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Patriots Unfiltered 10/12: Previewing the Browns, RB Injuries, WR Moves, Wednesday Practice Update · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. Paul somehow remember who the third stream running
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  Speaker 1: him getting at I've watched four years of football with
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  Speaker 1: Paul now and like, you know, he gets it. And
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  Speaker 1: even though he might not build be like, well, this
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  Speaker 1: is a dolphin route here, you know, like like Paul
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  Speaker 1: superpower is just sounding convincing. He doesn't know. No, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's gonna be good. I think Max's gonna feast.
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  Speaker 1: I've been Max's gonna eat. Let Mackie. I have no
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  Speaker 1: idea picked him out of college. No, yeah, I was.
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  Speaker 1: He was on my board. McMillan. That's the kind of
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  Speaker 1: guy that would be on your board. Like his measurables
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  Speaker 1: Bailey's Appy's taken as a pro and he's been great
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  Speaker 1: as far as being fine. He hasn't been great as
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  Speaker 1: far as being fine. Like this is Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled
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  Speaker 1: by Duncan. All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday here at Gillette Stadium, and it's Deuce, it's Alex,
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  Speaker 1: it's Paul, it's me, it's Matt and the booth and
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  Speaker 1: we'll be here for the next two hours talking Patriots.
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  Speaker 1: Still still excited about that twenty nine nothing win. But
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  Speaker 1: we're turning the page to the Cleveland Browns today. Boy,
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  Speaker 1: yeah I saw them last year. Well boy, you say,
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  Speaker 1: oh boy, you're worried. Now. Fun, fun, fun, fun, Let's
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  Speaker 1: shut down this running game. Okay, I mean it's different
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  Speaker 1: than last far as being average. Oh hello Bill, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: let's you want to hear what Bill has to say.
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  Speaker 1: Let's do it all right, Sure, let's do it all right.
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  Speaker 1: Rolling in the Cleveland here. Um. You know, it's a
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  Speaker 1: really pretty impressive team to watch. Um. They have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of a lot of talent, a lot of a
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  Speaker 1: lead talent. Um, very well coached. Um. So some of
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  Speaker 1: the big challenge here, you know, all the way across
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  Speaker 1: the board. They're good and good in all areas, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, offensively, UM with a coach Stefanski and UM
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  Speaker 1: coach Callahan. This is a very very good, UM, very
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  Speaker 1: talented group and a very well well coached unit, especially
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  Speaker 1: in the offensive line, probably as good as anybody will see. Um,
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  Speaker 1: they really know what they're doing. UM. The fundamentals and
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  Speaker 1: techniques are are very good. We had trouble with them
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  Speaker 1: last year. Everybody has trouble with them. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: talent up front, UM Wills Tonio of course, Sake replace
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  Speaker 1: Tredder at the center, and he's got a lot of experience. Teller,
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  Speaker 1: Um Conklin. I mean, guys that have been all Pros,
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  Speaker 1: all Rookie Pro Bowls. I mean, you name it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's just a really really good group, UM that again
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  Speaker 1: really knows what they're doing and are are talented. UM.
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  Speaker 1: You know, some good receivers obviously Cooper another very high
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  Speaker 1: profile player, and Joku productive tight end you know after Ozzie,
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  Speaker 1: probably the best tight end of Browns I've ever had,
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  Speaker 1: which that's saying something. UM, you know, people's jones, so good,
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  Speaker 1: good skill players and obviously you know Chubbs is as
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  Speaker 1: good as anybody. We'll see the hunting. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: got I got a lot of backs and and they're
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  Speaker 1: all good, but Chubbs, Chubbs, he's tough. H Jcobe's playing well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a big strong kid that um compliments their offense. Again,
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  Speaker 1: this is a two hundred yards a game, rushing, twenty
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  Speaker 1: six points a game, whatever they score, and so they
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  Speaker 1: can move the ball thing, score points. They control the
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  Speaker 1: clock and keep their defense off the field. And again
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  Speaker 1: they're they're extremely well coached and very good fundamentally. Um. Yeah, Defensively,
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  Speaker 1: it's really one word. It's fast. Everybody's fast. Linebackers are fast,
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  Speaker 1: Secondary is fast, d lines fast, Garrett and clown Air.
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  Speaker 1: It's good at book ends as there are a lot
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  Speaker 1: of speed inside where whenever they're space, it doesn't stay
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  Speaker 1: space or very long. And they get it from the
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  Speaker 1: lineman pursuit. They get it from the linebackers, get it
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  Speaker 1: from secondary. Yet a lot of good players obviously Ward
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  Speaker 1: you know newsom Um Emerson's a high pick. Linebackers and
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  Speaker 1: Joka good good linebackers, very good, very good edge players,
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  Speaker 1: and they play, they play very fast, and they're very disruptive.
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  Speaker 1: So they're one of the top teams in the league
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  Speaker 1: in three and outs. They get your negative plays bitch
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  Speaker 1: in long yard each and you know then it's all over.
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  Speaker 1: So Um, you know, Clowney and Garrett is certainly cable
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  Speaker 1: of wrecking a game on any play running pass with
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  Speaker 1: They're explosiveness, speed, length, you name it, So very very
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  Speaker 1: dangerous on every play there. And you know in the
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  Speaker 1: kicking game, UM and Rogers getting the kicking and return
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  Speaker 1: game and boost um two big legs. Um. You know
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  Speaker 1: the field goals and punts, and they can they can
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  Speaker 1: change field position, knock the ball out of the park. Um,
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  Speaker 1: fifty eight yard field goal will be Carolina so or
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  Speaker 1: whatever it was. It's a long one halfway up the net.
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  Speaker 1: So it's I know what the leg is there, but
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  Speaker 1: it's a lot, you know, so well balanced in all
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  Speaker 1: the errors, very fast in their coverage. Seems they're you know,
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  Speaker 1: defensive players on defense, same guys in the kicking game.
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  Speaker 1: They're fast. They you got to get their speed or
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  Speaker 1: it's hard to getting they started. So really good, good
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  Speaker 1: all a round football team doesn't turn the ball over.
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  Speaker 1: Very fundamentally sound, very fast, explosive and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: a lot of talented players. So they've been challenged for
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  Speaker 1: us this week all the way across the boards. No
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  Speaker 1: no one guy that can stop stop their running game,
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  Speaker 1: No one guy that can block all the players that
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  Speaker 1: need to be blocked. You know, we're gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: play good, good team football, discipline the fundament as fundamentally
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  Speaker 1: sound as they are, and with good communication awareness for
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  Speaker 1: sixty minutes because they they can hit you on any play.
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  Speaker 1: Very very talent on the team in every game. I
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  Speaker 1: lost a couple of games to all close games and
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  Speaker 1: they're all every game has been close onwhere or the other. So, um,
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  Speaker 1: it's probably we should expect in what way? In what
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  Speaker 1: ways has recent complimented their skill positions? Yeah, well, I
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  Speaker 1: mean they have a great running game, play action passes.
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  Speaker 1: You know they're they're not in a lot of long
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  Speaker 1: yarded situations. Um. You know he does nice jobs stepping
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  Speaker 1: up in the pocket. Um just got in the ball
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  Speaker 1: to their their receivers, their skill guys, including Hunt. You
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  Speaker 1: know Hunt's got a lot of production in the passing
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  Speaker 1: game as well as he's probably got what three hundred
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  Speaker 1: years of Russian whatever it is. Um, a good decision
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  Speaker 1: making as a turn the ball over. So how much
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  Speaker 1: does he look similar to what you saw when he
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  Speaker 1: was here or how much has there been bros to that? Yeah? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean what's about the same. Do you think he's
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  Speaker 1: shrunk or gotten bigger? I don't know, night, We're all
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  Speaker 1: about the same. Yeah, I mean, Hcobe looks like Jacoby,
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  Speaker 1: you know, big kid's strong arm, you know, tough, smart,
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  Speaker 1: does a good job of you know with with the
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  Speaker 1: system that they're running, does a good job. It doesn't
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  Speaker 1: turn the ball over, get some scrambly yards, gets the
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  Speaker 1: ball to Cooper, people's hunt. Um, obviously in Joku so
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  Speaker 1: does a nice job of run of the offense. I
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  Speaker 1: mean they're scoring whatever, it's twenty six points a game.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's part of the quarterbacks job with the
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  Speaker 1: ball score points. People. Do you expect to have Mac
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  Speaker 1: Jones back this weekend? Um, we'll assume see what it's
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  Speaker 1: like today go from there. How similar are Bingley, Zappy
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  Speaker 1: and Mac Jones skill sets? Hasn't been an easy transition
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  Speaker 1: having him, Um, you know, to take the first naps.
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  Speaker 1: I practice a similar though I don't know, oh right
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  Speaker 1: handed exactly? Does how Bailey played against Lions last week.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty clean game overall. Um, change the timetable for bringing
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  Speaker 1: back back, maybe afford you a little more lenience on
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  Speaker 1: the back end of the pretty back back totally independent,
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  Speaker 1: I think no, but not anything to do. It. Is
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  Speaker 1: Mac the starter when he's ready to go, We'll see
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  Speaker 1: where is that? I don't know, but what you see
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  Speaker 1: from your rand, you means that far it's been inconsistent.
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  Speaker 1: A better moments goodn't been. Is it possible that Mac
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  Speaker 1: to be healthy enough to back up Bailey as you
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't started. I don't know. We'll see what kind of
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  Speaker 1: challenges creating. So yeah, everything again. But as I said,
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  Speaker 1: they're very well coached. Callahan does a tremendous job of
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line. Their fundamentals are good, their schemes are good. Um.
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  Speaker 1: They create opportunities for the backs, and then the backs specifically,
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  Speaker 1: Chuck does a lot on his own. He's very hard
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  Speaker 1: to tackle. He's got tremendous contact balance, playing strength, UM,
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  Speaker 1: good vision, good patience. He really sets up his blocks well.
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  Speaker 1: He gets the most out of every block, and then
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  Speaker 1: he's very hard to get on the ground. Um plays
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  Speaker 1: up a good ball security and as that explosive plays,
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  Speaker 1: gets a lot of tough yards, gets a lot of
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  Speaker 1: consistent yards. He's he's really good, and he's got a
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  Speaker 1: good group in front of him. And they absolutely know
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  Speaker 1: what they're doing. They they handled defensive challenges as well
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  Speaker 1: as anybody. Stunts, alignments, blitzays. I mean they they waxed
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  Speaker 1: us pretty good last year, especially early in the game. Um,
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  Speaker 1: so I said, we got to work it out for
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  Speaker 1: us coach, they had run a lot of two tight
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  Speaker 1: end sets on offense. Just what does that do to
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  Speaker 1: stress the defense? Especially? All right, Well, I think we
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  Speaker 1: got the essentials there. Evan's question, did you cut out
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  Speaker 1: right as Evan? Well, we're gonna have Evan ourselves get
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  Speaker 1: the answer that we can ask him. But uh, there's
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  Speaker 1: no way we win this game. I sound pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that, I mean, yeah, that was you know,
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  Speaker 1: like he always does that. But I mean, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: really he said the coaches two, Fred, your eyes lit
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  Speaker 1: up at that. I saw you, well coached some something
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  Speaker 1: he didn't say last week of the opponent. Um, but
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  Speaker 1: he really laid it on thick today. Huh. And and
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  Speaker 1: you know, listen, we talked about it yesterday. Teams know
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  Speaker 1: that Cleveland has to run. Yet they are still averaging
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety yards a game. That's ridiculous. So
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  Speaker 1: there's you know that's not nobody's held them under one
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  Speaker 1: seventy I mean the lowest was Pittsburgh one seventy one,
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  Speaker 1: right in two seventy one, seventy seven and two thirty. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so it's not like one game they had four hundred
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  Speaker 1: yards and that skewed it. They're doing this against everybody,
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  Speaker 1: and they and like I said, the teams know that
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  Speaker 1: they have to run the ball, but Jacobe prict as
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  Speaker 1: their quarterback, and yet they're still leading the league in it.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, between the offensive line and Chub and
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  Speaker 1: who's the other guy, I forget, uh Hunt, Kareem Hunt.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's a that's a powerful attack. And the
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  Speaker 1: Patriots are going to have their work cut out of,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for them stopping the runs, something that you
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  Speaker 1: know they've yet to prove that they can do consistently. Yeah. Um,
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  Speaker 1: so that you know, therein lies the challenge I think
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  Speaker 1: for the Patriots. I think like the close game stuff
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  Speaker 1: too that that Bill highlighted. I mean, every you know,
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  Speaker 1: all the games. I mean I think it's like some
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  Speaker 1: like six points that might have, you know, been the
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  Speaker 1: difference in like their three of their losses. So every
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  Speaker 1: game is close. You're right on last week, right, and
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  Speaker 1: that weight. It's all all right down to the end.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean I think, you know, we we make
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of fun of Jacoby Brissett, like, but
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  Speaker 1: I think he's, Yeah, he's done a head job. He
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  Speaker 1: hasn't lost. I mean, he's competing sixty five percent of
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  Speaker 1: his past. Yeah, he's not just going to be. But
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  Speaker 1: I think he's made some He's made some throws, he's
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  Speaker 1: kept them in games. Yeah, you know, it hasn't just
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  Speaker 1: been all the run game and he's alone for the right.
