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- 0:01Speaker 1: Jaffuars. Did you don't Jack what Jack Warris? Did you
- 0:05Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time? Bryan Sex steps that. John says it
- 0:11Speaker 1: actually Jaguarris Drive Time starts right now. Good morning, sun
- 0:18Speaker 1: is up on a cool, crisp day. Love the weather.
- 0:22Speaker 1: I hope you do too. It's not lasting. By the way,
- 0:24Speaker 1: it's gonna be eighty degrees on Sunday when the Jaguars
- 0:28Speaker 1: take on the Colts. Here at t i A a
- 0:29Speaker 1: bank field, it's time for Jags Drive Time, brought to
- 0:32Speaker 1: you by the du Bald Motor Company, who invite you
- 0:35Speaker 1: to experience the Duval Difference at four locations on cassid
- 0:37Speaker 1: Avenue and Atlantic Boulevard here in Jacksonville and down the
- 0:41Speaker 1: road in Gainesville. Hi, John, what you didn't see on
- 0:44Speaker 1: that part bridge shop is there's a bleep bleep stopped
- 0:51Speaker 1: right on the other side of that. It's jamming up
- 0:54Speaker 1: traff lee blete bleep bleeped it. Oh you did? Yeah?
- 0:59Speaker 1: Say that went by? It was I don't handle myself
- 1:04Speaker 1: well in that situation, but the pressure that phrase the
- 1:07Speaker 1: world revolves around you, Ever, the world revolves around me.
- 1:11Speaker 1: If you guys waited for yeah, yeah, we did. Yeh.
- 1:13Speaker 1: The pressure to be here. Speaking of the world revolving
- 1:15Speaker 1: around an individual, H well, I was thinking more of
- 1:20Speaker 1: the Jaguars recently suspended running back for that who yesterday
- 1:25Speaker 1: had his appeal heard and to no one's surprised, the
- 1:30Speaker 1: suspension was upheld. And I'm going to say I didn't
- 1:34Speaker 1: think there was any chance that James Thrash, who was
- 1:36Speaker 1: the Special Master, the former Eagle and a Redskins wide receiver.
- 1:41Speaker 1: I didn't think it was anyway that he was going
- 1:43Speaker 1: to turn that over. What a great job, special mass,
- 1:46Speaker 1: special Master. I could cover so much this morning. I
- 1:50Speaker 1: should be special Master. You should not be any that
- 1:55Speaker 1: a special Master of yourself. That might be it um.
- 1:58Speaker 1: But I was gonna say I would be very, very
- 2:00Speaker 1: disappointed in the National Football League if they allowed Leonard
- 2:04Speaker 1: for Nette to play on Sunday suspended to be suspended.
- 2:09Speaker 1: And I would hope that if they didn't suspend him,
- 2:13Speaker 1: that the Jaguars would because because and let me go here,
- 2:16Speaker 1: real quids in because he cost his team to win.
- 2:19Speaker 1: I have no doubt and he admitted that, I have
- 2:22Speaker 1: no doubt that if he stays in the game and
- 2:25Speaker 1: they overturned the touchdown and he has it on third
- 2:28Speaker 1: or pardon me, first and goal at the one that
- 2:30Speaker 1: he scores his third touchdown. Right, I have no doubt
- 2:33Speaker 1: because I was on the field, felt the momentum changing
- 2:35Speaker 1: that the Jaguars win that game. If the Jaguars win
- 2:38Speaker 1: that game, I think that Nate Hackett is still the quarterback,
- 2:43Speaker 1: the coordinator. I think Blake is still the starting quarterback, right,
- 2:47Speaker 1: I mean, no, no, you don't. So he deserves to
- 2:52Speaker 1: be suspended. Hopefully he learns from this and becomes a
- 2:56Speaker 1: better teammate. But as I read that this morning, I
- 2:59Speaker 1: thought the arrogance of appealing that. Now, maybe he did
- 3:02Speaker 1: it for legal financial reasons, because you know, when you
- 3:05Speaker 1: get this sort of suspension, teams can come after your
- 3:07Speaker 1: bonus money and things like that. So maybe he did
- 3:09Speaker 1: it for that. But still I thought there was no
- 3:12Speaker 1: reason at all for the league to let him play.
- 3:14Speaker 1: And I hope that that the message is sent. I
- 3:17Speaker 1: thought that there was a chance that the league might
- 3:20Speaker 1: not suspend them only for this reason, not because they
- 3:24Speaker 1: shouldn't have, but because the league doesn't love setting precedents,
- 3:31Speaker 1: And now there's a Now you wonder if this will
- 3:35Speaker 1: lead toward a precedent of if you leave the bench,
- 3:39Speaker 1: where's the gray area, where's the line? But so I
- 3:44Speaker 1: thought there was a chance they might not suspend him,
- 3:46Speaker 1: but only for that reason, simply because and I thought
- 3:50Speaker 1: that if they didn't that the fine would be enormous,
- 3:53Speaker 1: the equivalent of a game check or whatever that is.
- 3:56Speaker 1: Or perhaps you might not want to punish the team
- 3:59Speaker 1: and just punish a player, which is sometimes what you
- 4:01Speaker 1: do when you're wanting to just fine. But there is
- 4:06Speaker 1: once the league decided to find and to suspend, I
- 4:11Speaker 1: didn't think it was any way it was gonna be
- 4:13Speaker 1: overturned and anything, it should have been overturned because the
- 4:16Speaker 1: difference was in the end. And John Ronnyon said this
- 4:20Speaker 1: in the letter, the malicious intent. I don't think he
- 4:22Speaker 1: phrased it that way. But leaving the bench, he left
- 4:25Speaker 1: the bench with the idea he was going to fight,
- 4:26Speaker 1: not be a piece, right and clear, and I clearly
- 4:29Speaker 1: was not a peacemaker once he got there. And I
- 4:31Speaker 1: think when you put those two together, uh, my guess
- 4:34Speaker 1: is what they saw when they were reviewing it was
- 4:37Speaker 1: pretty evident. And you said arrogance with the appeal, and
- 4:40Speaker 1: I agree that when we all saw that he was
- 4:41Speaker 1: appealing the decision. You're like, why, it's very clear that
- 4:44Speaker 1: what you did broke the rules. You see all the
- 4:47Speaker 1: layouts of it. The appeal was almost but you usually
- 4:51Speaker 1: you usually don't have this. It still feel arrogant, but
- 4:54Speaker 1: I understand why they did it on fine. I mean,
- 4:57Speaker 1: most guys who get fine free anything, I have a
- 5:02Speaker 1: quiet appeals process that we never hear about because it's
- 5:04Speaker 1: an eight thousand dollar fine, which for you and me
- 5:06Speaker 1: would be a big deal. For them, they just pay
- 5:08Speaker 1: it and move on and it it's not a headline.
- 5:10Speaker 1: This was a headline because it was a suspension. If
- 5:13Speaker 1: anyone out there thinks, that's just piling on, and I'm
- 5:15Speaker 1: not sure if anyone does or not. This is the
- 5:17Speaker 1: jaguars best offensive player by quite a distance from the
- 5:22Speaker 1: next one. He played perhaps his most complete game I
- 5:26Speaker 1: thought of his career. He was dominant right for the
- 5:30Speaker 1: first time since they drafted him. He felt like that
- 5:34Speaker 1: kind of back, that that take control of the game
- 5:38Speaker 1: kind of back. He was doing it. I thought he
- 5:40Speaker 1: got close to that against Pittsburgh regular season last year.
