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- 0:11Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large nor Drunk Collider, the
- 0:14Speaker 1: podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
- 0:16Speaker 1: world around us and how very excited we are about them.
- 0:20Speaker 1: I'm aerial casting and with me as always is the
- 0:24Speaker 1: delightful Jonathan Strickland. Jazz hands. Jazz hands. You can't see
- 0:31Speaker 1: your jazz hands, John, Yeah, I can't see your jazz
- 0:33Speaker 1: hands either. We discovered that if we turn our cameras
- 0:36Speaker 1: off that we have slightly fewer technical issues. But it
- 0:40Speaker 1: does mean that even the visual gags we referenced and
- 0:43Speaker 1: you couldn't enjoy previously, we can't do anymore because well
- 0:47Speaker 1: we can. It's just now we're all in the same boat. Listen. Listen.
- 0:52Speaker 1: I'm gonna work on a way for us to either
- 0:53Speaker 1: both record our video locally or I'm going to get
- 0:56Speaker 1: an extender up to my new recording space, which is
- 0:59Speaker 1: super awesome, so that we can maybe get some video
- 1:03Speaker 1: clips because or maybe this is crazy. Maybe I'll make
- 1:10Speaker 1: it a point on Fridays to journey across the city
- 1:15Speaker 1: and we'll record in the same place at the same time. Listen.
- 1:18Speaker 1: That's like an like that's an epic trek for you.
- 1:22Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's significant, but it's all worth doing,
- 1:25Speaker 1: right like uh, and and besides which, it would be
- 1:28Speaker 1: one of those lovely things where we wouldn't have to
- 1:30Speaker 1: ever worry about their being dead air between the two
- 1:33Speaker 1: of us, and I wouldn't have to take out these
- 1:36Speaker 1: little tiny gaps in our audio because uh, there's always
- 1:41Speaker 1: like slight lag from our online recording. This is all
- 1:44Speaker 1: stuff that our listeners care nothing about, because I tried
- 1:48Speaker 1: my best to take it all out before they get
- 1:50Speaker 1: a chance to listen to it. That's fine. Do we
- 1:52Speaker 1: want to start to get No, no, no, no, they're
- 1:56Speaker 1: gonna suffer through it because sometimes sometimes you have to
- 2:01Speaker 1: you have to take your medicine before you're able to
- 2:05Speaker 1: get the treat. So that was the medicine part, and
- 2:07Speaker 1: your treat is thirty seconds or less, all right, So
- 2:16Speaker 1: I'm going to start off thirty seconds or less with
- 2:19Speaker 1: news about Violet Knight too. Yes, that movie that so
- 2:23Speaker 1: many people loved and I thought was just okay, the
- 2:26Speaker 1: not quite die Hard, not quite Home Alone, much more
- 2:29Speaker 1: violent and a lot less moral Christmas special. He is
- 2:33Speaker 1: getting a sequel written by the Sonic writers. Again, Um,
- 2:38Speaker 1: they're going to go They're going to pick up a
- 2:43Speaker 1: lot of storyline that I thought needed to be expounded
- 2:46Speaker 1: upon in the first movie. So maybe the second movie
- 2:49Speaker 1: I like more. Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't hold your breath.
- 2:53Speaker 1: But yeah. Also, you know, they were fully ready to
- 2:58Speaker 1: admit they got the the deal for a sequel before
- 3:04Speaker 1: they even had any notion of what a sequel might
- 3:06Speaker 1: look like. Yes, but I mean one of my big
- 3:10Speaker 1: what I had many big complaints about the movie, and
- 3:13Speaker 1: one of it was just like they had all of
- 3:14Speaker 1: these little story tidbits that we're not flesh out flesh yeah,
- 3:19Speaker 1: flesh yeah. And there's a lot of like Santa lore
- 3:22Speaker 1: that they didn't really get a chance to touch on
- 3:24Speaker 1: that they would probably come into play, I think, honestly,
- 3:27Speaker 1: because you said that, like and a lot of people
- 3:30Speaker 1: said that Violent Knight was a lot like die Hard,
- 3:32Speaker 1: the Violent Knight to should just be a lot like
- 3:34Speaker 1: die Hard to. I mean, honestly, if it could be
- 3:38Speaker 1: more like die Hard or die Hard to than uh
- 3:42Speaker 1: than what it was, I would be happy. Well, next
- 3:46Speaker 1: up is one of mine, and I'm going to start now,
- 3:48Speaker 1: and it's that Lord of the Rings. Fans rejoice because
- 3:52Speaker 1: starting February one, you will be able to watch all
- 3:55Speaker 1: three of Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings films on Netflix.
- 4:00Speaker 1: That's right, those three movies are coming back to Netflix.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Interesting thing. They've all been on Netflix before, but never simultaneously,
- 4:08Speaker 1: so this will be the first time that you'll be
- 4:10Speaker 1: able to do ah Lord of the Rings marathon on Netflix.
- 4:14Speaker 1: And I'm yes, all right. Next, we have news about
- 4:21Speaker 1: the reboot sequel to Fraser. Yes, not Bret and Frasier,
- 4:27Speaker 1: but Frasier, the nineties sitcom with Kelsey Grammar and uh,
- 4:34Speaker 1: I don't remember who played Niles anyhow. Now David Hyde
- 4:38Speaker 1: Pierced Yes, who will not be back for the sequel,
- 4:40Speaker 1: but now it's kind of about their kids and a
- 4:44Speaker 1: generational gap between father and son. Um. They've announced too
- 4:48Speaker 1: some of the kids are going to be including newcomer
- 4:51Speaker 1: Ander's Keith, as well as jess Selegio from Uh Salgueria
- 5:00Speaker 1: I don't want to mispronounce her name too poorly, who
- 5:03Speaker 1: was in um Why the Last Man will be joining
- 5:07Speaker 1: the cast. The premise sounds pretty cute. It sounds kind
- 5:11Speaker 1: of like a mix between a Different World and Frasier,
- 5:13Speaker 1: and so I'm fine with it. Yeah, me too. I
- 5:16Speaker 1: think I think it's good that they're taking like Frasier
- 5:20Speaker 1: was very different from Cheers, and I think it's good
- 5:23Speaker 1: for this series, which will feature the same character but
- 5:27Speaker 1: will also be very different from the two that came
- 5:30Speaker 1: before it. And I think that's a good thing. Yes,
- 5:33Speaker 1: I mean, unlike night Court, which is just the reboot
- 5:36Speaker 1: is just night Court, and I enjoy it. But yeah,
- 5:39Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't watched that. We'll have to chat
- 5:41Speaker 1: about some stuff we watched when we get through this section.
- 5:44Speaker 1: So up next is one of mine, and I'm gonna
- 5:47Speaker 1: go if you had visited Disney World, specifically Epcot over
- 5:52Speaker 1: the last say year and a half, you've seen like
- 5:55Speaker 1: this massive open pit and what used to be the
- 5:59Speaker 1: future were old section of epp Cut, And it's because
- 6:02Speaker 1: they're doing this massive, massive change to the front half
- 6:05Speaker 1: of ep Cut. And now the goddess Taffeiti from Milana,
- 6:10Speaker 1: or well Tafei from Mythology but featured in Milana has
- 6:13Speaker 1: taken shape as part of the Journey of Water, which
- 6:17Speaker 1: will be a walk through attraction that opens later this year. Nice.
- 6:22Speaker 1: I'm I'm glad we might eventually get an open Epcot again.
- 6:26Speaker 1: It's been a while. Yeah, yeah, it's been like the
- 6:30Speaker 1: last I think three times I've been. So I used
- 6:33Speaker 1: to be an annual pass holder. I am not anymore, um,
- 6:37Speaker 1: just because I couldn't really justify the expense. I wasn't
- 6:41Speaker 1: going enough to justify it. So anyway, the last three
- 6:45Speaker 1: times I went to Epcut, there were just so many
- 6:47Speaker 1: barrier walls up because there's just tons and tons of construction.
- 6:52Speaker 1: And if you ride the Mono rail into Epcot, it
- 6:54Speaker 1: takes you on a loop where you know, I mean,
- 6:58Speaker 1: there's no hiding it. You just see massive open area
- 7:02Speaker 1: of construction. And now at least they have some of
- 7:05Speaker 1: the structures. Like we've been waiting for months and months
- 7:09Speaker 1: for these things to start to come together, and it
- 7:11Speaker 1: seems like they're really rapidly coming together right now. And
- 7:16Speaker 1: and I love mo Wanna. I'm not a huge fan
- 7:20Speaker 1: of bringing more Disney I P into Epcut. I know
- 7:22Speaker 1: this has gone way over three seconds, and I'm sorry,
- 7:25Speaker 1: but I'm not a huge fan of bringing more Disney
- 7:28Speaker 1: IP into Epcut because that's not really what Epcot was
- 7:31Speaker 1: meant to do. But things change, things of all over time.
- 7:34Speaker 1: You've got to accept it. And I am glad to
- 7:37Speaker 1: see Mo Wanna get featured in Disney Parks because I
- 7:41Speaker 1: really like that that movie. I think so too, And
- 7:44Speaker 1: while I also prefer Epcot to remain like innovational and cultural,
- 7:51Speaker 1: although they could improve their cultural expanse um, I I
- 7:56Speaker 1: feel like Mo Wanna at least fits in with the
- 7:58Speaker 1: theme of the seas in the land and all that stuff,
- 8:01Speaker 1: so it's not completely out of left field because it
- 8:05Speaker 1: is going to be the Journey of Water, which is
- 8:06Speaker 1: all scientific, which is a little bit of Epcot. So yeah,
- 8:09Speaker 1: it kind of fits in with some of the themes
- 8:11Speaker 1: like the Life Pavilion and which doesn't exist anymore but
- 8:15Speaker 1: used to, and the Land Pavilion, that kind of stuff. Yeah. Um, okay,
- 8:20Speaker 1: onto my next story, which I had to open up
- 8:24Speaker 1: the article just to make sure I got everything right,
- 8:26Speaker 1: And there is this trailer for M three again playing.
- 8:28Speaker 1: Well now it's uh yes, it's just a bunch of
- 8:33Speaker 1: trailers and it needs to stop so it's not distracting me. Okay,
- 8:37Speaker 1: here we go a couple of weeks ago, and we
- 8:39Speaker 1: talked about a new show coming to Netflix, Lockwood and
- 8:41Speaker 1: Code that was done by the same person who made
- 8:43Speaker 1: Attack the Block, which was a movie that I haven't seen,
- 8:46Speaker 1: but I really want you and Jonathan really liked. Now
- 8:50Speaker 1: they are making Attack the Block to John Boyegas coming back,
- 8:53Speaker 1: and they are. While the first one was a low
- 8:55Speaker 1: budget and a low budget indie that really took off
- 8:59Speaker 1: the second one, they're caming for Terminator Too and Aliens
- 9:02Speaker 1: as far as feel and popularity, so I really hope
- 9:06Speaker 1: they do it. Um. Joe Cornerish makes really fun media
- 9:10Speaker 1: and I look forward to watching the original Antis Equel. Yeah,
- 9:13Speaker 1: and I you know the I don't know exactly how
- 9:16Speaker 1: to take the Terminator Too and Aliens. You could say,
- 9:19Speaker 1: all right, well, clearly both Aliens and Terminator two were
- 9:23Speaker 1: much larger budget films than the first film in the series.
