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- 0:07Speaker 1: The Large Nerdron Collider podcast is a production of I
- 0:10Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey everybody, welcome to The Large Nerdron Collider,
- 0:24Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
- 0:26Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
- 0:29Speaker 1: about them. I'm Ariel casting, and with me as always
- 0:33Speaker 1: is Jonathan one up strick. Yeah. Hey, hang on, Ariel,
- 0:37Speaker 1: I'm playing a playing a particularly tough level right and
- 0:40Speaker 1: I'm dead. Hi. How you doing? Hi? Well, I'm I'm
- 0:44Speaker 1: envious that you're playing video games when we're recording and
- 0:47Speaker 1: I'm not. But I mean, you know I'm not playing it. Well,
- 0:50Speaker 1: so there's that. But I do have a question for you,
- 0:59Speaker 1: So Ariel, this question doesn't have to do with video games. Actually,
- 1:04Speaker 1: what is a geeky movie that you can practically quote
- 1:07Speaker 1: all the way through of a Court Chester with Danny Kay?
- 1:13Speaker 1: Oh wow? A classic Yeah, And like I say, it's
- 1:17Speaker 1: geeky because it's classic cinema and like you gotta be
- 1:21Speaker 1: a key geek to be my age and know it.
- 1:24Speaker 1: So um, but it's for anybody who doesn't know. It's
- 1:27Speaker 1: a musical kind of Robin Hoodie story that starts Danny
- 1:31Speaker 1: Kay and the mom from Mary Poppins and a Young
- 1:34Speaker 1: Angela Lansbury and it's funny and it's just delightful. It is.
- 1:39Speaker 1: It is a delightful film. What about you, John, I mean,
- 1:43Speaker 1: name one area I can quote them all? No, I think, um,
- 1:46Speaker 1: I think for me, I was gonna say big trouble
- 1:49Speaker 1: in Little China. That's that's when I can quote pretty
- 1:52Speaker 1: much all the way through. But there are a couple
- 1:54Speaker 1: of others that even go beyond that, like Princess Bride
- 1:59Speaker 1: easily quote all the way. See, I felt like that
- 2:01Speaker 1: was hanging. Yeah, yeah, that's why. So the one I
- 2:04Speaker 1: want to go with though, is Clue. Okay, I'm not shouting,
- 2:08Speaker 1: all right, I am, I'm shouting. I'm shouting. I'm yes,
- 2:13Speaker 1: one of the best films ever. It's why we whenever
- 2:16Speaker 1: we talk about Knives Out, which we almost did for
- 2:19Speaker 1: this episode, I feel like I feel like we need
- 2:21Speaker 1: to bring up Clue as well. Alright, Well, and I'm
- 2:24Speaker 1: excited for when we get a new Clue movie for
- 2:27Speaker 1: you too. Yeah. I mean it's never going to be
- 2:31Speaker 1: the same, right, like the performances in the original Clue,
- 2:36Speaker 1: we're something truly special. I mean it could have just
- 2:38Speaker 1: been a terrible movie, and some people actually at the
- 2:40Speaker 1: time I thought it was, but I think of it
- 2:43Speaker 1: as just a masterpiece of farcical comedy, right it is.
- 2:49Speaker 1: It is unapologetically silly, and I love that something else
- 2:55Speaker 1: that is unapologetically silly, but perhaps wasn't meant to be
- 2:59Speaker 1: considered that is the he Man's Yeah. Well, I mean,
- 3:04Speaker 1: I don't think he Man was originally considered to be
- 3:07Speaker 1: anything other than a vehicle to sell toys, you are correct,
- 3:12Speaker 1: discussed in the past. Uh, and yet it has found
- 3:17Speaker 1: a way into so many of our hearts to love,
- 3:21Speaker 1: including Kevin Smith's heart. Yeah, Kevin Smith, who who of
- 3:26Speaker 1: course is behind the reboot or actually the continuation of
- 3:31Speaker 1: the original he Man. Yeah. So now it's Masters of
- 3:34Speaker 1: the Universe revelation and a trailer hit. So it showed
- 3:38Speaker 1: a bit of the the animation style and sort of
- 3:42Speaker 1: the tone of the new Masters of the Universe cartoon,
- 3:46Speaker 1: and a lot of it looks really familiar. It's it's
- 3:49Speaker 1: it's kind of like the old cartoon, but more so. Yeah. Yeah,
- 3:54Speaker 1: it's one of those things where it's like they took
- 3:56Speaker 1: everything I loved and they just made it all better.
- 3:59Speaker 1: Must when you talk about like well, they actually got
- 4:03Speaker 1: rid of some muscles because when he Man his Prince Adam,
- 4:06Speaker 1: he looks a little bit scrawny. He does not like
- 4:08Speaker 1: scrawny is the wrong word. But he's not just like
- 4:11Speaker 1: a bodybuilder with a bowl cut. Um that's true. Yeah,
- 4:15Speaker 1: Adam and the original Adam versus he Man. There it
- 4:18Speaker 1: was like it was even more of a blatant obvious
- 4:22Speaker 1: secret identity than Clark Kent for a superman, right, Like
- 4:25Speaker 1: it was like the only thing that's different is that
- 4:28Speaker 1: he Man is wearing a furry loincloth and this weird
- 4:32Speaker 1: like harness thing mm hm, which you know, they've changed
- 4:37Speaker 1: up his costume a bit, They've changed his his process
- 4:41Speaker 1: of turning into human a bit. Uh. One of the
- 4:45Speaker 1: articles that we read on Gizmoto compared it to a
- 4:47Speaker 1: sailor moon transformation, which I thought was pretty funny. Um, yeah,
- 4:52Speaker 1: that's fabulous. I like it. But when you think about
- 4:55Speaker 1: things that hold up, and a lot of them don't,
- 4:57Speaker 1: like from your childhood that you love, and you watch
- 4:59Speaker 1: it again, you're well, this does and hold up. This
- 5:01Speaker 1: is what I imagine Heman being. This is what I
- 5:03Speaker 1: remember human being when I was a kid, as opposed
- 5:06Speaker 1: to if you went back and watched it, you would
- 5:08Speaker 1: be like, oh, but this looks like, oh no, this
- 5:11Speaker 1: is like all the cool stuff that my imagination was
- 5:14Speaker 1: filling in the gaps of and except it's this is
- 5:16Speaker 1: what the cartoon is now, but with better animation and
- 5:21Speaker 1: you know, some some real violence. Yeah, not not not
- 5:25Speaker 1: like a he Man picks up a vehicle and tosses
- 5:28Speaker 1: it somewhere and no one gets hurt, and yeah. The
- 5:31Speaker 1: article also points out that in the original cartoons there's
- 5:35Speaker 1: never any actual like combat, Like there's never a moment
- 5:39Speaker 1: where Heman is actively fighting someone. Like everyone's got swords
- 5:42Speaker 1: and guns and stuff, but no one seems to ever
- 5:44Speaker 1: actually use them against any other being. So yeah, yeah,
- 5:50Speaker 1: I mean, and it doesn't the new one doesn't look
- 5:52Speaker 1: you know, if you watch the trailer, which will have
- 5:54Speaker 1: linkedinner show notes at large new drunk letter dot com,
- 5:57Speaker 1: you can see the violence doesn't look over the top.