- 5:44Speaker 1: But really, except from the ninety yard run, he was
- 5:47Speaker 1: having a good game, not a fantastic game. Well, the
- 5:50Speaker 1: jump over the top of this fell completely different. But
- 5:54Speaker 1: this fell completely different. And I also thought Brian I
- 5:57Speaker 1: made this point on Monday, it not only felt different
- 6:00Speaker 1: for the first time backed up another game that was
- 6:03Speaker 1: really really good, because I thought he was good against
- 6:08Speaker 1: I'm John Blank the Steelers last week, so it was
- 6:12Speaker 1: it was. It was two games in a row, which
- 6:14Speaker 1: he really hadn't done last year. He had the huge
- 6:17Speaker 1: games back to back against the Rams and the Steelers,
- 6:20Speaker 1: but the Rams game was a seventy five yeard run
- 6:22Speaker 1: and nothing else. This was the first time he had
- 6:25Speaker 1: done it back to back where you thought to yourself, Okay,
- 6:27Speaker 1: this is why they drafted him. Uh, it's too bad
- 6:32Speaker 1: he won't play well. You know. Malie Jackson said it
- 6:36Speaker 1: on Monday, Ashley and you were standing right there. Um,
- 6:39Speaker 1: he said, the kid needs to grow up. And for
- 6:42Speaker 1: those of us who are around here in the locker
- 6:44Speaker 1: room over the last two months, as he walked, walked
- 6:46Speaker 1: in and out, sauntered in and out, I felt it.
- 6:48Speaker 1: I felt like the kid didn't have enough perspective on
- 6:52Speaker 1: who he is and what he has done. Now. Who
- 6:55Speaker 1: he is is a kid that's been a star since
- 6:57Speaker 1: he was in seventh and eighth, Greg, But when you
- 7:00Speaker 1: get to the National Football League, it's about what you
- 7:03Speaker 1: do here, not what you did in college. And hopefully
- 7:06Speaker 1: this takes him and brings him back down a notch
- 7:10Speaker 1: because if the player comes back focused the player that
- 7:13Speaker 1: I saw on the field in Buffalo, who now that's
- 7:17Speaker 1: something he can carry this team and they need him to.
- 7:20Speaker 1: He's got to get some perspective though. And I think
- 7:22Speaker 1: Brian the last not five games, the last four games, Uh,
- 7:29Speaker 1: if he plays like he does, aink, they're important for
- 7:33Speaker 1: him in the franchise. Uh. And that may be the
- 7:35Speaker 1: one spot where you can say that if he plays
- 7:39Speaker 1: the last four games like he did the last two,
- 7:42Speaker 1: then the idea of I want to say, building around
- 7:47Speaker 1: him because you've got to get the passing game going.
- 7:49Speaker 1: But you feel maybe a little different than you did
- 7:53Speaker 1: in the last even season and a half about truly
- 7:56Speaker 1: saying this is something that this is a building block
- 8:00Speaker 1: that we can win with. I don't think you knew
- 8:02Speaker 1: that before the last two games, but he's got a
- 8:04Speaker 1: show for the last four and you know you were
- 8:06Speaker 1: here John and and the FRED comparison is always going
- 8:09Speaker 1: to come back with this and then close until now. No, no, no,
- 8:11Speaker 1: But here's the thing. I'm going off the field with Fred. Though.
- 8:14Speaker 1: There was a moment where Fred had the gold grill right,
- 8:17Speaker 1: he was making a statement with that. He was eating
- 8:19Speaker 1: fast food, and he was driving a Suzuki Samur had
- 8:22Speaker 1: a little you know, rice rocket um uh motorcycle, and
- 8:27Speaker 1: he was kind of living that flamboyant sort of style.
- 8:30Speaker 1: And at some point that turned. Somebody got to him,
- 8:32Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, he became a pro. He
- 8:34Speaker 1: took this out and started speaking clearly with the media
- 8:37Speaker 1: because it him important to him. He started eating and
- 8:39Speaker 1: taking care of his body because he realized that if
- 8:41Speaker 1: he didn't, he wasn't going to stay on the field.
- 8:43Speaker 1: And then he did something really really important. He took
- 8:46Speaker 1: all the things that were away from football, like the motorcycle,
- 8:49Speaker 1: and he focused on football, and he became a star,
- 8:52Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame caliber star. And I wondered on
- 8:56Speaker 1: last night in particular, I wondered if maybe this isn't
- 8:58Speaker 1: that turning point for him where he can't take its
- 9:01Speaker 1: incredible talent and potential and put all the other stuff,
- 9:06Speaker 1: the instagrams of the private jet and all of that
- 9:09Speaker 1: nonsense aside and focus on being the best player he
- 9:12Speaker 1: can be. Maybe this is that moment in the midst
- 9:15Speaker 1: of all that crap right now that feels like a
- 9:17Speaker 1: dumpster fire right now, Maybe that moment shines through, needs
- 9:21Speaker 1: to Yeah, it's an opportunity to say the least. All right,
- 9:24Speaker 1: let's go with it. Big things, all right, Big thing
- 9:26Speaker 1: one is today. Today is a big day. It's the
- 9:28Speaker 1: first day that we're going to see Cody Kussler get
- 9:30Speaker 1: the first snaps at quarterback on the practice fields. The
- 9:32Speaker 1: first day we're gonna see Scott Milanovich called the plays
- 9:35Speaker 1: on the practice field. It's also the first day that
- 9:37Speaker 1: we're going to be in the locker room today focusing
- 9:39Speaker 1: on what Cody Kussler has to say. It's changed. He'll
- 9:43Speaker 1: be interesting. Board is gonna be in the locker room
- 9:46Speaker 1: as well. He will. It'll be very interesting to see
- 9:48Speaker 1: how he handles the situation. I think, knowing him, he'll
- 9:50Speaker 1: handle it like a pro. Yeah, Blake will handle it fine. Um,
- 9:54Speaker 1: you can almost write what he'll say already. Uh, Kessler,
- 9:59Speaker 1: I'm sure he I'm sure fine. He's he started six
- 10:02Speaker 1: games in the NFL. He believes that he's a starting
- 10:05Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. He has that confidence and he'll
- 10:08Speaker 1: handle it right. Uh as is the case with four
- 10:13Speaker 1: NET maybe not quite as high profile. But how he
- 10:15Speaker 1: plays over the last four or the last five games
- 10:17Speaker 1: Cody Kesler, I don't think it will change whether they
- 10:21Speaker 1: go get a quarterback next year, because I think they're
- 10:23Speaker 1: going to do that in the draft. But if he
- 10:25Speaker 1: plays well, then you feel better about the prospect. Maybe
- 10:30Speaker 1: you start him early until a rookie is ready. Maybe
- 10:32Speaker 1: that plays into it. But I think how he plays
- 10:35Speaker 1: over the last five games. Obviously if he if he
- 10:37Speaker 1: comes out and it's bad, then you feel not good
- 10:40Speaker 1: about doing that. So do you have a sense of
- 10:43Speaker 1: who he is as a quarterback? Do you? He started
- 10:46Speaker 1: eight games in Cleveland and that that was on a
- 10:48Speaker 1: team that had no talent around him whatsoever. Although without
- 10:51Speaker 1: Leonard and with the offensive line beat up, it's not
- 10:54Speaker 1: it's not a distant situation. Um, I just don't know
- 10:57Speaker 1: that I have a sense of what kind of a
- 10:58Speaker 1: quarterback he can be. Not really. He had the look
- 11:02Speaker 1: of a during the preseason, even against the Texans, of
- 11:07Speaker 1: a backup, and by that I mean not much outside
- 11:12Speaker 1: the box. So they're the one touchdown against the Texans
- 11:14Speaker 1: was a nice play on a scramble that he threw
- 11:15Speaker 1: the uh to t J Yeldon. Um looked obviously very
- 11:20Speaker 1: committed to running the offense, making sure you do everything right.
