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EXPOSED: The Dark Web of UK Rape Gangs, Political Blackmail, and Corruption w/ David Vance · Man in America Podcast

• 0:13
  Seth Holehouse: Welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hulghouse. So if you're watching what's going on in Europe right now, you can thank Elon Musk for basically kicking the hornet's nest, except the hornet's nest is a bunch of politicians and police officers covering up grooming gangs, or at least that's how it looks, and they're investigating it. But what we're seeing, though, is just the real effects of these George Soros funded and and globalist, you know, funded initiatives of mass migration of bringing, you know, people from Pakistan all over Africa, you know, and flooding into Europe. I mean, immigration in America, the illegal immigration, I would say, has been wretched with the border being wide open and everyone kinda flowing through the Darien Gap and through Mexico.
• 1:01
  But over in Europe, you have the same thing happening, and they're they're sharing land masses with a lot of these countries that are just swarming in, and you're seeing a massive shift in the demographics. Seeing massive increases in rape and violent crime and and all kinds of bad things. And, you know, what we recently has come to light that I think that within within England that there's been roughly a quarter million rapes, I think, of the the past, say, two, two and a half decades since they've been tracking it of, you know, young young women. And this is what, you know, I covered in my live show last night was the the rape of Europe. And so joining us today is David Vance, great Irish patriot.
• 1:43
  So he's in Northern North Ireland. He's he's a podcaster and a commentator, and just someone who really has his head on straight. And so it'd be good to talk to talk to him and say, you know, David, you're over there. You're in The UK. What's it like for you?
• 1:56
  What's going on? What's he seeing? Does he have hope in the future of Ireland and of Europe? How is it changing the demographics in his regions? There's a lot to unpack here, but this is really important because even though I'm American, my roots are his roots.
• 2:12
  Right? You know, I'm a little bit of a mutt, but I'm I think I'm a I'm a quarter German. So I I think I'm a quarter German, and I've got a bunch of Irish, Scottish, you know, Welsh, you know, so that that region, that's where I'm from. That's where the the the ginger beard comes in. But, you know, this is thing is is that for everyone here in America that is so focused on America, we forget that our roots for many of us goes we go back to Europe.
• 2:36
  And so that's where David is at. And so getting an update on what's happening in Europe and what the future of Europe looks like is very important to me. So I hope you enjoy the show. If this is your first time, you know, watching Made in America, welcome. I hope that you enjoy the content, and you'll find that this interview today is an example of the kind of shows that I am doing.
• 2:54
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• 4:44
  So vinetastic.com for your health, for your body, for your life. Mister David Vance, it's been quite some time since I last had had you on the show, but thank you for, being here coming from all the way across the pond, I guess, as we'd say.
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: My my my pleasure to be back. I mean, it's it seems forever since we spoke last, Seth, and so much has happened since then. So, you know, it's good to catch up again.
• 5:10
  Seth Holehouse: Absolutely. So before we jump in to the kind of nuts and bolts of today's discussion, give us a little bit of background. I know that you're you're Irish. You're in Northern Ireland. Just give us just for people who's like, okay.
• 5:22
  Who is this guy? Is this, you know, JD Vance's uncle? Alright. You know, give us a little bit of your background.
• 5:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I I am. I have to confess, I am J. D. Vance's long forgotten uncle.
• 5:31
  Actually, J. D. Vance and myself, we share the same name and actually similar heritage. His family settled in the Appalachians, as you know, hillbillies and all that. And that's where the Vance family moved.
• 5:49
  They moved through Scotland, through Ireland, across into The US. So, believe you me, Seth, I have never been as happy whenever President Trump gives any of his speeches and I can see Trump vance, I'm thinking I'm there in spirit. So, who am I? I mean, I'm someone who's been in this game for a long time of political commentary. I've been extensively on most of the mainstream media before I was completely banned from the mainstream media, I should add.
• 6:20
  So I'm a very, very bad boy. The BBC, people like that don't like me. Written a book, I'm an author, I am a bon vivre and enjoyer of the political machinations that we see in front of us. I've got a very active Twitter account and yeah, I'm just someone who's engaged. And, yeah, you brought it up in all the political follies of these times.
