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Know the Enemy: Purdue · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  And welcome back to the Boundary Corner Podcast with my partners
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  this wonderful winning Tuesday? I tell you, recording the pod
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  after a win is a whole lot more fun, man.
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  Everything's more fun waking up, going to work.
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  Seeing your kids, seeing your wife after a win, so much
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  better. Just got a whole better attitude
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  towards the world. It feels good to watch a
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  competent football team, that's for sure.
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  It does feel good to watch a confident football team, and
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  that was a good thing on Saturday night as the Hokies win
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  3619, excuse me, 3617 over ODU. We got a lot to talk about.
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  We are going to unlock that game in a new segment this year to
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  the podcast. But before we jump on that and
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  then before we actually get to know the enemy Purdue, we're
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  going to just have a couple talk about a couple news and notes
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  that have broken over the last week since we last talked.
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  And it came out Friday, but they did not do the Friday end of day
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  dump. They actually did it early in
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  the morning. The expansion vote for the ACC
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  finally passed. Stanford, SMU and Cal are now
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  finally members. Just real quick, Shelton, what's
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  your initial take on this? Yeah, I mean obviously they had
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  to get one of the votes to flip in order to make this move
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  happen. That turned out to be in C State
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  who kind of bucked with away from UNC and making that
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  decision. You know it's a it's an
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  interesting move. Obviously you add, you know, two
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  schools with good Olympic sports in in Callan, Stanford and then
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  I'll see SMU I think has a burching program, lots of big
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  money in that program with their boosters overall.
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  I don't know. If it does a time for the
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  league. We'll see how it plays out.
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  I think it's worth like a, you know, kind of a Plan C move
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  because they just, you know, they didn't really have the off
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  season they wanted to relative to the Big 12 and the SEC.
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  So yeah, I I mean, I don't know what to make of it really.
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  I think it's just it's just kind of the way the summer's been
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  gone. I guess they wanted to just, you
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  know, add someone and bring some type of juice to the league.
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  But. But yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't a
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  thing where I'm like, yeah, this is super exciting.
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  It just kind of, it's kind of is what it is.
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  Couple of different things. I guess #1, if you're going to
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  grab them, why not grab, why not just go ahead and grab, you
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  know, Oregon State and think Washington State, you're already
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  grabbing other two, grab them, let them have somewhere to go
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  to. Oregon states actually ranked
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  right now. They got DJU out there.
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  Hey, we need all the eyes we can on the ACC right now if that's
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  what we're going to do. I thought it was a little bit.
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  I don't know what how like how they're going to go and what
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  they're going to do as far as like the SMU thing.
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  They're saying they're going to use, I guess, their campus or
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  places that they have there as a meeting ground for some of the
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  sports and things like that. I guess that makes sense why
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  they would bring them in. But still kind of, you know,
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  don't know much about what we're doing.
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  But hey, it looks like they're not getting paid for a while.
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  So if we can just make money off them being here for a little
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  bit, shoot, let's do it. Why not?
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  We we rounded up all the Olympic sports and going to Jerry World
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  and. Why not?
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  That seems like what the plan is.
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  But I mean to me from a big picture standpoint for the ACC,
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  this is a tread water move. This is a we had to do something
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  and like Sheldon said, this was a number C on the the choices
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  there. You know, we talked about it a
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  lot like this is probably 2 years late.
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  On making a move for expansion, they probably should have
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  circled the wagons when Texas and Oklahoma jumped ships that
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  they started, they should have started having some
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  conversations. Then they waited.
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  Then you lose USC&UCLA to the big and then you know you still
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  didn't make a move after that. So this is what happens when you
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  drag your feet. You end up kind of getting the
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  the the scraps if you will. They're they're pretty solid
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  scraps in terms of. You know what they bring to the
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  table for sports that aren't football, especially looking at
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  the the West Coast teams. But all this does is really kind
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  of bring us back even with the Big 12 in terms of financials.
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  And I don't think that's a longterm sustainable goal
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  because you're you're going to lose probably one to three of
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  the bigger name schools in your conference at some point in the
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  next 10 years, right? So.
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  It's just a tread water move to me.
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  We'll see if if they can make some other moves between now and
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  then. But it like it looks like it's
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  something that's not really going to come to fruition.
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  It's just going to keep the ACC alive after some of these big
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  dogs kind of leave the conference at some point in the
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  next 10 years. Yeah, that was the bigger pieces
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  is right now including Notre Dame, they're at 18 teams and if
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  we've been keep hearing there's five or six teams that want to
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  leave if it's effectively kept above 12, ESPN can't terminate
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  the contract. So now they're at that position
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  where they can't terminate the contract tally you mentioned.
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  They ain't getting paid for a long time.
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  SMU is getting nothing for seven plus years.
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  Nothing. Just happy to be here, They just
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  happy to be here. But as we know, if you ain't
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  ever seen pony excess, that's a lunatic bunch down there.
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  I am sure their boosters are going to be stroking some
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  massive freaking checks. If you ain't seen pony excess,
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  probably one of the best 34 thirties ever made.
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  Go check that out. Definitely top five.
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  Definitely top five way up there.
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  Also Stanford cash at the. End of the night.
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  You go watch that again tonight. Well, you got work to do, so I
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  mean why? Not Stanford and Cal taking
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  significantly reduced payouts. I think they're only taking 30%
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  upfront again. So the money effectively is
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  going into the current conference there.
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  You know, there's talk about how many times you're going to go
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  cross country and things like that.
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  The ACC is picking up, obviously slamslot games.
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  Why the ESPN wanted to make the move.
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  But this is such a reactionary move because if you take a look
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  at all the programs that were left out there, especially once
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  Oakland Tech, Oklahoma and Texas decided to leave, you could have
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  got a potential cream of the crop in the middle of the
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  country and then some solid West Coast teams.
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  Instead, they stuck around nose in the air.
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  Now we don't need to do that and the next thing you know,
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  conference out West died. The ACC is likely next on the
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  chopping block. Wouldn't shock me.
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  Brian, you say 10 years, somebody's just going to take a
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  risk and try to get out of the Gor.
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  Somebody's just going to take that risk watch.
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  And and somebody stated a couple times, State of Florida's crazy
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  enough they might be able to go to court and get it completely
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  dissolved. All right, let's talk about
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  this. Some breaking news that we had
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  heard for a while there. It's Nick Gallows out for the
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  year, which sucks. Yeah, I hate that for him.
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  Yeah, six years senior. So, Brian, I'll lead back to you
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  on this. That leaves Benji Gosnell,
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  Dequan Wright and HSG as your tight ends.
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  What do you think? They're going to miss the
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  leadership in that room for sure.
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  That's that's the biggest thing that I think is going to be
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  heard here. I think from a just an overall
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  talent perspective the the two guys behind him are are very
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  good, very reliable from that standpoint but.
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  It's something to be said for a guy that's seen it all was in
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  the system last year, took the majority of the snaps last year.
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  You can't really replace that type of experience, especially
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  when the other two guys, you know, one didn't get a single
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  snap last year because of injury and the other was in a reduced
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  role as a true freshman and playing mostly kind of a joker
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  type role in the offense. So that's something that we're
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  going to have to look at, but. You know, sucks for him and I
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  mean that's that's a big blow and you know he came back to to
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  try to have a, you know a better year this year and unfortunately
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  doesn't get to to really be a part of it as we move forward.
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  But you know we got Gosnell looked really good in in the
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  game against ODU we saw right. He had a couple drops also came
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  back made a couple plays in the passing game.
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  So I mean we got some ability there I think from a blocking
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  perspective. Benji showed out pretty good,
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  kind of in the same ballpark with with with Gallo and from
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  that perspective. So we'll see if he can kind of
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  continue to hone that skill, but definitely a big blow from a
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  leadership perspective. Yeah, definitely.
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  You don't never want to, you know, discount somebody being
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  heard in the time they put into the to the program.
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  So, you know, definitely prayers going out to Nick Gallo.
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  I think he's a captain, Captain this year, so I'm sure he'll
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  still be around the team still, you know.
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  Be able to provide that leadership even though he's not
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  on the field. But I will say with the guys
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  that we do have in now, although we're young, but we're young in
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  a lot of places, seems like we say that a lot.
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  The tight ends that we have are kind of a different mold than
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  him. If you go back and look through
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  like Virginia Tech history of tight ends, Gallo reminded me of
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  like a Ryan Mallett, the tight ends that we have now.
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  Benji's kind of close to Nick, but he's a little bit more
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  athletic, so I don't want to go quite a Bucky type tidying for
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  him. He's just himself.
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  But when you look at like Daquan, right, he's going to be
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  flanked out wild a lot more like Bucky was.
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  So I think for the offense is going to give them some more
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  flexibility of things they can do.
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  But we just got to figure out as far as when we're wanting to
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  block those zones and when we're wanting to, you know, have that.
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  Two set tidy and close, who's going to be able to block and
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  who's going to go and put a body in front of somebody.
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  So definitely not, you know not feeling good about Nick being
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  out, but I think that the pieces that we have, we have some some
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  variation there. So you got anything on this one,
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  Sheldon? I know this is this is what's as
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  we've heard for a couple weeks about his knee.
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  And obviously you know you don't want to scream it out until you
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  know it's confirmed. Yeah, I mean I wasn't for gal.
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  I wasn't huge fan of him as a blocker.
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  You know he didn't great out very well.
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  Obviously the leadership experience is important and the
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  the veteran leadership and all that stuff is important because
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  you know you're talking about Gosnell and and a one right who
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  are pretty pretty young players. So we'll see that all that plays
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  out. I mean the one thing I thought
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  was interesting. I'm trying to pull up the snap
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  count from the Old Dominion game as we speak, if I can get it.
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  But you know, Dick on, right? Actually didn't play very much
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  against against Old Dominion and he had a couple.
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  He had at least a one drop that I saw maybe 2.
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  So I don't know what's going on with him.
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  Honestly. I think guys know I like his,
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  you know, physicality. I like his just his motor and
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  his athleticism and he's gonna be a big piece.
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  We'll see what happens with, right.
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  Maybe as a yips sophomore slump. I don't know, but he just, he
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  didn't look quite right in that first game, so I think it's
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  going to be Gosnell and sending. Yeah, I know Wright's been
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  battling some injuries. I don't know exactly what
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  injuries he's been battling, but we've heard about him battling
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  injuries and missing practices and things like that.
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  I mean, maybe a little bit down the line, but I'm also going to
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  be excited to see Zeke Winbush, see what they can get out of
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  him. He was very dynamic in high
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  school, just. I think he played against
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  Highland Springs in one game and he was, if not the best player
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  on the field. He was.
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  He was close to it. He was a dynamic player that was
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  a lot of good players on that field.
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  So I'd like to see what he does at tight end, maybe about a year
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  away. He may get a little bit of time
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  this year, but I like to see what he's got.
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  Yeah man, I know the staff feels good about him, so it's just
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  going to be a matter of getting him into the rotation at some
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  point as we go along through the season to get him some
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  meaningful. Plays and snaps this season,
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  hopefully maybe to maintain that red shirt and carry that on to
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  the next year and have him kind of take the next step.
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  It is one of those things that since it likely happened in the
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  preseason, something that we have been preparing for
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  adjusting to versus 44 games in. If Gallo had been doing a good
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  job of solidly blocking, not blocking it out of the water,
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  catching some passes, then you have to really adjust quickly.
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  Where you saw we saw De Quan. You did mention Shell, he did
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  drop a pass, but he did catch a nice little little dig route up
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  in the middle of the field for first down.
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  We saw Benji on that seam route. Brian screamed to me as we were
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  watching it to play from the spring game Right there up the
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  seam, which was awesome to see. Real quick.
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  Tally saw a comment that some I made out here and he wants to
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  address it. So this is going to be tally
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  space-time before we get into what we want to talk about.
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  So I'm going to pull it up here. Tally, I'm going to let you read
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  it is from one of our listeners, Cucked this, so go ahead.
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  Yeah he was in here early man and he was in here early putting
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  stuff in. So just wanted to address I seen
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  because again thank y'all everybody was listening.
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  We we definitely appreciate y'all like.
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  Follow, share, all of that good stuff.
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  But what he says here is he said, Hey, what's up fellas?
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  Virginia Tech really drives me crazy.
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  I'm going to be honest. Pride has the personality
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  mannerisms to be Tech coach, but he just doesn't understand
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  running a Power 5 program. Our players small, all of the
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  whole statement, you can say what you want.
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  But that last piece where it says our players small, if you
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  think our players are small now because of pride.
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  Where have you been the last 10 years, four years, five years?
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  We were running out five foot 10 defensive ends.
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  No disrespect to any of those guys that we had, but we are
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  much bigger than we were in the past.
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  Not saying that this team is going to be anything.
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  I don't know what we're going to be, what we're not going to be.
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  I just wanted to address the Our players are small.
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  I've been screaming this for years.
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  And one thing, so I pay attention to that.
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  So I wanted to bring that up with our players being small.
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  Some of it's just what we have, Some of it's we don't have to
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  get in the weight room, But some of it is just if you go look at
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  the players that they're recruiting, linebackers, DNS,
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  defensive tackles. They are safeties are much
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  bigger than they have been in the past.
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  So I think prize got that going in the right direction with the
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  players being small thing and then another thing, some of our
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  players that played are freshmen like they are.
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  This is their first, they're just now getting on campus for
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  the most part. So they're not even to their
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  peak, but where they will be so. I think the progress that he's
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  making is good and I hope we continue to move forward.
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  It's going to be a big week so we can see what we got the test
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  for us, absolutely we are and we'll say good evening to Levar
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  says good night, good evening. And yeah, it is a work in
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  progress and it has to be given some time because you can't
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  expect the coach to come right in and what he's given
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  immediately make 6 foot guys turn into 6 foot three guys and
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  220 pound guys to be 260 pound guys doesn't happen overnight.
