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12-29-25 Hour 2 - The COLORADO WAGON rolls on/Around the NFL/Nick Wright late to the party · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardy and Caine on demand.
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  Speaker 3: Not a huge surprise, but clearly one of the great
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  Speaker 3: comebacks since Burt Reynolds's hairline. It came in a two
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  Speaker 3: words statement which is now just begging to have a
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  Speaker 3: Nike campaign built around it. Quote unquote, I'm back. That's
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  Speaker 3: all Gret Caine said on Saturday. That was really all
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  Speaker 3: Gret Caine needed to say as his seventeen month retirement
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  Speaker 3: came to an end.
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  Speaker 4: People keep asking you Gret Caine back.
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  Speaker 2: And I haven't really had an answer, but now, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking Gret back.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not taking down. Don't know what's happened. He's back,
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  Speaker 1: He's back.
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  Speaker 4: Gret Caine's back.
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  Speaker 1: Somehow, Gret Caine returned just what I thought. Brett was out.
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  Speaker 4: Brett Kane the snow Man had to hurry on his way,
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  Speaker 4: but he waved goodbye, saying don't you cry. I'll be
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  Speaker 4: back again someday. Welcome by.
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  Speaker 5: We miss.
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  Speaker 1: You. Like what I've done with the place. Planos Diaz
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  Speaker 1: texta says, oh no, this show sucks again. That's the
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  Speaker 1: best welcome back I've read. That's so good.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you, John Up Too Far show.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny.
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  Speaker 6: Some Mo strolls in here late and now he's gone,
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  Speaker 6: And now he just left the studio again.
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  Speaker 1: Why not?
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  Speaker 6: I was going to ask Mo about how the Evs
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  Speaker 6: continue not to lose ever ever in the history of ever.
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  Speaker 5: Don't don't say what I've told him, because it's considered
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  Speaker 5: and I don't mean this in the meaning way derogatory.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a compliment. The ABS are so good,
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  Speaker 1: they're boring.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, like you like, no matter what happens, that
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  Speaker 6: they're going to win.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Like the game the other night. I'm sitting at home.
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  Speaker 5: You know, the Nuggets just had a devastating loss in Orlando.
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  Speaker 5: I was ticked off.
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  Speaker 1: Right. I get home and the family's watching the ass game.
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  Speaker 1: We're all watching the.
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  Speaker 5: Abs and they're down four to two, and I tell
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  Speaker 5: my wife, Oh, don't worry, they'll win.
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  Speaker 1: She goes, what do you mean they're down? I go watch,
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  Speaker 1: They'll win. You just know it. It's just they've gotten
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  Speaker 1: to that.
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  Speaker 5: Point now where I don't know where they find it,
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  Speaker 5: but they're superhuman almost that.
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  Speaker 1: Comeback against Vegas? Did that surprise anybody?
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  Speaker 5: Is anybody out on the streets of Denver going, oh
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  Speaker 5: my god, no, but this is what they are.
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  Speaker 6: When they were down five to four, I actually looked
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  Speaker 6: at my wife and I said, oh, this is another
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  Speaker 6: overtime game.
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  Speaker 1: He just felt it.
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  Speaker 6: You just knew it was common, and they have. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: we're at the turn of the calendar.
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  Speaker 1: They're so damn good.
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  Speaker 6: They are number one in the league by far in
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  Speaker 6: goals scored per game. They're number one league by far
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  Speaker 6: in goals allowed per game. And when you have both
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  Speaker 6: of those, it's pretty good. Here's what's funny, mos We
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  Speaker 6: were really I was belly aching a lot early in
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  Speaker 6: the year about the power play. Still hasn't gotten much better.
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  Speaker 6: It's a little better, Yeah, it's not.
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  Speaker 1: It's not where they want it to be, obviously, And
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Literally, they're so good five on five
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  Speaker 1: it does not matter.
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  Speaker 2: I was listening to Dennis Bernstein talk about this on
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  Speaker 2: the NHL Network.
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  Speaker 1: Who's that he's an NHL pundit. I guess you don't
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  Speaker 1: have to really know. Maybe I don't care, but he
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  Speaker 1: made a good point.
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  Speaker 2: He said, look, he goes, Look, they're the best five
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  Speaker 2: on five team in the league by far, he goes,
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  Speaker 2: So when they go on the power play, I guess
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  Speaker 2: the most case scenario was they're just killing off six
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  Speaker 2: minutes of time. You know, let's say you average six
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  Speaker 2: minutes on the power play per game.
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  Speaker 1: You draw three penalties in the game even if you
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  Speaker 1: don't score that six minutes gone.
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  Speaker 2: So now you only playing a fifty four minute game
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  Speaker 2: five on five when you're still the best team in
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  Speaker 2: the league five. So you're reducing the time and you're
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  Speaker 2: the best team in that reduced time. So I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's not working against.
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  Speaker 1: You, right, They're that good. Now we're inventing different ways
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  Speaker 1: to be good. That's what it feels like. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's just it's it's pretty crazy.
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  Speaker 5: I do have to say this most because you called
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  Speaker 5: the game when they went to the shootout, and they're
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  Speaker 5: starting to turn things around. Now they're playing better in overtime,
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  Speaker 5: they're starting to play better and shootout, so you could
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  Speaker 5: see it change when Nathan McKinnon started doing his little
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  Speaker 5: hand plaything and he scored on that shootout.
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  Speaker 1: Did you happen to see his hands?
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  Speaker 5: Did you watch closely at his hands because I was like,
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  Speaker 5: it brainwashed me. I got into a weird state watching
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  Speaker 5: his hands. I've never seen them man move his hands
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  Speaker 5: that quickly, you know what.
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  Speaker 1: It looked like those weird twelve year old kids who
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  Speaker 1: can do the Rubik's cube in twelve seconds, kind of
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  Speaker 1: like that. It looked like it did. He was like,
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  Speaker 1: what what's going on with his hands? Brett.
