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Diogenes Club | E16 - Replace, Reclaim, Rebuild · Diogenes Club

• 0:37
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, what's going on y'all?
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Sick of this Shit Publications.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's the Diogenes Club.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm Nick Paro,
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  SPEAKER_01: not your dad,
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  SPEAKER_01: joined by Walter Rine,
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  SPEAKER_01: Protector of Labradors,
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  SPEAKER_01: Dr.
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  SPEAKER_01: Eric Lulove,
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  SPEAKER_01: Medical Editor at Blue Amp Media,
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  SPEAKER_01: and eventually when he decides to show up,
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  SPEAKER_01: Evan Fields,
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  SPEAKER_01: the mysterious man who is always late.
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  SPEAKER_01: But it's good to see you guys.
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  SPEAKER_01: How are you today?
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome, everyone, as you start coming on in.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes, welcome, everybody.
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  SPEAKER_03: Welcome, welcome.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_03: Good to see you.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to also start pulling up the show so I can see.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thursday, May 21st.
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  SPEAKER_03: That was before time.
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  SPEAKER_02: These months are just like flipping by.
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  SPEAKER_02: I just gauge my time by when I see Nick.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's just sort of like centers me.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's like, oh, it's Ben again.
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  SPEAKER_01: You got your Tuesdays and Thursdays and it's just centering.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's like, okay, that's some reality.
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  SPEAKER_02: Then I float.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then you float.
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  SPEAKER_01: Eric, you look stressed, my friend.
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  SPEAKER_01: What's going on, brother?
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  SPEAKER_03: It's been rough.
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  SPEAKER_03: We've had a rough family time at the house for a while.
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  SPEAKER_03: Ever since my grandmother passed, it's been a little rough.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's hard.
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  SPEAKER_01: How can we help you, man?
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  SPEAKER_03: Listen, I'm where I'm at.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thankfully, I have a very supportive wife.
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  SPEAKER_03: We're getting through it together.
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  SPEAKER_03: We're partners.
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  SPEAKER_03: This is what we do.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  then we drink I'm glad you have a partner that's with you and
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  then we drink and
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  then we drink and then we drink well just having it out in the
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  open it's like this
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  is the feelings we're having yeah that's so far ahead of the
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  game I mean it's just
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  like you just have to go through it and it's like I have
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  learned a lot of hard life
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  SPEAKER_03: lessons just in the last you know six months to a year that
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  SPEAKER_03: The people that you're supposed to rely on,
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  SPEAKER_03: the people that you think love you,
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  SPEAKER_03: sometimes don't.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it's a rough lesson to learn later in life.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's much easier to learn that in your 20s.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh gosh, I think it's a hard lesson.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I had that talk yesterday with Andrea Watkins.
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  SPEAKER_02: We've been talking about narcissistic abuse and it's just
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  There's something about the United States that indoctrinates us
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  to just chase after
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  SPEAKER_02: approval that's never going to come.
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  SPEAKER_03: It is rampant.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's this whole country.
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  It's funny how this has nothing to do with because of poopy
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  shit and pants sitting
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  SPEAKER_03: in the White House.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's what put him there.
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  When you start seeing patterns of behavior that are very
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  similar in pathology and
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  SPEAKER_03: sociopathic behavior,
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  SPEAKER_03: it's crazy when you start seeing it
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  in other people that you were like,
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  how did I miss this for the last 30 years?
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, really?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: I hope I don't express that when I'm with people.
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  I hope that's not the personality that's coming out when I'm
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  with someone.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, holy shit, really?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  Well,
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  we got to learn to stop chasing and start appreciating the love
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  around us.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's kind of the thing that,
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  SPEAKER_02: because people are always like,
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  SPEAKER_02: look in,
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  SPEAKER_02: when I'm a billionaire,
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  SPEAKER_02: everything will be fine,
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  SPEAKER_02: or down the road,
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  SPEAKER_02: or when I get,
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  SPEAKER_02: there are people that
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  SPEAKER_01: solves all the problems doesn't it yeah yeah I had a really interesting
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  conversation just before this with Ann Kramer who is a
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  psychologist and teaches
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  around the wholeness a wholeness model and I'm gonna have her
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  back and I'd love to
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  SPEAKER_01: have you guys
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  Part of the Discussion too because we're going to talk about
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  like connecting all
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  the pieces around it's it's talking about emotional
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  intelligence human like being a
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  good better human and how do we balance all these different
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  different aspects of
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  our life centered around a self hey Ann Kramer welcome to the
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  show we're just we're
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  SPEAKER_01: talking about you and and the the episode we just had together
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  SPEAKER_01: Speak of the devil and she shall appear.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just like Eric, speak of the devil and he appeared.
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  SPEAKER_01: Speak of the devil, Evan.
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  SPEAKER_01: Maybe you appear, brother.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're going to call you out, dude.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love calling you out.
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  SPEAKER_03: We just need to call Evan out.
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  SPEAKER_03: Just call him.
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  SPEAKER_03: Just call him.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, text blitz him.
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  I used to text blitz people where we'd get like 20 people and
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  I'll send them texts
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  SPEAKER_02: at the same time.
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  SPEAKER_02: I just thought that was funny.
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  SPEAKER_01: Where's Evan in my phone?
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
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  no you're right though and that was it was about finding like
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  the self and how you
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  can like we need moving past like at this work first mentality
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  because we're built
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  into a shame society like our society is built on this model of
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  shame where we
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  shame ourselves our self-speak is very shame based and very
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  harmful our like
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  expression of self-reflection is often based in this model of
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  shame and like
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  What did i do wrong why how why am i bad at this what did i
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  it's all it's and until
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  we break that model and i think we are i think we're making a
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  lot of strides at
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  least for ourselves and for our community is we're breaking
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  that model of shame but
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  we're also learning how to like i asked questions this morning
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  on how do i apply
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  what some of these things to myself right now that i could use
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  and they're not hard
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  SPEAKER_03: things yeah i just i
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  like I know I'm a really good person and I know I always mean
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  well and I and I and
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  I have a lot of love to give but I I mean like what's what I've
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  been going through
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  family wise it's just been like I just there are some days that
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  I just there are
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  just there's just that tank is empty yeah yeah you know what
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  it's hard to remember
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  at times to we can become so preoccupied and you just have to
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  turn and have
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  gratitude for the good things and I try to practice that like
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  you were saying you
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  SPEAKER_02: appreciate your wife is there to help you and just
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  I guess maybe when the times are really hard just take a moment
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  and say thank you
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  for being here and listen to me in this moment and that'll
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  instantly just make you
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  feel better but it's harder for me too while Nick's ordering a
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  pizza right now
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  assuming they respond right I mean like it's hard because I
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  have to like kind of
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  like put all this into a box and put it away to step outside my
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  office and then go
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  SPEAKER_03: take care of somebody with their problems and their issues who
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  they want me to completely narrow down focus so it's like I it
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  I mean imagine
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  imagine packing repacking unpacking repacking and unpacking and
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  repacking again
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  it's like yeah it it takes a toll emotionally yeah that's just
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  a lot of I'm just
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  I'm just glad that I'm a I have a very strong sense of self
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  that I have I you know
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  that I I've had my traumas that have allowed me to learn the
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  right coping skills
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  to learn how to balance and I just I just I feel bad for these
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  younger generations
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  who just for whatever reason lack the coping skills to deal
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  with confrontation yeah
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  well I don't think there's a whatever reason to be totally
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  honest I think it's just
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  SPEAKER_01: we've been trained to not learn how to cope
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  and well it's easier to go run for a pill and take a gummy and
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  go smoke a joint I
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  think it's social media toxic algorithms is a big part of it
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  where that's just kind
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  of rewired your brains where you're not told you can make your
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  own choices oh you
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  mean the same algorithm alter that we want people to smash the
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  hearts for our show
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  yep yep yeah we gotta break the we gotta figure out how to
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  break that algorithm
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  SPEAKER_02: we're trying to break the toxic part of it and actually show us
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  yeah like we were talking about this before the show and and
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  and I were talking
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  about this after the intelligent masculinity discussion better
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  humaning discussion
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  but also like with other folks in general we've all talked
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  about that a lot of us
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  have talked about this is we need our own platform we need a
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  tool that isn't owned
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  by billionaires and is actually something that is crowdfunded
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  and open source for
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  SPEAKER_01: us
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  and not algorithmically driven but the one problem is that
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  takes so much fucking
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  money and it takes a lot of time and effort and we are there
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  are so many people
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  SPEAKER_01: doing doing these things and building tools and hopefully we're all gonna
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  eventually find each other in the right moments and put the
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  tools together into one
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  SPEAKER_01: big thing um
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  SPEAKER_01: Joe, I don't know why chat participation doesn't help in the algorithm.
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  SPEAKER_01: I just saw that.
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  SPEAKER_01: We have such a lively chat.
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  SPEAKER_01: Those of us, you guys are so amazing in the community.
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  SPEAKER_01: We love having it.