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  So I definitely get that. All right, So told y'all, we got
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  a new segment and we're going to be doing this after every game
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  and it's something our buddy coach Robbie Compton and his
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  team sits down and do every Monday.
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  And what they, what we call it is, we're going to call it is
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  tell the truth Tuesday. So tell the truth and what we're
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  going to be looking for, We're going to be talking about what
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  went well in the game, what went bad, what is something that we
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  did not prepare for. And I'm going to just put that
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  on two things. We as fans didn't prepare to see
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  it and where we feel like our coaching staff didn't prepare to
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  see it. And then finally, what can we do
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  better moving forward? So you're going, we're going to
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  do this every Tuesday. And by all means, if you've got
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  something that went well as we're talking about it bad, not
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  prepared for, or what we got to do better, move forward, put it
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  in the chat. We'd love to hear from you, but
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  let's start with what went well and me and Brian sitting on the
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  couch sipping some whiskey on Saturday night, we actually had
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  an identity on offense. Say what you want to say, we had
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  an identity on offense. And the first thing I'll say I
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  noticed was is that the same tile of bowing in the booth
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  because those play calls did not look the same as last year.
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  What do y'all think? I mean, yeah, it's a lot, lot
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  more zone heavy in the running game.
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  But from a passing game perspective, we weren't as
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  hesitant to throw over the middle of the field intermediate
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  routes. There was, you know, a little
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  more RPO mixed in there than what we saw last year.
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  So it's kind of kind of what we expected, what we've talked
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  about a lot, but it's nice to see some of that play out.
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  Actually in a live game and not just hypothetically and not just
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  in a scrimmage that you watched or or spring game, so good
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  seeing the offense kind of take those steps forward and you know
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  looks like we we can sling it around a little bit.
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  So those playmakers are helping. Yeah, definitely, definitely
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  glad that Allergenics man. Golly.
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  I mean, he's just explosive, man.
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  Besides being on the field, if you watch like the postgame
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  stuff, like if you've seen how many of his family he had there,
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  that's why you recruit people to come to.
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  That's why you want Virginia players to be at Virginia Tech.
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  Like, I don't know how many tickets his family network after
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  the game. He had like 40 people up there.
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  Yeah man. And it's like if they can fill a
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  section by themselves, man, It's going to be easy to sell the
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  games out. But talking about play calling.
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  Like you said, we did have an identity.
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  No matter if we liked the identity or not, if he was
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  watching the game, there was an identity there.
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  I wish they would have got away from it sometimes myself because
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  we were missing stuff or you know we just didn't find the
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  holes. If the we didn't find the open
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  receiver, if he was there, different things like that.
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  But besides that, I mean, we seen the two, we seen 2
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  quarterbacks play. May not have been as much or as
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  little as some people like, but. You know, they talked about it
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  and we've seen both quarterbacks get in the game.
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  So I was very, you know, enthused by what I see when
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  you're when it's going on, you're sitting on pins and
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  needles. But you know, at the end of the
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  game, 3617 game, I said 14 points, we win by 19, I'll take
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  it. I will take it all day and
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  tomorrow. We covered.
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  She'll know about you, man. What do you feel about the play
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  calling? And I'm I'm sure there's other
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  things that you always talk about you saw more of.
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  Yeah, I thought the, I thought the the passing concepts were
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  fantastic. I mean they got the bottom space
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  out to the perimeter. They got wells on some rollouts
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  where, you know, tech playmakers could make plays.
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  I thought the rockcomers were good.
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  I love that you mentioned that. That fake screen pass that
• 21:04
  seemed right up the middle with Gosnell was fantastic and they
• 21:08
  actually they use a screen pass as earlier in the game to set up
• 21:11
  a play like that So we can talk about you know situational play
• 21:13
  calling. You want to use plays to set up
• 21:15
  plays later in the game. They did that.
• 21:17
  I thought they had good route combos.
• 21:19
  They they ran option routes that attacked the leverage of the
• 21:22
  defensive acts, like that first touch on pass at Jennings where
• 21:25
  I think he ran a corner routes to the back corner in the end
• 21:28
  zone. Yeah, and I just, I thought it
• 21:32
  was really good. I mean the the passing team was
• 21:33
  good. Like you said, they went over
• 21:34
  the middle, which Bowen's predecessor certainly did not do
• 21:38
  any of. I thought it was really good
• 21:40
  overall. Yeah, any, I mean.
• 21:44
  Any and it was, it was multiple concepts.
• 21:46
  You call crossers. You called, you saw some drags,
• 21:48
  you saw again that right dig to the middle of the field.
• 21:51
  That is very awkward, to see a tight end get up the seam and
• 21:55
  then just stop, come back. Grant Wells almost took the
• 21:59
  umpire's head off like that dude.
• 22:02
  By the way, quick reaction time of that umpire to get out of the
• 22:05
  way. But something else I want to
• 22:07
  say, and there's a couple comments in here.
• 22:09
  We'll throw them up in just a second about what went well.
• 22:12
  Give Grant Wells, dude, he was not perfect and when he came out
• 22:16
  he was jacked to the sky. Somebody helped that boy calm
• 22:20
  down before in the first quarter of a game because.
• 22:22
  He had the crazy eyes, man. He had the crazy eyes and he was
• 22:25
  missing. Just missing.
• 22:27
  And I go back and look, if he's not his amp, Tune's probably a
• 22:30
  touchdown. We probably get another first
• 22:32
  down. The game might have been really
• 22:34
  more indicative of how it looked.
• 22:38
  But tally, give, give your man some props.
• 22:41
  Because Tally, yeah, everybody knows, man.
• 22:45
  I'm very critical of any quarterback, but definitely
• 22:50
  Grant Wells, because I've watched him.
• 22:52
  But when? When I just said no turnovers,
• 22:54
  man, I said no unforced turnovers and he didn't have
• 22:58
  any. You know, he protected the ball.
• 23:01
  The line protected him. I don't think they had a sack.
• 23:04
  You know, as bad as people talking about our line is, and
• 23:07
  we didn't do this. We didn't.
• 23:09
  We didn't give up a sack. Well, ODU wasn't good.
• 23:11
  I don't fucking care if we play in the school of the blind.
• 23:14
  If they ain't having quarterback, then that's good.
• 23:18
  Had no sacks. He had no touched.
• 23:20
  I mean, no turnovers. Had no interceptions.
• 23:24
  Hey, I'm good and like I said, it's a victory because last year
• 23:28
  was not a victory and we had four interceptions.
• 23:32
  So that's progress to me. I'll take.
• 23:36
  It good point by Cobbs here talking about minimizing
• 23:39
  penalties and winning the turnover battle.
• 23:41
  We didn't do that a whole lot last year.
• 23:44
  We had and usually we'd either have one, the other or both.
• 23:48
  And we had both against ODU last year where we had a bunch of
• 23:51
  penalties, we had a bunch of turnovers.
• 23:54
  Completely flip the flip the the script on that this year, so
• 23:58
  excited to see that and just I think overall seeing Grant
• 24:06
  finally settle in and and and have he put 33 good quarters
• 24:10
  together that that first quarter a little shaky.
• 24:13
  I think sometimes you know I think even you know the drone
• 24:16
  swap in there kind of threw his his rhythm off a little bit too.
• 24:19
  So yeah, it seemed a little forced to me.
• 24:22
  Yeah, yeah. And we'll talk about that.
• 24:24
  But as far as like what went well, I mean, you said that pass
• 24:28
  Pro was good. Grant had a really good pocket
• 24:33
  most of the night. Is that the best pocket he's
• 24:36
  ever had as a coach? He's QB.
• 24:38
  I mean, yeah. Statistically, yes.
• 24:42
  From what? From what we've been watching,
• 24:44
  yes, statistically. Yes, go ahead.
• 24:49
  They allowed two quarterback Currys the entire game, fewest
• 24:53
  since Duke in 2021. And he draw back what, like 37?
• 24:58
  30 times, Yeah, 30 times, yeah. So that's like, I mean, I don't
• 25:01
  know what wonder what that's like 8%, That's nothing.
• 25:04
  Yeah, that's pretty. Tell me 8%, I would advise
• 25:08
  everybody who is a hokey fan who is like me, very critical of
• 25:12
  everything that goes on on the team and you get some free time,
• 25:16
  go back and rewatch the games and watch the lines, because I
• 25:20
  know it's so hard because the camera's going where the ball
• 25:24
  is. But if you can just watch the
• 25:25
  line and go back and watch last year's line, even if you just go
• 25:30
  watch ODU, just go watch the ODU game.
• 25:32
  That game for this game, it it is, it's different.
• 25:36
  You know we can talk about, well, it's just ODU.
• 25:39
  It was just ODU last year and we lost.
• 25:42
  Great job by the line just to protect the man, Great job by
• 25:45
  the fans, man. The fans got two points in
• 25:48
  there, you know, y'all yelling and screaming and jumping.
• 25:51
  Had him snapping the ball 50 feet over his fucking head.
• 25:54
  So yeah, I asked the question on Twitter, like maybe a week
• 26:01
  before the season of who would score the first points and
• 26:04
  nobody say it. Fans.
• 26:08
  That was who scored the first points, The fans.
• 26:10
  And it was loud in that man. It was loud and I tell you what
• 26:15
  one reason it continued to stay loud was not only scoring points
• 26:19
  moving the ball. We talked about it last week go
• 26:22
  hit the quarterback Brian we put pressure on them all night and
• 26:27
  and she'll not let you start pulling the data but Brian just
• 26:29
  watching just the the line all night push.
• 26:34
  Yeah, I mean talk about a PR man.
• 26:36
  He was coming off the edge hot every snap, Every time there was
• 26:41
  a drop back, he was coming off the edge hot. 5 sacks compared
• 26:45
  to one last year, four other tackles for loss.
• 26:48
  I mean that that's that's solid across the board.
• 26:52
  You know, a PR good start to his potential ten sack campaign this
• 26:56
  year. Already A2.
• 27:00
  Yeah, already A2, already A2. That's a.
• 27:02
  That's a good start, Game one. Yeah, I mean I think the the
• 27:07
  pressure we've got a pass rush now.
• 27:10
  Having a pass rush makes the rest of the defense a lot
• 27:13
  easier. So if we if we can keep that up
• 27:16
  against as the competition you know slowly ratchets up as we go
• 27:20
  through September here, it's going to be interesting to see
• 27:24
  if we can maintain that, but good start at the gate.
• 27:27
  What about your BMF tally? First, second of you, Burgos,
• 27:33
  you know, yeah, you're looking around, man, and you see people
• 27:36
  around the quarterback just get there.
• 27:38
  You know, you see you. We had a couple of different
• 27:40
  people getting to the quarterback.
• 27:42
  And Burgos is a young guy. I think he's a sophomore.
• 27:45
  You know he is. Shoot, he's, he's come in and
• 27:49
  stole some, stole some playing time.
• 27:51
  He's starting. You know, I would have never
• 27:53
  said Burgos was going to be the starter.
• 27:56
  And he goes in, he's got the first sack of the year.
• 27:59
  I think Penne got him a sack. CJ McCray comes off the bench,
• 28:03
  he gets his sack. Like games like that just build
• 28:08
  some confidence, you know, and it makes the other team have the
• 28:11
  game plan. That's a couple of things that
• 28:14
  we didn't have in the past years.
• 28:16
  We didn't have people game planning for certain linemen.
• 28:19
  We didn't have people game planning for more than one
• 28:22
  offensive playmaker. So excited about that. 100% and
• 28:28
  and you saw it all night, it was all areas of the line.
• 28:32
  That we're creating the pressure and it was when the backups came
• 28:34
  in, like you said, McCray got a sack and they got a sack.
• 28:38
  Sheldon, were you able to pull up anything about how much
• 28:40
  pressures we got throughout the night versus ODU?
• 28:44
  Yes, I'm trying to, Yeah. Yeah.
• 28:46
  So I got it here. So we had 16 total pressures,
• 28:50
  which includes 5 sacks and 11 quarterback hurries.
• 28:53
  Good. So I don't.
• 28:55
  Know they only draw back like 25 times.
• 28:58
  Probably something like that, yeah.
• 29:00
  I mean obviously. Apr was just a stud and like he,
• 29:04
  I mean he can do the bull rush. I mean he'll just he'll just
• 29:07
  dominate you. So I'm really I'm really excited
• 29:09
  about him and CG McRae I I thought I was gonna play more
• 29:12
  than he did. He only played him full of
• 29:14
  snaps, probably only got like. Six, yeah, I was looking at that
• 29:17
  too show and that threw me off a little bit because I mean he
• 29:20
  looks good when he gets in. So I I don't know.
• 29:23
  I'm, I don't know about that. I think he may be one of those
• 29:27
  light players. You know, lights turn on and he
• 29:30
  he, he shows up. Yep.
• 29:32
  And so if the the number Shelton just gave, they drop back 25
• 29:37
  times, that's a 64% that we were getting hurries and then
• 29:43
  finishing on 30% of those. If you tell me those are the
• 29:48
  numbers all year, write it down. I wouldn't back away from that
• 29:53
  because that's some crazy numbers and I know they're going
• 29:56
  their things are going to level out.
• 29:57
  But just that start tally and Brian, I'm going to let y'all
• 30:01
  just talk about this before we go to.
• 30:02
  Unfortunately we got to say that what didn't go well, how much
• 30:06
  confidence do y'all think now those young players have and
• 30:09
  those guys who didn't experience, you know, wins last
• 30:13
  year, first time we scored 30 points.
• 30:16
  Since. Oh God, it's been well over 2
• 30:19
  years. You got on Twitter.
• 30:21
  People was pissed. We was all pissed.
• 30:24
  Everybody was on there. Oh, he should have scored more.
