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06/15/2023 580 Live with Dave Allen - Dave Pope, Chris Withrow, Jeff Jenkins · The Dave Allen Show

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the Shrine. Temple on Coyer Street in Charleston. So lots to get to,
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but I'm gonna start off with talking a little golf this morning. As
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in the short course at Coonskin. Dave Pope is with us, the golf
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chairman for the Kanaan County Parks Commission, Championship chairman for the Western Inia Golf
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Association for twenty five years. He joins us now in the Parmar Store studio.
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Dave from one day to another. Good morning, good mording, Dave,
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and thanks for having me, appreciate thank you for being here. Greg
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Carey has an end up story posted at WV Metro News dot com about this
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course that is all the rage among golfers in Kanaan County right now. So
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I'll give a little background here. If I have anything in correct, Dave,
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you can feel free to jump in. The Kanaan County Commission pledged more
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than one point two million in funding from the American Rescue Plan for this nine
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hole par three at Coonskin Park. Of course, the back nine and the
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course we're destroyed by flooding. Fast forward to today it's open and Dave,
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people seem to love it. Did you have the story right, so far,
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so good, and what has the reaction been to the course so far?
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West and great? Today we opened three weeks ago tomorrow, Friday before
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Labor Day, and we're averaging seventy five people sounds today and which is pretty
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good because the word is not really out yet. Um I was at a
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screen bar for the amateur ran into a lot of Charleston people passing out scorecards,
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talking the course of and a lot of them didn't know about it yet.
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So as they're catching on, they're they're they're coming out and most folks
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will come out and play nine holes and then go do a redo. So
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we're getting a lot of play for them for being open three weeks and the
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words not really well, that's why you're here today. We're gonna get that
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word out. And there was again there's a dead dead story on the website
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wv metro News dot com about it. Dave, what is the draw for
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the golfers here for this particular course, Well, we had this part three
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after and as you stated, we lost the back nine and we lost the
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old golf course. They're irrigation. We had a front nine, pancake flat
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greens. It wasn't really challenge. Great place to start out playing golf your
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wife or kids, but any accomplished golfer just wasn't wasn't. But boy wasn't
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a challenge boy. And so we came up with the idea, you get
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a hold Shoemate, who's the auganimist at Greenbor and he built the Ashford,
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which is a nine old course at the Sporting Club, and so I knew
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he could could know what he's doing. So went to him through actually three
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years ago and told him the idea of what we wanted to do was to
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read you the golf course, but make it different, make it with some
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iconic greens. So each hole has a story and concept behind it, and
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we go back to the golden era of golf, which was basically eighteen nineteen
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twenty when so many golf courses were built by so many great architects, and
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so we kind of used some concepts of each one. We didn't do a
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replica course. I've seen those in Houston and Florida where each holes like a
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replica of Amon Corner or whatever. We only did two like that. There
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was a punch bowl number nine and three dan number seven, and the other
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holes are just overviews of different architects of the of the era of early nineteen
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hundreds, and the scorecard has a listing of each hole and where we uh,
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where we got the idea, who we were using Kelly went above and
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beyond got we We saw to the greens and saw to the surrounds, and
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the greens were perfect. There's no poem and there's no bermuda. It's just
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brand new and the surrounds are us pretty thick, and so it makes for
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interesting It's only about one hundred yards long. Each hole has a run up
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or even as a child can running up and getting on the green, and
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your better golfer is going to hit the green. But that's where the challenge
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begins because the greens have a lot of movement, a lot of role,
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a lot of whole placements. So if you've hundred yards in end is the
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majority of everyone's score, probably eighty percent of scores from one hundred yards in
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and from there that you can really practice your game here and and get get
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better, get better. And if you go over to my Facebook page,
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day on the radio, what he he's referring to in these different holes.
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I actually posted it on Facebook in the description, the kind of little preview
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I do for the show on the nine of course layout from the whole number
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one of the park, the two, the turtle, the duel, the
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bell, the duel catchers met as you and you mentioned all those before.
