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Chuck & Buck 12-12 Hour 3: the Ocho, Mike Holmgren and does the Heisman have a surprise in store? · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 3: My name is Chuck Powell, and we've got the eight
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  Speaker 3: top stories of the day to rip through to get
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  Speaker 3: you ready for the weekend and really bolster your water
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  Speaker 3: cooler game.
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  Speaker 4: It's strong, That's what we're here for.
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  Speaker 2: It's strong.
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  Speaker 4: That's what we're here for.
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  Speaker 2: My friends, I think it could get stronger.
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  Speaker 5: Well, there's only one way to find out. Let's go,
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  Speaker 5: let's do some reps. All right, let's get things started.
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  Speaker 5: Philip Rivers is undoubtedly our number one story, believe it
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  Speaker 5: or not. The Seahawks.
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  Speaker 3: If you're just if you just you know, hey, what's
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  Speaker 3: going on in the world out there. I've been meditating
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  Speaker 3: for the last five days at a rock and a
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  Speaker 3: tent with Aaron Rodgers nightmare. If that's where you've been, well,
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  Speaker 3: well there's a story here that we're dealing with here
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  Speaker 3: in Seattle. The Seahawks this Sunday are going to take
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  Speaker 3: on the Indianapolis Colts, led by potentially quarterback Philip Rivers.
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  Speaker 3: The forty four year old is five years removed from
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  Speaker 3: the National Football League, hasn't played in five years. It
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  Speaker 3: was on the Hall of Fame ballot as we speak,
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  Speaker 3: but he is going to try and play football again.
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  Speaker 3: Because of the Daniel Jones and Riley Leonard injuries last
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  Speaker 3: week for Indianapolis, they didn't have a quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: They gave Philip Rivers a call.
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  Speaker 3: They asked if he would like to give it a go,
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  Speaker 3: and he says, Dad, gummet, why not? Literally what he said.
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  Speaker 3: And so it's been the talk of the football world.
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  Speaker 3: What is this going to look like? On Sunday? Yesterday
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  Speaker 3: we had a chance to chat with Kurt Warner, who
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  Speaker 3: went through a similar experience a few years ago. After
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  Speaker 3: his career was over. The Cardinals were kicking the tires
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  Speaker 3: on maybe bringing him out of retirement. So we had
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  Speaker 3: to contemplate this himself. So he was the perfect guest
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  Speaker 3: to get on yesterday to talk about this Philip Rivers situation.
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  Speaker 3: And so we'll start with the part of the conversation
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  Speaker 3: with Kurt Warner yesterday and that when that's when I
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  Speaker 3: just asked him, can Philip Rivers pull this thing off?
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I can't answer that because I've never been there,
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  Speaker 6: and I don't know who who has, you know, I
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  Speaker 6: mean it it obviously sounds crazy, you know. I do remember,
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  Speaker 6: you know, a number of years after I retired, but
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  Speaker 6: the Cardinals here, we're having some issues with the quarterbacks
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  Speaker 6: and some injuries, and you know, there were a speculation
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  Speaker 6: and maybe they should call Kurt. I remember going out
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  Speaker 6: in the backyard and throwing the football around a little bit, like, hey,
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  Speaker 6: if they call, you know, you know, will I entertain it?
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  Speaker 6: And all of those things. So, you know, I kind
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  Speaker 6: of remember back to a few years after being out
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  Speaker 6: of the league, and you know, my biggest issue wasn't
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  Speaker 6: the physical part of it in terms of you know,
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  Speaker 6: throwing a football or or being in shape. My biggest
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  Speaker 6: worry and concern was the mental aspect of you know,
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  Speaker 6: being able to get up to speed. So you know, A,
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  Speaker 6: I could have success, B I could protect myself from
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  Speaker 6: that standpoint. You know that that, you know, being out
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  Speaker 6: of the game for five years and understanding you know,
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  Speaker 6: the athletes in the game and what it takes to
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  Speaker 6: play at that level.
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  Speaker 7: You know.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, to me, it would be an incredible feed
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  Speaker 6: for him to come back after a week and get
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  Speaker 6: out there and and perform extremely well. I mean probably
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  Speaker 6: even to you know, to perform at an average level
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  Speaker 6: after that would be pretty incredible because I respect the
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  Speaker 6: game so much, you know that, even when I was
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  Speaker 6: considered it, you know, it was like, man, there was
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  Speaker 6: nothing in my mind that said, oh, I can step
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  Speaker 6: back on that field and in the short term be
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  Speaker 6: the same player I was, you know years ago. I
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  Speaker 6: just respect the game and what it is, and you
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  Speaker 6: know what it takes to be great at this level.
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  Speaker 6: I respected it too much to think that I could
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  Speaker 6: be great, you know quickly. You know that I think
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  Speaker 6: I could get up the speed and get back there.
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  Speaker 6: Well yeah, I mean I think all of us competitors
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  Speaker 6: think that. But that's kind of what I look at
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  Speaker 6: here is, man. You know, I respect Philip for giving
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  Speaker 6: it a shot, and you know, for them to you know,
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  Speaker 6: try to uncover everything to have success.
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  Speaker 8: Uh.
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  Speaker 6: And I think like most of us, we're intrigued, we're excited,
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  Speaker 6: were interested, We just wanted to end at least fairly well,
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  Speaker 6: you know, like that's my biggest thing is I just
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  Speaker 6: don't want this to be a bad thing, you know.
