 1: I saw Craig Carton, who I'm pretty sure is Jewish,
- 43:49Speaker 1: said I've never even seen that before. I never had either.
- 43:52Speaker 1: Once I saw the clip, whoever the guy one of
- 43:55Speaker 1: the streamer guys he did it with. You know, I
- 43:58Speaker 1: feel pretty up to date with just you know, my
- 44:00Speaker 1: forty years of life, derogatory slurs, whatever. I think you've
- 44:06Speaker 1: been around the internet long enough, you've kind of seen
- 44:08Speaker 1: it all, never seen that one. So I take him
- 44:11Speaker 1: at his words, like he had no clue what that was,
- 44:13Speaker 1: because I know where I'm saying. I would have had
- 44:16Speaker 1: no clue what that was. So I think there are
- 44:18Speaker 1: certain things you'd be like, yeah, guys, a complete more on.
- 44:20Speaker 1: And I do think Sean McVay got his back in
- 44:22Speaker 1: the sense that like, I don't think he knew what
- 44:24Speaker 1: that was, and Sean McVay, like myself, was like, honestly,
- 44:27Speaker 1: I don't even know street, Like, what the hell is this? Right,
- 44:30Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about the dance. I'm just talking
- 44:32Speaker 1: about like the people he was with. Again, there are
- 44:35Speaker 1: different demos like who are these people? But that's part
- 44:39Speaker 1: of the world we live in. Like Puka's not gonna
- 44:40Speaker 1: be the first or last guy to hang out with
- 44:42Speaker 1: some of these really famous streamers. I hear what you're saying.
- 44:47Speaker 1: I think you would be open to anything. It's the
- 44:49Speaker 1: NFL I do think it's pretty hard to replace a
- 44:52Speaker 1: guy that just is pretty clearly as dominant a player
- 44:56Speaker 1: as any in the league. Now, am I gonna pay
- 44:58Speaker 1: him justin Jefferson money? Yeah, it's only they truly know.
- 45:05Speaker 1: Like maturity wise kind of got a big head. Is
- 45:07Speaker 1: it just immaturity? Is it just being a little naive?
- 45:12Speaker 1: You know, thrust from BYU to Los Angeles, being the superstar,
- 45:17Speaker 1: A lot of different variables there. But I would be
- 45:20Speaker 1: a little shocked if he's not on the Rams next year.
- 45:23Speaker 1: If you told me that they trade him this offseason,
- 45:25Speaker 1: I would say, there's a lot more going on there
- 45:27Speaker 1: that I had no clue about and we didn't know.
- 45:30Speaker 1: I don't think they would just trade him because of
- 45:31Speaker 1: the Internet dance. I mean, there are guys fucking doing
- 45:35Speaker 1: all sorts of criminal activity that teams don't even hesitate
- 45:39Speaker 1: to bring back. And Pooka is way better than those cats.
- 45:42Speaker 1: So my answer is I say this whole time, we
- 45:46Speaker 1: ain't teaching life lessons in the NFL, Like you gotta
- 45:48Speaker 1: apologize for stuff, but it's kind of fake. No one actually,
- 45:51Speaker 1: like in the league's about making money and winning games.
- 45:54Speaker 1: Everything that else is. I mean, let's be real kind
- 45:56Speaker 1: of for show. I mean it kind of is. There
- 45:59Speaker 1: are two in this league. That's why so many guys
- 46:02Speaker 1: that get in trouble keep their jobs because they can help.
- 46:05Speaker 1: And if you can produce, you get kept around. And
- 46:08Speaker 1: he can produce at the highest of levels. He couldn't
- 46:10Speaker 1: be stopped against Seattle, couldn't be stopped. They're like the
- 46:13Speaker 1: best defense in the league, and he annihilates them. But
- 46:16Speaker 1: he does that to everybody. He's incredible. Typically, if like
- 46:20Speaker 1: the guy was I had to think before Brandon Ayuk
- 46:23Speaker 1: felt the deep end. I was like, I would get
- 46:25Speaker 1: rid of this guy. He's gets in seventy five balls
- 46:27Speaker 1: a year. I would not pay him thirty million dollars
- 46:30Speaker 1: in a run first offense. Sean McVay is a pass
- 46:32Speaker 1: first guy. Kevin O'Connell doubled down, Jordan Addison paid Jefferson.
