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INTERVIEW: Luke James & Jacob Latimore On Dynamic Roles, 'The Chi' New Season, Relationships + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning,
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  Speaker 1: everybody in Steve j Envy, Jess hilarious. I mean the
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  Speaker 1: guy we are the Breakfast Club. We got some special
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  Speaker 1: guests in the building. Yeah, you know, from the shot
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  Speaker 1: to shot returns made tenth we have Jacob Batimore and
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  Speaker 1: Luke Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely welcome.
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  Speaker 3: Y'all been doing the show so long, you went from
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  Speaker 3: linear television to streaming.
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  Speaker 4: And now we're super grateful.
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  Speaker 5: Man, like, man, this is beyond what we expected. You know,
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  Speaker 5: it's just every season we're like, man, it's just the
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  Speaker 5: last one.
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  Speaker 4: It's our last round. But you know, it's been going,
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  Speaker 4: it's been going. We're really excited, especially for a black show.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, around for six seasons out here for sure, all
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  Speaker 6: of television, we're still here. Yeah, I mean that's you know,
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  Speaker 6: that's a testament to our writers, to our creator, a
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  Speaker 6: wave and common to our cast.
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  Speaker 2: And to our fans. You know what I mean. It's
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  Speaker 2: just in us continue continuing to expand, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and we're still growing, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 5: That's like usually see and sixty on, like the decline
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  Speaker 5: is slowing down, but season six is our biggest season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, what I mean, it's.
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  Speaker 4: And shout out to Paramount plus. We excited to be
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  Speaker 4: on a new platform.
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  Speaker 1: Man, absolutely, they kne who was here earlier this week,
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  Speaker 1: Mortisen saying that he's in the shot.
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  Speaker 4: How I was working with Man, We just we just love.
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  Speaker 4: I don't have any scene. I'm mad. I don't want
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  Speaker 4: to say too.
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  Speaker 5: Much, but you know, it is it is amazing to
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  Speaker 5: just kind of be in the same presence with them
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  Speaker 5: and just for them to be excited to be on
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  Speaker 5: our show because we've been watching them.
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  Speaker 2: This is these people grew up watching.
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  Speaker 6: These are people who you know, laid the foundation for
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  Speaker 6: us to even be right here talking about any of this.
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  Speaker 2: It's it is.
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  Speaker 6: It is a moment of reflecting, a moment to reflect,
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  Speaker 6: you know, just to be grateful and thank God just
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  Speaker 6: to persevering.
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  Speaker 2: And and having a dream and then looking at making
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  Speaker 2: it full circle.
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  Speaker 6: Man, to be working with people that you've been watching forever,
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  Speaker 6: it's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, it's been awesome.
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  Speaker 7: Spoke of y'all the same way about working with him,
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  Speaker 7: like he was so excited to work.
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  Speaker 5: With Yeah, we just we're just grateful. Like another one
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  Speaker 5: of our guest stars that we haven't even announced it.
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  Speaker 5: He texted me, he was like, Bro, this is the
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  Speaker 5: set y'all have.
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  Speaker 1: It's just it's.
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  Speaker 5: Blessed man like the energy from hair and makeup to wardrobe.
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  Speaker 5: So we just we're just grateful because it's not always
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  Speaker 5: like that, you know what I mean, Like it's every
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  Speaker 5: every set is different. You got you got people coming
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  Speaker 5: from all walks of life and coming together to work
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  Speaker 5: with each other for four or five months out the year.
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  Speaker 5: And you know what I mean, It's it's not always easy,
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  Speaker 5: but we were blessed.
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  Speaker 3: With the guest that text you.
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  Speaker 4: Why can't you say, yeah, he's special.
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  Speaker 6: It's a great reveal. Yeah, during the during the during
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  Speaker 6: the season. But I mean, you know, we got the great,
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  Speaker 6: the beautiful, brilliant, great Lynn Winfield. You know we got
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  Speaker 6: Leon gray Man, we Goton.
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  Speaker 3: I'll take that, and I take that like I'm talking
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  Speaker 3: about any other phenomenal. There's something y'all got, like the
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  Speaker 3: same aesthetic in a way.
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  Speaker 5: I receive that watching the means definitely deptations. I was
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  Speaker 5: definitely do that. Ain't nobody, Ain't nobody come to see you.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, nobody come to see man.
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  Speaker 6: And he's brilliant man to be working with him. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: I've had a lot of scenes with him, man, and
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  Speaker 6: it's just awesome. Bro, just to be able to sit
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  Speaker 6: across somebody.
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  Speaker 4: He's a cool dude, super I mean, like it's really real.
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  Speaker 5: He come on to the he come into the makeup trailers,
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  Speaker 5: he just got smooth.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, it's really leon like as hell.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna lean into that as I can a little,
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  Speaker 2: you know, get a little old.
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  Speaker 3: How change your lives though?
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  Speaker 7: What h.
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  Speaker 6: I got, I could I could pay for a house,
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  Speaker 6: life insurance.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 6: It's a it's a show that's grounded in reality. It's
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  Speaker 6: not exactly it's not completely escapism, and so we get
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  Speaker 6: an opportunity to not only stretch as artists, but as
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  Speaker 6: human beings.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 6: It's definitely deepen my wealth of empathy for just all
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  Speaker 6: walks of life, to just be able to hold space
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  Speaker 6: for everybody. And it's just opened my eyes to the
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  Speaker 6: world in the sense of how I thought. You know,
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  Speaker 6: I'm from New Orleans and I feel away about my
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  Speaker 6: city in such a way and that we're so different
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  Speaker 6: from anywhere else. And to be able to be smack
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  Speaker 6: dab in the middle of a show that is in
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  Speaker 6: a sense of a love letter to Chicago, to the
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  Speaker 6: South Side, to the people of the Shy, and also
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  Speaker 6: in a sense of protest to humanize black folks in
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  Speaker 6: the black experience.