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  Speaker 1: Certainly run games a big part of it. But you
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  Speaker 1: know he's he's made some throws and he hasn't killed
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  Speaker 1: them with mistakes, so um, you know they're They're The
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  Speaker 1: thing I keep looking at though, is is essentially the
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  Speaker 1: same defenses last year and the Patriots basically scored on
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  Speaker 1: every possession except one. Right, So I mean Miles Garrett
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, not not quite all the way back
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  Speaker 1: from his accent a couple of weeks ago. So that's
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  Speaker 1: kind of what I'm looking at, Like, I know what
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  Speaker 1: Bailey's Appy's a rookie, but at that point Mac Jones
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  Speaker 1: wasn't much farther along the Yeah, even he was. So
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  Speaker 1: if if their running game is the challenge, their defense
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  Speaker 1: is the opportunity, Yeah, you know, get the But I
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  Speaker 1: mean it's the same thing on on our side of
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  Speaker 1: the ball, get the get running, and you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it would be the fastest game in the
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  Speaker 1: NFL so far this year. I love it. I mean
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  Speaker 1: last week's game was quick too. I thought, even with
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  Speaker 1: the injury, it seemed like we were already on the
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  Speaker 1: radio show before four o'clock, which is crazy. But um,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, I just I really wonder if they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be able to kind of do the same thing to them.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean it was a weird game because going
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  Speaker 1: back and looking at it this morning, you know, Cleveland
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  Speaker 1: went right down the field on him kind of the
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  Speaker 1: first drive and scored a touchdown and that was it.
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  Speaker 1: Next possession, the Patriots score, then Baker Mayfield throws a pick.
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  Speaker 1: They score again on the very next play after the pick,
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  Speaker 1: and it's fourteen nothing and then before you know it,
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the game, it's forty five to seven.
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  Speaker 1: So can they can they do something similar to what
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  Speaker 1: they did to the defense there. I mean, of course,
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  Speaker 1: it's a huge part without hunt um And and Chubb
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  Speaker 1: last time. I mean that was that was huge not
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  Speaker 1: having them, and they basically got away from the run
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  Speaker 1: after that first drive and then they were chasing. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the game can unfull. Well, I mean, I think it's
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  Speaker 1: a kind of thing which team gets the lead and
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  Speaker 1: forces the other team out of their comfort zone of
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  Speaker 1: being able to run the ball. Yep, yep, quick start. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: every team wants to do it, but it's easier said
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  Speaker 1: than done. Yeah. So the other you know, item that
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  Speaker 1: comes out of it is the questions about Mac. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: Bill was noncommittal as to when he thinks Max is
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  Speaker 1: going to be back, but you know, he kind of
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  Speaker 1: also skirted the question about when Mac is ready, is
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  Speaker 1: he the starter? You know, he didn't give a definitive yes,
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  Speaker 1: And I answered a different question. Yeah. I just remember
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  Speaker 1: back in the day, you know, after that Kansas City
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  Speaker 1: debacco where Brady was basically benched for Garoppolo that night,
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  Speaker 1: and somebody mentioned it in the post game, and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Bill I didn't want to mention, but Bill just kind
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  Speaker 1: of laughed at him, you know, saying, you know, how
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  Speaker 1: could you even ask that question? That wasn't the same
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  Speaker 1: reaction yea? To me, it is like to me Mac,
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  Speaker 1: when Mac is ready, he'll be the starter. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's that simple right now. Now. I guess if
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  Speaker 1: for some reason Max's injury got elongated, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know, he tweaked it in practice and
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  Speaker 1: he was at another five weeks, and in those five weeks,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Zappy is just hot as hell. Okay, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I can, I can draw up any hypothetical and not
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  Speaker 1: any scenario, but everything being even match is starting quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: That's in my opinion. Yeah, I know, I know a
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: lot of Patrios fans don't share that opinion. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure why everything He was the shiny new toy last
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  Speaker 1: year and everybody like Billy, Zappy comes in and you know,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't sink the ship immediately, and everyone's like onto the
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  Speaker 1: next thing. I don't want to say everyone, some single people,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean I think that the people who are
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  Speaker 1: realistic about this and watch the games and have watched
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  Speaker 1: Mac Jones, know, like, look go back and look at
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  Speaker 1: how Mac Jones looked against this Brown's defense last year.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, if Bailey's appy looks like that and he's
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  Speaker 1: throwing you know, dimes up the seam to Kendrick Bourne
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  Speaker 1: and nice little touch to Hunter Henry coming out, you know,
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  Speaker 1: on the on the up and out like you know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, those are the things that Mac Jones is
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  Speaker 1: capable of that we haven't seen from Bailey's Appy. And
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I feel bad because I don't, like, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: you're either one side or the other right now, and
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  Speaker 1: you can't just be like, I'm really happy for what
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  Speaker 1: Zappy has done. See what it did there? Yeah, not
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  Speaker 1: on purpose, um, you know, happy to see what he's done.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm not on the illusion
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  Speaker 1: that this that that all of a sudden he's way
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  Speaker 1: better than Mac and Mac. But I will say this though,
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  Speaker 1: I do like that Mac has probably feeling a little
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: bit like knowing how he is. He's here in the talk,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, and it's not true like and the people
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  Speaker 1: who know no. But at the same time, I think, well,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: it's it's how he's got to be aware. How does
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: he handle that heat? Does it make him better like
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  Speaker 1: it did Brady that year with when they drafted Garoppolo
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  Speaker 1: and he you know, ended up. I think he did.
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  Speaker 1: It was he MVP that year? I'm not sure, but
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  Speaker 1: he had an amazing season and you know seasons after that. Um,
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  Speaker 1: how does he handle it? Does he fold under the
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  Speaker 1: pressure or does he elevate under the pressure. Does he
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: stop making the mistakes? I think that, you know, when
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: he gets back, that's that's what I look for. Does
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: he not make the ill advised you know pass attempts
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: that we that we saw that were picked off, and
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: you know, there were too many of those where it's like,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: oh God, he threw it right to him, like those
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: things have to go. And like I said yesterday, I
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: really do believe though, you know, have with the offense
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: having to go through two games without him and having
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: to get back to fundamentals and you know, make sure
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: they don't make stupid mistakes. I think Mac comes back
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: to a better offense than he left, you know, so
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: a more confident one hopefully. Um. You know, we talked
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: a little bit out yesterday. I don't I'm not sure.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly how it translates where I still
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: know how you know, it's a new boy. We could
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: say that it's a New Bay back coming back in
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: and you know, there are elements that I think that
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: the offense probably feels better about right now than they
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: did when Mac went out. But well, at the same time,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: maybe in protection, what's that? Certainly the protection. Yeah, the
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: protection's better. That's only, you know, because the protections better
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: because you're not throwing the ball. Then you're not throwing
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: it as much. Non there and long really, but you know,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: the run blocking, I'm good, you know, so I'm I'm
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited now to get Mac back. I mean,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I want that to happen, obviously, because I'm with Mike.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: I don't really think there's much of a comparison between
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: the two. But I'm just I'm not as like, I
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: don't think they played any better offensively Sunday than they did,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: say in against Baltimore. I don't. I think for what
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: they were being asked to do, I think they did. Okay, Yeah,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I would like to do what the coach said when
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: he was talking about Jacoby Brissett. Moved the ball and
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: score points. That's what I want. Yeah, well they didn't.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: But is that because of the OFFENSI itself or Zappy? Yeah? Both, Well,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: what they asked Zappy to do. Yeah, now, I believe
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: they asked Zappy to do that because that's all they
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: believe that he can do. Right now. No, that's no
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: shot at him. No, he's been in the league for
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: twenty minutes, right, So, like you're gonna ask him to
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: hand the ball off, and like Mike said, you do
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: not want to ask him to drop back on third
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: and ten and starts singing in around the yard. That's
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: not going to work. They are asking Mac Jones to
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: do that, that's right. They're not afraid to throw the
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: ball on third and twelve with Mac Jones, which is
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: why you're getting some mistakes, that's right. I also think
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: the mistakes have been a little bit, a little bit,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: not a lot, a little bit overblown like turnover Machine.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I think that's a little harsh on Mac. And you
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: guys know that I'm not completely sold that Mac is
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: the be all end all right, but I've heard more
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: comments in the last week and a half negatively about
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Mac than I've heard in the previous year plus. Oh,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I agree, and he didn't like he hasn't played the
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Boo birds are out, but he hasn't played. Yeah, like
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: the negativity came after he stopped playing. Oh yeah, as
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: soon as they saw somebody you know come in and play.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I just can't Yeah, exactly, I can't even get into
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: it because it's not even it's not even an apples
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: to apples comparison. You know, they're not being asked to
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: do the same thing. You know, So, like you said, dudes,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: maybe in this game they open it up a little bit.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but let's remember what Mac did to
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: this defense last year. Yeah, you know, I mean probably,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's best game, but but definitely
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: some of his best throws. It's If it wasn't his
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: best game, it was one of the top three, I
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: think it was his best game. I think he made
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: more throws that were impressive in that game than in
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: any other. That more that I would say, like looking
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: back at the game, plays that stuck out in my
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: mind over the course of the season, like remembering that
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Burn throw, remembering that Hunter Henry throw, like memorable strides.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: It was so easy. It looked so easy that game.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, I was like the born one and he
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: just threw up between two guys. It was like, what
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: is going on right now? They're just they're dealing. So
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: you know, I we'll see, We'll see what he's able
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: to do. And you know, is is Stevenson able to
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: get going or you know, do they they just sell
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: out to stop Stevenson? And you know, I think it's
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: worth wondering too, or the Patriots can be able to
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: get complimentary performance from one of their other running backs.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: And I actually another little nugget I caught Brown's last
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: year was the last time J J. Taylor actually played
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: like six carries for like eleven yards. But that was
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the last game action that JJ Taylor interressing. I did
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: not know them. So maybe maybe it's lining up again
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: for him to get back out there. I think a chance.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I think they need some complimentary play. I don't I
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: struggle imagining a game plan where it's just Romander Stevenson
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: was a whistle campy, but that's like what is it
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Harris or Pierre Strong too? You know, yeah, Like, well,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like they're going to run the ball, yeah,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Like I think even if Matt comes back and plays,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: they're going to run the ball predominantly. This is a
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: bad run defense. Yeah, so I think that part of
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: it lines up perfectly for what you need because they're
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: so bad against the run back to back weeks. Um,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: did you guys talk about the Jeremy Fowler comment? No? All, Um,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: he on ESPN he had a thing, small little item
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: buried in his game recaps, I guess, and he just
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: said that Mac has a decent chance to play. I
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: think was the word this week, and he it was.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: He made it even last week. He made it interesting, Um,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: whether or I was gonna play, which I'm just kind
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: of stating that I want to look it up so
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I can I can write it perfectly. I'm gonna state
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: the facts or what he said, and then I'll you know,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you necessarily what I think of the report itself. Um,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily sure. I look at it the same way. Um,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: But do you think he has I mean, I said
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: a foregone conclusion that he doesn't play this week? What
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: do you guys think? I'm not quite there yet, but
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I based on what I saw of him at practiced
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: last Friday, like I still think it's It's like it
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: wasn't he said he made it interesting last week. It
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: wasn't close last week. Like anybody that watched these videos
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: that they're showing now on the Sports Hub. It thinks
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: that guy was remotely close to playing in an NFL game.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I suppose guys have played worse
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: than that, but I don't see why you would want
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: a guy playing looking like that. Right, Paul, I found
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: has a decent chance to play. Right, He told his
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: progressed and even made last week's decision to go with
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Bailey Zappy interesting, Jones is dealing with a high ankle sprain.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. If Jones is healthy, he's the quarterback.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Zappy hours agree. Yeah, listen, I give him a chance
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: to play this week. But that's good because that's that's
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: exactly the words. So I'm glad that that Alex found that.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I will before I say he's got no shot or
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: he's definitely playing, I'll reserve judgment when Evan comes in.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: We'll see what he looks like today. We'll get the
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: pictures today and then, but we're not going to know.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I don't think he'll play this week. Yeah, but I
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: don't know. You could watch him on the practice field
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, wow, he looks like a thousand times
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: better than he did last week. I also find it interesting,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: and this is no why would you show that the
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: media is there. This is no disrespect to it because
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: if he's trying to get ready to play, you're trying
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: to get ready to play, but you're not gonna limp. No,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I know, but you don't have to limp. But he
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: didn't he you know, like, we're not going to know
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: from what the media sees whether he's ready. No, I
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: want to see him moving. Okay, last week he couldn't move. Yeah,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: he looked like he I think Mike used the term
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: winced as he threw when he landed, like almost like
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: he was wincing. He just he doesn't want to push
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: off on the balls of his feet, on his feet.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: If I see that again, I'm gonna say he's not playing.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: But if I see him bouncing around a little bit
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: more and not looking like he's favoring it, then maybe
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I'll say, well, what if they tell him don't bounce around?
