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Which Teams Will Make The College Football Playoff? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Sunday, August 30th. I'm
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  Speaker 2: So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: College football really happening already. I'm going to welcome in
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  Speaker 1: Tony Gerderman of BuckeyeInsiders.com to talk about, this is a
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  Speaker 1: show that we've done in previous years. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: really kind of a fun exercise to sort of think
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  Speaker 1: through games. this season's college football playoff and who might
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  Speaker 1: make it and who might miss out. This is based
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  Speaker 1: on research from Ralph Russo, the long, long, long time
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  Speaker 1: AP sports writer, who is now with The Athletic. But
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  Speaker 1: before the college football playoff expanded at 12, he had
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  Speaker 1: some really interesting research where he went back through the
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  Speaker 1: previous 10 years and said, okay, based on the AP
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  Speaker 1: preseason poll, how many teams... from different bands of that
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  Speaker 1: preseason poll would have made the playoff on average over
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  Speaker 1: that 10-year span. And it is fewer than you'd think
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  Speaker 1: from kind of towards the top of the poll. Four
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  Speaker 1: of the top five preseason teams in the AP poll
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  Speaker 1: on average make the college football playoff every year. Two
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  Speaker 1: of the teams ranked from 6 to 10 in the
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  Speaker 1: preseason AP poll. Two of the teams ranked from 11
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  Speaker 1: to 20 in the preseason AP poll. One team between
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  Speaker 1: 21 and 25. And three teams not ranked at all
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  Speaker 1: in the preseason AP poll on average make would have
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  Speaker 1: made the playoff on average over the 10 years before
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  Speaker 1: they started. So now we're going to welcome in Tony.
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  Speaker 1: And Tony, I'm going to give you the five top
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  Speaker 1: teams in the preseason top five. And you're going to
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  Speaker 1: tell me which of these five is going to miss
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  Speaker 1: out on the playoff this year. Five teams at the
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  Speaker 1: top five, Ohio State, Georgia, Oregon, Notre Dame, and Texas. Tony,
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  Speaker 1: who gets the whammy?
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to choose the same team that kind of
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  Speaker 2: missed out last year and yet probably was maybe good
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  Speaker 2: enough to win a national championship, and that's Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 2: Because I think of those five, Notre Dame is the
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  Speaker 2: one who can least withstand two losses. And I think
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  Speaker 2: there's going to be an awful lot of teams this
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  Speaker 2: year with two losses. And if that's the case for
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  Speaker 2: each of those five teams, then Notre Dame is the
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  Speaker 2: program that can't afford it because they don't have enough
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  Speaker 2: good games, good opponents to And if one of those
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  Speaker 2: losses comes to a bad opponent, then I don't know
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  Speaker 2: that a good win over a good opponent is enough
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  Speaker 2: to overcome that. So I'm going to say Notre Dame,
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  Speaker 2: which means, of course, that they would only end up
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  Speaker 2: playing 12 games because they, again, will not play a
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  Speaker 2: bowl game if they're not allowed to play in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: Now, give me one example. Can you think of a
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  Speaker 1: single time that Notre Dame has pulled that kind of stunt?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you can, David. So now let's look
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  Speaker 1: at the next group. Oh, I guess I should give
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  Speaker 1: my pick. I should probably get myself on the record here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to do myself a lot of favors with
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  Speaker 1: the lovely folks down in Austin, Texas, who we are
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  Speaker 1: going to be making friends with in just a couple
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  Speaker 1: of weeks. How about the Texas Longhorns missing it? I'm
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  Speaker 1: just going to read through their schedule right now, and
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  Speaker 1: we'll give you the games that are losable. Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: at home. They go to Tennessee, at Tennessee. They play
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma in the Cotton Bowl. They play Florida at home,
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  Speaker 1: Ole Miss at home. They go to Missouri. They go
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  Speaker 1: to LSU. And then they play at Texas A &
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  Speaker 1: M to close the season. You're telling me if they
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  Speaker 1: beat Ohio State, they're probably more or less already in.
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  Speaker 1: But if they lose to Ohio State and then you
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  Speaker 1: lose to, say, Oklahoma– And then you lose to Texas
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  Speaker 1: A & M or whichever other SEC team makes the
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  Speaker 1: playoff this year. And then some of those other teams
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  Speaker 1: aren't quite as good. And then it ends up kind
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  Speaker 1: of being a collection of eight and four. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: are you telling me that a Texas team that's nine
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  Speaker 1: and three and their best win is against number 18
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  Speaker 1: LSU or Missouri or something like that? I don't know
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  Speaker 1: that they're necessarily getting in.
