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The Favorites - NFL Betting Recap Week 13 · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites of the Podcast presented by BET
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Speaker 1: week fourteen. I'm joined as always by my co host,
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Speaker 1: Dude? Chaos, pure chaos for you and me. In the
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Speaker 1: Iowa terms. Conditioned restrictions apply all right, So the games
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Speaker 1: that we switched out. We had the Colts minus two
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Speaker 1: and a half the very last second, Simon like, I'm
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Speaker 1: putting the picks in the app, and you text me
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Speaker 1: because we hadn't talked about.
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Speaker 2: The Jags somehow, Yeah, which I feel like.
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Speaker 1: We both liked. So we put the Jags in at
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Speaker 1: three and a half. We switched out the Jets for
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Speaker 1: the Panthers, so we had the Jets plus two and
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Speaker 1: a half. We put in the Panthers at plus six
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Speaker 1: and a half. We're still waiting for the final gun
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Speaker 1: on that one. And we switched out the Eagles a
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Speaker 1: plus three and a half for the Bengals at minus
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Speaker 1: three and a half. So that one's painful. And I
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Speaker 1: feel like we nailed our handicap on the Eagles the
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Speaker 1: other day. And I don't know why we waffled on this.
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Speaker 1: I think we got overwhelmed by Lamar and sort of
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Speaker 1: the stats, and but I'm in love with his Eagles defense.
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Speaker 1: They've been playing better and better. I think you, Mighty,
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Speaker 1: I don't think you liked them as much as I did.
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Speaker 1: And there was great fear of Lamar. But let's start
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Speaker 1: with Pittsburgh at Cincinnati. I get I guess like we
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Speaker 1: feel like we've been catching a falling knife all season
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Speaker 1: with the Steelers. Is that how you felt betting them
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Speaker 1: as dogs, fading them as favorites. We discussed it on
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Speaker 1: the show earlier this week. We just felt like we
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Speaker 1: were pressing our luck.
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Speaker 2: I think a little bit, but I'll eat it it
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Speaker 2: just I disrespected Russell Wilson too much. I really did
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Speaker 2: not think he had this game minimum. Honestly, I really
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Speaker 2: did think that this would big type of game where
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Speaker 2: the Bengals would put up thirty and they would just
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Speaker 2: roll offensively. And yeah, the Russell Wilson think, I just
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Speaker 2: I did not. I'll be the first time I did
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Speaker 2: not see coming. Man. I think the key threw four
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Speaker 2: four hundred yards. I mean he started the game with
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Speaker 2: the pick six and didn't even matter, Like that's a
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Speaker 2: legit VET seen it all, been there, done it, don't care.
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Speaker 2: Just a great game. Like it sucks to where we
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Speaker 2: were on them. I go to Thanksgiving. I still like
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Speaker 2: them at Thanksgiving, and then you know, I get together
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Speaker 2: with the guys Friday. So I'm in the house with
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Speaker 2: a bunch of the runners and a lot of the
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Speaker 2: guys talking are like, yeah, I like Cincy, and then
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Speaker 2: I see Doctor Nick's luck rankings. I'm like, oh shit,
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Speaker 2: so that's another spot to take Cincy. And then I
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Speaker 2: read Evans trend article and he had an amazing trend
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Speaker 2: about dogs in this exact spot for his favorites, in
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Speaker 2: the spot where it's like historically great to take them,
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Speaker 2: and it's like, okay, this just lines up persons spot.
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Speaker 2: Like I said, the Pittsburgh is due to lose some
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Speaker 2: game as a dog. I mean now they're five and
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Speaker 2: oh this season it's incredible. I mean they're they're just
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Speaker 2: so tough to get a read on, and you know,
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Speaker 2: they were what the most heavily bet public dog this
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Speaker 2: week didn't matter. I mean they cash. Everyone had them
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Speaker 2: on the money line, just like the Eagles and came through.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, bad miss by me. Bad reading. It's like
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Speaker 2: brutal where it's like I gained my forced in. But
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Speaker 2: obviously seeing what happened with Atlanta the Colts, I felt
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Speaker 2: okay because it was like, those are the two you
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Speaker 2: were trying to get and I was just like, fuck, dude,
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Speaker 2: please don't make me put those two in.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess the only thing that sucked, but yeah,
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Speaker 1: I would have liked. I would have liked if we
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Speaker 1: had considered the Steelers at three and a half, right
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Speaker 1: like we did, right, right, right.
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Speaker 2: But I never would have put them in at three
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Speaker 2: and a half.
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Speaker 1: Honestly, we were so locked in. And by the way,
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Speaker 1: the Bucks just missed the field goal. So now the
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Speaker 1: Panthers are getting the ball at the forty yard line,
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Speaker 1: forty something yard line as we continue to wait out
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Speaker 1: the end of this game.
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Speaker 2: But don't jenks it, don't mention until the game's done.
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Speaker 2: Now for him not saying anything, I know, just almost
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Speaker 2: anything from now on until the game's over, nothing's being said,
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Speaker 2: I need this win by Carolina.
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Speaker 1: So we didn't even consider it. Russell Wilson had two
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty seven yards in the first half. I
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Speaker 1: think we failed to consider just truly how bad this
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Speaker 1: Bucks defense, this Bengals defense is, and he had four
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Speaker 1: hundred and fourteen for the game.
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Speaker 2: There was Is that a franchise record?
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Speaker 1: It's the most he's ever thrown for.
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Speaker 2: I believe it.
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Speaker 1: That's incredible to me. There was one sequence that towards
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Speaker 1: the end of the first half that nails why we
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Speaker 1: bet the Steelers, why we don't bet the Bengals, and
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Speaker 1: we lost our way. We should have been smarter. We
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Speaker 1: learned our lesson TJ. What the Bengals are driving. They're
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Speaker 1: trading touchdowns back and forth, back and forth, back and forth,
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Speaker 1: and it really feels like the Bengals can kind of
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Speaker 1: do whatever they want. Joe Burrow is just dining. TJ.
