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Random Heathen Ramblings: S4, EP21 - "Oh, The HUMANITY!" (Viewer Request feat. Sid Ryder Of Inner Demon Media) · Random Heathen Ramblings

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  Hello everyone and welcome to the random Heathen ramblings
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  podcast, where we discuss all sorts of things Germanic,
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  Heathen re related. My name is Jessie.
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  I am your host. Let's get into it.
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  Well, well, well, hello, and welcome back.
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  Everyone to this week's episode. Oh, the random Heathen ramblings
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  podcast. Good to be back.
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  Good to be here to talk a bit about Humanity with a special
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  guest. This is a viewer request
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  actually, and You know, I appreciate everyone who's taking
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  the time out of their day to comment and right into the
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  recommendations, your voices are being heard.
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  We are rattling, these things along, just just rattling along,
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  man, you know, just Get them done and I appreciate it.
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  It makes for good conversation. I think it Sparks a lot of good
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  dialogue across the interwebs and just across people's, you
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  know, in her circles to I think that are like to think that the
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  conversations that get shared here and and stuff get expounded
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  upon or add it to outside of what even I'm aware of or privy
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  to. So, you know, you guys are
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  awesome, guys, and gals and Nari folks and everybody that, you
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  know, wants to be involved. Thank you so much.
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  I appreciate it. But yes, today's guest is Sid
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  writer, you may recognize him from the inner demon media show
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  his. He's got a couple shows,
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  actually, maybe more than a couple, but he's going to talk
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  more about that when he gets here.
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  But, yeah, say it's got a, got a show every week called talking
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  with heathens. He's he's he co-hosts that show,
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  Papa Olufsen and him do that and they have guests on from time to
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  time and I've been a guest on that show more than once.
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  So it seems only fitting to have Sid come and be a guest here on
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  my show. We're going to talk about, you
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  know, what's it is doing and his, you know, how he's using
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  his social media platforms and then we're just, you know, we're
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  going to talk about Humanity, what that Take a look at
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  humanity and you can you can come up with what you think this
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  is going to be about because I sure don't we're going to ramble
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  on about it guys. As we do here on this podcast,
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  but before, before we get into that, I do want to remind
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  everyone that here in just a few days actually here in just two
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  days on Saturday, June 24th and Murfreesboro Tennessee, the
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  tribe that I am a part of hurry. The folk is Having a potluck
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  Meetup sort of deal. It's a potluck Park moot.
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  That was really, really twangy. Yes, it's a park moot.
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  So we're having, you know, food and fellowship.
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  And we invite everyone here in the region to come out for an
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  afternoon of that, you know, food and fellowship.
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  It rain or shine. It's going to be here in
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  Murfreesboro at the general. Bragg Trailhead details for that
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  So if you're thinking of something you want to do it's
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  going to Up in the later half of the day.
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  So it's from 3 p.m. to 8 p.m. that was the time that I was
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  able to book The Pavilion that we're going to be at.
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  And it's again it's myself and my tribesmen and my wife and
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  Friends of the tribe and we just want to kind of give the
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  Even tribe. That's in Middle Tennessee.
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  ears, we get more eyes, we get more engagement and that my
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  friends is what it's all about. So let's go ahead and get Sid
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  in. Here to ramble on a bit here,
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  what he's up to what his social media platform is all about and
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  talk about. Humanity.
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  Let's get into it Road. All right, folks, we've got Sid
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  Rider here on the random human ramblings podcast.
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  You might recognize him from his show, inner demon media.
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  He's got, actually a bunch of shows, right?
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  Said that you can have a bunch, a bunch of things, really, but
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  you've been on with, Papa on, you're talking with ease and
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  heathens show every Wednesday. Now, for quite some time, I've
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  been an honored guest there and I figured man, it's time to get
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  you over here on this side of the, thank you for having me.
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  Yeah, I am at. Thanks for, thanks for being
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  available on a such short. Notice I'm all up last-minute
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  stuff myself to be fair. That's my wheelhouse.
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  Is it? Oh yeah, tired, I could spit.
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  I got two weeks ahead of something scheduled and I'll
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  wait till the night before or sometimes, like, during the talk
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  with even show I like to change or intro videos out, right?
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  And one, I've waited. I literally waited to like 30
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  minutes before the show came on and I forgot.
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  I was like, oh man. I forgot that I didn't have an
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  intro video so I'm I work the best when I'm under pressure,
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  especially at last minute things, even though I got weeks
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  the planet to get it done. I usually wait till the last
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  minute to do it. Yeah, it's theirs.
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  It's kind of exhilarating in a way and it like Yeah, well yeah,
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  it is. Really be fair.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Like you got this idea this plan and then oh wait, no, we're
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  going off on this way and see how it goes, you know, it's kind
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  of excited. That's how that's how it is.
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  I thrive on last-minute things. Waiting, you just wait for the
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  last minute. I thrive on.
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  I love it. I love the pressure that I put
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  on my shoulders, when I do it. Maybe that's why I wait to the
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  last minute. Was I enjoy that that pressure,
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  I put on my shoulders. You think it, you think it
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  really? You think it kind of defines
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  your content and the way you present yourself on your shows
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  like that, you say that that last minute kind of pressure,
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  you think that that kind of puts you in that headspace to be the
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  host that you that you've become for your shows?
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  I yeah, because I think I think for me, I could, I can, I could
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  sit around put on my board like topics for the show but I never
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  never do. I consider if I wanted to and
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  think of topics for the show's over the next two or three
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  months, but I'm almost type of guys that Sometimes once again,
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  I'll wait to the last minute for decide what the show is going to
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  be about this because I want to feel inspired.
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  I want if some Universe has a weird way, sometimes.
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  Connecting with me and saying hey this is what the message
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  going to be tonight. I can start the week off with
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  one idea for a show and then light the last minute, the
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  universe is like, no, you're going to talk about this.
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  Hmm. And so I never really try to
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  plan ahead because sometimes me planning ahead it's pointless
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  because there's They still might see something or experience,
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  something during the week that inspired me is.
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  So I'm going to take that. What I felt that inspiration
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  that I was feeling. I like to bring that onto the
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  show and try to get people to connect with the inst.
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  Why this inspired why this is inspired me.
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  What was the what the experience was like for me and I'll I got
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  inspired why why I like for me I'm really big about bringing a
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  talking about mental health and addictions And overcoming
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  clothes on. I'm a Survivor myself.
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  I was an addict for almost a decade and then I got myself
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  clean and I've been now clean for about close to eight years.
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  Congrats, but I got a son to it. I'm I lost my son last year due
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  to overdose, and is his a drug addiction.
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  So, now sticking to a different meaning for me now.
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  So, a lot of what I do my post where I try to inspire people
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  through my posts with my words that I say.
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  And some people never to give up.
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  There's has a deeper meaning for me now, because now I'm, I'm
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  taking what my me losing. My son that experience, and
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  bring it into the public, to let the people know that are
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  watching. What I do that.
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  If there are, if they're going through something like this, it
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  makes them feel that they're not alone.
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  Yeah. Absolutely, that's really
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  important for me. That is, oh yeah, we can tell
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  human connection, that that human like the title of show
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  Humanity, how to bring in Manatee into our past.
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  And that's work. That's where it really plays in
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  for me. I'm connecting on The Human Side
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  of the people that watch what I do and hear what I do on radio
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  shows. You would look, you would think
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  with the image that I have inner demon media like with the demons
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  and it's kind of dark themed. Yeah, but it totally is the
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  opposite of what inner demon media means.
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  Release your inner demons is the catch line or The Catch Phrase,
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  right? Lease your inner demons.
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  Yep. That's what.
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  That's the catch phrase. Release your inner, the inner
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  demons, we all have them. We just choose not to hide them.
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  Gotcha. So it's like embracing the the
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  less than Savory parts of ourselves and leveraging and
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  maybe to achieve the things that we may not be able to achieve
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  otherwise. Maybe well there's there has we
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  use you've been doing this for a long time now you know that
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  there's there's a certain balance you got to have in your
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  life and you have to kind of embrace.
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  Both aspects of who you are as individual.
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  You have you've grown, you've gone through wife and you're
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  growing and you become who you are today.
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  But there's still those things in your, in your past, that
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  you've done that, we tend to kind of like hide.
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  So away in our file cabinet in our brain, and just kind of
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  followed away and put it in the drawer, in the back of that
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  drawer and forget. Try to forget about it, where I
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  feel we should, we should face these things and bring those
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  things into our shadow work basically.
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  But I try to make it more, not so much spiritual way of doing
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  it. But more of a human way of Of
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  touching somebody and then they'll then they start seeing
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  the badge excite of it that the most important thing in Magic is
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  that's right. And if they people start
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  noticing the things that are happening, that's good in their
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  life. They feel that Joy, they feel
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  that happiness. And then what they want to stop
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  having more and more and more. So we could touch person at a
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  human level. It will enhance their path the
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  walkthrough and in their lives right now.
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  Yeah. And I think that to your point,
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  you know, putting that human element and Get something
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  tangible that. You know sometimes people I
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  think may get this idea of spirituality and others these
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  types of woo things. You know it's something you
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  can't see feel touch taste smell, you know.
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  None of those physical senses that we all possess or a lot of
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  us possess and in various ways, you know, it's not present there
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  with that. But when we, when we put put a
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  face to it, when we, when we make it something more of the
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  mundane or the I ain't even that becomes relatable and then we
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  see that magic as you say, existing within us and we
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  realized just how much Magic is is present in the world and how
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  much control we have over things.
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  We're really not just out here, you know, hurling through space
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  at, you know, mind-numbing speeds with without any sort of
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  course or without any sort of Direction.
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  I mean, if there's purpose behind things, as chaotic as it
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  may seem sometimes, and as crazy as it can be, there's purpose
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  behind it and connecting. With all parts of ourselves,
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  even the darkest, and most unpleasant parts of ourselves,
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  really rounds, everything around it all out.
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  I think, you know, it's a tough thing to.
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  It's tough for people, especially that we really have
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  to face certain things that they've done in their past.
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  They kind of come out in the open, all the sudden out of
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  nowhere. And here they are, you know,
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  trying to deal with these past things that that's happened to
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  him whether it's trauma self. Trauma, or Trauma coming from
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  other people or something has been done to them.
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  That's really bad. It's kind of scarred him for
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  life. They hide, they run from it.
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  They and when it comes out into the in their face again, they
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  they just don't like dealing with it, but it's tough, It's
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  hard. Because you have to be
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  remembering all these things that's happened, bad to you.
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  And here's the thing, and I think we're swear body, really?
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  Kind of Gets confused with it all.
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  When it comes to bad things. Let's think about it when it
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  comes to bad things, they don't happen very often.
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  There's a lot of good things, happen more, so in your life
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  then you realize. But when those bad things come
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  around and they happen they stick around because they don't
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  happen that much. So why not spend your time
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  thinking about all the good things that you have?