- 11:23Speaker 1: A little uh, maybe a little mechanical. I don't know
- 11:27Speaker 1: if I'm reaching for the right word, but you know,
- 11:29Speaker 1: when you first get into a situation, you're making sure
- 11:32Speaker 1: you ran what was running practice. Very deliberate. I guess
- 11:36Speaker 1: it's better than deliberate than uh. Mechanical. Is not a
- 11:40Speaker 1: knock because he was accurate. He played well. And what
- 11:43Speaker 1: you hope is that over five games you see some looseness,
- 11:49Speaker 1: some some feel for the games, some ability to change
- 11:51Speaker 1: all those things that a quarterback has to do. There's
- 11:53Speaker 1: a reason why I can't do it. He's never had
- 11:55Speaker 1: a chance to do it. Here we'll see and Um.
- 12:00Speaker 1: There is an element with the backup quarterbacks often where
- 12:04Speaker 1: what you see is a lot of they dropped back
- 12:07Speaker 1: and then the rush starts to get there, and it's
- 12:12Speaker 1: a rollout and if they're out of bounds or a rollout,
- 12:15Speaker 1: get away and take the safe throat. Um. That's understandable
- 12:20Speaker 1: because you're a backup and you're trying to make sure
- 12:23Speaker 1: you make a play, you're trying to make sure you
- 12:24Speaker 1: don't lose yardage, keep the down a distance manageable over time.
- 12:30Speaker 1: What you went from a quarterback is to sort of
- 12:32Speaker 1: feel that a little better and make plays out of
- 12:34Speaker 1: some situations. But he wasn't doing that. But it would
- 12:39Speaker 1: have been a surprise if he if he'd been doing
- 12:41Speaker 1: that at this stage. But that's how he looked so far.
- 12:44Speaker 1: But that's how backup quarterbacks look, So that's okay. At
- 12:47Speaker 1: times against the Texans, when we were standing on the
- 12:48Speaker 1: sidelines and he went in, I thought he was almost
- 12:51Speaker 1: so caught up in the moment that it was distracting
- 12:53Speaker 1: for him. You saw him warming up and he was
- 12:54Speaker 1: all amped up. Then you saw him come off the
- 12:56Speaker 1: field after an offensive drive and he was down by
- 12:58Speaker 1: the defense high five and them gonna get one amped up.
- 13:00Speaker 1: It was almost like he was really really excited to
- 13:02Speaker 1: be there, which of course he's going to be, but
- 13:04Speaker 1: at times I thought it was almost like, all right,
- 13:06Speaker 1: take a deep breath, keep it going. Next question. It's
- 13:09Speaker 1: like sitting next to me on set, I'm always just
- 13:11Speaker 1: HIPing people up, ready to go very similar high on life.
- 13:14Speaker 1: That's what I am do we know do you expect?
- 13:19Speaker 1: And again they're so hamstrung. No Leonard backups on the
- 13:23Speaker 1: offensive line, no tight end that you can rely on
- 13:25Speaker 1: to block or even catch. I think, um, what do
- 13:29Speaker 1: you expect from Alan of bitch? I mean, what what
- 13:30Speaker 1: can he do? What do you got to throw more
- 13:32Speaker 1: on first down or run more on second? How different
- 13:35Speaker 1: can it possibly be? Is what I'm scratching my head
- 13:38Speaker 1: trying to figure out. You have the same weapons. You
- 13:40Speaker 1: would love for them to be at full strength offensively,
- 13:44Speaker 1: And I'm sure Nate Hacket is listening to this, going yeah,
- 13:46Speaker 1: so would I. But you can't imagine that you won't
- 13:52Speaker 1: see more passing on on first down, more attempt to
- 13:57Speaker 1: open it up. Only because when Doug made this announcement
- 14:00Speaker 1: are discussed it on Monday. He was very specific multiple times.
- 14:04Speaker 1: I did this because we need to get something going
- 14:05Speaker 1: in the passing game. So it would be a little
- 14:08Speaker 1: odd if if you remember when they made the change
- 14:12Speaker 1: from Hacket, I mean from Olsen to Hackett in two
- 14:16Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen in Kansas City, it was clearly made
- 14:18Speaker 1: because they were throwing the ball too much and they
- 14:20Speaker 1: wanted to run. Well, they came out and they ran
- 14:22Speaker 1: for two hundred issue or it's Chris Ivy was running
- 14:24Speaker 1: all over the place. It was a run oriented game.
- 14:28Speaker 1: You would think you would see the opposite with this.
- 14:31Speaker 1: You would think you'd see a passing oriented game, because
- 14:33Speaker 1: that's the reason they made the move. Um. At the
- 14:36Speaker 1: same time, I don't know that you want to subject
- 14:39Speaker 1: an offensive line with two opening day starters two. Hey,
- 14:43Speaker 1: the Colts know we have to pass. Let's get after
- 14:50Speaker 1: uh Cody Kesler. So it has to be a mix.
- 14:52Speaker 1: But I can't imagine you won't see more passing on
- 14:54Speaker 1: early down. Yeah, well just a thought. It's good for
- 14:56Speaker 1: them this week because they get a Colts team that
- 14:58Speaker 1: doesn't have that elite pass rusher you faced some teams
- 15:02Speaker 1: coming up to do. Yeah, they got after him a
- 15:03Speaker 1: little bit in Indie though, So I mean it was
- 15:06Speaker 1: the Colt's passed rush was better that day than the Jaguars,
- 15:09Speaker 1: mainly because the Colts offensive line. But when teams know
- 15:13Speaker 1: you're going to pass, even average pass rusher has become good.
- 15:19Speaker 1: Big thing too, is tomorrow and what's ahead, So we
- 15:22Speaker 1: know some change has come. Is more change coming in
- 15:25Speaker 1: two thousand nights and in the off season. It's going
- 15:28Speaker 1: to be an interesting off season. This week has made
- 15:29Speaker 1: it even more so interesting than we expected. We talked
- 15:32Speaker 1: about the numbers yesterday, John Um, there is always the
- 15:36Speaker 1: possibility that because of the salary cap and and guaranteed
- 15:40Speaker 1: money and dead money and all of that, that Blake
- 15:42Speaker 1: Bortles could be on the roster. I I don't discount
- 15:45Speaker 1: it completely, but I don't see it. It feels as
- 15:49Speaker 1: if this is the end in the situation, whatever the
- 15:51Speaker 1: feeling is worth. Um you see any way that that
- 15:54Speaker 1: comes back around. When it first happened, my first thought was,
- 16:00Speaker 1: this is a guy who has come back from the
- 16:04Speaker 1: brink so often that you wouldn't be surprised if he
- 16:07Speaker 1: did again, And now I would be. I mean, it
- 16:12Speaker 1: just feels like I don't even mean it's the starter.
- 16:14Speaker 1: I mean maybe this was a competitives what I mean,
- 16:16Speaker 1: it's it's a I think he would be if it
- 16:23Speaker 1: was in a vacuum, then maybe you could do it.
- 16:27Speaker 1: I sort of feel like when they got rid of Gabbert,
- 16:31Speaker 1: and I'm not comparing Blake to gabertt except in they
- 16:35Speaker 1: could have kept Gabett for another year. At that point,
- 16:37Speaker 1: I think he had one more year left on his deal.
- 16:40Speaker 1: Talent wise, Blaine's gone on and been a decent backup
- 16:45Speaker 1: come in and I mean he's he's a backup. He's
- 16:48Speaker 1: back up in the NFL. H And that would have
- 16:52Speaker 1: been an option on paper, but in fact it just
- 16:57Speaker 1: could you do it. It was just a tough thing
- 16:59Speaker 1: to do. Sort of feels the same way that, Um,
- 17:04Speaker 1: there is a point where maybe as a franchise, you
- 17:07Speaker 1: don't want to be the team that's always associated with
- 17:10Speaker 1: that thing that happened in the past. Um it's a
- 17:15Speaker 1: shame because if there's anybody in terms of a person
- 17:20Speaker 1: that you want to be associated with with, its Blake.
