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How to Save Humanity — with Prof Gloria Moss (Part 3 of 3) · UK Column Radio

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Hello everyone, this is Diane Rasmussen Mccaddy with UK Column
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News. I'm really happy to be here for
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part three of our interview series with Professor Gloria
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Moss. We'll put links to Part 1 and
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two in the write up for this interview.
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So Part 1 was Gloria and I talking about the horrible
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things that have happened to the university system here in the
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UK. And Part 2 was an interesting
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discussion between Gloria and Ben Rubin about what has been
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happening in the Gloria's research career, looking at the
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differences between men and women.
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And part three, I will have it. I will say in advance that this
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is going to be a very serious discussion, but we do hope to
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end with some lightness and some things that we can all do to
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fight the darkness it that is present and what we're going to
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call the trans agenda. So Gloria, welcome back again
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once again to UK column. Thanks for joining me again
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today. So I'm really happy to to expose
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this amazing amount of information that you have found
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and looking forward to getting into it.
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So where where would you like to start today?
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Well, we're going to talk about the transhumanist agenda today,
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and I think it's worth going back in time really, and saying
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that this is based on the presumption that humans are not
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perfect. And that goes back a very long
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way, actually, that presumption. So I think it's useful to sketch
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in the background before we move up to the current day and the
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transhumanist agenda that's playing out before our eyes now.
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So if we go back in time, of course in the Book of
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Revelations 1318, we find the statement that the man has the
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mark of the beast, 666. That's not a positive way of
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looking at man. And when it's rather interesting
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that in modern day terms the carbon atom that man is
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substantially made up from man being a carbon based life form,
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is made up of 6 protons, 6 electrons and six neutrons.
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There we have it, 666. And so mark of the beast in
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Revelations. Carbon, of course, is the target
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of many global institutions, organisations, governments,
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vilified. And here we are, made up
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substantially of carbon. Around the same time, more or
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less as Revelations appear, we find the secret Gospel of John
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about the 2nd century. ADI Think, which gives us a very
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good account of Gnostic thinking.
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And I do think that understanding Gnostic ideas is
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really enlightening in looking at the transhumanist agenda and
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providing A context, if you like, for the transhumanist
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agenda. So very briefly, the Gnostics,
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they posited that there was a light source that created
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everything, including ten Aeons who created kindness, which
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created the first perfect. Remember that the first perfect
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human being and this light source then created for
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Illuminaries who in turn created the 12 eternal dimensions at one
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of these eternal dynamensions has the name Sophia and the the
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story goes that Sophia became unbalanced and was expelled
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because of the unbalance into a dark dimension becoming
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paranoid, egotistical and aggressive.
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And the Demiurge as as it's known that was in charge of
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Sophia then force Sophia. This is one of the 12 eternal
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dimensions into a low energy dark creation which is the
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material universe. This is the first time we hear
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of the material universe that created humans, the material,
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and that also created, according to Gnostic belief, a hierarchy
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of controlling rulers, dark forces known as Archons.
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ARCHONS. And what the Demiurge and the
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Archons then proceeded to do was to attempt to create a slave
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worker, a different version of the human created, the perfect
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human created by the light source.
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And well, the higher dimensional force, we're told, stepped in to
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mitigate the harm by imbuing these slave workers with
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thinking and spiritual power. Sounds good, doesn't it?
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But the Archons think of them as dark forces.
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They retaliated by using diverse means to control and suppress
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these slave workers. And the kind of tools they used
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were the imposition of false religious beliefs, the
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eradication of higher knowledge in all subjects.
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That's something that we talked about, Diane, when we were
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talking about universities and to some extent what's happening
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in schools, mindless entertainment and genetic
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manipulation. These were the tools of the
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archons, the dark forces to control the slave workers that
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had been modified in a good way by the light source.
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And so here we have Gnostic thinking, which I think provides
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a useful backdrop when we look at the transhumanist agenda.
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And just to complete the picture, according to this
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vision of the Gnostics, 1/3, sorry, not as much as that 1% of
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the human population, think of it this as a continuum at one
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end, 1% of the human population are aligned with the light
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multiverse. That's extremely positive.
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And those people have an innate sense of right and wrong and are
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creative. Are light workers at the other
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end of the continuum? 1% are those who on birth
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receive a fixed counterfeit spirit is the term used.
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So we have light workers at one end.
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Counterfeit spirit at the end of balanced Gnostics put it at 1%.
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Now these counterfeit spirits suffer from paranoia.
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Total service to self and are non creative and psychopathic.
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Not a very pleasant combination. So vibrationally speaking, these
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are very much opposites. Well, you might be asking what's
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in the middle. Well, according to Martin
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Colburn, who's spoken at several of my conferences I've run,
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questioning history and questioning science conferences,
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he had a bit of a download and was told that the people in the
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middle are dubbed empty vessels. And according to Martin Coburn,
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they have no innate spiritual orientation, no innate sense of
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right or wrong. They remain materially
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orientated, but they can be moved in either direction
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depending on how powerful the 1% at either end are.
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Currently the counterfeit controllers and perhaps the
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majority of these empty vessels are veering towards that dark
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end, but they have the capacity, those people in the middle, the
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98%, to absorb the light or the dark of the groups around them.
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And so we can perhaps try and do what we can to, without sounding
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arrogant, really do the work of the light source and try and
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move people gently in the direction of the 1% light
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source. Keep that in the background when
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we come on to talk about transhumanism or the trans and
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the transhumanism. Meanwhile, just like to add two
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other things. This comes from my research
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journeys of several decades really, And the first is from my
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work, which I talked about with you, Diane, on gender and
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design. How person sex, biological sex,
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influences the visual graphic creations that they produce,
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having an enormous impact both on the themes and also the style
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of what's produced and also on people's preferences.
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It's what we were saying, but in many studies I've conducted, the
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conclusion was that quite unconsciously, males preferred
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designs created by males, while females created preferred
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designs created by females. So we have the very weird
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situation where most purchases are made by an army of female
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shoppers, 83% of all purchases, and yet most design is in the
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hands of men who will tend to prefer male type design.
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It really doesn't make sense at all.
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We need this all needs to be changed.
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But as part of that research I discovered a very rich vein of
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research done over the course of the 20th century and a bit
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beyond, comparing the drawings and paintings created by
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children and young adults. Just to give you a flavour very
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quickly because you haven't got time for anything more today.
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But an early study in London by researcher Ballard, this was
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1912, an enormous sample. He gathered 20,000 drawings, Can
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you imagine, from children aged 6 to 10 years of age.
