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HUGE increase in Toyota thefts and why the new Macan might be a dud · The Driver's Show

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  Speaker 3: How's this for funny? The other time I was here,
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's some That's and that was the news segment
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  Speaker 1: we call Paul's Shitty tippit.
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  Speaker 3: Oh thank you, Paul, speaking tidbits. Whatever happened to your
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  Speaker 3: dad's stolen car? You remember how the police you couldn't
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  Speaker 3: get the tracking stuff. Did they ever find the car?
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  Speaker 1: No? But yeah, so the car was on it did it?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, well the car the tracking device. I should say,
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  Speaker 1: I've got to be careful what I say here. Interesting
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  Speaker 1: lawyer is no longer on the scene.
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  Speaker 3: I thought she took.
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  Speaker 1: Was that. No, she's not a leave, she's there's a
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  Speaker 1: reason I'm saving this macas to feed a family anyway.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, this is generally where the wheels fall off. No,
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  Speaker 1: so the tracking device of the vehicle pinged back to
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  Speaker 1: the dealership he bought it from in a completely different state,
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  Speaker 1: at the other end of Australia. Oh yeah, you didn't
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  Speaker 1: know that, So I thought.
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  Speaker 3: It pinged to the dealership in Melbourne.
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  Speaker 1: No, he bought it. He bought this car from a dealership.
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  Speaker 1: He's from Melbourne and he bought this car from I
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  Speaker 1: won't say the exact one, but he bought it from
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  Speaker 1: a dealership in Queensland. Because if I tell you which
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  Speaker 1: one it is, you'll be able to know very very quickly.
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  Speaker 3: Because okay, that must mean they just never set up
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  Speaker 3: the tracking properly.
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  Speaker 1: Because well, we hope.
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  Speaker 3: So unlikely that the thief would go, I'm just going
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  Speaker 3: to go get my car serviced.
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  Speaker 1: Well maybe, or maybe maybe it was the dealership. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of different things, so who knows.
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  Speaker 3: That'd be interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows, maybe that dealership could be responsible for a
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  Speaker 1: few things I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Out of a bicycle club, motorized bicycle club.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe the cops kind of said, please just leave it
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  Speaker 1: from now. Let's just you know this, this stuff happens
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  Speaker 1: all the time.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't worry about it. She'll be right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's more like I think it was more like,
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  Speaker 1: leave it to us. We'll ask the questions. Please don't
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  Speaker 1: contact these people, don't do this, don't do that.
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  Speaker 3: I ask the questions. It's been a long time now.
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  Speaker 1: Nah, I don't think they did. And well they might have,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think it was very much like,
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  Speaker 1: let's just insurance has paid it out. Yeah, so I
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  Speaker 1: think once you kind of if you don't close these
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  Speaker 1: cases and move on to the thousands of other things
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  Speaker 1: they've got going on, they're just going to get bogged
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  Speaker 1: down and shit I mean, Mercedes made it so fucking hard,
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  Speaker 1: so absolutely impossible to track that car. The fact that
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  Speaker 1: they didn't turn it on for two and a half
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  Speaker 1: weeks after police had asked them repeatedly, the fucking police,
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  Speaker 1: the pole leaks ask them to turn this thing on
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  Speaker 1: repeatedly in emails and on the phone, and they just
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  Speaker 1: blatantly refused.
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  Speaker 3: How's the irony They market it as a tracking tool.
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  Speaker 3: The second you need to use your fucking tracking tool,
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  Speaker 3: you cannot figure out how to turn this thing on.
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  Speaker 3: What is the point.
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  Speaker 1: I'm also surprised that it didn't like that if this
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  Speaker 1: was a dealer responsibility, a dealership responsibility. I remember talking
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  Speaker 1: to Landrover about this and their car has already come
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  Speaker 1: with it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, when I picked up Dad's Ranger, which has connected services,
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  Speaker 3: before you leave the dealership, they're obliged to set it
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  Speaker 3: up for you to activate.
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  Speaker 1: The mode, and that's on the app, that's on everything.
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  Speaker 3: The dealership before you leave, which in theory they would
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  Speaker 3: have had to have done with the BENS. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: see why they wouldn't do it, given you've got the
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  Speaker 3: bloody service.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, just a shit form. Anyway, He's loving his
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  Speaker 1: brand Toyota Parto.
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  Speaker 3: Well, can I tell you about his new toyde Prato
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  Speaker 3: or loves at general.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Toyotas in general are getting stolen, ton't they.
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  Speaker 3: It's out of control. So Victoria, We've spoken about this
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  Speaker 3: previously about the huge amount of car theft going on
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  Speaker 3: in Victoria with Classic holdens and stuff. Now the thieves
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  Speaker 3: have switched to Toyotas. So two hundred series land Cruiser Prato,
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  Speaker 3: so previous generation, current generation Corolla Colas or eighty six.
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  Speaker 3: They are getting stolen in huge numbers. Highlux. Highlux is
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  Speaker 3: the most stolen car in Victoria at the moment, is
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  Speaker 3: it really? It's something like two or three a day
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  Speaker 3: are getting stolen.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: And they're using the same tool, that cheap tool that
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  Speaker 3: you can get off the marketplace, hem and stuff. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that they were using for the holdens on all of
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  Speaker 3: these Toyotas. And it's a clever strategy in the sense
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  Speaker 3: because if you steal a Classic Holden, it stands out
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  Speaker 3: a lot, whereas if you steal a White land Cruiser
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  Speaker 3: or a White Camri, no one can tell it apart
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  Speaker 3: from the other White Camri. They clone the play and
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  Speaker 3: they drive around in this stolen car. And what they're
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  Speaker 3: increasingly using the two hundred series for is for ram
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  Speaker 3: raids and also for stealing other vehicles on stolen trailers.