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  Speaker 2: It's awesome.
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  Speaker 6: I've been able to dive into a different culture, which
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  Speaker 6: is you know, kindred to mine, you know, And that's
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  Speaker 6: I think the connective tissues and which is awesome about
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  Speaker 6: such a show. That's what it does for us. When
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  Speaker 6: when I'm in New Orleans and I'm watching The Shy,
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, like that's like here, it's not that
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  Speaker 6: much different.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 6: Everybody is just looking for a space to be seen
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  Speaker 6: and felt and protected.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean just going through the airports, being on
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  Speaker 5: the airplane and just i mean going to a restaurant.
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  Speaker 5: Just also seeing different different demographics, even enjoying the show.
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  Speaker 5: Like I was at a sushi spot. I ain't you know,
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, okay.
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  Speaker 2: No, ain't. No. Black people were good.
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  Speaker 5: And then just the way there was aging. He was like, man,
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  Speaker 5: you this guy from the shot. I'm like, oh wow.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, like he was like oh man.
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  Speaker 5: But it was like I'm like, I'm I'm shocked at
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  Speaker 5: the like the show is growing and then like my
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  Speaker 5: name is like I really like they say it, I'm like, yo,
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  Speaker 5: I like really, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Your character resonates.
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  Speaker 6: I mean if you watched from season one all the
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  Speaker 6: way to season six, I mean it, like just the
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  Speaker 6: growth in the character and whatnot. I'm just grateful to
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  Speaker 6: be a part of that, part of this lineage, part
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  Speaker 6: of this show. I mean, it's been awesome.
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  Speaker 7: How much input does Lena let you have, like with
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  Speaker 7: you know, a script, contributing to script or like the
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  Speaker 7: actual story, do you have any love?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we definitely, Like if I'll ask a question,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I like to respect the writer's room, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I mean, I definitely because we're here for
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  Speaker 5: a reason and what we got is working, you know
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  Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: So we let the writers do what they do. We'll
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  Speaker 4: have questions and say, hey, why did do this or and.
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  Speaker 5: It'll give me a better understanding of how to approach
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  Speaker 5: that scene that day and then they'll give me a
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  Speaker 5: better breakdown.
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  Speaker 4: But they're open to it.
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  Speaker 5: But I like to respect the lanes because I'm coming
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  Speaker 5: here to bring what they write to life, you know.
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  Speaker 6: So that's the challenge, that's the work, and that's why
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  Speaker 6: you get paid to be able to interpret. But also,
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  Speaker 6: you know, we live with these characters and we have
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  Speaker 6: you know, we can hear their voices when we read
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  Speaker 6: something we could you know, it's pretty open in the
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  Speaker 6: sense of like, oh, maybe not that particular word or
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  Speaker 6: that particular phrasing in that kind of way, or that
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  Speaker 6: particular action. But for the most part, yeah, it's we
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  Speaker 6: let the writers do what they do and we do
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  Speaker 6: what we do. And also they see the full spectrum
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  Speaker 6: for us, you know, because that's why every season is different,
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  Speaker 6: and they help us grow because sometimes you could just
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  Speaker 6: be stuck in this character in this space for where
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  Speaker 6: you just were and when you read it, and then
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  Speaker 6: when you're able to talk to Leana and everybody, they
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  Speaker 6: help you understand, Oh, okay, it's a new chapter. It's
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  Speaker 6: three years now, it's you know, months down the line,
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  Speaker 6: so he's different, you know. So you just got to
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  Speaker 6: let everybody do their job and we don't.
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  Speaker 5: Actually, I never feel like I'm coming back to the
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  Speaker 5: same character every year, you know, because that could be
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  Speaker 5: you could feel repetitive, like every season it has been
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  Speaker 5: different for me.
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  Speaker 1: Is there anything that you didn't want to do, like
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  Speaker 1: a kadem Hartis who was saying. He was like, he
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  Speaker 1: hated those glasses.
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  Speaker 5: He was hated them and maybe look goofye the first
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  Speaker 5: glasses were.
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  Speaker 1: One of the biggest things that's but he was like,
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  Speaker 1: and I think he only said they kept the glasses
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  Speaker 1: for one season or two seasons, but it had so
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  Speaker 1: much impact on it. And then it was like when
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  Speaker 1: it was time for him to grow, they were like,
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  Speaker 1: we want him to grow and he was cool with that.
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  Speaker 1: So is anything that they were we want you to
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  Speaker 1: do and he was like ah. And then they find
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  Speaker 1: up like, oh, you probably.
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  Speaker 5: Haven't had something like that since season one when they
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  Speaker 5: was like, had my hair blonde, tipping my hair is blinde.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, we gotta go blind, and we want
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  Speaker 4: aim to go blind if it feels young and youthful.
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  Speaker 5: But other than that, you know, we definitely get some
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  Speaker 5: say song like hey, I don't really like what I'm
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  Speaker 5: wearing for this, you know why am I wearing this?
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  Speaker 4: I'm in the house.
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  Speaker 6: There's a collaborative effort, but also also you know, they
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  Speaker 6: also have an initiative for for all of us, and
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  Speaker 6: you know, you know, we got a lot of youth
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  Speaker 6: on the show as.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and I hope they're from Chicago.