- 5:59Speaker 1: It's not like in instable levels of violence, but right
- 6:03Speaker 1: a little more actionally. And I will say, like, there
- 6:05Speaker 1: are multiple times in this trailer I was like, oh, yeah,
- 6:08Speaker 1: he Man reboot cool, you know that. I was just going,
- 6:11Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Yes, watching the trailer. The first one
- 6:15Speaker 1: was when Cringer, well, when they showed battle Cat, not Cringer,
- 6:19Speaker 1: but still it just it's everything I wanted to be.
- 6:24Speaker 1: And I will admit they used holding Out for a
- 6:26Speaker 1: Hero as their soundtrack for the trailer and that I
- 6:30Speaker 1: totally got duped by that. Yeah, that will not be
- 6:33Speaker 1: the only time holding Out for a Hero makes an
- 6:36Speaker 1: appearance in this episode, as it turns out. And I
- 6:39Speaker 1: do love that song. It's just funny that it popped
- 6:41Speaker 1: up twice in one week of geek news, right, like
- 6:45Speaker 1: two unrelated things, and you're you're just like, did the
- 6:48Speaker 1: rights for the song come up or something? Well, everybody
- 6:52Speaker 1: likes using those more classics a wrong word, but the
- 6:56Speaker 1: more recognizable familiar songs of your yesterday's well, especially if
- 7:01Speaker 1: you're if you're tapping into something that's either itself kind
- 7:07Speaker 1: of an old property that's being brought back, or, as
- 7:11Speaker 1: is the case of the other thing that we'll talk
- 7:12Speaker 1: about in a minute, it's a property that one of
- 7:16Speaker 1: the characters has an association with a past era. Though
- 7:20Speaker 1: Holding Up for a Hero is a little too late
- 7:23Speaker 1: for that other character. I'm foreshadowing a lot. We'll get
- 7:26Speaker 1: there though, Yeah, yeah. But speaking of things from our past,
- 7:30Speaker 1: the next thing we're going to talk about is the
- 7:32Speaker 1: Fear Street movies written by R. L. Stein. If you
- 7:36Speaker 1: are not familiar, he was one of the authors that
- 7:39Speaker 1: was synonymous with horror for children. Yeah, he was writing
- 7:43Speaker 1: the goose Bumps series. Yeah, yeah, which I've actually quite enjoyed.
- 7:49Speaker 1: I'm guessing you might have been a little bit too
- 7:50Speaker 1: old for them, Yeah, I I skipped over goose Bumps.
- 7:53Speaker 1: I also skipped over what Are You Afraid of the Dark?
- 7:56Speaker 1: Which my dad wrote a few books in that series,
- 8:00Speaker 1: but those came out after I had already kind of
- 8:02Speaker 1: passed that that age, and I was already reading mostly
- 8:06Speaker 1: like Stephen King stuff. M hm, Well, the Fear Street
- 8:11Speaker 1: series is uh, you know, as much as I'm afraid
- 8:14Speaker 1: of horror, I could read it, and I could watch
- 8:15Speaker 1: Are You Fraid of the Dark and Goosebumps most of
- 8:18Speaker 1: the time with no problem. Um, but the Fear Street
- 8:21Speaker 1: stories were always a little bit more for older children.
- 8:25Speaker 1: They I guess the books would have been rated PG,
- 8:28Speaker 1: so just a little bit scarier than maybe your normal R. L. Stein. Fair.
- 8:32Speaker 1: But the new movies that Netflix is coming out with
- 8:36Speaker 1: our rated R Yeah, that's interesting that it's a I mean,
- 8:41Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because they're trying to target
- 8:44Speaker 1: the people who read the Fear Street books as they
- 8:47Speaker 1: were growing up who are now older, or if it's
- 8:50Speaker 1: just well, we want to be able to tell these stories,
- 8:53Speaker 1: but something that doesn't come across that necessarily that intense
- 8:57Speaker 1: are graphic in a book by definition going to be
- 9:01Speaker 1: a little more so in cinema. I don't know. But
- 9:05Speaker 1: the three films are set during three different time periods,
- 9:11Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight and sixteen sixty six, and apparently that's
- 9:15Speaker 1: the order that they will be released in, like a
- 9:17Speaker 1: movie one is nineteen ninety four, Movie two is ninety eight,
- 9:22Speaker 1: Movie three is sixteen sixty six, So you're actually going
- 9:24Speaker 1: back with each successive film, which is interesting to me. Yeah,
- 9:29Speaker 1: it also feels like there are certain elements that definitely
- 9:33Speaker 1: are going to sound familiar to people who read Stephen
- 9:36Speaker 1: King or those of you out there who have read
- 9:38Speaker 1: my dad's book. Shadows show the idea of some sort
- 9:41Speaker 1: of some sort of evil presence that every x amount
- 9:45Speaker 1: of time resurfaces and starts to cause problems again, and
- 9:50Speaker 1: then kind of goes into a dormant state for however
- 9:54Speaker 1: long that seems to be at play here. There are
- 9:57Speaker 1: a lot of vibes I was getting from this that
- 9:59Speaker 1: we're a kind of akin to it or stranger things.
- 10:02Speaker 1: I was getting that for the not so much in
- 10:06Speaker 1: the sixteen though, that was that was pretty intense. It's
- 10:12Speaker 1: interesting to me because, like I would say that they're
- 10:14Speaker 1: trying to get teenagers. I think that's what's who Scream
- 10:18Speaker 1: was trying to get. I want to watch and I
- 10:21Speaker 1: don't know if Scream was rated PG thirteen or are
- 10:25Speaker 1: The original Scream was rated R okay, and the newer
- 10:28Speaker 1: one as well. Um. I didn't watch Scream for the
- 10:31Speaker 1: first time until this past year. UM because it's too scary.
- 10:36Speaker 1: The opening ten minutes is too scary for me. Um.
- 10:41Speaker 1: But uh, you know, I would say that, you know,
- 10:44Speaker 1: they're just trying to reach out to the teenagers of today.
- 10:47Speaker 1: But again it's rated R. You know. I feel like
- 10:51Speaker 1: even kids nowaday if they're nowadays, are used to a
- 10:53Speaker 1: little a little bit more UM harsh media are still
- 10:59Speaker 1: caps caps that entry age. Well, I mean, I might
- 11:05Speaker 1: actually watch this. I don't have any attachment to the books,
- 11:11Speaker 1: but the the trailers looked interesting to me. I still don't.
- 11:16Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think this was a movie
- 11:18Speaker 1: that was made for me or anything like that. But
- 11:20Speaker 1: I feel like it looks like the style looks interesting,
- 11:24Speaker 1: and I'm a little intrigued by the story. So I'll
- 11:27Speaker 1: probably check it out, all right, I might. I might
- 11:30Speaker 1: have you tell me about it, watch it with me,
- 11:34Speaker 1: because it looks kind of scary for me. Well, let
- 11:36Speaker 1: me ask you this. Would you watch a movie about
- 11:38Speaker 1: a video game character who gradually realizes that they are
- 11:42Speaker 1: in fact a video game character? I mean, that's also
- 11:46Speaker 1: pretty scary, Jonathan, Now I'm kidding. Of course I would.