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And what Ballard found was that 20, well more than 20% of the
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boys drawings showed ships as compared to only 9% of the
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girls. And in 1924, short while later
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over in the US, another researcher McCarty with an even
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bigger sample, this was 31,000 drawings of children aged just 4
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to 8. What she found was that the boys
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showed a vast preference compared to girls for drawing
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vehicles and tools. So if you take the male
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propensity as 100%, the girl's propensity to draw vehicles was
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only 22%. So there was a vast disparity in
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what she found in the drawings of these very young children.
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4:00 to 8:00. And then moving on in TIME 1977,
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a study by Hargreaves. This was up in Durham, not far,
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I think from where you're living currently, Diane.
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We found in the, again, a comparison of the drawings of
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girls and boys aged 10A significant difference in the
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propensity to draw the mechanical with, guess what, the
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boys showing a significantly greater propensity to draw the
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mechanical than the girls. Well, maybe you'll see in a
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little bit when we get on to the trans and transhumanist why I'm
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drawing attention to the male propensity for the mechanical as
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against. I haven't talked about this, but
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the female propensity to draw human life and life in all its
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forms, including plants that comes out very strongly from
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these studies. And then after after the going
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got rather difficult to say the least.
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Continuing with this research on sex and design, I moved on to
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study of leadership because my background is in human
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resources. I'm a fellow of the CIPD, the
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main organisation for organisational psychology and
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studied, conducted a study into best practise leadership, which
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is in this book Inclusive Leadership published by
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Rutledge. And what you can discover on the
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literature of leadership is very, very interesting where the
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subject of sex is concerned. Sex, I mean biological sex at
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this point. It's not a salacious book in
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that, in that way that's. A bit disappointing.
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So you get too excited about this book, but essentially it's
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been found by several researchers that men by and
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large have a very strong preference for exercising a
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style of leadership called transactional leadership.
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And that's the style they like to have exercised over
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themselves as well. And this, if you want to have a
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picture of transactional, I was going to say what George Orwell
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said, think of a boot coming down on your face.
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But let's be more serious in terms of the competences, they
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include monitoring followers performance and correcting
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mistakes. It's a very hands off approach
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until things go wrong. You had an interesting comment
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about this time in terms of how it may have influenced the
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university system. This this emphasis in
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transactional leadership on monitoring followers performance
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and creating mistakes. Yeah, I, I noticed it
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increasingly during through my university career where
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everything was transactional and education and research aren't
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necessarily always transactional.
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By then I meant things like learning objectives for
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students. And I've heard other people
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discuss this recently about the you're setting objectives for
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the students saying this is what they will learn by the end of a
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course or the end of a module, that these are the things that
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they will learn. They might learn something
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totally different, which is wonderful.
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Whatever they learn is what they learn.
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It's also the same with how performance is measured of
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academics now where you have to, you have to bring in a certain
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amount of money per year that increases based on your rank.
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It has to be a certain type of money.
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But of course, by the time I left, it was all about getting
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money from the UK research councils and only doing research
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that supported the development of the UN Sustainable
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Development Goals. But that's a different issue
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the, the pass rate of students so that you could have a
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wonderful group of students and everyone passes, you could have
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a horrible group of students and everyone fails, but you had to
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have a certain pass rate, which is like, you know, 67% or
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whatever it is, the target was that they set for you.
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So basically you're, you're creating transactions about
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absolutely everything, as well as the type of research in my
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field that was, that was meant to be the best was only anything
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that was statistical. Never mind the fact that a lot
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of people using statistics didn't know how to use them
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appropriately and they would use the wrong test, which, you know,
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basically using things the wrong way.
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But as long as they had statistics there, it was still
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OK. Because that was more valuable
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than the type of qualitative research that I used to do,
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which was actually interviewing and engaging with people to find
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out how they worked with information and what kinds of
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communications that they preferred.
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That was again to me because I created rapport with the people
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that I worked with and learned more from them than I ever would
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have learned from doing a statistical test with them.
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That was, I guess, I guess you could say a more female approach
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because of the relational engagement aspect, but that was
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considered to not have been as useful as well.
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OK, but what percent of people said this or when you ran at
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Test what happened or whatever the issue was?
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So I was seeing it as well that sort of the more, I guess you
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from what you're saying, sort of the more female approach
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potentially to research and teaching was not as valued as
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highly as it should have been. And you know, we all have
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important things to add, but not apparently not anymore in the in
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this sort of university model that we're now facing.
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Unfortunately, really interesting that you talk about
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a series of transactions because that's very much part of what
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how a transaction or leader would view the task of
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leadership or management. Not not in human terms, but as a
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series of transactions. And, and, and the the finding
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that males and females have very different preferences both in
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how they are led and how they lead themselves has come out of
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many, many people's work. First of all, there was a
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Rosener in the States, followed by Eadley 2023 and then in
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Britain over here, Beverly Alima Metcalf did some fabulous work.
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She was based up at Leeds University showing the
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differences in, by and large, male and male preferences.
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So think of the male preference in leadership terms as
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transactional, as as a desire to impose, as you say, darling,
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objectives to control the territory.
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Control I think is very much the governing principle of
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transactions rather than, as you say, just letting students learn
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whatever they choose to learn. So control is the name of the
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game, I think now skipping several centuries on from the
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Gnostics in the Book of Revelations, We'll, we'll we'll
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now chart, I think the movement, the progressive movement that
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has has got us to where we are today in terms of the
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transhumanist agenda. And some people would say that
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transhumanism represents the mesonic aim of assisting
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humanity in evolving to merge with a cosmic consciousness,
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with a similar idea as we'll see emerging from the Fabian
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Society. And we ask ourselves, ah, is
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this work, this transhumanist journey?
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Is this continuing the work of the Archons that we mentioned as
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part of? The Gnostic description of the
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framework in which humans find themselves is the true
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transhumanist agenda. Continuing the work of the arch.
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You be the judge. So let's begin by charting the
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journey. I I've put Mary Shelley's
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Frankenstein at the beginning because I didn't think we could
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really talk about transhumanism without consideration of that.
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We all know the story of how Frankenstein creates a monster.
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Well, doesn't create a monster, creates a being out of dead
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parts of people in cemeteries, and then this rather unsightly
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individual becomes rejected by society and so develops
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monstrous psychological characteristics.
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Now apparently this book was written while Mary Shelley was
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in Switzerland, in the company not only of Shelley, who became
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her husband, but also Lord Byron.
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And they took it in turns to write ghost stories because the
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weather was bad and they were cooped up and, and, and thought
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that would be a good thing to do.
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And Lord Byron's father was a Freemason.
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And could it be that her novel was a critique of the merger of
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the human with this wider consciousness?