- 9:27Speaker 1: Another thing you could say is both Aliens and Terminator
- 9:30Speaker 1: Too had a different tone, almost to the point of
- 9:34Speaker 1: being different genres from the first films in the series,
- 9:38Speaker 1: especially Aliens. Right, Alien is really a horror movie. Aliens
- 9:42Speaker 1: is really more of an action movie. And I kind
- 9:45Speaker 1: of like that idea too. I kind of like the
- 9:46Speaker 1: idea of Attack the Block to not only being bigger,
- 9:49Speaker 1: but maybe having a slightly different tone. And the first
- 9:52Speaker 1: film tackles some social issues I imagine the second film
- 9:55Speaker 1: will have to do that as well, and not in
- 9:57Speaker 1: a heavy handed way. It's just woven into the story. Yeah,
- 10:01Speaker 1: they did a lot of research and they put a
- 10:03Speaker 1: lot of effort into making it cohesive and uh flow well,
- 10:11Speaker 1: so and that you know is apparent. Yeah, all right,
- 10:14Speaker 1: my last one. Here we go sad day because news
- 10:19Speaker 1: that we figured was coming finally broke that Titans and
- 10:22Speaker 1: Doom Patrol are both going to have season four be
- 10:26Speaker 1: their final seasons respectively. Uh somewhat. Fortunately, the show creators
- 10:32Speaker 1: kind of felt like this was going to be the
- 10:34Speaker 1: way it was going to go to and had sort
- 10:36Speaker 1: of prepared that so that the back half of season
- 10:39Speaker 1: four could wrap up storylines so that we get a
- 10:42Speaker 1: definitive end. So at least we're going to have that
- 10:45Speaker 1: and not just to have it cut off at a cliffhanger. Yeah, okay,
- 10:49Speaker 1: I told I warned Jonathan I was going to have
- 10:50Speaker 1: something to add to this because you all know I
- 10:53Speaker 1: love doing Patrol. I I don't really like Titans that
- 10:56Speaker 1: I love Doom Patrol and I'm sad to see it,
- 10:59Speaker 1: and I'm glad they're able to end it. But a
- 11:01Speaker 1: bunch of people have been throwing a lot of fire
- 11:03Speaker 1: at James Gunn because of course all of the d
- 11:05Speaker 1: C stuff that they liked is stopping. There. Said at
- 11:07Speaker 1: James Gunn about the decision to cancel Joom Patrol and
- 11:10Speaker 1: Titans apparently came before he took over the reins. It
- 11:13Speaker 1: just hadn't been announced, so um, you know, and and
- 11:17Speaker 1: my husband. I was chatting my husband about it a
- 11:21Speaker 1: little bit because I was I'm super sad. I really
- 11:23Speaker 1: liked the show, and I know people who work on
- 11:24Speaker 1: the show and love it. Um, but my sister worked
- 11:28Speaker 1: on the show. Your sister worked on the show, as
- 11:30Speaker 1: well as some other artsy folk. But what I will
- 11:33Speaker 1: say is he told me, Hey, if James Gunn is
- 11:36Speaker 1: rebooting all of these universes and they need actors for
- 11:39Speaker 1: all of these new roles, then view it as another
- 11:43Speaker 1: opportunity for you to get an acting job. So, you know,
- 11:47Speaker 1: everybody spam James Gunn and tell him I should be big,
- 11:49Speaker 1: big Bertha. Well, and yeah, another thing is that we
- 11:54Speaker 1: might you know, we've already seen word of him potentially
- 11:57Speaker 1: using actors who were in previous DC properties populate the
- 12:03Speaker 1: new version of DC. Uh, but as totally different characters,
- 12:08Speaker 1: and that is kind of interesting too, and it was
- 12:12Speaker 1: one of those ideas that took me a while to
- 12:14Speaker 1: kind of come around on. But honestly, like, just look
- 12:18Speaker 1: at Chris Evans. The dude is played like half of
- 12:20Speaker 1: the superheroes out there. It's just we just associate him
- 12:24Speaker 1: with Captain America, so it should be fine. Yeah, I agree,
- 12:28Speaker 1: I agree. But if you are, hey, I'm going into
- 12:30Speaker 1: the last few seconds, if you are looking for some
- 12:32Speaker 1: more DC stuff to indulge on while your old favorites
- 12:37Speaker 1: are going away, We're getting a new animated movie Legion,
- 12:41Speaker 1: not the one we talked about last week, but another
- 12:43Speaker 1: one Legion of Superheroes. Uh. Clip has been released on
- 12:47Speaker 1: YouTube of it. It looks absolutely adorable. If you like
- 12:51Speaker 1: I watched Supergirl and didn't get the resolution of a
- 12:55Speaker 1: brainiac Supergirl romance like you wanted, it looks like they're
- 12:59Speaker 1: toying with that in this release to Blu Ray Animated
- 13:03Speaker 1: feature Cool. Well, and that is our thirty seconds or less.
- 13:09Speaker 1: It only lasted thirteen minutes, so I think we did
- 13:12Speaker 1: a good job. Hey, you win some and you lose some,
- 13:17Speaker 1: to be to be honest, y'all, Like moments before we
- 13:21Speaker 1: started recording, we made the executive decision to move a
- 13:24Speaker 1: story out of thirty seconds or less because we knew
- 13:27Speaker 1: that we were going to go on about it way
- 13:30Speaker 1: longer than anything we just discussed, and like the first
- 13:34Speaker 1: what five six minutes of this was intro and then
- 13:36Speaker 1: talking about how you can't see our jazz hands, which
- 13:39Speaker 1: is entirely pertinent to geek culture. Yeah, well, I mean,
- 13:44Speaker 1: come on theater, geeks, we we jazz hands are sacred. Uh.
- 13:50Speaker 1: Before we get into all the news, one of the
- 13:53Speaker 1: things we wanted to kind of touch base on was that,
- 13:55Speaker 1: you know, last week I talked about how I had
- 13:58Speaker 1: watched the first episode of Last of Us that absolutely
- 14:01Speaker 1: destroyed me, partly because I was anticipating what was coming
- 14:05Speaker 1: because I had played the game. I watched the second
- 14:08Speaker 1: episode and that one did not destroy me. I enjoyed it.
- 14:12Speaker 1: And there are some significant changes from what happens in
- 14:17Speaker 1: the game, and I think for the purposes of this
- 14:21Speaker 1: version of the story, all the changes worked. Like the
- 14:24Speaker 1: thing that I find phenomenal is that this is an
- 14:26Speaker 1: adaptation that continues to be a really good adaptation of
- 14:31Speaker 1: the video game, which is a rare thing to say.
- 14:33Speaker 1: But now Ariel has seen what just the first episode
- 14:37Speaker 1: so far, just the first episode, because it's so long. Well,
- 14:41Speaker 1: the second episode does not last an hour and a half.
- 14:43Speaker 1: It is closer to an hour. But yeah, that first episode.
- 14:46Speaker 1: I think originally they had talked about it being two episodes,
- 14:49Speaker 1: but it was hard to figure out where to put
- 14:52Speaker 1: a break. And also, I will say especially for shows
- 14:56Speaker 1: where because I'm actually watching this and then I have
- 14:58Speaker 1: a group watch that my friend started during the pandemic,
- 15:01Speaker 1: or get together once a week online and watch group
- 15:03Speaker 1: watch of shows We've started Hunters on Amazon um and
- 15:09Speaker 1: when you have a show, Both of these shows have
- 15:11Speaker 1: kind of difficult beginnings and difficult setups and they need them,
- 15:16Speaker 1: right because that's what sets the tone and the conflict
- 15:19Speaker 1: for the show. If you break it up into multiple episodes,
- 15:23Speaker 1: you might, like you said, if the second episode was
- 15:25Speaker 1: just as hard, you probably wouldn't continue watching Last of Us, right, Well,
- 15:30Speaker 1: I definitely would be thinking about backing out for my
- 15:33Speaker 1: own mental health. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because like I've had
- 15:36Speaker 1: friends who said that they are afraid to even start
- 15:38Speaker 1: the show because well, they thought the video game was brilliant,
- 15:41Speaker 1: they weren't happy playing it. They were miserable at the
- 15:45Speaker 1: things they had to keep doing and they don't want
- 15:47Speaker 1: to relive it. Um. But I mean that's fair because
- 15:51Speaker 1: those spoilers. But it's not like it's not like the terrible,
- 15:56Speaker 1: terrible thing that starts the whole series is the only
- 15:59Speaker 1: to horrible thing. There are a lot of other ones,
- 16:02Speaker 1: including a very pivotal one that I'm not looking forward to,
- 16:07Speaker 1: so I'm sure that's coming. What I will say, having
- 16:09Speaker 1: watched the first episode is one brilliant acting, brilliant uh cinematography.
- 16:17Speaker 1: I think that the balance of of scary, horror, tense, suspense, sorrow,
- 16:24Speaker 1: all that things, all the things you expect with Last
- 16:26Speaker 1: of Us are very well balanced with super relatable moments
- 16:33Speaker 1: that are lovable. Um, I didn't know what the heart,
- 16:37Speaker 1: not playing the video game and not looking at spoilers
- 16:40Speaker 1: for once, I decided I was going to tough it
- 16:42Speaker 1: through so I could give an honest reaction to what happened.