- 11:49Speaker 1: Of course I would. So we're referencing Free Guy, and uh,
- 11:53Speaker 1: Free Guy is a film starring Ryan Reynolds and uh yeah,
- 11:59Speaker 1: it's a sort of an action comedy science fiction film. Yeah,
- 12:04Speaker 1: and it's one that we expected to get last year
- 12:07Speaker 1: and got pushed off by the pandemic. And they finally
- 12:10Speaker 1: released the new date, which is auguste uh, and I'm
- 12:14Speaker 1: super excited about it. They also came out with a
- 12:16Speaker 1: new trailer and uh, as Jonathan was mentioning right before
- 12:20Speaker 1: we got on, and we're figuring out show order, the
- 12:22Speaker 1: new trailer is very different from the original. Yeah, the
- 12:27Speaker 1: original really focused on Ryan Reynolds character and him gradually
- 12:32Speaker 1: kind of coming to the realization that he is in
- 12:35Speaker 1: a video game. UM. But the new trailer seems like
- 12:41Speaker 1: he doesn't have that realization at all until a player
- 12:47Speaker 1: who is represented within the game as a as another
- 12:50Speaker 1: character forces him. Essentially, there's a very they live kind
- 12:55Speaker 1: of moment where she puts classes on him that gives
- 12:57Speaker 1: him the view the game view of the world. UM.
- 13:00Speaker 1: But in the original trailer, he puts those on himself, right.
- 13:03Speaker 1: He they fall off of a player character that he
- 13:07Speaker 1: kills the player character uh in defense of the bank
- 13:11Speaker 1: that he works at, where he just decides randomly that
- 13:14Speaker 1: he he wants to change things up and instead of
- 13:17Speaker 1: just allowing the bank to get robbed the way it
- 13:19Speaker 1: typically is UM. And then as a result, these glasses
- 13:22Speaker 1: fall off that player character and he put puts them on.
- 13:25Speaker 1: That's where he sees the video game overlay and realizes
- 13:29Speaker 1: that he's in a game. UM. And the new trailer
- 13:32Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. It's the or at least it doesn't
- 13:34Speaker 1: appear to happen. Instead, it's this this woman character who
- 13:39Speaker 1: makes him put on the glasses and thus have the realization.
- 13:42Speaker 1: So an interesting change. Um, the tone seems a little
- 13:47Speaker 1: different between the two trailers, but I also don't know
- 13:52Speaker 1: if it hits me just right. There's there's a little
- 13:55Speaker 1: bit too much going on in the frames for me,
- 13:59Speaker 1: like like it's it's almost like hill. You think about
- 14:02Speaker 1: a big open world game like Grand Theft Auto Online,
- 14:06Speaker 1: except just imagine that every single block of the city
- 14:10Speaker 1: and Grand Theft Auto Online is exploding on fire being
- 14:13Speaker 1: attacked by alien lizards, like all the same time, all
- 14:17Speaker 1: the time, and and that's just that's maybe turning the
- 14:22Speaker 1: dial up a little too far from me. You know,
- 14:25Speaker 1: I've played video games like that, and it is kind
- 14:27Speaker 1: of hard to tell what's going on, you know, Giant Sandboxy,
- 14:30Speaker 1: you're playing a version of Batman Games or a version
- 14:34Speaker 1: of Joker Games. I can't remember the name of the game,
- 14:36Speaker 1: but yeah, it can get pretty confusing. I'm I am
- 14:39Speaker 1: guessing as I think through the changes that possibly the
- 14:42Speaker 1: reason that the character, uh the character is known as
- 14:46Speaker 1: Molotov Girl gives Free Guy his glasses as opposed to
- 14:49Speaker 1: him finding him is that there's that instant connection with
- 14:51Speaker 1: the real world. Possibly might have been an editing I'm
- 14:55Speaker 1: completely riffing on this, but possibly an editing change to
- 14:58Speaker 1: get the movie down to time. Yeah, and we don't
- 15:01Speaker 1: know like how much you know, reshoots might have been
- 15:04Speaker 1: involved or anything like that. I am curious I this one.
- 15:08Speaker 1: I might just wait to watch at home. I feel
- 15:10Speaker 1: like it's the kind of movie that you're supposed to
- 15:12Speaker 1: go see in the theater because it's big action sequences.
- 15:16Speaker 1: But with the amount of stuff going on, I'm reaching
- 15:18Speaker 1: the age where if it's that much stuff going on
- 15:20Speaker 1: with the screen at once, I'm just gonna be like
- 15:22Speaker 1: checked out. I just I'm definitely gonna go see it.
- 15:26Speaker 1: I feel like I feel it's it's uplifting, and especially
- 15:30Speaker 1: watching Ryan Reynolds be another superhero who isn't Deadpool. Uh,
- 15:36Speaker 1: I'm excited to see the contrast there. Well, now we're
- 15:39Speaker 1: getting back to our I Need a Hero h link,
- 15:43Speaker 1: because the next thing we want to talk about is
- 15:46Speaker 1: a game coming out of Square Knicks. It's their Guardians
- 15:49Speaker 1: of the Galaxy game, and there's a trailer for it
- 15:52Speaker 1: that also features the song I Need a Hero, just
- 15:57Speaker 1: as we were talking about earlier. So what do you
- 16:00Speaker 1: think of this trailer? Well, I felt like the music
- 16:03Speaker 1: just didn't quite hit me so oddly enough for he
- 16:08Speaker 1: Man it works, But regards of the Galaxy, it's right out. Well.
- 16:11Speaker 1: It was interesting because this is is getting into the weeds.
- 16:14Speaker 1: But they used actually some of the verse as opposed
- 16:16Speaker 1: to some of just jumping into the chorus for this trailer,
- 16:19Speaker 1: which I thought was a great choice. But in rewatching
- 16:23Speaker 1: the trailers back to back to be able to talk
- 16:26Speaker 1: about them today, yeah, just the second time round didn't go,
- 16:29Speaker 1: which which is sad. This game looks like a lot
- 16:32Speaker 1: of fun. I really like IDAs Montreal's art style in
- 16:36Speaker 1: this game. It's you know, it's not based off of
- 16:38Speaker 1: the characters from the movies. Uh like the image wise,
- 16:43Speaker 1: probably because they didn't have rights to those actors images
- 16:47Speaker 1: for all times as we often seen Marvel in DC
- 16:51Speaker 1: video games. Um, but I really like their character design.
- 16:54Speaker 1: It looks like, uh a beautiful game. It looks like
- 16:58Speaker 1: a fun story, gameplay, and it's got a lot of
- 17:01Speaker 1: snark in it. So everything i'd want out of Guardians
- 17:03Speaker 1: of the Galaxy honestly, like a snarky mass effect kind
- 17:07Speaker 1: of Yeah, it looks it looks, it looks fun. I
- 17:10Speaker 1: would check this one out. This one. Uh, the sense
- 17:12Speaker 1: of humor definitely seems to be in keeping. They've got
- 17:15Speaker 1: some cute little um Easter eggs in the trailer that
- 17:20Speaker 1: hint at some other usually you know, fairly minor Marvel
- 17:24Speaker 1: characters that make an appearance, So that's something to keep
- 17:29Speaker 1: an eye out for. I think, I think this looks
- 17:31Speaker 1: like it's one that could be a lot of fun
- 17:33Speaker 1: to play, So I'm looking forward to it. Um And
- 17:37Speaker 1: it's accessible because it's going to be a platform generate,
- 17:42Speaker 1: cross generational on platforms, so you can play it on
- 17:44Speaker 1: the Xbox One or x Series or PlayStation four or
- 17:47Speaker 1: PlayStation five. So that's that's that's that's good too. Yeah,
- 17:51Speaker 1: I I mean, there are a lot of people who
- 17:53Speaker 1: are arguing that we need to have the current generation
- 17:57Speaker 1: consoles get more Dedicade did games just for them, but
- 18:02Speaker 1: at the same time they are still hard to find.