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  Speaker 3: So they'll steal a trailer most Land cruises will have
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  Speaker 3: a towbar. They'll hitch on, steal a car, whack it
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  Speaker 3: on the trailer and away they go. So it is
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  Speaker 3: just on another level at the moment in terms of
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  Speaker 3: how bad it is.
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  Speaker 1: So they are they tolling a car with a stolen car.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, Yeah it's crazy, but you would never know because
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  Speaker 3: they'll clone a plate and to the naked eye, it's
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  Speaker 3: just some like driving down the road with a car
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  Speaker 3: on the back. So yeah, it is just crazy. So
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  Speaker 3: if you do drive a Toyota, Toyota is being extremely
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  Speaker 3: unhelpful with this, like you know, to me, I kind
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  Speaker 3: of was very disappointed with the GM response to us
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  Speaker 3: that they kind of just don't give a shit. And Okay,
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  Speaker 3: to a degree, I get it. Holden's on on sale
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  Speaker 3: here hasn't met on sale for a while. They clearly
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  Speaker 3: don't care about Australia. Whatever, Toyota, you are still selling
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  Speaker 3: some of these cars, like you are still selling Corollas,
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  Speaker 3: in that shape, the RAB four in that shape. They
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  Speaker 3: can all be stolen using this tool. And while a
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  Speaker 3: lot of new toyotas have connected services, a lot of
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  Speaker 3: the older ones don't. And these cars that are still
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  Speaker 3: in warranty, and I think.
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  Speaker 1: They see that's my big thing. If it's still in
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  Speaker 1: warranty and they're refusing to do or fix what is
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  Speaker 1: effectively a bug. Yeah, it's a bug.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it is inherently an issue with if you look
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  Speaker 3: at this holistically, a two hundred series land Cruiser ended
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  Speaker 3: production a few years ago. Before that, it was on
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  Speaker 3: sale for ten more ten or more years at that
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  Speaker 3: ten year mark. Ten years prior to it going to
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  Speaker 3: it wrapping up being on sale, they would have had
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  Speaker 3: engineers working on the security system, which would have been
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  Speaker 3: maybe two or three years before that. So you're talking
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  Speaker 3: about a security system now that is about twenty years old.
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  Speaker 3: So by that point people have reverse engineered this stuff
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  Speaker 3: and clearly set up tools that are cheap to buy
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  Speaker 3: and easy to steal these cars with. So when you
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  Speaker 3: look at it from that point of view, you need
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  Speaker 3: to be doing better by your customers now and maybe
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  Speaker 3: incentivize them to come in for a service at a
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  Speaker 3: Toyota dealership where you fit this fix. You know, they
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  Speaker 3: have smart engineers, they can fix this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So here's what I'd say. We're at an issue where
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  Speaker 1: Toyota is not fixing them, right, So what do people do?
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  Speaker 1: What is the fix to this?
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  Speaker 3: So there's two devices. There's a ghost to a Nigla.
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  Speaker 3: Both of these are types of immobilizers. Both of these
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  Speaker 3: at this stage can't be stolen by thieves, and at
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  Speaker 3: least I'm sure they can. But they can't be stolen
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  Speaker 3: by the majority of thieves because the people that are
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  Speaker 3: stealing these cars are as dumb as dogshit. They don't
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  Speaker 3: actually know really what they're doing. All they've seen is
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  Speaker 3: on the internet. Their mates send them a link to
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  Speaker 3: this device that can steal cars, so they just go And.
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  Speaker 1: I think, I actually think some of them are fairly
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  Speaker 1: fucking smart. I think the people who stole my dad's
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  Speaker 1: car fucking knew what was up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think that's just more brazen. If you
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  Speaker 3: don't if you steal a car that potentially has connected services,
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  Speaker 3: like you are dumb because while you do that. So
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  Speaker 3: I think that that is a level of brazenness. But
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  Speaker 3: these people that are stealing. These aren't all that sophisticated
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  Speaker 3: because a lot of them are joy riding in them,
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  Speaker 3: which just doesn't It's just stupid thing to do if
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  Speaker 3: you don't want to stand out.
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  Speaker 1: So you don't think they're reselling and doing all that
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  Speaker 1: sort of stuff Wreckers and stuff, especially if it's a
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  Speaker 1: Toyota Wrap four and a look.
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  Speaker 3: They might be, but it's not the market that is
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  Speaker 3: classic V eights. There's so many parts available for all
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  Speaker 3: those cars at Wreckers that I don't know that you'd
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  Speaker 3: get the like an LS three. You just cannot buy
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  Speaker 3: ls's anymore. So this is where they're getting a lot
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  Speaker 3: of money from. So yeah, I think that a lot
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  Speaker 3: of this just comes down to Toyota needing to do better.
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  Speaker 3: And I will emphasize as well, this isn't limited to
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  Speaker 3: Toyota super heaps of STIs are getting stolen, Wrx's, Lavorg's
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  Speaker 3: this this is a thing that is happening to a
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  Speaker 3: lot of different car brands. If it has a push
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  Speaker 3: button start, it can probably be stolen.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy. Oh, speaking of the subs, they just released
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  Speaker 1: the new Forester. You see the new Look out back.
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  Speaker 3: What the fuck like an outback used to be a wagon.
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  Speaker 3: The latest one got a little bit bigger. This one.
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  Speaker 3: I just do not understand, Like what it makes no
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  Speaker 3: sense to me, really makes no sense.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean? What don't you like about it? Sorry?
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  Speaker 1: Just keep going, keep talking. It looks tragic, the new outback.
