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Lunch with the Clydesdale - What is Elite Fitness · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  Tyler Watkins, you son of a...
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  I love the chase and the hunt and
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  I set the pace when I'm running.
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  I always take what I want and I
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  always give it one hundred.
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  Don't need a bank, no I'm funded.
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  Play the game like it's nothing.
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  I'm always thankful for something.
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  Don't take for granted, stay humble.
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  Now wake up!
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  It's time to look at the enemy.
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  Look in the mirror if he is no
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  friend to me.
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  It's not working out,
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  maybe it's the chemistry.
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  It's time to break up so I can
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  make a better me.
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  It's lunch time!
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  What's going on, everybody?
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  It's Lunch with the Clydesdale,
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  not made from fish bones and,
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  and no melatonin and no melatonin,
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  which is a big deal.
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  So,
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  and next week we're going to have a
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  great big black Friday deal.
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  So
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  With that, Tyler Watkins.
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  Last night, I'm going to sleep.
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  I put on a spin every Wednesday night
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  as I'm getting ready for bed.
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  And all of a sudden, Brian Spin says,
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  they're talking about the
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  professionalization of the sport and that
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  there are people out there that think that
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  coverage should be for more than the top
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  five athletes.
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  I've actually said that statement.
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  I think we're getting there anyway just
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  because the depth of the field has gone
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  beyond the top five.
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  Absolutely.
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  Especially on the men's side where we're
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  getting past that,
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  and that means we're developing as a
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  professionalized sport a little bit.
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  But Spinn said that when people pay
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  attention beyond the top five,
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  they get like sixteen views.
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  And Watkins came in and said, sorry,
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  Scott.
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  Well, I'd just like him to know,
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  this little lunch show,
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  it started out as just like a thing
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  to get better by myself online.
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  It's turned into we're getting about a
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  hundred views every live broadcast.
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  And we add a couple hundred more in
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  the twenty-four hours after that.
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  I have more than sixteen members on the
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  channel.
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  Just saying.
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  So sorry, not sorry.
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  I know I'm not spinning seven numbers yet.
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  It's fine.
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  I'm cool with my life.
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  You know what?
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  That's that's he shouldn't even said your
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  name.
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  He'd have been better off saying Brian.
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  I mean,
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  I'm not here to call people out.
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  I'm just defending my chat because my chat
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  comes hard.
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  Yeah.
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  Like we have good conversations.
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  I'm defending the chat.
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  Well, dude,
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  defending the chat and to get back to
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  the original point.
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  Like Joseph said, sometimes it's quality,
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  not quantity.
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  Yeah.
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  And you have always focused on not just
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  the top five because you want to get
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  everybody's story because everybody has
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  one.
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  Yeah, to me,
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  if you can find the story,
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  that's what's interesting.
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  I don't think people dig in enough
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  sometimes to find the stories.
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  Not at all.
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  Like Colton the pig farmer was a story
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  before he was a top five athlete.
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  A hundred percent.
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  You know?
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  You had mullet Colton on before anybody
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  else did.
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  The chat knows more than Watkins.
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  Anyway,
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  then he had another comment that while I'm
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  throwing change back at him.
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  He poked it to Tyler.
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  They were talking about how the current
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  campaigns showed an older woman in the
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  campaign doing CrossFit.
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  And he said, that's not elite fitness.
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  Yes, it is.
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  Elite fitness is dependent on the person.
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  What I'm asking for in my elite fitness
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  is the best possible fitness you can give
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  me, right?
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  Whatever that may be.
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  And I would swear a hundred percent that
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  I get the most elite fitness in a
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  CrossFit gym,
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  whether I'm able to do a muscle up
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  or whether I'm doing a ring row.
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  I don't get that elite fitness at twenty
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  four hour fitness.
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  I don't get it at crunch fitness.
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  I don't get it at planet fitness.
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  Right.
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  Elite fitness is population.
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  Exactly.
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  Yes.
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  What I what I'm paying for is for
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  me to get.
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  the elite fitness,
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  the best that I can get.
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  And it gives me the goals to move
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  up those ranks,
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  to become more elite as I go.
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  Absolutely.
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  And that's what CrossFit gives you.
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  Paraphrasing here,
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  but I remember somebody saying that the
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  needs of Olympic athletes and grandmothers
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  vary by degree, not kind.
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  Everybody needs to be able to squat.
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  Everybody needs to be able to,
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  and your population and your gym is going
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  to be dependent on
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  is their elite levels of fitness is going
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  to be dependent on the population of your
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  gym.
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  You're going to have some fire breathers
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  that can do all kinds of crazy stuff.
