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  Speaker 1: It's thirty eight.
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  Speaker 1: tonight's episode, of disguised coverage, we will be diving.
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  Speaker 2: Into the Buffalo Bills.
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  Speaker 1: Initial fifty three man roster cut down day was today, Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: August twenty seventh. The Buffalo Bills had to be roster
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  Speaker 1: compliant by four pm Eastern, and they were. We've got
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  Speaker 1: released to talk about. We've got some surprising cuts, We've
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  Speaker 1: got some surprising keeps to discuss. We've got some potential
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  Speaker 1: moves on the horizon in terms of going forward and
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  Speaker 1: what to expect in the coming days based on who
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  Speaker 1: made the roster and what things kind of look like.
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  Speaker 1: And also within that conversation throughout this episode, especially for
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  Speaker 1: those of you who are joining me live here, but
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  Speaker 1: if you're not watching live and you're watching later or
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  Speaker 1: listening later, kind of what I want to do throughout
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  Speaker 1: the entirety of this episode is go position group by
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  Speaker 1: position group on this team and kind of give it
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  Speaker 1: a label in terms of like how good is it, Like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for for example, we'll talk about the running backs.
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  Speaker 2: Is this a.
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  Speaker 1: Position group that is good enough to you know, be
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  Speaker 1: on a team that wins their division or a team
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  Speaker 1: that makes the wildcard, or a team that wins the conference,
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  Speaker 1: or a team that wins the Super Bowl. I kind
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  Speaker 1: of want to do that to put the position groups
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  Speaker 1: into perspective, but also in terms of how good the
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  Speaker 1: roster is as a whole. I think that's a spot
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  Speaker 1: we're kind of coming to when it comes to the
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  Speaker 1: conversation about the roster. So much of the roster conversation
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  Speaker 1: roster reacts are tied to individual players, and I think
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  Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense, Right, you know, so
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  Speaker 1: and so made it so and so didn't. I'm happy,
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  Speaker 1: I'm upset. Here's why this guy is a free agent.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go after this guy to replace this guy. And
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  Speaker 1: a lot of it is just in a vacuum in
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  Speaker 1: terms of player versus player and who guys are. But
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  Speaker 1: I think the bigger conversation, and one thing I think
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  Speaker 1: is pretty interesting, is again, how good is that position
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  Speaker 1: group to the team and how important is it to
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  Speaker 1: the team as a whole, and how does all of
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  Speaker 1: that come together in terms of what this roster is.
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of the individual conversations dominate the
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  Speaker 1: bigger roster landscape conversation, and I think it's one that
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  Speaker 1: we don't have enough in terms of kind of really
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  Speaker 1: forecasting what this team is going to be this year,
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  Speaker 1: and then a larger conversation after that, which we're not
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  Speaker 1: going to have on this episode, but how that impacts
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  Speaker 1: things going forward down the road twenty twenty five, twenty six,
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  Speaker 1: I want, and so forth. So I think a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things are gonna be fun to discuss tonight in
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  Speaker 1: this episode. And for those of you joining me live,
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  Speaker 1: greatly appreciate you being here. Thank you very much. Drop
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  Speaker 1: alke on this video if you're willing and able, and
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  Speaker 1: you'd be so kind.
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  Speaker 2: But as we go through.
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  Speaker 1: With each topic and break each piece down, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I know this is a day that's important for a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people. So questions, thoughts, comments, concerns, anything and
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  Speaker 1: everything you got, put it up into the chat. I
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  Speaker 1: will bring up as many things as humanly and physically possible.
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  Speaker 1: Super chats always get priority because I respect the monetary donation,
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  Speaker 1: and the color brings me away from my notes and
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  Speaker 1: puts me back on the screen. So anything and everything
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  Speaker 1: you got, put it up into the chat. I want
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  Speaker 1: to make this as interactive as possible, especially because I'm
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  Speaker 1: riding solo tonight, but also just because I know a
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  Speaker 1: lot of you folks have a lot of thoughts and
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  Speaker 1: feelings just based on how the roster is shaping up
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  Speaker 1: right now, and some cuts, some notable cuts, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of notable additions, some omissions, so on and
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  Speaker 1: so forth, that whole conversation piece. I want to start
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  Speaker 1: going through the chat right now. We already got a
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  Speaker 1: super chat.
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  Speaker 2: Got stop. Oh it's from Lauren. Lauren says, relieved to
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  Speaker 2: see that the tree.
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  Speaker 1: That the tree you've cut down day. Love you, Anthony,
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  Speaker 1: You're the best. I love you too, Lauren. I greatly
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  Speaker 1: appreciate you being here and watching and think you very
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  Speaker 1: much with the super chat.
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  Speaker 2: Lauren. You are you are, you are a gem. Miss
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  Speaker 2: you on the Twitter space.
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  Speaker 1: But I respect your your wishes to step away, and
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  Speaker 1: if I didn't have the show, I'd probably do the
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  Speaker 1: same thing.
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  Speaker 2: So I appreciate you being here. Thank you very much
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  Speaker 2: of the kind words and the super chat and just
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  Speaker 2: being here. Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 1: I knew what you Lauren puts in the asterisk and
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  Speaker 1: says survived. I knew that you had omitted a word.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know what the word was, but I knew
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  Speaker 1: that what you were going for was that the tree
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  Speaker 1: survived cut down day or the tree made cut down days.
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly right. If we're going through a one through
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  Speaker 1: fifty three, the tree is one. It starts with the one.
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  Speaker 1: Even if we're talking Bills, I think it's the tree
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  Speaker 1: and then Josh Allen, I just don't see anyway around it.
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  Speaker 1: I think what's also nice too, is the trees made
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  Speaker 1: a lot of like salary cap team friendly moves. He's
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  Speaker 1: just he's great on the field, he's a good leader.
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  Speaker 1: Just everything is just fantastic, Charles says Mike White, signed
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  Speaker 1: to the Bills practice squad. Is that are you telling
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  Speaker 1: me this or are you wishing this or trying to
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  Speaker 1: put it out into the ether.
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  Speaker 2: That's also a good point too.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So it's Tuesday, August twenty seventh, right now, it's
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  Speaker 1: currently nine oh eight pm.
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  Speaker 2: As things are breaking.
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  Speaker 1: If anything happens, if there's a news note, if it's
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  Speaker 1: something kind of coming through you folks know how we
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  Speaker 1: do here, put it up into the chat, let me
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  Speaker 1: kind of know what's going on. I'd love to have
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  Speaker 1: as many breaking pieces that we can kind of discuss
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  Speaker 1: in factor in as possible, or.
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  Speaker 2: Just just the trees took a hometown discount. That's right.
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  Speaker 1: The Tree did take a hometown discount. It's kind of
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  Speaker 1: like a Tom Brady hometown discount.
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  Speaker 2: Though.
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  Speaker 1: The Tree has a whole bunch of The Tree is
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  Speaker 1: its own brand, right, So the Tree has a clothing line.
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  Speaker 1: The Tree has a whole bunch of Christmas products that
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  Speaker 1: it sells. The Tree owns a couple restaurant chains, so
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  Speaker 1: he does a lot of different pieces. Oh appreciate everybody
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  Speaker 1: coming into the chat right now on I like just
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  Speaker 1: the Tippican who saying it already needs the Halloween decorations.
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  Speaker 1: It's number too early. It is a little bit right now.
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  Speaker 1: But once September hits, I'll do something for opening week,
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  Speaker 1: but then we're jumping right into fall decorations for September.
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  Speaker 1: Then we'll go Halloween, and then we'll do more fall,
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  Speaker 1: but Thanksgiving.
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  Speaker 2: Ish for November. Oh so Mike White is confirmed per source.
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  Speaker 2: I guess we will. Well, I'll save that for the
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  Speaker 2: That's good. The Tree has a rich wife that makes
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  Speaker 2: more money than he does. I like that.
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  Speaker 1: So the Tree is just free to kind of freelance
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  Speaker 1: and you know, pursue passion projects because the breadwinner is
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  Speaker 1: the wife, and so he's able to just kind of
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  Speaker 1: do whatever he needs to because he doesn't have to
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  Speaker 1: worry about providing for the family.
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  Speaker 2: I like that. I like that a lot. Oh. I
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  Speaker 2: like that Mike White move.
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  Speaker 1: It goes hand in hand with kind of the quarterback
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  Speaker 1: position grouping that I was going to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: But we will get into that as we kind of
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  Speaker 2: go through. Let's start with I guess we'll start with
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  Speaker 2: the initial surprises.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to bake some of them into the conversation
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  Speaker 1: as we go through. Also, everybody in the chat really
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  Speaker 1: lighten up. That Mike White news is absolutely tremendous. Anything
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  Speaker 1: else you see, let's keep going through. Let's keep going through. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: really good question from Mitch saying what position group surprised
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  Speaker 1: you the most. I think that's going to lead into
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  Speaker 1: you nail that I was going back and forth. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: should I start with quarterbacks because the Mike White news
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  Speaker 1: now or should I stay kind of the course with
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  Speaker 1: what I was gonna do. And I'm gonna take this
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  Speaker 1: as a sign from you, Mitch that I should stay
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  Speaker 1: the course. So this first segment here just initial surprises
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  Speaker 1: with the fifty three man roster, and again, those of
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  Speaker 1: you playing at home, let me know what your surprises
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  Speaker 1: are in terms of who didn't make the roster, who
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  Speaker 1: did the who did make the roster, and why. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I can guess a couple of them already,
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  Speaker 1: but I appreciate you, Mitch. I'm going to start with
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  Speaker 1: I'll start from a position group standpoint.
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  Speaker 2: A couple.
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  Speaker 1: Really all tied into one because of individual players. So
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  Speaker 1: corner and linebacker are the ones that surprised me the most. Really,
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  Speaker 1: we'll start with Dakon Hardy. I think it's the low
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  Speaker 1: hanging fruit. I thought daik One Hardy was gonna make
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  Speaker 1: this squad. I didn't think his return elements were too poor.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about it during the show and Robert, are
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  Speaker 1: you saying Hardy hurts? We talked about it in the
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  Speaker 1: post game show after the Carolina game, kind of putting
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  Speaker 1: the roster together. We talked about it last week in
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  Speaker 1: the Roster Projection show. I thought the you know, I
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  Speaker 1: thought there were a couple of returns that McDermott would
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  Speaker 1: take umbradge with in terms of not liking the smart
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  Speaker 1: decision or the play or just the overall approach from
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  Speaker 1: dakek Onon Hardy at punt returns. Specifically, the one that
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  Speaker 1: immediately comes to my mind as top is that one
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  Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh where he gets it basically runs all the
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  Speaker 1: way back to like the one yard line, gets away
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  Speaker 1: from it and gets up the sideline.
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  Speaker 2: But for Sean McDermott, he's not gonna be a fan
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  Speaker 2: of that.
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  Speaker 1: And we know from what Sean McDermott said, he was
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  Speaker 1: drafted to be on this team as a punt returner,
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  Speaker 1: like his job was to be the punt returner. So
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  Speaker 1: Sean McDermott didn't feel comfortable and secure in that. That
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  Speaker 1: to me has to be the reason why he didn't
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  Speaker 1: make this roster. And you know, John Say and Hardy
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  Speaker 1: may come back to the practice squad.
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  Speaker 2: He could.
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  Speaker 1: He's got a clear waiver, so there's a chance he
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  Speaker 1: could come back to the Bills and maybe that's what
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  Speaker 1: they want.
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  Speaker 2: But return elements aside, I thought he played well at corner.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we talked about him.
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  Speaker 1: I did some film pieces on him, just his feel
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  Speaker 1: for zone, being responsible in his own but reading the
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  Speaker 1: route distribution and making the breaks on the ball.
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  Speaker 2: If not for his size and frame, I.
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  Speaker 1: Think he would have had two or three interceptions just
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  Speaker 1: in that Pittsburgh game alone. He battled out there, had
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  Speaker 1: a couple of good reps against the run, a couple
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  Speaker 1: of misses against the run as well, But I just thought,
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  Speaker 1: with what he could be as an outside corner, plus
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  Speaker 1: his affinity to play on the inside like he did
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  Speaker 1: a lot at Penn State, so he had that inside
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  Speaker 1: outside versatility, you have the special teams value. I just
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  Speaker 1: thought that combined with how well he played, what helped
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  Speaker 1: make the squad now going against him within the corner grouping.
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  Speaker 1: And we're going to dive into more of it when
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  Speaker 1: we get to corner. But just in terms of outside corners,
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  Speaker 1: you've got Rasoul Douglas, Christian Benford, Kyer Elim, JaMarcus Ingram,
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  Speaker 1: and then I guess technically Brandon Codrington, who we're going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about, who the Bills traded for today, who
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  Speaker 1: looks to be their number one returner, but he's listed
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  Speaker 1: as a corner. JaMarcus Ingram gives you some inside outside versatility.
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  Speaker 1: Cam Lewis is technically a backup nickel in addition to
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  Speaker 1: being a safety. So I guess daik Onon Hardy wasn't
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  Speaker 1: really nickel number two. He's probably going to be corner five.
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  Speaker 1: So I understand the notion of he's really the depth
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  Speaker 1: for the depth, so it's not too crazy to kind
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  Speaker 1: of cut him and hope that he gets to the
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  Speaker 1: practice squad. But I thought he earned a roster spot
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  Speaker 1: with how well he played. I thought he and Tyl
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  Speaker 1: and Grabel were the two biggest surprises of the preseason
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  Speaker 1: in terms of how well they played. Grabel kind of
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  Speaker 1: improved game after game and had some really nice technical
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: moments against the Carolina Panthers with his snash trap in
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  Speaker 1: addition to Pairent that with his athleticism, but already just
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  Speaker 1: really from the scrimmage on, just had good moments week
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  Speaker 1: after week after week at the cornerback spot. We'll see
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  Speaker 1: if he clears Waivers. I don't think it's the end
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  Speaker 1: of the world that he got cut. I do think
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  Speaker 1: it's a surprise. I do think it's disappointing. Again, even
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  Speaker 1: if he did make the roster, he's probably corner five.
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  Speaker 1: Like I still, I think you're putting him behind JaMarcus Ingram,
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  Speaker 1: And even if you love him more than JaMarcus Ingram, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: he's corner four behind Kyrie Elam, But with how much
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  Speaker 1: the cornerback position gets banged up, with Rasoul Douglas, you know,
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  Speaker 1: being a UFA next year. I think you can never
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  Speaker 1: have enough good cornerbacks on a team. I thought Hardy
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  Speaker 1: showed a lot of promise and ability, so I was
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  Speaker 1: I was surprised on that to see him get cut.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he was pretty close to a lock after
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  Speaker 1: how he played in each preseason game. Tying into that
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: casey two Hill being cut, I think two Hill, And
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: also to kind of put this in perspective, I think
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: there are some moves that the Bills can make going forward,
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: specifically with reguarded the receiver position, which we're going to
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  Speaker 1: talk about in the next segment here. But I think
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  Speaker 1: two Hill he's a hustle guy. He's a I hate
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  Speaker 1: the people to say it X. I feel like it
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  Speaker 1: does that player into service and puts the wrong image
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  Speaker 1: into people's minds because it's not sexy and it's not
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  Speaker 1: fun at the edge position. But he was out for
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  Speaker 1: the entirety pretty much of training camp and the preseason,
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  Speaker 1: suited up for the Carolina game. Granted, it was his
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  Speaker 1: first game and first game action, and he had just
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  Speaker 1: started ramping things up, so maybe he was knocking.