- 46:37Speaker 1: Jefferson I run a passing offense, so of course I'm
- 46:40Speaker 1: gonna keep those guys. Kind Of crazy looking back that
- 46:43Speaker 1: coach Reid shipped out Tyreek in his passing offense, but
- 46:47Speaker 1: that was more of a financial thing. But I would
- 46:50Speaker 1: doubt that I'd be stunned if Pook Naku was don
- 46:52Speaker 1: on the team next year. Stunned. Is it possible? The
- 47:09Speaker 1: media in the NFL wanted to put Belichick and Brady
- 47:11Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame on the same year to
- 47:12Speaker 1: make more of a spectacle of their inductions, being that
- 47:17Speaker 1: they were together for the vast majority of their career. Uh,
- 47:24Speaker 1: if it's gonna work out that way, great, But I
- 47:28Speaker 1: don't think that's I think it was much more of
- 47:32Speaker 1: the Vandetta slash people trying to get in the older
- 47:36Speaker 1: guys slash the spygay thing. I don't think it had
- 47:39Speaker 1: anything to do with Tom. Is that Tom eligible next year?
- 47:43Speaker 1: He don't even been retired five years? Kind of crazy?
- 47:46Speaker 1: I followed Giselle on Instagram. How did you have a
- 47:50Speaker 1: baby at like forty six years old? Is that even
- 47:52Speaker 1: How's that even possible? I guess she got great genetics
- 47:55Speaker 1: that she put her new baby with her new husband
- 47:59Speaker 1: and his outfit. I thought about I kind of put
- 48:02Speaker 1: myself in Tom shoes, seeing obviously it's like whatever, divorce,
- 48:06Speaker 1: but just she just has a kid in her mid
- 48:08Speaker 1: forties with fucking you know karate kid. It's like, what
- 48:13Speaker 1: the fuck is going on here? That divorce? She I
- 48:19Speaker 1: don't know, it's obvious that Tennessee has been a mess
- 48:22Speaker 1: the last few years and made some big mistakes. One
- 48:26Speaker 1: thing this offseason did show is that they are still
- 48:28Speaker 1: not the Browns or the Jets. They were in on
- 48:30Speaker 1: Harbon Stefanski and seems to have at least some mutual interest.
- 48:34Speaker 1: Robert Sala said this was his destination even before the
- 48:37Speaker 1: end of the season, and Brian Daball picked this team
- 48:41Speaker 1: over other opportunities like Philly. My question is does the
- 48:44Speaker 1: league think higher of cam Ward than the public? We
- 48:47Speaker 1: know the Giants tried hard to trade up to get him,
- 48:50Speaker 1: or as Mike Borgonzi just really thought of highly. I
- 48:54Speaker 1: think it was pretty clear rumors have been they were
- 48:57Speaker 1: willing to spend big money. Have bought John Harbo one
- 49:01Speaker 1: hundred million dollars too. I think Robert sal and Brian
- 49:04Speaker 1: Dayball did not come cheap, so they are willing to
- 49:08Speaker 1: open the check book. It's a great place to live
- 49:11Speaker 1: and you kind of get a clean slate, so I'm
- 49:13Speaker 1: with you, like their job is way less toxic. Robert
- 49:18Speaker 1: Sala would not have taken the Browns job, and he
- 49:21Speaker 1: already took the Jets job and it was a disaster,
- 49:23Speaker 1: So I think he goes little lighter market, little easier
- 49:29Speaker 1: landing spot. I do think the owner's pretty nuts from
- 49:32Speaker 1: what I've heard, but hey, she's paying me a ton
- 49:34Speaker 1: of money. I ideally just deal with Borganzi, who is
- 49:37Speaker 1: very highly thought of. But I'd be stunned if Sla
- 49:41Speaker 1: is not making it some big time coin. I bet
- 49:44Speaker 1: he's really highly paid. Opending on the Belichick story. To
- 49:48Speaker 1: compare this to Baseball, I think the Baseball Hall of
- 49:50Speaker 1: Fame stuff with the voters not voting for guys that
- 49:52Speaker 1: are obvious choices. I think each Hero or Griffy had
- 49:55Speaker 1: a few guys not vote for them. I remember, because
- 49:58Speaker 1: they don't want anyone to be like an unanimous first
- 50:01Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer, Like you can be a first
- 50:02Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer, but unless you're like Babe Ruth
- 50:06Speaker 1: or I don't know, Nolan Ryan or Mickey Mannle, you
- 50:10Speaker 1: can't get unanimous votes these I'm not a huge unwritten
- 50:15Speaker 1: rule guy like who made that up? You can't be unanimous.