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  Speaker 2: For those of you who didn't watch, he comes flying
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  Speaker 2: into the zone straight at the middle, slows down in
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  Speaker 2: the slot, but he's dusting that puck off.
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  Speaker 1: He's stick handling, but.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's like it's like a rattlesnake's tail shaking and
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  Speaker 2: then he fires it right.
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  Speaker 1: It just looks like he got bared.
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  Speaker 6: Handling the pucket was just like a scrut.
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  Speaker 1: Just yeah. So he freeze tells you a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, hey, check out my hands. Check out my
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  Speaker 1: Rubik's cube. Hey, hey, check out my cube. It's all
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  Speaker 1: about the shot. So Carter Hart's just frozen.
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  Speaker 2: He can't he can't make him move until McKinnon makes
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  Speaker 2: him move. And by the time the puck is gone
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  Speaker 2: with such velocity on the wrist. Shot see it's by you,
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  Speaker 2: you can't react to it. And look, there are very
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  Speaker 2: few guys in the league that can do that. I
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  Speaker 2: would think to myself, you know a lot of guys
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  Speaker 2: try to come in and they stick handle and they
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  Speaker 2: try a deep move and all this kind of thing.
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  Speaker 1: You know what Joe Sakic used to do.
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  Speaker 2: Joe Sakik would race right into the zone and he'd
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  Speaker 2: shut your boom, just blow it by you where you
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  Speaker 2: don't have time to even get your glove up or
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  Speaker 2: move your blocker, that kind of thing. He would just
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  Speaker 2: blow it by you. And Nate essentially did the same thing,
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  Speaker 2: even though we slowed up in the slot.
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  Speaker 1: He went like that.
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  Speaker 5: It was unbelievable. I got a little lucky than nacious goal.
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  Speaker 5: He lost controls. But yeah, but that's fine. They want
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  Speaker 5: to shoot out, they want again. They keep winning. All
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  Speaker 5: they do is win. They are a wagon. They are
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  Speaker 5: a color on a wagon.
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  Speaker 1: You missed this ridiculous?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is where Mosa you shut up, turn your
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  Speaker 5: microphone off, and you accept whatever you're about to get.
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  Speaker 1: How dare this Jerkwuad said the same?
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  Speaker 5: How because I said it when you were gone, But
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  Speaker 5: I didn't have anybody to support me. We put together
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  Speaker 5: one of the greatest Would you call it the greatest
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  Speaker 5: single ever released?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I would.
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  Speaker 5: And this jerk has the goal to go behind our
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  Speaker 5: backs without even asking whether he broke our licensing agreement
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  Speaker 5: and did another song with another group.
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  Speaker 7: I just said, it's like, who do you think you are, Beyonce?
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  Speaker 7: I mean, that's ridiculous, that is embarrassing. You should be ashamed.
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  Speaker 7: And the fact that we're allowing you back in our
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  Speaker 7: orbit here you should be thankful because number one step back,
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  Speaker 7: Jacob Bloom is the greatest thing ever. Whatever you guys
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  Speaker 7: did pales in comparison. If I hear that one more time,
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  Speaker 7: my ears will start bleeding.
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  Speaker 1: It's awful. That's the truth. It's terrible music. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: for you to step out on a group.
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  Speaker 6: You know who you are, Moses, You're Miko, He is everything, Michael.
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  Speaker 1: Every thought you're too good for this place.
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  Speaker 6: So you went over to rival and tried to make
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  Speaker 6: another And guess what I said, ain't as good, ain't
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  Speaker 6: as good as the previous.
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  Speaker 1: Calm the move. That's a great point, Miko.
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  Speaker 6: Mos you're over here, and you know what.
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  Speaker 5: He came in here smiling like, hey, guys, check out
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  Speaker 5: this new song.
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  Speaker 1: I never liked it from the get go. I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was trash. Like we've seen various examples of the
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  Speaker 1: leaders of Soup.
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  Speaker 2: You know, big groups that they gotta go and they've
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  Speaker 2: gotta you know, they've gotta stretch their wings a little
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  Speaker 2: bit with another group.
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  Speaker 1: Either your kid, rock, going country.
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  Speaker 2: It happens, you know, I mean different collaborations in the
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  Speaker 2: music world.
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  Speaker 1: You've seen it happen before. But at least do something good.
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  Speaker 2: You're just like me, that's it's it's uh, you got
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  Speaker 2: pretty popular. By the way, our album cover, our album
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  Speaker 2: cover is way better than our our album cover.
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  Speaker 1: Now you can turn them off. Look at this, Look
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  Speaker 1: at this, I mean turn him off. You know.
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  Speaker 6: You know what's a great band is when they say, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: but our album covers cooler. Yeah, yeah, that's really good.
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  Speaker 1: No, shut him off, shut me off.
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  Speaker 5: You know they have to go to a fancy studio
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  Speaker 5: to get auto tuned, just to get just harmonized. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: we did ours in five minutes and it blasted all.
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  Speaker 6: The charts exactly right, So shut up. By the way,
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  Speaker 6: well you're just on. Anna Jokic is doing the impossible
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  Speaker 6: of improving still, which I don't. I don't know how
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  Speaker 6: you can improve and be better than what you were before.
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  Speaker 6: McKinnon's on pace for seventy seventy goals this year. He's
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  Speaker 6: doing the exact same thing, and he's doing it for roster.
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  Speaker 6: That feels like all the depth that we talked about
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  Speaker 6: in the offseason is all kind of coming together, you know.
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  Speaker 6: Brock Nelson seems to be finding a lot more of
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  Speaker 6: a stride now, Marty Nachos is on pace for more
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  Speaker 6: points than Miko's ever had in an av sweater. All
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  Speaker 6: of it's coming together. With the combined fact of this,
• 9:53
  Speaker 6: your goaltending is as good as it's ever bet like,
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  Speaker 6: at least in this iteration of the aves, like you
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  Speaker 6: put all of that together and you just start to
• 10:02
  Speaker 6: think most like.