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  Speaker 1: What don't you like about it? What are you googling? No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm searching. Someone's at my front door anyway.
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  Speaker 1: What we're saying? Superos? Yeah? Oh sorry, sorry, mates, some
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  Speaker 1: Katie Lang's playing. I'm sorry. I just you got any
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  Speaker 1: Scissor sisters. The outback is really good. Sorry, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why. I think it's every time you say super
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  Speaker 1: or outback, Katie Lang.
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  Speaker 3: Starts playing on my phone.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why that's that's so random anyway. So
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  Speaker 1: I actually I was thinking about the new Supero outback.
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  Speaker 3: And oh jesus, Missy Higgins is playing.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that's weird. I don't know why that's happened anyway. So, okay,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. That's enough. Jeez, unbelievable anyway, anyway,
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  Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm looking at the super back. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, I was, I was looking at the new
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: design of that super hour back and the fucking scissors
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  Speaker 1: is a plague? How random is.
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  Speaker 4: That I get in my super room when I lock
• 11:36
  Speaker 4: my wist big for the muff?
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: Oh hey, so did you see this? This popped across
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: my desk the other week? The Apple Cup play in
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  Speaker 1: the Auston Martin. I don't have I do have a
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  Speaker 1: desk out there by the way.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we're in the studio that Gordon works in.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the desk over there is the one that
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  Speaker 1: looks like it hasn't been used in the twelve months
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: we've been in this building because it hasn't. I don't
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  Speaker 1: use my desk. I just waltzed into the studio. What's up, guys, girls,
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  Speaker 1: good old ladies. Oh, come on, it's like seagulls fighting
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  Speaker 1: over a chip in here. Take a ticket and wait
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: in life, the deli is ready for business. Yes, Apple
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: Car plays, that was just that's just how this random
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: salami you get in here? Oh my god? Sorry, okay,
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: so yes, listen of Apple car play in the Aston Martin,
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: which is not just like normal Apple car play. It's
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: a real interface.
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: Take over there running and the speedo, everything infotainment, And
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: this is.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of what we've been talking about for ages. I
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: know Trevor was sort of predicting this that Apple will
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: concentrate more on the interface than their Apple cars that
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: that were doing.
• 12:58
  Speaker 3: Can I tell you why this is fun and it's
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: a bad idea?
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: The other day is so negative?
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: The other day I got an update for my iPhone
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: and the lead line on that update was a Pride
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: wallpaper that they're rolling out. What they haven't fixed, though,
• 13:15
  Speaker 3: is the fucked camera that doesn't work when car plays running,
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: the phone that just randomly freezes so you can't type shit,
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: the phone that won't charge sometimes. This thing has become
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: a piece of shit. Come Tim Cook, I'm telling you,
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: has fucked that company so badly and they've completely taken
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: their eye off creating a phone that works. So my
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: concern is if the Apple car play inside that car
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: is as shit as my phone is now, and there's
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: a brand new phone with the latest software update, I mean,
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: what good is that going to be when it just
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: all stops working.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: An interview with Zuckerberg and he said similar stuff, not
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: quite to that ELK, but.
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: He was talking about vision Pro.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well he was talking about Apple as a company
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: haven't exactly invented anything great.
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: No Vision Pro was Tim Cook's thing, and it's shit.
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  Speaker 3: It's expensive and useless. So when you look at how
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: bad that company is now that he's in charge, it's
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: like they need a Steve Jobs back in there, someone
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: who is willing to go, Okay, we're going to stop
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: all the woke bullshit and we're going to go back
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: to actually doing phones the work instead of focusing on
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: all this other crap. All that other crap can come
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: when I can type shit on my phone and the
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: camera works until that point.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: Your ecosystem, though, having said that, is still very much
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: This is what shits me because it's all Apple.
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: But I'm going to get to the point where this
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: thing when I need to fire it up to film
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: a video and it shits itself again, I'm just gonna Yeah,
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: I'm going to crack it and just go get an Android, which.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: I would recommend. I actually recommend it some of the
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Google The Google phones were great. I loved my Google phone.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: The only reason why I moved to an iPhone was
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: because it was just easier for social media stuff. But
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: now that they're all pretty much but fairly equal, And
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: this also.
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: Links back into the discussion we had in the last
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: episode about tariffs and Apple, and there's a bit of
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: a side step here, but because he's had his eye
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: off the game and he has been I listened to
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: a season of the Land of the Giants, which is
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: basically investigate companies, and Apple was one that they did
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: it on, and this was recorded years ago before this
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: tariff stuff, and they literally said in that that because
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: they are driving their supplies so hard in China, everyone
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: is a contractor, they try and extract as much margin
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: as they can out of this phone. If there is
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: ever a trade war, Apple is fucked. And that is
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: precisely what's happened now. Because he's been greedy and just
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: wanting all these big profits, the issue has now become
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: that he is going to face a massive loss or
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: have to jack the price of the phone up, which
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: you can only do so much of. Even now, this
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: phone is like a two and a half thousand dollars thing,
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: which is insane. If you want to make that a
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: three thousand dollars thing, I think it is really going
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: to be a struggle for people to actually justify that anyone.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, it's fucking It's only two hundred bucks to
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: fix that broken thing.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, and that's the other thing as well. They're
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  Speaker 3: so disposable that if I can be on Apple Care
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: for twenty whatever dollars a month and go throw this
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: off the building here and then just go get a
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: new one, it shows you how disposable they are and
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: how much money they make off each one of these phones.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and some of the horrific stuff you hear
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: about the factories that these people work in isn't like.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Things like the screen. This is supplied by Samsung.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the screen, I don't know. The Land of the Giants.
