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- 1:51Speaker 3: Okay, so Meta you said, Meta, you said, are open
- 1:58Speaker 3: a healer? And there's one more company, right, is it?
- 2:02Speaker 3: Or just those three?
- 2:03Speaker 2: It's one more? Let me find out the last one.
- 2:13Speaker 2: Let me see. I can't find the last one. But
- 2:15Speaker 2: let's focus on those three right now.
- 2:16Speaker 3: All right, So, Meta, Palneer, and open Ai companies that
- 2:20Speaker 3: we've talked about a lot. So if you want to
- 2:22Speaker 3: tie it in from an investing standpoint, open Ai obviously
- 2:26Speaker 3: isn't a public traded company yet, but if you yeah,
- 2:29Speaker 3: if you look at Palenteer, I mean people have already
- 2:33Speaker 3: said that Palenteer stock is going to skyrocket based off
- 2:36Speaker 3: of you know, not just this war, but a series
- 2:39Speaker 3: of potential wars that could potentially happen in the future.
- 2:42Speaker 3: Meta somebody, you know, Mark Zuckerberg. Obviously he's been he's
- 2:45Speaker 3: been so dedicated to to to the presidency that he
- 2:48Speaker 3: actually was considering buying a home in DC, to moving
- 2:52Speaker 3: to move to d C to be closer to to
- 2:56Speaker 3: Trump and his administration. And then you look at that
- 3:02Speaker 3: their stock and it's up, and it's it's and it's
- 3:06Speaker 3: has gone up, right, So yeah, is it a coincidence?
- 3:12Speaker 2: No?
- 3:13Speaker 4: And I don't think most of Silicon Valley rushing into
- 3:17Speaker 4: defense tech when that was looked at as an antiquated
- 3:20Speaker 4: business perception wise in Silicon Valley. I just think it's
- 3:25Speaker 4: ironic to see the push into some of these wars
- 3:29Speaker 4: given the investment that they happen to defense tech. Now, meanwhile,
- 3:34Speaker 4: a Raytheon is not moving how normally would or lockhey,
- 3:36Speaker 4: Martin isn't moving. We're having like a change of the
- 3:39Speaker 4: guard amongst defense tech.
- 3:41Speaker 2: But I wonder at what.
- 3:42Speaker 3: Costs, And and even you know, Anderell you talked about
- 3:47Speaker 3: them before, sixty minutes. Does it expose on the ceo
- 3:51Speaker 3: And it's like you said, they're pushing defense tech, like
- 3:58Speaker 3: it's electric cars, Yeah they got they got these. The
- 4:03Speaker 3: CEOs have become celebrities, whether you're talking about Anderel, whether
- 4:06Speaker 3: you're talking about Palanteer, the CEOs of defence tech companies
- 4:10Speaker 3: have become celebrities. And before this was a this defence
- 4:15Speaker 3: period was a underworld, like arms dealers. They made movies
- 4:20Speaker 3: about arms dealers, like Nicholas Cage and stuff like that,
- 4:22Speaker 3: like you didn't even want to know you those people
- 4:26Speaker 3: didn't even want you to know who they were, and
- 4:29Speaker 3: you didn't know who they were. Now it's like the
- 4:35Speaker 3: talk of the town, and it's like they act like
- 4:37Speaker 3: this is like the new toys that people are playing with,
- 4:40Speaker 3: as far as drones that can destroy a whole entire city.
- 4:44Speaker 3: That says a lot about the times that we're in
- 4:46Speaker 3: as far as investment opportunities, But it also says a
- 4:49Speaker 3: lot about the times that we're in as far as
- 4:52Speaker 3: how war has become so mainstream that it has no
- 4:59Speaker 3: problem being traded publicly and celebrated publicly as well.
- 5:03Speaker 1: I mean, tech has always been a thing when when
- 5:05Speaker 1: people talk about growth and value. They found that in
- 5:07Speaker 1: tech and so if AI was a story and people
- 5:10Speaker 1: have led the head headlines with that, Well, what's the
- 5:13Speaker 1: next sector inside of the and it I mean, we've
- 5:16Speaker 1: seen what happens with Palenta. You know, I'll add to
- 5:18Speaker 1: what you said because Raytheon traditionally is not a stop.
- 5:22Speaker 1: But if you look at the history of the company
- 5:24Speaker 1: over the past three years, rt X is a company
- 5:27Speaker 1: that spawned from that. So if you look at rtx's
- 5:30Speaker 1: sharp in terms of what's happened with conflict, I mean,
- 5:34Speaker 1: it's out of this world, right, And so you have
- 5:36Speaker 1: to throw that inside there where you're talking about Androro
- 5:39Speaker 1: was one of the companies you just talked about, obviously
- 5:40Speaker 1: not publicly traded yet, but it looks all signs of
- 5:43Speaker 1: point and that's where it's headed. And we've seen some
- 5:45Speaker 1: of the successful IPOs that have happened this year. That
- 5:48Speaker 1: market is starting to open up, stunning heat up.
- 5:51Speaker 2: Again. You've seen what was Zuckerberg. You know what this
- 5:52Speaker 2: is headed.
- 5:54Speaker 1: I thought what Van said on on on Wednesday about
- 5:58Speaker 1: Talented was just like super powerful.
- 6:00Speaker 2: Like this is the most hiteous company in the world.
- 6:03Speaker 1: And so now from an investing standpoint, especially from a
- 6:06Speaker 1: retail standpoint. We always talk about morally investing. If you
- 6:10Speaker 1: know these things, you know that do you invest in
- 6:13Speaker 1: something because you know there's his growth, but you know
- 6:16Speaker 1: that destruction can come from it. It's one of these
- 6:18Speaker 1: dilemmas that we all have to face at some point.
- 6:21Speaker 4: I feel like, yeah, it's And even some people have
- 6:24Speaker 4: been like, well, why do you like anderrel but not Pollenteer.
- 6:28Speaker 4: I just said, I personally would not invest in Palenteer.
- 6:30Speaker 4: Like as far as the Silicon Valley space, I think
- 6:34Speaker 4: Peter Tiel that book Zero to one changed my life.
- 6:37Speaker 4: I just personally would not invest into it. But I
- 6:40Speaker 4: like Ander Reil because of the war that he went
- 6:43Speaker 4: through with Meta. It's a classic revenge story for those
- 6:48Speaker 4: of you who don't know that oculus design, which Apple
- 6:51Speaker 4: then copied, came from Palmer and they tried to bury him.
- 6:55Speaker 3: And the crazy thing about that is that allegedly, what
- 6:58Speaker 3: he says is that he got fired from Meta because
- 7:01Speaker 3: he was supporting Donald Trump. That's interesting because he's obviously
- 7:08Speaker 3: a pro Trump supporter. He was very he was very
- 7:11Speaker 3: vocal about his support for Trump years ago, and at
- 7:15Speaker 3: that time, I guess it wasn't fashionable to support Donald
- 7:17Speaker 3: Trump so in Silicon Valley, so he was fired, that's
- 7:21Speaker 3: what he says. Meta said that he was fired for
- 7:23Speaker 3: other reasons. But now Mark Zuckerberg is one of the
- 7:26Speaker 3: biggest supporters of Donald.
- 7:27Speaker 4: Trump, allegedly financially but not morally. I won't speak for zuck.
- 7:32Speaker 3: Though, but I mean as far as forward facing, right,
- 7:35Speaker 3: he donated a million dollars.
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