- 16:45Speaker 1: Honestly it was. I teared up a little bit when
- 16:49Speaker 1: the hard moment came in the first episode, but very briefly,
- 16:53Speaker 1: and I was over it, and I like I knew
- 16:55Speaker 1: something was going to happen, and I figured out what
- 16:57Speaker 1: character or characters if you aren't familiar, don't want to
- 17:00Speaker 1: spoil it too much. It was going to happen too,
- 17:03Speaker 1: But when it happened, I was surprised. It's not what
- 17:05Speaker 1: I expected. And because of that, I think it was
- 17:07Speaker 1: easier for me. I didn't have the same like mortification
- 17:11Speaker 1: going through the first episode that you've expressed John Well,
- 17:14Speaker 1: And I think part of it is that the unexpected
- 17:17Speaker 1: way that it happens. So when I was playing the game,
- 17:20Speaker 1: obviously I had no I had no idea of what
- 17:23Speaker 1: was going to happen. I didn't know that, you know,
- 17:26Speaker 1: how this was going to affect characters. I just assumed
- 17:30Speaker 1: that things were going to be hunky dory, okay for
- 17:33Speaker 1: for certain people, and it turned out that was very
- 17:36Speaker 1: much not what was going to happen. And the way
- 17:38Speaker 1: that the the hard moment unfolds, I know we're talking
- 17:43Speaker 1: super vague, but again, this is one of those things
- 17:45Speaker 1: that if you want to see it, you need to
- 17:47Speaker 1: see it with like with the ability to discover it
- 17:51Speaker 1: um but the way it unfolds to me it even
- 17:55Speaker 1: hit harder because not to give too much away, but
- 17:59Speaker 1: the unness necessary nature of it all made it much
- 18:02Speaker 1: more tragic. And if you also think about that in
- 18:06Speaker 1: terms of things that have happened in our own world
- 18:11Speaker 1: over the last ten years, like unnecessary tragedies that have happened. Uh,
- 18:18Speaker 1: it hits super hard because you're you're sitting there thinking like,
- 18:24Speaker 1: this was this was so avoidable, Not not on the
- 18:29Speaker 1: protagonists part they couldn't avoid it, but the other party,
- 18:33Speaker 1: it was so avoidable, and it it's it's like I say,
- 18:36Speaker 1: you know, it's like when you when you know the
- 18:38Speaker 1: outcome of a tragedy and you're watching the thing unfold,
- 18:42Speaker 1: you're wishing so hard for anything else to happen. Yeah. Yeah,
- 18:48Speaker 1: you're like, please change it, Please have them change it
- 18:51Speaker 1: right now in the script. Yeah, somehow, somehow the thing
- 18:55Speaker 1: that's already been shot, have that change right now. I
- 19:00Speaker 1: have legitimately thought that, like as I'm watching movies before
- 19:04Speaker 1: the same here. I mean, as I've been as I've
- 19:07Speaker 1: watched movies I have already seen and I'm watching it
- 19:11Speaker 1: a second time. I'm sitting there thinking that. But but
- 19:15Speaker 1: it is really interesting. Like I said, I I quite
- 19:18Speaker 1: enjoyed the first episode. I'm looking forward to getting to
- 19:20Speaker 1: the second. I know they're going to be hard things.
- 19:23Speaker 1: I feel like it's more balanced and the people are
- 19:26Speaker 1: more personal than let's say, the Walking Dead. Yeah. Yeah.
- 19:30Speaker 1: And and and also understanding why people are the way
- 19:34Speaker 1: they you, I mean, you specifically understand why Joel is
- 19:37Speaker 1: the way he is, Like you understand, yeah, he's he's
- 19:41Speaker 1: the one that Pedro Pascal plays and um, and you
- 19:45Speaker 1: understand why he is the way he is, and you
- 19:47Speaker 1: might not agree with all of his decisions, but you
- 19:50Speaker 1: understand why he's making them the way he is. Yeah, which, Okay,
- 19:53Speaker 1: I gotta i gotta make a slight aside and then
- 19:55Speaker 1: I'm going to get back. I'm going to get back
- 19:57Speaker 1: to this. Uh. There was an interview on tech talk
- 20:00Speaker 1: because yeah, I do the TikTok's uh with the Pedro
- 20:06Speaker 1: Pascal and then the actress who plays a girl whose
- 20:08Speaker 1: name is escaping me at the moment, but Bella I
- 20:11Speaker 1: think is something. Yeah, I know. But they were talking
- 20:15Speaker 1: about how people were calling Pedro Pascal a Zaddi, which is,
- 20:18Speaker 1: you know, like a sexy daddy but older. He's not
- 20:22Speaker 1: old enough to be a zaddie. He's only forty seven.
- 20:24Speaker 1: And like even when I was young, I was like,
- 20:27Speaker 1: for me, Zaddi's were like mid fifties to sixties. So
- 20:31Speaker 1: y'all just give him, give him some grace. He's still
- 20:34Speaker 1: pretty young. Yeah that means I'm also not in Zadi
- 20:37Speaker 1: territory yet, so y'all just calm yourself down. But it
- 20:41Speaker 1: is also interesting because, like I said, I'm watching Hunters,
- 20:43Speaker 1: which we talked about in an episode a long time
- 20:47Speaker 1: ago when the first season came out to It's an
- 20:49Speaker 1: Amazon streaming show about um, basically people who hunt and
- 20:55Speaker 1: stopped and killed Nazis in the seventies. It's a it
- 20:59Speaker 1: is super well done. It's a but it's very dark
- 21:03Speaker 1: and it's very hard to watch and there's a lot
- 21:04Speaker 1: of craftness in it because of the subject matter and
- 21:07Speaker 1: there and things like that. So I actually, as much
- 21:10Speaker 1: as I enjoy that show and I think it's telling
- 21:13Speaker 1: a good story, the first two episodes are largely set
- 21:16Speaker 1: up UM, and I think every episodes can going to
- 21:19Speaker 1: kind of be that way because it's plots unfolding and
- 21:23Speaker 1: subterfuge unfolding as it happens. I find Last of Us
- 21:27Speaker 1: easier to watch because it's fictional. Yeah, more fictional, yeah
- 21:32Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, there's there were actual Nazis and honestly,
- 21:37Speaker 1: there still are today like people at least who aligned
- 21:40Speaker 1: themselves with the Nazi philosophy. But as far as we
- 21:44Speaker 1: are aware, there are no fungal zombies running around, not
- 21:50Speaker 1: human ones anyway. Yes, yes, but not yes knock out
- 21:54Speaker 1: what Jonathan knock? I mean like, I haven't checked the
- 21:57Speaker 1: news since we start recording, But I'm just I'm maintaining
- 22:02Speaker 1: some optimism here. Yeah. Yeah, but I've also watched night
- 22:06Speaker 1: Court and if you just need something completely silly, I
- 22:08Speaker 1: don't remember if I talked about this last week. It's
- 22:10Speaker 1: dumb fun. It is literally just a reboot of night Court.
- 22:14Speaker 1: I think I did talk about it. So yeah, if
- 22:16Speaker 1: you watch Last of Us or Hunters or anything else
- 22:18Speaker 1: and you're like, I just need something fun, go and
- 22:19Speaker 1: watch Nichord. It's adorable. Yeah. I I still because I
- 22:24Speaker 1: don't have that's that's on Peacock, right, it's on Peacock,
- 22:29Speaker 1: but you can watch it on Hulu. Yeah. Those are
- 22:32Speaker 1: two things I do not have access to right now.
- 22:34Speaker 1: So so once again, my lack of access has meant
- 22:38Speaker 1: that I am not watching certain programming. But I've seen
- 22:42Speaker 1: little clips and and I get it, like it does
- 22:45Speaker 1: feel an awful lot like night Cored, which is interesting
- 22:49Speaker 1: because I'm curious how well it's doing because that style
- 22:53Speaker 1: of humor, it's it gets a little more than a
- 22:56Speaker 1: little corny, like it's like that super corny, sit calm
- 23:00Speaker 1: style from the eighties and early nineties. And I'm not sure.
- 23:04Speaker 1: I mean, maybe that flies fine today. I don't really
- 23:08Speaker 1: have a gauge for that. I mean, Fuller House was
- 23:10Speaker 1: a thing, so maybe Fuller House is a thing. During
- 23:13Speaker 1: the pandemic, Family Matters had a huge resurgence, so you know,
- 23:19Speaker 1: I think. I think it's just sometimes people need happy, fun,
- 23:24Speaker 1: slightly mindless, entertaining media. Yeah, I mean, I certainly do
- 23:30Speaker 1: on occasion. There there's a reason why I will fall
- 23:35Speaker 1: back on watching old episodes of Community, and it's because
- 23:39Speaker 1: sometimes I need some Troy and a bed in the morning. Shoot,
- 23:43Speaker 1: I still need to watch I've watched one more episode
- 23:46Speaker 1: since we said the Community is coming out, that I
- 23:49Speaker 1: got a lot of episodes to get through before this summer, then,
- 23:53Speaker 1: don't you. Well, I think they're actually said they were
- 23:55Speaker 1: going to start shooting it the summer, so you still
- 23:57Speaker 1: have a little more time. I do, which is good
- 23:59Speaker 1: because I still have all those Apple TV shows that
- 24:01Speaker 1: we want to watch and talk about, uh, one of
- 24:03Speaker 1: which we're going to talk about later in this episode.
- 24:06Speaker 1: So let's get back into some some news that we
- 24:08Speaker 1: have a little bit more to say on than our
- 24:10Speaker 1: supposed thirty seconds or less. Yeah, and first up is
- 24:15Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people, anyone who's a fan
- 24:17Speaker 1: of Rick and Morty has certainly heard about this, but
- 24:20Speaker 1: this was one that was really in the news big
- 24:21Speaker 1: time this week. Earlier this week we thought we would
- 24:24Speaker 1: touch on it, which is Justin Royland, co creator of
- 24:28Speaker 1: Rick and Morty, along with like Dan Harmon was speaking
- 24:31Speaker 1: of community, he was, he was the guy behind community.
- 24:34Speaker 1: Dan Harmon not not justin Royland, Justin Royland has been
- 24:38Speaker 1: essentially fired from Rick and Morty as well as from
- 24:41Speaker 1: Squatch Games, which is the game studio that put out
- 24:45Speaker 1: things like uh High on Life, the recent first person
- 24:49Speaker 1: shooter that was kind of a hit, got on game
- 24:52Speaker 1: Pass and got really popular. He's the one who does
- 24:55Speaker 1: the voices for both Rick and Morty, so he's got
- 24:58Speaker 1: that very like he does a ton of different character
- 25:01Speaker 1: voices for the show and for those games. Uh. The
- 25:04Speaker 1: reason for the firing is because of allegations of domestic abuse,
- 25:09Speaker 1: sexual harassment, lots of really disturbing stuff that has been
- 25:15Speaker 1: coming out over the last week or two weeks. Uh, terrible,
- 25:19Speaker 1: terrible things for anyone to do. So I think that
- 25:22Speaker 1: these organizations and shows and games and all this kind
- 25:26Speaker 1: of stuff, I think they're all doing the right thing
- 25:28Speaker 1: in cutting off their connection with him, because I mean,
- 25:33Speaker 1: these these sort of properties are what gave him a
- 25:36Speaker 1: lot of the power to pursue these sorts of bad
- 25:41Speaker 1: choices that have caused who knows how much trauma to
- 25:46Speaker 1: his victims. So terrible thing to hear. And I'm sure
- 25:50Speaker 1: there are a lot of Rick and Morty fans because
- 25:52Speaker 1: those are the most reasonable people on the planet. I'm
- 25:54Speaker 1: sure there are a lot of Rick and Morty plant
- 25:56Speaker 1: fans out there who are up in arms about this.