- 18:07Speaker 1: So maybe let those of us who don't have the
- 18:11Speaker 1: new consoles a chance to play some games too. Maybe
- 18:14Speaker 1: games like a big shoot him up game that's set
- 18:19Speaker 1: in a fantasy like D and D style setting within irreverence.
- 18:24Speaker 1: It's a humor you mean, like the Tiny Tina Borderland
- 18:28Speaker 1: spinoff Wonderlands oh god, dining Tina. No, I mean she
- 18:37Speaker 1: makes a good DM Jonathan. That's true. They had the
- 18:41Speaker 1: DLC assault on Dragon Keep from several years ago, and
- 18:45Speaker 1: I actually really enjoyed that that DLC. I thought it
- 18:49Speaker 1: was really fun and it was a it was a
- 18:53Speaker 1: fresh take on border Lands, which does get a little
- 18:56Speaker 1: sammy as you play it. In fact that I heard
- 18:59Speaker 1: a lot of people complain about that with Borderlands three,
- 19:01Speaker 1: and I experienced it too, Aeriel. I think I've even
- 19:04Speaker 1: mentioned on this show that I started playing Borderlines three
- 19:06Speaker 1: recently thinking oh, it's gonna take me a while to
- 19:09Speaker 1: catch up to where I left off because I got
- 19:12Speaker 1: the game when it first came out. Uh No, it
- 19:15Speaker 1: turns out I had not played beyond maybe half an
- 19:17Speaker 1: hour of that game. So yeah, yeah, because it was
- 19:21Speaker 1: just so say me that just put it down and
- 19:23Speaker 1: just never bothered like other stuff came up. Right. Um,
- 19:26Speaker 1: so tiny Tina is a nice change. Yeah. I know
- 19:31Speaker 1: that you've you've found her a bit problematic in the past.
- 19:35Speaker 1: She can't be a little bit annoying. Um, but yeah,
- 19:40Speaker 1: this looks fun, I will admit, like the biggest draw
- 19:44Speaker 1: for me. Honestly though, as a diamond encrusted pony. Yeah,
- 19:49Speaker 1: we can't say the pony's name. We could, but I
- 19:54Speaker 1: don't want to admit it. But it was. It was
- 19:59Speaker 1: a p that was named by Handsome Jack. As I recall,
- 20:02Speaker 1: Handsome Jack is the one that gave the pony that name. Yes,
- 20:07Speaker 1: But the other thing about this is the voice actors
- 20:10Speaker 1: in this video game are like insane, Will Arnett, wanted
- 20:14Speaker 1: psychs Andy Samberg just to name a few, like these
- 20:18Speaker 1: are all people who I think are masters of comedy.
- 20:21Speaker 1: So I think that this game will be really funny
- 20:24Speaker 1: and a lot of fun and hopefully not to say
- 20:27Speaker 1: the same. No, I I would probably try this one
- 20:32Speaker 1: out too, because I do like Borderland's gameplay for the
- 20:35Speaker 1: most part. Um, I don't like when the game series
- 20:39Speaker 1: tries to push you into multiplayer like I like being
- 20:44Speaker 1: able to do a single player experience because unless I
- 20:46Speaker 1: can get a friend like Ariel to coordinate her scheduled mind,
- 20:51Speaker 1: I don't like playing with like people I don't know.
- 20:53Speaker 1: I just want to play with people I do know.
- 20:55Speaker 1: So um but yeah, no, I'm curious about it. And
- 21:01Speaker 1: there's lots of other E three news obviously that's come out.
- 21:04Speaker 1: This is the week of E three, but we didn't
- 21:06Speaker 1: want to go over all that. For one thing, there's
- 21:08Speaker 1: just a ton of stuff on online about E three
- 21:11Speaker 1: and so many different you know, trailers and presentations and
- 21:16Speaker 1: stuff that if you want to find it, you can
- 21:18Speaker 1: totally track it down. We just wanted to cover a
- 21:21Speaker 1: couple that caught our eye. Yes, yes, something else that
- 21:26Speaker 1: caught her eye. This week was the first episode of Loki.
- 21:28Speaker 1: So we're going to take a quick break, and then
- 21:30Speaker 1: we're going to attempt, in an unspoilery way, to discuss
- 21:36Speaker 1: our thoughts on it. Yes, we'll get up to some
- 21:39Speaker 1: mischief right after this break. So Ariel, I assume you
- 21:55Speaker 1: were anticipating Loki about as much as I was, Like,
- 21:58Speaker 1: as in, say a lot, Yeah, as in like counting
- 22:03Speaker 1: calendar days and reminding yourself that Wednesdays are the new Fridays. Yes, yeah,
- 22:09Speaker 1: and being grateful that I'm getting the show two days
- 22:12Speaker 1: earlier than the previous shows. Yes, I actually ended up
- 22:17Speaker 1: watching it. I want to say I watched it. I
- 22:21Speaker 1: might have watched it on Friday or No, it was Thursday,
- 22:24Speaker 1: so I had to I had to essentially cut myself
- 22:26Speaker 1: off from the Internet for like a little more than
- 22:28Speaker 1: twenty four hours in order to not be spoiled, because
- 22:33Speaker 1: I was really anticipating this one a big a lot too,
- 22:35Speaker 1: because of kind of the groundwork I saw with Wan Division,
- 22:40Speaker 1: and I really wanted to see how they were going
- 22:43Speaker 1: to kind of continue to set up the concept of
- 22:45Speaker 1: the multiverse for the stuff like Dr Strange, which we
- 22:49Speaker 1: know now is that Multiverse of Madness is the subtitle
- 22:52Speaker 1: for that. So um yeah, I was really here. I
- 22:57Speaker 1: felt like Loki was not quite the same character that
- 23:02Speaker 1: we've seen in the films, Like his character has changed
- 23:05Speaker 1: a little bit, which is odd because he's literally plucked
- 23:09Speaker 1: out of time in part of it. Also, I was
- 23:13Speaker 1: a little disappointed, if I'm gonna be honest, with one
- 23:17Speaker 1: of the reveals that we got in the trailer. Uh,
- 23:21Speaker 1: there's a sequence in the trailer that we saw where
- 23:23Speaker 1: he's obviously standing in for an actual historical figure that
- 23:28Speaker 1: was part of a really iconic heist, I'll say. And
- 23:33Speaker 1: the explanation we got in the version of that we got,
- 23:37Speaker 1: we got it in the very first episode, and I
- 23:38Speaker 1: was like, that's it. I was anticipating something so much
- 23:41Speaker 1: bigger than that. So with that reveal, uh, for for
- 23:46Speaker 1: people who've watched it. Theyn't know we're talking about. I
- 23:49Speaker 1: didn't catch it in the trailer at all, and uh,
- 23:53Speaker 1: my husband was delighted because he had just been talking
- 23:56Speaker 1: about that character in like three different friends groups. I
- 24:01Speaker 1: don't know why. I don't know why, but it completely
- 24:06Speaker 1: skipped me until they said it, or until he said
- 24:08Speaker 1: something about it. For me, I'm excited to see where
- 24:13Speaker 1: the show goes. But the first episode was honestly just
- 24:16Speaker 1: a little, a little home hump. There were definitely really
- 24:20Speaker 1: wonderful moments in it, and Tom Hittleston gave a phenomenal performance,
- 24:26Speaker 1: as did everybody else, but it was like largely a recap. Yes,
- 24:31Speaker 1: I felt like I felt like it was it was
- 24:36Speaker 1: trying to set a foundation but trying a little too hard. Like,
- 24:42Speaker 1: I don't know, I felt like not a lot happened
- 24:45Speaker 1: in that first episode, Like like I felt like it
- 24:48Speaker 1: was treading water quite a bit until you got to
- 24:50Speaker 1: the end. There was a sort of unnecessary escape sequence
- 24:56Speaker 1: that literally doesn't go anywhere um and that was that
- 25:01Speaker 1: was a little frustrating, Like I just felt like like
- 25:03Speaker 1: this could have been tightened up a bit and we
- 25:05Speaker 1: could have moved on a little bit further into the
- 25:07Speaker 1: story because they have set up that there is going
- 25:10Speaker 1: to be a pretty nasty antagonist, and I've got my
- 25:16Speaker 1: thoughts on who that antagonist is. Yeah, I think pretty
- 25:21Speaker 1: much everyone probably thinks the same thing I do, so
- 25:23Speaker 1: I'm not making myself special here on that, but I
- 25:28Speaker 1: mean I get it, like they have to set up
- 25:30Speaker 1: that Loki is is out of time, both figuratively and literally,
- 25:35Speaker 1: that Loki does not understand the rules of the new
- 25:39Speaker 1: world that he finds himself in. But so much of
- 25:44Speaker 1: our time in that episode has spent on that, and
- 25:47Speaker 1: I feel like we get it much earlier than than
- 25:50Speaker 1: it's necessary. Well, and part of it is they had
- 25:53Speaker 1: to logically, I guess. I hope this isn't a spoiler.
