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Credlin | 23 March · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krandlin live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up
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Speaker 2: tonight on Kredline. A landslide win for labor in South Australia.
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Speaker 2: No surprises there, but given the blood bath in the
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Speaker 2: Liberal vote, it's now official. The meteoric rise of one
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Speaker 2: nation's not just limited to the polls, so plenty of
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Speaker 2: analysis on that score, particularly federal implications. Out of the weekend,
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Speaker 2: Doctor Jamal Riffie, the man at the center of trying
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Speaker 2: to repatriate those Isis women, has spoken out saying plans
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Speaker 2: are still afoot to bring the terrorist sympathizers back to Australia.
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Speaker 2: Now is close mates with Tony Burke, So why does
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Speaker 2: the Minister pick up the phone in say enough, no, no.
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Speaker 2: Plus that massive study into Australian attitudes to defense, it
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Speaker 2: shows the voters are anxious that we're not prepared as
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Speaker 2: we should be. And this was long before Iran. So
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Speaker 2: if everyday Australians understand the global threats, why does now
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister and Chris Bowen under fire as fuel ships
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Speaker 2: bound for Australia are now being canceled.
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Speaker 3: When was the government advised the six shipments of vital
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Speaker 3: fuel supply bound for Australia were canceled.
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Speaker 4: And how many ships have been canceled to date.
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Speaker 2: How many service stations in Australia have run out of fuel.
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Speaker 2: We will stay with this this year because what's the
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Speaker 2: point of having an energy minister if he doesn't attend
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Speaker 2: the crisis meeting of the National Cabinet on Energy. Chris
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Speaker 2: Bowen was a conspicuous absentee from last week's meeting to
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Speaker 2: discuss Australia's worstening fuel crisis. All the premiers were there
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Speaker 2: in the room, the Prime Minister TiO, but no Australian
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Speaker 2: Energy Minister. Instead, Bowen skipped the fuel meeting and hosted
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Speaker 2: instead a meeting of Pacific leaders on climate change, wearing
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Speaker 2: his hat as President of negotiations for COP thirty one.
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Speaker 2: And this is the job he got, is a stop
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Speaker 2: for Australia not hosting this year's climate Jamboree. Now this
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Speaker 2: is a joke. He tried to hide it, but me
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Speaker 2: and Linda Somala's set the Daily Telegraph, Well we did
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Speaker 2: our homework and he's now been exposed, not even willing
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Speaker 2: to turn up and do the job we pay him
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Speaker 2: four hundred thousand dollars a year to do as Australia's
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Speaker 2: energy minister, and yet as the Iran War has exposed,
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Speaker 2: we are in trouble.
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Speaker 5: In New South Wales at the moment, it's thirty seven
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Speaker 5: out of a total of two four hundred and forty
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Speaker 5: four service stations. In Queensland, it's forty seven outlets with
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Speaker 5: no diesel, thirty two with no regular unleaded out of
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Speaker 5: just over oney eight hundred service stations. In Victoria, at
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Speaker 5: the end of last week we saw one hundred and
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Speaker 5: nine outlets with one or more grades unavailable. As how
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Speaker 5: the Victorian government collects had information, today's update is around
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Speaker 5: fifty stations out of diesel.
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Speaker 2: That's a litanyar failure from the minister for failure by
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Speaker 2: putting green wishful thinking ahead of the hard reality that
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Speaker 2: we are and will be for many years fossil fuel dependent.
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Speaker 2: Bowen could hardly have better demonstrated his warped priorities and
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Speaker 2: his utter unfitness for office. Now I know that none
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Speaker 2: of you need reminding about this, but our politicians do.
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Speaker 2: Australia runs on diesel, and if that diesel runs out,
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Speaker 2: nothing moves all right, Well, maybe a few teslas will
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Speaker 2: shuffle along for a while, But the trucks that transport
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Speaker 2: all our food and other goods, the equipment that keeps
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Speaker 2: our industry going, our minds, our farmers, our manufacturers, all
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Speaker 2: of that comes to a standstill. And as Bowen's continued
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Speaker 2: tenure as Minister shows, Labor just doesn't get this. It's
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Speaker 2: so blinded by its green ideology that I bet it
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Speaker 2: sees is fuel crisis as a bit of a blessing
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Speaker 2: in disguise. Labor hopes that the whole issue of fuel
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Speaker 2: security will force more of us into an ev and
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Speaker 2: that if people revert to working from home, it might
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Speaker 2: get its emissions down. They'll give all those government bureaucrats
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Speaker 2: who hate cars and excuse to cut speed limits again
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Speaker 2: and make life more inconvenient for people, because all of
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Speaker 2: that helps to lower emissions, and Labor's nowhere close to
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Speaker 2: meeting they're ridiculously high targets. So believe me, Labor will
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Speaker 2: use this fuel crisis. They'll exploit it not to help
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Speaker 2: the country but for their emissions advantage. This is why
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Speaker 2: they appointed a climate change bureaucrat. As the new fuels
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Speaker 2: are and under labor with their warped green priorities. This
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Speaker 2: woman's joel won't be about creating more fuel abundance. It'll
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Speaker 2: be just managing the shortages, doing more with less instead
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Speaker 2: of what she should be doing, and that's helping us
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Speaker 2: fine and develop more oil resources. 's current crisis is
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Speaker 2: the inevitable result of wishful thinking on energy. Going back
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Speaker 2: two decades, we've fooled our celves about the so called
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Speaker 2: energy transition, where hell bent on going green, but around
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Speaker 2: the world coal, oil and gas production hit new record
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Speaker 2: levels last year. We've also fooled our cells about things
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Speaker 2: like green hydrogen, which are totally uneconomic at scale, as
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Speaker 2: proved today by RIO dumping its decarbonization unit and cutting
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Speaker 2: its allocation on green hydrogen by some six billion dollars.
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Speaker 2: And it's not just energy security that this crisis has exposed,
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Speaker 2: but all the other things that fossil fuels are essentially making,
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Speaker 2: the fertilizers, the plastics, the host of industrial processes like
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Speaker 2: steel making, and now all the chickens are coming home
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Speaker 2: to roost. We are energy vulnerable, and that makes us
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Speaker 2: vulnerable in a national security sense as a result, and
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Speaker 2: that Chris Bowen is allowed to bunk off. That the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister allows his energy minister to go missing in
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Speaker 2: the midst of an energy crisis says as much about
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister as it does he's underperforming and incompetent minister.
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Speaker 2: Right now to the South Australian state election, where the
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Speaker 2: one nation fascination shouldn't hire the fact that a split
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Speaker 2: Conservative vote has just given Labor a landslide victory. Now,
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Speaker 2: Labor was always going to win, and win big with
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Speaker 2: a business friendly and charismatic leader from the Labor right.
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Speaker 2: Labour's thirty eight percent primary vote plus the Greens at
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Speaker 2: ten percent given the traditional type preference exchange between the two,
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Speaker 2: was always going to make it hard for the Liberals.
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Speaker 2: But after four years of cross factional warfare and a
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Speaker 2: revolving door leadership, on the weekend the Liberals crashed to
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Speaker 2: a nineteen percent primary vote, their worst ever result, with
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Speaker 2: One Nation close to its best ever on twenty two percent.
