Latest / Best of LinkedIn: Digital Transformation & Tech / Best of LinkedIn: Digital Products & Services CW 10/ 11
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This episode is provided by Thomas Allgaier and Frennus, based on the most relevant LinkedIn posts about digital products and services in calendar weeks ten and eleven.
- 0:09Speaker 1: Frenness is a B-to-B market research company helping enterprises gain the market customer and competitive insights needed to drive customer centric and cost efficient product development.
- 0:19Speaker 0: Right, so welcome to our deep dive.
- 0:21Speaker 0: Today we're digging into the top digital products and services trends that have been popping up all over LinkedIn for the past two weeks.
- 0:28Speaker 1: Yeah And For you listening whether your in the middle of sprint planning or trying to rework your whole product org The mission here is really about practical adoption.
- 0:37Speaker 0: Exactly I mean the conversation has decisively shifted.
- 0:40Speaker 0: We are moving way.
- 0:41Speaker 0: pass that initial AI experimentation height.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Oh one hundred percent.
- 0:45Speaker 1: yeah The magic trick phase is over right?
- 0:48Speaker 1: operating discipline now.
- 0:50Speaker 1: Like, how is AI actually rewiring daily workflows?
- 0:54Speaker 1: And honestly even the definition of a product manager...
- 0:57Speaker 0: It's changing everything!
- 0:58Speaker 1: ...it really is.
- 0:59Speaker 1: I saw this great example from Nico Noel that just nailed this.
- 1:02Speaker 1: he used an AI agent Claude Code to actually ship changes to a landing page.
- 1:09Speaker 0: Okay so actually writing in code Yeah
- 1:11Speaker 1: but he didn't stop there or you know hand it off to a dev.
- 1:14Speaker 1: He stayed right in the interface used productanalyst.ai and immediately wired up a Slack alert for funnel monitoring.
- 1:22Speaker 1: He did the coding, tracking or automated reporting all in like ten minutes.
- 1:26Speaker 0: Ten minutes?
- 1:27Speaker 0: I mean that kind of turnaround is just staggering.
- 1:29Speaker 0: but you know it's also massive trap.
- 1:32Speaker 1: How so?
- 1:32Speaker 1: Well,
- 1:33Speaker 0: Akash Gupta broke this down brilliantly.
- 1:35Speaker 0: When building becomes that frictionless the danger of unguided-building just skyrockets He pointed out.
- 1:41Speaker 0: we're seeing two distinct types of PMs emerge right now.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Okay what are they?
- 1:46Speaker 0: So the first group he calls The Builders.
- 1:48Speaker 0: These are ones who spin up a quick prototype show it off and get green light.
- 1:52Speaker 0: because you know working software always looks better than slide deck.
- 1:55Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:55Speaker 1: but their moving fast probably aren't checking underlying metrics
- 1:59Speaker 0: Exactly!
- 1:59Speaker 0: They don't check metrics or crucially, API costs.
- 2:04Speaker 0: Generative AI isn't a flat rate server cost.
- 2:06Speaker 0: you're paying compute per token.
- 2:08Speaker 0: Oh, right.
- 2:09Speaker 0: So every unoptimized search just drains the budget.
- 2:13Speaker 0: but then Gupta says that second group is The Evaluators.
- 2:16Speaker 1: I'm guessing they operate a bit differently Completely
- 2:19Speaker 0: different and evaluator will prototype something like fifty times And deliberately kill eighty percent of those iterations.
- 2:26Speaker 1: Ah so they filter it.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Yeah
- 2:27Speaker 0: gupta calls having taste at speed It's ability to refine through rapid iteration.
- 2:33Speaker 1: That makes total sense.
- 2:34Speaker 1: But yeah i have push back here.
- 2:36Speaker 1: Go for It's just there.
- 2:37Speaker 1: is this really seductive trend right now called vibe coding, where a PM can basically generate an app in the afternoon.
- 2:44Speaker 0: Oh yeah!
- 2:45Speaker 0: Vibecoding is everywhere
- 2:46Speaker 1: Right.
- 2:46Speaker 1: So isn't that necessary first step for raptid discovery?
- 2:49Speaker 1: I mean why shouldn't a PM own the whole stack if AI allows it?
- 2:54Speaker 1: Its like giving everyone on team a nail gun when they only know how to use a hammer.
- 2:58Speaker 0: Ok thats great analogy.
- 2:59Speaker 1: Sure you build your house way faster but Without structural knowledge, the whole thing might just collapse in a breeze.
- 3:06Speaker 1: But still...the speed!