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Who knows? But certainly you wouldn't come
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away from reading Frankenstein thinking that the creation of a
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mechanical, a mechanical, part mechanical, part human creature
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with something to emulate. I don't.
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Think no. Yeah.
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Well, next we we come to HG Wells, author of The Time
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Machine and the 1940 book New World Order, a non fiction work
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which outlines plans for a socialist one world government.
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That book includes the Human Rights Declaration, which served
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as the basis for the UN Universal Declaration of Human
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Rights. But I wrote an article on the
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Fabian Society for UK column. Maybe it's about a month ago.
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It was excellent. Thank you again for it.
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Well, no, thank you, thank you Don.
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And he was a member of the Fabian Society.
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And so this does this doesn't have a good feeling to to when
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you've read the article and found out about some of the
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agendas of the Fabian Society have, which includes the
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eugenics agenda and a pseudo communist agenda and a New World
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order agenda. You might might say, well, this
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isn't again, something terribly desirable.
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But he also wrote Absolester Notebook 1896.
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That was the island of Doctor Morrow MOREAU, and that's about
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a mad scientist creating human animal hybrids.
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So is that a template for some of the thinking that's going on
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today? And you talked to me a bit about
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that before we came on Air Dine, the animal human hybrid.
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Yeah, and they're starting it very early in childhood.
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So for people that know my coverage and my, my work around
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trying to protect children from all of this, there are, for
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example, picture books 1 is called a boy who wanted to be a
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deer. For example, it's a picture book
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obviously meant for very young children who starts out with a
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boy saying, oh, I would be so much happier if I were a deer.
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And then his family and everyone says, oh, that's so wonderful.
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You can be whatever you want to be.
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And then I think by the end of the book, he's wearing antlers
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that he's placed on his head or something like that.
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And he's so much happier and his family is so happy that he has
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found out who he really is. And so we see this in in and
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there's a lot of other examples of this as well.
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There's there was also reports of, I believe it might have been
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last year in 2024, maybe before that, reports in Scotland of
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someone allowing a child to identify as a cat bringing
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litter trays into schools. And there was one who was
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identifying as a wolf, I believe somewhere in the Highlands.
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I'll try to find some leaks and I'll put them in the write up
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for this interview just so that people see that I'm not making
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this up. That this is actually the
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parents and the schools being so brainwashed by the state that
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they're pushing this agenda on to children, thinking that
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they're doing the right thing for them.
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And obviously the rest of us can see the kind of harm it's going
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to do to them when they grow up believing that they can actually
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become an animal and that that's OK.
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And we're supposed to go along with this delusion.
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It's it's absolutely despicable. So there was HG Wells writing
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The Island of Doctor Morrow, that was 1896, about a scientist
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creating a human animal hybrids. Moving on, when we meet Aldous
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Huxley, a fellow member of the Fabian Society, along with his
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brother Julian Huxley, and it's thought that in his work, for
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example, Brave New World 1932 and with George Orwell, who has
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been described also as a member of the Fabian Society, he was
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taught by Aldous Huxley at Eton. It's thought that what both of
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these men were doing was merely fictionalising the globalist,
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transhumanist plans of their fellow Fabians.
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And they're very different, these two books.
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Obviously The Brave New World in 1984 of George Orwell.
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And we'll talk about that more in a little bit when we look at
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a lecture that Aldous Huxley gave in 1962 in Berkeley where
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he picks up on that. But just sort of remember that
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for the time being, so if you like, these are forays into the
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world of mingling, mixing the human with something non human,
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interfering with human biology in one way or another.
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Brave New World does this in in in a very obvious way by talking
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about breeding centres that have been set up.
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There is no normal reproduction between males and females.
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No longer happens in Brave New World.
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It's all done in laboratory conditions.
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Yes, was the. Director of hatcheries or
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something like that. Who's in charge of it?
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Yeah. And so that so that 1932 Brave
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new World on my chronology, I put next Simone de Beauvoir and
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her work The Second Sex, which was published in 1949.
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And here we're moving into a study of what it is to be a
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human through a different lens. I would suggest in that book,
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Simone de Beauvoir wrote, one is not born but becomes a woman.
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Sociologists might interpret that as meaning that femininity
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is is a construct, a social construct.
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But it's a strange statement to say the least, because every one
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of the 70 trillion cells with a nucleus in the human body is
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stamped either XX or XY. So let me just say that phrase
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again. One is not born but becomes a
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woman, a biologist or anybody with the same mind, I would say
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would not, could not possibly buy into that statement.
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One is born a female from a biological standpoint, from a
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biological standpoint. And I did suggest when we were
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talking about design and the shoulder, I think talked about a
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photo that I've seen of Simone de Beauvoir with her partner
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Jean Paul Sartre, that she towered over him.
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And I just asked the question whether Sidman de Beauvoir was
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actually born female. Because if if that were not the
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case, then this sentence would take on a whole new meaning. 1
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is not born but becomes a woman. Maybe we have here a statement
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about somebody becoming a trans woman.
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I, I would, yeah, I would beg to differ for any of these people
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who are now trying to become women or saying that they are
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women and whether or not they've ever lived through a monthly
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period, because that's, that's definitely something that I
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think crosses into belief. And I, I just wanted to mention
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these. I just thought of these Gloria,
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the Protect and Teach conference that you and I both spoke at
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with Kathy Mudge and her group earlier this year.
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This lady was passing out some some stones with writing on
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them. And she makes a lot of these so
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that people can leave them around at at bus stops or
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wherever. And just a couple I wanted to
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share with the audience. 1 here says trans ideology is a belief.
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It is not fact. And that's what I think, you
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know, that's what an ideology is, right?
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It's belief. And this one is stop gender
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affirming butchery. So I'm afraid that what we're
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about to cover with the transhumanism elements, we're
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not just butchering, you know, reproductive organs, but we're
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also looking at butchering the, the essence of what it is to be
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a human and, and, and where this leads to.
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So it, it, it's very dark, but we have to, we have to look at
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what they're doing so. And we're looking at the
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chronology and the history, if you like, of, of that's LED us
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to where we are today with the transhumanist agenda.
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Important to note, I think that Simone de Beauvoir and Jean Paul
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Sartre were both part of the Faun de Libajacion de paedophile
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acronym FLIP. FLIP, very disturbing back then
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and many pillars of of the French community.
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Likewise were supporters of FLIP were in favour of reducing the
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age of consent of children. The next landmark I've noted
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down here, certainly where gender is concerned, we'll come
32:06
back to the transhuman in a minute, is 1957 with the work of
32:13
Doctor John Money, who has pushed the trans ideology in in
32:21
a very big way. He stated that biology does not
32:25
matter in relation to gender and that people are born gender
32:30
neutral. His phrase?