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  Speaker 5: That's the majority of our cast is from out to
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  Speaker 5: chamont or Mikey and Panado natives, you know.
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  Speaker 2: But there's also initiative. There's an initiative if.
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  Speaker 6: You want to direct, if you want to write, you know,
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  Speaker 6: there's they They've given us programs that we can align
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  Speaker 6: ourselves with when we're all for when we have time,
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  Speaker 6: that we can shadow other directors, writers, producers, and so
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  Speaker 6: that's that's the that's the operation.
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  Speaker 5: It's a different it's a different ball game when you
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  Speaker 5: say I want to produce something, you know, because I'm
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  Speaker 5: even learning, uh like, because we we show up to
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  Speaker 5: set the Red Carbs rode out for as our trailers
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  Speaker 5: have said, the lines are there, the wardrobe is there,
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  Speaker 5: but it's so much that goes on. It's it's prep
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  Speaker 5: going on way before we get there, and that's the
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  Speaker 5: work that that's that's the tough part. That's a different
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  Speaker 5: You can't just walk into that and be like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: I got it something you got to learn.
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  Speaker 3: How much is Leana still involved? Completely?
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  Speaker 6: Yea completely, ain't nothing going down with in a sense
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  Speaker 6: of like the creative aspect of it.
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  Speaker 2: Lena has her hands on it. On it all.
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  Speaker 6: You know, it's she just keeps us in line, in
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  Speaker 6: line with everything going.
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  Speaker 5: On and keep us motivated to like six seasons is
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  Speaker 5: like you know, we can people get comfortable, you know,
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  Speaker 5: like yo yo yo, table reads. That's not sound lazy,
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  Speaker 5: that's that's that sound up.
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  Speaker 4: We were up, We up.
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  Speaker 2: I need to pick up. We had We had to
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  Speaker 2: chop some things because someone someone you know, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean. Keep it real, that's what you that's
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  Speaker 2: what you want.
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  Speaker 6: And that's why the show lasts because it's no, nobody's
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  Speaker 6: just like sugar coating anything. We're really they're really asking
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  Speaker 6: for excellence out of all of us. You know, if
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  Speaker 6: you're gonna be on here, you're gonna give everything you got.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, no just.
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  Speaker 3: The final season because that's also been a room with that.
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  Speaker 3: This is different.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 4: We don't know y'all.
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  Speaker 5: Y'all no, well no, we literally just finished like maybe
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  Speaker 5: two months ago.
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  Speaker 4: But if we don't know that every year.
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  Speaker 1: Like that was the last season last year, we really.
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  Speaker 4: Be like yo, man, because I'm always prepped.
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  Speaker 5: I'm always ready to pivot that next job, you know, acting, man,
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  Speaker 5: we're just blessed, blessed to be working like this is
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  Speaker 5: we were We understand that a lot of actors are
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  Speaker 5: not working in the game right now, and it's it's
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  Speaker 5: it's heavy. So we just, you know, if we get
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  Speaker 5: another season, we grateful. If we don't, you know, we
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  Speaker 5: just we're grateful.
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  Speaker 2: We're grateful. The experience has been.
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  Speaker 4: To get past four or five is nuts.
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  Speaker 2: You get past a pilot, bro.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, let's just hypothetically if this was the last season,
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  Speaker 8: are you happy with how it turned out, with how
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  Speaker 8: it ended?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: My thing is I've always wanted for me as a fan,
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  Speaker 6: I've always wanted to see the kids at least move out,
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  Speaker 6: like just go on.
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  Speaker 3: I thought they should.
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  Speaker 6: And you know what I'm saying, because that's how much
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  Speaker 6: they mean to the show.
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  Speaker 2: And you never know.
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  Speaker 6: And it's good that you say that out loud, you know,
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  Speaker 6: because people listening. But you know, for me, I just
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  Speaker 6: want to at least at least if we go in,
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  Speaker 6: let's get the kids out the house into a space
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  Speaker 6: where it's like where as an audience, if we think
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  Speaker 6: about the show, we can just our imagination can go
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  Speaker 6: into a peaceful place where the kids survived after all
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  Speaker 6: of it, all the things for six seasons they survived,
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  Speaker 6: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 7: And with that being said, what was the hardest scene
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  Speaker 7: that you had to shoot, like emotionally for both of you.
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  Speaker 4: I want to say, I want to say, this is
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  Speaker 4: definitely my toughest season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is.
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  Speaker 4: It's just it's it's a lot of emotion.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's Yeah, the fans are gonna be on the
• 12:18
  Speaker 5: edge of the seat with this when nobody's safe.
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  Speaker 6: Nobody's say if it's a struggle for powers, to struggle
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  Speaker 6: for safety, to protect your family. I mean, there's a
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  Speaker 6: lot on the line, and we all all.
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  Speaker 2: Are tethered together, and.
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  Speaker 6: And in the sense we all have a commin enemy,
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  Speaker 6: and we all got our ups and downs like every season,
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  Speaker 6: but this one is really like asking a lot of
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  Speaker 6: all of us, all our all of our characters.
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty it's pretty heavy. No.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I even felt some days I had to kind
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  Speaker 5: of come in method because I'm usually high energy every day.
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  Speaker 5: So it was some days I'm like, man, I gotta
• 12:56
  Speaker 5: really just put them headphones on and lock in today
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  Speaker 5: because it's this scene is gonna require a lot. Yes,
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  Speaker 5: I'm happy though, I'm happy to do it on this
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  Speaker 5: show because most of the time has been very high
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  Speaker 5: energy and jokes and laughs.
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  Speaker 4: But it's getting real. It's getting real for.