- 50:21Speaker 1: Bill can't be a first ballot Hall of Famer like
- 50:23Speaker 1: Ichiro Suzuki has to get ninety six. I remember Randy
- 50:28Speaker 1: Johnson and Pedro Martinez, both of them got like ninety
- 50:31Speaker 1: seven percent of the votes. Can you imagine Randy Johnson
- 50:35Speaker 1: coming up on the Hall of Fame and not checking
- 50:37Speaker 1: his name. It's like, you know what, I bet everyone
- 50:40Speaker 1: on this in this room is going to vote for
- 50:42Speaker 1: Greg Maddox. He should. We gotta keep the sanctity that
- 50:47Speaker 1: Babe Ruth is the only unanimous Hall of Famer. I'm
- 50:50Speaker 1: not checking Greg Maddox's box. It's like you, Sue, Sir,
- 50:54Speaker 1: are a fucking idiot. I just think I think the
- 50:59Speaker 1: Bill thing. I do think the Kansas City guy that
- 51:02Speaker 1: wrote his article one, it wasn't even like what he
- 51:06Speaker 1: said made sense. He just wanted to vote for the
- 51:09Speaker 1: older guys because they would have disappeared off the ballot,
- 51:11Speaker 1: like I said earlier, And I think this isn't that complicated.
- 51:16Speaker 1: Those older guys aren't as deserving as Bill. And if
- 51:21Speaker 1: you've had to wait on the ballot that long, should
- 51:23Speaker 1: you get in. It's hard for me to talk about
- 51:25Speaker 1: guys I didn't watch, you know. I remember Ken Stabler
- 51:29Speaker 1: when I was doing Raider stuff, who was a legendary
- 51:32Speaker 1: quarterback in the seventies, Super Bowl champion quarterback for John
- 51:35Speaker 1: Madden and Nol Davis took him forever to get in,
- 51:39Speaker 1: and then by the time he finally got in, he
- 51:41Speaker 1: was dead. It's you know, I didn't watch him. Besides,
- 51:47Speaker 1: like most people said, like Ken Stablers a Hall of Famer,
- 51:50Speaker 1: and I get certain guys like Eli Manning didn't get in.
- 51:54Speaker 1: I think we get debate. Eli Manning. Is he just
- 51:56Speaker 1: getting in because he got really hot in the two
- 51:58Speaker 1: Super Bowl runs and they were remarkable? But it isn't
- 52:01Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame about your entire career or just
- 52:03Speaker 1: about the two years. I don't know, But to me,
- 52:06Speaker 1: Eli Manning is like a legit debate in the room.
- 52:09Speaker 1: And I got no problem if it takes some years
- 52:11Speaker 1: to get in, right. But like when Bill Belichick or
- 52:14Speaker 1: Tom Brady or Ray Lewis or you know you, Aaron Donald,
- 52:19Speaker 1: you just get up. I'm presenting Aaron Donald, and you
- 52:23Speaker 1: sit down. Stand up. I'm presenting Trent Williams and I
- 52:27Speaker 1: sit down. I'm presenting Bill Belichick and I sit down,
- 52:31Speaker 1: and you just vote for those players, just like I
- 52:34Speaker 1: get up. I'm presenting Greg Maddox, I'm presenting Randy Johnson.
- 52:39Speaker 1: I'm presenting the Basketball Hall of Fame's kind of convoluted
- 52:43Speaker 1: includes college but baseball in football, It's like it's pretty clear.