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  Speaker 6: And you know, I should say another thing that I
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  Speaker 6: was concerned about, you know when when I was even
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  Speaker 6: just considering it, and the Cardinals never called it, So
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  Speaker 6: it was never anything like like this with Philip. But
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  Speaker 6: the other other thing was just you know, the reaction
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  Speaker 6: of your body to things that you haven't done. Like
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  Speaker 6: I didn't want to be a guy that went back
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  Speaker 6: out there and like you know, pull the hamstring or
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  Speaker 6: pull the muscle or or hurt something, you know, in
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  Speaker 6: the first ten plays of my first hit because my
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  Speaker 6: body wasn't ready you know, for a quick movement or
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  Speaker 6: to take a hit or whatever that was. And so
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  Speaker 6: that was another concern of mine. And so I think
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  Speaker 6: that's the big concern for me. You know, he goes
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  Speaker 6: out there, is I don't want it to be you know,
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  Speaker 6: so anticlimacting and he comes back and he gets hurt,
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  Speaker 6: and you know, it may be what we all expect.
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  Speaker 6: And I don't want him to go out there and
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  Speaker 6: just get beat up because he's just not mentally able
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  Speaker 6: to you know, to handle the speed and everything that's
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  Speaker 6: coming at him, and the new offense and all of
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  Speaker 6: that stuff. And so I think there are some distinct
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  Speaker 6: challenges without a doubt, and you have to respect the
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  Speaker 6: game enough to to just say, you know, I think
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  Speaker 6: it will be hard, you know, for any to come
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  Speaker 6: back and have you know, a level of success in
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  Speaker 6: such a short period of time.
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  Speaker 3: Kurt Warner, whether it's yesterday, if you want to hear
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  Speaker 3: the entire conversation, do so on our podcast ninety three
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  Speaker 2: I take it.
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  Speaker 3: I've taken it even further than I think anybody else.
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  Speaker 3: I think most people are coming on here and saying
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  Speaker 3: how hard it's going to be, and I think it's
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  Speaker 3: going to be impossible. And it's because of the position.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Marshawn Lynch came back. How long was he out?
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  Speaker 3: Two three years? And he came taking a handoff and
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  Speaker 3: running it into a whole. I think that's possible. But
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  Speaker 3: I requate quate like Bucky this, this goes right to
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  Speaker 3: you quarterback position being so complex and having so much responsibility.
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  Speaker 3: I would equate this to like a baseball player trying
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  Speaker 3: to come back like Prince Fielder. Prince Fielder has been
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  Speaker 3: removed from the game for about five years. Imagine if hey,
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  Speaker 3: would you like to give it a shot again? We
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  Speaker 3: really need a first basement. Okay, how long do I
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  Speaker 3: have to get ready? Five days?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well, can I face the live pitching? No, because
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  Speaker 3: we can't risk you getting hurt. You can only go
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  Speaker 3: in a cage. You can go into a cage as
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  Speaker 3: much as you want, but we're not going to throw
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  Speaker 3: at the speed of the pitches that you're going to
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  Speaker 3: face because we can't risk you getting hurt because that
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  Speaker 3: would just undo all of it. Oh okay, well, am
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  Speaker 3: I at least facing a bad pitcher. No, you're facing
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  Speaker 3: the best picture in the league, Derek Schooble. That's who
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  Speaker 3: you're facing this week. Like, I think it sounds Prince
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  Speaker 3: Fielder would go zero for four with four strikeouts under
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  Speaker 3: that in that scenario, And I think Philip Rivers.
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  Speaker 2: And I like Philip Rivers unlike you. I like Philip Rivers.
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  Speaker 3: I think he stands no chance of having success on Sunday. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I mean more than likely he would go for with
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  Speaker 3: four strikeouts. You're right, more than likely, But there is
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  Speaker 3: a chance that he would lock up on there's a
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  Speaker 3: chance Okay, so there's a chance Philip Rivers could lock
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  Speaker 3: up on a deep throw.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a chance that he could do.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying he can't complete a pass, but in
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  Speaker 3: terms of can he have a successful day quarterbacking in
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  Speaker 3: the National Football League, I don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: Well. So to me, it's there's there's a part of it.
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  Speaker 9: It's a great analogy because yes, it's the idea of
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  Speaker 9: are you going to be successful? Far fetched, very far
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  Speaker 9: fetched because of all of the things that go into it.
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  Speaker 9: The idea of playing quarterback, to correlating it to like
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  Speaker 9: a baseball player would be like, okay, if it wasn't
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  Speaker 9: Prince Fielder, if it was somebody that actually knew how
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  Speaker 9: to bunt and had bunted in their life. A successful
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  Speaker 9: day you might get just lay one down. You might
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  Speaker 9: be able to there's other things you could do outside
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  Speaker 9: of locking up and squaring one up one hundred percent. Now,
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  Speaker 9: hitting a baseball is more difficult than dumping it off
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  Speaker 9: to a running back or throwing to a bubble screen,
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  Speaker 9: or you know, a little hook by your tight end
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  Speaker 9: and you see that he's open, and there happened to
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  Speaker 9: be a clear lane right there. He can do that
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  Speaker 9: in his sleep until he's fifty five years old. Now,
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  Speaker 9: what Kurt Warner's talking about, like the risk of boy
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  Speaker 9: just popping a hamstring just because you're not used to
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  Speaker 9: quick agile moves. Not that you were quick in agile
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  Speaker 9: four or five years ago when you played so, but
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  Speaker 9: you were used to taking collisions. Yeah, oh yeah, I
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  Speaker 9: mean you're used to the speed of the game. Oh
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  Speaker 9: my god, Yeah, there's a I mean, I'm not going
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  Speaker 9: to sit here and say that it's far fetch. I've
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  Speaker 9: used the analogy before of like, how just taking an
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  Speaker 9: off season off and then I go into spring training
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  Speaker 9: and how fast it seems, just the simple playing catch
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  Speaker 9: And then you stand in the batter's box in the
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  Speaker 9: first like few days. You don't even get to hit.