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  Speaker 2: It's a new chapter for for all of us.
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  Speaker 3: Now, Luke, your character has a type on the show, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: transgender women that he likes dating. Was that a conversation?
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  Speaker 3: What was that conversation like when they presented that to you?
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  Speaker 6: That was that was the role when when the when
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  Speaker 6: the request for a self tape came, that was the
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  Speaker 6: breakdown of the character.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 6: So it's given to the artist. You know that this
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  Speaker 6: is who this is who he is.
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  Speaker 2: You know. For everybody you know, you choose to do
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  Speaker 2: it or choose not to do it.
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  Speaker 6: For me, I look at myself as an artist in totality,
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  Speaker 6: and it's a matter of asking yourself, what type of
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  Speaker 6: artists are you? You know, because you know it's it's
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  Speaker 6: a matter of telling the truth. For me, if I
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  Speaker 6: can breathe life into a character and be honest about
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  Speaker 6: everything that that I'm reading and needing to say, go
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  Speaker 6: for it. If it moves me in an emotional way,
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  Speaker 6: I'm all about it. And that's why I love about
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  Speaker 6: the show because it's just grounded in the reality of.
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  Speaker 2: What our lives are, what they really look like.
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  Speaker 6: And it's not trying to be this fantasy of what
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  Speaker 6: someone thinks it should look like, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: And now I was geeked about it.
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  Speaker 6: For me, it overall in totality, I think that the
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  Speaker 6: role for me, I've never I had never played a
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  Speaker 6: thug figure in that sense, and nobody understands how hard
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  Speaker 6: that is if that's not really who you are.
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  Speaker 3: That's a great point you bought, because nobody will say, Luke,
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  Speaker 3: you had to play a thug? Was that tough for you?
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  Speaker 3: But it's going to come to the transgender It's.
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  Speaker 6: Like, look, it's hard to be in love. Is it
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  Speaker 6: hard for you to be kind? Be a loving person
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  Speaker 6: who is just searching for safe space? And it's not
• 14:53
  Speaker 6: a thing, it's not even on the table. This character
• 14:55
  Speaker 6: that for him, it wasn't a thing on the table
• 14:58
  Speaker 6: for him. He it has just been living his life.
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: If you if you think about all the characters, we
• 15:02
  Speaker 6: all have these these ups and downs. Which is so
• 15:04
  Speaker 6: cool about this season. While we talk so much about
• 15:07
  Speaker 6: mental health within the season, we're not so we're not
• 15:10
  Speaker 6: preachy in our show, but but we're just going through
• 15:13
  Speaker 6: the motions as everyone does in real life, because we
• 15:16
  Speaker 6: all all value a safe space to be seen and
• 15:21
  Speaker 6: heard and felt and protected. And I'm really I really
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: like the nuances of such a character.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: How do you protect your pieces of man? I totally
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: understand everything you're saying is an actor, but we still
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: live in a dickhead era. Yeah, we got all these
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: digital dickheads will get online. Oh yeah, that's what you went.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: How do you protect your pieces of man?
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: Bro, I really don't. I really don't subscribe to it.
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: I don't subscribe to that is.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: I'm beyond that.
• 15:46
  Speaker 6: Like there have probably been, there was, there was a
• 15:49
  Speaker 6: moment in my life where that this I wouldn't.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't have done this role.
• 15:55
  Speaker 6: There's a moment in my life where I'm like, I'm not,
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: But never from an aspect of homophobia or anything like that.
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: From an aspect of my artistry. I don't know if
• 16:05
  Speaker 6: I don't know if my will is that deep enough
• 16:07
  Speaker 6: to to be as honest and truthful and as great
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: as I need to be in order to tell this
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: story and be well rounded.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: But you know, over.
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: Time, experiences, you know, more experiences of doing things, and
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: then the questions of asking what type of vessel, what
• 16:28
  Speaker 6: type of artists I want to be.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you get the opportunity. And then also you.
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: Have a creator that will text you as soon as
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: you send a tape in and tell you I'm holding
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: I'm going to hold a safe space for you.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: You know I got you, Yes, you know.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: This.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: This is gonna be awesome.
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: I got my hands on all of this, and this
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: is this is going to be a beautiful thing. And
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: I'm grateful for you to take a chance on this
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: and for me it's done again. It's deep in my
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: well of empathy. I just see the world differently, bro,
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: And I have no judgment. As an actor, you can't
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: really have to be able to tell the truth and
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: tell that character's story.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: You can't really judge it.
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: You just have to look at what they're what they're
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: going through, and say, damn, that's that's where he is.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: But you know, the thing is, like what he said
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: is you look at actors before your time, they didn't
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: have to deal with the social media no, right, But
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: now every day, like even if somebody didn't like your character,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: or let's say you did a bad job, it was
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: one day and gone. But now you got social media.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Every everybody's a critical day.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: Everybody.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Everybody's a critic. Everybody feels like they could do a
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: better job, but he did it, or they can tell
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: you what to do. So that's where the mental comes in.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: So to make sure that that doesn't affect you is
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: the thing. Because you want to do the character. You
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: don't want to be thinking about, well, what are they
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: going to say? You just want to do it a great.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: Character both of you and we just understood acting back then.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: I remember having a conversation with making good ones and
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: making good with saying how she has to be conscious
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: of the role she plays, because nowadays people think that's
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: actually you.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, very true, Like, huh, it's very true.
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: Now I'm completely different from like I have no kids,
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: don't deal with no baby mama drama, you know.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: What I mean a lot of productions.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, but it's like, you know, it's it's definitely
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: that though, And I've been learning that on this show,
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: Like man, people really approach us in that way as
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: if they know us because we live in their their
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: their homes with this show and it's crazy.