• 30:27
  Oh, this is we look horrible. Oh, such and such is better.
• 30:30
  Every game is related to Virginia Tech in hokey Twitter's
• 30:36
  eyes. I understand.
• 30:38
  We got to take a breath, man. If we get a win, we get a loss.
• 30:41
  I'm going to be on that edge with you, but we could win and
• 30:44
  we win by 1.3 stores. I got to slow myself down man,
• 30:50
  because I again, I go back and I'm y'all are going to get tired
• 30:53
  of me saying it. But this is what I think.
• 30:55
  You lose by a lot, then you lose by a little, you win by a
• 30:58
  little, then you win by a lot. If this is the year that we're
• 31:01
  winning by a little and we start off with a 19 point win, I'll
• 31:05
  take it. I will take it.
• 31:07
  Yeah. I'm right there with you.
• 31:09
  I think this is a a good start for the confidence of this young
• 31:13
  team, which I mean they are young in a lot of places that
• 31:17
  matter, you know, offensive line, linebacker, secondary.
• 31:24
  You know, we're we're young in a lot of places, but we've Got
• 31:27
  Talent to go with that this year, whereas last year it was
• 31:31
  mostly just just a lot of youth and.
• 31:35
  And and and and or or sixyear guys that.
• 31:38
  Didn't see at the field a ton those previous five years.
• 31:41
  So it's good to kind of flip that around a little bit and get
• 31:46
  some confidence early because I feel like we can kind of carry
• 31:50
  that momentum here into Purdue, get get home again the very next
• 31:53
  week. If you can start stacking a
• 31:55
  couple there together, that'll give you some confidence as you
• 31:57
  head on the road back-to-back weeks against Rutgers and
• 32:01
  Marshall. And and hopefully carry through
• 32:04
  September and have a have a have a good September if you know
• 32:07
  finish. Been a long time.
• 32:08
  It'd be nice to finish 401. We had a good, so five or five
• 32:11
  and oh in September. But you know, I don't want to
• 32:13
  get ahead of myself, let's let's look at Purdue first.
• 32:16
  But carrying that confidence into Purdue is important.
• 32:18
  Yes, it is. Now let's just be real.
• 32:20
  Not everything was sunshine and roses Saturday night.
• 32:23
  We know it and we'll talk about it.
• 32:25
  And this is where we go. To tell the truth.
• 32:27
  Tuesday, what went bad. And I think you know.
• 32:31
  And y'all can, we've already hit on this a little bit.
• 32:33
  That first quarter was kind of shaky, getting the cobwebs off
• 32:35
  and getting the rust off. I think what was more important
• 32:39
  though is what happened in the second quarter, They did shake
• 32:43
  it off. So it was bad.
• 32:44
  You started slow. I don't think we can start slow
• 32:48
  in the next three weeks, especially in the next three
• 32:51
  weeks. We cannot have the slow start
• 32:53
  like that or we will be playing from behind.
• 32:55
  But as much as that was something.
• 32:58
  Brian, I know you watched the tape and you were screaming all
• 33:01
  night about linebacker fits in in containment, so the floor is
• 33:05
  yours. Yeah, backside contain was not
• 33:09
  very good. We ended up letting quarterbacks
• 33:13
  sneak out, get leaky in the backfield.
• 33:15
  We had a couple runs that were cutbacks.
• 33:19
  One in particular was cut all the way across the field.
• 33:23
  All the way across the whole dam field they were they were trying
• 33:26
  to set up a double pass. Next thing you know they still
• 33:28
  got the first down on the other side of the field.
• 33:32
  You got, you got to make sure when you're pursuing that you're
• 33:35
  pursuing with contain leverage because eventually that's going
• 33:41
  to come and bite you in the ass and linebacker fits.
• 33:44
  You know some of that had to do with ODU that that ultra spread
• 33:48
  they had those stacked receivers in that ultra spread.
• 33:51
  They had everybody kind of outside the numbers.
• 33:53
  That spreads you out. We I don't think we did a good
• 33:56
  job of adjusting to that quick enough but the the fits in
• 34:01
  general were were inconsistent. I think we had a we had you guys
• 34:07
  kind of not where they needed to be on a handful of plays.
• 34:10
  We saw guys start to over pursue.
• 34:13
  Once the running back had some kind of a couple Gasher runs
• 34:16
  they started over keying on the running back over pursuing the
• 34:20
  play. That set up some big runs for
• 34:21
  the quarterback. So.
• 34:23
  Got to clean that up. But definitely a fixable thing.
• 34:25
  But definitely one of the from a defensive standpoint, the kind
• 34:30
  of the biggest blemish to take away from ODU.
• 34:35
  Yeah, yeah, we had some like pretty much like you said
• 34:39
  Brian's talking about the the linebacker fits and things like
• 34:42
  that. It's even on some of those plays
• 34:44
  where we got pressure on the quarterback.
• 34:46
  He escaped and you know made a run out of it and you know, may
• 34:50
  have got a first down or got 7-8 yards.
• 34:54
  We got to do a better job. But when we're fitting those
• 34:56
  holes, you know, keeping that outside arm free so we can be in
• 35:00
  those running lanes to try to slow them down or rip the ball
• 35:03
  out of something. And I think a lot of new people
• 35:06
  at new places are just going to have to learn that on the fly.
• 35:11
  You know, it sucks that that's what college, that's what
• 35:13
  football is. But we we got, we got to do a
• 35:17
  better job of when we do get pressure and pressures all
• 35:21
  around that quarterback, we definitely don't need him to
• 35:23
  burst out of there and get 10 yards.
• 35:25
  So fitting and containing and things like that, we got to do a
• 35:29
  much better job at. Because that that wasn't good.
• 35:33
  Sheldon hit us up real quick. What were the linebacker?
• 35:36
  You have the linebackers grades up there.
• 35:39
  I do, yes. Basically, just to give you this
• 35:42
  skinny Lawson was pretty bad. Keller was pretty bad.
• 35:48
  Trying to look around here for guys who got at least a handful
• 35:51
  of steps. Tisdale was OK, but he was not
• 35:53
  great on in the run fits. So yeah that's kind of, that's
• 35:58
  kind of was. And then CJ McRae was a little
• 36:00
  bit better, but didn't he didn't play very much.
• 36:02
  And then Will Johnson, they had him a little bit better, which I
• 36:04
  thought was surprising because I thought he made a couple for
• 36:08
  poor fits there as well. So yeah and especially with the
• 36:10
  run defense it was not great. So but that's, I mean that's
• 36:13
  kind of what we saw last year too.
• 36:14
  Like these guys are still growing.
• 36:16
  So you figure out at some point, hopefully they can, you know,
• 36:18
  kind of start making those mental mistakes.
• 36:21
  Yep. And I think the big part of it,
• 36:23
  now that you say that is now all those guys, because that really
• 36:28
  was the first time that those guys were working together as a
• 36:31
  unit, right? It's on tape, it's on tape.
• 36:35
  You can sit down. I do have a feeling Coach Pride
• 36:38
  is going to be going into that room quite a few times this
• 36:40
  week. Have some conversations with
• 36:42
  people about what's been going on.
• 36:45
  Couple other things. We definitely talked about, you
• 36:47
  know, not being the best. And again, what are some
• 36:51
  defensive coaching adjustments? It felt like, especially on
• 36:54
  those runs, it took us about 3/4 to finally decide, OK, we're
• 37:02
  going to adjust to this now. When we made the adjustment,
• 37:06
  them moving the ball was over pretty much for the remainder of
• 37:08
  the game. But Brian, this is Chris Moss
• 37:12
  first time. What do you think?
• 37:14
  Do you think this was just trying to go to the well one too
• 37:17
  many times or was it trying to get enough data to decide?
• 37:21
  OK, we've got to adjust now. So I'm going to take a little
• 37:25
  bit of a hedge here. I think Marv saw that he had
• 37:29
  lost a key piece of his secondary and knew the youth
• 37:33
  that was behind that and didn't want to shift to what he needed
• 37:37
  to shift to, which is. Running a lot more man outside
• 37:42
  and committing a couple more players into the box to keep the
• 37:46
  the holes a little bit less leaky and make being able to get
• 37:49
  to those fits a little bit easier.
• 37:53
  But I think he was a little bit of hesitant going to that.
• 37:55
  Like I said, you had Stroman out once, he was out on that end of
• 38:00
  the first half. Maybe he was a little bit
• 38:02
  hesitant of going to that on a consistent basis.
• 38:07
  That's when they had you know some success in the running game
• 38:09
  there. So once he finally made the
• 38:11
  adjustment and you know the clock was kind of against them
• 38:13
  and they had to go in more passing, I mean we can just shut
• 38:15
  it down after that. So if you can get there a little
• 38:19
  bit quicker that'd be nice. And like I said, I don't know if
• 38:21
  the the reason is because of those issues with targeting or
• 38:26
  or if it had something else to do with just you know, not
• 38:28
  wanting to lean on the the younger guys as quick.
• 38:32
  And some of it too was I think pry hit on it in the like the
• 38:38
  halftime presser halftime little you know interview or whatever
• 38:43
  that he had when he talked about you know that we were sending
• 38:46
  pressure and when you're sending pressure you're leaving some
• 38:49
  part of the field open, you know, whether it's for them to
• 38:52
  run a draw or them to run a pop pass or something.
• 38:55
  And he was like, hey I mean we send a lot of pressure.
• 38:57
  We might I might have to talk to him about you know holding up a
• 39:00
  little bit. So that's I think that's Marv
• 39:03
  just trying to he was trying to make something happen and great
• 39:07
  job of getting pressured to the quarterback when we got it.
• 39:09
  But every now and then we need somebody to stay there and
• 39:12
  inspired. We need to you know drop back
• 39:14
  and coverage and things like that.
• 39:15
  So he's young and he's learning. So I think, like you said,
• 39:19
  pride's going, he's probably popping his head in that room a
• 39:22
  lot this week, especially with who we're playing and what's
• 39:26
  coming up that we'll talk about. And I'm gonna hit the Gray cat
• 39:29
  up here because he mentions they are an experience and it did
• 39:32
  show but. There were some athleticism
• 39:35
  there because as as many, as many gashes as we got.
• 39:40
  You know, no one ever broke anything over 30 yards and there
• 39:44
  were only three explosive runs over 20 plus yards.
• 39:47
  So you know, again, it's on tape now.
• 39:50
  And one last piece of the bad we got to talk about Brian wanted
• 39:55
  five yards of carry. Sheldon, hold on, hold on.
• 39:59
  Always that Sheldon Shelton's Our dad got Shelton.
• 40:02
  Did we get 5 yards of carry? Not even close.
• 40:08
  No, you could double like you could double and we barely would
• 40:11
  get it. So.
• 40:13
  Brian brother was bad. Just just tell me what you saw
• 40:18
  and I know are we going to do the tape now or is just going to
• 40:21
  be later? We we can do the tape.
• 40:25
  Got a few? Clips here and Brian's going to
• 40:27
  do some explanation because Brian where we getting shoved
• 40:31
  back in our laps. For the most part no we we were
• 40:36
  we were at least getting some stalemates some decent push I
• 40:41
  would say on the on the front there you know the problem was
• 40:45
  we weren't getting to the second level worth of damn and you know
• 40:49
  we'll we'll talk about that a little bit but against that
• 40:51
  three man front that odd front especially if it's a stacked
• 40:54
  front that can be problematic so.
• 40:58
  We can look at a couple here. Say thank you to Shelton for
• 41:01
  getting these pulled for us so we can take a look all.
• 41:05
  Righty. Can we go first clip?
• 41:09
  There was one of the times, yeah.
• 41:11
  I'm just going to let it run first and then we can kind of
• 41:13
  run it back here. So let me just inside zone here.
• 41:18
  We but we got 2 problems. Both of those inside linebackers
• 41:21
  there are going to get in the backfield.
• 41:24
  You got Benji up there up at the top of Parker.
• 41:27
  A little slow getting hip to hip here means Parker's a little
• 41:31
  late coming off. You got a linebacker in the
• 41:35
  backfield. Get a little hit on the running
• 41:37
  back, but let's move inside a little bit more.
• 41:40
  We got Shick and we got Kate Moore at the right Garden
• 41:44
  center. Bob Shick does not do a good job
• 41:48
  of trying to take over this nose here.
• 41:50
  He didn't use his eyes. Looking at that backer comes off
• 41:54
  a little too quick. That backers up in there on the
• 41:57
  play side A and he's trying to come over the top.
• 42:01
  He should have pushed Kaden off here.
• 42:03
  Kaden should have been picking up that that backer there.
• 42:07
  So both those backers kind of get a free run at the at the
• 42:09
  running back here. Make a little tackle for loss.
• 42:12
  Fortunately only one of a what a what A couple tackles for loss
• 42:16
  in the game here. But that one was pretty ugly.
• 42:19
  Two guys, not really really Two sets of combo blocks.
• 42:22
  Not really going off and getting to the second level the way you
• 42:25
  want to see them. Yeah, and that linebacker, I
• 42:27
  think it was 42. He's good.
• 42:30
  Oh yeah, he's a good. He's a good linebacker.
• 42:32
  You got to put a hat on him. Yeah, I think this is just guys
• 42:37
  not not communicating and not using their eyes.
• 42:41
  Something that that should get better with time, but not not a
• 42:45
  good effort on this play in particular and we'll go ahead
• 42:48
  and run the second one here. Somebody would have just got
• 42:57
  that guy. Was that the middle linebacker?
• 43:00
  Well, you at least get you'll give a solid 5 yard gain here.
• 43:03
  If if we're watching Bob shake here, he's he's going to have a
• 43:07
  combo on the the defensive end down here at the bottom and this
• 43:12
  backer here. But he he takes his own step,
• 43:16
  but he gets his shoulders turn too much.