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  Speaker 2: Well, how much is there on the desire to make
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  Speaker 2: up for that mistake last year and reward Texas, but
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  Speaker 2: also not punish Texas for once again scheduling Ohio State?
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  Speaker 2: And this is assuming they lose to Ohio State, which
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  Speaker 2: is not necessarily a safe assumption. But we know you've
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  Speaker 2: said it a bunch of times. If you want to
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  Speaker 2: continue creating these big non-conference games, reward the teams for
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  Speaker 2: playing them. So if they lose to Ohio State– and
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  Speaker 2: they end up with three losses, is that better? Are
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  Speaker 2: those three losses, one being Ohio State, and say none
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  Speaker 2: of them being a bad loss to a Florida team,
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  Speaker 2: say three good losses, is that better than Notre Dame's situation?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's an absolutely fair question. And to your point,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't get left out last year because they lost
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  Speaker 1: to Ohio State. They got left out last year because
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  Speaker 1: they lost to a 4-8 Florida team. So if you
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  Speaker 1: don't have a bad loss this year, And a bad
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  Speaker 1: loss can mean you lost to a 4-8 team or
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  Speaker 1: can mean that you lost by 30 points to someone.
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  Speaker 1: That could be a bad loss, too. So if you
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  Speaker 1: don't have a bad loss, you're probably still getting in.
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  Speaker 1: I don't look at anyone in that field and think, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is a team where I have real, real grave concerns.
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  Speaker 1: But we're picking someone, so I had to pick someone,
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  Speaker 1: so I picked someone.
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  Speaker 2: So, all right.
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  Speaker 1: Next up, AP preseason at number 6 through 10. You
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  Speaker 1: get to pick two of these teams to make the playoff.
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  Speaker 1: the Indiana Hoosiers, the Miami Hurricanes, Texas A & M Aggies,
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  Speaker 1: Ole Miss Rebels, and Oklahoma Sooners.
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  Speaker 2: Who you got? Does this one seem pretty simple? I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to go with Indiana and Miami, who are two
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  Speaker 2: of the three best teams in the nation last year,
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  Speaker 2: both because the schedules are easier, fairly decent. I am
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  Speaker 2: wondering if too many people are jumping on the Indiana
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  Speaker 2: bandwagon right now, just assuming they're going to be great.
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  Speaker 2: Their schedule, having Ohio State at home, going to Michigan
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  Speaker 2: back-to-back weeks. They've got USC at home. I wonder that
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  Speaker 2: the second to last week at Washington, what kind of
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  Speaker 2: game that will be. But they're going to be favored.
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  Speaker 2: They may be favored in every game or at least
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  Speaker 2: 11 of their 12. So yeah, I would go with them.
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  Speaker 2: And then Miami and the ACC, it seems like until somebody...
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  Speaker 2: Until they start losing multiple three games a year in
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  Speaker 2: the ACC, you should just pencil them in, I think,
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  Speaker 2: at this point.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm going to go Miami, yes, for all the
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  Speaker 1: reasons you said. I'm going to go with Texas A
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  Speaker 1: & M. And this is a little bit of a,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sort of parlaying a couple things where if Texas
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  Speaker 1: loses and doesn't make it, then that's probably because Texas
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  Speaker 1: A & M has a good win against them right
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the season. I just think between
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  Speaker 1: Texas A & M, Ole Miss, and Oklahoma, someone's making it.
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  Speaker 1: One of those three teams is going to make it.
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  Speaker 1: because the SEC is going to get four teams in
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  Speaker 1: the playoff this year. Sorry, we'll get to someone from
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  Speaker 1: this conference about the SEC a little later on here
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  Speaker 1: as well, but it just feels like someone from the SEC,
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  Speaker 1: from that group, is going to make it. I would
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  Speaker 1: probably say Indiana more likely than not to make it
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  Speaker 1: this year, but they're replacing some folks. They've got some
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  Speaker 1: challenging games on the schedule, and I think it could
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  Speaker 1: be a real down year for the Indiana Hoosiers where
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  Speaker 1: they go nine and three. That's a possibility, which two
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  Speaker 1: years ago at this exact moment, if you told an
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  Speaker 1: Indiana fan they were going to win nine games, they
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  Speaker 1: would have done cartwheels. And now it's like, boy, that
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  Speaker 1: would be a real step back for this program. But
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  Speaker 1: I think it's possible that you see a step back.