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Speaker 1: Watt forces a Joe Burrow fumble. Burrow is stepping up
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Speaker 1: in the pocket, scrambling to the edge. Burrow chases him
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Speaker 1: down from behind, knocks the ball loose, and the next
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Speaker 1: series this the and then later in the later in
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Speaker 1: so that ends the drive. Right before the two minute warning,
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Speaker 1: it's fourth and one for Cincinnati about midfield. They're going
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Speaker 1: forward and fourth down, and they actually draw the Steelers
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Speaker 1: off sides, but the refs because the Bengals offensive line reacts,
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Speaker 1: they actually call the false start in the Bengals and
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Speaker 1: you can clearly see the replay that it was the
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Speaker 1: Steelers who went off side and they were reacting. So
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Speaker 1: now it's fourth and sixth. They punt the Steelers because
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Speaker 1: they're veterans and they're good at this, and they take
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Speaker 1: advantage of mistakes and good calls. This is where the
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Speaker 1: luck comes into play with a veteran team. All of
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Speaker 1: a sudden, they're down twenty they're up twenty four to
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Speaker 1: twenty one, and then they they take the ball in
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Speaker 1: the start the second half, they're up twenty seven to
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Speaker 1: twenty one. The Bengals never get closer than three of
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Speaker 1: the rest of the game. Like good team versus bad teams,
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Speaker 1: that's the bottom line. And we were enamored with Joe Burrow.
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Speaker 1: I think we were. I think at the end of it,
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Speaker 1: it was the Joe Burrow stats more than anything.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm shocking to mention this though. To me, the
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Speaker 2: game flipped on this really simple possession in the first quarter.
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Speaker 2: It was fourteen to seven Bengals. They get a stop
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Speaker 2: and it's fourth and three on Pittsburgh's own thirty eight,
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Speaker 2: and fucking Tomlin went for it. I was like, holy shit,
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Speaker 2: did he really just do that? He knew that it
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Speaker 2: was going to be a gunfight, he really did. I mean,
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Speaker 2: we talk how lucky he is, how great of a
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Speaker 2: coach is, Like those are the type of moments where
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Speaker 2: he has so much equity. Who else can pull that
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Speaker 2: off in that exact moment. It was crazy how ballsy
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Speaker 2: it was, and it shook that since the defense because
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Speaker 2: they realize, oh, you got to stop us in all
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Speaker 2: four downs. This ain't going to be a three down
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Speaker 2: type of day. So that to me kind of flipped
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Speaker 2: the game because it was fourteen seven since he was
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Speaker 2: about to get the ball back, and yeah, that was
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Speaker 2: just an incredible move by Tomlin. Yeah, this Pittsburgh team,
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Speaker 2: they're special. I really can't wait for them in the playoffs.
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Speaker 2: Like they're this type of team that like we're gonna
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Speaker 2: get a good number on them when they're playing whoever
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Speaker 2: it is the Ravens or the Bills or Since or
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Speaker 2: the Chiefs. It's like they're just this really really fun
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Speaker 2: team right now where you just nailed it. It's like
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Speaker 2: their offense showed up, but when they're need their defense
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Speaker 2: need to make big plays, they made them like that
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Speaker 2: played by JJ Watt. You know, even the second half,
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Speaker 2: they just they adjusted really well. Where the Bengals, like
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Speaker 2: you said, they're a bad team, their defense had no
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Speaker 2: adjustments to make. They just they have no pieces on
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Speaker 2: that team.
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Speaker 1: By the way, the Pittsburgh Steelers have now one nine games,
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Speaker 1: so again Mike Tomlin has gone over his win total
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Speaker 1: and they will finish the season over five hundred, which
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Speaker 1: means he has never finished below five hundred in his career.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the guy is a freak and he is
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Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame coach. He just there is all
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Speaker 1: the accolades, all the credit. I cannot wait to talk
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Speaker 1: about fading him next week as a big, big home favorite.
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Speaker 1: all right, the next game. I wish we hadn't we'd
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Speaker 1: considered this game, but we loved this game. Thought we
10:55
Speaker 1: were so smart. Even Raybaund loved this game too. We
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Speaker 1: talked about it and unconvinced me and convinced me to
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Speaker 1: take it on the show Tennessee. We added at plus
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Speaker 1: five and a half at Washington, so the game started
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Speaker 1: at one PM. I don't know if the Titans actually
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Speaker 1: knew that, because they didn't show up until two thirty,
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Speaker 1: and from two thirty to the end of the game.
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Speaker 1: In the Chad Millman incredibly optimistic rose colored glasses view
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Speaker 1: of the world, they totally won and our handicap was
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Speaker 1: spot on because they beat the Commanders from two thirty
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Speaker 1: until the end of the game nineteen to fourteen. The
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Speaker 1: bad news is the Commander showed up at one o'clock
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Speaker 1: and scored four touchdowns on their four four drives. I
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Speaker 1: mean that was apocalyptically bad for the Titans. They were dreadful.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again we'll get to the next game. We
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Speaker 2: were staying at the time. I went through in the
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Speaker 2: face and all three bets were looking like awful, awful bets,
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Speaker 2: like everything like that.
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Speaker 1: By double digits, they were dead freaking down.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was just sitting there just like holy shit.
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Speaker 2: Even though we dodge all those other bullets. We are
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Speaker 2: still just slipping into this mud right now. Like I
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Speaker 2: was literally sitting there just like, man, I'm struggling this
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Speaker 2: year obviously, but I was like, I am totally out
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Speaker 2: of my depth right now, Like I am totally misreading
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Speaker 2: the board. How could I misread this one so wrong?
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Speaker 2: And yeah, it was just bad luck. Like now that
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Speaker 2: we're like going back talk about the Tennessee game. I mean,
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Speaker 2: how many stupid fumbles happened in that game? Like, dude,
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you exactly how Pollard's first fumble of the season.
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Speaker 2: It was just like, Okay, this is that game where
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Speaker 2: everything's going to go wrong in the flip side, Washington
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Speaker 2: like a damn breaking you gave them a little bit
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Speaker 2: of a groove like that running game Robinson, like we
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Speaker 2: talked about that sets up that whole offense when Robinson
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Speaker 2: gets going.
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Speaker 1: Dude, let me answer your question, all right, are you ready?
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Speaker 1: The first Washington drive three plays, forty yard touchdown run.
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Speaker 1: The second drive in the first quarter eleven plays, touchdown.
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Speaker 1: Third drive in the first quarter, after recovering a Titans fumble,
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Speaker 1: that Tony Pollard fumble, they threw to a wide open
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Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin. Of all the people that you're gonna cover
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Speaker 1: for the Commanders, you gotta cover Terry McLaurin. It's honest
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Speaker 1: to God when I say the Titans didn't know the
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Speaker 1: game started at one o'clock, I don't even think they
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Speaker 1: were on the field when he scored the touchdown. If
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Speaker 1: you're gonna go back and watch the all twenty two,
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Speaker 1: when you're gonna see everybody who is supposed to be
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Speaker 1: covering Terry McLaurin is on the other half of the field,
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Speaker 1: he is so wide open.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's only when those players they're doing a zone
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Speaker 2: and they got points to him when he's running by them. Nobody, nobody, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: where you pointing to? There's no one there. So yeah,
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Speaker 2: that was that was awful.