- 52:48Speaker 1: Like now the steroid thing makes a little complicated, I guess,
- 52:53Speaker 1: but who knows who was on it? Like I would
- 52:55Speaker 1: vote the steroid guys. In showed my wife the Fugazi
- 53:01Speaker 1: Friday clip with the newborn clothes and we were both laughing.
- 53:05Speaker 1: We go through a lot of clothes, I'll tell you
- 53:07Speaker 1: that much. I'm a huge believer. I've said this before
- 53:10Speaker 1: I even knew what it was like to have a kid.
- 53:11Speaker 1: Let's just use thousand wraps, diaper towelsand wraps, ruins them,
- 53:16Speaker 1: no big deal. But to do the clothes, the onesies
- 53:19Speaker 1: which he's gonna ruin, and then do a towel over that,
- 53:22Speaker 1: which sometimes the diaper's not on perfectly gets ruined as well.
- 53:25Speaker 1: You're just ruining a lot of stuff and the diaper
- 53:29Speaker 1: which I had a buddy that said he has a
- 53:31Speaker 1: young kid too, said he counted he went through nineteen diapers.
- 53:36Speaker 1: I think if you did it like twelve midnight to
- 53:38Speaker 1: twelve midnight the following day, so you basically just start
- 53:40Speaker 1: counting the first bathroom break at one, two, three in
- 53:43Speaker 1: the morning or whatever, and just go through the following day.
- 53:47Speaker 1: I think the number would probably be in the high teens,
- 53:49Speaker 1: low twenties. Crazy, how many diapers you go through. I
- 53:52Speaker 1: didn't even realize. She mentioned something yesterday like what kind
- 53:55Speaker 1: of diapers you think are working the best? I just
- 53:57Speaker 1: assume like Pampers. Huggy said, we don't use those. What
- 54:00Speaker 1: do you mean just the normal diapers that you get
- 54:02Speaker 1: it like the store. It's like, no, they just have
- 54:04Speaker 1: toxins or whatever. It's like, we get these diapers and
- 54:09Speaker 1: like we have three different kinds because they don't have
- 54:11Speaker 1: I don't know whatever on them. I had no clue.
- 54:15Speaker 1: I mean we got like seven different styles of diapers,
- 54:17Speaker 1: I mean not styles, they all kind of look the same,
- 54:19Speaker 1: but different brands. Then this baby business, it's just there
- 54:23Speaker 1: are people wherever you live, living in the biggest houses,
- 54:28Speaker 1: and you know they have second, third, and fourth homes
- 54:31Speaker 1: that are in the baby. The baby business that they are.
- 54:34Speaker 1: They're like the Federal Reserve. They are just printing coin.
- 54:37Speaker 1: Just cash is flaunt you change to change, to change
- 54:40Speaker 1: your chang I mean it's I'd argue it's on a
- 54:45Speaker 1: shortlist of best businesses to be in. It couldn't be
- 54:49Speaker 1: much better. I mean, everything costs expensive. You need a
- 54:54Speaker 1: ton of it, especially the stuff that's replaced. It's just
- 54:56Speaker 1: you go through it like this and it's like, Okay,
- 54:59Speaker 1: my kid ages out. The next group of people have
- 55:01Speaker 1: young kids. Just you go to these baby You know,
- 55:04Speaker 1: the baby section in the hospitals is baby after baby
- 55:06Speaker 1: after baby after baby, day after day after day after day. God,
- 55:11Speaker 1: I got in the wrong profession. Is an overreactually say,
- 55:14Speaker 1: the bills very possibly just put the nail in the
- 55:16Speaker 1: coffin of josh career with brady promotion. In my opinion,
- 55:19Speaker 1: I think Joe brady offense is uninspired, say the least,
- 55:22Speaker 1: But Josh puts the needle needed lipstick on the pig
- 55:26Speaker 1: and wills them to the playoffs. I understand the coaching
- 55:28Speaker 1: market wasn't as good as years past, but how is
- 55:31Speaker 1: this the right move? Like I said earlier, I was impressed.
- 55:34Speaker 1: I was impressed. I thought it was based on the
- 55:38Speaker 1: press conference and based on his understanding of McDermott, Like
- 55:42Speaker 1: I'm gonna reserve judgment to say it's not gonna work now.