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  Speaker 9: You just have to stand there like a crash test dummy,
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  Speaker 9: hoping that this dude that's winging it at you doesn't
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  Speaker 9: let it fly since he's had some time off. It
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  Speaker 9: seems it's not relative. The speed isn't relative. It seems
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  Speaker 9: too fast. Now that said, there was the one year
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  Speaker 9: that broke my wrist, and then I went straight from
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  Speaker 9: having no practice at all down to Venezuela to play
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  Speaker 9: and I end up hitting seven home runs in seven games.
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  Speaker 9: But the game was way fast right there, Like it
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  Speaker 9: did not feel normal, didn't feel like I was on
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  Speaker 9: my game. And yet probably one of my hottest streaks
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  Speaker 9: I've ever had, simply because the fact that I could
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  Speaker 9: still swing and if I ran into it, it could
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  Speaker 9: do I could still do damage.
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  Speaker 2: That the potential is still there, the likelihood of that.
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  Speaker 9: If you would ask me to do that every single offseason,
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  Speaker 9: take six months off and then no practice, go play
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  Speaker 9: in Venezuela, chances are I'm gonna go oh for thirty
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  Speaker 9: five or one for thirty five and.
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  Speaker 2: Not hit any home runs.
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  Speaker 9: Just so it's that's where I'm not so far as
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  Speaker 9: it's impossible, it's just far fast.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna take one off season and then we're going
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  Speaker 3: to exaggerate that to five full years. And you're not
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  Speaker 3: a twenty four year old, You're a forty four year old, right,
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  Speaker 3: Like you would not have had that streak in Venezuela, Right, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 2: Would not have had that streak.
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  Speaker 9: But to think that I couldn't even I mean right now, no,
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  Speaker 9: because I can't see the ball. But I mean to
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  Speaker 9: think that you couldn't go out there and still have
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  Speaker 9: a moment where you just it's fast against fast, and
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  Speaker 9: you're like, but I'm muscle memory. I'll give my winging
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  Speaker 9: in there, and maybe a guy makes a great catch
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  Speaker 9: next thing. You know, you have that five times and
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  Speaker 9: you could win a go ball game.
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  Speaker 2: I'll give him that. I think that he could have
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  Speaker 2: a moment.
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  Speaker 3: I think he could complete a pass deep down field
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  Speaker 3: or I'm okay, there we go, and I think he's
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  Speaker 3: also going to throw three pick sixes and get sacked
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  Speaker 3: twelve times.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's I just I hope I'm wrong. I said
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  Speaker 2: this earlier. I really do.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I want the Seahawks to win, and I
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  Speaker 3: think that they're going to no matter what Philip Rivers does.
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  Speaker 3: But I hope I'm wrong because I want this to
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  Speaker 3: be a happy ending. I want I want to see
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  Speaker 3: some success. I want this to be It's gonna be
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  Speaker 3: far more interesting if he has success and versus he
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  Speaker 3: just falls completely on his face or gets hurt or
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  Speaker 3: something like that.
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  Speaker 4: Just so she was doing it against another team, so
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  Speaker 4: I could support him.
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  Speaker 3: More Seahawks colts Greg Bell was with us an hour ago,
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  Speaker 3: and of course everything funnels through this Philip Rivers store.
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  Speaker 3: And still we ask Greg for what the key is
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  Speaker 3: going to be in this game.
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  Speaker 10: If Indianapolis can do with really no team including the
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  Speaker 10: Rams and forty nine ers have done on the Seahucks,
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  Speaker 10: and let's run the ball early on early downs. If
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  Speaker 10: they can do that and make Rivers' third down third
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  Speaker 10: and two instead of third and ten, then the Colts
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  Speaker 10: have a chance. But nobody yet has done that. Some
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  Speaker 10: of the reasons the Seahawks are third or fourth in
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  Speaker 10: the league and all the metrics for defense is because
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  Speaker 10: teams just don't try them because they're done by two
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  Speaker 10: scores in the first half. So can the Colts keep
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  Speaker 10: Taylor producing to a level that Philip Rivers doesn't have
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  Speaker 10: to drop back forty times in long yardage to win?
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  Speaker 10: Because I mean, come on, as great as Philip Rivers
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  Speaker 10: is going to end up being in the Hall of Fame,
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  Speaker 10: how he has sent you can't expect him to throw
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  Speaker 10: forty times in long yardage against any defense, especially Mike
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  Speaker 10: McDonald's one of the best NFL defense is going right
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  Speaker 10: now to win. So that's where the Seahawks game plan
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  Speaker 10: is starting. Is Jonathan Taylor unfits tackling Mike Donald made
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  Speaker 10: the point this week that Taylor is the fastest running
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  Speaker 10: back they've played. He breaks tackles and he gets away
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  Speaker 10: from you when you break the tackles. So it's really
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  Speaker 10: key for Seattle. It's short tackling at the line of
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  Speaker 10: scrimmage because this guy, even more than Beshawn Robbinson, he'll
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  Speaker 10: get away from you if you'll tackle him.
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  Speaker 3: Craig Bell with us an hour ago. He'll uh more
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  Speaker 3: on Greg here in a moment. Hawks into the game
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  Speaker 3: at thirteen and a half point favorite. It opened to
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  Speaker 3: three and a half, so the Daniel Jones injury has
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  Speaker 3: changed it by ten points. I still don't think it's enough.
