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S3 E23: Oh Daboll, The House Is A Mess!!! · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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Fifteen decrease. You can see you Brett out in the Lake Effect, Bacon
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tables and guitar. Would you here? Wherese would you have to be?
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And to Ron Elvis in the lay Pancho the members that you need to know.
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I won't you out in now your family? Where's would you have to
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be? Wherese would you have? Welcome into the Nickel City Crew. I
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am your host, Rob Crippen. Please like us on Facebook and follow us
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Yard. We're so glad that you're joining us for some of your Buffalo Bills
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and NFL content Again today, and as always, these are my Bill's thoughts
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set out loud. It's a vibe, so ridiculous sort the sad thing was
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sick the show collect for me? Where's would you want to be? All
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right, let's get straight to it. I'm really excited for tonight's episode.
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As always, it's been an interesting week for Bills, Mafia, nicol City
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Crew. I know I've gotten a lot of messages throughout the week since Sunday
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afternoon, and it's been just funny to kind of go through it and listen
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to some of the rhetoric and some of the conjecture and different things like that.
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And it's funny because a couple of weeks ago, a long time listener
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from the very beginning, one of my good friends from high school, shout
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out to Ao Wood. He's down there in Florida now, Williamsville South.
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One of the fastest human beings I have ever seen in my life in person.
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I don't know, you say, Bolt, haven't seen him run in
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person. But Ao was a fast, a fast dude. And he had
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told me said, you know, I love the show, love you and
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DT make sure that it doesn't sound like WGR make sure that it doesn't sound
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like a McDermott hate show. And it was funny when he gave me that
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constructive criticism because I was like, well, that was coming off the Miami
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game, and I was like, I gave him his flowers. It was
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his magnum opus, his finest performance as a defensive coordinator and head coach of
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the Buffalo Bills. And it was funny because I feel that we've been fair
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to McDermott on this show, and I feel that we have kind of given
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him his just due when it's when it's been due. Unfortunately, AO,
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you might want to shut off your podcasts because you know this episode may not
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be what you want to listen to. Writing shotgut tonight as always joining me
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my co host Adam dump Truck Repsick. Check him out on Instagram. How
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Adam are you? Pete c as e y k at Adam Repsick on Instagram
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DT. I mean, this was a tough one. This is a tough
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one. I've got to dissect it. I would be disingenuous to have a
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podcast and then not go through some of the things that have been going on
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in my head since uh Sunday's lost to the New England Patriots up in Boxboro.
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What's up? Rob? What's up? Nickel City? We're back tough
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four four and three looks bad. Four and three looks bad, and we
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talked about it, and then we'll dig into everything to night. Four and
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three looks bad, But what a better week to kind of rebound. Short
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week, get this in the rear view as quick as possible and move on
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to start getting back and stack and wins and the win column. As you
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know, the tougher part of the schedules coming up. Anything we saw in
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the past three weeks has been pretty rough. So four and three, uh,
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not looking good. But we quick turn around, quick bounce back.
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Let's get it in the review and keep moving. But Nickel City, this
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is the point, right Robert. You know we're we're this night and we
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talk about therapy and getting it off our chests and this is what we had
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to do. I wish ship, I wish we had this podcast. And
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then during the drought, then you know, we might we might have some
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more years on our lifespan that we don't anymore. But oh my god,
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we're back four and three and you know, hey, this is this is
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ball, this is the NFL rob this is the NFL Click clack, We're
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back. Joining us tonight our special guest. Once again. We had such
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positive reviews when this young lady was on. We had such positive feedback from
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the episode in and just her her take on things and her take on how
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she looks at you know, sports and athletes and different things like that.
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Joining us again, the editor in chief at Buffalo fan Base. Again,
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that is a Buffalo Bill's original podcast network, The Lovely Robin Monday. You
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could check her out on Twitter and Instagram. Robin r O B y N
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Monday, m D y w Yo. That stands for Wyoming. The crew
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is Mama Monday. I mean, oh, happy to have you back.
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Thank you for joining us today. I've missed you, guys. I have
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really missed you guys. And what a week for me to be on your
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show. Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry to throw you at the fire.
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Moa Monday. I don't know your thoughts of McDermott, but I'm sorry to
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throw you right in the fire. I have lots of fun. You're a
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good sport. You're a good sport. I have lots of thoughts about about
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the last three weeks this season, Josh Allen, There's all kinds of stuff
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that we really need to talk about. All right, Well, let's let's
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get straight to it. Let's get into it. Cet, what in the
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actual heck? What in the ham sandwiches? My father would say, rest
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in peace is going on the Buffalo Bills. You know, they come out
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on Sunday afternoon, and you know, you think everything is going to be
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okay, You think that it's no big deal. You know, the Patriots
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are the Patriots the literal, not a joke, not a hyperbolic statement.
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The worst offense in the NFL, one of the worst offenses that we've seen
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in recent years. And the Bills followed them twenty nine to twenty five.
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And it was a situation where DT from the from the jump, from the
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kickoff, when the Patriots received, they come down, they score, and
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it was just a really crappy game in respects to the fact that offense and
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defense. You know, one of McDermott's you know coin phrases now is complimentary
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football. They didn't play it on Sunday. It showed, and it showed
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early on DT. It wasn't anything that was complex or anything that was going
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on crazy or anything like that. The Patriots took it to us and we
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were not ready for that game whatsoever. And that that includes offense and defense,
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regardless of the injuries, and we'll get into that later on the defensive
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side of the ball. They took it to us and they were ready to
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play. We were not. Well, it's like a bad gambler, right
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guys. I mean you look at oh yeah, okay, we had had
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a bad week where we're getting it back this week, or Okay, now
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we had a bad week, we're getting it back this week. Next thing,
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you know, your your two thousand dollars in the hold of the bookie
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and they're coming at you to the baseball ready to break decaps, you know,
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because you're three weeks in a row of trying to catch back and trying
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to get trying to rebound. And that's kind of been my vibe. And
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you know, and I've talked to you out the ledge a few times in
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the street week span of you know, getting back and getting you know,
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okay, next week, Yes this happened, not acceptable, but we're getting
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it back this week, and then it's and then it's worse, and then
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okay, yes this happened, we're getting back. Next week, we catch
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the win and the Giants and then you come back to a real get right
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game, divisional opponent, a team that you know beat our ass for so
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many years, and this is to get right, get back game, and
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you know it's the worst one of the three. So if you said it
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early and off and we defer, you know, when a team that we're
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having troubles getting started, we're having trouble getting tempo, and we defer.
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You know, I didn't like that decision on somewhere where you could come out
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and maybe punch them in the mouth early and keep it rolling. They roll
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right down the field and bend, don't break. They kick the field goal.
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Whatever, no harm, no file. Then the first play from scrimmage
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we have to pick and it's just like, man, here we go again
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another week and it literally it literally laid suit to all that three weeks in
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a row. And I think this would looked worse other than the you know,
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the Jacksonville game and the Giants game. This looked worse of all read
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didn't matter the opponent or anything, just in general, looked worse so early
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and often they get right to get back, and it was far from all
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that. Yeah, it's crazy, Mama Monday, because I was watching the
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game in disbelief. We'll get to the Nickel City Crew tailcake report at the
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end of the show and I'll let everybody know how I consumed it. But
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it was, I mean, it was quick, Mama Monday. It wasn't.
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I don't know. I know you're wyoming. So you've got an early
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early started at eleven o'clock in the morning. And what a way to digest
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your coffee and your breakfast because that happened. I mean it started fast,
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Mama money. It did not take long for that game to get out of
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hand. It did not. It was the first play on offense that set
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the tone. Yeah, and I am really looking forward to our discussion.
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And before we do, I just want to say I am very grateful for
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the invitation to come and spend some time with you and DT. I have
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enjoyed your podcast very much and we certainly do have a lot to talk about.