- 55:47Speaker 1: He's to me leadership and handling the players pretty clearly.
- 55:50Speaker 1: He's got that. But like you said, scheme. You know,
- 55:53Speaker 1: to be a great offensive head coach, if you're not
- 55:56Speaker 1: gonna be like Sirianni, you gotta be dynamic play caller,
- 56:01Speaker 1: right McVeigh Kyle the floor, I mean, look at the floor.
- 56:06Speaker 1: I mean he's you talk shit about him Packer fans,
- 56:08Speaker 1: but I saw Jordan Love go down. Who Let's face it,
- 56:11Speaker 1: Jordan Loves a good player. I mean he's not. Ideally,
- 56:13Speaker 1: He's not making fifty million dollars a year. To me,
- 56:15Speaker 1: in a normal world where not everyone makes the same,
- 56:19Speaker 1: like we're guys like Tua and Kyler also get huge money.
- 56:22Speaker 1: Jordan Love's like twenty eight million dollar quarterback. If the
- 56:24Speaker 1: top guy's making fifty five sixty, Jordan Love's making half that.
- 56:28Speaker 1: He's a good player. You can go to the playoffs
- 56:30Speaker 1: with him, but like he needs a lot of help
- 56:31Speaker 1: around him. He disappears, starts winning with Malik Willis. I mean,
- 56:34Speaker 1: let's face it, Milik Willis came in at different times
- 56:36Speaker 1: and like looks fantastic, Like Lafour gets credit for that.
- 56:41Speaker 1: So to me, at Brady can just dominate as a
- 56:43Speaker 1: play caller and they can improve the roster, they should
- 56:47Speaker 1: be pretty good. I mean they're gonna be good if
- 56:51Speaker 1: Josh Allen's healthy. He's on crutches. Now. I actually had
- 56:56Speaker 1: that information like two weeks ago from a little inside source,
- 56:59Speaker 1: but I was sworn secrecy. The Josh is gonna need
- 57:02Speaker 1: off season surgery. Nothing, nothing serious, just a little broken
- 57:05Speaker 1: bone in his foot. He'd been playing with for a while.
- 57:08Speaker 1: He tough SLB man. You know, there's people always think
- 57:11Speaker 1: California like San Francisco, Los Angeles. There's three California's. There's
- 57:15Speaker 1: San Francisco, Los Angeles, and then there's the Central Valley.
- 57:18Speaker 1: The people in the Central Valley, the farming community, I
- 57:22Speaker 1: would say, don't have that much in common with like
- 57:24Speaker 1: Hollywood and like some of the districts in San Francisco.
- 57:29Speaker 1: So California gets painted with like one brush. It's where
- 57:34Speaker 1: Josh Allen comes from. Is a little different than like
- 57:37Speaker 1: Manhattan Beach, you know, or Berkeley, California. So we got
- 57:41Speaker 1: California's a big state and uh, tough people in the valley.
- 57:46Speaker 1: It's it gets hot as shit, it's warm. I lived
- 57:51Speaker 1: in Fresnow it could be one ten. A lot of
- 57:53Speaker 1: tough farmers. There's a lot of blue collar people, you know,
- 57:56Speaker 1: the blue collar nature of that area in California hasn't
- 58:01Speaker 1: changed as much as it hasn't like San Franco in LA,
- 58:03Speaker 1: because you can't just afford to live in those areas
- 58:06Speaker 1: just working normal people jobs. Question for the bag, what's
- 58:10Speaker 1: really stopping teams from just promoting their OC and DC
- 58:13Speaker 1: and moving on from their head coach when let's be real,
- 58:18Speaker 1: the success of non play caller head coaches was heavily
- 58:21Speaker 1: driven by the coordinator. The Lions, Ravens, and Eagles are
- 58:23Speaker 1: good examples. Harbab benefited from McDonald. Lamar got his ten
- 58:27Speaker 1: uere extended. McDonald walks while the head coach stays, and
- 58:30Speaker 1: then he gets let go. The Eagles move on from
- 58:32Speaker 1: Stychen it more and now nobody wants to touch the
- 58:34Speaker 1: OC position. I think it's easier said than done. Like
- 58:37Speaker 1: what are you supposed to do? When Mike McDonald became
- 58:40Speaker 1: the head coach of the Seattle Seahawks, they had just
- 58:44Speaker 1: been the number one seed in the AFC Championship. Now,
- 58:48Speaker 1: if they could do it all over again, I recorded
- 58:50Speaker 1: with Stucky about it today. Of course they would have
- 58:53Speaker 1: done it. Knowing what they know now, they would have
- 58:54Speaker 1: fired John Harbaugh, elevated Mike McDonald. That would have been
- 58:58Speaker 1: pretty insane at the time, So it's always easier to
- 59:01Speaker 1: look back of like, God, what did I do what?