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Interesting interesting names for some of those, Dave right and the like. I
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said, these are concepts from way back, whinn and there was no the
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Verdan and the punch bowl for example, you'll see it on number eight and
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number nine at O White and that was done by H. C. Donald
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Steth Rayner I think nineteen fourteen. It's still those two concepts are still used
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today. Architects are using us as they're using the others. So we just
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kind of took a overview all these different architects and what they what they were
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famous for, like the turtle, the turtles, like the turtle and and
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and that was used extensively by Donald Rosson at number two Pinehurst. If you've
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ever played there and watched the open there um all the greens kind of hunting
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bike. So there's smart and they look if you get off center, they'll
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world right off the brain. That's the concept, that's the turtle, but
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but it's it's it's worked out well. It's really as Kelly went above and
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beyond, uh way this works, Dave. You come in. We had
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a completely clean palette. All rocks, trees, everything are removed in the
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front nine. And then you come in and the shaper comes in and with
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Kelly the architect, and starts shaping the greens the way he wants them.
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He was coming down three and four days a week from from Oklahoma's County,
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and the shaper he'd come back and he would be exactly pretty much exactly like
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he liked it. So the shapers one of the best round and then the
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irrigation guy comes in. We irrigated it, of course, and the irrigation
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system basically state of the art. The superintendent can be at home on he's
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sloane and start the irrigation work. Say he wants to put fifteen minutes of
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rain. Couldn't do that back in nineteen fourteen, No, you couldn't.
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You have to rely on on the lord's rain. But you could. You
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could say that thing. It's save three am. You want to put fifteen
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minutes of rain or water on it. And we have an unknown pop up
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thunderstorm and saturates of course. Well, irrigation as systems built, the words
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will shut itself off, right, so we don't flodge the golf course.
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Amazing technology. Again, we're talking with Dave Pope, who was the golf
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chairman for the canal A County Parks Commission about this um of the short course
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that coons can have a question for you, David. Somebody texted in what
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is the cost for nine holes? Okay, nine holes is twenty dollars and
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it may seem will high, but we do have a million two dollars a
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million and me and two and golf course built. We need to maintain it
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and then redos or ten dollars fifteen and blow is a ten dollar initial fee
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and five dollars redo. And what a lot of people are doing coming in
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playing eighteen holes? You can play all day at ten dollars on the redo,
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So damn it at that point. But um, it's worthy, it
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really is. I mean we're getting seventy five golfers a day on average,
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which is not bad with three weeks in and no, I mean seventy five
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a day's pretty good. Talk about um. You know, you mentioned that
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it's a great place for those who maybe don't play regularly, or maybe just
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those just want to have a little fun or whatever. How are we looking
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as far as getting younger people involved in golf, because I know that I
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know that that that the PGA and other organizations have really had an effort to
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try to get different people to playing golf and trying to get out of the
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image it's you know, it's the old it's it's the old guy, old
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rich guy's game or whatever. They they've gotten done a lot with like inner
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cities, and they've done a lot with youth trying to get youth involved.
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This would be I would think a good course for for that sort of thing,
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for maybe a beginner to come out somebody just wants to have fun or
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young people. As you said exactly, Well, we can think Tiger was
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the surgeon general golf. He's uh, he's been a catalyst for golf for
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the last thirty years. Now we have a h at Coonskin. We have
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Weston Golf Association as golf house by the driving range. We have a driving
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range which is really nice. And then we got this golf course now,
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uh, First Tea of West Virginia is centrally located at golf house. And
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that is really the way for youngsters to get involved in some organization type of
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thing. And you can call the golf house called WGA. At golf House,
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get old Jeff Priest and he's a coordinator for First Tea And we've got
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Kyla Way Junior Tour. We've got a lot of junior golf going on in
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the state right now. First Team we're in thirty three counties. The first
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team were the phizzed. Part of it now involves golf. It's get some
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exposed to it at grade school level. Um, trying to get him early
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before they get into soccer. Soccer is your competition. But good I played
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baseball and played We could do more than one thing. But um, it's
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all right here in Charleston. And this is where you want to start with
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the kids. And like I said, the holes looking tim today, there's
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a lot of rough around them. They're real big or five thousand square feet
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each and but there's a run up where if you can't get it are born.
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But you can still run it up on the green. And all the
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holes six or nine or one hundred yards or less. It's not long.
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But the challenges once you get on the green how to text here it said
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driving carts are only walking. No, it's just walking. There's no room
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for cars. We're on film acres, and and plus we've got to protect
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the turf. At this point, we're not we're not even doing full carts
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because really, you go to play, you surely need five club stops,
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a couple of wedges, maybe a nine iron, and a butter turning in
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your hand. So we really don't want to get the horse to one.
