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NFL Week 9 DFS Takedown Breakdown | November 4, 2024 | DraftKings DFS Lineup Review and Analysis · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All system's going clear the left.
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  Speaker 2: What's up everyone? Tyler Tamberline here aka Totag and Tambo
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  Speaker 2: back for another edition of the Takedown breakdown here on
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  Speaker 2: the Ship at Nation YouTube station, and a breakdown all
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  Speaker 2: the GPP findings from the main slate for week nine yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: got my guy Naid's here with me. As always, We'll
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  Speaker 2: get into it. We'll go through perfect lineup, look at
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  Speaker 2: the twenty dollars million maker, maybe some others, break down
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  Speaker 2: some of those player pools, see what they did, roster construction,
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  Speaker 2: some lineup reviews, and then I'm also going to show
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  Speaker 2: you a member that use some of my content to
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  Speaker 2: win forty k Well, I fumbled the bag with it
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  Speaker 2: and cast myself a seat to Nashville, and I think
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  Speaker 2: it was a mistake. So we'll look at it again.
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  Speaker 2: Like I said, always trying to learn and get better
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  Speaker 2: on here. But Nates, they'll bring you in, my friend.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on? Another Monday? Another Monday. We can find
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  Speaker 2: some some takeaways and then get through to tonight Tampa
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  Speaker 2: Bay at Kansas City.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, not the greatest weekend for me, but another amazing
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  Speaker 3: weekend over here at the Nation. Just continue to crush
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  Speaker 3: if it's not yourself, you always love to see the
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  Speaker 3: community crushing. But I mean, overall pretty crazy gay yesterday
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  Speaker 3: right injury real day, and then you got a couple
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  Speaker 3: crazy stuff going on late right where guys just absolutely
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  Speaker 3: smash late in games and things like that.
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  Speaker 4: But overall pretty uh, pretty fun day of football.
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  Speaker 3: Wasn't the best for me, but we got a nice
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  Speaker 3: game here tonight as well, and we can still find
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  Speaker 3: some find some lessons and some teachings from yesterday and
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  Speaker 3: reviewing these winning lineups, which is the best part.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, THEFS can be frustrating, I know for many out there.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see him in some in the chat today, we'll
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  Speaker 2: see him the discord some that didn't have the best
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  Speaker 2: weeks or having these up and down seasons. But you
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  Speaker 2: just gotta trust it. You got to stick with what
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  Speaker 2: like ours is for, where you can go into the
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  Speaker 2: some of the reviews even today, throw them on an
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  Speaker 2: X like some people did. I'm gonna review some of them.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk through little things like that. But I've been
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  Speaker 2: knocking at the door plenty of weeks and still they
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  Speaker 2: won't let me in. Luckily, there's no snow yet. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not outside freezing cold, but I would like to be
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  Speaker 2: let in. You know it good, It's good on the inside,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm hoping to get there. I know many of
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  Speaker 2: you are as well. Before we get into this snad,
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  Speaker 2: that this is coming. There's gonna be a lot of
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  Speaker 2: cool things with this and some fun stuff along the way.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's get to it, and need's let's start
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  Speaker 2: off with the perfect lineup. And we were talking pre show,
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  Speaker 2: the winner of the twenty dollars Milli Maker when we
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  Speaker 2: get there, actually got pretty close. We haven't seen that
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  Speaker 2: very many times this season yet. Actually it's usually been
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  Speaker 2: like there's fifty points to play with or thirty points
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  Speaker 2: to play with? What was it this week? You looked
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  Speaker 2: it up and then take us through this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so the twenty dollars Milli Maker winner obviously dusted
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  Speaker 3: the field in that competition. Anytime you come within fifteen
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  Speaker 3: points of the optimal optimal like we see here up
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  Speaker 3: on the screen, probably a good chance that you absolutely
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  Speaker 3: dusted your field of competition out there.
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  Speaker 4: And that's what we saw happen there. So well, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: the perfect lineup here, a lot of good plays, not.
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  Speaker 3: Really much rhyme or reason, but obviously a chain, right,
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  Speaker 3: the numbers just stay true with two under center. A
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  Speaker 3: chain just does it all. I mean, the guy just
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  Speaker 3: absolutely gets there in any way possible. And that's even
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  Speaker 3: with some splitting right in the backfield there with most
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  Speaker 3: dirt and things like that. The fumble obviously helped him
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  Speaker 3: a little bit, but he's just so dynamic. He is
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  Speaker 3: the he is the back of choice in that offense.
