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Corey Miller: Confronting The University-Driven Cultural Marxist Revolution · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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  defending biblical Christianity.
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  No topic, off limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
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  Hey friends, thank you so much for tuning in and as always, praise God for you guys
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  sharing the podcast and getting us out there.
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  It's been growing and that's out of my control, but I'm just so thankful so we appreciate
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  you very much.
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  Got another great guest today.
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  Man I talked to several years ago in another format, but it's so good to have them on World
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  View Matters.
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  But before I bring in Corey Miller, I want to mention a brand new book coming out that you
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  can pre-order, another very important book.
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  He says, as goes the university so goes the world.
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  The book is called the Progressive Miss Education of America.
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  I know we had Sam Sorbo and Kevin Sorbo in studio a few weeks ago.
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  The miss education was in the title of that podcast.
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  So this is a very important topic, especially for us here at Freedom Project.
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  But Corey Miller, if you're not familiar with his ministry, he grew up in Utah as a seventh
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  generation Mormon.
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  He came to Christ, later became a pastor, philosophy professor, campus minister, and
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  now serves as president and CEO of Rossio Christie.
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  The website is rossiochristy.org.
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  He's authored or edited five books, holds three masters degrees along with a PhD.
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  He got in Scotland and his thought is centered on the intersection of faith, reason, and
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  culture.
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  Stuff we love to talk about here on World View Matters.
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  So Corey Miller, good to see you again, brother, thanks for your time.
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  David, it is so great to be here with you.
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  Thank you for inviting me on.
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  Yeah, well, and thanks for putting out this book.
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  As I mentioned, it's right up our alley.
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  And I want to talk about your background and what you've been doing through the years
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  with Rossio Christie.
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  Before we dive into the book, I've got a lot of questions about the book, but I just
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  do want to read the description.
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  It says, the Progressive Miss Education of America is an eye-opening look at how our
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  universities have polluted the cultural landscape we live in today, and how Christians
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  can respond strategically.
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  And you bring a lot of insights and ideas that people can take action on.
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  So I'm thankful for that.
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  And then there are bullet points.
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  But before we dive into that, people, you can go to Amazon.com, look up Progressive Miss
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  Education of America.
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  And did I mention the, no, I didn't, the subtitle, confronting the Cultural Revolution
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  from the classroom to your community.
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  I love that.
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  So brother, great book coming out that people can pre-order.
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  So now let's talk about Rossio Christie, because this is a lot of people are probably
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  newer to when I was doing radio years ago and heard you when I interviewed you.
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  So tell us about Rossio Christie and then how for, you know what, wait, let's back up
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  a little bit.
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  I just recently had a former Jehovah's Witness on.
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  I want to know, you were, you were a Mormon or did you grow up with your family being
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  Mormon?
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  Yeah, I was a seventh generation Mormon.
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  Okay.
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  So how did you get out of Mormonism?
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  Let's go back.
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  Right.
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  Some of my family who have done genealogical work for me say that I come from healthy stock
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  and what they mean by that is that one of my ancestors was a bodyguard of Joseph Smith
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  and the very first split and at the highest level of any split in Mormonism out of 400 splinter
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  groups was engaged with my family.
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  So he had five wives, 36 children of which I'm a descendant.
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  But when I was in high school, I had a friend in California that invited me to come for
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  the entire summer.
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  I could go to the beach for the whole summer.
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  I thought it would be great, but his dad conditioned it on one thing and that is I had
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  to go to this non-denominational Christian camp.
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  I went there, the speaker talked about hell.
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  I tell people it scared the hell out of me and have an intimate, very life-changing.
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  But it was that experienced, David, that made me start thinking about the foundations
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  of truth.
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  I didn't care about truth before.
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  I had a living prophet.
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  Let them do the work on that.
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  And now I'm challenged with, how do I know the Bible is true?
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  I've been told it was false my whole life, but how do I know it's reliable historically?
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  It's true.
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  I don't know, God didn't exist, and I'm so, you know, which God then?
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  And so that sent me on a three-decade trajectory of where I'm at now in philosophy and comparative
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  religions.
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  Wow.