- 17:23Speaker 1: But at this point you do wonder if if it's
- 17:25Speaker 1: just time, and I think it will be time after
- 17:27Speaker 1: the offseason, I'd be surprised if he's here. Big Thing
- 17:30Speaker 1: three them Big Thing three is Sunday. So we saw
- 17:33Speaker 1: a few weeks ago how dominant the Colts offensive line was.
- 17:36Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson was my god good at going up against
- 17:39Speaker 1: Barry Church. We all saw that video. The same thing
- 17:41Speaker 1: is going to happen. They have answers with their quarterback
- 17:44Speaker 1: and it seems like he is making the entire roster better.
- 17:46Speaker 1: It's what the Jaguars want to get is he's making
- 17:49Speaker 1: complimentary players on the offense better as the entire offense
- 17:52Speaker 1: has been successful this season, you know, And I chose
- 17:54Speaker 1: this topic because I thought that it would be instructive
- 17:58Speaker 1: of how quickly now they have their quarterback. So it's
- 18:01Speaker 1: quicker than most. But their quarterback was getting killed two
- 18:04Speaker 1: years ago. The last time we saw him, he'd been
- 18:06Speaker 1: sacked thirty times in the first seven games. He's been
- 18:09Speaker 1: not what He's been touched once in the last five
- 18:11Speaker 1: six weeks. Uh, he's able to play, stay healthy, and
- 18:15Speaker 1: perform at his best. The offensive line has lifted them.
- 18:18Speaker 1: So we'll talk a lot about quarterback and what that
- 18:21Speaker 1: means and how the Jaguars have to find their guy
- 18:24Speaker 1: and go forward. They also have got to play on
- 18:26Speaker 1: the offensive line at a much higher level, especially inside.
- 18:30Speaker 1: So I don't know what that means for Brandon Linder.
- 18:33Speaker 1: I don't know what that means that right guard, you know,
- 18:35Speaker 1: right tackle. I mean, I think you've got two guys
- 18:38Speaker 1: that you know for sure you're going forward, maybe three,
- 18:40Speaker 1: maybe Lender's there. I don't know. I didn't think he
- 18:42Speaker 1: was playing all that well. I didn't think he was
- 18:44Speaker 1: playing like an eleven million dollar center. Um, but you've
- 18:48Speaker 1: got Cam Robinson and Andrew Norwell, both of whom you're
- 18:51Speaker 1: committed to. You're going to have to do some work
- 18:54Speaker 1: on this offensive line next year. To the Cults have
- 18:57Speaker 1: shown you just how important it is and how quickly
- 18:59Speaker 1: you can make progress if yours is great. Yeah, and uh,
- 19:05Speaker 1: it's tough because the Jaguars have tried to address it,
- 19:10Speaker 1: and they've tried to address it in a way as
- 19:12Speaker 1: as you go along. You know, there were so many
- 19:16Speaker 1: needs in thirteen and fourteen that it was hard to
- 19:21Speaker 1: take the Colts approach of first round, first round. First
- 19:24Speaker 1: That's what Dallas did. First round, first round, first round.
- 19:27Speaker 1: It's hard because you've got all other things you need
- 19:30Speaker 1: to get done this year. Do you want a first
- 19:33Speaker 1: round right tackle? What do you want a quarterback? Non't
- 19:37Speaker 1: the quarterback absolutely well? And then if you didn't have
- 19:41Speaker 1: Unique and got Clays they didn't have back then do
- 19:43Speaker 1: you want a first round guard or do you want
- 19:46Speaker 1: a pass rusher? And that's what they were up again.
- 19:48Speaker 1: I think some of that depends on who your quarterback
- 19:49Speaker 1: is too, right well, and and the Colts remember had
- 19:52Speaker 1: luck all this time, so you hadn't have to keep
- 19:54Speaker 1: going after that. So that's why they don't have the
- 19:56Speaker 1: dominant pass rusher right now because they decided to play
- 19:58Speaker 1: to their quarterback. You make choice, and the Jaguars tried.
- 20:02Speaker 1: And this is something I've written a lot. It's not
- 20:05Speaker 1: that they haven't tried in the last five or six
- 20:07Speaker 1: years to go offensive line. You went Luke jokel you
- 20:10Speaker 1: went Camera Robinson, which is a second and a high
- 20:13Speaker 1: first two third round picks, and Cannon Lender. He spent
- 20:18Speaker 1: big money on right tackle. He spent big money on
- 20:20Speaker 1: on Zane Beatles, he spent big money on Andrew Norwell. Well.
- 20:24Speaker 1: There's equity there, you can there's trying and then there's
- 20:29Speaker 1: trying and not quite working. H I think next year
- 20:34Speaker 1: you will see the three you just talked about, Lender, Robinson,
- 20:39Speaker 1: and Norwell back. I don't think he's any way in
- 20:40Speaker 1: the world. Lender gets out of here at this point. No,
- 20:43Speaker 1: I'm not saying that initially he should not, but I
- 20:45Speaker 1: just didn't think he was playing all that well. But yeah,
- 20:47Speaker 1: he has been a big factor. He's, you know, not
- 20:49Speaker 1: practicing on Wednesday, right. I asked a little bit about this.
- 20:52Speaker 1: He he's not a top three center, top ten center.
- 20:55Speaker 1: He is, so I don't think you get rid of that.
- 20:58Speaker 1: And he's their best offensive lineman. So you if he's
- 21:04Speaker 1: not paid like the best offensive lineman Norway, Well yeah,
- 21:07Speaker 1: but you had to go get that, and that's harder
- 21:11Speaker 1: when you pay your own versus go getting. You're always
- 21:13Speaker 1: gonna pay more for go get. But you know, I
- 21:17Speaker 1: think right tackle would be a priority. And then at
- 21:20Speaker 1: some point you can't spend everywhere. I think right guard
- 21:24Speaker 1: will be where you probably have a third round rookie
- 21:27Speaker 1: And you're saying you gotta or some rookie in their
- 21:30Speaker 1: second Well, again, you got a lot to get to Phil.
- 21:33Speaker 1: You got a draft receiver, you got a draft backup
- 21:35Speaker 1: running back, I mean backup running back. Well, you've got
- 21:38Speaker 1: Carlos Hide. Well, he's on your on your roster for
- 21:42Speaker 1: the next two years. Gonna be t J Yelden. And
- 21:45Speaker 1: these two guys right now aren't the third down safety
- 21:50Speaker 1: net the t J Yelden is. I would agree, but
- 21:52Speaker 1: I would argue with you, if you've got an offensive
- 21:55Speaker 1: line that's performing at a higher level, you can find
- 21:57Speaker 1: a runner later in the draft. It could be t
- 21:58Speaker 1: J Yelden based on what in he's done. We'll see.
- 22:02Speaker 1: It's all. They're gonna try to get that guy somewhere
- 22:05Speaker 1: in the draft. I think agreed. I think they should.
- 22:07Speaker 1: And let's leave it with this. It would it surprise
- 22:10Speaker 1: you if every dollar and every draft pick was spent
- 22:14Speaker 1: on one side of the ball next year? Um the
- 22:18Speaker 1: answers yes, because you don't expect them to do that
- 22:20Speaker 1: every draft pick. No, but it could easily be where
- 22:23Speaker 1: they have seven because they sort of swapped out the fifth.