- 59:07Speaker 1: At the time, it wasn't that crazy of a move.
- 59:10Speaker 1: And sometimes like that person, also Mike went to a
- 59:15Speaker 1: great spot. Like if Mike McDonald's the Jets coach or
- 59:18Speaker 1: the Browns coach, probably doesn't go as well. Like, props
- 59:20Speaker 1: to Mike for understanding, Like go to John Schneider, great infrastructure,
- 59:25Speaker 1: They landed the quarterback like it's just a well run operation.
- 59:30Speaker 1: But I just think that we're gonna hire Kellen Moore
- 59:34Speaker 1: Shane Siken, Like listen, Shane Siken feels like a smart guy.
- 59:37Speaker 1: Philip Rivers likes him, but what has he done now
- 59:43Speaker 1: he can call the plays? Because you dabbled the stock market,
- 59:47Speaker 1: are you dabbling in sports futures? What's your opinion on it?
- 59:51Speaker 1: I do some NFL futures every year. This year I
- 59:55Speaker 1: hit one of the biggest parlays I've ever hit, one
- 59:57Speaker 1: hundred dollars on the Division Champs Old Pittsburgh. I mean
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: I got pretty lucky, right, I mean, thank God for
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: the kicker from Arizona, Seattle, Pittsburgh, New England and the
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: Denver Broncos one hundred dollars to win seventy three hundred.
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: I might have made a couple bets, so I walked
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: away with about five K. But I like doing that.
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: I've done future bets on who's gonna win the national
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: championship in college football. I'll probably do one here in
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: the next couple weeks in college basketball. Just it's just
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: fun to have a couple hundred dollars bets that are
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: like twenty thirty to one. I like having the juice.
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: Gives me a reason to watch, especially like something like
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: college basketball, or maybe like what are you to do?
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: Put minus one hundred minus one ten on the Dodgers
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: to win the World Series. Usually like I'll throw I'll
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: take like five hundred bucks and put two fifty each
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: on two teams in the NHL, just to kind of
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: pay attention. I just get my juice's flown. I do
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: it in golf, but I usually bet that week. So
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: when you say futures, do you mean like over the
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: of the season. I don't have the patients to do
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: much like I'll do a couple I don't have like
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: twenty bets on futures. That's not really my thing, partly
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: because I'm more of like a immediate gratification guy. So
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: I like betting on games or betting like you know,
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: like when I make my golf bets, I bet on
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: that tournament on a Wednesday, the tournament starts on Thursday.
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: That I did a Super Bowl bet this year, uh,
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: which I cashed out in December. I might do a
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: couple more of those next year, but that's probably the
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: extent of my doing it. Seahawks fan, with the Super
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: Bowl looming, Clint Kubiak is reported to be interested in
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: taking the Raider jump after Liam Cohen, Shane psych and
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: Mike McDonald all leaving their old teams and regretting it
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: at all. Leaving their old teams. Oh, the old teams
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: regretting it? At what point are we? I think the
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: Shane Siching things a little overblown, Like let's not act
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: like he's John McVay or Andy Reid like it's good coach,
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: seems like a good guy, but I don't know, let's
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: closer to Mike McDaniel than he is some superstar. To
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: put Shane Syke in right there with Liam Cohen just
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: was the two seat or I guess the three seat,
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: but his team was he turned the Jags, or at
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: thirteen wins with the Jacks, Mike McDonald's in the Super Bowl.