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  Speaker 2: The rust off.
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  Speaker 1: But I wasn't particularly impressed with how he played against Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: I made sure to keep an eye out for him
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  Speaker 1: because it was his only preseason opportunity to kind of see, like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, if this dude's gonna make something happen, it's
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  Speaker 1: got to be in this game. And I literally made
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: a note to myself that I felt bad for him
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  Speaker 1: because he only gets one game to kind of show
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  Speaker 1: what he can do, and his performance in that game
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  Speaker 1: wasn't too strong. He set the edge good against a
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  Speaker 1: run a couple of times, but even as like a
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  Speaker 1: main run defending edge with a high motor and effort,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't love his performance. He doesn't really offer much
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  Speaker 1: from a pass rush perspective. I think he could be
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  Speaker 1: the first man out if the Bills make another roster move,
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  Speaker 1: if they need to release somebody because they want to
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  Speaker 1: sign somebody else and make a move. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: think he's the first one that kind of gets dropped,
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  Speaker 1: or I could be way out of the park on
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  Speaker 1: this one. And they really like him, and they think
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  Speaker 1: he's going to be a good depth guy and a
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  Speaker 1: motor guy, and there's value in that. But I just
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  Speaker 1: I didn't see that coming, mainly because he got no burn,
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  Speaker 1: which isn't really his fault because of the injuries, but
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  Speaker 1: he didn't get any burn this preseason, not a ton
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  Speaker 1: of camp action, and then he didn't really stand out
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  Speaker 1: in a positive manner against Carolina. Honestly, even from a
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  Speaker 1: standout perspective, he didn't really stand out at all. And
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: Mitch saying too will shock me the most. I guess
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  Speaker 1: I under estimated how they view him on special teams.
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  Speaker 1: Could be yeah, or maybe we just underestimated him overall
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: because they just like the role that he plays, and
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  Speaker 1: he was brought in for a specific role and he
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: was going to make it no matter what. To me,
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: this to me casey two Will being on the roster
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  Speaker 1: says he was gonna make it no matter what, and
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: this was already kind of preordained and determined, or it
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  Speaker 1: says he he's right there on the fringe and if
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  Speaker 1: he kinda if there's another move they want to make,
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  Speaker 1: he's the first man out and they're dropping him and
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna sign somebody else or do something else. I
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  Speaker 1: like this from Mark who says Young Dreazy made it?
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  Speaker 1: Did he really earn it?
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  Speaker 2: Though?
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  Speaker 1: I like Young Drezy is the nickname for Joe Andreeson.
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  Speaker 1: I like it better than Buffalo Joe. Young Drezy is
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  Speaker 1: the name that Joe Andresen needs to have.
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  Speaker 2: He did earn it. We're gonna talk about it when
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: we get the linebackers.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: But fair question to ask, and Steve says, two hills
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: the casualty if we find someone we want to add,
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: which is all fair. I'm just surprised to see again,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: I with how little we saw of him this offseason
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: and then almost a non existent lackluster performance against Carolina,
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't see it coming.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: But lo and behold, there we are. Last piece is
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: well linebacker.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: Not too surprising for me, but Nicholas Morrou making the squad.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: So officially the linebackers as of now you have Trel
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Bernard Dorny and Williams Bale, Inspector, Nicholas Moreau, ed afon Ulafocio,
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Joe Andresen aka Young Drezy, and then Matt Mulano who's
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: put on the IR with a designated to return notification,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: which is something we're also going to speak about with
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: another position group as we go forward here. So officially
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: the Bills are keeping six. If you want to get
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: technical at seven because Matt Milano on the IR designated
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: to return this year. I like keeping Moro. He's somebody
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: who I've consistently said I would take him as linebacker three.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Like if it was milanal Bernard as the starters and
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: a third linebacker had to come on the field.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: I would put Moreau out there. And even right now, I.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Like the idea of Dorrian Williams gaining more experience, and
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: I think he made improvements from last year. I still
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: think there's something to be desired when it comes to
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: his processing and his play recognition and is diagnosing. And
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: this is a really good way to say from Justice Tipican,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: who who says Moro just feels Moro does let me
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: read this right, Moro just feels safe. Safe can be
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: a good thing. That's exactly what I think. He's just
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: a known quantity, high floor, not sexy, capable starter veteran.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: He's not going to make a huge difference. He's not
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: a difference maker or a huge playmaker, but he's responsible.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: You know what you're getting.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I would take that as my third linebacker behind Milano
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: and Bernard. I would also take it next to to
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Rel Bernard for the athleticism and the upside that Dorian
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Williams gives you. I still again, I think there's something
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: to be said for the processing and the misleading that
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: happens to him in the past game, whether it's play
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: action or just pass stuff. In general, he can still
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: kind of his eyes can still lead him by the wayside.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: I think they've caught up to his feet and to
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: his athleticism much more so though they did last year.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: But there's still something that's needed there from a coverage
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: standpoint in terms of spot drep mainly in zone, spot
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: drop zone, the match coverage stuff, but even with some
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: man components as well. So I understand both sides of it,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: right You know, you want to start Dorian Williams. You
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: got the athleticism year two, you invested a Day two
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: pick on him last year. You want him to start
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: to develop and take kind of that next step in
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: the journey. But for me right now, I just feel
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: more comfortable with Nicholas Moreau on the field.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: But I'm a little surprised that he made the squad.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Just because that means they keep six linebackers, not including
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Matt Milano, and he has not played this preseason. This camp,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: like hasn't been able to really get it going with
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: the growing slash core muscle injury that he's had. But
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I also think that how many linebackers they captain running
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: get more into this one.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: We talk linebackers.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I think that also speaks to the special team's value
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: at the linebacker position, maybe more so this year than
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: years past because of the new kickoff coverage rules and
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. This is a good room
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: from Lauren, who says two well has a double double
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: letter last name, and Bean loves double letter last names.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Hashtag science.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're smart. You know where you work. I'm
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: not gonna put it on blast, but you're smart. So
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: if anybody knows science, you know science. That makes sense
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: that John says that Lauren, I didn't realize that.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: I'll keep an eye out going for could be. Could be. Yeah.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: And here's the piece from Justin tipic Canu. Right with
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: regards to Morrow, we said we overthink it.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Sometimes.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: He was a solid piece on the e that's got
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: to mean something. I know the Eagles fell apart last year,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: especially on defense. And again, he's not sexy. There's not
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: a ton of upside Like I don't think you take
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Nicholas Moreau and plug him into a defense and that
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: defense changes and is revolutionized. But I think it's something
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: to be said for just having a known quantity safe
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: aspect out there, especially with the veteran experience that he
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: has the knowledge to know howse So we'll see kind
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: of what happens there. Ryan Ryan says, if you rearrange
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: the letters of Casey Deo Hill's name, it spells Noah Brown.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: I like that. I like that a lot.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Let's tie that into the next piece here. Once some wants,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: maybe even some need is going forward. A lot of
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: you have said it in the chat. I tweeted it
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: earlier today. I really really really really really want Noah Brown.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: That's just for me.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I did a profile on him earlier this offseason when
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: a pre free agency in like February. I I d'd
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: him as a good fit with this Bill's offense just
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: because of his size, his frame, his skill set, but
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: also at they anticipated costs. He went back to the
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Houston Texans on a one year, four million dollar deal,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: which I found surprising at the time just given who
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: else was there. I figured somebody from the Texans wide
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: receiver cover was going to get dropped. They have Nico Collins,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: they have digs, they have tanked out and then it's
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: like Noah Brown and John Metchi and Robert Woods and
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Xavier Hutchinson and then they signed Ben Scarnic this offseason too.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I was just like, somebody, somebody's got a drop. I
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: thought it would be Robert Woods.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I thought maybe it would be John Metchi because they
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: could get some trade value for him. As Yeah, Nobiel
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: says in the comments, I'm surprised the Texas didn't release
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Robert Woods and said, yeah, I thought r Woods Woods
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: combined Robert and Woods and made Woods that some kind
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: of sound sweet.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I thought Bobby Trees would be the odd
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: man out. He was not.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I do like Noah Brown and just what he can do,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: who he is and also his fit within. I'm pulling
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: up my notes right now on him because I have
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: them on my phone and not on my notepage typed
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: up already because I'm an embarrassment and.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Messed up. Scroll everybody, AMusA.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: There we go. So Noah Brown, he attacks leverage and
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: sells routes with body language, toughness. After the catch, he
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: wins consistently downfield on sits hooks, overs posts and corners.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: He transitions well from receiver to runner, and he can
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: separate with physicality in his stem or at the break.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: There were times last year where the Texans wide receivers
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: were banged up and when he had to answer the call.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: He answered the call.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: And his size listed at six foot two, two hundred
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: and fifty pound two hundred and fifteen pounds, I should
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: say he can function as a blocker in addition to
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: being an actual receiver. He has some inside outside versatility
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: and seeing what he could be coming from the Texans
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: offense given the role that he had there and just
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: their use of condensed formations and having reduced formational with
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I just thought he would fit well in this offense
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: that I thought would use more condensed formations this year,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: more reduced formational with receivers that can block and insert,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: but also function in the play action game and also
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: get vertical. He really can do a lot of things.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I think it would be an absolutely tremendous wide receiver.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Five.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: I would drop marquezval this scantling and pick up Noah
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Brown immediately right now. And actually where is good question
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: from Mitch Mitchell rushing it tonight, Mitch says, can Noel
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Brown play special teams? Just wondering because I know guys
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: towards the bottom of the depth chart usually need to
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: play teams. Great question, and he can play special teams.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: So again in Houston last year, he had more of
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: a prime wide receiver role. He was kind of like
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: wide receiver three once Tank Dell went down and then
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Nico Collins missed some time. Actually was kind of wide
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: receiver three in the mix with Robert Woods already, but
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: then Tank Dell went down with that broken leg, I think,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: and Collins missed some time. So he played more actual
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: offense and special teams. But his special teams snaps by year,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: so he's been in the league since twenty seventeen. His
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: total special team snaps from twenty seventeen through last year
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: in order, twenty seventeen, one hundred and eighteen, twenty eighteen,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: one sixty one, twenty twenty two, thirteen, twenty twenty one,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety eight, twenty twenty two, seventy nine.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: All of those seasons were with Dallas. Last year was
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: his first and only year up until this point, which
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: isn't going to happen now because he got released with
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: the Houston Texans and he had thirty one last year.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: You're seeing him and if you're looking at everything, he's
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: got punt return coverage experience, kick return experience. So yeah,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: gillad to running the game at kick return, kick coverage,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: punt return, punt coverage, all of the aspects that you
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: would like. So he is going to give you some
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: special teams value in addition to Again, I just think
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: he can do a lot of things.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: He can block, he.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Can function underneath and in the intermediate. He's more of
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: a vertical element or piece than he gets credit for.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Especially if he's running deep overs. He understands how to
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: set those overs up and sell vertical and then snap
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: it off and go across the field. He knows how
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: to lean into a corner and break it off, or
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: how to open up a safety to the wrong direction
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: and then cut underneath him back the other way.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: If you want to see actually.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Actually not because I don't mess things up, go to
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: my I hate to do like a plug like this,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: but my Twitter page. So at pro Underscore, Underscore, ant,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: pro To underscores a NT, just search pro space ant
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Noah Brown and you'll see a bunch of the stuff
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: that I posted today with regard to his profile and
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: who he is. So yeah, he can play special teams,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: function inside outside.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: He's a good blocker.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: He can work in those condensed formations and those sets
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: with reduced formational with because Houston did it a ton
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: last year. I just think he's a really good fit.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I would have taken him over Mac Collins. I like
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Mac Collins. I would have taken Noah Brown ahead of
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: him back during free agency. I kind of would still
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: take them over him now, and I would take him
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: over MBS as well, Pop saying if they signed Noah Brown,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: who would they release? My thought would be mar Marquez
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Val the scantling, although again I know the money even
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: though he's basically got a whole bunch of void years
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: for the next three or so years. I would drop MBS.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I would drop Casey two Hill. Those would be one
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: of my first two moves that I would be looking towards.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I also know you can also get and we're gonna
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: talk about when we get the receivers, but you can
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: get kind of involved in the roster gamesmanship aspect. MBS
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: has a neck injury. Do you put him on the IR.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: You know, who do you put on the IR for
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: season ending? Who do you put on the IR designated
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: to return the gamesmanship you can kind of go in with.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: But if I had to release someone like I would
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: right now. And I feel bad saying this because these
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: are these are jobs for these guys and this is
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: their livelihood. But I would drop MVS right now and
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: bring in Noah Brown, no, no questions asked. I would
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: love Noah Brown as my wide receiver five on any team.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: But I think he actually can be a little bit
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: more than that. Given again, what he can be as
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: a blocker, how he functions in the play action game,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: his size, his frame, and his skill set, and how
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: he wins.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: So we'll see.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: I also know, you know, just to stay on that
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: with the wants, I know, John Metchi was a fun one.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I flirted with the idea of Mechi as well. His
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: preseason tape looked good. He's three years removed from that
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: ACL tear in twenty twenty one, a couple of years
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I believe removed from his kemia diagnosis, but he looked
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: good this preseason. He's always been a good route runner,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: but he's got that good route running element, but the
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: juice is coming back. He operates with deception, he's got
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: some suddenness, he's got good hands, He's looked really good
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: for Houston issues. You're just gonna have to trade for
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: him all the other issue with John Mischi For me,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I don't necessarily love his fit as much as I
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: do Noah Brown. If there was no Curtis Samuel or
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir, I would love Mechi much more. I'd still
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: take him because I got no problem mad in a
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: good wide receiver to my football team. But I like
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Mechi more as Shakir and Samuel insurance. Whereas Noel Brown
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I think is a direct fit given the schematic direction
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: of the offense this year and how I kind of
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: think that they're going to take.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: But I would not be opposed to Mechi.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Those are my two biggest wants, just because of how
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: the receiver room has shaped up based on what the
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: roster is, and also with the murkiness of MBS's potential
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: neck injury. Also just with how he's played, I would
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: like an upgrade at the wide receiver five spot. And
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: also again I just don't want to put too much
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: on keyon Coleman right away, and so having a dude
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: that can just plug and play right now, like Noah
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Brown or even John Metchi. Again, I think Noel Brown
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: is much more realistic. And also because of Noah Brown's
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: your service years, He's a straight up free agent, so
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: he got cut. He can sign with anyone wherever he wants.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that is with the Buffalo Bills.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Bum bum bum what anything else?
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Oh Frank C says Paris Campbell. I like him as
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: a possible Samuel backup you could. I just think Paris
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Campbell's never really been a known quantity or a thing
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: as much as people have wanted him to be. The
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: speed is there, which is fun. I just again, I
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: think the direction of this offense this year, the receivers
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: are gonna have to function in the run game as blockers.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: They're gonna need to be able to be physical against
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: not just like corners and slots, but against like linebackers
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: and edges. You got to be able to dig out
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: safeties and to do all, you know, kind of a
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: little bit of everything in the run game.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: And I think Noel Brown can do.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: That much more than Paris Campbell can and I think
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: as receiving ability is kind of a little bit forgotten
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: in that regard.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna scroll back for some comments. Bump what else?
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: What else?