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: It's the media's card. I'm serious. It's down to that level,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: like he's either going to play. But if if he's
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: gonna play, you gotta let him try to get ready. No,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: but if you're planning for Zappi or Hoyer much difference.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: But if you're planning for Mac or Zappy, I think
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: there's a big difference in how you go about planning
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: for that game. I mean, I think either way you're ready,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: You're ready for the run, and it's just a question
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: how much you're gonna really feel threatened by the potential
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: of the deep pass. I think that for me would
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: be the kind of key turning point of how you
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: know how much deep coverage are we gonna need, especially
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Thornton's getting into that. To me, it's just more about
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: the volume. They'll throw the ball more often with Mac
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Jones than they will would Zappy. I don't think there
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: was a whole lot of difference in what they asked.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: What about fifty fifty balls and stretch zone. I thought
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: they threw a handful of fifty fifty balls last week
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: and they resulted in penalties against the other team they
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Like I said this yesterday, that's true. That was part
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: of their offense. Like I know, everybody says, did you
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: see Zappy put the ball in Harm's way? Did Yeah?
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I actually I saw him throw three that I could
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: think of off the top of my head. Yeah, it's true,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: two to Parker and one to Thornton. Yeah, and two
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: of them resulted in penalties. Yeah. I mean, I'm not
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: telling you that we're going to design this so get
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: a penalty on this play. But they did throw a
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: couple of fifty fifties. They did none. All three of
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: those guys were covered. They were not open. No, that's true.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: And he just threw the ball up and he gave
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: his guy a chance to make a play, right, Yep, yep,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: that's true. Five five Pats five hundred is the a
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: sticket hut line web radio at Patriots dot com. Is
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: the email address A small transaction today? Months and again. Yeah,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: this guy's gone back and forth between the Dolphins like
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: three times, like he was here, then he was there,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: then he was here, then he was there, and now
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: he was back here again. There were months that run
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: months and uh some more. Linebacker death. I mean, I
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I shudder to think that this might have anything to
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: do with the defense. I don't want to think that
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: at all. I just think this is so please some
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: sort of special teams move, maybe for like the Harvey
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Longie of at all the Union extra special teams linebacker. Um,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: but if he's playing linebacker snaps. Okay, so let's look
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: at it. You know, it could be just he was available,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: we bring him back, you know whatever. But what if
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: it is a special teams thing and they're looking at
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: the coverage and like we need to infuse a little
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: bit something into this coverage team. I mean it's possible.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, dug Dugger kind of claimed responsibility on that
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: long return get out. Yeah yeah, even special teams nonsense.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Remember I said, I said that yesterday it looked like
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Dugger got caught inside on play. Yeah. Yeah, he he
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: confirmed that. Wow. I usually don't. I usually get I
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: usually get my diet pepsi's during special team sport. But
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's taking those guys out. I mean
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: they've got their plates full anyways. Yeah, maybe it's like,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: all right, let's get Duggar out of there. You know,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: he's got enough to do on defense and we'll bring
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: somebody else in. I don't want Dugger off of those
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I think he's one of the best tacklers on the team.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah he is. I want him out there. He needs
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: a message stuff blowing unless he gets pinned inside. Yeah,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, anybody can make a mistake. Mistakes
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: aren't acceptable, hear, Paul. It's a little different when a
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: frontline player makes a mistake, as opposed to maybe Hobby
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: LONGI was involved in some of those earlier. And that's
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: all he's there for, right, you know, And I'm not
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: saying that that's what happened for all I know, he
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: was fine and they just decided to move on. You
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: have one job, right, yeah, little little depth, but I'm
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: not sure what exactly. So that fiels the practice squad though, right,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: that does for the current moment, which I think a
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: lot of people thought, yeah, little Jordan would would land back.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: That was where I was. Yeah, he's gone, Yeah did
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: he get did he get signed? I don't know. We're
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: kind of waiting to see. Oh yeah he's still out there,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: but he's been released, released him off the roster. But
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people just assumed he would
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: resign with the practice squad, okay, and then they filled
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: the practice squad spot with Ken, So now it's easy
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: to create another spot. I'm not saying, but he's out there.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Anyone can sign, can sign him right now? Yeah, I mean,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe they promote JJ or Kevin Harris, one
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: of those two up to the active roster and then
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: they've got another spot. Rights, So was there an opening
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: on the fifty three right now? But no, there I
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: don't think there should be, not at the moment. Okay,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: So they'd have to do another movement in order to
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: get bring somebody up. Haven't checked my numbers, Yeah, okay, no,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean they're going to have to bring
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: at least one, if not two running back acts up. Yeah,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: it is an open spot. There is no one spot
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: right okay, okay on the roster. Yeah, yes, yeah, okay,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: so maybe Kevin Harris time, perhaps J J. Taylor as
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: long as we have more than one active running back
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: this time. I mean, whoever it is is kind of
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: stepping into a favorable situation. Like I mean, if you're
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: a Pierre Strong or Kevin Harris in your first game,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: you're you know, you know, we got Ramondre to take
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: the bulk of it, but you're gonna get some softened
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: up defense. Yes, you're going up against I mean, the
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: keying on you. But at the same time, there there
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: could be some opportunities for you know, a new guy
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: to kind of have a nice game and maybe stand
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: out well. Listen, I'm excited about this game in you know,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: can the Patriots defense once again rise up and stop
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: a team that's very high up in the rankings, you know,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: when they run the ball, you know, and if we
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: if you can hold them to around one hundred yards
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: or something, that's a job well done. Yeah, excellent performance. Yeah.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, assuming the game doesn't get out of hand. Yeah,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: and they have to pass. Yeah, if they if they have,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: if they were allowed to run for four quarters and
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: they only get one hundred yards, that's a good job
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: by the run defense. Yeah. Yeah, I mean that's about
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: half away. It's the other thing. It's like, you know,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: everybody's like, well they only get up twenty seven to
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: green bait while they average sixteen. Yeah, like that's not good.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Just like, yeah, one hundred yards might not sound great defensive,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: but they average two hundreds, So that's unbelievable, right, I mean,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: if they stop them to one hundred yards, that would
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: be a really good effort. The game that scares me
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: is the Colts game from last year, because I think
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: that's you know, not a great quarterback, but Jonathan Taylor
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: and a ground game that kind of just made it.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: That's true, they were kind of powerless to counter that one.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: So that's the concern. But I I don't know. I
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: feel pretty confident about this game. We're not coming off
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: a bye this year. Yeah. And it's not indoors tonight,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: you know, it's always they're not pumping in. They turn
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: the heat in and the COVID and the music, right heat,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: COVID music. Yep, all right, A five five Pats five
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: hundred is the A ticket hut line web radio at
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Patriots dot com is the email address anything around the NFL,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: and we need to talk about I'm just seeing uh
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: still the Adams thing is Adam slingering out there Kansas
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: City him. The more I watch it, the more the
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: guy I think God exactly what he wanted. I think
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: he walked in front of him on purpose and kind of.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, you can't be paid, you can't shove him
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: and knock him over. He's gonna get at the very least,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: he's gonna get heavily fined. Yeah, he could get suspended.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Do you think he do you think the guy who
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: gets pushed gets some money out of out of him?
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I hope not. I know he's like that seems like
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: a calculated thing if mister Duggan from the Brady Bunch. No,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it definitely was watched in front of
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: him on purpose. I put my that's that's my opinion
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: of it. I think, well, I don't know. I think
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: the guy had his head down and yeah, yeah, and
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: he knew he was there down on purpose. He definitely
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: wanted to jump in front to get him, but I
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: don't think he realized how close he was to him. Yeah,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: and then he looked up in and Adam shoved. I
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: think he put his head down on purpose. Yeah, that
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: willfully ignorant. What is the way I would describe it
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: was he had to actively think about it. Wasn't it
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: wasn't cool, but he had no idea he was there
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: until he hit him. He had his head I mean,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Adams had his head down and the guy get up
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: and he just pushed him. I totally agree with Alex.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: You can't just push the guy down. It was ridiculous.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: It was a ridiculous reaction. Yeah, so that's going on. Yeah,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: it sounds like Dak's going to be be back potentially,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: um Skylar Skylar is gonna start for for them. Yeah,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: sounds like Tyreek is gonna be okay. Interesting times in
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: the AFC. I don't really understand the whole thing in Miami.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I don't really understand what's going on. He didn't have
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: a concussion, but he's still in concussion protocol, Like, I
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: don't understand that. Yeah, I think they're getting royally screwed,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: the Dolphins. They probably has the post of children for
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: concussion and that's what happened. Yeah, yeah, all right, let's
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: get off. The quote that's getting is the one that
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: really stuck out to me was the totally independent quote
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: from Bill. Did you guys say too that? Really? No?
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: The totally independent what you know? Does Zappy's performance have
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: anything to do with you know, does that allow you
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: more time to wait before Mac? And he said that
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: they're totally independent. That tells me when Max, when Mack
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: is healthy, he will play regardless. I wish he would
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: just say it. Um, all right, let's get to the phones.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Patty's an agawam. What's up? Patty? Hey, sorry about to
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: cut out yesterday. Guys. Um, I know there's a lot
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: of love for that be going on, but took me
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: in camp McLennan. Um, so, I just had sort of
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: a big broad question. I looked at the schedule today
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: and there's there's a couple of things that we're in
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: the offensively and the two biggest thing we saw him
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: was Mack was in there and when Bailey's Appy was
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: in there. Do you think, um, there's enough talent found
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: this team to sort of but few what we saw
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: last year, like towards the you know, the final stretch
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: of the year where they would get out the slow start.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Do you think if if they can't clean up the
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: issues that they're having on third down and more specifically
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: in the red zone, that are we are we going
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: to be able to win some of these games down
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: the stretch. I mean, I think it's a lot like
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: last year. I think you're totally right about the starts, um,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: And that's what I'm waiting for is when can this
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: team get over the hump? And you know, you're right,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: they don't have, you know, all the dripping with talent
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: a lot of the teams do. But I think they're
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: good enough. It's just you know, it's just tough. I
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: haven't seen them beat a real good team or as
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: kind of we were talking about the last show in
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: the postgame just getting behind and having like the adversity
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: and thinking like, man, they are going to lose today,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: and then have them turn it around and pull it out.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Like I just think that's a sign of a a
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: young team that's starting to grow. I'd even just to
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: see them get off to a good start against a
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: good team and see, you know, even when they're even
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: in favorable conditions against a good team, how does it look? Right? Yeah,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: And I'll even take like it. I'll even take a
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: cheap win over a team like Buffalow or Miami Is
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: down the stretch of the year. I mean, I know
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: last year's Buffalo game was kind of the cheap win
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: too because of the conditions. But I mean, I just
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: want to see the team makes the playoffs again more
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: than anything. I just I mean, I don't know how
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: you like look around the league of what's going on
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: and you look at like the Raiders or you know,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: one and four and I'll give you another one, okay,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: right there? For standings, twenty of the thirty two teams
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: are either three and two or two and three, and
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: that includes the Culture or two two and one. Twenty
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: out of thirty two teams are thoroughly average. Yeah, so
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: it's it's there for them. I just they've got to
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: they've got to be able to beat the good teams.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Otherwise I feel like it's it's gonna be similar to
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: last year. They're gonna make a push. They'll probably want
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: a good chunk of games here in the middle, and
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: then you know, those games against Buffalo and a lot
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: of these games are gonna come down to to you
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: a point, Mike, you know. Okay, so it's Cleveland, it's Chicago,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: it's the Jets. I think that most people think that
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: the Patriots should win most, if not all, of those games. Okay,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I think this will be the toughest one out of
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: the ones in that stretch Cleveland. Um, but then it's
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: gonna come down to you know, you play Minnesota, who's available,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: who's available for you, who's available for them? You know, Arizona,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: same thing, the Raiders, same thing. You know, Like, if
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: everybody's healthy and you go into it, those games can
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: go like Fred's. Those are fred Coin flip games. Those
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: can go either way. But if you know DeVante Adams
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: is down, you probably should win that game. Conversely, if
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: you know Mac Jones is down again and you have
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: to play with you with Zappy, You're probably gonna lose
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: that game, you know, Like that's I think, what are
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: you looking at for those games? You know? Cincinnati another
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: one of those games. If they're all healthy, you're going
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: to be a hard press to win that game. Yep,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: let's go to Matt in Ohio. What's up, Matt? Hey?
