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Jaxon Smith-Njigba’s megadeal, Ty Simpson a first rounder, and Kelce's new contract · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff three
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Speaker 1: because it's a podcast recording from our studios here in Scottsdale, Arizona,
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Speaker 1: and uh. We had a lot going on today because
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Speaker 1: friend of the show, John Schneider just extended his former
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Speaker 1: first round pick JSN to a massive, massive contract. The
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Speaker 1: implications and the ripple effects this will have on a
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Speaker 1: guy like Poka Nakua. We have a lot of people
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Speaker 1: saying that Tys Simpson, the Alabama quarterback, is going to
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Speaker 1: go in the first round. Have to dive into that.
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Speaker 1: We have some other stories floating around Kelsey. You know,
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Speaker 1: some numbers came out. We have a player at Oklahoma
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Speaker 1: who went to the Combine and wants to come back
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Speaker 1: checks that out out. Let's just dive right into the
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Speaker 1: breaking news, the JSN contract, and I think the key
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Speaker 1: to a well run team and this is well established now.
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Speaker 1: Every GM says this. Every new coach in GM when
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Speaker 1: they're hired, says this. We want to draft and develop.
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Speaker 1: That is the goal. It's like the cliche, what do
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Speaker 1: you want your team to look like? Smart, tough, mentally, tough,
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Speaker 1: physical and violence. It's like every coach says the same thing.
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Speaker 1: Of course, you want to draft players and then extend them.
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Speaker 1: That is the goal. And John Schneider has a history
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Speaker 1: now with Pete Carroll in their first run of drafting
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Speaker 1: really well, extending a bunch of homegrown guys and building
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Speaker 1: a great team. And I got a lot of questions
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Speaker 1: from a lot of Seattle fans of we have all
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Speaker 1: this money, why is he being so conservative? And a
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Speaker 1: wise man told me, a wise wise man, super Bowl
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Speaker 1: winning general manager, and listen, I'm very guilty of this
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Speaker 1: because like most and like most people just on television,
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Speaker 1: we just cap space, cap space, the salary cap. And
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Speaker 1: he's like John, there is a big difference between salary cap,
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Speaker 1: the salary cap space, and cash spending. No one ever
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Speaker 1: talks about the cash spending. You know, us, the gms
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Speaker 1: and the person we don't own the team. We get
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Speaker 1: this thing called a budget. You know most of us
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Speaker 1: right in the real world, nonsports, if you run a
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Speaker 1: podcast company, if you run a finance company, if you
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Speaker 1: run an HVAC company, you got budgets, right, You either
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Speaker 1: got monthly budgets, quarterly budgets, and it's actual cash. Like
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Speaker 1: we were, don't have salary caps. If I want to
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Speaker 1: build this office, it's gonna cost you forty seven thousand
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Speaker 1: dollars and you gotta pay for it, right, there's no like. Well,
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Speaker 1: the salary cap this year on the ability for you
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Speaker 1: to spend on podcast equipment is ninety eight thousand dollars. Now,
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Speaker 1: you don't have to spend it, right, but that is
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Speaker 1: the maximum amount you can spend to compete with the
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Speaker 1: other podcast. It's somehow we live, right, But in football
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Speaker 1: and in basketball they have caps. Right, we could argue
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Speaker 1: whether that's fair or not. I think it's so lucrative
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Speaker 1: now for everyone involved. It's hard to bitch and moan
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Speaker 1: about anything, but the actual money coming out is what
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Speaker 1: you need to look for. And when Kobe Bryant and
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Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker signed with other teams, the Bears and the Chiefs,
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Speaker 1: they got to combine twenty five million dollars in signing bonuses.
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Speaker 1: And when you get a signing bonus, whether that's five million,
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Speaker 1: ten million, thirty million, that is money paid within two
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Speaker 1: weeks of you signing the contract. You get that cash immediately.
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Speaker 1: So Jackson Smith and Jigba just got a thirty five
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Speaker 1: million dollars signing bonus, meaning thirty five million dollars now
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Speaker 1: depending on taxes, Luckily, the Washington millionaire income tax isn't
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Speaker 1: coming for years, so no state income tax profitable to
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Speaker 1: be Jackson Smith and Jigba in the next cup weeks,
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Speaker 1: he's going to get thirty five million dollars. And you
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Speaker 1: have to work within the constant the you know, the
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Speaker 1: the confines of whatever budget you're given. And listen, Seattle,
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Speaker 1: they have some ownership, they're in flux that they are
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Speaker 1: currently in the process of selling the team. And I
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Speaker 1: also think like Jackson Smith is a cornerstone piece. He
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Speaker 1: is an elite player. It was pretty clear early, but
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Speaker 1: this year once they got Sam Darnold, what were his
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Speaker 1: stats this year? One hundred and nineteen catches, almost eighteen
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Speaker 1: hundred yards and ten touchdowns. And honestly, when you watch
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Speaker 1: them at the times, you look like Jerry fucking Rice.
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Speaker 1: He's the type guy that you got to break off.
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Speaker 1: And because of the position he plays, it ain't cheap.
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Speaker 1: You know, a couple of years ago, Brandon Auk, who's
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Speaker 1: catching seventy five balls a year, got thirty million dollars
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Speaker 1: a year and seventy five guarantee. So the number at
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Speaker 1: wide receiver is astronomical. And when you are as good
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Speaker 1: as this guy, he's twenty four years old. He's a
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Speaker 1: homegrown guy. So you not only know the player how
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Speaker 1: he fits in the scheme, but the person, which clearly
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Speaker 1: they feel really good about. It costs a premium, and
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Speaker 1: this is about budgeting how much you're actually gonna spend
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Speaker 1: in cash for your team. And it's why you let
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Speaker 1: guys go on the margins, even if they're good players,
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Speaker 1: even if they're the super Bowl MVP or one of
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Speaker 1: the better defensive backs in your conference. Well you go,
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Speaker 1: we got other defensive backs that on our own team
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Speaker 1: that we think are better and are gonna cost a
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Speaker 1: lot of money. And this is why I defended him
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Speaker 1: for letting some guys walk that. It was like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: because you were going to make a payment like this.
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Speaker 1: Last year they extended Charles Cross the left tackle Google.
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Speaker 1: How much that contract was wasn't cheap. But here's the thing.
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Speaker 1: You know, when you hit on guys in the draft,
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Speaker 1: and they have had an incredible run now in the
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Speaker 1: first round of hitting on high end talent at certain positions,
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Speaker 1: it's even more expensive. If Jackson Smith and Jigba had
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Speaker 1: been the equivalent of he is an elite player at
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Speaker 1: tight end or linebacker. Maybe you could have kept some
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Speaker 1: other guys because it would have been cheaper, but because
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Speaker 1: of the position he plays, it's still expensive. And I've
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Speaker 1: been saying this about Sam Darnold. Everyone's like, well, Sam
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Speaker 1: Darnold's not making much relative to other positions, makes a shitload,
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Speaker 1: makes it over thirty million dollars a year. It's sign
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Speaker 1: one hundred million dollar contract. And when you play quarterback
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Speaker 1: usually see every penny like it's not nothing. It's not
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Speaker 1: sixty million, it's not Dak Prescott, but it's not like
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Speaker 1: some random guard making ten million dollars a year. And
7:34
Speaker 1: here's the other thing. They are on a run right
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Speaker 1: now that is pretty incredible. Going back to Charles Cross
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Speaker 1: whatever five years ago, they've gone a run with Once
7:43
Speaker 1: they made the trade for Denver and they got the
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Speaker 1: fifth overall pick, they drafted Devin Witherspoon, who is going
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Speaker 1: to get a massive contract, and they draft him to
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Speaker 1: pick five, and then later in that first round they
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Speaker 1: drafted Jackson Smith. So the year before they got Charles
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Speaker 1: Cross extended left hack. Then they get two more Cornerstone players,
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Speaker 1: and then over the course of the next two years.
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Speaker 1: Byron Murphy, last time I checked pretty damn good player
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Speaker 1: plays defensive tackle and he can rush the passer. Google
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Speaker 1: how much those guys make. It's not cheap. And then
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Speaker 1: last year their first couple picks. I mean, Zabel's gonna
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Speaker 1: be one of the best guards in the league for
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Speaker 1: a decade, and Emon Worri looks like some version of
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Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton, which you can look up how much Kyle
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Speaker 1: Hamilton makes. It's not nothing. So I think this is
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Speaker 1: part when you run a team, And this is the
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Speaker 1: difference now that John is in charge then when Pete
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Speaker 1: was in charge, because when coaches are in charge, they
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Speaker 1: are just consumed with the here and now that they
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Speaker 1: can't fathom letting a guy walk. It's like, I don't
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Speaker 1: want to lose Kobe Bryant. Well, we gotta pick and
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Speaker 1: choose who we keep. We don't have an unlimited amount
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Speaker 1: one of salary cap space, but two of cash that
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Speaker 1: we can spend, so we gotta be smart with how
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Speaker 1: we utilize it. And obviously they spend a lot of money.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like Seattle by any means is cheap.