32:32
Not my phrase, which defies biology.
32:37
Interesting to note that he was a public supporter of
32:42
paedophilia and inset. He was apparently a deviant
32:47
child abuser and so he has that in common.
32:50
If you like the the the support of paedophilia with Simone de
32:54
Beauvoir and who was a leading exponent of the notion that we
32:59
are not the sum of our biology. And then just to log this on the
33:08
timeline in 1950, we're back to the transhumanist here.
33:13
And I do think the trans agenda feeds into the transhumanist
33:16
because it provides the origin for the idea that the human body
33:22
as gifted, if you like, by the light source.
33:26
It provides the the idea that that can be interfered with.
33:31
It's legitimate in some way to interfere with that.
33:36
In 1950, Julian Huxley, another member of the Fabian Society,
33:42
coined the term transhumanist in his book New Bottles for New
33:47
Wine. Let's just pick up a little bit
33:52
on the trans agenda before we move on and focus exclusively on
33:59
the transhumanist. And when I was at the conference
34:04
with you, Diane, I talked about how how about the attempt to
34:13
deny the biological basis of sex.
34:17
And as part of that, I mentioned the work of Martine Rothblatt,
34:24
used to be Martin, but now Martine, who in 1995 wrote the
34:30
book The Apartheid of Sex. So I'm just going to read very
34:35
couple of sentences, that's all from this book by Martine
34:39
Rothblatt. It stated there that the general
34:42
rules don't determine your sex and that you can choose
34:46
whichever gender you want. There is a gender fluidity that
34:51
crosses the entire continuum from male to female.
34:57
The book talks about separate male and female genders as a
35:01
constructed fiction. Maybe you should be showing
35:06
those stones again. What do you think?
35:10
Trans ideology is a belief. It is not fact.
35:14
And stop gender affirming butchery.
35:21
It that's, you know, it's, it's interesting because this whole
35:24
idea of gender being on a spectrum is one of the things
35:28
that I lost my academic career over speaking out against,
35:32
against this ideology and what it was doing to people.
35:36
And you know, I guess there's different models, but there's, I
35:39
think the most common one. I think it's 72 genders that
35:42
exist. There's maybe there's more I
35:45
haven't checked in a few months, but the idea that all of these
35:48
these things are, are different genders and it's, you know, I,
35:52
I, I really, I feel it's, it's, they call it being progressive,
35:56
but I personally, I don't know what you think find it
35:59
regressive because it it, it, it's, it's making a lot of
36:04
assumptions. I think that if you don't, if
36:09
you don't fit into certain boxes, then, you know, then you
36:13
need to be trans. And I think that's one of the
36:15
things that's happening to children that obviously I grew
36:18
up to be a woman in every way possible.
36:21
But when I was younger, I had interest in science.
36:25
So even though I wasn't maybe, you know, a boy in other ways,
36:30
which I obviously wasn't, my interests were in science and
36:33
space and computers, but I still obviously have the all of the
36:38
feminine characteristics. So I think it's one of those
36:41
things where if you believe, and I never believed I was a boy and
36:46
I never felt masculine, I just had different interests.
36:48
But it goes back to what Doctor Jenny Cunningham has said.
36:51
And I've been to her interviewed here previously on UK column
36:54
where she says that this idea of gender dysphoria that we're
36:57
feeding into children, that you need to maybe change your gender
37:03
because of this. Or that because you have you
37:05
feel like a boy or felt like you're born in the the wrong
37:08
body is actually something to do with the state of our brains.
37:12
Whether it's a result of some people believe it's it has to do
37:16
with autistic traits. Some people believe it has to do
37:18
with other mental health conditions.
37:20
But she said it's the only thing in the NHS where they are using
37:24
something that is affecting through through your brain and
37:28
responding to it by the physical process of giving you hormones.
37:32
Or, or as we get more and more intense about it, removing body
37:38
parts and adding new ones, Which again, actually is rather
37:41
transactional, isn't it? That if you just decide that
37:44
you're going to remove your breasts and, and you know, what
37:47
they do is they, they, you know, RIP skin off your arm to create
37:51
a male body part and attach it to you.
37:54
But you are now a man That is actually.
37:55
I just thought of that as actually try rather
37:58
transactional isn't? It it's very true and it's a
38:00
focus on the mechanical, whereas in fact I kind of talked about
38:05
this in our last interview. Differences across all 5 senses
38:13
are strongly manifested and and Professor Geary wrote a whole
38:20
book on that of a cognitive sex differences looking at their
38:25
manifestation across all 5 senses.
38:28
Changing boobs, other body parts isn't going to change any of
38:32
that. As I said the visual which is
38:37
the area I focused on for over 20 years.
38:40
Psychologists are saying that men's eyes are spaced on average
38:44
5 millimetres further apart than than females, giving them better
38:50
stereoscopic vision. Well that may have been well
38:53
adapted to hunting females. 4th colour pigment, allegedly
39:00
therein 50% of women, may have been an adaptive mechanism for
39:04
Berry picking. Hunter gathering is is what we
39:09
were doing apparently for 99% of human history.
39:12
But you're not going to change any of that by removing boobs or
39:16
other body parts. Yeah, those, those, those
39:19
differences will will remain. But going back to Martine
39:24
Rothblatt, if I may for a minute, didn't stop at that
39:27
book, went on to write another one in 2011.
39:31
It termed transgender transhuman.
39:35
And this is where we see the way that trans can be a stepping
39:39
stone to the transhuman. And in fact, we can read
39:44
explicitly in this book the following statements.
39:49
Here's a quote. In Transcending Biology,
39:53
technology offers an explosion of sexual identities and human
39:59
identities, leading to transhumanism and hybrid human
40:06
computer species. So you can see how the trans can
40:12
be a stepping stone. Well, quite explicitly,
40:16
according to Martine Rufflapp to the Transhuman, and just to echo
40:21
what you were saying, it is anomalous that mental health is
40:27
dealt with through physical interventions in the way that
40:31
you described, whereas normally mental health is not dealt with
40:35
in that way. Today we see reference to gender
40:39
affirming care. That's the phrase that's used
40:43
and it's thought that by 2032 that this will be worth, it's a
40:49
big industry, this will have a value of $1.9 billion.
40:55
Let's hope that that projection doesn't come to pass.
40:59
And certainly there's a massive rise in the numbers of people
41:07
who are experiencing what used to be called gender identity
41:10
disorder in the DSM. That's the Bible of mental and
41:14
health conditions and is now referred to as gender dysphoria.