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: How you guys? Don good? Matt? Whereabouts in Ohio? Are
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: you buy Cleveland or Cincinnati? Neither? I'm actually and uh
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: I work in Toledo, Ohio. Okay, all right, West, Okay, yeah, Hey,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: well I wanted to touch on a few things today,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: But first I want to say that you your guys,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: this show is just fantastic. You've You've made me a
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: better Patriots fan than I love listening well now now
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: forty weeks, I'm always super excited to hear your show.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: So thank you for doing what you guys. Thank you.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Fred les to tell people how they should root for
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: the team. So that's good that that his lessons have
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: been learned. That's right. Yeah, yeah, Paul, He's always calms
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: me down after a bad game or you know, a
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: hot take on Felgrin. Matt to hear that one right,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: he calm, calming influence. He calms you down after a
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: bad game and brings you down after a good game.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Right even even keel, thank you God forbid you have fun.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: You're the one who's anti fund to bid you celebrate
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: a turnover? Yeah, no pictures, Mike and Fred will throw
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: you out of the league being happy to poor Kyle
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Dugger scoop and score, and he wants to celebrate in
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: the end team. No, no, don't do that. All of
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: a sudden, it's Swan Lake in the end zone. Don't
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: have fun, dany Oh my god, look at that choreograph celebration. Sorry, Matt, No,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: you're okay. That's why I love with you. Guys are hilarious.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Good And then the Cats twenty two with Eric and
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: or Evan and Alex. It's great, so cool. Yeah, they'll
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: be on after this. He'll tell him to keep up
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: the good job when he comes on. Yeah, he'll be on.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: He'll be on here shortly. And then yeah, episode two
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: this after Yeah, Yeah, I love it, love it. Great job. Um.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: But for the the last email on the yes on
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: yesterday's show was you guys were talking about doing the
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: video podcast? Yeah, and I don't. I mean it sets
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: up to you guys. I don't really I thought about
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: it a little bit. The problem with the video for
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: when it's live is, uh, when I try and listen
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: during the day, I can't lock my phone because I'm
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: working at the same time as I listened. So that's
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: the only that's my only like ding against that. But
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I've obviously just listened to it on Spotify after it downloads.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: But um, but I would love would be if Paul
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: and Douce do actually game broadcast. That would be fantastic
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: an alternate game broadcast. Yeah, just do the just do
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: the Manning Manning cast, do you guys, just do Paul
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: dou Yeah, we we we would do something like that seriously,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: but we're not allowed to. Yeah. The league, Yeah, Fred,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Fred has thought about that. Fred and I year back
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: with Andy, like and all I could think of is
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: the Mystery Science Theater, the alien. Well, that works well
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: for you. You got the smaller head the et you know.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: It's just like Andy would block the screen and it's
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: like spot, Well, we appreciate it, Matt, keep listening getting
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: some nice appreciate that, some delightful callership. Bill's in Oklahoma, family, Hey, Bill, family,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, how are ya doing good? Good? Thank
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: you good. I have a couple of questions for you guys.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Um is I know again? Coach was very ambiguous about
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Max's return, and I was looking at the schedule for
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: the next four weeks. What are the chances they would
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: leave him out until after the bye? Is he healthy?
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: How do we know? Yeah? I think my point is
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: if he's hell, he's coming back. Yeah. If he's not,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: and he'll be out to the body, yeah. The only reason,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: and I agree with Paul, the only reason they would
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: hold him out is he's not one hundred percent. And
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: that's why I fixated on that quote. They're totally independent
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: what happens in the games. They're not going to rush
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: him back if they lose Sunday, if he's ready to
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: go and play the following week, he'll he'll play whin
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: or lose Sunday. I honestly believe that. I don't think
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: that Bill will rush him back. Now. I'm not telling
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: you he's not coming back until he's one hundred percent. Yeah,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: till he will come back before he's completely what he
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: can do everything he needs to do right and which
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: includes running, you know, away from pressure. Then when he
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: can do that, he should play and he will play,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: you know, Okay, Yeah, that's what I mean. That's my feeling,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: and I agree with Paul, but that's just our opinion, right,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know what Bill's thinking. Yeah, it's the high
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: ankle spraining. You just you just cannot risk him. I mean,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: knowing how close to the ads we are on so
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: many different fa to the game, I would air on
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: the side of caution because if you reinjure that high
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: ankle sprain, history says that it's going to be an
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: extended amount, including potentially the season. So I agree that
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: I agree with you saying not rushing name back. But
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: if he's ready, he's ready. But and I trust the doctors,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: but I also know there's a fine line of going.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I know he's very, very he's a strong guy and
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: he wants to play, but at the same time, going,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: you tweaked this. It could be multiple weeks again, Bill's right, Yeah,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, I do think it's a fine line that
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: you walk there, Yeah, trying to determine it. And I
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: know Mac is pushing, right, that's I see no other
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: reason why he'd been out in the practice field the
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: last two weeks. He wants to get out there. That's
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: gotta be Mac. Yeah, speaking about there, guess who just
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: walked in? Terrible bighead? What's up? Andy? Got time to kill?
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: I guess? Uh yeah, Unfortunately like four hours until Walker room.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: You look like you don't like the City edition stuff.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Oh that's what it is. Evolution of the light cut
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: off are phenomenal. Bill started that all. Then he I
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: prefer to go to James Devlin. Such a bus So
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: what do we got any in your opinion? Oh? Right?
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Can I ask you? Did you hit it? Bill? Yeah?
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: And I have a question for Fred Kersch. Why does
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: he refuse to say Mac Jones is our quarterback? That's
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: that's what I had the same. Is it just because
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: he's young and not a stat like or is it
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: legitimate that I don't know. We'll see when he gets
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: back out there. Fred, he's with you. It's weird, right,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: You guys were often in lockstep first time ever? Right?
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: It really we're both lunatics, but we're never in locks
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: like both Paul and I believe when Mac is ready,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: he will come back and play. That's what I think
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: with my head. So when I listen to Right and
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: I wish just say that, Yeah, just say I feel
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: like the question before about the Totally Independent, he was
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: asked if, yeah, I don't bla his performance. I don't
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: believe it's anything to do it, and he says that
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: the totally Independent that tells me that Bill is saying
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: when Mac is healthy, he will play. We can't make
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: that determination now because he's not healthy. I I kind
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: of read into that that he ain't playing this week either. Well,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: he's not playing this week. I'm so sick of Jeremy
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Fowler's reports at all. He's pushing it. He could have
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: played last week. No, I saw the video that couldn't move.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: That's what I think Bill should be fired if he
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: played him last week. That's my opinion that you're putting
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: a guy out there and get hurt. Okay, um, see,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: this is why they don't like him. He gets so
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: bombastic like Bill should have been fired last week. You
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: agreed with him? Me, I literally texted you you agreed
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: with and I think I texted them back. Yep, he
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: freaking agrees um. And And also Mike Reeses has reported
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: that he I forgot how he worded it. In such
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: a Mike Reess way, like the truth that it is.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: My understanding of the truth is that might possibly indicate
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: that he's fifty to sixty percent through his rehab. Okay,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: so yeah, he's only way he's not ready yet. I'm
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: not putting a guy out there that's half ready now.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: But don't you feel like he's a guy that's like,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I'm ready, I'm ready. Yeah, that's what I said. He
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: was walking in. I think he's pushed it. He might
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: be ready if he had gotten the surgery, but he didn't.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: I think he should be reconsidering that because now he goes, oh,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: that guy's pretty good and Bill. Bill's not saying it's
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: my job. Is there any way he can get surgery now?
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: I mean he's already, that's I mean, could I guess?
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Because it protects you, the biggest advantage to the surgery
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: is it does not allow you to recover. From talking
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: about the tight tight rope surgery, Yeah, it doesn't allow
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: you to recover faster. It allows you to go back
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: out there faster without risk of further or increased damage. Okay,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: do you know this for a fact. The second part
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: of it, because the first part is I've been aware
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: of I know this as a fact as much as
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: an orthopedic told me that. Okay, I mean, I'm not
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: an orthopedic, as Bill, I'm not a doctor. Did you
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: talk to Eric? Did you call Eric to get to
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: talk to a smart person? So did? Who was way
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: above my head? And when he kept talking, he kept
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: going you get it? And I go yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: sure yeah, And I was like what I picked up
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: the Eric now works as a PR guy at a
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Rhode Island hospital, Right, did you I think I told you?
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I think you did tell me that. Isn't that a
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: great story anyway for the fans for the fans. The
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: first Eric's first week, Mark Daniels was doing some research
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: on the on the on the ankle sprain and who
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: who who? Who? Did you get? You didn't know everyone
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: that Eric arranged the Eric arranged the interview with the
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: specialists PR. Now, yeah, I'm not no, it's a hospital
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: PR like, isn't it like successful surgery? You know for
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: the update? But exactly that. It's communications. You're getting people
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: and putting people together the people that that they need
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: to Just you don't call up the hospital and say
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: can I talk to doctor James Andrews. It just must
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: have been an epic New Harumph of of epic proportions.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: You know. It's just like I can't get away from these.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: I'm judging Andy, that you're you're not on the Zappie bandwagon,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: that that, oh, he could be better than Mac. I mean,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I don't totally rule it out. Like I did get
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: into a fight with Christian the other day because he
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: said zero zero chance, and I'm like, well, it's not zero.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: I don't think it is. I think it's unlikely. And
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: I gave him one of those like ya six percent
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: chance seven whatever, A very low that right there, That
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: fifteen second SoundBite by Andy encapsulates pfw we PU. He
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: agreed with with Christian, but I still found a way
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: to get in an argument. And I think that's why
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Christian got so mad. He goes, if I could turn
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: your money. He was screaming at me like he wanted
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: to kick. He was sitting in your chair, Fred, it
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: was for Patriots money. I thought he was coming across
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: the table. He was sweating by. And then we go
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: to break and he goes, I don't know why you
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: make me so mad. And then he texted me the
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: next day. I've been thinking about it. I love you
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: and I hate you. It's a common sentiment with Andy,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: and I told him he used to call me the
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: likable jerk. I think it was worse than that. Yeah,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: I think it was still. No, you call me the
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: likable jerk? My show that or something. Oh, yeah, I
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: think it was. No, it was more clever than that. No,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: it was from you. Um, So I don't rule anything
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: out just because whatever. It's sports like guys come out
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: of nowhere. But this whole thing to like what he accomplished.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Do we not think that a healthy Mac would not
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: have beaten the Lions pretty handily? Right? Um, he might
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: not have gone over four in the red zone. You
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: might not have to kick five field goals exactly, Mac
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Joe not being asked to do passes. Now, if he
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: was bad Mac, he might have thrown picks even and
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: we would have looked at it really poorly because we
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: would have said, who's their secondary, Like that guy got hurt,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: that guy got five. But I can guarantee you even
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: if Mac had been quarterback, if they'd got up by
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: three scores, he wouldn't be thrown either, right, And that
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: he did last year, Well in those situations, well he
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  Speaker 1: turned those games into fifty point Also, not sure what
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  Speaker 1: of the game plan a year ago for Mac Jones.
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  Speaker 1: take this offense with Mac? Can we close the gap
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  Speaker 1: between our legs and go home. Like there were two
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  Speaker 1: different objectives and that's why I also find these. You know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe you should give Mac the offense you gave Zappy
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  Speaker 1: it in that direction not just to win the game.
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  Speaker 1: It is to win the game, but there's other right,
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  Speaker 1: So I just a lot of the analysis has frustrated.
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  Speaker 1: back up quarterback? Is it a coincidence that it's two
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: shutouts that they like have this really good game plan.
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  Speaker 1: team that isn't as good as people think. Maybe it
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  Speaker 1: Why y'll staring at me? I don't know. I was.
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  Speaker 1: for myself than they need to. Yes, yeah he does.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just take the straight path today. The comment the
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  Speaker 1: open and he does every segment to be full of
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  Speaker 1: always three. He's like Bill, Bill got on it. You
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  Speaker 1: multiple time ends. I mean there can be three tight ends.
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  Speaker 1: There can be two tight ends, two tight ends in
• 52:03
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  Speaker 1: come back to the other side, or they can start
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  Speaker 1: on that side and go back to the other. So,
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  Speaker 1: all right, how how well does Andy pay attention? What
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: did he say of this team this week that he
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  Speaker 1: didn't say of the Lions last Well? He mentioned the
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  Speaker 1: Jack Fox and the crisp boards of the world. That
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  Speaker 1: was the tough one. I know what you. I know
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  Speaker 1: what it is because I know you. Yeah, that's a
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  Speaker 1: tough one. He mentioned that this team was well coached.
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  Speaker 1: He never mentioned he mentioned well coached a couple of
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  Speaker 1: times coached Stefanski a couple of times. Yeah, I disagree
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  Speaker 1: with him. He never said that. Coach Stefanski drove it
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: down your throat last year and then decided to go
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  Speaker 1: five wide and let Baker Mayfield throw a pick to
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: lose the game. So how well coached are they? I
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: don't really buy it. But the quarterback last week. He
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: didn't mention Jared Goff last week until postgame when he
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: said Jared Goff good quarterback, and I'm like, no, he isn't.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: He turns into a puddle of goo when he plays usual.
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  Speaker 1: He certainly did. I was mad at myself. I picked
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  Speaker 1: the Lions. I want to ask you, I'm so stupid,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: so stupid, that's true, so stupid. I mean, I ever
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: picked Jared Goff again. He can win five straight MVPs
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: and I'll pick against him every week. I admit that
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be a closer. I
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: picked the Patriots to win. I didn't really think there
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  Speaker 1: was much doubt that they would win. Yes, that's true.
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  Speaker 1: I am I am five and oh I was four
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  Speaker 1: and o um until I fell on my face. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: your guy, Fitzy post game, you know, I felt good
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  Speaker 1: about this game. I picked the Patriots I said, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: for the four hundred and seventy ninth straight week. You don't.