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  Speaker 3: The Chase Brown play just the best play in the
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  Speaker 3: slate yesterday. I know a lot of people were trying
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  Speaker 3: to argue, oh, but this, and then oh the backup
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  Speaker 3: and blah blah blah and all this. I mean, the
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  Speaker 3: dude got twenty seven carries yesterday. I mean he was
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  Speaker 3: already leading this backfield. Now there's no Zach Moss. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he just is involved in everything. So obviously that's an
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  Speaker 3: amazing play there, Gaseki, same thing, right, two of the
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  Speaker 3: best plays in the slate. Right, that little combo pack
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  Speaker 3: was actually really good, and I see a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people did use that yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: Didn't really care about the ownership.
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  Speaker 3: Right play the two best plays in the slate that
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  Speaker 3: are under priced, right, Gaseki, with no t Higgins in there,
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  Speaker 3: all his numbers that when Higgins is out.
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  Speaker 4: Of there, he absolutely crushes.
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  Speaker 3: I know people are trying to argue that, and ham
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  Speaker 3: got got kind of dunked on a little bit yesterday
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  Speaker 3: on the show. Right with the metrics there, so that
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  Speaker 3: como pack is good, and then just filling it out
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  Speaker 3: with with good plays. You could have got to something
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  Speaker 3: like this, right, Saquon Barkley, No way, Jalen Hurts is
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  Speaker 3: going to vulture all three touchdowns again every single week.
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  Speaker 3: So people were trying to see that, and I got
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  Speaker 3: sae Quon Barkley yesterday at two percent ownership in a
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  Speaker 3: matchup where they should have absolutely just smashed.
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  Speaker 4: And that's what you saw there.
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  Speaker 3: So I mean, overall, pretty good plays and it's not
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  Speaker 3: as crazy as what we've seen in weeks past when
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  Speaker 3: I was in the twenty dollars almost got all the
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  Speaker 3: way there.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I got a couple of things here. I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna go through just quick because you know, I'll bring
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  Speaker 2: up a chat I had with another fellow DFS player
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  Speaker 2: before the slate. I think it's kind of interesting. But
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  Speaker 2: just in general, Daniel Jones naked whatever, Like you said
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  Speaker 2: two sixty two, when we get to the review of
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  Speaker 2: the twenty dollars million Maker, you don't really have much
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  Speaker 2: you can say here, Well, if they did this or
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  Speaker 2: if they did that, they used most of their salary.
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  Speaker 2: They hit hard. This is the perfect lineup. The winner
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  Speaker 2: hit harder. They got two sixty two, so it'll be
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  Speaker 2: very close. But a lot of this stuff was discussed
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  Speaker 2: heavily yesterday, like maybe you don't get to obviously DeMarcus
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  Speaker 2: Robinson and that could be part of Puka going out
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  Speaker 2: and throwing the punch and all that. You can argue
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  Speaker 2: how weak that was or whatnot. But Zay not really
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  Speaker 2: what people probably expected that big of a game. But
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  Speaker 2: obviously at any given moment, the guy's been super underrated
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  Speaker 2: for what he's been doing all season long now, so
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  Speaker 2: it goes with that. But a Chan Brown Gasecki, but Gaseeki,
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  Speaker 2: I keep hearing the same thing. Oh he got there
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  Speaker 2: late now thirty one hundred bucks. He was there already.
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  Speaker 2: That was just the bonus and the cherry on top. Again,
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  Speaker 2: people just confuse this. Talked about it yesterday on the
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  Speaker 2: show on the way the slate was set up and
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  Speaker 2: the way these tight ends are priced right now, and
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  Speaker 2: Nay's you've made comments on this the last three weeks
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  Speaker 2: and been dead on with it. They're priced bad and wrong,
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  Speaker 2: Like don't be surprised when they're twenty percent. It's just
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  Speaker 2: it's bad price. You can get away with an eleven
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  Speaker 2: or twelve in some cases, and this slate you just
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  Speaker 2: got the cherry on top that dropped the third that
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  Speaker 2: pumped it up story to thirty. It wasn't like other
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  Speaker 2: tight ends really smashed and broke the slate so that
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  Speaker 2: the Chase Brown one. I was saying it all day.