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Speaker 2: As often is the case on the center right, with
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Speaker 2: preferences spraying everywhere tonight, it looks as though the Liberals
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Speaker 2: have won four seats, possibly possibly eight, and thus far
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Speaker 2: we've got one nation with two seats and possibly up
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Speaker 2: to an additional three. Now, if, and it's still a
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Speaker 2: big if, one Nation ends up with more seats than
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Speaker 2: the Liberals, this would be the worst result for the
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Speaker 2: Liberals than even the woeful twenty twenty one WA state
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Speaker 2: election that left the Libs with just two Lower House
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Speaker 2: seats and the National Party the National Party as the
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Speaker 2: official opposition. So here's my message for Canberra out of
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Speaker 2: the weekend's ballot box shocker one Nation voters are not
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Speaker 2: just protesting politics as usual. They are determined to punish
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Speaker 2: the main parties, particularly and mostly the Liberals, but also
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Speaker 2: Labor as well, and the Liberals won't win them back
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Speaker 2: just by changing policies on issues like energy and immigration. Now,
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Speaker 2: sure that's necessary, but more than just better stronger policies
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Speaker 2: in critical areas like this, Just as importantly, the Liberals
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Speaker 2: need deeper and stronger convictions. Changing policy alone won't win
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Speaker 2: back those who've given up on the Liberals. They need
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Speaker 2: to show a change of heart as well, new policies
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Speaker 2: built on conviction, not just Polster calculation. And if they
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Speaker 2: can't manage that, then the Liberals could turn out to
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Speaker 2: be as doomed as the old United Australian Party was
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Speaker 2: in nineteen forty three. The Liberal Party of John Howard
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Speaker 2: and Tony Abbott could win landslides because voters knew that
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Speaker 2: they actually believed in the policies that put Australia first.
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Speaker 2: They saw in Howard and abboit men of conviction and consistency,
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Speaker 2: and whether you agree with Pauline Hansen or not, that
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Speaker 2: is what One Nation supporters see in her and Howard
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Speaker 2: an Abbot. One Nation was kept in check because there
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Speaker 2: was nowhere for them to go.
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Speaker 6: There was no.
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Speaker 2: Vacuum on the center right. Well there is one now
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Speaker 2: created by Turnbull, made worse by Morrison, and left wide
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Speaker 2: open by Dutton. And it's a niron law of politics
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Speaker 2: that if you leave a vacuum, it will be filled.
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Speaker 2: And One Nation has exploited this very effectively. Today. All
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Speaker 2: the tough talk was about the Liberals going after one Nation. Now,
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Speaker 2: if they really want to put themselves out of business,
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Speaker 2: they'll make the next few months all about differentiating themselves
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Speaker 2: from one Nation rather than next. Second being that they've
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Speaker 2: lost their way and they need forgiveness from angry voters.
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Speaker 2: Liberal supporters have not left the party for One Nation.
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Speaker 2: The Liberal Party left them. The Liberal Party left its
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Speaker 2: supporters when I thought ten years ago that they would
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Speaker 2: win by abandoning the center right for the center and
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Speaker 2: yet even after the greatest defeat in history, we've still
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Speaker 2: got this badness coming from wrong headed senior liberals in
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Speaker 2: South Australia.
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Speaker 7: When we come from the center right is when we
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Speaker 7: win government.
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Speaker 8: A more authentic, genuine version of the Liberal Party, and
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Speaker 8: that is taking a step to the center.
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Speaker 7: To the right.
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Speaker 8: And obviously people leaving our party and voting for One
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Speaker 8: Nation are sending us that message.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Senator, you were not on the center right
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Speaker 2: in South Australia. That's why you were hit as hard
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Speaker 2: as you were. And Tony Passen is right that you
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Speaker 2: must move to the center right because you've been hugging
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Speaker 2: the center and that's been the downfall in South Australia.
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Speaker 2: But that common sense from Tony Passen copped a rebuke
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Speaker 2: today from a Liberal moderate Senator Andrew McLaughlin, who told
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Speaker 2: The Australian that it is sheer foolishness to suggest we
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Speaker 2: move further to the right again, further to the right,
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Speaker 2: further to the right. Seriously, there was nothing about the
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Speaker 2: South Australian liberals that was on the right in the
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Speaker 2: first place. Let alone this talk of moving further to
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Speaker 2: the right. All I would say with the Victorian election
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Speaker 2: in November, the Liberals better wake up to one nation
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Speaker 2: and fast, or the worst government in our country Bannan
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Speaker 2: will get re elected. Parliament is sitting today in Canberra.
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Speaker 2: We will go there now for the headlines. Skynian's political
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Speaker 2: reporter Ribbon Spargo.
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Speaker 4: State premiers are refusing to rule out emergency measures, including
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Speaker 4: petrol rashing if fuel shortages persist. The federal government says
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Speaker 4: declaring a national fuel emergency would be a significant escalation.
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Speaker 7: We will of course take emergency measures if required, but
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Speaker 7: those measures themselves have an impact on the economy.
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Speaker 5: I think we're a long way from that. But of
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Speaker 5: course the Commonwealth and the States will work together for
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Speaker 5: prudent contingency planning in a very challenged international environment.
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Speaker 4: The Energy Minister says authorities would first roll out public
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Speaker 4: information campaigns and call for voluntary restraint before tougher measures
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Speaker 4: were introduced. The coalition says voters are signaling a desire
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Speaker 4: for changes. One Nation celebrates its results. In South Australia,
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Speaker 4: counting is still underway, but the party has secured representation
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Speaker 4: in both houses.
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Speaker 9: The biggest message for the federal coalition is that Australia.
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Speaker 7: Is looking for change.
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Speaker 1: They are rightly aggrieved right now.
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Speaker 4: One Nation is now shifting its attention to the upcoming
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Speaker 4: a by election. If electricity bills could rise by up
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Speaker 4: to six hundred dollars a year to help pay for
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Speaker 4: new transmission lines along Australia's East coast, that's according to
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Speaker 4: new analysis from Policy Institute Australia. Billionaires built through capacity
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Speaker 4: investment schemes get a free meal ticket off the Australian
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Speaker 4: tax payer and then touch them again at the PowerPoint.
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Speaker 2: We've got to look under the hood of this thing.
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Speaker 4: The One Nation MP says growing concern over the electricity
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Speaker 4: grid is contributing to the party's support.
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Speaker 2: All right, jonnymen now scars political contributor Chris Hielman. Chris,
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Speaker 2: we're going to talk energy, We're going to talk fuel
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Speaker 2: in the moment, but I want to get your sense
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Speaker 2: of things out of South Australia on the weekend. Of course,
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Speaker 2: we've got Pharobar election coming up at the start of May.
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Speaker 2: All these reports today that the Libs have got to
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Speaker 2: go hard on One Nation's credibility. I tell you, if
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Speaker 2: your people have left your party, and they've gone now,
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Speaker 2: and they're not just polling with one Nation, they are
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Speaker 2: voting with one nation, will you get them back with
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Speaker 2: sugar up vinegar, don't you?
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Speaker 8: Well?
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Speaker 7: Peter? The thing is the Liberal Party in South Australia
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Speaker 7: did everything in its power to make sure that it
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Speaker 7: was unelectable. It would be good if that party had
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Speaker 7: a few less people having criminal convictions and driving the
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Speaker 7: clown car that it was for the entire time that
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Speaker 7: they were in opposition. So they left people with very
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Speaker 7: little place to go. One thing that's got to happen
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Speaker 7: on the center right now is that both One Nation
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Speaker 7: and the Liberal Party and the National Party have to
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Speaker 7: come to some kind of settlement about preferences. And if
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Speaker 7: the Labor Party screams about the fact that you're doing
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Speaker 7: a deal with extremistry, the answer should be, well, you
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Speaker 7: did deals with the Greens. You wouldn't be in government
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Speaker 7: if that wasn't the case, and they are an extremist party.