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  Speaker 1: It's like when we do all access and Mike and
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  Speaker 1: I do it and then you know we're cutting and
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  Speaker 1: think they're gonna win two. Even Mike makes fun of
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: moments so funny. Uh so, yeah, what what else we got?
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  Speaker 1: The defense? Jack Jones future number one corner by the
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  Speaker 1: number one has he has he replaced Jason H j C.
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  Speaker 1: Jackson for you. Well, you know what annoys me with
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: that is everybody says like Bill was so smart letting
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  Speaker 1: j C go. Look, he sucks in LA. Well, he
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: didn't suck here. So if you had resigned him, I'm
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  Speaker 1: an assume you would have coached him well and he
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  Speaker 1: would have still been good. I would now you have
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  Speaker 1: two number one corners and I'd say, wow, I would
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  Speaker 1: go with the Bill knew he was gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: have ankle surgery right right before the season started. Chess
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  Speaker 1: check now thought that's what they put the extra bone
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  Speaker 1: in his ankle before he left. So don't rule it
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  Speaker 1: out there. Don't rule it out like if you wanted
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  Speaker 1: to give Bill superpowers, that's the superpower out. He knew
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  Speaker 1: he was gonna get hurt and be unavailable. But no,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: I do like Jack Jones, and I think Jack Jones
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: because one of the comments not as much as Jack
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  Speaker 1: Jones likes Jack and that's part of what I like
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  Speaker 1: about Jack Jones. And I like that mccordy likes that
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  Speaker 1: about Jack Jones. When I asked him about that comment
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  Speaker 1: he just can't allow any outs. That was funny. What
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: do you think about this take that I had? Um take?
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  Speaker 1: You know, because they developed the Patriots offense has had
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: to deal with, you know, not having Mac third string
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, you know, having to adjust and get back
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: to fundamentals and all that Mac will come back to
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: a better offense than he left. Um, I don't. I'm
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: not sure. Well, the one area I might say yes
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: is the offensive line. They've gotten engaged the last couple
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: of years. When was the last time Trent Brown flexed
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: over piles like he and we were talking about he
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: wasn't engaged. And I know people are thrown out theories
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: like did Scar give him a call? Because everybody thinks
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: talking to whatever chess. But I do think the offensive line,
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: aside from Isaiah Wynn, which I gotta think, there's a
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: chance Marcus Cannon is soon unseating him at the right
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: tackle spot. You know who else thinks that too, Kendrick Bourn,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: because he's like, oh no, we put Cannon in at
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: right tackle, right, So I'm on the line here. When
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: he got into his fight with Bill about covering up
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Marcus Cannon, he thought he was the right tackle. He
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: just assumed that he had replaced Win. Marcus Cannon also
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: like randomly led the Patriots in like all grades on
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: offense on PFF this week, which they go see. But yeah,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: I think the offensive line is something you can build on.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Other than that, no, I don't really buy that. I mean,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: you got Taekwon Thornton back, that's how replace Agilar with him.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: Do you think Aglar will be inactive with a hamstring
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: injury this week, regardless of whether he actually he definitely
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: was dealing with something. But I don't think that's the
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: only reason why seven everywhere. Yeah, I think he's toasts
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: and the only reason why he only played seven and
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: now you can have him inactive without these guys on
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: the pregame saying, oh wow, Aglar ten million dollars healthy scratch, No,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: he's he's inactive with a hamstring, right right, right, that's
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: what you'll say. You have to say that says hamstring
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: next to him. We'll see. I don't I know how.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know how that works. I don't like to
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: commit um, but the rest of the offense, I don't know.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was good to get Hunter Henry involved
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: last week the first past kind of get him, but
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: there's still like playing playing without without a net at
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: running back. I was just gonna say, I feel a
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: lot better Harris, Damien Harris. Although the one thing I
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: like here is I think you're going to see the
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: ascension like this is a star in the making in
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: my opinion. Stevenson, Yeah, I think Romandre is I've evolved
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: from I used to compare him to Levy on Bell.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Now I'm calling him a poor man, say Quon Barkley.
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  Speaker 1: So you can tell that I really enjoy What do
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: you think they do? Behind? John Smith takes from last summer?
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: What do you think? We're all wrong? Once in a while,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: you know who was wronger than me? Bill Belichick and
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, who paid him and then he spent the
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: whole summer giving him the ball. But, like I said
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: all the time, once in a while too, I nail
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: the hell out of most. What do you think they
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: do behind Ramandre without without Harris? Uh, it's a great question.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Like I don't want to see any of them. I mean,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, do we see any do we see anything
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: out of peer strong stakes? I haven't seen anything. I've
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: seen nothing. See. This is what he like. It's a tonality,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: I know it is. I have to counter Mike Reese
• 57:39
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• 57:42
  Speaker 1: starts with that whole thing about his coach told I
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: didn't you don't have to say steaks. I don't know him.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: I didn't see him, not much. But but I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what any statch. But I didn't. I don't anything
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  Speaker 1: ball I didn't see. I didn't see enough face to
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: know he staks. No, I know, that's like my point
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: he was. I thought from the fumble, I was intrigued
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: by Kevin Harris as a big runner, and that's what
• 58:03
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  Speaker 1: All right, we're back and Evan is back from practice.
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  Speaker 1: Has done all right? Evan, the spotlight's on you. Perfect
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: attendance on the fifty three man roster for the Patriots
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Running Back Damien Harris was out there, but
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: very very limited. I'd say it was similar to what
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: we saw with Jacobe or Mac or Kyle Dugger, where
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: he's there for attendance, but once injury report comes out
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: at four o'clock, I would expect him to be a
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: DNB okay, And of course everyone wants to know what
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: did Mac look like? I thought he was moving around
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: a little bit better. Today We got an extended look
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: at Mac Jones throwing passes both to the coaching staff
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: and then to actual receivers, not against air, obviously not
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: actually a team drill, but we got a pretty long
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: look at Mac Jones today and I thought he was
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: moving around a little bit better, seemed a little bit
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: more I don't know, more pep in his step, I
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: guess as a way to put it. But based off
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: of what we saw out there, it still feels like
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: and seems like Bailey Zappy is preparing to be the
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: starter on Sunday at least today. And I think that
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: was what Belichick said this morning where he said, you know,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: you gotta get out there at practice today, see what
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: everybody looks like and go from there. So that could change.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: But based off of the way that drills were being
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: running stuff like that, it looks like Zappy is still
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: QB one for now. Yeah, I mean, unless I know
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: for sure that Mac can start today, I have to
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: go all in on Zappy because I want to prepare
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: him for the game. I don't want to be splitting
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: snaps and oh, let's see how he looks Thursday. Well,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: we'll see how Mac looks Friday. No, we got to
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: prepare for the game. So you make your decision today
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: who your starter is, and it's gotta be Zappy. You know.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: Do you think they're like look at him throughout the weekend?
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, is there somebody here trainer like evaluating Mac.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure Mac was here like the whole
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: time last weekend or yeah, oh yeah, I would imagine. Yeah,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: it's not like he just kind of goes off and yeah,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: they didn't really get a look at him for a
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: few days. I would imagine. I assume he's doing every
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: said it was a nice day out there today, Yeah,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: really nice day out Almost felt like a early summer
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: day or one of those fall days. At Lingers. I
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: would imagine that affected the mood. The mood was great, yeah,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: and they, like I said, day let us see the
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks throw for a solid five or six minutes. And
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: we got to just stand there and watch Mac move around.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: Take video of him throwing, which I'm sure is all
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: over social media and every other post is like a
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: video from a mile away of Matt Jones, and he
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: looks better. I'm not saying we were that close. He
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: was standing on about the fifty yard line, and we
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: were at in the end zone, you know, at the
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: at the back of the ends sixty yards, so we
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: were like sixty yards away from him. But you can
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: at least see how his moving around. And I one
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: little thing that I did notice was he had his
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: knee brace on. And he wears a knee brace, that's
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: a routine thing for him. But if he's not going
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: to participate in practice at all once the drills actually
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: truly begin, that why have the knee brace on? Right,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: The knee brace is sort of a contact thing, not
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: necessarily trying to keep his knee protected when he's just
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: throwing drills. So I don't know if he always wears it.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: I'll have to take a note. That is interesting, but
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: correct me. He was limited last week, right, correct, It
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: was the week before that he was DMP every day, correct. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: but so I think if he's doing anything that makes
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: a little sense. But yeah, you probably can expect him.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: Oh what do we got? Mike has a bad looking
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: looking at Mark Daniels. You know, he does his found
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: footage to his binocular so it's super shaky. But the
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: flappy thing, it's just that's bugging the hell out of
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: me already. I'm glad that that's another thing though. That
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: just reminded me. Did you not have that last week?
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: He had it on today? Yeah, and he was looking
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: at it a lot and not playing with the flap,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: just looking at the play. So no, I think that's
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: interesting that he's doing more quarterback he things. Yeah, you know,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: if he's got the brace on and he's got the
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: the flappy thing that Mike hates so much. Yeah, well,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: I mean we're not gonna be you know, obviously we're
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: not there when they really start doing the team drills today.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: But if he's starting, then he's got to be starting
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: today in my opinion. You know, I don't think I mean,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: I get your point, and I think it's a it's valid.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think that that's the be all end all.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: I think if they feel like he's going to progress
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: to be ready, then I think he doesn't need the
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: prep time that Zappy does. I think you can get
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Zappy ready and be comfortable. Like to me, it's a
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: it's a health thing. If they think he's healthy enough
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: to go. He knows what he's doing. Yeah, especially today's
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: usually like early down day, so this is like and
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: you hand it off and you hand it off and
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: you know so, but if he's getting better third down,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: red zone tomorrow. This is the actual footage from today
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: right here. It's so obviously they're talking about that too,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: because they're really zeroing in on the brace here and
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: the sports ub footage his whole leg. I can't see,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: are they. So they're in shelves today, Yeah, and then
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: uppers with probably knee braces and stuff like that. That's
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: what they've been doing a lot in the season as
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: they got the shoulder pads on and the you know
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: below the waist is like the like knee sleeves or
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: braces that they use, but not you know, full on
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: like pads Okay, Oh you know, so Mac is back,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: says Beetle. Well, we'll see. Um, he certainly looks better
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: than he did last week. Well, and the last week
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: he looked better now, like wouldn't that. I mean, I'm
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: not making fun of anybody, like, but like that to
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: me is a given. Like he's gonna progress, right, I
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: mean it's it's now going to be you know, four weeks,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: you know, since the since the like he's going to
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: get progressively better. Yeah. The question is he getting to
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: the point where you think he's moving well enough to play? Yeah?
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: And that you know, I think we're all sort of wondering. Ye,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: But I don't think anybody has the answer to that question.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: I just think that last thirty percent is hard to discern,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: Like you could tell last week when it's like he
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: ain't even close. I mean, he looks like he's at
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: best fifty fifty maybe less so. And at that last
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: thirty percent, how do they I don't think the reporters
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: are gonna be able to tell. You know, it's like
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden and you're not going to see
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: him starting. Yeah, like run run, like I'm running to
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: try to get away from Miles Miles. Garrett Evan, I
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: think you did a very good job this week differentiating
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: how the offense looked with Zappy compared to when mac
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: m One thing in your studies this week that I
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: wanted to ask you was about Thornton Taekwon Thornton. Yes,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, there were two or three plays where
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: I thought Thornton got off the line well and Zappy
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: chose not to go to him. One he got a
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: twenty three yard pass to h Meyer, so it's it's
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: no big deal. But I thought on that particular play
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: the if he had he seen Thornton, it might have
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: been a home run. Did you see that as well? Yeah,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: So that was one of the two plays that I
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: highlighted in the post with Taekwon, the one you're talking about.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: He was in the cover two hole right the underneath
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: corner presses him at the line of scrimmage. Then he
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: clears it and he gets up the sideline into that
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: cover two hole and not to make it mag Vers
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: Zappy or whatever, but look, I think that a more
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: aggressive minded quarterback probably puts that on Taekwon's back shoulder
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: away from the safety coming over the top in the
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: half field. And puts it on the sideline for him
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: and they have a big play there. And I thought
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: earlier on in the game the two plays that everybody
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: keeps highlighting was Zappi or those like scramble second reaction
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: type of plays. He had one earlier to Myers too,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: and where he misses a downfield throw to Hunter Henry
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: that I broke down in that post. So those downfield
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: opportunities were there at times with Taykwon. The other one
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: was I think he was more clearing out coverage than
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: actually the number one option on the play, but he'd
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: get by his defender pretty easily. And still even if
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: you're clearing out coverage when you're you know, two or
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: three yards behind the defense, that's still an opportunity there
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: for the quarterback to throw a deep if he feels
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: like he has you opened down the field. So that
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: one Zappy opened the other direction, he had his back
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: to the Thornton read he opened to the right side
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: instead of the left, so he didn't see it. I
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: think there were some instances certainly where Taekwon was opened
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: down the field. I think the one thing that maybe
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: stood out to me a little bit, it was a
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: little bit too much wasted time at the line of
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: scrimmage sometimes, Like I think he's trying to throw too
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: many fakes in his release moves, where when you're a
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: four two eight guy, just just get up the field right,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: make a move and go, because you got to get
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: your strides open and get that speed going. Some of
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: the times I thought he lingered a little bit too
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: long at the line of scrimmage and his route took
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: a little bit too long to get going, which might
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: have moved Zappy onto something else because of that. Yeah, alright,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: something he missed Myers too, Because that one I think
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: we saw that during the game on the far end zone.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about Myers kind of busting actually, yeah, so
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: that one was I also put that in there. And
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: that one I think he just came off of Myers
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: a little bit too quickly and they ended up dropping
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: a defender off the line of scrimmage and into a
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: robber zone. And that Myers was running into the robber.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: But the robber is really looking in the middle of
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: the field, right, He's not focused on the routes outside
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: the numbers. So Myers is crossing on that deep over
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: route and although he has to go through the robber zone.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: It's not really like the robber is going to be
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: able to turn his back and make a play on
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: the football in that situation. So if he just lays
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: that ball out for Myers in the front of the
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: end zone at six, and that's one of those ones
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: that it was a kind of a disguised coverage that
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: I think he just moved off of and went to
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: Hunter Henry. But ideally once he sees that on tape,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: he comes back to it maybe next week and is
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: able to see that love it in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: So that was just something I just wanted to get
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: your opinion on. Was Thornton And you know, I think
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: only had a couple of catches and they were for
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: short yards, but I love seeing them out there. And
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: do you believe that it makes it easier to sit
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: Agalore this week now that he's here. Yeah, Look, I
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: think Thornton is here to replace Nelson agal Or, whether
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: it's now or next year, right, I mean, Nelson aglor
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: is in a contract year. You need that speed receiver
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: in your offense, and Thornton was drafted to hopefully not
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: have to pay Nelson Aglare again. Pay somebody like Nelson again,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: So that's the idea. And I definitely thought when you
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: watch him, especially against man coverage, that suddenness and burst
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: is a factor, Like it's difficult to cover him for
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: defensive backs. And you could see the Lions defensive backs.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: You know, he created some separation. He didn't always get
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: the ball, but there are some moments of separation there
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: for sure. And then who do you think they get what?