• 43:20
  He doesn't keep them parallel enough with a lot of scrimmage.
• 43:22
  So he kind of loses this backer. If he'd have kept his shoulders
• 43:27
  a little more square, gave his little little right hand punch,
• 43:31
  but he kept his eyes on the backer, he'd be able to see
• 43:34
  where that guy's going. He wouldn't miss getting that
• 43:38
  wall because we get that wall and seal on the linebacker here,
• 43:42
  That's at least a solid 5 yard game.
• 43:44
  There's gonna be some contact right this level here and you'll
• 43:49
  you'll end up getting, like I said, a solid. 5-6 yards at
• 43:52
  least. If you break a tackle, you might
• 43:54
  end up getting a few more so. He looking he looking third
• 43:57
  level before you go to 2nd. Yeah, yeah.
• 44:00
  And I mean, I get it. He, he clears here, he doesn't
• 44:03
  see anybody. He's finding, he's finding the
• 44:04
  next guy to hit that. I mean, that's what you're
• 44:06
  supposed to do. But he lost the live backer that
• 44:09
  that should have been the guy he's sealing off.
• 44:12
  Good deal. Thanks Siegler for breaking that
• 44:14
  tape down. Hopefully some of those things
• 44:17
  can get corrected before next. Or for this Saturday.
• 44:21
  Excuse me, We'll get into that in just a few seconds.
• 44:24
  I'm I'm hoping Bob Chick is not a weekly punching bag all.
• 44:29
  Right, I'm hoping. I'm hoping the quarterback pull
• 44:32
  a couple of those too. There you.
• 44:34
  Go. All right, so the third thing
• 44:36
  we're going to always talk is what happened that we were not
• 44:39
  prepared for. And we wrote just two things
• 44:42
  down on this. I think the 1st and Brian's
• 44:45
  already mentioned it was the RPO middle rushes from that stacked
• 44:49
  ultra spread. I don't think anybody saw that
• 44:51
  happening. Honest to God, don't.
• 44:53
  If somebody had that outlined out there, please send us the
• 44:56
  article where somebody said it out loud.
• 44:59
  I don't think anybody saw. Nobody watched enough Fordham
• 45:01
  tape, apparently. I don't know.
• 45:03
  Yeah, but I don't think they did that often at.
• 45:04
  Fordham, though, they didn't. They didn't.
• 45:08
  And then the other one would be the linebacker combination
• 45:11
  because Sheldon you just mentioned there a few minutes
• 45:13
  ago Will Johnson actually had a significant amount of stops and
• 45:17
  and then just kind of looking at it.
• 45:19
  It wasn't always like Mike Will because there is at one point
• 45:24
  time it was him and Lawson on the field at the same time.
• 45:27
  Which one of those two things were more surprising or y'all
• 45:29
  didn't expect Shelton? Of those two, I'll defer to
• 45:35
  Brian here because I think he would have better insight on
• 45:39
  this. Yeah, I mean I think the to me
• 45:45
  it would be the linebacker combinations.
• 45:46
  I think the. You expected probably a new
• 45:51
  wrinkle from ODUI mean they're playing an instate rival,
• 45:54
  technically a level up in terms of Power 5 versus G5.
• 45:57
  You knew they're going to pull out something to mess with us
• 46:02
  schematically because they probably can't match up talent
• 46:06
  for talent at this point, especially on the defensive side
• 46:10
  of the ball. So you kind of expected some
• 46:12
  sort of wrinkle there? I think the linebacker
• 46:15
  combinations are interesting just because we saw WILL in the
• 46:17
  too deep. You know we didn't know.
• 46:20
  You know there was talk of McDonald being in the too deep
• 46:23
  there. There's a lot of different
• 46:24
  combinations. But Will being up there was kind
• 46:25
  of surprising when we looked at the depth chart for Week 1 and
• 46:28
  him getting that much run. And especially with the
• 46:32
  combinations like you said with the Lawson out there with with
• 46:35
  them sometimes you know we had Keller and and Tisdale on the
• 46:40
  field at sometimes. So there was.
• 46:41
  They mix and match a lot there. There wasn't.
• 46:44
  Necessarily a defined Mike and will in for in terms of that TV
• 46:49
  that they definitely rotated guys kind of across the board
• 46:51
  there in a in a more interchangeable fashion and I
• 46:54
  think we anticipated. So it'll be interesting to see
• 46:57
  if that's something that carries over, if that's just something
• 46:58
  they were playing around with against ODU as they kind of
• 47:01
  feel, feel out what they want their final rotation to be.
• 47:05
  Tally, what about you? I just didn't think the
• 47:08
  quarterback was going rush for more yards than he passed for.
• 47:13
  Close to, I mean, you know, getting breaking out and getting
• 47:18
  these runs and some of them design runs.
• 47:21
  So that RPO was a little bit unexpected, you know, as much as
• 47:26
  the as much as the seeing the different people.
• 47:29
  That linebacker was a little, I don't want to say alarming, but
• 47:35
  I just didn't know it was going to happen.
• 47:36
  I definitely didn't expect, you know, their quarterback to be.
• 47:41
  On the run as much as he was and making stuff, make plays.
• 47:44
  But thank the Lord that we made enough plays because I don't
• 47:48
  know what we've been practicing, but everybody was raking at the
• 47:51
  ball, so when we got a chance we was getting that ball out of
• 47:55
  there. Yes, we did 2 fourths fumbles, 1
• 47:58
  interception and they were putting the head on the ball for
• 48:01
  those two fumbles, which is great to see, but again. 3/4
• 48:07
  fumbles we got on 2. 3-4 fumbles.
• 48:10
  Well, four if you count the bad snap because that's considered a
• 48:13
  force fumble in the We'll take that one too.
• 48:17
  All right, real quick. Y'all.
• 48:19
  Last piece we do is what can we do better moving forward.
• 48:22
  We're going to be kind of short and sweet with these me straight
• 48:25
  up Grant Wells has to keep the ball on RPO's tally, pointed it
• 48:30
  out a couple times if he keeps a couple RPO's.
• 48:34
  And again, we don't expect 20 yards, We don't expect 15 yards.
• 48:38
  Get 3, get 4, make them be accountable for you, Brian, What
• 48:42
  do you got? I'm going to go with the
• 48:45
  offensive line here. Got to get to the second level,
• 48:47
  got to be able to maintain those combos, keep your eyes where
• 48:51
  they need to be and communicate across the board because I think
• 48:57
  that that's something that was missing a little bit.
• 49:00
  There was a couple times where guys should have pushed the guy
• 49:03
  off and didn't, a couple times where they were trying to get to
• 49:05
  the second level too quick. Or not at all.
• 49:09
  So there's there's just got to be better communication and
• 49:12
  better consistency in those combo blocks.
• 49:15
  Kelly. Quicker coaching adjustments
• 49:19
  that first quarter we was all inhale, purgatory, whatever you
• 49:22
  want to call it. And then the second quarter as
• 49:24
  soon as it starts laying, catches the touchdown fast and
• 49:27
  everybody breathes a little bit. What was that play we were
• 49:31
  waiting on that Let's get that a little bit early.
• 49:33
  That's all I'm gonna say for now. 100% and Sheldon, Yeah, so
• 49:39
  I would say Office of Line Communication in conjunction
• 49:42
  with play selection, they shall tootin forced 10 missed tackles
• 49:45
  against ODU. He had less than three yards per
• 49:48
  carry. That's not acceptable.
• 49:49
  He is doing everything he can to try to break the first level and
• 49:53
  he can't do it in conjunction with that.
• 49:55
  I also think the play selection was a little bit odd.
• 49:58
  Virginia Tech was very run heavy on 1st down, but if you look at
• 50:01
  the numbers, they they had 21st down runs.
• 50:04
  Only three of them were successful.
• 50:06
  So that's like 15%. I would prefer to see us pass
• 50:09
  Paul Moore in first down because I just don't think running is
• 50:11
  going to get the job done. All righty, Yes or no answer,
• 50:16
  Was this the best performance under Brent Pratt?
• 50:22
  I think you got to go, yes. I mean, I think you got to go,
• 50:25
  yes. Yes, I'm.
• 50:29
  Going to say yes, but it's not a enthusiastic yes because I'll
• 50:34
  say this. Relative to our talent level now
• 50:38
  compared to last year and relative to ODU's talent level
• 50:42
  compared to a Liberty last year, I think there's some arguments
• 50:46
  that could be made that that was a better win.
• 50:50
  But I think this is, this is a win that gives us I think more
• 50:53
  confidence because it is a season opener and I think we did
• 50:57
  more things all around well to win that game, but.
• 51:03
  Like I said, relative to the talent levels on both sides of
• 51:06
  the squad, you can make an argument for liberty, but I'm
• 51:08
  going to go. I'm going to go yes as well, but
• 51:09
  again, not, not, not as enthusiastic I think is the rest
• 51:12
  of the guys here. Brian is not following the
• 51:15
  instructions. Not following instructions.
• 51:17
  I'm going to say yes, that this is as well and I'm not going to
• 51:20
  get into anything else real quick.
• 51:22
  Tally, you mentioned it earlier, but y'all one of the coolest
• 51:24
  things was watching ACC Network, seeing Ali Jennings family up
• 51:28
  there and him kind of talking about running through that
• 51:30
  tunnel. And we we tell you mentioned it
• 51:33
  and we all know about it. That's the kind of kid you want
• 51:36
  to bring there because they want to be there, they're going to
• 51:40
  play hard. And he balled out damn near had
• 51:43
  three touchdowns, led the team in receptions with six for 172
• 51:47
  and two touchdowns. That was unbelievable to me.
• 51:52
  You know, that's just something you don't see every day and.
• 51:56
  I think you know he's already on A roll to get 1000 yards this
• 52:00
  season. Hopefully he keeps it up versus
• 52:02
  Purdue. All right.
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• 53:35
  are going to get to know the enemy Purdue a game all four of
• 53:38
  us will be in attendance for. Brian, myself and Tally heading
• 53:42
  down Friday night. Shelton joining us on Saturday.
• 53:46
  Can't wait to be back in the bird for this game, but let's
• 53:49
  talk about Purdue. We're going to talk about the
• 53:51
  offense first. Talking about this scheme, it's
• 53:54
  a Gram Harrell Air Raid attack. So Brian, give me a little
• 53:57
  insight, give the fans a little insight on what we're going to
• 54:00
  see from Purdue Saturday scheme wise.
• 54:03
  Oh yeah, you already said it. We got the Gram Harrell Air
• 54:05
  Raid, we saw it last year against West Virginia.
• 54:08
  We're seeing it again this year with Purdue like we talked about
• 54:12
  last year. It's a slightly more vertical
• 54:14
  version of the air raid, don't run the ball much or or really
• 54:18
  effectively at least that what we've seen in the first game so
• 54:21
  far. But they'll occasionally hit a
• 54:22
  chunk play and they like to mix in some RPO concepts in the in
• 54:28
  the the air raid attack here too.
• 54:31
  So you'll see some RPO comp sets but mixed in there.
• 54:34
  But again, it's a typical Air Raid.
• 54:35
  They're going to hit you with a lot of short stuff.
• 54:37
  A lot of crossers get guys in space and let their athletes
• 54:41
  kind of make some big plays after the catch.
• 54:45
  Yeah, definitely. First, I guess the first athlete
• 54:47
  we were to talk about is a Dionne Burks.
• 54:50
  He's a wide receiver. Just giving a little bit of a
• 54:53
  back story on him or a little bit of information on him.
• 54:56
  So listed at about five 11175 as a recruit he was a 88 on 24786
• 55:07
  composite ranking. So about a mid three star, three
• 55:12
  star level recruit. Last week, he had four
• 55:17
  receptions for 152 yards. He had two touchdowns.
• 55:22
  I think his longest was 84 yards.
• 55:25
  So take it away, Brian. What you talking about this guy?
• 55:29
  Yeah, I mean, he's a game breaker.
• 55:30
  If he gets loose in the secondary, he sees the guy that
• 55:32
  you want to make sure doesn't have a whole lot of open space
• 55:35
  and that you bring him down on first contact.
• 55:38
  You know, really good against Fresno, but you know most of
• 55:41
  that yardage came with that one big play.
• 55:43
  There was three missed tackles, so you can break some tackles
• 55:45
  there as well. So that was something.
• 55:49
  Not a huge guy, but. Shifty, you know, gets away from
• 55:53
  stuff, keeps his legs churning. So he's the guy that we got to
• 55:57
  get to the ground as soon as he makes the catch.
• 56:00
  And they like to isolate him and man looks as well so they can
• 56:02
  kind of get him matched up, especially in the red zone.
• 56:06
  That's what they like to do is get him in This man looks where
• 56:08
  he's isolated on one side of the field and kind of just cook a
• 56:12
  little bit against man on man coverage.
• 56:15
  Sean, you got anything on him? Yes.
• 56:18
  He had 64 Smith tackles against President State which for a guy
• 56:22
  with only a four reception in the years, pretty insane.
• 56:25
  Biggest thing, biggest thing with Burke's average depth of
• 56:29
  target, 17 yards. So he's very much their, their
• 56:32
  deep ball guy. He's going to be running a lot
• 56:34
  of deep routes. So I have to make sure you're
• 56:35
  you're playing playing some tight man coverage.
• 56:39
  Yep, tell you mentioned the 84. His second longest was a 44
• 56:42
  yarder. So.
• 56:43
  He did a lot of damage in two plays there, and delivering him
• 56:48
  that damage was Hudson Card and Hudson Card.
• 56:51
  The Texas transfer 63210 out of Austin, TX transferred over.
• 56:58
  This guy was a pretty high prospect when he came out just a
• 57:01
  few years ago, you know class of 2020.
• 57:05
  He was a top 60 player, the number 2 dual cord.