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Yes, we do. We do. It's it's funny because you know,
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DT, Mama Monday, I was listening to Postgame, and you know
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Nate Gary, one of my favorite guys to listen to on w g R,
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and I reached out to him. I know that he was on the
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episode with us DT on your birthday weekend when you were out of town,
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and I reached out to him. He said to try to get in contact
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with next week, so hopefully we can link up and have him back on
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because he speaks my language and and one of the reasons that he does is
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because of the fact that he said on the post game show that Sean McDermott
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has effectively neutered the most lethal weapon in the NFL. What do you always
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talk about, DT? About Josh Annimal, But how he's you know,
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he's insatiable, how he's he's so much fun to watch, how he's he's
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you know Musty TV. He's he's the man. And why is he on
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the cover of Madden right behind me. He's not on the cover of Madden
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for acting and playing like you know, Derek Carr or some type of pocket
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quarterback or anything like that. He got on the cover of Madden because of
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the fact that he makes plays. He's free. He's a wild Bronco.
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I think von Miller literally said that. I know von Miller is into farming
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and you know, horses and stuff like that, and he said, he's
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like a wild Bronco. You can't tame a Bronco. Sean McDermott has really
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done a good job. They're playing slower. I listened to Jeremy White talking
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about the pace of play and how we're running ten less plays now per game,
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and it's just a lot of stuff that's going on. I don't need
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sugar high. Josh Allen DT like we talked about after Week one in the
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Jets. However, I don't need Captain check Down. I don't need a
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reincarnation of Trent Edwards. And I know that Josh Allen obviously pushes the fall
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the ball down the field more than that. I'm being, you know,
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hyperbolic with that, But I don't need some type of conservative version of this
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guy because of the fact that the reason he's on the cover, the reason
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why Bill's Mafia went so crazy for him, is not only just because he
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jumps over linebackers and safeties, but because of the way that he plays and
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we'll get into that with Robin later, because of his infectious nature, how
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he brings energy to the room, he brings energy to the sideline. All
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of that type of stuff is missing. He doesn't even look like the same
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quarterback. And I'm going to lay a lot at the coach's feet today and
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I'll get in to it and dig it to it. But DT correct me
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if I'm wrong. He would not be on the cover right behind me of
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madd in twenty four if he was just a pocket pass on and just another
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quarterback. Josh Allen is not just another quarterback. He is a well,
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the reason for the hype, the reason for the spot is yeah, like
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you said, Matt, and you know the why he's Elvis in the city
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of Buffalo, can't go to a Tim Morton's without being you know, mob
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like Taylor Swift or because he is addicting in because he you know, because
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he is crazy and he's a gamer and he was a winner and he he
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says fit and makes plays. And you know, we last week our title
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was identity Crisis, and I think that's where we're still kind of rolling into
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that. It's like, you don't want him to take deep shots and go
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crazy and be Sugara Josh, but then you know, you also don't want
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him to be full on you know, checkdown and everything in the middle,
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but you kind of got to be good at one of those things. And
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right now we're in the middle and not good at either. You know,
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the Tom Brady became the goat for being captain checkdown if you will, and
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you know, I'm not saying Johns, but you know, bang bang bang,
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and then you know, find your shot and take it. And I
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think that's, you know, if that's the way we want to get to
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and preserve and you know, keep seventeen upright for as long as possible,
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which we all want to happen. Something of that nature is going to have
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to start rolling in. But right now it's it feels like it's not in
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either direction. Like when we do, you know, do the checkdowns and
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the and the you know, the trying to get comfortable, and we'll all
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begin to sleep. We're not executing in that regard. You know, you're
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you're playmakers and tight ends and other players aren't making plays in that regard.
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And then when we have to go deep and make those crazy plays, we're
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hesitanting not comfortable in those situations because we're not doing it all games. So
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I think, you know, the identity crisis carries over again to this week
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of we're not good at either situation. I think you know, in reality,
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we're going to get more towards the checkdown vibe. And that doesn't mean,
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you know, we have to be totally shut down, but we're not
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executing in that check down. So you know, why are we pushing for
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that when we knew kind of sugar Hi Josh does work. Obviously it costs
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us in some cases, but it does work. So we're in that wall
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of what's going on. Yeah, and Mama Mondy that you know, DT
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just said something just now that made me. It reminded me of something from
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before, is that you can't you can't have the good without the bad.
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Now, you know, I've made references many times on one Nicol City Crow,
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and you've heard me, because you know you're an avid listener. You
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can't. I can't ask you to come into my kitchen and cook me a
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gourmet meal and then I'm gonna bitch when the kitchen is dirty. Now,
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now, the kitchen might be dirty, and but you know, but listen,
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when you serve up that meal and you lay it on the table,
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I'm gonna sit there and I'm gonna enjoy it so much because it's just such
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a wonderfully crafted meal. Mama Mondy, I can't complain that my kitchen is
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dirty because the cook was in there and he was doing his thing quote unquote.
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Talk to me about that, because DT just brought back another point that
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I thought of. I can't complain and say that I want Josh Allen to
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be on the cover of Madden and everybody's buying his jerk and everybody loves him
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because he does some of the crazy things that you would never tell quarterbacks to
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do, and thrown across your body and running towards the right sideline and doing
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a lot of different things that are not conventional, and then complain when sometimes
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that he makes mistakes and things like that, and we were critical. Everybody
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was critical after the Jets game because he went overboard. And there's life's about
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balance, So there is a balance that comes to it. But I want
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this man to be who he is. And I think that my coach is
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stifling and we'll get into it, Mama Mondy, but speak to that because
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I think that that's an important concept that I can't bitch and want Josh Allen
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to be on the cover of mat and in that case, you know,
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and then complain that he's making some turnovers or he makes some bone head decisions.
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I know that first pass was a bad was a bad decision, but
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that's a play that they love to run and they run it all the time,
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and and coaches on the defensive side of the ball get paid to Mama
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Mondy, so speak to it because I just feel like we have neutered this
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young man, and really the coaching staff because Obviously we're just fans, so
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we have no saying it. No, we don't, but I think you
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both had excuse me, the nail on the head. The one thing that
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I would say that this speaks to when you're talking about finding balance. Okay,
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let me back up the truck just a moment here, because I get
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this question on Twitter all the time, like who do you think you are
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that you understand all these psychological things. Well, I've been a psychotherapist since
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the early nineteen nineties. Yeah, so I do have some of the background
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that is required to understand human behavior. And the one thing that we learn
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about as therapists is that you cannot change someone's innate personality. Okay, you
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you cannot change they're innate personality. And I have an example. Some of
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us are what we call hot reactors. Okay, that would be your personality
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type. That would be me. I don't know about DT, but I
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definitely am a high he's more. He's more the slow burn. So the
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slow burn people deal with things one way. Hot reactors deal with things in
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a completely different way. If you are trying to teach Josh Allen how to
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be Tom Brady, it will never work. Say it again for the people
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in the back. It will never work. The best you can hope for
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when you're trying to modulate like sugar high, Josh that I agree with you.
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We don't want to see sugar hi. Josh. That was a disaster.
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And I think what happened was the pendulum swell too much the other way.
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And Josh got and I'll get into this later on when we talk about
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it more, but Josh got some I think some bad advice in terms of
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how to deal with his sugar high emotions because you can't this low positive thing
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that we're going to talk about later. Okay, let's just get that like
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right off the table. Now. You hogwash. It's hogwashed. It's total
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hogwash. And Josh, quite frankly, I think right now is confused because
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he's, like I got so many people trying to tell him, this is
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all you have to be and instead of letting him be who the key is
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and work within the context of his personality. In other words, you don't
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try to turn him into Tom Brady. You try to turn him into being
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the most effective Josh Allen that Josh Allen can be. And I you know,
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we'll go on that's my take on that. I love it. I
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love it. You know it's interesting because you know, DT, I was
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listening, you know, yesterday. You know, I'm ann a WGR listener
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Nicol City Kruwe knows that, and listen to some of the press conferences and
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stuff like and some of the stuff I had to just turn off to be
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quite honest with you, DT, But it was important to me that,
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you know, I'm concerned when it comes to McDermott, DT, I'm concerned
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that I don't want you meddling in the offense. So here's what I mean
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by that. I'm sure you know. They gave an example of Mike McDaniel,
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who i've you know, was a brilliant offensive mind, and Kyle Shanahan.