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  You do you know what I made? I made I made a mistake.
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  Okay big big fucking deal. I can move on because we're you
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  know what? Or My something happened, bad to
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  you, maybe you lost a loved one, you can sit there and dwell on
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  it or you can take that one bad thing that happened and try to
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  turn it into something positive and start thinking about the
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  good things, the good times that, you know, the time that
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  you spent with them. Once again, we very bad things
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  happen. Sure, they do.
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  Oh, yeah. It's the way we have to think
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  about how these think about how we approach the bad thinks, they
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  don't happen that fucking much and that's why they stick in
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  your head for so long because you don't have a bunch of bad
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  things happen and you start missing all the good things in
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  life to happy moments in life. Well, it's like that old saying
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  goes, you know that impressions are the lasting ones, you know,
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  you, you have a bad experience at or you go out to eat, right?
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  Every good restaurant, that you go to you hardly ever hear about
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  the good reviews of restaurants. All you ever hear about is
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  people complaining about the bad experience?
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  They had because they had to wait 20 minutes for their yes or
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  no. That actually had a good dinner
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  had great service but there's no fucking place to put that in
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  there. Yeah.
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  So I think humans as a, you know, we almost have this
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  inherent tendency to when when tragedy strikes or when when
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  negative things happen in our lives.
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  It's almost like we're predisposed to just Be sucked
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  into that on the long-term basis, maybe more.
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  So some people more so than others.
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  And in not all negative, things are measured the same way,
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  right? I mean, let's face it.
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  Like if you made a bad decision and you got arrested and you
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  went to jail, that's different than if somebody violated your
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  privacy raped somebody or something like that, like
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  there's different levels of and Trigger warning, sorry.
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  I didn't preface that but like you know, tragedies and negative
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  things that happen to people are not.
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  All measured equally and they're not all the same.
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  And the way that people respond is different to, some people
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  respond with aggression, some people become very reclusive and
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  draw inward. To the point of, I think that's
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  Solitude, I think people go through all the above, I think
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  they go. They're like, yeah, I think
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  everybody goes through all the above.
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  They just some of those levels, they don't show as much as the
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  next level, you know. If you're grieving, you're kind
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  of pulling yourself back. So, nobody sees that that when
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  you're angry You're in your voice and everybody sees that,
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  right. So I think are behind it kind of
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  goes through these phases of let's say from losing someone
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  you know you go through the I miss them and the tears, the
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  crying. And then you go through the next
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  phase of you know, angry let's say.
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  Ain't you getting angry? Yeah, I think he I think the
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  kids up for me. I've been kind of went off and
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  on practice and some form of magic.
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  In my life for 25 years. And I the older I've gotten The
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  more. I've I've I've got a little bit
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  more of an understanding of other people's paths and whether
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  I frankly don't care if you're a Christian, I don't care if
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  you're a Norse Pagan, I don't care if you're a Satanist II
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  care less what I look for now in an individual is who they are
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  weathers, their moral code. How are they now?
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  Getting through life. And you I want I want to I want
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  to see that the human side of the person you can know all you
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  want and whatever practice that you you that you do.
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  But for me it doesn't make a bit of difference if you walking
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  around cocky. Well, I know everything I know
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  all this but that doesn't matter to me either.
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  I want to see The Human Side of the person.
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  I want to see the who the person is a decided to go down this
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  path and learn all these things. X, that's where I'm at.
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  I don't care what anybody practices anymore, and I don't
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  care what I practice anymore. I don't, I don't have one
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  certain path in where I realized that my magic comes with it.
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  In the, it's the human, The Human Side of Me, the emotions,
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  you know me expressing myself. That's for me, it's for the
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  Magics at all. This other stuff is to meet for
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  me means nothing anymore. That means something.
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  But Not at the Deep level that I've had that I've come to him
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  my life. Now 25 years of messing with all
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  kinds of different magic practices when witchcraft the
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  devil worshipping Satanism, I've explored all of it and I come to
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  one saying, none of that would have been here if it wasn't for
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  the human person that person creating it.
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  Yeah, I saw something the other day on a few, you know, like
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  Neil deGrasse Tyson starts on StarTalk I think is is where he
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  puts a lot of his content stuff. And I saw something the other
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  day where he and I don't know how old the interview was but he
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  interviewed Stephen Hawking and they were talking about or he
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  brought up. I don't remember exactly the way
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  it was worded but religion and science were the topic of his
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  question and during the interview and You know, I think
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  one of the things that Hawking said was that you know, before
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  science became a focus or something that humans.
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  Started really learning about, you know, religion religiosity,
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  right? That was the thing that early
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  humans developed to explain things that were bigger than
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  they are. And now we have more studies and
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  science that can explain it and sort of, you know, rationalize
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  the things that at a time in history and in human history.
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  Would be considered magical, you know, they still are magical but
• 22:00
  again that's like the science behind a kiss explain.
• 22:03
  And so when it comes to beliefs religion spirituality, I'm kind
• 22:09
  of with you with that, you know, titles names of things, you
• 22:12
  know, how we want to classify ourselves while I'm a, I'm a,
• 22:16
  you know, Continental Germanic Pagan, oh, really?
• 22:18
  Well, I'm an Eclectic juridic which or IMA this or that, I
• 22:21
  mean, Cool. But what does it really matter
• 22:26
  in the grand scheme of things? You know, how are we connecting
• 22:29
  with our fellow? You could be whoever you are,
• 22:32
  you can be wherever you are, whatever path you want to
• 22:34
  follow. But if, if you as a person as a
• 22:39
  person who has no morals, oh yeah, your trash, and it doesn't
• 22:43
  matter if you call yourself the Pope's grandson.
• 22:45
  You know, that's it, that's it. You're still, you're still a
• 22:47
  piece of trash show you just so happens to be the postgres.
• 22:51
  Show me your soul. So so show me who you are as a
• 22:55
  person, I don't want. And for me, it's kind of sitting
• 22:59
  back and watching what a person does, you know, content they put
• 23:04
  out in public, what's there? What is there?
• 23:08
  What's their main goal are? They wanting to help people
• 23:11
  inspire people? Or are they out there?
• 23:13
  Trying to make a buck? Yeah, and I see a lot of people
• 23:16
  out there that are trying to make a buck, and I just usually
• 23:19
  kind of steer away from those type of people.
• 23:21
  You don't take long to figure out that No, they're not,
• 23:24
  they're not the spiritual gurus that they try to claim to be
• 23:28
  either this out there creating content just to get try to get
• 23:32
  paid and you will see that lot in the card reader World.
• 23:35
  You'll they'll yes mediumship mediums out there.
• 23:38
  Tell you well life coaches. Yeah.
• 23:41
  I mean I don't mean nobody tell me how to run my fucking lock,
• 23:45
  so austere away from those people and you know, I want to
• 23:48
  make mistakes. Yeah, that's where he learned
• 23:52
  you know, and it's it's part of, you know, we're talking about
• 23:56
  and I just want to give credit to where credit is due.
• 23:58
  Because again this the content of this podcast, the topic of
• 24:00
  this podcast comes from a subscriber viewer, follower, its
• 24:05
  name is Michael and his specific response to what should we talk
• 24:09
  about on the random? Even ramblings podcast?
• 24:10
  You know, was we should talk about what it means to have
• 24:14
  Humanity. You know, so we're talking about
• 24:17
  all these things right now, just right off the rip, just getting
• 24:19
  right into the, you know, digging digging right in.
• 24:21
  Well, this I love this kind of conversation.
• 24:23
  Oh, man, and you know, to have Humanity, you know, some of the
• 24:26
  things you're talking about, you know, exposing ourselves and
• 24:30
  allowing others to see a bit inside of us again, not to be so
• 24:36
  revelatory that we're sacrificing our integrity or
• 24:41
  doing things that could be potentially harmful because it
• 24:42
  can you open yourself up to a lot when you Just put yourself
• 24:47
  out there in general. You'll get a lot of criticism is
• 24:50
  putting yourself out there. What's this guy about?
• 24:52
  What's he doing? Let's see, we resent, but so
• 24:55
  much of this, you know, I think we were talking about before it
• 24:58
  made me think of the word empathy.
• 25:00
  Well that's, and that is a huge part of what it means to have
• 25:04
  Humanity. I think, you know, realizing
• 25:07
  that we're not all the same that there are things that work for
• 25:10
  some people that don't for others.
• 25:12
  And just because it doesn't work for for Sid, doesn't mean it
• 25:14
  might not work for Jesse or the next person, or this or that,
• 25:18
  but understanding That everybody is an individual.
• 25:22
  Everybody has their own different ways of doing things
• 25:24
  and to be empathetic towards people's discovery of
• 25:27
  themselves, right? You were talking about being
• 25:30
  inspirational and saying things, you never know what you might
• 25:32
  say, and how it might impact someone's life for good or bad.
• 25:38
  And a lot of people just give out get on these on and it's
• 25:42
  made, so easy. Nowadays with the easy access to
• 25:47
  technology to put your, put your face, put your voice.
• 25:50
  Put your persona on a platform. You never know what somebody's
• 25:54
  going through. And the thing that you might
• 25:56
  say, could have a positive impact and then you never know
• 25:59
  what you might say. Could really, you know, have a
• 26:03
  negative impact. We just we don't know if it's a
• 26:05
  have that empathy and to realize that we're all in this together,
• 26:08
  man. We're all here at this exact
• 26:10
  same point in time. The chances of you and I
• 26:12
  existing right now, in the same Century at the same, you know,
• 26:20
  Talking like this, like the chances of this happening have
• 26:23
  got to be like, in the, the, you know, you're probably more
• 26:26
  likely to get struck by lightning, while being at, but
• 26:28
  eaten by a shark then for stuff like this, you know, I mean,
• 26:31
  like you think about it from the moment you were conceived all
• 26:34
  the, the millions of sperm that man had to get to the egg that
• 26:37
  will let you know what I mean. Like, literally one in a million
• 26:41
  or millions and then all of all the people that we could have
• 26:45
  this you know, connected with you know here here we are.
• 26:48
  So it's really when you were wrap your About when you wrap
• 26:52
  our minds around that and think about the cosmic order of things
• 26:57
  and just it's really not. Like I said before, it's not
• 27:00
  that we're just, you know, shot out of a cannon just flying
• 27:03
  around here all willy-nilly like there's there's purpose behind
• 27:07
  it and to put ourselves into that yet.
• 27:09
  Exactly to realize it to recognize it and to become part
• 27:12
  of it don't just be like, well, I guess whatever is it's just
• 27:14
  whatever, you know. Like man put yourself out there
• 27:17
  become part of things, embraced humanity, and See, what can
• 27:21
  happen you're doing stuff with inner demon media that, you
• 27:25
  know, if you want to talk a bit about it but it's, you know,
• 27:27
  you're getting eyes and ears on Talent across the world.