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Speaker 7: So I think the one thing that they should come
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Speaker 7: out of this is that in every future election, the
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Speaker 7: Liberal Party, the National Party and One Nation Party should
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Speaker 7: be saying put labor last if you want to change government.
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Speaker 7: But frankly too, the opposition they faced in Peter malnowskis
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Speaker 7: if I was in South Australia, I'd vote for Peter Malannowskus.
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Speaker 7: I think he's an outstanding premiere and the kind of
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Speaker 7: old labor man that is so rare now across the
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Speaker 7: landscape of Australian politics.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the old labor right and you can see
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Speaker 2: in him and you can see in Chris mint that's
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Speaker 2: the old Labor Party of Hawke to some degree Keaty
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Speaker 2: and that's very, very electric in a state that has
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Speaker 2: fallen behind, and he's put the mojo back in South Australia.
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Speaker 2: You absolutely feel that when you're on the ground in Adelaide.
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Speaker 2: So the Ashtonham was up against it, but she's not
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Speaker 2: helped by all the policies that have been there from
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Speaker 2: the left wing of the Liberal Party for way too long.
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Speaker 2: Let's get into fuel. I know you've got an how
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Speaker 2: Long special on Sunday. You're going to get right into
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Speaker 2: the fuel crisis. Energy as well, but certainly on fuel.
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Speaker 2: Fuel dominated question time today. Let's have a listen.
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Speaker 3: When was the government advised the six shipments of vital
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Speaker 3: fuel supplied bound for Australia were canceled.
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Speaker 4: And how many ships have been canceled to date?
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Speaker 10: You said that shipments carrying vital fuel were canceled over a.
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Speaker 5: Period of time.
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Speaker 10: When were you notified that the first shipment was canceled?
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Speaker 5: Further, Honorable Member, to my previous answers.
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Speaker 2: Right, we couldn't get much in the way of straight
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Speaker 2: answers from Chris Bowen. I make the point at the
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Speaker 2: top of the show, Chris that he didn't even front
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Speaker 2: the National Cabinet Fuel Crisis meeting. He was an absentee.
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Speaker 2: He was running around doing his part time job for
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Speaker 2: the u N and the cop Committee. And we've now
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Speaker 2: got the circus of the International Energy Agency telling Australians
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Speaker 2: go back to your covid era work from home. And
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Speaker 2: Chris Bowen, as I said, not in the chamber, in
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Speaker 2: the chamber today, but not forthcoming with information. We've got
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Speaker 2: fuel being canceled on route to Australia. We've got all
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Speaker 2: of these petrol bowsers around the country now with nothing
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Speaker 2: coming out of it, even if you can afford to
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Speaker 2: pay for it. I mean, it's a mess.
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Speaker 7: And it's going to get worse, Peter, because what we
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Speaker 7: do know is that we are at the ass end
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Speaker 7: of a long supply chain and those ships come very slowly.
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Speaker 7: So two weeks from South Korea where the refineries are
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Speaker 7: a week or so from Singapore, they actually can turn
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Speaker 7: around on the way. So any idea that shipments that
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Speaker 7: are on their way, he might necessarily get here. Well,
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Speaker 7: if the world changes a lot and the price is
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Speaker 7: better elsewhere, you might see a lot of things change.
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Speaker 7: We know about those six ships that aren't coming, but
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Speaker 7: we also know that the damage is done in the
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Speaker 7: Gulf at the moment. So the Strait uphan Rules is closed.
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Speaker 7: If it opened tomorrow, there's a whole lot of things
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Speaker 7: that have to fall into place. There is no war
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Speaker 7: risk insurance left for any of those ships. Who would
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Speaker 7: be the captain or who would be the owner that
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Speaker 7: would go through those straits first. There's been massive damage
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Speaker 7: done to the infrastructure around the region as well, particularly
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Speaker 7: gas in Qatar. Oil and gas set the price of everything,
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Speaker 7: They are in everything, and they move everything. So the
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Speaker 7: first feeling that we're getting already will be through the
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Speaker 7: price of every every single good going up in Australia.
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Speaker 7: And then we will hit the shortages, and I think
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Speaker 7: it's almost inevitable at the moment that we will face
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Speaker 7: them the government, because we have so little supply on
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Speaker 7: the in Australia at the moment, so little in reserve,
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Speaker 7: we'll have to move rapidly when it knows that, if
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Speaker 7: it gets the message that more of those ships aren't sailing,
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Speaker 7: we need more than two vast oil tankers to arrive
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Speaker 7: in Australia every single day for our supply to be
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Speaker 7: kept up.
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Speaker 2: I saw today and I checked the diesel price, because
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Speaker 2: I have a diesel, but diesels at three dollars sixty
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Speaker 2: in some areas. It was about two dollars forty when
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Speaker 2: I last filled up, and then I fill up again
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Speaker 2: at three dollars and now I'll be looking probably four
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Speaker 2: four and a half by the time by the time
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Speaker 2: I fill my tank again, even if I can get it,
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Speaker 2: I might add. So we're going to be hit hard
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Speaker 2: as we commute. We're going to be hit hard as
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Speaker 2: we buy things from the supermarket, because it's either the
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Speaker 2: cost to get it there or the cost of production.
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Speaker 2: And now back to the PowerPoint increases. We've got this
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Speaker 2: phenomenal increase out there today six hundred billion dollars or
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Speaker 2: so in relation to the cost of the rollout. So
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Speaker 2: this is the polls and wires. Labour's never given us
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Speaker 2: an aggregated cost of what this transition to renewables will
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Speaker 2: be Frustralia. We're told in just two years when Labor
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Speaker 2: lasted its estimates of this component of our electricity system,
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Speaker 2: the costs have increased by one hundred percent and it
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Speaker 2: all gets passed on to consumers, doesn't it.
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Speaker 7: Chris, Yeah, Well, you've got to look at the way
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Speaker 7: that your bill is made up. And I note again
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Speaker 7: last week Chris Bowen is out banking a decrease in
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Speaker 7: the wholesale price, which he expects will be delivered when
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Speaker 7: those those price stting mechanisms come into place in the
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Speaker 7: middle of the year. Well, your wholesale part of your bill,
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Speaker 7: because we had good weather this year.
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Speaker 1: Now that's literally.
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Speaker 7: Based on whether or not the sun is shining, the
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Speaker 7: wind is blowing. We've got to get through winter yet.
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Speaker 7: So there's a big component of your bill which is
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Speaker 7: transmission lines, and those transmission costs have yet to flow
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Speaker 7: all the way through, and when they do, that is
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Speaker 7: added to your bill forever. Those entities get a regulated
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Speaker 7: rate of return. So the idea that electricity prices are
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Speaker 7: about to go down. This is a minister who literally
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Speaker 7: never learns. Now here's the thing. We are about to
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Speaker 7: be mugged by reality. We are getting a lesson in
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Speaker 7: how the world actually works at the moment. And you
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Speaker 7: know what Australia could do. We have masses of gas.