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And it was funny because they had brought up a time where Mike Petton,
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our former defensive coordinator, was a head coach for the Cleveland Browns,
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and he had looked and he looked at Kyle Shanahan DT, and he'd said,
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you know, hey, listen, I want to run right here.
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They were right down towards the goal line or something like that. Jeremy White
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was saying on de WGR and Shanahan looked at him and just stared at him
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with that look. And then Mike Petton backed off and he said, Okay,
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I trust you. And I thought that that was really important. I
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don't know how much Sean McDermott trusts the actual offensive coordinator. I don't know
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how much he trusts the actual direction of the offense. And he actually spoke
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on it yesterday when he said he used the phrase, he said, I
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want the offense to look like what I wanted to look like. And you
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know, there was some pushback on WGR and I was listening to it,
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and you know, we don't all head coaches want some type of say and
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different things like that, and then they brought up the Mike McDaniel vic Fangio
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comparison. Listen, I think that if you are secure as a coach,
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okay, and it doesn't have to be I'm not questioning manhood or anything like
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that. DT. If you're secure as a coach, I know what I
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know. I cut my teeth under the late Jim Johnson in Philadelphia. I
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became a defensive coordinator in Carolina where I'm here, where I'm here in Charlotte,
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and and you know, built my resume and built my resume up to
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the point that the Pagoulas hired me to be the head coach. I don't
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need to act and and pretend that I know things that I don't know.
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You know what you don't know, And he doesn't know offense the way that
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he knows defense, and that's just that's just the way that he was cut
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and the way that his cloth has been cut. I don't want him to
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try to shape this team in his image in respects to you know, run,
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stop the run. Conservative. We've talked about some of those fourth dound
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decisions back in the past. We talked about playoff losses DT and it really
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frustrates me to hear him speak like that, because I promise you now I've
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got all the confirmation that I need that the feud between Sean McDermott and Brian
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David was real. It was not fake. The the rumblings and the reports,
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that was not something that was not fabricated or anything like that. It
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was not fabricated. Sean McDermott wants a conservative approach. He would prefer that
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he slipped into Josh Allen, and Josh Allen became the unicorn and the addicting
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you know, the watch that he is, the performer that he is,
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But he did not plan on it being this way. He wants more of
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a conservative approach. And that was really telling me to me when he spi
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He spoke yesterday and he said, you know, I really want the offense
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to look the way I wanted to look, and I'm making sure that I
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have it the way I wanted to look. That scares the hell out of
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me. Dt it does. It scares the hell out of me, man,
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it's all my my nightmares confirmed. Well, you said stay in your
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lane, right, and yes, yes, yes, to be a part
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of both. You know, you've got to be a part of the offense,
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you know as well to a certain degree. You can't just neglect it
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completely or you know you'd be you wouldn't be doing your due diligence and knowing
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it as both sides of the football. But you know, to your point,
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something that's kind of concerning, and I like to get Robin's point on
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this is the the psychology of this, like what could put you at ease?
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More like you got seventeen, you got the doll What shouldn't that be
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your easement to like, all right, offense is good. We got seventeen.
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He's capable, he's growing into you know, an elite franchise quarterback.
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Yes, we got some offensive coordinator's rotating door, whatever the case is.
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But we got one seven. What's more comforting, you know than having that.
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What other list of quarterbacks could you have in this NFL, like other
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than Patrick Mahomes that you would be Okay, this is one of the best
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case scenarios I can have on the offensive ball where I can focus on the
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defense. I'm calling the defense, not neglect the offense. But no,
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they got my back over here because we got seventeen, and it's kind of
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concerning to know, like, Okay, now I have to get more involved,
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and it's kind of overlooking it. And he's left breadcrumbs, you know,
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kind of a whole career, his whole you know, you'll fumble the
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ball, you don't play for five games, you don't hit him in the
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culture, you're off the team, and like you stand over rookies and don't
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let them on the field. They got to earn their strikes be men in
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the NFL, and like yes, yes, yes, but like you also
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have to you know, take what you get. And right now, as
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I talked last week, it's inevitable that this defense is going to start slowly
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reeling and reeling. They're good, they're talented, they're strong, but you
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know, there's just too many holes in it right now to hold up.
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And you're going against the worst offense in the NFL literally, like you said,
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worst offense in the NFL, and they're moving the ball up and down
22:41
on you. And then your press conference is about worrying about getting your hand
22:44
in the offense. Like, come on, you know you've got seventeen,
22:47
you got the boys. You got to focus on this reeling defense now that
22:51
you know you have had success with you show and proven success with you know,
22:55
so get back and do that and trust that you got seventeen and the
22:59
boys to take care. Are you on your side of the ball, Mama
23:00
Mondy? I mean he makes me nervous. He makes me nervous. When
23:04
I heard him say that, he made me nervous because of the fact that,
23:07
like I said, I have preconceived notions about him. So you know
23:11
what happens when you hear stuff like that, then obviously it just authenticates what
23:15
you already thought. Previously. That's why it's very you have to be very
23:18
careful of that. And I understand that I'm not trying to judge this guy
23:21
in that respect. I don't know him personally, but I do know that
23:23
when I hear things like that, Mama Mundy, it makes me think that,
23:26
well, you think that you know enough about offense and defense that now
23:30
you want to contribute on the offensive side of the ball when that's not really
23:33
your expertise. I need you to, like DT said, stay in your
23:37
laid like LeVar ball like, stay in your lane, do what you what
23:41
got you this job, and then trust and trust your coaches to do their
23:45
job and bring the best out of Josh Allen to bring the best out of
23:48
the offense. It scares me when I hear my head coach, who I
23:52
already think leans conservative and now he's proving that he leans conservative, tell me
23:56
that he wants this offense to look in the image of himself, and it
24:00
scares me. I don't know any other way to say it. Mama Monday,
24:04
I'm with you now. You said you brought up one word that I
24:07
think is huge when it comes to Sean McDermott. Trust, Trust, let's
24:15
look at the offensive coordinators he's had. None of them have had previous head
24:22
coaching experience. Correct, correct, Rick Dennison was never a head coach.
24:26
But no, ma'am, No, ma'am. I called some plays and done
24:29
for a little bit. I don't And from Dabel to Dorsey, Okay,
24:37
so we have we have nobody that's ever been a head coach calling plays on
24:47
the offense. That bothers me in the sense that does he would he feel
24:52
threatened by hiring somebody who was an offensive minded guru. I don't know,
24:57
somebody that could take his job potentially, kind of like Brian Dabel, who
25:02
was getting kind of hot in the pants, and then all of a sudden
25:03
there was riffs towards the end. I want to run there and and theybele
25:07
wants to pass the ball more. And then all of a sudden, last
25:08
two years they weren't getting along as much exactly. And add to that that
25:15
and that's what I think speaks to is is the lack of trust, okay,
25:19
and letting go and being able to let somebody or somebody's do the job
25:26
that they're capable of doing. And we know this about management in leadership if
25:33
you don't trust the people that you are delegating responsibility to, this is going
25:41
to be a problem. And we're starting to see that right now. The
25:45
conversations are about what's with Dorsey? Is Dorsey just his doormat? Is?
25:51
Is this what's going on? We brought those things up him, right So
25:57
the bottom line is I think McDermott needs to examine within himself some of the
26:04
issues that he may have in terms of trust and letting go and allowing people
26:11
to be who they are. He talks the talk, but I'm not seeing
26:15
him walk the walk in that regard. And I will say, I will
26:19
go on record and saying, and those who know me know this that I
26:23
adore Sean McDermott for the good things that he has brought to our team,
26:30
which is playoffs, which is winning, a winning culture. I've been all
26:34
about team culture for the last twenty years exactly. I get all of that.