- 25:55Speaker 1: If it is, will cut it out. But they had
- 25:58Speaker 1: to grow Lokey to a similar understanding is to where
- 26:05Speaker 1: we left off with him, which is not the same
- 26:07Speaker 1: place where that Loki left off. Yes, okay, so yeah,
- 26:10Speaker 1: that's a good point. So the Lokey that's plucked out
- 26:12Speaker 1: of time is a low key that is shortly. I
- 26:18Speaker 1: think we can say this because it's it's it ties
- 26:21Speaker 1: into end game, and if you haven't seen end Game,
- 26:23Speaker 1: then you're really out of the loop here. But it
- 26:26Speaker 1: tie that that Loki is the lokey shortly after the
- 26:29Speaker 1: Battle of New York from the first Avengers movie. Mostly, yeah,
- 26:34Speaker 1: that's none of the stuff that follows Avengers has happened yet.
- 26:39Speaker 1: So with that in mind, then this Loki is definitely
- 26:42Speaker 1: going to have a different kind of bearing an attitude,
- 26:48Speaker 1: and they try to address that in the way where
- 26:52Speaker 1: Loki can have some very rapid character growth. And I
- 26:55Speaker 1: get it. Like the reason they need to do that
- 26:57Speaker 1: is they need to get to a low key who
- 27:00Speaker 1: can be a collaborative partner in the attempts to defeat
- 27:05Speaker 1: this antagonist. Uh, you know, that's a necessity. And how
- 27:08Speaker 1: do you do that with someone who just was literally
- 27:11Speaker 1: just in a moment where he had nearly conquered Earth.
- 27:15Speaker 1: How do you get to that, you know, make that transition.
- 27:18Speaker 1: I don't think it quite worked. I don't think it
- 27:21Speaker 1: were at least not for me, not to project it
- 27:24Speaker 1: on anyone else. I don't think it was a bad episode.
- 27:27Speaker 1: I think, like you said, I think the performances were great.
- 27:29Speaker 1: There were a lot of moments that I found genuinely entertaining. Um,
- 27:33Speaker 1: a lot of the little side characters that I thought
- 27:36Speaker 1: were amazing and I hope we get to see more
- 27:38Speaker 1: of them in future episodes. But it did not it
- 27:43Speaker 1: felt right. It's weird to say it both felt rushed
- 27:46Speaker 1: in the sense of the character development. Stuff felt rushed,
- 27:49Speaker 1: and it also felt like it was treading water as
- 27:53Speaker 1: far as you know, actual plot moving along. Yeah, I
- 27:58Speaker 1: would imagine that's it feels like working in the t
- 28:01Speaker 1: V a he time variance time variance authority. I mean
- 28:07Speaker 1: that being said, One Division was the show I was
- 28:10Speaker 1: least excited about when they announced these Marvel interim shows,
- 28:16Speaker 1: and I feel like it just was the one that
- 28:20Speaker 1: came out of the gate swinging. It was the strongest one,
- 28:23Speaker 1: so everything has to measure up to that. And I
- 28:26Speaker 1: still am I. I will watch the heck out of Loki.
- 28:30Speaker 1: I'm still very excited about everything that's gonna come. Um.
- 28:34Speaker 1: You know, most times when I watch a show, I'm like,
- 28:36Speaker 1: I'm going to give it past the first episode because
- 28:38Speaker 1: the first episode is almost always set up. Um. But yeah,
- 28:43Speaker 1: so far One Division is still at the top of
- 28:45Speaker 1: the ranking for me. Well, in One Division, they just
- 28:48Speaker 1: decided to take their time, even giving you a hint
- 28:52Speaker 1: about something wrong happening right, Like, like each of the
- 28:56Speaker 1: first three episodes are with with short deviations. They are
- 29:03Speaker 1: very close to the kinds of sitcoms that they are
- 29:05Speaker 1: parodying and uh, and so they kind of stand on
- 29:09Speaker 1: their own as those sort of things with a little
- 29:10Speaker 1: bit of weirdness thrown in, just just enough for you
- 29:13Speaker 1: to go like, but what's really going on? But because
- 29:17Speaker 1: they were taking their time for world building, um and
- 29:21Speaker 1: it was a truly enjoyable experience. Yeah, it didn't bother me.
- 29:24Speaker 1: Whereas Loki, I felt like like they could have been
- 29:29Speaker 1: doing more. And the granted, like the character stuff, Wilson's stuff,
- 29:32Speaker 1: Owen Wilson stuff was great too, Like I really liked
- 29:35Speaker 1: his character. Um and it would have been a shame
- 29:38Speaker 1: to lose some of that of the two characters playing
- 29:42Speaker 1: off each other. But I don't know, it just it
- 29:45Speaker 1: wasn't quite zippy enough for me. I am hoping that
- 29:48Speaker 1: the second episode, which will be live by the time
- 29:50Speaker 1: this episode goes out, I'm hoping that that one feels
- 29:54Speaker 1: like it's more on track, like now that they've got
- 29:56Speaker 1: the the basics down, uh, that they can really take off. Also,
- 30:01Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing the Georgia Renaissance Festival in
- 30:05Speaker 1: the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Yes, yeah, I'm looking forward to
- 30:09Speaker 1: that too. And I'm also hopeful that this one will
- 30:13Speaker 1: allow Loki to join back into the m c U stream,
- 30:16Speaker 1: because he really is one of my favorite characters him
- 30:19Speaker 1: in the Hulk. From what I understand, this series is
- 30:24Speaker 1: designed so that it can be an ongoing series, So
- 30:28Speaker 1: it may be that Loki can continue, but maybe not
- 30:33Speaker 1: as part of the main mc U timeline. It might
- 30:36Speaker 1: be that Loki is from kind of a separate entity
- 30:40Speaker 1: that continues to do work for the tv A or
- 30:43Speaker 1: is on the run from the t v A. He
- 30:46Speaker 1: can he can join Randall Park and they can have
- 30:48Speaker 1: a buddy buddy cop Marvel show. Yeah, yeah, that would
- 30:52Speaker 1: be fun. It would be It would be a weird listen.