• 6:49
  David Vance, I've been there. I wandered onto Twitter in 02/2009, was taken off Twitter in 2020, take brought back by Elon in 2022. And I had the pleasure, actually, Seth, of a response from Elon Musk the other day.
• 7:04
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, did you?
• 7:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I did. Yeah. Which kinda blew up my Twitter, to be fair, in terms of, like, millions and millions of views. So, yeah, I'm so basically, like, I'm I am a British citizen living on the island of Ireland and very aware of all the stuff that's going on.
• 7:23
  So, and that's why I'm loving actually. I've never enjoyed a start to the year as I have to 2025. It's gonna be awesome. And it's all thanks to what's happening in your part of the world, but that's affecting my part of the world.
• 7:41
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. It's amazing, isn't it? It so last night, I I did a a live show, that was really covering the rape of Europe. Right? It was, you know, I I'd seen information coming out about these, you know, these grooming gangs, and and, you know, you'd see people like Peter Sweden or various influences out of Europe talking about what's happening in in their own, you know, respective countries.
• 8:04
  Speaker 2: But I did I did the
• 8:04
  Seth Holehouse: deep dive, especially after a lot of these tweets that, you know, Elon has been really highlighting and really dug into, just the the the history of this crisis and the cover up, especially within, you know, London, you know, the surrounding areas, England, etcetera. So Yep. But I wanted to see because I know that I know that Europe has been targeted very, very heavily with immigration and very, very liberal policies to the point that you had police officers and and whole, you know, kind of large, you know, swaths of them turning a blind eye to a foreigner, an immigrant raping, and and even maybe murdering because they didn't wanna be come across as Islamophobic or they wanna create a race war, and so they allowed these things to happen. They're basically following Sharia law. And so you're obviously, you're you know, Ireland has been targeted very heavily.
• 8:57
  I'm seeing a lot of different videos coming out of what's happening there. What's your overall assessment? What's it like being in in that part of Europe and and seeing this happen?
• 9:09
  Speaker 2: Being in Sharia, UK. Yeah. Well, I mean, I mean, I've been talking about this for years and years. I remember leading a delegation of victims of these sort of rape gangs in the House of Lords back in about 2018, I think it was. But here's the punchline.
• 9:28
  The punchline is very simple. The entire British and Irish establishments are well aware of everything that's been going on. That's point number one. But point number two, Seth, because they control the media, the mainstream media in particular, and back in the days of Twitter one point zero, if anybody even used the term rape gangs and mainly Pakistani rape gangs, you were were erased. It was not to be spoken of.
• 9:58
  And one of the really shocking reasons, which I think your viewers might be interested in fully understanding, is that corruption, and Elon has helped expose it, but it goes really deep. You see, it's not just people being scared of being accused of being Islamophobic because they say something about stuff going on in their local neighborhood. The establishment has engaged in some of this. We've had police officers in places like Rutherham, One of the towns, who engaged in the grooming activity. So, you know, it's really deep.
• 10:34
  My view is that the entire establishment all the way down in on this in different ways and honestly, they'd have gotten away with it, Seth, were it not for one man, and that man is Elon Musk. He has blown this one up, and the rape of Europe, the rape of Britain, the rape of Ireland, it's now all in play. And the politicians are like rats scurrying for cover, trying to be evasive about it and avoid the fact that they sat back and done nothing. If you've done deep dive, if you've seen some of the transcripts of some of the, it's all, I mean, it's horrific. What just horrific.
• 11:14
  And going on in a part of, you know, like people of this image of Ye Olde England, you know, merry old England, Shakespearean England. It ain't like that in certain places anymore. It's more like Afghanistan. That's what it's like because of immigration. Immigration came in right about 2015 in particular, but these gangs have been operating with relative impunity, I would suggest from about the turn of the century.
• 11:42
  So we're twenty five years in and so many young girls have been, as you say, they've been tortured, they've been sexually abused, some have been murdered. I'm not going to some of the awfulness, but that's been going on. And now we're getting the disinfectant of the truth being shone into the darkness, deep, deep darkness, and and I'm thankful for that.
• 12:04
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, I am too. You mentioned the transcripts, and and this is one that is not too graphic, but this was actually, in my opinion, one of the most mind blowing transcripts I read, which kinda it shows you what the overall environment is like. Right? So here, this is an ex a brief examination of the case of of 12 year old Samantha. Right?