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Speaker 7: We could get more of it. We probably have more
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Speaker 7: oil reserves, we could get more of it. We have coal,
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Speaker 7: we could export more of that. Australia could be an
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Speaker 7: energy superpower that helps the world get through this crisis
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Speaker 7: on the other side. Or we'll learn the long wrong
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Speaker 7: lesson and we'll listen to the idiots who keep talking
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Speaker 7: about the fact that the people who live in cities
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Speaker 7: and drive electric vehicles are going to have better time.
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Speaker 7: Will they'll be driving their vehicles to empty shopping centers
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Speaker 7: because this country, as you said, runs on diesel, so
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Speaker 7: you can't get the diesel into the truck. The goods
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Speaker 7: don't arrive on the shells. We could be facing a
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Speaker 7: very very serious few months or even a year or
21:06
Speaker 7: so ahead.
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Speaker 2: Your intelligence is shining through here, Chris. I we'll all
21:12
Speaker 2: see it on evidence. I think on Sunday night when
21:14
Speaker 2: you bring us this special on Australia's fuel crisis seven
21:18
Speaker 2: point thirty Sunday Night here on Sky News, do not
21:21
Speaker 2: miss Chris Yellman and his analysis. All right, let's go
21:24
Speaker 2: to another issue on the national security front, specifically our borders.
21:29
Speaker 2: Over the weekend, the Western Sydney doctor Jamal Riffi, who's
21:32
Speaker 2: been pushing to repatriate those Islamic state sympathizers, well, he
21:37
Speaker 2: spoke to the Daily Telegraph about ongoing efforts to bring
21:40
Speaker 2: the women and children back to Australia. He spoke to
21:43
Speaker 2: the paper from Lebanon and what sounded like a tone
21:48
Speaker 2: deaf approach to the community concern. He said, and I quote,
21:52
Speaker 2: they are in a waiting game. Riffi went on to say,
21:56
Speaker 2: we've got a Plan A, which we think has about
21:58
Speaker 2: ninety percent chance of sixteen. But we also have a
22:01
Speaker 2: Plan B and a C, which are more risky and difficult.
22:05
Speaker 2: I might add here too, I checked the DEFAT system
22:08
Speaker 2: this afternoon and Lebanon is a do not travel destination.
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Speaker 2: This is the maid of the Home Affairs Minister should
22:15
Speaker 2: have been out to discuss the issue. Shadow Home Affairs Minister,
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Speaker 2: Senator Jonathan Dunney and Senator welcome. How can we have
22:22
Speaker 2: a private citizen effectively organizing repatriation for these women The
22:27
Speaker 2: government say we don't want to back here in Australia,
22:29
Speaker 2: but doing absolutely nothing to stop this. This bloke is
22:34
Speaker 2: close to Tony Burke, So why doesn't the Home Affairs
22:38
Speaker 2: Minister just pick up the phone and say enough?
22:43
Speaker 11: Well, it doesn't get much closer than this, does it, Peter.
22:46
Speaker 11: I mean he ran Tony Burke's re election campaign, had
22:49
Speaker 11: his initials spray painted into the back of his hair.
22:54
Speaker 11: And of course the government, as you've outlined, turns a
22:57
Speaker 11: blind eye to a private citizen now effectively running our borders.
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Speaker 9: It is up to the government who.
23:03
Speaker 11: Comes into our country and the circumstances under which they arrive.
23:08
Speaker 11: And if a minister has said, as Tony Burke has
23:11
Speaker 11: said on TV, we don't want them back, then do
23:15
Speaker 11: something about it. Don't just hand out the passports. And
23:18
Speaker 11: you've well canvassed this power that the government have to
23:21
Speaker 11: not hand over a passport to someone who is deemed
23:24
Speaker 11: to be a national security risk. And I would argue
23:26
Speaker 11: these people are we don't know who they are, we
23:29
Speaker 11: don't know whether the children in this cohort have been radicalized.
23:32
Speaker 11: So if they're serious about national security, they'll stop Jomal
23:37
Speaker 11: Riffi from his three plans with ninety percent chance of success,
23:41
Speaker 11: and they'll do the right thing by Australians and prevent
23:43
Speaker 11: them from coming back into the country.
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Speaker 2: We also concerned me John O and the Telegraph were
23:48
Speaker 2: the reports that there are ISIS linked telegram accounts. So
23:52
Speaker 2: for people at home, these are like social media accounts,
23:55
Speaker 2: but they're on the dark web, and these have been
23:58
Speaker 2: set up to solicit money from Australians for the women
24:01
Speaker 2: and kids of this camp in Syria, but those funds
24:04
Speaker 2: instead are being funneled back to Islamic State. Now why
24:09
Speaker 2: it even donate to these women is beyond me, but
24:12
Speaker 2: it is really concerning if we have Australians funding terrorism.
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Speaker 11: Well, these women chose to go from Australia, a safe, democratic,
24:26
Speaker 11: freedom loving country, to join their ISIS fighter husband. So
24:31
Speaker 11: anyone who's providing money to this group of individuals shouldn't
24:35
Speaker 11: be surprised that there's a chance their money goes to
24:39
Speaker 11: Islamic State. I mean, they're associated, they are supporters of
24:44
Speaker 11: They chose to go to this terrible part of the
24:46
Speaker 11: world ripped apart by this conflict to support this organization.
24:52
Speaker 11: But it does go to show that this group, that
24:54
Speaker 11: organization Islamic State of course, aren't big fans of the
24:58
Speaker 11: truth and will deceive people. And so this is why
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Speaker 11: I think there is increased concern around this cohort of individuals.
25:04
Speaker 11: I know it's terrible with the children caught up in this,
25:07
Speaker 11: but again these kids may well be radicalized. But the
25:11
Speaker 11: fact that there are measures in place to funnel money
25:14
Speaker 11: to a listed terror organization and people have been unwitting
25:17
Speaker 11: in their support of this group is very, very concerning
25:20
Speaker 11: and another reason the government should take a hard line
25:23
Speaker 11: approach to this and say no more and close the door.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the government, because they've had
25:28
Speaker 2: about a week to remediate the deficiencies in that judgment
25:32
Speaker 2: out of.
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Speaker 7: The High Court.
25:33
Speaker 2: This is in relation to those foreign criminals who we
25:36
Speaker 2: don't win in Australia, who we have rejected to remain
25:40
Speaker 2: in Australia, but who refuse to leave them certainly can't
25:43
Speaker 2: lock them up. The government, I would hope is knocking
25:48
Speaker 2: on your door.
25:49
Speaker 12: John.
25:49
Speaker 2: I was saying, we've got to remove legislation and do
25:52
Speaker 2: it quickly, and we need the Coalition to support the legislation.
25:55
Speaker 2: What's the latest on that score?
25:59
Speaker 11: Think think I'd have had a call within twenty minutes
26:02
Speaker 11: of the High Court handing down its judgment. But I
26:04
Speaker 11: can tell you and your viewers now, I have had
26:07
Speaker 11: no call. I've had no text. There's been no approach
26:11
Speaker 11: to us from government, and I would have thought that
26:14
Speaker 11: the government would be drafting up a response to a
26:17
Speaker 11: potential outcome from the High Court's findings. None of that
26:22
Speaker 11: has happened. And let's not forget Operation Ages, the project
26:27
Speaker 11: put in place to manage this cohort of criminals, costing
26:31
Speaker 11: taxpayers two hundred and fifty million dollars, I might add,
26:35
Speaker 11: has ground.
26:35
Speaker 6: To a halt.