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  They are going to be the elite at
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  your place.
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  You're going to have,
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  we got a three-year-old Miss Claudia who
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  is also elite because she can do things
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  that other eighty-three-year-olds cannot
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  do and won't do.
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  And she walked through the door.
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  Absolutely.
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  And she asked for help.
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  Oh, look, look at the man himself.
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  I disagree.
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  I disagree, Mr. Watkins.
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  I believe that for her, that was elite.
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  And she is... That said,
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  I know what Tyler's getting at.
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  I also think you must consider all seven
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  to eight-year-old women.
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  So... But...
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  My perspective is I'm buying elite
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  fitness.
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  When I buy a membership to a CrossFit
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  box,
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  I am buying elite fitness to be trained
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  in elite fitness.
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  When I pay a membership to Planet Fitness,
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  I'm getting the ten dollar a month version
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  of fitness.
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  You're getting access to a room.
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  I'm not getting any extras.
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  I'm just walking and figuring it out on
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  my own.
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  You're getting access to a room that has
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  a bunch of Nautilus machines for all
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  intents and purposes.
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  And I know those are two extremes, right?
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  Those are,
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  and there's stuff in the middle, but.
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  Sure there is,
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  but there's not a whole lot of stuff
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  in the middle.
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  The stuff in the middle is stuff that
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  is imitating what we do.
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  The stuff in the middle, in my opinion,
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  is Orange Theory, is F-四ty-five,
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  is whatever those, you know,
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  hit classes are and all that other stuff.
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  I also was not a massive fan of
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  a reel like that unless they were trying
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  to stir the pot.
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  Elite for me is bogus.
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  Elite is elite.
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  Don't make it cheap.
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  There's elite fitness.
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  So many people from coming into your gym.
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  And I thought I've,
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  I understand what he's trying.
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  I think I say I understand.
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  I think I understand what he's trying to
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  say.
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  I think that's an elitist attitude.
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  Yes,
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  because now you're looking at if you're
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  not Jason Hopper, then you're not elite.
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  That's not necessarily true, bro,
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  because there's all kinds of levels in
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  between there.
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  He is the top of the top of
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  the top of the sphere.
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  One hundred percent.
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  He's the current game champion,
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  just like he is.
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  But to say that people who are in
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  their seventy to eighty eight age group
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  that are coming in and doing what ninety
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  nine percent of their population is not
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  doing or can't do because they won't step
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  in the door and calling them not elite
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  for their age group.
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  That's not the same thing.
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  David Hippenstiel is elite at everything
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  except putting his arms overhead.
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  But you're talking another games champion.
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  I'm talking about I'm a guy who walked
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  into a gym over five hundred pounds and
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  I got to a point where I could
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  do body weight pull ups.
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  Like to me, that was elite fitness.
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  I was learning elite fitness.
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  Was I an elite athlete?
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  No,
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  but I was learning elite fitness and I
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  was learning the steps along the way to
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  get better and better and better.
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  And that's the forging part.
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  The forging part is teaching me what I
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  needed to do both in the gym and
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  outside the gym to get better and better
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  and become more elite.
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  within the confines of your space.
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  Again, I think we're, now we're,
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  now we're arguing apples and oranges.
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  What is elite fitness?
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  Not everybody in the gym may be an
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  elite athlete,
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  but they're doing elite fitness because
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  they're taking the steps to get better and
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  better and learning.
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  Yeah, I can understand what he's saying,
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  but at the same time,
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  there's a gray area there because, again,
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  a PVC pipeline is definitely not elite,
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  but that is a step towards getting to
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  where you need to be.
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  Everybody starts with a PVC pipe or
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  should.
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  Let me do this.
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  I'm about to hold on for a second
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  here.
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  Old Mike DeVito,
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  I say this when it comes to affiliate,
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  I've never liked program for the best,
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  scale for the rest.
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  Instead,
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  program for the middle range and scale up
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  for the more elite.
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  Negative.
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  Yeah, I don't either.
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  That's not a thing, brother.
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  Love you to death?
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  No.
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  You program for the best people there,
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  and then everybody else can do a version
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  of it.
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  Easy peasy.
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  Easy peasy.
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  It's way easier that way.
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  Here's why.
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  If I go into the gym this afternoon
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  and I'm looking at it and it's,
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  you know,
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  there's pull-ups and there's thrusters and
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  there's double unders or whatever the case
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  may be.
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  And I go, well,
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  that's going to be super easy.
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  I need, I need more.
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  No, you do not.
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  We need to put the highest level on
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  there.
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  Look at that and go,
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  can I do that?
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  Yeah, I think I can handle that.
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  Or can I do that?