• 12:25
  So it says that Samantha was this is back in October '20 '2 thousand '6. Samantha was abducted by two Asian men, which I think they're, you know, mostly Pakistani. Yep. So she was abducted by two Asian men who drove her around Oldham for hours then raped her. Then they threw her out of a moving car in the Chatterton area of Oldham.
• 12:46
  She ran away and asked another man for help. He invited Samantha inside and then dragged her upstairs and sexually assaulted her. She ran away whilst he was calling his friends to come and join him. At that point, a taxi driver and his passenger pulled up beside her to ask if she was okay. They said she looked very upset and like she'd been through hell, so they offered to take her to the police station and then home.
• 13:09
  They then took her to a house on Attic Close, took her inside, and then locked her in a room where five Asian men went on to rape her over and over again for nearly twenty four hours. So, like, this is like, to me, it's not just this isn't just like there's one bad guy. I mean, what this shows me is that they're they're lurking everywhere, this girl to her into that, and it's just it's mind blowing. And so you mentioned, you know, Sharia Law and also then, you know, a lot of the police, it's not that they're following Sharia law. I mean, so would you say that a lot of basically, that UK is is living under Sharia law instead of the I mean
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well well well, I mean, I'm I I responded to Elon Musk earlier today. There are this is matter of fact, check it out. There are 85 Sharia courts in The UK. Eighty Five functional Sharia courts.
• 14:01
  Now that's been allowed since 02/2005. That's growing all the time. So we've got parallel justice systems. So we've got Sharia justice systems and then we've got, if you like, British justice. That's not right, Seth.
• 14:16
  So every one of those Sharia courts needs to be closed down for starters. But the thing is that there are parts of England in particular, particularly England, the old working class towns, they've been essentially colonized by immigrants, a lot of them from Pakistan and Bangladesh. And that's why in that excerpt that you read, and you actually were salvy to it, it talks about Asian. But Asian is a euphemism. I mean, we need to be precise with our words here.
• 14:51
  It is mostly, I think roughly eighty five percent of the rapes were committed by men of Pakistani heritage, which is, I think, in the data. So we just be factual on it. So I find that very offensive to my friends from places like India, say, who are of Asian origin, but who are perfectly integrated and contribute to British society. But those people, what if they contributed to us apart from rape, torture, and incredible distress? You think about that young girl in that excerpt.
• 15:25
  She was 12 year old when that happened. I know some of these people. You know, they were kids when it happened, obviously. And that's the other thing. Was girls.
• 15:33
  Wasn't adults. It was girls they preyed on, Seth. And so these people, you know, they're damaged. They may have survived the attacks, but the psychological damage probably lasts forever, to be honest. And that's why at a bare minimum, we must get justice for them.
• 15:53
  And that means everyone involved in the activities and the cover ups and all of that said, they need to be put on trial and sentenced. That's what we need.
• 16:03
  Seth Holehouse: Well, so that leads me to my next question is when I'm looking at this and and you're, you know, kind of analyzing it. Okay. So you see you see these immigrants coming in, and there's this crisis of rape. But then you see the cover up. You see the police officers covering and not just the police officers.
• 16:20
  Right? Even up to the highest levels of of the government covering it up. Yep. Which makes me the question that I ask with that is is is it in some way tied to a blackmail operation? Like, are these people that are, you know, are running these these these these child trafficking rings?
• 16:38
  Because that's what they are. It's child sex trafficking. That's it's not a even to say these are rape gangs or whatever, it's like, no. This is this is organized crime, child sex trafficking. And so it makes me wonder, though, is are some of these politicians, have they been at higher levels?
• 16:55
  Obviously, you have the low level of you know, you have, like, a group of, say, six Pakistani men that just are raping someone at you know, out of whatever, you know, they they get out of that. But then at a higher level, it's like, well, how is it that even almost at the prime minister level? Right? And there's a video that I played yesterday. This policewoman had come forth, and she said that under Gordon Brown, there was a directive that went out that basically all the police saying that, look.
• 17:19
  If you see this happening, we've it's like our official stance is that these young girls have given their consent. Don't look into it. So it's like, how does that happen if there's not some sort of much larger criminal syndicate that's that that they're part of?