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  Speaker 3: I'm expecting the Seahawks to smack him. Kick off is
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  Speaker 3: at one twenty five on Sunday. I just we got
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  Speaker 3: other things to get I just say one other thing
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  Speaker 3: if he does have success, because believe me, there are
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  Speaker 3: a lot of recently retired since Philip Rivers has retired quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 3: and they sit around all the time thinking wonder if
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  Speaker 3: I could do this again. If he does have success
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  Speaker 3: on Sunday, don't be's prized. If like three four guys
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  Speaker 3: decide I'm gonna work out this offseason.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna play again like.
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  Speaker 3: A Roethlisberger or a even a like I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 3: surprised if three or four quarterbacks, if he has them six,
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna use him as.
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  Speaker 2: Their dinna pig. If he gets demolished, to'll be like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do that again.
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  Speaker 4: Glad it was him and me.
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  Speaker 3: But if they, if they are watching and he has success,
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  Speaker 3: I'll bet you three or four retired quarterbacks are like.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get back in shape. I miss it.
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  Speaker 3: I missed the guys, I missed the clubhouse, I missed
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  Speaker 3: the action. I'm gonna I'm gonna give this a shot.
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  Speaker 3: Philip just motivated me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Well, I mean the idea of missing it. I think
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  Speaker 9: every athlete goes through. But whatever it takes for a
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  Speaker 9: Tom Brady to eventually hang it up, even Philip rivers.
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  Speaker 9: I mean his last year he had went eleven and
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  Speaker 9: five with the coach, went to the playoffs. There was
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  Speaker 9: there's something where was like, I just Dovid do this.
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  Speaker 3: It was Covid you didn't want to do he was
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  Speaker 3: thinking about retirement anyway.
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  Speaker 2: He was like, well, I'm not doing this. I'm just
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  Speaker 2: gonna go hang it up.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, well that was twenty twenty. Wasn't that the year
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  Speaker 9: they played? Wasn't that the COVID year anyway? I mean,
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  Speaker 9: he's he's Eventually everybody's like, Okay, I've done enough. I
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  Speaker 9: made my money. It hurts too much. I don't want
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  Speaker 9: to be singularly focused. I have fifteen kids I want
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  Speaker 9: to spend some time with, and so I'm with you.
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  Speaker 9: I think that there's a lot of guys that might
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  Speaker 9: get a little bit intrigued by the idea of going
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  Speaker 9: back there if they didn't leave because the game said,
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  Speaker 9: you need to retire, you're no longer any good.
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  Speaker 3: We Number fifteen of the National Football League season got
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  Speaker 3: started last night Thursday Night Football in Tampa, Florida, where
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  Speaker 3: the Falcons shocked the Buccaneers by a final score of
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  Speaker 3: twenty nine to twenty eight. It knocked the Buccaneers out
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  Speaker 3: of first place, and it put Todd Bulls in a
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  Speaker 3: really terrible mood.
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  Speaker 2: You tell them in locker forgiven it.
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  Speaker 11: It's inexcusable. You don't make excuses. You gotta care enough
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  Speaker 11: where it hurts. You gotta care enough where it hurts.
• 15:41
  Speaker 11: It got to mean something to you. It's more than
• 15:43
  Speaker 11: a job, it's your livelihood. How well do you know
• 15:46
  Speaker 11: your job? How well can you do your job?
• 15:48
  Speaker 7: Well?
• 15:48
  Speaker 11: You can't sugarcoat that. It was inexcusable and there's no
• 15:53
  Speaker 11: for it. It's for no excuse for it. That's what
• 15:55
  Speaker 11: you're telling them in a lot looking in the mirror.
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: Wow, I was so nervous that I missed.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: One I have.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: I've never heard Todd Bowles cuss once. I just heard
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: him cuss a thousand times in twenty seconds.
• 16:09
  Speaker 9: I don't think he's very happy when your team is
• 16:13
  Speaker 9: on the edge of you know, their division, you know,
• 16:16
  Speaker 9: top of their division and fighting for a playoff spot,
• 16:19
  Speaker 9: and you cough up a fourteen point fourth quarter lead
• 16:23
  Speaker 9: against the.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Bad team an arrival. Yeah, not at home? Yeah he was.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: He was not happy.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Nope, I say, Kyle Pitts had a career, night boy.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: You picked a bad week to face Kyle Pitts in
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: Fantasy football playoffs. Eleven catches, one hundred and sixty six
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: yards and three touchdowns for the former top ten pick
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: tied end for the Atlanta Falcons, so twenty nine to
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: twenty eight. The final score that scars and they still
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: got a chance to still win the division. Hopefully, Todd
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Bowles pottymouth grant. We'll get into them, because Carolina is
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: not going to run away with this thing, that's for sure.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: This Sunday great lineup. Just some of the highlighted games.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Buffalo at New England earlier in the afternoon, Detroit at
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: the Rams, Packers at Broncos, and then Sunday night, not
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: a very good game, Vikings at Dallas taking on the Cowboys.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: College football. It is Army Navy Week and I want
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: ah recruit.