• 57:09
  Dual threat quarterback in the country 97 composite 95 on 247
• 57:15
  and just kind of taking a look at his track record.
• 57:18
  You know with Texas he played in 12 games where you know through
• 57:23
  for just at excuse me, he played in 12 games last year at Texas
• 57:27
  where he threw just under 1000 yards, 6 touchdowns, 1TD against
• 57:31
  Fresno. Solid game 17 for 3254 and two
• 57:35
  touchdowns. Brian.
• 57:38
  What are we, What are we seeing from Hudson Card here?
• 57:42
  You know we we talked about the Graham Harrell offense here you
• 57:45
  know almost kind of read what seemed like is in terms of like
• 57:49
  high school rating and stuff like that.
• 57:51
  A mirror of what you know JT Daniels was coming out of out of
• 57:54
  high school with but card with a little bit more success.
• 57:58
  I feel like in the in the limited time there he's an
• 58:01
  accurate thrower of the football, doesn't take a ton of
• 58:04
  risk with the football I'll be that's inherent of the a rate
• 58:06
  anyway but. He's not going to put it in
• 58:09
  harm's way very often He will use his legs if given a lane,
• 58:13
  but he's not generally looking to take off.
• 58:14
  He's looking to kind of get those 3 steppers, get the guys
• 58:18
  in space and then get a good matchup with Dionne Burks down
• 58:21
  the field when he when he wants to take a shot, you know.
• 58:25
  But like most quarterbacks, he can get rattled when when
• 58:27
  pressure consistently, especially if it's coming up in
• 58:29
  his face there. Like I said, he doesn't really
• 58:31
  move too much in the pocket there, so.
• 58:34
  If we can get some pressure on him up the middle, I think we
• 58:37
  can get him a little rattled there.
• 58:38
  But you know, solid quarterback and like I said, really
• 58:41
  accurate, which, you know, you kind of expect of an Air Raid
• 58:44
  type quarterback. Anything standing out
• 58:46
  statistical wise, data wise Shelton for Hudson or is it just
• 58:50
  he is what he is? Yeah, he kind of is what he is.
• 58:53
  I mean last year at Texas PFF grade around 70, which is a
• 58:57
  little bit above average, he was around 92nd of 163 qualified
• 59:02
  quarterbacks, so nothing too special.
• 59:04
  I will say he did face pressure on 30% of his drop backs last
• 59:08
  year, so obviously blinds not doing a ton of favors obviously,
• 59:10
  which we'll get into, you know, soon.
• 59:14
  All righty, who we got next ally?
• 59:16
  So we talked about Hudson Card running, just a little bit of
• 59:19
  not wanting to run a lot. Last week he had 2929 yards on 6
• 59:27
  carries 13. His his long was about 13 so his
• 59:34
  running back is Devin Mockelby. He is He or he was a low three
• 59:41
  star, two star recruit out of Boonville IN.
• 59:45
  He's about 6 foot tall 200 pounds.
• 59:48
  His only offer out of high school was Navy and he walked on
• 59:52
  it Purdue. Now he is starting at running
• 59:55
  back. I think he is a sophomore.
• 59:58
  Last week he had 16 carries for 60 yards.
• 1:00:01
  His long was 20 yards. He had one touchdown.
• 1:00:04
  So that is going to be Hudson Cards guy that he's going to be
• 1:00:09
  wanting to hand the ball to the run.
• 1:00:12
  Yeah, and I mean, you know, you said he's a sophomore, red
• 1:00:15
  shirt, sophomore, former walk on.
• 1:00:17
  I had a good year last year, 900 yards, didn't didn't start,
• 1:00:21
  start the year as a starter. Had an injury.
• 1:00:23
  Got pushed into duty and and held up really well.
• 1:00:27
  Obviously struggled at the gate a little bit in this new system.
• 1:00:30
  You know, they had a week and banged up offensive line.
• 1:00:33
  So you know that kind of is what it is that that could carry over
• 1:00:38
  this week. We'll see.
• 1:00:39
  They had a, you know, we'll talk about the offensive line, but
• 1:00:41
  they had a center that was kind of rotating in and out and all
• 1:00:45
  this. So they they struggled.
• 1:00:46
  He had that one good play, that one good chunk play of 20 yards.
• 1:00:50
  Didn't really hit on a whole lot after that.
• 1:00:54
  But you know, he's a guy that that's 6 foot 200.
• 1:00:57
  He's a hard guy to bring down. Got to make sure you're rapping
• 1:01:00
  and he can't break off some chunk plays, but he's not a home
• 1:01:02
  run hitter. He's not going to hit those like
• 1:01:04
  big long ones, like a band of candor or anybody like that.
• 1:01:07
  So don't ever call that name on this podcast.
• 1:01:11
  Yeah, we're not going to see that, but he still is the guy
• 1:01:14
  that can get to the second level and kind of make a couple guys
• 1:01:17
  miss and things like that. But he's he's not going to be a
• 1:01:20
  home run threat. Yeah, that's kind of what I saw
• 1:01:23
  too in my statistical analysis. Look at the numbers here.
• 1:01:28
  You know he didn't force ton of his tackles, but the thing I did
• 1:01:31
  notice he's a big pass catching running back.
• 1:01:33
  Last year he had 274 yards as a receiver.
• 1:01:37
  So you know, gotta be aware that maybe some swing passes
• 1:01:39
  depending on you know, kind of how they how they do it, but
• 1:01:41
  definitely a big thread in the pass catching game all.
• 1:01:44
  Right. We'll definitely take note of
• 1:01:45
  that. We caught three passes last week
• 1:01:47
  too, 3 passes for 16 yards. Again that's that's a little
• 1:01:52
  check down, but again you have to think back, you have to think
• 1:01:54
  about him right here 16, that's not a great number but you look
• 1:01:58
  what he did last year, it's clearly proven success that he
• 1:02:01
  can be a positive gainer in that type of in that part of the
• 1:02:05
  offense. So you know, getting Jenkins in
• 1:02:09
  the flats and you know the sear peoples and the safeties and
• 1:02:13
  stuff have to be a credit or have to be accounted for in that
• 1:02:17
  because to be honest. Taking a look at their offensive
• 1:02:20
  line, Shelton was dropping grades on me a little while ago
• 1:02:23
  and their best offensive lineman which was Marcus Embo.
• 1:02:27
  Embo spelled MB OW, if I'm pronouncing that wrong, somebody
• 1:02:31
  tell me a six five 305 offensive lineman out of Milwaukee, WI in
• 1:02:37
  Wata Watusa East High School at 247.
• 1:02:41
  He was a three star. Lot of offers though.
• 1:02:44
  A lot of offers all over the country.
• 1:02:46
  Places like Arizona, Arkansas, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan State,
• 1:02:50
  even our neighbors to the West of me and Brian here.
• 1:02:53
  UVA made his offer and he roughly was about an 86.
• 1:02:58
  One of the top ten players in Wisconsin and he graded out.
• 1:03:02
  Let me go look at it here. Shelton dropped this just a few
• 1:03:04
  minutes ago to me at a 70.5 as their right tackle.
• 1:03:10
  That was about all they had to write home about when it came to
• 1:03:12
  the offensive line. Because when Brown, when you
• 1:03:14
  broke their stuff down, not only as we were watching it here, but
• 1:03:17
  as you watched a little extra tape.
• 1:03:20
  Not great, Bob. Yeah, I mean, they struggled to
• 1:03:23
  establish the run against Fresno.
• 1:03:24
  They really couldn't get anything going.
• 1:03:25
  You know, like we said, Ma could be hit that one chunk play.
• 1:03:29
  I think there was one other good run by their other running back
• 1:03:33
  that got them in the end zone one time.
• 1:03:35
  But after that, there was a really a whole lot to write home
• 1:03:38
  about in the running game. They didn't give up any sacks.
• 1:03:41
  They had a ton of pressures, made it really hard for car to
• 1:03:44
  truly settle, settle in and cook against that Fresno State
• 1:03:47
  defense. Definitely the biggest weakness
• 1:03:49
  on the team and they played multiple centers like I was
• 1:03:53
  alluding to earlier against Fresno.
• 1:03:55
  I think they had three centers play in that game.
• 1:03:57
  So that's something to keep an eye on because rotating 3
• 1:04:01
  centers is not an ideal scenario to have.
• 1:04:06
  No, not at all. Not at all.
• 1:04:09
  But to be honest, let's talk about Fresno just a second here.
• 1:04:12
  Fresno did return eight of their eleven starters on the defensive
• 1:04:15
  side of the ball. Now what?
• 1:04:16
  They were missing, and I think this is jumped out to me as I
• 1:04:20
  was doing the research. They were missing their leading
• 1:04:23
  sack sack creator last year, who got drafted by Pittsburgh.
• 1:04:30
  So to me, I hear that yes, you return a lot of starters, but
• 1:04:33
  when a primary edge guy is gone and they're still causing that
• 1:04:36
  much havoc, still being able to stop that offense in some way,
• 1:04:40
  there is definitely some holes within the Graham Harrow Air
• 1:04:43
  Raid offense. All right, we're going to flip
• 1:04:46
  over to the defensive side of the ball and get to know you,
• 1:04:49
  Brian. Let's talk about Ryan Walters.
• 1:04:51
  Obviously at Illinois, he had that defense humming for a
• 1:04:54
  couple years. What are we taking a look at
• 1:04:57
  with Mr. Walters defense? Yeah, you're looking at a base
• 1:05:01
  3-4. They will go into a nickel
• 1:05:05
  package. That's going to be the 335 stack
• 1:05:07
  like we saw a little bit of against ODU, but their base is
• 1:05:10
  going to be a 3-4. You know we talked about it
• 1:05:14
  already, Odd fronts are going to be harder to run inside zone
• 1:05:16
  again. So we're going to get a little
• 1:05:17
  bit more of that this week. Hopefully we can make some
• 1:05:19
  adjustments and handle that a little bit better and they will
• 1:05:24
  occasionally play with the alignment of the linebackers.
• 1:05:29
  So in particular, the guy we're about to talk about here in a
• 1:05:32
  little bit. Well, and that linebacker he is
• 1:05:36
  talking about is Kydrane Jenkins.
• 1:05:39
  He is the outside linebacker 6 foot one £260 out of Louisville,
• 1:05:44
  GA at Jefferson County High School.
• 1:05:47
  Cadren was a low, low three star 84, the 135th player in the
• 1:05:53
  state of Georgia back in the class of 2020.
• 1:05:56
  And believe it or not, his only Division One offer was per due
• 1:06:02
  lot of G5 offers, and today the truth kind of has already hit
• 1:06:07
  off the bat in his first two seasons playing.
• 1:06:10
  Obviously you can see that playing sparishly in 26 games in
• 1:06:13
  its first two seasons. 67 total tackles, 16 tackles for loss, 9
• 1:06:19
  sacks, along with a couple past deflections in a forced fumble.
• 1:06:23
  And he started off good against Fresno State last week.
• 1:06:26
  Brian 6 total tackles, one sack, an additional tackle for loss.
• 1:06:31
  He is. I think you'll you'll put it in
• 1:06:35
  words here. I think he is probably their
• 1:06:37
  best defender. Yeah, he's a he's a pretty elite
• 1:06:39
  pass rusher. You know he'll get after the
• 1:06:42
  quarterback really well. He's not overly impactful in
• 1:06:45
  space or in coverage. They don't deploy him in that
• 1:06:49
  very often. He is primarily a pass rushing
• 1:06:51
  edge defender, but he holds up, holds up on backside containment
• 1:06:56
  in the run game. So he's not necessarily a
• 1:06:57
  weakness in the run game. He's just not great in space or
• 1:07:00
  in coverage. But his pass rushes is is solid
• 1:07:03
  across the board. He's going to, he'll play with
• 1:07:06
  his alignment, they'll they'll kind of send him inside, keep
• 1:07:08
  him on the edge, kind of mix and match him in there with
• 1:07:12
  depending on whether they go with that stack in the nickel or
• 1:07:14
  whether they're running out of the the the 3-4 base.
• 1:07:16
  So he's going to be on the field and getting after the the passer
• 1:07:20
  regardless. Anything on him, Shelton?
• 1:07:24
  Were you able to dig up? Yeah, which, which one we're
• 1:07:29
  talking about? We are talking about Kydron
• 1:07:32
  Jenkins, the outside linebacker. Jenkins.
• 1:07:36
  No, I don't have anything on Jenkins.
• 1:07:37
  I will say though with regards to their linebacking core, their
• 1:07:41
  MLB OC brothers had a forty grade from PFF last year which
• 1:07:46
  was the 4th worst among all Power 5 linebackers.
• 1:07:50
  So we look at the lineback course a whole, the defense as a
• 1:07:52
  whole. It was not great.
• 1:07:54
  They got some young players in there, some guys that you know
• 1:07:56
  turn to different programs where they didn't really excel.
• 1:07:59
  Obviously as as we talked about it's it's a defense that's
• 1:08:01
  really work in progress. Alrighty, Who's our next one,
• 1:08:05
  Tally? We got Markevius.
• 1:08:07
  Markevius Brown is a cornerback out of high school.
• 1:08:12
  He came from IMG Academy. He was a composite 4 star that
• 1:08:18
  started his career at Ole Miss. He had office from.
• 1:08:22
  Everywhere Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, FIU Had over 20 offers
• 1:08:28
  coming out of high school, went to Ole Miss and has transferred
• 1:08:32
  to Purdue Now he is a five 11180 pound quarterback.
• 1:08:40
  Last week he had I think 9 tackles.
• 1:08:44
  He was the 2nd leading tackler. Let me make sure I'm telling you
• 1:08:49
  that right, Brian. I don't want a lot to, you know,
• 1:08:52
  a lot to be a. Lot to him, he.