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  Speaker 2: It's not results oriented at all, because I said it
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  Speaker 2: all before the slate started. It was way different than
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  Speaker 2: the Breese Hall thing. I tried to talk many members
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  Speaker 2: in the discord into it that we're trying to talk
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  Speaker 2: about on the show specifically. And I don't victory lap
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  Speaker 2: very often. This is not a victory lab. I'm wrong
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  Speaker 2: about a ton of stuff. This was just one thing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking about process, not like Alan Iverson talking about practice.
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking about process, not the play's process. And this
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  Speaker 2: is the thing with Chase Brown. There was a million
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  Speaker 2: ways to use them and get different with them. You
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  Speaker 2: could play them with the Bengals D. You could play
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  Speaker 2: them with Burrow, you could play them on his own.
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  Speaker 2: You could play them with a combo pack or a
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  Speaker 2: trio pack. You could play them opposite Minshew there was
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  Speaker 2: so many ways to play this guy, and we didn't
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  Speaker 2: have ten receivers at thirty five hundred like the week
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  Speaker 2: we did with Breese Hall, and even on the Breeze
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  Speaker 2: Hall slate, you could argue we had about ten more
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  Speaker 2: running backs that I thought were in pretty good spot.
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  Speaker 2: So it's just taking away the stuff. I'll call out
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  Speaker 2: my own mistakes that I made later on. I'm just saying,
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  Speaker 2: when you know something, this is what you got to
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  Speaker 2: run with. He could have got away with probably twenty
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  Speaker 2: one here as well, made so anything else to add
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  Speaker 2: on that, like the Goeskee brown stuff chalk hits, but
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  Speaker 2: you'll see in the winning lineups they still had tons
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  Speaker 2: of leverage built around this chalk. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, I just want to bring coach up here in
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  Speaker 3: the chat. I was still a little tilted about that too,
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  Speaker 3: But I mean he already had like.
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  Speaker 4: Eighteen or nineteen points before already play. Could you have
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  Speaker 4: gotten away at eighteen or nineteen not having him? Probably,
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  Speaker 4: but that was still I mean, still you're you're damn
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  Speaker 4: good right for the price point there, and and these guys,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the staying point stays true. Like Tampbell brought up,
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  Speaker 4: I mean these guys are priced.
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  Speaker 3: Is like literally, dudes that are getting ten of the
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  Speaker 3: snaps wide receiver four or fives and their wide receiver
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  Speaker 3: ones and mostly twos in their respective offenses due to injury,
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  Speaker 3: due to the thing. The pricing is just not adjusting
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  Speaker 3: to be honest for these tight ends. That's why you're
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  Speaker 3: seeing two tight end builds do good, right, because they're
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  Speaker 3: just under priced.
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  Speaker 4: And then you can allow to you to spend up
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  Speaker 4: at running back.
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  Speaker 3: And then the other Chase Brown argument too, right, similar
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  Speaker 3: situation of the Breece Hall Chalk week. The only issue
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  Speaker 3: is Brice Hall was almost two thousand dollars more expensive
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  Speaker 3: than Chase Brown. Yesterday we had zero value on the slate.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Jake Bobo was like one of the best
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  Speaker 4: values on the slate quote unquote, right, Jalen Cocher. Guys
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  Speaker 4: that we weren't even playing in weeks one and two, right,
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  Speaker 4: or become the best values. You just got to use
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  Speaker 4: that and when you're in your thought process, right, this
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  Speaker 4: dude is literally has all the opportunity in the world
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  Speaker 4: there and people are still trying to poke holes and
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  Speaker 4: make it not work.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, it's just all It's all we do. With
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  Speaker 2: the rest of your lineup. I'm fine. I think people
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  Speaker 2: that did ignore it or go against it probably built
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  Speaker 2: a little bit differently. And like our guy go collect says,
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  Speaker 2: notice no falcons or cowboys. One of the things we've
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  Speaker 2: seen with these high total games, even if you remember
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  Speaker 2: the Detroit game the week before, Gibbs. Yeah, and you
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  Speaker 2: could make a case for certain guys, but the point was,
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  Speaker 2: for the most part, it's not even like this. You
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  Speaker 2: could you could find the lineup that probably includes a
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  Speaker 2: Mooney for example, and still scores a big score. It's
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  Speaker 2: just you can move some pieces around, but not necessarily needed,
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  Speaker 2: right obviously Mooney not needed. But just to bring that up,
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  Speaker 2: this is definitely something there was, you know, some injury
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  Speaker 2: stuff yesterday with Olave and London the big ones early on,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll talk more about the the Olave one in
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  Speaker 2: a little bit, because I think when you look at
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  Speaker 2: combo packs and you look at like Chase Brown Giseki,
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  Speaker 2: that is a spot where it's just so cheap for
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  Speaker 2: both you have to use a tight end running back
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  Speaker 2: tight end combos or cheap receiver cheap tight end combos
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  Speaker 2: like we've seen with like the Morn and Djoku the
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  Speaker 2: week it was, or like Tilman and Joku that week
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  Speaker 2: was three thousand and what was it forty one hundred?