- 25:59Speaker 1: But come on, y'all, I mean, this is a legit
- 26:02Speaker 1: reason to part ways with somebody. Yes, yes, I agree,
- 26:07Speaker 1: I agree. Um, it'll be it'll be interesting to see
- 26:13Speaker 1: how everything turns out. Basically, I'm I'm not a fan
- 26:16Speaker 1: of Rick and Morty. Yeah, I mean it's I enjoyed
- 26:20Speaker 1: Rick and Morty. It is a hard show to watch
- 26:23Speaker 1: on occasion because it does have it does dance a
- 26:27Speaker 1: lot around nihilism, where you just have like nothing means anything,
- 26:31Speaker 1: and so why worry about anything? Like why even bother
- 26:35Speaker 1: putting forth an effort, Because if nothing means nothing, then
- 26:40Speaker 1: nothing you do matters. It doesn't matter if you do
- 26:42Speaker 1: a good impact or a bad impact. Nothing means nothing
- 26:44Speaker 1: in the long run. I'm like, that's so bleak that
- 26:47Speaker 1: I don't think I can stick with it for very long. Uh.
- 26:52Speaker 1: Individual episodes can be really entertaining, and I did watch
- 26:57Speaker 1: I think the first two seasons, but I fell off
- 27:00Speaker 1: after that. It is interesting to know that the show
- 27:02Speaker 1: is going to continue without him, which means that these
- 27:05Speaker 1: characters are all going to be voiced by different people
- 27:07Speaker 1: in the future. We don't know who. Um. So, I
- 27:10Speaker 1: guess if you do a really good Morty, you should
- 27:14Speaker 1: audition if you if you can get one. There are
- 27:17Speaker 1: lots of people who are really good at just doing impressions.
- 27:20Speaker 1: I think you probably won't even be able to tell
- 27:23Speaker 1: when it actually comes down to it that someone else
- 27:25Speaker 1: replaced him. Yeah. A friend of the show, uh Shay
- 27:31Speaker 1: told me that I should do it because I could
- 27:32Speaker 1: do a good Rick and Morty, And I said I
- 27:34Speaker 1: could maybe do a Morty, but I definitely can't do
- 27:37Speaker 1: a Rick because I can't burp on command, let alone
- 27:41Speaker 1: right in the middle of you know, select words. You see,
- 27:44Speaker 1: it's for me Rick and Morty. It's even less than
- 27:46Speaker 1: nihilism and more just gross. I don't think I don't
- 27:50Speaker 1: like grass cartoons. We we all know this. It's not
- 27:52Speaker 1: it's not we talked about last week. Yeah. Uh so
- 27:56Speaker 1: let's let's go from you know, what is not gross?
- 28:00Speaker 1: All of the animated feature films nominated for Oscars. Yeah,
- 28:05Speaker 1: the Oscars, those are gross, But the films that were
- 28:07Speaker 1: nominated Oscars are not gross. Now everyone knows that I
- 28:11Speaker 1: don't like awards, but yeah, we wanted to talk a
- 28:15Speaker 1: little bit about some of these things that were nominated
- 28:18Speaker 1: for the Oscars because, uh, there's some geek properties that
- 28:22Speaker 1: are represented in some of the nominations. Yeah. In fact,
- 28:26Speaker 1: I think that every Everything, Everywhere, all at once might
- 28:30Speaker 1: have the most nominations of all all the movies this year. Yeah.
- 28:34Speaker 1: I think they have eleven, which makes them puts them
- 28:37Speaker 1: in the lead. Yeah, and also nominated are uh The Whale,
- 28:43Speaker 1: which is not a geeky movie, but it's got Brendan Fraser.
- 28:46Speaker 1: So Fraser. Yeah, you're right, Sorry, Brendan Fraser. Uh so
- 28:52Speaker 1: automatically I'm rooting for him. Um, it's got Black Panthers nominated.
- 28:59Speaker 1: Angela Angela A. Bassett scored a nomination for Actress in
- 29:03Speaker 1: a Supporting Role for Wakonda Forever, which I still haven't
- 29:06Speaker 1: seen it, but it's coming to Disney Plus like in
- 29:09Speaker 1: next week, so I'll watch it soon. And if you
- 29:12Speaker 1: haven't watched everything everywhere all at once, it's on showtime
- 29:16Speaker 1: or you can actually some theaters are are playing it
- 29:19Speaker 1: right now, so like you go to the Positive Theater
- 29:21Speaker 1: and watch it right now. If I bought the four
- 29:23Speaker 1: K Blu ray to that without ever having seen the movie,
- 29:26Speaker 1: and I was so delighted by it. It was one
- 29:30Speaker 1: of those things where I'm like, gosh, I sure, hope,
- 29:32Speaker 1: but you know, like the cost of a DVD, it's
- 29:34Speaker 1: less than what it would have cost me to buy
- 29:37Speaker 1: two movie tickets, right, so it's hard to get or
- 29:40Speaker 1: it's just that you own it forever, you know, and
- 29:42Speaker 1: you're like, I hope I like this, but no, I
- 29:44Speaker 1: really liked it. It's really a charming fun uh and
- 29:49Speaker 1: original film and low budget like that's that's the great thing.
- 29:55Speaker 1: It doesn't. It doesn't look like it though. That's what's great.
- 29:58Speaker 1: I mean, neither did what was District nine District nine
- 30:02Speaker 1: blew me away, and that that was also lower budget
- 30:06Speaker 1: and an unknown director at the time, so uh, you know,
- 30:10Speaker 1: and the Oscars do like artsy things and things that
- 30:15Speaker 1: harken back to Hollywood. Hence that I haven't watched The
- 30:18Speaker 1: Fableman's Maybe it's amazing, but it's definitely about young kids
- 30:21Speaker 1: in Hollywood, and that it's got a bunch of nominations. Yeah,
- 30:24Speaker 1: there's a there's an ongoing joke that if you want
- 30:27Speaker 1: to get nominated for an Oscar, just make a movie
- 30:30Speaker 1: about making movies and that will do it. Because it's
- 30:33Speaker 1: so um. I was going to use one word, but
- 30:37Speaker 1: instead I'll say self congratulatory, which is a nicer way
- 30:40Speaker 1: of saying what I was going to say. It's really
- 30:43Speaker 1: interesting to me because usually under animated feature film, we
- 30:46Speaker 1: have like two Pixar movies, right, we technically have to
- 30:50Speaker 1: Disney movies this year that are nominated, but one of
- 30:54Speaker 1: them got very little Turning Red got, you know, very
- 30:57Speaker 1: little publicity, and Gamo de Toro's Panocke, you know, doesn't
- 31:01Speaker 1: exactly scream Disney, although I think it is it can
- 31:05Speaker 1: you watch on disneyse or just Netflix. I don't think
- 31:07Speaker 1: Yamo del Toro's is Disney and Disney at all. Yeah,
- 31:10Speaker 1: you're right, so so yeah, so Disney only has Turning Red.
- 31:14Speaker 1: The others are Yama do Toro's Pinocchio, Marcela Shellis Shoes On,
- 31:17Speaker 1: which is lovely because how delightful posting Boots, The Last Wish,
- 31:22Speaker 1: and The Sea Beast. Yeah. Yeah, I really like Turning
- 31:26Speaker 1: Red though, I mean, I don't know that it's Oscar worthy,
- 31:31Speaker 1: but it is a very entertaining and charming film. And
- 31:35Speaker 1: and Abby is my favorite character. She's much fun. Though
- 31:40Speaker 1: she be little, she is fierce. Yes. It is interesting
- 31:44Speaker 1: because when you go down to Best Picture there are
- 31:46Speaker 1: movies listed that it's like, did they have to put
- 31:49Speaker 1: this movie on the list because they have no other
- 31:54Speaker 1: They have no other nominations anywhere. But you also have
- 31:59Speaker 1: thinks like Avatar. The Way of Water is one of
- 32:02Speaker 1: the nominees for Best Picture. Everywhere, Everything Everywhere, All at
- 32:05Speaker 1: Once is also nominated for Best Picture. Top Gun. Maverick
- 32:09Speaker 1: has been nominated for Best Picture, which if you had
- 32:11Speaker 1: told me back in the eighties after Top Gun came
- 32:15Speaker 1: out that you know, like thirty more years later, you're
- 32:19Speaker 1: going to get a sequel to this and they'll be
- 32:20Speaker 1: nominated for an Academy Award for Best Picture. I would
- 32:23Speaker 1: have thought you were insane. So I liked Top Gun
- 32:26Speaker 1: back when I watched it. I barely remember it. I
- 32:29Speaker 1: haven't watched a new one, but apparently a lot of
- 32:31Speaker 1: people liked it, so I know that. Yeah. I mean
- 32:34Speaker 1: I heard a lot of people really enjoy that movie.
- 32:36Speaker 1: I still haven't seen it, and I have a feeling
- 32:38Speaker 1: that by the time I do see it, I won't
- 32:40Speaker 1: really appreciate it because it definitely feels like it was
- 32:43Speaker 1: the kind of movie that was made for the theatrical experience. Yeah,
- 32:47Speaker 1: I've got a question for you. Elvis is also nominated
- 32:49Speaker 1: for Best Picture and a couple of other things. Does
- 32:53Speaker 1: a bas Lerman movie about a music artist count as geekdom?
- 32:58Speaker 1: I mean, everything's geeky to somebody bas Leerman, Well, first yes,
- 33:03Speaker 1: but secondly, Basil Lerman I think has a devoted following
- 33:07Speaker 1: of of former and current theater kids. Because of Basil
- 33:12Speaker 1: Lerman's other work like Mulan Rouge and Romeo and Juliet.
- 33:17Speaker 1: Uh so maybe I have never liked Basil Lerman style. Uh,
- 33:23Speaker 1: it is just it is not it doesn't appeal to me.
- 33:26Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's bad, That's not what I mean.