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a really good question. And and, I mean, the and the obvious answer is that things like that don't just happen organically, Seth. There there's there's several there's several ways you can look at it. First of all, certainly in The UK, there's been a a a desire not to be negative about Islam. There's a great and that's right up until today.
• 18:01
  We've seen in the past day or two, the Prime Minister of The UK more concerned about Muslims in The UK than the victims of these gangs, that's disturbing. Then the other thing is, and we have to be honest, you know, I believe that there is a lot of control at high levels in political and, say, in the judiciary, dare I say as well, and that control influences sentencing. And we say that by, I mean, some of the worst thing imaginable, you have some of these, the limited numbers of these individuals who have been tried, Seth, and convicted, get a couple of years in prison and they're out after a year and a half. Meanwhile, last summer, people were posting memes on Facebook in the aftermath of the murder of three young girls, a slaughter of three young girls. And some of them have gone away for four and a half years.
• 19:02
  Yeah, yeah, absolutely. There you go. I mean, how does that happen, Seth? And I answered you to reflect your own question back. There's a reason for that.
• 19:13
  So, you know, you put a spicy meme and you could be going away. You rape a 12 year old, Dennis. Community ours. Why does it I've got big concerns about the British judiciary. I've got to say, big concerns, concerns about the British policing, concerns about the British political system, all of those things.
• 19:32
  And I think it's all related. It's a big, big, big thing. And really, it's only now and I'll tell you what's great, Seth. It's great that guys like yourself and some of the America might be our salvation because your impact on this issue is monumental. And I see a lot of these girls that have gone through this.
• 19:54
  And all of a sudden, they were being ignored. People like me might talk about it, but look, I can be ignored. But there's so many big American names now getting involved and going, what the heck's happened in The UK? And it's brilliant because now the issue is live. It's absolutely live, and the people involved have nowhere to hide.
• 20:15
  Nowhere.
• 20:16
  Seth Holehouse: And so with you being in Ireland, and and there's a post I was trying to pull up before, and I couldn't find it. Was, I think it was Harry Fisher who's who's an EMT that your paramedic I've interviewed before, and he has access to this some sort of in in development AI that's highly uncensored. And one of the questions that someone had asked him to ask this AI, and I couldn't find his response, was basically, you know, why is Ireland being targeted? You know? And one of the the response to AI from what I remember from it is Todd said that, look.
• 20:44
  Ireland is a country where they hold so strong to family values and their tradition, and they it's very hard to bring in these outside forces and use it to break up their culture and and destroy the nation like they've been fighting to hold on to it. And so I wanted to ask you, you know, as someone living in in Ireland, in Northern Ireland Yep. What's it like for you? What is what is your what's your culture like that it's that's slamming up against this other culture that's trying to come in? Are you are you holding strong there?
• 21:14
  Are people kinda going back to their roots, or how are you seeing Yeah. Ireland changed amidst this?
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: It's it's absolutely a great question. Ireland obviously is traditional, very family, very, very family faith focused, country heritage. That's been the essence of Ireland, And the family unit is obviously our greatest defense. We know that anywhere in the world against the things that might intrude. But that all started to change towards the end of the century, leading up to 2,000.
• 21:47
  And subsequent to then, Ireland, which up until that point was pretty much 99.9% Irish, isn't anymore, Seth. And I mean, it's my view looking at the demographics that by 02/1940, certainly 02/1950, the Irish will be a minority in Ireland. And that's because just relative numbers, you know, it's a small country, 5,000,000. The US city is bigger than that. London's twice the size of that.
• 22:13
  So you can infiltrate very, very quickly. And if you do that in parallel with the dismantling of the family unit, So Ireland, for example, was was was anti abortion, not anymore. It was very much pro traditional values. Therefore, it didn't embrace the LGBTQ plus family breaking narrative. It does now.
• 22:36
  The Irish political elite are all globalists, all of them. And so they're working hand in glove to dismantle the essence of Ireland from within. And they do that by importing vast numbers of people from, let's say, the third world, and and it is impacting. Now there is a counter to that, and there are some Irish people standing up, and, we saw that recently at the election, where one of the biggest parties in Ireland is a party called independence. So it's just independent Irish people who say, we don't want this.