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  I love having these discussions back and forth with you guys
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  when you ask.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love bringing folks on who are in our community,
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  just randomly grabbing folks out of the chat sometimes and
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  getting them to join.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Naito, you said a
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  Best is we need to just join forces rather than complain like
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  we can't complain
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  that we don't have the stuff we just have to join forces to
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  build the stuff and
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  SPEAKER_01: that's the hard part is I'm not complaining that it's expensive well I am
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  complaining it's fucking expensive it's made to be
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  prohibitively expensive for
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  SPEAKER_01: anyone who's not a billionaire to start making this shit
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  we just have to fight through it like I'm bootstrapping a tool
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  right now that's
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  cost that assuming I can finally get it all working this the
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  broadband or website
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  and all the tools behind it once I get it all working right now
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  the tool itself is
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  like 40 bucks a month to build and that's not a lot like I'm
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  able to bootstrap a
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  tool together for like 40 fucking bucks a month if I can start
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  getting a bunch of
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  SPEAKER_01: people onto it
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  and start you yeah but once I sell it it'll start costing a lot
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  more but or what
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  and I'm never gonna sell the tool to anybody else but once I
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  once it starts
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  becoming available to others it will start costing more than 40
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  bucks a month and
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  yeah that'll be something where we all start talking about how
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  do we crowdsource
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  SPEAKER_01: this together so that we pay for it so that everybody can
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  make something out of it and that's the model is collaboration
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  over competition
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  yeah it's brainstorming it's identifying the problems and
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  finding solutions right
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  yeah i mean i'm not going to call anybody out but you know
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  those of you that are
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  following there's business a little dust up the last couple
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  days with two of our
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  Substack creators yeah and i'm like there is no and i think i
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  just i had a simple
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  comment like there is no place for this right now this is this
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  is we should not be
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  SPEAKER_03: sniping at each other
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  Regardless of what you think It's not necessary It is
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  counterproductive to the
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  bigger prize of what we are all trying to accomplish over the
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  next six to eight
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  SPEAKER_02: months Yeah,
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  everybody's up to their eyeballs in stress and frustration So
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  we just have to give
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  SPEAKER_02: each other a little bit of space and grace Yeah,
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  SPEAKER_01: and I think we need to stop making our own problems Oh yeah Like
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  some of this and I know what you're talking about and yeah just
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  suck less well it's
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  by design too I mean there are nefarious forces putting us at
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  odds with each other
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  division is the tool of our it's the weapon of our enemy we all
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  know that yeah
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  division is the oppressor yeah well the enemy of our enemy is
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  still our enemy but
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  SPEAKER_01: they're just they're less our enemy
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  SPEAKER_01: That phrase always bothered me.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and we have our enemy as our Facebook friend.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is our MySpace top five friend.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well...
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  you know and I was just like the election integrity thing I've
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  been talking about
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  that and a couple people get mad I'm just like okay so you can
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  see that the
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  criminal regime absolutely everything they does is you know
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  just against the law
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  and against the constitution but you're just going to assume
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  they just never touch
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  elections that's that's what we're going with right now and I
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  just think it's odd
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  how so many people are so wound up on how they think about
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  certain things yeah so
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  SPEAKER_03: Denver Denver actually had a really good post in response to a lot of the
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  SPEAKER_03: conspiracy theories on why Massey lost okay
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  well they're not conspiracy theories they're just theories
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  they're just theories
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  let's just say that Massey at the end of the day his own record
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  is what did him in
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  SPEAKER_03: we don't know though there hasn't been an investigation I know Mr.
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  Conspiracy Theory in the upper right corner that's not a
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  conspiracy theory I think
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  we need to I do agree with Walter that we need to stop calling
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  them conspiracy
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  theories because that was a CIA internal thing to make us all
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  afraid of asking
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  SPEAKER_03: questions I mean you don't you know if it had been like
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  SPEAKER_03: My only pushback on that part is we are also forcing
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  our side into huge turnout in a non-presidential cycle too so
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  we have to expect
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  that the the right is going to do the same type of thing and
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  yeah but we can't make
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  assumptions no no no oh absolutely i think i think every
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  election should be
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  automatically audited yes yes automatic recounts for every
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  election hand count no
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  SPEAKER_01: matter what
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  I don't care because the safeguards shouldn't be optional they
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  shouldn't be there
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  as a oh you have to meet this minimum requirement of it's
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  within one point two six
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  seven five percent or now it's in pot it has to be less than pi
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  percentage of vote
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  differential divided by two plus three minus the charisma of
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  Elon Musk which is
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  SPEAKER_01: zero
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  Think about how much money they spent on that one congressional
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  campaign.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that was a primary.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we should get into that, too.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, were all the finance laws followed?
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  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_02: Was all that followed correctly?
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  SPEAKER_03: I do not care how much money they have in the bank.
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  SPEAKER_03: If you force them to spend $30 million on a primary, we're winning.
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  Oh yeah and I'm not mad that we're making them spend a shitload
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  of money on
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  primaries I'm not mad I do agree that we need to every election
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  should be recounted
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  automatically because then we could put a nail in the coffin of
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  these theories
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  SPEAKER_01: depending on what theories they are
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  and we could have an answer and that's what's important is the
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  guardrail itself the
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  guardrail is so fucking important like it's the idea of the
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  impeachments it's why I
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  fucking think we need to be using impeachment all the fucking
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  times because it is a
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  SPEAKER_01: stand it is the bare minimum guardrail
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  of High Crimes or Misdemeanors and they need to be recorded
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  individually recorded
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  maybe not by day because there's thousands of impeachable
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  offenses that have
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  SPEAKER_01: happened by this president and his administration and others
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  SPEAKER_01: That the Constitution demands of congressional members to do.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's it.
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  It Is Feasible It Is Easy To Do We Can Force Those Things And I
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  Think Because We
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  Are Starting To Have Conversations On Our Side That Are
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  Actually Meaningful About
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  Primaries And Forcing Primaries To Matter We're Forcing The
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  Right To Do The Same
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  But Spend Way More Money Doing It And I'm Okay If The Democrats
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  Spend A Boatload Of
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  SPEAKER_01: Money Too Against Our Primary Candidates
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  SPEAKER_01: Because if our primary candidates win, guess who wins?
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  SPEAKER_01: Us, the people.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because when the progressives fucking win, we go forward.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
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  SPEAKER_03: I just want to just double check in the chat,
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  SPEAKER_03: everybody,
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  if my level came up a little bit because Ginch had said my
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  level was about half.
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  SPEAKER_02: You sound good to me.
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  SPEAKER_03: Let me know if the sound quality is better.
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  SPEAKER_03: No, but look at what happened in Pennsylvania.
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  SPEAKER_03: They spent a ton of money and
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  Rest Red I mean I think it was like what's his raps I think
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  raps you know wound up
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  winning didn't get a full plan he got 40 something percent but
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  you know he he still
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  SPEAKER_01: won well and my and my issue too is Gingy says up more up more for years
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  SPEAKER_02: And my issue,
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  SPEAKER_02: too,
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  SPEAKER_02: is when we have reasonable questions,
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_02: people shouldn't yell at us for having reasonable questions.
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  SPEAKER_02: We should have an answer.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's like, this is my question about this.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, you shouldn't even be asking that.
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  SPEAKER_02: You're sounding like a conspiracy theorist.
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  SPEAKER_02: None of that's acceptable.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's like...
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  No,
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  let's have a reasonable,
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  rational academic response to these anomalies that we're
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  seeing.
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  And there's a lot of election experts who have been sounding
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  the alarm on a lot of
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  SPEAKER_02: different things.
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  SPEAKER_02: Election interference isn't just one thing.
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  SPEAKER_02: There were bomb threats in 2020.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_02: in 2024.
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  SPEAKER_02: Did we ever investigate that?
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  SPEAKER_02: Who was responsible for those bomb threats?
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_02: And if there has been a bomb threat,
• 18:17
  you should be recounting every ballot in the district where the
• 18:20
  bomb threat was
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_02: called in.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_02: It's not just like, oh, we think we handled that.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_02: Let's move on.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_02: And that's the issue.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_02: They've been pushing us to just accept these results.
• 18:28
  We deserve to have a reasonable inquiry to make sure the
• 18:31
  elections are valid.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_02: And we need the DNC to come along with that.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_02: You know,
• 18:35
  and not just acting like the DNC treats election integrity the
• 18:39
  same way the GOP
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_02: treats climate change is what I wrote today.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_02: Denial is not a strategy.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_02: It's a real thing.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_02: We have to take it seriously.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and absolutely.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like the idea that groups in the progressive community,
• 18:57
  Left Is Just As Culpable For Racism And Bigotry As The Right Is
• 19:03
  And There Is Very
• 19:04
  Little Difference For A Lot Of People And I Will Not Deny That
• 19:08
  Like I've Met
• 19:09
  Natasha Kay I've Met You Naida I've Met Plenty Of Folks Who
• 19:14
  Were And I've Seen
• 19:16
  Plenty Of Other Folks Like Kassam Rashid Who I've Spoken To Or
• 19:19
  Wajahad Ali Folks
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_01: Like That All
• 19:23
  has said the same thing about how racist the Democratic Party
• 19:28
  is as a group.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_02: Well, the Democratic Party is conservative.