- 33:29Speaker 1: I mean that I find it unappealing personally. And uh
- 33:33Speaker 1: and so I haven't sought out this film at all, Like,
- 33:38Speaker 1: I didn't have any interest in seeing it, because unless
- 33:41Speaker 1: Basi Lerman style has changed dramatically, I don't know that
- 33:46Speaker 1: I could really stomach the thought of watching an entire film. Yeah,
- 33:51Speaker 1: a couple other geeky movies that got nominations. Uh, I
- 33:56Speaker 1: agree with you on Basilerman. Sorry, I like that's that's
- 34:00Speaker 1: how I feel about bessler Man. My mind already went
- 34:02Speaker 1: off to something else. The Batman got nominated for music,
- 34:06Speaker 1: which of all the things in The Batman, that's what
- 34:08Speaker 1: I liked the best. And plus Onion got nominated for
- 34:13Speaker 1: Adapted Screenplay and sound and sound as well, which which
- 34:17Speaker 1: you know, like the sound design in The Batman was
- 34:21Speaker 1: very very good. Whereas Avatar The Way of Water, I
- 34:24Speaker 1: didn't like the sound of that. Everything sounded wet. That
- 34:29Speaker 1: was a joke. Yeah, because I haven't seen Avatara. It
- 34:32Speaker 1: took me a second was like, did you see it
- 34:34Speaker 1: and you didn't tell me? I'm going to be very
- 34:36Speaker 1: cross at you, John, of course, not like, dare you
- 34:39Speaker 1: not tell me everything that you do? And Plus if
- 34:42Speaker 1: I went to see it, I still haven't seen the
- 34:44Speaker 1: first one, so I'd mostly be going there thinking like, oh,
- 34:47Speaker 1: this is just like that ride at Animal Kingdom where
- 34:50Speaker 1: I have no idea what the hell is happening. It's pretty,
- 34:53Speaker 1: but I have no context, and so it means nothing
- 34:56Speaker 1: to me. On a on a recent episode of a
- 34:58Speaker 1: bim Bam, Justin mcilroyd talks about going to see Avatar
- 35:02Speaker 1: with the Way of Water and it's hilarious. If you're
- 35:04Speaker 1: also the family, you should watch it. Yes, he might
- 35:07Speaker 1: have done it well well, perhaps aided by medicinal um things. Yes. Anyhow,
- 35:20Speaker 1: that's how you get things like the Razzie Awards, which
- 35:23Speaker 1: we're going to talk about next. Yeah, So the Razzies,
- 35:26Speaker 1: and if you're not familiar, the Razzies are kind of
- 35:30Speaker 1: a tongue in cheek uh quote unquote awards show where
- 35:36Speaker 1: this group of folks pick out the worst of stuff
- 35:40Speaker 1: to come out in Hollywood. So a film that is
- 35:44Speaker 1: just a complete train wreck could get nominated for a Razzie.
- 35:48Speaker 1: Worst Performance is a category. It's you know, it's meant
- 35:54Speaker 1: to make fun of misfires essentially, and in some case
- 36:00Speaker 1: says like it's. In fact, on a lot of cases,
- 36:03Speaker 1: it can be a high profile, big budget film that
- 36:07Speaker 1: just didn't work for whatever reason. I have not always
- 36:10Speaker 1: agreed with some of the Razzies nominations. I felt that
- 36:15Speaker 1: in some cases I thought, wow, you're being unfair because
- 36:18Speaker 1: this movie was meant to be kind of a a
- 36:21Speaker 1: send up or something like. It wasn't meant to be
- 36:23Speaker 1: taken seriously, and to hold it to that is unfair.
- 36:29Speaker 1: But there's a different objection this year, Yeah, and that's
- 36:34Speaker 1: that they nominated a twelve year old actress, UH Ryan
- 36:38Speaker 1: Kira Armstrong for Worst Actress. She was in the reboot
- 36:42Speaker 1: of uh fire Starter, which is a Stephen King novel um.
- 36:46Speaker 1: The original one star Drew Barrymore and this one stars
- 36:49Speaker 1: Ryan Kira Armstrong and Zac Efron, and a bunch of
- 36:54Speaker 1: people said, you should you shouldn't do that to a
- 36:56Speaker 1: twelve year old one. It could hurt her career and too.
- 37:01Speaker 1: More importantly, when you're a kid, you don't always you're
- 37:08Speaker 1: still learning, right, and a lot of it is directorial
- 37:12Speaker 1: or writing choices, and you may not have the There
- 37:17Speaker 1: are some people like Michelle Nichols who could take any
- 37:20Speaker 1: script and make it art. Um. That takes years and
- 37:24Speaker 1: years and years of practice and knowledge and confidence, confidence
- 37:29Speaker 1: and fine tuning your craft. It's you know, I'm sure
- 37:32Speaker 1: there are twelve year olds out there who could do that. Um.
- 37:35Speaker 1: But it's it's just not a very kind or nice
- 37:39Speaker 1: thing to do. And I feel like that's a lot
- 37:41Speaker 1: of the Razzies. I used to enjoy them, but I
- 37:42Speaker 1: feel like it's a little too mean spirited. It's a
- 37:45Speaker 1: little too mean spirited. Maybe it's a product for a
- 37:48Speaker 1: bygone era at this point. Yeah, I agree, like the
- 37:53Speaker 1: the Razzies like when it's done really tongue in cheek,
- 37:56Speaker 1: like like, oh well this didn't turn out the way
- 37:59Speaker 1: you wanted it too, and it can be done in
- 38:02Speaker 1: a lighthearted way. You can have fun with it. I mean,
- 38:05Speaker 1: there have actually been actors who have shown up to
- 38:08Speaker 1: the Razzies and accepted their award in person and that yeah,
- 38:14Speaker 1: because they're like, yeah, you're right, that was a stinker.
- 38:17Speaker 1: That was not my best work, and thank you for
- 38:20Speaker 1: the award and like, you know, they have fun with it,
- 38:22Speaker 1: they own it. But yeah, it's different when you're a kid.
- 38:25Speaker 1: And I think there's no better way of thinking about
- 38:31Speaker 1: this than to consider the sad story of Jake Lloyd,
- 38:34Speaker 1: who played Anakin Skywalker in the in The Phantom Menace,
- 38:37Speaker 1: who also got nominated for a Razzie. Yeah, and don't
- 38:41Speaker 1: get me wrong, I hated his performance. I hate it.
- 38:47Speaker 1: I did not like that. I did not like The
- 38:49Speaker 1: Phantom Menace. I hated Jake Lloyd's performance in that movie.
- 38:54Speaker 1: At no point did I blame him because George Lucas
- 38:58Speaker 1: is a terrible direct It's true, he's a bad director.
- 39:03Speaker 1: When when your two directions are faster and more intense,
- 39:07Speaker 1: and that's it, you are a bad director. Work can
- 39:11Speaker 1: work for some things, but it definitely it doesn't have
- 39:15Speaker 1: ebbs and flows if that's what you're doing. McAuley culkin
- 39:18Speaker 1: also got had gotten nominated for three performances in when
- 39:22Speaker 1: he was still a kid. And yeah, so I think
- 39:27Speaker 1: the bigger problem I have is that originally, they the
- 39:32Speaker 1: runners of the Razzies kind of said she's she's only twelve,
- 39:35Speaker 1: but she is an experienced actress, and uh, you know,
- 39:40Speaker 1: so because she also was in uh Black Widow and
- 39:45Speaker 1: the Tomorrow War. Uh. But eventually they removed her from
- 39:50Speaker 1: the category and apologize, just like last year they got
- 39:54Speaker 1: rid of the worst category or the category force performance
- 39:57Speaker 1: by Bruce Willis. So like, I kind of I kind
- 40:01Speaker 1: of don't like that they got defensive at first. I
- 40:03Speaker 1: understand it, but I don't agree with it. But I
- 40:06Speaker 1: am glad that they are trying to make corrections when
- 40:08Speaker 1: they realize that maybe something they've done is more harmful
- 40:11Speaker 1: than funny. Yeah, I agree. I think being defensive it's
- 40:16Speaker 1: a natural reaction, one that you have to work to suppress.
- 40:20Speaker 1: I know personally, that's one of the things that I
- 40:23Speaker 1: really struggle with, Like if if I encounter so I'm
- 40:27Speaker 1: being nasty to me on Twitter, I have to I
- 40:31Speaker 1: have to actively suppress my desire to fire back, um
- 40:37Speaker 1: and and I don't always succeed. And so I agree,
- 40:41Speaker 1: like I wish that they had been able to withhold
- 40:45Speaker 1: that initial response, but the fact that they're actually trying
- 40:49Speaker 1: to make good on it now I think speaks volumes.
- 40:53Speaker 1: And I also agree. I think it's just as crappy
- 40:55Speaker 1: to dump on kids like just don't like don't because
- 41:00Speaker 1: you know, it's not their fault. Most of the time,
- 41:04Speaker 1: when a performance is bad, it's that, you know, for
- 41:07Speaker 1: whatever reason, the director was unable or unwilling to work
- 41:12Speaker 1: with the kid to get a good performance out or
- 41:15Speaker 1: whatever they wanted, And that to me just says that
- 41:18Speaker 1: the director really has fallen far short of where they
- 41:24Speaker 1: need to be. Look, and there are certainly kids that
- 41:27Speaker 1: have There's certainly kids that have, you know, a huge
- 41:34Speaker 1: amount of self confidence, and it can it can be
- 41:36Speaker 1: hard to break through that. You know. Um, kids can
- 41:40Speaker 1: think that they are right above adults so easily. Um.
- 41:44Speaker 1: But yeah, it's if you've got a good working team,
- 41:47Speaker 1: then you can work through that. Yeah. Well, now we're
- 41:51Speaker 1: getting to the news story. Believe it or not. This
- 41:53Speaker 1: is the forty minutes in. This is the news story
- 41:56Speaker 1: that was originally in the thirty seconds or less and
- 41:58Speaker 1: we moved it up to news and it's that Schmiga
- 42:01Speaker 1: Dune season two, which will begin in April, uh is
- 42:05Speaker 1: going to have the characters who are stuck in musical
- 42:11Speaker 1: world now transition into a world of musicals based around
- 42:16Speaker 1: the sixties and seventies era musicals, namely Chicago. So it's
- 42:21Speaker 1: going to be called Chicago. Yeah, and so because the
- 42:25Speaker 1: obviously the first one being Schmiga Dune, was a play
- 42:27Speaker 1: on Briga Dune, this one being a play on the
- 42:33Speaker 1: the Chicago musical. I thought the reason why I thought
- 42:36Speaker 1: we should move this over into full discussion is because one,
- 42:41Speaker 1: I am delighted that they're from one season to the next,
- 42:46Speaker 1: they're transitioning from one style of musical to a totally
- 42:51Speaker 1: different style of musical. And also it makes me excited
- 42:54Speaker 1: about what could potentially come in the future should there
- 42:57Speaker 1: be subsequent seasons of this show. And first off, let's
- 43:02Speaker 1: kind of talk about the differences between the classic era
- 43:07Speaker 1: of musicals, like the Rogers and Hammerstein era of musicals,
- 43:10Speaker 1: and then what we started to get in the sixties
- 43:12Speaker 1: and seventies. And so you think back on like the
- 43:16Speaker 1: big musicals of the classic era, stuff like Brigadoon or
- 43:21Speaker 1: My Fair Lady or The Music Man or Name or
- 43:27Speaker 1: South Pacific or Oklahoma all these things. Uh, they're these big,
- 43:32Speaker 1: lush musicals that are mostly wholesome, or at least they
- 43:38Speaker 1: attempt to be wholesome in the middle, Like they're not
- 43:41Speaker 1: very edgy. Most of these classic musicals. You know, there's
- 43:45Speaker 1: there's obviously there's there's conflict, because without conflict you have
- 43:49Speaker 1: no story. But they're not edgy romantic era. Yes, in
- 43:56Speaker 1: the sixties and seventies decided to get way more edgy
- 43:59Speaker 1: and and kind of sleazy and dirty. So the sleazy era, which,
- 44:07Speaker 1: by the way, if that sounded weird, it's because my
- 44:10Speaker 1: connection cut out right in the middle of my long
- 44:12Speaker 1: diet tribe about the history of musicals. But the sleazy
- 44:15Speaker 1: eras when we got things like Chicago, we got Cabaret,
- 44:19Speaker 1: which is very dark musical. Uh we we started to
- 44:23Speaker 1: get Sondheim's work, like early kind of dark and cynical work,
- 44:28Speaker 1: which would continue on throughout most of his career. And yeah,
- 44:33Speaker 1: it's a very different sound and style and theme from
- 44:38Speaker 1: the musicals that came before. It, much more cynical than
- 44:43Speaker 1: the kind of sincere musicals of the past. And so
- 44:47Speaker 1: I suspect that's going to really inform season two of
- 44:51Speaker 1: this show. Yeah, I I'm looking forward to to. I
- 44:58Speaker 1: I know, like the fifties and sixties generation of musicals
- 45:01Speaker 1: is outdated. There's a lot of you know, old school
- 45:05Speaker 1: lines of thought and storylines and plots in there, but
- 45:07Speaker 1: I still really enjoy it as a product of its
- 45:09Speaker 1: of its day and time. I like Chicago a lot Cabaret.