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  Nope, I probably need to scale down some.
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  But this is the highest level we got.
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  This is what we're doing.
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  And it sets a goal for where you
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  want to get to.
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  A hundred percent.
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  A hundred percent.
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  You're inviting way too much gray area in
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  there.
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  You're inviting way too much people who,
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  well, I think I should be doing more.
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  No, you shouldn't be.
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  This is what the standard is for this
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  workout.
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  If you can do this, fantastic.
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  If you think you need to scale up,
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  go faster.
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  Plain and simple.
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  Hiller says, yes, correct, Corey,
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  but as a standalone reel,
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  it's only going to stir to the pot.
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  I don't disagree with that either.
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  I do not like that there's a trend
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  I just noticed on Instagram where people
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  are mislabeling things intentionally to
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  get more clicks,
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  to get more people on it.
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  I saw one that said it had an
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  actor talking about a role.
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  Oh, it had Kurt Russell
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  Talking about, I forget what role it was,
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  but it had him labeled as somebody else.
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  Specifically to get people to click on it
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  and to come and go,
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  that's not Kurt Russell.
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  Or that's not whoever it was.
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  And that kind of shit is not,
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  I don't like that at all.
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  Like, put it out.
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  It's specifically, it's clickbait.
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  It's hardcore clickbait because now you're
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  almost forcing people to go in and make
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  a comment because people aren't going to
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  be able to control themselves,
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  which is obvious if you go into that
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  comment section.
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  It's the first thing people say.
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  Oh, they said it was Michael Douglas.
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  That's not Michael Douglas.
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  That's not Michael Douglas.
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  Like the first seven comments,
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  something along those lines.
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  And so I understand what Hiller's saying
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  from the real perspective.
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  Oh, forging elite fitness.
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  Well,
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  here's a sixty five year old lady with
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  a PVC pipe.
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  Well, that's not elite fitness.
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  Okay,
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  now people are going to go on there
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  and engage and say, that's not it.
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  But it needs to be explained that that
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  is the process of forging the elite
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  fitness.
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  That may be step one when you walk
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  in the door to get the shoulder mobility
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  to actually put a barbell over your head,
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  right?
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  In a real, you can't really explain that.
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  fergie show um scott knows that the
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  masters fifty five plus open was
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  programmed for scaled athletes and most of
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  us were very upset with hq for lowering
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  the bar i said it when it was
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  going on i was able to do those
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  workouts at a level that i should not
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  have been able to do them at with
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  my current fitness level and it was just
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  way too easy for fifty five plus what
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  am i training for darren
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  Yeah.
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  But my training partner is fifty five plus
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  and is an absolute animal.
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  And when those when those workouts came
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  out, he was like,
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  this is some of the stupidest shit I've
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  ever seen because it was such a drop
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  off from fifty fifty four to fifty five
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  plus.
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  Like it was it was it didn't make
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  any sense.
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  It was like take it was like put
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  the training wheels back on,
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  put another set on the front.
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  So we got six points of contract on
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  the ground.
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  Make sure everybody's going to be all
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  right.
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  Like.
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  I don't know whose decision that was,
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  but it was a bad one.
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  It was a bad one from that.
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  It's insulting at that point.
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  You are all discounting the journey to
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  elite fitness.
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  You may never get there.
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  I haven't.
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  But being in the fight is the point.
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  Again,
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  I think you're labeling the athlete as
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  elite.
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  I'm not.
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  I'm saying the fitness we are learning is
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  the process of building an elite athlete.
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  Whether...
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  whether you start with a PVC pipe,
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  whether you're doing a barbell overhead,
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  whether it's an empty barbell or ninety
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  five pounds or one hundred thirty five
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  pounds.
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  It's the process of building the elite
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  fitness you are participating in because
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  that is not scaled on the board.
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  That is for the best.
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  You are in it with elite fitness.
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  You may not be the elite athlete yet,
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  but you're in the process of building it.
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  And again,
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  you may never get to that end.
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  You may never reach the end of elite
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  fitness.
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  I never will.
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  I mean, it's only going to be harder,
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  but it's,
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  but at least I'm on that journey somewhere
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  to,
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  to make myself better and better every
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  day.
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  Um, Vicki.
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  Yes.
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  Scott,
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  the real should have been before and after
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  problem solved.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I think Haley just agreed.
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  Like they didn't say that though.
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  They were like, this is it.
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  Yeah.
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  I get,
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  but I guess my interpretation of that is
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  the stuff that these people are doing is
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  elite fitness.
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  It's part of that journey to get to
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  that.
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  And again,
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  a real is never going to have the
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  words enough to explain all that.