• 27:31
  You know, people that may not have heard of things, you know,
• 27:34
  you're shedding light on all of that and it was one of my main
• 27:38
  missions. I wanted to bring two worlds
• 27:41
  together when I create an inner demon media, it was me wanting
• 27:45
  to bring the pain community in with the mainstream Society
• 27:50
  sold. Easy way to say it, Pagan
• 27:52
  community and the mainstream Community.
• 27:55
  The people that don't follow that, don't follow a path or not
• 27:58
  into the spiritual Community. There's there's Everyday People
• 28:01
  bands, stuff like that and I, you know, I've been really
• 28:04
  blessed as far as that's concerned.
• 28:07
  I've met hundreds and hundreds of talented.
• 28:11
  Musicians, become friends, with some of the Josie Scott from the
• 28:16
  saliva. I became really good friends
• 28:17
  with him and we have, we've had we Of conversations, he makes
• 28:22
  videos for me, and come commercial ads for me, doesn't
• 28:25
  or even sang. My wife, happy birthday,
• 28:27
  instead, the video. Jimmy is a good guy, man.
• 28:30
  I worked with his sister at a prison 10 years ago.
• 28:33
  He's a good dude. He used to come to the prison to
• 28:36
  do like Mission work, you know, but this Faith, but he's a solid
• 28:42
  guy. He's a Christian, and we this is
• 28:45
  a thing for me. If you can, it's about showing
• 28:48
  people respect and Once again, I don't care what you are.
• 28:52
  I don't care if you're a Christian or your fucking
• 28:55
  Satanist, I don't care what you are.
• 28:56
  I want to see you. And that's I think that was the
• 29:00
  it was one of those type of things.
• 29:01
  We became friends. It was like a Divine timing
• 29:04
  because he had a son, his name was Cody, his son passed away
• 29:08
  around the same time. My son, Cody passed away and his
• 29:12
  son died of covid-19, I died of Overdose but as soon as we spoke
• 29:17
  about our sons, it was just an instant instant connection.
• 29:20
  And and we just, we had, we have to realize, we have a whole lot
• 29:23
  of stuff in common and we came friends, he's invited me over to
• 29:27
  his house. She's invited us over to his
• 29:29
  shows and we have never gone but I mean what the fuck what would
• 29:35
  you do? I mean that would be all these
• 29:37
  Starstruck the whole fucking time.
• 29:38
  I mean honestly yeah you talking about Josie Scotto swive at one
• 29:42
  of the my favorite bands in the early 20s twin 2000s.
• 29:47
  I mean click-click-boom your disease.
• 29:50
  I mean themselves. Favorite songs they were the
• 29:52
  anthem of the of the early 2000s, man.
• 29:54
  Like, they were right up there with some of the other, like,
• 29:56
  you know, dope and and Static X. I mean, like they were, you
• 30:02
  know, they were right there on that level.
• 30:03
  Here you are, it's our you're already a shocking.
• 30:05
  Also, having this guy that you kind of looked up to in
• 30:09
  music-wise you having a one-on-one conversation in
• 30:13
  Facebook messenger, and you just like you're in all struck.
• 30:16
  So I can just about imagine going to his house.
• 30:20
  I'm just like But you know what, man, that that's where, that's
• 30:23
  where the humanity of things come in, yeah.
• 30:25
  Right. You guys were late, you guys
• 30:27
  connected at a very visceral level, you know what I mean?
• 30:32
  Not many people in your life, maybe that could connect with
• 30:37
  you in that way, you know. And here this guy is one of the
• 30:40
  million shot. You know, who's talking about
• 30:42
  earlier. I mean, that's one of the
• 30:44
  million that, that scenario with our sons would have brought us
• 30:49
  together that was like Divine timing.
• 30:51
  And that But you have others been blessed.
• 30:53
  I really have. And I couldn't be more.
• 30:57
  I couldn't be more happier. I mean, to be honest, I mean, I,
• 31:00
  if I want to give when I first started doing it, I couldn't get
• 31:03
  one single guest to come onto the show.
• 31:05
  I was like, man, what am I? I was doing a different at the
• 31:09
  time I was doing a show called Heathen TV and I we had a had a
• 31:14
  cast of people that was working around me and they all created
• 31:17
  their own shows and then I would get the shows and I will do the
• 31:20
  editing and putting the show. Those together and then I'll do
• 31:22
  that. We did everything strictly
• 31:23
  through YouTube. Yeah.
• 31:25
  I had like seven shows. 11 new show a day and I would edit all
• 31:29
  seven of those shows from different people doing their own
• 31:31
  thing. And so I, I wasn't I wasn't, I
• 31:35
  wasn't feeling I may because I was just getting burnt out.
• 31:38
  And so I kind of ended the holies and TV thing, then I was
• 31:42
  like, I took about a six month break and I was like, all right,
• 31:45
  so I want to switch over from the which Pagan Community I want
• 31:50
  to, I want to come and go more. Mainstream and then I'm thinking
• 31:53
  of several, how am I going to go about doing this?
• 31:56
  And so I said, well what's my goal?
• 31:58
  How do I what do I want to present this as?
• 32:00
  And once? I figured that out, then I can
• 32:03
  start building around that and start, get start sending out a
• 32:06
  message, but it took me about three, four times, trying to get
• 32:11
  a band of come on, and I finally got one to come on.
• 32:13
  And once I did that, just kind of started taking off, I was, I
• 32:16
  was having bands on three or four times and not a week,
• 32:19
  sometimes I'm out. Just everybody wanted to be on.
• 32:24
  Well, I was kind of, I was it was it a conventional to show
• 32:26
  you? Get those music, Dana interviews
• 32:29
  and it's the same pointee questions.
• 32:32
  You know, how did you get the name wear it with me.
• 32:34
  Sheer inspiration, I've had I've had guess, pull their pants
• 32:39
  down, put their balls on a scale and weighed their balls on the
• 32:42
  scale I've had I've had music guests.
• 32:45
  Come on there and make out with teddy bears.
• 32:49
  I've had to get a music guests. Come on and Try to see how many
• 32:52
  eggs you can crack ovaries. His junk, how many was it one?
• 32:58
  And yet I'll get it, took him. I swear to you took him four
• 33:03
  times, he raised his arm down and came down as full as hard as
• 33:07
  he could on his phone. His crotch, they wasn't busting
• 33:10
  so he went to the kitchen. Okay.
• 33:12
  Thank was busting his Blessing, his own eggs.
• 33:14
  What the hell man? Did he freeze the eggs or
• 33:16
  something ahead of time? Like no, you wouldn't.
• 33:19
  It's I was shocked it and bust the first time today.
• 33:21
  Fair. Yeah, so he had to go in the
• 33:24
  kitchen and grab a lack of this little, small little strainer
• 33:26
  like a little egg strainer and put it into his pants and then
• 33:29
  that's how I cracked it. That's it.
• 33:31
  Do you remember who your first band was that you ever had on
• 33:34
  your show? These think here?
• 33:36
  Damn it. Cuz I got 275 interviews on
• 33:39
  YouTube of me, interviewing bands?
• 33:42
  Yeah, so I'm trying to think about the first one was I want
• 33:47
  to say King, do do. Okay, I asked to know, I asked
• 33:52
  to a DJ and well, what happened was a promotion company from UK,
• 33:59
  saw what me? And my co-host was doing at the
• 34:01
  time where the show is called talking to demons and he said,
• 34:04
  they'd seen how the artery our interviews was going and it was
• 34:09
  I mean these shows me like literally like anything goes
• 34:13
  like almost like a almost like a Howard Stern.
• 34:16
  Yes. Got that was my, that was my
• 34:18
  vision. I wanted to be like I wanted.
• 34:21
  I wanted to be. That's it.
• 34:23
  That's no shit. I wanted to be the Howard Stern
• 34:25
  of the Pagan Community. Wow, I had I had people had for
• 34:29
  a while. I had people doing hand puppets
• 34:31
  for me on the show and they'd be like little mascots that have
• 34:35
  come on the show and I'll have like a conversation real briefly
• 34:38
  with them. And but I was always trying to
• 34:40
  come up with you over the top ideas.
• 34:42
  I want, I wanted to be different than what everybody else was
• 34:45
  doing. You know, the typical 20 boring
• 34:47
  questions. I wanted to have fun and So we
• 34:50
  would, we made sure that people were laughing and enjoying
• 34:53
  themselves. And yeah, and I mean, literally
• 34:56
  that it's just took off and I was, I'm just so blessed to be
• 34:58
  able to have so many, so many people accepting my message and
• 35:02
  what I'm trying to do now people are seeing that I'm a Miami
• 35:05
  Pagan and there is a spiritual side to me.
• 35:08
  Some of these people that didn't realize it, or now realize it
• 35:11
  and then they're like holy shit. This is this this is what this
• 35:15
  guy who this guy is. Yeah, always don't judge a book
• 35:19
  by it's cover. Always open that book and read
• 35:22
  them because you never know what you're going to learn about that
• 35:24
  person and I guess it surprised a lot of people Yeah, that goes
• 35:29
  back to kind of like that thing you were talking earlier about,
• 35:32
  you know, Sharon our souls, you know, being vulnerable and
• 35:36
  putting ourselves out here in a way that may be uncomfortable at
• 35:40
  first. But look at the, you know, look
• 35:43
  at the look at the outcome from it, you know what I mean?
• 35:46
  Look at what you show have had a message.
• 35:49
  But for me, it was very important for me.
• 35:51
  The connect with an audience on a personal level, whether it's,
• 35:55
  they're feeling what I'm feeling or I'm making them laugh.
• 35:58
  You're touching a certain part of who they are, the human part
• 36:01
  of them and what you able to crack that egg open.
• 36:05
  That's when you're able to start putting those messages in of
• 36:08
  giving people hope or talking about you do, never given up
• 36:11
  whatever, they, whatever. I'm able to slide in always slit
• 36:15
  in some sort of message in every show.
• 36:18
  Because now, they're open to you, they feel like they know
• 36:20
  you in a sense after you, after you have a wild and crazy show
• 36:23
  and everybody's laughing and having a good time, they feel
• 36:25
  like they kind of know you. And you're able to yeah, more
• 36:28
  easily get into them and give them a message.
• 36:32
  Oh, yeah. It's because it's relatable, you
• 36:34
  know? And that's what I like about the
• 36:37
  the shows that you have with, you know, I mean, I watch all of
• 36:40
  them. But like, with pop Olufsen, the
• 36:42
  the talking with ease and show and what I've become to do, you
• 36:46
  know, Organic is very conversational and it's real
• 36:51
  people talking about real things and sure this is a this is a
• 36:55
  heathen podcast. And you know in many ways I look
• 36:57
  to the holy Heathen for him. It's him.