41:19
The the numbers have skyrocketed from figures from the London
41:24
Tavistocks Gender Identity Disorder Service back in 2000
41:30
and 9/10/77 patients to the figure for 2021 to 2022.
41:38
You might those listening want to hazard a guess as to what
41:43
that has increased to the 77. It's now it's increased to 3585,
41:54
which is an explosion, increased by over 4000% in that period of
42:04
more or less 10 years. So something is happening here,
42:10
something's perhaps being pushed, being being given the
42:25
imprimatum of how can we put it down normal, it's being
42:29
normalised. Oh, absolutely it is.
42:32
And, and, and, you know, on the, on the political side of this
42:36
with the Supreme Court ruling that we had earlier this year
42:40
about the reality of biological sex.
42:43
It, it, it, what I, what I have seen happening, just
42:47
anecdotally, just watching the news and watching social media
42:50
and, and watching the people who are supporting this is that it's
42:53
actually made them a bit stronger about supporting
42:59
transgenderism and changing genders.
43:02
And because they're very angry at all all of the sides, you
43:06
know, which is, and it's interesting, considering that
43:09
Keir Starmer is our Prime Minister when this all happened,
43:12
that they're even angry at Keir Starmer, the Fabian, who is a
43:15
Fabian and all of these other, you know, I think you've, you
43:18
were the one who pointed out that half of our cabinet
43:21
currently are Fabians potentially.
43:24
And that are, you know, around half of all of the Labour MPs
43:27
are somehow associated with the Fabians.
43:31
But this still happens in the Supreme Court, which, you know,
43:34
you have to wonder why is it that obviously the people that
43:38
really believe in it or are told they have to believe in it
43:40
because of their BlackRock ESG scores and their companies or
43:43
whatever it is that is making them do this or in the schools.
43:46
But they're still even, I think pushing down on this even harder
43:51
to make it a reality, even though the country has now the
43:56
Supreme Court has now ruled, no, this is not a thing.
43:58
But they're, they're making it even more of a thing now.
44:01
So it's actually had, I think, backlash rather than relief for
44:05
those of us on the side of it to see how how evil it is.
44:11
I think there is, there are signs of change, but the, you
44:14
know, NHS is changing some of its practises now, but it's
44:18
slow. Yeah.
44:20
Anyway, continuing the timeline, because we want to get up to the
44:23
present day, I suppose I'd put Aldous Huxley's talk lecture
44:28
that he gave at Berkeley in 1962 on this timeline myself.
44:35
Well worth listening or reading the transcript of the talk he
44:39
gave, which he termed the Ultimate Revolution and ACA a
44:47
blueprint to Enslave the masses. And what he describes here is
44:59
how we can improve on previous revolutions which used violence
45:04
and shift in the environment as the main modus operandi
45:09
operandi. We can improve on that by
45:11
focusing our attention not on the environment around the
45:15
individual, but on the individual themselves.
45:19
And that's basically the theme of the lecture that Aldous
45:23
Huxley, another member of the Fabian Society, gave in 1962.
45:31
Just reading directly from what he said, we can contemplate, he
45:34
said the ultimate final revolution when man can act
45:39
directly on the mind body of fellow man.
45:46
And so this is what he sketches. And it's, it's extraordinary
45:52
really. What, what, what, what he states
45:55
here. Be sure to put the the full text
45:58
of that talk in the the write up for this interview so people can
46:02
read the full. Just to give you a few a few
46:04
pointers, he states that scientific dictators,
46:08
dictatorships of the future will be closer to the pattern of
46:12
Brave New World than 1984 by Georgia.
46:16
Well, because it is more efficient, he says You're likely
46:21
to have a much more lasting and controlled society than in the
46:25
Orwell type society because he's talking about taking over the
46:30
minds of human beings rather than their environments, and
46:37
getting people to enjoy their slavery rather than impose the
46:44
slavery on people through violence.
46:46
You will own nothing and be happy.
46:49
Yes, shades of that, I think definitely in this lecture of
46:54
Aldous Huxley. So he writes dictators will
47:01
become more interested in the type of techniques employed in
47:04
Brave New World and this will be the ultimate revolution,
47:09
scientific dictatorship. So he talks about how do you
47:15
induce consent, how do you get people to love their servitude?
47:19
And I've just noted down 3 aspects that he refers to. 1st
47:25
is very interesting Pavlovian conditioning, which we all know
47:30
about, you know, Pavlov and the dog.
47:33
He so says that the power of, of conditioning is enhanced by
47:39
states of psychological or physical distress or fatigue.
47:49
Psychological distress. I I think we had a lot of that
47:53
in the years 2020 to 2024, which might have enhanced the
47:59
Pavlovian conditioning. He talks about the way Hitler
48:02
organised a lot of the rallies at night when people were more
48:06
tired so that the conditioning had a greater effect.
48:11
So that's the first point. The second point he signposts is
48:15
suggestion and hypnosis. And of course in in the book
48:21
that I wrote with Kathy and Oratich on critical thinking, I
48:26
added a section on the television after I realised the
48:29
power that it has to put people into hypnotic states.
48:33
So actually the television is an immensely powerful tool of
48:38
suggestion and hypnosis. But what Walters Huxley states
48:45
about hypnosis is fascinating. I think he's he talks about the
48:49
fact that 20% of the population are easily suggestible and by
48:56
contrast another 20% of the population is it cannot be
49:02
easily hypnotised, cannot be hypnotised with ease.
49:06
So you have these polar opposites, the suggestible and
49:10
those who are not suggestible. Could that mirror in some ways
49:15
the continuum that the Gnostics presented us with?
49:18
Do you remember that the light workers one end 1% and then the
49:25
dark forces the other represented in the same numbers?
49:30
Perhaps that's what we're seeing in these 20 percents that Aldous
49:34
Huxley is talking about. And he suggests that we can
49:40
actually categorise humans according to their
49:43
suggestibility. And maybe what the Gnostics said
49:49
wasn't really wrong at all, that we we should think in terms of a
49:54
continuum of counter spirits at one end and light forces at the
49:58
other. And the third thing he talks
50:02
about is electrodes. Already when he was writing in
50:06
1962, UCLA was conducting experiments with rats that had
50:12
electrodes implanted into the pleasure centres of their
50:16
brains. It's quite funny actually at
50:18
this point, because he said that the rats were so delighted by
50:24
the effects of the electrodes that they could press on a bar
50:28
18,000 times a day. But should they should should a
50:32
day go by when the the possibility of pressing on the
50:37
bar elapsed, then the the day following the rats would press
50:43
36,000 days to deliver the pleasure to those centres of the
50:48
brain in which the electrodes were placed.