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  I will say this open for everybody's
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  interpretation.
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  Right.
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  And I will say this,
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  it did his job in the fact that
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  we're talking about it.
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  And I really didn't think it would take
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  up this much time.
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  No,
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  it's just fifteen minutes of us talking
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  about a reel that I've only seen part
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  of.
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  I didn't even see the whole damn thing.
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  Yeah.
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  Oh, good stuff.
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  Good stuff, good stuff, good stuff.
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  Mike DeVito, I think you both are right.
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  She is on her journey to get there,
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  but it didn't point that out.
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  It only pointed out here is elite fitness.
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  Yeah.
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  leave it to smart-ass Corey to bring it
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  home.
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  I mean... Imagine some rando,
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  non-indoctrined,
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  seeing that and it's off-putting.
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  It could be.
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  I could see his point.
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  It could definitely be misunderstood,
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  for sure.
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  Yeah, easily.
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  And especially, like you said,
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  if somebody has absolutely no idea and is
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  looking at it from the first time,
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  and that's the perspective Hillary was
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  taking on it, right?
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  I know, brother.
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  But you're looking at it for the first
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  time.
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  You have absolutely no idea what this is.
• 18:12
  And you're like,
• 18:13
  this is what somebody calls elite.
• 18:14
  This is an eight-year-old woman with a PVC
• 18:16
  pipe in her hand.
• 18:19
  If I look at my own experience,
• 18:21
  the day I walked into that CrossFit gym,
• 18:23
  I didn't know what CrossFit was.
• 18:25
  I never saw a video.
• 18:26
  I never saw a barbell.
• 18:29
  I never saw a PVC pipe.
• 18:30
  I never saw a muscle-up.
• 18:32
  When the first time Toaster Bar was put
• 18:34
  on the board,
• 18:34
  I had to look it up on YouTube.
• 18:37
  Like literally, like I knew nothing.
• 18:39
  It's only because the guy who owned the
• 18:42
  CrossFit gym was my next door neighbor.
• 18:44
  And he walked me in the door the
• 18:46
  first time to say,
• 18:47
  I want you to try this.
• 18:51
  So like,
• 18:51
  I was lucky enough that I didn't have
• 18:53
  to interpret a real or a commercial or
• 18:56
  a campaign saying, right.
• 18:59
  I was, I was pulled in.
• 19:03
  showed Murph on the board,
• 19:05
  wanted to throw up,
• 19:06
  and if I could have run,
• 19:09
  I would have run as fast as I
• 19:11
  could out of the door.
• 19:13
  Just three, two, one,
• 19:14
  go over that first mile,
• 19:15
  and Scott just runs back to his house.
• 19:18
  But then to be told, hey,
• 19:20
  you can do a version of this just
• 19:22
  like the rest of us,
• 19:24
  and you're going to be sweating,
• 19:25
  and you're going to get a great workout,
• 19:28
  and then we'll talk about it afterwards.
• 19:31
  And that's how I was indoctrined.
• 19:34
  It wasn't through a reel or through.
• 19:37
  And I think that's why a lot of
• 19:39
  stuff is missing the mark now.
• 19:41
  The original way we got people into the
• 19:43
  gym was grassroots.
• 19:47
  It wasn't that people got fired up by
• 19:49
  watching a reel or a commercial.
• 19:54
  Now you do have the handful of people
• 19:55
  you hear.
• 19:56
  I started watching the documentaries and
• 19:59
  it made me interested.
• 20:00
  So I looked up, uh, whatever,
• 20:02
  but the documentaries are an hour long,
• 20:08
  right?
• 20:14
  An experienced coach would never allow
• 20:16
  that.
• 20:16
  Scott,
• 20:16
  did they actually have you do a full
• 20:18
  Murph on day one at
• 20:22
  Jody, no.
• 20:22
  He said,
• 20:24
  you're going to do a version of this
• 20:27
  that you can do and you're going to
• 20:29
  sweat and you're going to feel it and
• 20:30
  you're going to know that you worked hard
• 20:33
  and then we're going to talk about it
• 20:34
  afterwards.
• 20:37
  And actually CrossFit did a documentary on
• 20:39
  me and we talk about that first day
• 20:42
  and I actually redid the version I did
• 20:46
  on the video.
• 20:51
  Murph was not my first workout,
• 20:53
  but Murph was my third week there.
• 20:58
  And I had no idea like how devastating
• 21:00
  it actually could be that, uh,
• 21:05
  that was an interesting time.
• 21:08
  Vicki says, we don't know on each reel,
• 21:10
  what the target is or what they're wanting
• 21:12
  to accomplish with each one,
• 21:14
  either the way they've been approaching
• 21:16
  messaging.