• 19:31
  What I always say is we don't have any left representation in
• 19:34
  the United States.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_02: We have only conservative representation in this country.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_02: It's been that way for a long time.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_02: It's been a representative oligarchy.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_01: And those bomb threats were initially reported to be tied to Russia.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_01: And how the fuck did we not
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_01: I'm
• 20:11
  I hate to bring up everybody's you know colonic health here but
• 20:18
  we really this
• 20:19
  whole country needs like literally like an enema seriously like
• 20:23
  we need like you
• 20:24
  know was it was the line from Batman with Jack Nichols in this
• 20:28
  town needs an enema
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_03: like our country needs an enema
• 20:32
  Like badly Like we just There's a lot of toxic shit Right now
• 20:37
  And we have to get
• 20:38
  the toxic shit Out of body It's just Sorry everybody I just
• 20:43
  That's I just I wrote a
• 20:45
  poem a long time ago Or a while ago That was We need to excise
• 20:49
  the wound Like we
• 20:50
  need to absize And excise this wound Because it's cancer There
• 20:53
  is dead tissue in
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_03: the wound And it's not going to heal
• 20:55
  yeah and it's actively rotting the tissue around it and it's
• 20:59
  spreading to rot more
• 21:01
  and if we do not get rid of the cancer like we have to get rid
• 21:07
  of this wound we
• 21:09
  have to it's it's necrotic it's fucking killing us guys how
• 21:13
  about that I'm a wound
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: healer yeah like we were talking like I was talking with um
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, was it?
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_01: It may have been Salam Bhatti yesterday when I was speaking with him,
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: the congressional candidate.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_01: One of the Courage for Democracy candidates running for Virginia won.
• 21:37
  running against another Courage Democracy candidate in the
• 21:39
  primary Erica Kopp also
• 21:41
  for Virginia one both are incredible I wish them both the best
• 21:45
  of luck and I hope
• 21:46
  whoever wins the other one joins their team because I think
• 21:50
  they would be a
• 21:50
  fantastic combination of super intelligent people so best of
• 21:55
  luck to either one of
• 21:56
  them but Salam was talking about it yesterday was like I think
• 22:01
  it was Salam was
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: like Jason Kander
• 22:06
  um a lot of people know who Jason Kander is he's uh he talks
• 22:10
  he's a host on Midas
• 22:12
  Touch now with the uh majority 54 um he's a he was a rising
• 22:19
  star in the Democratic
• 22:20
  Party and was on their trajectory to be like the next Obama
• 22:26
  type figure for a
• 22:27
  presidential candidate um he's also an Iraq war veteran and he
• 22:33
  does a ton of stuff
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_01: around
• 22:36
  the VA and Veterans Health he should be the next VA head of the
• 22:40
  VA Eric you should
• 22:41
  be the next HHS like maybe not HHS but you should be someone in
• 22:45
  the administration
• 22:46
  who knows what the fuck they're doing and talking about it we
• 22:49
  have a parade of
• 22:51
  deplorables and a parade of horribles who don't know what the
• 22:54
  fuck they're doing
• 22:56
  and all they want to do is spread rage culture and WWE or
• 23:01
  whatever MMA on the White
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: House lawn and shit like that
• 23:05
  Well we were talking before about how the first thing that the
• 23:08
  administration did
• 23:09
  was get rid of the pandemic response team and then they told
• 23:11
  people not to do masks
• 23:13
  and not to and it's like they did everything they needed to do
• 23:16
  to ensure a pandemic
• 23:18
  and like we were talking about this history with Bob Dana where
• 23:20
  they're like
• 23:21
  Nick Paro Nick Paro Nick Paro Nick Paro Nick Paro Nick Paro
• 23:23
  Nick Paro Nick Paro
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_02: Nick Paro Nick Paro Nick Paro Nick
• 23:51
  again like Walter mentioned we don't the first thing Trump did
• 23:54
  he did in the first
• 23:56
  term he did too he wiped out the pandemic response unit and by
• 24:00
  doing that not only
• 24:01
  this time around wiped out all the funding for any particular
• 24:05
  fast tracking of God
• 24:07
  forbid we do have a pandemic in need of accident in need of
• 24:09
  accident I mean this is
• 24:12
  this is the point where good governance okay is literally like
• 24:19
  a prerequisite job
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_03: requirement
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_03: Like knowing what the hell to touch and not touch.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_03: Like you want to start cutting programs that don't make sense.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_03: Fine.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_03: Or it's wasteful fat products or wasteful pork projects.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_03: But pandemic response, public health, national security issues.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, everybody.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_03: How many times have I said this?
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_03: Like our national our public health is a national security pillar.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_03: Literally top pillar guys.
• 24:46
  I mean,
• 24:47
  they have wiped out that one of the one of our pillars of our
• 24:50
  national security.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_03: because Maha was not about making America healthy again.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_03: Well, they killed a million people.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_03: It never was.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_03: It was the other lie.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_03: It was one of the other big lies they told about the election.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_03: The first one being stolen.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_03: The other one is, oh, we can make America healthy again.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_03: No, you don't.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_03: You want to make America sick, dumb, and broke.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_02: Well,
• 25:11
  I think they want us all dead so they can automate things with
• 25:14
  their AI technology
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_02: because they see paying workers as a huge expense.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, is that
• 25:19
  that's true that's the yarvian philosophy is now they brought
• 25:22
  you back in health
• 25:24
  and human services mm-hmm yeah like because that worked out 30s
• 25:28
  and 40s for
• 25:28
  everybody remember yeah yeah that worked out so well for so
• 25:32
  many people I'm like
• 25:34
  there's there's all these concentration camps in Germany that
• 25:38
  are still that get
• 25:40
  visited and there's a ton of memorial sites around the last
• 25:44
  time eugenics was a big
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_01: thing
• 25:47
  maybe we should fucking go back to that or you know the under
• 25:51
  babied thing and
• 25:53
  bullshit like somehow we're under babied but we're not under
• 25:57
  cared for in this
• 25:59
  country like fuck off Doc Oz you're a you're a pronatalist
• 26:05
  asshole and all you care
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_01: about is birth
• 26:09
  But You Don't Give A Shit About Anything Else Well This Is
• 26:11
  Their Replacements
• 26:12
  Theory Bullshit I Mean That's Extreme Right Wing Hate Ideology
• 26:17
  As Much As It Could
• 26:17
  Possibly Be And It's Just The Stupid That The People The 30%
• 26:21
  That Are Still
• 26:23
  Following The Culture Award Fear Mongering Believe Have Drunk
• 26:28
  The Kool-Aid Injected
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_03: The Heroin Snorted The Coke Smoked The Joint
• 26:35
  you know this this 30% they are never they are so baked into
• 26:41
  their personalities
• 26:42
  that this is who they are yeah to try to even I mean and the
• 26:47
  psychologists in our
• 26:48
  chat will probably even say and agree that once it's embedded
• 26:52
  like this it's they
• 26:55
  are the only way they you only way you're gonna get rid of them
• 26:57
  is for them to
• 26:58
  literally leave the planet because they will never change
• 27:01
  because that would mean
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_03: admitting to themselves
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_03: that they have to change.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_03: And that's never going to happen.
• 27:08
  There is a percentage of this population of our 330 million
• 27:12
  people,
• 27:12
  180 million people who vote.
• 27:15
  There are 60 million people out there that are literally in the
• 27:20
  rabbit hole,
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_03: smoking all the shit,
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_03: believing the lies.
• 27:26
  Well,
• 27:27
  literally,
• 27:27
  he's got his private army,
• 27:29
  by the way,
• 27:29
  and it's 60 million people.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_02: My concern is always that children's rights,
• 27:35
  because we were saying it's like they indoctrinate kids by
• 27:38
  abuse in childhood.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_02: Our whole nation,
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_02: our traditions,
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_02: our venerated traditions are all child abuse in this country,
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_02: because we don't see children as people.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_02: And when that needs to change.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_02: You guys, what's your toys?
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_01: I've got the brain worm from RFK that didn't finish its job.
• 27:55
  this is pre this is pre morphing into Stephen Miller and
• 27:59
  turning into a worm of a
• 28:00
  human being this is the little brain worm that came out I wish
• 28:04
  he had finished the
• 28:04
  job um but he didn't um and now we're stuck with a eugenicist
• 28:09
  who has half a
• 28:10
  fucking brain wow you and your light effects and yeah I trust
• 28:15
  the I trust the worm
• 28:16
  more than him the not not the Stephen Miller worm but the but
• 28:20
  the actual brain worm
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_02: more than him like I
• 28:24
  I just think that it's there's so much going on with this maha
• 28:28
  movement that isn't
• 28:30
  being spoken about and I honestly think if your policies are to
• 28:35
  kill humans and it
• 28:37
  starts killing people you should be held culpable for murder if
• 28:42
  your policies are
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_01: directly linked to murdering people remember how we held
• 28:48
  Hitler and the Nazis accountable for murdering people during
• 28:53
  the Holocaust that happened.