• 1:08:53
  Was the he had nine tacos last week, 1 Taco for loss behind
• 1:09:00
  another guy that we're going to talk about with Curtis here in
• 1:09:02
  just a little bit. But yes, seems to be a pretty
• 1:09:05
  good player. Brian, what you got on him?
• 1:09:07
  Yeah, he's their best man defender and you talked about
• 1:09:09
  the offers. I believe we were one of those
• 1:09:11
  offers in there because I I remember seeing this name a few
• 1:09:15
  years back on on our list. So has good speed, not afraid to
• 1:09:21
  be a little physical. You can see that by, you know
• 1:09:24
  getting getting a pretty good tackle count in there.
• 1:09:27
  But he can get caught kind of watching the action in the
• 1:09:30
  backfield, watching the action that kind of is moving in front
• 1:09:35
  of him. So sometimes that can catch him
• 1:09:37
  a little bit on aisle and let a man get behind him.
• 1:09:39
  But overall, good, good cornerback for definitely the
• 1:09:43
  best pure cover guy that they have in the secondary.
• 1:09:46
  And I know Sheldon has something he wants to add here as well on
• 1:09:49
  the step side. Yeah, so it was not good for him
• 1:09:52
  in coverage against Fresno, he was 8 for 12 when targeted for
• 1:09:56
  84 yards and a touchdown. So it's kind of a small sample
• 1:10:00
  size For his career. He just hasn't really had as
• 1:10:02
  many targets as you know, as a lot of other guys.
• 1:10:06
  But that's a pretty big red flag right there.
• 1:10:09
  Well, that does say a lot, but you know, 8 for 12, I mean you.
• 1:10:13
  You take a look at the data points though.
• 1:10:15
  Mikey King went 31 for 44. Mikey King's Fresno's
• 1:10:19
  quarterback, he lift them up for right over 350 yards, 4
• 1:10:24
  touchdowns and only one pick. So I do think that they have
• 1:10:28
  more than one hole in the secondary and one of the guys
• 1:10:32
  we're going to talk about next, which is Dylan Thieman.
• 1:10:36
  He was the leading tackler last week at this game.
• 1:10:39
  He had 10 total tackles and an interception.
• 1:10:42
  Femen, if we take a look just at his background, he was a 87 for
• 1:10:46
  247. He was a class of 2023.
• 1:10:50
  So this guy is a true freshman out there at approximately 6
• 1:10:53
  feet tall, 205 pound out of Carmel IN at Westfield High
• 1:10:56
  School. So.
• 1:11:00
  So we talked about Brown struggling.
• 1:11:02
  They got a true freshman playing free safety.
• 1:11:06
  Brian, what are you seeing from him?
• 1:11:09
  And I think we're about to Shelton just did it with the
• 1:11:12
  stats and we're starting to hear this thing come about their back
• 1:11:16
  end. Yeah, I mean this guy covers
• 1:11:19
  ground well. He, he does a good job of
• 1:11:21
  getting around and flying around making plays when he's able to
• 1:11:24
  kind of sit back in coverage. He does not do a good job when
• 1:11:29
  he's any any any sort of man responsibility or having to
• 1:11:32
  cover in the box. Definitely a guy that just wants
• 1:11:35
  to be that that that deep free. And and I think that may just be
• 1:11:41
  the fact that he's a true freshman and if you put him in
• 1:11:44
  that deep free he can just kind of read and react not a whole
• 1:11:47
  lot of additional responsibilities.
• 1:11:49
  So he excels there where what he doesn't excel at is kind of
• 1:11:53
  pretty much everything else. But he does tackle well if he
• 1:11:56
  fits up pretty good and gets guys to the ground, but it's
• 1:11:59
  just a little suspect in the other areas of playing safety
• 1:12:03
  right now. Yeah, and on him, he had 10
• 1:12:08
  tackles. I don't know if we said that.
• 1:12:09
  So between him and Brown, that was 19 tackles, 1st and 2nd
• 1:12:17
  tackler on the team last week came from your secondary.
• 1:12:21
  One or two things that throwing the ball on your lot or your
• 1:12:24
  linebackers and your line are not tackling people.
• 1:12:28
  Yeah, and Fresno didn't run the ball very well, so it was the
• 1:12:32
  former. There you go.
• 1:12:34
  So Speaking of a line, next guy we'll talk about is there big
• 1:12:38
  nose tackle, You got Cole Brevard, he is a six foot three,
• 1:12:46
  £333 or £335 nose guard or nose tackle.
• 1:12:52
  Excuse me, he is. He transferred from Penn State.
• 1:12:57
  He had big offers from. A lot of places, Florida State,
• 1:13:01
  Clemson, Notre Dame, he transferred there.
• 1:13:05
  I was looking, didn't find any stats from last week on him.
• 1:13:08
  So he's probably just a big gap filler, somebody there to not
• 1:13:13
  let people RP up the middle like ODU was doing against us.
• 1:13:17
  So what you got on him, Brian? Yeah, you pretty much hit the
• 1:13:20
  nail on the head there. And I'll I'll say this before we
• 1:13:22
  get into the the specifics of his game.
• 1:13:25
  He was one of those guys, the Penn State transfer where
• 1:13:28
  everybody on the timelines like we got to get this guy, we got
• 1:13:32
  to get this guy, he's a pride defensive player.
• 1:13:33
  We got to get this guy. You know he ended up at Perdue,
• 1:13:38
  we didn't get him. He ended up Perdue.
• 1:13:41
  He's a two gap nose. I mean he's he's in that 3-4,
• 1:13:45
  classic space heater, good motor overall.
• 1:13:50
  He will get replaced by another guy named Joe Anderson when they
• 1:13:54
  go to their nickel set, who's more of a pass rush specialist,
• 1:13:59
  really a defensive end that they kind of just slide into to be a
• 1:14:03
  a pass rushing nose. But Cole, definitely he he eats
• 1:14:07
  space. He does a good job of kind of
• 1:14:09
  taking up two blockers on a lot of plays.
• 1:14:12
  So he's somebody that you got to handle and like we said we
• 1:14:15
  struggled to get to the second level.
• 1:14:16
  We're going to have to be better at that this week against this
• 1:14:18
  guy. Sheldon, before we kind of close
• 1:14:22
  it out here, any additional stats, any additional data
• 1:14:26
  points you're seeing on the Purdue, Purdue defense that we
• 1:14:30
  should know about that might be helpful to the Hokies going into
• 1:14:35
  Saturday? Yeah.
• 1:14:36
  So just looking at their team in general and kind of performance.
• 1:14:39
  So there's a stack called Expected Points Added, or more
• 1:14:42
  commonly known as EPA. It's basically like an
• 1:14:44
  analytically correct version of yards per play, just takes into
• 1:14:47
  account field position, down distance, et cetera, et cetera.
• 1:14:51
  So EPA freshman state finished in 90th percentile in EPA for
• 1:14:56
  games this year against against Purdue.
• 1:14:58
  Purdue not quite as explosive offensively.
• 1:15:01
  They did have more yards per play, the bluemakers did, but
• 1:15:04
  the reason that FFC won the game ultimately was because they had
• 1:15:08
  a higher success rate, especially on 3rd down.
• 1:15:10
  They were 60% on 3rd down. So that's an indication probably
• 1:15:14
  that you know they're they're they're doing well on 1st and
• 1:15:16
  2nd down they're getting easy third down opportunities.
• 1:15:20
  I would say for those who are Virginia Tech fans who look at
• 1:15:25
  that result and say Oh well pretty loss of President State
• 1:15:27
  they must not be all that good. Let's let's hold up for a second
• 1:15:30
  if. Virginia Tech.
• 1:15:32
  If Virginia Tech were to play President State on a neutral
• 1:15:34
  field tomorrow, they would be 4 point underdogs, is my guess.
• 1:15:38
  So that's that's not a game where you can really say like
• 1:15:42
  yeah, we're going to beat that team, it's going to be really
• 1:15:44
  close to match up and if if Attack and Purdue were to play
• 1:15:47
  in a Nutrifield tomorrow, it would be a toss up.
• 1:15:49
  So it's not, you know, you can't look at, you can't really read
• 1:15:52
  too much into that game, really. You really can't.
• 1:15:55
  And Fresno State was a good team last year, so they were turning
• 1:15:57
  9 guys on defense. They won 10 games last year.
• 1:16:02
  They in fact they won the Mountain West, right?
• 1:16:05
  Did I make that up, Sheldon? They won the mountain.
• 1:16:07
  Or did Boise win the Mountain West last year?
• 1:16:10
  No, Boise, yes President won the mountain.
• 1:16:12
  They won the Mountain West last year, so yeah, they are.
• 1:16:16
  They did play a very good team. So what are the Hokies going to
• 1:16:21
  have to do to win this game? I'm going to let Brian start us
• 1:16:25
  out here. Brian, give us one of the keys
• 1:16:28
  to a hokey victory on Saturday. Yeah, the biggest one is that
• 1:16:33
  we've got to settle down quicker.
• 1:16:34
  We can't have that one quarter of sleepwalking that we saw
• 1:16:39
  against ODU, especially on the offensive side of the ball.
• 1:16:43
  This needs to be more of a game like we saw with Boston College
• 1:16:48
  last year at home where we kind of got out there early, made a
• 1:16:51
  couple plays on defense, made a couple good plays on offense,
• 1:16:55
  get a little bit of a lead and then kind of put the pressure on
• 1:16:58
  them to have to play a little catch up.
• 1:17:00
  I think that's the the recipe for success here.
• 1:17:04
  All right, Tally, what do you think?
• 1:17:06
  What's a hokey key? Yeah, I'll say, you know,
• 1:17:08
  usually I try to be a little bit more conservative, but I'm going
• 1:17:11
  to let let your nuts hang, you know, let your nuts hang.
• 1:17:16
  Brett Pry, you have wide receivers that I don't think
• 1:17:19
  that they can guard. We need to pass to set up the
• 1:17:23
  run. Looks like we were running to
• 1:17:25
  set up the pass in this pass game.
• 1:17:27
  I think hey, let it fly. Find those receipt was early,
• 1:17:31
  spread them out, take a a page out of ODU's book, spread it
• 1:17:35
  out, don't have them so close so we can hit some of these running
• 1:17:38
  lanes. I think if we do that early in
• 1:17:40
  the first quarter, I think we'll put them in, in in in a little
• 1:17:44
  bit of a discomfort area fairly quickly.
• 1:17:48
  Got it. Shelton, what about you?
• 1:17:51
  For me, the biggest thing is just try to shut down Dion
• 1:17:53
  Burks. I think he's by far the biggest
• 1:17:55
  playmaker. I'm not too concerned about
• 1:17:57
  Purdue's run game. I mean, we'll see how it all
• 1:17:58
  plays out. But also you you just got to get
• 1:18:01
  pressure on Hudson Card. I mentioned the pressure stats
• 1:18:03
  from from their game against Fresno.
• 1:18:05
  The offensive line has a lot of weak points, so if you get
• 1:18:08
  pressure on him, Card really, really struggles throwing from
• 1:18:12
  pressure. If you can get to the key, BI
• 1:18:14
  think you'll have a you have a really good chance of winning.
• 1:18:16
  And I think tech will take advantage of a very shoddy
• 1:18:19
  Purdue defense. I'm with Sheldon.
• 1:18:22
  I think you don't let Clark find a rhythm.
• 1:18:23
  We know how Air Raid offenses work is when they get in the
• 1:18:26
  rhythm. Where they popping you on
• 1:18:27
  lateral passes? Short, quick routes.
• 1:18:30
  Eventually it opens up up top and make a move, make a move,
• 1:18:34
  get him uncomfortable. Apr and the Crew go out there,
• 1:18:38
  make a move and you said you're not worried about their run
• 1:18:41
  game, make it non existent. Because an air A-Team like this,
• 1:18:44
  if they get that little bit of run game going, go back to West
• 1:18:47
  Virginia. Last year they got that run game
• 1:18:49
  going. It wore down us and then they
• 1:18:52
  were able to start popping passes later in the game.
• 1:18:55
  So kind of a combination of there of a different number of
• 1:18:58
  things we are talking about for some hokey keys.
• 1:19:01
  But now it is prediction time. Brian is really excited
• 1:19:04
  everybody. He's been working on this all
• 1:19:06
  week. Bring up the big board.
• 1:19:09
  Not only the prediction for the hokey game, but we also have our
• 1:19:12
  big screeners here. Hey, y'all better read this
• 1:19:16
  week. Shit.
• 1:19:16
  Y'all better read, listen and read.
• 1:19:20
  Listen and read it's it's on the board this time, guys.
• 1:19:24
  It's very explicitly. A big board that's not big.
• 1:19:28
  This is that spread, spread. Do y'all understand how many
• 1:19:34
  emails in in, in in Dms that I got from people so I could not
• 1:19:40
  believe even after we won? People were.
• 1:19:44
  Still talking about they were, they were telling.
• 1:19:46
  You, man. I can't believe you're the God
• 1:19:47
  that predicted us to lose. I was like, Oh my God, Sheldon
• 1:19:51
  had people in his Dm's over taking UVA to not lose by more
• 1:19:56
  than 28. Yeah, that was fun and.
• 1:20:00
  Being Bronwyn four and two last week.
• 1:20:02
  I did horrible. I'm scared to even pick.
• 1:20:05
  That's the fun of it. That's the fun of it.
• 1:20:07
  All right, Sheldon, you were not here last week, so you get to
• 1:20:11
  lead the Hokie Purdue predictions.
• 1:20:14
  What do you have? It's going to be a close, low
• 1:20:18
  scoring ball game in my opinion. I like both teams defenses more,
• 1:20:23
  so a little bit more skeptical of these offense, but I've got
• 1:20:26
  the Hokies winning 20 to 17. They will cover by the hair on
• 1:20:30
  their chins. That's just the way I feel.
