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  Speaker 1: This is the report.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight expose the real agenda of the ugly protests trying
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  Speaker 2: to disrupt Paul and Hnsen's rally right now and why
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  Speaker 2: the ABC is in danger from Gina Ronhart after screening
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  Speaker 2: of ole attack on her. And wait until you hear
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  Speaker 2: what Olympic great Dawn Fraser said in Rohinehart's defence of
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  Speaker 2: the language plus anything they have an easy today breaks
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  Speaker 2: yet another promise?
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  Speaker 1: When will it stop?
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  Speaker 2: And of course why this invasion of illegal immigrants who
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  Speaker 2: Spanish City have terrified, has terrified the West. But first,
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  Speaker 2: it's been a very big day for One Nation and
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  Speaker 2: a bad one for the Albanizi government. It's not just
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  Speaker 2: at the latest red Bridge pole shows One Nation back
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  Speaker 2: as the most popular party in Australia ahead of the government.
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  Speaker 2: Look also at the coalition up four points, so some
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  Speaker 2: good news there as well for Conservatives, and how lovely
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  Speaker 2: to see the Greens meanwhile lose nearly a third of
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  Speaker 2: their support. Labour would still probably win on preferences, but
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  Speaker 2: it should now be very worried that it's managing to
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  Speaker 2: throw away the huge majority one just a year ago.
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  Speaker 2: But also significant day where he moves at one Nation
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  Speaker 2: made to become more serious. First, the organizational genius of
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  Speaker 2: One Nation just saw him a few minutes ago. Hanson's
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  Speaker 2: chief of staff, James Ashby, has appointed someone to replace him,
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  Speaker 2: Chris Taylor. tATu's a very impressive hiring. He has been
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  Speaker 2: Chief of Policy of the Australian Banking Association. Before that
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  Speaker 2: was a senior advisor at Prime Minister Scott Morrison. Ashby
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  Speaker 2: himself is going to become my nation's party director, which
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  Speaker 2: his new roles going to be overseeing campaigning around the country,
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  Speaker 2: will play to his particular skills. I mean, this guy's
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  Speaker 2: the best political operator I've ever seen. Not normally I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't bother you with who's who in the party machines,
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  Speaker 2: but this tells you two things. One nation is becoming
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  Speaker 2: a lot more professional with professional operators prepared to bank
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  Speaker 2: the reputation on working for it.
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  Speaker 3: And one nation now has the money to do all that.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: We also saw one nation in Victoria being made more
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  Speaker 2: battle aready today up to a point. Victoria's actually one
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  Speaker 2: Nation's next big test the state election there in less
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  Speaker 2: than four months. If our nation does badly there, that's
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  Speaker 2: really going to hurt its momentum, and you know, the
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  Speaker 2: latest news polt in Victoria did show it to drop
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  Speaker 2: back to the third most popular party in Australia's Readish state,
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  Speaker 2: down to nineteen percent, which is huge for where it
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  Speaker 2: was you know, a couple of years ago, but still
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  Speaker 2: less than what it needs. But as I said last week,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what else do you expect when if Victoria's
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  Speaker 2: had no leader, almost no policies and just one declared candidate. Well,
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  Speaker 2: today Pauline Hanson started to change that. She announced my
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  Speaker 2: nation's leader in Victoria would be former Armory engineer Warren Pickering,
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  Speaker 2: who stood for One Nation in the Senate.
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  Speaker 4: We in tend for this to be November to remember,
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  Speaker 4: and we are contesting to govern.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Hanson also announced the candidates for Victoria's upper House the
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  Speaker 2: Low House ones will be revealed later. The ones today
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  Speaker 2: included a lawyer, an office manager, a geelong counselor Chris Person,
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  Speaker 2: a former premier Daniel Andrews ex bodyguard claims to have
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  Speaker 2: some secrets, and a human resources manager, plus a guest
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  Speaker 2: I'll talk to you in a minute. And there was
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  Speaker 2: also calling a Colleen Harkin who used to be a
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  Speaker 2: member of the Victorian Liberals Administrative Committee, so quite senior
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  Speaker 2: and his director of education Programs at the Institute of
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  Speaker 2: Public Affairs.
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  Speaker 6: I'm very comfortable and confident my core values and my
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  Speaker 6: principles haven't.
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  Speaker 2: Changed, so that's not a bad list. But I think
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  Speaker 2: Hanson will be a bit disappointed it hasn't got a
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  Speaker 2: real star. She actually wanted the Victorian leader to be
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  Speaker 2: the former Chief Minister of the Northern Territory Adam Charles,
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  Speaker 2: now top executive of billionaire Gina Reinaudt, but eventually turned
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  Speaker 2: her down, which might actually be a smart move because
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure that the Rheinhardt links would have helped
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  Speaker 2: in Victoria.
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  Speaker 1: And I have to say that while Warren.
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  Speaker 2: Pickering is a second choice and largely unknown, he did
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  Speaker 2: perform better today than I had expected. He was quite good, actually,
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  Speaker 2: despite sweating a bit from the nerves.
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  Speaker 4: It's not lost and asked the gravity of this undertaking
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  Speaker 4: in Victoria. It's really not. As the boss alluded to.
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  Speaker 4: We are on the precipice of social and economic collapse,
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  Speaker 4: and anybody who doesn't believe that is simply not paying attention.
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  Speaker 4: As starts where you've engaged in a concerted to cultivate
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  Speaker 4: talent from within the community. We are of the firm
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  Speaker 4: belief that it's politicians have got us into this mess,
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  Speaker 4: and we're sure as hell we're not going to leave
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  Speaker 4: it to politicians to get us out. It's also not
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  Speaker 4: lost on us that this is the biggest state campaign
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  Speaker 4: in the party's history, as we contest this election to
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  Speaker 4: govern what is arguably the most fiscally and morally bankrupt
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  Speaker 4: state in Australian history. Now, our primary intention will be
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  Speaker 4: to deliver a policy document that proves to Victorians that
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  Speaker 4: one nation Victoria can govern in its own right, or
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  Speaker 4: at a minimum, become the conservative opposition that's been lacking
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  Speaker 4: in this state for a decade, that has been the
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  Speaker 4: cause of all our woes.
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  Speaker 2: So Yes has been around for a while. So a
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  Speaker 2: workman liked to start today. But it wasn't a barn burner.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't you know. He's a real camera magnet. Apart
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  Speaker 2: from Pauline Hanson, and there's still few policies, but Hanson,
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  Speaker 2: she was on blast.
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  Speaker 7: You have escalating, you have kids on the streets. You've
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  Speaker 7: got you know, sixty two percent breakens, carjacking, fifty eight percent,
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  Speaker 7: you've got the problems with the young youth in the stage.