- 22:27Speaker 1: Uh five, Yeah, yeah, all right, we'll do for a break,
- 22:32Speaker 1: we'll come back. Hey, Joe and the ozone Snapshot are
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- 25:04Speaker 1: to discover the Hey Joe impact of the show every
- 25:07Speaker 1: single Wednesday. It is a joyful moment here on this
- 25:12Speaker 1: side of the studio as we introduced to you a
- 25:17Speaker 1: right good Mr Sexton in the radio, A long time
- 25:19Speaker 1: Joe Johnny one hit wonders the Proclaimers ring a bell,
- 25:28Speaker 1: I will walk there, you go, all right, well today
- 25:33Speaker 1: we're gonna kill that record. Will I know that? Will?
- 25:43Speaker 1: I know that we want three, and I know that
- 25:45Speaker 1: three means we won more than two. And I know that,
- 25:50Speaker 1: and I know if we want four, that means four
- 25:52Speaker 1: is winning more than three or two. And I know
- 25:56Speaker 1: that winning out seems like straight, but being eight might
- 26:00Speaker 1: not be what to do and to left aprils coming
- 26:05Speaker 1: around a real fast, and it might be that a
- 26:07Speaker 1: drafting one or two. So should we play five hundred
- 26:13Speaker 1: or should we try to use them all. The season
- 26:18Speaker 1: went to hell fast and we can we if we're sure.
- 26:28Speaker 1: So you didn't know that. I didn't know that song? Absolutely, you, sir,
- 26:34Speaker 1: are a delight everye what else it's really there? Well,
- 26:37Speaker 1: I mean that. Look, we all know we're headed to
- 26:40Speaker 1: that conversation in December. We know it. So you just
- 26:44Speaker 1: laid it out for us in a musical tune A
- 26:47Speaker 1: pipe little tune? Pipe was Is that in your wheelhouse?
- 26:50Speaker 1: Ash Yeah? I know that song. I didn't know. I
- 26:53Speaker 1: didn't know who's sang it, but I've heard it, Okay,
- 26:55Speaker 1: that's I think that's fair. When Joe told me the
- 26:57Speaker 1: name of this new song for me, and I think
- 26:59Speaker 1: it was written before Ashton was born. There's a lot
- 27:04Speaker 1: that happened before Ashland was born. Let's just be honest.
- 27:07Speaker 1: But a lot has happened since I've been alive. The
- 27:09Speaker 1: sure that Joe was wearing today probably existed before Ashlyn.
- 27:13Speaker 1: It's cold, I know, sadly that's probably true. Yeah, probably
- 27:19Speaker 1: what something? Joe has very colorful socks that that pre
- 27:24Speaker 1: date you, That might predate your parents. It might be
- 27:27Speaker 1: time to get new socks. Then somebody has to punch.
- 27:31Speaker 1: Might have clothes that predate. I don't think they're speaking
- 27:38Speaker 1: of time. It's a mean all kidding aside, it's it's
- 27:51Speaker 1: a really good song. That is the one that Joe
- 27:54Speaker 1: just did, No, the original, not Oh Joe did that too,
- 28:00Speaker 1: in a way he did. Yeah, he's a good man.
- 28:03Speaker 1: He's very talented. You know, I lost I brought a
- 28:06Speaker 1: pen from Joel last week and lost it where I
- 28:08Speaker 1: gave it back and he's fine with it. That's that's
- 28:11Speaker 1: character telling. That's a nice man. He should join you
- 28:14Speaker 1: for the breakfast buffet. Wanted you wanted? You got to
- 28:16Speaker 1: treat him to the breakfast buffet for the pen that
- 28:19Speaker 1: you lost. It'd be a good someday. I'll just steal
- 28:21Speaker 1: something off his day and feel good about it, okay,
- 28:26Speaker 1: because you leave cash just laying around spend thrift that
- 28:29Speaker 1: you are. All right, let's get to this thing. Let's
- 28:32Speaker 1: go to Jacksonville, Eddie. So if Kessler goes in and
- 28:37Speaker 1: lays an egg, then what do we do? Well then yeah, well,
- 28:42Speaker 1: you know how much worse can it be? Exactly? You know,
- 28:49Speaker 1: what do you have to do? Just just wait it out.
- 28:50Speaker 1: It'll soon be over. Yeah, I mean, it's uh, they'll
- 28:54Speaker 1: keep starting him and it'll be bad, but I don't
- 28:59Speaker 1: think it'll be uh yeah, I guess it's that could
- 29:04Speaker 1: be any worse. I don't have to answer the question,
- 29:05Speaker 1: but I think he'll be okay if if he lays
- 29:10Speaker 1: an egg then this weekend, I don't think you worry
- 29:14Speaker 1: about it too much. If he lays an egg for
- 29:16Speaker 1: four games and you know you don't have that guy
- 29:17Speaker 1: and then you gotta go get a veteran guy to
- 29:20Speaker 1: go along with the rookie next year and you start over,
- 29:22Speaker 1: I don't think it changes that much in the long term.
- 29:26Speaker 1: If he lays an egg, if he plays well, then
- 29:28Speaker 1: I think it makes you think, Okay, this is a
- 29:30Speaker 1: guy that that we can factor into the quarterback equation bridge,
- 29:34Speaker 1: whereas right now you don't really know he can bridge
- 29:36Speaker 1: it for it, which is what you're looking for. You're
- 29:38Speaker 1: absolutely I mean Tom Coughlin did local radio yesterday and
- 29:42Speaker 1: was talking about, you know, the game and the way
- 29:43Speaker 1: that it's changed and the rules and how people want
- 29:46Speaker 1: points and just interpret that. Right, you gotta get one
- 29:50Speaker 1: of those guys. You've got to find a guy who
- 29:53Speaker 1: can do that most significant because and Brian, we've talked
- 29:59Speaker 1: about it on the show. Uh, the Rams has, but
- 30:03Speaker 1: they run. Everything goes through the running end. That's what
- 30:07Speaker 1: you wonder the last four games with four net does
- 30:11Speaker 1: he show because he hasn't been Tied Gurley yet? Oh no,
- 30:14Speaker 1: So well, there's some people think he's great, he's not
- 30:18Speaker 1: with Todd Gurley has proven it on the front. But
- 30:21Speaker 1: he's shown in the last couple of weeks that he
- 30:23Speaker 1: can be an element something like that. Maybe not Tied Gurley,
- 30:27Speaker 1: but it's something you can build around that you know
- 30:29Speaker 1: what you've got. He needs to play that way for
- 30:32Speaker 1: four games so that they are sure in the offseason
- 30:35Speaker 1: what they have and then it's it's an element that
- 30:37Speaker 1: they know they can build off of. I have said
- 30:39Speaker 1: it showing that more since the losing started that no
- 30:42Speaker 1: matter what you think of Nate Hackett and the offense,
- 30:46Speaker 1: what they wanted to do this year was what the
- 30:49Speaker 1: Rams are doing. They could do a little different at
- 30:51Speaker 1: the two backs set. They didn't have that deep Brandon
- 30:53Speaker 1: Cook's receiver, but they really like what they could do
- 30:56Speaker 1: with Corey Grant out of the backfield. What they thought
- 30:58Speaker 1: the tight end was going to give them, and they
- 31:00Speaker 1: hoped to have Mark Keislee and Donte Moncreef streaking down
- 31:03Speaker 1: the field. The Rams are doing it better, but they're
- 31:06Speaker 1: doing exactly what the Jaguars hoped to do. Nad Hacket
- 31:10Speaker 1: didn't have a chance. He didn't have the players and
- 31:12Speaker 1: have something that really hurt your soul. You need that
- 31:15Speaker 1: right as Yeah, give it to me Leonard for Nett
- 31:17Speaker 1: running like he has the last two weeks with Corey
- 31:21Speaker 1: Grant and oh on the field, and and Austin Seferian Jenkins,
- 31:26Speaker 1: who I think would have been a huge difference in
- 31:28Speaker 1: the middle of the field. People can bang on Blake
- 31:30Speaker 1: Boardles all they want for the passing on Sunday and
- 31:33Speaker 1: in the second half against the Steelers, but the reality
- 31:36Speaker 1: of it is is that last year we saw a
- 31:38Speaker 1: guy who, with complimentary pieces, to use the word that
- 31:41Speaker 1: you brought into the equation weeks ago, was very efficient
- 31:45Speaker 1: and played to the strengths of the team. Couldn't do it,
- 31:48Speaker 1: had to carry the team. Can't do it. Jaguars likely
- 31:51Speaker 1: moving on wouldn't have been a top three offense with that,
- 31:54Speaker 1: but I think it would have been a top ten
- 31:55Speaker 1: to fourteen. I think they'd be six and five. Life
- 31:58Speaker 1: would be very different, all right, Let's go to good
- 32:01Speaker 1: old Jamie offensive coordinator, fired quarterback bench. Who are the
- 32:06Speaker 1: fans going to hate next week? If the Jaguars win,
- 32:08Speaker 1: it'll probably be the head coach for not making the
- 32:10Speaker 1: change sooner. I guess we'll have to stay tuned. Well.