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  Speaker 3: Thing I was listening to is older. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if it's now Samsung, but they basically the IP behind
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: the screen and scratch proof. And I use air quotes
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  Speaker 3: here because this thing is anything that scratch. It is
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  Speaker 3: covered in scratches and I don't do anything like it
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: sits in my pocket with no keys or anything, and
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: it's like.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: You put the glass protector thing on it.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: But why why not make a screen that.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Isn't shit because the reality is they do.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, then you don't say it's scratchproof, yeah, but.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: It is it is. It isn't scratchproof, So why need
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: you just buy yourself a forty dollars.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Screen, Why should I I've bought your phone. I'm spending
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: twenty five bucks a month on Apple Care because you
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: know it's cheap to get it replaced. Yes, and I've
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: got a not scratchproof screen, but I'm now going to
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: need to get replaced.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: It's a forty dollars thing and you don't have to.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: You won't get But imagine if you bought a car
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: and they're like, oh, look it's fine, but you need
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: to buy this thing for the engine to just work
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: as it should.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that happens a lot when well.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: What do you have to buy with a car that
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: they claim that it just doesn't do?
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: But how many people modify their cars to make it better.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: You can do that. But this is the key item
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: is the screen. You say it's scratchproof, but if I
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: run my finger across it, it is full of scratches. Yeah,
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: so it's not scratchproof. And I don't necessarily like, I
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: don't go and scratch this on surfaces. I would never
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: do that. So how is it if I treat my phone? Well,
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: was it already scratched?
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: I'm worried about your health and I think you're going
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: to have cholesterol problems, and I think you should. Well, look,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: let me make some calls. Let's see if I can get.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: I do apologize for that rant, but I just think
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Apple has turned into a ship company anyway.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: And that's what really grinds his gears Apple. Okay, Well,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: we were going to talk about the the the Apple
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: car play in the Aston Martin. I'm look, I'm interested,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I think, and I think Apple car play is if
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: it works well in a car, it makes life so
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: much easier.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: I just hope they have the a team on it.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: That's all all right? Oh hey, did you say JAG
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: has rumored to have split with that marketing company? Why
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: you're on your little rats. I'd love to know what
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: you think it is. Yeah, who would have thought?
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Bullshit work? Marketing didn't work out?
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: It didn't work? Wow? Wow. And and the fact that
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: they were saying that they're going completely original, yet their
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: new logo is a complete roop off of the Beats font.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: It's honestly, you just look at it and you're like
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: you you don't need to be a rocket signist to
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: see that that was never gonna work.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: The physical concepts that they put out, Well, they're not concept,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: they're arguably the actual car, right. I kind of see
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: that they want to make sexy and almost unattainable again,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: you know, cars that people dream about owning. You know.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Then you see these rappers they want to kind of
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: hone in on that social media culture. They had that
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Barry Kadogan Ordogan, they had John Cadogan, they had social
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: media superstar John Kodogan do their marketing. Get a fucker's
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: I shaved my bloody pubes with this razor inside this
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: fucking car. That was impressions. That wasn't bad. But yeah,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Barry Keogan, I think his name is. He's from salts Burn, Saltburn.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Did you watch that? They spent a lot of their
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: marketing and a lot on this launch, and wow, what
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: a way to not do things.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: You know what I reckon has happened unofficially. I think Tata,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: who owns JLR. You know, you look at the execs
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: at Tata. I think they're fairly conservative. I reckon they
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: would have looked at this and gone, who the fuck
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: approved this? And stop it at once, And they're trying
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: to slowly walk their way out of it. I think
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: they're locked in with that car design and all the
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: other craft that comes with it, because it's now at
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: the driving engineering stage. But I think they will see
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: the marketing have a swift change because I do think
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: it's embarrassing for the brand and they Tata bought the
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: brand because it had so much heritage and they have
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: viscerated that heritage.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Is it fixable? That's the question. I think this will
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: take years.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Well, firstly, no one is buying luxury electric cars, so
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: there's your first mistake. So they're not going to sell
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: any just based on that alone. So I think that
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: even if it is good, it's it's just not going
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: to sell. So sang Yong is now known as in
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Australia KGM KGM, which is very GM.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: What does that stand for? It's to build your dream situation?
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Is that so KG mobility?
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Oh my god? They fucking what? That sounds like a
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: care facility kind of does it does? It's like we
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: bought you a wheelchair. They're nevil. It's the latest k GM,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: the camability.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: So the genesis is that sang Yong part of KG.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: KGM.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: So kg Sanyong became part of the KG group. They
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: were then known as KGM sang Yong Okay, then, and
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: the Sanyong brand dates back to like nineteen fifties. It
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: then became KGM Australia from June one.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Funk, why don't we even need chat GPT but we've
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: just got Pavlo.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so anyway, they tell me.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: More about the history of kg What else have you
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: got there?