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  Speaker 7: They haven't been ounver to control. You've got kids that
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  Speaker 7: are dragged through the courts, released on bail to reoffend again.
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  Speaker 7: So you've got a real problem in the stage. That's
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  Speaker 7: why people are not happy with the opposition or the
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  Speaker 7: Labor government. They've allowed it to get to the stage.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Hanson is so correct about feral Melbourne. I mean just
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  Speaker 2: just on the weekend, a bunch of kids out shoplifting
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  Speaker 2: allegedly attacked people that tried to stop them running away.
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  Speaker 1: One of the people that try.
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  Speaker 2: To stop them, a shopkeepers sixty years old, two children,
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  Speaker 2: was allegedly stabbed and is expected to die from MSS
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  Speaker 2: wounds Victoria Today. Hanson also created the headlines today by
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  Speaker 2: banning the ABC and the guard in Australia from a
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  Speaker 2: press conference, as well as the left wing Age. It
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  Speaker 2: turned out a move that will delight her big donor
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  Speaker 2: Gina Reinhardt in a real ABC target another one Hansome too.
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  Speaker 2: Reinhardt was vilified in the film that the ABC showed
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  Speaker 2: fantasizing about sodomizing the billionaire with a stick.
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  Speaker 7: ABC were denied entry into here and The Guardian I'm
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  Speaker 7: not putting up with their rubbish. I'm not putting up
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  Speaker 7: with their spin, their lives whatsoever. I want truth and honesty.
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  Speaker 7: You get it from me, I expect it back from
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  Speaker 7: the media. I'm not putting up with the spin, gotcha moments,
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  Speaker 7: wanting to have a go at me, or I will
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  Speaker 7: treat us totally different to what you do the other
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  Speaker 7: major political parties.
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  Speaker 3: I'm really not so sure about that ban.
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  Speaker 2: Although heaven knows the bias of the ABC and Guardian
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  Speaker 2: in particular, it's just been too marching. Yeah, I look,
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  Speaker 2: I agree they must be made to pay and handsome.
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  Speaker 2: Banning them is another sign of a growing confidence and authority.
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  Speaker 2: Is I mean, journalists are going to grumble about this,
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  Speaker 2: my Nation supporter, so I think we'll cheer. There's a price,
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  Speaker 2: of course, because some voters are going to think that
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  Speaker 2: Hanson is running from scrutiny. But she is of course
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  Speaker 2: undoubtedly correct about Victoria's shocking decline under labor. Yet for
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  Speaker 2: all that, I do think the Coalition's going to keep
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  Speaker 2: the front running there in Victoria. The Coalition will as
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  Speaker 2: Labour's main opposition. One Nation I think left it too
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  Speaker 2: late to put a team in the field left a vacuum.
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  Speaker 2: Still it has finally taken the field and should pick
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  Speaker 2: up seats I think including Labor ones, but nationally at least,
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  Speaker 2: I have to say Hanson's party is becoming so formidable
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  Speaker 2: and even more frightening for Labor and the liberals there
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  Speaker 2: is that their attacks on Hansen just seemed to make
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  Speaker 2: us stronger. The APCs who would have thought that One
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  Speaker 2: Nation were just you know, succeeded like this overcome all
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  Speaker 2: the little setbacks.
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  Speaker 1: That we've been talking about over the last couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 2: People who thought it would burst like a bubble are
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  Speaker 2: facing instead a juggernaut. And I have to say, after
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  Speaker 2: watching Hansen gut the ABC and The Guardian today, the
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  Speaker 2: critics who say her party is just about anger and grievance,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not so sure because I have to admit One
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  Speaker 2: Nation is also just fun to watch, isn't it, as
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  Speaker 2: it finally smites the unrighteous?
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  Speaker 3: Do you know?
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  Speaker 2: It's becoming clearer by the week than the Abdize government
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  Speaker 2: is economically incompetent, especially this week. House prices have been
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  Speaker 2: falling for four months now, with falls in every capital
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  Speaker 2: city except Darwin.
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  Speaker 7: Every capital city except for Darwin is starting to see
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  Speaker 7: consistent price.
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  Speaker 8: Falls the fallout from the federal budget. It's still unraveling it.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, the budget is a big cause of that collapse
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  Speaker 2: in prices, albeit off huge cutting the capital gain, sex
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  Speaker 2: discount cutting, negative gearing moves of the government claimed wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: cut house prices at all, you know, No, it's modeling.
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  Speaker 2: The modeling said house prices would still rise.
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  Speaker 9: Treasury estimates are that there'll be an increase in the
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  Speaker 9: value of homes, but will be slightly lower than it
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  Speaker 9: would have been without these measures.
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  Speaker 2: Instead values dropping for four months already and no sign
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  Speaker 2: of hitting bottom. And today Treasure Jim Trumps was once again,
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  Speaker 2: this's got so much form, blaming everything except this policies
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  Speaker 2: for most of it.
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  Speaker 10: For example, interest rate movements earlier this year, higher fuel
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  Speaker 10: costs that we've been talking about, the heat of confidence
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  Speaker 10: from the war in the Middle East, as well as
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  Speaker 10: changes in the budget, and so all of those things
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  Speaker 10: together are playing a role here.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'd be wondering if the government's models, oh no,
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  Speaker 2: precess won't fall down fall in for houses. Do you
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  Speaker 2: think maybe it's they no good? Because you remember, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Albiniz also claimed to have consultant models more models
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  Speaker 2: that showed disagreen policies will cut your pawerbills for two
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  Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five dollars instead of sending them through
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  Speaker 2: the roof.
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  Speaker 11: I don't think I know. I know because we have
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  Speaker 11: done the modeling. The modeling is available, we're releasing it
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  Speaker 11: here today. That is the average reduction in power prices
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  Speaker 11: from today as a result of the suite of policies
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  Speaker 11: which we're announced.
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  Speaker 3: Those models are pretty shape.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me is Michael Kroger, former President of the Victorian Liberals,
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  Speaker 2: Steve Conroy, formulator, senator and Cabinet minister. Michael, how much
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  Speaker 2: can you blame the government for house prices in Melbourne
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  Speaker 2: and Sydney, especially crashing by four percent or more in
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  Speaker 2: just four months.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I blame them entirely, Andrew. They have no idea
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  Speaker 5: what they're doing. I mean, Jim Charmers, who you know
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  Speaker 5: I've never rated, is now with Jim Cans. He's at
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  Speaker 5: that level of the economic competence. These people have no
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  Speaker 5: idea what they're doing. That's the frightening thing. Tania Plumber
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  Speaker 5: six said this morning, isn't it great? Two hundred and
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  Speaker 5: sixty thousand people have availed themselves with the five percent
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  Speaker 5: deposit scheme and bought a house. Well, she doesn't realize
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  Speaker 5: they've lost the five percent. They've their equity has been
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  Speaker 5: wiped out. Matt Thistleswaet, who's the Assistant minus for Trade,
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  Speaker 5: he's got an economic portfolio, says, says, because people are
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  Speaker 5: making their mortgage payments, there's clearly not a neg of equity.