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Speaker 1: But this notion that it's like you can just pay everybody,
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Speaker 1: and that's a very sexy thing for former players to
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Speaker 1: do on television. That's not how these organizations operate. Right
9:16
Speaker 1: back to again, you think Howie Roseman wanted to lose
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Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips, of course not. He traded for him with
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Speaker 1: the hopes of extending him, and it got to a
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Speaker 1: point of like, well, we can't pay eighty million dollars guaranteed,
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Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen. And I think when you get
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Speaker 1: these massive, massive contracts, and most good teams have a
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Speaker 1: quarterback making a lot of money, you gotta be smart
9:38
Speaker 1: with how you invested, and you've got to have conviction
9:41
Speaker 1: when you invest in these players, because you're not just
9:43
Speaker 1: investing in the player on the field, You're investing in
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Speaker 1: the person. And when you invest in the right people
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Speaker 1: who are great players, you can sustain winning. That's typically
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Speaker 1: how it works. It's why I would bet on Seattle,
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Speaker 1: especially because I think we all agree they have an excellent,
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Speaker 1: high end coach. They're not going anywhere. It's like they
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Speaker 1: have a bunch of young, good players all under contract.
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Speaker 1: Now they're making more money, meaning they're gonna have to
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Speaker 1: continue to draft well, especially in the later rounds. But
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Speaker 1: they have an elite general manager, a high end Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl winning coach, and a bunch of high end young talent.
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Speaker 1: Now where it gets difficult is over the next the
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Speaker 1: course of the next couple of years, as you give
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Speaker 1: out these massive contracts, it puts more and more pressure
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Speaker 1: on hitting third, four to fifth, sixth round players because
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Speaker 1: you need, you know, million dollar labor. Right. Not everyone
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Speaker 1: can make twenty thirty forty million dollars on your team.
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Speaker 1: That's not even possible. And I think Seattle is just
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Speaker 1: in very, very good position. I said this when the
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Speaker 1: story broke that Paul Allen's kids, we're going to sell
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Speaker 1: the team. I typically when these teams come for sale,
10:54
Speaker 1: they are they're great buys because you're buying into the NFL,
10:57
Speaker 1: but they're typically not in great position. Right. It's like,
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Speaker 1: I don't know about the coach, don't have much talent,
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Speaker 1: need a major overhaul. I don't think I can't remember
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Speaker 1: a situation being much better in this talent coach GM
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Speaker 1: all under contract, ready to roll. You're in a tough division.
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Speaker 1: You got McVeigh, you got Shanahan, you got the minor
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Speaker 1: league Arizona Cardinals. But I just think Seattle is so
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Speaker 1: well run. And I also think this shows to all
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Speaker 1: the fans that were like, what are we doing? Why
11:28
Speaker 1: are we not more aggressive? This is why because this
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Speaker 1: shit's expensive, and Jaysen now it's it's a little sometimes
11:36
Speaker 1: these contracts in the NFL could be like a little confusing.
11:39
Speaker 1: There's a lot going on. They're not just like you know,
11:43
Speaker 1: in basketball, it's very black and white. Right, you sign
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Speaker 1: a four year, two hundred million dollars deal forty million,
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Speaker 1: forty five, fifty to fifty five or whatever the you know,
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Speaker 1: it's just it's very cut and dry on a yearly basis.
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Speaker 1: Even in baseball there are opt outs. But like Kyle Tucker,
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Speaker 1: the dude from the Cubs, signs with the Dodgers four year,
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Speaker 1: two hundred and forty million, sixty million dollars a year,
12:02
Speaker 1: opt outs after year two and three. Right, it's this
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Speaker 1: is like guaranteed money, and it's like, well, he actually
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Speaker 1: has two years and twenty six million dollars left on
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Speaker 1: his rookie contract, so that actually is part of this contract.
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Speaker 1: That money was guaranteed because clearly they were gonna pick
12:19
Speaker 1: up a fifth year option. So it's not like one
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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty million dollars in New guaranteed money. It's
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Speaker 1: probably like one hundred million dollars in new guaranteed money,
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Speaker 1: but it's a lot and clearly they love this guy. Uh.
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Speaker 1: Obviously the positive momentum of coming off the Super Bowl
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Speaker 1: in him being a just dominant player for him and
12:37
Speaker 1: making play after play after play and listen, like, he's
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Speaker 1: not Randy Moss, right, he doesn't look like Terrell Owens,
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Speaker 1: but when you watch him, like his shit just translates.
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Speaker 1: When you can get open in the NFL. Uh, And
12:53
Speaker 1: obviously you've got great ball skills in you're fast, like
12:56
Speaker 1: that translates because we've seen a lot of guys that
12:59
Speaker 1: aren't as fast, that aren't great route runners, that are
13:01
Speaker 1: the contested catch guys. Sometimes in the prime of their
13:04
Speaker 1: careers they're a Kwon Boldener DeAndre Hopkins, and sometimes over
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Speaker 1: the first couple years they're Keon Coleman. It's like, I
13:10
Speaker 1: don't know about this one. I don't quite see this one.
13:13
Speaker 1: You know. It's why I remember when DeVante Adams came out,
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Speaker 1: it was like, you know, he's a little slow, he's
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Speaker 1: only a four or five five guy. It's like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: well just watch him get open, and what does he
13:23
Speaker 1: do He's a great route runner, he has great ball skills,
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Speaker 1: he has a great football IQ and understanding of playing
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Speaker 1: in space. Even Travis Kelce at this point in time
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Speaker 1: in his career, I know he plays tight end, but
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Speaker 1: he's basically a slot receiver. Is his feel for routes
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Speaker 1: and getting open. It's like you can't teach that, and
13:40
Speaker 1: that's what separates people in the NFL. Listen, the impact
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Speaker 1: today is like what about Puka Nakua, because that's the
13:47
Speaker 1: first thing I thought of, is like, well, do the
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Speaker 1: rams because I think it's fair, like you would just
13:52
Speaker 1: copy and paste this contract. A little different because Puka
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Speaker 1: wasn't a first round pick, meaning that like he only
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Speaker 1: has one year left on his rookie deal later around pick,
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Speaker 1: so he doesn't have a fifth year option. It's a
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Speaker 1: little more complicated. But I think Mike Garafalo said, don't
14:09
Speaker 1: expect that to happen anytime soon. And listen, there were
14:12
Speaker 1: some weird things that happened off the field. Felt like
14:15
Speaker 1: a little immature. It's easy for me to say, as
14:18
Speaker 1: some forty year old guy, like the fuck is this streamer?
14:20
Speaker 1: But like I don't pretend to like always understand every
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Speaker 1: single world clearly like he's hanging out with people I
14:28
Speaker 1: couldn't point out of a lineup. Doesn't mean that they're
14:30
Speaker 1: not popular and cool in his circles, but you could
14:34
Speaker 1: tell a couple times like he was a pain in
14:35
Speaker 1: Shawn's ass. And I think anytime that you want to
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Speaker 1: break a guy off, especially at like historic numbers, the
14:43
Speaker 1: last thing you want them to be is a problem.
14:46
Speaker 1: And you look at Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase, like
14:49
Speaker 1: those guys were kind of easy contracts. Not easy in
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Speaker 1: the sense of like there's a lot of money, but
14:53
Speaker 1: like we're pretty comfortable with these humans, And that's the
14:57
Speaker 1: question with Pooka, like how comfortable are the ramps? And
15:00
Speaker 1: I say this all the time, like I don't judge
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Speaker 1: coaches or gms off what they say unless you know
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Speaker 1: them personally, and they're like off record, but anything they
15:08
Speaker 1: say publicly because they always beat around the bush, they're
15:11
Speaker 1: very careful. We keep negotiations in house. I judge you
15:13
Speaker 1: on your actions, and it's gonna be very telling how
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Speaker 1: they handle this. They're either gonna offer him a massive
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Speaker 1: contract and he's gonna sign it right in a number
15:22
Speaker 1: in this world in this vicinity, or they're gonna play
15:25
Speaker 1: it out, and if they play it out, it shows
15:28
Speaker 1: you like they're a little uncomfortable right now. It's the
15:31
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter thing. There is no disputing and I listen,
15:35
Speaker 1: I think people would argue, like when you watch Pooka,
15:38
Speaker 1: I told my buddy's a wide receiver coach in the league, Like,
15:42
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever seen a player like him.
15:43
Speaker 1: He's like, I honestly, I've been doing this for decades.
15:46
Speaker 1: He's very unique, right he won. One of his skills
15:50
Speaker 1: is like he literally plays harder than everyone else. And
15:53
Speaker 1: his ability to be like break tackles like he's you know,
15:57
Speaker 1: Earl Campbell is pretty crazy? Is that sustainable? And that's
16:02
Speaker 1: where I think the Rams are in kind of this
16:04
Speaker 1: weird spot of are they gonna give him a hundred
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Speaker 1: and twenty million dollars guaranteed? Because if you're Puka side
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Speaker 1: and you're representing him, like you basically just said, that's
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Speaker 1: this is where the number starts, like this is it?