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: They announced it at the same time as they announced
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: the kg acton, which actually looks interesting.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: Show me.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: It's like a sort of very futuristic RoboCop style.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Really looks like it looks like a Pergo. Yeah.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: But yeah, look, I think it's a brand that has
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: fairly struggle struggles for relevance in Australia, and I think
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: giving it an obscure, random name isn't going to help.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Well, it's an interesting take because they yeah, I mean
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Fu Sangyong. They they're bringing out sort of affordable cars
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: if you like. And then the little progress they've made,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: they've kind of got to start again with a complete rebrand.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: This comment wasn't kg M an eighties rapper.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: With a big shirt.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: You've worked with it a mitsu before at their launch event, right.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I did? I did, Mate, I went to their launch event.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: I am seated. Actually your boy mceed it hosted the
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: whole thing, very nice, delicious Japanese restaurant. But I'm really impressed.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I'm really impressed. These guys have been leaders in oil
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: innovation for over a century. You know, they're the ones
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: trusted by Toyota and Mazda to deliver precision engineered oils
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: straight from the factory, and now now they are bringing
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: the same expertise to ossie drivers. What stood out to
• 23:34
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• 23:37
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• 23:41
  Speaker 1: their nanotailored oil, which is why we're here, because this
• 23:43
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• 23:46
  Speaker 1: generic who ha products. No, no, not these guys. Every
• 23:51
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• 23:54
  Speaker 1: you something. The IFG three this stuff is perfect for
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: city driver. This is what you want for city driving.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: This is your stop start traffic, the stuff that puts
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: stress on your engine. But then there's the IFG seven
• 24:08
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• 24:11
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• 24:16
  Speaker 1: bit New Zealand. Seven layers of protection anyway, they've got
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: no cleansing tech. It stops oil breakdown and it even
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: just sorts it in the harshest condition. So if you're
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: driving a Japanese car, the IFG five, oh, that stuff
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: is built for precision engineered engines. It's offering five layers
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: of protection to keep your engine clean and running smoothly.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: So that sounds like a lot of attention to detail.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Oh so much detail, so much I nearly forgot it all.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: But the IFG seven isn't just oil. Just know that,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: because it's like giving your engine a custom suit of armor,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: like a little massage as well. It doesn't just protect
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: your engine, it optimizes performance. If you're into keeping your
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: car in and it's absolute best nick possible. This is
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: the oil you want, and now it's easy to get too.
• 25:06
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• 25:11
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• 25:16
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• 25:19
  Speaker 1: don't give me that. Let's just tell them that if
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: they search out in AMIDSU Australia on the Googles they'll
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: find where they're going. You know what I'm saying, they'll
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: ship it straight to or no fast, top tier oil
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: wherever you are. OK.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: If it's good enough for manufacturers like Toyota and mazdav and,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: it sounds good enough for me.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: M exactly. You know, with INAMIDSU, you're getting oil that's
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: designed to handle whatever you throw it at it. They've
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: been trusted for the best part of over one hundred years.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Look in Amitsu taking you beyond engine protection to
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: real driving excitement.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I think I could read that better. You ready it?
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Omitsu taking you beyond engine protection to real driving excitement?
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Was that good?
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Hey, I saw an old mate during the week, one
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: who I haven't seen in quite a long time, and
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I was excited to catch up. A bit awkward because
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I know they had a face left. O. God, can
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: you imagine, Trevor, I'm wearing a fucking girdle.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Now, have a look at me.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: He looks like a court drawing. But it's been quite
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: generous and that's it. That's that's where it ends with that.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: He just looks like a court drawing. That he looks like,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: he looks like if a homeless man imagined themselves getting
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: their life together. I love you. Trevy was supposed to
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: be here this week, so anyway.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: And why doesn't want to be here?
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know why. We had macas and everything. Yeah fuck,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: can you imagine if this stuff, this macas would not
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: have lasted long. If Trevor's here.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: There are four person bases.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: He would have he would have he would have poured
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: this large chips into Donna's belly button and just needed
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: like a dog.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Wow, that was that was good. You got him there.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: It's like it's just like a dog.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Last time he was here, he was dragging his arms
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: on the car, but I had to fucking hit him
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: with the rolled up newspaper. No, so I did catch
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: up with an old mate who had a face left.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about the Toyota eighty six baby. Oh yeah, yeah,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: it'd been wild. It had been a bloody hot minute.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: And you know, I always liked the Toyota eighty six's.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I always thought that were good cars. I mean I
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: preferred them over the subib z R or b Z
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: or whatever. But it is still just a brilliant, engaging,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: clean cut sports car. There's no rits about it. There's
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: no fluff, it's just it still has that two point
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: four flat four. When you look at these numbers, one
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: hundred and seventy four kilowatts, two hundred and fifty new
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: meters of talk zero to one hundred and six point
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: three seconds. On paper, they're not that impressive, but when
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: you drive this thing around, it proves that they don't
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: need to be. They're a perfect example of numbers don't
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: necessarily sell cars, and and that's.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: Why this and the stuff like the m X five
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Kindness still just work. People buy them because you know,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: they just do the job.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Oh what I mean, they're engaging, they're not a ton
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: of money. They fill the road so well, and they've
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: got they're almost intuitive to the driver the way they corner.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: They're just such a great car. They don't need to be.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: They don't need to have buckets of power. And as
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I said, yes, they're just clean cut, real will drive
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: the interior there is nothing. I mean, the one I
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: had had cloth everywhere, and I thought about that. I mean,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I guess a lot of people in that sort of
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: boy racer kind of group will take those seats out
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: anyway and chuck some sports seats in there. They're not
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: obviously electric seats or anything. But what a fucking great car.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Just a really fun car.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just one of the few examples of
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: just being able to just drive around and have fun. Yeah,
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: not have to spend a mega amount of money, No,
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: you know, and for a lot of people's that's important
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: at the moment, so why not.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, it's modest and honest. And at the
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: same time, I thought to myself, does this thing need
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: a turbo? And I don't think it does. I think
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: it would loser.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: And that's the thing they've resisted for so long out
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: of get turbo. And it's like, you just don't really
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: need it for that. If you want to go do it,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: you'll do it on your own, but you necessarily need it,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: And I think that's the that's the impressive part of it.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: And I think it still sounds pretty good too. You
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: could possibly add an exhaust if you wanted to, if
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: you wanted a more gutsier sound, but it probably doesn't
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: need it. I have, you know what, I even had
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: the auto and at the start, I know, no, I know,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: and I'm telling you now I got proven wrong, Like
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: it wasn't maybe look maybe for me because it was
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: a daily it was I was doing it in traffic.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is great, this is really good.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: And the paddle shifters they still work fine. M M
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: M eighty six. Baby, you're a stick gay, You're like
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: a bit of stick. Just throttle it, yeah, just really
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: onto it. It's are we still talking about car?