• 21:16
  There seems to be a glimmer of reason
• 21:19
  underneath.
• 21:25
  It took killer to point it out to
• 21:26
  me.
• 21:26
  Like there is no action item on any
• 21:28
  of the stuff that's going out there.
• 21:30
  There is no, what do I do?
• 21:32
  What, how do I get this?
• 21:35
  They seem like movie trailers, right?
• 21:40
  Like it's a bunch of highlight clips of
• 21:43
  people doing cool stuff, sweating,
• 21:45
  breathing hard, good lighting, right?
• 21:47
  It looks like a Michael Bay, uh, uh,
• 21:50
  scene or whatnot, uh,
• 21:52
  But yeah,
• 21:53
  there's no go check out your local
• 21:56
  affiliate.
• 21:57
  Just Forging Elite Fitness.
• 22:00
  Fuck the quick fix.
• 22:03
  Whichever one they got thrown out at the
• 22:08
  time for that particular one, this one.
• 22:10
  Forging Elite Fitness.
• 22:11
  Awesome.
• 22:13
  No further instructions.
• 22:18
  Yeah.
• 22:18
  Well,
• 22:18
  I do want to touch on a couple
• 22:19
  other things before.
• 22:21
  And this has to be a short show
• 22:22
  because I have a one o'clock meeting.
• 22:24
  I tried to get out of it.
• 22:25
  I begged, but they said it was essential.
• 22:29
  So I have to be there at one
• 22:30
  o'clock.
• 22:32
  So we have about fifteen minutes max to
• 22:34
  go.
• 22:34
  Go for it.
• 22:36
  I had to change into work clothes for
• 22:37
  the meeting.
• 22:40
  So stupid.
• 22:43
  It was announced that Austin Hatfield has
• 22:45
  withdrawn from the WFP.
• 22:47
  That's another one.
• 22:49
  I just got a text from Holly.
• 22:51
  You ready?
• 22:52
  Hold on.
• 22:54
  This is my shock face.
• 22:56
  Yeah.
• 23:00
  You mean to tell me since his girlfriend's
• 23:01
  not going and it's three days before
• 23:02
  Christmas, he's not going to Copenhagen?
• 23:06
  Hmm.
• 23:09
  I find that so shockingly hard to believe.
• 23:13
  Um, yeah,
• 23:16
  so there are rumors out there that a
• 23:20
  couple other big names are on the verge
• 23:22
  of making that announcement as well.
• 23:25
  If those are true.
• 23:27
  unless the we talked about yesterday
• 23:32
  they're willing to look at themselves in
• 23:33
  the mirror and say we've got to change
• 23:35
  we've got to pivot i think the nails
• 23:37
  are in the coffin and if they make
• 23:41
  it through copenhagen it will be an
• 23:45
  accomplishment well make it through
• 23:48
  copenhagen with any non uh european
• 23:52
  athletes
• 23:56
  Well,
• 23:56
  their one big selling point is that they
• 23:58
  have the best field.
• 24:02
  Well, as most are now not going,
• 24:07
  they don't have that argument anymore.
• 24:11
  Slightly, just slightly.
• 24:15
  You act like Austin Hadley,
• 24:16
  some fantastic athlete or something like
• 24:18
  that.
• 24:19
  I mean,
• 24:20
  Well, it's Jason Hopper, Austin Hatfield.
• 24:22
  I know, brother.
• 24:23
  And the people that are floating out there
• 24:26
  that are coming next are just as big.
• 24:29
  They're coming.
• 24:30
  They are coming.
• 24:32
  Give them some time.
• 24:33
  They are coming.
• 24:34
  That's a thing that is going to happen.
• 24:36
  Jamie and I were texting this morning,
• 24:38
  totally disagreeing on everything.
• 24:43
  I don't know.
• 24:43
  I think there's a way that if they
• 24:45
  would self-reflect and pivot,
• 24:48
  they could make it.
• 24:50
  And I think I have an idea,
• 24:51
  but I need more time on a show
• 24:52
  to be able to talk about it.
• 24:55
  Or they could just keep throwing money at
• 24:58
  it.
• 24:58
  I mean,
• 24:59
  that seems to be working pretty well so
• 25:01
  far.
• 25:01
  No, it's not working.
• 25:03
  And I think they're realizing that people
• 25:08
  aren't in this just for money.
• 25:12
  Somebody said it the other day,
• 25:13
  and I don't remember what comment I saw
• 25:15
  or where I saw it at,
• 25:16
  but somebody said it's never been about
• 25:17
  the money.