26:41
But you still have to trust the people too, in terms of not
26:47
just trusting the process, you have to trust the people. And the other
26:51
thing I would just add to this is that I sense, because I picked
26:55
this up in his presser from yesterday, just sort of comment that he made
27:02
about defensive minded head coaches. Okay, I think there is some animosity absolutely
27:11
the league right now, because what's the you know, we hear this all
27:15
the time right now. Oh, the head coach needs to be an offensive
27:18
course. Yes, we hear this over and over and over again. You
27:21
don't think that makes guys like Sean McDermot defensive. Absolutely, Yes, they're
27:26
ego driven. Yes, we are ego driven speaking to DT because that's true.
27:32
Yeah, yeah, no, And that's that's exactly it. And you
27:33
want your head coach to have some ego, you got You've got to have
27:37
some swagger and ego on your squad, you know, to to run a
27:41
football team full of you know, growing assassa to be more alpha, you
27:48
have to have a big ego. I'm not telling him to, you know,
27:49
to to new to himself and not have a personality or anything like that.
27:52
But but yes, it's that fine line we battled up, you know,
27:57
like creating that call and being uniformed and you know almost army, like
28:03
a in uniform and the bag, you know, the the balance of that,
28:08
and then I will never let anybody in the door. I will never
28:12
let another idea come across my desk because I'm building this culture. I'm doing
28:17
this and when you and as I said earlier, when you've got somebody like
28:19
seventeen, when you have a once in a lifetime, once in a lifetime
28:23
player like you have to be able to you know, to mold that and
28:27
feel that. And you know, we talked maybe in offensive coach is better
28:32
for that because they did they know the tricks and the polls, and that's
28:33
what Dable might have been, you know better. And with that, But
28:37
the point I want to bring up now is this season, even the three
28:41
games, you know, they dominated the three games. So we go,
28:42
we come up the loss, and then they come rattle off three dominating wins
28:48
shoals, weren't you know, those still weren't the offense we were used to
28:51
seeing. You know, when they were dominating, like the Dolphins game.
28:53
They scored a lot of points, but it was still pretty black and white
28:57
up and down, you know, nothing crazy. We playmakers weren't getting involved
29:00
very twelve like very vanilla offenses. We scored a lot of Yeah, defense
29:07
played well, stuff on dis went great, and you know, the offense
29:10
was able to just convert with what they had. But even those three games,
29:14
So it's like the the hey it's all good. DT. It would
29:18
be saying, hey, remember those games we were killing teams like we got
29:21
it in us were good, but those games were very vanilla. We got
29:25
the wins against bad teams and then you come out and you know, now
29:27
we're losing the bad teams. Was still the same kind of vibe and the
29:32
game plan and the role. So that that balance of you know, we
29:36
need your ego, we need some sort of militants, if you will.
29:38
But then you have to know when there's when there's once in a lifetime situation's
29:44
happening in front of you that you know, did all the little recognize,
29:48
see how it goes, and and and use that to your advantage as opposed
29:52
to you know, I'm not letting it across my desk because you know I'm
29:56
the dude here. Yeah, I mean, you both have you know,
29:57
you both are pulling on my heartstrings in respects to how I have viewed McDermott,
30:02
because you both made comments that stuck with me that I've said in the
30:06
past. You know, I used to call it WGR many many times.
30:08
This was after thirteen seconds, and you know, and Robin, you said
30:11
something about he talks to talk, and I would like, I'm like this,
30:14
this man is fooling us. And what I meant by that was that,
30:17
you know, he's got the great monikers, and yes, you know,
30:19
trust the process sounds great. You can put it on a T shirt,
30:22
you can put it on a car flag and it'll wave in the wind
30:25
and it looks great and it sounds great, and I understand that. However,
30:29
every single coach during the drought had a moniker. Every single coach had
30:33
a culture that they were trying to bring in. You know, Sean McDermott
30:37
is is a more lifelike and he's got more attitude and bravado than, you
30:44
know, than Dick Jeron. I would call the radio station and say,
30:47
however, he is more professional than Rex Ryan, and he doesn't eat dog
30:51
biscuits and he's not gonna wear a Clemson helmet to practice. And I've said
30:53
that many times, and I would call to make the point. The overall
30:56
arching point was that he is them. They. He is a conservative defensive
31:02
coach who likes to run and stop the run. He likes to run the
31:04
ball, and he speaks about it complimentary football to the Kansas City Chiefs run
31:08
complimentary football DT. I mean, do they care about the run game,
31:12
MAMAMUNDI do they care about any of that? No, they go after their
31:17
strengths and they accentuate their strengths and then what has gotten them two super Bowls,
31:21
three Super Bowl appearances, things that the Buffalo Bills in this era have
31:25
not done yet. We haven't even been to the Super Bowl. The closest
31:26
thing was thirteen seconds. And after thirteen seconds, I was so upset with
31:30
Murc Dermott because of the fact that I didn't care if he called the calls
31:33
or if Leslie Fraser called the calls. I wanted him to pull rank.
31:37
I wanted him to have the wherewithal since he's on the defensive side of the
31:41
ball, to say we are not going to play prevent defense defense at this
31:44
moment, because it's going to just invite them to get that three points that
31:48
they need. I am deathly scared of this young man because of the fact
31:52
that I just don't know where he stands. It's funny because the Miami game
31:56
DT that you talked about, he scored points, he let the off.
32:00
It's run wild that day, So why was that he led the offense one
32:02
wild because he had a defense against a great offense and he didn't know exactly
32:07
if they would be able to hold up. And what happened in that game
32:09
they started out fourteen fourteen. He let the offense keep going, and then
32:13
what happened all of a sudden we talked about in a couple of episodes ago.
32:15
We blew them out, We demoralized them. All we needed was a
32:17
couple of stops because we kept scoring. The job of the offenses to score
32:21
points. And it feels like against the Giants and last week this against the
32:25
Patriots, is that he wants to play this ball control game because okay,
32:29
well my defense is a little hurt. You know, these offenses are bad,
32:32
so we should be able to just get by. I don't want to
32:35
get by. The Kansas City Chiefs and Andy Reid never talk about getting by.
32:38
They want to put as many points on you. Mike McDaniel wants to
32:42
embarrass every team that he can by scoring as many points as possible. And
32:45
he'll let the Chips fall. They just lost last week against the Eagles and
32:50
a great game and they just couldn't keep up. But he's going to go
32:52
out swinging my coach. I just don't feel like he goes out swinging,
32:55
Mama Mondy, I don't feel like he wont. He just is timid.
33:00
Nature. What you talked about nature is so true is nature is conservative.
33:04
And I've stood on that pulpit the entire time of his ten yere he's conservative
33:08
and he shows it. Mm hmm. And I would add that without trusting
33:15
the people versus trusting the process, you're you're bound to have these things happen.
33:23
The thing I would add, the thing that I would add to to
33:27
what you're saying that is so true is if you if you're trying to control
33:32
things so much, what happens you lose control, Things go out of control,
33:38
Yo, things go out of control, chaos knucklas you white knuckle it
33:45
exactly. And and this is what I think we're seeing. And on top
33:49
of it all you layer it on. Okay, you're not only you're not
33:52
only trying to dictate how the offense performs, you're also trying to dictate how
34:00
the quarterback performs. And that's not his job. That is not his job.