- 45:16Speaker 1: It's interesting that you're like the air of the sixties
- 45:18Speaker 1: and seventies was just kind of like grungier and grittier
- 45:22Speaker 1: and more crass, because like both two of two of
- 45:26Speaker 1: the uh musicals that you mentioned, Chicago and Cabaret, are
- 45:31Speaker 1: not set in the sixties and seventies. Well, no, but
- 45:35Speaker 1: then a lot of the musicals from the classic era
- 45:37Speaker 1: of musicals are set in like you know, early nine hundreds,
- 45:42Speaker 1: music Man, Oklahoma, that kind of stuff. That's true. I
- 45:46Speaker 1: there are lots of sixties and seventies musicals I like.
- 45:49Speaker 1: I can say, like I'm looking forward to the second
- 45:52Speaker 1: season of Spigadoon. I guess I'm looking forward to Chicago.
- 45:56Speaker 1: I don't know if you can call it the second
- 45:58Speaker 1: season of Schmigadoon. Uh, but I definitely it's not my
- 46:02Speaker 1: favorite era of of musical person. It's not my favorite,
- 46:07Speaker 1: But there are some like I think Cabaret is brilliant.
- 46:11Speaker 1: I think Chicago is entertaining. I don't think it's brilliant. Um.
- 46:15Speaker 1: I think, uh, you know, you get into things like
- 46:18Speaker 1: God's Spell, you know, you get into some other stuff
- 46:22Speaker 1: where like hair, you get into some musicals that are
- 46:26Speaker 1: a little more psychedelic, because that's also what you get
- 46:29Speaker 1: in this era, right, not just the sleazy grungy, but
- 46:32Speaker 1: the psychedelic and the spiritual musicals start to rise in
- 46:36Speaker 1: the sixties and seventies, and I wouldn't be surprised if
- 46:38Speaker 1: some of that plays out. Like if they have a
- 46:41Speaker 1: character who is kind of the hippie type character who
- 46:46Speaker 1: is is supposed to be sort of the stand in
- 46:49Speaker 1: for all the spiritual musicals. I think that could be
- 46:51Speaker 1: a lot of fun. But what this really has to
- 46:53Speaker 1: be excited for is that they're able to do a
- 46:57Speaker 1: third series of the show, a third season the show
- 47:01Speaker 1: that will get the spectacle musical season because you look
- 47:06Speaker 1: at the eighties, Oh my gosh, is it bombastic, over
- 47:10Speaker 1: the top special effects, huge sets, huge casts. Are you
- 47:15Speaker 1: Are you saying this because of Starlight Express? I think
- 47:17Speaker 1: that's seventies, but I could be wrong. Well, technically, yes,
- 47:20Speaker 1: Starlight Express was towards the end of the seventies. But
- 47:22Speaker 1: now I'm thinking I am thinking about a lot about
- 47:24Speaker 1: Andrew laid Webber, Like Andrew Lloyd Webber owned the early
- 47:28Speaker 1: eighties with like Phantom of the Opera and Cats. Goodness knows,
- 47:32Speaker 1: Cats dominated the discussion and musicals for a while. I
- 47:36Speaker 1: actually like Cats. I have seen Cats three times in theater,
- 47:42Speaker 1: like as in the actual full musical. It is the
- 47:45Speaker 1: first show I ever saw on Broadway. I never wanted
- 47:48Speaker 1: to see it, and I've seen it three times. I
- 47:51Speaker 1: mean again, I like the spectacle musical. You know. One
- 47:54Speaker 1: of the things I liked about seeing Beetlejuice over the
- 47:56Speaker 1: summer was the stagecraft that spect to go right. Yeah,
- 48:01Speaker 1: so um, I get that. I look forward to it too.
- 48:05Speaker 1: It's interesting to me because we're getting all of the
- 48:08Speaker 1: character all the actors we loved, Cecily strong Key, Allen Cuming,
- 48:13Speaker 1: you know, Jakokowski, Dove Cameron, all those people, christ and
- 48:16Speaker 1: chanow eppin More and Aaron Tvette, uh to vi it, toright,
- 48:21Speaker 1: thank you. But we are also getting Titus Burgess and
- 48:24Speaker 1: Patrick Page, and I don't I don't know either of
- 48:28Speaker 1: them would be the best hippie. Maybe Patrick Page. We're
- 48:31Speaker 1: getting oh my god, oh my god, oh a base
- 48:38Speaker 1: hippie like not Bassis and b A S C. I
- 48:41Speaker 1: mean b A S S that guy like so he
- 48:45Speaker 1: was Hades in Hades Town in the original cast, and
- 48:48Speaker 1: his voice he can go so low it is like
- 48:53Speaker 1: it will rumble your seat, that's how low he can
- 48:56Speaker 1: get his voice to go. Um. And he recently left
- 49:00Speaker 1: the role of Hades on Broadway after after essentially being
- 49:04Speaker 1: with that show with every iteration once it had started development,
- 49:08Speaker 1: all the way to going to Broadway. I could gush
- 49:11Speaker 1: about him forever. Also, did you know that he married
- 49:15Speaker 1: the woman who was the host of Trading Spaces on
- 49:19Speaker 1: uh TLC way back in the day, whose first name
- 49:22Speaker 1: is Page, so she's technically Page Page. I didn't know that,
- 49:25Speaker 1: but that is delightful. Um. I'm excited about Titus Burgess.
- 49:29Speaker 1: I love him. I didn't know who he was until
- 49:32Speaker 1: Kimmi Schmidt. Yeah, but he played He played Sebastian the
- 49:36Speaker 1: Crab in the Broadway version of Little Mermaid. Yeah, yeah,
- 49:40Speaker 1: he said a bunch of stuff. He auditioned for The
- 49:42Speaker 1: Lion King a bunch of times, and I feel a
- 49:44Speaker 1: little bit feeled him there because I also auditioned for
- 49:46Speaker 1: the Lion King. I did not get it. They were
- 49:48Speaker 1: not looking for my type at all. Uh, it was
- 49:50Speaker 1: the touring show. I wanted to be a hyena that
- 49:54Speaker 1: didn't happen. It's fine, it's fine. She's totally over it now.
- 50:00Speaker 1: I'm totally over it now. I mean everything in my
- 50:03Speaker 1: You know, you have experiences in life, and they always
- 50:05Speaker 1: lead up to where you are now. And I'm happy
- 50:07Speaker 1: where I am now. I love the life I've had
- 50:10Speaker 1: so far, and I look forward to everything in the future.
- 50:12Speaker 1: So that's just a wonderful, cool experience in the long
- 50:15Speaker 1: list of experiences I've had. That being said, if they
- 50:18Speaker 1: don't get to the Julie Taymor era of musicals within
- 50:22Speaker 1: this series and they don't bring Titus Burgess back for
- 50:25Speaker 1: the Lion King, I will be sorely disappointed. Yeah, well,
- 50:29Speaker 1: I think about it like this opens up so many
- 50:31Speaker 1: other Like I never thought that this was how they
- 50:34Speaker 1: were going to go. Firstly, because that whole classic era
- 50:38Speaker 1: of musicals, there's so many you could touch on. Like
- 50:42Speaker 1: they obviously took inspiration from the biggest names in those
- 50:46Speaker 1: those musicals, but there are a lot of other ones
- 50:49Speaker 1: that are out there that they could have tapped into
- 50:51Speaker 1: as well. So the idea of going forward in that
- 50:54Speaker 1: and potentially doing it again and maybe even again means
- 50:58Speaker 1: that like three seas from now, we can look forward
- 51:01Speaker 1: to the jukebox musical version of Schmick a Dune, Yeah,
- 51:07Speaker 1: which will come with a whole host of technical ramifications
- 51:10Speaker 1: that they have to work through. Um. I'm delighted because honestly,
- 51:15Speaker 1: I wasn't sure when Schamiga Dune came out if we
- 51:17Speaker 1: were only going to get one season. Yeah, like because
- 51:20Speaker 1: some shows, some shows are built that way. It's like,
- 51:24Speaker 1: we have this fun idea, but it's a mini series
- 51:26Speaker 1: because that's all we've got. So I'm so delighted. I
- 51:32Speaker 1: you know, I absolutely love I'm still missing Gallivant. Um. Yeah.
- 51:36Speaker 1: I actually bought that on DVD so that I could
- 51:38Speaker 1: watch it whenever I wanted to. I love that show
- 51:42Speaker 1: so much, um, and I'm really looking forward to it,
- 51:45Speaker 1: and also also to have to get go into Chicago
- 51:50Speaker 1: into that sixties and seventies era with Alan coming on
- 51:53Speaker 1: your cast. How perfect. I mean I saw Allen coming
- 51:57Speaker 1: in Cabaret and so yeah, I will forever be kicking
- 52:04Speaker 1: myself that I wasn't sitting on an aisle where he
- 52:06Speaker 1: came out and picked people to dance with. And I
- 52:08Speaker 1: couldn't dance with Ellen Guming on stage at Broadway. Yeah,
- 52:12Speaker 1: I have a friend. I have a friend who has
- 52:14Speaker 1: done a few fundraiser things with him, and she always
- 52:17Speaker 1: talks very highly of him. That's cool. Yeah, I'm also
- 52:21Speaker 1: very curious to see his his character in the show Traders,
- 52:25Speaker 1: the reality show murder mystery thing that I'll talk about.