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: When you asked him, you said, we are there two
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: or three times that they got open? Which I would
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: have agreed, Yeah, okay, I would have agreed there were
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: two times, so they got open. Okay. I would also
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: agree with the other thing that Evan said about him
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: wasting some time with the honor scrimmage. A matter of fact,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: he and I talked about that a little bit. Yeah
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: during the game, Okay, that's all. Who do you think
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: I always change it? Who's the running back that's number
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: two behind Stevenson for this game? It's a good question.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: I think it's tough because it depends on what is
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: the role that they want that running back to play.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: If he's going to be an early down back and
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: they're just gonna spell Stevenson for five to ten carries
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: on first down. Then I actually think it might be
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: JJ Taylor getting the call up from the practice squad
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: because we've seen him, although it hasn't been a long
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: time in a regular season game, we've seen him be
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: able to just run the ball in an NFL game
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: between the tackles, and that's what they really need. I
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: would highly doubt if it's Strong, if it's Harris, whoever, Taylor,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: that they would put them on the field on third
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: down because now you have Blitz pick up responsibilities, you
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: have to run routes like that's gonna be Stevenson, that's
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: gonna be his role, which as it should be. So
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: really what they're looking for as a guy to come
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: in and give them like eight carries on first down.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: And I think if I had to pick somebody right now,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: I'd probably lean towards JJ Taylor. Okay, I think that's
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: what it will be too. That's what we talked about yesterday.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: I just what do you think of Kevin Harris in
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: that kind of a role. Yeah, I mean I think
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: ideally that's the role that he's going to play. Right
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: you know that he is a first and second down
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: Patriot back. A power guy can run between the tackles,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: you know, Strong, especially if you start to get him
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: going and you let the blocking sort of do the
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: work and get him up to a top speed. He
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: probably has been a pretty difficult guy to tackle in
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: the open field going back to college. You know, he's
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: some highlights in college where he's carrying guys, pushing the pile,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: things like that. So I was a little wary of
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: his ball security. The fumbles killed him. There's no question
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: that's why he's on the practice way. Yeah, so I'm
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: not sure if they're ready for either rookie running back.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: Quite frankly, I think Peter Strong will be active, but
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's ready to take on an
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: actual role. I don't know. It's kind of disappointing. I mean,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: he drafted these two guys for a situation like this.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: I mean Brandon Boldham left. You know, It's just you'd
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: love to see one of these guys that they drafted
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: step up and maybe give you something to think about
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: when Harris potentially leaves next years a free Yeah, I
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: would like it to be pre strong in this game.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: I agree with Evan's assessment, but I would like it
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: to be. If it's gonna be five to six seven,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: why not. Yeah, see, you know he's got some speed.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: Get them out there, give me a chance. And then
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: and then we're doing the whole zappy dance with Damian Harris,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: like we're doing the whole like Pierre Strong right days
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: is greener. It is interesting though, too, because this offense
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: now without a fullback. Like before, when they had the
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: full back and he had to put a young running
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: back out there, it's like just run behind James Death.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: But it's really not much thinking on the running backs part.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: But now that they've gone away from the full back,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: there's a lot more reading the line of scrimmage for
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: the running back. You know, they're running in side zone,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: outside zone, things like that, and they're trying to get
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: them to read those cutback lanes. That's a lot different
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: than just saying, okay, we're gonna run, you know, lead
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: with James Devlin or Jacob Johnson and you're just going
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: to follow him through the hole. You know, that's simple offense.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: This is a little bit more advanced between the airs
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: for backs and yeah, it's just like three James Devlin
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: references here on the show todays. I think, yeah, five
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: past five hundred is the ace taking a hut line.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: U phones are stacked up, so let's get them unstacked.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: Todd's in North Carolina. What's up, Todd? Hey, guys, With
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: respect to your video telecast, one of the big things
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: is body language is like forty five percent of communication.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: And you guys have such great body language. Your facial
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: expression spread or legendary. And to watch Deuce's little smile
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: when he when he you know he's going to get
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: a point and he's gonna get Paul because he doesn't
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: get ball off, but he does get that smile that
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: one time. Okay, so there's there's a there's a check
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: check mark in the video column. Oh you guys anti
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: video love the video video too. Yeah, but we just
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: want to like, is the value there to have like
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: a producer and you know somebody, you know, all the
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: production that's required versus just doing audio. You think it's
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: why because the clips that we pull, like yeah, Alex
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: is talking about of you and Paul bickering back and
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: forth on the But I don't want that stuff goes viral, right,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: Like that's the stuff that people craft towards listeners and
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: then you get a new listeners and the Facebook, Live, Twitter, Instagram,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: like we can tap into that audio, can farm the comments. Yeah,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: because everything's video these days. Everything. Yeah, all right, quick
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: question for you guys, YEP, is this, how much more
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: do you trust Bailey's happy to be able to take
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: with respect progressing in the passing game? Like how much
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: more complication are you willing to see added to him?
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: Do you think that he can handle? Because I think
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: it's going to be necessary for this game, because I
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: really think that Cleveland's going to sell out to stop
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: the run, and if we don't have some answers, it
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: could be problematic. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think that. You know,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: from last week to this week, he's become that much
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: better passing the ball, you know, So like I don't
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: want to add too much more to you know, now,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: if he's got to throw the ball more than you know,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five times, I think you know that's that's
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: it's not unfolding favorably right to the Patriots. Yeah, So,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: in regard to the quarterback situation, our buddy Mike Giardi
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: tweeted recently seven minutes ago, quick Mac Jones update perse sources.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: Of course, if the Patriots second year quarterback were to
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: play this weekend, he'd be dealing with some instability in
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: that angle, but depending on how it progresses this week,
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: it could be managed in a variety of ways. The swelling,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: I'm told has decreased, So a lot of kods and
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: maybe's and who knows, but just you know, another another
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: layer certainly sounds like as expected with the passing weeks,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: he's getting better and closer to return. I would hope.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: So no, so no setbacks, I guess is you know,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: is good news? Like a shot situation kind of things
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: that wouldn't I would have the variety of ways I
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: would think, just tore it all. Yeah, yeah, that's one
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: of them. Yeah. Do they give him that for practice too,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: or is that just a game only type situation? As games? Yeah,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: that's a big needle if you're doing it that often. Well,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know about every want to win. Yeah, I
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: don't know about every practice, but I do wonder if
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: that's something that you don't want a guy going blind
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: with like he needs to. He's going to step into
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: a game, your game and give him. Oh, I didn't
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: know what was going to feel like that. You know,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: it's a bill game, and what evident? You can't feel
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: a thing? Yeah, and that's how sometimes getting Yeah, that's
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: how the injuries get exacerbated. Yeah, Um, Alex is a
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: fall river. Hey Alex, not you, Alex, you're here, You're
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: a gone all right? Or Williams and philam what's up? William?
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: What's going on? Then? How are you doing? Good? A
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: two questions and I get back to work. When do
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: you think you'll see? No? Fine, you get to see
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: the death four two weeks? Well say sorry, Yeah, he
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: did play Sunday. Yeah, I mean he's he's I mean,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: I know he plays Sunday. Yeah, but I think we didn't,
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, I try to get
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: that all twenty two? Yeah, I mean this is where
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: I gotta go with Evan's side here strange bedfellows. Yeah,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean if you if you rewatch the game,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: you just focus on him. You saw some of that speed.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: But I get what you're saying. When are we gonna
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: like use it? I think when Mats back. I mean, yeah,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: the way they've been pushing the ball down the field
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: with Mac, I would be very surprised if he you know,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: when Matt comes back, if they were on some shots
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: to takewon, Yeah, and I won't. I won't even be surprised.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: You know. Listen, like Paul said, zap be throw the
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: ball downfield last week? You know at least three times,
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: two of them were penalties. You know. Positive. Um, I'm
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you I guarantee one shot play
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: to Thornton. This at least one. I like it this week.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: But they threw the ball down the field in a
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: much different way than Mac was throwing the ball down
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but I was not talking about downfield. I
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: was talking about fifty fifty balls, right, Yeah. I heard
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: so many people say, see how much better the offense looks.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: How many fifty fifty balls did you see? I said, well,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: three that I can think off the top of my head. Yeah.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: So look, I have what I'm gonna call the zappy offense.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: Is the training wheel offense, right, that's the training wheels offense.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: We got forty percent play action, We have no tight
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: window throws, and we are managing the game in every
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: single direction to make sure that there's not too much
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: on the quarterback. And what I rode and I kind
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: of put that side by side stack comparison on purpose,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: is because what they were asking Mac to do was
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: so much significantly more than what they were asking Zappy
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: to do, and the numbers bear it out. And they
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: were basically just creating every single open window throw they
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: could possibly think of with Bailey Zappy. And if you're
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: gonna do that, then you're not going to get the
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: downfield throws. You're not going to have those players even
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: with scheme where they're going to be pushing the ball
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: down the field because ultimately those players are not going
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: to be wide open often in the NFL. Yeah, just
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: one more question and then and now I'm not jelling,
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: so I'm all in on man. And my opinion is
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: just basically, I wouldn't bring him ba until after the
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: Beers game. I mean, I'm not going to, I wouldn't
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: whisky from them. I just don't want him to reinjue
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: legal anything for that man, you know what I mean.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's just my thing. Okay, y'all take care,
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: all right? Thanks? Yeah, I think I bring him back
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: when he's ready, you know. Yeah, it's simple to Yeah, Unfortunately,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: it's boring because we don't know when that's gonna be. Yeah,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: but if he's healthy, I don't wait. I don't wait
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: an extra game work to be done. Get him back.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: We need more reps, we need to start, you know,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: getting this thing online with their number one, you know,
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: and then I'm pretty stubborn, but I'm not stupid. If
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: he comes back and he's healthy, and he's continuing to
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: throw the ball all over the place and you know,
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: basically average an interception to game, which he's done, I
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: think he has twenty picks in twenty one games. If
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: he continues to do that and the other kids not
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: doing that, then you might have a conversation to have.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: But I don't think we're anywhere close to that situation.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: I think mac Jones is so far advanced. I just
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: go by the very first game when mac Jones was
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback playing in his very first game, he
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: attempted thirty nine passes. He was also sacked a few times,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: so they attempted over forty passes in his first game.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: They didn't do that with Bailey Zappy, right, it was
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: about half that amount twenty two. Yeah, here's something development
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: Tom writes in from May with Fred calling out Hardy
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: and making a big deal about the ad read. I
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: figured I would check it out myself. It turns out
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: the era in the ad read is not that they
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: neglected to tell you to say dash, but in how
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: they spelled out their own website. Visit ma dot com
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: works but visit dash ma dot com does not. And
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: while I know it's not your fault, Fred, I can't
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: wait for the formal apology to Hardy. Well that's something, yeah,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: I mean they spell it out with the dash, so
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: they shouldn't do that if it's visit ma dot com. Right,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: how do you know it's a dash or a dash? Right? Wa? Wa? Yeah?