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  So what was the time frame of that process from when you went to that camp or when you
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  went to a Christian church and then that, because it takes apologetics, it takes a lot
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  of investigation into how that you can be comfortable with leaving Mormonism, believing
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  that the Bible is true.
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  What was that time frame in that process like?
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  Well, my junior year of high school, I somehow, I think, I convinced my mother that I was
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  going to live with this family in California.
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  So I did.
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  I got discipled that year.
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  I'm still friends with the youth pastor and the senior pastor of that church who was
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  my age.
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  And we just hit it off and I resonated with this new Jesus life, but I came back my senior
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  year of high school at the graduating Utah and that's when my extended family and my friends
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  and my culture started putting the pressure on and it really pushed me into skepticism
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  for a short period of time until I was able to come across this thing called apologetics
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  reasons for the faith.
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  One thing led to another, God gave me a desire for evangelism and a mind for strategy.
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  One off to Bible college and then seminary and then another seminary and then switched
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  to philosophy from biblical studies and eventually went on for a PhD, not once, but twice because
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  from hostile activity at the university where I was at, I had to terminate with a five-year
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  master's degree there.
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  So I've had my fair experiences at the university now and taught at Indiana University for a dozen
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  years that gone, went through the gauntlet of all the legal proceedings both personally and
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  in my organization having four federal victories, five appellate court victories, two scotas
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  assists and we gave Biden a going away present his last month in office with the Department
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  of Education.
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  So I'll work out there.
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  So let's talk about Russia, Christie now.
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  Then did you start with Russia, Christie and you've been, I think it's many years now,
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  right?
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  Yeah, it's 14 years old as a 501 C3, I've been here for 10 of those last years and we
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  have a high school division, a international division, a professor's division where now
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  we're funding PhD students getting into top 100 schools in the nation to launch Christian
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  PhD student only ministries, wife the top 100 because they will get first round draft
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  choice on the job market, get back in and not just integrate faith and reason, but infiltrate
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  back into academia and then we have our bread and butter which is the core university students
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  that we go after in addition to an RC press now where we give printed and digital materials
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  for churches and individuals and that we use on campus.
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  Wow.
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  Praise God.
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  Again, rachiochristi.org cultivating thoughtful Christianity on campus.
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  I was watching a program last night and the night before where Charlie Kirk was doing
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  an interview and the work that he has been doing, getting out there on college campuses
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  in a hostile environment across the country.
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  What did he say?
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  It was some just astronomical number of campuses that he goes to every year.
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  I don't want to misquote him, but it was just higher than you would imagine because for
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  someone as busy as Charlie Kirk with Turning Point USA, but does that ever intersect with
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  what you're doing?
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  I mean, he's not directly apologetics driven because he talks about anything, everything.
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  Can you share a little bit about that and other speakers that come on and try to do that
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  kind of work?
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  Yeah.
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  I was just, I'm next to Purdue University's campus in West Lafayette, Indiana and he was
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  at Purdue about two months ago.
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  So I went to that rally and engaged a lot of the fun people in the audience as well.
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  And then Lucas Miles is his division director head of TPUSA Faith and Lucas has endorsed
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  my forthcoming book as well.
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  Yeah, we do have some engagement with them and you're right, it's not primarily apologetics.
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  In fact, it's more conservatism, but it's now engaged with the faith a bit more.
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  So what separates us from the standard apologetics ministry, David, is that we are on the campus
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  and what separates us from the standard campus groups and ministries is that we do primarily
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  apologetics evangelism.
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  So trying to overcome obstacles for people to lead them to faith in Christ and then see
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  them go out and become world changers.
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  One of our students from UC Berkeley went on to law school and just last week she wrote
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  the Amicus brief that was the key one I think that was cited in the recent Supreme Court
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  case through Tennessee that upheld their right to ban puberty blockers and gender hormone therapy.
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  So we get some of our in officers that go on to clerk under Brett Kavanaugh to become
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  philosophy professors to start study centers, doctors, lawyers.
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  We're engaged in thoughtful Christianity.
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  We want the head, the hand in the heart, but at the university we emphasize the head
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  of Christ.
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  Awesome.