50:51
Sounds. Like the rats had an addiction
50:53
problem. But then she was talking about
50:59
this in 1962, about how best to control the human race.
51:04
Is this rather transactional, this whole emphasis on
51:08
controlling humans rather than, as you said earlier, Diane,
51:13
allowing people to learn in whichever way they'd like?
51:17
Well, and you know, we, we saw this as well, you know, Brian
51:20
Garish covered this so well in 2020.
51:23
And on the, the, the Mindspace document, the, the behavioural
51:27
insights team, the Spidey team, all of these agencies that were
51:32
working in the background on behalf of the government to
51:36
figure out the best ways to control us in 2020 and 2021.
51:41
And that's, that's all easily findable online.
51:44
It's all there, all of the plans that they had for the nudge
51:46
unit, the behavioural changes and then the media campaign that
51:51
followed. And I've presented on this
51:54
before. I, I presented on this, on the
51:57
Common Knowledge Edinburgh talk that I did at the Scottish
51:59
People's COVID Inquiry, showing exactly how this was done based
52:03
on examples from the media as well as examples from these
52:06
policy documents. It's, it's all, it's all very
52:10
much out there. So this was all all planned much
52:14
earlier, I think we're seeing before 2020.
52:18
And the name of the game is control.
52:20
Control of human beings rather than their ability to flourish
52:25
in environment that affords them freedom.
52:29
Well, the next thing I have on my chronology is the
52:33
establishment of the Machine Intelligence Research Institute,
52:37
Miri. Miri in 2005 and leading lights,
52:45
if you can call them that, in, in in.
52:47
Miri included Ray Kurzweil, a head of engineering at Google
52:52
and one of the modern prophets of transhumanism.
52:58
He believes that we are partly organic tissue and partly or can
53:03
become partly mechanical parts. He foresees would like to see a
53:08
merger of biology and technology.
53:14
Also on the Advisory Board of Miri is Doctor Nick Bostrom,
53:20
Swede who's a philosopher at Oxford University who's written
53:25
about personality pills and super intelligent machines.
53:31
And would you want this on your CV?
53:34
He's Co founded the World Transhumanist Association.
53:39
Oh oh, I wonder if that got him promoted.
53:44
I don't think I'd want that on mine but anyway and also
53:48
connection with Mary is PayPal Co founder Peter Thiel.
53:52
That's THIEL. And he's also CEO of data
53:58
analytics firm Palantir Technologies, and they have lots
54:03
of government contracts. That company in June last year
54:07
only he was asked in an interview, this is Peter Thiel,
54:11
whether he thought the human race should survive.
54:17
And after a long pause, he replied, yes.
54:23
But so that Miri was established in 2005 and 10 years later, we
54:36
have another book popping up. That's by Yuval Harari, who is a
54:40
professor and closely associated with the WEF.
54:45
His book has the striking title Homo Deus Man of God, A Brief
54:51
History of Tomorrow. And essentially what he
54:58
describes in this book, which you can access free freely
55:01
online, is how Homo sapiens has survived starvation, plagues,
55:07
wars. And now the next stage beckons.
55:10
He says I'll just read you his words without the without the
55:16
accent that goes with it. Having having reduced mortality
55:24
from starvation, disease and violence, we will now aim to
55:29
overcome old age and even death itself.
55:33
Having saved people from abject misery, we will now aim to make
55:37
them positively happy again. Shades of you will earn nothing
55:44
and be happy and having raised humanity above the beastly level
55:48
of survival struggles, we will now aim to upgrade humans into
55:52
gods and turn Homo sapiens into Homo Deus IE divinity.
55:59
He adds that it will be necessary to change our
56:02
biochemistry and re engineer our bodies and minds.
56:07
A a small price to pay for the a great project of the 21st
56:13
century to ensure global happiness, which involves re
56:18
engineering Homo sapiens so that it can enjoy everlasting
56:22
pleasure. Death.
56:25
Just a technical problem that can be overcome.
56:31
So what can we say in seeking bliss and immortality?
56:36
He's in track, in fact, trying to upgrade Homo sapiens into
56:41
gods. Well, what's to say we're not
56:42
gods already? And I'll come to that at the
56:45
end. What's to say we're not already
56:48
gods? What's to say that we don't
56:51
already have divine qualities that the control in society has?
56:57
I can't. I'm trying to think of the right
57:06
verb has diminished, has substantially diminished, has
57:12
not allowed allowed to flower. And he talks about the three
57:20
paths to the upgrading as if we're computer systems of
57:26
humans, biological engineering, Cyborg engineering and the
57:31
engineering of non organic beings.
57:35
So you can read about that in his book.
57:40
We'll talk about right at the end, we'll have a discussion
57:43
about is he missing the point here?
57:47
Are are we not already divine beings that don't need any of
57:50
this upgrading, we just need to have the control pedal relaxed?
57:57
This is what I would say anyway. And I would also say that I
58:00
think many of his assumptions on which he builds his case are
58:05
completely wrong. Just to make 3 points this he
58:09
suggests that famines and plagues which beleaguered humans
58:15
over centuries were all natural. But what's to say that these
58:20
were not all engineered events as you might say of current day
58:25
plagues and pandemics? He suggests that hammer sapiens
58:33
is part of an evolutionary process, but a lot of voices are
58:38
debunking evolution. He suggests that human health
58:47
could be improved by re engineering humans, but what
58:51
about improving human health by not disallowing certain
58:56
treatment protocols and by reforming mainstream medicine?
59:01
He doesn't consider any of those aspects to the presumptions that
59:08
he makes. So it's, I would say it's a very
59:11
misguided text, but it's an important one to be aware of if
59:16
we're trying to understand the transhuman agenda.
59:21
Sorry, I think I you wanted to say something, Diane.
59:24
No, no, no. That's I was just thinking if I
59:30
don't know if you have any more to go past this because it
59:32
sounds like we're getting pretty close to the present day.
59:34
So I'm wondering, just watching the time, if we could maybe?
59:38
Yeah. Talk a little bit about, you
59:40
know, where do we go from here? We're coming.
59:43
We're coming very close to the present day.
59:45
On my timeline, I've included Klaus Schwab's book The 4th
59:49
Industrial Revolution 2017. That's just two years after
59:53
Harare's. He talks about the fusion of
59:56
biological systems with technical systems to create a
1:00:00
whole new world. Then we've got Elon Musk
1:00:04
neurolink, very similar ideas there in 2018.