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Done with here?
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Now we're done without? Hey, Porsche mccahn, the EV. You've
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: the EV Porsche mccahn. You've had this for what a
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks now, and I'm keen to get your
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: thoughts on it because I remember at the launchers there
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: was some impressive stuff going on. The speed behind them
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: was good. And the McCann is an interesting Porsche because
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: it's the car that keeps Porsche going. It kind of
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: keeps the lights on. If you're like, it's the car
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: that kind of saved them back in the day, or
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: one of the cars that saved them back in the day,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: and we're in a new era now.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: I think they've made a critical error on that front.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: McCarn was something like half of their sales volume and
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: they killed the internal combustion one and gambled everything onto
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: this fully electric one with no other option. They have
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: come out as part of their last investor updates saying
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: that they're working on another internal combustion small suv which
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: they will give a different name to. It won't be
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: called a McCarn. And look, when I went to the launch,
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: I was sort of fairly impressed with it. You know,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: they were very smooth roads, and I thought, now, wait
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: till we get it back to Australia. And I guess
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: part of the problem I've got with this This is
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: a base McCarn. And unfortunately, for whatever reason, we let
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: one of our junior staff configure the car. And you know,
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: I just would never choose these options because of the
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: results of what this car is.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: I saw those options, like it's.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Got ninety thousand dollars of options on a car that
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: has a base prize one hundred and twenty or something,
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: which I just think is outrageous anyway, because my Carn
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: used to be a small stretch for someone from a
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Q five. Now it's this enormous leap, comes with nothing
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: standard and you look at the car and you're like,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: I could see where you've added maybe ten grand worth
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: of options. How did you get to ninety thousand dollars
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: in options. You know, he specs it with twenty two's
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: the performance tire option, which makes the car skip along
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: the road when you do like a tight U turn
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: in the cold, which is just entirely unacceptable. The ride,
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: it rides like a boat, it tramlines. It really is
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: just unimpressive in that spec What was.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: The what a color was interior? Was it like? It
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: wasn't red? Red? And it wasn't red.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: And this is the thing. We did a configure out
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: a challenge and our readers picked that one. So it
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: wasn't his full that he configured it that way, but
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: I would just I don't know why Porsche went ahead
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: with that, because this car, when you drive it, it's
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: just not impressive. So and all of that stuff adds
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: together to then affect the range as well. So I've
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: done a fair bit of driving in it, and I
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: wanted to see what the range would be like. So
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: it's pretty cold down in Melbourne at the moment. And
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: started off one hundred percent, did three hundred and seventy
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: k's battery got down to eighteen percent and was averaging
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: over twenty kilo what hours per hundred ks, and I'm like,
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: that is a lot for what is meant to be
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: a high tech, efficient expensive car too, So it means
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: that realistically you're getting four hundred k's of driving range
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: out of a battery, and this is marketed as having
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: over six hundred k's in that base, which is the
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: lightest configuration.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: So I don't know.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: To me, I just think that that they've missed a
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: trick with it, and.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: It's disappointing because they're a great car, the S, the
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: gts and like, they're all good.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: I'll see what it's like to drive another Speck, but
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: just for the mar Like, there is no way I'd
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: spend two hundred plus on roads on this particular car.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: And so hang on, let me just pause you there.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: So how much so you said this was a base car.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: How much was this going base before you added like
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: the ninety thousand worth of options to it? I think
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: it's like what one twenty something? Yeah, yeah, that is
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: a big step up from what the Q five.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So yeah, here we go. So starts at one
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: twenty eight four hundred, so pretty much one thirty plus
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: on roads, so it's jumped thirty three grand.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: And then you realistically turned it into a two hundred
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: and ten thousand dollars car.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Plus on roads. So two hundred and fifty k in
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: this thing, and I do not see it well even
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: the I'm going to pull the key.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Out, so you guys obviously round this experiment.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Give me a lot cheap? Does that look? So you
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: have to pay something like six or eight hundred dollars
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: to customize the key? Ah, that looks like just a base.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's plastic. Usually these are beautiful with the they
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: almost have a shellac coating on them, if you like,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: and they usually color them in the same car.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's a spare key for the car or something.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but it just that looks cheap.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I've never seen this before, like I've never seen one.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Look this cheap. Oh that's basic? Boys, shit, look at that? Yeah?
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: So has he got a fronk?
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Yes? Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Just just a bit
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: disappointed in the car even just interior space. Not much
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: room inside and if you want to buy it as
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: a family car, my daughter's seat in it, Like you
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: barely fit anything else.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: In the boot when you've got a pram in there. Yeah,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: not much leg room in the rear. They haven't improved
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: the boot room at all.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Just yeah, it's I don't know, really not that impressed. Unfortunately.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I know there caman ev is coming out soon, and
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I'm really hoping they don't fucking ass up that up that.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Up even that. It's like, why are you doing this?
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Who's asked you to do this?
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Your customers haven't. No, what are you doing it for?