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  Speaker 1: There is just keep it.
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  Speaker 5: Together, Yeah, it just just keep it. And this is
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  Speaker 5: where I because I think I get.
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: Worried because there's a lot of season left.
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  Speaker 5: I know, you know what I mean, you know where
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  Speaker 5: that worry comes from.
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  Speaker 1: Just keep it together.
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  Speaker 5: Of course, Like when kil mccarr went down to block
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  Speaker 5: that shot, Yeah, tell me what crossed your mind?
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  Speaker 1: Uh? I don't. I don't want a broken arm. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I don't want. I don't want. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want a broken bone. Yeah, I don't want that to happen.
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't want any of that to happen. On
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  Speaker 2: every time that even comes up, I got a knock
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  Speaker 2: on my wood. No, I don't want that to happen. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: things do happen, thought, and you have to prepare for them.
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  Speaker 2: You have to deal with them. And you're gonna just
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  Speaker 2: do it and move on, is what you're gonna do.
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  Speaker 2: It's a long season.
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  Speaker 1: They just it's.
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  Speaker 6: You know, you've gotten to a place with all of
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  Speaker 6: these teams where I have officially moved the goal post
• 11:02
  Speaker 6: for two of the three here. I think the Nuggets
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  Speaker 6: are still kind of the place that they were before,
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  Speaker 6: and we'll see how much that changes with a fully
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  Speaker 6: healthy roster whenever that happens. But the way that the
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  Speaker 6: Avs are playing mode like, there's nothing short of a
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  Speaker 6: Stanley Cup that's going to feel right.
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  Speaker 1: There's just not.
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  Speaker 6: And I know that's a ton of pressure on a team,
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  Speaker 6: but it's like, when you're this good, that's just what
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  Speaker 6: comes with it. I've done the same with the Broncos.
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  Speaker 6: You've been the best team record wise in the NFL
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  Speaker 6: the entire season, the incremental steps I was talking about
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  Speaker 6: before the season started of like, hey, if you can
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  Speaker 6: just win a playoff game, that's great. I think you
• 11:40
  Speaker 6: aim higher than that now I do, and it's it's
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  Speaker 6: a byproduct of you being really good. Like that's that's
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  Speaker 6: how I look at it. And people might say it's unfair.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know you guys feel about it. I move
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  Speaker 6: goal posts when I don't put in front of me.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's unfair.
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  Speaker 2: I think that during the course of a season, there's
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  Speaker 2: a playability about where you are as a team. Yeah,
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: and the better you get, the higher the expectations get,
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  Speaker 2: not only from us bright you sit there and you say, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I expect this, and I expect that. I can assure
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  Speaker 2: you out of Dove Valley. The Denver Broncos right now
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  Speaker 2: expect big things out of themselves.
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  Speaker 1: They should.
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  Speaker 2: The Colorado Avalanche expect big things out of themselves, and
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  Speaker 2: they should. They'll be disappointed if they don't accomplish their goals.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what, maybe the Denver Nuggets are the
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  Speaker 1: same kind of situation.
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  Speaker 2: Although you know you've got that, okay, see lurking ahead,
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  Speaker 2: But a fully healthy Denver Nuggets team. I'll bet internally
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  Speaker 2: they believe vic in themselves as much as anybody does anybody.
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  Speaker 6: Adam Schefter is gonna join us at nine o'clock this morning.
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  Speaker 6: I can always get in touch with us. The back
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  Speaker 6: is in Shanker Studios or broadcasting. The backus in Shanker Studios.
• 12:51
  Speaker 6: Serious lawyers with the seriously injured.
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, most okay, No, we're gonna talk to Shifty about
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: the Broncos and about playoff scenarios and all that kind
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: of thing. I'ven't had a chance to ask you yet.
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  Speaker 2: How does it feel to be sitting in that chair?
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  Speaker 2: How do you feel? Does it feel weird? Does it
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  Speaker 2: feel normal? And it's like a hand in the glove?
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  Speaker 2: What's going on over there?
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  Speaker 1: Like I never left? Really? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Another mouth to feed though? Does that feel the pressure
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  Speaker 5: of having another mouth to feed? Is that wigh on
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  Speaker 5: you at all?
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  Speaker 1: You think that's up to me? Have you made your
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  Speaker 1: change to your health it's got to get back to
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  Speaker 1: work in a herby? Yeah. Have you done your health
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  Speaker 1: benefit thing? Have you changed it to another dependent? I did?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: All good.
• 13:30
  Speaker 6: It's a little complication.
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: That was very complicated. It always is. You know what.
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  Speaker 6: The issue was still kind of dealing with this right now.
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  Speaker 6: The kid was born the same week as open enrollment
• 13:41
  Speaker 6: and it got confused for open enrollment and not life changed.
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  Speaker 6: So kid wasn't going to be covered until the first
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  Speaker 6: of the year, and that's got to change.
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  Speaker 5: How does it feel to know that you've got kids
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  Speaker 5: that are just newborns under your plane and I got
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  Speaker 5: twenty somethings Still.
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  Speaker 6: Kids come back for Christmas? You're like, you're still on mine.
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  Speaker 1: Still on my insurance plan. It's been years.
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  Speaker 6: How about you, mo, You're still rocking that.
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  Speaker 1: Uh yeah. As a matter of fact, I remember I
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: remember Jay haas golfer. Remember Jay Hawes and his kid.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: What's his kid's name? Kid's a golfer. Two Oh. I
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: played with this kid at the pro am. That's so playing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what's his name? He didn't say a word to us,
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  Speaker 1: really yeah. Wow. We played eighteen holds and I think
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: he said two words, and he was talking about pressure.
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  Speaker 1: Jay hass was sounds like a fun round. Yeah, he
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  Speaker 1: was really into it. He goes, you don't you don't
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  Speaker 1: guys today don't know pressure.
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  Speaker 2: He goes back in the damn on the PGA tour
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  Speaker 2: because I got three little kids at home, and I
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  Speaker 2: gotta try, I gotta make I gotta make the cut.