• 28:57
  Remember how we need to hold leaders accountable or their
• 29:00
  minions continue to do the things?
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_01: We have done it
• 29:06
  in the past we have in the past held people accountable for
• 29:12
  these exact things
• 29:14
  maha's not a grift we need to stop using grift grift under
• 29:19
  values what they're
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_01: actually doing maha is eugenicists maha is a eugenist policy
• 29:28
  Maha is about eugenicism and it's about kill is a eugenics idea
• 29:34
  to kill off two
• 29:35
  thirds of the American population and others around the world
• 29:39
  because we are
• 29:40
  overpopulated according to the Yarvian philosophy that there
• 29:43
  can only be 100
• 29:44
  million people in the US we have 344 340 something million
• 29:48
  which means about 240
• 29:51
  million of us need to die that is eugenics and we are the ones
• 29:56
  not invited to the
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_03: party nope
• 29:58
  nope well there's no fertilizer for food there's no hospitals
• 30:03
  they're allowing
• 30:03
  pandemics i mean there's a lot and they're they got their
• 30:05
  concentration camps in
• 30:06
  their secret i do have a trivia question for for both of you
• 30:11
  what mammal has
• 30:22
  The reason why I brought that up,
• 30:23
  I didn't mean to change the subject on everybody.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_03: Walter wrote this amazing piece the other day.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_03: Really wrote this amazing piece on the legend of the blue whale.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_03: And I really encourage everybody to not just read it,
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_03: but listen to the audio because Walter narrates it.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_03: And it is such a phenomenal piece of work, Walter.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, thank you.
• 30:48
  it was really honestly from from i know we're friends and we're
• 30:53
  colleagues and
• 30:54
  we're brothers but you know what you created a piece of art
• 30:57
  thank you i wanted to
• 30:59
  be the one to tell you that because it was it was just
• 31:01
  brilliant i appreciate i got
• 31:03
  your message about that i felt so good and it kind of came out
• 31:06
  because after one of
• 31:07
  these talks when nick and i were all stressed i kind of
• 31:09
  remember that story and i
• 31:10
  told it to nick real quick and we just laughed till we cried
• 31:13
  and like for like two
• 31:13
  minutes like i gotta write it it was just one of these it was
• 31:15
  off camera it was
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_02: just this little
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_02: Just laughing and it's like, okay, I gotta share this.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_02: I've had so many nice comments on that story too.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_02: It's a little inappropriate, but it's funny.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_02: It's juvenile.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_01: We're R-rated.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_00: We have to allow ourselves to be inappropriate when we need to be.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_02: Melissa Corrigan shared it.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_01: Melissa's response to giant laughing emoji was just the best.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_02: It's funny.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_01: That's so refreshing.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_01: I was trying to see if I had the picture of the blue wheel.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_03: I really encourage everybody in the chat.
• 31:47
  i really encourage everybody in the chat to look at walter's
• 31:50
  profile and find the
• 31:52
  find the story and just listen to it because it's hey nerds hey
• 31:59
  do you know i was
• 32:00
  having technical difficulties i was trying to get the computer
• 32:03
  to work and i
• 32:04
  apologize we have a question in the chat for eric there's been
• 32:09
  a question i i see a
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_01: hand holding up we'll have to wait for the question to come in for
• 32:14
  Ashley from Ashley here yes I see you Ashley what's up man I
• 32:20
  called you you didn't
• 32:23
  even answer my call bro I know I apologize I was in the other
• 32:27
  room trying to get it
• 32:28
  to work and I know I'm here I figured I'd jump on here before
• 32:38
  before anything that
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_00: it would work better to just jump on than call back or something
• 32:43
  you look just like your profile pic i'm just gonna have to say
• 32:46
  that the one my
• 32:48
  daughter said yeah i was so excited about that dude i love that
• 32:51
  so much i'm gonna
• 32:53
  like cherish that forever i have it like on my instagram i
• 32:57
  showed it to my parents
• 32:59
  i love it yeah that's just something that makes you happy you
• 33:03
  know what i mean
• 33:04
  yeah i saw i'm so happy when she gives me one of those i'm just
• 33:06
  like even if i
• 33:08
  don't get to see your joy directly i feel it when i send the
• 33:11
  message i'm like this
• 33:11
  is gonna make his day that's great man i love it how are you
• 33:18
  guys doing dude i've
• 33:19
  been watching the um congressional candidate interviews and
• 33:23
  everything who are you
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_00: guys excited about
• 33:26
  all of them aren't they so good i mean these like progressive
• 33:28
  candidates that are
• 33:29
  just like real people with edge and like the women that's like
• 33:32
  i was saying the
• 33:33
  ones that don't use any mansplaining that was my article from
• 33:36
  the other day we got
• 33:36
  to get mansplaining out of politics yeah and it's like once
• 33:39
  you're out of that
• 33:39
  atmosphere it's like holy shit it's like nobody's just trying
• 33:42
  to bully through a
• 33:43
  point because they can't defend themselves the ladies are just
• 33:46
  like this and this
• 33:47
  academic response this will work then we'll do this not taking
• 33:50
  any shit i'm just
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_02: like
• 33:52
  I will step aside and do everything I can to lift you up
• 33:55
  because this is what we
• 33:56
  need yeah yeah I'm having a hard time deciding who is any
• 34:01
  better than the other
• 34:02
  because they're all really good like I I have been fortunate
• 34:07
  though now and Walter
• 34:08
  has been fortunate too is we have both interviewed both of the
• 34:13
  courage for
• 34:13
  democracy candidates for VA one for Virginia CD one dude that
• 34:17
  was a great live
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_00: yesterday
• 34:19
  thanks he was he's so he's so intelligent and ideas we got to
• 34:25
  talk about around
• 34:27
  like basic universal basic income and funding sources plus like
• 34:32
  AI I'm excited to
• 34:34
  to talk to him more about that but also his like views on
• 34:37
  disability action and his
• 34:39
  support for the VA community the veterans community and the
• 34:43
  disability community is
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_01: really amazing and then on the flip side you have Erica Kopp
• 34:48
  who is also very supportive of disability rights in the
• 34:51
  disability community and
• 34:56
  she was so incredible to talk to and her ideas were just so
• 35:00
  straightforward
• 35:01
  and we got to have her talk with Ellie Leonard for a little bit
• 35:06
  and Abel Chavez
• 35:07
  who's not a Courage for Democracy candidate but should be he's
• 35:12
  not listed on there
• 35:13
  yet I don't know if he is yet but he's incredible we've talked
• 35:18
  to him a couple
• 35:18
  times and man they're just all so these progressive candidates
• 35:23
  are just smart
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_01: because they're listening to people
• 35:27
  Yeah I mean I had Victoria Doyle on last week for she's running
• 35:30
  against Lois
• 35:31
  Frankel in Palm Beach County and then Tuesday I had John
• 35:34
  Lisione from Florida 13 in
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_03: Pinellas County outside just north of St.
• 35:38
  Petersburg in Tampa and I'm actually working on a schedule
• 35:42
  right now to get Nicole
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_03: Laughlin on she's running in Florida 26
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_03: and she's a she's another young progressive.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_03: She's 26 years,
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_03: 27 years old,
• 35:52
  lawyer running against Mario Dallar who just basically screwed
• 35:56
  his entire district.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_03: And then don't forget,
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_03: guys,
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_03: Lev's running in Florida 25,
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_03: which is now Florida 20,
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_03: yeah,
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_03: Florida 25 to unseat Maria Salazar.
• 36:07
  And and John Licianni is running against hopefully to unseat
• 36:10
  Anna Paulina Luna,
• 36:11
  who's they pretty much sheltered her with this redistricting
• 36:15
  because she should be
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_03: in prison.
• 36:17
  This We're Talking About A Florida Representative That Was
• 36:20
  Literally Marching
• 36:22
  Chinese Duma Representatives And Legislators Through The
• 36:26
  Congress In Restricted Are
• 36:30
  And Has Been A Foreign Agent For The Chinese Government Is Not
• 36:34
  Registered As A US
• 36:36
  Congressperson So They've Been Insulating Her And This This
• 36:39
  Goes Back 30 Years In
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_03: Florida With The Politics Down Here Like This Is 30 Years Of Of
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_03: Misogynistic Plutocracy Male White Superiority Listen,
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_03: I'm Ground Zero for the Epstein Files,
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_03: guys.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_03: This is where it happened, right?
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_03: Country Club Bullshit.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_03: You had the Bush family in power.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_03: Then you had Rick Scott and then Ron DeSantis.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_03: You had, we had, you know, Pam Pondy as the Attorney General.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, you had DeSantis was a congressperson.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_03: Louis Frankel was the mayor of West Palm Beach.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_03: Not Palm Beach, but West Palm Beach.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_03: That's where Trump is, right?
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_03: I mean,
• 37:20
  it is It has just been a pool of fucking shitbag motherfuckers
• 37:26
  down here who have
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_03: done nothing against women and people and they continue and it's like,
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_03: it's just there's been no accountability at all.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, come on down to Florida.