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  Speaker 5: This guy's got no understanding of basic economics. He's got
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  Speaker 5: It's on the front page of The Australia tonight. This
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  Speaker 5: guy has These people have no understanding. Albow says, Oh,
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  Speaker 5: Treasury tell me this. Why doesn't Albou get out of
• 12:54
  Speaker 5: the way. We cut out the middle man, Andrew and
• 12:56
  Speaker 5: just let Treasury run the country. This bloke's always relying
• 12:59
  Speaker 5: on other people. But what does he know himself? Does
• 13:02
  Speaker 5: he have any skills on knowledge himself? Well, it's always
• 13:05
  Speaker 5: reputects say this. Treasury say that what does he know?
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  Speaker 5: He knows nothing. And they have plunged the housing in
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  Speaker 5: housing in the country into crisis and he's wiped off
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  Speaker 5: hundreds of billions of dollars out of people's assets. Andrew,
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  Speaker 5: and it's going to get.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Stephen, I've heard you snorting and snorting, saying and
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  Speaker 2: laughing and also laughing through that. But just about just
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  Speaker 2: about ten you plivs Stephen, Stephen, just about tenure plivcyt
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  Speaker 2: before I let you have you say. You know, she
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  Speaker 2: was telling us today to look on the bright side.
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  Speaker 2: You know, like nearly twelve million people that own homes,
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  Speaker 2: most of them have seen their house prices fall, but
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  Speaker 2: don't worry. You know, like a quarter of a million
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  Speaker 2: young Australians they're okay because they can by in a
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  Speaker 2: property if they can actually find one anymore.
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  Speaker 6: He she is not in my lifetime has there been
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  Speaker 6: a better time to be a first home buyer in Australia?
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  Speaker 1: All right, Stephen? Is that true?
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  Speaker 2: And does this make this falling prices is a good
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  Speaker 2: thing and we should thank the government?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's absolutely true.
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  Speaker 12: It is a very good time to be looking to
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  Speaker 12: buy a home. But some of this economics is just drivel,
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  Speaker 12: just drivel, like this is a policy allegedly that is
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  Speaker 12: causing the problem that doesn't come into effect for nearly
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  Speaker 12: another ten months.
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  Speaker 1: What an incredible policy impacts it happen, what's coming in.
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  Speaker 12: Place it's not even in place. So then let's get
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  Speaker 12: to the nub of the real argument, which is the
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  Speaker 12: liberals and conservatives we're crying about our heart.
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  Speaker 1: It is bank of mom and dad.
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  Speaker 12: No one can get our house, and as soon as
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  Speaker 12: prices don't rise or fall, it's suddenly all we care
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  Speaker 12: about is incumbents. You cannot have it both ways. You
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  Speaker 12: cannot walk both sides of the street on this argument.
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  Speaker 12: You can't pretend due care if kids can't buy a house,
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  Speaker 12: and then defend the status quo. And that's the problem
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  Speaker 12: the liberals have got. They're actually defending the status quo,
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  Speaker 12: which has completely screwed any kid trying to.
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  Speaker 8: Buy a house.
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  Speaker 12: But we flip quickly to oh, you're causing all these
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  Speaker 12: people have got houses to lose value. You can't have
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  Speaker 12: it both ways.
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  Speaker 1: Choose.
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  Speaker 12: You've got to take one side of the politic argument.
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  Speaker 12: If you want to abandon kids trying to buy a house,
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  Speaker 12: good on you. And then, and then we have an
• 15:30
  Speaker 12: economically illiterate argument about negative equity. Stop stealing from an
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  Speaker 12: American housing market. No one is trying to buy a
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  Speaker 12: house today and sell it tomorrow. Therefore they've suffered the
• 15:44
  Speaker 12: full absolute drivel and anyone who wants to try and
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  Speaker 12: steal from the American language to try and pretend that
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  Speaker 12: it's happening here in Australia. People negative equity, Okay, different
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  Speaker 12: different mortgage market.
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  Speaker 5: You're not You're better than that. And last month, last month,
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  Speaker 5: Tenure Plebasi said there's never been a better time to
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  Speaker 5: buy a house for young people, first time buyers. I
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  Speaker 5: remember saying that a month ago. Well, if they've taken
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  Speaker 5: her advice a month ago, they will have lost more money.
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  Speaker 5: The question is when the house price has stopped falling.
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  Speaker 5: One of the reasons there's no auction clearances at the minute,
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  Speaker 5: they're down to thirty percent if you take out properties
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  Speaker 5: taken off the market is because a lot of the
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: young people in first home buyers investors have backed off
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  Speaker 5: the market because no one knows how far the market
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  Speaker 5: is going on and it's been dropping.
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  Speaker 12: Now stairs an economist, you make a great lawyer, Michael.
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  Speaker 5: So Steven, What so is the bottom of the market now?
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  Speaker 5: A young person who's putting down five percent, is there
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  Speaker 5: five percent at risk?
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Should they buy today?
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: Should they buy next?
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  Speaker 12: They get into the market while they can right now.
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  Speaker 12: Government supply side giving them some money and the reduction
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  Speaker 12: in demand. That's so anyone a properly for months demand.
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  Speaker 5: Even anyone that's brought a proper in the last four
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  Speaker 5: months has lost money. And it's going to continue to
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  Speaker 5: go to continue.
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  Speaker 12: That's right. It houses away for free, there'll be Michael Kroger,
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  Speaker 12: the price of houses will not shop falling mark down.
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  Speaker 1: Today's time and day it goes. Guys, can I just move?
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  Speaker 2: I have to say, you know all this isn't it
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  Speaker 2: wonderful for the few that want to buy a house
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  Speaker 2: when a lot of houses are not now being offered,
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  Speaker 2: as opposed.
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  Speaker 1: To the young millions, the millions who have seen their
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  Speaker 1: house press fall.
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  Speaker 2: I just think we need to also have a little
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: little think about them as well. But Stephen, the One
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  Speaker 2: Nation out leading in the latest national poll. It also
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: announced its leader in Victoria and its upper House candidates there,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: what are you expecting from them?
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Look, I wasn't.
• 17:45
  Speaker 12: I wasn't as bearish a few weeks ago when One
• 17:48
  Speaker 12: Nation's poles were coming down.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not as bullish now.