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  Speaker 1: This week, or you know, they don't get fed. Essentially,
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  Speaker 1: is what it is, right, Yeah, because there wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: Back back in his day, there wasn't nearly as much money,
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  Speaker 2: not nearly as much, and so he's like on a
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: week to week basis, Man, I'm gonna win a bago
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  Speaker 2: traveling the tour, trying to make enough money to support
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  Speaker 2: my family.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, it just hit me out. So that's
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: essentially where you are right now.
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  Speaker 5: I've had the same Christmas for twenty plus years, me
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  Speaker 5: just sitting there cleaning up present after present after present.
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  Speaker 1: My wife's spoiling all these kids.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're all on my insurance plan, my cell phone plan,
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: my car insurance plan, just cleaning up. Been doing it
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: for you.
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  Speaker 1: And just just know this, you got too little. That's
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: gonna be there for a long time. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Are you saying you feel underappreciated in your own house
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  Speaker 6: during Christmas?
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  Speaker 1: Is that what's going on?
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  Speaker 5: It's crazy how it's the same. It's like the same thing,
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  Speaker 5: nothing changes.
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna start calling my kids that they aren't my
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: kids anymore. They're like, how many kids you got?
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: I have two dependents, that's all it is.
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: Three oh three, five, four nine two five. Look around
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: the league.
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: Next, mos, I'm giving out free financial advice on this show. Now,
• 16:11
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• 16:14
  Speaker 5: for the HSA.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: He had no idea what it was. That's not true.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: I signed up for it.
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: I just got to do that.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you got dude.
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: You don't understand what it's tax free man, It's text
• 16:25
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• 16:27
  Speaker 1: You use it. Okay.
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: I'm on it rally House Football Monday.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: At this time. Every Monday, we take a look around
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: the NFL and we start with Thursday. No, you guys
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: talked about Thursday already. Saturday, we'll go.
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: Texans and Chargers. So the Texans win twenty to sixteen.
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: That keeps the Chargers out of the AFC West run.
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: That loss gave the Broncos their first division title in
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: ten years. Question is I watched the Chargers play and
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: it felt like the same thing I've seen before. I
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: know they're ravaged with injuries, but it felt like Justin
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: and Herbert trying to grip that thing out made some
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: plays and guys didn't finish for him.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: A lot of drops in that game, a lot Keenan
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: Allen had a couple big drops in that game.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know which of those teams I would least
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: like to play.
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: I think it's Houston, is it. I think I think
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: we'll see. We'll see this weekend, but I think it's used.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Their defense is pretty dang good in Houston, dude, pretty
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: dang good. Although listen, either of these teams can bite
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: you in the butt on any game week so neither
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: one would be a picnic.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Put it that way.
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: Houston's offense just I mean, you guys, remember how the
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: game started. It was like within five minutes, fourteen forty
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: yard bombs from Cjson and then he fell asleep. Yeah,
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: their offense seemed to find something here over the last
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: month or two, because remember they were struggling early in
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: the year offensively, and that seems to have changed now.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Ravens Packers. Here's what's weird about this one.
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: Both starting quarterbacks were out of the game, and you thought,
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: all right, it's gonna be Malik Willis versus Hunting. And
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: in that game, I figured that the Packers defense and
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: everything else that they had was going to kind of
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: take over, and they got worked by Baltimore, crushed, and
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: Derreck Henry, who's been asleep all year, goes for two
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: sixteen and four touchdowns to give the Ravens to win
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: and keep them in the race. This final week for
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: the AFC North.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Pretty amazing. I had the Packers in this one on
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: my layer down yep, uh, yeah, I didn't. I guess
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: I didn't anticipate that Derrick Henry would go busting himself
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: for two bills and four. I did not see that coming.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: That's on me, especially for a team that barely had
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: anything to play for.
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: So Ravens now eight and eight a chance to win
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: the AFC North next week in the Steelers next week, by.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: The way, I do they do? If they do, I
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: think they'll just run the ball.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: If Derek Henry can do that, then yeah, uh he
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: just hasn't done that really all year. It was just
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: like a reminder like, oh, yeah, you can't do that now,
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: Bengals Cardinals. I've always wondered this was since he since
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: he's been out of this for a long time, cheaping
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: motivation and what do you do as a head coach
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: when you know you're out of it, and Joe Burrow's
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: dealt with injuries all year, do you just let him
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: go out there and play. They beat the snot at
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: Arizona thirty seven to fourteen, but you don't play them
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: this final week, do you.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Joe Burrow wants to play. It seems
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: like he wants to play.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I mean he's He's made it pretty clear he wants
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: to play if he's healthy, he wants to play football.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's healthy.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: Outside of Trey McBrien, who has proven to be the
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: best tight end of the game right now, is there
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: any redeeming value to the Arizona Cardinals?
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: And I thought last year they were starting to find.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: So mostly team just skunked it up.
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: I think had the country The injury to James Connor
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: early in the year that I think really affected their
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: offense because they haven't been able to run the ball
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: since that is true. I know that that Kyler Murray's
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: gone from there.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: These well, I don't know what they're gonna do with him. Well,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: they've wanted him gone even when they were half good. Yeah,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: well he did just have a baby. Oh that's that
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: explains it.
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, congratulations, new he's got a new baby.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: How about this.
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: The Steelers, all they had to do is beat the
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: Cleveland Browns and they would have been in the playoffs,
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: and instead they lose thirteen to six. Uh, Shador was okay,
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: other than the worst interception I've ever seen in my
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: life that was thrown in that game. At the same time,
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: Jerry Judy just kind of stared at the football and
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: didn't play defensive back at all. But the Browns win
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: thirteen to six.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Hey, the Steelers missed out on a pick six? Who
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: was that linebacker? Let me look for him, but but
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: bah Malie Carrison.