• 23:11
  This is not what we we didn't fight to have an independent Ireland from Britain, and then hand it over to globalism and migrants. And so Ireland's in the mix as well. But my big concern about our Well, I've got a couple of things about Ireland, idea. First of which is that, you know, the globalists in control of Ireland have been incredibly critical of Donald Trump, very, very critical of Donald Trump. And I think they're going to be given a lesson in actions.
• 23:45
  For every action, there is an equal reaction. And so, you know, Ireland is the Irish economy is based on American companies like Google, like Twitter, like Facebook. All these companies are all headquartered in Dublin for the whole European business because of the low tax rates. Now, suggest to you that Donald Trump might think he'd rather have that tax paid in The States, and those companies may be encouraged potentially at any rate to relocate back to The States, especially if you've got an Irish government that's on record hating Donald Trump. So Ireland's in all kinds of trouble.
• 24:24
  It should have stuck to true values, Seth. It should have stuck to Irish values, but it didn't. The political elite sold out. Under Biden, they got away with it. But now I'm hoping that there's going to be a cold wind blow across the, Atlantic, and maybe that'll shake them up.
• 24:40
  Who knows?
• 24:42
  Seth Holehouse: And so is there a, like, a MIGA movement? Like, a make Ireland great again? Is is there a
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: The the the there of course, there there is. Yeah. I mean, there's a the the the we we obviously, there's always patriots in every country. Again, we've struggled in Ireland because the media, we've got a very small media that dominate everything. It's completely controlled by the government, totally controlled.
• 25:08
  So, and there's that issue. The second issue for Ireland is that they're introducing, it just went through over Christmas, hate laws. Hate laws, which basically, yeah, which means that basically if you criticize the government, that's a hate crime, and you could go to prison. So as liberties and freedom start to increase in The US, thanks to the dawn of Trump two point zero, in Ireland, are actually it's arguably the dark ages because the Irish government wants to clamp down on that because they don't want people these conversations that you and I are having, they don't want people in Ireland to hear those conversations. So, I'm not sure where Ireland's going, but what I do know is that, you know, a country with great heritage going back, you know, a long, long time, centuries and centuries, has been hijacked by globalism, and people Irish people need to fight back just like British people need to fight back.
• 26:09
  And do we have the strength? No. We don't. But just to be honest with you, we don't. But we have a great ally who does have the strength, and that's you guys in The States.
• 26:18
  Seth Holehouse: And so do you find that obviously, I I would assume that you're connecting with a lot of the patriots in Ireland and and that you're Yep. You know, kind of forming little groups and and, you know, kind of talking about things. And so among the the Irish patriots, do you do you find that there's a a a large focus on what's happening in America?
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think of well, Ireland and America have got I mean, we've got an incredible, you know, connection. Not just Jetty Vance, but going back, you know, I mean, I I think Obama claimed to be of some sort of Irish heritage even though I'm not not sure how that one worked out, but he claimed it.
• 26:57
  Seth Holehouse: Well, I've I've got Irish heritage. I I can you know, look at the the red and the beard. You can see I've got a lot of Scotch Irish in me. And so
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So so so the two I mean, the the the there's there's a commonality there. And and and I think, Irish people in particular, Irish patriots, look to American patriots, and we see the kind of, you know, the 1776 spirit that you guys have had. It's also, if you like, a 1916, '19 '20 '1 thing when it comes to Ireland. It's about standing up and wanting to assert your right to your country.
• 27:32
  Right, so there is that deep sort of almost spiritual connection and one of the things though that worries me about Ireland is that, Seth, and you'll understand this, whenever the Irish famine hit and obviously so many people lost their lives, that basically splintered the Irish diaspora across the world, particularly to the New World. And that's still, if you go to Dublin, I mean, there's so much history about that. So Ireland's kind of, I think Irish people psychologically felt, if it hadn't been for guys like The States bringing us in, allowing us Irish migrants to come to The States, what would we have done? We would have perished, it would have been the end. And in a sense, that's guilted them.
• 28:19
  And the globalists have jumped in on that, because now they're saying, well, you know, there's people from Nigeria, from Somalia, wherever it is, you know, we have to bring them in just like we were brought in, but it's not the same. The Irish came to The States to build your roads, to build your bridges, at least to help anyway, and to make a great contribution. That's not what's happening now. The people that are coming to Ireland now aren't building anything. They're destroying, and the destruction's only starting.