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  Speaker 1: They're replacing a lot off of last year's team. Again,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's more likely than not they make it,
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  Speaker 1: but I have them out right now. AP preseason numbers
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  Speaker 1: 11 through 20. Again, we get to pick two of these. LSU,
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  Speaker 1: Texas Tech, Alabama, BYU, USC, Michigan, Washington, Penn State, SMU,
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  Speaker 1: and Tennessee. I feel like one of these is probably
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  Speaker 1: almost a given. And then the others, I kind of
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  Speaker 1: look and I go, well, it could be almost any
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  Speaker 1: of these.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to, I guess I'll have to take
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  Speaker 2: my Give me one of those Big 12 teams. Boy,
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking immediately, Texas Tech is the one to
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  Speaker 2: go with, but I'll go ahead and go BYU. And
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  Speaker 2: we'll see what they do against Notre Dame. If they
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  Speaker 2: beat Notre Dame, there may be two Big 12 teams
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  Speaker 2: in this. But I don't want to get over my skis.
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  Speaker 2: Because I also want to pick Alabama. I think quarterback
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  Speaker 2: Keelan Russell is going to start some things there. They've
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  Speaker 2: got Georgia at home. They've got, I think, at Tennessee.
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  Speaker 2: It's the SEC, so there is no real easy route.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm going to go ahead and get on the
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  Speaker 2: Alabama bandwagon now, and I'm going to say Alabama and BYU.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going with Texas Tech here, and I was looking
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  Speaker 1: to see, well, where does Texas Tech play BYU this year?
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  Speaker 1: Is it in Provo? Is it in Lubbock? It is nowhere.
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  Speaker 1: Those two teams do not play each other, and Texas
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  Speaker 1: Tech's non-conference schedule is You know, representative of a typical
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  Speaker 1: Texas Tech non-conference schedule, Abilene Christian at Oregon State. and
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  Speaker 1: Sam Houston. So lots of real playoff contenders there. It
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  Speaker 1: just feels like the walk me through a scenario where
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  Speaker 1: Texas Tech isn't 11-1. I just don't see it. And
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  Speaker 1: maybe 12-0 going into the Big 12 championship game. And
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  Speaker 1: then whoever wins that is probably your playoff representative. So
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  Speaker 1: And probably they don't get two teams in because if
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  Speaker 1: BYU loses to Notre Dame and then they lose to
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  Speaker 1: Texas Tech, then it's kind of, well, who have you beaten?
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  Speaker 1: You've lost to both of your good teams. And if
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  Speaker 1: Texas Tech loses in the conference championship game, even at 12-1,
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  Speaker 1: I think you might have an argument for like, who'd
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  Speaker 1: you beat exactly? Because there's not a lot of there
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  Speaker 1: there on this schedule. So I'm going to go with
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  Speaker 1: Texas Tech. Boy, this is one where the other one,
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  Speaker 1: I thought about Alabama. I thought about BYU. I thought
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  Speaker 1: about USC. Tony, this is a 100% schedule pick. 100% schedule. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I know what.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to say. I was going to predict what
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  Speaker 2: you're going to predict, but I know what you're going
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  Speaker 2: to say. So go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Tony, how about the Penn State Nittany Lions? How about them?
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  Speaker 1: I don't love it. I'm going to let you know
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  Speaker 1: right now. I don't love it. But here's their schedule.
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  Speaker 1: Marshall at Temple Buffalo. Wisconsin at home, at Northwestern, USC
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  Speaker 1: at home, that's October 10th, at Michigan, Purdue at home,
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  Speaker 1: at Washington, Minnesota Rutgers at Maryland. I look at that
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  Speaker 1: and I think there are three even plausibly losable games
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  Speaker 1: on here. At Michigan, at Washington, home for USC. I
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  Speaker 1: am not buying the Michigan Wolverines right now. I just
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  Speaker 1: think they're going to be not quite as good I
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  Speaker 1: think Washington could be a good team. And Washington is
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  Speaker 1: a team that I seriously considered putting in here. USC,
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  Speaker 1: that's the whiteout game. That is a tough place for
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  Speaker 1: visiting teams to come in and win. If they go
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  Speaker 1: two and one in those three losable games, and I
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  Speaker 1: think that's very possible, they're absolutely in. If they go
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  Speaker 1: one and two, they might still be in if the
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  Speaker 1: two losses are close and you get a good win
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  Speaker 1: in that third one. I think they're a team that
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  Speaker 1: if they're 10 and two, they're probably getting in. If
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  Speaker 1: they get in, they're like the 10 seed, the 11 seed,
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  Speaker 1: something like that. I think there's very little chance that
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  Speaker 1: they actually win a game in the playoff. But if
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  Speaker 1: you get in, that's probably a good season for Matt
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  Speaker 1: Campbell in year one.