• 37:40
  You can live your life down here and,
• 37:41
  you know,
• 37:42
  no accountability whatsoever.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_03: It's the wildest.
• 37:44
  yeah you guys are the real wild west out there so even more so
• 37:48
  than texas it seems
• 37:49
  like now well and like i i also got to speak to eric terwey
• 37:56
  who's running for oh
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_01: good oklahoma 2 which is
• 38:02
  which is the district I think it's Oklahoma to make sure yeah
• 38:05
  Oklahoma to which is
• 38:07
  the district that actually butts up against one of my district
• 38:10
  here in Arkansas and
• 38:11
  my candidate is also a courage for democracy candidate so I
• 38:15
  want to get him on
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_01: because he's
• 38:18
  Steve Womack and Steve Womack's a piece of shit who doesn't
• 38:20
  fucking do anything and
• 38:22
  all he does is just go to Congress and make money and doesn't
• 38:25
  fucking care about
• 38:26
  Arkansas because he hasn't fucking been here in years and all
• 38:30
  he wants to do is sit
• 38:31
  on his fucking high horse and live his pretentious ass life and
• 38:35
  fuck you Steve
• 38:36
  Womack you're protecting predators and child molesters and
• 38:40
  pedophiles and I'm still
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_01: waiting on or I'm still deciding and trying to figure out if I can
• 38:48
  or how to do it is get billboards up in the area that just say
• 38:52
  Steve Womack is
• 38:53
  protecting pedophiles because he is like they would do it to us
• 38:59
  they would do it to
• 39:00
  our candidates why can't we fucking do it back yeah they don't
• 39:04
  care I want to shame
• 39:05
  him at home where his church members are going to see it where
• 39:09
  his community where
• 39:10
  his neighbors are going to see it so that they call him and ask
• 39:15
  why are you
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_01: protecting a pedophile
• 39:16
  yeah because even most people are still gonna go that's gross
• 39:21
  I've thought about
• 39:22
  that protesting at churches I think that might be a good I mean
• 39:25
  we do have to start
• 39:26
  taking this fight to where not just on social media that's
• 39:28
  captured by nefarious
• 39:29
  sources but I mean all these millionaires all these Republicans
• 39:33
  they own businesses
• 39:34
  and stuff in your area it's like they shouldn't be
• 39:37
  unaccountable for all the things
• 39:38
  I mean lawfully and legally and peacefully but they should have
• 39:42
  to be feel a little
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_02: pressure for these things they're supporting absolutely
• 39:47
  I put it out the just a little while ago right before we
• 39:50
  started our show is we all
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_01: need to be talking about
• 39:53
  extremist Christianity in the same ways we talk about other
• 39:57
  religious extremists
• 39:58
  and you can fill in for that Christianity you can also put in
• 40:01
  Jewish extremism you
• 40:03
  can put in Islamic extremism whatever extremism you want but
• 40:08
  right now Christian
• 40:09
  extremism needs to be talked about the same way as others which
• 40:12
  is their religious
• 40:13
  schools are radicalization centers and their religious summer
• 40:17
  camps are training
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_01: grounds
• 40:19
  And We Need To Be Fucking Talking About That We Need To Be
• 40:22
  Saying That And We Don'T
• 40:23
  Ever Fucking Talk About It That Way So Here'S A Really Good
• 40:26
  Question I Want To Ask
• 40:27
  You Guys Okay Now We Know Throughout Human History That More
• 40:31
  People Have Died In
• 40:32
  The Name Of God Than Disease And Pestilence And Right Crusades
• 40:40
  Over The Years And
• 40:41
  We Go Through Human History Which Religion Or Which Sect Of
• 40:45
  Religion Has Killed
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_03: More People In The Name Of Their God
• 40:49
  it's not even close not even a little bit let's ask the native
• 40:56
  american tribes in
• 40:57
  utah the first first nations people who were in the west before
• 41:03
  the mormons spread
• 41:05
  don't forget the spanish genocide in america ask the aztecs and
• 41:12
  the incas about the
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_03: spanish
• 41:17
  yeah my high school in California our mascot was the
• 41:20
  conquistadors it's real they
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_00: fucking yeah Nick I was gonna tell you go ahead
• 41:33
  No,
• 41:33
  I was just going to say because you were talking about the
• 41:35
  congressional candidates.
• 41:39
  I wanted to make sure that everybody understood that this isn't
• 41:42
  just relegated to
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_03: what we've done here in the U.S.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_03: if they want to.
• 41:50
  This Is Their History This Is The History Of The Church If They
• 41:54
  Want To Bring
• 41:54
  Religion Into Schools This Is A Way To Do It Let's Talk About
• 41:57
  The Crimes They
• 41:58
  Committed You Know The Abuses Those Laundries They Used To You
• 42:02
  Know The Women That
• 42:02
  Were Abused In These Facilities The Child Rape Cover Ups Of
• 42:06
  Religion It'S Ugly But
• 42:09
  Let'S Not Caveat This Because There Are A Lot Of People Who Are
• 42:13
  Christian That Are
• 42:15
  Very God-fearing Who are peaceful Who follow the Bible Who
• 42:21
  follow the scriptures
• 42:22
  Who follow the writings of Jesus Right So we should I don't
• 42:27
  want to I don't want to
• 42:27
  lump everybody into the same boat here Being Christian or
• 42:30
  Jewish Well that's like
• 42:32
  people That's like people Like Tim Whitaker And like April Ajoy
• 42:37
  They do like the
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_00: new evangelicals And everything And I was telling somebody yesterday Like
• 42:45
  I have no issue with like people that are Christians and
• 42:49
  practice the Word of God
• 42:50
  and like actually use the Bible and practice charity and taking
• 42:55
  care of others and
• 42:56
  being kind and everything but it's this like American jihad of
• 43:02
  like riding around
• 43:04
  in their lifted trucks and being hateful and saying oh I go to
• 43:08
  church on Sundays
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_00: and I'm a Christian but fuck you you know what I mean like it's just
• 43:13
  so hypocritical and ass backwards that I hate that people don't
• 43:18
  call it out yeah it
• 43:19
  can't be off limits and we have too many things in the United
• 43:22
  States that are like
• 43:22
  discussion topics that are just off limits that are reasonable
• 43:25
  things to talk about
• 43:26
  here are the receipts let's discuss this oh you used a word I
• 43:30
  don't like so now
• 43:31
  you're right it's like no let's walk through this and find
• 43:34
  agreement and fix the
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_02: problem and save people save humanity we lost him
• 43:41
  he's back I want to comment too there was a comment in the chat
• 43:44
  of Eric then don't
• 43:45
  lump all drug use as a Maha issue I don't think Eric ever
• 43:50
  actually lumped all drug
• 43:51
  use as a Maha issue he used examples of drugs as part of the
• 43:59
  culture that Maha
• 44:00
  promotes but I don't distinctly remember him ever saying all
• 44:05
  drug use is Maha and I
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_01: think
• 44:09
  Eric would disagree to that statement that all drug use is maha
• 44:13
  because no no I was
• 44:15
  just saying that they bought the kool-aid it was the the
• 44:17
  equivalent of smoking the
• 44:19
  heroin and and starting the coke and doing the kool-aid it was
• 44:22
  an analogy not not
• 44:25
  advocating for drug use oh I bet you they're doing all the
• 44:29
  fucking ketamine and
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_00: everything
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_01: I mean,
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_01: you look at the history of World War II as well,
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_01: like the use of heavy,
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_01: heavy illicit drugs in Germany was through the roof.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_00: Fucking marching powder.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_01: They did heavy-ass drugs.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_03: Hi, the Tuskegee.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_03: What did we do in Tuskegee?
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_03: Hello?
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_01: Eric, did you ever hear that?
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_02: We did it for our own soldiers.
• 44:58
  Have you ever read this study though where it's like drug use
• 45:00
  if you have a system
• 45:02
  of actual support like the drug use is much more easily managed
• 45:06
  like if you come
• 45:07
  back to a place like the United States where it's just like
• 45:09
  you're on your own fuck
• 45:10
  yeah it's like then drug use is an issue but if you go into
• 45:13
  places I remember some
• 45:15
  study about this where they went to places where it's like
• 45:18
  you're taking the drugs
• 45:19
  just to survive a horrible situation but then you get back
• 45:21
  where you're actually
• 45:22
  feeling loved and supported and it's like addiction then just
• 45:25
  kind of takes care of
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_02: itself
• 45:27
  oh that would be mental health care self-care things that we're
• 45:35
  not allowed to do
• 45:36
  here in america because all we're allowed to do is be rage
• 45:39
  filled and hate
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_01: ourselves
• 45:42
  And yet we need to talk about Christian nationalism We have to
• 45:46
  talk about this shit
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_01: in the same language as we do the others And yes,
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_01: I really value Evan,
• 45:53
  I want to get back to your question because I thought you had a
• 45:54
  question you wanted
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_01: to ask I really value what Tim Whitaker and April A.