• 17:51
  Speaker 12: I think you've got a little bullish there in your
• 17:54
  Speaker 12: intro about the steamroller coming through of One Nation. But
• 18:00
  Speaker 12: I think that if you under if Labor, If Labor
• 18:03
  Speaker 12: underestimates the impact that one Nation will have at the
• 18:05
  Speaker 12: Victorian election you so well as election next federal election,
• 18:08
  Speaker 12: they will pay a price. But as you saw from
• 18:10
  Speaker 12: national conference, Labor take one nation very very seriously. And
• 18:16
  Speaker 12: I know from some of the work being done around
• 18:18
  Speaker 12: the country people are very focused on what is the
• 18:22
  Speaker 12: best way to appeal to Labour's traditional voters that are
• 18:24
  Speaker 12: thinking about voting for one nation at the next elections.
• 18:28
  Speaker 12: And there's a lot of work being put into that.
• 18:30
  Speaker 12: So I don't think Labor are taking it lightly. It
• 18:33
  Speaker 12: still continues to be a bigger problem, an existential crisis
• 18:37
  Speaker 12: of a national party. They're going to struggle to survive
• 18:39
  Speaker 12: at all.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: And the Liberals.
• 18:43
  Speaker 12: No, it is a Juggernau over the top of the name.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Is just you were just thinking as far as that Labor,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: hang on up. It's just going to give Michael the
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: term before we run out of time. Michael, what do
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: you what do you expect from my nation of Victorias.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: I was I was underwhelmed by the candidates today. Andrew
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: all good people note out and I'm sure their leaders
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: a good man. But to ask the Victorian public to mate.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: For someone to be premier who's never been a member
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: of Parliament is astretch. But on the other hand, I
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: think Paul and Hansen was good at a press conference
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: when she ignored those people campaigning and support of racism
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: and fascism, those campaigners outside, the racist and the fascists outside,
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: she gave them short shrift and good honor.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Absolutely more to say about them after the break, but
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: I do agree they desperately did need I think in
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: the end Adam Charles or someone like that who's had
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: parliamentary experience, but Adam g Yeah, but he didn't want
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: to do it, and that's that. Michael Kroegusie Connor, thank
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: you very much to you both. After the break will
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: be joined by One Nation candidate Mark Nicholson, who's brave
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: those protests outside outside the One Nation event tonight and
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: we shall talk to him from that. But there was
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: something very ugly on this big day for One Nation,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: and it wasn't Hanson's party. It was the protesters against that.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: The kind of people have made it physically dangerous at
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: times to be a Conservative of Victoria, as I found
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: out myself when I was attacked in the street by
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: far left activists on my way to launch a book
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: that I must say, the activists who jumped me found
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: out that that was dangerous too. For years I have
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: warned of Victoria's violent left and of the Labor government's
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: refusal to take that violent streak seriously. And here they
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: come again. A group calling itself the Coalition Against Racism
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: and Fascism organize another anti Hansen protests that meet the
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: candidates of Anti Melbourne. That's going on right now, and
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I've got to say this group has formed, it openly
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: says it wants to challenge the growth of the far
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: right early today directly confront them in the street and
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: prevent them from controlling public space. Now, confronting public in
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: the public, in the street and the public spaces sounds violent,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: and of course it is. I mean last October the
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: same group organized a street battle against the March for Australia.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Many there attacked police, pelt to them with rock sending
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Tudor hospital attack police cars as well. And this was
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: some random brain spasm violence, as we soon learned.
• 21:36
  Speaker 13: Thanks earlier, the Campaign Against Racism and Fascism group held
• 21:40
  Speaker 13: a meeting at the University of Melbourne protesters were told
• 21:43
  Speaker 13: to be militant and be aggressive. A strategy on a
• 21:47
  Speaker 13: slide show suggested to use bricks to throw at a cop.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: And that meeting was held at Melbourne University in shame
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: on it, Victoria. Now this she says, that speaker, Oh,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: it was just a guest speaker. It wasn't ass you know,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: yeah right now. Of course, when you look deeper at
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: this opposed Coalition against Racism and Fascism, you'll find that
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: it's just another front for this Socialist Alternative, a hardline
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Marxist group which provided the coalition spokesman for an interview
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: on three a ovel this morning, just as a clue.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: And it's behind, of course, many of the anti Israel
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: protests that you see, particularly Melbourne, and it runs the
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Red Flag magazine, the Sydney's notorious professional protest that Josh
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Lees writes for. Its co founder Mick Armstrong says, it's
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: aim as to destroy free markets in Australia.
• 22:39
  Speaker 14: This is alternative calls for a working class revolution, so
• 22:45
  Speaker 14: overthrow the whole of the exploitative capital storder.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Now, the Socialist Alternative hast won a single seat in
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: any parliament and election that people don't want it, so
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: street faring is the only way to enforce its will.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: That's what it's about, and it's done this for years,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: emailed with near impunity. Now, paulinehounced was that I asked
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: about the heavy security that she and her candidates now
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: need simply to stand for an election in a democratic
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: country and in a state that has hosted so much
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: political violence from the left.
• 23:18
  Speaker 12: There's an enormous amount of security around this event today.
• 23:22
  Speaker 12: How concerned are you about the ability of one nation
• 23:25
  Speaker 12: to campaign freely in the Victorian state elections?
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: Look, can you're saying myself personally, all our candidates it
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: is Chris. It is going to be tough, but there's
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: still a lot of support out there and people want
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: to see us. And these people, you know, they understand
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: what it's like out in the streets, and I'm sure
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: they've received a lot of support from their family and friends.
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: If they thought it was, you know, too dangerous, pit
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: up your hand. It tells you more so what the
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: state is like.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Seen there on the left of the screen, one of
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: the candidates, Hanson announced today, who's had the guts to
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: defy the socialist thugs and who are the real fascists.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: By the way, he is Mark Nicholson, a former lawyer.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: You've seen him often on Chris Kenny's show. Mark Nicholson
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: is a former lawyer and now co director of the
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Melbourne animation studio step Mate Studios, which produces the Please
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Explain cartoons, the very popular satirical series.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Published by One Nation. Mark Nicholson joins me.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Now from that very meet the greet, Meet the Candidate function,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: the Socialist Alternative is targeting tonight, Mark, any sign of
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: those socialists?
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Can you hear them from where you are?
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: Well, thanks Andrew for having men.
• 24:45
  Speaker 15: Yeah, there, here, there, here, there. They always made themselves known.
• 24:50
  Speaker 15: But to be honest, I've traveled around the country with
• 24:53
  Speaker 15: Pauline for the Super Progressive movie.
• 24:55
  Speaker 8: This is pretty commonplace.
• 24:57
  Speaker 15: Sadly, this morning's press conference was supposed to be on
• 25:02
  Speaker 15: the stairs of Parliament. That's where we originally intended to
• 25:05
  Speaker 15: have it, but we were told that we couldn't do
• 25:07
  Speaker 15: that for safety concerns. Those steps belong to the people.