16:15
Speaker 1: And I mean anytime you get one hundred and twenty
16:18
Speaker 1: million dollars in guarantees, you know, Michael Parson's just got
16:22
Speaker 1: what one hundred and forty five million dollars in guarantees.
16:24
Speaker 1: I mean, these are historic numbers. It is a great time,
16:28
Speaker 1: a great time to play premium positions in the NFL.
16:31
Speaker 1: Pass rushers, interior, exterior tackles, wide receivers, corners, I mean,
16:38
Speaker 1: obviously quarterbacks. But the money that's flying, I mean, this
16:42
Speaker 1: is NBA, Major League Baseball money flying around. So you
16:45
Speaker 1: know before it was like only the quarterbacks. I don't know.
16:48
Speaker 1: I see a lot of these guys getting paid thirty
16:52
Speaker 1: to forty million dollars now. I mean, hell, Linderbaum the
16:55
Speaker 1: Center just got twenty seven million dollars a year. So
16:58
Speaker 1: it's just if you're a great play, your team's either
17:01
Speaker 1: gonna extend your or you gonna hit the market like
17:03
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips and have people bidding on your services. And
17:05
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you look and you've got eighty
17:06
Speaker 1: million dollars in guarantees. Like, oh, he's a twenty sac guy. No,
17:09
Speaker 1: he's a single digit guy. Been banged up, but we're
17:12
Speaker 1: betting on the come. Uh So, props to JSN, props
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Speaker 1: to Seattle, and you gotta be feeling pretty good. It's
17:18
Speaker 1: gonna be fascinating to see what happens with Pooka. I
17:21
Speaker 1: saw today. Florio was like, this makes George Pickens's number. Like,
17:26
Speaker 1: I don't know if George has much in common with
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Speaker 1: these human beings, with JSN or Pooka, but like it
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Speaker 1: does complicate long term negotiations. I have a hard time
17:36
Speaker 1: blaming Jerry, Like, I'm not offering you a hundred million
17:39
Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed, but uh, we'll play out the franchise stag.
17:42
Speaker 1: You know we'll do that now. Could that get weird?
17:44
Speaker 1: A lot of pressure on Brian Schottenheimer for sure? Uh,
17:48
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Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. The story that's been percolating
19:59
Speaker 1: is Ty Simpson. And obviously we're gonna talk a lot
20:02
Speaker 1: of draft coming up. People like Middlecuff. Give me your mock.
20:06
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know if I'm breaking down guards
20:08
Speaker 1: with like the fourteenth pick, but I will talk quarterbacks.
20:11
Speaker 1: I will talk Jeremiah Love. I also think the wide
20:13
Speaker 1: receiver now, I think the wide receivers in this class
20:17
Speaker 1: talking about like no one views like a Jamar Chase
20:20
Speaker 1: or a Julio Jones, AJ Green, you know, Ceedee Lamb
20:25
Speaker 1: like guys that are You're very comfortable to DeVante Smith
20:29
Speaker 1: a couple of years back taking in like the top fifteen.
20:32
Speaker 1: But if you really like a guy and you need
20:35
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, taking a guy in the teams or
20:38
Speaker 1: the twenties, you get him for really cheap for a
20:41
Speaker 1: couple of years. Now, you've got to be right for
20:43
Speaker 1: that to matter, right, He's got to be a starter,
20:45
Speaker 1: an impact player. But if you draft a guy in
20:48
Speaker 1: the first couple of rounds, you were getting guy, if
20:50
Speaker 1: he becomes a Pro bowler, that's gonna be worth one
20:53
Speaker 1: hundred plus million dollars in guaranteed for a relatively cheap contract.
20:57
Speaker 1: You know that. This is why I'm always a proponent one.
21:00
Speaker 1: You build your team in the trenches, offensive line, defensive line,
21:04
Speaker 1: but you also get discounts. Right if you take one
21:09
Speaker 1: of the pass rushers really high, Reese or Bailey, or
21:11
Speaker 1: one of the tackles, the Miami kid, the Utah kid,
21:14
Speaker 1: and they become like a high end starter for you
21:18
Speaker 1: giving him like a thirty forty million dollar rookie contract,
21:21
Speaker 1: Like that's that's a steal. You know. It's kind of
21:24
Speaker 1: the pushback. I'm like, listen, Jeremiah Love is an elite player, right,
21:29
Speaker 1: He's There would be many I'm not talking to even
21:32
Speaker 1: media people, I'm talking in the NFL. They'll be like,
21:34
Speaker 1: this is the best player in the draft. But if
21:37
Speaker 1: it becomes like, hey, I think I'd get a Pro
21:39
Speaker 1: Bowl defensive lineman or a Pro Bowl running back, Well,
21:43
Speaker 1: the running back you're giving him a forty million dollar contract.
21:46
Speaker 1: Look at the running back contracts. It's not like they're
21:47
Speaker 1: making one hundred million dollars. So you're paying kind of
21:51
Speaker 1: already a premium. Now is he'd better be elite and
21:55
Speaker 1: you're passing on a pass rusher who would be a
21:57
Speaker 1: steal like you would be saved money relative to his position.
22:02
Speaker 1: So I think that comes into play, and this speaks
22:04
Speaker 1: to the quarterback right. I've been a long time believer
22:09
Speaker 1: in this quarterback inflation, and it was really the group.
22:13
Speaker 1: It probably started with Russell Wilson, which I think gave
22:18
Speaker 1: credence to the fact that like small guys could play.
22:22
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, you don't need to be Peyton Manning
22:24
Speaker 1: or Tom Brady. You can be five to ten. You
22:27
Speaker 1: can be five to eleven. And as we found out, no,
22:29
Speaker 1: you really can't like I mean short to me in
22:32
Speaker 1: the as a quarterbacks like six to two. There are
22:35
Speaker 1: some outliers. Perty's a little under six to one. He's
22:38
Speaker 1: a good player. But we've seen guys, you know, Kyler
22:42
Speaker 1: just struggle you can't see, and you know, we've seen
22:45
Speaker 1: Russell really struggle as he got older and he couldn't
22:47
Speaker 1: run around anymore because can't see now. Ty Simpson to me, physically,
22:52
Speaker 1: there are some like looking at his athletic profile six
22:57
Speaker 1: to one, little shade over six one, two hundred and
22:59
Speaker 1: ten pounds, I would say average Ish athlete. Didn't run
23:03
Speaker 1: or anything at the combine, Maybe you will at the
23:05
Speaker 1: pro day. I think there are some parallels with Perty,
23:08
Speaker 1: just physically, right arm strength. I think if you like them, timing,
23:12
Speaker 1: rhythm like that. Pretty was a four year starter. So
23:16
Speaker 1: the reps Perty got in college were dwarf. Ty Simpson
23:21
Speaker 1: started one year at Alabama. And here's the other thing.
23:24
Speaker 1: Perty went in the seventh round. The last pick of
23:28
Speaker 1: the draft was mister irrelevant. So when you're drafted on
23:31
Speaker 1: the third day as Nuss Myers and Drew Allers and
23:35
Speaker 1: Carson becksar a lot of times. And I was going
23:38
Speaker 1: to these forty nine ers camps at the time, Brock
23:40
Speaker 1: Perdy had to win, let me repeat, win the third
23:45
Speaker 1: string job for the forty nine Ers had to win
23:48
Speaker 1: the job, which he did. I forget the quarterback they had.
23:51
Speaker 1: They had four quarterbacks coming into camp, Trey Lance, Jimmy Garoppolo, Perdy,
23:55
Speaker 1: and one other guy. But the other guy they had
23:58
Speaker 1: guaranteed a salary at a couple millions, and they either
24:01
Speaker 1: cut him or traded him right before the end of
24:03
Speaker 1: training camp, which kind of was a light into like
24:06
Speaker 1: brock Perty's probably gonna make the team. And after he did.
24:09
Speaker 1: I remember Trent Williams like a year ago, gave an
24:11
Speaker 1: interview that was like I went up to Purdy before
24:13
Speaker 1: week one and I said, I don't think you realize
24:17
Speaker 1: how incredible of accomplishment what you just did was as
24:20
Speaker 1: the last pick in the draft, when we already had
24:22
Speaker 1: a bunch of quarterbacks on the roster, one guy being
24:25
Speaker 1: the third overall pick, another guy being the guy that
24:27
Speaker 1: had been our starter for years, and another guy that
24:29
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers had paid and they chose you
24:32
Speaker 1: for that spot to make the team. But again he
24:35
Speaker 1: started as a third stringer and needed broken ankles and
24:37
Speaker 1: broken feet to ever get on the field. So to me, historically,
24:42
Speaker 1: like Kirk Cousins, a lot of these guys that were
24:44
Speaker 1: drafted a little bit later, they got an easier landing
24:48
Speaker 1: spot in the start of their career when you overdraft
24:51
Speaker 1: in this quarterback inflation, and listen, everything is really expensive now, right.