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: A nice comment here from Robert about Dorrian Williams saying
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: hope is not a plan, but here I am hoping
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: that Dorrian Williams develops.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I wanted to come back to this one just because
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: I've talked about it before.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: But I don't want the development of Dorrian Williams and
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Terrel Bernard and their career trajectories. I don't want those
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: two things to get conflated. I know a lot of
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: people doubted Terrell Bernard at this point last year. Actually,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: at this point last year, I think it was still
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: a question for a lot of people whether it was
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: going to be Dotson or Bernard starting next to Matt Malan.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: And then the year that Bernard had.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: I don't want people to use that as a barometer
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: for Dorry Williams and think, well, look at what happened
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: once Bernard got on the field and that experience and
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: his trajectory and how much better he got. I just
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: don't think it's apples to apples for those two, even
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: though they're both linebackers. The system that Dorrian Williams came
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: from in college at Tulane is vastly different than Terrell
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Bernard's system that he came from at Baylor. Baylor plays
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: a very NFL pro ready style of defense, and Dave
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Randa is the coach there, and Randa's scheme and system
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: fits very well with what Sean McDermott does. There's a
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: lot of same principles and identity philosophical pieces or identity
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: and philosophy pieces within that as well. So Bernard was
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: better prepared for the NFL and better prepared specifically for
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Sean mcdermot's defense. Dorry Williams was not. Dorrian Williams was
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: basically running like Madden type coverages at Tulane, with your
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: basic spot drop type of stuff. So I just don't
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: want those trajectories to confuse. I know you're not saying
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: that here, Robert. I just wanted to use your comment
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: as a jump off point for that conversation piece. But
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: that being said, let's go position group by position group.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: We are going to start with the quarterbacks, and again,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: like I mentioned, those of you playing at home. As
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: we go position group by position group, I want to
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: hear your thoughts. Is this a position group that you
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: can do what with?
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Like how quantify?
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Basically, I want everyone here to quantify how good is
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills roster? And we're going to start by
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: quantifying each position group, and so if you're thinking about it,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: just put it into a perspective of like again, we're
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: gonna start with the quarterbacks now that Mike White is
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: on it, which we're going to talk about. Shout out
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: to the chat for knocking that down, but just putting
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: it into perspective of how good is this position group?
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Is it good enough to win a division? Is it
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: good enough to get to the playoffs with? Is it
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: good enough to win a conference or a super Bowl?
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: To use that as kind of our baseline measurement, and
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: then again put it all together and determining how good
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: this roster is for the Buffalo Bills. A shout out, Oh,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: good job, Pops for answering that question. Cash asked if
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Travis Clayton made the team. Pop said Clayton is on
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the IR and that is correct, Well done to Pop. Yeah,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Travis Clayton is on the IR. So we'll see what
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: kind of happens for him. All right, so let's start
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: with the quarterback grouping, which I think is fun. Again
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: everything I'm going to talk about it what the group
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: is on paper, and what they are from a schematic,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: potential and usage standpoint.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: So is the chat was so kind for announcing earlier
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: in this? Oh?
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Actually, Josh says, an, can we please get to the
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: explanation of how Evans made it over Frank or Junior?
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: We absolutely can once we get the running backs, which
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: is the next position group after quarterbacks. So we will
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: get to that. But just put a pin in that
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: moment or in that question for now. And I started
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: just to make sure I don't forget about it. So
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Justin says, just joined, did we outrage about gorg Junior?
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Yet? Not yet.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: We haven't gotten to running backs, but we will get
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: there shortly. Justin I like that, Josh says, super Bowl
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: with our QB. Josh, Yes, I think if you're looking
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: at the position group, this is a group in good
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: enough to get you the Super Bowl, good enough to
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl for you. I think Josh Allen,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: even for the most critical of analyst and pundits, I
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: think Josh Allen is I don't know I'm thinking of
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: somebody who would rank him like the worst. Well, it's
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: probably like top five, top six, top seven even for anyone.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: But I think most people have him comfortably in the
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: top two or three quarterbacks in the NFL. He should
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: be in everyone's top five. I think he's the second
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: or third best QB in the league, depending on what
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: you're looking for. Yeah, the QB room is set, as
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: James says in the chat, as long as Josh is healthy,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: the QB room is set. So what we had before today,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: before the Mike White news, was just two.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Guys on the roster. It was Josh Allen and Mitch Trubisky.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: However, I didn't expect it to stay that way just
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: because of Mitch Trubisky's injury.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: He's probably going to be.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Out through September, probably in October, maybe November ish. We'll
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: see how much gamesmanship there is with his knee injury.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: And r J says, but apparently he's the most overrated
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. I get it for some right,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: especially for NFL execs or personnel people, who if if
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: you have a defensive minded guy or somebody who really
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: values taking care of the football, they're gonna think Josh
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Allen is less than he is because of how much
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: he turns the football. Where they're not gonna look at
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: big time throws and big time throw percentage.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: They're not gonna look at a lot of the elements
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: in the yin and the yang of Josh Allen.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: They're just gonna look at the elements where he kind
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: of doesn't function traditionally, and I think that's kind of
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: where things get lost in translation. Extra Chrispy says four
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: for US is eight wins, ceiling is thirteen and fourteen.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Very fair, well done again. Lauren Lawrence says even Larry
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: David would agree that Josh Allen is pretty pretty good.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Well done, Well done. Pop says, I thought Milano knocked
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Mike Whyer out of the league.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he speared him with argue like one of the
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: most picture perfect textbook hits and tackles you can have
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: any current modern NFL, even by old school standards. It
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: was beautiful, but especially now, it was forceful, it was impactful,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: it was clean.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: There's too much to write home when it comes the
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: quarterback grouping. If you have Josh Allen, you have a
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: chance to win every single game. I think that position
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: grouping is good enough to get you a division title,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: to get you a conference championship, and then get you
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: to a super Bowl. And again, we'll see what happens
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: with Mitch Trubisky. I expect Mitch Trubisky to get put
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: on the IR Designated to return or not is something
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: of note and of interest. And I like the floor
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: that Mike White gives you all kind of jokes. Aside
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: of him getting rocked by Milano a couple of seasons ago,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: he kind of played admirably for that.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Jet squad and had him in some games and put
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: up some numbers.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: And there's two sides of the conversation with the back
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: of the quarterback, right like, if Josh Allen goes down,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: the season's kind of done, so who cares? But also
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: you still want to be able to have somebody that
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: can mitigate that loss and still try and keep you
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: on schedule and do some things.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: I like the idea of Mike White.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: I think he is your prototypical, you know, insert backup
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: quarterback vernacular here of a game manager and a guy
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: who keeps you on schedule and doesn't anything sexy but
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: kind of keeps you on the right spot and at
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: the right moment, so we'll kind of see what he
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: can be. I like the idea again of him coming
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: in now, getting the rest of this week and all
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: of next week to get ready, and then you know,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: hopefully nothing happens to josh Anell before that or week
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: one and just keeps to learn, keeps having the opportunity
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: to learn and grow.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: And then again, we'll just see what happens with Mitch
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Trubisky here. I'm the roster as of.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Now based on his health, like he's unable to play
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: in Week one at the bare minimum, but more so
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: going forward as well. So I knew there would be
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: another quarterback that would be brought in. I was even
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: down for someone like Bailey's Appy. I don't think you're
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: gonna bring a sexy backup quarterback in at this point.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I think the sexiest would have been like Dorian Thompson
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Robinson from Cleveland, but I believe Cleveland kept him as
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: they kept like four QB's.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Or something like that.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: So Mike White, I think, does you a solid. Also,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: he has some knowledge of the Miami Dolphins playbook because
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: that's where he was most recently. So maybe that helps
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: you kind of one up the Dolphins a little bit.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: And again, I just think he does good backup quarterback stuff,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: keeps you on schedule, isn't gonna hurt you, isn't gonna
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: you know, have these high variants plays in terms of sexiness.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: But I think he's a He's a modern NFL quarterback,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: which is all you want at that spot. And Trubisky
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: kind of looked like a deficiency. So maybe it's even
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: an upgrade over Trubisky. And again, so now we'll keep
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: an eye out in terms of what happens with Trubisky.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Does he get put on the IR, does he get
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: put on the IR with a designation to return? Kind
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: of knock knock all that down and kind of see
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: what we get. And as Dennis says here, Mike White
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: fought like a champ. Impressive seeing a guy take so
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: many hits and keep going. That's a good spot too, right.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: He got laid out by Milano and hurt, and like
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I think it was cracked or broken ribs, he was
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: still like he the proverbial, took a licking and kept
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: on tickings.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: So you know, he's tough.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: He earns the respective dudes in the locker room, and
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I just think he's a solid dude to have as
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: a as a backup quarterback. So good times for Mike
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: White a welcomed edition. I think he was in that
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: that tier of backup quarterbacks I would like to see again,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: guys like I mentioned, like Bailey's appy dudes that were
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: gonna be cheap but can come function is your number
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: two QB?
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Ooh. I like this from Justin says, Mike White gives
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: me Tommy Maddocks five. You can win, but you don't
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: want him as your starter? Random? I know, no, I
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: love that comparison.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I remember Tommy Maddocks lighting up the XFL and then
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: being the Steelers QB for a little bit. He won
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: that he was in that game where they came back
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: against Cleveland. It was Tommy Maddox versus Kelly Holcombe, Steelers.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Versus Browns playoffs.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: That was like one of the best playoff games I
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: had ever seen up until that point even now, that
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: game was sweet. And then yeah, it was the starter
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: when they drafted Roethlisberger and then Tommy Maddox gave way
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: to Roethlisberger. Nice nice, Ralph says wasn't it like five
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: crack ribs. Yeah, he got jacked up and he was
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: still willing to keep on going. I think even played
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: through it a little bit too, So kudos to him
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: for being a tough guy, which is pretty sweet to
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: seen your backup quarterback. All right now, running back, A
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: couple of comments are already regarding Frank Gore, So Frank
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: or Junior was cut today. The Bills official roster as
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: of right now the INITIATI fifty three, you got James Cook,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Ty Johnson, and Ray Davis. A very interesting one. The
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: fourth running back there is noted in the chat earlier,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: mister Darrington Evans. But what's really interesting with Darrenton Evans
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: here is, like Matt Mulano, Darrington Evans got a injured
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: reserve designation, but the injured reserve designated to return note
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: alongside of it, you get eight IR players who can
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: return in the season. If you make the playoffs, you
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: get an extra two. So if you make the playoffs,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: you get ten, if you don't, you get eight. So
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: just as of right now, you get eight dudes who
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: can return once they're placed on IR. They've essentially already
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: used too. With Matt Milano and Darrnton Evans, So that
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: to me, and I think most people would signal and
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: or imply that once Darrington Evans is off of the
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: IR he will be on the actual game day roster
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: or you know, maybe he's an active but he's gonna
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: be on like the fifty three, like they want him
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: to come back to to you know, again, put that
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: designation on somebody two come back is very interesting, and
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: to have it be your fourth running back is also
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: very interesting. And then even within that, I like the group.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: I like Cook, I like Davis. I think Ty Johnson's
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: a really underrated RB three. I like Frank or Junior.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I did a breakdown of his game against Carolina, and
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I like what he offers. But I think a lot
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: of people are sleeping on Ty Johnson. How good he
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: was under Joe Brady last year, even how good he
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: was with the Jets several years ago. Ty Johnson's a
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: good RB three. Gives you some special teams value. Can
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: function as a rum blocker like in twenty two Pony Personnel.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: He also passed Protteck. He can catch the football, he
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: runs behind his pads. He doesn't he doesn't have the
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: speed or the long speed that Cook does, but he's
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: got some good juice from the ten yard split in
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: the twenty yard area which helps him get downhill and
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: run behind his pads with his side. So I think
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Ty Johnson's a good RB three for me. I'd lock
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: him in at that. So Darrenjon Evan is getting the
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: R designated to return designation I think is really interesting.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: And then in terms of again to go back to
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: that star comment there from Josh saying, can we please
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: get to the explanation on how Evans made it over
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Frank Gordon Junior, I think there're just two different kinds
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: of running backs, right. Gore is an efficient runner, a
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: north and south type of dude, not a bunch of wiggle,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: not a bunch of shake to his game. I describe
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: it as he's a very professional runner, a no nonsense
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: type of runner. He knows how to read his blocks,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: sets up his blocks well. I think he's an offensive
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: alignment friendly type of running back because he uses what
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: is there. He consistently falls forward, he falls through contact,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: fights through contact. But you still don't know what he
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: is in terms of a pass protector. You don't know
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: too much of what he is in the receiving game,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: although we had some nice catches and receptions and plays
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: out in space this year in the preseason.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: But Evans, just Evans is more juice.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: He's more long speed, he's more wiggle, he's more shake,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: He's more in the receiving game as a runner and
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: as a running back in addition to being a runner.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: And then he also gives you some special teams value,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: whether it's return on punt or return on kick, or
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: maybe even just because of his long speed, you want
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: to use him on some coverage units.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: I think he just offers a.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Little more of a overall and well rounded skill set
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: as opposed to Gore. I like Frank Gore Junior a lot.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: I really, really, really really really hope he comes back
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: on the practice squad. But I'm not completely surprised to
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: see Evans and Theory make it over him. I noted
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: it on the show last week. I've noted it in
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: my video on Gore yesterday. I think you can kind
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: of make a case either or for Evans or for Gore,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: just depending on what kind of skill set you're looking for,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: or I thought they could honestly try and keep them
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: both given the fact that they are two different styles
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: of runners. Again, I hope Gore comes back. I like
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: what he put on tape this preseason, and I like
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: how he runs. I like how he approaches the game.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's somebody that's going to turn, you know,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: five into fifteen, or a ten yard gain into twenty,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: or a twelve yard gain into a house call. But
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: he is somebody that'll turn a three yard gain into five,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: or a five yard gain into eight or nine. And
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of value of having a
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: guy who can get hit at the three or the
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: two and fall forward and turn it into a touchdown,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: or a guy who can turn first and ten into
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: second and six or second and five instead of just
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: having it be second and seven. Those yards all add up,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: and especially from a play calling standpoint, your menu is
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: different in terms of second and long versus second and
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: medium versus second and short. So I think Or is
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: somebody that's gonna be He's gonna be on somebody's practice squad.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: If he clears waivers, it'll be through the bills. If not,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: I could see him being claimed by somebody else. I
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: just think he has a professional approach. The name recognition
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: will help him. I am disappointed again to see him
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: be cut. I didn't think he was gonna make the
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: fifty three. Again, I didn't think he was. I didn't
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: think he was gonna jump Ty Johnson for RB three.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: So he wasn't making the fifty three. But I hope
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: he gets a practice squad designation, which would be really, really,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: really nice, Lawrence says, being his horse crux hunting, Milano
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: goes down, he signs the player he most notably tackled, Check,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: signs the local Buffalo resident and several UB players. Check,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: and then signs a man wide receiver from the biggest rival.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Check. I love that. Beans a Harry Potter guy. He's
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Hork cruks hunting. I like that. Oh I missed a
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: super chat. I'm so sorry.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Mark C says Cooks drops will definitely hit different if
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Gore goes to an AFC rival, hands off Andy Reid.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: So Mark does not want to see Frank or Junior
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: end up with the Kansas City Chiefs. I wouldn't want
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: to see that either. I understand the issue on cook right,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: but there is something I do man. I don't remember
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: where that tweet was or when I tweeted it, but
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I wanted to pull up some numbers for him because again,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: I know he had the drops last year. He had
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: seven drops last year. The percentage was not good for him,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: just based on how many targets and what he had.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: So his drop percentage last year was eleven point nine
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: percent regular season n postseason, which is high. But he
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: only had seven drops, so I know they came in
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: high leverage situations. He dropped a touchdown, actually dropped two touchdowns, dropped,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: he dropped that big one against Philly, dropped what would
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: have been a touchdown against Dallas. So I know he's
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: had high profile drops or in high leverage moments. I
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: don't think the drops were as big of an issue
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: as people kind of make it out to be. And
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: even within that, let me go to I'm gonna pull
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: up this tweet from Twitter because some of his advance
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: and I know advanced metrics don't kind of make everything better,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: but the raw stats of who he was and the
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: numbers he put up and how effective he was for
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: this offense last year.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Ah, there we go.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: His receiving ranks last year amongst forty six running backs
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: that had at least thirty targets. He was fourth in
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: EPA fourth and EPA per target second, and positive play
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: percentage second in yards per target, second in yards per reception,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: seventh in year yards per route run, eighth in total
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: yards tied for fourth, and touchdowns tied for seventeenth in
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: overall receptions, and third in quarterback rating when targeted.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: That includes all the drops. So again, those drops are
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: not good.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not coming out and saying like I don't care
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: how many how much he drops the ball and seven
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: is no big deal and eleven point nine percent is fine.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: I don't like those drops. I want those two go down.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: But even within those drops, he had a super strong
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: year as a pass catching and running back last year,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: and so you know, we'll kind of see what he
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: is this year. I feel you though, like if if
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: the same week that Cook has a drop, Frank Gore
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: balls out for an AFC rival, I kind of see
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: how that would be super frustrating and I could see
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Twitter melting down for Bill's Twitter if that was to happen.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: And also, again, Mark, thank you very much for being here,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: and thank you very much for the super chat. I
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: really appreciate it. And yeah, do I do hope we
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: have hands off for Andy Reid because they have a
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: good offensive line. And you know, I wish Frank Gore
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: success anywhere he goes, but I just hope it's not
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: with a team that hurts my heart or just as
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: please don't tell me baby Gore is going to Kansas City.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: I going to Kansas City. I just can't handle the
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: fact the organization trolls us constantly. Oh this is very nice, Lauren,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Lauren says, Anthony's the best. Keep
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: the super Chats coming to show him. Said, well, I
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: appreciate you for that, Lauren, Thank you very much.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Super Chats likes, kind words, fruit baskets sent to my house.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Anything would be accepted. Thank you very much for Lauren.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: That's that's tremendous. I like this from Pop saying, imagine
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: the forty nine ers grabbing Gore. That would be super cool. Also,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: they have such a run friendly scheme. I could see
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: him balling out. But you know, McCaffrey and then Mason
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: are pretty sweet one too. Kind of see what happens there.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: But yeah, and Jamal.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Says, what topic are going on?