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I know with pull carts out there, at some point there will be dragging
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across the green or across the tea and then we're we're gonna have a niche,
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Okay, all right, So that answers that if people want more information
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about this, you got a website to get a phone number they could call.
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You got Facebook working in and learn more about them, well, or
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just come out, just come out, just go. I'm a ludight,
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I don't do a lot of the Facebook, okay, all right, rry,
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I didn't know three and just come out with the new bridge was built
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four or five years ago. You could get from here to coon Skin and
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we're downtown in less than fifteen minutes. You can't beat that and like I
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say, it only takes an Iron fifteen to play has a situation last weekend
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looked like rain. Talked to my sister they were going to go play like
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one o'clock supposed to rain at three. Helly had no problem going out and
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playing eighteen holes and beat the weather. So that's another draw for it,
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is you go play eighteen holes of golf with your buddies you're looking at five
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hours was yeah, getting there, playing, finishing and getting them. This
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is something you play in Iron fifteen. Well, and again we've spent a
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lot of time on this show, Dave talking about sports travel and these travel
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teams that come in for these tournaments in this proposed sports complex, it's gonna
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happen to Charles. We've already seen what's going on in Shawnee. Where I
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could see this being a big tourism thing for people is when they come because,
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as I've said on the show before, if they have a soccer match
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at eleven, they may not play again till four o'clock the next day.
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Well, they're not gonna sit there and one soccer all day. I mean,
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they're gonna maybe scout the other team, but they're gonna go to the
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movies, they're gonna do whatever. This would be a great thing for them
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to go do something fun. Perfect And like I said, we got rental
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clubs. They don't have to bring it down clubs, and um, it's
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it's just a short time frame to play. And that's a secret. That's
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the beauty of it. See, you want to spend all day playing golf,
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you can get out there in the evening, out during the morning,
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whatever, and get in around of golf really challenging. Of course, all
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those short I said, fun begins once you green it. Let me ask
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you this about and then we got to let you go to move on.
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But someone texting and said, how long until golf courses get turf? In
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your opinion, like over it like we have over a gold Mark ball park.
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See that happening. I mean just turf, I guess. So it's
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some kind of synthetic us some kind of synthetic Oh okay, well, after
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we're hitting off mat a mat right now, state of the art match.
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Everybody's bragging about the mats will actually take a tea. Reason being we saw
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the greens in us around but the teas were were sprayed. It's a seasoned
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and uh the root prudencies and it's probably not even in stick. You take
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a divot out of those teas now there's nothing to put back. It's all
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sand. So we got to let that tea mature, all of them before
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we uh start hitting off grass. But but the match have worked well.
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We moved around every day and so forth. And also to finish up,
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there was we have a six thousand square foot pudding green and it was sat
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and it's just like the greens on the golf course. So the best way
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I would do is come out and maybe a half hour earlier. Yeah,
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sign up and spend time pudding because pubic golfers don't have any place to practice
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pudding. Yeah, and maybe you're playing game. It sounds like you got
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some good things going on at your day, all Dave Pope, I appreciate
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you. Signed by the studio. We'll talk again soon. Good luck with
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five zero zero Wait, Texas, if you have to carry your clubs,
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that's why the numbers are down. Well, the numbers really haven't had a
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chance to go down yet because the place has only been open for three weeks.
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So they're doing pretty well. They're doing about seventy five a day out
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there, from what Dave Pope tells me. So that's that's not bad Texas.
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Dave. On a regular golf course, I shoot in the seventies.
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If it gets any hotter than that, I stay home. According to a
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text Chris Wthrow from the Benny Keatam Shrine is here. How are you?
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Ma'm great? Dave? How you doing list? I'm doing fine. Have
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you been out the coon skim? Are you a golfer? Not much of
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a golfer, But I'll tell you what. The people that I know that
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play golf aren't much of golfer. Yeah. I got really frustrated with it
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early, so I give it up. But yes, I mean Coonskin,
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They've got a lot of good things going on out there. Yeah, a
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lot of good things and something I'm mentioned here. We're having an event that's
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going to end up there as well here in July. So i'll tell you
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about that in a little bit. But well, first I want to talk
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about some food. I want to talk about fish. You got your Fish
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Fry, their annual event going on tomorrow, correct at at at the Shrine
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building there on Courrier. Man, I was you and I were talking the
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other day and I actually put together a little commercial for you that I think
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they're airing on one of the other stations, and I was writing that up,
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you know, the fish, the hush puppies, the whole deal,
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and I was like, man, I'm getting hungry righting this. Chris.