• 28:49
  So, you know, it's an interesting psychological inversion in mindset of the Irish people who did require to just survive, they needed them to migrate, but because they were starving to death. And the government and the establishment guilts them on that and makes them think well yeah and so you can't complain when we bring in you know a couple of million because that's when the numbers are phenomenal. If you bring in about 2,000,000 migrants, into a country like Ireland, you've changed it forever, and it's well on the way to that set. So, you know, we need to make Ireland great again, for sure. And maybe the way we do that is take inspiration from The United States at this point.
• 29:30
  Seth Holehouse: In terms of your political class, you you mentioned them all being globalist, which, you know, it makes sense. I mean, look at you know, it doesn't matter what country you're in pretty much. Like, that's what's what's happening. Obviously, there's some, you know you know, the countries like, you know, Poland, for instance, say they've really resisted a lot of this. Hungary.
• 29:47
  You know, there's been some instances of that, but, you know, from your perspective, is there do you see any any candidates, or is there any kind of hope on the horizon? I know Conor McGregor at one time was talking about, you know, running for
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: He did.
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  Speaker 2: the legal You know, Conor McGregor did talk about that, and instantly, there were all these hit pieces of
• 32:02
  Seth Holehouse: Conor McGregor. In a trial, like a rape trial.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. All that. Yeah. Instantly.
• 32:07
  You know? So so so but but in a way, that's quite good because that makes you see that the Irish establishment is concerned about the fact that there could be, you know, breakthrough figures. Conor being
• 32:18
  Seth Holehouse: Or like Andrew Tate announcing he's gonna run for private history.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: As well. Yeah. That that petrifies the the the Irish, establishment that a non controlled figure might actually get through because they're all about control. In the case of Ireland, you know, can understand why globalism has been incredibly successful in essentially making sure that it doesn't matter which of the part. Mean, there was an Irish election in December, think it was early December or November.
• 32:49
  Didn't matter. I mean, we still haven't got a government. Still no government. Yeah. Even longer than it takes you guys to get from November to inauguration.
• 32:58
  And it's going to be the usual sort of Euro combining different parties. It's not clear where things go. It's just more of the same. Ireland needs actually said, I'll tell you what it needs. It needs a revolution.
• 33:17
  It needs a revolution in 2025, just like it had one hundred years ago, just over one hundred years ago. And sometimes, you guys know, it's amazing what can trigger a revolution. It might be you know, tea in Boston. Who knows what it might be, Guinness and Dublin. Don't know, maybe there'll be a Guinness revolution.
• 33:39
  Because if there isn't, Ireland is going into a bad place. But I prefer to look on the upside. And I know there's loads of Irish patriots out there. We're all feeling like everyone feels the same. And that is, if it wasn't for social media platforms and stuff like that, it would be so much harder.
• 33:57
  Because we can't get we can't be heard in the mainstream, which cannot be. I mean, just just imagine if all you ever had was CNN and ABC, that's where we are, except for social media. But that's what they're now going after with the hate crime. So that's why, for example, Mark Zuckerberg announces that he's giving, he's gonna if you're into Facebook, which I'm not, but if you were, if you believed him, if you were, he's lifting the fact checkers, yeah, in The US, but not in Ireland, not in The UK. And there's a reason for that.
• 34:30
  And the reason for that is the egregious anti free speech legislation, which you guys happily don't have to worry about now that Kamala's not getting in par, we we have it. This is here. So that's why Zuckerberg doesn't wanna be sued for 17% of global turnover of meta, which is what the the penalty would be. It's challenging times for us, but we have to keep going. We don't give up.
• 34:59
  Seth Holehouse: No. You don't. And and you you mentioned a revolution, and I'm not sure. Are you familiar with Martin Armstrong? I've had him on my show a handful of times and brilliant guy, but one thing that he's talked about it makes me think I I should message him to interview him about this is that he's talked about a what he refers to, I think, is, like, more like a global civil war.
• 35:18
  And so he has his models that are they're predicting based upon trends and, cycles and all the new data that he has. And something that he's, you know, regularly comp against with his all his models are showing that by, say, twenty, thirty, 30 one, 30 two, all governments around the world have collapsed. And he talks about it is, like, at that point like, by by that point, he says late twenty twenties, you start seeing a massive turmoil. And by, say, 2030 and and the the couple years after that, that you're gonna see basically an overthrow of governments globally because that's the thing is you you know, we're talking earlier about how, oh, yeah. All all these politicians are globalist.