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: I just find it really odd. It's a very poor
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: business decision, definitely, But I just hope it doesn't.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: I know them, they're trying to meet European emission standards,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: so aren't they. Yeah, I mean.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: They're meeting all their trading credits and stuff. But actually
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: here you go, so looking at their stock, I mean
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: this tells you everything you need to know at Porsche
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: is now publicly this company. Their stock over the past
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: year is down forty percent, So I think that that
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: kind of just tells you everything you need to know.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Your investors don't think it's a good idea any of
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: this stuff. And a lot of this downward activity started
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: end of last year, so it's just and then from
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: March this year onwards, it has just capitulated.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: If they literally were under the thumb from the EU.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: They should really be making that more public because let's
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: just say they've been having to sit on this for
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: at least let's say seven years. At that point they
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: could easily argue and go, what EV has just gone
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: ballistic apart from a Tesla. Well, that's actually I just
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: took myself out of that because seven years ago Tesla
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: was fucking booming.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: But if you want to compare it to other car
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: companies BMW, who's also publicly listed over the past year,
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: their share prices down thirteen percent. So yes, you have
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: a downward trajectory across all the companies, But thirteen percent
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: versus forty forty plus, I mean, that's a that's a
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: big difference, all right.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Question This one comes from Durant's construction the Big three
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: F one, fifty, fifteen hundred and Z one slash two.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Which one would you pick for your garage and why? So?
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Our choices are the F one, fifty YEP, the fifteen
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: hundred RAM YEP, and the Silverado. I'm guessing YEP, Z
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: one slash two.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: I'd be For me, it would be probably the Chevy
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: because I love the V eight. I know it's not
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: the fastest there, but it sounds great. The RAM fifteen
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: hundred of the new turbo charge c goes like shit
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: off a shovel. It is incredibly fast. So if he
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: wants the quickest pickup truck out there, that's it. The
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Forward I just think it feels pretty low rent. And
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: there is going to be a version of the F
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: one fifty the Platinum coming, which should definitely elevate things,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: so that should be here as part of a face leaf.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I want to say the F one fifty generally, they
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: are such an iconic, beautiful like you get a big
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: black one fifty. They are stunning. I had the Chevy
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Silverado over a couple of months over Christmas and I
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: loved it, loved it, So I'd be picking that. Yeah, okay,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I'd be picking that now. Two for the ship you
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: they've got a follow up question also also, is Pablo
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: keeping Donna in the back of the Shark six? Is
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: this why it can't get up the Heill?
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: No, it should help it because it would be a
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: lot more weight. You'd be at payload.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know about your payload. Thoughts on the twenty
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: twenty six Yen Day Palisade. Great question they're coming from
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Liam Leaf.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: God, it looks good, looks great, looks so bloody good.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: I think that yondy. The Santa Fe knocked it out
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: of the park in terms of interior. Looks so good.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: I think palis Abe will take it to another level.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: So I haven't driven it yet, but very much looking
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: forward to it.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I think the Santa Fe was three
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: quarters good on the outside. Yeah. I look the back
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: end and they've been on the roads for quite a
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: while now, that's sort of them. What's that you get
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: used to get used to them. They're fine. I think
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: they're a great looking car. They drive fucking so well.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: If you can get it with the Captain chairs spec
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: that would be my pick. That looks awesome. They know
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: how to make something right the last couple of years
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: they've proved that. I would I was thinking about the
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: twoson the other day. They should make an end version
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: of that. I know they've got their Genesis GV seventy Sport,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: which is Magma. Yeah, they kind of took that. Yeah,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: the Magma they took the I thought it was the
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: same as their Stinger engine and put that in there.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: But I would have loved to have seen that in
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: the two soon. They never did that. In fact, their
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: end products have been they've sort of been quiet on that.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know why they sell pretty well to tipc
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: But yes, thoughts on the new Palisade looks fantastic. I
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: think it's reasonably priced. It's kind of starting to creep
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: up there. I think they're starting to know what they've
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: really got. Yeah, what do you guys think of new
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: laws in Victoria for emergency vehicles on the side of
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: the road. Well, it's been a while since I've lived
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: in the Victorious. Yeah, pretty to this.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: The laws are not new for emergency vehicles. What they're
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: new for though, is sort of I guess you could
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: call them emergency vehicles as well. But stuff like RACV
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: tow trucks, the city link cars that get about the
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: place you are now required to slow to forty for
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: them as well. So in theory, this is a good
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: idea because you need to slow down around these vehicles
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: because there is a worker outside next to a freeway potentially,
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: and they need to go home to their families at
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: the end of the day. Where it doesn't work, though,
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: is when everyone most people don't know it's a rule.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Every time I see it, I slow down, and pretty
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: much no one else does, or a handful do. And
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: finally cotton on where it's an even bigger issue is
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: where you're on the Hume, where you've got enormous trucks
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: who cannot stop on a dime. So if people all
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: of a sudden remember this rule and jam the brakes on,
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: you can cause an almighty accident here. So it's one
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: of those things that needs to be a rule, but
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: it is a very difficult one because road rules and
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: driver education in Australia in general is fucked, so no
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: one knows it's a rule. So all you're going to
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: get is the police doing is sting one day, finding
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: all these people pissing people off. I just think that
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: it really comes back to driver education and people needing
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: to get a clue on what to do on the road,
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: even stuff like I'm just going to very quickly digress
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: here stuck in traffic on the way into work, and
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: what I always do is, depending on if I'm in
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: the adelane and we're crawling, I'll move over so there's
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: room for motorcycles to get through. Most people don't so
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: you've got a motorcycle that will have decent sized gaps
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: for people that move out of the way, and then
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: other people are just oblivious to this, and it's like,
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: why would you not just move a little bit? And
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: in Europe they all do that. They actually will have
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: a path, a full path for a vehicle to come
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: through an emergency services vehicle. Everyone instinctively does it. They
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: move right out of the way. But we don't do
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: that here. Again, it just comes down too terrible driver
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: training and.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: None relirements for it.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, why would you not be spending all
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: your speed camera revenue on proper drive training for everyone?