24:55
Speaker 1: I was talking to a buddy today about plane flights,
24:58
Speaker 1: plane flights just you know, depending on where you live,
25:02
Speaker 1: you could find for whatever number you got pretty accustomed
25:05
Speaker 1: to do, especially if you're my age and you've been
25:07
Speaker 1: flying for a couple decades. Hey, you know, I can
25:10
Speaker 1: always find a cheap flight for a couple hundred bucks
25:12
Speaker 1: to fly here, to fly there. Obviously, there are some
25:14
Speaker 1: flights that are always a little bit more expensive, but
25:17
Speaker 1: now like the bare minimum flight of what you were
25:20
Speaker 1: used to, like, you almost have to double it, and
25:23
Speaker 1: it's part of the deal. Most things, beside televisions, for
25:26
Speaker 1: whatever reason, are way more expensive now than they used
25:29
Speaker 1: to be. But I still don't understand how the profile
25:34
Speaker 1: of a player has changed, Like he either has the
25:37
Speaker 1: attributes or he doesn't. We have seen a lot of
25:40
Speaker 1: guys historically that were one year starters blow up in
25:44
Speaker 1: our face. Like playing and reps in college have proven
25:49
Speaker 1: to be a really big deal. Just look at all
25:52
Speaker 1: the top guys. Right, Joe Burrow, somewhat of an outlier, right,
25:56
Speaker 1: didn't play that much, was a multiple year starter, but
25:59
Speaker 1: like by a second year he threw sixty plus touchdowns
26:01
Speaker 1: and they were the greatest team we'd ever seen. But
26:04
Speaker 1: most guys Patrick Holmes multiple year starter, Josh Allen multiple
26:07
Speaker 1: year starter, Lamar Jackson multiple year starter. And then you
26:10
Speaker 1: get into the Purdies, the Dacks, the Cousins. These guys
26:13
Speaker 1: had a ton of reps. So if you're talking about
26:15
Speaker 1: Jared Goff, three year starter, if you're talking about the
26:19
Speaker 1: non super high draft picks and you go to the
26:21
Speaker 1: middle rounds, they played a lot of football. So listen,
26:24
Speaker 1: I'm not disputing that Ty Simpson is some scrub, but
26:27
Speaker 1: to me, historically guys like that went like past pick
26:31
Speaker 1: seventy five and the other thing that allowed that guy
26:35
Speaker 1: to do one it brought more teams into play, typically
26:39
Speaker 1: the good teams. So you could go and have a
26:42
Speaker 1: soft landing spot and got to sit, got to learn,
26:47
Speaker 1: got to get more reps in practice, got to play
26:49
Speaker 1: a bunch of preseason reps. When you get drafted in
26:51
Speaker 1: the top thirty or forty picks, the pressure on you
26:55
Speaker 1: to either start immediately or like once you get your opportunity,
27:01
Speaker 1: like let's say even the Rams picked them, you better
27:03
Speaker 1: be damn good because if Stafford retires, their goal next
27:06
Speaker 1: year would be to win the NFC West, would be
27:10
Speaker 1: to win playoff games like that. The bar is fucking high.
27:13
Speaker 1: And if one of the shitty teams that needs a
27:15
Speaker 1: quarterback like Arizona the Jets, you know, one of those
27:18
Speaker 1: type teams draft you godspeed, because I would bet on
27:22
Speaker 1: you to fail. So I think this Ty Simpson talk
27:26
Speaker 1: is just classic quarterback inflation. Now I'm a little jaded.
27:29
Speaker 1: Maybe I need to go back and watch watch him
27:32
Speaker 1: a bunch down the stretch of the season. I know
27:33
Speaker 1: he's a little banged up. I didn't think he was
27:35
Speaker 1: that talented. I have a hard time with guys with
27:39
Speaker 1: limited traits who just haven't played that much to take high.
27:44
Speaker 1: Like I've just seen too many Mac Jones, too many
27:46
Speaker 1: Kenny Picketts. The pressure on those guys to immediately compete
27:51
Speaker 1: within a couple of years to be a top ten quarterback,
27:53
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you're like, is this
27:54
Speaker 1: guy even a starter? And then you get in weird spots.
27:57
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I mean, I have a hard
28:00
Speaker 1: time seeing it. I think good gms would not draft
28:03
Speaker 1: this guy in the first round. Could be wrong. Maybe
28:05
Speaker 1: a good team ends up taking them. But where I'm
28:08
Speaker 1: sitting based on what I've seen to me historically, like
28:12
Speaker 1: he's a Day three pick. Some other stories around the NFL.
28:17
Speaker 1: You know, I think sometimes this back to the JSN thing.
28:20
Speaker 1: These contracts, they're very they're confusing, and we had learned
28:24
Speaker 1: Travis Kelce signed like a one year twelve million deal
28:26
Speaker 1: with the chances to win fifty or make fifteen million,
28:29
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it comes out today
28:31
Speaker 1: he got three years like fifty plus million dollars. I
28:33
Speaker 1: don't think the guarantees of the contract changed, like they're
28:36
Speaker 1: guaranteeing them one year a lot like Mike Evans. It
28:39
Speaker 1: was like Mike Evans got three years sixty million dollars.
28:41
Speaker 1: It turns out he got one year sixteen million. The
28:44
Speaker 1: reason you give a multi year contract is because of
28:47
Speaker 1: the signing bonus and the guaranteed money. The money that
28:49
Speaker 1: you pay up front you can amortize over the course
28:52
Speaker 1: of the life of the deal, and even if the
28:54
Speaker 1: guy retires or you cut him, you can push the
28:57
Speaker 1: money back and manipulate the salary cap. So I think
29:01
Speaker 1: we make a bigger deal over sometimes when these numbers
29:04
Speaker 1: come out, like the big numbers are the big numbers,
29:07
Speaker 1: like Jalen Phillips. The Panthers are in bed with him
29:09
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, Like, they're gonna need him
29:11
Speaker 1: to be good if there. If he's not, it would
29:14
Speaker 1: blow up in their face. Right, Remember when the Buffalo
29:17
Speaker 1: Bills gave von Miller a bunch of money after he
29:20
Speaker 1: had won. He had been on the Super Bowl team
29:23
Speaker 1: with the La Rams and like he had a sack
29:26
Speaker 1: in every playoff game. He looked really good and then
29:29
Speaker 1: it just he got injured for him and it was
29:30
Speaker 1: a disaster. I mean, they were carrying a number for
29:32
Speaker 1: him last year, Like he got to be very careful
29:35
Speaker 1: with that with the signing bonuses and guaranteed money. But
29:39
Speaker 1: I think the Kelsey thing is more like for show
29:45
Speaker 1: than it is in reality the impact of what it's
29:48
Speaker 1: gonna do to like their books. One thing that I
29:50
Speaker 1: found kind of interesting and listen, I'm buddies with Daniel
29:53
Speaker 1: Jeremiah will have to have him on over the next
29:55
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, is you know NFL network. It's crazy.
29:59
Speaker 1: I maybe I'm the wrong person ass, but historically I've
30:05
Speaker 1: watched a lot of NFL Network. I used to watch
30:07
Speaker 1: back when I was living in the Bay, a lot
30:09
Speaker 1: of NBA TV. I watch a ton of Golf channel.
30:13
Speaker 1: I mean a ton of Golf channel. But the reality
30:16
Speaker 1: is these networks don't do that well. Now the NFL
30:19
Speaker 1: network carry some games. NBA TV, I don't even know
30:21
Speaker 1: if NBA TV is still around used to carry games.
30:24
Speaker 1: Golf Channel carries events on Thursday and Friday and sometimes
30:28
Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday on the weekends, so they have some
30:32
Speaker 1: inventory of the sport. But a lot of it is
30:35
Speaker 1: like people talking bs and hanging out right, and for
30:39
Speaker 1: whatever reason, they don't do that well. And part of
30:41
Speaker 1: it is the cord cutting, and you know, habits have changed.
30:44
Speaker 1: But I've always been a consumer, Like throughout the course
30:47
Speaker 1: of my life, I was right down their wheelhouse. I
30:50
Speaker 1: was like, if I would have liked tennis, I probably
30:51
Speaker 1: would have watched Tennis channel. I like individual channels on
30:55
Speaker 1: the sport, even if some of their stuff stupid. I'm
30:58
Speaker 1: not really getting up watch a good Morning Football though.
31:01
Speaker 1: I like Schreeger and Kyle Brandt, But like I think
31:04
Speaker 1: they've they've tried to do good programming, but it hasn't worked,
31:07
Speaker 1: and they offloaded it. The NFL wanted out of the business,
31:09
Speaker 1: and disneylands it, and now there's been a lot of
31:12
Speaker 1: talk of like, you know, what's gonna happen the other
31:14
Speaker 1: stories about rap sheets contract being up. It's like, is
31:17
Speaker 1: ESPN gonna want schefter and rap sheet or Schefter is like,
31:21
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to grind my whole life.