• 25:12
  Speaker 15: That's the people's house, and we were told that we
• 25:15
  Speaker 15: couldn't be there for safety concerns. Well, that just shows
• 25:19
  Speaker 15: just how sad and sorry this state has become. They
• 25:24
  Speaker 15: have totally hijacked. I know this government, your socialist left.
• 25:28
  Speaker 15: To hijack this government, to hijack the entire parliament, and
• 25:31
  Speaker 15: the route and the rots the right goes very deep.
• 25:35
  Speaker 15: But honestly, this is only charging us further. We are
• 25:38
  Speaker 15: not afraid of these people. They are banshees, They are violent,
• 25:43
  Speaker 15: and we are.
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: Fighting against them.
• 25:46
  Speaker 15: And their stranglehold over this government is over. They're unnotice
• 25:49
  Speaker 15: as of today. Today is the beginning of the end
• 25:52
  Speaker 15: of their stranglehold over the state of Victoria.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Mark, tell me about your own political journey, because obviously
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: there's a lawyer. You went to universities which are hot
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: beds of leftist academia, etc. How's your own thinking evolved.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: I started.
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: I went to a Monish university. I've got an honors
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: degree in law there.
• 26:18
  Speaker 15: I was indoctrinated, like everyone else was, to be progressive
• 26:22
  Speaker 15: when I was there. And then I answered the real
• 26:23
  Speaker 15: world as a criminal lawyer. I stood in courtrooms where
• 26:27
  Speaker 15: I saw criminals not treated as criminals. They were treated
• 26:31
  Speaker 15: as patients, and they had it on their head and
• 26:33
  Speaker 15: told that they were sick. I saw the beginning of
• 26:35
  Speaker 15: the end. I was at the Department of Justice. When
• 26:38
  Speaker 15: Rob Hols was there, I saw the beginning of the
• 26:40
  Speaker 15: end of the criminal justice system. And then you slowly
• 26:43
  Speaker 15: open your eyes. I started a small business. I've experienced
• 26:46
  Speaker 15: what it's like to have government pushing down on you,
• 26:49
  Speaker 15: stopping you from employing people and growing.
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: I've had screen Australia.
• 26:53
  Speaker 15: I've had institutions trying to tell me that this industry
• 26:56
  Speaker 15: is not for me.
• 26:57
  Speaker 8: And then of course I found my home with One Nation.
• 27:00
  Speaker 15: But really what's enlightened is that I've seen that these
• 27:04
  Speaker 15: are real people. Paul Enhanson is the real deal and
• 27:08
  Speaker 15: every decision she makes is in the best interests of Australia.
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: That's the most important.
• 27:12
  Speaker 15: Policy of all, is that you can act in the
• 27:14
  Speaker 15: best interests of Australia. And that's what we intend to
• 27:16
  Speaker 15: do here, is acting the best interest.
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: Of Victoria at all times.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: What do you think One Nation's chances are realistically Victoria
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: given the latest News poll shows that the One Nation
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: is just nineteen percent of the vote.
• 27:33
  Speaker 15: Honestly, mate, that is just the beginning. We only started
• 27:36
  Speaker 15: hitting the hustings. As of today, I think nineteen percent
• 27:40
  Speaker 15: is just.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: The very bottom.
• 27:43
  Speaker 15: Other than the small vocal minority that's banging their drums
• 27:47
  Speaker 15: out the front there.
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: I really do think we could win one hundred percent
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: of the vote.
• 27:51
  Speaker 15: Ninety eight percent of the vote then, because we're coming
• 27:53
  Speaker 15: out with common sense policies, mate, we are.
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: Delivering three key promises to.
• 27:59
  Speaker 15: The state of Victo. We are going to restore prosperity.
• 28:02
  Speaker 15: We're going to get rid of this ridiculous government spending.
• 28:04
  Speaker 15: We're going to restore safety back into the states so
• 28:07
  Speaker 15: people could walk around the streets once again.
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: And we are going to restore trust in government by
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: being truly accountable. We're real people. This is a revolution,
• 28:16
  Speaker 8: this is a movement. Nineteen percent, that's the bottom, mate.
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: We're only just beginning.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: And yet, you know the candidates.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I thought there were a couple of good ones there are,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: yourself included, but no political experience, zero political experience.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: With any of the ones.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: People that stood with paul In Hanson saying, well, you know,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: this is the alternative government. How's that supposed to work?
• 28:42
  Speaker 16: Well?
• 28:42
  Speaker 15: Mate, If the current class of politicians that I'm seeing
• 28:47
  Speaker 15: in the Victorian Parliament are supposed to know what they're doing, well,
• 28:50
  Speaker 15: we're in a very sad, sad place. Representative democracy is
• 28:55
  Speaker 15: all about people stepping up. Every single candidate that's been
• 28:58
  Speaker 15: up there, myself included, been put through the ringer and
• 29:02
  Speaker 15: made sure that every decision we make will be in
• 29:05
  Speaker 15: the best interest of Victoria. At the end of the day,
• 29:07
  Speaker 15: that's the only characteristic that matters.
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: And if honestly, Mane.
• 29:10
  Speaker 15: If these are the people that apparently know what they're doing,
• 29:14
  Speaker 15: let's give someone else that doesn't know what they're doing.
• 29:16
  Speaker 8: A chance for once.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Come on, this is what it's all about.
• 29:19
  Speaker 8: Park my words. We'll be back on the stairs in
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: Parliament on the twenty eighth of November.
• 29:23
  Speaker 15: We'll be back on those stairs, but we'll be going inside.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Magnificent, Thank you so much for your time. Good on you.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: After the break the invasion of a Spanish city bay
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: illegal immigrants. Why Europe has freaked at these scenes. Spain
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: has just given the europe and also the left in particular,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: I guess, a huge wake up about mass immigration. And
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: last Thursday, between fifty and sixty thousand legal immigrants rush
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: the border between Morocco and Seata, the Spanish enclave on
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: the tip of North Africa, most of them swimming around
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: the fence by sea as far as streets filled with
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: young foreign men demanding food and water and passage to
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: mainland Spain. Some shops were looted, and the sea, beach
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: and streets and everything they were filled with discarded junk because,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: of course, strangers tend not to look after land they invade,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: and tragically fifty seven people drown. Now several events created
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: this disaster. First, you had the socialist Prime Minister of
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Spain of Sanchez in January, offering potential citizenship to more
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: than a million illegal immigrants already in Spain. The next
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Spain Supreme Court four weeks ago said, oh, the governor
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: can't instantly deport illegal immigrants anymore that come by sea.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Therefore the swimming, of course.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: And finally, Sanchez last Monday, if you're ad Morocco by
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: visiting Algeria, which supports a claim by the Glasario Front
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: to the Western Sahara, which moroccoss had owned, so accused
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: some reprisals. Social media so to be filled with post
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: saying Spain is open. Video showed Morocco's Royal Gendarmerie doing
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: nothing while trucks unloaded hordes of young men by the border,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: and many European leaders Batley mass immigration damned Spain's weakness.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Even though the illegals there in Serta then they've got
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: no legal right actually to go on to mainland Europe.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: And once they'd worked it out, more than fifty thousand
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: just went home, the Moroccan ones, leaving a few thousand
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: illegal immigrants in sub Saharan countries still refusing to leave.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Where would they go?