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Speaker 1: If you look at the play by play, it's crazy
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Speaker 1: because if you look at the play by play, normally
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Speaker 1: it's like Commanders Titans, Commanders Titans or whoever, it's like Eagles, Ravens,
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Speaker 1: Eagles Ravens. Right this there was no Titans section. It
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Speaker 1: just went Commanders and then Commanders because the Titans fumbled
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Speaker 1: the kickoff and the Commanders score a touchdown. After that touchdown,
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Speaker 1: Simon Washington had more plays twenty five than the Titans
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Speaker 1: had yards. That's how bad it was. And it wasn't
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Speaker 1: even here's the thing, it wasn't even Will Levis's fault
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Speaker 1: at that point.
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Speaker 2: No, Like we just said, though, it was just a
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Speaker 2: co It's just a ton of bad luck for a
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Speaker 2: team that is bad. So yeah, just again, I'm just
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Speaker 2: sitting there in my gosh, I'm just like questioning my
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Speaker 2: whole life decision.
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Speaker 1: Wheun.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, this week is going to be a total wash.
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Speaker 2: But can we get to the glimmer of hope.
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Speaker 1: We'll get to the glimmer of hope because at this point, Simon,
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Speaker 1: the Jets who we had taken out were actually kind
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Speaker 1: of dominating.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was another one. You were just like, oh
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Speaker 2: my god, did we mess up?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because we had the Jets at plus two and
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Speaker 1: a half and they were taking a what twenty one
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Speaker 1: to seven lead, and we're just cruising and so I'm like,
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Speaker 1: are you and the Colts actually at one point it
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Speaker 1: looked like not only were we owing three to start
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Speaker 1: the day, but the games we liked and taken out
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Speaker 1: and it taken out were actually going to cover easily.
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Speaker 1: We took out the Colts. We put in the Jacksonville
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Speaker 1: Jaguars and tell me true. At plus three and a half,
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence was knocked out. Did you just stop paying
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Speaker 1: attention to the game at this point?
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Speaker 2: I mean I raged for a good minute like a
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Speaker 2: ten year old, where I was just like, like, if
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Speaker 2: that was Jalen Hurts. I'm sure Matt Mitchell feels the
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Speaker 2: same way if it was Josh Allen. A cheap shot
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Speaker 2: like that on your star quarterback, it's like the closest
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Speaker 2: thing to bringing me to tears as a grown man.
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Speaker 2: Like that and the military commercials of the guys coming
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Speaker 2: home and surprising their kids, those are the two things.
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Speaker 1: Like those things get me every time.
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Speaker 2: Every time. But that cheap shot. It's a reason we
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Speaker 2: protect these quarterback because it's just like, I can't stand it, right,
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Speaker 2: even if he slid a little late, he was going
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Speaker 2: down that guy through forums at his head, ye like
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Speaker 2: he took a shot to take him out. It was
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Speaker 2: just so dirty And the stupidest play in the NFL
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Speaker 2: happens where the team retaliates and they throw an offsetting penalty,
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Speaker 2: so you don't even get rewarded for your QB just
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Speaker 2: getting decapitated. It's just I hate it. I hate it
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Speaker 2: so much. So yeah, no, in that exact moment, my
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Speaker 2: first law was, well, if they drive and get a
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Speaker 2: touchdown here, maybe our BET's not totally dead. Instead, it
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Speaker 2: went onto a run of a field goal, a missed
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Speaker 2: field goal, and at one point they're down whatever. It
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Speaker 2: was twenty three to six, and it's just not just.
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Speaker 1: That, not just a field goal and a missed field goal.
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Speaker 1: Mac Jones missed two wide open, wide open, wide open touchdowns.
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Speaker 1: I was like, what is going on today?
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Speaker 2: He's horrible.
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Speaker 1: At one point, you know, I I bet with all
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Speaker 1: my buddies and they'll send me their money and I'll
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Speaker 1: bet for them for the season. And this has not
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Speaker 1: been a great year for us. And so at one
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Speaker 1: point a buddy texted me just said he just said man,
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Speaker 1: because he follows in the app he goes man rough day,
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Speaker 1: but I still love you, and I just texted back,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, we're not done yet, and a big exclamation
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Speaker 1: point and the Jags if this is the movie, this
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Speaker 1: is when like we start our comeback because Mac Jones,
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Speaker 1: this is not what we expected. But it's why you
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Speaker 1: play the number and why we decided to put this
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Speaker 1: game in. Are you ready? In the final two drives
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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, we were down twenty three to six.
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Speaker 1: The only way we cover is two touchdowns and at
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Speaker 1: least one two point conversion in these final two drives.
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Speaker 1: Mac Jones. I counted this. I went into the play
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Speaker 1: by play and counted this. Thirteen of seventeen for one
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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty nine yards, two touchdown passes, and on
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Speaker 1: the second touchdown drive, a two point conversion. Yeah, but
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Speaker 1: the game he was only twenty to thirty two for
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Speaker 1: two thirty five, So basically thirteen of his twenty completions
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Speaker 1: happened in that run of two drives. Not what we expected,
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Speaker 1: but we'll take it.
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Speaker 2: No, it's just again we always talk about you need
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Speaker 2: a little bit of luck for what we do here,
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Speaker 2: and we've just been really unlucky this season, just mainly
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Speaker 2: about the kickers, Like that kicker missing that field goal.
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Speaker 2: In these type of games, when you have the backup
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Speaker 2: coming in, you're usually not going to cover. It's just
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Speaker 2: like you can't not have those points, right, and just
18:46
Speaker 2: that that's a formula for you to lose those type
18:48
Speaker 2: of games. I mean, that's what just happened to the Panthers, right,
18:50
Speaker 2: Panthers probably should have won that game if they had
18:53
Speaker 2: a kicker, And the same kind of thing goes here
18:54
Speaker 2: with the Jacks team, where if they had a kicker
18:56
Speaker 2: and Taylor Lawrence played a full game, they probably still
18:59
Speaker 2: win that game. Their defense played really well.
19:01
Speaker 1: They were playing they were playing really well. Their defense
19:03
Speaker 1: was playing great, and even though they were losing early
19:07
Speaker 1: with Trevor, I felt like we're in this, like we
19:10
Speaker 1: got it. We got a pretty good shot here.
19:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like they kept stopping the red zone again.