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Absolutely. So tomorrow we're going to start at four o'clock serving food, and
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that's at one hundred Corrier Street, which is the Benny Keatam Shrine Center,
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right beside the Civic Center in case anybody needs a landmark to find it.
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But we're having fried Alaska, a pollock, um, French frost, cole
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slaw, corn on the cob, hush puppies. We're gonna have a cash
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bar as well, um, and some dessert you're gonna you could come in
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and eat and and join the festivities and fellowship with everyone, or you can
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take it to go. Either way we're happy to do. So this is
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open to everybody. Everybody, you know, stop by. If you gotta
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go home and you got to feed your family, stop by and pick up
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a clamshell with all the food in there and taking home to your family so
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you don't have to cook, or stop in and say hi, and come
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in and look at our beautiful building and meet some of the folks there.
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It's gonna be a great time, and all of them. It's fifteen dollars
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a plate and all of the proceeds go to the bunny Keatam clowns. So
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they do a lot of work with the kids, not only through the hospitals
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but here locally and putting smile on kids faces, paint and painting faces and
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parading and doing all those things that they do. This is like, really
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the clown's busy time. It is because you know, you're in all the
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different parades and summer festivals and things that ain't the entire shrine is busy.
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I mean we're I mean the Oriental band, the Highlanders, the clowns.
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They're out parading. It seems like every weekend we're at a parade or a
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festival or something going on, which is kind of awesome. But this is
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a really good fundraiser that it's always a fun time. A lot of people
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come and you'll you'll probably see more people there that you know that you don't
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being in this small town of Charleston. So it's a really great opportunity to
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help support the shrine the clowns, and also to come in and see our
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facility which we ran out to the public, which is an awesome thing,
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and come in and take a look and see what we're doing in there,
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and you know, grab a shriner or grab a clown, ask questions.
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It's a it's a good time, it really is. So again, that's
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tomorrow, four o'clock, one hundred Quarrier Street, fifteen dollars to play.
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All the proceeds are going to the Clowns and we'd love to see as many
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people come in as we possibly can. And here's something I want to bring
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up to you know, Friday and Charleston. It's kind of rocking anyway because
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you got live on the levee yes, you got festival going on, You've
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got to all these things going on. So here's the thing if you wanted
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to I'm just gonna kind of throw this idea. If you're somebody that works
23:11
like in the downtown area or in the vicinity, and you wanted to go
23:15
there and grab some some some dinner, you can you can actually eat there
23:18
too, right, absolutely, So you could actually get your fish dinner and
23:22
eat there and then go enjoy Live on the Levee or festival or all these
23:26
other thing. You're already parked and the best parking lot in Charleston, so
23:30
why not why not just kind of walk your way up to the boulevard.
23:33
It's only a couple of blocks up and a couple of blocks down. Why
23:36
not. Yeah, you know, it's a great opportunity. And and Fridays
23:40
in Charleston, as I said in tomorrow, Chris Jim Starn will be on
23:41
the show to talk about Live on the Levees he does every Friday during the
23:45
summer season. This would be again a great thing to do while you're taking
23:49
on all the other activities in Charleston, right, And plus it's for such
23:52
a great cause. And if you've not seen this shrine. I'll talk about
23:56
this every time I have Chris on the show. The Shrine Club building there
23:59
on Coreyer Streets absolutely a beautiful facility. If you've got a party going on,
24:03
you got a you know, a wedding, bridle, shower, shower.
24:07
I know you just hosted some graduation parties probably there. Um I just
24:11
mentioned that. Last a couple of weeks ago. I had my class reunion
24:17
and it wasn't at that Shrine Club, but I had it at the one
24:19
down in Logan and we just utilized the Shrine Club down there. And this
24:25
building that you have here is absolutely fantastic. Plus you got the best,
24:29
as you said, Chris, the best parking lot in Charleston. We do
24:32
absolutely, and you know you can come in to use our parking lot for
24:36
events, but we can we can accommodate any type of meeting, like you
24:41
said, memorial services, reunions, weddings. We're having a wedding as a
24:48
matter of fact, this coming month. At the end of the month,
24:51
we have a wedding of three hundred and eighty five people, so we can
24:56
do twenty people or people getting married that are going to attend this wedding.
25:02
So it's a it's a big thing and uh so we're really excited about it.