• 25:20
  It's about being crowned the fittest on
• 25:22
  Earth.
• 25:23
  Period.
• 25:25
  Money's nice.
• 25:26
  There can be other entities,
• 25:27
  like Rogue is a popular entity.
• 25:29
  Waterpalooza is a popular entity.
• 25:31
  There's a way to be a successful entity
• 25:33
  in this ecosystem and not be for the
• 25:37
  fittest on Earth.
• 25:40
  It's just,
• 25:40
  are they willing to take the steps to
• 25:42
  get there?
• 25:45
  Legos, baby boy, Legos.
• 25:46
  Yeah.
• 25:46
  Right on.
• 25:53
  Uh, this is what I wanted to share.
• 25:58
  Um,
• 25:59
  so yesterday spin posted this and is this
• 26:06
  the new mayhem team?
• 26:09
  I saw that I skimmed over it and
• 26:11
  then I was trying to,
• 26:12
  cause I wanted to go see who they,
• 26:13
  who those people are.
• 26:15
  And then I got caught up doing something
• 26:18
  else.
• 26:18
  Who are those people?
• 26:20
  can't see it so part of them were
• 26:22
  on another mayhem team um last year that
• 26:26
  finished eleventh um lindsay lane is like
• 26:30
  the newest person on this picture and
• 26:32
  you'll know her from crash um crossfit
• 26:36
  crashed she works out there she's done
• 26:38
  some open announcements um with against
• 26:41
  fee um but what's crazy is my intel
• 26:46
  which i thought was pretty reliable was a
• 26:48
  completely different team than this
• 26:53
  Nope.
• 26:53
  Well, I mean, to be fair.
• 26:55
  Because I thought my intel was pretty
• 26:56
  reliable on this.
• 27:03
  And the resume of the team that I
• 27:06
  heard was better than what this is here.
• 27:11
  So I'm, I don't know, man.
• 27:15
  I'm confused.
• 27:15
  To be fair, it's pretty damn accurate.
• 27:19
  Yeah.
• 27:20
  To be fair,
• 27:20
  Mayhem has like forty three teams at the
• 27:22
  games.
• 27:23
  So.
• 27:23
  Right.
• 27:23
  But they can only have one in-house team.
• 27:26
  OK.
• 27:26
  We'll stay the same from last year.
• 27:34
  Back on that,
• 27:35
  WFP Rogue was a respected brand in the
• 27:37
  game for over a decade before creating an
• 27:39
  invitational team.
• 27:47
  Um, stop trying to put it process.
• 27:50
  What a Palooza created its own thing.
• 27:51
  Right.
• 27:52
  And I, and it wasn't a respected brand.
• 27:55
  Hell,
• 27:55
  I still don't even know if they're like
• 27:57
  totally respected.
• 27:59
  You talk to athletes right after like,
• 28:00
  man, what a shit show that was.
• 28:02
  But yet they come back the next year.
• 28:04
  It's every time.
• 28:06
  So every time somebody's got something to
• 28:08
  say about it.
• 28:09
  Nobody's ever come back from Rogue,
• 28:11
  even with the beat down that they got
• 28:12
  this year.
• 28:13
  It was like, that sucked.
• 28:15
  It's always like, holy shit,
• 28:16
  that was cool.
• 28:18
  It's never happened.
• 28:19
  Or if it has,
• 28:20
  it hasn't been public enough where
• 28:21
  everybody could find out about it.
• 28:23
  Water Palooza is a different story.
• 28:25
  It was raining the entire time.
• 28:26
  They changed the workout in the middle of
• 28:28
  it to where it didn't make any sense.
• 28:31
  whatever ended up happening,
• 28:33
  like the movies moved while they were
• 28:34
  swimming.
• 28:34
  So we've had like people swam different
• 28:36
  distances.
• 28:37
  All of that's happened at Waterpalooza.
• 28:39
  People complain about it and they go back
• 28:41
  the next year.
• 28:44
  Yeah.
• 28:44
  So back on the man thing,
• 28:45
  I'm just going to watch that pretty close.
• 28:47
  Um,
• 28:51
  There was an announcement that twenty six
• 28:52
  point one,
• 28:53
  twenty six point two have been flipped.
• 28:55
  So twenty six point one will be at
• 28:57
  the airfield.
• 29:02
  Yeah.
• 29:02
  And twenty six point two will be in
• 29:04
  Europe.
• 29:05
  Yep.
• 29:05
  I didn't realize,
• 29:07
  but twenty six point two is over Arnold
• 29:09
  weekend here in Columbus.
• 29:12
  So that's going to be wild.
• 29:13
  I don't think so.