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  So again, love the title of the upcoming book, The Progressive Miseducation of America.
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  Great cover, too, by the way, with the graduation cap in the middle and that funky maze there.
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  Corey, do you see a shift at all?
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  We mentioned the hostile environment.
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  If you are a Christian or conservative or maybe even Republican, when you go to some
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  of these universities, do you have you noticed any shift to more, maybe more openness because
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  it used to be there was so much intolerance of the biblical worldview and even a willingness
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  to talk about these things, whether it be Christianity, the faith, what you present, apologetics,
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  defending the faith, what have you noticed over the last maybe couple of years?
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  Is anything changed?
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  I mean, I have taught in the classroom and had a former pastor who turned gay, charged
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  me with creating a suicidal environment.
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  I had to get legal representation for that.
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  I had two of my atheist students defend me along with the lies defending freedom.
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  I have been disinvited or canceled from numerous universities being called logical fascist
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  and things like that.
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  What you're seeing right now in culture because we've had an election spin, you know,
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  MAGA in the morning after you're starting to see big things happen, you know, DEI heads
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  rolling University of Pennsylvania just last week is now saying, we're sorry, we're
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  sorry.
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  We're going to take away the medal from Leah Thomas and give it just to girls and girl
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  sports.
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  Today, this Supreme Court announced they're taking up that case in this next year.
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  That happens with the changing of the guard in politics and I'm convinced that many of
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  our legal wins have happened because Trump changed the judiciary as well.
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  But what you're seeing in the universities right now, no, no, no, no, no.
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  That's putting lipstick on a pig.
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  These guys have not had a come to Jesus moment.
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  The recent statistics out of Yale, for example, and their social sciences and humanities,
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  98%, 97% of their campaign contributions from faculty went to Democrats this last year.
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  And their ratio of liberal to conservative professor is 87 to 1.
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  Harvard, in the recent election, it was 96% of the campaign contributions across the
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  nation.
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  The left to right professor ratio is 12 to 1 now for those getting ready to retire.
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  It's 23 to 1 in the New England area, 27, sorry, among those who are just getting 10
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  or 40 and under 27 to 1 in the New England area.
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  And then in religious studies, it's 70 to 1.
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  So these administrators are, and faculty, they're not having come to Jesus moments just
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  because Trump is requiring them to do new things.
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  I know what's going on in there.
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  I see what's happening in universities.
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  I have friends that are faculty.
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  Just in the 90s, it was 2.3 to 1.
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  So radical things have happened and a new secondary revolution has taken place in the universities.
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  And these guys have been at this methodologically patient and very tactful for decades.
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  They're not going anywhere soon.
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  So we're putting chlorine downstream and it's helpful in politics.
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  But politics is downstream from culture, culture from education, and the apex of education
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  is the university.
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  If you want to change the culture, change the university.
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  The progressive miseducation of America, you say decades, I say half a century.
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  And even before that, if you look at John Dewey and how the education machine got rolling,
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  and there's so many other players we could mention, we've got to take a brief pause.
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  Again, friends, you can pre-order the book on Amazon, we're with Corey Miller of Rossio
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  Christie.
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  Some other things I was reading about, you say, losing the American universities to post-Christian
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  secularism is one of the greatest debacles and tragedies of world history.
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  That sounds like a pretty grandiose statement, but I absolutely agree.
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  Do you want to elaborate on that a little bit more, Corey?
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  Now, we launched the universities.
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  I give the whole history of the universities in the book, as well as showing how we lost
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  America, but we point to the universities, beginning with Harvard, and for 300 years,
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  that Otto was truth for Christ in the church, but 1880 to 1930, we had no graduate programs
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  in the US.
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  We sent all of our people mostly over to Germany, and they came back with the higher criticism
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  and various viewpoints, came back, and that was the 50-year battle from 1880 to 1930.
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  Dick Naturalism was the first revolution that happened in the universities.