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  Speaker 2: Those are better than a seventy eight hundred dollars running
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  Speaker 2: back and a sixty one hundred dollars receiver. And I
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  Speaker 2: played that in places as well. But in looking back,
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  Speaker 2: can it get there? Yeah? Is an ideal. No, I
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  Speaker 2: preferred to have it with Derek Carr. So just little
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  Speaker 2: things like that Dak was probably done already. This is
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  Speaker 2: kind of like the opposite effect of this. And Coach
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  Speaker 2: came back through it and said, we know, like it's
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  Speaker 2: the second is a secondary piece to the ad, like
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  Speaker 2: the cherry on top, like I said, but like Dak's
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  Speaker 2: already done, He's already got there. That's the flip side
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  Speaker 2: to both of those. I mean whatever you could say,
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  Speaker 2: I played Dak two. I liked him. I just mean, like,
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  Speaker 2: in the sense of the slate, I think it was
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  Speaker 2: kind of done for him. But yeah, I want to
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  Speaker 2: read this real quick, just because it's another thing. It
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  Speaker 2: didn't end up being on the winner, but just talking
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  Speaker 2: about some of the good plays on the slate and
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  Speaker 2: how hard it is to think through how to handle them.
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  Speaker 2: From a process perspective, and we're talking about Henry, Barkley, Williams,
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  Speaker 2: Chase cd AJ Brown, maybe even Tyreek Hill, like we're
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  Speaker 2: looking for thirty burgers. Thirty points is very hard to
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  Speaker 2: find on these slates. Yesterday, Giseki talking about the Lake gift,
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  Speaker 2: he was already there from a points in DFS perspective,
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  Speaker 2: but saying how hard it is to get the thirty
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  Speaker 2: Even that is what it took to get the thirty
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  Speaker 2: Barkley has to do backwards jump flips, which by the way,
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  Speaker 2: is absolutely insane on top of everything else he had
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  Speaker 2: going for him in Jigba super late in the game.
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  Speaker 2: But again, it can get there. But we had the
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  Speaker 2: thirty pointers today. That's kind of the point. But it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't necessarily who you thought they would come from. But
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  Speaker 2: just talking through it and thinking about the slate from
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  Speaker 2: a grand scheme overview is what I always talk about
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  Speaker 2: when I always asked the guys on Sunday shows. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Lamar and Hurtz can take away from Derrick, Henry and Barkley.
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  Speaker 2: It makes that quad pack scary, Like those are the
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  Speaker 2: ones that are harder to get right. You almost have
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  Speaker 2: to key them up together like I like Hurts with
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  Speaker 2: aj Brown, I like Dak with Cede Lamb. Situational stuff
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  Speaker 2: chase to me, and then we talked about CD and DAK. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: the risk there is if it ends up being like
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  Speaker 2: a Tolbert ferguson a turpin there, it can get spread out.
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  Speaker 2: And that goes back to this point. Even with the
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  Speaker 2: big totals and the high total games, it can be
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  Speaker 2: tricky to get the right pieces. And it's also like
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  Speaker 2: the Burrow or sorry, the Mahomes and the Josh Allen stuff.
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen I talked about him being Mahomes. Another one
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  Speaker 2: again yesterday who do you hook up with? It was
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  Speaker 2: who do you give touchdowns to? Yesterday? And may do
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  Speaker 2: you remember?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah it was it was Matt Collins guard one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Ray Davis had a massive, massive run, Yeah, sixty three
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  Speaker 3: yards and I mean it was that, and then I
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  Speaker 3: think it was was it Keyi Coleman and Shakir. I
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  Speaker 3: mean there was literally like eight guys involved in the
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  Speaker 3: offense there and nobody smashed from.
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  Speaker 4: A receiver standpoint, so it's just like a naked it.