34:07
And I get it, he's the head coach, but it is not
34:12
his job to get inside Josh Allen's head. That's the job of the offensive
34:16
coordinator to figure out what the heck is going on, because this is a
34:21
multifactorial problem that we're having. Because along with what everything that you're saying about
34:27
McDermott in the way that he's approaching things, you can also throw in the
34:31
fact that Josh Allen is a mess right now. He is not thinking clear
34:39
that we're gonna because the bottom the bottom line is they've piled so much on
34:45
him and Josh, you need toes not be sugar high. Josh, you
34:49
need to do this. Josh, maybe you need to talk to you know,
34:52
somebody about low positives or whatever they call it. The bottom line is
34:58
you've layered problem upon on problem. So now you have a control issue with
35:02
the offense as a whole, and it would appear you're having somewhat because you
35:07
are the head coach of a control issue in terms of figuring out the right
35:12
balance of how to let that quarterback, let that bronco, that wild bronco
35:19
who he is and be the best he talks about this, be the best
35:22
version of yourself. How many times have we heard have we heard say that
35:28
at nauseum at nauseum? Yeah, what what happens to the to the preacher's
35:32
kid? What happens they the worst ones? They wide open, They wide
35:38
open, wide open party, and every night they wide open. Yeah,
35:45
I know you're right about that. Listen. I as we begin to transition
35:47
and I know we've got to talk about tomorrow's game. I wanted to everyone,
35:51
just you know, nicol City crew, listen to your quarterback. This
35:53
is your quarterback on yesterday and again we record these on Wednesdays and then obviously
35:59
released on Thursdays on Tuesday. Your quarterback seventeen, the guy on the cover
36:02
of Man and right behind me. I've had some very telling things to say,
36:07
and I would like it for you guys to listen to this about minute
36:08
clip because it's important to get into the psyche. The reason I love having
36:12
Robin on is because she's willing to dig deeper and anybody that wants to question
36:15
her, like I said, put some respect on her name. She she
36:19
knows what she's talking about. That's why I have her on the show.
36:21
I don't just bring on Yahoo's to talk about garbage all day. I mean
36:24
I can do that enough myself. With DT combined listen to your quarterback Nicol
36:30
City Crew, listen to your quarterback Bill's Mafia, because this is a man
36:34
that I'll let you listen. It's he sounds conflicted would be the word best
36:39
best used to describe what I heard yesterday. And we talk about energy and
36:52
face and all those with it. People link to you a lot to see
36:57
the way you play, with the way you play the game. Does that
37:01
when you're having success, like a mindset you can bring to a game of
37:07
maybe going in with a yeah. And I think it comes down to mentality,
37:15
comes down to uh, your your attitude towards it. And you know,
37:21
the last few weeks, really really after week two, I've been trying
37:24
to find a zone where I get myself into throughout the game, trying to
37:29
stay as low as possible because I feel like I performed better that way.
37:31
But you know, maybe I gotta I gotta be more upbeaten and be a
37:36
voice and be a little bit more loud and let my emotions show a little
37:39
bit more. And you know, whether I do that Thursday or not,
37:43
I guess will come with with the execution of it, because obviously everybody's having
37:45
more fun when you're when you're winning football games and performing well. So that's
37:52
first and foremost is you know, we gotta go out there and execute.
37:54
And I think execution breeds energy. What was Yeah? What some philosophy's approach.
38:05
I'm just trying to stay you know, in this in this state called
38:07
little positive where you know your energy is not super high and you're allowing your
38:10
your mind to think and be free and just just you know, stay on
38:15
top of everything. Because obviously, as the quarterback, there's all things going
38:17
through our mind. So if I can limit you know, myself and my
38:22
energy and my heart rate, I feel like I can. I can maybe
38:23
think a little bit more I do. Who knows, Maybe I need to
38:27
think a little bit less and just play football now. I mean, I
38:30
mean d T said, wait, maybe I think a little bit more,
38:36
and then he says, but maybe I did just think a little less,
38:38
Like he doesn't even know what he wants, just kept going back and forth.
38:42
If I can say anything, it's you know what we what? What's
38:45
stress? What we've talked about all day today? Parent? Parent? Who's
38:50
he's not? This isn't seventeen talking. This isn't seventeen talking here Like low
38:55
positive, I need to. You know, we we talked about Josh Allen
38:59
has made it light. He made you know, with going from no nobody
39:04
and believing in himself. He knows he's a baller, he knows he's a
39:07
gamer, he knows he's got dogging him. And now he's up at the
39:10
podium after a couple of rough losses saying like, oh, I'm just trying
39:14
to get on a zero heartbeat. This is who's telling him this, This
39:20
is parent. He is repeating what has been pushed into his head. And
39:23
like Robin said earlier, there's so many things. Go this way, go
39:27
this way, go this way, go this way. And he's like,
39:29
damn, I thought I was just out here being a gamer, being a
39:30
baller. Now I got to do all this other shit, and now I
39:34
have to act like I'm relaying that, you know. So maybe this is
39:37
a subconscious call for help, like I'm I'm low positive. Obviously, von
39:45
Miller says he's a standing. He knows he's a standing. We all know
39:47
Josh is on the cover of Mad because he's crazy. And then he's at
39:52
the podium after a couple of losses saying, I don't want to have a
39:55
heartbeat when I'm playing d T at the end of the Prescott. For a
39:59
couple of minutes after that, he said, I've been speaking to someone and
40:00
externally, so he gave the bread crumbs. He left the bread crumbs.
40:05
Mama Mundy, you have the floor. You are the professional. We are
40:07
not. We are all you know. We've got our conjecture, We've got
40:10
our ideas. I think that it is Sean McDermott that has been meddling in
40:15
the offense, has been trying to get something out of the offense that he
40:17
has wanted since the day Brian Dable left. That's why I named the episode
40:22
the way I did. And I would love for you to just speak to
40:27
Bills Mafia, speak to Nicol City crew about what you just heard, and
40:30
you know better than us what to listen to it. If me and DT
40:32
heard clues in there, I know you heard some things, but it really
40:37
sounded where he does. He sounds conflicted. I am so sorry. He
40:39
sounds like he doesn't know which way is up, Mama Mondy. At this
40:45
point, I don't think he does, because I do think he's been told
40:49
by so many people, you need to do this, and you need to
40:52
do that rather than and when he spoke to speaking to someone externally, I
40:59
can only think that that was a sports psychologist perhaps. Whatever, Well,
41:06
let me get on my soapbox a bit. Because sports psychologists may be poorly
41:14
trained as therapists, their education and their experience is all around sports performance.
41:22
And I would postulate that that's not necessary. That you must be a good
41:29
therapist before you become a sports therapist. In other words, what it sounds
41:37
like to me is somebody who is a cardiologist but not a good doctor.
41:45
Okay, just because you have all these pedigrees does not make you effective at
41:51
what you're doing. And I would argue that because I hear this all the
41:54
time, well, it's such a specialty and we have to focus on only
41:58
the sports. Ask No, you have to focus on being a good therapist.
42:05
And being a good therapist means you have to listen to your client and
42:10
instead of telling your client what to do, this is how you should Behave
42:16
you help that client understand their own behavior and help them come up with the
42:24
right solution. You don't tell them. I need you to be Tom Brady,
42:29
I need you to lower your heart rate. I knew you to be
42:31
low positive. I mean, I don't even know what that shit is.
42:39
You know. The bottom line is Josh needs to be Josh, and there's
42:43
too many people, I think, in his ear telling him how to be.
42:46
And the conflicted, conflicted statement that he made is just what you said,
42:52
and what he said, which is, well, maybe I need to
42:54
just go out and play football. He's conflicted, yes, but that but
42:58
that, but that is really I think his root nature DT. I think
43:00
his root nature was the last part that we played was that he said,
43:04
well, you know it allows me when I'm lower heart rate low positive to
43:07
think more. And then he quickly, just like that, said well maybe,
43:10
I mean maybe I just need to go out there and just play ball.