25:06
We do a lot of weddings and a lot of reunions, class reunions
25:10
and family resions, you know, and our our cost is very competitive through
25:15
out Charleston. So we do have a really great facility there. But there's
25:19
one other thing that's coming up to it's really exciting that we're doing. Um
25:23
it's in July. It's coming up July eighth, and it is going to
25:27
be our first, hopefully annual Elk River paddle fests. So we're going to
25:33
do a float down the Elk River and it starts at nine am on July
25:40
eighth. We're going to start at the Blue Creek Boat Ramp, the new
25:45
boat ramp, the D and R just put in, and we're gonna be
25:47
floating down the river and we're gonna end at Coonskin Park. And that's what
25:51
we were talking about us a second ago when we first come on the air.
25:56
We're gonna have like a Shriner's village there. We're gonna have food venders
26:00
set up where you can purchase some food at a very reasonable cost. And
26:03
then we have a band called the Weekend Warriors. They're going to be playing
26:07
at the Amphitheater afterwards, so we're gonna have like a little Shriner's after party
26:15
type situation. It's a thirty five dollars per person registration fee, which you
26:19
can register online at Bennie keat MWV dot us or on our Benny Keaton Facebook
26:29
page and you could preregister. You get a shirt, a sticker with our
26:33
logo on it. And also we're giving away whistles because a couple of years
26:37
ago you have to have a whistle on every type of vessel on the water,
26:41
whether it be motorized or not. So we thought a lot of people
26:45
may not have those, so we got those printed out. Yeah, so
26:48
it's going to be a really fun time. On the seventh of July,
26:52
which the day before K and M construction, which is located right there just
26:57
before Blue Creek, has a fenced in area and he has donated his lot
27:03
so that you can drop off your boats the night before so you don't have
27:04
to deal with it. We're gonna have transportation from Coonskin back up to Blue
27:10
Creek, so if you if you bring your kayaks into the night before or
27:15
that day, you come up, you get your kayaks up there, you
27:17
go down and park at Coonskin. There's gonna be buses that will shovel you
27:22
back up to the starting point. We'll get you launched, and it's gonna
27:25
be a fun day. It's gonna be a great trip and we're really looking
27:27
forward to it. And as we move through the years, we hope to
27:32
add a watershed clean up program with it to help the people up there and
27:37
help you in Glendon and and the river everybody that uses the river. So
27:41
we're really excited about all that. But tomorrow, big day, Big Day.
27:47
It always amazes me because I usually have you on about once a month.
27:48
You need to come in to talk about the things going on, to
27:51
try because it's an organization that I truly believe in. I've seen the work
27:53
that you do, and I got a lot of good friends that are in
27:56
the organization. But when I see it always amazes me when you come in
27:59
and you like a laundry, Let's like you've got you know, a big
28:02
long poster paper size, so that we get this going on. We got
28:04
that going on, We get this going on. So if you need any
28:07
more information about any of these things, because I know Chris those out a
28:10
lot of information. You got to Facebook page Benny keatam on Facebook, and
28:14
that you can also call or just stop by the office down there or the
28:18
temple as it were on on Coreya Strae. All right, let's get back
28:21
to the fish tomorrow. You're gonna start again at four four o'clock, four
28:26
o'clock, and you'll go to how late till the fish runs out, Till
28:30
the fish runs out? Yeah? Absolutely, I mean, what kind of
28:33
fish were we talking about? Alaska pollo, Alaskan pollock? Really good fish.
28:36
Did you catch us yourself in Alaska? I wish I had. I
28:38
mean, honestly, I'd love to go to Alaska. Did you catch the
28:41
hush puppies yourself? We caught them. They didn't move very fast, but
28:45
we caught it. They they tend to congregate there around the amos plant.
28:48
I think they do. You know. So basically you're gonna get You're gonna
28:52
get, uh, you know, some fish. You're gonna of course,
28:55
French fries, you know, the normal sides, fixines, coleslaw, corn
29:00
on the cob, hush puppies. We're gonna have a cash bar. We'll
29:03
have a lemonade and tea and water. But we'll also have a cash bar
29:07
that you can take advantage of and that's that's to go, or you can
29:08
eat in there with us, which you know, Hey, if you've got
29:11
some extra time, come in and meet meet the Shriners, meet the clowns,
29:15
and look at our beautiful facility. It's gonna be a lot of fun.