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: I mean, you do it so well that part of
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: that gotta be true. But people don't understand about acting
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: the beautiful therapeutic point of it, and the fun of
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: it is the transformation, like taking seeing a role and not.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Seeing yourself in it and seeing someone else.
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: In it and and seeing the challenge of understanding who
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: this human being is that is probably far from who
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: you are, your experiences or everything, the way you think
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: of the world.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: You know, I think I think it.
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: It just helps. It helps the It helps the part
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: and when you take the challenge of accepting it.
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's two sides of that. Like you said, like
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: you did such a good job, but it'll be like,
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: oh my god, is that really who is? And then
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: you as a critic, because I was a critic even
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: when I was younger. I couldn't stand Laurence Fishburne. After
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: watching What's Love Got to Do with It?
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I didn't seen him.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: And make sure you.
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: Know, sometimes people just do their job. They'd be like,
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: oh my god.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: And as an audience member, you gotta we got to
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: give the audience grace. We like, we understand what it's
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: like to be in the audience and watching. You know,
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: some of our favorite class achieved it.
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: You know, I believe it so much, but not like
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: the social media people. I mean just I didn't want
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: him to be beaten on Angela.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: That's just what it was.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: How much great actors get. Because there's been rumors that
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: they were actors who either left the shy or got
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: fired from the shot because they didn't want to play
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: a role they had the data transgender.
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: That's fine, given a lot of man, there's a lot
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: of is their body is their choice, you know what
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's their mind that they got to allow
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: to take that ride. It's because it is a thing
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: that you have to have a hold of who you are.
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: You know, you're playing these roles and and and these
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: things can get on you.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: And no one really changes but the superstardom, you know
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: what I mean, like to to all these eyes on
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: you and your mental one being young and being famous.
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: We're breaking a lot of stars on this show. You know,
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of of our our cast members very
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: first big projects, a lot.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: Of our first big projects. So we you know, we support,
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: we support that, we give them grace for sure.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: There's been a lot of people who come and gone
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: on this shot, like which which characters are acted you
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: all wish were still on the show.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm I missing man. I missing all, but.
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: I miss everybody. I'm gonna I'm a fan. I'm a
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: I was a fan of the show. We got on
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: it because this is my bro, you know.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: Our second project together.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, second, you feel me.
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: I miss everybody because everybody really did their thing for me.
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: As a fan watching the show I was in, I
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: was just enamored by everybody's position in the show. And
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: so when I came to the show when people weren't there,
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: that was a shock for me.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: But that you know, that's the.
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: Business, is what it is, and we moved We moved forward, and.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: Uh fully support the brothers.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, always, Well, I missed Jason Mitchell's character that he killed.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: He was killing that role.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: One hundred percent New Orleans.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: Hey, definitely all love to my b I tried to
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: stay in touch with him and give him a lot
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: of love always.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Man, we love you brother for real. And I'm Jason.
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: Jason is a fine brilliant actor, you know what I mean?
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: And only time will tell you feel me. That's we
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: all make mistakes and whatnot, and and that's why we
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: got to give each other each other grace and that's
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: why we talk about it.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: And that's you know what I mean, have they been He.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Talked about bringing back just in case this is.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: That's that's that's above our power, you know what I mean.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: We we we hear we employees of the shot, you know,
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: so it's uh, there's moving to the.
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: Producer real if I might be too late, but I
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: don't know.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: That's above our pay grade.
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: The lyric has has acting pasted your love for music?
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: No, you came singing him?
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: I know one way when he is in his acting
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: thank you? Okay?
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: Them was crazy?
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: What that's what bring up? But you know, I'm focused on.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Having a great year.
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: I know, music got me here, Music, new edition, all
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: of that that is from a that's my bridge. And
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: also it's my meditation, it's my it's it's it's it's
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: my prayer. I can't not do music, you know, every
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: other month, I always said, Johnny Gill hits me up
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: just to make sure I'm still recording, still nurturing that gift,
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: because that helped me get here and helped me understand everything.
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: You know, I can'not not have it, and now I
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: just can'tnot have both because financially with this, with this
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: new medium has done for me, not just you know,
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: personally as a human being and as an artist stretching
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: and whatnot. But financially, it's just put me in a
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: better space where I could have a family and I
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: can make music how I want to make music. I
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: can provide, you know.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: What I mean.
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: And I'm grateful. I'm truly blessed, and I do. I
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: do not take it for granted. I'm really really I mean,
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: we're doing exactly what we love every day.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: Putting our music when we want to. It is like,
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: it's incredible, especially when you got to you.
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: Step in music a few times and that what's up
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: with you and music?
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: I dropped a EP like five months ago called Closure
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: I'm real proud of, and then I have dropped the
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: Connection series album. So I haven't really dropped a big
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: body you work in a while. But I tell myself,
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: I'm like every year to drop something, you know what
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: I mean. I think that's important because there are music
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: fans that that wan't here for you.
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: You know, it takes it takes time, and you got
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: your own fans and your own brand and it doesn't
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: have to look like everybody else, you know, and for me,
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: that goes into like the Prince realm and to all
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: the all those artists who.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Found their the people, and then their people stay with.
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: Them whenever they put music out, like Maxwell, like the Angelo,
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: like Frank Ocean, like anybody you have your they got
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: their people, and you know it's they're able to do
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: other things and then dibble dabble back into music when
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: they do, and it got that core fan base that
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: will always be there.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Why close it sound like you broke up with somebody
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: very harshly.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I did you know?
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: I did?