• 17:25
  Speaker 9: I'm picturing that song playing over just one of those
• 17:29
  Speaker 9: kind of square gray bullhorn speakers while he was doing
• 17:34
  Speaker 9: the Army crowl Yes this morning.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: That it is just one speakers sounds bad, but they're
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: singing it. That's his real dark secret.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: He and all of his Army buddies hated their time
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: so much that they sing in the Navy. They dress
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: up as the village people and sing in the Navy
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: every chance to think. When they get together, Greg and
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Jess are in Baltimore. They're gonna have a show today
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: from noon to three, so make sure you check it out.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Greg just absolutely loves.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: This game, this weekend, this experience, and they're going to
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: do a great show today, specialty show from noon to three.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Heisman Trophy will be rewarded at four o'clock on Saturday,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: So right after Army Navy, you've got the Heisman. Fernando
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Mendoza is expected to win it, but Diego pave Up
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: might actually have a chance, the Vanderbilt quarterback of pulling
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: this thing off. And then the first ball game will
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: be played tomorrow and it involves the Huskies. Huskies versus
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Boise State to kick off bowl season. It is the
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: La Bowl at five o'clock. College football. We can't get
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: out of the college football world without updating you on
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: Sharon Moore. Earlier this week, scandal hit ann Arbor.
• 18:44
  Speaker 12: Former University of Michigan football coach Sharone Moore. He is
• 18:47
  Speaker 12: expected in court today and he was arrested hours after
• 18:51
  Speaker 12: the school fired him this week for what it says
• 18:54
  Speaker 12: was an improper relationship with a staff member.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: And this morning new Emergency.
• 18:59
  Speaker 12: Dispatch audio sheds light on the details of Moore's arrest
• 19:03
  Speaker 12: and Muse Nation's Ryan Bass with us now. So Ryan,
• 19:06
  Speaker 12: good morning. What did we learn from these recordings? A
• 19:10
  Speaker 12: huge story.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Here, Kelly.
• 19:12
  Speaker 8: I'll tell you this dispatch audio is quite unsettling, and
• 19:15
  Speaker 8: it paints a real time picture of what police say
• 19:18
  Speaker 8: is the alleged assault that happened just hours before Moore
• 19:22
  Speaker 8: was arrested. Now, it's a shocking fall from grace from
• 19:25
  Speaker 8: a once rising star in the sport of college football.
• 19:28
  Speaker 8: ESPN's Pete Famil reporting that the situation had been percolating
• 19:32
  Speaker 8: for weeks, and then Moore had actually been acting strange,
• 19:35
  Speaker 8: even berating some assistance in the days leading up to
• 19:38
  Speaker 8: his firing. Nowhere yet on the timing of his arraignment today, Kelly,
• 19:41
  Speaker 8: But obviously that audio it's pretty unsettling when you listen
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: to it, and so we'll find out more today and
• 19:48
  Speaker 8: see if Moore actually ends up policing a statement as well.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: What they're saying is it was the worst kept secret
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: on campus. Everybody had known it for a long time.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: What was going on.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Caitlin de Boor has shot down any and all possibility
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: of taking this job, and of course, we one hundred
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: percent always believe Calin de Bore he.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Would never leave.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Never.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Jedfish's name has also been mentioned prominently. Unless I missed it,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: I don't think Jed's reacted to this and he's not.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: He's not entitled to. I hope that it's Jed's like
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: not again. I don't want to talk about this anymore.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: But who knows for what it's worth. Michigan is intending
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: to make a great hire. That was their statement yesterday,
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: as opposed to we're gonna really blow this as for more,
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: he remains in custody for an aggravated assault charge. He
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: is expected to have his day in court today. College basketball,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: you dub will play tomorrow. They're coming off their biggest
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: win of the Sprinkle era.
• 20:44
  Speaker 13: Nice won over Peterson. It's short in USC is undefeated
• 20:49
  Speaker 13: no longer. The Huskies rip off the second biggest comeback
• 20:56
  Speaker 13: in Washington basketball history from eighteen down to an eight
• 21:00
  Speaker 13: point winner in the entertainment capital of the world, Washington
• 21:04
  Speaker 13: eighty four, twenty fourth rank, USC seventy six.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Our friend Tony Castrick own calling it out there. Huge
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: win for the Fighting Sprinkles. At six and three, The
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Dogs set to host Southern Utah tomorrow at three. The
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Zags are going to host UCLA at eight thirty tomorrow.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Coogs will be in action Sunday at four point thirty
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: against USC. They can they can't beat the Huskies, So
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: what makes them think they can be the coops?
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Uh, Kraken and Mammoth are going to be taking the
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: ice here tonight. The Kraken coming off their biggest win
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: of the year, a three two comeback win in overtime
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: over LA.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Can they turn it into momentum?
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Seattle at Utah tonight at six o'clock, And this will
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: mark the first time the Kraken had faced Utah since
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: they were named.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: You have a great name.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: You must kill your name before he kills you.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Oh jeez, that seems extreme aggressive. Yeah.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the first time that we faced them
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: as the Mammoth, is it not?
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: I believe so. I think they got named before the
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: start of this this season.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I love the name. By the way, love
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: the name Mammoth.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: That's a good one.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's to night at six o'clock.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: And if you want to check out the latest episode
• 22:16
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• 22:20
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• 22:22
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• 22:24
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• 22:27
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  Speaker 2: Now, Mike Congrin with Chuck and Buck.
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  Speaker 3: If you run your Friday errands with us and you're
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: sitting here wondering, oh my gosh, where did I lose
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: an hour?
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Why is coach? Is it nine to thirty already? I'm
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: supposed to be at the you know, the.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Bagel shop by now, well, guess what it's on the
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: eight thirty coach coming on a little early.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: So sorry to.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Throw you off your game out there. Yeah, but yeah,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: your clock's fine. It is eight thirty. Coaches just coming
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: on early.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Today. That's nice. I like having eight thirty coome onrning coach.