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  They took over, we got kicked out, started our new institutes at that point, and so it's
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  been going on for some time, but in the 1930s, again, over in Germany, something strange
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  was happening, the Frankfurt School of Critical Theory, Critical Race Theory, Critical Gender
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  Theory, Critical Queer Theory, Critical Pedagogy, et cetera, et cetera, down in the south
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  in Italy, Grampsi and Antonio Grampsi, who is the most influential Italian cultural
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  Marxist, and his views, he never got out of prison, but they got mediated to us right
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  here in my home state of Indiana by a Marxist professor at Notre Dame, Joseph Buttigieg,
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  the father of Mayor Pete, and then the founding of postmodernism, which came about 15 years
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  later, Foucault, Derrida, Leotard, and others, they all, if they were postmodernist and
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  they're relativist, you would think that they would span politics from left to right,
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  but they're all hard left to the first and second generation, and that is because they
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  were all members of the French Communist Party.
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  All the leaders of those three states that access power, you might say, have come over to
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  America over the last century in our top universities, and now we're looking at potentially the
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  most successful Marxist revolution in history, again, politically, we've got a new regime
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  that is helping us for American jurisprudence and free thinking in the First Amendment, but
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  that only lasts four years, who knows what's coming four years from now.
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  We need to infiltrate the cause of all of this, and that is the universities.
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  Yes, and the churches have to be engaged too, that's a side issue, but that's such a major
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  problem with the lack of biblical worldview and the declining, just biblical illiteracies
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  off the charts today in the church.
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  But anyway, Corey, you said something you mentioned Harvard, I'm glad you did, I always
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  like to harp on that because Veritas Christo Edeclizier, truth for Christ in the church,
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  became simply in their badge, Harvard's badge like the logo shield, it's just as Veritas
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  now.
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  So my question is always, okay, you remove Christ, and you remove the church, and whose
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  Veritas have the university's been pushing, and John Harvard, Pastor John Harvard would
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  be flipping in his grave if that were even possible, that bones don't flip.
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  But there's an expression, if he knew what happened to his university where you can register
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  as one of, I don't know, dozens of genders or whatever expressions or pronouns at Harvard
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  and just the craziness now, the wokeness, it's just insane, isn't it?
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  Yeah, and that's part of the second revolution that has taken place.
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  From the scientific, now it's postmodern cultural Marxism, and that's where everything from
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  race, class, sex, gender, ethnicity, and so forth come from.
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  Truth now, no longer means what the Puritans meant when they founded Harvard, capital T truth,
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  truth is reducible to power, and everything's about power dynamics, privilege and power.
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  And so this is what we're seeing in this new revolution, poor Richard Dawkins and his
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  ilk of the new atheism, he was sort of the apex of a century long reign of science, and
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  he was part of the reign of terror. He was like, you know, the French revolutionary that started
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  the guillotine, and then he got guillotineed himself. And now he wants to call himself a cultural
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  Christian and be friends with us again because something worse is in the room. Robespierre, that was
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  the name. Man, this sounds like an amazing book, and I think I'd like to have you come back on
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  in a couple of months, Corey, because there's so much more to talk about. We're going to,
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  I'm not going to get through 15 to 20% of the questions I had for you, but one of them,
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  let's go back to DEI, diversity, equity, and inclusion, concepts that sound very good on
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  the surface. Now, the Trump executive order is wonderful, but as you said, that doesn't take
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  them out at the roots, whether that be corporations or colleges at the University of Level Talktus,
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  a little bit more about DEI, how these weaken a society.
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  Yeah, again, in Harvard, they have almost 100 commissar officers, political officers,
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  their DEI officers. These are full-time positions. Many of them, six figures. They're not going
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  anywhere. They're doing other things. They're restructuring the names or whatever, but I don't call it
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  DEI in the book. I call it D-I-E for rhetorical purposes, number one, but as a trained philosopher
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  and theologian, I think about things from a philosophical viewpoint, because that's what this is.
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  Reality is at bottom, and then how I know about reality, and how I should then live based on what
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  I know about reality. That's philosophy, and it's three main branches. What does the D stand for? What
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  is the I stand for? And what is the East stand for? Respectively, the D for diversity means to go
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  out and identify the various power dynamic groups, identity politics, and in race, class, sex,
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  gender, ethnicity, as to whether they have or have not an oppressor or oppressed, victimizer or
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  a victim. And then the I inclusion, you include only those groups that are woke whose eyes have been
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  opened, because only they have the lived experience to know their oppression. And so they have moral
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  authority then to get platformed, to get all the new jobs at the top departments, and corporate
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  leads, and so forth. And anyone who's part of the oppressor class, like say a white Christian
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  male, heteronormative, cisgender, viable leading capitalist, you just listen and learn and lament.