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's who it was. Aaron Rodgers looked so slow
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: he did that final series, was trying to move the ball.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: Oh my goodness. It's like, hey, grandpa, what's your assessment
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: of your door through these starts up and down? I mean,
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: I'd like to see a complete season, maybe a complete camp.
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: Do you think that they're sold on the idea that
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: he's the starter next year?
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I think he's the best quarterback of all the quarterbacks
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: who played correctly. I think he is, But I think
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: they need to coach him up. Man. He's just been
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: an afterthought. He's been embrace him maybe, yeah, actually put
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: your arm around him. So you know what, we we
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: kind of like you. It's gonna be kind of hard
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: to do with Deshaun Watson soalthy in camps. Exactly right.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know what for a guy that you owe
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: that money to. I bet he, I bet they go
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: with him.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: Saints beat the Titans thirty four to twenty six.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I'm officially come around.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I've officially come around on I'm a Tyler shut guy,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: are you? I've been picking against the Saints since he
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: started starting.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: About what five weeks ago? Yeah, three point thirty three,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: two touches yesterday and a one two point seven rating.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Hey, I'm coming around, and I don't care who they played.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: I'm coming around with the guy.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: MOSR and Bret What former Denver Bronco running back carried
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: it fourteen times for ninety four yards, including a long.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Thirty two yard touchdown run estimate? Did they have Aldrich estimate?
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: In New Orleans? He looked good, he did.
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: I've always wondered guys like that, Well, what Devon Vailey
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: plays there too? I have not heard a single thing
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: about Devon Vailey though, have you guys no, no, remember
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: that was that big trade that happened and was, oh,
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: we're gonna regret that one. And Vley's got let's see here,
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: twenty five catches this year, twenty five not much.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: Do you think that the Broncos, if you put estimate
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: on this current Broncos roster JK. Dobbins is out, would
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: they make room for him or would even fit in
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: the rotation.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: It's a great question. I don't know what Sean Payton
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: didn't well, now, I don't.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Think he's that great of a player. Clearly Payton bubble.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: They had fumble, and clearly Peyton said, you know what
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: we he fumbled. Yeah, get a new start someplace else.
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: I think they'd still stick with Harvey and Juliel. Yeah,
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: I don't think you'd get run here Jags and Colts.
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: Jags win twenty three to seventeen. That win keeps them
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: alive for the one seed. And I know that you
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: guys talked a lot about the Jags after the game
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: a couple of weeks ago, but I've I'm so confused
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: by them. They continue to win. At times it looks
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: really sloppy, and at other times they look like an
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: unreal office.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: Every other team, Yeah, it's every other team.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I mean you could say, pick a team. I could
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: say the same thing. I was just going to say.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Outside the quote unreal offense part, it sounds like you're
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: talking about your Denver Broncos a little bit. Yeah, I
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: mean it sounds like, hey, listen, you know they they
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: they keep.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Winning, right, they just keep winning.
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: But they were on that stretch man they put up
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: thirty five, twenty seven, twenty five, thirty six, forty eight,
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: thirty four.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Like their offense is how muchy are going to have
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: a clunker from time to time?
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think that probably was their clunker. Yeah,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: what do you think they're doing the finale against Tennessee?
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: Oh, blow their doors completely off? Uh, Dolphins in Bucks Bucks.
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: If they win that game, they would have been first
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: in the NFC South. They lose to Miami and now
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: that sets up for a final week showdown between them
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: and the Panthers to see who's going to make the
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: playoffs from that division. And if they do win that
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: game and win the NFC South, they will have won
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: their division with a sub five hundred record.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: They I'm going to anoint the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: the most disappointing football team in the NFL.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: They melted. They were a six.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: And five and one then six and two football team,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: and they have gone right down the crow.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: They melted.
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: Yep, question I have about them. Todd Bowles called them
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: out in that press conference, dropping a whole bunch of
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: f bombs, which sounded weird for Todd Bowles to do that,
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: and then they've responded poorly.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: So what does that say about the head catch? When
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: you lose that battle? You know, you have like jay
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Ja Reddick's doing the same thing in La.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: You only so I have so many bullets in the
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: chamber where you gonna rip your team before they start saying.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: No, no, DeAndre. And did you see what he said
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: about it? No?
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: They said, uh said DeAndre, JJ said that this was
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: gonna be an uncomfortable day for you, and he goes
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: and you guys bought into that.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: That was his response. Are you kidding? Yeah? Uh yeah.
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: When the message when you drop one of those and
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: you don't get a response, it's typically not good news. Now, Uh,
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: I know that this is a little bit of both.
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: I don't know what it's more of Patriots Jets forty
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: is the Are the Patriots just everything that their record
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: has build them to be, or are the Jets everything
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: that their record is building the.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Defensive wise, yesterday I watched this game defensive wise the
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Jet the Jets stink with their offense.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, so the Patriots has played some good defense.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, gentlemen, I'm here to tell you right now that
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Drake May is beyond the reels really good.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: He's so good, you know, I don't I don't care
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: what you say about the Jets defense though.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, even when they've actually had good coverage, like
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: really good coverage. This guy threads the needle like nobody's business,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: and he does it with a sense of poise and
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: slickness and panache that a.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Lot of other guys don't have out of his class.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: Let's alive that the Patriots did to a division rival
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: what the Broncos fans hope the Broncos would do to
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: a division rival last Thursday?
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: One?
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Right? Yep uh.
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: By the way, Drake May is completing seventy two percent
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: of his passes on nine yards per attempt, which I
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: previously thought was.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Bred up telling you I watched him throw the ball.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I text I texted with coach Sanford yesterday morning. This
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: guy's the real deal. I mean, I don't know how
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: to tell you, but he looked awesome. And yeah, again,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: the Jets stink, but you know what he did. But
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: first of all, he took he took them apart because
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: they stink.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Number two.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: But even when again they're playing great coverage and they're
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: doing this, and they're doing that, and he's under pressure
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: and they got he's got guys on him. Dude, he's
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: making unbelievable plays.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: Uh, Seahawks and Panthers, they get in one of those situations.