26:36
Speaker 11: I'm even told that there are are people being taken
26:39
Speaker 11: out of that project and put elsewhere within Home Affairs
26:42
Speaker 11: and other agencies. So it looks like the government have
26:44
Speaker 11: given up.
26:45
Speaker 6: So it's a week.
26:46
Speaker 11: And indeed, these people who had monitoring bracelets on serious
26:52
Speaker 11: criminals are wandering around our community with no control or
26:56
Speaker 11: management of what they're doing. Where they are. I don't
26:58
Speaker 11: know where they're at. I don't know I've Toney Burt
27:00
Speaker 11: knows where they're at. But this is again a real
27:02
Speaker 11: concern for community safety and again paints this picture that
27:06
Speaker 11: they don't take it seriously as a government.
27:08
Speaker 2: Just quickly remind me where as taxpayers are paying something
27:12
Speaker 2: like four hundred million dollars to NARU and at last
27:17
Speaker 2: count they've only taken six people, is that right?
27:23
Speaker 11: That is exactly right. But the deal in total is
27:25
Speaker 11: more than two billion. I think it's two and a
27:27
Speaker 11: half billion over the life of the deal. They've got
27:29
Speaker 11: six people there, six slated to go and a small
27:34
Speaker 11: handful more I think twenty seven to have had their visas. Granted,
27:40
Speaker 11: that is a huge amount of money and there are
27:43
Speaker 11: no details around this deal of course either though taxpayers
27:46
Speaker 11: don't need to know how this labor government is spending
27:49
Speaker 11: their money. It's none of their business. Apparently, I think
27:52
Speaker 11: it is something we need to know more about and
27:54
Speaker 11: we'll be pushing for more detail. But again another mishandling
27:58
Speaker 11: of a very serious issue by a government that should
28:01
Speaker 11: have this as its number one job keeping Australian safe
28:04
Speaker 11: from people like this n ZYQ cohort murderers, sex criminals,
28:09
Speaker 11: terrible people we don't want on our streets.
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Speaker 2: Child rapists and the lot.
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Speaker 1: I'll leave it there.
28:13
Speaker 2: Jonathan Dunnean, thank you, Senator Dunnium there from Tasmania in
28:17
Speaker 2: the shadow Home Affairsport Follier. All right, after the break.
28:20
Speaker 2: What does a seasoned polster make out of the rise
28:23
Speaker 2: of one nation on the weekend and importantly the implications
28:27
Speaker 2: not just for the Liberals and Canberra but also labor.
28:36
Speaker 2: Welcome back that shock report that says almost two thirds
28:39
Speaker 2: of all Australians are worried that we are asleep at
28:42
Speaker 2: the wheel in terms of defense preparedness. Senator James Patterson
28:47
Speaker 2: on that shortly. But let's go back to the South
28:49
Speaker 2: Australian lecture. Result, Yes to something victory for labor, but
28:53
Speaker 2: that's no surprise. What it did show is that the
28:56
Speaker 2: rise of one nation is not limited to the polls.
28:59
Speaker 2: It is now confirmed at the ballot box. Join mean now,
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Speaker 2: Redbridge Group director and polster Kaus Samaras, because I want
29:08
Speaker 2: to pull this apart, because I think you're a good
29:09
Speaker 2: analyst and you understand the labor beast better than most.
29:13
Speaker 2: Labor got an increased majority. You would expect that, you know,
29:17
Speaker 2: strong and premiere from the labor right delivering results. The
29:21
Speaker 2: Liberal priory vote fell below that of one nation. What
29:25
Speaker 2: are some of the federal implications from this result.
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Speaker 12: The obvious one is for the Liberal Party and that
29:31
Speaker 12: is what we see nationally in the polls is clearly
29:34
Speaker 12: now reflected in a live ballot, and that that should
29:38
Speaker 12: replicate itself across the country. Where one nation could put
29:42
Speaker 12: the national party in the Liberal Party in regional electrics
29:44
Speaker 12: under a lot of pressure, there's a caveat to that,
29:48
Speaker 12: and that is for them to win those seats off
29:50
Speaker 12: the coalition, they need to have a very high primary
29:52
Speaker 12: vote and we could see that large that dynamic in Australia.
29:56
Speaker 12: The flip side to this, of course, is you look
29:59
Speaker 12: at a seat like Elizabe, which I was watching during
30:01
Speaker 12: the night. So was I.
30:02
Speaker 6: So was I because that is the type of electric.
30:05
Speaker 12: That I have been looking at for some time as
30:08
Speaker 12: evidence of one nation into labor space, and we could
30:11
Speaker 12: see that actually occurred. The only reason I would argue
30:15
Speaker 12: that labor is not in trouble in elizabeth is because
30:18
Speaker 12: of the strength of the labor brand newseel of Australia.
30:20
Speaker 12: That is not a dynamic we're seeing federally, and there's
30:23
Speaker 12: not a dynamic we're seeing in states like Victoria, so
30:26
Speaker 12: in similar seats, it's out a suburban former industrial electorates.
30:32
Speaker 12: You know, these are sort of communities that used to
30:35
Speaker 12: have heavy industry no longer have that suffering economic decline,
30:39
Speaker 12: historic labor voting constituencies.
30:42
Speaker 6: One nation will eat into their vote in a very
30:44
Speaker 6: considerable way.
30:46
Speaker 2: And let me underscore the point where you have markets
30:49
Speaker 2: either federally with the prime Minister as the brand failure
30:54
Speaker 2: for labor necessarily and where you have that case very
30:57
Speaker 2: much in Victoria with Jacinta Allen. That's the hurt pain
31:01
Speaker 2: pull apart the one nation voter. Like, what's really interesting
31:05
Speaker 2: to me is they are now crossing all age and
31:08
Speaker 2: gender demographics. So talk me through the one nation voter
31:13
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five.
31:14
Speaker 12: Yeah, so there is the support amongst young Austrains is
31:18
Speaker 12: in the teams, not huge, but it's there. It grows
31:22
Speaker 12: as the age as we move through the age groups. However,
31:26
Speaker 12: the biggest I would say demographic trait of a one
31:30
Speaker 12: nation vote is that they are overwhelmingly people with their
31:32
Speaker 12: tathe or trade qualification multi color, so not just blue
31:37
Speaker 12: collar pink collar people work in age care in all
31:41
Speaker 12: sorts of jobs and industries and predominantly in the outer
31:45
Speaker 12: suburbs and regions. Labour's flip side to that, Labour's strength
31:50
Speaker 12: is now with the university educated class. And so we're
31:53
Speaker 12: now having a political movement that is beginning to hoover
31:57
Speaker 12: up that sort of constituency that we see gravitating two
32:01
Speaker 12: similar parties in the UK like Reform and in the
32:05
Speaker 12: US like Trump.
32:07
Speaker 2: All right, let me play this grab for you on
32:09
Speaker 2: to get your take on this phrase. Let's listen, patriotism
32:13
Speaker 2: in our country comes in a number of forms, So
32:17
Speaker 2: let's be proud and patriotic in the Australian way.
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Speaker 11: But the heart of the progressive patriotism agenda the Prime
32:24
Speaker 11: Minister took to the people in twenty twenty two and
32:27
Speaker 11: twenty twenty five.
32:29
Speaker 2: Now, I do want to get your take on Labour's
32:31
Speaker 2: use of the phrase. Now it's coming out very clearly
32:34
Speaker 2: progressive patriotism. I do laugh when I see it coming
32:37
Speaker 2: out of Canberra because I make a show of standing
32:39
Speaker 2: behind three flags, not our one and only national flag.