- 30:57Speaker 1: I would love to see both of those care actors
- 31:00Speaker 1: in lots more stuff. So I'm not gonna object, but yeah,
- 31:04Speaker 1: I'm I'm cautiously um looking forward to the next few episodes.
- 31:09Speaker 1: And I didn't hate the first episode. I want to
- 31:11Speaker 1: make that clear too. I just felt like it did
- 31:14Speaker 1: not quite live up to my expectations. Uh. I would
- 31:18Speaker 1: probably put it on par with Falcon in the Winter
- 31:21Speaker 1: Soldier in that although my my expectations for Falcon the
- 31:25Speaker 1: Winter Soldier were much lower because I didn't expect much
- 31:29Speaker 1: from it, but it turned out to be a good
- 31:31Speaker 1: series as well. But yeah, like the Falcon and the
- 31:35Speaker 1: Winter Soldiers starting off didn't quite hook me either until
- 31:40Speaker 1: really episode two. So, um, we'll see if that that's
- 31:44Speaker 1: true with Loki. Yeah, I have to agree with you there. Well,
- 31:49Speaker 1: we've got a couple of interesting properties to mash up
- 31:54Speaker 1: together when we come back, and they will tie into
- 31:57Speaker 1: a couple of other news items that will cover quickly
- 32:01Speaker 1: before we go into the mash up. So because we've
- 32:03Speaker 1: gotta prep some let's go into a quick break, all right,
- 32:23Speaker 1: So this week's mashup, welcome everybody, was inspired by a
- 32:28Speaker 1: couple of news articles that at least one of them
- 32:31Speaker 1: we've touched on a little bit, and that is that
- 32:33Speaker 1: Aquaman two just got its title and they just released
- 32:37Speaker 1: what the title is going to be. And also there's
- 32:40Speaker 1: some news about HBO uh Scooby Doo spinoff show. Um so, Jonathan,
- 32:47Speaker 1: do you want to talk a little bit about Aquaman. Sure,
- 32:49Speaker 1: I'll talk about fish Boy. Uh So, Aquaman the sequel's
- 32:55Speaker 1: name is Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom, So I am
- 32:58Speaker 1: I fully expect him to encounter Harrison Ford and have
- 33:02Speaker 1: an Indiana Jones adventure under the sea. Darling gets better
- 33:07Speaker 1: down where it's weather, take it from me. That movie
- 33:10Speaker 1: is currently slated to to go into theaters on December six,
- 33:16Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. So assuming that, you know, people behave
- 33:22Speaker 1: themselves and we don't have another pandemic to deal with,
- 33:26Speaker 1: that should be when we actually see that come to theaters.
- 33:29Speaker 1: Um yeah, And uh, you know, I watched the first
- 33:32Speaker 1: Aquaman movie. I thought that it had some entertaining moments,
- 33:36Speaker 1: but kind of like Free Guy, I also felt that
- 33:39Speaker 1: there were ties where there was just way too much
- 33:41Speaker 1: going on in the screen and I was like, yeah,
- 33:43Speaker 1: this is My eyes are too old for this movie.
- 33:46Speaker 1: So so I'm curious about this. It's it's gonna be
- 33:51Speaker 1: another big spectacle film. I am absolutely certain of that.
- 33:56Speaker 1: But um yeah, that's it. It's an Aquaman and Lost Kingdom.
- 34:01Speaker 1: And if it does come out on December six, twenty two,
- 34:08Speaker 1: it will also apparently go head to head with another
- 34:13Speaker 1: long anticipated sequel, Avatar to Avatar, the huge hit movie
- 34:19Speaker 1: that made way too much money, and yet anyone I
- 34:22Speaker 1: talked to who has seen it can't name any characters
- 34:25Speaker 1: from that film. That is that is also getting a
- 34:28Speaker 1: way too many sequels. Yes. Uh. The other news article
- 34:33Speaker 1: we have is that HBO Max is doing a Scooby
- 34:37Speaker 1: Doo spin off. Like I said, it's called Velma. It's
- 34:39Speaker 1: not really for kids, but they did release some details
- 34:41Speaker 1: about it at the TV Kids Summer Festival. And this
- 34:44Speaker 1: obviously is focusing on Velma. She's going to be voiced
- 34:47Speaker 1: by um Mindy Kaling. She's gonna be of East Asian descent. Uh.
- 34:53Speaker 1: And and so that kind of gives Velma a little
- 34:56Speaker 1: bit more of an interesting backstory as opposed to just
- 35:00Speaker 1: being the kind of book nerd that she has been
- 35:01Speaker 1: in the past. Uh. And it's gonna have Daphne and
- 35:04Speaker 1: Fred and Shaggy in it, but it's not going to
- 35:06Speaker 1: have Scooby Doo. That's not going to have a mystery
- 35:10Speaker 1: machine Van. Well, maybe I'll have a mystery machine. It
- 35:12Speaker 1: may not be a Van um. And apparently even though
- 35:17Speaker 1: there's no Scooby Doo, Shaggy might speak doc. I'm not
- 35:21Speaker 1: really sure. Um. So initially my thoughts were, how can
- 35:26Speaker 1: you have Scooby Doo without Scooby Doo, even though the
- 35:30Speaker 1: show is called Velma. So I guess that answers the question.
- 35:33Speaker 1: But then in writing my Scooby Doo Aquaman mashup, guess what,
- 35:37Speaker 1: your bashup doesn't have Scooby Doo in it. My mashup
- 35:41Speaker 1: does not have Scooby Doo in it. Color me ashamed
- 35:45Speaker 1: for being so judgmental. So do you want to go first?
- 35:50Speaker 1: Or do you want me to go first? Um, that's
- 35:54Speaker 1: an excellent question. You know what, I think I'll go
- 35:55Speaker 1: first this time. Okay, I'm calling this one. What Curry? Okay,
- 36:01Speaker 1: here we go. Arthur Curry has a problem. The old
- 36:07Speaker 1: abandoned amusement park on the outskirts of Atlantis is said
- 36:10Speaker 1: to be haunted, but Arthur suspects something else is going on.
- 36:14Speaker 1: He just can't seem to figure it out. So Arthur,
- 36:17Speaker 1: a k a Aquaman, decides to contact his friends to
- 36:21Speaker 1: see if they can help him uncover the mystery. Unfortunately,
- 36:25Speaker 1: all the rest of the super Friends aren't answering their phones.
- 36:29Speaker 1: Aquaman tries texting Wonder Woman, no luck. He tries getting
- 36:33Speaker 1: Batman on the bat phone, but it goes straight to
- 36:35Speaker 1: bat voicemail instead. Superman has never, not once in Aquaman's
- 36:41Speaker 1: life ever even acknowledged that he exists. In fact, most
- 36:46Speaker 1: of the time, Superman doesn't seem to notice that anyone exists.