• 1:20:32
  I think it's going to be a low scoring grudge match and I think
• 1:20:35
  tech's going to come out on top. Alrighty low score 2017.
• 1:20:39
  Tally, what you got? I got the Hokies taking this
• 1:20:43
  game 35 to 24. I think we only didn't we go
• 1:20:46
  over 31 time last year 0 * 0 times.
• 1:20:53
  Well the first two games of the season we're going over 30.
• 1:20:56
  Baby 3524 Hokie win be we all going to be there.
• 1:21:03
  Barry The Corner Podcast As y'all can see, I don't have a
• 1:21:06
  hat on this week. Because I'm I wanted my hair to
• 1:21:09
  breathe because I'm buying all new hats when I get to
• 1:21:12
  Blacksburg. So if you're watching this,
• 1:21:14
  y'all send me places that I can go find cool hats, because I'm
• 1:21:17
  going to pick up about 5 to 10 new hats and he's getting one
• 1:21:21
  new one from me. And I already know about that
• 1:21:24
  way, huh? I already know about that one.
• 1:21:26
  I'm going to have that one on. I'm going to have that one on
• 1:21:28
  next week. There we go.
• 1:21:30
  There we go. All right, my turn next.
• 1:21:32
  Y'all and I'm kind of with Tally.
• 1:21:35
  We're we're similar scores here. I think the Hokies are going to
• 1:21:39
  win this game and I can see this being a 3423 game.
• 1:21:42
  I think we punch it in just as much as we did last week.
• 1:21:45
  I think prop pulls back on being aggressive inside the 15 kicks,
• 1:21:49
  a couple extra field goal and to just be honest, why am I looking
• 1:21:54
  at a team that scored 35 and saying they're going to score
• 1:21:56
  24? I watched this game with Brian
• 1:21:58
  right back here. I'm on the I'm on the I'm on the
• 1:22:00
  easy chair. Brian's kick back on the couch.
• 1:22:04
  Effectively, Purdue had two sustained drives to score
• 1:22:07
  touchdown. They were in a kickoff return
• 1:22:09
  back. They had the 84 yard bomb tally
• 1:22:11
  mentioned earlier. The other 44 yard play to
• 1:22:14
  Burke's. Guess what?
• 1:22:15
  That set up a 10 yard run. They had two sustained drives
• 1:22:18
  for touchdowns. That's why the Hokies and the
• 1:22:20
  defense get it right. Brian, are you as optimistic as
• 1:22:25
  we are? Yeah, I'm right on board there.
• 1:22:27
  I've got the Hokey's pulling out A1 score victory here.
• 1:22:31
  I think the offense is going to keep going.
• 1:22:33
  I think we're going to pit a little bit and as Tally
• 1:22:35
  mentioned that let the past set up the run a little bit.
• 1:22:38
  Kind of start with the the Duts hanging out there and leaning on
• 1:22:42
  your strength a little bit. I think our defense does a a
• 1:22:45
  good job of shutting down the run.
• 1:22:47
  I think we still do lets you know Burks get a little bit of
• 1:22:50
  action done, but they're not going to quite do what they did
• 1:22:53
  against a Fresno. I think we're a little bit
• 1:22:55
  better in the secondary than they are.
• 1:22:57
  I got a final score here of 3124 Hokies, 3124 Hokies.
• 1:23:05
  So there we go. We're all picking the Hokies.
• 1:23:07
  We're all on the optimistic train after the ODU game.
• 1:23:10
  I hope it holds to fruition. Even though all of us are going
• 1:23:15
  to be in Blacksburg, we still are putting up the big screeners
• 1:23:19
  because probably we're gonna be catching some of these, whether
• 1:23:22
  we're sitting at a hotel, friends houses, maybe the bar
• 1:23:25
  after the game, but we've got and well.
• 1:23:28
  Really. That cell service?
• 1:23:29
  You can pick up a game in the stadium now.
• 1:23:32
  Is it that good? Now no.
• 1:23:34
  Don't get your hopes done. You can get a tweet out.
• 1:23:38
  You can get a tweet out now. So I guess that's better than
• 1:23:42
  what we've been doing with where you couldn't get a text out.
• 1:23:44
  So all right, well, let's talk about our big screeners here.
• 1:23:48
  So the first one here is going to be Mr. Brian selection.
• 1:23:52
  Brian is looking at Tulane versus Ole Miss.
• 1:23:56
  This is a 330 kick. So when we potentially could
• 1:23:59
  catch downtown after the Hokies play Ole Miss.
• 1:24:03
  Currently 7 1/2 point favorites. What you got on this one, Brian?
• 1:24:08
  Man, I just like this matchup. I think this is going to be a
• 1:24:11
  very intriguing matchup across the board.
• 1:24:15
  You know, I like Ole Miss, but I think Tulane is going to have
• 1:24:20
  just enough here to make this a really tight when a little
• 1:24:24
  squeaker down the stretch. So I've got Ole Miss winning,
• 1:24:28
  but I've got two lane in the seven and a half there.
• 1:24:32
  So I'll put two lane here on the on the board and Brian, I'm I'm
• 1:24:36
  right with you on that. I think.
• 1:24:37
  I think this is going to be a highly entertaining game to
• 1:24:39
  watch. I think both these offenses can
• 1:24:41
  move the ball. I do think Ole Miss sneaks it.
• 1:24:44
  Probably three to six points, but two lane covers tally.
• 1:24:49
  What about two schools down your way?
• 1:24:51
  Yeah, I'm going to say Ole Miss is going to go ahead and take
• 1:24:54
  this 1-2 Lane may have a cool mascot.
• 1:24:58
  I just don't think they're going to have enough to win or cover.
• 1:25:02
  All righty, Ole Miss there, Sheldon.
• 1:25:05
  Yeah, look, Ole Miss put up 73 points against Mercer the other
• 1:25:11
  day. Now I understand it's Mercer,
• 1:25:13
  FCS, blah, blah, blah. But I watched FCS football, so I
• 1:25:18
  feel someone qualified to say Mercer is a good team.
• 1:25:20
  They've got a good defense and 73 points, 73 points.
• 1:25:23
  So give me Ole Miss. I'm taking the points by the
• 1:25:25
  way, when we probably should be looking at on this.
• 1:25:27
  Go ahead and put Sheldon's up there.
• 1:25:29
  Ole Miss cover. The Over Under is only 66 1/2 on
• 1:25:34
  this game. That just seems criminally low
• 1:25:37
  because Tulane last week dropped 37 in their opening game.
• 1:25:42
  So there's our bets. But look at the over under 66
• 1:25:46
  1/2. I think we'll probably shoot up
• 1:25:47
  to 74 game day. All right, let's go out West.
• 1:25:51
  This is Tally's pick for the week team in his home state.
• 1:25:55
  Auburn versus Cal. Auburn on the road playing a
• 1:25:58
  1030 game. Tally's going to be passed out
• 1:26:00
  at the hotel trying to watch this Auburn 6 1/2 point
• 1:26:04
  favorites. Tyler, what you got?
• 1:26:06
  Man, I was a little skeptical about Auburn going all the way
• 1:26:09
  across the across the globe over here to go play Kyle, our new,
• 1:26:14
  our new ACC mates over there. So I thought this was an
• 1:26:18
  intriguing matchup. I was very close to taking Kyle,
• 1:26:22
  but I'm going to take Auburn in that in that matchup.
• 1:26:25
  I know a couple of guys that's down there playing in Auburn and
• 1:26:28
  I got to watch them, got to watch that game.
• 1:26:32
  This weekend they've got a freshman named Jeremiah Cobb.
• 1:26:35
  If you guys haven't seen him play, he was a four-star out of
• 1:26:40
  Montgomery Catholic. My first cousin is was his high
• 1:26:43
  school coach. He is a phenomenal athlete.
• 1:26:46
  Think he had maybe about 60 yards and a touchdown in this
• 1:26:50
  past weekend. So Jeremiah Cobb y'all go check
• 1:26:53
  them out Auburn. I think they're going to take
• 1:26:54
  this one. All right, Auburn takes in
• 1:26:56
  cover. Sheldon, what you got on this
• 1:26:58
  one? Last week, the PAC 12 went
• 1:27:01
  undefeated in nonconference play.
• 1:27:04
  Now some people look at that set and say, well, the PAC 12 must
• 1:27:07
  be back. I would look at that set and say
• 1:27:09
  regression to the mean is coming.
• 1:27:11
  So with that being said, the analyst in me will take Auburn
• 1:27:15
  to give the PAC 12 a little dose of reality.
• 1:27:20
  Alrighty. Go and put mine up there, Brian.
• 1:27:26
  I'm with them. I just.
• 1:27:27
  I know. I know that.
• 1:27:29
  I heard that's that too. What was it Saturday night PAC
• 1:27:34
  1213 and O 14 and O in play. I just, you know, Hugh Freeze
• 1:27:39
  coming there. I just don't see that.
• 1:27:41
  I think Auburn probably gets slow.
• 1:27:46
  Hold on before I finish my statement here.
• 1:27:49
  King Leo. Virginia Tech.
• 1:27:56
  Let me put that one down. I think.
• 1:27:58
  I mean Auburn. Might pretty good, pretty good.
• 1:28:01
  Auburn might get to a slow start, but I think eventually
• 1:28:04
  the talent will take over and I think they will easily cover the
• 1:28:06
  six and a half. Yeah, I'm right there with you
• 1:28:10
  War Eagle bitches. I think that, you know, Cal
• 1:28:16
  scored a lot of points against the Mean Green out there in
• 1:28:18
  North Texas, but I think that. You know Hugh Freeze is going to
• 1:28:22
  have a game plan for that. I think there's going to be a
• 1:28:25
  pretty decently high scoring game and I think Auburn's going
• 1:28:28
  to cover in the end. So yeah, I'm taking Auburn as
• 1:28:29
  well. All righty.
• 1:28:31
  All right, we flipped down to Waco and Shelton's big Screener
• 1:28:35
  of the Week, although it's going to be going on during the game,
• 1:28:38
  so he we better have good sale service so Shelton can watch the
• 1:28:42
  game. Little Screener, Utah, Baylor,
• 1:28:45
  Utah Rd. Favorite 7 1/2 points.
• 1:28:50
  Yeah, this is an interesting matchup.
• 1:28:52
  You've got a Baylor team that just saw Blitz Creek from Texas
• 1:28:55
  State the other week. They've got a hot shot offensive
• 1:28:58
  coordinator and head coach that put up 42 points.
• 1:29:01
  So they were looking for a bounce back season.
• 1:29:03
  Haven't quite gotten it so far. And then Utah won against
• 1:29:07
  Florida. With their backup quarterback
• 1:29:09
  Kim Rising, still out with an injury as he's recovering from
• 1:29:12
  that that a CL tear. That being said, I think Utah's
• 1:29:15
  got a really a really well-rounded team.
• 1:29:17
  They're playing at home. I'll take the Utes to start the
• 1:29:20
  Season 2 and O alrighty tally, What do you got on this one?
• 1:29:25
  You don't watch Utah kick Florida's ass all over the
• 1:29:28
  field. I'm going to take Utah.
• 1:29:30
  I don't got no analytics. I don't got all the shelve, Made
• 1:29:33
  it sound cool. I'm just going to say you talk
• 1:29:35
  of they whoop Florida's ass they did with Florida that Brian.
• 1:29:40
  I'm I'm sticking with our team here.
• 1:29:43
  I'm going with Utah. I think Utah is probably one of
• 1:29:46
  the eight best teams in the country especially once they get
• 1:29:49
  back to full strength there. I like the way that they handled
• 1:29:53
  Florida. I was expecting that.
• 1:29:56
  Yeah I I I picked them last week but I was expecting a little bit
• 1:29:59
  of a of a tighter matchup they they really handled Florida
• 1:30:02
  pretty well. So give me the youths.
• 1:30:07
  We are in agreement. Again, I'm on Utah on this one
• 1:30:09
  as well. Lay the seven and a half.
• 1:30:12
  I think the offensive Utah continues to roll and to be
• 1:30:15
  honest, Baylor got 31 against the Texas State last week.
• 1:30:21
  I don't think they're seeing 15 this week 30303017 Utah.
• 1:30:29
  Alrighty. Oh, I'm up next.
• 1:30:31
  You're up next. I'm up next.
• 1:30:33
  I pulled out the Miami versus Texas A and M, which is a 330
• 1:30:39
  kick which we potentially could watch before we leave Blacksburg
• 1:30:42
  on Saturday night. Brian.
• 1:30:44
  Little dinner, Little Tots rail drive back 3 1/2 hours, Top rail
• 1:30:50
  Tots rail 10:30. I'm 10 minutes.
• 1:30:53
  I'm 10 minutes away from the field, so I'm you. 10 minutes
• 1:30:55
  away from the field is Sheldon. Are you driving back Saturday
• 1:30:58
  night or you staying up? I got drive back, Okay.
• 1:31:02
  You gotta drive back as well. So we're all gonna have that.
• 1:31:04
  We're gonna catch dinner together.
• 1:31:05
  All right. Miami, Texas A and M, Miami four
• 1:31:10
  point home dog to the Aggies. I go back to the game last year
• 1:31:15
  where Miami probably should have won down Texas A and M and they
• 1:31:18
  didn't. And I don't know.
• 1:31:19
  I just don't believe in Jim Beau Fisher.
• 1:31:21
  I think he's one of the biggest Vegas coaches out there.
• 1:31:24
  Yes, I know what I'm just being for real.
• 1:31:27
  The guy's one of the fakeest coaches out there.
• 1:31:29
  I don't know if Miami will win, but I think 4 is too much delay
• 1:31:33
  to give to Miami. Give me Miami with the points.
• 1:31:36
  I haven't know whose clue is going to actually win the game
• 1:31:38
  out right, though. All right.