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: We just finished talking about the running back position, So
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: that's got them running back in a nutshell. Why I
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: think Evans made it over Gore. I could have gone
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: either way.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: I like them both.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: I would have liked having both of them. I also
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: think Gore doesn't have a lot of speed or juice
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: or athleticism to his game. He's more of a short
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: puncher or a short punchy type of runner than he
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: is kind of this long burner. Again, we talked about
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: he's not busting off these big runs, but I think
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Darrenton Evans could given the juice and speed that he
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: plays with. It's a different skill set in terms of
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: what he is is more of a scatback and go
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: or as more of a traditional north and South type
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: of runner. So a little bit of a different flavor.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: But again, I hope he gets brought back on the
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: practice squad. I do think this is a good group.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I think James Cook, Ray Davis, and Ty Johnson is
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: a group that you can win a division title with.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: I know what Cook's numbers were last year and kind
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: of I just mentioned some of them from a receiving aspect.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I know what he was in the upper echelon in
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: terms of a runner and receiver and how productive that
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: he was. I don't know if he is in that
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: tier schematically, although I do think he's good. And I
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: like Ray Davis and I like Ty Johnson. I like
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: this running back room. I think it's one of the
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: strengths of the team. I think this, if I had
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: to quantify it, I think this is a group that
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: you can win a division title with. And I think
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: this is a team. I don't want to put the
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: caveat in there, but I think this is a position
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: group that you could get to a souper.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Depending on what your.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Wide receiver corps look like, and depending on what your
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: offensive line looks like. Good news is I think the
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Bills have a good old line, and I think they
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: have a good offensive line coach. So I think this
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: is a running back room that you could get to
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: a super Bowl with. But at the very least, this
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: is a group that you can win a division with
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: and compete for a conference championship with, which is what
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I like.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Bum bum, Let's go next. How do we have this
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: laid out? The next position we're going to talk about?
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: I guess technically full back Regie Gilliam made the fifty
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: three No news there no notes. Full back slash h
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: backs slash special teams. Value could maybe do some tight
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: end stuff. I like Regigillium. I know he's not used
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: a ton, but he made the squad next after that.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take a drink of water and then
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the wide receiver position.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Man, it's crazy hot. For some reason.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: The AC isn't working in the office, so I've got
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: the windows open and it's not helping. Like I am,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: I am hot and uncomfortable, but you know, people so
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: for for their art and here I am stuffer for mine.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Bill's kept five wide receivers.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Talked a little about it earlier, you know, in regards
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: to the wants of wanting Noah Brown big time and
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: potentially John Metchi, But the Bills kept five wide receivers Curtis,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Samuel Keon Coleman, Khalil Shakir, Matt Collins, and Mark as
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Valdez Scandaling aka m B S. Joe says, I can't
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: believe they cut the most hyped RB of the preseason.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: kJ Hamler, Yeah, they they cut a lot of receivers today.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: The Justin Shorter hive is disappointed. I think there may
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: have been a Tyrell Shavers hive.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: They're disappointed.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: H Claypool was done and dusted earlier in camp once
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: he got hurt, so that was kind of done. And
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: his pop says, Shavers were so good at camp.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: He had some flashes, he had some buzz. I thought
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: he had some some really good run blocking reps against Pittsburgh.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: But I just don't think there was any receiver that
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: kind of stuck their claim or staked their claim towards
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: carbon out wide receiver six, or even necessarily be eating
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: out MBS's wide receiver five.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: I don't love the idea of MBS at wide receiver five.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: I think he's fine for what he is.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Gives you a little bit of blocking ability in addition
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: to just being a vertical threat and having the speed element,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: the experience that he has and knowing how to get
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: open and knowing how to work professionally in an NFL offense.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: But the route running just isn't consistent, and the drops,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: like everybody knows like he's he's a streaky player or
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: like a flash player in every sense of the word. Right,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: he will drop two or three passes and you never
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: want to see a ball throw to him ever again,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: and then it just feels like he comes up with
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: the biggest catch in the biggest moment, like he did
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: against the Ravens in the AFC Championship to kind of
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: basically ice that game. Like he just seems to show
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: up in big games in big moments, but on the whole,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: he's not very consistent. The most consistent thing about him
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: is his is his inconsistency. Had an ugly drop in
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Week one against the Bears, not a bunch of great
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: block and reps against the Approved, a little bit with
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: his blocking against the Steelers, but still not great. Also
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: has that neck injury. Also doesn't really offer you anything
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: in terms of special teams, and as that comment mentioned
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: earlier from Mitchell saying, you know, just Noel Brown offers
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: special teams value. We know those deaf guys on the
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: Bills roster usually contribute on special teams. MBS is the
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: deaf guy and he doesn't really play special teams. So
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: I still think there could be some gamesmanship that happens
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: here with MBS. I could see him being a game
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: a regular game day inactive. I could see him maybe
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: potentially getting an I arstin. I could see him potentially
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: still getting released if something else comes available. I don't
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: love him as wide receiver five. I'm fine with him
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: if he sticks and if he stays again. He was
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: brought on because of his speed element and the verticality
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: and the professional, you know, experience that he has with
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: the Packers, with the Chiefs, just kind of knowing how
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: to approach the game. But I just think from a
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: skill set standpoint, he is limited. From a role standpoint,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: he is limited. And then again even just the basic
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: thing like the hands are are not ideal. So I'm
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: not too pleased with MVS. James says, the wide receiver
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: room has potential to improve, but at this point it
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: is an average. See looking at the wide receiver room
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: right now again, Curtis, Samuel, Keonkoleman, Khalils Shakir, Matt Collins, Marquez, Valdez, Scantling.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it the line that I gave it
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: earlier this offseason. I think so much of the offense
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: in terms of what it's going to be this year,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: really hinges on Joe Brady. I think this offense has
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of schematic potential more so than it does
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: talent and names on paper. So I think a lot
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: of how successful this receiver room is will be tied
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: to how good the Bills run game is, how well
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: they're able to mix in condensed formations and reduce formational
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: with and picker that with motion and play action and
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: all of these elements to really dress things up and
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: increase the scope and the breath of of the offensive
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: presentation and put defenses into a bund on paper. On paper,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: I do not think this is a Super Bowl winning
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: wide receiver room as of now. If Keon Coleman is
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: ahead of schedule, you're looking at some really good potential
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: with Curtis Samuel, Keon Coleman, and Kolio Shakir. And again,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: if if we're including Dawson Knox as a pass catcher,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: I think it changes the notion of the receiver room
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: or pass catchers. But if we're just talking receivers, I
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: think this is kind of like a wild card type
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: grouping in terms of where it gets your Curtis Samuel
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: I like, but I think he's much more fit as
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: kind of like a load of mid wide receiver two
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: or more of a schematic mismatch wide receiver three slash
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: two type of guy Shakir. I'm hoping he can vault
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: himself into the wide receiver two conversation. We just haven't
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: seen it yet. Keon Coleman, we don't know what he is.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Matt Collins I like, but I don't like him as
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: this target monster true wide receiver one or wide receiver two.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: I like him as a high snapshare guy, good blocker,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: being able to block at all three levels of the defense,
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: but then being able to function in the past game
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: off of that and having value attached to it. And
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: then we talked about MVS already not ideal, and then
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel gets banged up a bunch from time to time.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: So I don't hate this grouping on paper or individually,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: but I think if you look at it on paper,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: this doesn't scream like, man, that's a super Bowl group
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: of wide receivers, or that's a conference winning group of
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: wide receivers. Now, the Ravens went to THEDFC championship last year,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: And I hate using these examples because the scheme is
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: so important and some of the individual players are super important.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: But if you wanted to, you know, play the silver
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: lining game and ignore a bunch of contexts. You can
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: be like, hey, the Ravens won THEDFC Championship last year
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: and they didn't have a stud group of wide receivers,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: And hey, the Chiefs won the Super Bowl last year
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: and their receivers were largely ineffective for a majority.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Of the years. So maybe a wide receiver is not important.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: So on and so forth and all that kind of stuff.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: But I really do hope Noah Brown is brought into
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: this squad. And don't get it twisted. I'm not sitting
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: here saying like, man, if they bring in Noah Brown,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: he's wide receiver and he changes everything about this offense.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: But I do think he is a well rounded contingency
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: plan for the wide receiver room and can do so
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: many things and wear a bunch of hats, and that
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: provides a lot of value to a team that's gonna
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: run the football, use play action and motion and rely
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: on Josh Allen just kind of being sweet and having
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: a good offensive line. Someone like Noel Brown just fits
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: so well into this offense and could help this team
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: so much schematically. Again, I don't think Noel Brown's a
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: needle mover where you put his name on paper and
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: you're like, you know what, now they're a Super Bowl
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: winning wide receiver room, because I don't think that's the case.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: But based on the direction I think this offense is
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: going in, I think Noel Brown moves the needle in
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: a very positive way. But again, a lot of this
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: wide receiver room, what it is is gonna be really
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: dependent on Joe Brady setting them up for success, because again,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: it's just not this individual talented group on paper where
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: it's just set it and forget it. You know, you
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: have one to two or three guys who can win
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: in very specific way and are very established in their roles.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: Even Khalil Shakir, who I like, and I know a
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: lot of people like, we still haven't really seen him,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: seen him be anything other than a down the stretch
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: impact guy and more of like a target three or
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: four type of role. Now you're looking at him, are
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: you looking at him to be wide receiver two? Is
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: he really wide receiver one? Like?
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Who's the wide receiver one on this team? Is it
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel?
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: I know people want it to be key on Coleman,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: but I don't think it is right now, Is it Samuel?
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Is it Shakir Shakira is probably wide receiver two at worst.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Is he ready for that type of role? Like, there's
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: so many ifs and so much of a lacking in
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: terms of known quantity for the receiver room.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: That really just kind of.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Has me worried about the grouping from an individual on
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: paper talent perspective. But again, I think you have a
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: lot of schematic potential given the the combination of athleticism,
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: size and frame at the wide receiver room.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: But again it's going to be on Joe Brady to
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: maximize that extra.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Chrispy says, this wide receiver does not this wide receiver
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: group does not have a clear number one, so it's
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: going to be a committee.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: I agree. Oh, I gotta stop. Just Tippy Canoe, thank
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: you very much for being here.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: As I mentioned earlier and having a baller name. It's
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: one of my favorites, if not my favorite, straight up
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: and think of the super chat, I really appreciate it.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Comment is I truly believe if you take the bookends
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: of our tight ends and our O line, it's one
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: of the best in the league. We will be able
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: to dictate a lot upfront. I want to see this
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: online play together. But I thought the Bills had a
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: top ten grouping last year overall, If o Cyrus Torreans
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: takes a jump in his game, if Spencer Brown can
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: improve a little on what he was last year, man, yeah,
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: having Dion Dawkins, Spencer Brown, Osirius Torrance, I think Edwards
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: is much better than people give him credit for. I
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: think you do have a solid grouping up front, especially
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: in terms of what you can do schematically. You can
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: run the ball, you can pass the ball, you can
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: run zone, you can run gap schemes. You're not running
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: a ton of power encounter because you don't have the
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: most mobile guards, but you do have extremely mobile and
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: athletic tackles, which is why they run dart and you
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: know those tackle polls and tackle traps with Brown and
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Dawkins and even some of the depth I like as well.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: And then yeah, if you factor in Kincaid and Knox
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: and Quinton Morris, which we're going to talk about in.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: A bit, I think this pretty fair statement. Thank you
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: again for the super chat. I appreciate it.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Like this comment here from Lauren saying, really need Kinkaid
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: to take a big step forward, especially as a tight
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: end wide receiver, hybrid type of player to help out
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: the wide receiver corps. Absolutely like for me, wide receiver
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: one is Dalton Kinkaid. I know he's not a wide
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: receiver obviously, but he's wide receiver one to be the
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: tip of the spear or the foundation of the passing
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: game from a weapon standpoint, is Dalton Kinkaid for the
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills and as a crossing says, scheme will be everything.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, oh Mega Bob saying.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Key on Coleman.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Less yards but lots of tds. I see him as
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: a forty catch, four hundred yard eight touchdown guy this year.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: I can see something like that happening him being used
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: in red zone packages and having kind of schemed up
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: looks to lean into the skill set that he has
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: already while he develops the refining or the refinement aspects
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: and the more technical aspects of being a receiver in
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: the league.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: I like that. I like that.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Bump bump.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: What are some other thoughts?