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: But spain socialists prime ministers still praise diversity as a
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: strength that old left lie, even after sending in the
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: army to chase out most of those illegals.
• 31:52
  Speaker 12: Respect Institute, alreatt Combnentia.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Any stuffy.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: To the uscis.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Joining me, is the country stop foreign affairs? Rudi Greeg
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Sheridan of the Australian Greg always great to talk to you. Look,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: most of those illegal immigrants, as have said, have since
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: gone home. So why has this caused such a strong
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: reaction among many European countries, particularly Italy and Denmark?
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: And from Donald Trump? Well, Andrew, great to be with you.
• 32:33
  Speaker 14: You've got to admire Georgia Maloney. She immediately suspended the
• 32:38
  Speaker 14: Shengen Agreement as it applies to Spain. So if you
• 32:41
  Speaker 14: come to Italy from Spain. Now you're going to have
• 32:43
  Speaker 14: to get a visa or lineup at the airport or
• 32:45
  Speaker 14: something good on her. I mean, Spain is a very
• 32:50
  Speaker 14: bad outlier in European policy. It's it's government defines itself
• 32:55
  Speaker 14: by being Andy Trump, and it doesn't disagree legitimately with
• 32:59
  Speaker 14: the things Trump is wrong about. It just tries to
• 33:02
  Speaker 14: be a left wing mirror image of Trump. So the
• 33:05
  Speaker 14: thing that attracts illegal immigrants is saying you'll make them
• 33:10
  Speaker 14: citizens straight away and the courts saying you can't deport them. Now,
• 33:16
  Speaker 14: I'm in favor of legal immigration, and I think rich,
• 33:19
  Speaker 14: wealthy countries like ours have a responsibility to have a
• 33:22
  Speaker 14: generous refugee program. But we decide who the refugees are
• 33:27
  Speaker 14: and how many, and where they come from and all that.
• 33:29
  Speaker 14: But this phenomenon of illegal immigration has absolutely blighted Europe.
• 33:35
  Speaker 14: Ten percent of France's population is now Islamic, and a
• 33:39
  Speaker 14: large proportion of that hates France and is not integrated.
• 33:45
  Speaker 14: Sensible center left governments like the one in Denmark have
• 33:48
  Speaker 14: controlled their borders. Andy Burnham, like Kirstarma, can't control the
• 33:52
  Speaker 14: borders in England because the courts won't let him send
• 33:56
  Speaker 14: people back. This is a civilizational crisis throughout Europe, and
• 34:01
  Speaker 14: those fifty or sixty thousand people who just ignored the
• 34:04
  Speaker 14: rule of law for a day between Morocco and Pseudo,
• 34:09
  Speaker 14: they are just the latest symptom of this absolute breakdown
• 34:13
  Speaker 14: of Europe being able to control its own borders.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Well, I have to say that's the closest re enactment
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: to the Camp of the Saints, that famous book bay
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Genre Spey that I've ever seen in front of our eyes.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: You know, so many people arriving at once. US President
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump. Meanwhile, I can't remember how often I've said this.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I feel like I'm in a groundhog day. He's called
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: off his planned big strike against the Iran and for
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: about the tenth time, says he's not going in hard
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: now because it's close to a deal. Greg, I've got
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: to say, he is looking weak and irresolute now, and
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: this is a very dangerous signal what's going on.
• 34:57
  Speaker 14: Well, you're absolutely right, Andrew, and I don't want to
• 35:00
  Speaker 14: keep harping on this, but we've often explored in our discussions,
• 35:03
  Speaker 14: when Trump announces a big military action, it almost never
• 35:07
  Speaker 14: takes place. When he does big military actions, it's almost
• 35:11
  Speaker 14: always with no pre announcement. You know, he initially bombed
• 35:15
  Speaker 14: Iran while they were conducting negotiations with the United States.
• 35:18
  Speaker 14: He didn't announce that he was going to go in
• 35:20
  Speaker 14: and take Venezuela as Maduro. I think Trump desperately wants
• 35:25
  Speaker 14: to get out of this war. He's not prepared to
• 35:29
  Speaker 14: take the kind of sustained military action which would destroy
• 35:32
  Speaker 14: the regime. He was never prepared for that. He seems
• 35:35
  Speaker 14: never to have planned for the things that.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Happened in this war.
• 35:39
  Speaker 14: I want Trump to win, of course, there's no moral
• 35:41
  Speaker 14: contest between Iran and the United States.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I want the United States to win.
• 35:45
  Speaker 14: But Trump is desperately keen to get out, and he
• 35:50
  Speaker 14: offers Iran a very very good deal. But as I
• 35:54
  Speaker 14: wrote at the weekend in the weekend, Australian Iran now
• 35:57
  Speaker 14: has what the Wall Street journal is calling escalation dominance
• 36:01
  Speaker 14: in this conflict.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: It is escalating itself.
• 36:04
  Speaker 14: It's calling Trump's bluff over and over again, and it's
• 36:07
  Speaker 14: not going to give up control of the straight of
• 36:09
  Speaker 14: hoor moves and it's certainly not going to give up
• 36:12
  Speaker 14: it's enriched uranium. And I think in the end, Trump
• 36:16
  Speaker 14: will I hope this doesn't happen. But I think eventually
• 36:20
  Speaker 14: he'll just leave where they ran effectively in control of
• 36:24
  Speaker 14: the straight of hor moves. I very much hope that
• 36:26
  Speaker 14: doesn't happen.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Greg.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of excuses, right. I think you're
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: absolutely correct. Oh, I think we've lost Greg. Now, well
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: that's a pity, but I have to say what it's
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: going to say to him? Are I'm trying to imagine
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: some excuses for Donald Trump. One is that the Gulf
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: States no longer trust him to keep his word, and
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: you know, and they're worried that if they're too, they're
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: being attacked because they've got American basis.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: On this soil.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: They are Islamic countries, and some of them will be
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: worried about their populace, thinking why are we being attacked
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: to save America? So they may want an end to
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: this war, right, and Trump has to go along with
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: that because otherwise we'll lose those US spaces which are
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: so critical. So I think that might be actually one
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: reason why his hands to a certain extent are tired.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: And the other is that he's dealing with so called
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: moderates they're actually butchers. But there are worse butchers in
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: charge of the Islamic the Revolutionary Guard Corney iron That
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: is actually doing the firing of the missiles, and maybe
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: he thinks he can do a deal with them and
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: they will get on top of the IRGC. I don't
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: think that's actually going to happen, so it is a disaster.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: After the break, the ABC scandal deepens as Gina Rhina
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: says she's going to sue the two deaf and blind
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: ABC bosses who still won't say sorry to her. The
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: ABC bosses have now dug themselves so deep in the
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: gena iroone Heart scandal, so deep cover themselves with so
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: much shame that I think they can only get out
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: of it by sacking someone. Someone's going to have to
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: lose their job. I broke the story about how the
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: ABC violently abused moaning billionaire Gina iron Heart a couple
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: of weeks ago.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: I broke that by screening this short film.