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  Speaker 2: Well, get in and then immediately do nothing in the
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  Speaker 2: playoffs like James Franklin, who actually won a game or two,
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  Speaker 2: but really didn't get the credit for it, nor should he.
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  Speaker 2: But you like you've made the playoffs and you're still
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  Speaker 2: back to square one. I do think it would be
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  Speaker 2: interesting to see a 10 and two Penn state compared
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  Speaker 2: to a 12 and one Texas tech when Penn state
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  Speaker 2: has like, well, they've got one more ranked win than
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  Speaker 2: Texas tech does. So good job on your scheduling and
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  Speaker 2: Penn state's non-conference schedule. There's nothing to be rewarded for
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  Speaker 2: there with Marshall temple and Buffalo. So it's just like,
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  Speaker 2: can't there be somebody else? And then they'll go and
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  Speaker 2: look at, you know, they haven't, that's where Alabama gets
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  Speaker 2: in or Tennessee with their free losses or something like that,
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  Speaker 2: because those non-conference schedules are just bad. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It just feels to me like it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: Texas tech and probably one of the big 10 teams there.
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  Speaker 1: I'm absolutely not buying Tennessee this year. That just, that,
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  Speaker 1: that feels like an easy no to me. SMU maybe,
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  Speaker 1: but I think I doubt the ACC gets two teams.
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  Speaker 1: So it just feels like it's probably one.
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  Speaker 2: Of the big 10 teams in that group. So.
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  Speaker 1: We'll go with Penn State because sure, why not? AP
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  Speaker 1: preseason 21 through 25, and this is one that I
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  Speaker 1: looked at and went, do I have to? Are you
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  Speaker 1: sure I have to? Utah, Iowa, Houston, Louisville, and Missouri. Tony,
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  Speaker 1: pick one. I don't want to.
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  Speaker 2: You know, maybe the Big 12 will get three teams in, Tom. No,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to just go be on the Louisville bandwagon.
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  Speaker 2: I'll really be on it if they beat Ole Miss
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  Speaker 2: in the season opener, but they've got no other ranked
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  Speaker 2: opponents at this point. Maybe somebody will jump up there,
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  Speaker 2: but they do have SMU. First game is Ole Miss,
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  Speaker 2: then Villanova, then SMU, and then the rest is just
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  Speaker 2: ACC slop, and they could very well make the ACC
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  Speaker 2: championship game with that one loss to SMU, assuming there is.
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  Speaker 2: And if they have that, we've seen crazy things happen
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  Speaker 2: on ACC championship game. We've seen good teams not make it.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm going to go with Louisville there on the
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  Speaker 2: Lincoln-Keenholds train.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I had picked Missouri initially, and then I just
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  Speaker 1: pulled up Missouri's schedule. And I went, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: it's not Missouri. They have, Texas A & M at home.
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  Speaker 1: Then the following week, they go to Ole Miss. In November,
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  Speaker 1: they have Texas at home, then Georgia the following week,
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  Speaker 1: then a surprisingly sneaky Kentucky team, then Oklahoma to wrap
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  Speaker 1: up the season.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: Man, I don't love any of this. Can I change
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  Speaker 1: my answer? Can I pick Alabama in the previous group
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  Speaker 1: and then take Iowa here maybe? I just... I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to overload with one conference or another. It just
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  Speaker 1: feels like you're going to get four Big Ten teams,
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  Speaker 1: four SEC teams. So maybe I'll go back and give
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  Speaker 1: Alabama a spot in the field and then take Iowa here,
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  Speaker 1: although I don't really love Iowa either. I don't love
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  Speaker 1: Louisville either, and I'm not sure the ACC is getting
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  Speaker 1: two teams, but it's like, man, I don't love any
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  Speaker 1: of my choices here.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Tom, if you don't love them, picking from 21
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  Speaker 2: to 25, you're really going to love this next step. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the next step is three teams that are unranked
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  Speaker 1: in the preseason AP poll, three teams. Now, one of them,
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  Speaker 1: good news, no non-power team is ranked. So, you know,
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  Speaker 1: pick your, take your choice of non-power team. That's going
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  Speaker 1: to be one of them. I'm going to read through
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  Speaker 1: the others receiving votes because these are the teams that are,
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  Speaker 1: you know, sort of Presumably the closest to being a
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  Speaker 1: ranked team and presumably the strongest candidates. Boy, if you
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  Speaker 1: have a drink of liquid in your mouth, I would
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  Speaker 1: suggest you swallow it real quickly before I start reading
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  Speaker 1: this list.