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, cool, I just wanted to make sure I grabbed
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: everything extra. Chrispy says, So the strength of our offense
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: will come from the tight ends and running backs. I
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: think if you, I think the strength of the offense
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: comes from a good run game and how the offense
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: schematically branches off from there. And I want to be
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: careful in saying that because I don't want people to
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: think this is gonna be a run first team where
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: they run it's a sixty to forty run to pass ratio.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: But the run game is going to matter a lot,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: the running back run game and the Josh Allen run game.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: That's where everything starts. Having the size, the combination of
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: size and athleticism that you have at wide receiver and
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: tight end screams you're going to run the football and
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: put defenses into a bind, and then use those same
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: personnel groupings that you use to go with reduced formational
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: with and run it down someone's throat, and then use
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: that same grouping to go spread and throw it all
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: over them because you have the athleticism in addition to
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: having the size and frame and mashing ability. Basically, the
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: strength of the Bills offense in theory, should come from
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: eleven and twelve personnel and being able to access more
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: of the play calling menu without having to turn the page.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is you can be
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: an eleven personnel, which is one one, you know, one
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: running back, one tight end, three wide receivers, and you
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: can go spread or you can go condensed and you
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: can run it down someone's throat, you can pass the ball,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: you can do anything you really want. And then you
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: can be in twelve and you can do the exact
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: same thing. So defenses can't look from the box and
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: be like, oh, they're in twelve. Cool, they're probably gonna
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: run it.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: Let's do this.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: The Bills can really kind of do whatever they want
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: on a twelve end out of eleven because of the
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: combination of size and.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: Athleticism that they have at that spot. Yeah, that's why
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: I said it. R j R.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Just says Casey and Baltimore literally had everything else except
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: for wide receiver. The Bills really don't have a good
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: overall team like that. That's why I said, like, if
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: you want to look at the silver lining and ignore
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: all the context, sure you can kind of lead into that.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: Jim Jack says, do you know how we rank in
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  Speaker 1: the waiver wire? Yes, it's the same as the draft order,
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  Speaker 1: So the Bills are. I forget what the Bills had
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  Speaker 1: because they traded out twice on Draft night in the
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  Speaker 1: first round. But whatever the first round draft order is,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: is what the waiver wire order is. Yeah, so Johnson's
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  Speaker 1: I thought heard being say mid to late twenties. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: so whatever they were twenty five, twenty six, something like that, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: Josh's aunt. Who is your wide receiver difference maker? Oh,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: if he's healthy, Curtis Samuel, just because I think of
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  Speaker 1: how he can be used in the mismatches. He can
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  Speaker 1: be kind of createdmm got a super chat. Thank you
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: very much for being here, your boy, let us and
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: for the super chat, he says, twenty twenty four. Dalton
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  Speaker 1: Kincaid needs to be twenty nineteen Sowol Peasley. Yeah, Kinkaid.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: I think he actually needs to be more than that.
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  Speaker 1: I think Kincaid needs to be the mismatch creator underneath
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: and in the intermediate. He needs to be the security
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: blanket for Allen. He needs to be that leverage option
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: read type of guy in the slot. But he also
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: needs to be a ball winner. He also needs to
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: be like a deep intermediate and down the field threat.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: You need to be able to get him mismatched on
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: safeties and being able to run him over, you know,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: on deep overs like white Cross type stuff, or having
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: him run a corner route and have him get like
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: seventeen to twenty five yard chunk plays. He needs to
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: be a lot Dalton Kinkaid very much needs to be
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: kind of like the prince that was promised when it
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: comes to the pass catching game. Again, I know he's
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: not a wide receiver, but he needs to function like
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver one this year and that's going to unlock
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  Speaker 1: so much of this offense. If he isn't kind of
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: the prince that was promised, then it's gonna be kind
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: of tough. And yeah, as you follow appearances, Cold hit
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of his work in the intermediate. Yep, you
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: need kink to be that guy. You need Kinkaid beating
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: nickel corn and apex dudes who he has size on.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: You need him to beat them with his size, and
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: then if he's getting matched up on linebackers or safeties,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: he needs to beat them with his athleticism and his
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: route running. You need him to be a constant mismatch
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: in the slot as a quasi X receiver and number
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: one outside like. You need to be able to use
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: him in a variety of ways in line, offline hipped
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: off of Dawson Knox play action, non play action, just
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: he needs to be able to kind of do it
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  Speaker 1: all in a multitude of fashions and perform at a
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: high level for this offense really to kind of succeed.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Jamal says, I want to see some deep shots downfield
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: when the opportunity comes up. Which wide receiver is that guy,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel And this is the answer everybody's probably gonna hate.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: And MVS. MVS is the deep threat on this roster.
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  Speaker 1: And I think again, if you can get the right mismatch,
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  Speaker 1: I think Kinkaid can be a deep shot down field
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: kind of guy relatively relatively speaking, depending on how deep
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: you're looking. But if it's purely receiver, for me, it's
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: to Samuel and it's MBS, and that's kind of where
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: we're at at that spot. And I know Curtis Samuel's fast,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: but he's not a pure burner, like He's not just
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: a vertical downfield type of dude.
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  Speaker 2: That's not really his game. Even though he is. He
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: does have a good time speed from a forty perspective.
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  Speaker 1: Lauren A plus as always, Lauren says d all Ten
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: Kincaid well done. She took the Dalton and adding an
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  Speaker 1: extra l Well done also goes back to Bean's love.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: This also fits in with beans love of like double
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: letters and stuff, kind of going back to the two
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  Speaker 1: Hill aspects. So well done basically do it all to Kinkaid.
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  Speaker 2: I like it. That's very good. That's very good. Yeah.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: So again, I think a lot of this wide receiver
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: room depends schematically on what Joe Brady can do.
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  Speaker 2: On paper.
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  Speaker 1: As it stands, I think it's more of like a
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: group that belongs on a wildcard team than it does
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: even necessarily a division winner or a conference winner or
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl type of threat. Excellent comment here from
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: Josh Yes, I mentioned this all the time that I
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: forget about kind of saying it because it's a given
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: for me, Joshays, Kincaid's improvement and blocking will be the
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  Speaker 1: key to having a true mismatch offense.
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  Speaker 2: That's it for the wide receivers and the tight ends.
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  Speaker 1: So much of so much of this offense is going
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: to be dependent upon that mismatch creation for the combination
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: of size, frame and athleticism you have with mccollins, Kean Coleman, Dalton, Kinkaid,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Dawson Knox. Honestly, even Curtis Samuel, who's a good blocker
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: for his position. Shakir came on as a blocker, but
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: with Coleman and specifically with mac Collins and Kinkaid and
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: Knox their value as a versatile dual threat tight end.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: The duel has to be there, so you have to
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: be able to function as a blocker and as a
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  Speaker 1: pass catcher in order to win. And if someone wants
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: to say, well, Travis Kelcey is not really a great blocker.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: Fair he does give effort, or he especially did early on,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: but then his pass catching dials are turned up to
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: ten in every way, shape and form that it doesn't
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: matter if he can't block at this point or doesn't
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: even want to. With this point, he's a good at
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: reading coverage and understanding a defense's rules and knowing how
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: to exploit them and attack them. That he's kind of
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: in his own tier. But yes, exactly your point, Josh
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Well said, like Kincaid's improvement in blocking will be I
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's the key, but it'll be a
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: significant key to having a true mismatch offense. Because again
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: it's that idea of Kincaid's in the game. If he
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: can block, a nickel corner, a safety, a linebacker. If
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: he can wash down an edge and do all the
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: pass catching receiving stuff, that's a huge weapon because now
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: he's factoring into the run and the pass, he's factoring
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: into the personnel decisions a defense is making, and then
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: you're leaning into a whole different grouping of mismatch creations.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: So very well said, got another super chat. Thank you
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: very much for being here, Richie, and thank you very
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: much for the super chat.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Richie says Kincaid.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: Will and will Is in all caps have a breakout year.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: He's our Kelsey. I second this notion to a decent degree.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: I think at the end of the year the conversation
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: from a national perspective will be dalton kin kid has
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: kind of taken that step into the upper echelon of
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: tight ends, into the upper echelon of weapons and kind
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: of mismatch creators. Again, I think he's been I think
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: it will be the number one passing option in this
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: offense in terms of target share, in terms of probably
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: raw stats, maybe even advanced metrics. Everything is gonna really
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: funnel through him. From a success standpoint, it's gonna matter
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: a lot for this offense. Adam's comment here saying, welcome
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: to the Sean McVay Bills. Hey, I did an episode
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: earlier this offseason, do an entire film breakdown episode of
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: disguise coverage where I spoke about specific offenses the Bills
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: can and should borrow from. And Sean McVay in the
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: Rams last year was one of them. It was the
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: mcveag rams, Ben Johnson's Lions, and then.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: Uh, well no, what did I just say?
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, Sean mcvay's Rams, Ben Johnson's Lions, and then
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: Bobby Slow ex Houston Texans, and a lot of its
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: stemming from condensed formations they use reduced form ma with
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: marrying the run in the past, and then how they
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: take advantage of their bigger bodied wide receivers and using
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: that size frame athleticism combination.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very fair, very fair sticking into.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: This kind of weapons group, go to the tight ends.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: I don't think too much to write home here, Kinkaid
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: Knox know about it. I think this is a group
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: that can win you division. I like Dawson Knox a
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: lot as a two. I still don't have the utmost
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: faith in him in catching passes when they matter most.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: He seems to just still have the drop seas not
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: from a volume standpoint like he used to, but just
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: kind of in those high leverage or profile moments. But
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: I really like Knox as a number two in terms
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: of what he can be as a mismatch guy, athleticism, speed,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: He's gotten better each year as a blocker. Kin Kate,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: I think is sweet. I think you have a really
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: good one too. We've talked about Kinkaid a bunch here already.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: Quintin Morris is the interesting one. So he made the
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: roster here is tight end three, which I hope means
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: that he's gonna be able to play through the shoulder
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: injury that he has. I still wonder if Quintin Morris
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: gets an IR designation at some point, and he made
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: this initial fifty three, and there's gonna be some gamesmanship
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: when we go forward here with Quinton Morris. But I
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: really like quint Morris as a tight end three. I
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: talked about him on the show last week. His ability
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: to function as a pass catcher and as a blocker
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: in the run game is super valuable for this team.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: And as a tight end three like you can put
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: him in and have him do some inline stuff, some
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: offline stuff. Again, he could function in the past game
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: in a variety of ways. He's not the athlete with
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: the upside that Kinkaid has, and he's not a pure
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: maller as a blocker, but he's got a good all
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: a round skill set, and he gives you special teams
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: value as well. But he's good in the run game.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: He's good enough in the run game as a blocker,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: good enough in the pass game as a receiver and
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: pass catcher.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: So I really like this tight end grouping.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: I think this is a group that you can win
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: a division title with, and if Knox is a little
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: more consistent in big moments, I think this is a
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: good enough group to get you a conference championship as well.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: So I think the strength again of this offense right
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: now kind of it all funnels up to Joe Brady
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: maximizing everything schematically. So much of the success of this
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: offense is going to be schematic dependent this year than
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: it has been in years past. But I really do
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: think the strength of this offense, going back to one
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: of those comments earlier, is the combination of the offensive line,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: running backs, and tight end room, and then the wide
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: receiver room by extension because of some of the sizes
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: and body types and athletic combos merging and blending with
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: the tight end grouping. But I really do think that
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: the strength of this team lies in the offensive line,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: running back room and tight end room and kind of
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: putting those pieces together. Tom says, if the wide receiver
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: group can just be average and survive the regular season
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: without significant injuries, then that will be sufficient to get
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: to the playoffs.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: I agree, I agree, I agree.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: Next position group, we talked about it a little bit already.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: Offensive line the Bills kept.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: That's what I thought.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: The Bills kept nine offensive lineman dand Spencer Brown, Connor
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: McGovern of Cyrus Torrance, David Edwards, and then Ryan Vandermark,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: Alec Anderson, Cedric van Prant, Granger, and Tyland Grabil. Nice
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: to see what Tyland Grabil was able to do. I
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: broke down some of his film against Carolina in the.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: Third game of the preseason.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: Really good snatch trap, starting to put some of the
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: technical pieces together. I thought he looked rough against the
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: Bears in Week one in terms of pass protection, but
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: he improved overall against Pittsburgh in the run and in
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: terms of pass protection.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: And then I thought he improved further against Carolina.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: Just some of those Aaron Cromer teachings and staples, especially
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: from his hand usage perspective, started to take hold with
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: each passing game, which was nice to see. And then
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: you're pairing that with the athleticism, which was nice. I
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: thought he was pretty close to a roster locke given
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: that improvement, and given his athleticism and the depth need
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: at that spot. So good to see him make the
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: roster and the depth kind of improved. I thought as
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: the preseason went on, I thought Ryan vandermart looked good
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: at both tackle spots. I thought Alec Anderson looked good
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: at center and guard and he gives you guard center
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: flex at every spot on the interior. And then Cedric
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: van pering Granger SVPG, I thought he improved each game.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: I thought he looked good really right from the jump.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: Granted a lot of his reps this preseason were coming
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: against the threes and fours, but he got some rep
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: or got some burn against the ones against Carolina because
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: you know, Will Clapp was out and then they put
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: Anderson in Guarden SVPG at center. But I thought he'd
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: looked good from an athleticis standpoint, climbing to the second level,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: the intelligence, the support, the awareness. Really nice to see
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: him kind of step up there. I thought Lyle Collins
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: would make this squad. I tweeted I talked about it
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: last week, and then I tweeted it earlier this week.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: I didn't know if his lack of positional flexibility would
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: hurt him in making this roster.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: And it did.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: He's pretty much guard only at this point in his career,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: but I thought he played a good enough guard that
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: he would be the first guard up for or me
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: on this squad if something was to happen to Edwards
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: or Torrants.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: But you know, they cut him. They're rolling with nine
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: right now at this stage.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: And then also just for notes, we talked about it earlier,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: Travis Clayton put on IR and then Tommy Doyle is
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: on IR as well. But I think that's a really
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: solid group and offensive line. I think that's a group
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: that you can win in division title with and compete
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: for a conference championship with.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: Dion Dawkins.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's he's it's weird, like I don't
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: think he gets the respect he deserves, but I also
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: feel like he gets too much acclaim at times. But
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: he's big, he's athletic, he's better technically than he gets
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: credit for. I think he's a very, very very solid
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: left tackle. Edwards is better at guard than he gets
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: credit for. We'll see what McGovern is at center, but
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: I have faith. I'm very interested to see what year
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: two of osirus Torrance looks like, and then I'm interested
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: to see what happens with Spencer Brown. I like the
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: improvement he had last year. I think everyone did.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: He add more consistency to his game.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: We didn't see as much of those valleys when we
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: saw the peaks and valleys like we had in previous years.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think he had is great of the year
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: last year as people make it seem to be. He
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: had a lot of help from having a tight end
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: lined up next to him or having the running back
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: chip out of the backfield being on his side, so
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: he got help at times more often than people recognize
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: or acknowledge. But he's still had a good year. He's
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: extremely athletic. He's one of the best run black run
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: blocking tackles honestly in the NFL. Because the athleticism and
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: the physicality that he has. He's a huge piece of
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: why the Bills were able to lean into their tackle
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: wrap stuff with Dart and the tackle trap and tackle
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: poll game because it's not just Dawkins, it's Spencer Brown
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: as well, and they leaned into that because of the
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: athleticism they have at both those spots. I think this
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: is a combination between the starters and the backups that
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: gives you some versatility, some depth, some youth, some experience.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: I like how this offensive line is shaped up. I
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: was very worried about what they were week one against Chicago.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: They improved each game. A lot of that obviously goes
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: to Aaron Kromer, who's one of the best offensive line
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: coaches in the NFL.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: So big shout out to mister Aaron Cromer.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: There nice one here from Cameron saying nationally underrated but
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: locally overrated with Dion.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: I like the way that we put that there. Lawrence
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: has equipment team.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Let out a deep breath, and they learned Van prayk
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: Granger made the team and they'd have to put all
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: those letters on the jersey each week. Yeah, I bet
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: they had a prayer circle going on or just being like,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: don't make the team, don't make the team, and then
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: they saw it and they probably just all cried in
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: the locker room. No, there have to stitch that name
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: plate on and those letters week after week after week.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm kind of excited to see what he
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: can become with this whole line rounds into again. I
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: think you have an offensive line similar to what you
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: had last year that gives you versatility in the run game.