- 3:08Speaker 0: The Speed is exactly why Tanya Maldonado and Marlon Davis were raising massive red flags about this
- 3:14Speaker 1: Really?
- 3:15Speaker 1: What did they say?
- 3:16Speaker 0: They pointed out that PMs absolutely should not be replacing developers on enterprise production grade systems.
- 3:23Speaker 0: Scalability and security are not, you know side quests.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Yeah
- 3:27Speaker 0: if your building fifty times faster with your nail gun You can ship disasters fifty time's faster Which means launch readiness has to become the new bottleneck.
- 3:35Speaker 1: Launch Readiness Okay.
- 3:37Speaker 1: so how do we actually manage without losing speed?
- 3:40Speaker 1: Because Shardle Nyak actually shared a twenty-three item AI product launch checklist on this.
- 3:46Speaker 0: Twenty three items?
- 3:47Speaker 0: That's rigorous!
- 3:48Speaker 1: Very, and he highlighted risks that traditional saws just doesn't face like prompt injection defenses.
- 3:54Speaker 1: Oh,
- 3:54Speaker 0: prompt injection is terrifying.
- 3:56Speaker 0: users can just trick the system into ignoring its own security guardrails
- 4:00Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 4:01Speaker 1: And he also mandates strict budget alerts, like setting a warning at eighty percent of budget but literally killing the feature if it hits two hundred percent.
- 4:10Speaker 0: Because those runaway API costs we mentioned
- 4:12Speaker 1: right?
- 4:12Speaker 1: He says gradual rollouts are absolute necessities.
- 4:14Speaker 1: now you go five percent to twenty-five to fifty to one hundred launching to a hundred percent on day One is just asking to lose user trust.
- 4:23Speaker 0: one hundred percent agree And it's a systemic risk too.
- 4:26Speaker 0: Dr Bart Jaworski had this fascinating advice about setting up.
- 4:34Speaker 0: Its only job is strictly to rate and evaluate the answers of the main AI product.
- 4:39Speaker 1: Oh, wow!
- 4:39Speaker 1: So it's an AI babysitting your
- 4:41Speaker 1: A.I.,
- 4:41Speaker 1: to block bad outputs?
- 4:42Speaker 0: Exactly...and it ties right into what Patricia Bertini was saying about compliance
- 4:46Speaker 1: Like The AI Act in GDPR.
- 4:48Speaker 1: Yes,
- 4:48Speaker 0: Ann Diara She pointed out that Compliance Is Shifting Entirely Upstream.
- 4:52Speaker 0: You cannot wait until the end To check these things anymore.
- 4:55Speaker 0: you don't want Find Out Your Non-compliant Via Massive Fine Or An Audit.
- 4:59Speaker 1: Okay But Wait If We Are Slowing Down To Check a twenty-three item list, and running secondary LLM evaluations.
- 5:08Speaker 1: Doesn't that completely neutralize the incredible speed AI gave us in first place?
- 5:12Speaker 1: It
- 5:13Speaker 0: feels like it right!
- 5:14Speaker 0: Yeah
- 5:14Speaker 1: I mean, how do we balance safety with the intense pressure from leadership to ship?
- 5:19Speaker 0: Well.
- 5:20Speaker 0: The hard truth is you can't balance it without changing the underlying structure of the organization.
- 5:25Speaker 0: dreaming You can just add AI to a broken system and expect it to work.
- 5:29Speaker 0: You have to fix the product operating
- 5:32Speaker 1: model POM.
- 5:33Speaker 1: people talk about that all the time but It's usually so abstract
- 5:36Speaker 0: It is, but Ralph Joachim brought some brutal reality to it with the time-poverty paradox.
- 5:41Speaker 0: Oh
- 5:42Speaker 1: I saw those stats.
- 5:42Speaker 1: they were wild!
- 5:43Speaker 0: Yeah, ninety two percent of product leaders own revenue outcomes But they spend sixty six percent of their week on manual coordination work
- 5:51Speaker 1: Which leaves them zero time for actual strategic analysis.
- 5:54Speaker 0: Exactly
- 5:55Speaker 1: Zero Time.
- 5:55Speaker 0: That's insane.
- 5:56Speaker 0: its like being hired as a ships navigator... ...but you're forced to spent ninety percent your time below deck shoveling coal into engine.
- 6:03Speaker 0: How are ya supposed steer?
- 6:04Speaker 0: You aren't!
- 6:05Speaker 0: And that's why Catherine Shepard King argues a real product operating model isn't just renaming your project managers.