19:14
Speaker 2: It was six nothing when he went out and his
19:15
Speaker 2: team was driving. But like you said, that's just we
19:19
Speaker 2: played the number. And thank god you checked your phone
19:22
Speaker 2: because we literally got the call. Just like you know,
19:24
Speaker 2: I'm heading out to the book to go make some
19:26
Speaker 2: bets and get ready for the games, and I'm like,
19:28
Speaker 2: oh my god, how did we not even talk about
19:30
Speaker 2: this team where it was like literally my second biggest
19:32
Speaker 2: brother day with the Jaguars. But we always talk about
19:36
Speaker 2: the numbers, the key and if it was three or
19:38
Speaker 2: two and a half, we don't play it because we
19:40
Speaker 2: still have the hook and the contest. It's like we
19:42
Speaker 2: got to get the three and a half in there,
19:44
Speaker 2: and yeah, I don't know who you texted, was Matt
19:46
Speaker 2: Mitch whoever it was. They they changed the Colts out
19:49
Speaker 2: put in the Jaguars, and that flips us from being
19:53
Speaker 2: one and three right now to two and two.
19:54
Speaker 1: Brother, Yeah, too bad. We didn't keep that theory with
20:00
Speaker 1: the Steelers and the Philadelphia Eagles. Otherwise we'd be having
20:04
Speaker 1: an entirely different conversation. But it all evens out like
20:10
Speaker 1: in the end, we wouldn't have had the Jags and
20:12
Speaker 1: we wouldn't have had Carolina. We would have been with
20:15
Speaker 1: you know, the Steelers and the Eagles and the Jets
20:19
Speaker 1: and the Colts, and we'd be two and two and
20:21
Speaker 1: sitting on the Broncos on Monday night, you know what
20:24
Speaker 1: I mean.
20:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can't be fate. We were stuck to and
20:27
Speaker 2: two no matter what we did.
20:28
Speaker 1: We were going to be two and two, no matter what.
20:30
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
20:31
Speaker 1: There's no sliding doors here. We're just two and two.
20:35
Speaker 1: You miss. You mentioned the missing Kickers, the kickers, missing
20:39
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ Eddie Pinero. We had Carolina plus six and
20:43
Speaker 1: a half and they dominated the first half like Baker
20:46
Speaker 1: was seven sixteen seven and sixteen with a late first
20:50
Speaker 1: half pick that led to a field goal for the Panthers.
20:55
Speaker 1: But Eddie Pinero, he missed from thirty eight, he missed
20:59
Speaker 1: from forty five, squeaked one in barely from twenty seven
21:04
Speaker 1: to and a half. And this was after we kind
21:06
Speaker 1: of got robbed by the refs on a touchdown who
21:09
Speaker 1: said Adam Thielen did not catch a ball that looked
21:13
Speaker 1: very caught in the first half or a touchdown Like
21:19
Speaker 1: Bryce is getting better every week and he's elevating his
21:21
Speaker 1: game from like manager to straight baller. He is facing
21:25
Speaker 1: down blitzes, He's thrown dimes while on the run, like
21:29
Speaker 1: he had nearly two hundred yards passing in the first half.
21:32
Speaker 1: They lost that game. They didn't lose it because of Bryce.
21:35
Speaker 1: They lost it because their defense couldn't stop Bucky Irving
21:39
Speaker 1: in the second half, who finished the day with nearly
21:40
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty years rushing, and they fumbled in
21:44
Speaker 1: overtime while they were driving for the game winning field goal.
21:47
Speaker 1: So I feel like this Panthers team is finally the
21:51
Speaker 1: team that we thought they would be early in the year.
21:55
Speaker 2: Definitely inn't even a defense. I mean, they played really well,
21:58
Speaker 2: like you said they had the turnovers, they had sacks,
22:00
Speaker 2: ton of pressure on Baker, but the kicker just he
22:05
Speaker 2: ruined the whole game because they should have been up
22:06
Speaker 2: a nine and a half and you don't. We're not
22:08
Speaker 2: here talking about bucket, Irvon. They could. When you're only
22:10
Speaker 2: down by three, you don't have to change anything you're
22:12
Speaker 2: doing offensive. You can lean on the run. If you're
22:15
Speaker 2: down nine, it's gonna put more into Baker, which we
22:17
Speaker 2: won it. Honestly, this is a this is a really
22:19
Speaker 2: bad Baker game. Like when Baker's off, he is really off.
22:22
Speaker 2: He could not find like his picks were terrible. The
22:25
Speaker 2: one he threw incredibly late the end of that first half,
22:28
Speaker 2: like you're talking about the one the second half, I
22:30
Speaker 2: mean he put it right into a guy's chest after
22:31
Speaker 2: he pretty much had gotten injured to play before. So
22:35
Speaker 2: bad Baker game. Tampa found a way to win, right
22:38
Speaker 2: like you just said, the little things went their way
22:41
Speaker 2: where they had the missfield goals on the Carolina side,
22:44
Speaker 2: then the fumbleing overtime after they had missed the field goal,
22:46
Speaker 2: and yeah, it's a huge game for them. Now. I
22:49
Speaker 2: mean we talked about they dropped those games to Atlanta,
22:52
Speaker 2: but there's still an outside chance that can see this
22:55
Speaker 2: division and anyone like me that's a SIKO that really
22:57
Speaker 2: wanted Carolina win this game. They were like forty to
23:00
Speaker 2: one to win this division before this game. If they
23:02
Speaker 2: would have won this, that would have dropped to like
23:04
Speaker 2: what fifteen to one, twenty one, like it really would
23:07
Speaker 2: have jumped up because this would have been a huge
23:08
Speaker 2: win for them. And I'm so happy we haven't checked
23:12
Speaker 2: out on this team because it's it's what three straight
23:14
Speaker 2: weeks now we bet them and they keep coming through
23:17
Speaker 2: for us, So maybe we hop off, but they're clearly
23:20
Speaker 2: a different team right now and the books haven't caught
23:22
Speaker 2: up to it yet.
23:23
Speaker 1: I listen a couple of things on that I don't
23:26
Speaker 1: know if we're going to hop off, because the number
23:28
Speaker 1: next week for their game, which we'll talk about in
23:29
Speaker 1: week fourteen, is massive. Caroline has covered four straight and
23:36
Speaker 1: you're right, like, we walked away from them because there
23:39
Speaker 1: was we felt so badly betting them. They were not
23:44
Speaker 1: living up to what we believed their capabilities were based
23:49
Speaker 1: on our prognostication for the beginning of the year, so
23:52
Speaker 1: we couldn't conceivably bet them and feel good telling people
23:54
Speaker 1: to bet them, but they've been sneaking back the past month.