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: On the keyboard there's a different button to hit. No, no, no,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: no no. The way they spell it here, it's got
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: a hyphen a dash, right, but the URL does not,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: so they what is wrong? Oh? So it doesn't have
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: it in there at all. It doesn't have it in there.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: It's just visit m a right, which makes more sense, right,
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: it does, easy to remember it does. But who wrote
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: this copy? Matt Morrel? You fired? I thought he was
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: saying like somehow like a hyphen is a different character
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: than a dad. No, no, no, no, it's the same
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: I got. I got confused. It's the same character thieve
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: grandpa over in the corner by himself. So this is
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: the video that Hardy. Hardy got it right without knowing
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: he got it, didn't even realize it was Yeah, he does.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: He gets no credit for that. Upstairs. Yeah, we don't
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: have to We don't have to do that. It's just
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: friend's office. Catherine uh Nielsen Waltham writes, And I was
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: very excited to see Stevenson's great game last week. Can
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: you remember the last time Bill said he loved a
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: current player? No, Um, I don't Teddy Bruski perfect player? Man.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: My guess is he said it like about Matthew Slater
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: about I mean, I don't know. I do think that
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: his praise. I mean, like I'm not gonna get bogged
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: down at semantics the emailer's point. The praise was different
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: for Stevenson last It was over the take. He's right. Yeah.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: Didn't he say I love KB on the Greg Hill
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: Show recently? Did he? I don't know, Yeah, I'm not.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: That's like I said, like, I just think that the
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: way he talked about Stevenson, I told you that I
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: think I think Stevenson is the best player on his team. Yeah,
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: I think he does too. Yeah, I think that's that's
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: the way he talked about. I think he's the best
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: player period. But that's just me. The red sleeves guy
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: might have an argument there. He's playing better maybe, but
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: if he played like if he played Stevenson had games
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: like that and he had a chance to get twenty
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: five carries every game. Uh Bill's also says on Sunday,
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: the way Stevenson was able to shed tacklers reminded me
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: a bit of Lea Garrett Blunt. But he definitely seems
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: two things I never thought I would compare, But it
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: definitely seems quicker than Blunt in his cuts. Is there
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: another former Patriot that would be a better comp for Stevenson,
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: I don't see that. I mean, I just think he's
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: so light on his feet for a big guy. That's
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: what makes him stand out, like Blunt was never that.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: Andy's Van Bell. Yeah, so Levian Bell. First of all,
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know where Patriots fans have this idea that
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: Lagarret Blunt was some elusive runner, but this comes up
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: all the time. He wasn't that Lagarret Blunt. Was like
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: this like Larry Sanders, right, Like he had fifteen touchdowns,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: so that meant he was good. I looked this up
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: yesterday because of course me and barth Off the Air
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: were in an argument about la Garrett Blunt and UH.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: In twenty and sixteen, which was Lagarret Bund's big season
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: with the Patriots, he had like nineteen touchdowns or something
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: like that. He averaged just over two yards after contact
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: per rush, which is below league average. Like this was
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: a bowling ball, right, You get him downhill, the line
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: opens up a hole, and once he gets going, he's
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: like a train, right that That's that's true, But this
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: was not an all would he would tippy toe behind
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: the line and get caught behind. The one thing I
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: would say about Blunt that was um a big positive
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: in his category that was sort of rare, was for
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: a guy that size, when he did get to that level,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: he could he could be Yeah he was moving, Yeah
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: he wasn't he He was not getting caught a lot
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: um once he broke free. And for a guy that
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: bat size, I agree with though, Like in the backfield,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: how many times you say stop dancing? Right? He was
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: you know, he needed to get three yards out and
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's See. The thing about Remandre
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: is when he's in a tight spot, like his feet
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: aren't too close together, like he's got equal balance so
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: he can go either way. And he's very shifty in
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: small spaces. Blunt was not, but he's still big. But
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: he was. It was weird because he was fast. It
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: was fast. It doesn't have that nimble quick. But that's
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: different about quick being in a phone booth and having
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: to maneuver out of it. And it just makes Remander
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: so unique is that he hasn't I bet you Alex
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: doesn't know what a phone booth is. Okay, all right,
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: that was the problem right there, too young yeah telling well,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: you'll look you up, Thank you could company. I needed
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: to hear that. My birthday this month, birthday where I'm
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: going to start stop telling people in my remote good
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: rinking age thirty time, twenty eight took a shot twenty seven?
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: Why would why would you get why would you go
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: to twenty eight as the cutoff? When you stopped telling
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: people your age? It's a milestone birthday, Yeah it's thirty forty,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: but then you have to say you're thirty forever. Same twenty.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm just gonna say you twenty eight. Somebody's
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: got a big thirtieth birthday coming up on the road
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: this year. Somebody that's about to turn thirty and about
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: six weeks, I don't want to talk thirty. He's going
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: to be in Vegas though, for Arizona or Arizona. When
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: are you turn in? When are you turn in? Sixty?
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: Friend turning sixty, I'm eighty two tomorrow. I just you know,
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: look like I'm yeah. Last year, Remandre was talking. We
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: were talking to Remandre and everybody always asked young players like,
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: who's the guy that you idolized growing up? Who's the
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: guy you modeled your game after? And leave On Bell
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: was his answer. So when he said that, nobody were
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: all like, well, you're two hundred and thirty pounds, what
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: do you mean. Leveon Bell is a bigger guy too,
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: but he wasn't Remandre's size, and they were like, yeah,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're not really like that, Like he didn't.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like, you know, like Garret Blunt. They're like
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: somebody that was a bigger running back, and I know,
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: he said, Levan Bell such a weird person. Alike. I mean,
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: I know he was good, but like just the style
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: of of like, that's what of his ability to make
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: guys miss in tight quarters reminds me of Levy and Bell. Yeah,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: that's why when Andy said that, I was like, yeah,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: but I do see the different style though. Bell was
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: more like hand in the back of his blocker and
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: then boom. Then he would just burst either way, it
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: was a slow development. Yeah, it was just all of
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: a sudden and then boom out. But never really I mean,
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: how many good years did he have? I mean problem
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: he racked up four hundred plus carries a year at
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: Michigan State. That was his problem. Yeah, Zach and Pennsylvania says.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: My opinion on why video is in such demand If
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: anyone else is like I am, It's like I like
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: to listen when I'm eating lunch. I can't speak for
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: anyone else, but when I'm eating I always like to
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: have something to stimulate me visually. That wouldn't be a
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: welcome buddy. Yeah, I'm sorry, sorry to let you down. Yeah,
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: maybe this is how other people are feeling. Love the show.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: Look forward to every segment so so far, everybody everybody
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: wants video. He was listed at two twenty five. He
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: was pretty big too. Yeah. Yeah. Just to answer Mike's question,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: though I looked up his stats, he had like that
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: five year, it was a pretty good five year with
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: the Steelers from thirteen to seventeen. He had one year
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: that he only had six games played, but he had
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: five hundred and fifty six yards in those six games.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: But it was thirteen sixty twelve sixty thirteen hundred rookie year,
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: eight sixty and eight eight seven nine touchdown, like really productive.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: And he was always a good receiver too. Ye. Yeah,
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: that's a part of the game that I think Rmandre
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: has come along in the passing game. But eighty three
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: catches one of those bell is basically a wide receiver
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: when he was in his prime with the Steelers, and
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: he want to get he said that he was I
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: think I am a running back and a wide receiver,
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: kind of like the argument that Debo makes right Miss
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: San Francisco. I don't know if Vermandre is quite on
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: that level yet where we're talking about him. Then he
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: held out, yeah, and it fell in. Vermont said podcasts
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: are great, but personally, I feel they're most enjoyable during
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: other activities such as driving, mowing the lawn, etc. I
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: love listening to you all, but once I'm done with
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: my activities at the end of the day, I don't
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: want to just sit with earbuds in and stare creepily
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: into space. I want to grab some diet Millers, fall
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: into the recliner and stare at the TV. There's just
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: something about the additional visual stimulant. I feel many would
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: agree it works for the postgame show. You guys should
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: just do it. It's funny. I'm remembering when I was
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: like in early college, late high school, got into Howard
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: Stern back when he was on regular radio, and how
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: cool it was finding e and entertainment that they would
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: at night broadcast like the segments and like to actually
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: see what the guys look like. You have such an
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: you know, like you picture a certain way, but then
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: you finally swaying me on it. As I agree, I
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: was taken the same way, like, oh, I wonder what
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: they all really look like. I wonder what I wonder
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: how they interact and whatnot. And Jackie Martling. But it's
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: gonna change how you and I are, Paul. I mean,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: right now, we've got already been knew we've got one
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: sitting out here and we have to care about how
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: we look anymore. Yeah. I just think the one thing
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: we need to adjust, Fred is that instead of looking
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: at me and doing the eyebrow thing when you're trying
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: to get Paul going, you gotta get they gotta get something.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: It's gonna break the fourth wall at that moment, and
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, he's doing it again. It's good time. Oh,
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: I have a voiceover guy Timothy, Upper Peninsula of Michigan.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: I emailed last week about Zappy looking more confident than Mac,
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: and I think I triggered Evan with the question, and
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: I do apologize for that. I think what I was
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: trying to say it's kind of what Alex Barth mentioned
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: Uncatched twenty two. I think Zappy turns the ball over
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: way less than Mac. But after watching Zappy for two
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: games now, I think that's more by design than Zappy
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: just playing better than Matt. Thank you who is that?
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: This is Tim, Tim, I'm getting through to you. I
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: think I think I don't know he's turned it over
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: twice in two games. My question is, what do you
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: guys think would need to happen for Zappy and Mac
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: to be in a true quarterback controversy, I think I
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: think Mac would have to have a setback, which would
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: allow Zappy to play five more games and he wins
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: every one of them. I think Mac would have to
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: do something. I think it's Pauls thing. I think it's
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: Matt comes back and it's an interception fest and they
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: can't win, and it just gets why I don't say
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: zero percent like to revisit Andy's thing with I don't
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: think it's likely. But I don't think it's about football either.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: If there's a change, this is because like you know,
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: every and I talked about this, like throughout the game,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: I was talking about like triggering. I was really doing
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: my best to get under evan skin during the game.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: Every time Zappy made a play, I kept looking at Ever,
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: I kept I kept going, Hey, you're gonna have a
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: tough week. He did say that, Like no, really, like
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: really because like you know me, like if the game
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: is close, I get into it. When I deemed the
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: game over, and you know, sometimes I'm wrong. When I
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: deemed the game the game over very early, and I
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: just basically took the rest of the game off and
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: it just tried to get ewer and it worked. I
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: got my my notebook in front of me. I'm trying
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: to chart the game start. He's charting formation. I'm trying.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: I got tough personnel here, and let some smoke on
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: that one. See that five yard hitch she just threw.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: My goodness, you see it come out so like the
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: cost stepped up in the pocket, got out of the
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: I can't get out of the poet like that, you know,
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: fun that I had a side. I agree with Evan
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: on mac jones ability, and by comparison to Bailey's appies,
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it would be football though. Fred.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: I think if if something happens to mac Jones, it's
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: like what we talked about all summer. I know, the
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: media driven narratives. They weren't real narratives, they were just
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: media driven. I think we're in the media, so I
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: guess we can talk about him. He wasn't seemingly comfortable
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: and on board with everything they were doing. He was,
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of hemming and horror at his press conferences.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: They got better, I thought as Camp went on, but
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: I think he wondered, what what do we why we
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: have defensive coaches coaching offense. Like basically, long story short,
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: I'll say, if they don't really think he's on board
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: with what they want to do, when they think the
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: other kids more coachable, Yeah, I think that there could
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: be a change. If you're just judging it by cheer ability,
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's very close. Yeah. I think A
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: big thing too, to your point is in the summer,
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: at beginning part of the summer, we saw so much
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: outside zone, so much bootleg, all that kind of stuff,
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden was gone and they get
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: them in out even week one. But you look at
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: two and three specifically, and they're shotgun, they're spread their
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: very little play action. They got a couple of inklings
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: of RPOs in there, and all of a sudden you're like, well,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: wait a second, like this looks like Alabama. Like now
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: this is did what did Max say? Right? What did
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: what did Mac do? Because this they're building this whole thing,
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing it around Max, so right, and if
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: he comes out and he doesn't play well when they
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: have changed the entire offense for him, Mac refused to
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: eat his vegetables, then that does give even me a
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: Max stand some pause because we did this for you,
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: like we learned how to play like this in a
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: spread offense with RPOs with all shotgun with not a
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: lot of true natural under center play action because you
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: told us it wasn't working, and now we're doing your thing. Yeah,
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: and you're throwing two picks a game, so that Dad's
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: definitely where it would be for me. But you have
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: to give him the rope to be able to see right. Well,
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: you know how long it goes for before you start
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: to pull the plug. So wait, wait, just real quick. Yep.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: That's if he doesn't play well doing it the way
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: that they sort of changed for him, the way Evant
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: just explained. Yea, what if they look and say, you
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: know what, we did all these changes for him and
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: he was throwing a lot of interceptions. This sort of
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: more conservative approach that we used for large stretches of
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: last year we had success with and Zappy had success
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: with it. So we're going back to that. So Mac,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: you're not going to be throwing it down the field more.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: You're not going to be doing this, that and the