31:23
Speaker 1: I'm almost sixty years old. I want to be breaking
31:25
Speaker 1: stories for the next twenty years. I want to spend
31:27
Speaker 1: time with my family. So who knows how it all
31:29
Speaker 1: plays out, but for an office Sports reported that the
31:33
Speaker 1: NFL network this year is gonna carry the draft like normal,
31:36
Speaker 1: because I was like, what's gonna happen here? So ESPN
31:39
Speaker 1: will have their draft coverage, McAfee will have draft coverage,
31:42
Speaker 1: and the NFL network will have draft coverage. But I
31:45
Speaker 1: think there's a chance this is the last year that
31:47
Speaker 1: the NFL network like it does now ever, just has
31:50
Speaker 1: its own draft coverage with Rich Eyes and Daniel Jeremiah,
31:53
Speaker 1: Charles Davis kind of that crew. Now, they've kind of
31:56
Speaker 1: been cross pollinating over the course of the last couple
31:58
Speaker 1: of years. You know, Klatt's been doing some stuff. But
32:01
Speaker 1: I would get ready for this all to be under
32:05
Speaker 1: the one umbrella in twenty twenty seven and they can
32:08
Speaker 1: utilize NFL Network for preseason games and other stuff. I
32:11
Speaker 1: don't think the channel's going away. But I was always
32:14
Speaker 1: a fan of like going back and forth, going back
32:17
Speaker 1: to when DJ first got the gig with Mayok to
32:20
Speaker 1: when Gruden used to be on the booth screaming about
32:22
Speaker 1: Johnny football. I think we are headed toward and this
32:27
Speaker 1: is just kind of the way society works of just
32:29
Speaker 1: like one like one version, it's just gonna be one desk. Now.
32:34
Speaker 1: I think McAfee will always have his thing going because
32:36
Speaker 1: it's a different vibe. But I don't think that rich
32:39
Speaker 1: Eisen going up against I don't even know Rhys Davis
32:42
Speaker 1: who have Greenberg. Maybe rich Eisen just goes into that
32:46
Speaker 1: seat and starts hosting on ESPN in twenty twenty seven
32:50
Speaker 1: with Daniel Jeremiah melkiper some version of that. But I
32:56
Speaker 1: think we should enjoy it while we have it, because
32:58
Speaker 1: we don't have it from a longer. One story I
33:01
Speaker 1: found pretty interesting. I didn't know much about this guy,
33:04
Speaker 1: Owen Heinike linebacker for Oklahoma. He went to the Combine
33:08
Speaker 1: and worked out, and he is currently suing the NCAA
33:14
Speaker 1: for a year of eligibility stories. Pretty interesting. Started his
33:17
Speaker 1: career in twenty twenty one at Ohio State, but he
33:20
Speaker 1: didn't play football. He played lacrosse that he transferred Oklahoma,
33:24
Speaker 1: where he redshirted in twenty two, played twenty three, twenty four,
33:28
Speaker 1: twenty five, And you know, goes, I've only played three
33:32
Speaker 1: years of football that one year of lacrosse, so he's
33:35
Speaker 1: basically suing for that one year of lacrosse not to count,
33:38
Speaker 1: which doesn't necessarily bother me. I was like, yeah, I'm
33:41
Speaker 1: not gonna get caught up in that. I have no
33:42
Speaker 1: problem hope he wins. I've always said this, though, you
33:46
Speaker 1: should be able to if you do have the eligibility,
33:49
Speaker 1: go to the combine, go through the process and see, like,
33:54
Speaker 1: let that thing play out. And then after it's like, hey,
33:57
Speaker 1: you know, we told you were gonna be a second
33:59
Speaker 1: round pick. Maybe you're going to be a fourth round
34:00
Speaker 1: pick or vice versa. We thought you were gonna be
34:04
Speaker 1: a third day pick, but I think you're a locked
34:06
Speaker 1: second rounder now. And I think that can influence the
34:09
Speaker 1: decision on guys, because there used to be that rule
34:12
Speaker 1: of the hard date either the middle of the end
34:14
Speaker 1: of January or essentially you had to declared for the
34:16
Speaker 1: draft and there was no turning back. Well, now that
34:19
Speaker 1: the NCAA has little to note juice. I think we
34:22
Speaker 1: need to rethink this, and I think there's been some
34:26
Speaker 1: change over the course of the last couple of years.
34:28
Speaker 1: But I would just have a pure get as many
34:30
Speaker 1: people to the combine as possible, even if guys are like,
34:33
Speaker 1: you know, I'm probably not gonna come out, go there
34:36
Speaker 1: and maybe you can hurt, you know, improve your stock,
34:39
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you can turn around. Now
34:41
Speaker 1: college coaches wouldn't love this because you get a guy's like, hey,
34:44
Speaker 1: we think we're keeping this guy. All of a sudden
34:46
Speaker 1: he goes from a fifth rounder like hey, you're gonna
34:48
Speaker 1: go on the second day of the draft, It's like,
34:49
Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm out. And even with the nil so,
34:52
Speaker 1: I I would imagine the way everything has been going
34:57
Speaker 1: that Owen Heinike will be back at Opa Lahoma and
35:00
Speaker 1: then potentially next year have another good season and being
35:03
Speaker 1: the NFL in two years. Okay, before we died for
35:06
Speaker 1: the mailbag, this segment is change of Scenery sponsored by
35:12
Speaker 1: my friends at Toyota. And I saw Michael Pittman, who
35:17
Speaker 1: I actually think twofold. I think the way he plays
35:22
Speaker 1: is perfect for Pittsburgh was just traded this offseason from
35:25
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts after they gave Pierce the big deal
35:28
Speaker 1: and two. I've seen a lot of guys like Michael Pittman.
35:30
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's these guys like to a tee,
35:33
Speaker 1: but it does feel that Mike McCarthy has had a
35:37
Speaker 1: lot of wide receivers that played in his style. You know,
35:41
Speaker 1: going back to Jordan Nelson, you know, DeVante is different,
35:43
Speaker 1: but just a big, physical guy, good route runner, great
35:48
Speaker 1: at the point of you know, the catch point in
35:50
Speaker 1: terms of making contested catches. I know he's had a
35:53
Speaker 1: down year and some of my friends in the league
35:55
Speaker 1: think he's slipping a little bit. I would expect for
35:57
Speaker 1: him to have a bounce back season. I like their duo,
36:01
Speaker 1: you know, Pittman and DK Metcalf, like pretty good one
36:05
Speaker 1: two combination. Really probably two two's, but like that's solid,
36:09
Speaker 1: you know, with the tight ends. If they can somehow
36:12
Speaker 1: figure out the running back. Caleb Johnson, the running back
36:14
Speaker 1: they drafted from Iowa, who's disaster last year. I liked
36:17
Speaker 1: him in college, but maybe I was wrong. Problem is
36:21
Speaker 1: they don't have a quarterback and Pittman today I saw
36:25
Speaker 1: some quotes saying like, hey, I'm giving Rogers a space
36:28
Speaker 1: he can still play. We still want him, but I
36:31
Speaker 1: have not talked to him, and I think sometimes this situation.
36:37
Speaker 1: Last year, I got it like you just left the Jets,
36:40
Speaker 1: you were cut for the first time, but now you're
36:43
Speaker 1: kind of putting this team unless there's some handshake deal
36:46
Speaker 1: under the table, like what are we waiting for? And
36:50
Speaker 1: I would imagine that you make this trade, you either
36:55
Speaker 1: are pretty confident he's coming back if you're the Steelers,
36:57
Speaker 1: because you don't acquire another wide receiver when you have
37:00
Speaker 1: no quarterback. Right even last year, I thought it was
37:03
Speaker 1: like you're gonna acquire DK Metcalf, you don't have a quarterback.
37:05
Speaker 1: But I think there was a little bit of another
37:07
Speaker 1: the table deal. I don't know if there is this year,
37:10
Speaker 1: watching Aaron a couple of weeks ago go on McAfee,
37:13
Speaker 1: but I think if if you get any feeling that
37:18
Speaker 1: he's not coming back, you got to pull the trigger
37:20
Speaker 1: in trade for one of these backups, whether it's McKee
37:24
Speaker 1: with the Eagles, who, according to reports, how he wants
37:29
Speaker 1: a second round pick, whether it's Tyson with the Bears, which,
37:32
Speaker 1: according to reports, the Bears would like a second day pick,
37:35
Speaker 1: so they're not giving these backups away. Same thing with
37:38
Speaker 1: Mac Jones. You need a starting quarterback. You can't have
37:41
Speaker 1: these two wide receivers, this bunch of guys on defense
37:43
Speaker 1: making a lot of money and no quarterback. What's the
37:45
Speaker 1: point in acquiring Michael Pittman if you got no one
37:48
Speaker 1: to throw to them? So I think the change of
37:50
Speaker 1: scenery for Michael Pittman. I like the fit with McCarthy,
37:54
Speaker 1: Like if you would have told me you would have
37:56
Speaker 1: added Pittman when McCarthy wasn't Dallas, this is awesome, Like
37:59
Speaker 1: this is a good He likes these type players, but
38:03
Speaker 1: got to get someone to throw them the ball. So
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39:17
Speaker 1: let's bang out some mailbag questions at John Middlecoff. At
39:20
Speaker 1: John Middlecoff, is the Instagram fire in those dms very
39:25
Speaker 1: easy to get involved in the show. Do you have
39:28
Speaker 1: a way too early AFC playoff prediction? Think about it? Chiefs, Chargers, Broncos, Bills, Patriots, Texans, Jacks, Bengals, Ravens.