29:18
It's absolutely an open house and we stick around for Live on the levee
29:22
afterwards if you want absolutely that. I'm looking forward to it. I think
29:26
it's gonna be a great time tomorrow. And again it starts at four o'clock.
29:30
You have the full fish full fish fry thing going on there. And
29:33
again if you do have to go home, because we know people work hard
29:36
during the week, get you six or eight orders to go? Can they
29:40
call in an order or do they just need to show up? If they
29:41
want orders, they can just absolutely just pull in the parking lot, run
29:45
upstairs. We'll put them in a clamshell for them and send them out.
29:49
Not a pro. Go get you six or eight dinners. Absolutely, and
29:52
all you folks that are gonna here's an idea too, because I'm gonna try
29:56
to make you guys work as hard as possible. Here's an idea too for
30:00
people that might be working second shift over one of the hospitals or something like
30:03
that. You know, be a great thing for you to do. It's
30:06
to get eight or ten dinners and take them to work. Take them to
30:08
work absolutely, you know, and again we're going to be eight thinking that's
30:12
your genius spell with a J. Yeah, right, that's right. So
30:15
but no, seriously, if you do work second shift, absolutely let us
30:18
know how many you need. We'll put them together and get them boxed up
30:22
for you and take them to work. You know, there's folks that work
30:25
at the hospitals or wherever it is. We'd love to to, you know,
30:29
provide them with any kind of meals that they need. And again,
30:32
all of the proceeds are going to a great cause. I mean, the
30:33
clowns do so much down there at the temple and they're very active in everything
30:40
that's going on in the community and bring you if this is a family of
30:44
events, so if you do go home and you want to come back,
30:47
we're going to be, you know, serving dinners for as long as we
30:49
can, probably to at least eight, as long as the supply of fish
30:53
holds out and I'll be honestly, I'd like to have that problem that we
30:57
run out of fish because we bought a lot of a lot of fish.
31:00
Nothing like it. Absolutely, Chris has always men's pleasure to talk to you.
31:04
Which you the best things start the big fish Fry, you get fish
31:07
fries, hush puppies, coleslaw, corn on the cotton. We'll have some
31:12
dessert as well, and desert fifteen fifteen dollars. I mean, that's a
31:17
bargain. And if you want to stick around there and tour the shrine facility
31:19
and have Chris and the folks that show your round show what they have.
31:22
If you do have something upcoming, like some sort of an event, you
31:25
know whatever family reunion, wedding, whatever memorial service, whatever it is,
31:30
you can take a tour of the facility. Their best parking out at Charleston,
31:33
right next to the Colos Seaman Convention Center. Can't beat it. Chris,
31:36
good luck to you man. We'll talk soon. Thanks super Dave.
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Jeff, good morning. Uh wow. I touched on this briefly yesterday,
34:59
but that it was only the beginning talking about this thing with the Upshter County
35:01
in the state school board. You have an in depth story post at wv
35:06
Metronews dot com. Let's review because there's a lot to cover here, to
35:09
kind of take it from the top how this whole thing happened the meeting yesterday,
35:15
to take it take it from there, Okay, Dave, Yeah,
35:16
So you know, during the pandemic school systems. You know, as part
35:21
of the federal money that flowed to a lot of places, school systems,
35:25
all school systems in West Virginia received certain amount of federal money, had to
35:30
base on formuland different things. And Upshter County received over three years, they've
35:35
received sixteen million dollars, okay, And so there's only certain ways you're allowed
35:39
to spend that money, you know, there are certain guidelines. Now,
35:43
the state Department of Education has an office and its hand has had an office
35:47
you know, for years and years that reviews federal programs, Your reviews counties
35:53
on you know, how they're spending federal money. Can get fed the money
35:57
for a number of things, you know, in education. And and so
36:01
this office actually took on when the federal money came down in relation to the
36:07
pandemic to all fifty five counties. That was an added duty for this office
36:10
to review how that was spent. I remember previous state school board meetings in
36:15
months past, they would get a report from this office saying, yeah,
36:17
we've reviewed so many counties and we're keeping an eye on it and you know,
36:21
different type of things. So they were doing a review of Upster County
36:27
late last year, the federal review program was within the state Department of Education,
36:30
and some red flags started to be raised. And now that's where it
36:37
gets Okay, so the state board wasn't really alerted. They say to the
36:46
you know some of these issues. State school Superintendent David Roach was alerted to
36:52
some of those, his assistant superintendent who or his deputy superintendent who had been
36:57
the superintendent and Upster County when this spending took place, she was came out
37:04
yesterday. She was involved in some of those review meetings. The Federal Office
37:08
of Review person who gave their report yesterday said that was kind of an uncomfortable
37:13
situation, you know, because they're talking about things that she had approved and
37:15
she's in some of these meetings. So anyway, so that kicks in.