• 46:00
  Joy and folks like that are doing They're the exception to the
• 46:04
  rule because the
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_01: dominant form of Christianity through history has been violent
• 46:12
  has been incredibly violent and it's okay to say that just like
• 46:19
  American history is
• 46:21
  incredibly violent they're intrinsically tied together at times
• 46:26
  because the spread
• 46:26
  of Christianity in America was manifest destiny and that's what
• 46:32
  brought about the
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_01: Mormons spreading and a genocide
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_01: Religion needs to take a backseat for a little while,
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_01: in my opinion,
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_01: and let the rest of the world do its stuff.
• 46:43
  Like,
• 46:44
  let the rest of humanity grow because the history of religion
• 46:49
  is violence.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_01: And I'll say that for most religions, not just Christianity.
• 46:54
  Like,
• 46:54
  the history of religion,
• 46:56
  especially monotheistic religions,
• 46:58
  is pretty violent.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 47:00
  Any Good Idea Is Always Going To Be Corrupted By You Know
• 47:03
  People That Want To
• 47:04
  Exploit Others So You Say It's A Defilement Of The Good Beliefs
• 47:08
  And Then The People
• 47:08
  That Are Truly Practicing Trying To Be True To The Beliefs
• 47:11
  Should Come To Your Side
• 47:12
  It's The Same As It's Like Men Need To Get Their Shit Together
• 47:16
  You Say This As A
• 47:17
  Man It's Because You Know I Want To Join With Other Good Men To
• 47:20
  Fix The Problems
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_02: With The Toxic Men Hi Buddy
• 47:23
  I also think that religion,
• 47:25
  Chris,
• 47:25
  you put a good comment and it's religion is like a penis.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_01: It's perfectly fine to have one to have and take pride in it.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_01: But when one takes it out and waves it in my face, we have a problem.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, Evan's got to run.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_01: All right, Evan, you had a question, dude.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, you're good.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_00: I've just I've got a couple of minutes,
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_00: but I just wanted to make a couple of quick points before I go,
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_00: I guess.
• 47:50
  You guys talked about the whole drug use and everything and how
• 47:55
  it's almost like
• 47:55
  you need support and all that and I that is one of the biggest
• 48:00
  things that drives
• 48:01
  me crazy about treatment and things like that because I had a
• 48:06
  horrible drinking
• 48:07
  problem when I was in the army and people don't make it out of
• 48:12
  stuff like that
• 48:13
  unless they have a support system you know what I mean so it's
• 48:15
  the biggest thing to
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_00: get people treatment and get them help and everything because
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody wants to be just fucked up and depressed all the time.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 48:25
  So if we could have some compassion for people and get them
• 48:28
  into treatment and stuff.
• 48:30
  But the other thing that I was going to say,
• 48:32
  it was about the congressional candidates.
• 48:33
  And it was just like a real quick thing that I had reached out
• 48:38
  because you know how
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_00: I've been having issues with the computer and everything,
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_00: and I haven't been able to do it,
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_00: but I reached out to a couple of candidates here in CO5.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_00: that I will forward you guys their information and everything.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_00: Sarah Killen is one of them.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_00: I think she was a former school administrator.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_00: She's really great.
• 48:58
  And we've got fucking Jeff Crank out here and he's like a big
• 49:03
  time Trump supporter,
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_00: big time anti-abortion advocate and everything.
• 49:09
  So I'll put you guys in contact with them so that at least
• 49:13
  somebody can get them
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_00: out there and everything.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_00: Perfect.
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I was also...
• 49:18
  um by shared a resource with Walter um with a directory that we
• 49:24
  can all work on to
• 49:26
  contact folks out of that are part of campaigns and and yeah
• 49:30
  systems um because we
• 49:32
  should all be doing it yeah I think that's really important
• 49:34
  it's like it's our job
• 49:35
  right now to interview candidates it's our job right now to get
• 49:39
  as many candidates
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_01: out there as possible
• 49:42
  and to get these views out there and their talking points and
• 49:45
  yeah I know the
• 49:47
  statements I'm making at least around religion could be kind of
• 49:52
  controversial and
• 49:52
  may push some people away and I don't apologize for my view on
• 49:58
  this because I think
• 50:00
  religion is good religion is good well they can forgive us our
• 50:04
  trespasses right
• 50:05
  they can forgive us our trespasses against their religion
• 50:08
  that's kind of what they
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_02: preach
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_01: Also,
• 50:10
  if your religion brings positivity and grounds you and offers
• 50:15
  you strength and
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_01: isn't manipulating you into being a hate-filled rage monster,
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_01: I have no problem with it.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't have problem with people's religion.
• 50:27
  I think it needs to take a backseat because it has become so
• 50:30
  confrontational towards everybody.
• 50:34
  And it's hurting people Especially white Christian nationalism
• 50:38
  But it's hurting
• 50:39
  people And it's It's hurting people There's no I think in that
• 50:45
  statement I know
• 50:47
  it's hurting children The largest purveyor Of child sex abuse
• 50:51
  Are the churches Time
• 50:55
  to start talking We need to fucking talk about these things
• 50:58
  It's not all churches
• 51:00
  It's not all churches We've been very open about that Not all
• 51:04
  churches Evan love
• 51:05
  you too brother Bye guys I love you I'll talk to you soon
• 51:09
  Alright take care guys
• 51:10
  Bye Evan It's not all churches But it's too many of them And
• 51:17
  it's just like It's
• 51:18
  not all men But it's enough of us That you can't trust which
• 51:22
  ones are good And
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_01: which ones are bad
• 51:25
  it's the same thing with church right now it's the same thing
• 51:28
  with religion I
• 51:29
  cannot trust that your religion is good until it's been proven
• 51:32
  yeah show me yeah
• 51:34
  let's see those good ads there's a there's a lot I was looking
• 51:37
  through the chat
• 51:38
  that's why I was kind of a little quiet I was trying to get
• 51:40
  caught up with some of
• 51:41
  the things that people were saying and and I really appreciate
• 51:44
  everybody's comments
• 51:45
  in the chat and I whether you are have agree with us disagree
• 51:49
  with us we want you
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_03: to we want you to put stuff in the chat we want you to engage
• 51:55
  We're always not going to agree on everything as much as we
• 51:59
  know here's the thing
• 52:01
  with religion okay I'm not trying to be dogmatic I'm not trying
• 52:06
  to be whatever word
• 52:10
  you want to call it like kind of in the space of like that's
• 52:14
  you know when I meant
• 52:16
  like God fearing I think Chris had said something back in the
• 52:18
  chat and I just want
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_03: to address it so
• 52:22
  Chris what i'm using the term God fearing it's i'm not using it
• 52:24
  as a derogatory
• 52:25
  term i'm just using as a descriptor of people who support their
• 52:31
  religion and they
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_03: believe in what they believe,
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_03: but they're not using it for evil.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_03: Okay,
• 52:37
  they're not using they're not using their religion as a pretext
• 52:41
  to harm other
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_03: people that they're using their religion as a pretext to
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_03: to encourage themselves,
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_03: to build themselves bigger,
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_03: to look deeper into their own soul or their mind,
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_03: to grow,
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_03: to become a larger piece of an individual of what they believe God to be,
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_03: to be a better person for their families,
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_03: for themselves,
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_03: whatever.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_03: It's never meant to be a derogatory comment.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_03: However, with that said,
• 53:11
  those that use religion to harm others and use the message of
• 53:16
  God to do harm those
• 53:19
  are the people that we need to extract from society oh and and
• 53:26
  Chris I love your I
• 53:27
  love your comment back here too on the fear part is I was
• 53:31
  thinking that too this
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_01: whole time is isn't it
• 53:35
  Sad that Christianity's idea or the value that we talk about is
• 53:41
  God fearing rather
• 53:43
  than God loving or God supporting like wouldn't it be a much
• 53:50
  kinder approach to
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_01: ourselves and our own and say Christianity if it was about God loving and
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_01: and not God Fearing.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like I don't want people to fear God.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, no.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_01: I have no problem with your terminology.
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_01: I think the terminology itself is weird.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_01: That that is even the common phrase that they use.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's bullshit that you should be afraid of your God.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_01: Your God is supposed to be all-loving and all-caring and all-knowing.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_01: You should be God-loving and not God-fearing.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_03: I just looked up the terminology on Merriam-Webster.
• 54:30
  So the first known use of the term God-fearing was in 1548
• 54:35
  during the Reformation.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_03: And this was right after the Inquisition.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_03: I think that's where the term really kind of developed was
• 54:44
  was after the Spanish Inquisition in the 1500s to having people
• 54:49
  being more devout
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_03: about their relationship with God.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_03: And I don't think it was meant,
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_03: it has morphed into this language of syntax that just kind of,
• 55:06
  I think what's happened is it's gotten bastardized into
• 55:09
  somebody who's too
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_03: fundamentalist.