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: If the Panthers win and they oh, by.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: The way, sorry it's a timeout. Sorry.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: They had thirty five points at halftime, then they they
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: then they scored to start, then they sat him. Yeah,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: he didn't play virtually the entire second half.
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: Right, Seahawks and Panthers another situation. Panthers win, they take
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: the NFC South, couldn't do it. The Seahawks are really good.
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: Their defense is really really good. Now.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I think the Seahawks struggled a little.
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: Bit more than I would have thought. With Carolina. That
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: was a seventeen to ten game at first, well, seventeen
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: to ten in the fourth quarter, and then a touchdown
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: in field goal later makes the score look a little
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: bit different. I if I just ask you right here,
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: the Seahawks are very obviously a great football team.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Do you trust Sam Donald want to hit the postseason?
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Not really?
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: If you if you go head to head against the Rams,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I'm taking the Rams over the Seahawks.
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: What about the Niners, dude?
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: The Niners are that team wi coming at you no
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: matter what, no matter who they have, no matter what
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: they have.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: They lose Kittle, big deal.
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: Their backup tight end suddenly turns into great Kittle Part two.
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: But we'll get there in a second. Giants beat the
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: Raiders thirty four to ten. That's why the worst games
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: I call them, Greg You and Gregg's Uh, Giants win
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: thirty four to ten. How do you feel if you're
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: a Giants fan? That was a game for the number
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: one overall pick essentially, and you beat the Raiders, which
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: kind of hands them the number one overall pick. And
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: you now you know what I mean, like, did you
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: want to lose that game? Or do you want your
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: team to play well?
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: It sounds like a team that doesn't have a runner, right.
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, what the front office wants and what the coaching
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: staff wants are two entirely different things.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: But what are you supposed to do? Are the Raiders
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: really that bad? Yes?
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Yes, they stink, yes, which is why the Broncos should
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: have blown their doors. The Broncos should just beat the
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: snot out of those guys.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: But they didn't like the barely won games.
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: We'll get to Nick right audio and the segment that
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: Vic wants to play, But I still remember Nick Wright
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: picking the Raiders second in this division before the season
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: started and having them a playoff team.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: They're two and fourteen, by the way, the Brocos should
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: come in here and beat that at.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: So Eagles Bills was a weird game because the scoring
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: wasn't happening. The Bills in the fourth quarter grabbed two touchdowns.
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: It's a tie game, thirteen.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: You're sorry, do you want to describe the conditions? A monsoon,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: a driving rainstorm all day long?
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: That was what like thirty eight degrees too, had to
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: be just brutal, so uncomfortable, terrible. So they get a
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: couple of scores late in that fourth quarter. It's twelve
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: to thirteen, Bills down one it's thirteen to twelve, don't
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: do sorry, thirteen twelve bills down one? Do you kick
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: the field goal? Going to overtime to go for the win?
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Extra point? Yeah? And then you're not what your freaking
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: you're not malfunction right, It's going to take me a minute.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: You're not there. Uh. They were wait, twelve to third heats.
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: They were gonna bunt the guy over, but Bruce Boo Booth,
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: Boodrau and Ratuca.
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: He hit a snapshot and the canoocks fired. Do you
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: kick the extra points? Send it no tea or go
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: for two? They went for two. Here's what's messed up.
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: The play was there.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: It was right there. Josh Allen just missed him. Vic
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: listen because you probably don't watch a football. I would
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: have kicked because the Eagles had stalled offensively the entire
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: second half.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: They're probably not even going to score, all right, and
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: you got all the momentum going your way.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I guess momentum doesn't mean a damn. That's fine rule
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: of thumb. As you go for it on the road
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: they were hol yet at home they were Yeah, So
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: the play is there.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: He's got dudes streaking at the back of the end
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: zone a wide open and you know what he does.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: He throws it into the dirt. Shure. I mean he
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: missed guy, he missed him.
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a big one too. That takes me to
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: eleven and five and other battling for seating and positioning
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: takes them out of the the AFC race. And then
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: the Sunday night game, which was just a you get
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: a possession, you.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Get a touch down, like a game. You know what.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: For the first time in my lifetime, well, and I
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: shouldn't say that eighty five was fun for the first time.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: It's eighty five. The Chicago Bears are actually fun to watch.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Usually it's trash that one year under color the fun.
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but this is a funda. Caleb Williams is fun
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: to watch. Did you see that hook and ladder that
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: almost worked at the end of that game. I like
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: Colston Loveland. I like everything about that team.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: They're fun. Ben Johnson calls a great game. It's funny.
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: Like I was not believing in Caleb Williams for a
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: good portion of this year. In these last few weeks,
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: I just I got I just gotta eat it.
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: I think coach your cell phones as bad as the
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: offense right now.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: He's he's really good.
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: And again another situation late in the game, it's fourth down,
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: he got a chance to win it, and I don't
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: know what he was doing. I know he's just trying
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: to buy time. He's got people bearing down on him.
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: He's back pedaling, kind of spikes it right into the
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: dirt in the end zone where it looked like the
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: guy would have been open for the game.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: A lot. Yeah.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: By the way, brock Party had a similar play earlier
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: in the game and he evaded two oncoming rushers and
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: he looked really good.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know what to think of the Niners again.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: You keep chopping off parts of their body and they
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: just grow them right back.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Do that division, I mean, imagine crazy and the Rams
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: play tonight on the road of the Falcons. They it's
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: no the no, no, no, no, no.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean you've got you've got a
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: thirteen to three and two twelve and fours yep.
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah. But the division will be decided next week when
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: the Niners play the Seahawks.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: That is correct. Uh.
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: That is a look around the NFL Adam Schefter at
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: nine o'clock. We have some audio from Nick Right, the
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: big ones to get to and it's about being late
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: to the party.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: You can be late, you just can't be three four
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: years late. He's too late.