39:36
Speaker 1: That's nine, not even counting the Steelers and maybe the
39:40
Speaker 1: Colts with a healthy Indiana Jones. What's your way to
39:45
Speaker 1: early seven? Why would go Bills in no order? Bills, Chargers, Denver, Texans, Bengals.
39:58
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs, we just got to know about
39:59
Speaker 1: Patrick health. I think they would be a major if
40:03
Speaker 1: you tell me he's healthy, I think they'd go right
40:05
Speaker 1: back in with a good draft. So I think the Jags.
40:10
Speaker 1: I mean, they lost some players in free agency. ETN
40:13
Speaker 1: was big for them. This Travis Hunter thing, how's that
40:16
Speaker 1: gonna play out? Like? Could they trade Brian Thomas during
40:19
Speaker 1: the draft, like their coaching staff, like their head coach.
40:23
Speaker 1: So I'm not at they don't have the first round
40:25
Speaker 1: pick this year because of the trade they made last year.
40:28
Speaker 1: But to me, the Ravens and the Jags, I got
40:31
Speaker 1: some questions. Ravens obviously from a personnel standpoint, lost a
40:35
Speaker 1: bunch of players, got a brand new coaching staff. And
40:38
Speaker 1: the Jags like, Okay, now you're kind of the hunted,
40:41
Speaker 1: you know, last year they kind of got to be
40:43
Speaker 1: the hunter, fly under the radar a little bit. I
40:45
Speaker 1: think it's a little bit different when everyone's gunning for you.
40:48
Speaker 1: So I would say the Bills, Chargers, Broncos liked them
40:52
Speaker 1: a lot. Texans really liked them. If CJ can just
40:55
Speaker 1: kind of find his stride, I gotta know who the
41:00
Speaker 1: Steelers quarterback is the Pats, I don't know. I mean,
41:06
Speaker 1: I they're gonna be solid because again, they got good coaches,
41:10
Speaker 1: but the schedule was so easy last year. Who's he
41:16
Speaker 1: throwing to? I think the AFC is pretty open like,
41:20
Speaker 1: this is a this is if you're Josh Allen and
41:22
Speaker 1: the Bills, like time is now, if you're Jim Harbaugh
41:25
Speaker 1: and the Chargers, time is now. It's why Denver just
41:28
Speaker 1: traded for Jalen Wata because like, we can win it now.
41:32
Speaker 1: Still salty never answered my dumb aunt and Edwards question,
41:35
Speaker 1: I did I think I said he'd played tight end.
41:39
Speaker 1: Could a hypothetical billionaire and Niners fan buy Seattle and
41:43
Speaker 1: tank their franchise? Or would the NFL step in? The
41:46
Speaker 1: Allen family would have to sign off, so the billionaire
41:49
Speaker 1: would have to be undercover. Why would you spend You'd
41:54
Speaker 1: have to be so filthy rich to spend ten eleven,
41:59
Speaker 1: twelve billion dollars to ruin the team. The whole fun
42:03
Speaker 1: of the team or to make any big purchase is
42:06
Speaker 1: to be in charge and win, like why would you?
42:10
Speaker 1: And the other thing is this is a gig that
42:14
Speaker 1: you are a very public figure. So local radio, national
42:20
Speaker 1: radio podcasts, you know, the athletic bloggers, all sorts of
42:27
Speaker 1: people that talk about football would start shitting on you. You know,
42:32
Speaker 1: ask Jimmy Haslam what it's like in Cleveland. It ain't fun.
42:36
Speaker 1: It's way more fun to be like, we love this guy,
42:39
Speaker 1: Like what this is awesome? So, I I guess in
42:43
Speaker 1: a hypothetical world, sure, but that's I don't see that
42:47
Speaker 1: happening now the JSN is extended, who do you think
42:51
Speaker 1: ends up with a bigger deal him or Puka? Given
42:54
Speaker 1: his bit of a meathead? Do you think the Rams
42:57
Speaker 1: have hesitation about handing out I say this earlier that
43:02
Speaker 1: I just think that it's there's more risk there than
43:05
Speaker 1: jays N. There's more risk there than obviously justin Jefferson.
43:10
Speaker 1: It just it's one of those where you're thinking about
43:12
Speaker 1: it and anytime there are some guys like you don't
43:15
Speaker 1: even think about it, like what's the cost? Boom pine Sewel,
43:18
Speaker 1: this is what it costs? Right? You know you just
43:22
Speaker 1: get great players in them. I'm trying to think of
43:24
Speaker 1: like all time great players, uh in their prime right
43:28
Speaker 1: now that you just Jamar Chase pine Sewell, you know
43:31
Speaker 1: the Eagles with DeVante Smith. There are certain players it's like, okay,
43:35
Speaker 1: this is a cost, Pam or let's get in front
43:38
Speaker 1: of it, ceedee Lamb. You know Jerry always waited, but
43:42
Speaker 1: typically Michael Parsons. Uh. So I think that I don't
43:48
Speaker 1: know my guess would be they end up just paying them, right,
43:52
Speaker 1: because I do think it's risky. They're in win now mode.
43:55
Speaker 1: They're trying to win the super Bowl this year. That
43:59
Speaker 1: if you just make him play out another season on
44:02
Speaker 1: the fourth year of his rookie deal, does that fuck
44:05
Speaker 1: him up mentally if you're gonna do that when you
44:09
Speaker 1: just trade him now? But the problem is they want them,
44:11
Speaker 1: so I don't know. I don't have a great feel
44:14
Speaker 1: for that one. They're pretty quiet about it, you know,
44:18
Speaker 1: And when their stories coming out that he's gonna have
44:21
Speaker 1: to wait a minute, I think that shows you they're
44:24
Speaker 1: working this. They're workshopping this thing as they should. I mean,
44:28
Speaker 1: when you're talking these huge numbers, you better feel pretty confident, right,
44:33
Speaker 1: you better feel pretty confident clearly. You know, the Cowboys,
44:38
Speaker 1: for example, bizarre operation because of Jerry, but he's like, listen,
44:45
Speaker 1: I think they'd be the first tell you Mike is
44:48
Speaker 1: a freak talent. He's a special pass rusher. But him
44:52
Speaker 1: getting fifteen sacks for us ain't gonna lead us to
44:55
Speaker 1: the super Bowl and giving them all this money when
44:56
Speaker 1: we're already paying Dak and CD and we're gonna eventually
44:59
Speaker 1: have to pay some of these other guys doesn't make
45:02
Speaker 1: that much sense. It actually makes more sense if we
45:04
Speaker 1: can turn him into some first round picks and hit
45:07
Speaker 1: those picks. So there was some logic behind it, right,
45:11
Speaker 1: even if you disagree, like the whole point of a
45:13
Speaker 1: draft is to draft of Michael Parsons then extend him.
45:16
Speaker 1: The problem is Jerry had built the top heavy team
45:19
Speaker 1: and their defense was so shitty that they had to pivot.
45:24
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to justify it because I think Mike,
45:28
Speaker 1: I mean, there were times this year even maybe I
45:30
Speaker 1: underestimated him a little bit. I don't think he's a
45:34
Speaker 1: perfect player by any means. But when you're that elite
45:36
Speaker 1: as a pass rusher, you know, and you're on a
45:39
Speaker 1: team that's winning a lot, which the Packers would have
45:41
Speaker 1: been up until he got injured, your value is extremely high.
45:47
Speaker 1: Question for the pod TB twelve looked pretty good playing
45:50
Speaker 1: flag football. He's now forty eight, it has been out
45:53
Speaker 1: of the league for three years. Do you think he'd
45:55
Speaker 1: have another Super Bowl by now if he had never
45:58
Speaker 1: stopped playing. It's a good question. The one movie made
46:03
Speaker 1: where he juked out the dude and threw the dime.
46:06
Speaker 1: Listen Dan Marino can still throw a dot. I bet
46:09
Speaker 1: Farv can still throw a ninety five million hour fastball.
46:12
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is gonna throw a beautiful ball until he's
46:16
Speaker 1: seventy years old. Definitely in his sixties, no problem. I
46:21
Speaker 1: do think the way Tom plays is he couldn't move.