• 55:13
  in their belief of religion and as opposed to God loving which
• 55:16
  is a lot much more
• 55:18
  softer tone and you know I think it's very Jesus-y it's very
• 55:24
  well I don't want to
• 55:27
  say Jesus I mean but it is God loving is a very Jesus-y thing
• 55:29
  isn't it the New
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_01: Testament is a loving God is a forgiving God
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_03: Learning the History of the Word.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_03: And I didn't know that until just now.
• 55:37
  So I learned something today that the God fearing term actually
• 55:40
  came from 1548,
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_03: which I mean,
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_03: think about this.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_03: This term is 550 plus 580 years old.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 55:49
  Maybe we maybe we do need a new term and maybe it does need to
• 55:53
  be God loving
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_03: instead of God fearing.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_03: We do need to change the terminology.
• 55:58
  we try and work on other terminology why can't we address
• 56:01
  religious terminology and
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  Naida I appreciate the hell out of your comments thank you for
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  making sure that
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  when we talk about this and I understand that when I talk about
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  religion this way
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  it can be taken in a very harmful tone and I do not mean it and
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  I do not intend it
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  that way I also understand that it can be and it is my fault if
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  it is taken in that
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  SPEAKER_01: way
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm not here to attack anybody's culture.
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  I think it's harmful that communities have been made to think
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  that they need
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  SPEAKER_01: religion for their culture.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think communities have these cultures without the religion anyway,
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  and we could take that and put it on a backseat because as
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  somebody else said,
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  SPEAKER_01: we've put so much
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  idea into faith as or we've been forced to put so much idea
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  into faith that people
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  SPEAKER_01: forgot to put an idea into society and into culture as a general concept.
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  And so we've lost the importance of what does it mean to be a
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  unified culture
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  SPEAKER_01: rather than disparate faiths.
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  And I think that's really harmful because white Christian
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  nationalism forced
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  Black Slaves into Christianity and I think it's so fucking
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  awful that the legacy of
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  that is that they've been continued to be forced into it and
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  it's it's been turned
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  into part of culture when it didn't have to be yeah because
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  white Christian
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  nationalisms forced this upon people and we're still in that
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  and yes it is much
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  SPEAKER_01: much older than the US it is a Christian problem
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  and I'm tired of not being able to say that I'm tired of people
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  holding that back
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  it is a Christian problem the Christianity is built on the
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  system of patriarchy
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  abuse and domination and we need to be able to admit that the
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  church was making
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  money on the slave trade and that's how they retrofitted the
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  Bible we allowed or we
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  SPEAKER_01: let
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  white christian nationalists justify slavery with the bible yep
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  we justified
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  slavery with the bible in the u.s we've justified all of these
• 58:37
  horrible actions the
• 58:39
  spread of mormonism is the story of the american genocide and
• 58:45
  we're not ready to
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  SPEAKER_01: talk about that in america
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  So nobody wants to talk about the fact that Mormonism is
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  founded on white supremacy
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_01: and white nationalism and hate and fraud and genocide.
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  We don't want to talk about that here in the States because
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  we're too afraid to
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  break away from we've been so indoctrinated by Christian
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  nationalism that we have
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  SPEAKER_01: to see Christianity as part of us.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is not.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is not.
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  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't have to be.
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  SPEAKER_02: And what you're talking about is defilements of the good parts.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean,
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  SPEAKER_02: the Bible has thoughts,
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  SPEAKER_02: you know,
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  there's so many stories about love and all this white supremacy
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  stuff is a
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  SPEAKER_02: defilement of everything that's good.
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  So all the good Christians should be joining and applauding us
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  for saying,
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_02: let's stop the defilement of Christianity,
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  SPEAKER_02: come back to the good part about humanity,
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  SPEAKER_02: about caring for each other,
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_02: about mutual support.
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  SPEAKER_02: I never understand why that's a controversial thing to say,
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  SPEAKER_02: but it's because we're not allowed to talk about things because of
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  Racism and the control and the influence of it in this country
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  and I'm going to
• 59:49
  take it back just a little bit further than Christianity too
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  because Judaism we
• 59:54
  deserve blame in this too we definitely do we were a warring we
• 1:00:00
  are a warring
• 1:00:02
  system it is I know Naida this discussion is centered on
• 1:00:06
  whiteness because we're a
• 1:00:07
  fucking big part of the problem like whiteness caused this
• 1:00:11
  problem the idea of
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_01: white caused this problem
• 1:00:16
  I don't like the idea of white I don't like the idea of it I
• 1:00:20
  think it's fucking
• 1:00:21
  disgusting because we put ourselves on a pedestal and said
• 1:00:25
  everybody else has to be
• 1:00:26
  subjugated to us and to do that we use religion we justified
• 1:00:31
  all of these acts with
• 1:00:32
  religious subjugation be it Jewish subjugation be it Christian
• 1:00:37
  subjugation both
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_01: have a history of subjugation
• 1:00:42
  Both Have History Of War The God Of Judaism Is The Old God Of
• 1:00:47
  War From The Original
• 1:00:50
  Pantheon That It Broke From The Zoroastrians There's A Reason
• 1:00:55
  There Aren't Any Of
• 1:00:56
  Them Because The Jewish Tribes Butchered Them And Yes There Was
• 1:01:01
  A Lot Of War Back
• 1:01:02
  Then Too There's Still A Lot Of War We Need To Talk About It In
• 1:01:05
  This Way Our
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_01: History Is Based In Subjugation To Christianity
• 1:01:11
  SPEAKER_01: and I'm and I and that subjugation to Christianity turned into very early
• 1:01:18
  subjugation through white nationalism be it what you want
• 1:01:22
  whatever you want it's
• 1:01:23
  always been white supremacy in Christianity they took over the
• 1:01:27
  church early and
• 1:01:28
  used it to supremacize themselves over everybody else and they
• 1:01:32
  forced Christianity
• 1:01:33
  onto other nations and other peoples and said this is what you
• 1:01:37
  now believe in or
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_01: you die
• 1:01:40
  Or You Believe in It And You're Still A Slave We Don't Give A
• 1:01:43
  Shit Because You're
• 1:01:44
  Not White And You're Not Us So It Is Unfortunately It's
• 1:01:47
  Centered On Whiteness
• 1:01:48
  Partially Because That's My View Of The World I Am I Have Been
• 1:01:51
  Brought Up In That
• 1:01:53
  Society And We Need To Break It Yeah So It Started By
• 1:01:58
  Subjugating The Anybody That
• 1:02:00
  Didn't Share Their Beliefs The Heretics And That Evolved Into
• 1:02:03
  White Supremacy
• 1:02:04
  you know i'm just i'm just reflecting guys i was just listening
• 1:02:07
  and just to sit
• 1:02:08
  back and just to reflect you know you know we started today
• 1:02:18
  with me talking about
• 1:02:20
  family issues right like the struggles i've been having since
• 1:02:23
  my grandmother passed
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_03: away and somehow this thing has now morphed into
• 1:02:30
  where did this conversation take us we right I mean it wound up
• 1:02:34
  becoming a
• 1:02:35
  religious war over language right we literally got away from
• 1:02:43
  the whole point of the
• 1:02:44
  title of our show which is to replace and reclaim and rebuild
• 1:02:51
  we got away from what
• 1:02:52
  we were supposed to talk about tonight you know and somehow we
• 1:02:55
  got we got caught up
• 1:02:57
  SPEAKER_03: in the
• 1:02:58
  this in our own little religious war over syntax yeah and I
• 1:03:07
  listen we all we all
• 1:03:08
  the three of us are all responsible for the path of where the
• 1:03:12
  show takes us but we
• 1:03:13
  also unlike other shows we actually read the chats and respond
• 1:03:18
  to our viewers that
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_03: are supporting our show and want to engage with them as well and I
• 1:03:25
  I don't want to think that we're living in a we're living in a
• 1:03:28
  silo here we
• 1:03:29
  recognize everybody in the chat and we recognize everybody's
• 1:03:32
  going through personal
• 1:03:35
  everything including walter's blue whale but and there's and
• 1:03:43
  there's the the humor
• 1:03:44
  back in our conversation but you know even even with evan like
• 1:03:48
  even for the 10
• 1:03:48
  SPEAKER_03: minutes that evans on
• 1:03:50
  SPEAKER_03: It brings the four of us more cohesively close.
• 1:03:53
  Evan has always been an integral part of why we did this show
• 1:03:58
  in the first place.
• 1:04:03
  It pains me that we have this level of strife and conflict
• 1:04:10
  still in our own little
• 1:04:12
  community over something that none of us truly will ever
• 1:04:18
  comprehend or know
• 1:04:21
  SPEAKER_03: on any level.
• 1:04:24
  So all I'm saying is,
• 1:04:26
  I think we need to just everybody just take a deep breath.
• 1:04:31
  SPEAKER_03: Count to 10.
• 1:04:32
  SPEAKER_03: Let's refocus, right?
• 1:04:35
  SPEAKER_03: What what is our goal here?
• 1:04:38
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 1:04:38
  SPEAKER_03: What is the purpose of why we do this?
• 1:04:41
  SPEAKER_03: It's to undo the masculinity and damage that's been done.