• 37:00
  It's Papa and yes that's the beauty of the show.
• 37:03
  We're talking with heathens. I mean we're all could be our,
• 37:05
  he then sets these, we honor all heathens no matter what path you
• 37:09
  fucking follow. We all have that he's inside.
• 37:12
  I mean, y'all degenerates. Yeah, that was the big thing
• 37:16
  with kids. Heathens, thank you.
• 37:19
  Thank you. Sometimes with Papa it was also
• 37:23
  very interesting way that all came about when I first met
• 37:27
  Papa, I had my interview with him and I had a couple other
• 37:30
  co-host. And I had this show with it
• 37:34
  wasn't a good, it wasn't a great show that my other co-host were
• 37:38
  kind of like talking over everybody, which it just wasn't
• 37:42
  a kind of like, your first show with me.
• 37:43
  I, we had another co-host with pop and I we had another co-host
• 37:47
  and it was kind of like, we always getting talked over, then
• 37:50
  we'll have to listen to someone else's experiences.
• 37:52
  When we're trying to learn about your experiences, that's why I
• 37:55
  was so eager to get you back on again, but when I met, Papa the
• 37:59
  show, wasn't that great. I'm not, I'm not afraid to say
• 38:02
  that. I have that.
• 38:03
  Those and that wasn't a great show.
• 38:04
  I've had a hand, quite a few beds shows, some of my man and
• 38:08
  that's just part of it. And I don't let it get to me.
• 38:10
  I had a bad shot. Alright, I'll make up for it,
• 38:13
  but it was a bad show. Then like the next day, I get a
• 38:15
  message from Papa nothing. Will this be an angle?
• 38:17
  Never talk to me again. I mean, this was just a shitty
• 38:21
  fucking, I mean, he was literally, he was literally sent
• 38:25
  back on his couch, with his hands on back out, back of his
• 38:28
  head, and just seal it up. Just chilling, and he didn't
• 38:31
  have, he didn't hardly that, it's talk.
• 38:33
  All the whole show but he misses me the next day and goes.
• 38:35
  Maryland, I went through your YouTube and I watched some of
• 38:38
  your shows and I'm a big fan of saliva and Josie Scott and
• 38:44
  there's something about you, dude.
• 38:45
  I just I really liked and he goes.
• 38:48
  Would you ever consider bringing me on to a show?
• 38:51
  Like be a co-host? It's like well I'm on Mike.
• 38:54
  Why have you not seen my shows Papa?
• 38:59
  I mean you want to be a part of this Trainwreck?
• 39:02
  No. With you know what?
• 39:03
  You tell me it was it was my shows at the time work spiritual
• 39:08
  shows, they were just music interviews and having fun and
• 39:13
  there wasn't nothing spiritual or anything like that at all.
• 39:17
  So I was kind of shocked, you know, him ask me hey would you
• 39:20
  just like well fuck man I don't ya bring you on will fucking do
• 39:23
  it and it took me about a desk time.
• 39:27
  I bought my when I first I just lost my son and I brought him in
• 39:33
  And I was, I was mourning really bad at the time.
• 39:35
  So I kind of withdrawal from everybody and kind of went kind
• 39:39
  of went into my own little cave and became a Hermit for a little
• 39:42
  while. So I felt like I was healed
• 39:43
  healing enough. I mean in one year that last
• 39:46
  year and that year I lost my dad in January and in turn around in
• 39:51
  June had to bury my son so I was hit double Wayne.
• 39:54
  I just got over my dad and then month or two after I felt like I
• 39:58
  was feeling better about that. I get hit that my son passed
• 40:01
  away so I was like How does the hot mess?
• 40:05
  So it took a few, a few shots of what was going to work for
• 40:09
  talking with you. And that wasn't a first idea.
• 40:11
  I think at first it was everyday magic and then we changed it to
• 40:15
  the witches. Our and then that like, I was
• 40:18
  like, all right, this this is not still not working, I'm not
• 40:21
  filling the title, I'm not feeling us that it needs to be
• 40:24
  something that that's that perks.
• 40:27
  My ears eyebrows. Like, what about another year,
• 40:30
  another version of talking with demons.
• 40:32
  Let's try talking with heathens. And then we just have a distant
• 40:36
  open conversations. And let this would be the show
• 40:38
  that we can kind of put a message out there or topic you
• 40:42
  out there people to connect to and it was It was kind of Rocky
• 40:46
  at first because we was trying to find Army has flow, but once
• 40:50
  we found our flow, it it's just been really, really just really
• 40:55
  turned out to be really great show.
• 40:57
  Yeah, I agree. I mean, I've enjoyed, you know,
• 41:01
  whenever you because you know you put them out on multiple
• 41:03
  platforms so they come across as live streams, you know.
• 41:06
  So you're engaging with your audience like in real time which
• 41:09
  is really cool. And again, having been on a, as
• 41:12
  a guest you know, a couple of times it's it is it's it's an
• 41:16
  enjoyable experience, not just to be a viewer subscriber his
• 41:22
  supporter but to be part you know, to participate in it and
• 41:25
  see the humanity of Buddy. Right.
• 41:27
  That's just out of the show is about as shown on The Human Side
• 41:31
  of who these people are there that are practicing like North
• 41:36
  Papa's animism and Norse Pagan. Everybody knows that's what he
• 41:40
  is. And I says past this show kind
• 41:43
  of pulls a couple of those layers back a little bit and you
• 41:46
  get to see a different side of Papa.
• 41:48
  You know, people seemed in his post like now he and it was it
• 41:52
  was a bit of a challenge for him to start doing these shows like
• 41:55
  this. He was wasn't, it wasn't People
• 41:57
  with doing them. He didn't know.
• 41:58
  He just was really quiet at first.
• 42:01
  And, yeah, break. I was telling those layers back
• 42:04
  on him and I got to start seeing this this different side of
• 42:08
  Papa. You know, we see what we see on
• 42:10
  Facebook, but it's started peeling, these layers back in
• 42:13
  after seeing another side of problem.
• 42:15
  And that's that's when we started to thrive on ourselves.
• 42:18
  When I actually got to see who he he is, who he really is.
• 42:23
  Yeah, I had him on my channel. years ago, and it was It was
• 42:31
  like an interview sort of thing, and it was I think actually he
• 42:36
  came to me and asked if he could interview me on my channel.
• 42:40
  So he's like, who would you mind if I like interviewed you and,
• 42:44
  you know, you publish it on your channel, I'm like sure, why not?
• 42:48
  Like cuz you know, I'm usually the one talking to people are
• 42:50
  interviewing them or asking them.
• 42:51
  So let's let's kind of flip the script here.
• 42:53
  Let's reverse the roles and I remember a few of those Early
• 42:57
  times of getting him on. Camera.
• 43:01
  You know, it's it was a totally different version of him then
• 43:04
  than what it is. Now he he's really found himself
• 43:07
  as a as an online personality in front of a camera, he still pop
• 43:12
  it like he still he still dat Appalachia you know Singsong
• 43:17
  voice kind of just chill dude. Like he's still that moments
• 43:20
  with him as women when I'm able to make you like literally bust
• 43:23
  out laughing then within my favorite times of the shows when
• 43:27
  I'm able to crack that nut. Yeah.
• 43:30
  Make him smile or laugh or talk about that because you don't you
• 43:33
  people don't get to see that side of him at last.
• 43:35
  Yeah. Many more than one in person or
• 43:37
  something like that. I'm sure people see that side
• 43:39
  but the public doesn't yeah so it's really it's really cool.
• 43:43
  People be able to see this side of who pop it is and I tell you
• 43:47
  I love the guy really did we I can't speak more highly of him
• 43:51
  really and he's come a really long long way doing this stuff
• 43:55
  and he's really really blossomed into something.
• 43:58
  He's really blossom into something special Yeah, and
• 44:01
  having gone and seen him, you know, having met him in person,
• 44:04
  visit visited him and his family several times and will continue
• 44:09
  to do. So, it's only it only gets
• 44:13
  better when you're with them in person.
• 44:14
  You know, seeing the stuff that he shares on his socials and
• 44:18
  then seeing him in front of the camera.
• 44:19
  Like, yeah, those are the layers that get peeled back and you see
• 44:22
  that. But I'm telling you, man, you
• 44:24
  sit and have a meal with the man or just smoked a pipe or not
• 44:28
  even do anything, just talk in person.
• 44:30
  And go on Hikes, just whatever it's enriching and it's it does
• 44:36
  something for for me at least like it does something for for
• 44:39
  my human self. Like it's a who it is, it's
• 44:43
  enriching, it's enriching, you know what I mean?
• 44:45
  Like, you could be in a bad mood and I can't tell you how many
• 44:49
  times I've, you know, gone to him and confidence about certain
• 44:54
  things because I can trust him with that and I know that he's
• 44:58
  he's guilty trustworthy, right? Right.
• 45:00
  Exactly. And you feel so much better
• 45:04
  afterwards like you could feel like an absolute pile of dog
• 45:06
  shit talking to him you you walk away or you leave the
• 45:09
  conversation and you feel calm and I yeah, you're not angry, no
• 45:13
  more, you're not getting any more, he really does its.
• 45:16
  He's a good person to talk to. You really is, if you get to
• 45:19
  know him at that level we were able, you know, you can confide
• 45:22
  in him, he could confide in you I mean if you come out of the
• 45:26
  talking with him and I've had some bad, I've had some rough
• 45:28
  days. Yeah.
• 45:30
  And I'll go say, man, what you up to?
• 45:32
  You feel like talking four minutes like me, I got time for
• 45:34
  you anytime? Yep.
• 45:37
  And that's, that's, that's how he is.
• 45:39
  And that's what I'd love to see. You know, when folks, like
• 45:43
  yourself and others who have come connected with through,
• 45:46
  either this podcast or just other ways, you know, over
• 45:51
  social media and establishing meaningful relationships with
• 45:55
  people and seeing people for who they are and embracing all
• 45:58
  aspects, because let's face it, you know, The humanity, you
• 46:03
  know, oh the humanity, but the humanity and and knowing that a
• 46:10
  friend, you know, somebody that you connect with, you're going
• 46:13
  to have to deal with them. And they're going to have to
• 46:15
  deal with you. When it's not all sunshine and
• 46:17
  rainbows. You know?
• 46:18
  You're going to have to deal with someone when they're being
• 46:20
  a total ass and then vice versa you know they're going to have
• 46:24
  to put up with you. And that's that's that's like
• 46:28
  the hard part. That's the hard part of humanity
• 46:30
  that I think people because you know look I'm About positivity
• 46:34
  and encouraging people and giving people reasons or feeling
• 46:40
  of keep going, don't give up. Like, I'm all about that, and I
• 46:44
  know you are too, and then there's also parts of me that
• 46:48
  are like, sometimes you just want to get on here and shake a
• 46:53
  mother, you know what I mean? Just like, do that to beat
• 46:55
  somebody virtually over the head and be like, you need to nut up
• 46:59
  or shut up because you're being ridiculous or whatever I can,
• 47:02
  Get visceral with them. And that's, that's part of
• 47:04
  humanity to because it's again, it's the spectrum of human
• 47:07
  emotions is the spectrum of The Human Experience.