46:26
Speaker 1: So one thing that's hard to happen in Tampa is
46:30
Speaker 1: like he didn't really want to get hit. So do
46:33
Speaker 1: I still think that Tom right now? If you could
46:35
Speaker 1: block form in a given game in like you know,
46:38
Speaker 1: river style, could throw you three or four touchdowns and
46:41
Speaker 1: win you a football game. Obviously, could win you a
46:44
Speaker 1: playoff game. Could he do the course of a season? Though,
46:49
Speaker 1: Because if you don't want to get hit, it's really
46:52
Speaker 1: hard to play when that's your style of sitting in
46:54
Speaker 1: the pocket, especially now there's less good offensive lines, there's
46:58
Speaker 1: more pass rushers. It's inevitable you're gonna get hit. So
47:01
Speaker 1: I think that's the problem. Do I think he can
47:05
Speaker 1: still throw dots on a post route or the timing
47:07
Speaker 1: on an out route, or chain shit the line of
47:10
Speaker 1: scrimmage and gets you into the right like he could die.
47:13
Speaker 1: He's playing everyone's playing checkers, he's playing chess. I just
47:18
Speaker 1: think that that last year in Tampa, like he wanted
47:21
Speaker 1: no part of getting hit. Even Rogers this year and
47:24
Speaker 1: again he had a broken hand. You can just tell it, like,
47:26
Speaker 1: do I want to get crushed right now? I'm worth
47:29
Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars. I've already a champion, My
47:32
Speaker 1: legacy's already set. It sucks all of a sudden, Danille
47:36
Speaker 1: Hunter's coming around the edge. You're like, what am I doing?
47:40
Speaker 1: There's a question about Kelsey. I saw the he signed
47:42
Speaker 1: the three year, fifty four million dollars deal. Is the
47:44
Speaker 1: Chiefs getting caught up in nostalgia? There's no way he
47:47
Speaker 1: plays three more years again, I said this earlier. It's
47:49
Speaker 1: about the extension of pushing the money down. You're just
47:54
Speaker 1: manipulating the salary cap. That's all I think modern day
47:59
Speaker 1: football is for the good teams manipulating the cap. I mean,
48:03
Speaker 1: that's that's all it is with contracts, manipulating as much
48:08
Speaker 1: as humanly possible, and pray that it doesn't bite you
48:10
Speaker 1: in the ass. I was listening to talk about the
48:13
Speaker 1: NC DOUBLEA and how NIL has changed the game for
48:15
Speaker 1: the big schools to get high end players. It seems
48:19
Speaker 1: the new quote diamond in the rough is getting the
48:22
Speaker 1: new suite coach, like Indie with Signetti. Even in the NFL,
48:26
Speaker 1: like Cohen with the Jacks, how do coaches find quote
48:30
Speaker 1: diamond in the rough. Well, the difference in college than
48:36
Speaker 1: the pros is, like Liam Cohen's a good example in
48:40
Speaker 1: the NFL. If I sign you to whatever, a four
48:45
Speaker 1: or five year contract for Liam Cohen, so he gets
48:47
Speaker 1: five years, we'll say, you know, we'll say he got
48:50
Speaker 1: six or seven million dollars. It's not like he's making
48:52
Speaker 1: Andy Reid money. He's never been a head coach. A
48:54
Speaker 1: year in you're like, god, we got a gym, right,
48:57
Speaker 1: we got something special. In college, Liam Cohen, all these
49:02
Speaker 1: other colleges would have been trying to get his services,
49:05
Speaker 1: like Kenny Dillingham with ASU. All of a sudden, Michigan's
49:09
Speaker 1: like he has to turn them down. He has to
49:12
Speaker 1: turn down, like LSU's calling him, Florida's calling him. In
49:16
Speaker 1: the pros, you don't have to worry about that. Once
49:19
Speaker 1: you got a guy, you just kind of keep them.
49:21
Speaker 1: As long as you're winning, he's gonna stay and you
49:23
Speaker 1: just extend him in college, like Signetti is a gem
49:26
Speaker 1: and he's a dominant coach. They pay him thirteen million dollars.
49:29
Speaker 1: He's a highest paed coach in the country, so they
49:32
Speaker 1: had to pay him a premium and do a good
49:34
Speaker 1: job building around him. So the difference in college is
49:37
Speaker 1: like coaches can leave. In the pros, you're kind of
49:41
Speaker 1: stuck if it's going well, Like Liam Cohen can't just
49:44
Speaker 1: pimp out his services. Last year, when Kevin O'Connell wanted
49:48
Speaker 1: to raise he had to go through Glazer to be
49:51
Speaker 1: like teams might trade for him. It's like, well, the
49:54
Speaker 1: Vikings would have to trade him, which clearly they're not
49:57
Speaker 1: gonna do. But why did he why did that story
50:00
Speaker 1: come out? He wanted a big race in college, Kevin O'Connell.
50:04
Speaker 1: The equivalent would have been like Michigan's offering their head job,
50:07
Speaker 1: Florida's offering him the head job, and they would have
50:09
Speaker 1: to give him a race. Happens all the time in college,
50:12
Speaker 1: so there are more variables in college with that. Obviously,
50:17
Speaker 1: everyone just wants the best coach possible. In the pros,
50:20
Speaker 1: in the NBA, in the NFL, if you get the
50:23
Speaker 1: right coach, you just keep them in. In college, if
50:29
Speaker 1: you're not Ohio State or Oregon or something, and even Oregon,
50:32
Speaker 1: it's like Dan Lanning had to be like listen, I
50:35
Speaker 1: don't want to leave, and like Alabama's interested in him.
50:38
Speaker 1: If he had wanted to go, he could have. So
50:42
Speaker 1: that's something that college you don't or in pros you
50:46
Speaker 1: don't need to mess with. And just because you leave
50:49
Speaker 1: doesn't mean the grass is always greener. But like Matt
50:53
Speaker 1: Campbell at Iowa State, if that was the NFL, like
50:59
Speaker 1: you know, whoever, they they don't have to worry about
51:02
Speaker 1: him leaving two Penn State, Ben Johnson is just their coach.
51:08
Speaker 1: Question for the bag. I'm twenty five years old. I'm
51:11
Speaker 1: set to have my first child in June. Congratulations Casey
51:16
Speaker 1: a boy having jacket forty? Are there any life lessons
51:20
Speaker 1: that you've learned since you were twenty five that helped
51:23
Speaker 1: you prepare for fatherhood? Also, we live right next to Tennessee,
51:28
Speaker 1: where I went to college, and I'm curious, is Tie
51:32
Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the draft behind Mendoza? Is he
51:35
Speaker 1: better than Pavia and Aguilar? I talked to a scouting
51:38
Speaker 1: buddy today. Actually, I was in the car picking up
51:41
Speaker 1: my mother in law that I flew her out this
51:44
Speaker 1: week because My guy Jack is just he sees sleep
51:49
Speaker 1: as the enemy. And you can follow any procedure, any
51:53
Speaker 1: book or podcast on ways to train sleep. But for
51:57
Speaker 1: this nine week old, he beats to his own drum.
52:01
Speaker 1: And it has been Navy seal training around here. Someone
52:05
Speaker 1: asked me recently, you know preparing, like, is it crazier
52:09
Speaker 1: than what you thought about. I'll be honest, I didn't
52:12
Speaker 1: really think much about it. I just I mean, I
52:15
Speaker 1: always wanted children. I just had to meet the right
52:18
Speaker 1: person and be stable in my life and be in
52:21
Speaker 1: a position where I could do it. But I never
52:23
Speaker 1: thought about what it was actually gonna be. Like most
52:26
Speaker 1: of my friends or brothers, you're around their kids, but
52:30
Speaker 1: you're not like every single day when they're infants, right
52:34
Speaker 1: or young babies. It is just that there is no preparation, really,
52:38
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, in the life, lesson stuff
52:41
Speaker 1: about you know, what you're gonna teach them stuff you're
52:47
Speaker 1: not even You're just trying to get them not to cry,
52:50
Speaker 1: you know, and not to burn, you know, try to
52:53
Speaker 1: get them to burp so they can lay on their
52:54
Speaker 1: back and go to sleep. It's I think that stuff
52:58
Speaker 1: is at least for me, me more as you get older,
53:03
Speaker 1: which I would say, my core values and morals haven't
53:08
Speaker 1: changed since I was like in high school. I would
53:11
Speaker 1: say the one thing that I am way more natal.
53:15
Speaker 1: I was very selfish, you know. I think all I
53:19
Speaker 1: cared about in my twenties and even through my early
53:22
Speaker 1: thirties were like myself, my own ambitions, what I had
53:26
Speaker 1: to do. I didn't think of other people. And as
53:30
Speaker 1: you get older, as you know, a good woman comes
53:33
Speaker 1: in your life, you know, you you just get more
53:37
Speaker 1: perspective on like things are bigger than yourself, that don't
53:41
Speaker 1: be so caught up in your own world, because most
53:44
Speaker 1: people don't give a shit. So I would say that
53:48
Speaker 1: trying to think of others, including my wife going through
53:52
Speaker 1: this is something I try to think a lot about.