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: Good morning, guys. No, I'm sorry, Yeah, I have to
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: do it a little earlier today, and I apologize. Don't apologize,
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: Thanks for thanks for squeezing me in.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, don't apologize. I'm just telling Bucket. I kind of
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: like having coach on at eight thirty on Friday. I
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: think I might want to do this permanently, force you
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: to get up an hour earlier every week.
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: Let's not get carried away. I think I think I
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: think one's one's good.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: All right, you're gonna have to tell me what you
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: think of this Philip Rivers story. I mean, I seem
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: to be the most extreme person at the station, thinking
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: that he can't possibly have success on Sunday. You tell me,
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: you know quarterbacks better than anyone five years removed from
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: the game, forty four years old, two practices his How
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: on Earth is he going to have a chance of
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: being successful Sunday?
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Coach?
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: You know, I kind of agree with you, Chuck. I
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: think it's going to be really hard, particularly against the Seahawks.
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: But you have a great pass rush, great defense. Excuse me,
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: be but if anyone could do it. If anyone ever
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: could do this, which I'm doubtful. He's the guy now
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: I've known him a little bit over the years, and
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: is he quite possibly could do something like this, But
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: it is a long shot. You know, he's at his
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: age and he hasn't been hit in a long time.
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: And you know, now, the one thing they have going
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: for them, I have. They have a really good rushing attack.
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: And so if he does play, I don't think as
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: it come out that he's going to start.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: It has not officially come out, but most people seem
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: to think that's what's going to happen.
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I would think so too. And if he does play,
• 25:23
  Speaker 7: then you're going to see an offense that's pretty controlled.
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: Hopefully their defense plays well and then they run the
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: ball a lot. And so I'm sure Mike mcconald knows
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: that better than anybody. But I'm kind of with you.
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: I just pray, you know, he's a good guy, he
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: really is, and the and I just hope he doesn't
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: get hurt.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. I hope he doesn't get hurt
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 25:44
  Speaker 9: And it's far fetched, er a long shot as how
• 25:47
  Speaker 9: you put it, that he's going to be able to
• 25:49
  Speaker 9: go out there and do it, not just because he's
• 25:50
  Speaker 9: been off for four and a half years, but because
• 25:53
  Speaker 9: he's going against the Seahawks defense and it's going to
• 25:55
  Speaker 9: be different. But I would I'm curious, what do you
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: think are the ling like benefits if somebody plays seventeen
• 26:03
  Speaker 9: years in the NFL as a quarterback. Obviously, the you're older,
• 26:06
  Speaker 9: you're going to be more fragile. You're not going to
• 26:08
  Speaker 9: be quicker at forty four than you were you know,
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: a few years ago or definitely a decade or so ago.
• 26:13
  Speaker 9: But I am curious, like, what are the lingering effects
• 26:16
  Speaker 9: that you just know if you if you have this
• 26:19
  Speaker 9: idea of Okay, I can play this rookie that maybe
• 26:22
  Speaker 9: has hobbled, or I can bring in this guy with
• 26:24
  Speaker 9: all this experience, what is it that they bring to
• 26:26
  Speaker 9: the table besides just experience, What do you know is
• 26:29
  Speaker 9: still going to play in today's game if he can
• 26:32
  Speaker 9: not get crushed and hurt, Well, I think.
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: He's going to do the right thing. He's going to
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: make good decisions. Unlike you know, we saw we saw
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: a young guy play for Minnesota and it just was
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: a disaster. And so he's going to you're going to
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: see good decisions if he plays, but the fact that
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: he has been out five years that'll factor into that
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: just a little bit in my opinion. And then physically,
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: you know, if they saw in practice or they've seen
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: him throw and do some things that allow him or
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: allow them to make the decision to start him, then
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: you know, I guess he's gonna you know, they feel
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: he can be a better choice. But oh gosh, buck,
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: you know it's a I just hell, it'll be interesting
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: to see. It'll be really an interesting story.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Would you think that you would have to hit him
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: before he plays on Sunday? I mean, ever since the
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: invention of the red jersey, I don't think anyone, any
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: quarterback at any level has been tackled in practice, high school,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: college or pro. But considering what the men he's going
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: up against the speed of the game, that there's no
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: chance that he can remember five years removed, hasn't had
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: a collision in those five years. Would you have to say, Philip,
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: we're gonna crash test dummy this thing. I need you
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: to take a hit before Sunday. I don't want your
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: first hit to be on Sunday. Would you be contempl that.
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: No. No, But I I think if I if coach
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: had mentioned that to him, listen, before you sign your
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: contract to this is how we're going to do it,
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: he'd go, Then I'm not signing it, you know, I
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: don't don't don't hit me before the game. I'll handle
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: it right, I'll do it. I'll handle it right in
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: the game. Don't worry. But that's the concern everyone, most
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: people have that know the game, that how is he
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: going to do this? How is he going to react?
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: And like I said, if anybody could handle it, he
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: can yea, But that I think it's a long shot.
• 28:33
  Speaker 9: Guys, I'm with you. I I mean, this is a
• 28:36
  Speaker 9: game that you would think now. I mean, when he played,
• 28:39
  Speaker 9: he had Ladanian Tomlinson, and he's he's had good running
• 28:43
  Speaker 9: backs before and so and yet when he was in
• 28:45
  Speaker 9: his prime, you couldn't just stack the box and say, oh,
• 28:48
  Speaker 9: we're gonna we're not gonna worry about him beating us.
• 28:50
  Speaker 9: But I would think that this week would be different.