37:21
So this federal review was posted on the state Partner of Education website in March.
37:25
You know, all these reviews are posted in this particular review just from
37:29
this office. Now this is not a special investigation at this point, but
37:32
it was posted and you know, you saw some of the things the report,
37:37
and then and then and then some citizens in Upstre County stepped up and
37:42
they fade some things or you know, wondering why things hadn't taken the next
37:46
step with some of these issues, and State Superintendent roach from the from information
37:52
that came out yesterday. He informed the State Board of Education last month at
37:57
the end of May that, you know, there are some problems here.
38:01
The Deputy superintendent was going to be let go, moved on, and a
38:07
special circumstances review was going to take place. So that kind of steps it
38:09
up to the Department Educations Accountability Office because there are so many red flags.
38:15
They so they go in, they make an unannounced visit to Upster County,
38:20
they start reviewing some of these documents. The federal office has also reviewed obviously
38:23
some of the documents, and then a report was made yesterday. So you've
38:27
got got kind of two things here. One is or more yeah, exactly,
38:30
one is the spending that took place, and the review that really is
38:35
just kind of you know, they looked at they said yesterday only kind of
38:38
one percent of the documents, you know, so there's a lot more to
38:42
go here, but there was enough red flags and there was one percent of
38:45
the documents to say was some of the stuff wasn't spent the right way,
38:50
And so you've got that ongoing, and then you've got the controversy of when
38:54
did David Roach know and how come he didn't tell the school board up front
39:00
more about this the state school board. So that created some tension, big
39:04
time tension between Roach and the school board. So you can feel the tension
39:07
actually in the meeting yesterdays, the school board is getting this report. Roach
39:09
is kind of you know, he's involved, but you know, you can
39:14
tell some of the members are upset at Roach. And so they have an
39:17
executive session. So they come out of the executive session and they announced they
39:22
actually had a couple of executive sessions, but basically they come out yesterday afternoon
39:25
to day, we're gonna take over. We're gonna ceize control of the Upster
39:30
County school System. And the states dentists in the past and some counties Locan
39:34
County, Lincoln County, other counties where they've seized control. But they seized
39:37
control immediately of the system. Immediate, yeah, immediately of the system.
39:42
Sent the state police over there, and so they appointed Steve Watching, who's
39:46
a retired superintendent from Preston County, to be the new superintendent. Then I
39:51
thought it was interesting because the motion that was approved by the State Board of
39:55
Education, said that the deputy superintendent of schools, who it's not the former
40:01
but now the deputy superintendent schools would be kind of in charge of all this,
40:06
not the superintendent of the state superintendent school so Roach wouldn't be in charge
40:09
of this. I'm thinking that's kind of interesting because informer takeovers, the state
40:14
school superintendent oversees it all. Right, So now they said the deputist said,
40:17
well, that goes to show that Roach is not in a very good
40:21
standing with the board. They had a review of Roach. It was already
40:23
on the agenda yesterday, a review of his performance after a year, because
40:27
he came in last August. They came out of that and voted him satisfactory
40:31
on a review. And then by about six o'clock or five thirty the right
40:36
four six, I learned, we learn the news room learns that Roach is
40:40
retiring, and they're going to accept his retirement in the meeting next Friday,
40:45
the twenty third, and then then put a new superintendent in place. State
40:50
superintendent. This is all happening, Jeff, in real time. Oh yeah,
40:52
I mean, this was an all day meeting, and I and I
40:55
talked about on the show yesterday. I even told you, I said,
40:58
look if something breaks, just in the newsroom and talk about that. And
41:00
then I jump in the vehicle yesterday and I'm driving and I'm listening to you
41:05
and Hoppy and you're playing excerpts, and I'll say this about Paul Hardessey.
41:07
You know, Logan guy, I've known Partisy literally my entire life. Hardesse's
41:13
not want to be messed with. And he takes control of the situation.
