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TWR Tuesday | Big CON Contracts pt 1 · The Whitfield Report

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  Now broadcasting from the next-gen conservative studio in
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  Sunny South Florida, bringing you the latest in politics
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  current events and pop culture. This is the Whitfield Report
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  with Sam Whitfield. Hey there folks, welcome to the
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  Tuesday edition of the show. I want to thank you so very much
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  for joining me whenever you're turning into this podcast in the
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  past present future, our, and before we get started with the
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  show, I want to thank Max sand of the cringe, copy house for
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  filling in for me this past Saturday and kind of being a
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  doing a quasi Whitfield's reports show over on his channel
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  on the cringe, copy house and if you did tune into that episode,
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  you obviously know that I did tune in for a, you know, for a
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  brief period of time when I was on vacation in Orlando.
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  For those of you don't know, I took this past weekend off for
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  my birthday weekend. And I celebrated my birthday
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  weekend with my family in Orlando.
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  Well, actually in Cocoa Beach and we wanted to the, we wanted
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  the Kennedy Space Center and had a really fun time there.
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  Just really incredible to see, you know, everything that we
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  have done as a nation. Ian, as far as space exploration
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  goes and I know we have a few people that you know in our
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  audience that may or may not believe that the moon landing
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  was real fake and you know, we can do that on another podcast
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  another time. But regardless, the kind of nice
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  pay center was amazing. Very impressive.
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  You know, Place they've got going over there and the people
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  who run the Kennedy Space Center, it's a private group.
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  I know that. And we seem to really take pride
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  in maintaining that place. And you know, it was a really
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  good. I had a real good time there in
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  Cocoa Beach in and of itself was just really fun, great beaches.
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  So if you're ever in Florida, I would highly recommend going to
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  the Canadian Space Center. It is worth the visit and it is
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  worth. It's worth taking a full weekend
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  and two days to really explore that place and you'll have a
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  good time. But I don't want any.
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  Like I said, I want to thank Max and flowing in for me on
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  Saturday, always fun. You know to your his take on
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  things and he did a great job. And with that being said, what
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  last week, ladies and gentlemen, there was a, you know, there was
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  a breaking news story that happened right?
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  As I was getting ready to kind of go on vacation and it kind of
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  figures that this happens because it always does happen
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  when I'm about to go on vacation, some breaking news
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  story that would have been perfect for me to cover. cover
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  why bomb the channel happened when I was you know getting
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  ready to go out of town and unable to jump on a livestream
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  to You know, give my comments on but you know, as most of you
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  probably know by now, Steven Crowder, I guess has come out
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  and admitted that he has some problems with Ben Shapiro and
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  not in the deli why're, you know, he loves the Blaze and see
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  our TV. at the end of last year, and I guess has been trouble
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  fighting. You know, he's been having
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  trouble finding a home or another Network to partner with
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  which is kind of weird and him and of itself.
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  And I'll explain why here in a bit but evidently he, you know,
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  was in talks with the Della wired to sign, you know, deal to
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  carry his program and they you know they made some questionable
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  demands in his eyes and so he not only declined the offer be
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  then I guess one Dawn to expose not just the You know, contract
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  antics of the daily wire themselves, but kind of the ins
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  and outs of the conservative media business as a whole.
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  And what not? And that's what we're going to
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  talk about a bit tonight. There's a lot that I, you know,
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  I have to say about this. I'm going to try and keep this
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  podcast, at least this episode under an hour, to really try and
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  explain to because there is a lot to cover here but you know,
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  I do have some things to say about this because believe it or
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  not, I too have had offers to take the whitfield's report or
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  in some iterations of the show. The we feel the analysis to
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  bigger. Platforms and, you know, merge
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  with bigger networks, much bigger networks and basically
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  have the potential to become a, you know, a conservative
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  celebrity basically. and, you know, for various reasons that
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  has happened, obviously I stopped a channel that's, you
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  know, under You know, 1000 subscribers, you know, my
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  podcast. It gets a couple, you know,
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  thousand was ins a month, not bad.
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  But you know, not like big time, you know, celebrity numbers
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  either. And the one question I always
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  get especially from the, you know, from from some of the a
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  logs out there's well, Sam you've been doing this for, you
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  know, you've been doing this since you were a teenager.
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  Why aren't you more famous? and, Folks, this may be a bit
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  cliche, but essentially the reason why I'm not as big as
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  say, a Ben Shapiro origin. Or a try crook. or someone like
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  that even though for as long as I've been in the game, I maybe
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  should be Is because I refused. I have refused to play the game
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  of basically big, you know, conservative media.