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  Speaker 16: Because when the revolution comes, will you hide under your
• 38:25
  Speaker 16: bed or will you know exactly how to shove a
• 38:29
  Speaker 16: stick right off Gena Ironhart's botthole, stirring it around, mixing
• 38:34
  Speaker 16: her gots up nice and smooth.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: After a week or more, the filmmaker eventually did issue
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: a partial apology, but the ABC management still refuses to
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: do the same.
• 38:47
  Speaker 17: Man.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: The fact that she's apologize but they haven't puts the
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: ABC in a very sticky spot. In fact, it's made
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: worse by the fact that first defended the segment and
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: then eventually said it won't be commenting further while it's
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: combersman takes a second look when the whole thing became
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: too obviously bad, you know, as if Chairman Kim Williams
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: are managing director Hugh Marx, as if they actually need
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: an expert to tell them that talking about sodomizing a
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: woman with a stick is actually, you know, not very good.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: And re Reinhart is now up their up the stake,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: spashing a statement warning that she's going to sue, saying
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: her company has formerly placed ABC chair Kim Williams, Deputy
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: chair Lisa Caffery, who must be packing it at the moment,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: and now Managing director Hugh Marx on a notice of
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: detailed allegations of serious contraventions of multiple Australian criminal and
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: civil laws. And what's more, the Prime Minister and his
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: top female ministers, well they have said nothing so more
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: shame on them, But and I think the ABC's started
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: to feel, well, we're getting a bit deserted by our
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: mates here. In the past couple of days, some labor
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: right wing front benches and men have finally spoken out
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: against the ABC and into the pressure on the national
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: broadcast to say, sorry.
• 40:10
  Speaker 12: It's pretty revolting and it's not the sort of thing
• 40:13
  Speaker 12: I think we should see on TV.
• 40:15
  Speaker 18: Enough of this kind of violent imagery towards particularly to
• 40:19
  Speaker 18: women or vulnerable people, because that is an indicator in
• 40:23
  Speaker 18: society where you know, people might not see it this comedy,
• 40:26
  Speaker 18: they might see it seriously as something that they could follow,
• 40:29
  Speaker 18: and that's just unacceptable.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Joining me, Lisa got out from a foreign correspondent and
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: founder of Adoni Media and US twenty four hosts Daniga
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: di Georgio, Lisa, can the ABC now get out of
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: this without sacking someone for such a gross and sustained
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: error of judgment, not just in the first instance way
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: screening it, having actually checked the footage and then put
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: it to air, but then defending it and still not
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: apologizing for it.
• 40:58
  Speaker 19: Well, Andrew, what they're doing right now is just hiding
• 41:01
  Speaker 19: behind the process. In that film, the filmmakers said it
• 41:04
  Speaker 19: was about someone hiding under a bed. Well, that's exactly
• 41:07
  Speaker 19: what ABC management and the chair is doing at this
• 41:10
  Speaker 19: exact point in time, which is completely outrageous. They need
• 41:14
  Speaker 19: to stand up and own this mistake and apologize because
• 41:17
  Speaker 19: you know, I think what is forgotten in all of this,
• 41:18
  Speaker 19: Missus Reinhardt may be a billionaire, she's a great Australian,
• 41:23
  Speaker 19: but what people forget is she is still a person.
• 41:26
  Speaker 19: Forget anything else, put all of that aside. She is
• 41:28
  Speaker 19: still a person who has been violated by our national broadcaster.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: And you're right.
• 41:35
  Speaker 19: You don't need an ombardsman. You don't need a six
• 41:38
  Speaker 19: month inquiry for someone to tell you that what you
• 41:40
  Speaker 19: did was not just bad taste, because it's a very
• 41:42
  Speaker 19: polite way of saying it. It was absolutely disgusting. And
• 41:44
  Speaker 19: I'm glad she's hold him to account because I can
• 41:46
  Speaker 19: tell you I think she'll be waiting a very long
• 41:48
  Speaker 19: time for an apology. Look back to the Heston Russell
• 41:51
  Speaker 19: case where they edited in those gunshots. I don't think
• 41:54
  Speaker 19: anybody lost their job and it took him over two
• 41:57
  Speaker 19: years to get an apology.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think this is just so great, and
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: you make a really good point. Look, I like Gina,
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: I know her.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: I mean I disagree with her very strongly about a
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: couple of things lately, but still a considered a friend.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: And I know I don't want to say too much,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: but I know she could be quite sensitive to very
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: personal attacks. And this was a savage as it gets,
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: you know, Danika, as if they forgot she is a woman, right,
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: It's just outrageous.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: They would know.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Kim Williams would know if it was about his wife.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: There wouldn't be any I must go to sud An
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: expert to see whether this was, you know, unacceptable.
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: He would know, Yeah, he would know You're spot on,
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: And perhaps our audience don't know. With segments like this
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: before they go to air it's a pre recorded segment,
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: they genuinely get checked by different areas of management. So
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: it just strikes me as bizarre Andrew that not one person,
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: not one person at the ABC thought to say, g
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: you know what, this is really inappropriate. This cannot possibly
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: go to air. And as we know here at Sky,
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: when they are these pre recorded segments, they actually go
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: through a legal department. Did anybody in the legal department
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: go again? This is not to be broadcast on air,
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: not one person. The fact that the APC have not
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: apologized to Gena rein Hart is quite frankly sickening. Had
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: this been anybody else, imagine had it been one of
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: their own, had it been Grace Tame while we were
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: talking about Britney Higgins here, the ABC would have been
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: up in arms from day dot. The reality is is
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: that Gena Reinhart is a fantastic businesswoman in this country.
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: Her company is the backbone for mining in Australia. And
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: to imply sexual assault because in my view, that's what
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: it was, and think that it's okay and just say,
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: oh well, the contestant on the show is issued an apology.