• 29:18
  the last thing, gosh, I'm,
• 29:20
  I hate running out of time.
• 29:21
  I hate when I have one o'clock meetings.
• 29:23
  Um, the last thing I,
• 29:25
  Lucy was awesome on Savan this morning.
• 29:28
  Please go catch that.
• 29:30
  What I loved is when Savan asked her
• 29:32
  the question, um,
• 29:34
  about if Tia isn't at the games,
• 29:36
  is it the same if you win?
• 29:38
  And she was like, absolutely not.
• 29:40
  And that's what I've been arguing on this
• 29:43
  channel forever,
• 29:44
  that a champion's mindset isn't,
• 29:47
  I'm looking for the hole to win.
• 29:49
  It's I want to beat the best to
• 29:50
  win.
• 29:52
  Whether it be Laura, whether it be Lucy,
• 29:53
  whether it be Alex Kazan,
• 29:56
  whether it be Olivia Kerstetter.
• 29:59
  And you don't get as good as they
• 30:02
  are
• 30:05
  You don't get as good as they are
• 30:06
  without the mindset that you want to beat
• 30:07
  the best.
• 30:11
  And I love that response.
• 30:14
  You have to have the drive,
• 30:17
  the determination, the target,
• 30:20
  and the target to aim at because that's
• 30:23
  the standard.
• 30:26
  That is the standard.
• 30:27
  And right now it doesn't matter what men's
• 30:29
  or women's Tia is the standard.
• 30:30
  So if you are competing in the women's
• 30:32
  field and you have to, first of all,
• 30:34
  believe you can beat her.
• 30:36
  And secondly, have the desire to be.
• 30:38
  Both things.
• 30:40
  They have to go hand in hand.
• 30:41
  They can't, they can't be separate from,
• 30:42
  from one another.
• 30:43
  You have to say,
• 30:44
  I am going to beat her and I
• 30:46
  want to beat her.
• 30:48
  I want to win while she's there.
• 30:51
  And that it means a whole lot more
• 30:53
  if I beat her.
• 30:54
  Oh, my God.
• 30:54
  Yes, of course it does.
• 30:56
  She came back and said,
• 30:57
  I want to win the games regardless,
• 31:00
  but I don't want to have questions about
• 31:02
  it when it's done.
• 31:05
  Did I just win because she wasn't here?
• 31:07
  Correct.
• 31:09
  She wants to win,
• 31:10
  and it means that she won.
• 31:12
  She beat everybody who was there and the
• 31:14
  best.
• 31:17
  I thought that was gold.
• 31:20
  I keep going back to...
• 31:23
  at the ranch, Jeff Adler saying,
• 31:26
  I don't give a shit who wins the
• 31:27
  next event so long as it's not him
• 31:29
  pointing that mad phrase.
• 31:33
  Because he wanted to beat him.
• 31:35
  I don't care who else it is.
• 31:38
  I want to win.
• 31:39
  Sorry, Seve.
• 31:41
  It's very difficult to understand the
• 31:43
  cowboy at two X. I already talk fast.
• 31:46
  We're going to train the cowboy to talk
• 31:47
  at point five.
• 31:49
  Good luck with that.
• 31:53
  It's just win, man.
• 31:56
  Are they really going to miss you in
• 31:57
  the meeting?
• 31:59
  Probably not,
• 32:00
  but I'm too close to retirement to F
• 32:05
  up my job at this point.
• 32:10
  Do you think that'll happen the first few
• 32:11
  years after Tia retires?
• 32:13
  Like, great job,
• 32:14
  but you wouldn't have beaten Tia two years
• 32:16
  ago.
• 32:18
  I think it happened with Fraser.
• 32:19
  It definitely happened with Matt.
• 32:21
  And it happened to Matt with Rich.
• 32:25
  You never beat Rich.
• 32:29
  So yeah, it's going to happen.
• 32:31
  And that's why I think people want to
• 32:33
  take their shot while it's available.
• 32:38
  One percent.
• 32:40
  Six years from now, it won't matter.
• 32:43
  Probably.
• 32:44
  Let's be honest here.
• 32:47
  However, right now, it matters.
• 32:52
  Absolutely matters.
• 32:53
  Yes.
• 32:53
  Ben Smith in twenty fifteen.
• 32:56
  It is just a natural thing.
• 32:57
  It's still happening to basketball players
• 32:59
  today about Michael Jordan.
• 33:02
  Kobe Bryant.
• 33:02
  Kobe's been gone from the planet for years
• 33:06
  now.
• 33:07
  Yeah, but you couldn't be Kobe.
• 33:08
  Yeah, but you couldn't be Jordan.