• 47:09
  Is those those inner demons, right?
• 47:12
  Those things that are less than Savory, those things that you
• 47:15
  would rather suppress or hide or keep concealed, you know,
• 47:20
  because I don't want to look bad or, you know, I don't like that
• 47:22
  and facing it and using that as the worried about their image,
• 47:27
  as a going to harm them. And right, I'll just have it.
• 47:30
  I don't, I don't give a fuck. I don't Right?
• 47:34
  I don't care what you think about me.
• 47:35
  It's I'm not on this Earth to care what you do.
• 47:39
  You think about I'm I'm doing I enjoying there would be times
• 47:41
  where I'll I'll get on the damn show and then watch at one time
• 47:46
  here with Papa, once I kind of went off on somebody, do this
• 47:49
  show, it was in comments. While I was like, you know what?
• 47:52
  Fuck this. I'm going to say something.
• 47:54
  I remember that show I wasn't on that show, but I remember
• 47:57
  watching. I was like, you know, that that
• 47:59
  mean, you know? Like here I am like grabbing the
• 48:01
  popcorn. Getting ready to go.
• 48:03
  Here we go. You know, it takes me, it takes
• 48:06
  a bit to get me to that point but when you have enough you
• 48:09
  have enough and I had enough that show and I was like, you
• 48:12
  know what, I'm going to come on. You know, this person was
• 48:16
  partaking in what I was doing. She was part of some things that
• 48:20
  I was doing through inner demon media and it just ended and that
• 48:25
  person couldn't let it go. And she's it kept going and
• 48:27
  going and going and going. And I was like, you know what,
• 48:30
  I've had enough of this and And and I seen that person's face
• 48:34
  and I guess I'm acceptable getting triggered to folks I got
• 48:39
  trigger when I seen that name and I went off.
• 48:42
  Yeah. What do you think about?
• 48:44
  I mean, if you want to talk about it we're talking about
• 48:46
  things of, you know what it means to have humanity and
• 48:48
  empathy being a brilliant big, really big component to to
• 48:52
  having humanity and displaying Humanity.
• 48:55
  You know, what do you what do you find helpful with What you
• 49:02
  know dealing with people when they're triggered, you know,
• 49:05
  maybe it's something you did that triggered them and now
• 49:08
  you're having to deal with the Fallout of the PTSD.
• 49:14
  That's that sets in from the trauma, you know, being
• 49:17
  triggered 411, you got to have a little, you have to have a
• 49:20
  little bit of humility and accept that if you was wrong he
• 49:24
  was wrong. And never be afraid to
• 49:26
  apologize. If you offend someone or make
• 49:28
  someone mad also though, O2's, you have really important key
• 49:33
  because I do with a lot of people, I got a chat room with a
• 49:36
  bunch of people in it, so I'm constantly dealing with
• 49:38
  personalities. And so, really key for me is
• 49:42
  understanding, once you start understanding the person, the
• 49:45
  way they function, you try to navigate through that and
• 49:49
  there'll be times where you want to trigger that person and I'll
• 49:52
  be guilty of it because I deal with so many people and they
• 49:57
  come, Sometimes they come at me or the same problems, it's the
• 50:00
  same thing. Over and over to the Vicious
• 50:02
  Cycle that they're not trying to break, I'll be that guy to say,
• 50:06
  hey, look, you know, you need to stop doing this and sometimes
• 50:11
  they take it. Well, sometimes they don't, but
• 50:13
  it's really important to have a little bit of understanding and
• 50:17
  be honest with people. It may it may hurt.
• 50:21
  It may upset them or they might take it and the eyes may be
• 50:26
  opened by it but it's really it's you have to be honest and
• 50:30
  if you're not honest with people you're working around and
• 50:32
  working with. It's never going to work out.
• 50:35
  I agree with that. But I also see where You have to
• 50:43
  be tactical about it, right? I mean, or do you because how
• 50:47
  many, how often have you experienced a situation where
• 50:50
  you were brutally honest with someone and the next thing you
• 50:52
  know your gas lighting or you're a narcissist now and it's like,
• 50:56
  hold on. Wait a minute, I'm not I'm just
• 50:58
  being honest and you can't handle it.
• 50:59
  Like will have you have you ever had to be honest if we accused
• 51:04
  of that, we Pi are doing that really well, we'll think about
• 51:08
  it. We are doing that just that we
• 51:14
  see something that's fault with them.
• 51:17
  And for me, and I know it sounds bad and I'll probably a, you
• 51:20
  know, I'll be first admit that I do guess, like, I guess, certain
• 51:23
  people, within my inner circle, like, if you're doing something
• 51:27
  wrong, I'm going to call you out on it.
• 51:29
  So I said, that could be gaslighting.
• 51:31
  I could, you're trying to bring them out and be more open and
• 51:34
  honest about what's going on. So, you kind of have to Gaslight
• 51:38
  I'm a bit but I'm not a big guy, but Gasps letting anybody were
• 51:42
  gatekeeping anything. Uh, like my people like people
• 51:45
  that DJ for my radio station, one of the first questions is
• 51:48
  there, what's what can I play? What can I play?
• 51:51
  How my show? What what can I present my show
• 51:55
  as and I'm like, I don't care what you present your show at
• 51:58
  it's your show your show. Do what you want.
• 52:00
  You want to cuss a thousand times test two thousand times.
• 52:04
  I really don't care. I'm not here to tell you how to
• 52:06
  do your show. All I asked you to let me know
• 52:08
  if your can't make it to the show, let me know.
• 52:11
  So that way, I don't promote it. Otherwise just in have fun.
• 52:15
  Enjoy yourself. You don't need somebody standing
• 52:17
  over you telling you what to do? It's your fucking show.
• 52:20
  And we get a lot of that in the, in the, in the Pagan Community a
• 52:24
  lot. That's why I don't, I'm not part
• 52:25
  of a lot of groups because I can't stand the gas light and I
• 52:29
  can't stand the gatekeeping. Who the fuck are you to tell me
• 52:31
  what's right or wrong? Right.
• 52:35
  Yeah, I just look at it as a way of of In a tough It's like a
• 52:41
  tough love sort of thing. That's the way I've always seen
• 52:44
  it because if you know I remember hearing about gas
• 52:47
  lighting and I tried to, you know, do some research because
• 52:49
  I'm like what does this even mean?
• 52:51
  You know like I know what the two words together me but what
• 52:53
  are you even trying to imply when you Gaslight someone?
• 52:56
  And I've ended up finding out that the the term came into in
• 53:01
  to use from an old it was, it was a play and it was a play.
• 53:07
  That was the storyline I guess was Well, something like it was
• 53:11
  a husband and wife, and the husband would tell the wife
• 53:19
  every time. Like, she's like, you know,
• 53:20
  you're drinking too much or whatever like she would point
• 53:23
  something out. Lets, you know, what I would
• 53:25
  just use it as an example. If you're drinking too much or
• 53:26
  you're not cleaning the house or whatever.
• 53:28
  And, you know, his responses was, that's ridiculous.
• 53:31
  Look at what I do. He was in validating everything
• 53:34
  that she was saying. And also to the point of making
• 53:36
  her believe that what she was seeing and what she was
• 53:38
  identifying as an issue. Really He wasn't there like he
• 53:41
  was contorting and twisting the perception of things to where
• 53:45
  she got to a point where she believe I will, I guess I am
• 53:47
  wrong. You know, and I get it.
• 53:50
  Some people really do that. Some people are so absorbed with
• 53:53
  themselves that when their faults are brought to light,
• 53:59
  they'll try to make themselves look good and deflect and tell
• 54:04
  the other person, why? It's not that way or justify it.
• 54:07
  I've been guilty of that, you know.
• 54:09
  And I mean and All business, but how much of how much of you
• 54:14
  know, showing someone where they're wrong, and why they're
• 54:17
  wrong and trying to be rational and logical about?
• 54:19
  It is really just what that person needs.
• 54:21
  A tough love but they're just not ready for it or they're
• 54:25
  they're unwilling to face those your face that music.
• 54:30
  My that was one of my issues with I had an issue, kind of
• 54:33
  similar that were, it was a couple bed shows.
• 54:38
  So I had a talk with the person. Person about it.
• 54:41
  Like hey, do you mind not doing this anymore on the show?
• 54:44
  Because, you know, it's kind of embarrassing for not only for
• 54:49
  what we're doing, but for yourself, as well.
• 54:53
  And they just didn't take a good at all and I'm, you know, it's
• 54:55
  not that I was being mean about it.
• 54:57
  I was being very gentle as I popped because I consider the
• 55:00
  person a friend. So I don't want to come off
• 55:02
  harsh. I mean, I'm this person has been
• 55:05
  to my house. I've broke bread with this
• 55:08
  person, so I wasn't being mean or rude about it?
• 55:12
  Just like a day. I don't care if you do this.
• 55:15
  Well, let's just try not to do it.
• 55:17
  Only on, let's not try to get inebriated during the show.
• 55:21
  Oh yeah. We can drink, sure we can
• 55:24
  moderate moderately drink couple and for me I've had a few shows
• 55:27
  where I had a few drinks while as I was having a show.
• 55:30
  But I didn't come out to the show inebriated and I didn't
• 55:34
  make myself like an ass. Well, maybe I did, but not in
• 55:39
  that kind of way, right? And yeah, you sometimes were not
• 55:43
  ready for that. They don't want to hear that
• 55:45
  their own their own, their own paths, and the hear something.
• 55:48
  That's the some people just don't like hearing that.
• 55:51
  They there's a fault. Out there.
• 55:53
  And they don't think any of these action is to deny it until
• 55:58
  they comes back to him as like. All right.
• 56:00
  I'm not part of this no more. Why am I not part of this
• 56:04
  anymore? And then you realize, okay,
• 56:06
  maybe maybe that person's right what they was saying.
• 56:08
  I just didn't want to hear it at the time.
• 56:10
  Now, that I've had time away from all, I'm hearing it.
• 56:14
  Thanks so much next to makes them want to come back to the
• 56:16
  nest. What they had and now they don't
• 56:17
  have it. Yeah.
• 56:19
  And maybe maybe there's there's really good intentions behind
• 56:22
  it, you know. I I've talked on my podcast
• 56:25
  about Shane culture and the difference between shaming and
• 56:30
  and guilt-tripping someone and from like a heathen perspective,
• 56:34
  you know everything of course being relevant, you know, you
• 56:39
  look at ancient societies, shame culture was a vital Part of
• 56:44
  keeping order and keeping things that, you know, keeping order in
• 56:48
  the commuter keeping order in the society.