• 1:31:43
  All right. So we got Miami up there on the
• 1:31:45
  board. You know what I will shock Y'all
• 1:31:48
  a little bit. I'm going to A and M here.
• 1:31:56
  Yeah. I think they getting getting
• 1:31:59
  Connor Weidman in there. Good first game, 18 to 23236,
• 1:32:04
  five touchdowns. I know it was the Lobos, but it
• 1:32:07
  looks like the biggest thing that they had problems with last
• 1:32:10
  year was quarterback play. If they figured that out then
• 1:32:13
  that could be a somewhat dangerous team.
• 1:32:15
  So give me, give me, give me A and M here.
• 1:32:19
  All righty, Tally. I got to go Miami, man.
• 1:32:22
  I got to go Miami. I just think that, you know, the
• 1:32:25
  ACC, we have to prove something this year.
• 1:32:28
  SEC. You see what Mack Brown did to
• 1:32:30
  Shane Beamer's face. That's what we're doing all SEC
• 1:32:34
  opponents all year, just letting y'all know.
• 1:32:38
  Squeeze, grab, heard round the world.
• 1:32:40
  Face squeezing, mushing your face.
• 1:32:43
  Miami. Now that's just what an old man
• 1:32:46
  does to younger kids. I mean, turn you away.
• 1:32:48
  Yeah, she'll do you guys. Yeah.
• 1:32:51
  I know people are gonna say I'm crazy.
• 1:32:53
  I think that you was back. They totally took Ohio to the
• 1:32:57
  woodshed last Saturday. I know it's a it's a Mac team.
• 1:33:02
  But look, that was a time to win.
• 1:33:03
  So I'm taking Miami. I think they're good football
• 1:33:05
  team this year. Alrighty.
• 1:33:08
  Yes. I don't trust.
• 1:33:08
  I don't trust Jimbo either. There you go.
• 1:33:10
  See, it's Jimbo. Nobody trusts him.
• 1:33:12
  All right, there are two more on the screen here.
• 1:33:15
  One is probably the biggest matchup in the A/C with
• 1:33:18
  effectively the ACC this week in NC State and Notre Dame.
• 1:33:24
  And so for this one, Notre Dame, 7 1/2 point home favorite, by
• 1:33:29
  the way. Ole Miss or or Tulane.
• 1:33:34
  Home dog. Cal.
• 1:33:36
  Home dog. Baylor.
• 1:33:37
  Home dog. We got nothing but home dogs
• 1:33:40
  here so far. So Sheldon, no.
• 1:33:44
  NC State. Notre Dame.
• 1:33:46
  Who is your pick? Yeah, I'm taking Notre Dame, but
• 1:33:51
  not with the hydrogate of confidence.
• 1:33:52
  I just like Sam Hartman. He's a stud man.
• 1:33:55
  I mean, he's just lit up Navy. I know Navy's got some issues,
• 1:33:57
  but that was a dominant performance.
• 1:33:59
  NC State. I feel like the other team that
• 1:34:02
  just kind of, you know, always falls flat in big games.
• 1:34:04
  So I'll take. I'll take Notre Dame.
• 1:34:08
  You got Tally. Yeah, I'm going to take Notre
• 1:34:10
  Dame in this game as well, just like Sheldon said.
• 1:34:12
  I've been watching Sam Hartman for a long time.
• 1:34:16
  Kids are stubbed, man. I just think that they'll.
• 1:34:19
  I wasn't too impressed with a North Carolina State last week.
• 1:34:22
  I mean, every week is different, but I'm going to take Notre Dame
• 1:34:24
  in this one. I'm with exactly what Tally said
• 1:34:27
  right there. Watching NC State play UConn up
• 1:34:30
  in Hartford, they did not look good, especially on the
• 1:34:35
  offensive side of the ball. I think the defense is going to
• 1:34:38
  be solid, but y'all just mentioned they have Sam Hartman,
• 1:34:41
  they have weapons, they have a better offensive line.
• 1:34:43
  And I think 7 1/2 is just enough points to take because I think
• 1:34:47
  this is like a 10 point game. Probably entertaining.
• 1:34:49
  Ain't going on while the Hokies are playing, but I can't see NC
• 1:34:53
  State. He's keeping quite up with Notre
• 1:34:58
  Dame. Yeah, I'll finish this one out
• 1:35:01
  and say I'm right there with everybody here.
• 1:35:04
  Some of the same reasons. Sam Hartman I think is going to
• 1:35:07
  be one of the Heisman finalists this year.
• 1:35:12
  I think he's got that level of play with with the with the
• 1:35:16
  offensive line play that Notre Dame has, with the weapons that
• 1:35:18
  they have. I think he's going to really be
• 1:35:20
  in play for that that trip. So give me Notre Dame.
• 1:35:25
  I I think it's going to be about a 10 point victory for Notre
• 1:35:28
  Dame. Alrighty and well, the big one
• 1:35:31
  is Saturday night down in Tuscaloosa, AL, Texas.
• 1:35:37
  Game day's obviously going to be there and it is a big game.
• 1:35:39
  I mean, we are college football fans.
• 1:35:41
  We we're not just sitting here and going to crap on things
• 1:35:44
  because that is a big game. It was a big game last year,
• 1:35:46
  high noon down to Texas, where that turned into a game that
• 1:35:51
  Texas just about got Alabama. Now in this case, Tuscaloosa.
• 1:35:55
  Only a 7 point favorite is Alabama, who's coming off a I
• 1:36:00
  mean it's it's technically a thrashing, but it took a while
• 1:36:03
  to get them going versus Middle Tennessee State.
• 1:36:06
  Brian Who are you taking in this game with the points?
• 1:36:12
  Yeah, I think this is kind of a nobrainer.
• 1:36:14
  I think Texas, you know, we saw that slow start.
• 1:36:17
  They don't have a dynamic player like B John Robinson in anymore.
• 1:36:21
  I really think that Alabama's going to take this one over.
• 1:36:24
  Start to finish. Give me Bama Texas Horns down
• 1:36:33
  penalty sportsman like conduct on Siegler. 15 yards.
• 1:36:38
  I'm actually right there with you, Brian.
• 1:36:42
  I just don't trust Texas. I don't.
• 1:36:45
  And it's not so much their offense.
• 1:36:47
  I just think they're going to be sort of.
• 1:36:49
  I just feel like you talk about Bijan being there last year and
• 1:36:52
  remember they still it was still more of a 2320 type game down in
• 1:36:57
  Austin last year. I just don't trust their
• 1:37:00
  defense. I don't and I know yes, they won
• 1:37:03
  like 37 to 10 last week, but who are they playing?
• 1:37:07
  We were trying pieces of that game.
• 1:37:09
  Rice. It was Rice 18, Daniels 60 year
• 1:37:13
  who was supposed to be a great quarterback coming out as it
• 1:37:15
  Rice right now. And they got throttled by Texas.
• 1:37:19
  Not a big start, but give me Bama, give me the 7th.
• 1:37:23
  I think it'll probably be an entertaining game, but I I can't
• 1:37:26
  see Texas winning this one we're covering.
• 1:37:29
  Yeah, I got Texas covering. Actually, man, I don't know if
• 1:37:32
  they will actually win. Fuck it.
• 1:37:35
  I'm gonna say Texas wins a close one.
• 1:37:39
  Alabama is a little bit, you know, they're a little different
• 1:37:41
  this year. I know they've got some.
• 1:37:43
  They've got some injuries on the back end that some of the fans
• 1:37:45
  have been talking about. I'm not sure.
• 1:37:47
  Of the names, if you go look them up, I'm sure you can find
• 1:37:50
  it. They got a couple of injuries
• 1:37:51
  there. They got a wire to see what it's
• 1:37:52
  been out that they're waiting on.
• 1:37:54
  I think he's got a hip something going on with his hip and
• 1:37:57
  Alabama just they're always going to be a good team.
• 1:38:00
  But I don't think they have a star power that they they
• 1:38:02
  usually have. You know they're breaking in a
• 1:38:04
  new quarterback and he didn't have to do shit for real last
• 1:38:07
  week because they were fundamentally Middle Tennessee
• 1:38:09
  state. I think just what Texas have in
• 1:38:13
  athletes that can be on the field against them.
• 1:38:16
  It's gonna be a little bit of a different look.
• 1:38:18
  So I'm gonna give it to Texas. I'm gonna say Texas wins a close
• 1:38:21
  one. Texas wins a close one.
• 1:38:25
  Sheldon closes out with our big Screener here.
• 1:38:29
  Brian put tallies up. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:38:34
  Hard to bet against Nick Saban. I mean, I actually think Texas
• 1:38:37
  was a good team last year that got really unlucky.
• 1:38:40
  You know, the Alabama game was a perfect example.
• 1:38:42
  Like they had a feeling like it breaks.
• 1:38:43
  They were at home though. They had to win at their back
• 1:38:45
  and lost a close game. I just can't go against Nick
• 1:38:48
  Saban at home. I feel like this is type of the
• 1:38:50
  game where, you know, Alabama's up by 7:00 late in the third
• 1:38:53
  quarter and then they end up winning by 24.
• 1:38:55
  That's just, that's just how I look at it.
• 1:38:56
  So I'll take, I'll take them And the points.
• 1:39:00
  Taking them and the points. So Brian says the graphic he was
• 1:39:05
  working with froze up there. Still good.
• 1:39:08
  We're agreeing on a lot of things.
• 1:39:10
  Boys, has anything broken since we fired Twitter or since we've
• 1:39:16
  been on here? Well, for me, for me and Brian,
• 1:39:19
  Christian Wood is a Laker for two years.
• 1:39:22
  Who's Christian Wood? Hey.
• 1:39:23
  Christian Wood is a is a big man that played for The Mavericks
• 1:39:27
  and he's going to be a good backup to bring in.
• 1:39:31
  When we need a D to have a little rest.
• 1:39:33
  So all my Laker fans are pretty excited about getting getting
• 1:39:38
  him over there with the Lakers. We needed some youth.
• 1:39:41
  All right, real quick, this is not on the rundown, but I just
• 1:39:44
  want to get y'all. Just gut opinion.
• 1:39:47
  Most telling story of the college football weekend.
• 1:39:50
  Sheldon you. Tell me this upcoming weekend.
• 1:39:54
  No, no, no. Last weekend.
• 1:39:56
  Last weekend? Just a lot of craziness, I mean.
• 1:40:00
  I don't. I think one thing I'd I'd be
• 1:40:03
  interested to see is like do we have a truly elite team this
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  year because Georgia they didn't always upgrade against UT
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  Martin. You know Bama had Bama had some
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  struggles. I just don't know if there's
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  like a like a you know, Megatron, Death Slayer, you
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  know, 3000 like we had like Georgia last year, Alabama in
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  2020 or Clemson 2018. I just, I don't think you have
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  that truly elite, you know, championship level team.
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  We're going to find out soon, but I I think this could be a
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  situation where there might be a little bit more parity at the
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  top in 2023. But we'll see.
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  So I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, hit on a couple of things,
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  but I'm going to try to make it quick.
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  Number one, and I think we've seen the end of Clemson's
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  dynasty or whatever they had going on.
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  I don't think that they will be as elite as they have been in
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  the past, partly because their coach.
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  Doesn't like to use the transport portal And then also I
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  just think that with the transport portal and how college
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  football NIL is today, there's stuff more spread out.
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  You're seeing some some elite talent at other places.
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  Case in point, I'm going to bring up Colorado.
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  I mean, Jesus Christ, everybody's eyes was glued to
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  that game. I think some people will put a
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  little bit more stock into it than they probably should.
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  But for Dion to go out there and do what he did, I think they
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  made one last one game last year to have that much height.
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  He's on every commercial that I've seen, his boys was playing
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  super hard. They're ranked now.
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  So just the the first week of college football to see Clemson
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  go down and Colorado to win in the fashion that did.
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  Man, college football was back. Segal.
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  The death of the new spring church mafia, that's what.
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  That's what's happening this year.
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  That's what's happening this year.
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  We are seeing the the return of Clemsoning.
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  We are. We are seeing the return of a
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  team that did not adapt with the times by pure, pure hubris.
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  By Dabo Swinney. I think we're seeing that the
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  chickens are coming home to roost a little bit.
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  This is going to be a rough year for the Clemson Tigers overall.
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  I'm not saying they're going to win like five or six games, but
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  I mean they could easily take three or four losses this year
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  easily. Please, I hope they do all
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  right. Y'all had all your fun with
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  Clemson. I'm I'm going to look on a
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  little bit different. Florida State is for real.
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  They may not be a wrote it down here Megatron Death Slayer 3000.
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  Yes, that's the first. That is the phrase anytime the
• 1:42:54
  team we're going to refer to is that.
• 1:42:56
  But I think what they did in the second-half to LSU says a lot.
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  LSU is a good team and I this is where you know Tally you
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  mentioned the SEC. I swear to God, I I I turn on
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  Monday morning. Well they didn't have their
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  starting defensive tackle. You lost by 24.1.
• 1:43:12
  Starting defensive tackle ain't making up 24 points.
• 1:43:14
  It might be a 2 score game. It ain't going to make up 24
• 1:43:17
  points. So shut you stinking mouths
• 1:43:19
  about that. I think FSU is bad.
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  Back I hope, man. We are rolling going into there
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  in week six. I really do.
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  Just because you know you always want to.
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  Stack make it look respectable, man.
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  Just, yeah. Again, I don't have any.
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  I already said that's going to be a.
• 1:43:34
  If it's only 24 points, then this make it look we played as
• 1:43:38
  good as the number five team in the country.
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  Man, I want to win, don't get me wrong.
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  Stop, stop. Don't get him going.
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  Preseason rankings. We'll be here 30 minutes.
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  And Sheldon's got an early morning meeting.
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