• 35:57
  It's like, oh, yeah. Here in America too, I mean, the vast majority are controlled. You know, they're whether they they got caught, you know, caught with kids on Epstein Island or took bribes. It doesn't matter what it is. They're controlled.
• 36:08
  And, really, the only thing that that obviously, that there's some semblance of hope with Trump coming in. Hopefully, he's he's acting in the in the the benefit of the American people and not being kinda slowly controlled by the the technocrats or, you know, Israel or whatever, any other forces that are kinda influencing his decisions. But it it's like if he comes in and just gives us another four years and maybe he changes a few things, it it's not gonna fix anything. It's it's like, you know, these governments around the world, it it's they're their cancer. They it's like that they're they've got Yeah.
• 36:39
  You know, stage four bone cancer. You cannot do anything about them. They have to be rebuilt. You have to let these systems collapse and rebuild. But we'll see what you what you think.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Well well well well, no. You're you're right. You're right, Seth. I mean, I'll give you and but I think the dam will break. And I think it I think what Martin said is probably about right.
• 36:59
  I I'd give it about five certainly, max ten years. I'll I'll give you an example. I was in Austria recently and, pretty interesting, country Austria, you know, and they had elections last September. They had elections. September.
• 37:16
  They're still trying to get their government formed. Why is that? Why why can Austria not have a government? Well, I'll tell you why. Because the party that got the biggest share of the vote was essentially a right wing party, anti immigrant, all of that kind of stuff.
• 37:30
  And the other parties have got the other 60% of the vote, but collectively won't do a deal with them. So they can't form a government. This classic European politics. They can get away with that only so long. And to your point, what happens, though, when that party is now getting 51?
• 37:53
  Wouldn't take that much to get to that. They've already said in about 40, they're over 40%. And so I think that ultimately, the globalism playbook is going to be burnt. It's going to be burnt because they've extended so far, they're holding back essentially the voice of the people, Vox Populi, they're holding us back. And I think they want to get to 02/1930 and have us all crushed.
• 38:22
  I think very shortly thereafter, they'll be all crushed. I would certainly hope so. But it's going to take that sort of thing. We're going to have to flip it, Seth. It's not going to be incremental.
• 38:35
  Flip the whole thing, and we'll see what happens. I mean, you've got countries like the AFD in Germany, I'm sure you're familiar with them. And they're going the right direction. Similarly, over in France as well. All around Europe, it's an awakening, but it's slow.
• 38:52
  It's slow. But give five years. It'll not be slow in five years. And so, you know, yeah, that's why I'm hopeful. I think the system will have to be burnt down.
• 39:05
  I mean, actually, just on that, we started talking about the rape gangs in The UK and how it's all the way down. Yeah. So, you know, everything needs looked at, Seth. The judiciary, the political establishment, the media establishment, some of the business aspects of things. So much is gonna have to be rebuilt.
• 39:23
  We have to rebuild our civilization, but we're the best people to do it.
• 39:29
  Seth Holehouse: I agree. Yeah. I I agree. Well and it's it's interesting looking at what's happening there versus what's happening here in America, and this there's this you know, Trump has talked about the golden age, right, coming back again. And, you know, there's there's some semblance of of hope because if you look to the future, you know, most of us you know, okay.
• 39:46
  What's America like in ten or twenty years? It's like, kinda what what is it like? Is it like Mad Max, or is it like Blade Runner, or or is it Hunger Games, and we're all in districts? And it's it's hard to imagine, but I think that that we need to start collectively imagining a vision of the future that's worth fighting for, that's worth protecting, you know, so that, you know, my children I know you're you're a grandfather, and you've got your grandkids, and, you know, you're obviously you you care about the future for them, you know, because they don't have the island that you had to grow up in. So there but I do believe, that there is a there is this massive movement.
• 40:23
  There is the great awakening, right, of people seeing through. I just hope that people will be able to see through the traps within the great awakening and the people are coming into control that the the narrative of waking up. Right? Of, oh, okay. Well, you're gonna start waking up to things and make sure that you're seeing only this part of it.