32:43
Speaker 2: But why are they doing this and what do you
32:45
Speaker 2: make of the term, Like how successful will it be
32:48
Speaker 2: to get back people who love our flag, who are
32:50
Speaker 2: proud of our country back to supporting the left.
32:54
Speaker 12: It's going to be pretty hard. I mean, basically the
32:57
Speaker 12: types of Australians that have pushed back on a culture
33:03
Speaker 12: of basically not taking pride in the nation state, so
33:07
Speaker 12: to speak.
33:09
Speaker 6: They're varied.
33:10
Speaker 12: So it's the usual crew which you know you find
33:13
Speaker 12: with only for one nation and the Coalition, and there's
33:15
Speaker 12: a portion of the labor base that fits in this
33:17
Speaker 12: category and that's why they are there. To be fair
33:20
Speaker 12: to the self Australian Premier, he has been consistent throughout
33:22
Speaker 12: his entire career on this narrative. I think there's some
33:26
Speaker 12: others that are coming to the table quite late and
33:29
Speaker 12: unfortunately for them, if it's not something that you have
33:32
Speaker 12: champion all your political career, it's just not going to sail.
33:36
Speaker 2: Just a quick one. We mentioned Victoria. There's a survey
33:38
Speaker 2: out from the Agenda Group Community Pulse. They found half
33:42
Speaker 2: of all Victorians feel they're being ignored by the Allen
33:45
Speaker 2: government and there's even a third of them willing to
33:47
Speaker 2: say we're actually thinking we'll leave the state. There's a
33:51
Speaker 2: lot of talk she's going to get rolled, and get
33:54
Speaker 2: rolled not just by someone from the left. There's even
33:56
Speaker 2: an open mind from the right faction, which is the
33:59
Speaker 2: faction that doesn't have the numbers in Victoria. And I'm
34:01
Speaker 2: sure you know all of this intimately from your labor history,
34:04
Speaker 2: but I mean this is now I think getting into
34:07
Speaker 2: a real danger zone for Jacina Allen.
34:11
Speaker 6: To twelve year old government.
34:14
Speaker 12: I would argue that she probably didn't disconnect herself or
34:18
Speaker 12: differential herself from Dan Andrews enough and she's basically been
34:24
Speaker 12: judged by the Victorian public as an extension of that administration.
34:29
Speaker 6: That's fundamentally the epicenter. Changing the leaders won't change the
34:33
Speaker 6: problem for the Labor Party in Victoria. Their prim is
34:35
Speaker 6: not going to change.
34:37
Speaker 12: They have accumulated a lot of political baggage, particularly arising
34:41
Speaker 12: from the lockdowns and the PTSD that is associated with
34:44
Speaker 12: that which no other i'll say Australian fully understands unless
34:48
Speaker 12: you actually live fraud in Victoria.
34:50
Speaker 6: And so.
34:52
Speaker 12: Yeah, basically they have to basically team together and get
34:55
Speaker 12: over this, but it's going to be very difficult. To
34:58
Speaker 12: your point on that survey, Yes, it is the most
35:01
Speaker 12: unhappiest place in the state, the happiest state in the country,
35:06
Speaker 12: and we could see that real large both major parties
35:08
Speaker 12: primers in the twenties, one nations in the twenties. We're
35:11
Speaker 12: going to have eight a by elections potentially at the
35:13
Speaker 12: end of the year if the trend continues.
35:15
Speaker 2: Just quickly on that, I think we need to make
35:17
Speaker 2: the point for people around the country. Yes, the government's
35:20
Speaker 2: absolutely on the nose, but the coalition to win, the
35:22
Speaker 2: Liberal Party National Party coalition, they are joined, unlike in
35:26
Speaker 2: South Australia, They've got to get sixteen seats. I mean,
35:30
Speaker 2: that is a superhuman effort.
35:32
Speaker 12: Especially based on the current polling numbers and our analysis.
35:36
Speaker 12: I will not rule out right now as it stands,
35:39
Speaker 12: and there could change. One actually can win up to
35:41
Speaker 12: twelve of those eight come from the coalition.
35:44
Speaker 2: Wow wow Wow. All right, I'll leave it there, thank you,
35:48
Speaker 2: cos we stay across that obviously. That's in November, the
35:51
Speaker 2: Victorian start election after the break. The PM might have
35:53
Speaker 2: his head in the sand on defense, but Australians don't.
35:56
Speaker 2: There's a new study that lays bare just how exposed
36:00
Speaker 2: they think we are.
36:00
Speaker 8: Not just China.
36:02
Speaker 2: That's not the only issue they're worried about AI. They're
36:04
Speaker 2: worried about a whole lot of other things. I'll get
36:07
Speaker 2: to that with James Patterson.
36:08
Speaker 12: After the break.
36:13
Speaker 2: Coming out, we're now told we've got to be sensitive
36:15
Speaker 2: to drag queens with menopause. I mean, honestly, you cannot
36:20
Speaker 2: make this stuff up. But out of the significant study
36:23
Speaker 2: with some alarming results about how Australians feel about the
36:27
Speaker 2: current global security environment. The survey was undertaken by the
36:31
Speaker 2: A and u's National Security College, and it reveals that
36:35
Speaker 2: we're anxious about rising non military security threats as well
36:38
Speaker 2: as everything else because we believe we could be at
36:41
Speaker 2: a tipping point now for multiple crises, and overwhelmingly we
36:46
Speaker 2: think that Australia is both underprepared and underinformed. Significantly found
36:52
Speaker 2: that in November twenty twenty four, forty two percent of
36:55
Speaker 2: respondents reported they were worried about national security. By July
37:00
Speaker 2: last year that had jumped to some fifty percent, and
37:03
Speaker 2: by February this year it had jumped again to sixty
37:07
Speaker 2: four percent. Here to discussed this and more, Shadow Minister
37:11
Speaker 2: for Defense Victorian Senator James Patterson, Senator, thank you for
37:15
Speaker 2: your time. So so we've got two thirds of Australians
37:19
Speaker 2: worried about national security. Now if they're worried this means
37:23
Speaker 2: they like confidence in our national government. James. That's what
37:27
Speaker 2: it says to me.
37:31
Speaker 12: Peter.
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Speaker 9: This is a credit to the National Security College today
37:33
Speaker 9: and you for a really comprehensive piece of research. And
37:36
Speaker 9: one of the most remarkable things about it is it
37:38
Speaker 9: was entirely conducted before the war in Iran. So as
37:42
Speaker 9: high as these numbers are then just imagine how much
37:45
Speaker 9: high they would be now if you ask these questions again.
37:48
Speaker 9: And I think you're right. I think it does invite
37:50
Speaker 9: very real questions about whether or not Australians have confidence
37:53
Speaker 9: in this government to navigate this dangerous world. But as
37:56
Speaker 9: often is the case, I think, you know, the political
37:58
Speaker 9: class doesn't give this straining people to credit they deserve.
38:02
Speaker 9: They've got busy lives, I've got other things to worry about.
38:04
Speaker 9: But actually they have a pretty sophisticated understanding of the
38:07
Speaker 9: dangerous world we live in and our lack of preparedness
38:10
Speaker 9: for it, and we should be being much more upfront
38:13
Speaker 9: and honest with them about what we need to do
38:15
Speaker 9: to navigate it.