• 56:50
  Because look, if Jim Bob over here was was, was doing
• 56:54
  something that was detrimental to the overall Community, than
• 56:57
  one of the ways of putting him in check was to shame him about
• 57:02
  it into in to bring shame upon him or it'd.
• 57:04
  Make him feel shame about it. It was corrective action.
• 57:06
  It was tough. Love.
• 57:07
  It was the thing that worked for the society at the time, maybe
• 57:12
  it's just because we're in the sea.
• 57:13
  You know, era of our human existence.
• 57:17
  That yes, the very sensitive. And so when I said earlier,
• 57:21
  like, being tactical about it, like the intention behind what
• 57:24
  we're trying to do, like, we're trying to smack some sense into
• 57:28
  people preferably or literally smack some sense into people.
• 57:31
  That doesn't really work so well for the majority of people.
• 57:33
  You gotta, you gotta, You know, be a bit more delicate nowadays
• 57:39
  and you can still achieve. Yeah, yeah exactly.
• 57:42
  Have that understanding have that empathy you can achieve you
• 57:45
  can probably achieve the same result without coming across.
• 57:48
  So so callous about it and that's one big thing about
• 57:51
  myself that I've had to evaluate at my this point in my life is
• 57:56
  you know I can be a real jerk sometimes and it's with the
• 57:59
  intention of like look quit, quit pussyfooting around the
• 58:02
  subject like dammit face face the music and even if you don't
• 58:05
  like it face it, I do, right? Toughen up man, you know shit or
• 58:09
  get off the pot like all of these things that were Echoes of
• 58:13
  the way I was brought up and raised and you know, projecting
• 58:17
  that to other people that doesn't work for them or you
• 58:22
  know. Like for me personally, I don't
• 58:24
  I don't respond well to when people come at me and tell me
• 58:27
  you should do this, you have to do that, don't do this.
• 58:29
  I'm like, excuse me, you're not my parents.
• 58:31
  You can't tell me what to do. I'm a grown-ass man, right?
• 58:33
  All these types of things. But if you approach me, In a
• 58:37
  different way and say, hey, this is what I'm noticing.
• 58:40
  This is what I'm seeing. Have you considered?
• 58:42
  Like a different approach about it?
• 58:43
  You can still achieve the same thing.
• 58:45
  He's probably going to treat a little bit differently.
• 58:47
  Yeah. I don't come off like when we
• 58:49
  talk like yes I don't try to come off like a jerk.
• 58:54
  It's just those moments where you have people that you've
• 58:57
  worked with for a year or so. And so, you know, you can pour
• 59:04
  personal you become more friends and you're able to navigate, you
• 59:07
  know, situations like that little bit better.
• 59:10
  Yeah. Complete stranger you, please
• 59:12
  stranger hitting up in a box asking for help or needing
• 59:16
  something like that. Yeah, you really have to show a
• 59:19
  human side to that. Those situations, you have to be
• 59:22
  a little more sensitive because you don't know what you would
• 59:25
  say. That would trigger them and
• 59:27
  doing something bad if they're in a bad spot in your life.
• 59:29
  You saying you could say the wrong thing.
• 59:32
  And I I'm really big about. I'll talk to you but if it
• 59:37
  becomes too deep, I move them to a somebody that's that's able to
• 59:43
  deal with these situations better.
• 59:45
  Yeah. Under election all drug
• 59:47
  addiction. I pushed him in a professional
• 59:49
  help because I'm not, I'm not professional and I'm only
• 59:54
  talking about my life experiences and do you relate to
• 59:56
  that's great. But it goes really deep and,
• 1:00:00
  like, you know, they're suicidal or depressed.
• 1:00:03
  No, I'm Of course I'm going to talk them down but I'm also
• 1:00:05
  going to said, you know hey Coll coll profession.
• 1:00:09
  Try to get some help. It's alright you it's not
• 1:00:11
  embarrassing to do that. We all at some point in our
• 1:00:14
  lives need help. Don't be embarrassed about it.
• 1:00:18
  I mean, don't you know, being an addict, I didn't go to like
• 1:00:23
  rehab or those 12 steps that type of thing on it.
• 1:00:26
  I didn't do all that. I just quit and didn't apply the
• 1:00:30
  hard way, because I didn't have no likes.
• 1:00:32
  But my wife at the time we got together.
• 1:00:36
  I was trying to wake myself off, so it was a lot having her
• 1:00:40
  around encouraging me and helping me get through.
• 1:00:43
  It was a lifesaver for me, But yeah, it's case we require
• 1:00:48
  something a little bit different.
• 1:00:48
  I told you, I totally agree yet to be tactical with it, of
• 1:00:51
  course. Yeah.
• 1:00:55
  And, you know, we experience and we encounter so many different
• 1:00:59
  personalities, especially doing the types of things that, you
• 1:01:02
  know, we do meaning, you know, you have a show that you host
• 1:01:05
  and I have a podcast and, you know, we have people who we
• 1:01:08
  maybe have only talked with a few times wanting to express and
• 1:01:13
  talk about their things that they want to talk about on these
• 1:01:15
  platforms. You know.
• 1:01:16
  You bring guests on, I bring guests on and we're We're
• 1:01:21
  showing The Human Side to the world and it's like a.
• 1:01:26
  I don't know, man. It's pretty wild to think about
• 1:01:28
  what what, what things like this can accomplish what things like
• 1:01:31
  this can do. They were probably going to do
• 1:01:35
  is getting those DM's. Yeah, let's say you probably get
• 1:01:38
  messages all the time, getting those DM's after a show and then
• 1:01:43
  they're just like spilling their life to use a minute.
• 1:01:46
  I know I know exactly how you feel.
• 1:01:48
  I lost my son and I've often due to drug, I mean, I get when I
• 1:01:53
  get those good shows where that's really kind of giving a
• 1:01:56
  positive message out there. But greatest joy, I can get us
• 1:02:00
  getting those confirmation messages from people.
• 1:02:03
  You know, this show touched me. This show made me feel this way.
• 1:02:06
  Thank you for bringing this kind of stuff up cause we don't do it
• 1:02:09
  enough and that discreet brings me.
• 1:02:11
  Great, joy that's worth every fucking penny that I spend out
• 1:02:14
  doing what I do. Yeah, the make the Live rewards.
• 1:02:19
  It ain't the shares. I think the views.
• 1:02:21
  I don't care how many people watch my show, what matters to
• 1:02:25
  me. The most is that I'm touching
• 1:02:26
  somebody and some shape or form. I'm, I'm touching them in a
• 1:02:30
  human level where they're able to feel like once again, like
• 1:02:34
  they're not alone and they situations that there's somebody
• 1:02:36
  else out there that goes through it and listening to their
• 1:02:40
  stories and listen. There must have any, your
• 1:02:42
  stories. There were connecting to that.
• 1:02:44
  That deep human love. Ville.
• 1:02:46
  And that's that's the magic of it all.
• 1:02:49
  Is that core your heart? If you could touch that, there's
• 1:02:54
  nothing that you can't touch and that's some powerful powerful
• 1:02:58
  shit. Yeah.
• 1:03:00
  You know. And on top of that, you know
• 1:03:01
  your you have the magic of music.
• 1:03:05
  Incorporated into your stuff you know and we all know you've
• 1:03:09
  talked about it on your show before I even think I've been a
• 1:03:12
  part of it whether watching or I was on a guest you know like the
• 1:03:15
  power that music possess is to communicate and speak with
• 1:03:19
  people in ways that words cannot that's it.
• 1:03:24
  Music is like for me is like one of the most powerful tools and
• 1:03:28
  Magic you don't have to be a pagan, you don't have to be a
• 1:03:32
  Christian. Music will Connect with you and
• 1:03:37
  so many different more levels than the than the spiritualism
• 1:03:42
  or the paganism. It's deeper than that you're
• 1:03:45
  you're touching that that heart that core of that human and
• 1:03:50
  they're listening to a song and it reminds them of their
• 1:03:52
  childhood that's magic. If they're listening to a song
• 1:03:57
  and it starts a new memory that's fucking magic and that's
• 1:04:02
  that's where I try to make the connection with With magic
• 1:04:05
  paganism and Witchcraft. That magical aspect was, people
• 1:04:09
  get caught up in the books. People get caught up in, which
• 1:04:12
  is, especially sometimes get caught up and having all the
• 1:04:15
  right magical ingredients. Or that's not unless it's not
• 1:04:19
  none of that. Fuck.
• 1:04:20
  All you needs a finger in your mouth and you can get how much
• 1:04:22
  all you want to believe in yourself.
• 1:04:25
  And that's a big thing. If you can believe in yourself,
• 1:04:29
  that you can achieve anything that you want, that's half the
• 1:04:33
  fucking battle. Yeah.
• 1:04:36
  Do you do you have to believe it and you have to experience that,
• 1:04:41
  you know, there definitely is the experience that I think
• 1:04:46
  allows that magic to come to life, it's its inherent in all
• 1:04:51
  of us. It's it exists at a very Primal
• 1:04:53
  layer or a primal level and a lot of people haven't dug deep
• 1:04:58
  enough or a lot of people haven't, you know, you drove
• 1:05:02
  deep for oil or you drilled deep to to tap a well, you know a lot
• 1:05:06
  of people haven't drilled that deep yet.
• 1:05:07
  Black people haven't gotten there yet.
• 1:05:09
  Well, I mean everything's about manifesting and I'll start from
• 1:05:12
  within starts from your brain. And if your brain out your mouth
• 1:05:16
  or on paper and you're presenting into reality,
• 1:05:19
  everything starts and ends with you the human being and then if
• 1:05:24
  you if you can tap into your your human self and moment you
• 1:05:29
  able to tap into yourself, no matter what you take on in life,
• 1:05:33
  it's going to amplify. It's so much more because you're
• 1:05:37
  in touch with yourself, you accepted every aspect of who you
• 1:05:41
  are. Your you've technically freed
• 1:05:43
  yourself and from when he will, talk about a way to woken are
• 1:05:47
  being awake. I don't Define like normal
• 1:05:49
  society calls away. It's the moment that you wrote
• 1:05:53
  that, you realize that you've accepted every part of yourself
• 1:05:56
  and you're comfortable with it. You've kind of waking this other
• 1:06:01
  person inside of you that you didn't know was there and then
• 1:06:04
  go. I'll send you start believing in
• 1:06:05
  yourself and then you all of a sudden you start taking on new
• 1:06:07
  adventures and you realize that this is what's happened in my
• 1:06:11
  life doesn't really Define who I am now and what I'm going to be
• 1:06:16
  later and it's very eye-opening for me.
• 1:06:20
  It was I open that's to get to where I'm at to that.
• 1:06:23
  I had to do a lot of Dirty Work in my life.