• 40:42
  Look here, not there. Right? Oh, yeah.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. See, see, see, that's a good point. I mean, for example, at the moment, again, as we speak today, in The UK, we have this whole debate over these grooming gangs, rape gangs, criminal gangs, and we have the two main political parties, the uni party in The UK and the blue end of it, the Conservatives, for example, are now saying, Oh yes, Labour, you're horrible. What did you do during all those years?
• 41:09
  But what did the Conservatives do during the same years? Nothing. They're all as bad. That's why it's fundamental political change as well that we need in The UK fundamentally a whole new political perspective. And you see, Seth, it comes back to a fundamental thing called being able to speak freely and articulate ideas.
• 41:31
  If you can't do that, you're in trouble. Do think, to be honest, I mean, I find it myself on social media, because of Musk, I'm able to speak the exact things that I feel, and others as well take courage from that. And we see even Donald Trump saying things and we go, well, if he's saying that, we can say that. And it's liberating. So you know, it's funny, it's like you want to be politically liberated, but you want your language to be liberated, so you can speak truth, but without gilding it.
• 42:05
  As you say, also being able to call out the people, the Judasus, who sat around and did nothing as our societies were almost lost. And we don't want, you know, I'm not interested in buying into them. Were all proven to be false prophets.
• 42:20
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. So do you have do you have hope? Do you have hope for the future of Ireland and and the future of of The UK and
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I do. I I I honestly do. I mean, you know, I I believe ultimately in the biblical truth that, you know, right will prevail, good will defeat evil. I believe those things just fundamental truths.
• 42:42
  I also believe, again, that sort of, you know, faith perspective, that it's in God's will exactly how things work out. If we turn towards God and put our faith in God, I believe then that we have every opportunity of being successful. And I do think it's funny, you know, history pivots some small things, but the reelection of Donald Trump might be a big thing in ways that even you and I don't quite understand yet, because who knows the political tsunami that he's gonna trigger in two weeks. Well, he's already started to trigger it, actually. But give it a couple of weeks.
• 43:23
  Give it a couple of months, and and who knows where we're gonna be? I I could see this British government fall. I mean, Trudeau's jumped on his sword before Trump even got near the White House entertainingly. I could see the British which only got elected last summer, Seth, I could see it not lasting the year. So the pace of change is good.
• 43:44
  Certainly, as we start 2025, I feel optimistic. I hope I feel even more optimistic by the end of it. But I suspect I will do because we've gone through a lot of darkness, let's be honest, huge darkness. But at the end of, you know, every tunnel, there is light, and hopefully, it's not it's not another train coming.
• 44:06
  Seth Holehouse: I I certainly agree. Well, I I I think it's a it's a nice sentiment to end on with a positivity. I wanna pull up, one more time before we sign off your Twitter profile here. I'll just encourage folks to give you a follow. It's at d v a t w.
• 44:22
  So David you know, I search for David Vance. Yep. And then also your website, davidvance.net. So you've got a podcast. You you're, you know, a prolific offender on Twitter, which you should have a badge for that.
• 44:36
  So, you know, I I highly recommend people, you know, check you. I'm sure that even within within Ireland that you're probably a little bit of a mini celebrity there because it's not a huge amount of people, and but you're one of the people that are out there and and being bold and speaking. So I'm sure that to a lot of the Irish, you know, MAGA, make Ireland great again movement, they're they're, like, they're cheering you on.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Well well well, you know, Seth, I mean, to summarize it for me, I've always just felt that all I ever do is say speak truth as I see it and I and, you know, authentically. And and it it always amazed me that people thought that was controversial. I think it's more controversial people who shy away from the truth. But I keep on plugging. I've been doing this a long time, and as I said, I am positive about 2025.
• 45:23
  And, yeah, we gotta keep going. I look forward to talking to you later in the year. We can catch up and either commiserate or we can celebrate together, but whichever which way, I look forward
• 45:33
  Seth Holehouse: to it. That sounds great. Well, thank you so much for your time. I know that you've got some grandfather duties ahead of you now, some babysitting of some little ones.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't
• 45:41
  Seth Holehouse: wanna get in in in the way of that, but thank you again for your time, and it's always a pleasure speaking with you.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Thanks very much, Seth. My pleasure as well.
• 45:49
  Seth Holehouse: Absolutely. Take care, and God bless.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Okay. Bye
• 45:52
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