- 6:12Speaker 1: Or copying Spotify's squad template from ten years ago?
- 6:15Speaker 0: Right, A Real POM is about the mechanics of how work actually gets funded and decisions are made.
- 6:22Speaker 1: How do we fix those mechanics?
- 6:24Speaker 0: Igor Voth shared a really battle-tested five layer model that I
- 6:28Speaker 1: loved.
- 6:28Speaker 1: Okay, bring it down for me!
- 6:29Speaker 0: It goes company priority which leads to root cause then to strategic bet...down to opportunities and finally experiments.
- 6:38Speaker 1: So every experiment has to tie all the way back up to a company priority?
- 6:42Speaker 0: Exactly if doesn't trace back to a priority you are just shipping features.
- 6:46Speaker 0: You aren't driving outcomes.
- 6:47Speaker 0: Ok.
- 6:48Speaker 1: so If we fix the operating model and we actually give our leaders the time to navigate from the deck of a ship, they still need to be looking at the right maps.
- 6:56Speaker 1: Right?
- 6:56Speaker 0: Absolutely!
- 6:57Speaker 0: Which leads us into the evolution of product intelligence.
- 7:00Speaker 1: Because Mauricio Cardin has pointed out that this problem isn't lack-of-beta
- 7:06Speaker 0: Oh...we have too much data.
- 7:07Speaker 1: Exactly The problem is interpretation.
- 7:10Speaker 1: He says AI shouldn't just use to build chat features.
- 7:14Speaker 1: It should an intelligence layer That connects fragmented telemetry And user feedback
- 7:19Speaker 0: to spot the patterns that humans just miss.
- 7:21Speaker 1: Yes, and Nigs or Voodies highlighted how Netflix does this by treating data as a product
- 7:26Speaker 0: meaning it has clear ownership in life cycle management.
- 7:29Speaker 1: right but there's a massive warning sign here from boost Raku skooner about optimizing for the wrong metrics.
- 7:36Speaker 0: oh this is such a common trap.
- 7:37Speaker 0: what were her examples?
- 7:38Speaker 1: so one was a mahjong app.
- 7:40Speaker 1: they made the game easier to boost retention And sure it did temporarily, but it completely killed the challenge of game which was actual value.
- 7:47Speaker 1: Oh!
- 7:48Speaker 0: So they alienated their core users?
- 7:50Speaker 1: Completely.
- 7:51Speaker 1: and her other example is a puzzle game called Screwdom.
- 7:53Speaker 1: They basically forced monetization and just lost user immediately.
- 7:57Speaker 1: Optimizing dashboard metric without understanding user values destroys product.
- 8:02Speaker 0: It really does.
- 8:03Speaker 0: But
- 8:03Speaker 1: let's be real for second.
- 8:04Speaker 1: If your PM and retention metrics revenue graphs are pointing up into right aren't we doing our jobs?
- 8:11Speaker 0: It looks like it on paper.
- 8:12Speaker 0: Right,
- 8:13Speaker 1: so how does a PM justify ignoring a green dashboard to tell the CFO trust me?
- 8:19Speaker 1: The users actually hate it.
- 8:21Speaker 1: Well
- 8:21Speaker 0: that right there is the definition of true product discipline...it means looking beyond that immediate dopamine hit of vanity metric.
- 8:29Speaker 0: If you spike revenue this month but churn triples next month..the product is dying.
- 8:34Speaker 1: Yeah!
- 8:35Speaker 1: That makes sense.
- 8:35Speaker 1: its about sustainable outcomes
- 8:37Speaker 0: Exactly.
- 8:39Speaker 0: Well, as we wrap up the steep dive We want to leave you with a final thought inspired by Pavel Fabrikantov.
- 8:43Speaker 0: Oh
- 8:44Speaker 1: I love his take on this.
- 8:45Speaker 0: Yeah he reminded us that buying AI tools and writing strategy docs is The easy part.
- 8:50Speaker 0: anybody can do That.
- 8:51Speaker 0: but true competitive advantage comes from Process knowledge
- 8:55Speaker 1: process.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Knowledge yes
- 8:57Speaker 0: that tacit know-how That only accumulates when a team ships fails and adjusts together over time.
- 9:03Speaker 0: So ask yourself are you just lawyering your roadmap with new tools or?
- 9:06Speaker 0: Are you actually engineering the deep process knowledge, but your competitors simply can't copy?
- 9:12Speaker 1: that is The real question to ask your team this week.
- 9:14Speaker 1: it really
- 9:14Speaker 0: does
- 9:15Speaker 1: well.
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