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: So I can't. I can't compare Shane to those guys.
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: But I hear what you mean. Not trying to shit
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: on your point, but at what point are we gonna
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: see teams pay head coaching money to coordinators on the
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: opposite side of the ball as or head coach. Obviously
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: McDonald is the boss. Pay him twenty million works for me,
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: But why can't we pay Clint fifteen to eighteen million
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: to get him to stay? I imagine the Eagles, the Bucks,
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: and the Ravens all regret this. Well one, let's just
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: say you do that, Mike McDonald, who's probably gonna get
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: a contract extension maybe this offseason. You then have to
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: give him more money than your quarterback or I mean
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: your coordinator, because remember the one year Jason Garrett was
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: making more than Wade Phillips. That was like fifteen years ago,
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: but it was like Jason Garrett might become the head
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: coach of the Miami Dolphins. So Jerry mats the Miami
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: Dolphins salary. Turns out it was more than his own
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: head coaches. You can't do that. You just then why
- 1:03:10Speaker 1: don't you just make him the head coach, which you
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: wouldn't do with Mike McDonald. But is it part of
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: like paying Mike McDonald of that money is like him
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: to build a staff. It's like, Okay, Kubiak goes to
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: the Raiders because yeah, you can pay him whatever you want.
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: Shouldn't you have the capability of, like, Okay, who's the
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: next Kubiak? There are a million Shanahan mcveigh's and Kevin
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: O'Connell's all over the league, and lafleor's go hire one
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: of their minions to do that same thing. The system's
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: already built in. Do you have a guy on staff
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: one of Kubiak's guys? Elevate him? That's part of the
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: job of the head coach. And if you say well,
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: what if it entices him to say well, because he
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: can be the head coach, Like being a head coach
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: is better than being the assistant. If you are an
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: ambitious person that wants to at the head of the table,
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: so you could pay him a lot of money. But
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: if my ambition is to take the job that I
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: think is gonna be pretty good, Like the Raiders kind
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: of interesting job if you believe in Fernando Mendoza, if
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: you just think it could be Jared Goff with a
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: little more mobility, like that's a pretty intriguing prospect. I've
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: seen Jared Goff win a lot of games, made Sean
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: McVeagh and Dan Campbell a lot of money. So if
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: I'm kobiaking go it's kind of his comp I'm fucking in.
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: It's like it's on. Then the GM to build up
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: this team with trade Max, Let's start this thing over.
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: Let's build this up or keep Maxim's build around them.
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: But you got options, Like to me, that Raiders a
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: pretty interesting job when you factor in Mendoza, Cardinals. I
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: I would take a pay cut to not take that job,
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So, yeah, I hear what
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: you're saying. Teams do do that pay guys a lot
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: of money. But if a guy wants to become a
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: head coach, a guy wants to become a head coach,
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: the quest for the OC for the Eagles will end on.
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: This has become embarrassing. This is a Super Bowl caliber
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: squad all around. I can't help but believe the fans
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: treatment of Kevin Patola has led us to not landing
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: the top options including Harball. Your opinion, am I am
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: I missing a harrball Like John Harbaugh, you weren't gonna
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: hire I mean, Sirianni wasn't gonna get fired, at least
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: to my knowledge. I would say, I think that's being
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: a little overblown. Did some who do you think like
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: six forty year olds egged them? If that's the case,
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: then yeah, I'd be like, this place is whack job.
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: Who do you think egged Kevin Patola? My guess would
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: be some sixteen seventy year old kids if you put
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: John Middlecoff. I'm not going third person. I'm just using
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: myself as an example. In Kevin Patola's neighborhood at fifteen,
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: sixteen years old, with my buddies, we agged random people
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: we didn't know. We t peed everybody and anybody, and listen,
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: I'm not proud. We agged a decent amount of people,
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: and I think my house got egged. We egged people.
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: I don't know if that still happens as much with
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: ring cameras and cameras. Even though I saw on my
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: next door people put these kids that live right like
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: kind of down the street in this other could de
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: sac have these cool ass electric bikes. I always see
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: them when I'm walking the dog riding around. They're probably,
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: I don't know, junior high and they're just mobbing around.