43:13
It sounded like it sounded like Justin Field's basically, remember Justin Field's got
43:16
in all that trouble because he had said that the Chicago Bears were ruining him
43:20
and this and that. He didn't say that, per say, but he
43:22
said that the coaches were always in his ear and I just need to go
43:23
beat Justin. I just need to go play ball. And everybody tried to
43:27
make fun of them and say all this and that. No, no,
43:29
no, these guys are supreme athletes. They were the top of the top
43:32
DT. They were the best players on their high school team, they were
43:36
one of the best players on their college teams. Then they come to the
43:38
NFL where everybody is the best. How do you gain your edge? How
43:43
do you gain that extra inch, that extra little that makes you separate from
43:47
the rest. And for Josh Allen, it was a young kid from fireball,
43:51
goes to community college, no scholarships, then goes to Wyoming. You
43:55
inaccurate. Everybody's wondering about him. But he's got this strong arm, he's
43:59
got, you know, some legs to him, some mobility. The Bills
44:00
take a chance on him, and he blows up after his roorkieyear, and
44:05
what do you guys do? As the Buffalo Bills DT, we enjoyed the
44:08
best success under Brian Dable with him because Brian Dable understood Josh Allen told him
44:15
what he needed from him professionally. You know, I can't have you thrown
44:17
four picks against New England the second year. But guess what, I'm going
44:22
to let you do what you need to do. I'm gonna call it design
44:23
runs, I'm gonna call trick plays. I'm gonna do different things to help
44:27
the game come easier to you, so that way we can accentuate the best
44:30
things of you and the best things of him. Is why he's literally behind
44:34
me on this mat and twenty four cover because when he's in his zone,
44:37
when he is Josh Allen, he's one of the best that we've ever seen
44:40
played the quarterback position. And I just I can't believe. This is almost
44:45
male practice to me, what McDermott and the crew are doing to this man.
44:47
I mean, it's almost male practice. Nobody's ever going to be fully
44:52
happy, right, That's just the nature of the world we live in.
44:53
It's you know, if it's twenty one, it's ten to the other.
44:57
Nobody's ever gonna be happy when Josh ball in and we're and Mark killing and
45:00
we're winning, and what's the Oh he's running too much, he's being too
45:04
gunslinger. He's gonna get hurt. He's running too much. Now he's not
45:07
doing any of that ship and everybody's like this, this dude sucks, and
45:12
you got to be the happy medium. You're never gonna make anybody happy.
45:17
But you know, I'll take people saying he's got to run less way over
45:22
what we've been dealing with the past three weeks and the reckless ship people are
45:24
saying out there right now, you know, like never not everyone's ever gonna
45:28
be happy no matter what you do, unless you win seven super Bowls in
45:31
a row. But the fact of you know, I would much rather the
45:35
criticism be old Josh than what we're seeing the past couple of weeks, this
45:40
whole season as a matter of fact, And we talked about it on that
45:43
episode. How many times are we gonna see Sugar High, Josh, Robin?
45:45
What's here for us for that episode? I mean, we'll see it
45:49
three times a year. Well then hopefully, like Robin said, hopefully it's
45:52
not in the super Bowl. Hopefully it's not in the AFC Championship game.
45:54
But I still want him to be himself. They are neutering this man.
45:59
And when Nate Geary, I hope to have him one next week with you
46:01
DT so you can finally meet him. When he did his post game it
46:05
sets shockwaves through my Bill's Mafia fandom because he said this, this team will
46:08
not win the super Bowl this way. They are neutering the most lethal weapon
46:13
the NFL has ever seen at the quarterback position. Specifically, he's he's Steve
46:16
Young, He's Brett Favre, He's he's all of them rolled into one concoction.
46:22
And it's an amazing concoction. And yes, sometimes he drives us crazy.
46:25
But if I invite Robin all the way from Wyoming to Charlotte to cook
46:30
me a meal, I will not complain that the kitchen is dirty. I'll
46:32
I'll grab my sponge, I'll grab my soap, and I'll clean the kitchen
46:36
after she just cooked me a gourmet meal. I'm not gonna bitch that the
46:38
kitchen is dirty. You can't bitch over a over a sugar Hi Josh game
46:43
like that. No, we don't want them back to back to back.
46:45
We don't want it to be habit. However, if we get three a
46:47
year or four a year, seventeen games plus playoffs, will take it like,
46:51
I just don't need this neutering and it's this has been really frustrating.
46:54
I don't need the I don't need the unseasoned hicking game four times in a
46:58
row season ticket. I love it. I love it. As we begin
47:02
to transition. Go ahead, Robert, please please go ahead one more thing
47:07
on this, on this, because it's important. I think you just put
47:10
yourself in a situation where you're in an occupation like Josh has okay, and
47:17
if he says, I'm being told or I have to get my heart rate
47:25
down, I have to I have to relax. When you're thinking about how
47:30
you're supposed to behave, you're not free to think about what's going on in
47:35
the field. People are all the X and o's people are like, well,
47:37
he's not seeing the field because of blah blah blah blah. I'll tell
47:40
you why he's not seeing the field because he's not free in his mind.
47:45
Yeah, it sounded like it. It did sound like it. I mean
47:47
there's I don't know who could refute it after some of the evidence that we
47:51
had yesterday and just the evidence on the field itself of play. It's been.
47:54
It's been interesting to watch, and I know that we're going to continue
47:58
to monitor it as we begin to trade position and wrap up tonight. You
48:00
know, the bills obviously play tomorrow. We've got a short week. They
48:04
asked Josh about that at the beginning of that press conference I played for you.
48:07
They asked them, if it's going to be, you know, a
48:07
good thing that they're playing right away, and I'm sure that it can't hurt
48:10
that they get right back out there on the field to be at home tomorrow
48:13
again, Primetime Thursday Night football against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at One Bills Drive
48:17
at the Ralph. It'll be interesting. I think it's on Amazon DT.
48:22
I'll be watching. I know you will as well. Before we get to
48:23
the Nicol City Crew tailgate report, what are you looking at for tomorrow?
48:29
I mean, for me, honestly, I'm losing faith, and I'll be
48:32
honest with both of you, I'm losing faith that it's going to look different.
48:36
I think that McDermott now, with the defensive injuries, one star player
48:39
on each level, I think he's going to lean more on trying to protect
48:44
his guys. And that's again his nature because he's a defensive coach, which
48:47
is why I don't want him even meddling with the offense. I want the
48:51
offense to go out and score as many points as possible, and I feel
48:53
like these last two games, like I said before DT, I feel like
48:57
he's trying to slow the game down. Jeremy White on WGR literally proved it
49:00
with facts from the statistics in the analytics that they are slowing the game down.
49:06
Now they're playing different type of football. I don't know what to expect
49:08
anymore. And I'm almost to a point where I'm throwing my hands up and
49:12
I'll just start to watch the games instead of anticipating what I hope to happen.
49:15
I'll just watch it unfold like I did Sunday, because I'm I'm starting
49:19
to lose a little bit of faith. And I'll be honest, and it
49:21
has nothing to do with McDermott hate or anything like that. It just has
49:24
to do with what I'm seeing on the field, the proofs, I mean,
49:28
the all season. You've seen it. All season. You've seen it.
49:30
So I never want anybody to be heard, never want a videout of
49:32
the lineup. Dawson Knox has not performed this year up to our standards,
49:37
but he's been a big part of the success of this team and getting Josh
49:39
rolling. Anyway, He's out risk surgery, Concaid's in, Quinton Morris is
49:45
out. This twelve personnel bullshit might be like to bet it literally has to
49:50
be. They literally don't have another tight act Gillian or you know, or
49:54
they're wanted yeah, okay, so they're done the tall personnel this week,
50:00
looking for up tempo. Okay, rolling, if we win the toss,
50:04
take the freaking ball and go down there and get up fourteen nothing on these
50:07
bitches early and and let's get let's get re routed and let's get you know,
50:13
back somewhat. We're not all the way back beating the beating an NFC
50:16
team on a Thursday night whatever, but we need that. We need some
50:20
we need some temple. And you know, going into a mini bye week
50:24
of what after that is it's a real meat on the schedule. There's some
50:30
real meat on the schedule coming up. You have to get out a quick
50:32
start, quick temple, take the ball first, get loose, and get
50:36
back. So that's that's what I'm hoping for. I don't I don't blame
50:38
your Rod for for not you know, expecting anything different. You know,
50:43
I'm going should be a you know, decent night with great weather. We
50:45
can buffalo by the way out here, so beautiful, let's lock in,
50:49
let's enjoy one of these last good weather games of the year and go out
50:52
and and and hang a bunch of points on these guys. Mama Monday taking
50:55
everything until talently. What you heard from Josh, what we've heard from Shaw
50:59
mc dermott. What are you looking for tomorrow? I know again these episodes
51:02
were released on Thursday, so hopefully people get a chance to listen to this
51:06
before they kick off. What what what are you looking for? I'm looking
51:10
for some kind of consensus consistency, not the overreactive herky jerky stuff that we've
51:22
been seeing in these last In these last few games, the defense is wounded,
51:29
yes, yes it is. They may be wounded beyond repair. I
51:31
don't know, maybe, but the offense has to play to almost perfection at
51:39
this point to help the defense along, to carry them exactly exactly. And
51:46
this is coach doesn't want to score points. And once the slow game down,
51:51
I mean, in limited possessions, that's gonna make it hard, it's
51:53
gonna be it leaves little room for error. If you start limiting possessions,
51:57
that leaves little room for error exactly. And I do believe that this could
52:02
be a really good game for the Bills to get back on track. This
52:07
is what I'm hoping that we're going to see is rhythm in the offense.