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  Speaker 1: You can run zone, you can run gap or man schemes.
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  Speaker 1: They give you enough in pass pro. Just a really good,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: well rounded overall offensive line. I don't think they have
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  Speaker 1: a stud in the group right now. I don't think
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: you're looking at the Bills offensive line and saying they have,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: you know, even just one All Pro candidate, although Dion
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: Dawkins is a good player, like we talked about.
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  Speaker 2: But I just think they're a steady group.
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  Speaker 1: I think everybody on the offensive line is like a
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  Speaker 1: B to an A minus or a B to a
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  Speaker 1: B plus, or you have a whole bunch of dudes
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the year who could all be
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  Speaker 1: B pluses, And I think that's tremendous. So I'm very
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: happy with the offensive line grouping, and I like some
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: of the depth that they got. Let's move to the
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much for that. Let's move to the
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  Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. We'll start with Edge.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: Talked about it a little.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised that Casey two Hill made this roster, but
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: the rest of the names at EDGE, I am not
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: surprised at. This is a group that I literally all
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: five who made it. And I'm not patting myself on
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: the back because I don't think it's anything revelatory.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: This is the group that I called that would make it.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: Greg Russo, Ajpanessa Von Miller, Duan Smooth, and Javon Solomon.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: Solomon was a really nice piece like this pops here
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: saying Solomon is the most improved player since he started
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: training camp.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: He's gonna ball out. Yeah.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: I want to see him be able to continue to
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: develop an inside move or inside moves, or be able
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: to transition and read the set angle and the set
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: line of offensive tackles and being able to determine if
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: he needs to continue to push to that outside or
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: if he needs to stop and kind of cut back
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: inside and have an inside move, or even if he
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: can just go more speed to power and go through dudes.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: We talked about it after the Chicago game, Solomon going
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: with that patented move where he flashes that inside hand
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: to get an offensive tackle to throw their hands so
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: that he can dip and bend underneath and then rip
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: and flatten to the QB. That move doesn't work as
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: much in the NFL as did in college because tackles
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: are a different breed when it comes to length and
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: strength and technique, So he needs to develop more just
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: in terms of a secondary and third move when it
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: comes to rushing off the edge.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: But I was impressed with his ability to play the run.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: The physicality, the tenacity isn't too surprising. One of the
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: things I liked the bottom that I mentioned in watching
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: his Troy tape earlier this offseason was that he plays
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: like a veloci raptor just violence, intensity, tenacity off the
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: edge and everything that he does. He needs again to
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: develop more moves to his move set coming off the
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: edge as a pass rusher. But not surprised to see
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: Slomon make this team. Not again, not surprised to see
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: any of them. We'll see who functions as edge two
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: or edge three. When it comes to von Miller and
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: AJM Vanessa, We'll see how much of a closer role
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: von Miller has. Smooth I thought was a bit underwhelming
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: this preseason as a run defender setting the edge as
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: a spiker on two man games, the Bills are bad
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: just in general with two man games this preseason. It
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: was clunky, it was not precise, and I don't really
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: remember any of them working. It was kind of underwhelming,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: But I like this grouping. We'll see what happens with
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: Casey two Hill if he's actually gonna make the squad
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: or if he's the first man out as part of
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: some plan move tomorrow or going forward. But overall, I
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: think the grouping is fine in terms of how good
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: they are and what they can be. It's really going
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: to depend on who takes a jump. I think right
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: now this is a grouping at edge that is good
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: enough to win you a division title. I don't think
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: it's a grouping good enough to win you a conference
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: championship or get you to a super Bowl unless somebody
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: makes a jump.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: If von Miller is closer to the old von Miller,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: then he is further away. That changes.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: If aj Apanessa can take the efficiency numbers that he
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: had last year and have that same level of production
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: with more volume, it changes this group. If Greg Russeau
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: can take a jump as a pass rusher and be
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: more of that guy we saw against Pittsburgh, it changes
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: the notion of this grouping. Or if Smoot can be
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: more of an Edge three or Edge two, or if
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: Javon Solomon is this nasty you know rookie who can
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: pile the double digit sacks or a good amount of
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: pressure or something like that. You need a needle mover,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: somebody who can show you something that they have not
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: shown right now.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: I think Groot is the best chance. A lot of
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: that has been tied to hisself.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: He's just getting, you know, banged up, on his wheels
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: the last couple of years, ankle and foot stuff the
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: past couple of years. But if he can be more
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: of that Pittsburgh group that we saw in week two
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: of this preseason, it changes the notion of this grouping.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: I like the depth that the Bills have at edge
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: and the combination of skill sets that they have there.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: I worry about the top end pass rush production at
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: the edge grouping. So if somebody can answer that call,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: it could be group taking a jump. It could be
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: a Japanessa, it could be Von Miller, it could be anyone.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: But I think someone needs to answer that call in
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: order to make me feel like this group is good
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: enough to win a conference championship.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: I think they're good enough to win a division. I
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: don't think they're good enough to win a conference championship
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: as of right now. Let me go so some comments.
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  Speaker 1: Time says, I'll sign up for cover one to one
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  Speaker 1: pass if you can explain how two hill makes any sense.
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  Speaker 2: All right, So he's a high motor guy, good energy
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  Speaker 2: who plays the run. That's it. I think what makes
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  Speaker 2: the most sense is he might.
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  Speaker 1: Be the first man out if they make another roster move,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: or they're looking at Javon Solomon to be more of
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: a special teams kind of guy pass rusher hunter than
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: they are trying to use him to work in against
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: the run. Because here's the thing too, and this is
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: this is a less than ideal timeline that people don't
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: want to talk about, kind of like a dark timeline.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: But if Ajat Vanessa was kind of like a flash
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: in the pan last year, and if von Miller is
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: not back to isn't closer to prime or isn't closer
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: to von Miller of a couple of years ago. You
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: have questions at edge two and edge three. You also
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: have Duan Smooth who's about to be two years not
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: even full two years removed from an Achilles tear. And
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: then you have Javon Solomon, who's a rookie. I understand
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: the notion if casey two Will is actually on this squad.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: I somewhat understand the notion of it, because he gives
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: you a high floor against the run, and there is
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: value in that. The pass rush upside is almost non existent,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: but he's a known quantity against the run and can
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: kind of stabilize things based on some of the dark
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: timeline options that everybody ahead of him. I don't think
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: that's gonna make you feel better, but I think that's
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: the plan there, right. He just high motor energy guy,
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: sets the edge against the run, allows your dudes behind
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: him to hunt and other guys to make plays. Right Like,
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: he's gonna do his job. It's not a sexy job.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: It's not a high ceiling or a high upside job,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: but that's it. So it's either that for me, it's
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: an insurance option and a known quantity because they think
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: there's questions above him, or he's gonna get cut or
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: released a tomorrow or in the coming days as they
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: bring in somebody else or make some other moves.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: Because there's some more game. It has been ship kind
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: of coming. We'll see.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: Lauren says, Uh at time, I cracked the two hill
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: case earlier. B loves players with double letter names, and
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: two hills a double double with the only explanation two
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: o's and two l's.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: And you know two of those double letters are vowels.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: So I think there's probably extra points if we're if
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: we're counting this right, if I'm doing this.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: Right, Lauren, I imagine it. You know, that might be
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: worth extra points. Let's see.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: Jamal says, Duane Carter will makes some plays this year.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: I hope he does. We're gonna talk about defensive tackle next.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: Ah Pop says, and I almost bought dinosaur chicken nuggets
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  Speaker 1: on sale at BJ's just because.
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  Speaker 2: You gave the props. That's right, that's right.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about dino chicken nuggets with Kendall a couple
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: of weeks ago.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. There's some things to just make you feel
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  Speaker 2: warm and fuzzy on the inside.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: This is what you need to be oh, Nicholas says
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: the Bills need to put in a claim for seeing
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: the safety just cut by the Vikings. Yeah, he's talking
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: about Lewis scene uh safety from Georgia from a couple
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: of years ago, toward his acl in the preseason last
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: year with Minnesota suffered like its season ending kind of
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: gruesomess gruesome ish injury last year, or maybe in his
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: rookie yar a couple of years ago. It's kind of
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: faded by the wayside. I noticed that he got cut today.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he plays like Georgia Lewis seen like,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent down for it. I just don't
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: think he's gonna be that guy, And I don't know
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: how he kind of fits into the room, but I
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: thought something very similar. I haven't watched him play with
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: Minnesota this preseason, so I can't speak to who he
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: is now. But if he's the Georgia version that he
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: was in college, I'd take it. Frank says, I come
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  Speaker 1: analysis and football analysis on the show. That is who
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  Speaker 1: month in and month out based on whatever holiday is
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, but so kind of wrap it
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: up on the edge. Grouping.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: I think it's as they stand right now. I think
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: it's a grouping good enough to win a division title.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's a grouping good enough to get
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: you to a super Bowl.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: But that can change. If somebody takes a jump, it
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: could be grouped.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: It could be bond, it could be a Panessa, it
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: could be Solomon, it could be smooth, it could be
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: somebody like it just had. Somebody needs to influence the
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: needle when it comes to the top end pass rush production, or.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: Increase how good the depth is at this group. It's
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: got to be something. Move on to the next position.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: Grouping defensive tackle, pretty cut and dry. Here only four
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: at Oliver Daikwon Jones, Austin Johnson, Dwayne Carter. I don't
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: think any of this was really too surprising for anyone.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: I thought this was oh nice pole from Cameron saying
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: the scene was a Top thirty visit when he came
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  Speaker 1: out from Georgia.
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  Speaker 2: Nice pole. I did not know and or remember that
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: well done, Cameron. I liked that.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty cut and drive. With the defensive tackle grouping,
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: I thought Austin Johnson played well. I thought it was
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: interesting that it looked like he slimmed down this year
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: and they had him playing some three tech. I thought
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: it was interesting that Dwayne Carter was playing some one tech.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: Pops here saying Oliver and Jones together our wrecking crew.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: I think this is this group is really strong of
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: the starters. I know at Oliver kind of doesn't show
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: up in big games in the playoffs based on what
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: happened against Cincinnati two years ago in the Kansas City
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: last year, I don't think the Cincinnati one was on
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: him as much as the Kansas City one was, where
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: he just got a race by Tony for pretty much
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: the entirety of the game. But I like it Oliver
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: a lot. I liked Kwon Jones a lot. I think
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: that's such a really good strong combo at defensive tackle.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: As your starters, I think Austin Johnson is fine as
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: a three or as a four. I do have questions
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: about Dwayne Carter, just what can he be against the run.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: My biggest thing with him in college was his inability
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: or his inconsistency. I should say in taking on double teams.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: He would get blown off the ball when it came
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: to doubles. Even sometimes just against the run, you know,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: versus base blocks, he would kind of get you know,
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: sealed and turned. But really against double teams that worries
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: me a bit. Showed some improvement a little bit this year.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: We watched him drop the knee a couple times in
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: the preseason, and I think he's another high effort guy,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: just a little more skill. You know, he will work
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: across alignment's face to not get reached and be able
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: to stay in his gap. Didn't show a lot of
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: pass rush pop this preseason, which worried me a little bit.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: I also thought he looked bigger with the Bills than
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: he did at Duke, and kind of the opposite of
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: Austin Johnson. I feel like Austin Johnson slimmed down and
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: cut down a little bit, and I think Dwayne Carter
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: added more mass then. I don't know if that's affecting
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: his burst and his juice and overall penetration ability, but
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: I thought Carter did enough to lock down a top
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: four spot, which you really want to see, considering he
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: was a Day two pick this year when the Bills
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: took him in the third round. I don't love the
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: preseason that Carter had, but I think it was fine.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: He's definitely one to watch because I do think the
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: Bills need contributions from everyone on the defensive line, starters
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: and depth alike. Again, I think this defensive line is
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: very much going to be a grouping that wins because
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: you have wave after wave of like B minus to
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: B plus guys or B to B plus type of
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: dudes and just kind of wear offensive linemen down by
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: attrition where you can just have dudes comeing in in
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: the third and fourth quarter who are one hundred percent
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: and can go one hundred miles an hour for every
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: single snap there on.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: The field, and it's just wave after wave of dudes.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: So I think Carter is important, and I think Austin
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: Johnson's important as well. I think this group is good
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: enough to win you a division title, similar to the
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: defensive tackle or the DA edge grouping. I should say,
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know right now if this group is good
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: enough to win you a conference championship. I again, I
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: really love Daikwon Jones. I really like Ed Oliver, I
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: just have questions about the depth. I don't know how
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: functional and productive the combination of Johnson and Carter will be,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: or what they will be individually. I think it's a
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: good grouping. I think it's a good foursome inside, but
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: that top end production. I just wonder when you take
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: out Oliver, when you take out Daikwon Jones, how much
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: of a drop off is there to Austin Johnson to Carter.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: I have more faith in Johnson than I do Carter
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: at this point in time.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: But we'll see.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: But again, that's why I kind of functions in. I
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: think this is a grouping you can win a division
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: title with. I don't think this grouping right now that
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: you are winning a conference championship with. Let's go to
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: the linebacker position. As we mentioned, Matt Malono put on
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: the IR but designated to return, which I guess is
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: good news if anybody was worried that he was going
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: to be out for the entirety of the year.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: He's not. Like we talked about earlier.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: Him and Darrenton Evans both being placed on IR, both
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: with a designated to return tag, means the Bills are
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: counting on them to return and come to the roster
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: because you only get eight and them designated both of
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: them means they've already used up two of the eight
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: right now, So good news. That means Milana was coming back.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: Linebacker grouping Terrell Bernard Dorrian Williams, Nicholas Moreau, Baal inspector
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: ed fond Ulfocio, and Joe Andresen obviously highlighted by Buffalo
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: Joe aka Young Dreazy, who someone coined earlier in the
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: episode really good to see him. Buffalo Kid went to Lancaster,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: ended up going to UB for a year, kind of
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: just gets a tryout opportunity basically for the Bills when
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: they do the local college day thing. Is the last
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: dude they signed as a UDFA makes the squad really
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: cool story good for him. I think he offers legitimate
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: special teams value because of his speed, his burst, and
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: his ability to kind of shed blocks in space and
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: make plays in space. I think he needs work in
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: coverage in terms of play recognition and in terms of
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: processing route distributions, especially against play action. But I'm not
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: surprised that he made the roster. I kind of figured
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: he would once. Dion Jones got cut last night and
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: they announced that. So good for Joe Andreeson. This grouping
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: I think is really interesting. I really like the combination
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: of Trubbernard and Matt Milano. I don't love any other combination.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: If I had to start two linebackers right now with
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: Matt Malono being out, if everybody's healthy, I'm starting Moreau
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: and Bernard.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: I want to say Dorian Williams.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: I really really, really really really do, But I just
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: still think there's gaps and the processing and play recognition.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: The athleticism is there, the length is there, the juice
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: is there, the impact at the tackle point is there.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: He's not a bad blitzer. I think he improved versus
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: the run. But I still think there's just gaps and
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: coverage that worry me a little bit overall, just even
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: in spots drop stuff, let alone the match coverage stuff
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: that we're gonna see in the rules based coverage stuff
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: that we'll see once the regular season kicks off. But
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: I'm okay if it's Dourane and Bernard, I still think
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: I would prefer Moreau and Bernard. Even though we haven't
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: seen Nicholas Moreau play a snap in a Bill's uniform yet,
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: which I guess is really saying.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: A lot for me potentially or for Dorry Williams.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: I think with Milano being hurt, I think this is
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: a grouping that can compete for a wildcard spot. If
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: it's Milano and Bernard, this grouping is good enough to
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: win your Super Bowl. Milano is a legitimate All Pro,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: and I think Terrell Bernard is on an upwards trajectory
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: towards being a very, very very good linebacker in the NFL.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: I do still think there are some words for Bernard.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: You know, if he does not win with his processing
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: and anticipation and he gets latched onto, he's getting chucked
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: out of the club because he is a smaller type
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: of linebacker. But he's good against coverage. He's good shooting
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: gaps with his trigger and his processing. He's a good
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: blitzer high functional football IQ. Again, we talked about it earlier,
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: him coming from Baylor and all their you know, the
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: NFL style defense they play, and then Dave A. Randa's
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: scheme at Baylor and how well that meshes with Sean
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: McDermott scheme with the Bills. He was a good fit
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: for this team when they brought him in I think again,
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: a combo Bernard and Milano is an absolute tremendous combination.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: That's a Super Bowl winning linebacker grouping.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: With Milano being down.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: I see it as a grouping that's still good enough
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: to win you a wildcard spot. But even then, I
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: think it's a little worrisome. YEA, I'm just I think
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: I'm more down on Dorian Williams maybe than other people are.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: I see a lot of love for him in the space,
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: and I don't know, maybe if maybe I'm off base
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: versus the consensus.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: But I am.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: I have a little trepidation when it comes to this
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: linebacker grouping without Milano. I think McDermott and Babbage can
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: mitigate things a little bit, but I worry about how
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: they feel that. And again, if I had to right now,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: if the bills are opening up tomorrow and everybody's healthy
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: at linebacker aside from Milano, I am going with Nicholas Morrell,
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: which is probably not a sexy answer for a lot
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: of people in the chat. What else you THEO SHO
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: is gonna get special teams work, and Reason's gonna get
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: special teams work. Bayland Spector is interesting him making the team,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: even though he's injured all the time. I guess the
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: coaching staff still believes in him. I think he could
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: be a potential candidate to, you know, be cut, depending
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: on what happens, if there's somebody they really want to
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: go after and get h James saying, who starts with
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: the rap? We're gonna talk about that when we get
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: the safeties.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: I like that.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: Uh sweep SAPs or sweep swap. Sweep sap.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: Yikes, it's I'm a final part sweep swap says Hey, Anthony,
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: what do you think about getting Noah Brown and cutting MBS?