23:58
Speaker 1: We didn't choose them. Think the first time we bet them,
24:02
Speaker 1: but we liked them, and then we did choose them.
24:04
Speaker 1: I think the past two or three weeks people aren't
24:08
Speaker 1: paying attention like it. At one point they did an
24:11
Speaker 1: overhead shot of the stadium and it was pretty empty,
24:14
Speaker 1: and like I said to my I said to my son,
24:17
Speaker 1: I'm like, God, it's so empty. Do people not know
24:21
Speaker 1: that the Panthers are balling right now and that Bryce
24:24
Speaker 1: Young could actually be a really good quarterback and he's
24:27
Speaker 1: throwing accurate passes while getting chased and rolling out of
24:31
Speaker 1: the pocket, and he's been amazing. He looks at me,
24:34
Speaker 1: he goes, I don't think that stadium's going to be
24:38
Speaker 1: full in your lifetime. I felt really bad for the
24:43
Speaker 1: Panthers because ladies are better. They're a fun team. I
24:47
Speaker 1: like their coach, their quarterbacks playing well. Get on a badwagon.
24:51
Speaker 2: Obviously, I don't feel bad for Caroline. They had a
24:53
Speaker 2: great role with Cam Newte. I mean that twenty fifteen year,
24:55
Speaker 2: what was that fifteen to one? They went to the
24:56
Speaker 2: super Bowl and obviously losing this rule was brutal, but yeah,
25:01
Speaker 2: they had their time to shot. I mean they had
25:03
Speaker 2: they sold off to the stadium a little bit a
25:05
Speaker 2: long time ago. But you're right, like it's it's not
25:08
Speaker 2: shocking when you see they're staying empty right now. They're
25:10
Speaker 2: just totally abandoned by their fan base.
25:13
Speaker 1: People got to get on the bad wagon. This team's
25:15
Speaker 1: coming around. We're gonna be talking about them a lot
25:17
Speaker 1: next year. Uh, this was my favorite thing. So, like,
25:22
Speaker 1: you know, we're regretful about the Steelers not putting them in.
25:25
Speaker 1: We're regretful about uh, the Eagles and taking them out,
25:29
Speaker 1: but we're super glad that we put the Jags in.
25:35
Speaker 1: We're super glad that we put the Panthers in. We're
25:38
Speaker 1: super glad to be two and two.
25:40
Speaker 2: You're not remember for all the Chargers though you love
25:42
Speaker 2: the Chargers on Tuesday and then today you were totally
25:44
Speaker 2: off of them.
25:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what those are.
25:46
Speaker 2: Foxhill or your exact decision, right, it was one of.
25:48
Speaker 1: The foxhol and here, Honestly, we keep fucking doing this
25:52
Speaker 1: And I don't know why. I need to do a
25:53
Speaker 1: better job of paying attention to my notes from earlier
25:55
Speaker 1: in the week. Yeah, because we were so like so
26:01
Speaker 1: on the Steelers, on the Eagles, on the Chargers, and
26:06
Speaker 1: I feel like when you and I are doing the
26:08
Speaker 1: handicapping Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, we're on it and we're good
26:13
Speaker 1: and we are getting I think because like there have
26:16
Speaker 1: been some unlucky bounces for us and maybe some bad handicaps,
26:19
Speaker 1: and we got behind the eight ball earlier in the year.
26:23
Speaker 1: I think we're leaning too much into what we're hearing
26:25
Speaker 1: and some trends and not focused on what we know
26:30
Speaker 1: and when we have clarity, and I think we're we're
26:35
Speaker 1: getting antsy later in the week, and I like.
26:38
Speaker 2: I still think it's just been bad luck. I mean,
26:40
Speaker 2: like we just said, we've been capping the good games,
26:42
Speaker 2: but the charges one just it's just brutal because exactly
26:45
Speaker 2: what we talked about happened. We just said, that's their
26:48
Speaker 2: style of defense is the one that gives huge problems
26:50
Speaker 2: to Kirk Cousins. He threw fucking what foreignerceptions today? He
26:54
Speaker 2: was brutal.
26:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess my issue with that was I was
26:57
Speaker 1: really worried that the they were so injured on defense
27:04
Speaker 1: and JK. Dobbins was out and their.
27:06
Speaker 2: Well offense look different without them, right, they only put
27:09
Speaker 2: up ten points today without the six.
27:12
Speaker 1: I was just that was my concern, is like I
27:15
Speaker 1: got antsy about sort of all of the injuries. I
27:19
Speaker 1: think DJ Reid speaks for all of us. Did you
27:23
Speaker 1: see what he did after the Jets lost to the
27:26
Speaker 1: Seahawks sent out a tweet tagged the NFL officials, y'all
27:30
Speaker 1: fucking suck. You should be ashamed of yourselves. I think
27:35
Speaker 1: it's going to cost him. Yeah, but these games are excruciating.
27:41
Speaker 1: I honestly, like it's so frustrating to watch every There's
27:46
Speaker 1: got to be a study about between the penalties and
27:49
Speaker 1: the injuries. There must be thirty to forty percent of
27:53
Speaker 1: the game is stopped be in relation to the plays
27:58
Speaker 1: because of all the penalties injuries. It's just excruciating to
28:02
Speaker 1: watch these games. One more thing for you. Nick Westbrook Akina,
28:08
Speaker 1: who played football at the playoff bound Indiana University playing
28:14
Speaker 1: for the Hoosiers twenty catches this year, eight touchdowns, including
28:18
Speaker 1: four touchdowns in the past three games. That's crazy, Scott,
28:22
Speaker 1: I mean balling out for the Tennessee Titans. Was it
28:25
Speaker 1: showing up at one o'clock when everyone else is showing
28:27
Speaker 1: up at two thirty.
28:29
Speaker 2: I think I saw was a Valdez Scaling. There's I
28:31
Speaker 2: think it's someone for New Orleans who just got traded
28:33
Speaker 2: to him. He has four touchdowns in like four straight games.
28:36
Speaker 1: That's my other note. Marquez Veldez Scaling has four touchdowns
28:39
Speaker 1: and four games with.
28:39
Speaker 2: This sounds that is so bizarre.
28:42
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about some Week fourteen games. We
28:46
Speaker 1: talked about Carolina Carolina before we came on air, so
28:50
Speaker 1: I don't know if the line has moved. Was a
28:52
Speaker 1: thirteen point underdog at Philadelphia?