• 1:06:25
  A lot of Shadow work, a lot of looking at my past and trying to
• 1:06:29
  find my flaws. Or why, why are these why is
• 1:06:32
  this happening to me? Why am I getting so upset?
• 1:06:34
  Set about stuff. So I had really dig and really
• 1:06:37
  understand who I was and then I realized.
• 1:06:39
  Okay, my problem is, I'm not accepting everything about
• 1:06:43
  myself. Yes, I've been a Joe lots of
• 1:06:45
  times. Yes, I was an addict things that
• 1:06:48
  normal people would hide from. I, I couldn't hide from what I
• 1:06:52
  had, I had to expose it for what it was and accept it and learn
• 1:06:56
  how to move on. Yeah, unlocking your potential
• 1:07:01
  unlocking, your true potential. You know I've I've said this
• 1:07:05
  throughout my life and I believe it to be true, our minds, we
• 1:07:11
  ourselves, I mean, and I say our minds because so much of what We
• 1:07:16
  are driven by is, is what goes through up in this at sitting up
• 1:07:20
  in here. It's such a powerful thing
• 1:07:22
  because if you think about it the negative things that happen
• 1:07:27
  you were talking earlier about if you if you if you're honest
• 1:07:31
  and you and you take the everything into perspective and
• 1:07:33
  you realize the the percentage of the amount of negative things
• 1:07:35
  that happen vastly you know is it's outweighed or its
• 1:07:40
  outnumbered by the positive things that happen in life.
• 1:07:42
  You know. But we focus on the negative
• 1:07:44
  things and I've said for a long time that when it comes to
• 1:07:48
  mental struggles and I'm not trying to dismiss, or lump
• 1:07:52
  everybody into one category, but if if we allow the negativity to
• 1:08:00
  Take over our mind. That's all we're going to be.
• 1:08:04
  That's all we're going to be able to think about the, our
• 1:08:07
  mind, is powerful enough to switch that off.
• 1:08:10
  We can, we can focus on the positive things, we can focus on
• 1:08:14
  the things that are constructed. We can focus on the things that
• 1:08:16
  are good and overwrite that negativity.
• 1:08:19
  It doesn't erase it, it doesn't make it go away.
• 1:08:21
  But the power of the mind is so much so that if you can allow
• 1:08:26
  those self-deprecating thoughts or those depressive thoughts,
• 1:08:29
  thoughts to ruin your life. And by God, you can also turn on
• 1:08:32
  that part of yourself to make yourself better and focus on the
• 1:08:36
  things that are going to improve your overall quality of life.
• 1:08:40
  It's there you have that ability.
• 1:08:42
  It's literally there you're just not seeking your true potential
• 1:08:46
  yet you have exhausted. Your not accepting it and you're
• 1:08:49
  not you're not coming to terms with it and it will eventually
• 1:08:53
  catch up with you and till into and it'll make you deal with it
• 1:08:56
  at some point of time. It never.
• 1:08:59
  Hell's that mean all those little bad for you.
• 1:09:01
  All those little broken things. I was little broken parts in our
• 1:09:04
  lives. All the things that we've done
• 1:09:06
  wrong and we mistakes that we made or bad choices that we've
• 1:09:10
  made those little broken pieces, creates a great big, beautiful,
• 1:09:15
  Masterpiece of a life, and a person that you are.
• 1:09:18
  If you learned, if you can learn to accept all aspects of your
• 1:09:23
  life, you are creating this masterpiece this Mona Lisa so to
• 1:09:27
  speak of Of Art and there's no greater feeling being learning
• 1:09:35
  how to be, okay, with the things that you've done wrong in your
• 1:09:39
  life. Are you, are you proud of?
• 1:09:40
  No, I'm not saying I'm proud of them, right?
• 1:09:42
  I'm saying, as I accepted them, I yes.
• 1:09:48
  A lot of times when we do bad things, especially in our
• 1:09:50
  twenties, I don't know about you, but for me my twenties,
• 1:09:53
  everything I did bad. I blamed it on somebody else
• 1:09:55
  with my mom and dad wasn't around or this person put me The
• 1:09:59
  position where I had to do it. No, nobody put you, nobody did
• 1:10:02
  anything. It's you try to push problems,
• 1:10:05
  onto somebody else. Some of what you're able to
• 1:10:08
  accept responsibility and show accountability the moment you're
• 1:10:11
  able to say, all right. Yes, I did this.
• 1:10:15
  Can I change it? No, that will.
• 1:10:17
  I do it again. No.
• 1:10:19
  Learn how to learn lessons from your mistakes and what you're
• 1:10:21
  able to do that. You're creating this beautiful
• 1:10:23
  piece of artwork that is going to spiral out of people.
• 1:10:27
  It's like this thing I'm going to it's I'm pointing here
• 1:10:29
  because it's going to appear in as as like a an in screen image
• 1:10:33
  but I shared this earlier today and it was like the timing of it
• 1:10:38
  just it's as real growth is when you start checking and
• 1:10:41
  correcting yourself instead of blaming others, you take power.
• 1:10:44
  Our you take your power back by being responsible for your life.
• 1:10:48
  That's why I said this right here and give you that finger
• 1:10:50
  point. That I was like I saw.
• 1:10:51
  Yeah. You saw it and I'm like it, it
• 1:10:53
  it the timing of it, you know. And again it's very beautiful
• 1:10:56
  disasters. Let's let's let's be real,
• 1:10:58
  right? Let's embrace the whole aspect
• 1:10:59
  there are things about us that are disastrous and chaotic and
• 1:11:04
  in that imperfection we are gorgeous.
• 1:11:08
  So we are, we are phenomenal. Existent, you know, we are
• 1:11:13
  phenomenal beings of nature. There's nothing like us out here
• 1:11:18
  that in terms of in this in this area of the, you know, universe.
• 1:11:22
  So I know we're trying to be right embrace the imperfections
• 1:11:26
  Embrace everything. Every real growth comes in,
• 1:11:29
  that's when you really start your path, really starts to take
• 1:11:32
  off as with you completely, just give in to it.
• 1:11:35
  Also, they are, you know, yeah, I've made some mistakes and I've
• 1:11:38
  heard a lot of people and I've done bad things, but that Define
• 1:11:42
  who I am? It's okay.
• 1:11:42
  I made any mistakes and really focus on trying to do better,
• 1:11:46
  right? Knowing that there are
• 1:11:48
  opportunities for us to improve and don't use.
• 1:11:52
  Don't use the negative things to be an excuse as to why you're a
• 1:11:55
  jerk or why you're this or that like, oh well I guess I'm just a
• 1:11:58
  piece of trash and that's all I'm ever going to be.
• 1:12:00
  Like I'm not saying just accept the fact that you're You know,
• 1:12:04
  but recognize those things and use those things to realize,
• 1:12:08
  okay, you know what I saw this thing to about an in this kind
• 1:12:12
  of has some relevance to, to the whole thing about how trees
• 1:12:14
  grow, right? And you watch a tree and how it
• 1:12:19
  grows, and you put your hands all over the trees are going to
• 1:12:21
  find bumps, and you're going to find knots.
• 1:12:24
  Those. Those knots that are on trees,
• 1:12:27
  are the result of branches that at one time, were there that
• 1:12:30
  ended up getting broken off. And so it's kind of like a scar
• 1:12:34
  On that tree. It's a memory of a point of that
• 1:12:37
  trees life that something was there.
• 1:12:39
  And now is no longer, it's still a part of that tree.
• 1:12:43
  It's still a part of that body. We've got knots all over us,
• 1:12:46
  man. We've got scars.
• 1:12:47
  We've got things that have happened to all of us in our
• 1:12:50
  lives that make up this tree that make up this, you know,
• 1:12:56
  sentient being this. This, this this person, this
• 1:12:58
  thing, And it's nothing to be ashamed of it.
• 1:13:01
  We're all unique in that way. You know.
• 1:13:03
  Not there's not one single tree. That looks exactly like the
• 1:13:05
  other is not one single human. That looks exactly like the
• 1:13:08
  other. We're all unique.
• 1:13:09
  We all have our. We all have our, our knots.
• 1:13:13
  Yeah. You're not gonna like it.
• 1:13:14
  You're not you don't have to like like what you've done
• 1:13:17
  wrong, you don't have to like it.
• 1:13:19
  You matter fact I want you to hate it.
• 1:13:22
  The more you hate it, the more likely that you won't do it
• 1:13:26
  again. Do it again.
• 1:13:26
  Yeah. Yeah yeah.
• 1:13:28
  What we're not we're not saying Saying that you know you should
• 1:13:30
  embrace your flaws and not try to repeat them like definitely
• 1:13:35
  realize like hey do don't want to do that again you know those
• 1:13:39
  memories are there for a reason to take 20,000 times to figure
• 1:13:42
  it out me too, but you know, that's not advised.
• 1:13:45
  Yeah, do not recommend. It's like a goody 0 0 out of 10
• 1:13:50
  would not recommend, you know, Well, what what you really want
• 1:13:54
  to do is accept? Don't have to hide from them.
• 1:13:58
  It's all part of all. Those things that happen in your
• 1:14:01
  life is all a part of who you are.
• 1:14:03
  What the DNA of the person that you are today?
• 1:14:06
  No, you don't have to like the shit you can we want you to hate
• 1:14:09
  it because you hopefully you're growing from it.
• 1:14:11
  You won't do it again and you'll be because start becoming more
• 1:14:14
  of a better person and sometimes that takes more than one time to
• 1:14:17
  do. Yeah.
• 1:14:19
  Human human things, human factor of it all.
• 1:14:22
  Yep. Yeah we're not the best, a lot
• 1:14:25
  of us at learning from our mistakes.
• 1:14:27
  The first time we have to test it, we have to test, you have to
• 1:14:30
  go back into the kids, you know? All right.
• 1:15:15
  And that's the point of today. You know, let's talk about what
• 1:15:18
  it means to have Humanity Michaels, comment, you know, I
• 1:15:21
  think that's where it what it means to have humanity is
• 1:15:24
  recognize and embrace everything.
• 1:15:28
  About the human existence, the good, the bad, the ugly learn
• 1:15:33
  from the bad, don't be ashamed of the ugly with the celebrate.
• 1:15:38
  The good, you know, do do it all and and and work with your
• 1:15:42
  fellow humans work with the people.
• 1:15:45
  That you kind of aligned with to build each other up, right?
• 1:15:49
  Because that's how we advance, that's how we grow.
• 1:15:54
  That's how we become better recognize to makes them feel
• 1:15:57
  good people. You know, I'm sure acknowledging
• 1:16:00
  than what they're doing and I encourage everybody if you see
• 1:16:03
  something good out there and it warms your heart, or fills, your
• 1:16:07
  heart up, let them know. It's important that they're the
• 1:16:12
  people out here doing things or try to motivate inspire people.