41:15
And the thing about it is he's got experience in doing this kind of thing
41:20
because he was because of his time and down in Logan County when the Universtates
41:23
sacred of the school. But this maybe something. I mean, I don't
41:27
know. You've covered this a lot longer than I have. I don't know
41:30
that I've ever heard of a situation like this where they say we're taking it
41:32
now, sees the building basically secure the building, lock it out. I
41:37
mean, I've never heard of anything like that. If you well, yeah,
41:43
to do it that quickly, you know, you know, maybe not
41:46
to go over that day and do it. But there's you know, and
41:51
what the seizure does is that limits control of the local boards and the local
41:53
school board. The elected school board up in Upstra County, now we can
41:57
only do certain things and takes its power away the new development today. And
42:00
Hardesty said this during the meeting yesterday that some of this looks criminal. Oh
42:05
yeah, that's what that's according to Hardesty. Well, we've talked to Bill
42:08
ellen Feld this morning, the US Attorney for Northern West Virginia, and he
42:14
says his office has taken the lead on an invested criminal investigation into the spending.
42:20
Now, you know, we've listed some of this. You can read
42:22
actually the Special Review Report or the the Special Circumstances Report is linked in our
42:28
story at wbmatrans dot com. But we also list some of the things the
42:30
school We're talked about some of the spending U and you know it was money
42:35
that was kind of additional salary that was paid to folks out of some of
42:38
that federal money that that shouldn't been It was a you know, most of
42:44
the things that got clicked on yesterday that you know that we tweeted were the
42:50
the retreats at Stonewall Jackson Resort for food and beverages, uh, the retreat
42:54
at Bed and Breakfast seven miles from the Board of seven months Johnson, It's
43:00
not that it's like why do you why do you retreat twenty five miles from
43:05
where you are? Yeah? And a restaurant too, Yeah, and at
43:08
a restaurant CEJGEJ Maggie Yeah, several thousands of dollars. Uh so uh yeah,
43:15
So those things just like you know, and so again the investigations,
43:21
there's still a lot of documentation I think to go through. So this is
43:23
going to be a long drawn out thing. Um. But now the state
43:27
is in control of the school system, Steve watching will get in their former
43:30
Preston County School superintendent. You'll get in there, see what the situation is,
43:35
and start running the school system on a day to day basis. Wow.
43:37
And but uh and I do want to say this that, uh,
43:39
State author JB. Mccusky issued a statement yesterday about this basically I'm comparaphrasing basically
43:45
saying, we're aware of this, so we're watching it too, because you
43:49
know they're going to be involved in this probably at some point too. Before
43:51
we let you go, Jeff, I want to talk about the death of
43:52
Warren McGraw. What what an iconic figure in the world of politics in West
43:58
Virginia. Well you think of House of Delhi, gats, State Senate,
44:01
State Senate, President, Supreme Court Justice, Woming County prosecutor, Wyoming County
44:08
Circuit judge. I mean, you know, you put him and his brother
44:13
Darryl together and the influence that they had in political circles and also judicial circles
44:20
in West Virginia, and it's a I mean, it's a fifty plus year
44:24
career. He retired two years ago, uh, saying at the time that
44:30
he suffering from Parkinson's and he just couldn't do the job anymore. And his
44:34
last job was Wyoming County Circuit judge. And so yeah, so now he
44:39
has passed. You can read more about at wv Metro news dot com.
44:44
Here a lot of people think and Harvey Payton mentioned and you know a lot
44:46
of people will remember probably the most high profile thing was the was the campaign
44:51
against Brent Benjamin two four, yeah, two thousand and four and the racing
44:57
rant, you know down at racing at at the John Slack Park. You
45:01
know when we were there. I was there, Yeah, I was on
45:04
Labor Day and that year and John Kerry was there that day presidential candidate.
45:08
Um. But yeah, when he became very animated. Oh yeah yeah,
45:15
and they used that animated about just people falling around on the campaign trail.
45:20
Um and so. But anyway, war McGraw long again, long long history.
45:27
Randolph his son used to be you know it was. You know it
45:29
was in the legislature. It's an attorney, um so uh so, really
45:36
an influential character, no, no doubt about it. All right, And
45:40
the program we note here a hobby. He's going to spend some time talking
45:43
about that today. He's gonna have on Rick Stayton, a former legislator who's
45:45
been on this show in the past. Rick Stayton is a former legislator who's
45:49
from Mi Wyoming County area, and he's going to talk about that coming up
45:52
at teno so sometime during that talk, Jeff, I know you're really busy,
45:55
man. I appreciate it. Thanks a lot for being here. Okay,
45:58
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