52:14
So we have James Cook, who's putting out what four point seven yards per
52:20
carry or something like that. Right now, it's not a matter of a
52:28
balanced attack, I don't think as much as it is to know when you
52:32
are supposed to run the ball and when you throw the ball, and when
52:37
you are supposed to run the ball. You see them not running the ball,
52:43
and when they are supposed to pass the ball, they're not passing the
52:46
ball to run it. I mean, that's that's the thing. Give me,
52:54
give me a break. But what we really need to see from this
52:59
offense is consistency and allowing these players to get into a rhythm. That's the
53:06
other thing that that you see. We've had such a focus on Stephan Diggs.
53:12
It's like, why do we even sign sherfield? Yeah, they don't
53:21
let hard on the field on the field, and and I'll be straight up,
53:27
I'd like to see more of the ball being spread around. And to
53:31
this point, I'm not overly enthralled with how Gabe Davis has been playing.
53:44
And he's not put he's not producing. So why are we not use Shakier?
53:51
For example? Shaquier is a very solid wide receiver, but we don't
53:57
get him on the field enough. Electric don't let him play. I mean,
54:00
they don't throw the ball to to Shorefield. They don't do they don't
54:04
do a lot of stuff right now that I'm sure Brian Dable would would have
54:07
tried to accentuate. So it'll be interesting. It's it's gonna be fun to
54:10
watch tomorrow night again. These episodes released on Thursday, but I'm going to
54:15
be very, very excited. I really appreciate both of you guys tonight in
54:17
your time again. Please check her out the editor in chief at buffalofanbase dot
54:22
com again a Buffalo Bill's podcast network, Bill's moffy excuse Me podcast Network Robin
54:28
Monday r O B y N m N d y W y oh that stands
54:31
for Yoming. Check her out on Twitter. We love you, Mama Monday.
54:36
Before we get to the Tailgate report, we just wanted to thank you
54:38
again because your insight means a lot. And I know that I'm gonna listen
54:43
to this episode at least two or three times because I just love listening to
54:46
you break down the brain because I do think that a quarterback, our quarterback
54:52
is confused. I think that he's conflicted. I think he's got a lot
54:54
going on right now. And I think that it kind of shows in his
54:58
play. It shows in the way like DT spoke about like he's not sure
55:00
how he's even supposed to address the media anymore, and he's supposed to convey
55:05
a certain type of person. And the key thing that's going to stick with
55:07
me if you try to tell somebody how to act it, you know they're
55:12
going to be thinking about that and not what they've got to be thinking about,
55:14
and that is that is that's just the most backward ship that I've ever
55:16
heard ever. So I know that you're you're you're onto something for sure.
55:20
We really appreciate your time again tonight. I love being with you guys,
55:24
Seriously, I love you DT. I love your perspective. You like ground
55:31
me when when I listened to it, he does he grounds me. Yeah,
55:36
he is ground And it helps because I was about ready somebody had to
55:42
pick me off the ceiling after that game against the Patriots. It was it
55:46
was, it was. We're very similar, Robin, We're very similar.
55:51
I'm a little bit crazier the DT. DT always is talking me off lesssuh.
55:54
He's been doing it for since the beginning of the of the crew.
55:58
So I do appreciate his levity wations. Yeah. Absolutely. All right,
56:02
Well, let's as we transition tonight to wrap up the Nickel City Crew Tablet
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and I've got to find a way to parlay that on to Twitter as well.
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But we've had a great time with it again, the Nickel City Crew
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to get that on the work. So we're working on that as well.
56:50
But DT, I mean, my weekend was crazy, was jam packed.
56:53
You already know how it is with the Kings I've got three kings and they
56:57
take up a lot of my time. Bobby was in the playoffs, had
57:00
another football game on Saturday, and then it was Nate's birthday party weekend.
57:05
His birthday was Monday, but it was his party weekend. So we had
57:07
just tons of stuff going on, and Saturday was full of events. And
57:13
then Sunday comes around and I get told by my ex wife and I got
57:16
to take Bobby to my brother's house for my nephew's birthday party because they are
57:22
a couple weeks apart, and like, I got to take him over there.
57:24
And then I said, well, what times a party start? And
57:28
then she says one o'clock and my eyes get big. I'm like, are
57:30
you kidding me? And she's like, yeah, yeah, I mean that's
57:34
them, you know they're they're doing it at one o'clock. I'm like,
57:37
oh my god. So Bobby, we got to get in the car.
57:38
I've got to get ready to go. I got it streaming DT and then
57:42
I drop them off and I have to pick him back up. What I
57:44
have to pick him back up at four o'clock of course, so you know
57:46
what I mean. So I rushed back home and I watched the game DT,
57:50
streaming it right in my garage, right before I went back to pick
57:52
up Bobby from my nephew's party. But it was crazy just watching it consuming
57:58
it obviously, like Rob, and I was disappointed I could have. You
58:01
know, I was yelling, you know, to say the least. I
58:05
was yelling a lot. But I'm interested to knowing how you enjoyed the game,
58:08
because I was just down here just doing daddy duty and kind of just
58:12
chilling out man then and children in the garage for the actual game itself.
58:15
Well, I had, you know, kind of an opposite weekend, y.
58:20
I was out in Minnesota, out in Minneapolis with Nicole City Faples,
58:24
Time Page, Big Vikings, fans of the program. They go out to
58:29
one game a year and I tagged along to kind of see the city and
58:32
you know what it was about. And vice was forty nine ers Monday Night.
58:36
So had a great weekend throughout their early Saturday hit them all of America
58:40
did all that went to many many steakhouse downtown Minneapolis Saturday night. Rob until
58:46
I send you this tomahawk, Oh oh man, this is right? Yeah,
58:54
yeah, you want to fall in love? Yeah? Oh it was
58:59
good. It was good, and then Sunday rolled up. I knew I
59:00
was talking shit. Trying to get a uh a bill, trying to get
59:04
to a bills you wanted to look for a bills Bob, couldn't couldn't find
59:07
one, the one on the bills backer website, which I'm gonna I got
59:10
a little qualm of the Bill's back website, you know, something that I
59:14
thought was popping all over the They have one in Minneapolis. The guy never
59:17
emails me back for three months. I called the place that it's like supposed
59:21
to be at and it's a bowling alley and they're like, oh yeah,
59:23
Sunday ticket priced us out, So you got to get off that website come
59:31
on. Like so I was a little disappointed. Did had a beautiful airbnb
59:37
though, so we just you know, did it did it right? Did
59:38
h got the shrimp cocktail going, got it rolling, and uh watched the
59:43
game from the you know airbnb, which is good, nice, relaxing Sunday,
59:45
cool to see the game. Went tough, but it was probably the
59:47
best situation to be in on vacation, not in Buffalo. W g R.