28:56
Speaker 2: Still thirteen? Yeah, they just said in our chat still thirteen,
28:59
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's how do we not bet it? That's
29:01
Speaker 2: that is incredibly high. But this is one that I
29:04
Speaker 2: could bet it now, and I wouldn't be shocked if
29:07
Speaker 2: I moved off this position right now once I've read
29:09
Speaker 2: in more into it. But because Carolina is I don't
29:15
Speaker 2: know how they stop Saquon that. I mean, we just
29:17
Speaker 2: saw what happened to you with Buck Irphen and that's like,
29:21
Speaker 2: I mean, Saquan again today, that's a really good run
29:24
Speaker 2: defense in the Ravens. I think you'reran for over one
29:26
Speaker 2: hundred yards today, Like he really is out of this
29:29
Speaker 2: playing out of this sport right now. This Eagles team
29:31
Speaker 2: is just so dominant, not just offensively, we defensively. They
29:36
Speaker 2: held a really great offense in the Ravens and check today.
29:38
Speaker 2: So yeah, they're complete teams. So I get why they've
29:41
Speaker 2: opened this at thirteen, but I think me and you
29:43
Speaker 2: both agree this feels like too many points to open
29:45
Speaker 2: with it.
29:45
Speaker 1: It does, I do, I do worry about the line
29:50
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and the Eagles just dominating. Yeah, they're so
29:56
Speaker 1: freaking good defensively.
29:58
Speaker 2: Three seven? Is that? That?
29:59
Speaker 1: To me?
30:00
Speaker 2: The fear with these type of games where it's like
30:01
Speaker 2: if Carolina kicks three field goals and the Eagles got
30:05
Speaker 2: three touchdowns and it's twenty one to nine, Yeah, we
30:07
Speaker 2: know that it could just be a steamroll in the
30:09
Speaker 2: second half. That's definitely a fear. Like you're mentioning.
30:12
Speaker 1: Uh. The other game I wanted to touch on that
30:16
Speaker 1: we talked about earlier. Cleveland is a six and a
30:19
Speaker 1: half point underdog at Pittsburgh. So a couple things here. One,
30:27
Speaker 1: as good as Tomlin is as a dog, he is
30:30
Speaker 1: as bad as a favorite. This is a very good
30:33
Speaker 1: defense for the Browns going into Pittsburgh. We just had
30:39
Speaker 1: this game. We expect these games to be relatively close,
30:44
Speaker 1: and it will be I expect Jamis to stink against
30:50
Speaker 1: the Broncos, which means he will come back and be
30:52
Speaker 1: good against the Steelers. So I haven't bet it yet,
30:58
Speaker 1: but that feels like line and we want to take
31:00
Speaker 1: the Browns.
31:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm gonna wait just just because we're we're
31:04
Speaker 2: heavy on the Broncos here, like I I'm hoping for
31:07
Speaker 2: a double digit We just roll Broncos game, but we
31:10
Speaker 2: know it's gonna be a sweat probably come down last possession,
31:13
Speaker 2: get the cover. But if it is a game, they
31:16
Speaker 2: blaw their rolling. And we just saw Pittsburgh have the
31:19
Speaker 2: best game of the year. I mean that was incredible
31:22
Speaker 2: how good they were offensively. So be patient. They should
31:26
Speaker 2: they should. They should give us a seven right now.
31:28
Speaker 2: Like I just said, though, if you want to grab
31:30
Speaker 2: it early before it moves, you know, there's two books
31:34
Speaker 2: or yeah, two really public books that should be legal
31:36
Speaker 2: in your state that have six and a half's right now.
31:39
Speaker 2: If you want to grab it now, go ahead, But
31:41
Speaker 2: this this to me should go up to seven.
31:44
Speaker 1: LA Chargers and Kansas City Chiefs. Chargers are four and
31:46
Speaker 1: a half.
31:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, another interesting number. They open to that high like
31:51
Speaker 2: that's it feels like it's only gonna come down, right,
31:55
Speaker 2: I can't see getting any higher than that. This is
31:58
Speaker 2: a really good Chargers team. I mean they're what they
32:02
Speaker 2: have eight wins now, they might have eight wins at
32:05
Speaker 2: this point. So yeah, this this Chiefs team. You know,
32:10
Speaker 2: they played early in the year. The Chargers had literally
32:13
Speaker 2: known their whole team was banked up at that point,
32:15
Speaker 2: and me and you took them I think at plus
32:18
Speaker 2: seven and a half landa RTT in the seven right,
32:21
Speaker 2: we got that cover and by a kickoff it had
32:23
Speaker 2: gone down to six and a half. So most people,
32:25
Speaker 2: unfortunately didn't get the cover of the Chargers team. So
32:28
Speaker 2: you know, that just shows how much healthier this Chargers
32:31
Speaker 2: team is now on the flip side of the Chiefs team.
32:34
Speaker 2: I think public reception is just, yeah, they're gonna win,
32:37
Speaker 2: but they're not going to cover. So that's the fear.
32:38
Speaker 2: Chat is Like, me and you have just been fading
32:41
Speaker 2: this Chiefs team basically every week and it's been really
32:45
Speaker 2: good to us. I don't mind going it again because
32:47
Speaker 2: it's four and a half, I'm gonna grab that now.
32:50
Speaker 2: But if it's three and a half come contest time.
32:52
Speaker 2: I don't know if we forced that winning, because it's
32:54
Speaker 2: like it feels like this should be the number. To me,
32:56
Speaker 2: it feels right, it's four here, four to four and
32:58
Speaker 2: a half. I'll take the value four and a half
33:00
Speaker 2: right now, bet three six five.
33:02
Speaker 1: How are the Chiefs tackles going to protect Patrick Mahomes.
33:08
Speaker 1: We saw what they did against the Raiders could not
33:12
Speaker 1: do it and nothing is going to change. And maybe
33:14
Speaker 1: DJ Humphrey gets back. But does that make that big
33:17
Speaker 1: of a difference. I don't know. I'm willing. I'm willing
33:20
Speaker 1: to bet the four and a half that it doesn't
33:22
Speaker 1: right now. It won't be a full unit, it'll be
33:26
Speaker 1: smaller just to get the four and a half. But
33:28
Speaker 1: it is interesting to me. Two more games that are
33:31
Speaker 1: interesting to me. Ready, Dallas plus five and a half
33:38
Speaker 1: at home? I think it's on Monday night versus the Bengals.
33:44
Speaker 2: I agree with you. At first glance, it's like, yeah,
33:47
Speaker 2: this this Bengals defense, who can they stop? The answer
33:51
Speaker 2: might be Cooper Rush.
33:53
Speaker 1: But it's the right number. Like I think it's inflated.