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: You know, I think matter of fact, I think the
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: first time I came to the Breakfast Club, I was
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: getting out of it.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: I'm a relationship person. I love, I love, I love.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: So it's you don't need to hear that on the album.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: Hey, I had to put it out there.
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: I had to do what else, that's that's his diary.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: Actually, I actually put it out during the strike because
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: it was it was it was just time. I think,
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: you know that the show consumes our schedules like crazy,
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: So I was like, you know what, it's actually time
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: to just you know, put put Jacob out there versus
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: em you.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean?
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: And uh yeah, put that out there for one time and.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Then you feel about that.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know. I wish I love though,
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: you know, it's it's all love.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Are you the problem of the relationship.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't say I'm the problem. I wouldn't I'm the problem.
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: I just you know, problems just time and timing is everything,
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: you know. And I'm happy where I met, you know,
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: still learning.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: I'm still learning. I'm enjoying my singleness and.
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: Dayton, they say, are you at least? Yeah?
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: You know, it's it's cool.
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: It's it's different, you know, like actually playing dates and
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: going out. Hey, let's meet up for dinner, Let's talk,
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: you know, let's get to know one another.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: People want it's.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Tough, y'all and not Jacob.
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: And you know that's I talk with God every day, like,
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: just give me that discernment, Give me that discernment to
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: just know.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Who am I?
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Who is this?
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: Who is this?
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: You know, I gotta get to it. And I gotta
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: really get in that girl business too, like what you
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: do for a living.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah you know what I mean.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: Not that I'm not a fifty to fifty guy, but
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: you know, I need to know what you're doing.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: I got on.
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: I got to know that you got a lot going
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: on to and you got some aspirations and things and
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: goals and and things that will hold you accountable to
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: your actions and whatnot, and and that you see that
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: I'm I'm moving forward and you want to move forward
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: in your realm. And if we can keep that in harmony,
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: peace and love, we'll be all right.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: They have to be in the industry.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: No, okay, okay, No, yeah, I don't know if I
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: want to do the industry.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: No.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: I think I think you just need a person.
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: You need a person that just sees you, understands and
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: understands and it's open because we are in a fickle business.
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: It's up and down, you know, So understanding that part
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: understanding what we got to go through in our psychics.
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: A lot of rejection, there's a lot of nose. It's
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: a lot of just us pushing ourselves. We got our teams,
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: people that surround us, that love us, that keep us.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: But you know, this don't happen if he don't make
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: it go, you know what I mean, If he don't audition,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: if he don't put hisself out there.
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: And you you know, if you're with someone like that
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: in this business, you have to understand that there's ups
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: and downs that you know, depression could be. It's a
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: big thing, you know, just making yourself, putting yourself out
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: there in the world. You know, you got to sell yourself,
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: and so you need somebody that's gonna hold you down
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: no matter what.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: My mind must be clear.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so, Jake, you said you never date a woman
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: from the industry.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: Again, I wouldn't say that. I just you know, it
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: was just it's tough. It's tough.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: I think, I don't know, I don't know. I mean,
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: I still it's hard to say. It's hard to say it. Absolutely.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it'll never man.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Looks in when you're talking about old he seeing somebody.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: There's a thing, right, No, I do nothing wrong with
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: I watched Kingdom Business last night.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: I watched Kingdom Business last night.
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: I did.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: I wonder if she's gonna watch this. Did you hit
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: her and tell her she.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Did a good job?
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: I did not need to do all that. But you
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: know she knows she's killing it.
• 28:20
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I wonder if she's all that she's watching it?
• 28:28
  Speaker 9: You noticed absolutely, Okay, okay, okay, it's all all.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: I wonder if she knows.
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: She's happy you ain't in four years. No, it's been
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: maybe three three. I put it so I put a
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: studio recorded album out and that was Grammy nominated.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: That was to Feel Loved.
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: And then I did I reimagined that album with an
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: orchestra by the name Orchestra and ensemble by the name
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: of New Deco, and we put.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: That album out.
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: I've always wanted to do a live album, and that's
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: what we did. And so, yeah, it's been it's been
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: three years. It's been three years, man. But bro, I'm
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: I'm I'm I'm. I'm that type of drop I'll put
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: things out, but I'm also I've grown into that type
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: of artist.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I played the game.
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: Of, you know, trying to stay on the horse and
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: be out there and put your name out there.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: And and music music, music, music, music and whatnot.
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: But I'm grateful to still be here, sustained and constantly
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: growing and expanding. And it's humbling because you know, people
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: don't there's a lot of people that don't know I sing. Yeah, really, man,
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: it's humbling because.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: When and start dancing and singing and stuff, people.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Don't know new generation, not even new generation, bro.
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: That you'd be surprised how big the world is and
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: how much other people got things going on, and it
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: humbles you and your you know what I mean, you'd
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: be like everybody know.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: Me, you should know me, right, you gotta keep grinding.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: No, But there's nothing wrong.
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: With that because it's like, oh, there's so much more
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: to be discovered, and that's that's that reinvigorates an artist
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: that's been doing it for a while.
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it came you hungry.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Absolutely always.
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: Let's dive into Edmund game, yo, sure, yeah, please listen.
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: Let me tell you so season two, well, it's them
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: the scare season two of them. I've been trying to
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: give them to watch the first season. I love it.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: I watch it.
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: I'm now watching it, rewatching it because I wasn't supposed
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: to watch it without my way frant Black, Like I didn't.
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: I had to watch it again. I mean I got
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: watching it. I'm on episode eight right now again watching
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: my watch. What did it take for you to get
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: into that that role? It's so many layers to Edmund,
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: It's so it's crazy. Yeah, shout out to a little
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: more of it and lean away for that as well.