- 52:29Speaker 1: I don't even know what like. I still don't know
- 52:31Speaker 1: what to think about that. Well, for one thing, he's
- 52:33Speaker 1: speaking in his normal, his actual accent, which is you're
- 52:37Speaker 1: like what, yeah, uh, well, you know you're really looking
- 52:42Speaker 1: forward to Chicago, And now I know because there's a
- 52:46Speaker 1: new trailer out that has completely addressed all of our
- 52:51Speaker 1: concerns for the live action Dungeons and Dragon's movie. So
- 52:56Speaker 1: you're looking forward to that now too, right, Ariel more
- 52:59Speaker 1: than you? I mean, that's fair. Probably everybody is looking
- 53:03Speaker 1: forward to it more than I am. So uh. Jonathan
- 53:06Speaker 1: watched this new trailer before I did. I was like,
- 53:10Speaker 1: am I just losing my sense of humor? They? I
- 53:12Speaker 1: know they put jokes in here, but they just aren't
- 53:14Speaker 1: very funny to me. And when I watched it, I
- 53:17Speaker 1: agree that the jokes that they put in there were
- 53:19Speaker 1: not funny. Taken out of context, I could see how
- 53:23Speaker 1: they might be humorous in a story where I have
- 53:27Speaker 1: already learned the characters and I am in the middle
- 53:29Speaker 1: of their journey with them. But I do feel like
- 53:32Speaker 1: this trailer, taking those jokes out of context made it
- 53:34Speaker 1: not funny. That being said, I am really looking forward
- 53:39Speaker 1: to um Renee Sean Page and um gosh, Justice Smith.
- 53:49Speaker 1: I do like their banter back and forth in the
- 53:53Speaker 1: in the trailer, I think Justice Smith looks like the
- 53:55Speaker 1: most fun character so far. I don't know is that
- 53:59Speaker 1: I get his name right. Maybe Honestly, at this point,
- 54:03Speaker 1: I've given up on this movie. So um I so.
- 54:09Speaker 1: So there's one gag. It's it's at the end of
- 54:12Speaker 1: the trailer, right, and that's you want people when they're
- 54:14Speaker 1: seeing the trailer, you want that last shot to be
- 54:17Speaker 1: your your, your hook. That's definitely gonna hook them to
- 54:20Speaker 1: come and see the movie. And the gag is that
- 54:23Speaker 1: you have a character who's explaining that the path forward
- 54:27Speaker 1: has this massive trap associated with it and they have
- 54:30Speaker 1: to be very careful. And meanwhile, in the background, you
- 54:33Speaker 1: see that one of the characters is moving forward, takes
- 54:36Speaker 1: one step onto this bridge, the whole bridge collapses, and
- 54:40Speaker 1: then the guys like I triggered the mechanism or I
- 54:43Speaker 1: think I may have triggered the mechanism. And I'm like,
- 54:45Speaker 1: it's an old, old joke. You see it coming from
- 54:49Speaker 1: a mile away because we've seen movies before. If you
- 54:52Speaker 1: if D and D is your first movie, first I'm sorry,
- 54:55Speaker 1: and second maybe it'll surprise you. But otherwise it won't.
- 54:59Speaker 1: And I couldn't even muster up a chuckle. I mean again,
- 55:04Speaker 1: it fell a little flat. I I look more forward
- 55:11Speaker 1: to seeing certain people play the characters in their play
- 55:13Speaker 1: that they're playing, Like Chris Pine playing a rogue then
- 55:17Speaker 1: or whatever. He's playing a bard, yeah, which is brilliant.
- 55:22Speaker 1: You know. He was also the prince in in the
- 55:24Speaker 1: movie version of Once Upon Uh into the Woods ha,
- 55:29Speaker 1: the the like the the theatrical movie, not the Bernardette
- 55:33Speaker 1: Peters brilliant stage. Yeah. So like I look forward to
- 55:40Speaker 1: seeing them in those characters. The storyline hasn't grabbed me,
- 55:42Speaker 1: the jokes don't look great. I'm still going to see it.
- 55:45Speaker 1: If I can go in expecting nothing, I'm hoping it
- 55:49Speaker 1: will at least hit Van Helsing level of entertainment for me. Yeah,
- 55:55Speaker 1: I mean I think it could definitely hit Van Helsing
- 55:58Speaker 1: level quality. You listen. I enjoyed that movie, okay, and
- 56:07Speaker 1: it all goes it all. It all comes down to
- 56:10Speaker 1: what expectations I set going in to see a movie. Well,
- 56:14Speaker 1: let's talk about a totally different trailer we also saw
- 56:17Speaker 1: this week, which is for a very different kind of movie,
- 56:21Speaker 1: and that was the trailer for She Came from the Woods.
- 56:24Speaker 1: Because it's not a week unless Jonathan makes me watch
- 56:27Speaker 1: a horror trailer. Now. To be fair, I feel like
- 56:31Speaker 1: this horror movie is almost like a horror comedy or
- 56:35Speaker 1: maybe a horror with some comedic elements to it because
- 56:39Speaker 1: it opens like it's wet, hot American summer. It does,
- 56:44Speaker 1: but you see, Okay, so I have thoughts on this,
- 56:46Speaker 1: and this is exactly where my thoughts are. They're playing
- 56:49Speaker 1: it like it should be a a wet, hot American
- 56:52Speaker 1: summer horror like it it should be a dark comedy, right,
- 56:58Speaker 1: But it doesn't look funny all They play fun, happy music,
- 57:03Speaker 1: but there's no humor in the trailer to me, just
- 57:06Speaker 1: because they try to set that tone, like, none of
- 57:08Speaker 1: the scripting leads to that for me. I mean, you've
- 57:12Speaker 1: got the little kid who's being very rude to the
- 57:15Speaker 1: counselor as the kids walking along on crutches. Um, So
- 57:20Speaker 1: like there's there's like some stuff there where I'm like,
- 57:23Speaker 1: I think I see where they're going. Maybe the trailer
- 57:26Speaker 1: is trying to lean into that too hard, and it's
- 57:29Speaker 1: trying to make it into something that's not kind of
- 57:32Speaker 1: like how like when I think of trailers that ended
- 57:35Speaker 1: up being a bad representation or maybe ultimately a good
- 57:39Speaker 1: representation of the movie Suicide Squad, the not the James gunwin,
- 57:43Speaker 1: but the first one is one I think about where like,
- 57:48Speaker 1: because the trailer got a big reaction, they actually the
- 57:51Speaker 1: studio went back and recut the film to be more
- 57:54Speaker 1: like the trailer, which did not do the movie any favors. Um.
- 57:59Speaker 1: And we've seen other movies where the trailer that you
- 58:02Speaker 1: get is not necessarily a good representation of the film.
- 58:07Speaker 1: In some cases, it's because the film itself is very
- 58:10Speaker 1: hard to market, Like it's how do you market this movie?
- 58:13Speaker 1: And you may just have to be like, well, we're
- 58:15Speaker 1: gonna have to do a bait and switch because we
- 58:17Speaker 1: can't market it the way it is. And maybe that's
- 58:20Speaker 1: the case with this one. Um. But yeah, it didn't
- 58:23Speaker 1: it didn't look well, it didn't look particularly scary. To me,
- 58:27Speaker 1: I mean, we've so the kid on crutches wasn't really
- 58:32Speaker 1: funny to me. And maybe I'm having the reaction you
- 58:36Speaker 1: had to the D and D trailer with this, because yeah,
- 58:38Speaker 1: they started it, and the way that it was edited
- 58:40Speaker 1: and the way that it was scored felt like it
- 58:42Speaker 1: should have some funny punches in there at the very
- 58:46Speaker 1: least Cabin Cabin in the Wood, she came from the woods. No,
- 58:50Speaker 1: I'm saying, at least similar to Cabin and Oh Got
- 58:53Speaker 1: You Got You, Got You Got You, which was very scary,
- 58:56Speaker 1: but also had some very funny self self reference a
- 59:00Speaker 1: moments in it. Um, but it was written just like Friday, like, yeah,
- 59:05Speaker 1: there were Bradty kids. But in any camp horror story
- 59:09Speaker 1: with which we've had many, you know, children's camp is
- 59:13Speaker 1: a great place to set a serial killer or a
- 59:15Speaker 1: scary ghost or whatever. That's why people tell ghost stories
- 59:18Speaker 1: at them. I've never been to a children's camp, like
- 59:21Speaker 1: a sleepover camp like that, but um, you know it's
- 59:24Speaker 1: it's a big part of it. It just it felt
- 59:29Speaker 1: just like a horror movie with there. It didn't feel
- 59:31Speaker 1: like they actually put in any jokes. To me, It's
- 59:34Speaker 1: what it felt like was at least the trailer. The
- 59:37Speaker 1: trailer felt like what the trailer was trying for was wet,
- 59:39Speaker 1: hot American summer meets Blair Witch project. That's kind of
- 59:43Speaker 1: what I came away from. I didn't think it did
- 59:46Speaker 1: either successfully. I didn't think that. I didn't think it
- 59:49Speaker 1: was coming across funny enough to be a comedy, And
- 59:51Speaker 1: it didn't look it didn't look inventive enough to be
- 59:57Speaker 1: an interesting horror movie. It might be a very good
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: version of what it is, which looks like kind of
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: you know, a ghost in the woods or some supernatural
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: force in the woods, stalking camp counselor movies, and as
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: you say, areeal. We have had a whole bunch of
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: these over the years. Yeah, the eighties had like thirty
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: of these movies. So, um, I don't know if it's
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: going to do anything new with the formula to make
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: it stand out. It may just end up being a
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: decent version of that kind of story. But yeah, I
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: don't think it really nails the super scary horror or
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: the very funny, dark comedy kind of stuff in the
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: last Yeah, in the last ten years, wasn't there. I know.
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: I watched this, there was like some horror comedy that
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: came out that was about like a theater summer camp
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: that was kind of funny. I don't remember. I don't
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: think i've seen that one. It was like a B
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: level movie. I'll have to if anybody out there knows
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: what it is, good on you if you want to, yes, hey,
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: riff for a bit, because I'm gonna look look it up. Okay, Well,
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: I'll just say that theater Camp is a horror all
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: by itself, and you don't need anything else on top
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: of it other than a bunch of theater kids all
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: in a camp at the same time, because that's gonna
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: get scary in ways you don't anticipate. Stage Fright was
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: the name of it. I had not heard of this movie.