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  And yes folks, big press or big Media or whatever you want to
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  call. It does exist on both sides,
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  sides of the aisle. I've had to deal with them.
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  I've had friends who have had to deal with them and I will tell
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  you this right off the bat. I can't really speak to, you
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  know, Steven Crowder's situation.
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  I, you know, I have my opinions about Steven Crowder.
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  I think a lot of what he said in that interview with, you know,
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  Tim pool last night made a lot of sense.
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  And all I was gripes with the daily wire are legit.
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  And he is right that there is a, you know, the Third Kind of an
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  upper echelon. There is a group of
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  conservatives are kind of keeping the, you know, the
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  concern of meat is spear so to speak.
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  And you know, I'm not going to go too much into Steven
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  Crowder's. Whole thing, my opinion on
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  crowder is mixed. Because I really when, when
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  Steven Crowder started out doing louder louder with Crowder, I
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  didn't like his content. I thought, you know, he might
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  not have been better been my brand of Connie.
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  He made some good points. He Can be entertaining and what
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  not? but basically, as show grew
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  because I started listening to loud with Crowder and 2014 and
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  what some people might not know is When louder with Crowder
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  first started it was a radio show, turn into a podcast that
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  he did, you know I'll like a local radio station in Detroit I
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  believe. You know, and then like around
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  late 2014 or early 2015? That was when YouTube started,
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  the roller Heads live stream and that was when loud with crowd
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  wanted to video and it be, you know, became a whole thing.
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  Everyone started doing video podcasting then.
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  And that was really when I, you know, when I made the move from
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  Spreaker to you know YouTube and started you know that was when I
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  reprinted the with something else has as the field report in
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  2015 and you know here we are all these years later right?
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  So I have a, like I said, I've had mixed emotions on.
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  Steven Crowder, you know, I guess my biggest gripe with
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  Steven Crowder is Basically, once he grew and into the
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  Juggernaut podcast, he was you know and took the deal with the
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  blaze. You know prior to him taking
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  that deal and whatnot. I was actually personal.
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  I was actually personal friends with Stephen on Facebook. and,
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  At one point, I was I was in a private Facebook group. for loud
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  with crown which was basically tasked with you know, promoting
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  louder with Crowder back when it was still an you know, back when
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  I was still completely independent Shout And so, you
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  know, we would basically, you know, be asked, you know, tweet
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  out the show, you know, share with your friends basically
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  word-of-mouth. And so, We did that for a while.
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  And then you know, Stephen wanted to The Blaze and we were
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  all have if warm and I remember at one point you know II had
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  asked Steven Crowder if he would do my podcast.
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  And initially before the, before, the deal with the blaze
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  was made, he said, yes. And you know, we were going to
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  work, work out a deal. you know, with No him going on on the show
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  and all that. But then, basically, once the,
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  you know, whole CRT be wowed with crowded deal became
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  apparent, that was one section of an episode that he did, where
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  he said, hey, we've been getting a lot of requests to do, you
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  know, podcast and he basically said we can't afford to, you
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  know, we can go on every single small time, you know, podcast
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  out there, you know, every Small Time YouTube channel out there,
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  we can do it and it was just the way he said at that was kind of
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  You know, it kind of came off as I'm holier than thou and I don't
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  have time for you kind of snarky attitude that it just kind of
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  rub me the wrong way and I'll be honest that's a big part of the
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  reason why I'm not in such a big fan of you know crowd oohs as
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  much anymore. I mean yeah it may seem kind of
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  a bit Petty but Like I said, this was someone who's podcast.
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  I had kind of, you know, help to promote.
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  When it was still completely independent from the ground up.
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  You know, obviously I, I did realize that once he was, you
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  know, the ones who made the big time, it was going to be harder
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  to keep in touch with him and whatnot and to get his
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  attention. But for me to, you know, ask him
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  to come onto the show and buy him onto the show.
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  And then friend to make that, you know, Common the way he did
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  that hey we don't have time for every single small podcaster
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  that invites us on our show that is real rub me the wrong way,
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  you know? It's a minor thing but You know,
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  I think it just goes to show that Fame and whatnot can really
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  affect people, right? And so That's kind, my
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  experience was with Steven Crowder.
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  I mean, as far as the whole rumors that he's gay or You
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  know, well there was a rumor that he didn't want to have kids
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  for a while and then obviously he had kids.
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  So clearly that myth, you know God debunked but like all that
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  stuff that was put out there mostly by Owen Benjamin, I'm I
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  would like to point out was proven, not to be true that I'm
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  not going to get into. Because, you know, as far as
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  like, his personal life goes You know, who knows?