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  Speaker 2: Ready?
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  Speaker 1: Here we go. How about the Clemson Tigers, Tony? Florida,
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  Speaker 1: Boise State, Arizona, TCU, who we now know has lost
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  Speaker 1: to North Carolina, so they're probably out. Navy, South Carolina, Illinois,
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, Vanderbilt, Pitt, Virginia Tech, Minnesota, UNLV, New Mexico,
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  Speaker 1: Georgia Tech, James Madison, Auburn, Memphis, Cal, Liberty, Western Michigan, Tulane,
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  Speaker 1: and Virginia. Tony, of all of those extremely attractive options,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like Boise State's kind of the free space
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  Speaker 1: on the bingo card here. But then the other two,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you, what I wrote down was,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know someone from the SEC and someone from
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  Speaker 1: the Big Ten. But beyond that, I just, I don't
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  Speaker 1: like any of my choices here either.
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  Speaker 2: Right, because I'm looking at them like, wait, Virginia Tech
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  Speaker 2: or Virginia or Cal, it's like, well, how many teams
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  Speaker 2: do you think the ACC is actually going to get?
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  Speaker 2: Why don't you just stay here in reality? But you
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  Speaker 2: go look at Minnesota scheduling, it's like, that's not going
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  Speaker 2: to happen. Illinois, I mean, they were thought to be
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  Speaker 2: the team last year that might sneak in there. So
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say Boise State three times. So.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go with a little bit of a
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: theme here. And that theme is blue and orange teams.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to take Boise state and I'm going
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: to take Florida and I'm going to take Illinois. And
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: I got to tell you, I don't, I don't really like,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I think that the Florida thing is going to work out.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: I think they're going to be okay. John Summerall is
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: going to work out there. I don't think it's going
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: to work out this year. I think that's a 20,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: you know, see me again in 2027 kind of thing,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: but I'm going to take them. Cause I at least
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: kind of like the general idea there. Here's the Illinois
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: schedule at Ohio State. The good news is if you
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: win that one, you're probably mostly in at that point.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: They get Oregon at home on October 24th, and then
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: they get Iowa at home on November 21st. So maybe
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: you steal one from... Maybe you steal one from.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Uh, Oregon, maybe I just, I don't really love it.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: And they just, you know, they, I'm just pulled up
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Oregon schedule. That's, you know, coming off of a game
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: against Nebraska and Northwestern's on deck. So you don't have
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: a real look ahead or a hangover there for Oregon.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Maybe Brett Bielema can get them in this year as
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: the 11th seed. I just, I don't know, Tony, I
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: don't know why I suggested doing this show. I hate
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: doing this every year.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Well, let me just– I will go ahead and give
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: you my answers. Boise State, even though I really want
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: to go with UNLV instead. So I'm going to go UNLV,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: and this has been being recorded before they go ahead
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: and lose to Memphis, which thanks, Tom. UNLV, and how
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: about this? Out of the blue, somebody from the Big 12,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: we've already mentioned– we each already have mentioned somebody. Oklahoma
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: State there. After being really bad last year, bringing in
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: all of the North Texas people, coaches, players, I'm going
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: to say Oklahoma State somehow is going to be a
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: representative because of their one or two losses and the
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: SEC having so many three-loss teams. And I like the
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Illinois thing. So let's go Boise State, Illinois, and Oklahoma State.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of orange there. And Oklahoma State
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: has Oregon Week 2. They get them at home. They
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: get them in Stillwater. And then you go through the
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: rest of the schedule, they get Texas Tech at home.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: They go to Houston. Those are the only three ranked
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: teams that they play this year. So If they can
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: somehow go 11-1 there, maybe you lose to Oregon, but
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: you sneak one out against Texas Tech or vice versa.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: If they're 11-1, they're in with that schedule because then
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: you have a little bit of a signature win, assuming
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: these teams end up where we're projected to.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Boise State got into the playoffs on the back of
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: a close loss to Oregon a couple of years ago,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: so we'll see. And Oklahoma State is half the team
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: of Boise State.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's your quick run through the deeply unpleasant
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: exercise of using the preseason AP top 25 to figure
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: out who's going to get in, who's going to get out.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: If I went back and picked this all over, I
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: feel like I would pick about six of the 12
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: teams that I picked over in going through this time.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I hate it all. That's okay. The good news is
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: we're done. The better news is you want to talk
• 20:59
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• 21:02
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• 21:05
  Speaker 1: There were a couple of people who had their picks
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: in that I thought, wow, that is really, really bold.
• 21:11
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• 21:15
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• 21:18
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