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: They doorbell ditch people throughout the neighborhood and people post
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: on next door. It's clearly them. Anyone know these kids.
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I know their kids are right there.
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: I mean I see them every day riding around in
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: the afternoon. And my brother was telling me in his
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: like little community it happens all the time, and the
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: kids don't care. Like all these cameras now, boys are
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: ring cameras. When we used to doorbell ditch people or
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: do whatever, you know, mess with somebody, there were not
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: cameras didn't exist twenty five years ago like they do now.
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: There's probably not a home in most neighborhoods that don't
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: have some sort of cameras on the outside. Definitely most
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: people have the ring doorbell or some version of that.
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: And I just think that to act like people egging
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: your house is indicative of like the gig. It's like guarantee,
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: fifteen sixte year old boys, we do dumb shit I
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: did the most moronic stuff known to man. If my
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: dad knew eight ten percent of the stuff I did,
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: he might have had a heart attack. I mean this.
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: I just think that stuff's overblown now as it grows
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: the narrative. I think the bigger issue is that you
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: get fired if it goes down. And this is a
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: job that is clearly pretty fickle. With the quarterback. You know,
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: is he good? Is he bad? Like when he's bad,
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: it looks really bad that there's no disputing. Like when
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: he's bad, like there's let's just go Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson,
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, some of these guys, it's like, yeah, they're bad.
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: It's like okay, but they have so much good. Even
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: Herbert during this he's like, you see the guy that
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: guy plays? You watch hurts this year. It's like, what
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: is going on? Here's the other thing. What about the
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: people inside the league? They're like, he won't run anymore,
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: he won't what you call run plays. It's like, well,
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: that's one of his best attributes. He won't want to
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: do it because he wants another contract and he doesn't
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: want to get hurt. Well, it's like, how what plays
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: I coach? Him. It's like, well he wants to throw
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: in the pocket. He's like, well, that's not really what
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: he does. Well, so I think it's much more football,
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: and I take this job. It could derail my career,
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: right because if I'm in the mix for offensive coordinator jobs,
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: if I get the right one, I'm a year or two
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: away from being a head coach. But this job Brian Johnson,
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: I think I mentioned this the other day. I googled him.
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: He's not even an offensive coordinator. He's just a you know,
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: a position coach, pass game coordinator or something with the
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: Commanders Patula. You think Patula's gone plays next year. No
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: chance he'd be lucky to get a quarterback job. So
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: the stink the firing puts on you, the risks pretty high, man.
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: So I think it's much more football than like three
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: dudes that live down the street. It is country club
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: neighborhood hood, you know, peppered them with fucking eggs, right
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: and teepee like it's welcome to society with young boys
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: running around the streets. This is what we do. We
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: ag yea which whoever developed that. It's pretty extreme, like
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: throwing eggs at someone's house. What would I do when
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: my son is of age and someone in retaliation he
- 1:09:35Speaker 1: aged someone want if he did that, I'd be on
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: his ass, But what am I'd be a hypocritis, Like
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: I've done it. Someone eggs my house, Like what can
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: you do? Right? You're not you're gonna shoot them, but
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: you're not gonna just go out there and clean it
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: with a smile on your face. Like if you catch
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: them red handed, what's the retaliation move? That's my question.
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: It's kind of your no man's land, right. It's not
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: like that bad where you can really do anything, but
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: you definitely want to do something. But what do you do?
- 1:10:02Speaker 1: Just get their parents number? In Colin? What are the
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: parents gonna do? Especially in this day and age, Like, Billy,
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: you gotta be you gotta make smarter decisions. My dad
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: would have like taken me in the backyard and thrown
- 1:10:14Speaker 1: eggs at me. Those days are done the general parenting world, James,
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: that's not a good idea. Say sorry to mister middlecough
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: my dad. If I would have ever been caught egging
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: people in my neighborhood, I might not even be here
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: right now. I might not even be here. These kids
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: in Philadelphia are probably laughing all the way with their parents.
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: That's the other thing. It's like you find out like
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: their parents encouraged it. Probably a pretty big red flag.
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: The volume