59:53
Sure it was not dark at five o'clock where I'm like, you know,
59:57
an hour behind there, so games at noon, you know, we've
1:00:00
and you know, have a good night. And so it was the best
1:00:02
situation I could have been into. To handle the loss, I'd say,
1:00:06
but a good weekend out there. And then you know, Monday, I
1:00:08
got to get props to you know, the Vikings go out there, Niners
1:00:14
football. What an electric setup they got out there in Minneapolis. I mean
1:00:19
there's nothing like the ralph on third down and getting routy, and I wouldn't
1:00:23
trade it for the world obviously, but you know, the presentation in the
1:00:27
stadium and the vibe and the fight wars and yeah, oh my gosh,
1:00:31
it's like so next level, you know, from from what we see of
1:00:36
you know, Andre read this week, Hey, where would you rather be?
1:00:39
And then it's like this is the next level step, you know,
1:00:43
so and they come out and shout out to you know, this is the
1:00:46
NFL's We talked about the Bills getting back on track, and any given Sunday,
1:00:50
any given Monday, any given Thursday, you know, these teams can
1:00:52
beat each other. They're all professionals and and it was a perfect example with
1:00:58
the Minnesota Vikings and a team win led by their quarterback her cousins, and
1:01:02
you know, Justin Jefferson, the best receiver in football's out and we'll still
1:01:06
find a way to be one of the best teams in the NFL. So
1:01:09
great weekend overall, had a really good time out there. Literally, I
1:01:13
was telling Kayan Page on a flight home, that's last night, like not
1:01:16
out of ten. Weekend obviously would have been ten to ten if the Bills
1:01:19
could, you know, make it happen. But I was in the perfect
1:01:22
place to ye about it Monday night when we're out, you know, having
1:01:29
a good time on Monday night, and ye fly back today. I'm back
1:01:31
and some things ready, and then we got a big day plan. We're
1:01:34
out. We're out at the game tomorrow with the boys. Got a crew
1:01:37
taking a twelve pass year van down there. Are gonna have a good time
1:01:39
out you know, on Thursday night to to revamp it and get it going.
1:01:43
Gonna be a beautiful night. Seventy degrees sixty five by kickoff, Gonna
1:01:45
beautiful out there. So overall, great week great weekend, and you know,
1:01:51
let's let's let's forget about it and roll back. I'm on the flight
1:01:53
last night Buffalo to Mini direct Or Mini the Buffalo direct A couple of people
1:01:58
with their bill shirts on, A couple of Bucks fans coming in town.
1:02:01
A couple the gold bills are still popping on the plane. Walking to my
1:02:06
seat. Hey gois we'll get that? Oh yeah, oh yeah. It's
1:02:09
a way of life. It's a way of life. I did post my
1:02:13
tickets. I'm not sure if I'll be able to get up there if they
1:02:15
sell. Obviously I won't, but there's still like it is this always an
1:02:19
itch, Robin, just like just can't It's been like that, and you
1:02:21
know, I call, I was like, listen, I might dip tomorrow,
1:02:24
you know what I mean in the morning, early in the morning,
1:02:25
and can you take the voice to practice? And you know, so,
1:02:29
I don't know necessarily, I won't officially say I'm going or officially say I
1:02:32
won't, but I did post the tickets just in case I can't go,
1:02:35
because I've got a lot going on down here and this last week of football
1:02:38
for Bobby and last practice tomorrow and then the final playoff game Saturday. So
1:02:43
we'll see Mama Monday. How did you enjoy it out in Wyoming? I'm
1:02:45
interested because DT just experiencing bills in an hour before. You're two hours before,
1:02:51
so you're one o'clock is eleven o'clock Eastern, And I mean that it's
1:02:55
crazy. What what? What? How did you and your husband consume it?
1:02:59
Because we are interested as we wrap up tonight, Nicol, here's what
1:03:02
you need to know. I don't consume it with my husband. Okay,
1:03:07
I do not watch the Bills with my husband because in the nineties when they
1:03:14
lost four Super Bowls in a row, Yes, my husband was so traumatized,
1:03:23
and I know he wants it for me, but he drives me nuts.
1:03:29
So he watches the game because, oh, they're gonna They're not gonna
1:03:32
get this. They're not going to do Thatty into the room. We haven't.
1:03:39
We have an arrangement, and and so what I do most of the
1:03:45
time is watch the game by myself, sequestered in our bedroom with the doors
1:03:52
closed and feeling free to emote whatever happens to emote at the time. And
1:04:00
it works for me. I love. We don't have a Bills Backer situation
1:04:06
in Wyoming. Sort of they do, but it's down in Laramie, which
1:04:11
is like three hundred miles from where I live. Oh, yeah, that's
1:04:13
note. And there are a lot of Bills fans now, mind you,
1:04:16
in Wyoming because of Josh. It's a big deal now. So I would
1:04:23
have friends that I could go and hang out with, and I may still
1:04:26
do that before the end of the season. But I'm really quite content to
1:04:30
just watch the game by myself. Yeah, and I understand that's how it
1:04:34
was for me Sunday. I mean, I had too much stuff going on,
1:04:38
and then you know, dropping Bobby off at the party and having to
1:04:40
pick them up. I just sat in the garage watching it by myself,
1:04:42
put it on the speaker and let me and the neighbors he listened to it,
1:04:45
and as I'm cussing out the offense and cussing out everything that was going
1:04:49
on every time the Patriots stroved out. So listen, I appreciate you both
1:04:54
tonight, appreciate your your time as always. Uh listen, joint. I
1:04:58
mean, DT, you made me promised that I was gonna get on this
1:05:00
roller coaster with you, man, and I promise I'm on it with you.
1:05:03
But I I mean, I swear somebody could have just put me in
1:05:06
a in a cave and woke me up with the playoffs started, and I
1:05:09
wouldn't have to go through any of this ship because I had to get this
1:05:12
stuff off my chest. Oh my gosh, driving me crazy. But I'm
1:05:16
hoping that, you know, somebody gets in this year at least and and
1:05:20
and and releases Josh, release him, let him play how he's gonna play.
1:05:25
It's okay. The gourmet meal is gonna be so good, DT.
1:05:28
It's gonna be like that Tomahawk steak that you had in downtown Minneapoli. It's
1:05:31
gonna be so good. It's gonna be like butter. The kitchen's gonna be
1:05:34
dirty, and we don't care about we can't bitch. I love it.
1:05:40
I love it. I love it, DT. Do you agree? Man?
1:05:42
Let this Let Josh, Let Josh cook. And they would say make
1:05:45
him russy. Hey. Here here in in western New York, he got
1:05:48
six flags Darien Lake, and growing up, you know, going there and
1:05:53
see the Superman, the big roller coaster Superman. It was knowing to get
1:05:58
stuck going up the hill. Once or twice a day, it would get
1:06:01
stuck and people would be up there that they'd be on that sucker four hundred
1:06:05
feet up there, just vertical, you know, suck, but eventually they
1:06:11
get some w D forty whenever they do to get it going, and that
1:06:14
roller coaster goes and it goes up and it goes down, but when it
1:06:16
goes back into the station, you're like, damn, that was a good
1:06:19
time. That was a great right, that's all we got to ride with
1:06:21
the day. You know, we're stuck on the way up. But I
1:06:25
like that. Everybody's got w you know, every team's got a little source
1:06:29
of W forty somewhere, hopefully like our quarterback. Yeah, absolutely, hopefully
1:06:33
that and hopefully this is his therapeutic to the rest of the Bill's mafia that
1:06:36
was ready to pull their hair out like we were on Sunday. Well,
1:06:40
we'll get back to it tomorrow night. Everybody enjoyed the game. Please be
1:06:43
safe as always, spread love not hate. These were my bills thoughts,
1:06:46
set out loud. Hit them with a go bills, Mama, Monday DT.
1:06:50
You know when to go Bills, Please bills low, bills five and
1:06:55
three go. He doesn't every week. I love it.