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: We'll get to it next probably has football Monday. Adam
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: Schefter is gonna join us at nine o'clock. But uh,
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: Jokic and the stretch.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: That he's on.
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: I know the Nuggets have not won in two of
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: the last three games, but his numbers have been insane.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: The greatest three games stretch in the history of the NBA.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: No one has done over three games what NICOLEA Jokic
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: has done. So you just leave it at that. Nobody's
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: arrived at the numbers.
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: Like last night. Last night, what is it? Kawhi Leonard
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: had fifty five? What do you finished with in that game?
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Look it up and.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: Everybody was going crazy, Oh my god. Really check out
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: his assists and rebounds? Did he have sixteen boards and
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: fifteen assists?
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Fifty five? Eleven and two? Did have five steals in
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: three blocks? Great game? Yeah, Nicola does it all the time.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: That's all. It's all I want to say.
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: Well, it's just look again. The marvel that I have
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: about this is that you get two guys in town
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: that do this.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Every year.
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: McKinnon and Jokic put up these ungodly numbers and it
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: feels like they can't get better, and then they get better,
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: like both of them do. But Jokic to do this,
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: and you mentioned this earlier, Vic, and I don't think
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: that this is a small detail, especially in the sport
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: that he plays.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Every night.
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: Availability every night, he leads the league in availability. No
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: star is more available he and Shae. Honestly, Shay's been available. Yeah,
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: durability and availability. Both of those players, MVP level players,
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: They're always available more than anyone. Nikole Jokich's season a
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: couple of stats I'll spit out for you, averaging close
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: to thirty a game, twenty nine point nine. That's higher
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: than Shak's best season scoring Shack. Ever, He's averaging twelve
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: and a half rebounds a game, better than Karl mal
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: Own's best season ever. He's averaging over eleven assists a
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: game this season, better than Jason Kidd the Magician, sixty
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: percent field goal percentage better than Tim Duncan. Ever, is
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: BPM whatever the hell that is is sixteen and a half.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: His pr whatever the hell that is is thirty five
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: and a half. Yeah, oh these numbers, I get lost
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: in them. Bpm pr ged but go outside, nerve whatever,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: what's this boufa?
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, but the numbers, the numbers are ridiculous. We've
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: seen this coming. He continues to improve. Every time we
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: think he's reached the he's plateauing, right, the plateau. He
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: proves us all wrong.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: There's no plateau, like we've said the last three years. Right. Oh,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: the numbers.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: He's gonna have everybody back this year, so he won't,
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: he won't equal the numbers.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he got better.
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: Well he's needed now with three guys out of the
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: starting line. Yeah, I mean, this is just what kind
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: of happens.
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: He just gets better and better and better and better.
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: And what you're about to hear, We're about to go
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: to something here. You're gonna hear Nick Right. And it's
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: no surprise. Nick Right hates everything about Denver, not just
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: the nugget in Nicola.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: He hates the Broncos. He's proven that time and time again.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: Now you can do that hate a city thing when
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: you're a local radio or local merchant. That's what we are.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: We're a local station. We adhere to the local community.
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: This is what we do. We're Denver, right, and it's like,
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: I hate everything about La and LA sports.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I hate Chicago.
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: Sports, Boston sports, Philly sports, Dallas sports.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Give me a city and I hate you. It's just
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: the way it is.
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, we're in Denver, But when you're a
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: national talk show host, you're supposed to sort of get
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: off that amusement park ride because you're not you're a
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: national host.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Correct? Am I wrong?
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: There?
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I think wrong?
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: That's probably right.
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: Okay, So you can't like hate a city if you're
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: a national host, because you might have people from that
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: city appeal to your show.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: I mean, if I did a national show, I'm not
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: sure i'd open every show by saying I hate La.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: His background, he's a Kansas City guy. I know.
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, you got to start to stop playing that game.
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: Agree on a national scale. So he continues to kill
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: Denver in every sport. The Broncos have proven him wrong.
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: He's eating that that Bronco's bite all season and now
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: nikoliokicch this is what he is now.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: I want you to listen, compare and contrast. We had
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Nick on our show.
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: The only reason I do this is it's only a
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: matter of time before Nikolejokicch changes your mind. He's like
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: a computer chip. He will process you, He'll figure out.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: He figures everyone out, even his deepest critics. Everyone has
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: turned the corner on Nikoliokicic. Three years ago, Nick Wright
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: came on this show and said he will never turn
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: the corner on Nicolo.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: He's not what you guys think he is.
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: We called him an idiot then, and now he has
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: finally turned the corner.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, and Nelly, I'm.
• 37:42
  Speaker 8: Glad to join him, Glad to talk to you guys.
• 37:44
  Speaker 8: Be clear, though we've never gone back and forth on Twitter.
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: You called me a do and I and I said
• 37:48
  Speaker 8: I've done on the radio.
• 37:49
  Speaker 9: Show, and I'm a little ashamed. I was so late
• 37:51
  Speaker 9: to the party on Jokicch, but I showed up.
• 37:54
  Speaker 8: But I did say he was the worst player to
• 37:57
  Speaker 8: win MVP since Dave Cowens.
• 37:59
  Speaker 9: He's spellbinding in games like yesterday and is just in
• 38:04
  Speaker 9: for today's basketball, a close to perfect offensive player. The passing,
• 38:10
  Speaker 9: the shooting, the play, all of it.
• 38:14
  Speaker 8: History is going to look back on this. Let me
• 38:16
  Speaker 8: ask you, thirteen guys have won back to back MVPs
• 38:19
  Speaker 8: and NBA history. I'll tell you them very quickly, Will Russell, Kareem,
• 38:23
  Speaker 8: Moses Byrd, Magic, Michael Duncan, Steve Nash, remember him, Lebron,
• 38:29
  Speaker 8: Steph Giannis, Jokic, thirteen guys jokes about joined the list.
• 38:33
  Speaker 8: Do you think he is closer on that list to
• 38:38
  Speaker 8: the eleven all time greats or to Steve Nash?