• 1:16:15
  And they would love to hear positive.
• 1:16:17
  I know, I do. I love hearing the positive.
• 1:16:19
  I love hearing the negative 2 to be fair.
• 1:16:22
  Yeah. Yeah, you got it again.
• 1:16:24
  It ain't all sunshine and rainbows, you know, so if we're
• 1:16:26
  over here, you know, goofing off and doing things that are
• 1:16:30
  probably not the greatest. Then I sure would hope that
• 1:16:33
  somebody cares enough to call me out on it, you know.
• 1:16:38
  You know I need a quick that stop it, stop it.
• 1:16:44
  You ever watch your watch. It was either Mad TV or the or
• 1:16:49
  they might have been Saturday Night Live.
• 1:16:51
  It was with Stuart. Yeah.
• 1:16:54
  That but the stop I can do that was Mad TV but it was a, it was
• 1:17:00
  a Saturday Night Live skit with God bless her.
• 1:17:04
  Supposes name is it? Bob hot?
• 1:17:06
  No. Not Bob Hoskins Bernard And what
• 1:17:13
  was his name. He was like a therapist and this
• 1:17:15
  lady would show up at his office and he would sit there.
• 1:17:19
  He was the voice of, damn it. Why am I from blanking on his
• 1:17:22
  name? Yeah, like me Rescuers Down
• 1:17:26
  Under he was the chubby little mouse.
• 1:17:27
  He was the voice of that, chubby little Mouse and The Rescuers
• 1:17:30
  that Disney, you know, Remember The Rescuers is Bernard and
• 1:17:32
  Bianca Bernard was the fat, chubby mouse, was it bought?
• 1:17:36
  It was at Bob, Bob Hope. Bob Bob Newhart Bob Newhart.
• 1:17:42
  There it is. Thank you.
• 1:17:44
  I remember it now. Just now.
• 1:17:45
  Hit me. Yeah.
• 1:17:46
  Bob Newhart. So he had there was a skit where
• 1:17:49
  he was like a therapist and he and this lady comes in to his
• 1:17:52
  office and she's a remember that one who is like the solution was
• 1:17:56
  I'm going to give you three words and well it'll work for
• 1:18:00
  pretty much everything and she was going down through this list
• 1:18:03
  of everything that she was afraid of.
• 1:18:04
  I'm deathly afraid of being alone or being in a box and so
• 1:18:10
  his Solution was a just stop it. She goes a little what?
• 1:18:14
  What he has Just stop it. You don't want to be in a box.
• 1:18:19
  Why would you, why would you be afraid of being in a box?
• 1:18:20
  And he was like, it was crass and it was like, nowadays,
• 1:18:23
  people who it's so insensitive, but that's literally was the
• 1:18:26
  solution for all of her problems was just stop it.
• 1:18:30
  You know, until they do that. Pretty Sound Advice, really?
• 1:18:37
  I mean, look, Is it can it really be that simple?
• 1:18:40
  Are we are we over complicating things?
• 1:18:44
  Are we thinking that? Well, because of this, that
• 1:18:46
  thing in the other that happened in my life, I mean, capable of
• 1:18:48
  stopping to feeling this way. Are you really are you
• 1:18:51
  legitimately incapable of, of correcting yourself?
• 1:18:54
  I say not. I think that your mind and
• 1:18:56
  everything about you is so powerful that you can You can
• 1:19:00
  shift Lanes, man, you can, you can get off this exit.
• 1:19:02
  You can ditch the car entirely like that bitch on fire and get
• 1:19:05
  a new one. You can, you know what I mean?
• 1:19:07
  Like, I'm using metaphors here but in euphemisms, but it's it's
• 1:19:11
  just that it, like, if you don't like, the way certain things are
• 1:19:15
  and again, this isn't to try to dismiss, you know, real and and
• 1:19:21
  you know real life illness and whatnot.
• 1:19:24
  I'm not trying to downplay or dismiss any of that.
• 1:19:28
  But what I'm saying is that a lot of people Like, just just
• 1:19:30
  really need to stop it. They have to, that's its I know,
• 1:19:36
  it sounds kind of funny. We're talking about a Saturday
• 1:19:38
  night skip, but it's really true though.
• 1:19:40
  I mean, if something in your life is going a certain way, you
• 1:19:43
  don't like the direction that your wife is in, just stop it.
• 1:19:46
  Stop going that way. Have the power.
• 1:19:48
  You have the control to change your your environment, the
• 1:19:53
  things are going your life. You have complete control of it.
• 1:19:56
  If you just allow yourself to say it's okay, If this marriage
• 1:20:01
  is hypothetically, let's say this, the married couples been
• 1:20:04
  miserable for 20 years and they they're ready to move on but are
• 1:20:09
  afraid to. Well, you know what, Stu it, if
• 1:20:13
  you gotta follow you to make yourself happy because if you're
• 1:20:15
  not happy, nobody around. You is going to be happy and it
• 1:20:20
  will make everybody around. You measured why I can't I got
• 1:20:23
  divorced out of a 21-year marriage.
• 1:20:26
  Wow, I was married for 21 years. And it just I've always wanted
• 1:20:32
  to leave her, but I was too afraid.
• 1:20:34
  I mean, I got when I was 18 and left my was 41, I didn't I
• 1:20:38
  didn't know anything outside of life, right?
• 1:20:41
  But bucks this. And so I'll just let my words
• 1:20:45
  were my I still use them today. My two favorite word's is fuck
• 1:20:48
  it. I'm going to I'm going to do it
• 1:20:50
  or fuck it. I'm not going to do it or
• 1:20:53
  something. I like I let's say aye.
• 1:20:57
  Accidentally dented my car and all that grocery cart at the
• 1:20:59
  store and I'm fuck it. What points are going to make?
• 1:21:03
  I put poison, what point is it so fucking fit?
• 1:21:06
  You know what, fuck it or you want to try something new in
• 1:21:09
  life? Like for me, was when I start a
• 1:21:12
  podcast I just said, you know what?
• 1:21:14
  Fuck it. When you got to lose, I'm gonna
• 1:21:17
  try Somethin bad's in your life. Something something happened.
• 1:21:20
  Bad. You can either dwell on it or
• 1:21:22
  say, fuck it. You want.
• 1:21:24
  All right. That's it was bad.
• 1:21:25
  Fuck it. I'm gonna move on.
• 1:21:27
  I think there's a good healthy balance with that too, though.
• 1:21:30
  You know, because drinks some of what I see is is, especially
• 1:21:33
  with like, younger Generations. They, they, they really don't
• 1:21:37
  care these days and, and they'll, they'll take those
• 1:21:40
  risks and they'll do things without really considering Don't
• 1:21:48
  be afraid to take that leap. Don't be afraid to change those.
• 1:21:51
  Those course Corrections need to happen, even when you're sailing
• 1:21:55
  in an open sea, you know, you're going to have things at that,
• 1:21:58
  blow you off course, you got to make those course, Corrections,
• 1:22:00
  you got to get back on track and sometimes, you know, well I want
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  to go to that set of islands or I want to go off of this road,
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  you know I want to try it over here and see what that's like.
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  It's okay. Not saying, you know, with
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  Reckless, abandon just be all firing and you know fire On all
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  cylinders at every single point in time.
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  Like there's theirs Moderation, you know what I mean?
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  But to that, yes, to that to that extent, you know for sure.
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  Don't don't. Don't let your fear of the
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  unknown stop. You from taking that step into
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  something that could potentially change your life for the good.
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  My fuck. It's just like, you know, my or
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  less and like Taking Chances not being afraid to explore
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  different things and try different things out.
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  You know, you fuck it, give it a try.
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  If it doesn't work. Well, there's, it doesn't try
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  something different. Don't be afraid to explore new
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  things and new opportunities in your life.
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  Now sometimes that fuck it may like, you know, you've got a job
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  and another job offer, hypothetically, that requires
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  you to leave your old job. Just go start something new.
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  Now you think you can say, fuck it, you know, I'm going to try
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  something new. Yeah, or that's so much of what
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  are our ancestors? Did, you know what I mean?
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  Taking it back to like a heathen view on things.
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  You know, we hold such in higher regard, the plight of our
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  ancestors and the things that they did that brought us to
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  where we are now. Like we are the result of their
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  actions. They took the risks, they got on
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  the boats, they ventured off into new and Uncharted areas to
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  be here everything for it. Side if it wasn't for a bunch of
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  fuck. It's yeah I mean can argue that
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  I mean I mean like if they're trying to discover the wheel and
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  they don't get it the first time at Square then they try again.
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  It turns out I had to kind of go oh wait a minute maybe we try
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  being completely Circle. There was a lot of sockets in
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  that process to get to the will fucking this one's stupid.
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  Let's try. Fuck this doesn't work.
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  Yeah. I bet there's tons of fuck it's
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  during during, all right, Mankind, we will have his
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  inventions that we have now you know, there was a you know, head
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  that that's literally how we got here was was from people.
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  Do you know, literally fucking it?
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  Yeah. It's let slip get, get down to
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  the nitty-gritty, boys and girls mom and dad you know like fuck
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  it flashback Those those nights when I was a kid being woken up
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  by noises that I would rather choose to forget.
• 1:24:45
  Yeah, fuck it. You know, I mean, oh man, we've
• 1:24:50
  all been there. I think we've all had those
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  horror stories of, you know, hearing that mac and cheese
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  being made in the Next Room or something.
• 1:24:57
  You know what I'm saying? Manatee, we saw the humanity.
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  We went to the conceiving part of humanity.
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  Look, if you guys wanted to show about your Nanny when you guys
• 1:25:18
  are definitely getting it tonight and we showed up, didn't
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  ya, here's expose all all Humanity, all aspects, Good, the
• 1:25:26
  Bad, the Ugly, the smelly, you know, the sweaty.
• 1:25:30
  Well, this is really been a great show because it's we are
• 1:25:35
  current session hasn't been around a certain path or belief.
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  Leif. We're exposing Us in the sense
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  of this in this conversation that we expose some of our
• 1:25:45
  thoughts. Our processes were showing our
• 1:25:49
  human side of what of who we are.
• 1:25:52
  This understand a bit about what we do there is there's we come
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  from all come from a different cut of cloth.
• 1:25:59
  We've all had different experiences and we're exposing
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  that today and it's conversation giving everybody an idea of who
• 1:26:06
  we are as people with the reason why we do the things that we do.
• 1:26:10
  Absolutely absolutely and I think with you no consideration
• 1:26:16
  of your time and everyone else is time, I feel like that's a
• 1:26:18
  great point to venture off into our outro with.
• 1:26:22
  And before I do I do want to just say real quick, so thank
• 1:26:26
  you, Michael for the comment and and raising this as a topic.
• 1:26:30
  You know, this is a lot of fun. And for you said I'd like to say
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