• 1:04:45
  We're not going to get it solved in a in a one hour show that's
• 1:04:48
  been going on for centuries.
• 1:04:51
  right but we can do better we need to be better and i'm
• 1:05:02
  building off what you said
• 1:05:03
  i want us to get back to next week hopefully we get maybe we
• 1:05:08
  get ourselves back
• 1:05:09
  into our our rhythm and really focus back in on a single
• 1:05:13
  discussion area um
• 1:05:15
  and support each other no no no no no I don't think anybody
• 1:05:19
  needs to apologize for
• 1:05:20
  anything no no apologies no no that happened today I think it
• 1:05:24
  was I think it's
• 1:05:25
  important that we have all these conversations and that we're
• 1:05:28
  able to transition
• 1:05:29
  and weave our way we actually can do a weave here where we can
• 1:05:32
  talk about things
• 1:05:33
  and we don't sound like a we don't sound like a rambling uh
• 1:05:38
  orange buffoon um
• 1:05:41
  but I think it's important that we have these discussions and
• 1:05:44
  that we remind
• 1:05:46
  ourselves that we do need to recenter so that we can focus in
• 1:05:53
  on what brought us
• 1:05:56
  SPEAKER_01: together and yeah I love the feedback and we're we're
• 1:06:02
  Right right now we just we built this group because Evan needed
• 1:06:06
  support in December
• 1:06:08
  and the three of us were there and said let's do it and that's
• 1:06:14
  where we started and
• 1:06:15
  I want to build this like I'd love to see growth in who we
• 1:06:20
  build in include on our
• 1:06:22
  panel like I love the I just I do this because they were my
• 1:06:26
  friends and they were
• 1:06:27
  SPEAKER_01: available and we contacted when Evan needed the support most
• 1:06:31
  SPEAKER_01: and we brought it live and we've just been doing it since.
• 1:06:35
  And I think we all grow as we're doing this show and refocusing
• 1:06:40
  is going to be a
• 1:06:41
  SPEAKER_01: good idea for us.
• 1:06:43
  and just a point here like I I love the fact that it is we have
• 1:06:49
  we have actually
• 1:06:50
  expanded the group of people that we have included as part of
• 1:06:53
  our our club with
• 1:06:55
  with you know people like you know Natasha and Yetta and Ashley
• 1:06:59
  and Chris and
• 1:07:00
  everybody that we've brought in I mean Fred on occasion when
• 1:07:03
  he's been able to pop
• 1:07:04
  SPEAKER_03: in and it we we are truly blessed to be able to do this
• 1:07:12
  I am grateful for my friendships with the two of you as well as
• 1:07:16
  Evan and the
• 1:07:18
  relationships that I have built since I started Substack in
• 1:07:22
  October and it's just in
• 1:07:24
  where our paths have crossed and recrossed and flared out and
• 1:07:30
  recrossed again we
• 1:07:33
  are literally at a crossroads not just as a country but also I
• 1:07:37
  think all of us
• 1:07:38
  SPEAKER_03: individually all have very hard choices to make
• 1:07:42
  SPEAKER_03: you know, before November 3, some easier than others.
• 1:07:48
  And the decisions that we have to make are really going to be
• 1:07:52
  very dependent on
• 1:07:55
  SPEAKER_03: what type of not just country,
• 1:07:57
  SPEAKER_03: but what type of community we want to have and want to be a part of.
• 1:08:05
  SPEAKER_03: And it's a very scary topic
• 1:08:09
  to look at that because it's it really is is our lives are on
• 1:08:15
  the line yeah yeah I
• 1:08:17
  mean this is our battlefield everybody this is the hill that we
• 1:08:20
  all are gonna have
• 1:08:20
  to die on to make this not legitimately die but we're gonna
• 1:08:23
  have to die on this
• 1:08:24
  hill this is this is the hill that we have to fight our battle
• 1:08:28
  on because they
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_03: would love nothing more for us to take up arms
• 1:08:32
  SPEAKER_03: because that would make life a lot easier.
• 1:08:34
  But if we make this an intelligent masculinity hill and an
• 1:08:41
  intelligent masculinity
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_03: conversation and we are basically like,
• 1:08:44
  SPEAKER_03: you guys are full of shit and this is why?
• 1:08:49
  Because I have yet to see any of these female governors in any
• 1:08:55
  of these states
• 1:08:56
  SPEAKER_03: legislate men's health the way that men have legislated women's health.
• 1:09:03
  and yeah it's that's just one one little area where I know I
• 1:09:09
  make a difference
• 1:09:10
  because I will never ever vote against not just my wife but my
• 1:09:16
  daughter or anybody
• 1:09:17
  else's kid or them their health care yeah because they have a
• 1:09:23
  different chromosome
• 1:09:24
  SPEAKER_03: than I do yeah yeah that is just fucking insane and
• 1:09:31
  As we get away from the patriarchal setup you know it's going
• 1:09:34
  to be uncomfortable
• 1:09:36
  and you know and growth is uncomfortable you know and we're
• 1:09:38
  going to have to
• 1:09:40
  acknowledge mistakes and things that have been part of our
• 1:09:44
  deeply held beliefs for
• 1:09:45
  a long time you know this is one of those things that's going
• 1:09:47
  to have to happen and
• 1:09:49
  we'll try to work through it with as much grace as we can and
• 1:09:52
  give people space to
• 1:09:53
  go through it but things are not going to be the same on the
• 1:09:56
  other side of this as
• 1:09:57
  they were going into it they're just not you know we've got a
• 1:09:59
  lot of things we have
• 1:10:00
  SPEAKER_02: to change and yeah
• 1:10:01
  I just gotta remember who our allies are work for everybody's
• 1:10:04
  greater humanity and
• 1:10:07
  stop the torture of human beings is our objective and we have
• 1:10:10
  to leave no stone
• 1:10:11
  uncovered you know in pursuit of that objective even if it's
• 1:10:14
  sacred stones that
• 1:10:15
  we've been told all our lives never to flip over they gotta be
• 1:10:18
  flipped too sorry
• 1:10:19
  they just do like I said we need an enema yeah the collective
• 1:10:25
  enema cool yeah
• 1:10:30
  That seems uncomfortable I'm glad I was not drinking coffee
• 1:10:35
  when you said that I
• 1:10:37
  was waiting for Walter to drink I was trying to get him to
• 1:10:40
  spray but I just I
• 1:10:41
  didn't want to ruin the hardware Okay well gents we have to
• 1:10:47
  wrap up here I've got
• 1:10:48
  SPEAKER_01: another show I've got to help everybody thank you so much
• 1:10:52
  Everybody Yeah I'm gonna put up our QR codes real quick so that
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  SPEAKER_01: in particular of late it's been phenomenal
• 1:11:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Evan's doing really great writing.
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• 1:11:33
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• 1:11:35
  on another healthcare piece on the healthcare bill that you
• 1:11:38
  haven't gotten yet,
• 1:11:40
  SPEAKER_03: which is another...
• 1:11:42
  as well as i've deflated walter again yeah but it's but it's
• 1:11:48
  it's another important
• 1:11:49
  piece i it's not so technical i really worked hard on this
• 1:11:52
  piece to try to not make
• 1:11:53
  it as technical as the last two pieces that were about hhs and
• 1:11:56
  allantir and and i i
• 1:11:58
  try to i'm really working on my writing so please if you can
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  give me a lot of
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  feedback on the pieces i would appreciate it because i i work
• 1:12:05
  really hard to try to
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  SPEAKER_03: be a better writer so i love that love it
• 1:12:13
  and let me go to our next Walter my friend awesome thanks so
• 1:12:17
  much yeah we're going
• 1:12:18
  to continue to work for a more humanitarian United States and I
• 1:12:21
  think you know
• 1:12:23
  that's our objective here we want to protect becoming more of
• 1:12:26
  more of an advocate
• 1:12:27
  just for children's rights I think our children in this country
• 1:12:30
  are abused as part
• 1:12:31
  SPEAKER_02: of our venerated traditions
• 1:12:33
  and I don't want to I don't think it's acceptable we have to
• 1:12:36
  fix that so I'll
• 1:12:37
  continue that effort keep interviewing good candidates
• 1:12:39
  candidates of integrity I
• 1:12:41
  bet it's been filling my heart with joy to see how many good
• 1:12:44
  people are out there
• 1:12:45
  working really really hard I come in interviews sometimes with
• 1:12:48
  expectations and
• 1:12:48
  they show me the reality of their area and how hard they're
• 1:12:51
  working and how good
• 1:12:52
  they are so there are good people out there so take heart
• 1:12:55
  people we are going to
• 1:12:56
  get this back one way or another because we're not going to
• 1:12:58
  stop we're not going to
• 1:12:59
  SPEAKER_02: stop this resistance so thank you
• 1:13:02
  SPEAKER_01: No, we're not.
• 1:13:02
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• 1:13:35
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  rest of your week and everybody have a great Memorial Day
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  weekend be safe barbecue
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  enjoy the enjoy the the wonderful weather I think we're gonna
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  thanks guys now and as
• 1:14:00
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