• 38:41
  Speaker 9: I think I'm ready to say that if he were
• 38:44
  Speaker 9: to win another ring, he's the best center since Kareem,
• 38:48
  Speaker 9: which would vaunt him ahead of Shaq and a King.
• 38:50
  Speaker 8: Yes, I'm aware he went in. It's one of the
• 38:53
  Speaker 8: many reasons he shouldn't have been the MVP buddy. But
• 38:57
  Speaker 8: the idea that he that you don't don't tell me
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: that my numbers are wrong when your numbers are wrong,
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: and then say I'm only looking at the numbers like
• 39:05
  Speaker 8: that's not gonna fly.
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: How does it feel now to be wrong, to be
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: that wrong, to be that late to the party, to
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: be that dismissive three years ago that interview, the one
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: of them took place three years ago when we had
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: him on the show, and listen, I give him all
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: the credit in the world for coming on. He didn't
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: have to come on because I called him names. But
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: I said, you're not seeing this right. You're you're you're
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: not seeing it right. You're you're completely unglued here. You
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: don't see the value in this player. And I've said
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: that to him, I've said it to who else, Chris Mannix?
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: Who else have we had on the show, Spike, how
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: many of you national people want to come on and
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: spar with us and get your ass?
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: People? The Chris Mannix who will never have on here
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: ever again.
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: They got nowhere else to go with you, especially with
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: Jokis Like, here's the funny thing. Whenever somebody drops ay,
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: history will look back on my take as and you're like,
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: uh oh. The thing that was obvious to Yoki that
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: I think us that made it difficult for everybody else
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: is because when you're such a unique style in one
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: that is not flashy, it's really hard for people to
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: understand it. Most how many times have I said this?
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: It took people so long to come around to Yokic
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: because it didn't look like your NBA highlight film of
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: a superstar. Superstars had the same tapes. They were jumping
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: over five people and dunking or hitting a step back
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: three or ball handling or whatever, and Yokic just didn't
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: have the flash that they had. And I think so
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: many people thought, well, it's just a weird coincidence of
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: stat stuffing as all this guy is doing when it's
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: been brilliant for like seven years now, and yeah, go ahead.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Well, what's frustrating to me is that people would come
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: in with.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Their biases for whatever reason. Whatever your maybe against Nikola Jokic,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but whatever it is,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: doesn't look right, doesn't feel right, doesn't impress you, whatever,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: And the refusal to get off of that position despite
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: the evidence in.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Front of your face is what is frustrating to me.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I feel like, when you're in that role of a
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: national person, there's got to be some level of objectivity. Now,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: you could say, you know what, I just don't think
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: he's as good as koreem Okay, and you could you
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: argue your way through that, but to say he's nowhere
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: close to any of these guys, and you know, that's
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: where you become on hinge, and that's where people like
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: me are able to see right through you.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: There are guys in this league that I don't like.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: And there are guys in every league that I don't like,
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: but I will acknowledge you know what that guy's Yeah,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: really damn beast, damn good and maybe one of the
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: best of all time. I don't think I'll come off
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: my position when the evidence smacks me in the face
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: time and time and time again. But some of these guys,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: despite the evidence being there, they refused to actually even
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: remotely change their tune. And that's why we around these
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: parts got so defensive for so many years, is because dude,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: we can see through you, We will see your biases.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, it was that way. For me, it
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: was very simple. You're not watching the games. I mean,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: or maybe watching the games.
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: Okay, there are you know a lot of these national
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: types and I'll call them out and I don't care
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: if they think.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: You know, a lot of them have actually confronted me
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: on this. I don't care. You don't watch the games,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: and I don't blame you.
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: Many of you who live on the East coast the
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: Nuggets on Christmas Night, that game started at ten forty
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: five on these coast, just say you didn't watch.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Nobody don't blame you.
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, don't wake up the next day, and you didn't
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: watch Joker like we did. We we invested in it daily,
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: We saw it. So you don't know what I know.
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: I know more than you on the subject matter. Listen,
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: it's okay, I'm smarter than you on this certain subject matter.
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: I'm I'm better than you on this on this topic.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Accept it.
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just I also think what plays into this?
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: And he went to it because the NBA is like this.
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: Whenever you complement a current player, it always has to
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: be put in historical context for people, Oh if he's.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: So good, is he as good as Hakeem? It's like, oh,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I would You can give it a minute. Also,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: who cares? It's really good. I just feel like.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: I guess maybe this is boomer and me coming out.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: By the way, I'm not a boomer. I'm an exer.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Doesn't matter what people. People confuse opinion with.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Fact.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: It's okay to have an opinion to say I don't
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: even like this guy, but you can't deny the facts
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: that are presented in front of you. You can't hold
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: onto it and keep denying people just they back themselves
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: into a corner. And we have a real problem in
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: the society today where people they just can't admit that
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: they were wrong, or they can't move off a position
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: which might even be absolutely ridiculous and everybody can see it,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: but they refuse to move off it, and they pretend
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: like it's absolute fact, and you're like, what do you do.
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: I'll give you a perfect example. Here is an undisputable fact.
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: No one can like Jordan Bennington, not a single person
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: on Earth. It's impossible. And if you think otherwise, not
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: only it's not an opinion, you are factually incorrect.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: You think even.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Blues fans though they're they're they're they're faking it. They're
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: faking it. Okay, yeah, they're faking.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: It on a personal level. No way. Well it's just
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: but you know, you know what I mean, it's like people,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: it's and it doesn't apply just to sports. It's just life, man.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: People just they get they hole up in their bunker
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: and they refuse to move off, even though they probably
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: know they're wrong. And I'm sure that Nick Wright, even
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: two years ago probably looked at it and said, God,
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: this guy's damn good. But I had this position, and
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: I have to keep defending this position, continue to defend it.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Otherwise all look silly. Will Man, It's better just a
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: cut bait and admit you were wrong and move on.
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: When we return, Adam Schefter breaks down the weekend that
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: was in the NFL next