• 33:12
  Michael Jordan, sixty three years old.
• 33:15
  And people are still talking about him
• 33:16
  like that.
• 33:17
  It's that it's that it's
• 33:20
  Forgot what they were asking him about,
• 33:22
  but, like,
• 33:22
  do you think your team could beat whatever
• 33:25
  team, like, was out there now, like,
• 33:27
  the best team?
• 33:27
  He said, I think it'd be close,
• 33:29
  but I think we could probably beat them.
• 33:31
  He said, well, you think it'd be close?
• 33:32
  He said, yeah, I mean,
• 33:33
  most of us are in our fifties now.
• 33:36
  Like,
• 33:37
  that's a champion mindset right there,
• 33:39
  right?
• 33:39
  Like, yeah, I mean, like,
• 33:41
  we'd go play them right now if you
• 33:42
  want.
• 33:45
  Yeah.
• 33:45
  Good point.
• 33:46
  It's like when an aging boxer finally gets
• 33:48
  beat,
• 33:48
  did you really beat them or did age
• 33:50
  beat them?
• 33:50
  I guess as an athlete,
• 33:51
  you have to be okay with that.
• 33:53
  That is exactly it.
• 33:57
  If nobody beats her head to head at
• 33:59
  the games,
• 34:00
  I'm not talking about rogue or somewhere
• 34:01
  else where, you know,
• 34:03
  Because the games is all that matters.
• 34:05
  Nobody beats her at the games head to
• 34:06
  head.
• 34:07
  Whoever, every person that came in second,
• 34:09
  that came in third, that came within shot,
• 34:11
  they're going to have that in the back
• 34:13
  of their heads forever.
• 34:14
  It's like, oh man, I could have just,
• 34:16
  you know,
• 34:16
  could have made a couple adjustments here.
• 34:18
  You know,
• 34:18
  maybe if I went a little bit faster
• 34:20
  there, whatever the case there,
• 34:21
  people are doing it now.
• 34:22
  I guarantee you.
• 34:25
  Once she's retired, it's done.
• 34:28
  she's actually retired i should say when
• 34:29
  she finally fully when her percent retires
• 34:32
  it's over with at that point people did
• 34:35
  the same thing for rich people did the
• 34:37
  same thing for matt they're still talking
• 34:40
  that rich can be yeah today field today
• 34:44
  on a totally screwed up knee and it's
• 34:50
  it's ridiculous
• 34:53
  Talking about, I think he'd be top five,
• 34:56
  top seven.
• 34:57
  And you go ask him, and he's like,
• 34:59
  y'all are crazy.
• 35:01
  Even Rich thinks they're insane.
• 35:03
  But people, they saw what he did.
• 35:05
  And they see what he's still doing.
• 35:07
  It's not like the dude's unfit.
• 35:12
  you know,
• 35:13
  just started hunting fricking whatever
• 35:15
  he's hunting nowadays, moose,
• 35:17
  God only knows what, and started,
• 35:18
  had developed a drinking problem.
• 35:20
  Now as a beer belly,
• 35:21
  the dude is still incredibly fit.
• 35:24
  It's ridiculous.
• 35:26
  He still places super high in the open
• 35:29
  because he still does it.
• 35:30
  I mean, come on, man.
• 35:33
  That's if he takes you open, seriously,
• 35:34
  a couple of times he's scaled the open
• 35:36
  workouts.
• 35:37
  Yeah.
• 35:38
  Because something was bothering him.
• 35:40
  right and he's that's earned at this point
• 35:44
  four individual sixteen or seventeen
• 35:47
  something like that yeah i mean come on
• 35:50
  dude he can he can afford to you
• 35:53
  know what i'm gonna go ahead and scale
• 35:58
  this one because my knee's about to fall
• 35:59
  off like yeah you deserve that all right
• 36:04
  guys well i hate to end this so
• 36:05
  soon
• 36:06
  But I got to go get my dress
• 36:08
  shirt on, log into a meeting,
• 36:12
  do my thing.
• 36:14
  Thank you so much for listening.
• 36:15
  We appreciate you all.
• 36:18
  I can't wait to talk to you tomorrow.
• 36:19
  I still got stuff on my list I
• 36:20
  want to talk about.
• 36:22
  Thank you for Tyler for jumping in and
• 36:24
  defending your point.
• 36:25
  Appreciate you, T. Watkins.
• 36:27
  And Hiller for being a translator between
• 36:29
  the two.
• 36:30
  Yeah, good job, Hiller.
• 36:33
  With that,
• 36:34
  we'll see everybody next time on Lunch
• 36:37
  with Clydesdale.
• 36:39
  Bye guys.