1:00:11
We can put we can upload a link to the Provost of Ghent
1:00:14
University, Petra Desuter, who you might describe as a trans
1:00:21
person describing Aldous Huxley's book Brave New World as
1:00:28
visionary. That's basically the theme of a
1:00:31
Ted talk that Petra de Suta gave in 2018, how technological
1:00:40
reproduction could replace what is described as old fashioned
1:00:46
reproduction. Then we go back to the director
1:00:50
of Hatchery's Brave New World and, and then we go into the
1:00:53
current day where, you know, if you are a couple of the same
1:00:58
sex, then there's technology available to make you a child
1:01:01
that you don't even have to have a man and a woman together.
1:01:05
This is the theme. This is the theme of the Ted
1:01:08
talk by Promised of Ghent University.
1:01:13
Petra Desuta even talks about the world of Tetlo technological
1:01:22
reproduction in which three or four people could create a child
1:01:30
extraordinary. And we're coming very close to
1:01:38
the present day. 20. I just want to signpost the fact
1:01:41
that the Welcome Trust which is the U KS largest provider of non
1:01:46
governmental funding for scientific research.
1:01:50
They're also a publisher of books and two books published
1:01:59
which might, which might, which you might not be aware of.
1:02:04
Which I discovered by by accident one day when I was
1:02:08
having coffee in the Welcome Trust centre in the Houston Rd
1:02:12
in London and there was a table stacked stacked with books and I
1:02:15
took a look. Here are two of the titles on
1:02:19
that table. 2021 After the Storm, Post Natal Depression and
1:02:25
the Utter Weirdness of New Motherhood by Emma Unsworth.
1:02:31
This book. I went back the next day to take
1:02:33
a close look at these books. This book refers to the quotes
1:02:37
alienation, desperation and exhaustion after birth.
1:02:45
Some people say it's a joyous, it's a joyous time after that.
1:02:49
I mean, I had a caesarean after I gave birth to my son.
1:02:52
It, it was painful, but I, you know, very, very joyous time.
1:02:57
Then another book on this pile was published 2023, just two
1:03:02
years back, the title Eve the Disobedient Future of birth.
1:03:08
Yep, you heard that right Eve, The Disobedient Future of Birth
1:03:13
by Claire Horne. They obviously like this book at
1:03:16
the Welcome Trust Centre because it was on the doors in the
1:03:20
women's toilets. Just to give you a a very quick
1:03:26
sense of this book, Chapter 6 entitled The Tyranny of Biology.
1:03:35
The real tyranny is our inability, she says, to
1:03:39
relinquish archaic ideas of sex and gender.
1:03:46
She says that the view that there are only two sexes is so
1:03:49
entrenched. Well, it's biologically correct
1:03:55
and on page 179 states that the idea that artificial wombs could
1:04:00
be used to address gendered inequity in reproductive labour
1:04:07
is compelling. So this chimes with the raptures
1:04:13
belief that Brave New World is visionary, that we need to move
1:04:17
to a world of technical reproduction and have it old
1:04:22
fashioned. The Handmaid's Tale as well
1:04:25
right where you have the you have the handmaid stepping in as
1:04:29
I don't know if you know the Handmaid's Tale.
1:04:30
We have the handmaid's stepping in because the the wealthy wives
1:04:34
that are married to the the commanding husbands where mostly
1:04:39
because of what had happened in the world, were infertile.
1:04:42
So these handmaids, who were the women identified as still being
1:04:46
able to have children, were literal stand in surrogates for
1:04:50
the wives, and then they gave the baby up once they gave
1:04:54
birth. To the child.
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So there's a genre of books, it seems, yes, absolutely.
1:05:02
That that nature or the light source hasn't done a good enough
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job, right? Well, let's.
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Let's move on to that a bit. Before we get to the positive,
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Yeah, just only if I could. Just last year, a prime mover
1:05:20
and shaker in the world of artificial intelligence, Sir
1:05:23
Geoffrey Hinton, British Board British Education, went over to
1:05:28
Canada, I believe, received the Nobel Prize last year for
1:05:34
physics. And in his exception speech last
1:05:39
year, he spoke of the need for forceful attention from
1:05:43
governments and international organisations towards research
1:05:48
on how to prevent these new beings from wanting to take
1:05:53
control. Which takes us back to
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Frankenstein, which is exactly what happens to the being
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created by Frankenstein. That takes control.
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And in fact, Hinton, not only did he speak out last year, but
1:06:09
in 2023, he resigned from Google, citing concerns about
1:06:14
the risks of AI technology, including the potential for
1:06:19
advanced AI systems to develop goals that are not aligned with
1:06:24
human values. So he's a courageous man and a
1:06:29
man who's prepared to put his life work to one side.
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How many people can we think of who are like that?
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And well, we've asked the question, is this counter
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natural? What we're seeing this whole
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transhumanist agenda, is it is it something we can associate
1:06:53
with the work of the Archons who want to interfere with the
1:06:59
rather wonderful creation of the light source according to the
1:07:03
Gnostics? Is this further, is this
1:07:06
transhumanist agenda that that's being played out with a lot of
1:07:10
money behind it? Is it a continuation of the
1:07:13
Archons work and an attack on the work of the light source?
1:07:20
Shall I just end with some some rather interesting thoughts from
1:07:25
Alex Collier in America? And then maybe we've still got
1:07:28
time to discuss this Alex Collier.
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Many of you might know his work. If not, you can find it on on
1:07:35
the Internet. He claims to be an an Andromedan
1:07:39
contactee and over many decades I should add, and I-1 in one of
1:07:50
the interviews, this is what you'll hear him say.
1:07:53
So I'm quitting his thoughts here.
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Natural humans are a race. He says that is genetic royalty.
1:08:03
And he says that on the basis of presuming that human DNA has
1:08:09
links with 21 star systems and is made up from genetic material
1:08:15
from 22 different races. And he says that this genetic
1:08:21
make up, what he calls genetic royalty, gives humans higher
1:08:28
dimensional souls that give them access to not just the third
1:08:33
dimension that many of us live in, but the 4th, the 5th, the
1:08:37
9th, the 11th. And while this may sound the
1:08:43
stuff of fancy, I've heard him talk also about Project
1:08:48
Blueberry Blue Brain, which is based in Switzerland and which
1:08:53
is actually found parts of the brain that can link to all these
1:08:59
other dimensions. And in linking to these
1:09:02
dimensions, this is what Alex Collier says our thoughts
1:09:05
transmit to all those dimensions across the universe.
1:09:10
Absolutely extraordinary stuff. And, and this leads Alex Collier
1:09:14
to state that there is actually no limit to what natural humans,
1:09:19
humans can accomplish. There are no bounds.
1:09:23
There are no limits to what we can accomplish, whether
1:09:26
spiritually or genetically, because of our make up.
1:09:31
And he goes on to say once you capture a soul in a mind matrix,
1:09:38
the soul is captured everywhere in all dimensions.