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: And some other writers that I do know, Malcolm maz
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: and Malcolm amazing, right, Yeah, what did you have to.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Pam Greer? Yeah, le Josh, Yeah, I mean we got
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: get something. We've got a lot of is all.
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: You know that that role came came to me man,
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: and you know every artist is I mean, it's hoping
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: for such a role like that, such a challenge, something
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: that's beyond you and scares you in a sense. But
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: also it just seems like so much fun to stretch.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: When I read it, I saw the human and I
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: saw the heart.
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: Of him and and and what he was going through,
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: and that resonated with me just my life people I know,
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: and I'm a fan of the show.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Season one, I mean shook me.
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: Right, and it's just it's top tier television. Is one
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: of the best shows on all of television. I don't
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: care quote me on that, at me on that. All
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: that it is, you can't beat it. And so to
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: get an opportunity to be a part of it the
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: second installment of it, I jumped to that. You know,
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: I'm an artist who wants to continue to stretch. I
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: want to move forward. I want to do one character
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: and do something beyond that character, beyond anything.
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: So I just have to let that that you can
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: do anything.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I'm grateful.
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: And then and then it's so funny because you had
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: asked him about like playing a thug. Nobody would ask
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: him if you know, like if playing a thug was
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: really hard. And I don't want to give it away,
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: but that is like that, that's actually what the character
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: caters to, like he wants to be an actor and the.
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: Edmond is an aspiring, struggling actor in Los Angeles.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: It's I mean.
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: This is crazy takes This takes place in nineteen ninety one,
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: you know in Los Angeles is the height after the
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: trial of Rodney King beating dudes getting off, so much
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: going on, and we were following Detective Reeves, who is
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: a black woman, uh, detective the only black woman in
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: her in her her unit Robbery Homicide played by Deborah
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: Urende was from first season, and she goes down this
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: road of trying to figure out this killer at this
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: at this Foster House, Foster Home did something crazy and
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: there trying to find who did it. And the more
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: and more she goes down that road, she realized the
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: biggest mystery is is herself. And I play a character
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: who is aspiring actor and just trying to get his
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: big break, but also has a void within him, searching
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: for his identity. And yeah, it's a ride because I
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: was like, yeah, crazy, Yeah, that's like.
• 34:02
  Speaker 7: How did you staying did you find yourself staying in character? After?
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, once you're in it, you're in it.
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: For me, there's no turn completely turning it off because
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: that's just me. That's because he's a hundred you know
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: what I mean. It's not like you know, fifty or
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: you know, even seventy. He's one hundred type of characters.
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: So it's like you to stay in that, to be
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: honest and stay true to it all. I just had
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: to live in it. But I'm surrounded by love and whatnot,
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: and it was fun. Little Marvin created such a safe
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: space for me to dive into the unknown. And I
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: mean we just had a ball creating something brilliant and
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: I'm just grateful that it's resonating with people in all
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: the different ways.
• 34:45
  Speaker 7: Definitely, how long did it take the shoot that season?
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: It was for when I came in, it was four months.
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: Okay, so four months of you doing that's happening into
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: that character.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it makes sense too because I remember I remember
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: him pulling up to set on the shot and I'm like, yeah.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Look, what's good. It is the craziest thing I've ever done.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: It it was I didn't even know what he was.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Doing outside of Broadway.
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: It was the most intense, the hardest thing I've ever challenged,
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: I've ever met.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: But I'm grateful I did it, man.
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's just, you know, when you do something
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: that just really challenges you, your entire fiber and you
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: get to pour into it and you do all of
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: this work and at the end of the day, my
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: experience was everything and you don't know, you know, the
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: rest of it, you don't have no control of. So
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: to receive this love, man, I'm I'm just grateful.
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, because before them, I knew you as a singer.
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: I knew he was Victor, and that was it. And
• 35:46
  Speaker 7: then I was like, how the.
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: Hell, what the hell we could tap into this ship,
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: So congratulation, y'all gotta watch it, bro.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: I do. I'm gonna be honest with you. It was
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: just the pronou and that scave me.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: I hear you.
• 35:59
  Speaker 10: I just made that up off the top of my head.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: And then it's just you.
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: Know, and that Kendrick, it just went it went over
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: my head and they had come back, and then oh,
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: that's what you're.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: Saying, got who you got? Wanted to be? Who wanted
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: to be?
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: Like I think Kendrick there you got like, But I
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: don't think Drake is.
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: Drake is one of the greatst of our generation, greatest
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: write songwriters period. Like I mean, as if I look
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: at it from just an artist a musicians standpoint, dude
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: is brilliant.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: You cannot deny none of that.
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: If we're just talking about this moment right now, Kendrick
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: did that, and you know, I mean, it's just how
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: do you go after a guy like Kendrick. You see
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: that performance on Power. We haven't seen him do anything
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: like that. You can't play with nobody like You're absolutely right,
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: who could you can.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Do all of that?
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: I mean, yes, he come from he come from battle rap.
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: That's that's just that's that's who he is is, you know.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Kung Kenny. Look, Kenny, I always knew that I felt
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: like Kendrick could come out on top of this, even
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: though I wasn't sleeping on Draking nowhere, shape or form.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: But we just didn't know how because we've never seen Kendrick.
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, how do you play with somebody who you don't
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: you don't know that much about You don't see him,
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: They don't they don't really play, and you don't really know.
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: He pop out when he want and drove great bodies
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: of work and then he goes back and.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: It's interest artist, you know.