- 32:14Speaker 1: The fans will hate Todd Wash next week because he's
- 32:16Speaker 1: no I mean, you know you had some media yesterday
- 32:19Speaker 1: that we're asking the question when I fire him too. Yeah,
- 32:21Speaker 1: there's fire everybody. Um, it's fine, Um, just hand him
- 32:27Speaker 1: the check as he walks out the door, a big check.
- 32:32Speaker 1: At this point. Unless you turn this around and win
- 32:36Speaker 1: four or five, there's gonna be calls for Doug. There's
- 32:39Speaker 1: gonna be calls for Todd Wash. There's gonna be calls
- 32:41Speaker 1: for Dave calls yesterday, Right, So they wanted her to
- 32:44Speaker 1: change your name from Ashlyn to Ashley, and I don't
- 32:46Speaker 1: think I did much at all, Right, but apparently I'm
- 32:48Speaker 1: a part of the equation. Everybody becomes part of the problem.
- 32:51Speaker 1: That actually is a nice name. I mean, it's it's
- 32:53Speaker 1: got a nice ring to it. I'll consider it. But yeah,
- 32:58Speaker 1: they're gonna hate and continue to hate until you start winning.
- 33:02Speaker 1: It's what fans do. I personally think Doug is going
- 33:07Speaker 1: to be fine. I think he mean, I think he's
- 33:10Speaker 1: gonna be back next year. Uh, but we'll see. Well.
- 33:14Speaker 1: And as I mentioned, we talked about this yesterday Ashland John,
- 33:17Speaker 1: I don't know we did. People thought what it Doug
- 33:20Speaker 1: too much of a curmudgeon offensively, he doesn't. We've got
- 33:22Speaker 1: to get a coaching here who's going to run a
- 33:24Speaker 1: high octane offense. Don't forget he worked with Sean Payton.
- 33:28Speaker 1: He got exactly and you played at the strings that
- 33:32Speaker 1: you have. Don't think for a moment that he can't
- 33:35Speaker 1: go and fine tune this thing. If they bring in
- 33:38Speaker 1: players and run a different offense entirely, don't make the
- 33:42Speaker 1: different offense. Well he was trying to Tom Coughlin. Uh
- 33:49Speaker 1: remember when he was here with Jimmy and Keenan. Right,
- 33:51Speaker 1: it is not averse to the passing game. They tried
- 33:54Speaker 1: to win last year and this year with what they had.
- 33:59Speaker 1: Guess what they want last year with what they had
- 34:01Speaker 1: when it was healthy. So if they have something different,
- 34:06Speaker 1: they will adapt around that. All right, Let's finish it
- 34:09Speaker 1: off with Brandon from Asheville, North Carolina. When it rains,
- 34:13Speaker 1: it pours this upcoming game will look like a preseason
- 34:16Speaker 1: game with the number of injuries, demotions and suspensions on offense.
- 34:20Speaker 1: What hope is there? You know, it's funny when I
- 34:23Speaker 1: first got this from Brandon in Asheville. Uh, great town Ashville.
- 34:27Speaker 1: By the way, uma is that ash Lynnville was Asheville
- 34:30Speaker 1: shut for Ashlynnville as my mother doesn't like Ashley. That's
- 34:37Speaker 1: how she likes Ashville. I don't know, I'll have to ask.
- 34:40Speaker 1: I'll call her after just text her now she's probably
- 34:43Speaker 1: texting you. When I first got the email, I thought
- 34:46Speaker 1: it was a big I thought it was a bit extreme.
- 34:49Speaker 1: When I thought about the email, I thought it was
- 34:51Speaker 1: dead on because it is going to have a preseason
- 34:54Speaker 1: feel in terms of we've never seen Cody Castle start before. Uh,
- 34:59Speaker 1: you have a new coordinator, two starting offensive lineman. How
- 35:03Speaker 1: many guys starting on Sunday did you expect it would
- 35:08Speaker 1: be starting? I think the numbers three. I think A D. D. Westbrook,
- 35:13Speaker 1: which really expect him to be starting, but H D
- 35:16Speaker 1: D Westbrook and two offensive linement A J. Cannon, Jeremy Parnell. Right,
- 35:20Speaker 1: that's it. So yeah, it's got that feel. Nothing is
- 35:25Speaker 1: quite against a team that's won five in a row
- 35:28Speaker 1: and their quarterback is untouchable. It seems your chance to
- 35:33Speaker 1: win on Sunday is the past rush gets free and
- 35:38Speaker 1: Jalen and Boy and the safeties picked the ball off.
- 35:41Speaker 1: And yet you know what Brian, I would expect by
- 35:43Speaker 1: the way, I expect Jalen too, even though he had
- 35:46Speaker 1: that terrific game against the Steelers. I would think that
- 35:49Speaker 1: Jalen will remember a month ago and be ready to go. Yeah,
- 35:53Speaker 1: he hopes. I think he'll play well. And I'll say
- 35:56Speaker 1: this more on Friday. I have a feeling dag Wars
- 36:00Speaker 1: went on Sunday. Whoa, I'm sorry to see that. I
- 36:02Speaker 1: hear on the Diguars went on Sunday. Because that's how
- 36:05Speaker 1: this league work. It's so weird works, and you've seen
- 36:08Speaker 1: it so many times. There's your hope, Brandon. I'm not
- 36:10Speaker 1: betting any money on you wouldn't, but it's just how
- 36:15Speaker 1: this league work. That would be something, and that's how
- 36:19Speaker 1: the show works. We're done, Hey, Joe and the O.
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- 38:21Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from head coach Doug moro Own, We're
- 38:22Speaker 1: gonna go in the locker room and hear from quarterback
- 38:25Speaker 1: Cody Kessler as well as Blake Bortles. A lot will
- 38:28Speaker 1: happen today, but before that, I have some questions for
- 38:31Speaker 1: these two guys. With all right, let's have it. If
- 38:37Speaker 1: for Net does not get ejected, is it safe to
- 38:40Speaker 1: say Nathaniel Hackett is still the offensive coordinator this week? Brian,
- 38:46Speaker 1: you alluded to this earlier in the show, So I apologize. No,
- 38:49Speaker 1: I apologize because I knew you're going to ask this,
- 38:51Speaker 1: But it's an emphatic yes, yes, John, you think yes
- 38:56Speaker 1: as well? Yes, well, because they win, I think, and look,
- 38:59Speaker 1: the momentum was clearly they were driving and Blake through that.