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: I'll have to look it up now. It uh started
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: Ali McDonald, Douglas Smith, Mini Driver, meat Loaf and Brandon
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: euroanoits or whatever from several years ago. It's from two
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: thousand fourteen, So I said about ten years ago. It's
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: really dumb. It's not a good movie. It's like a
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: B movie. But it was entertaining this I think because
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: I saw that that's what I wanted. She came from
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: the woods to be from the opening riff, and that's
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: not what it was. Uh. Speaking of trailers that are
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: successful or not, did you think this m TO trailer
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: was successful? I wrote in the notes that said, I
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: think this trailer is better than the first one in
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: the sense that it gives me a little bit of
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: a better appreciation of what is going on in the
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: second movie, beyond just shots of people turning into their
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: heroic versions and then going all PS four battle scene, um,
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: which we've seen a billion times, both in d C
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: and in Marvel. Marvel is really guilty of this. We've
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: talked about it how Marvel movies often can be really
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: entertaining and then you get to the last fight and
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: it all kind of just turns into a video game. Um.
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: That was the problem I had with the first ZAM trailer.
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: First trailer four Sheasam to. I can't say the first
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: Sheasam trailer, but but yeah, this one I felt gave
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: us a little bit more about the conflict going on
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: and about how Billy Is is struggling with what is
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: in front of him. And I appreciated this trailer more.
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: It still doesn't make me want to watch the movie.
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: I watched the first one and I thought it was fine.
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: Um as for d C standards, I thought it was great,
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: Beau because it because compared to other DC movies it
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: was joyful. But um, halfway it was halfway joyful. Well,
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: if you compare it to the stuff that came before it,
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: you compared to Batman versus Superman, it was it was
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: positively a day at the State Fair compared like the
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: villain eating people's heads off day at the State Fair
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: with a pez dispenser. So um. But yeah, this this
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: one I thought was a better trailer. I I don't.
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: It's not gonna get me into the theater to see it,
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: which is unfortunate because again, this is definitely one of
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: those movies that's going to benefit from the theatrical experience
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: because there's a lot of spectacle involved. But it's as
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: I get older, spectacle is not enough to tempt me
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: into the theater. I get it. I will say for
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: this trailer for me, I found she'sam One very the
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: first she'sam So, she'sam one uneven. Some of it was
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: delightful and funny, and some of it was super dark,
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: and so I was like, who is this for? But
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: but the second one looks a little bit more evenly balanced. Um.
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: I think going into it knowing how the first one was,
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: I'll enjoy it more. I agree, I think it's it
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: looks a little bit better to me than the first one. Um.
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: I also see how if they were going to take
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: this movie to wrap up the Chasam storyline, how they
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: could do it. Um, which gave me this random thought
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: as I was watching the trailer of like, well, Jami's
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: Gunn is coming in, which means She'sam's probably going away.
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: They haven't. I don't think they've announced it yet, but
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: you know, we're all expecting that. But that's got to
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: be a good thing, because the kids who play Billy
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: and and everybody else aren't gonna be kids much longer.
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: And then what do you do? Do you recast them?
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: Because part of the whole stick of Shazam is that
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: half of it as a kid. Yeah, yeah, Like, the
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: the character of Billy Battson can turn into this incredibly
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: like Superman level powerful hero by harnessing the power of
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: the gods. And yeah, if you, if you, if you're
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: not a kid anymore, then that takes away a major
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: part of what was identifying factor for the comic book,
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: but yeah, well, um, we'll have to see, Like I
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: don't I honestly, uh, I'm not sure if I saw
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: anything yet about their not being another Shazam, but I
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: want to say that I did see something like that.
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: If I didn't, that it's just because I anticipate that's
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: what's happening. I mean people have been speculating. I I honestly, Uh,
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks haven't kept up with all
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: of the d C news that's coming out other than
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: other than the the thing that Doom Patrol got canceled
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: and that James Gunn is like, hey, guys, I get
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: it that decision was made before me. Yeah. Well yeah,
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: because when you watch Doom Patrol, it feels like a
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: very James gunn Ish kind of series, Like it's got
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: a lot of the same sort of humor and edge
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: to it that James Gunn projects typically have. You watch
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: Doom Patrol and you watch you know, uh, Peacemaker, and
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, these two things feel like they could
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: exist in the same universe. Yeah, which I'm interested to
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: see what happens after season two of Peacemaker. Yeah, yeah, no,
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: no doubt, no joke. That's a no doke. No no,
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: I look, it's because you're you're thinking of our next
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: the next thing we want to talk about, which is
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: we have a ghost trailer. And doke is between joke
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: and ghosts. That's true, and you never want to joke
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: between a ghost. It's just it's rude. Yeah, yeah, to
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: plasm everywhere. We Have a Ghost is a film that's
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: a a comedy drama film and it involves a family
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: moving into a house and finding out that that house
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: is haunted by the ghost of David Harbor, and and
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: then finding out that the ghost is not necessarily malevolent.
- 1:07:22Speaker 1: Ghost doesn't really know why it's a ghost, doesn't have
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: much memory, can't speak, so unfortunately we won't. I wonder
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: if David Harbor was paid scale for this, because he
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: doesn't have any lines. Um. I am certain that he was,
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: because if you look, if you don't have to have
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: lines to be paid scale, I'm just gonna say that
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: you can still be a a meaner supporting character of
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: co star and just not have lines. It depends on
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: how your role factors into this story. Yeah. So he's
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: um obviously a central part of this, and the feeling
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: I got from this trailer was like, take take a
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: a ghost story and combine it with Harry and the
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: Henderson's and you kind of have we have a ghost. Yeah,
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: it looks fun and dorky, but it looks fun and
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: I'm going to take that back. He's definitely getting paid
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: above scale. You know, he is well. And the trailer
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: shows that, like the world finds out the ghosts exist
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: because the family is posting videos of the ghost and everything,
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: and that brings in government folks who are there to
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: try and capture the ghost. And meanwhile they're the kids
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: are willing to help the ghost. And it's which is
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: why I think it's very Harry and the Henderson's or
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: et like it feels like it it's falling into those
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: kinds of stories where it's it's kids trying to help
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: someone or something that is, uh, that is outside the
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: realm of normal for humans, and then the government is
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: is the bad guy that's coming into try and capture
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: the unique thing. Also, this is where we get to
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: see Captain America versus the Red Guardian for the first time,
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: actually versus Anthony Mackie. Uploads of appears that Anthy Maggie
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: uploads a video of the Ghost, which causes lots of problems,
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: so you could say this, okay, maybe maybe it's team up.
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: But also also in this movie supporting cast Jennifer Coolidge
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: and Tick Nataro, So yeah, a whole bunch of different
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: comedic stylings altogether. I once passed by tig Nataro. Are
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: you sure you sure it wasn't just our friend Lie Up,
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: because she does remind me of her a little bit. No,
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: it was Tig Nataro. She she was in our office
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: at Pont City Market, which we no longer are in
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: Pont City Market, but she was there to do an
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: interview I think, with the stuff you should know guys.
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: And I passed by her as I was walking out
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: to go get lunch. Didn't I didn't want to interrupt her,
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: didn't wanna, you know, throw her off or anything, didn't
- 1:10:02Speaker 1: want to bother her. So I just very quietly passed by.
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: I didn't say anything, but yeah, that was my brush
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: with Tig Nataro. I am, I'm I'm really sad that
- 1:10:14Speaker 1: there's not another season of Under a Rock with Tig Nataro.
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: I love just she has such an amazing, um dry
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: sense of humor. Yeah, and the fact that she's never
- 1:10:26Speaker 1: seen anything just makes it so funny. When she's interviewing
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: people she has no idea who they are. But but
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: it's not in like that insulting Larry King in a way. Anyway,
- 1:10:37Speaker 1: we have a Ghost. I thought it looked I thought
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: the trailer looked cute, and I will watch it when
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: it comes out on Netflix. I will watch you too. First.
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: I'm going to watch you people, and then I'm going
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: to watch We Have a Ghost. M One of those
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: is out already. And our last story is a feel
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: good story because an audience who went to see a
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: special screening of the Mummy. We're not talking about them
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: Cruise one, We're talking about the one with Brendan Fraser,
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: were treated to a surprise guest, that being Brendan Fraser himself,
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: who came to the theater and addressed the audience, which
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: was really cool and was really sweet about how that
- 1:11:16Speaker 1: film really gave him lots of opportunities and the fact
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: that it has a special connection with the UK, yeah,
- 1:11:23Speaker 1: which is where they filmed it. He showed up in costume.
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: It was adorable. You know, this is this is a
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: guy who I think when he showed up the nominations
- 1:11:33Speaker 1: for Oscars had already come out. Um, and so you
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: get nominated for an Oscar and then you just go
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: show up at a little showing of a movie you
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: did in the nineties. That's just the coolest thing to me. Yeah,
- 1:11:46Speaker 1: I thought it was really a nice treat. And the
- 1:11:49Speaker 1: fact that like he still embraces uh, this movie, which
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: you know, I think it's it's easy to say it's
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: a fan favorite film like people love and for good reason.
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: Is an entertaining adventure movie. We don't we don't get
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: a lot of those, Like we get a lot of
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: like mediocre adventure movies, but we don't get a lot
- 1:12:10Speaker 1: of really entertaining ones. And The Mummy definitely was able
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: to kind of straddle the line between comedy, adventure, horror,
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: Like I had a lot of these different genres that
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: were all kind of part of the movie. In fact,
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: Brendan Fraser talks about that when he's in front of
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: the crowd. He says, yeah, how do you even market
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: a movie like that when you can't even classify it?
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: But but you know, the fact that he's still very
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: happy and humble about all that is really cool, you know,
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: as opposed to Like, occasionally you get actors who don't
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: want to acknowledge stuff they did earlier on in their
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: careers that maybe helped propel them to greater stardom, but
- 1:12:51Speaker 1: perhaps they're not super jazz about, like it's not like
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: it's you know, awards worthy or whatever. I mean, it
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: could be. Um, I mean, but we talked about last
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: week how he would love to be in in some
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: more Mummy movies. So maybe this is just a way
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: of him drumming up interest and trying to get that
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: social push behind it, which is so very smart. Yeah,
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: it could be. Uh, you know, I honestly don't know.
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: He has a very he has a very practical way
- 1:13:19Speaker 1: of looking at the the business of show right, Like
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: if you listen to interviews with him, he has a
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: very pragmatic kind of point of view of how all
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: that works. So you could very well be on the
- 1:13:32Speaker 1: money with that that assertion. Yeah. Uh, but you know,
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: that's all the that's all the things we got to
- 1:13:41Speaker 1: talk about. Yeah, this was a really long episode because
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: we had the little little glitch in the middle. Well
- 1:13:47Speaker 1: you better take that out. Well I'm gonna take it out,
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: Like I just I don't know how bad it is yet, Like,
- 1:13:53Speaker 1: I won't know until I download the clips and then
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: I'll be like, well, I'm gonna be spending forty five
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: minutes just trying to get these these two halves of
- 1:14:01Speaker 1: the show to line up. Well, Uh, I appreciate you
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: doing that, Jonathan, And if you all out there appreciate
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