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: But I'm waiting for the documentary of this, of this
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: situation because there has to be, because there's there's such
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: a someone to know.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Why Kendrick don't like him so much.
• 37:37
  Speaker 11: No, not even.
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: Not even that, not even that you know this this
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: I don't. I don't even get into that part. I
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: just look at the social construct.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Of it all.
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: And and and the they're having two different conversations, right
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: 're two different talking about something at each other, but
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: having two different conversations. And we're realizing two different audiences
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: lit in to music and comment on music and the
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: same and their spectrum is so one narrowed, you.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Know what's so inddressing about that? Kendrick and Drake like
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: like Kendrick gets the same type of critical acclaim, he
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: sells records, he sells out tours and everything he's just
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: approached to music is different but that don't mean that
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Drake's approach to music is wrong, right, Like it's not
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: saying you know, like Drake makes good music, yes, great records.
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: The thing is people have a hard time because with
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: comparison and competition in comparison, somehow has to be competition too,
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: you know, like I can't have one without the other.
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: I can't have one and the other. But you can
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: have Michael and Prince and you can appreciate both what
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: they've done.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: It's just interesting how they how Kendrick has like a
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: I don't want to say a reputation, but he's almost
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: looked at as an underground artist. But that's like he's not.
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: He's like successfully commercial, but he started that way the
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: Section eighty that had that, that had.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: That, But he kind of is under around artists and
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: it's just his records just crossover. Drake makes records to crossover.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Kendrick just does himself and his records just cross over.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: But you know, we love it so much.
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: Princes could considered, in a sense at that time an
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: underground artist, raw different than any black artists that was out,
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: you know what I mean, and that shook the world.
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's gonna be controversial what I say, but
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: it shook the world so much that Michael changed his vibe.
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: Four years later, came out with Bad and he had
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: long hair, buckles and leather and all that. That that
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: Purple Rain impact, that Oscar's influential.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: That was crazy.
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: I can only imagine he had the cool. But I
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: just hate the fact that people can't love both artists.
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: You can know a lot of people, which is crazy.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: I don't, but Kendrick and I love Drake in the back.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I look different than y'all right, and this is just me.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: And Charlamagne was like, we'll prove it if I feed
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: you in for me allegedly, because we don't know if
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: it's true. This we just would drinks. Yet, if I
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: feed your information and you go off that information, that
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: kind of it doesn't it's not true.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: I can't really say if that's true. If it is,
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: it's like, that's genius to me. It's not nonsense. It's nonsense.
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: We know it's nonsense. Stop it, pull it back.
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: You documented, It's all documented on Twitter and all the
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: news and all of this. That and the third you've
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: been doing this for how many years now? It doesn't
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: matter it's a rap battle. It doesn't have to be
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: true kind of does No, it doesn't.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: If I give you information and you know all that
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: information I.
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: Got back in the day, maybe right, but right now
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: it doesn't. Now now it's a different thing. It's it's
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: how can I get you off your rocker?
• 40:54
  Speaker 11: How can I get you off everything about you in
• 40:58
  Speaker 11: the world and people like and you and you can
• 41:01
  Speaker 11: as much as you But if that's ye is it?
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: It's a game.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: It's true.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: They both in trust.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: J Cole won.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: He got out of there.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Listen, J co sleep is good.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: That was like just to be like, you know, bro,
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: that didn't go up go and mess with my spirit.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: And I'm so grateful that that came to me.
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: I had that that that premonition or whatever to say,
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: you know what, I'm backing out. You can do whatever
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: you want, bro, but I can just see this ain't
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: gonna be good for.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Me maybe, And I don't want to go down that road.
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: And I rather sleep good than YE sleep and then
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: wake up wanting to go back to sleep because I
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: don't know if it's another track about me.
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: I don't want to anyone out there imagine that type
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: of sleep man, you ain't sleeping or a lie.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: Kendrick, nowaday nobody cares about the truth from the line,
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: you might just get me with a lie. Now everybody
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: think I'm missing that.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: My wife laying wrong with She asked me, you hit me.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Watch the shot.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Just watch the shot. That's right, the shot.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: This is amazing, right back. We learned a lot, we
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: learned to spin off of the shot. Coming there it is.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Jacob still loves Surrea for s you said, just it.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: It's fine. Season six of the Side is great, and
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: it may not be the final season. There you go.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: The B side is them.
• 42:35
  Speaker 7: You have to watch them. I will watch it with
• 42:37
  Speaker 7: your together, already watch it.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Tap in, tap in, tap in? Why not?
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: She's really been talking about the show for long.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: You should you should?
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: I think you should tap in because when we talk
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: about as a community, when we talk about we want
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: nuanced UH films and and so on, this is nuanced.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: This is different.
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: And I'm not saying it because I'm a part of it.
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: I'm saying it because that's what it is, and we
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: have to support it. We have to see it, and
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: and other artists will come about from this from this happening.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: You know and why not enjoy it definitely.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: Well, we appreciate you guys joining Breakfast Club, y'all flowers. Man,
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: this is this is this is a big deal.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: We you know, we always excited to pull up on you.
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: It's a answer call at first, but thank you so
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: much for having.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: What about what ab our producers just said Season seven
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: has been Greenland. I don't know how true that is.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: I try to google it, but.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: Don't stop playing.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: This team just texted me, shy. Season seven has been greenland.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: We find out. We find out when y'all find out.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: Problem.
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: Congratulations relations Coratu wow dangla.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: We'll see the six returns. Make tempt see the seven
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: has been greenlit.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Congratulation.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, wake that ass up
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: in the morning.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: The Breakfast Club.