33:58
Speaker 1: It's probably inflated by it is at least a point
34:01
Speaker 1: and a half.
34:04
Speaker 2: I just love that your eyes immediately went to that game. Yeah,
34:06
Speaker 2: it's it's a giant home dog against a defense I
34:09
Speaker 2: can't stop. And I agree, take take the six. This
34:11
Speaker 2: is definitely gonna come down.
34:13
Speaker 1: Is it at six? Are you seeing six?
34:15
Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm about through six. Five it's it's at six.
34:18
Speaker 1: Wow, then then you have to take it. What am
34:21
Speaker 1: I missing?
34:23
Speaker 2: I'm shocked you didn't mention your Bears.
34:28
Speaker 1: So much to say about the Bears.
34:29
Speaker 2: There's still six plus six and a half minus one twenty.
34:32
Speaker 2: I mean, we love a good coaches fired team, especially
34:36
Speaker 2: a team where apparently your whole team was in the
34:38
Speaker 2: locker room telling this guy he's a fucking idiot after
34:41
Speaker 2: that game. I don't if you obviously you've heard all
34:43
Speaker 2: the rumors, but this was huge. An organization has a
34:47
Speaker 2: fire to coach midseason, And is it true it's one
34:49
Speaker 2: hundred years they have never done it.
34:50
Speaker 1: They've never done it, dude, Honestly.
34:53
Speaker 2: Six and a half grab it.
34:54
Speaker 1: I have. I have anecdotes and insight from this playing
35:00
Speaker 1: the Niners by the way on the road apparently, and
35:05
Speaker 1: I have been able to confirm this, but it's not libelous.
35:08
Speaker 1: So I'm happy to say it. The Bears had Ebra
35:14
Speaker 1: Flues do the nine am press conference postgit the day
35:18
Speaker 1: after they lost, as if he was still going to
35:20
Speaker 1: be there, and then they fired him at eleven o'clock. So,
35:24
Speaker 1: of course, like I'm texting with my buddies, and the
35:28
Speaker 1: first thing someone responds is clearly, time management is a
35:34
Speaker 1: systemic issue within the organization. Number one. Number two the
35:39
Speaker 1: Instagram post after they announced the firing. The first comment
35:43
Speaker 1: for the Bears Instagram feed was from a fan who said,
35:47
Speaker 1: do we get to keep the time out or does
35:49
Speaker 1: ebra Flues get to take that with him? Which was amazing,
35:53
Speaker 1: But apparently this is sourced by my father who told
36:01
Speaker 1: me this story yesterday morning when I call him on
36:03
Speaker 1: Saturdays when I'm walking the dog. That the one of
36:06
Speaker 1: the reasons for the timing issue is that the Bears,
36:10
Speaker 1: who have never fired a coach in the middle of
36:11
Speaker 1: the season because they're so freaking cheap they don't want
36:14
Speaker 1: to have to hire someone new. They had to get
36:18
Speaker 1: the permission of Virginia McCaskey, and she either was not
36:22
Speaker 1: awake or was not available before the press conference, and
36:26
Speaker 1: so then it happened after the press conference when they
36:30
Speaker 1: could finally get Virginia CASKEI to sign off on firing
36:33
Speaker 1: him mid season.
36:35
Speaker 2: I wonder how many more, how many new Virginias are
36:38
Speaker 2: being born nowadays. I feel like that's an old old
36:40
Speaker 2: name not to be.
36:41
Speaker 1: She's one hundred years old.
36:42
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, let's get the ones that jump out to
36:46
Speaker 2: mirror away, Chad. I would love to hear your viewing
36:47
Speaker 2: this Miami. I feel like Tua even last week that
36:52
Speaker 2: loss was on him against Green Bay. That was kind
36:55
Speaker 2: of like their whole team sucked. They're now at home
36:57
Speaker 2: against this Jets team that that was their best shot.
37:01
Speaker 2: Like Rogers looked actually good in that game. He was
37:04
Speaker 2: moving well. And then whatever it is, I mean, maybe
37:07
Speaker 2: it's his age. He just falls off this cliff where
37:10
Speaker 2: he misses he throws or he just like, I mean,
37:13
Speaker 2: you know, he missed a touchdown. The next play he
37:15
Speaker 2: throws a pick. Like it's just been that type of
37:17
Speaker 2: season for him. You can still get six and a
37:20
Speaker 2: half right now in Miami and a half. That's a
37:23
Speaker 2: line that jumps out to me.
37:25
Speaker 1: Before we went on the air. That was at seven.
37:27
Speaker 1: That's why I didn't say it. That's why I didn't
37:30
Speaker 1: fly it is because it was his seven.
37:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, not shocking the professionals. I mean, we got sucked
37:34
Speaker 2: in last week you saw. I mean Evan told talked
37:37
Speaker 2: about it. Since they had this new head coach, they've
37:40
Speaker 2: been a favorite every week, right even when they're a dog.
37:43
Speaker 2: The line has moved basically every week then being a favorite,
37:46
Speaker 2: and they've covered what that one game against Houston and
37:50
Speaker 2: that's it. Every other one they're just getting ruined. So
37:53
Speaker 2: I'm so happy we didn't just force that one back
37:55
Speaker 2: in because that was a game You're right. When they
37:57
Speaker 2: were up, I was like, how did we switch down that?
38:00
Speaker 2: Because I did bet the two and a half. I
38:02
Speaker 2: did bet their money line when they were a big dog.
38:04
Speaker 2: But luckily the fighty senses went off with us and
38:06
Speaker 2: we were just like, nah, nah, this numbers move too much.
38:09
Speaker 2: They suck. I'm not. I feel like I'm gonna try
38:12
Speaker 2: to hold my ground this week with it where it's
38:14
Speaker 2: like this is a good matchup for this Miami team
38:17
Speaker 2: and this every game for them is a playoff game Miami,
38:21
Speaker 2: but like this is really a game where we should
38:24
Speaker 2: see that they are a better team than the Jets.
38:26
Speaker 2: That one jumps out. Would love to hear your view
38:29
Speaker 2: on this Green Bay game.
38:32
Speaker 1: I flagged it. I wrote it down Green Bay plus
38:35
Speaker 1: four at Detroit Thursday night. Detroit's got eighteen people on
38:40
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball that are on the
38:42
Speaker 1: injury list right now. Yeah, I don't know how you
38:47
Speaker 1: bet on Detroit. This just feels like a game. Obviously,
38:52
Speaker 1: they need it, Like Minnesota is right behind them, Philadelphia
38:57
Speaker 1: is right behind them. They can out of Ford to
39:00
Speaker 1: lose any ground at all if they want to be
39:02
Speaker 1: able to stay in Detroit throughout the playoffs. But man,
39:08
Speaker 1: this team is struggling and they they should have won
39:11
Speaker 1: that game forty two or nothing. They could not score
39:14
Speaker 1: in the red zone, they kicked field goals, they fumbled.