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: I like it a lot. I love Noah Brown. I
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: did a piece on him. I actually you know what
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: I want.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: I hate to like plug it, but I dove into
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: this a bunch at the beginning of the episode. So
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: if you want when it's done, go back watch it
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: at the beginning. Talked about it as one of my
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: wants early in this episode. Or he can wait till
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: the episode's done. I'll time stamp it and then put
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: it through. But long story short, I really like Noel Brown.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: I would take him over MBS and a heartbeat right now.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: And I think he's more than just a wide receiver
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: five for this team based on what I think their
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: schematic identity will be and what his skill set is
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: and how all of those things fit together and coalesce
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: into one.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: Bam. What else?
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: All right? Cool?
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: Let's move on to the cornerback grouping so mentioned it earlier.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: Dak Onon Hardy gets cut, which was a bit of
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: a surprise I think to most UH Bills fans based
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: off of the preseason that he had. The official corner
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: room as it stands right now outside corners first Rasul Douglas,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: Christian Benford, Kyer, Elam, JaMarcus Ingram, and then Brandon Codrington
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: who they traded for from the New York Jets today,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: but he's pretty much a returner only punt return, kick return.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: I don't see him seeing any real cornerback snaps. And then,
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: of course you've got all pro corner Taron Johnson there.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: So the overall corner room is Rasul Douglas, Benford, Kyrie Elam,
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: JaMarcus Ingram, Brandon Condriton, and Taron Johnson. I think this
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: is a group that you can win a super Bowl with.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: Taron Johnson's an all pro. I think Christian Benford is
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: an ascending player. He's I think he's still got an
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: upwards trajectory. Rasseull Douglas played like a legitimate CB one
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: last year when he came over from Green Bay. The
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: starting grouping I think is strong at corner Benford, Tarn
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: and Russell Douglas. I think they're all good against the run.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: They can function in man, they can function and zone.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: They can play match or rules based coverages. They can
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: get impressed and legitimately jam you. They can play press bail,
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: they can mirror. I'm excited for what that grouping is
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: at the top end. I've been happy with what Kyrie
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: Elam has been in training camp and in the preseason,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: and JaMarcus Ingram as well. I think what's nice about
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: Ingram and I think this may potentially hurt day Kwon Hardy.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: I think day Kwon Hardy offered the Bills inside out
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: side versatility in terms of playing in the slot and
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: then playing outside corner. JaMarcus Ingram also does that, and
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: I think he does it with a little more physicality
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: and a little more size than Hardy does. So how
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: good Ingram has been outside this preseason was a good
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: surprise for me. I wasn't expecting that level of technique
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: in addition to the physicality. So I think his success
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: and that inside outside versatility that he provides also kind
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: of hurt Daikwon Hardy being there.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: But I still thought Hardy was going to.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: Make it again, like we talked about earlier, I think
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: the you know, the push that came or when push
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: came to shove Sean McDermott said it, I forget when,
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: but you know, Dai Kwon Hardy's spot on this team
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: was going to be as a punt returner, and I
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: think maybe some of his decision making didn't make Sean
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: McDermott feel warm and fuzzy. And even though his corner
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: play was strong on the outside and again I don't
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: think his return decisions were terrible. I think that was
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: kind of, you know, the straw that broke the Hanil's
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: back a little bit when it came to then again,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: I think he was going to be corner five on
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: the outside. You're gonna sit there and you're gonna look
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: at you know, Douglas and Benford and Kye and Ingram.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: Hardy was going to be behind Ingram or at most
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: maybe he's pushing Ingram, so maybe he's corner four. When
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: it comes to the slot, I think cam Lewis is
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: the backup slot to Taron Johnson, So Hardy at best
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: was going to be, you know, nickel three.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: But I think maybe.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: JaMarcus Ingram is nickel three, which is why then also
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: contributed to Dak one Hardy potentially being cut. So again
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: I'm disappointed that Hardy got cut. I hope he makes
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: the practice squad and comes back through and clears waivers.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: So we'll see with that. But overall, I think this
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: is a a good group.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: I think this is a group that can win you
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. With the starters, we'll see what they are.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: From a depth perspective, We'll see corners always tend to
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: get banged up, so at some point Kyri Eelam is
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: going to see real snaps, JaMarcus Ingram is going to
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: see real snaps. Certain point, your depth is going to
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: be tested. So I hope that depth depth is legitimate.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: I hope the consistency that we saw from Kyrie Elam
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: and how he's kind of cleaned up his game this
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: offseason in camping in the preseason, I hope that continues
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: if he sees regular season action, and I hope if
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: JaMarcus Ingram sees regular season action.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: All right, I'm not trying.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: I normally don't care if other fans are in here,
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: but if you're just going to be like super contentious,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: like I'm just goodbye, have a good night, bro, We'll
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: see what JaMarcus Ingram can be if he gets put
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: into a game. Right, the physicality, if it can still
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: match with the technique. What do you see with the
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: athleticism and the coverage aspect that he provides, and again
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: the inside outside versatility. So I think that depth will
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: be tested with Elam and with Ingram will kind of
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: see what they can be.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: Also, I apologize if you hear the blinds banging.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: I do have the windows open, and for those of
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: you who don't know, I mentioned it earlier. My AC
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: is not working in the office so it's hot as hell,
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: so I got the windows open like crazy.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: Also, from a.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: Chat perspective, I normally don't care if there's other fans
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: and people go back and forth, but if someone's coming
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: in here purely to troll and just bother everybody and
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: talk ridiculous stuff like, I just don't want to see
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: it keep popping up and being distracting for everyone. So
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: that's why I booted that dude, like he can go
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: be a Chiefs fan. I don't care that he's a
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: Chief fan. I didn't even see what he said. I
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: just saw the contentious nature of it. And I'm not
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: here for that right now, especially at ten forty three
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: on a friggin Tuesday.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: I'm not down for that.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: But again, good corner grouping. We'll see how the depth
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: works out at outside corner. And because again I do
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: think that's going to be tested at some point, Benver
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: is gonna get banged up, Douglas is gonna get banged up.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: You're gonna see Kayir and or JaMarcus Ingram see actual
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: game reps this year, and we'll see how they function.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: Moving on to the last position, Oh, Jay Will says,
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: what was the biggest surprise cut to you? It was
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: Daikwon Hardy. I thought he played good at outside corner.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: I thought he showed good zone recognition. I thought he
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: recognized route distributions well and made plays on the ball.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: I think he was fine coming up against the run.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: He had a couple tackles that he missed but I
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: think overall was fine. I and this is I guess
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: kind of kind of a knock on him based on
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: his size, but I thought he played well despite his size,
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: and if he was just.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: A little taller, a little longer arms.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: I think he would have had a couple interceptions, even
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: just from that Pittsburgh Steelers game.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: So again, I the biggest surprise cut to me was.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: Deay Kwon Hardy still to this moment, and again, I
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: hope he comes back on the practice squad Josh has.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: And have you seen any footage on the new CB
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: we got.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: I watched some of his special team stuff against Carolina,
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: just because that was his standout game, But no, I
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: have not watched any actual corner stuff from a couple
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: of people that I know.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: In respect, his corner tape is.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: Not good, and I think the expectation for him is
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: to be he's a corner, but in name only, in depth,
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: chart jargon only, he's just a returner, punt return, kick return.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be the punt returner and the
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: kick returner. I thought Ty Johnson was gonna be the
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: kick returner, and hard he would be punt looks like
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: Codrington's going to be both. But no, I haven't watched
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: any tape on him yet play defense. I will either
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: tonight or tomorrow impost some stuff if there's anything notable.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: Also just in general of getting prepared for the cover
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: one film room tomorrow. Yeah, I also like booted that
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: guy and then he came back and made another comment,
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: So I feel like he has multiple I feel like
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: that Chiefs guy has multiple accounts, which is just straight
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: up troll indication and a huge red flag in general.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: I bet he comes back at some point with another
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: account or another name like which again can be fine.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: Like I just I don't know how much time you
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: have on your hands to want to friggin do that.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: But Cage, they're frigging own safeties. Taylor Rapp, Mike Edwards,
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: Cole Bishop cam Lewis, and DeMar Hamlin, Terrell Burgess, indeed Delaney,
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: we're both placed on injured reserves. The Bills keep five safeties.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: I am interested to.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: See what happens here at safety In terms of who
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: the running is with Taylor Rap. I know that was
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: a question earlier, maybe like ten minutes ago, right before
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: we got into the secondary. I think Rap is one
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: of your guaranteed starters if everyone's healthy. Realistically, I think
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: we let me, let me, let me back up. I
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: think Mike Edward starts week one with Taylor Rap. I
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: don't think cold Bishop is going to be completely one
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: hundred percent and up to speed. And even if he
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: is one hundred percent from a health standpoint, I think
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: him just being a rookie and it hurts his case
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: a little bit. I think Mike Edwards starts week one.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: I think your too healthiest safeties of all the banged
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: up safeties, and again everybody's been Edwards had the hamstring injury,
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: Damar has a hamstring. Cold Bishop I had that shoulder
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: or the rib piece or whatever. They kept him out
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: for a while. If there's any questions in that group,
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: I think it's funny from Johnny says it's Bill Belichick.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: He's trolling us, and this sweepswap, so that's Jerious Tony's burner.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: That's funny.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: If there's any doubt with the safeties in week one,
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: I think the opening week grew is cam Lewis and
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: Taylor Rap. If there's still injury concerns with Edwards or
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: Bishop or Hamlin, some combination. You're looking at it easy
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: cam Lewis and Taylor Rap. But if I had to
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: bet my money, I think the starter day one is
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: Mike Edwards to go along with Taylor Rap. If it's
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: not Edwards, I think it's cam Lewis. That is what
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: I am betting on when it comes to day one,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: just because I don't think Bishop is going to be
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: completely ready from a health or just rookie ready to
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: see starting minutes aspect, and the way DeMar's hamstring was going,
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: I don't see him necessarily being ready either. And I
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: also think Mike Edwards is a better safety than DeMar Hamlin.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: So I think, all things equal, if there is health there,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: I think Edwards and Rap are your opening day starters
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: against Arizona. If I had to bet money on a
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: different pairing, it would be cam Lewis and Taylor RAP.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: And then overall with that.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: Grouping not a lot of sexiness to it, I think
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: a pairing of Edwards and Rap is a good enough
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: group to have you compete for a wildcard. I don't
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: think they're a safety grouping that is a vulnerability or
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: you know, leaves you exposed on the back end. But
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: I do think you're ceiling in terms of coverage, structure,
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: and upside is a little limited just based off of
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: each of their skill sets and not necessarily having any
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: safety that has true post safety single high safety range.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: I guess in theory Coal Bishop would have it, but
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he has the processing and the
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: recognition to capitalize on that athleticism. I don't think Demor
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: is that guy. I don't think Rap is that guy.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: Edwards is probably the best suited for it, given his
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: overall combination of processing, play recognition, speed, and athleticism. Nobody's
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: really an athletic marvel on that back end other than
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: Cole Bishop. I think Rap is a decent combo of
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: physicality in terms of being a hammer and having some
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: athleticism to his game. He's not a complete statue moving
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: in concrete back there, but he's not really a rangy
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: ballhawk type of scene.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: So I think this group is fine.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're not a deficiency the safety room,
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: but I don't think they're a strength of this defense
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: or this team, and I don't think they're a group
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: that helps you unlock more of your defense. Hide employer
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: honestly Bills fans are spoiled with Hide and Ployer for
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: all those years. But I think each of them, and
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: then them in conjunction with one another, were force multipliers
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: in terms of helping the defense, being able to unlock
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: other players, other levels and things. From a schematic presentation
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: standpoint and from a schematic execution standpoint, I don't think
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: you have that anymore. I think Rap is good enough
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: to get the job done. I think Mike Edwards is
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: good enough to get the job done.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: We'll see what Cole Bishop can be.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: I think he's probably the highest ceiling guy they have
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: in that room, not even probably, I think he is
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: the highest ceiling guy that they have in that room.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: We'll see how he comes back from his injury and
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: then how he just develops in general injury aside. But
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: I think right now, looking at that grouping, it's not
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: a strength. But I don't think it's a aplete deficiency
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: or a whole or something that necessarily holds you back. Again,
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think you can achieve the same level of
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: upside that you had in years past.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: I think Babbage and McDermott similar to kind of the
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: wide receiver room on offense. I think the Bill.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: Safety grouping is to the defense like the wide receiver
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: grouping is to the offense. It's a grouping that has
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: some skill sets that you can work with, and they
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: have some schematic potential that you can take advantage of.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: But it's going to be on the defensive coordinator or
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: the coaching staff to maximize it with that safety grouping,
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: like it is on Joe Brady to maximize the wide receivers.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: And I trust Sean McDermott when it comes to safeties.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: I think part of what made Hide and Ployer hide
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: and Poyer was Sean McDermott. The track record of what
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: he did with safeties in Philly, what he did and Carolina,
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: and again what he did here in Buffalo, getting the
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: most blood out of the safety stone year after year
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: and raising floors and raising ceilings. I trust him to
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: set their safeties up for success, mitigate their areas of
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: opportunity by playing to their strength strengths as much as possible.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: But within that, I think that just limits some more
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: of the coverage stuff you can do right, You have
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: to disguise more. How late can you truly spin? How
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: comfortable do you feel playing cover one and cover three,
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: based on who you're gonna have in the post, who
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: is that post safety? How predictable are you in and