- 36:49Speaker 1: He's a jerk that Superman, even Jana and Zan brush
- 36:54Speaker 1: him off. But that's okay because Atlantis is underwater and
- 36:57Speaker 1: Zan kind of just isn't much help down there or
- 37:02Speaker 1: up there for that matter. Sand's a loser, so Arthur
- 37:06Speaker 1: turns to the next best thing. His friends at the
- 37:09Speaker 1: Justice League might not help him, but his old buddy
- 37:12Speaker 1: Dobie Gillis sure could. He could call on Dobe and
- 37:16Speaker 1: Zelda and Talia and Maynard, except he he gets lost
- 37:20Speaker 1: in the apartment building and knocks on the wrong door,
- 37:22Speaker 1: and a guy who looks a lot like Doobie Gillis
- 37:25Speaker 1: but isn't Doobie Gillis answers his name is Shaggy. Before
- 37:31Speaker 1: Arthur can even apologize for his mistake, he finds himself
- 37:34Speaker 1: in conversation with four young people, Shaggy, Velma, Daphne, and
- 37:39Speaker 1: Fred Oh, and a dog named Scooby Doo who can
- 37:42Speaker 1: sort of talk. But then Aquaman has seen chariots pulled
- 37:46Speaker 1: by giant crabs, so he's totally down with with. Aquaman
- 37:50Speaker 1: explains his predicament and the gang agrees to help him out.
- 37:54Speaker 1: They first rifle through their closets and pull out their
- 37:56Speaker 1: deep diving scuba equipment. Fred also insists on wearing a
- 38:01Speaker 1: very tiny speed oh, perhaps because he feels somewhat threatened
- 38:05Speaker 1: by all the muscles on Aquaman. Daphne finds this extremely exasperating.
- 38:11Speaker 1: The team then head down to Atlantis, and soon they're
- 38:14Speaker 1: at the old, abandoned amusement park out back you know,
- 38:18Speaker 1: outback of Atlantis. There they split up to search for clues.
- 38:22Speaker 1: Aquaman is paired with Shaggy and Scuba. The other three
- 38:25Speaker 1: head in the opposite direction. Aquaman, Scoob, and Shaggy are
- 38:29Speaker 1: walking on the seabed past the Over the Waves Dark Ride,
- 38:34Speaker 1: an old ride it was supposed to show what life
- 38:36Speaker 1: was above the surface. Curious, Shaggy asks if they can
- 38:40Speaker 1: check it out, so Aquaman agrees and they walk in.
- 38:44Speaker 1: They see the story of a young redheaded woman who
- 38:47Speaker 1: more than anything just wants to live under the water,
- 38:50Speaker 1: but she can't because she's a stupid human and stupid
- 38:53Speaker 1: humans don't breathe water, So she sings a song about it,
- 38:56Speaker 1: and she plays with a dingle hopper as if it's
- 38:58Speaker 1: some sort of eating utensil. Because stupid anyway, Just as
- 39:02Speaker 1: they are making their way through the ride, a hideous
- 39:05Speaker 1: ghost crab pops up from behind one of the animatronic scenes.
- 39:09Speaker 1: Aga ghost, says Arthur Curry, and then Shaggy Scoop and
- 39:14Speaker 1: Arthur and the ghost crab go through a montage of
- 39:17Speaker 1: running through the ride while some poppy bubblegum music plays
- 39:21Speaker 1: in the background. We then cut over to Fred, Vilma
- 39:24Speaker 1: and Daphne. Daphne has found some mysterious footprints on the
- 39:27Speaker 1: sea floor and they lead back to the wall of
- 39:30Speaker 1: what looks like an old West saloon, complete with fake
- 39:33Speaker 1: sea horses tied up to a hitching post outside. Hey guys,
- 39:38Speaker 1: look here, Fred looks and says, weird. The tracks look
- 39:41Speaker 1: like they start here, but this one is cut off
- 39:44Speaker 1: right at the wall. There must be some sort of
- 39:47Speaker 1: secret door, says Velma, and the three began looking for
- 39:50Speaker 1: a trigger of some sort. Look says Daphne, and she
- 39:53Speaker 1: points to a small foot lever near the corner, so
- 39:56Speaker 1: she steps on it and shook a hidden doors. It
- 40:00Speaker 1: sides open and the three go inside. There they find
- 40:03Speaker 1: a desk with a big blueprint on it that says
- 40:06Speaker 1: my plan to take over Atlantis. This might be a clue,
- 40:10Speaker 1: says Fred. Velma and Daphne share a knowing look Fred.
- 40:14Speaker 1: That poor idiot in its teeny tiny speed of The
- 40:18Speaker 1: three leave the secret room to track down Shaggy, Scuba
- 40:21Speaker 1: and Aquaman. Just as those three come barreling down the fairway,
- 40:25Speaker 1: Aquaman collides with Velma. My glasses, she says, and she
- 40:30Speaker 1: sticks out her hands, which make contact with Aquaman's extremely
- 40:33Speaker 1: muscular chest. Um you're still wearing your glasses, he says,
- 40:39Speaker 1: Shut up, Aquaman, she says. Then she apologizes profously for
- 40:43Speaker 1: violating Aquaman's personal space and autonomy because you know, I can't.
- 40:47Speaker 1: I can't just let that jokeli. So, guys, there's a
- 40:50Speaker 1: monster chasing us, says Shaggy. It's a Google ghost crab,
- 40:54Speaker 1: says Scooby. A ghost crab, you say, says Fred. Well,
- 40:58Speaker 1: let's set a trap for it, and so the group
- 41:00Speaker 1: quickly gets together sets up this elaborate trap, using the
- 41:04Speaker 1: Ferriss water wheel as a base of operations. Shaggy and
- 41:07Speaker 1: Scoob are to be the bait so they stand in
- 41:10Speaker 1: front of the wheel and they have a totally natural conversation,
- 41:13Speaker 1: and suddenly the crab emerges from deep within the park
- 41:16Speaker 1: and begins to advance menacingly, But just as it appears
- 41:20Speaker 1: to be closing in, wham, Aquaman hits it with a
- 41:23Speaker 1: bumper card. And then there's a general pylon and the
- 41:26Speaker 1: crab says, woof ouch, watch it, you punks. Now it's
- 41:30Speaker 1: time to see who you really are, says Fred, and
- 41:33Speaker 1: he grabs the crab's head and he pulls it. Pop
- 41:37Speaker 1: off comes the costume crab head, and underneath is or Marius,
- 41:42Speaker 1: the Ocean Master. Hang on a second, says Shaggy, and
- 41:45Speaker 1: he grabs Ocean Master's face and pulls, revealing that that
- 41:49Speaker 1: too was a mask. Old Man Jenkins says everyone, including Aquaman.
- 41:55Speaker 1: So you're the one who wanted to take over Atlantis,
- 41:58Speaker 1: says Daphne. I'll wait a guy in a where were
- 42:00Speaker 1: they too? If it hadn't been for your las kids
- 42:02Speaker 1: and that Justice League reject says Old Man Jenkins. Aquaman
- 42:06Speaker 1: looks sad, but then the Ocean Police, I guess show
- 42:11Speaker 1: up and they take Old Man Jenkins away, and the
- 42:14Speaker 1: group all parties down to some undersea rock and roll.