53:55
Speaker 1: One piece of advice that I sectually saw on Instagram,
54:00
Speaker 1: which I trust me we've I haven't followed this to
54:04
Speaker 1: a tee, but when you're up at three am with
54:08
Speaker 1: the baby, don't speak. Yeah, just just don't speak to
54:14
Speaker 1: each other because typically the conversations you're tired. It's just
54:19
Speaker 1: it's not a happy environment. That would be my recommendation.
54:23
Speaker 1: I saw that on an Instagram reel one time. It's
54:26
Speaker 1: like piece of advice is for new baby three am.
54:29
Speaker 1: Keep quiet now again, I've been guilty of saying things
54:32
Speaker 1: because you're just not even thinking straight, you're pissed off,
54:35
Speaker 1: you're just in the middle of the night time. You'd
54:37
Speaker 1: never be up. Don't say anything, but I would say,
54:43
Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna have a you know, much different twenties,
54:46
Speaker 1: late twenties than myself. Just think of other people think
54:51
Speaker 1: of her, but I didn't. I wouldn't have learned that,
54:55
Speaker 1: you know, up until now. And then the thing you're
55:00
Speaker 1: gonna teach a child, I think you just teach him
55:02
Speaker 1: as they get older and they can communicate and they
55:04
Speaker 1: can remember, you know. So I'm not in that face.
55:08
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get him to you know, I
55:11
Speaker 1: don't even know not shit all over me. The Patriots
55:17
Speaker 1: reached the Super Bowl after spending the GDP of a
55:19
Speaker 1: small nation on free agency last offseason. Do you think
55:23
Speaker 1: the Panthers can make a similar type leap after signing
55:26
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips, Devin Lloyd or Shehe Walker. I think it's
55:32
Speaker 1: safe to say two things can be true. They overpaid
55:36
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips, like they paid him more money than his
55:40
Speaker 1: profile and resume would say he was worth. But when
55:43
Speaker 1: you make it a free agency, you got to pay
55:46
Speaker 1: a premium and essentially like a tax to acquire guys
55:51
Speaker 1: that other teams would want. But I also think they
55:54
Speaker 1: need them and if he can just be a productive
55:57
Speaker 1: pass rusher for them, it's this isn't an apples to
56:01
Speaker 1: apples situation, but I remember people like guys gave him
56:05
Speaker 1: a lot of money. He traded a high pick for
56:07
Speaker 1: Brian Burns, like you watch Brian Burns for the Giants.
56:09
Speaker 1: Like that guy could play for any team if Jalen
56:12
Speaker 1: Phillips can be that, Like you don't need to be
56:14
Speaker 1: Von Miller in his prime. I don't need to be
56:15
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett. But can you be a guy when people
56:19
Speaker 1: watch TV and watch your team play, be like, I fuck,
56:21
Speaker 1: I want that guy on my squad. It's a gay
56:23
Speaker 1: making a little bit more than I'd like to pay him,
56:25
Speaker 1: But like, that guy's an impact player. He can really
56:27
Speaker 1: rush the passer. If Jalen Phillips can do that. I've
56:30
Speaker 1: like Lloyd since Utah. He obviously had kind of a
56:33
Speaker 1: breakout year last year. Their formula is pretty clear. They
56:40
Speaker 1: don't have Joe Burrow or Patrick Mahomes. He's gonna have
56:43
Speaker 1: to be a game manager. McMillan's a good player. They
56:47
Speaker 1: got some good pieces on the offensive line. They need
56:50
Speaker 1: to have a good defense, and like that formula can
56:54
Speaker 1: win them ten games. He's gonna have some bad games.
56:56
Speaker 1: He's gonna get overwhelmed. He's also gonna have some good games.
57:00
Speaker 1: He's going to be a very up and down player.
57:01
Speaker 1: To me, the question with them big picture because I
57:03
Speaker 1: think next year they could win the division, But like,
57:08
Speaker 1: how do you handle this situation with his contract? Personally
57:12
Speaker 1: pick up the fifth year option and we just play
57:13
Speaker 1: out his entire rookie contract and we'd figure it out
57:16
Speaker 1: from there. But you cannot do the Tua Kyler thing.
57:20
Speaker 1: That's how you get in trouble. Good question, similar question.
57:29
Speaker 1: They's had a very good uh this on the Panthers
57:31
Speaker 1: between seeing what happened to Kyler and Tua not talking
57:36
Speaker 1: contract extension with Bryce yet, could they be setting up
57:39
Speaker 1: to be the first team to tell a quarterback this
57:42
Speaker 1: is the number we think you're worth, rather than just
57:44
Speaker 1: picking the number up with the quarterback scale. Build a
57:50
Speaker 1: great team that could succeed with Bryce or the next
57:54
Speaker 1: reclamation project. My question is this, do you want to
58:00
Speaker 1: give him a contract extension? Like let's say, hey, Bryce,
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Speaker 1: we think you're worth like three years seventy million dollars.
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Speaker 1: Do you want to give him three years seventy million dollars?
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Speaker 1: Or you like, do we just want this guy for
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Speaker 1: really cheap? My question is do you want to give
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Speaker 1: this guy a contract extension? I could not say right
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Speaker 1: now I feel comfortable doing that now. Again, I'm not
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Speaker 1: like I've watched every Panther snap. I probably watch more
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Speaker 1: bad than good. I know he had some moments in
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Speaker 1: the playoff games, but I wouldn't even be it wouldn't
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Speaker 1: even be on my top of mind. Like the Texans
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Speaker 1: right now, it's like CJ. We want to build around you.
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Speaker 1: We just need to see more. We know you have
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Speaker 1: it in you, but can you play just a different
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Speaker 1: style of football? Like Bryce? I don't even know if
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Speaker 1: he hasn't in him to be like a franchise quarterback.
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Speaker 1: And this you know, technically, this administration, the coach specifically,
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Speaker 1: it's not like he was the guy that drafted him. Okay,
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Speaker 1: when on this forty nine or fan here would you
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Speaker 1: rather have or Brock I would say in twenty six.
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Speaker 1: I'd rather have Brock because, especially for the forty nine ers,
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Speaker 1: there's a athletic element that Dak no longer has. Now,
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Speaker 1: Dak in just a pure passing offense is going to
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Speaker 1: be better than Perty. I mean, part of Purdy's skill
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Speaker 1: set is Kyle's offense. Dak when he played for Mike
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Speaker 1: and now Schottenheimer, there's just like drop back sling it.
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Speaker 1: That's not really Perty's deal. So I think there are
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Speaker 1: skill sets. Dak used to be much more of a
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Speaker 1: hybrid player. He now doesn't move as well, but he's
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Speaker 1: a better I would say, pure pocket passer. He's just taller.
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Speaker 1: He can see that Dak's developed into a really good player.
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Speaker 1: Perty has a element of his athleticism that's a huge,
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Speaker 1: huge addition to the forty nine ers because beside Trent Williams,
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Speaker 1: they're not exactly you know, a bunch of all pros
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Speaker 1: up front, so they need him to move around and
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Speaker 1: he does really well. Dak couldn't do that for the night.
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Speaker 1: He could when he was younger. You know, if you
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Speaker 1: would have got Dak, or if Dak would have got
1:00:04
Speaker 1: with a guy like Kyle, you know, or you know
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Speaker 1: in La floor Kevin O'Connell or McVeigh when he was
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Speaker 1: young in that offense, I think he would have been
1:00:13
Speaker 1: could have had a lot of success. He's had a
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Speaker 1: lot of success, but I just wonder if his playoff
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Speaker 1: resume would have looked a little differently. He's obviously had
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Speaker 1: a really good career. I'm much higher on Dak now
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Speaker 1: than I was early in his career. I know, I
1:00:27
Speaker 1: know he's had a rough stretch there of the playoff games,
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Speaker 1: but I definitely think he's good enough to have playoff moments.
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Speaker 1: They just haven't really come in the big spots. I
1:00:36
Speaker 1: know he had the one game against Tampa when they
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Speaker 1: were terrible, But I would say I would say it
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Speaker 1: like this if the Cowboys, and obviously money and contracts
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Speaker 1: are complicated, if Jerry Jones called Kyle and John and
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Speaker 1: said Dak for Purdy or vice versa, I think they
1:00:55
Speaker 1: both just say no. I don't think the forty nine
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Speaker 1: ers would trade Brock Purty for Dak Prescott, and I
1:00:59
Speaker 1: don't think the Cowboys would trade Dak Prescott for Brock Party.
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Speaker 1: So it's one of those It's like they're kind of
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Speaker 1: in the same spot, right, They're in the same world.
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Speaker 1: They're not in that upper tier. They're better than the
1:01:11
Speaker 1: majority of guys, and they both have a little bit
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Speaker 1: different of a skill set. But I like both guys.
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Speaker 1: I'm higher on Brocked and guys like Colin, and I'm
1:01:23
Speaker 1: higher on Dacked than people that think he's overrated. He
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Speaker 1: makes a lot right but uh, it's Jerry for you audios.
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Speaker 1: Talk to you tomorrow. The volume