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Speaker 2: I think they're also looking at the United States and
38:19
Speaker 2: thinking that for a long time, we've had all of
38:21
Speaker 2: our eggs in the ANSAs relationship you know, we've underspent,
38:27
Speaker 2: we've underprepared, thinking we'll just call on Uncle Sam to
38:31
Speaker 2: protect us, to come to that. But I think now
38:32
Speaker 2: we're seeing we've got to stand on our own two feet.
38:35
Speaker 2: Trump very clearly is saying that to all the nations
38:38
Speaker 2: around the world, you've got to pull your weight if
38:40
Speaker 2: you expect us to put the lives of Americans on
38:42
Speaker 2: the line to defend you. So they're picking that up.
38:46
Speaker 2: They're looking at the rise of AI, they're looking at
38:48
Speaker 2: the impact of war around the world, and they're saying,
38:51
Speaker 2: you know, when we are as a nation not ready,
38:54
Speaker 2: and we're certainly not as ready as we should be.
38:57
Speaker 2: Why do you think the wheels have started to fall
38:59
Speaker 2: off here in their confidence.
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Speaker 9: Well, I think they see the rhetoric doesn't match the action.
39:06
Speaker 9: When you have the government stand up and say, we're
39:08
Speaker 9: living in the most dangerous strategic environment since the end
39:11
Speaker 9: of World War II, but our defense spending levels have
39:14
Speaker 9: stayed flat at two percent of GDP, when we have
39:18
Speaker 9: a peacetime mindset of our military procurement, just going through
39:21
Speaker 9: the motions, doing things as slowly as we always have done.
39:24
Speaker 9: When we're not reacting to and learning from incidents and
39:28
Speaker 9: events like Ukraine and Iran and massively scaling up the
39:31
Speaker 9: production of missiles, or acquiring armed drones to defend ourselves,
39:36
Speaker 9: or acquiring integrated air and missile defense to defend our
39:39
Speaker 9: northern bases or our major cities or our ports. Australians
39:42
Speaker 9: can see that the rhetoric doesn't match the action. I mean,
39:45
Speaker 9: the truth is, if they knew the full extent of it,
39:47
Speaker 9: they'd be even more alarmed. If they knew how likely
39:50
Speaker 9: conflict was according to intelligence assessments, and if they knew
39:53
Speaker 9: how ill prepared the ADF was despite its best efforts,
39:56
Speaker 9: they'd be marching in the streets demanding high defense spending.
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Speaker 2: I also think they understand, James, that energy security is
40:03
Speaker 2: national security. They're looking at the fuel security crisis, so
40:07
Speaker 2: they're worried whether we've got the stocks and supplies, whether
40:09
Speaker 2: we've got the people competently placed in the positions they
40:12
Speaker 2: need to be to sort this mess out. I mean,
40:15
Speaker 2: what did you make of the revelations in the Telegraph
40:17
Speaker 2: over the weekend that Chris Bowen did not even turn
40:21
Speaker 2: up to the National Cabinet meeting on fuel security.
40:26
Speaker 9: When your Minister Peter as you would know your most
40:29
Speaker 9: important thing is your priorities. How do you choose to
40:31
Speaker 9: spend your time. And when Chris Bowen was first faced
40:34
Speaker 9: with a choice, should he attend a national Cabinet meeting
40:36
Speaker 9: to get Australia's fuel supply moving again, finding its way
40:40
Speaker 9: to the people that need it, or should he be
40:42
Speaker 9: attending a climate conference? He chose the climate conference. And
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Speaker 9: that tells you everything you need to know about this government.
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Speaker 9: It's not equipped to make the tough decisions in the
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Speaker 9: national interest. It doesn't understand the seriousness of the threats
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Speaker 9: to the supply of fuel, particularly diesel and petrol, and
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Speaker 9: the catastrophic consequence for the Australian economy if that supply
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Speaker 9: is interrupted for any meaningful period of time, as well
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Speaker 9: as our way of life. And so again we have
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Speaker 9: a part time minister who's just not up to the job,
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Speaker 9: and Anthony Albanez, you should relieve him of that responsibility
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Speaker 9: so I can spend all his time.
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Speaker 2: And this reflects on the Prime Minister. Now, I mean
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Speaker 2: this reflects on the Prime minister that we're in this crisis.
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Speaker 2: You know, there's a litanyar failures with this bloke, whether
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Speaker 2: it was his time as Immigration minister where it is
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Speaker 2: his time as the treasurer in the previous administration. Why
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Speaker 2: do they put up with it? I mean code hangar
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Speaker 2: him out of the way. Sending him to Corventry puts
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Speaker 2: someone in who actually cares about the portfolio. We should
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Speaker 2: have to put up with this.
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Speaker 9: Well, Chris Bold already has one foot out the door.
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Speaker 9: He's been elected as the President of the Global Climate
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Speaker 9: Negotiations as part of this deal with Turkey, so that
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Speaker 9: we don't host the Conference of Parties, and clearly his
41:50
Speaker 9: day jobber being Energy Minister is too hard work. The
41:53
Speaker 9: energy transition is not going very well at all, Prices
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Speaker 9: arising and reliability is going down. So he's already got
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Speaker 9: his eye focused on the next horizon and getting on
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Speaker 9: a plane and flying around the world. Well, if that's
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Speaker 9: what where he wants to be, let him do that
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Speaker 9: and appoint an energy Minister who's actually focused on Australians
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Speaker 9: and the crisis. We have not on someone who frankly
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Speaker 9: spent the last two weeks gas lighting Australians by saying
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Speaker 9: that there is no fuel crisis, there are no shortages,
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Speaker 9: there's nothing to see here. Will Australians see every day
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Speaker 9: at the petrol bowser that there is a crisis and
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Speaker 9: this government has no plan to solve it.
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Speaker 2: You know, not wrong, set it up. I'll over it there,
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Senor James Patterson. All right, coming
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Speaker 2: out find out how a company chaired by Wayne Swan
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Speaker 2: but fast tracked that was fast tracked for a ten
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Speaker 2: billion dollar sand project. This is supposedly for domestic solar
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Speaker 2: and Wind is now exporting our silica to China. We'll
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Speaker 2: get into that after the break. Welcome back. This is
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Speaker 2: a treat you know. I'm here in Sydney tonight and
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Speaker 2: my panel is with me. Normally it's always remote joining
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Speaker 2: me Sky On New's host Jamie Rogers again, great show
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Speaker 2: on today, don't miss it. I love it. She's doing
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Speaker 2: very very well. And the senior fellow at the Mensis
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Speaker 2: at Research Center, my good friend Nick Cata. Well, welcome
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Speaker 2: to you both. Going to start on South Australia. Nick,
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Speaker 2: you read today, don't you lives are going to go
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Speaker 2: hard now after one nation. And I made the point
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Speaker 2: there are people we left them, they didn't leave us.
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Speaker 2: You get them back with sugar nut vinegar.
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Speaker 6: Well, that's right.
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Speaker 1: I think the first read the main reason people have
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Speaker 1: gone to One Nation is because they're saying the kind
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Speaker 1: of things they want the Liberal Party to say. They're
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Speaker 1: speaking out, being outspoken on immigration, and they're being outspoken
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Speaker 1: on other topics that we're just not talking about so clearly.
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Speaker 1: I think the way back for the Liberal Party is
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Speaker 1: to have a much clearer message on all those issues.