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: other thing. You're gonna do what we were doing the
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: last couple of weeks because we haven't success with that,
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: and in turn Mac doesn't like it. Yeah, that's what
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Like, I think there would have to
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: be some sort of conflict beyond football, okay for him
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: to lose his job. But I also think it's totally
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: fair from Mac to not like it, absolutely because not
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: just about his accolades and making forty million dollars a
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: year anything like that. There's a really good Nick Saban
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: quote from around like twenty fifteen, twenty and sixteen, Alabama
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: had just lost in the National Championship Game. First world problem.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: But Nick Saban went into the off season and hired
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: Lane Kiffen, and he said to himself, if I'm going
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: to compete in football now, we have to compete on
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: the scoreboard. We can't win games running the football and
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: playing good and famously said, you can't play great defense anymore. Right,
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: And so they completely changed their offensive Alabama. They became
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: a spread system. They started recruiting wide receivers and quarterbacks
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: and now they have seventeen of them every single year.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: You know, Bryce Down gets hurt and they just put
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: in the next guy and he's almost just as good
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: as Bryce Young. Like this is anyway, Yeah, well maybe
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: not not not in this instance, but when Matt when
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: you know two gets hurt and it's Mac or it's
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: Jalen hurts or whatever and that era. So Nick Saban
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: recognized it, and I think Mac took note of it
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: and said, you know, if we're gonna beat Buffalo, if
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: we're gonna beat Kansas City, like I'm gonna go toe
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: to toe with Josh Allen with this offense. Like it's
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: not like if you played offense the way the Patriots
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: did on Sunday against Buffalo or Kansas City, what do
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: you think of the result would have been forty two
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: to three. Yeah, because they wouldn't have been able to
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: kick all those field goals because they would have been
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: like Dan Campbell having to go for it a fort right,
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: you know. Like that's I think that's the point. And
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm getting at with Matt, Like clearly he's
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's entitled to anything or he's owed anything,
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: but I think that you saw a ceiling with the
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: way they played last year. I think the coaches are
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: at too. That's why they did what they did. That's
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: why they decided to try to incorporate more downfield passing
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: and different kinds of running like they're looking for bigger plays. Again.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: I know, I sound like a broken record. The Patriots
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: were easy to defend last year. That's not my words.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: Those awards of at least one other defender who I
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: forget who it was, but the Patriots are easy to defend.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: You can't be that in the NFL, and playing the
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: way they did Sunday, they were easy to defend on
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: a terrible defense held him I don't know, fifteen points
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: below the season average whatever it was, twenty two, fourteen points.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: Joe and Orlando says, not sure if it's been asked yet,
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: but what do you think Zappy can do or can
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: he do enough during his stint to secure the backup
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: spot this year? I think for sure, I think that
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: you know, and we don't know this for sure, but
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: I think Brian Hoyer is not well right now. I
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: know that I got a question in the mail back
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: this week. They put them on Iah. Where does that
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: tell you what they think about? Hoyer tells me they
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: has a pretty significant concussion. That's what it tells me. Now.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: I get you can't have two quarterbacks that are definitely
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: not going to be on the game day roster you can't,
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: so they had to sort of make a move. I
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: don't think that that was done solely for football reasons.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: I think it had to be done. That's just my opinion.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: I think he had a significant concussion I saw. I
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: think it was Phil Perry. We'll see. Maybe he'll be
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: back in three weeks and I'll look dumb, but I mean,
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it was Phil that tweeted
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: they saw just Poyer around as byan. Hoyer did not
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: did head out to practice fields today in sweats, suffered
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: a concussion in Green Bay. Still not practicing. So I
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be I wouldn't be surprised if Poyer is the
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: backup from here on in, I would not be surprised
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: at all. I mean, Zappy, Yeah, I mean not to
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: pick on Brian Hoyer, but like he's here to basically
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: be a coach to Mac Jones and to Bailey z
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: Appy at this point too. So no offense. But if
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: he's on IR, he can still help him, right, So
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: put him on IR every year? Right? Yeah? Um, Emailer says,
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: no disrespect to your current podcast team, but when Andy
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: stops by, he intensifies the mood. But I do realize
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: that he's like Heroin to you guys. You can only
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: take him in small doses. But the thing about Andy
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: is that he he does that a lot. He'll start
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: off and then the second hours he's run out of steams,
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: like a kid who's on candy and just crashes. Well,
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: I just thought funny. Like off air, ninety percent of
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: the conversation was like about Andy butting heads with various
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: people that he had to work with in a good way,
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: in a good way, uh ding ding Barth comes, Rick's
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: broke down some Fredonia State film. Maybe, um, maybe we'll
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: get Alex just before the show. We'll get a little
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: cross over with Alex on here, but not not yet.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: So I just want to see what they're gonna argue
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: about today. Can you guys wait ten minutes for you
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: to get my popcorn? Everything everything? Rick and Louisville writes,
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: and I'm curious to what you guys think about the
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: Patriots taking a backseat among the national media. You don't
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: hear any mention of us among the idiots with talk shows.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: I kind of like not being on people's radars. They're
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: talking about other teams in that group of twenty two
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: that Paul was referring to earlier. I did here Colin
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  Speaker 1: Coward the other day pick us in a shocking upset
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: over the Packers. Then a typical Colin form in his
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: next segment told told us why Belichick is taking us
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: in the wrong direction. Also, Fred, my mother has been
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: following your Game Day podcast and backs you up when
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: the haters come on the attack. Okay, you got haters
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: on that kid? Really they specifically come to hate? Oh wow?
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they come to me. Yes, some summer aimed
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: at me, um, but mostly just you know, I won't
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: stand for Oh yeah, no it, I love it, It's great.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: I don't. I won't stand for people can't make fun
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: and some of it just a show. But like you know,
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: the thousands of comments and come in. You used to
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: see the things that don't get posted. Oh yeah, do
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: you think we ever get a Bill Belichick reads mean tweets?
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: That would be an all time segment of him reading
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: like people. And then I have to be extra careful
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: because it's not what they'll do is they'll do something
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: in ocuus in their posts, but then their screen name
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  Speaker 1: will be Fred I after your mother or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: So I have to like, I have to like follow
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  Speaker 1: Fred I after your mother. It's funny. I have to
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  Speaker 1: be really careful because you know, like it's a good
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: like I've done that, Like I've posted something and then
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: oh my god, look at his screen name. You know,
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: why did I do that? Delete? You know? But gotcha.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: You have to be really careful, Yeah, you do. Fred.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: Nobody in the national media talks about the Patriots because
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: Bailey Zappy is boring except for his name. But we
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: had a whole conversation I ask having Actually that's a
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: that's a good bath question too, about about if his name.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: If his name was just Bailey Jo, it was Bailey Smith,
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: no one would be having this conversation. I'm telling you.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: I think it's a big part of it. They love
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: the name, the puns or z. I just think people
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: love the unknown. They love the next shiny thing. You know,
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: you see it all the time, just like that. Um.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: Someone in the Bayer on the topic of Horrier's concussion
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: and concussions in general, I just remember this. Do you
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: recall the defensive end Mike Wright, who suffered one bad
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: concussion in oh nine or ten, or ten. He's subsequently
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: retired after that. He couldn't be in a room with light. Yeah,
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: he was in. He had and I'm not saying that
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: that's where Hoyer is. And it's a great sign that
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: he's already out because I think Evan's right. That's his
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: value is to help the quarterbacks. Yeah, he was a
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: good interior Russia. He was a good, good, good little player.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: I'm already taking a lot of shots, Pauli's you know,
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: I'm sleeping over here. No, I I'm agree with you,
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: I say, I know, but they need Brian Hoyer to
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: be don't pick on the coaches. Oh, Joe, Judge, you're
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: getting static from the coaches. No Oh, how's that? Charlie
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: writes in I have a different take on why people
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: are pro Zappy. I feel like it comes less from
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: thinking Zappy is good and more from Pete feeling some
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: trepidation about Max's potential. To my untrained eye, the offense
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: with Zappy isn't that much different than it was with
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: Mac last year. To me, assuming Zappy is a backup
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: caliber ceiling, this inspires no confidence that Mac is the guy.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: I think we are seeing what a physically limited quarterback
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: can do in a modern offensive league, and that is
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: captain a running team to a nine and ten win
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: season and losing the playoffs, not compete with top teams.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: That being said, the Baltimore game was pretty encouraging, just
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: seeing some zip On throws from him interceptions aside. So
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know what, like I said at the top
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: watch last year's last year's Browns game, you know, I
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: think that's that shows you the difference from what kind
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: of players are. I agree with a lot of the email,
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: except for I didn't hear any of this before he
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: got hurt. Like if there were a lot of people
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: calling and saying, I'm not sure this is the guy.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: I think they might have to find another guy. I
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: don't think that. I think they might have to go
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: in the draft. I didn't hear very many people saying that.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: Not telling you didn't hear any but I didn't hear
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  Speaker 1: very many people talking like that until Zappy played. Then
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: Zappy played, and everybody's like, you know, I don't know
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: if Max's the answer. Okay, I mean, I do agree
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: that I think the offense that we saw Sunday was
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: similar to the offense that they ran on a lot
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: of games last year. I think Mac threw the ball
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: far more than Zappy did. And I said that about
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: the opening day, but I think the style of offense
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: was lean heavily on the run. If they get the lead,
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: you take your shots down the field. You know, when
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: we're in a good position and racking up some great
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: numbers in games that you win by one hundred points. Yeah,
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: if the conversation is that maybe this is giving you
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: some reluctance about Mac Jones, and that's a different conversation
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: than saying Bailey Zappy is better than Mac Jones. Yeah,
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: and that's what I thought. The guy articulated that well, right.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: But I think the problem is is that I felt
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: like we were going to move forward this year and
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: move away from what we saw last year, or even
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: to a degree with Cam Newton as well. And I
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: think that's where my frustration comes in, is because this
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: just looks like more of the same. Like this just
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: looks like an offense Dad is bringing a pea shooter
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: to a machine gun fight when they go and play Buffalo,
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: And it's like this is not gonna work, right, Like
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: this type of offense is not going to beat the
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: good teams in the AFC or in the NFC either
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: like the whole NFL, but in the AFC in particular,
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: even in your own division, Like you're not when two
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: comes back, if he does come back, like, you're not
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: gonna beat Miami like this. You're not gonna be Buffalo
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: like this. You're not gonna be Kida's city, but like this,
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: So we will not be able to beat the Jets
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: like this. So where are we going? You know where? Where? Where?
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: You know what happened to him? That's a play. Pretty
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: good ball right now? Not really hope. Okay, all right, Um,
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: let's bring in Alex right, bring him into yeah, because
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: we have do we have his walk up song? Yeah,
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: we'll have to share a mic with somebody, Paul will
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: maybe Paul will step aside, smoke a cigarette. Um because
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: you catch Catch twenty two debuted last week, and um,
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: go ahead, Alexeye. And so we have episode number two
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: coming up right after this show. So, Alex, what do
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: you think about the show, about the team, Like, just
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: about the show. I've been being back together with with
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: your cohorts. It's awesome. I said this when we opened
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: the show last week, and frankly, I can't repeat it enough,
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: the support we got in the excitement people had when
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: we announced the show is coming back, and even still
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: I think people are sort of discovering it in the
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: week since it's come out. Has just been unbelievable. To
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: do something that uh, you know, fans of the team,
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: and I grew up a fan of the team. I
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: consider myself a fan of the team. To be working
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: on something that fans find both entertaining and informative and
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: they want it to be a part of their fanhood like,
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: it means the world to me. I can't express how
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: how awesome it's been, seeing the seeing the response. What's
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: the biggest issue of the two of you disagree about.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing. Football are non football because football,
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: uh college football? Yeah, I think it's I love college football.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: I think it's a ton of fun. I also think
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: for people who are draft nerds like me and Evan are,
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: it's great to get ahead. You know, I don't know
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: how many times I tell so. Actually it's a perfect
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: example this time last year, Evan, you just gotta watch
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: one Western Kentucky game. There's his kid, Bailey Zappy sling
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: the ball all over the yard, he's putting. He looks
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: like did this conversation happen or not? He looks like
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: a Patriots quarterback. You've got to check this can out
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: the year before Evan, just watch Alabama Mac Jones. Just
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: watch what they happen. Those conversations happen. So I love
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: college football. He has no interest in it until February,
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: but it's so much. This weekend especially is gonna be great.
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: You know, Alabama Tennessee. There's probably at least one future
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: Patriot playing in that game. Um so that would probably
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: be it. Okay, because he's patting himself on the back
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: so much. I'm gonna just say this, the reason why
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: I don't get into college football in the fall is
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: because I have what's called a girlfriend and ball shot Saturday,
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: I spend it with Jess. There you go. I'm going
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: to truly enjoy my Saturday this week. And I thought
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: you said we weren't doing we weren't doing persont okay.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: And then final question for Alex's podcast video or no video.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: I think the people want video. I'll defer to the people.
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 1: I think the people like videos. Okay, we were very
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: big on YouTube before this because of my old employer.
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 1: So a lot of people on YouTube still looking for us.
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: If we have they're finding us slowly, but yeah, well
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: we're working on it all right. All right, So that'll
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: be it for Patriots Unfiltered. Thanks for listening. We'll be
• 1:59:37
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• 1:59:42
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