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: our teams able to key on okay, like if they
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: are going to have a post safety, it's gonna be
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: Edwards or it's gonna be RAP, So we can kind
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: of I think in that I mean, they use wrap
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: more deep last year than I thought they would in general.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: But if you're sitting there and I'm making the hypothetical up,
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: but if they teams can key in on like, okay,
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: if they go single high, it's gonna be Mike Edwards.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: We really just have to key on RAP because RAP
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: is going to be that buzz safety or the robber
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: or the down safety, and we just have to watch
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: for the spin. But we kind of know based on
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: odds and probability, this is their tell.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: This is the key. It just limits some of what
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: you can do with hide and ployer. You could do anything.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: You could run quarters, you could run cover two, you
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: could run cover six, you could run cover two. Man,
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: you could run cover one, you could run cover one, Robber,
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: you could run rat and whole, you could run cover three,
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: buzz sky, you could hold your pre snapshell and then
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: flip it on its head.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: As soon as the snap happened, you could play games.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: They could disguise and just spin and rock and roll
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: their safeties at a moment's notice, because of how smart
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: they were, but also because of how interchangeable their skill
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: sets were. Even though Hide lean more towards a traditional
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: free and Poyer leaned towards more of a traditional strong,
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: they both were at the forefront of that movement of
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: removing the strong and removing the free from safety positions,
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: and they were both just safeties. So I don't think
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: you have that anymore. I don't think anybody thinks you
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: have that anymore. And it's not the worst thing in
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: the world. It just means the safety grouping isn't a
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: strength of this team like it used to be. And
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: it means some of your schematic upside and capability is
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: a bit limited. You don't have as much access to
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: the menu without turning the page like you did previously
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: with Hide and Poyer. So you just have to chain
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: some things in terms of coverage ratios and how you
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: get to it the presentation that you have for it.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: But we'll see. And again I don't think it's terrible.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: I think it's a grouping overall, no matter what the
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: combination is, I think it's a grouping that's good enough
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: to get you a wild card spot, especially if it's
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: Edwards in RAP. I do think, all things equal, the
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: best starting safety grouping for twenty twenty four if you're
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: trying to win in twenty twenty four is Mike Edwards
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: and Taylor Rap, and then if Edwards goes down, I
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: would like Cold Bishop to be that guy, just to
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: see what he offers. But I don't dislike Cold Bishop.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: I just think he's better more in the box and
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: less as a traditional safety. I think Cold Bishop is
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: best us at used as a box safety Apex Nickel
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: in and around the sideline and hook curls and seems
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: kind of like that type of role. I think he's
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: best as, you know, a robber or as a buzz
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: safety coming down. I think he's best in and around
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: the line of script. But I think he'd be great
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: in like the Ravens defense or the Patriots defense, these
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: defences that are multiple that use three safeties at a time,
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: and he can blitz from the slot, he can be
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: at the second level, he can go and cover in
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: the flat. He can do a lot of match things
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: from the underneath and the intermediate. But we'll see again
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: how he kind of translates again. For me, I know
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: I've said again like five times in the last like
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: three seconds, but I think the best option for winning
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four at safety is Mike Edwards and
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: Taylor Rap. If it's not Mike Edwards and Taylor Rap,
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: then I'm putting Cole Bishop in for either rap or Edwards.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: Those are so safety one and two are rap In Edwards.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: Safety three for me is Cole Bishop. I don't mind
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: DeMar Hamlin. I think he's good coming from depth and
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: function in and around the box, and he's got good
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: snap timing and being a forced player in and around
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. I don't love him in coverage,
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: and I don't love his athleticism or potentially kind of
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: lack thereof. Lauren says, I worry that Kincaid was too
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: much in their ear about Bishop. I hope I'm wrong
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: and Bishop shows out, but I'm leary.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: Second that notion.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: I don't again, I don't think he's a bad player.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: The Bills have, just their safeties are more traditional safeties.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: I think Cold Bishop would be good or more fun
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: or best suited for And I don't want to make
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: this comparison because they're very different from a size and
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: frame standpoint. I think Cold Bishop will be better and
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: more like a Kyle Hamilton role where he's like the
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: big nickel or like what Jeremy Chin was at times
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: as a rookie in his first couple of years of Carolina,
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: where sometimes he's a he's a split safety deep, sometimes
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: he's single high safety, but sometimes he's coming in as
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: a linebacker. Sometimes he's in the slot and he's a
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: true slot, you know, matching or covering in man or
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: covering the flat, or he's blitzing and doing all this stuff.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: I like him more as this monster man chess piece
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: that you can move all around and hide. Employer weren't
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: that so I think you'd have to change the safety
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: structure a little bit to get away with that. And
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: then also you got to tie in the running mate
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: with him a little bit, like if you're unlocking Cole Bishop.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: If it's Cold Bishop and n and Taylor Rap, that
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: means Rap is playing more single high and more deep
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: safety type stuff. And just I don't think it necessarily
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: coalesces in a one two pretty I don't know how
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: the puzzle pieces fit.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 2: Great.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: Again, I don't think he's bad. I also don't think
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: he plays as fast as the athletic testing numbers show,
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: which is a whole other issue for me. But yeah,
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: I just question what his fit is given how they
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: traditionally have used their safeties versus what I project his
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: best fit to be. Doesn't mean he's bad, doesn't mean
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: it's not gonna work out. And again, Sean McDermott has
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: a great record with safety, so part of me feeling
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: better is knowing Sean mcdermot's track record with safeties.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I do. I do have some trepidation with
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: the pick.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: I didn't love him completely from an individual evaluation standpoint,
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: and I didn't love his fit necessarily with the bills,
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: just based on what he excels at, where he excels,
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: and what they've done in the past.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 2: But we'll see, we'll see, we'll see, we'll see. But Bah,
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: what is another question for me here? Josh's aunt?
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: Your percentage chance that Micah decides to come back, Oh,
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: right now, I'm gonna say like twenty just based off
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: of like some of the things he said, but I
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: really feel like he's he's cool, just kind of retiring
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: and chilling. But I won't completely rulled out, So I'm
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: gonna say twenty percent chance right now. James had a
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: similar question as well, saying do we see hide at
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: some point? He might be it At some time this
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: season he might be who knows, Maybe the safety room
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: falls apart with injuries or play and they call Micah
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: Hyde and he comes in and works out and is
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: on the roster for several weeks and then finally suits
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: up again. We'll see, Yeah, it's it's gonna be interesting
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: to see what kind of happens at safety. A little
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: bit last piece here Special teams. Tyler Bass is your kicker,
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: Sam Martin as your punter, Read Ferguson as your long snapper.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: Not too much to get into here other than I
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: don't feel completely confident in Tyler Bass, which sucks. I
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: hope he gets some low leverage opportunities to kick come
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: regular season and that helps him get rid of the
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: yips and build his confidence back up. But as of
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: right now, I don't have a ton of confidence in him.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think he has a ton of confidence in himself.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: So we'll kind of see what Tyler Bass is going forward.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: But I do think it's fair to be a bit
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: worried about him, or be worried about the kicker position.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: As far as bringing competition for him to beat him out.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: I just don't know if you're going to bring in
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: somebody who's better than him right now, or who's going
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: to be more consistent than him, and then tying it
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: into what he's got going on. If he's already having
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: having confidence issues and you bring in other kickers to
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: try out and they're not as good as him, and
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: you stick with Tyler Bass, that's fine, but then you
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: also probably knocked his confidence down a bit more because
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: you just showed your hand that you wanted to bring
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: another kicker. So I think it's a muddy and annoying
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: situation to have. I'm hoping things kind of work out again.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: Give him some first two, three, four games, Give him,
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: if the opportunity presents himself, givehim a bunch of thirty
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: yard kick or forty and under kind of build him
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: back up a little by little, so if you need
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: to lean on him for fifty yarders and fifty five
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: plus he's got some of his swagger back a little bit,
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: but I think it's fair to be worried about that spot.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: Sam Martin, I'm in a similar kind of boat. I
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: just want him to reduce the inconsistency. I love when
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: he kicks like fifty five yard bombs, which is sweet.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: I hate that he also kind of pairs that with
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: like fifteen to twenty yard shanks. I'd rather him just
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: consistently give me a forty to forty four yard punt
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: every time with good hangtime, and I'll take that. Give
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: me reduce the roller coaster, reduce the variants, even though
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: some of the variants is sweet and on the high end.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: Just be steady Eddy when it comes to the punt game.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll kind of see what happens there. Going back
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  Speaker 1: to some of the comments here, Joe saying, could it
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  Speaker 1: be that the use of player as a dimebacker last
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  Speaker 1: season inspired them to take someone who could excel in
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  Speaker 1: that role and be a security blanket on the off
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  Speaker 1: chance Molano got hurt or the backup struggle. That's a
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  Speaker 1: fair thought. I'm just not doing that with a second
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  Speaker 1: round pick. Like, if that's the thought for Cole Bishop
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  Speaker 1: cool that's suite. It's still a sub package roll. Granted
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  Speaker 1: it's a sub package roll that is important in today's NFL,
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  Speaker 1: But taking a dude in the second round to just
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  Speaker 1: fill a sub package niche or function on the off
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  Speaker 1: chance of something, I don't think that's the best allocation
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  Speaker 1: of resources given where this roster is. So I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's a horrible idea or even a horrible thought.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't love the resource allocation of it, given
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  Speaker 1: that he was a second round pick. If you're doing
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  Speaker 1: that with a guy in the fourth round or fifth round,
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  Speaker 1: or even in the third, depending on where you are
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  Speaker 1: where your team is, I think it's a different conversation
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  Speaker 1: to be had. And also too overall, I think they
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  Speaker 1: do see him as kind of like a traditional answer
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  Speaker 1: at the safety spot.
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  Speaker 2: Which they need.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Edwards is on a one year deal, Rap
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  Speaker 1: is on a three But you really, if you wanted to,
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  Speaker 1: you could cut Taylor Rap right now and the financial
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  Speaker 1: repercussions are not significant, and then he has an even
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  Speaker 1: easier out next year when it comes to dead cap.
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  Speaker 1: So there's no real longevity at the safety spot for
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  Speaker 1: anybody on the roster currently other than Cole Bishop, So
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  Speaker 1: I think they drafted him with the intent of him
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  Speaker 1: being an answer at one of the safety spots going forward.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously at one he can't be the NaNs ripple. I
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  Speaker 1: just don't know how much they intend on playing in
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  Speaker 1: this year or how they intend on using him based
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  Speaker 1: on where I think his skill set leans, how he
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  Speaker 1: was used at Utah and how the Bill safeties have
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  Speaker 1: been used traditionally, or again, it could be another schematic
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  Speaker 1: type of.
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  Speaker 2: Change.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the way Terrell Bernard played linebacker last year,
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  Speaker 1: the way they used him, it was a different type
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  Speaker 1: of linebacker role that they used Tremaine Edmunds for. They
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  Speaker 1: did not play Bernard at linebacker, they the way they
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  Speaker 1: played Tremaine Edmits because they're different players with different skill sets.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe we'll get some of that with the safety
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  Speaker 1: spot as well, and we'll get some less traditional safety
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  Speaker 1: stuff or just more chaos back there in terms of
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  Speaker 1: disguising and spins and rotations and what they do with everything.
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  Speaker 1: And then Joe follow up saying, plus the hopeful development
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  Speaker 1: of him at safety, the scheme.
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  Speaker 2: Sure could happen. It could happen, It could happen.
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  Speaker 1: Lauren says, do you think Brady will be scheming more
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  Speaker 1: than usual to not have to go for field goals
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  Speaker 1: this year with a lesser confidence in Bass. Do coordinators
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  Speaker 1: voice their concerns about other groupings openly? I feel like
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  Speaker 1: they voice their concerns probably in the coaches meetings. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's something that's probably established going into a week.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the coordinators are getting together and with McDermott,
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  Speaker 1: that coaching staff's getting together, and if Smiley's saying like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: this is where BASS is at from a mental standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: from an execution standpoint, so you're preparing in week for that,
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  Speaker 1: and they also think you're probably in game, like I mean,
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: they also check with the kickers too, Like McDermott will
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 1: check with the kickers or not just say mcdermom but
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: like coaches will check with the kicker to be like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: where are you good from today? Like, okay, you're good
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 1: from fifty and below or sixty and below. Here's how
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: you feel?
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  Speaker 2: All right?
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: Cool. They're checking with the coordinator knowing like, hey, is
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  Speaker 1: he how's he feeling today?
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 2: Is he good?
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: What do you think our odds are doing this or that?
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 1: And then that is going to go into the conversation
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 1: I think that's a really good question and a really
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 1: good point, Lauren. I think you could see more like
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  Speaker 1: fourth down attempts this year from the bills or more
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  Speaker 1: you know it's third and seven instead of just straight
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: up trying to get you know, it's third and seven
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  Speaker 1: from the forty, instead of trying to just straight up
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  Speaker 1: get eight yards or more and get the first down,
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: maybe doing something to make it fourth and three or
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 1: fourth and two because you're gonna go four and on
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: fourth down because you're not holistically confident in Tyler Bass.
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: I think that's a really interesting thing to track one
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: and two. Just overall good question, And yeah, coordinators are
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 1: gonna get together. They're gonna know and understand who's got
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  Speaker 1: a good feel. Same thing with not even just coordinator's position.
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 1: Coaches know that, like who's got a good feel this
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: week at these positions. Everybody is kind of funneling that
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  Speaker 1: information together to build out the lineups, the situational packaging,
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: and then that all coming together on game day with
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  Speaker 1: real time updates as the games progress in terms of
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  Speaker 1: knowing everyone's status and how everyone can best be used
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 1: and best deployed.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty good question.
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  Speaker 1: I like that A lot man I did not expect
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