- 39:03Speaker 1: It was a beautiful pass to mon Creef put him
- 39:06Speaker 1: at the goal line. The way they're playing, I mean,
- 39:09Speaker 1: you know, they tried a couple of plays on first
- 39:10Speaker 1: and second down on his second touchdown, and finally on
- 39:12Speaker 1: third down the game in the ball, remember they threw
- 39:14Speaker 1: it and they ran it to to Tommy Bohannon and
- 39:17Speaker 1: then and he just kind of walked in. So yeah,
- 39:19Speaker 1: he absolutely scores. They have momentum. Now that doesn't necessarily
- 39:23Speaker 1: mean that Nate finishes out the season. No, I agree
- 39:27Speaker 1: with that. The next loss he isn't. It depends on
- 39:31Speaker 1: how they play. Yeah, Now if they had won two
- 39:34Speaker 1: or three in a row, yeah, probably not. If it
- 39:36Speaker 1: you know, they don't make it change like they made
- 39:40Speaker 1: on Monday, if they went on Sunday. Let's just how
- 39:42Speaker 1: the league. All right, let's go to the next one.
- 39:45Speaker 1: Hard getting questions is Blake Bortles on the Jaguars roster
- 39:49Speaker 1: in two thousand and nineteen doesn't have to be the starter?
- 39:54Speaker 1: Is he? Just here in Jacksonville are unanimous. Now. The
- 40:00Speaker 1: reason that I say this is because if you recall
- 40:02Speaker 1: about a month ago, I was then when people were
- 40:05Speaker 1: calling for that, I went to the dead money on
- 40:08Speaker 1: the salary cap and right now there's sixteen point five
- 40:10Speaker 1: million in dead money assigned to Blake Bordles for two
- 40:14Speaker 1: thousand and nineteen. But a little Bertie whispered to me
- 40:17Speaker 1: that that number is not entirely accurate. That if they
- 40:21Speaker 1: don't keep him on the roster, they can get five
- 40:24Speaker 1: and a half million of that back because they don't
- 40:26Speaker 1: pay it. You pay what you I'm sorry, you claim
- 40:30Speaker 1: what you pay, right, So if they haven't paid that yet,
- 40:33Speaker 1: they don't have to claim it. So it's only eleven million,
- 40:36Speaker 1: which is a huge bite of the apple, don't I
- 40:39Speaker 1: would really have trouble if I owned this team, um,
- 40:42Speaker 1: because I don't want to pay eleven million. But they
- 40:45Speaker 1: can get out from underneath that without having to destroy
- 40:49Speaker 1: their roster. So I'm gonna say, because I've said it
- 40:52Speaker 1: all week, it feels like this is the end Jacksonville.
- 40:57Speaker 1: I think usually you have rules, and one of your
- 41:03Speaker 1: rules is usually we're not going to pay that much
- 41:07Speaker 1: for somebody not to be on the roster. But there's
- 41:10Speaker 1: also cases in everything where as long as you know
- 41:13Speaker 1: why you're breaking the rules, that you go ahead and
- 41:16Speaker 1: break them. And I think this is one where you say,
- 41:19Speaker 1: normally we would not if it was a defensive end,
- 41:22Speaker 1: we would not. If it was a cornerback, we wouldn't
- 41:24Speaker 1: do this. But with it being the quarterback and with
- 41:27Speaker 1: it being such a you know, central position, uh, we
- 41:33Speaker 1: just know that this is not something we want to
- 41:36Speaker 1: go forward with. So I think it'll be not. I
- 41:37Speaker 1: think it'll be no. And it essentially makes it just
- 41:42Speaker 1: one year, six million dollar deal that you gave Blake. Yeah, thanks,
- 41:48Speaker 1: all right, last national mask Pick one Jaguar who is
- 41:53Speaker 1: making it to the Pro Bowl this year? Before I
- 41:58Speaker 1: would have said Josh Lambo. He's and money this season
- 42:01Speaker 1: a little in consistent the past few weeks, but he
- 42:04Speaker 1: might still be your best. But of course Jalen Ramsey.
- 42:13Speaker 1: I'm still gonna go with with Jalen not necessarily because
- 42:19Speaker 1: he's had a magnificent year. He's had a couple of
- 42:22Speaker 1: high profile interceptions or three actually, and I was his
- 42:27Speaker 1: interception number at three now, um so gets one more,
- 42:34Speaker 1: it would be maybe more of a reputation, more of
- 42:39Speaker 1: a highlight type of selection. I still think he's one
- 42:44Speaker 1: of the best, uh two or three corners in the
- 42:47Speaker 1: NFL and still playing like that. So if he makes
- 42:51Speaker 1: it to be for that reason, and I think there's
- 42:53Speaker 1: a chance that he still makes it, although it certainly
- 42:56Speaker 1: wouldn't have the shine that last year's did. Uh No,
- 42:58Speaker 1: And I wrote Jalen too because that's the obvious one.
- 43:00Speaker 1: But a guy who deserves to go because he's played
- 43:02Speaker 1: at this level is Marcel Darius. He's been there before. Um.
- 43:06Speaker 1: The teams that have played and the offensive lines that
- 43:09Speaker 1: have faced him would have to say that he is
- 43:12Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl caliber player. Whether he gets there or not,
- 43:15Speaker 1: I don't know, Um, but he certainly played at a
- 43:17Speaker 1: Pro Bowl level. Yeah, I doubt he'll get there, only
- 43:20Speaker 1: because although he definitely should. Uh. Usually defensive lineman, especially
- 43:28Speaker 1: interior defensive lineman who don't have sacked numbers, is a
- 43:32Speaker 1: is a reputation how good your team was type thing,
- 43:37Speaker 1: fairly or unfairly. You've got to really be has something
- 43:41Speaker 1: going spectacularly for you to make it well. And a
- 43:44Speaker 1: guy like Jerrell Casey and Nashville generally gets the spot
- 43:47Speaker 1: because even though he's a three four defensive end, they
- 43:50Speaker 1: count him as a defensive tackle because he's more of
- 43:52Speaker 1: an interior rusher, right, And he gets Yeah, so I
- 43:56Speaker 1: think he should I'd be surprised if he did. Alright,
- 44:00Speaker 1: that's it, that's it. How about some agree to disagree.
- 44:02Speaker 1: We'll take our final break. We have John here, we've moved.
- 44:05Speaker 1: Agree to disagree Wednesday. Sometimes both agreeable and disagreeable. The
- 44:12Speaker 1: change of quarterback will invigorate the Jags offense and we'll
- 44:14Speaker 1: see touchdowns instead of field goals on Sunday. And disagree.
- 44:20Speaker 1: I think you're still going to see from some field
- 44:22Speaker 1: goals a few touchdowns, but I don't think it's gonna
- 44:24Speaker 1: invigorate the Jaguars offense Cody Custler because he still has
- 44:27Speaker 1: the same offensive weapons that Blake Bortles said, and he's
- 44:29Speaker 1: still playing behind the same offensive line without Andrew Normal.
- 44:32Speaker 1: Now A because I'm generally agreeable, but but be um.
- 44:41Speaker 1: You often see a jump, a a a spark with
- 44:46Speaker 1: the new offensive coordinator. We saw it with Nate Hacking
- 44:49Speaker 1: a couple of years back. It's harder to do that
- 44:53Speaker 1: consider you also have a backup quarterback and everything else
- 44:56Speaker 1: is in disarray. Um, but I think you'll see a
- 45:00Speaker 1: I don't think they'll win, but at three touchdowns, did
- 45:02Speaker 1: you not just say that said they were gonna win?
- 45:05Speaker 1: You just said that in the last break they were
- 45:06Speaker 1: gonna be all excited. You said they're gonna win, as hey,
- 45:15Speaker 1: here's yeah, yeah, yeah, they're gonna four touchdown So invigorate.
- 45:20Speaker 1: Invigorate might not be the right word, but talking to
- 45:24Speaker 1: some of the guys in the locker room on Monday,
- 45:26Speaker 1: they feel responsible for the changes that were made. Dede.