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: It was a half baked apology and it wasn't even
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: directed at missus rein Hart Andrew. So I think somebody
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: has to be sacked for this. Heads have to roll
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: because quite frankly, it's unacceptable.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Now you mentioned the silence of Anthony aben Ezi, the
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Prime Minister, and the labor of women in this ministry
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: has been extraordinary. Even the Communications Minister Anaka Wells today
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: again refused to say the ABC should apologize as she.
• 44:22
  Speaker 20: Is News twenty four asked me a number of questions
• 44:26
  Speaker 20: about this last week in a press conference, and my
• 44:28
  Speaker 20: view has not changed. I think it's a good and
• 44:31
  Speaker 20: righteous thing that the ABC has referred it to the
• 44:33
  Speaker 20: onbdsmen as the mister for communications. I take the editorial
• 44:36
  Speaker 20: independence really seriously and I respect their processes. So it
• 44:40
  Speaker 20: is now with the onwardsman. I think that is a
• 44:42
  Speaker 20: good thing.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: The Olympics from being great. Dawn Fraser is a friend
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: of Hanson, of Ginna Rewinnhardt.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: She is cut loose.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: She shredded Anthony Abernsi for saying nothing, writing you are
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: a spinus imbecile of an easy and you get more
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: disgusting as the days go on. To let this vile
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: crap excuse the language on ABC go to air and
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: not come out and say anything against it shows the
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: insipid little degenerate that you are. And Ryan Hart then
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: posted that on her website, very harsh words about Lisa.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: What do they tell you?
• 45:19
  Speaker 19: Well, she didn't miss him, did she. She saw her
• 45:21
  Speaker 19: target and she went for it. And it's not the
• 45:22
  Speaker 19: first time. Remember she called him spineless when he wouldn't
• 45:25
  Speaker 19: call a royal commission after the Bondai massacre. She was
• 45:28
  Speaker 19: the one that was everyone in the country was talking
• 45:31
  Speaker 19: out about it. But she hit him right between the
• 45:33
  Speaker 19: eyes with that, and here we are again, and you're right,
• 45:35
  Speaker 19: the language is much tougher, and so it should be.
• 45:37
  Speaker 19: There was an article I read just over the weekend
• 45:40
  Speaker 19: where Albanezer was interviewed and he described Gina ryan Hart
• 45:43
  Speaker 19: as being very right wing and that her agenda is
• 45:47
  Speaker 19: all lined with Pauline Hanson and One Nation. So you
• 45:50
  Speaker 19: can't tell me that this isn't political. The reason we
• 45:53
  Speaker 19: haven't heard and it's three weeks now that we've been
• 45:55
  Speaker 19: discussing this, we're now in our third week that he
• 45:58
  Speaker 19: has not come forward and said what the ABC did
• 46:01
  Speaker 19: was despicable. There should be an apology and it should
• 46:04
  Speaker 19: be taken down. It should not still be sitting there
• 46:07
  Speaker 19: while they wait, while they go through whatever this process is.
• 46:09
  Speaker 19: And as for Anaka Wells, she's a woman. She should
• 46:12
  Speaker 19: be out there like she would for any woman on
• 46:14
  Speaker 19: the left who was attacked like this, and be outspoken
• 46:17
  Speaker 19: about it and demanding an apology at the very very least.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: I think some of these women look back at their
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: silence here and be utterly ashamed of themselves. One day
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: speaking of Alvin Easy, Danika, he's broken at another promise,
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: this time the one he made last year to always
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: sturn up as Prime Minister to the annual Garment Festival
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: in the northern of the territory, the festival where he
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: launches his disastrous crusade for a race based voice departiament
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: here is last year.
• 46:47
  Speaker 17: I commit here that every single year, as that I
• 46:51
  Speaker 17: have the great honor to the Australias Prime Minister, I
• 46:56
  Speaker 17: will be here and engaged with you.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: It'd always go back as Prome Minister. The very next
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: year he failed to turn up. The festival ended today.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: No ALBINIZI showed up and nor has he committed that.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: I commented on that disastrous closing the gap statistics and
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: average disadvantage released last week. It was what is it
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: with this Prime Minister and promises?
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Danika?
• 47:21
  Speaker 8: Is that a rhetorical question?
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: Andrew, Gee, he's got a track record.
• 47:26
  Speaker 8: I've broken promises.
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: Do you want to start listing some two hundred and
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: seventy five dollars no new taxes? Look, I could go
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: on and on and now of course he can't go
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: to Garma because he was on holidays.
• 47:35
  Speaker 8: That's the latest excuse.
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: Just like he didn't fall over.
• 47:38
  Speaker 8: He was in the car. He was on a plan.
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: Look, we've heard about a thousand times and yet the
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: reality is here. We are still in twenty twenty six
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: and outcomes for Indigenous Australians are still going backwards. Yet
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: we were dragged in front of the polls in the
• 47:50
  Speaker 6: middle of the cost of living crisis to separate us
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: by the color of our skin. We all voted no,
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: and nothing has changed. One point three billion dollars Andrew
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: was allocated with the budget to improve outcomes. Again, nothing
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: has changed. We make all these commitments, nothing has changed.
• 48:07
  Speaker 6: So you know, yep, another broken promise. But the reality
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: is is Anthony Alberanesi is all talk when it comes
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: to Indigenous Australians.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Lisa, what do you make of it? I mean, man's
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: and time to his holidays. But you make a solemn promise,
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: slate that and not turn up in the very first
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: year your promise to gets tests.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: That is a bit odd.
• 48:28
  Speaker 19: Well, he retired as Acubra. He didn't need it anymore.
• 48:30
  Speaker 19: He didn't need the audience anymore.
• 48:32
  Speaker 20: Would be my read on this.
• 48:33
  Speaker 19: It was nothing more than a marketing tool for him
• 48:35
  Speaker 19: because he went on the year that he had to
• 48:37
  Speaker 19: was going to announce that there will be a referendum,
• 48:40
  Speaker 19: then he went to launch the referendum, and then the
• 48:42
  Speaker 19: next year that he went it was pretty much I've
• 48:44
  Speaker 19: got to try and save face here.
• 48:46
  Speaker 16: That's what it looks like.
• 48:47
  Speaker 19: And now no, sorry, I'm not going and Anika, I
• 48:51
  Speaker 19: don't very often disagree with you, but there have been
• 48:54
  Speaker 19: some improvements. If you look at that report, you know
• 48:55
  Speaker 19: what the improvements were. Improvements were There's been improvements in
• 49:00
  Speaker 19: access and legal rights over land and overset.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: And also that's it.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: And also ladies have got to go. Cherry's watching and
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: waiting and I can't hold her up. Lisa got out
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Indea to Georgia, thank you very much. As I sat
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: up next me is Sherry Maxon.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Good Night