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And so conceivably this transhumanist agenda in
1:09:48
capturing human and souls will also be having an effect across
1:09:53
all dimensions in the universe. And and so what's happening now
1:10:04
is potentially extremely, extremely serious, not just for
1:10:09
life on Earth, but on life forms across the universe.
1:10:15
He he he he goes on to say that the universe is always going
1:10:18
through resets and there's a natural reset is coming in 20-30
1:10:24
and that the dark forces want to stop this by imposing their own
1:10:29
reset, which could be the transhumanist agenda to destroy
1:10:33
the human could also. Be the Agenda 20-30 that we all
1:10:37
know about. Exactly.
1:10:39
And so I suppose the message from Alex Collier is that we are
1:10:42
already royal, if you can use that term, with genetic royalty.
1:10:49
We don't need to be tampered with, we just need to have.
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Well, this would be my opinion anyway.
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We just need to have the foot taken off the control pedal.
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Very interesting and I guess that's a positive way to end
1:11:06
what has been a very, a very distressing conversation, but
1:11:12
also very necessary. This is very important
1:11:14
information to get out to the world.
1:11:17
I guess to add from my perspective again, once again,
1:11:22
it is not UK columns policy as an organisation to condone or
1:11:26
support or prescribe any sort of medical treatment or healing
1:11:31
treatment to to anyone. But I will say on a, on a
1:11:35
personal note that I'm a Reiki master teacher and have started,
1:11:40
I've been on this path for several years.
1:11:42
And one of the things that goes along with what Brian Garris
1:11:46
talks about all the time is that we are in a spiritual war.
1:11:50
And Brian doesn't necessarily name them the way you have just
1:11:54
done with the, the previous, the background research that you've
1:11:57
done, but that there is definitely a light and a dark
1:12:01
and that to, to win this battle that we're in and we can call it
1:12:05
whatever we want to that ultimately it's, it is light and
1:12:09
dark and we have to have the light to, to, to face the dark.
1:12:14
And I would say that in my work as a light worker, which is what
1:12:19
a Reiki, A Reiki practitioner is, or I'm in case I'm, I'm a
1:12:22
teacher as well, that we, we can channel that energy, we bring it
1:12:27
down to where it is needed. And I have seen myself first
1:12:33
hand positive effects in a range of ways in my practise over the
1:12:40
years. And whether or not you want to
1:12:43
believe in this, whether or not you want to see it somewhere
1:12:46
else or call it something else, maybe some people call it
1:12:50
they're following Christianity, following Jesus as a light
1:12:53
worker, whatever it is that that we believe that there is
1:12:57
definitely something out there that when we look at this and
1:13:00
what can we do to fight it? Well, what we have to do is in
1:13:03
whatever way, and I say this all the time to the audience,
1:13:06
whatever way that we find that is the most effective for us as
1:13:10
individuals. You don't have to become a Reiki
1:13:12
master teacher to fight it. You can just maybe have a laugh
1:13:16
a little bit more, you know, remember to connect with people,
1:13:19
have a good time, find joy, go out in nature, look at the
1:13:24
trees, go to the beach. Whatever it is that brings you
1:13:28
joy and happiness and makes you smile is one of the best things
1:13:31
that we can all do individually and it's one of the most
1:13:34
pleasurable and and and happiest ways that we can do it.
1:13:37
And we all know that the people on the other side of this hate
1:13:42
laughter and happiness. And I am sometimes criticised
1:13:46
for trying to bring laughter onto UK column that some people
1:13:50
like it. Some people think they just want
1:13:51
to hear the hardcore news. But the only way that we can
1:13:54
fight this is through light and laughter and joy and love and
1:13:57
connection and all of this human elements that they are trying to
1:14:01
take away from us by trying to make us into computers or
1:14:05
whatever it is that they're trying to do.
1:14:06
So I just want to say to the audience today with us
1:14:10
distressing information, what can you do?
1:14:12
Go out, enjoy yourselves, be happy, give someone a hug.
1:14:17
Whatever it is that that brings light into the world is going to
1:14:20
be the way that we can all fight back to, to fight this.
1:14:24
So thank you again, Gloria, for your time.
1:14:26
I always ask at the end of every interview, is there anything
1:14:29
else that you want to add that we haven't discussed already?
1:14:34
I would like to add that actually leadership and the
1:14:40
quality of leadership that we have both in organisations, in
1:14:45
governments and in our personal lives, the way we treat other
1:14:48
people, that can be completely transformative and it's what I
1:14:54
found through the research. I did mention it again,
1:14:57
inclusive leadership, that when you have the opposite of
1:15:01
transactional leadership, which is transformational in
1:15:05
combination with servant leadership, you create a world,
1:15:10
you create a powerhouse of productivity, zest for life,
1:15:15
motivation and mental well being.
1:15:18
And some of the competences that play out in that are empathy.
1:15:25
So if we can use that in our day to day lives, in the
1:15:28
interactions we have, that will make an enormous difference.
1:15:32
Listening to people, listening in a in an active sense, acting
1:15:37
on what you hear, giving people confidence, taking an interest
1:15:42
in other people. These are just some of the
1:15:44
competences in this miraculous form of leadership that some, a
1:15:51
few wonderful organisations are already using it.
1:15:55
If we have this instead of the toxic rather the toxic
1:15:59
transactional top down leadership, then we can bring a
1:16:03
new world into being relatively easily.
1:16:08
Thank you very much for that, Gloria.
1:16:09
Unfortunately, we're at the end of our time today and I know
1:16:12
we've gone on a bit longer, but this is so important.
1:16:14
I think it was, it was good that we had this, this in depth
1:16:18
conversation. Everything that we've referred
1:16:20
to today in this conversation, plus probably some additional
1:16:23
resources will be available in the write up that I will do
1:16:27
following this interview, which you can find on ukcolumn.org.
1:16:30
If you are listening to this on another place such as YouTube or
1:16:34
Spotify or wherever you catch our interviews.
1:16:37
Again, thank you Gloria for your time.
1:16:39
These three parts to this interview series that we've done
1:16:43
with me and you and Ben Rubin have been fantastic.
1:16:46
I want to thank you again for all of your hard research and
1:16:49
your time and your written contributions to UK column as
1:16:52
well. So to the audience, thank you
1:16:55
for your patience and for your time listening to all of us
1:16:58
today. I hope it inspires you to do
1:17:00
something. And I hope everyone has a
1:17:03
wonderful day. And I truly mean that.
1:17:04
And by doing so, you will, you will fight the evil forces that
1:17:08
are coming after us. So thank you again, Gloria.
1:17:12
Thank you.