• 28:53
  Speaker 9: I would think that they're like Jonathan Taylor were stacking
• 28:55
  Speaker 9: the box. He's not doing anything against us, We're going
• 28:58
  Speaker 9: to contain him. And yet is there still a fear
• 29:01
  Speaker 9: of that might be playing into his hand of allowing
• 29:05
  Speaker 9: him to do uh more, is it one of those
• 29:08
  Speaker 9: sit back and just don't let them move down the
• 29:10
  Speaker 9: field on you?
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: I think the approach would be stopped to run first,
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: because they they are really good at running ball, and
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: stop the run first, and then we'll just play defense
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: with Philip our normal thing, and we'll get to the
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: quarterback and we can do that. But our emphasis would
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: be to stop the run, force him, force them to
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: throw the ball, force them to get first down throwing
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: the ball. That has to be their approach in my opinion.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd put eleven in the box. Just put everybody
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: in the box.
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but also, you know what, but you know you
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: also put out your Christmas tree early. So let's start.
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: Let's think of good let's think of good decisions.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, that's fair.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Uh well, he's I hate to make this whole thing
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: about Philip Rivers, but I think it's.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: The whole story here.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Did he ever, he's famous for talking trash without cussing.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Did he ever trash talk to you over there on
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: the sidelines.
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: No. No. My My thing with my thing with Philip
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: is that Norm Chow was his college coach and phoned
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: me and said, I've got a young quarterback, professional quarterback.
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: He's really good, but he delivers the ball almost side armim.
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: It's a really funny delivery. I'm going to send you
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: some film. Tell me what you think. So I said,
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: I saw the film when he was young, and I said,
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: you know, he's really good. But it's been my experience
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: if you try and change the guy's motion, it doesn't work.
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: So if he's accurate and his timing's good, don't change anything.
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: And I don't and Norman they did, They didn't, and
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: Philip played his whole career that way. If you're watching
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: long film, he delivers the ball just a little differently,
• 30:54
  Speaker 7: but it works. It worked for a long time.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Are you surprised that it worked.
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: A little bit. Yeah, yeah, because you know, the ball's lower,
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: it comes off lower. You would think there'd be a
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: lot of black block passes and tip balls and stuff
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: like that. But you know, he was really good for
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: a long time.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's tough, he's smart, accurate, Yeah, he's he was
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: a football player. There's no question about that. Uh, well,
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: it should be interesting. Can't wait to recap it with you.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: On Monday morning. So thank you, enjoy your weekend, and
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: we'll talk to you Monday.
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah. Can I go back to bed now, can man? Sure?
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Please?
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: All right, I'll good. I'll see him Monday.
• 31:36
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• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Millan will be joining us at nine. But Heisman Trophy
• 32:01
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  Speaker 2: Not a bass catalog of Heisman music.
• 32:20
  Speaker 14: I thought maybe there was like a their theme song,
• 32:22
  Speaker 14: though I tried to find that, but it's just a
• 32:23
  Speaker 14: bunch of rappers who have made Heisman songs.
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  Speaker 2: Hmmm.
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: No.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: I was like, I'm not interested in that.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Beach Boys didn't put together a Heisman song.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: That I would have listened to one of their big hits.
• 32:35
  Speaker 7: Me.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: I wish they could be husband winners.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: That would be a better one.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I don't know.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Huey Lewis had to have made I would think he
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: wrote every song, right, he had to have made a
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: road a Heisman song at some point if there is one,
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Hugh he.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Wrote it, yeah, obviously and singing it and did the background.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, Uh, Hugh.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Mellon's gonna join us at nine o'clock with x's and o's.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: But the Heisman Trophy is gonna be handed out tomorrow.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: The expectation is that it's going to be Indiana's Fernando Mendoza.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: We've been talking about him all year long in this
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: segment because this is when we usually do our Big
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Ten preview, and so this is kind of our version
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: of a Big Ten preview.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Eight forty five on Fridays.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Is a Big Ten quarterback him or Julian say I'm
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: gonna win the Heisman this year?
• 33:19
  Speaker 9: I would think, I mean, he's a huge favorite to
• 33:21
  Speaker 9: win it, and understandably so. That Diego Pavia is interesting
• 33:25
  Speaker 9: what he does. I mean, it's most valuable to their team.
• 33:28
  Speaker 9: I mean, I think the most valuable player for Indiana
• 33:32
  Speaker 9: is Signetti the coach. Oh, I mean he obviously is
• 33:37
  Speaker 9: pretty amazing. The Hesman though, no he can't win it,
• 33:40
  Speaker 9: and yet the Diego Pavia guy. I mean, what he
• 33:44
  Speaker 9: does for his team is unbelievable, but I would think
• 33:47
  Speaker 9: it's going to be for Nando.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Mendoza and then I'm.
• 33:50
  Speaker 9: All for it because I can't wait to hear his
• 33:52
  Speaker 9: horrendous interview after US because it's bad. It's not just
• 33:58
  Speaker 9: the bad one after the Big Ten Championship game. I
• 34:00
  Speaker 9: watched him do like a exposit, like a sit down
• 34:03
  Speaker 9: interview before, like a week before, and I'm just like,
• 34:08
  Speaker 9: I think it's gross.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: I think he's going to be the number one pick
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: in the draft.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's going to throw off scouts and
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: general managers from taking him number one because I think
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: it's going to be a pretty weak quarterback draft this year,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: but it will be discussed.
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: Well.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: It's it's like, I mean, like a leader.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, his teammates seem to love him, but like
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: grown men in a locker room that hear that kind
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: of speech, What do you think?
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I mean? Russell Wilson is pretty big dork too, and
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: he was good when he was here.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: Smooth dork, Like his interviews were smooth Mendoza's was like.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: It's true team god glue stare into the camera like, dude,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: have you never done this before? Well, I'm sure he has, because,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: like I said, I've seen two of them just as
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: of recently. They're both just really not good.