- 42:17Speaker 1: An Aquaman decides to name them the Justice League but
- 42:20Speaker 1: for real, you guys, and a new superhero group is
- 42:24Speaker 1: formed the end. I love that. Also, I'm going to
- 42:31Speaker 1: start a jar for every I love your mashups. But
- 42:33Speaker 1: I'm gonna start a jar for every time you start
- 42:35Speaker 1: a mash up with so and so. How's a problem, Well, yeah,
- 42:38Speaker 1: then you're that's going to be every single one. Then, yes,
- 42:42Speaker 1: somewhere where you didn't do that, somewhere around episode six
- 42:45Speaker 1: or seven, I started. It's okay, I love it. Also, surprisingly,
- 42:53Speaker 1: we have some similar through lines. Not surprisingly, maybe surprisingly anyhow,
- 42:58Speaker 1: we have some similar through lies. Uh. My mashup is
- 43:01Speaker 1: called the Scooby Gang. In gold Fishy Business, Arthur Curry
- 43:06Speaker 1: a k A. Aquaman had just been made fun of
- 43:08Speaker 1: for the last time by the Justice League and decided
- 43:11Speaker 1: he was leaving them to find a new gang. A
- 43:14Speaker 1: quick search on his underwater search net Global brought him
- 43:17Speaker 1: to the perfect solution, a company called Mystery Inc. Young
- 43:21Speaker 1: Mystery Solvers for the discreet client. Oscar had only fought
- 43:24Speaker 1: crimes in the past, but crimes mysteries often go hand
- 43:27Speaker 1: in hand, and these dudes looked pretty chill, so he
- 43:30Speaker 1: quickly sent in a resume. When the Scooby Gang got
- 43:33Speaker 1: author's resume, Shaggy was the one to open it Arthur's
- 43:36Speaker 1: curry Shaggy. Shaggy thought, yeah, I love Indian and I
- 43:40Speaker 1: could use a snack, and he immediately called the number
- 43:43Speaker 1: without even asking the rest of the gang. Arthur was
- 43:46Speaker 1: confused as to Whyowian mystery In called him. They asked
- 43:48Speaker 1: for twelve orders of nine, but he figured it was
- 43:51Speaker 1: his first mystery to solve and it was probably an
- 43:53Speaker 1: employment test, so he rushed right over to the Coolsville address,
- 43:57Speaker 1: stopping quickly by Roby Roddy's restaurant to pick up the
- 44:00Speaker 1: US did not when he arrived at the mansion, but
- 44:03Speaker 1: Mystery Ink was housed and he rang the doorbell. The gang,
- 44:06Speaker 1: not expecting anyone, was really confused, even more confused after
- 44:09Speaker 1: Shaggy said, oh, I ordered curry, and then he opened
- 44:11Speaker 1: the door to a hunk who introduced himself as Arthur Curry.
- 44:15Speaker 1: Arthur explained he was here to interview, to join the
- 44:18Speaker 1: gang and to help solve mysteries. Shaggy was a bit
- 44:20Speaker 1: embarrassed and disappointed by the mix up, but was quickly
- 44:22Speaker 1: distracted by the delicious mountain of bread Arthur brought with him.
- 44:26Speaker 1: Before Arthur could finish saying, what's the pay, Dafty shouted,
- 44:29Speaker 1: you are hired, and that's how Arthur joined the Scooby Gang. Serendipitously,
- 44:34Speaker 1: that same hour, the gang got a call to solve
- 44:36Speaker 1: a mystery. Some old millionaires seaside mansion was haunted. Blah
- 44:39Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. They got there and split up
- 44:42Speaker 1: to find out what was going on. The house was
- 44:44Speaker 1: certainly creepy, with taxi or meat gulls and scummy fish
- 44:46Speaker 1: tanks in every room, But two minutes into the search,
- 44:49Speaker 1: Arthur called everyone back into the living room before they
- 44:51Speaker 1: could even find the creepy ghost. I've solved it, Arthur said,
- 44:55Speaker 1: and explained that the mansion wasn't really haunted. It was
- 44:58Speaker 1: the millionaire's niece and nephew dress ing up like pirate
- 45:00Speaker 1: ghosts to scare the uncle out of his house that
- 45:02Speaker 1: they could build a put putt course in its place.
- 45:04Speaker 1: The gang asked how Arthur knew so quickly, and he
- 45:06Speaker 1: said the Goldfish saw the whole thing. While Shaggy and
- 45:09Speaker 1: Scooby were thrilled to solve a case without any frights.
- 45:12Speaker 1: The rest of the gang felt obsolete, especially since they
- 45:15Speaker 1: charged by the hour, and Fred motioned to thank Arthur
- 45:19Speaker 1: for his time and help and then let him go,
- 45:22Speaker 1: and even Daphne had to be grudgingly agreed. Thankfully, When
- 45:26Speaker 1: Arthur got back home, he found a card from the
- 45:28Speaker 1: Justice League apologizing for picking on him and asking him back.
- 45:31Speaker 1: The Justice League never realized how many fish based dilemmas
- 45:34Speaker 1: they had to solve until he was gone. He accepted
- 45:37Speaker 1: their apology and they all lived splashly ever after the end.
- 45:42Speaker 1: I love that that yours took place in the Scooby
- 45:47Speaker 1: world and mine took place in the Aquaman world. Um,
- 45:52Speaker 1: and I also love that, like, yeah, that we both
- 45:56Speaker 1: gave Aquaman some very Scooby do like like attributes and traits. Yeah,
- 46:02Speaker 1: it turns out these two like they'd probably make a
- 46:04Speaker 1: really good team up for all I know, and I
- 46:07Speaker 1: should know this as a geek, but I don't. They've
- 46:08Speaker 1: already teamed up in some cartoons somewhere. I mean, yeah,
- 46:11Speaker 1: that like the crossovers with Scooby Doo and various fictional
- 46:15Speaker 1: and real characters. Um, that list is long, and it
- 46:20Speaker 1: could very well, be that Aquaman has played an integral
- 46:23Speaker 1: part in the Scooby Doo episode, and I too would
- 46:27Speaker 1: not be surprised to learn it, but I do not
- 46:30Speaker 1: have firsthand knowledge of such a thing. So that was
- 46:33Speaker 1: fun though, because it's it's always fun to take something
- 46:37Speaker 1: that that is so formulaic, like a Scooby Doo episode
- 46:40Speaker 1: is incredibly formulaic, and then well what happens if you
- 46:45Speaker 1: throw such and such into that formula? How can you
- 46:48Speaker 1: play with that? Yeah, so that's always fun, and I
- 46:52Speaker 1: love the yours that he just talked to the goldfish
- 46:55Speaker 1: who saw the whole thing. That was great. I loved it.
- 46:59Speaker 1: It was I felt like it was a little bit
- 47:01Speaker 1: of a cop out. I didn't give anybody a big
- 47:02Speaker 1: mystery or haunts. Well, it's the subversion of expectation, right,
- 47:06Speaker 1: because as since Scooby Doo is, I'm so glad I
- 47:09Speaker 1: went first too, because I set up essentially like my
- 47:14Speaker 1: my mashup was essentially like a Scooby Doo episode, right,
- 47:16Speaker 1: It wasn't that different from the Scooby Doo episodes that exist.
- 47:21Speaker 1: So I set I followed the trope, and then you
- 47:25Speaker 1: subverted the trope by having it where instead of the
- 47:28Speaker 1: montage of the monster chasing them all through the area
- 47:33Speaker 1: and then finding clues and then eventually unmasking, you get
- 47:37Speaker 1: to skip all of it because the goldfish saw it
- 47:38Speaker 1: all that. That works a lot better because we had
- 47:41Speaker 1: just heard the more formulaic version, and that's why I
- 47:46Speaker 1: really liked it. I don't think of it as a
- 47:47Speaker 1: cop out. I think of it as a we're pointing
- 47:50Speaker 1: out how how dependent that series was on the formula. Well,
- 47:56Speaker 1: I will take that, and uh, let's nurse. If you
- 48:01Speaker 1: have seen a TV show where they've mashed up Scooby
- 48:04Speaker 1: Doo an Aquaman, or if you have ideas of how
- 48:06Speaker 1: this mashup could go differently than ours, another way to
- 48:09Speaker 1: subvert the formula, you should write in and let us know,
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