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  We all have our shoes. You know, I hope he's doing well
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  as far as health goes but you know like as far as my
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  interactions to go with him. They've been very lukewarm at
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  best. Let me just put it that way.
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  but, you know, when he came out and said he's leaving the Blaze
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  and see our TV and he made, you know, that he's been in talks
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  with all these organizations to pick up his show and they've all
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  come back with like really bad contract deals.
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  I, you know, I empathize with him in a sense.
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  And this is really the meat and potatoes of the program.
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  I want to get to tonight folks. A lot of why I'm going to be
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  saying is based off of my own experience.
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  And all of this was based off of word-of-mouth conversations.
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  I do not have receipts for the these and I'll have my mom's
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  going to talk about is do is, you know, is speculation. and,
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  you know, info that I've heard from other people kind regarding
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  how big con works And whatnot. But essentially folks, there
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  have been a few times when I have been doing the show. when
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  I've been doing the Winfield's before and I have had much
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  bigger groups of basically, like, you know, conservative
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  media groups offering to pick up this show, and In their words,
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  not mine. Make me, you know, the next big
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  conservative voice. Quote-unquote now.
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  Let me just kind of break this down, okay?
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  One of the things that I firmly believe.
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  As a podcaster. is that if you are, if you independently star
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  pod yast, right? You put all your energy into it,
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  you put the work in to create content guests, you know,
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  schedule shows Etc. That is your content.
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  You've created it. You've done the vast majority of
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  production work on it, that is your thing, and you own that,
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  right? That was one of the appeals of
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  podcasting in the beginning was that, you know, basically no
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  matter what genre your end to, no matter how many listeners and
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  our viewers you have on said, podcast, if you're producing
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  independently, The show is yours.
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  Right. Well, I had some pretty big
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  names in conservative media. From the time I was about 18,
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  all the way up until about 2017. I've had offers Ladies and
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  gentlemen, for bigger podcast, Networks. so basically, by out
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  The Whitfield report in the hire me on. as a, you know, as a
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  shell host on the networks, and Sundays are, you know, big names
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  that you would recognize But in almost every circumstance.
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  People ones by the brand of the Whitfield report.
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  And basically have complete ownership of this show.
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  Of the Whitfield report. Now.
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  Ladies and gentlemen, I'm this maybe.
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  An area where I come off as arrogant.
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  Or prideful or whatever you want to call it.
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  But I start podcasting when I was 13, Years old.
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  Yes, the show has had rebrands over the years.
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  And yes, I have had different topics and guess and what not?
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  But for a lack of, you know, but at the end of the day for lack
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  of a better term, I own this program and all its iterations.
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  Pretty much out, right? It's mine.
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  And, you know, I'm proud of it, especially considering that I
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  started this show. So young.
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  And yet you have eyelid other groups, basically prepared, you
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  know, offered to buy out from me.
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  To not only hire me to, you know, create content for their
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  site to also buy. The rights to this show.
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  Oh, Well, what's the problem with that?
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  Folks? The problem is quite frankly is
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  if I sell it, you know, if I were to merge with a network,
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  right? and, You know, become an
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  employee of theirs and basically give them the branding of the
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  field field report. Theoretically It's no longer my
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  program. Theoretically they could, you
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  know, tell me what I needed to do.
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  As far as content goes, they could basically dictate the
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  terms of the show and God forbid, they could, you know,
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  terminate me or dismiss me somehow and I would be Not only
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  would I be out of a job or I was show but they would own rights
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  to a show that I had. taken years to build before I knew
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  these consider content creators And I knew that going in.
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  So when a couple of these, you know, bigger conservative
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  podcast, /, Radio Networks, you know, made the offer to pay me
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  all of money but to have absolute control over the show.
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  I basically you know said no I will remain independent.
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  Now there have been a few instances where I have merged
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  with bigger podcast networks and have a great success.
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  They're now defunct, but as some of you may remember back when I
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  was a senior in high school Junior and senior of high
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  school. So about 2012, 2013, I was part
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  of a podcast Network called Junior Factor nation and you
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  know, was made up of a couple other young conservative
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  podcasters like myself. And the guy who ran that Network
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  Jason Vela he's been on the show before a few times you know,
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  Jason and I we had our ups and downs.
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  You know, in the past. But overall, he's a terrific guy
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  and one of the things I always like to him was when I joined
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  that Network, he basically said, hey man, you know, just bring
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  your own content and do your own thing.