• 35:03
  Speaker 9: He's not good at nice And yes, you can end
• 35:07
  Speaker 9: up leading guys, you just have to be able to perform.
• 35:10
  Speaker 9: You're not going to be the one that they're asking
• 35:12
  Speaker 9: to go kick it afterwards, which is fine, stay in
• 35:14
  Speaker 9: your playbook.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: I think there was a reason that he wanted his
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: like linebacker buddy to like speak because that guy was great. Yeah,
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: the one that stepped in and led the song at
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: the end of the National Championship. Well, I don't think
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: the Heisman voters are going to hold his interview.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Skills against them likely, So.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: I do think he's going to win, But I don't
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: know if I would encourage people to bet money on it,
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: because I think there is a chance, and a pretty
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: sound one, that Diego Pavia ends up stealing this thing
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: from him. I mean, nine hundred and fifty voters for
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: this thing. But I'll just tell you, leading up to Heisman,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: maybe people are just bored with the Fernando Mendoza, you know,
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: favorite to win the Heisman conversation. But the guys that
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: I've been hearing interviewed and have interviewed, like Rick new Isil,
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: they seem to be leaning toward thinking Pavia should be
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: the Heisman Trophy winner.
• 36:10
  Speaker 14: I like that there's some you know, it's not just
• 36:13
  Speaker 14: a runaway, because otherwise it just feels also like why
• 36:16
  Speaker 14: even bother inviting the other guys just to sit there
• 36:18
  Speaker 14: when there's when they have no chance.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Sometimes I feel like that's what happens, and it seems silly.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: This year, I don't feel like that's the case exactly.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I think there is a chance.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: When's the last time we got surprised by a Heisman
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Trophy winner announcement?
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: I don't even remember.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: I don't either. I mean, maybe I'm just prisoner of
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: the moment, but I don't even remember the last time
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: I was surprised by a Heisman trophy announcement.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: So maybe this would maybe we're gonna get one on Saturday.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't rule it out.
• 36:45
  Speaker 9: I wouldn't rule it out either, And I mean, for
• 36:47
  Speaker 9: what it's worth, a lot of times of the dual
• 36:49
  Speaker 9: threat quarterback is like ends up getting the NOD and
• 36:52
  Speaker 9: that diego Pavia. Like the last game, if it's if
• 36:55
  Speaker 9: they were if it was heads up, and you're like, oh,
• 36:58
  Speaker 9: well he went and won the Big Ten in Ohio State.
• 37:00
  Speaker 9: That's impressive. Pavia through for two sixty eight and ran
• 37:04
  Speaker 9: for one sixty five in his last game against Tennessee
• 37:07
  Speaker 9: not a bad team.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Well, Mendoza won the Big Ten title over the number
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: one ranked team in the country and made the Heisman throw,
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: So he left a pretty good last impression too.
• 37:16
  Speaker 9: I'm just saying I think that there's more of a
• 37:18
  Speaker 9: conversation than typical. Typically at this point, a lot of
• 37:21
  Speaker 9: times you just have kind of a clear cut winner,
• 37:23
  Speaker 9: and I almost know for certain that everybody went that direction.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's a chance at an upset. And
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: I'll say another factor in there being a chance of
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: an upset, people do get bored if there's been a
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: long time favorite, right, they do like, yeah, because they
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: want to be the first person that says something other
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: than Fernando Mendoz as my Heisman pick. And so again,
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: nine hundred and fifty voters, how many of them potentially
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: might vote for Pavia just because Mendoza has been the
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: favorite for so long and they wanted to do something
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: differently at the midnight hour. There's a chance he could
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: snag this thing away. I don't think there's any chance,
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Julian saying wins and nor should he fifth best player
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: on his team for goodness sake. But and I don't
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: think Jeremiah Loves got a chance either. They'll show up,
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: they'll go through the pomp and circumstance, have their families
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: interviewed and all that stuff. But I do believe Diego
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Pavi has got a reason to be there. He just
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: might snag this thing away from Fernando Mendoza. That would
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: be shocking. It would be shocking, even though even though
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: I'm preparing people for it, it still would be shocking
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: to see that happen at the last second.
• 38:37
  Speaker 9: I mean, I think that there's maybe not an argument.
• 38:40
  Speaker 9: I think he probably will win, and it probably is
• 38:42
  Speaker 9: the right choice, just taking Indiana to where they're at
• 38:45
  Speaker 9: right now, the number one team in the nation. And
• 38:47
  Speaker 9: it's not it's not in spite of him, Like if
• 38:49
  Speaker 9: Julian saying, if you were if they were still the
• 38:51
  Speaker 9: number one team, you would be like and it's because
• 38:53
  Speaker 9: of Julian saying, I mean it's because of him and
• 38:55
  Speaker 9: leading the team and doing what he's done. And yet
• 38:58
  Speaker 9: I mean, there's gonna be some people that it will
• 39:00
  Speaker 9: vote for the love Kid because he pretty amazing. Now,
• 39:03
  Speaker 9: typically running backs just don't get it anymore, but we
• 39:05
  Speaker 9: did just come off a year where a dual threat
• 39:07
  Speaker 9: guy want it, and so I don't know a dual threat.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a couple people will vote for him,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: but I don't think he's going to come anywhere close.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think he will either. That's just the nature
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: of the award nowadays. So I'm with you. I think
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: that he's gonna win, but I wouldn't be surprised if
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: it went another direction.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: All right, Coming up next, you Mellon's gonna join us
• 39:24
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