39:18
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's so frustrating because we love the
39:21
Speaker 1: lines in that game and they really dominated. But in
39:24
Speaker 1: the second half, every other play someone got injured. And
39:27
Speaker 1: if not for ebra Fluse not understanding the you know,
39:32
Speaker 1: rules of clock management, the Bears might win that game
39:36
Speaker 1: because the lines didn't have anybody left. So I feel
39:41
Speaker 1: like the Packers are confident. It's a great spot for them.
39:44
Speaker 1: I'd lean Packers on Thursday night at four.
39:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's down a three and a half.
39:49
Speaker 2: Every book now so it's.
39:50
Speaker 1: Like, I'd still take the three and a half. I'm
39:52
Speaker 1: getting the hook and I to me, it's about me too.
39:55
Speaker 2: It's just one that jumped out here right away because
39:56
Speaker 2: it's like, why is this three and a half? Because
39:58
Speaker 2: I totally agree with everything just said this. This is
40:01
Speaker 2: not the same Detroit team is even just two weeks ago,
40:04
Speaker 2: Like these injuries have just piled up, and it's a
40:06
Speaker 2: lot of key starters. It's not just special teams, guys.
40:10
Speaker 2: These are like, okay, you're d n You're starting linebacker,
40:13
Speaker 2: starting cornerbackers, starting safety. It's like, oh my god, man,
40:15
Speaker 2: Like this is.
40:16
Speaker 1: They're signing Jamal Adams to the practice squad. That's how
40:19
Speaker 1: terrifying that it is right now for them.
40:22
Speaker 2: So that I'm with you chat, I one that jumps
40:24
Speaker 2: out where it's like I'm gonna take that three and
40:26
Speaker 2: a half now while it's still there, because this line
40:30
Speaker 2: that's gonna dip but moves enough will come on the
40:33
Speaker 2: other side. Like I'd much rather be Undertroit honestly than
40:35
Speaker 2: Green Bay and this spot, especially if it gets a
40:37
Speaker 2: two and a half, because like me and Chad have
40:40
Speaker 2: experienced it, it's it's not fun betting against Detroit, like
40:43
Speaker 2: they're just such a high powered offense. They're really one
40:46
Speaker 2: of those few teams that only they beat themselves like
40:48
Speaker 2: that Bears game. I me mean you talk about they
40:50
Speaker 2: beat themselves there, like that opening half. If if any
40:54
Speaker 2: one of those field goals a touchdown, they cover the
40:56
Speaker 2: nine and a half. But that was the only reasoning
40:58
Speaker 2: to cover is because they kicked four fields. They missed
41:00
Speaker 2: the fifth one, so.
41:03
Speaker 1: On the five yard line.
41:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the funbel on the fire, so that's when
41:06
Speaker 2: they jumped out. Interesting gave jumps on another one. Kirk
41:10
Speaker 2: Cousins on the road in Minnesota. Are we getting lazy here?
41:14
Speaker 2: We're going to play the revenge factor this man, it's
41:17
Speaker 2: not I was going towards this old team.
41:20
Speaker 1: To me, I looked at that one too, and it
41:24
Speaker 1: felt you say lazy. I was going to say fascile.
41:27
Speaker 1: But it's the same thing like it just it's lazy.
41:30
Speaker 2: Take this week. It's like, oh, Kirk plus four and
41:32
Speaker 2: a half dog against his old team.
41:34
Speaker 1: It's to me, it's not about that. It's about Look,
41:39
Speaker 1: the Vikings defense has not been as good as it's.
41:43
Speaker 2: Plus six at one. I can't say the name of
41:46
Speaker 2: the book. It's plus six right now. One book.
41:48
Speaker 1: If it's plus six, you gotta take it. Like to me,
41:51
Speaker 1: we got on air it was a plus five, and
41:53
Speaker 1: I thought that was like two.
41:55
Speaker 2: Books plus four and a half or plus five. But
41:57
Speaker 2: this one book, one very public book is plus six
42:00
Speaker 2: right now. That's that's too much respect for the Minnesota Vikings.
42:04
Speaker 1: Yes, Minnesota Vikings, So I agree with you.
42:13
Speaker 2: And then just a game that caught my eye right away,
42:16
Speaker 2: Buffalo minus three and a half against La Rams. I
42:21
Speaker 2: have lost a small house this year betting this Rams
42:26
Speaker 2: team at home as a dog in this exact spot.
42:28
Speaker 2: I mean the Green Bay game, the Eagles game. This
42:32
Speaker 2: I'm not. I can't get sucked her in it once again?
42:33
Speaker 2: Can I?
42:34
Speaker 1: Like?
42:34
Speaker 2: This is literally I keep thinking this is the exact
42:36
Speaker 2: spot this Rams team covers, and I think we're kind
42:38
Speaker 2: of figuring out now where It's like now they're good
42:40
Speaker 2: against really bad teams, and they just get rolled by
42:43
Speaker 2: talented good teams. So I am fighting the demons right now,
42:47
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna try to take this Buffalo team at
42:49
Speaker 2: minus three and a half just in case they roll
42:51
Speaker 2: tonight and this goes up to four to four and
42:52
Speaker 2: a half.
42:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not even that good against bad teams. They
42:58
Speaker 1: barely beat the same today. There's something about that. They
43:02
Speaker 1: are weirdly ineffective for lengthy moments of the game. They
43:09
Speaker 1: were losing six to nothing in the first half. They
43:11
Speaker 1: had a great opening drive, then kind of disappeared, then
43:15
Speaker 1: they scored again, like they did not have any sustained
43:19
Speaker 1: momentum or build on their foundational drives at all.
43:26
Speaker 2: I love our listeners. Alana's already down the five and
43:28
Speaker 2: a half of that book I was talking about. I
43:30
Speaker 2: just watched it move so best, you sons of bitches.
43:32
Speaker 2: I was really going to try to hit that myself,
43:34
Speaker 2: so already gone.
43:35
Speaker 1: This is what we do. We give, and we give,
43:38
Speaker 1: and we give a lot of games on the board
43:40
Speaker 1: that we've already hit on. So it'll be interesting to
43:44
Speaker 1: see where we land. Simon, I'm begging us, let's find
43:48
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43:52
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43:57
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