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  And the only thing he really asked me was I, you know, was I
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  try not to swear too much or say too many vulgar things on the
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  podcast, but other than that he basically gave me free rein and
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  complete and total. Alon Tommy to do.
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  You know, this show the way I wanted and that was terrific.
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  And his show was great. My show was great.
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  Some of the best episodes I've ever I've ever done are still
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  when I was with Junior, fact, Nation. and, you know, I think I
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  did that like even when I left you two Factor Nation, he
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  basically offered To let me, you know, download the episodes.
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  That I had recorded and broadcast, while I was on Junior
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  vaccination, right? Very generous.
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  He could have said I own the Woodfield analysis.
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  Now completely, sorry, you're on your own, but he didn't do that.
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  He basically allowed me to keep all my old show, you know
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  episodes. and I'll upload any of the old ones, but Who knows?
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  Maybe I will, you know, someday but it, regardless, I'm not
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  saying every, you know, conservative contractors bad but
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  there were other Contracts out there.
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  And this does happen a lot where basically you will get signed on
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  to host a show. but, you have no creative say in what you do on
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  that, show The Producers, pick the guests for you and they
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  basically tell you what ads you're going to, you know, read
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  and you know what topics you cannot and cannot cover and they
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  basically set parameters for you.
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  And some of these bigger podcast Network, and, I just don't
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  believe in that at all, folks. I mean, I I, I do believe that
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  contracts, you know, Should be honored to a certain extent if a
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  you know for an organization is offering.
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  You respond their podcast Network, and you want to create
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  content for them. I can understand.
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  They might, you know, say something like well, you know,
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  you can't say The n-word or whatnot or we want to keep this,
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  you know, family friendly or what have you but as far as
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  creative, you know, cons and goes, I think that for the most
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  part, how should have complete autonomy over there?
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  You know, Bella did you create content?
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  Obviously? This is not the case.
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  And, you know, big in big conservative media and this is a
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  big problem. you know, I turned and you know, I'm an example, I
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  turned down money because of that.
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  You know, back in 2015. There were a couple of, you
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  know, podcast networks out there that were very successful at the
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  time. That wanted to bring me on as
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  kind of their young, you know, next Generation, you know, of
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  conservative Talent, right? But around 2015, that was, when
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  Donald Trump was, you know, becoming a big figure in the
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  conservative movement and you know, that we're a lot of
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  conservative out there, that ended up going, never Trump and
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  not only that folks, but they also had the mindset of, well,
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  if you're never trunk, well, if you vote, you know, pro-trump,
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  or you support Trump, or you actively want to have You know
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  promote romp messaging or even it or if you're even open to the
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  idea of voting for Trump, we can have you on our Network.
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  Right. So there was a lot of
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  gatekeeping early on against, you know, Trump supporters from
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  some of the establishment conservative, you know, branding
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  and conservative podcast right by the same token.
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  There were other groups out there who wanted you to be on
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  the Trump train 24/7. And if you said anything
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  critical about Trump, well then, you were off of, you know, the
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  network. And between 2015 and really
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  20/20 this kind of went on for a long period of time. and so
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  really on 2017, I was just like, you know, I'm gonna go
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  completely independent, I don't like, you know, to be able to
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  monetize and make more money on the podcast, but having the
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  rights to my own content is more, you know, valuable than
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  having a large bank account. Is, and I still believe that.
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  Ladies and gentlemen, I still believe that content ownership
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  is a key part of what makes podcasting a unique and special
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  medium. I'm not opposed anyone signing
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  contracts, but I think a lot of people, especially in, you know,
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  big concern of media, they signed contracts Without Really
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  realizing what the terms are. Per se, right?
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  And it's a big and it's a big problem and I think that's what
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  Steven Crowder is dealing with some what and there are other
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  conservatives out there dealing with the same thing, and I have
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  had to deal with some of that myself now.
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  There's a lot more. I wanted that.
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  I do want to cover on this topic but for time, reasons and
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  whatnot. And also due to Due to some of
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  the more sensitive parts of this topic, I think I'm going to end
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  the show here for today and I will be I will be back on
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  Thursday for part two of this, you know discussion.
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  So this is kind of a primer But anyway, from all of us here at
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  NGC Studios, have a good day or good evening.
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  Whenever listening to this program, God bless God.
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  Save this great nation and God Freedom Legacy in that order.
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  Thanks for listening to the Whitfield report on.
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  patreon.com Whitfield report. Until next time, God bless God.
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  Save this great nation and God Freedom Legacy in.
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  That order. That order.