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Speaker 1: And hopefully we'll get an immigration policy soon, we've been
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Speaker 1: waiting long enough, and we might get a restatement of
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Speaker 1: our energy policy, and then I think it'll be a
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Speaker 1: long process we can make our way back. I think
43:57
Speaker 1: it is fair enough to point out, as Matt Canavan's
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Speaker 1: been doing, that One Nation have been a party of
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Speaker 1: basically critics for most of their existence. They're a reactionary party.
44:08
Speaker 1: They're react against what's bad. They don't point to what
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Speaker 1: can be good about this country necessarily. I think all
44:14
Speaker 1: that's fair enough. And I thought paul In handsOn the
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Speaker 1: other week on Sky on that documentary, when she clearly
44:19
Speaker 1: said she wasn't seeking any ministerial positions in a government,
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Speaker 1: she just wanted to keep the government of whatever color
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Speaker 1: to account, I think it's fair enough to point out
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Speaker 1: that you won't get rid of labor if you just
44:32
Speaker 1: elect a party that's contented to be critics from the side,
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Speaker 1: you need people that are going to get in and
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Speaker 1: get on the pitch and get the hands dirty.
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Speaker 2: I played the grabs a little bit earlier, Jamie, but
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Speaker 2: all this, you know, move to left, move to the right.
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Speaker 2: You know, moderates like Anne Rustin from South Australia saying
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Speaker 2: that we're comfortably where we should be. Well, yeah you are,
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Speaker 2: but that's where you've got this terrible, terrible result. And
44:56
Speaker 2: then when people like Tinlie Passons say we have to
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Speaker 2: go back to the said to righte we haven't been
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Speaker 2: on the center right. You've got people like McLaughlin in
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Speaker 2: the Senate from South Australia, so we can't go even
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Speaker 2: further to the right. Blood I argue they weren't at
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Speaker 2: all on the right, hence the result.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, you're spot on, and that is the problem, and
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Speaker 10: that's why voters are going towards One Nation. I have
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Speaker 10: been inundated on social media with people sending to me saying,
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Speaker 10: what do the liberal stand for? You are wishy washy,
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Speaker 10: You've got no policies, but we know what Pauline and
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Speaker 10: One Nation stand for. They have never changed what they
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Speaker 10: believed in for thirty years, and at a time when
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Speaker 10: there's so much uncertainty around the world and our country
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Speaker 10: is certainly going in the wrong direction, people want to
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Speaker 10: see clarity and know what they are voting for. I
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Speaker 10: do think that Matt Canavan and Angus Taylor are good
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Speaker 10: leaders that are now going to be taking over the
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Speaker 10: coalition and hopefully heading us into the right direction, because
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Speaker 10: that is what voters are calling out for. I think
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Speaker 10: we do need to figure out though a solution with
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Speaker 10: one nation because they are obviously taking some of that
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Speaker 10: liberal vote, but they also took some off labour too
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Speaker 10: in South Australia. I think we need to be saying
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Speaker 10: put labor last as the solution here. I don't know
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Speaker 10: if they'll go and do some preferencing deals, but if
46:08
Speaker 10: we can just all say put labor last and have
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Speaker 10: that as the joint messaging to make it very clear
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Speaker 10: that if we want to get rid of labor, put
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Speaker 10: them last on your voting paper.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to this interesting story that I picked it
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Speaker 2: up about a company headed up by Wayne Swan that
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Speaker 2: was approved by the Albanesi government for a ten billion
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Speaker 2: dollar project got fast tracked to mind silica sand to
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Speaker 2: go into solar panels, you would think it was for
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Speaker 2: the domestic supply. That was certainly how it was sold.
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Speaker 2: We're now fine, they're going to make a lot of
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Speaker 2: money by exporting that silica now to China presumably will
46:41
Speaker 2: be buying back these solar panels. But what's also interesting
46:45
Speaker 2: there's a connection between Wayne Swan and the bloke that
46:48
Speaker 2: was appointed personally by the Prime Minister last year Nick
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Speaker 2: to head up the Department of Climate Change and Environment
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Speaker 2: and Energy. A guy called Mike Kaiser, who used to
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Speaker 2: be the party boss in Queensland, work closely with Wayne
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Speaker 2: Swine labour staffer for many years, is the head of
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Speaker 2: the department, salary close to a million dollars and a
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Speaker 2: personal pick of the PM. This is all a bit
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Speaker 2: too close for my comfort. I think there needs to
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Speaker 2: be a lens and integrity, a lens applied over this.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, for anybody who's followed Queensland politics for the last
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Speaker 1: twenty years, Mike Kaiser was a big figure in the party,
47:23
Speaker 1: Like you wouldn't get pre selected without Mike Kaiser. Prew
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Speaker 1: toppic Sear exactly. I think this whole thing absolutely stinks.
47:30
Speaker 1: I've got nothing against politicians going into business. Perhaps they
47:33
Speaker 1: should go into business before they go into politics. They
47:35
Speaker 1: might know a bit more when they get there. But
47:37
Speaker 1: this whole deal mining silicon, the idea is that are
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Speaker 1: going to build silicon panels here, We're going to have
47:43
Speaker 1: our own solar industry whatever that means. No, it's all
47:46
Speaker 1: going off sure to the real newbal energy superpower, which
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Speaker 1: is China. There's no reason why the government should have
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Speaker 1: fast tracked this or given any favors. In fact, you know,
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Speaker 1: Wayne Swine, if you had any decency, would have clearly
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Speaker 1: put his hands up and say arms length from this one.
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Speaker 2: What about menopause and brag queens? I mean, how many
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Speaker 2: ways can they go out of their way? They're left
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Speaker 2: to offend women.
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Speaker 10: Peter, I think this is a perfect example why people
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Speaker 10: are voting one nation. They are sick of this rubbish
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Speaker 10: of what's going on. And can I just say, in
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Speaker 10: that study they've said it's really hard to disentangle the
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Speaker 10: medical from the social cultural, which is why they have
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Speaker 10: to do an investigation into menopause for the gender diverse.
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Speaker 10: It is so insulting. When I read this article this morning,
48:29
Speaker 10: I literally sent it to a friend and just said
48:31
Speaker 10: I've had enough of society today. I'm just done.
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Speaker 6: It's a say.
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Speaker 10: It's in line with the fake pregnancy that was going
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Speaker 10: around on social where a transgender woman was simulating a
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Speaker 10: pregnancy at thirty seven weeks and people online were praising
48:42
Speaker 10: her for still going to work. But it was fake.
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Speaker 2: We were probably fake. You were probably paying to give
48:47
Speaker 2: her time off anyway.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, but it's all it's fake. We have to stick
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Speaker 10: with biology and facts and stop gaslighting the nation that
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Speaker 10: you because you identify as a female, you are one,
48:58
Speaker 10: and that you can go through menopause, and that you
48:59
Speaker 10: can be pregnant, and that you can breastfeed. No, we
49:02
Speaker 10: need to start legislating this because it's getting out of hand.
49:05
Speaker 10: It's actually ridiculous.
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Speaker 2: We need a campaign, don't we to put the definition
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Speaker 2: of women as biological adult female back in the six
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Speaker 2: discris connect and we put an end to this. Absolutely,
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Speaker 2: going gets Taylor, you want a nice, common sense policy
49:17
Speaker 2: before Pete before Pauline puts it up as her Yes,
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Speaker 2: you better get onto it.
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Speaker 10: Yes, exactly.
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