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean you just can't rely on people's
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: driving skills. Like I've got a maid of mine who
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: is a motorbike rider and he is in hospital right
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: now because he broke his pelvis. He was pulling out
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: of work and a fucking car came in and didn't
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: indicate and it just took him right out. Like he's
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: lucky to be alive. He's in a wheelchair at the moment. Wow. Yeah,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: it's one of those things with motorbike riders. I feel
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: for them because I don't think a lot of these
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: accidents are necessarily been caused by them. They've they've really
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: just got to look out.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: For other cars most of the time. They're not like
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: you get the occasional person riding like an idiot and
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: coming off, but typically they'll just kill themselves. Yeah, but
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: people who are just trying to get to work on
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: a motorcycle are just constantly battling idiot drivers who don't
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: know what they're doing.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Unpredictable ones too. Let's move to Gemma in Perth. Hey,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Gemma in Perth. What is your pick for the best
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: ev and the most reliable? Oh? What is your pick
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: for best and most reliable non EV hot hatch Ah,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say I'm going to take this one.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I really like the I thirty n Yeah.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: I literally was about to say I thirty en because
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: it's been around for ages, heaps of accessories, people know
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: what they're doing. Comes with the track warranty, but Sunday
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: are generally pretty good with warranty as well. Yeah, if
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: it's not really if you want something a bit more
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: up to date, the new Golfer they've just launched. It
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: is a big step up in price, but it is
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: a lot of car and comes with some pretty cool
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: tech and I think is probably the king of the
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: hot hatches.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Is that the Mark eight point five?
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I remember when the Mark eight came out,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I was like, I was really impressed that they had
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: the I think they had they had like a drift
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: mode on that. Why have diesels disappeared from the Australian
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: passenger car scene? From the Australian passenger car scene? Will
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: they ever come back? Yeah?
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: Diesels are an interesting one. There's not as many of
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: them in passenger cars until you step up to SUVs
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: and stuff. I think it's a trickle down from Europe.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: You've got this situation where in Europe they're less favored
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: because of the emissions that they have and they don't
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: solve the problems that they need in terms of hybridization.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: That most hybrids are internal combustion petrol instead of diesel.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: So as a result of we just don't see many
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: of those. You don't see many Chinese market cars with
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: diesel engines. They run a lot of petrol cars. So
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: I think you're just seeing a downscaling of where diesel's
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: being used. You will well and truly still see diesel
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: used in stuff like lan Cruise's Everest Ranger all that
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: sort of stuff for a little while yet, so it's
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: not dead just yet.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Last question comes from Gordon. A family car for under
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: eighty thousand dollars. Here you go, a bit of fun.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: This guy sounds like a pain. He's a pain in
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: the ass. What about I think we kind of flirted
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: with the idea of a Beamer M forty. I ye
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: used obviously, Yeah.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: M three forty. I think that would be cool.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or if you still look bad ass, they still
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: look still.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Very current, if you can get an X three M.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Forty I yeah, that's what I said. You know, I
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: thought you meant three series. Oh yeah, yeah, sorry, the
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: three series or the the X three as well.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: I think that they'd be my two picks. Fun sound good,
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: hopefully within.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Budget watch this space.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Maybe you put a deposit down next time.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be good.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: I just bought a oud E T t R s.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Ah Yeah did jh Yeah?
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, run run over it tho because I don't like it.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Actually, I'll tell you what happened to my phone, right, So,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: maybe I'll take a photo of this and we'll put
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: it on the cell shoals but what has happened with
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: this phone is it's it's massively crushed up the back.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: So I was going for a I was going for
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: a bit of a run, believe it or not with
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: my dog. No not, yes, someone chasing you. I was.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: I was running from the rspz A someone else's dog. Yeah,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: it's running from that. It's running from dinner.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: I have to run very fast.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: So no. So basically what was happening is I was
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: I stopped off. It was it was late at night,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: and there was actually funny enough. There was a Beamer
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: three series M forty I yep in a Kupra show
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: group like what do you call them? Dealer shit? Like, ah,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: that's cool. And it was this really nice blue and
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: that big pop and blue that they do. And so
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: I quickly sort of went over across a busy highway
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: to have a look at it, look at the price
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: all that. I could have just looked it up on carsoles. Anyway,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: I'm running back over this road and I'm like fuck.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: I had my headphones on and I'm sort of walking
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: in I could feel my phone had dropped out. I
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: was listening to the music and stuff, and I'm like, oh, fuck.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: I've dropped my phone and I'm looking on the nature
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: streep and I'm like looking all around. I didn't have
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: a light. It was pitch black, asked this poor dude.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, can you just light up your phone
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: so I can look for my phone? And we're both
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: sort of looking in the nature streep and couldn't find it.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: And then I said, would you mind calling it? I'm
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: really sorry. I can tell it's close because I can
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: hear the music playing through my headphones. Yeah, yeah, no worries.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: And he calls it and we're looking around. We're like,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: what the fuck, and then we look in the middle
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: of this highway and it's just flashing in the middle of.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: The high and it had been there, doubles.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: It had been there for a good five minutes with
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: cars running all over it. So I mean, like for
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: like five minutes worth of cars running over I ever.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: Seeing a camera that fucked Like every one of your
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: little camera lenses, yes, and again stupid designed by Apple
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: because they protrude. But every one of those camera lenses,
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: like carved in the whole back is shattered.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Thanks for that. I'm trying to sell this on marketplace. Yeah, no, look,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: I will get it fixed. It's the problem is it's
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: it's only two hundred bucks to get that thing fixed,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: but it's a forty five minute wait without my phone.
• 48:32
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• 48:34
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• 48:36
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