- 45:30Speaker 1: Westbrook was wondered, I know that you talked to in particular.
- 45:32Speaker 1: So I would like to think that balls that were
- 45:34Speaker 1: dropped healing cole Um might be caught, right. I mean,
- 45:38Speaker 1: some of these guys who have struggled over this losing
- 45:41Speaker 1: streak might step up and make the catch and perform
- 45:44Speaker 1: at a higher level. So I'll say, yes, I agree
- 45:47Speaker 1: with that thing comes into play. I'll bet that they
- 45:49Speaker 1: scored two first quarter touchdowns just because that's how this
- 45:54Speaker 1: league works. Well, because it's how it works. And remember
- 45:59Speaker 1: game planning for a coordinator. There's no tape on Scott Monitage,
- 46:03Speaker 1: so maybe they fool him. They do something weird. They
- 46:06Speaker 1: get a couple of touchdowns that you go jump off
- 46:08Speaker 1: and lead, it'll be tight, it'll be tight, and then
- 46:10Speaker 1: they wink, oh, so we're college football now, Is that
- 46:15Speaker 1: it all right? How about the next one. Let's just
- 46:17Speaker 1: do one more of these because we're up against it.
- 46:19Speaker 1: We'll take a break after this. Uh, this is the
- 46:21Speaker 1: end of the borders here. We've covered that. Hey, Max
- 46:24Speaker 1: put up the next one. Yeah, we did that. I
- 46:27Speaker 1: love it for Net, but it would but would take
- 46:30Speaker 1: the c back he didn't earn it. Um. We talked
- 46:33Speaker 1: about this yesterday. I totally agree with this. Uh. Now
- 46:37Speaker 1: Doug said that it was primarily the player's decision. They
- 46:41Speaker 1: gave him the sea. Do they want to take it back? Um?
- 46:46Speaker 1: I would, because I'm I'm into sending the kid a message.
- 46:49Speaker 1: Right now, I agree with I agree with your premise. Um.
- 46:53Speaker 1: Looking at it from Doug's point of view, Doug's next player,
- 46:57Speaker 1: and he believes in the saying city of the locker
- 47:00Speaker 1: want certain things. He clearly believes that players choose the
- 47:03Speaker 1: captains the captaincy. Um, so I don't think he'll do that.
- 47:08Speaker 1: He believes that the players set that and that's something
- 47:11Speaker 1: that he lets the players do. I don't think he'll
- 47:13Speaker 1: veer from that. Uh. My guess is he would like
- 47:17Speaker 1: if if if the players said, you know what, this
- 47:20Speaker 1: is not the right guy. Right now. I don't think
- 47:22Speaker 1: that will happen, but I don't think I'll have the
- 47:24Speaker 1: captaincy stripped. I agree, but hearing Klais Campbell and Jaguars
- 47:28Speaker 1: all access and then Malik Jackson in the locker room
- 47:31Speaker 1: saying that Leonard for Net needs to grow up. I
- 47:32Speaker 1: would be shocked if someone went to Dug Morrow and said, hey,
- 47:35Speaker 1: this isn't the right guy right now. I think it'd
- 47:37Speaker 1: be a really good thing for this team of something
- 47:38Speaker 1: like that happened, but again not Doug's decision. Like he
- 47:41Speaker 1: said on Monday, it has to come from a play
- 47:43Speaker 1: message of the law of the Jersey hanging in the
- 47:46Speaker 1: locker without the sea on. It would be enough again
- 47:48Speaker 1: for me, and I don't know Leonard well enough to
- 47:51Speaker 1: know whether it will, but that to me would be okay,
- 47:54Speaker 1: I better go earn that back. We'll take a break.
- 47:57Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll look at the power rankings
- 47:59Speaker 1: for whatever those worth. They wrap up our show on
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- 49:41Speaker 1: bed on a chili Wednesday morning. Again, of the temperature
- 49:47Speaker 1: supposed to rise tomorrow, Friday, Saturday, Uh, Sunday will be
- 49:51Speaker 1: a beautiful eighty degree days. So come on out, Jaguars
- 49:54Speaker 1: and Colts one o'clock kickoff, and uh time for the
- 49:58Speaker 1: power ranking. Let's put John's up there first. People's interest
- 50:02Speaker 1: in this is much much lower with the Jaguars bottoming out,
- 50:07Speaker 1: But there you go, John, Yeah, Sam's Patriots Chargers. The
- 50:12Speaker 1: interesting thing, I think the Chargers are the team that
- 50:16Speaker 1: might sneak in there and be really dangerous to the
- 50:18Speaker 1: other you know. Tom Brady suggested that on Monday Night Football,
- 50:21Speaker 1: he talked on the Westwood one radio broadcast before the
- 50:24Speaker 1: game about that, Yeah, if they get you know, they're
- 50:26Speaker 1: gonna get the pass rusher back and Joey Bosa, So yeah,
- 50:30Speaker 1: they're dangerous. The Jaggers twenty eight way Ashley My Power
- 50:35Speaker 1: rankings Saints, Ram's Chief, Patriots, Chargers, Jaguars at six. I
- 50:40Speaker 1: really like the Saints here. I think they're explosive. Their
- 50:43Speaker 1: offense is so fun to watch. I don't see them
- 50:45Speaker 1: slowing down very much at all. UM and mine have
- 50:49Speaker 1: the Jaguars in roughly the same spot at UM. I
- 50:53Speaker 1: put the Texans in at number five. UM. I like
- 50:56Speaker 1: the way they're playing right now. The Patriots are out
- 50:58Speaker 1: of it, just just because right now I put him
- 51:00Speaker 1: at six. UM, but clearly they belong in there. Just
- 51:04Speaker 1: the Texans. They're running the ball, they're playing great defense.
- 51:08Speaker 1: I didn't think they had a good enough offensive line
- 51:10Speaker 1: to consistently run the ball. UM, but that was a
- 51:13Speaker 1: good textan a part of me Titans defensive line that
- 51:16Speaker 1: they ran on the other night. Um. And the quarterback
- 51:20Speaker 1: is playing well. The playoffs will be fascinating because right
- 51:23Speaker 1: now we've got the Patriots where like four or three
- 51:26Speaker 1: or you know, I mean, I've got them at six.
- 51:28Speaker 1: Just outside that, but just to have some more different
- 51:30Speaker 1: to some good teams. There's the Chargers, there's the Texans.
- 51:33Speaker 1: There is the Chiefs, obviously, but somebody's gonna have to
- 51:39Speaker 1: beat those guys to get to the Super Bowl, me
- 51:41Speaker 1: and the Patriots, and and you kind of saw last
- 51:43Speaker 1: year how tough that is. Even if you're playing well,
- 51:46Speaker 1: even you gotta go, and even you gotta lead. At
- 51:48Speaker 1: some point, it's gonna be a four point game against
- 51:52Speaker 1: the Patriots with seven minutes ago, and somebody's got to
- 51:54Speaker 1: hold on to beat him and knock him out. And
- 51:56Speaker 1: even though you think these teams might be better, they're hotter,
- 51:59Speaker 1: there was to say, more difficult to put off. All right,
- 52:02Speaker 1: Thanks for the show, Hey, John, Thanks for skipping the
- 52:04Speaker 1: buffet this morning and making it in. We know that
- 52:06Speaker 1: that breakfast buffet is a big part of your drive.
- 52:08Speaker 1: In that you made it, we appreciate. I'm yes, you
- 52:14Speaker 1: are all right. So for Ashelon and John, for Joe
- 52:17Speaker 1: and mad Max Hackman in the other room, we say,
- 52:20Speaker 1: have a wonderful day. Happy Hour comes your way four
- 52:23Speaker 1: o'clock this afternoon, right here on the Jaguars Digital Network.
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