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  And then the ethics of it, all the E, it's not equality, it's equity, equity used to be a
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  financial term. Now it's a moral term, wherever inequality exists, there exists injustice. And so
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  we need equity to balance this power dynamic through coercion. If the problem is social oppression
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  at the bottom of human relations, known only by the woke whose eyes have been opened, then the
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  solution is social liberation, i.e. social justice. That's what social justice is. That's what
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  they're doing from research justice to reproductive justice, to climate justice, to any kind of
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  justice you can possibly imagine. Wow. This is one of those podcasts, friends, I wish we had more time,
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  but that's why I really need to bring you back, Corey, if you're available. There's, I got it
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  down to there. There's so many other questions, but I want to just narrow it down to one more,
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  we're down to four minutes already. Let's go back to 1840, because in the book, this is a quote from
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  the book, up until 1840, all university and college presidents in the US were members of the clergy.
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  It seems maybe surprising, but I guess if you go back that far, so what, I mean, we've only got a
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  few minutes left bullet point, condensed that for us, what happened?
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  Well, in a Mark Noel wrote a book about 30 years ago this year called the Scandal of the Evangelical
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  Mind. And the scandal is that there isn't much of an evangelical mind. That's not the case for the
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  history of Christianity in the last 2000 years. We started all the universities. We begin with a
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  worldview that starts with mind. Jesus was called the Logos in John 11, the logic. We throughout
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  the life of the mind, we abdicated our own responsibility and high culture and secularists came in
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  through two different ideological revolutions. And now what I'm calling for is a third ideological
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  revolution. And that is us. So it's a clarion call at the end of the book, the last third of the
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  book, really, to pastors, to parents, to philanthropists, to paratroopers, to political allies,
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  and prayers. All hands on deck. It's the university stupid. Even if you are not called to the university,
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  everybody needs to prepare for the ideological poison coming downstream from the universities
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  down into our homes, our churches, campus ministries, and into our closet. You can't even go into
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  your closet to hide anymore. Wow. We do have time for one more question. In the book, you say that
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  the menace of mindless Christianity has to go. What do you mean by that?
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  This is what did it. You know, Bertrand Russell was famously quoted as saying,
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  most Christians would rather die than think, in fact, they do. And so here we are on a good day.
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  We're looked at as pedophile priests. On a bad day, you know, that's the bad day. The good days
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  were brainless believers, right? We started the universities. We started the hospitals. We started
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  representative government. Christianity is good for the world. This menace of mindless Christianity
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  has killed us. Jesus commanded us to love God with our mind. And in 1 Peter 315, we're commanded
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  not suggested to give the reason for the hope that lies within us and do it with gentleness and
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  respect. Head, hands, and heart Christians. Amen, brother. Boy, there's so much more, but friends,
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  the progressive miseducation of America. I'm sure there's so much information in here
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  that even a lot of us who think we're informed need to catch up on, need to understand what's
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  happening. And Cory, thank you for putting out this book. If you want to change the world, change
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  the university, Christians have a lot of work to do. Regardless of who's in office, you made that
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  point. Thank you. We have four years. It's not a reprieve. We better work harder than we ever have.
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  Who knows what could happen after the midterms? Who knows what could happen in 2028? But
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  Cory Miller, russiaakristy.org, a book is on Amazon. I will reconnect with you and see if we can
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  get you on again in a couple of months. Talk more about this because there's so much more in the book.
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  I know and there's so many more questions I have. So brother, thank you for your time today.
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  Good to see you again. Thanks, David. Appreciate it. Take care. Yep. You too. All right, friends. Another
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  good one, the progressive miseducation of America. Lord willing, we'll talk again with Cory in
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  the very near future. Thanks again for sharing the podcast and for praying for us. And as always,
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  God bless you and keep speaking the truth about things that matter.