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  Speaker 2: Was it was Quintin Morris got a touchdown?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, third tight end right tight end three.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he had eight receivers catch a ball yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: eight eight pass catchers, I should say, catch a catch
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  Speaker 2: a ball yesterday. They had four running three running backs
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  Speaker 2: and himself in the mix for yards on the ground.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's just one of those things that certain yea
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  Speaker 2: Quintin Morris was the guy. But just to note it
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  Speaker 2: back to it, so here's the last piece, I'll say it.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't fully get there. I switched everything over. I
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  Speaker 2: had tons of ginos still. But I also liked the
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  Speaker 2: Joe Burrow thing. And this was my takeaway. Was the
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  Speaker 2: thing about Chase is I want to play him with Burrow,
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  Speaker 2: So that solves that. And then you have Giseki who's
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  Speaker 2: going to be brought into it already, and that makes
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  Speaker 2: everything cheaper, It makes it over, It hits, and it
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  Speaker 2: allows me to then say, I can fit these mid
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  Speaker 2: tier guys in which if you look, you know, opposite
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  Speaker 2: a quarterback, mid tier mid tier could even stack them
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  Speaker 2: with Burrow, do some without. I did both. I put
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  Speaker 2: some of him into the onslaught. I put some without
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  Speaker 2: just thinking since he could smashed pretty mid tier mid
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  Speaker 2: tier ended up getting there. But whatever, don't even count
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  Speaker 2: it and then you know, a bit pricier. But when
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  Speaker 2: you get these type of bills, that's kind of what
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  Speaker 2: we've seen hitting even more in Showdown, which we've had
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  Speaker 2: some some time talked about as well, and it's still tough. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm already digget ruled out. So I think people thought
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: about that, but they always just spread it out. It's
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: definitely something that you got to look at. But my
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: takeaway was, of all those guys that we talked about
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: in that list, the one that seemed easiest because even
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: the Dax CD one made a lot of sense, but
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: you probably had to put a Turpin or a Tolbert in. Tolbert,
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: by the way, was priced up a little bit, Ferguson
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: priced up a little bit, and you had good options
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: like a Seki in them there. So just to note
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: it grand scheme overview, that's how you're getting That's how
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: I'm getting a lot of my ideas when people are
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: wondering how am I getting down to? You know, my
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: main single entry three Max. You know, I did this
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: newsletter up just so I think Tambo's tidbits dot com.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: You put your email and the first thing I ask
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: you is to give me some questions that you have
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: around DFS. It's going to go towards the project. I'm
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: not answering them one by one by one right now.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: I'm using them towards the project that I'm creating and
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: have been working on. But I will say one of
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: the most common questions was, how do you go from
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: your one fifty MME pool and get it down to
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: actually selecting it in Na's You've got some stuff we've
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: talked about in the past with using stack rankings the
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: stone now putting all of it together that way, and
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: that's how a lot of our members have found it.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: But that's how I'm pinpointing it down. Is what can
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: really happen and break the slate? What would break the slate,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: what does that look like? And then what's the one
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: that actually makes sense? And when we get to the
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: lineup review later, I'll bring up some more lineups that
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: I think just overthought that process of it, or they're
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: just sending me something from a complete MME mix, but
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: they're calling it their best and their single entry and
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: things like that. So I think that's where the struggle
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: actually lies. Let's talk about Chin Dog six one nine.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: You talked about it, you know, almost a twenty point blowout,
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: ray of hope back into the mix swing and things.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: Some other good players up here as well, But just
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: here's the lineup for Chin Dog GENO JSN had Barkley,
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: a Chen Sutton, Quinton Johnston, Mike Giseki, Zay Flowers and
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: the Tennessee defense. Not really a ton needs of correlation,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: but I'll let you take through this one. Besides the obvious,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: the opening stack GINO JSN.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so the GENO JSN, right, Gino, it's these value
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: quarterbacks have been really good, especially the ones that are
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: going to drop back and pass the ball thirty five
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: forty times a game, right, I know you were on GINO.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: We are are stuff over here like GINO quite a
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: bit JSN. With no Metcalf there, right, Lockett's kind of
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: been not involved. He did obviously get a touchdown, but
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: it JSN has been the alpha right when when Metcalf's
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: not in there, finally had an explosion game that everybody
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: expected from the old best ball bros.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: And everything like that. I know he was massively high
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: up there, but obviously that's pretty self explanatory there. The
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: Saquon play, I'm surprised.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: I mean he came in pretty higher own than than
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: what I had him, and and a lot of the
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: single entry stuff.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: He was like two three percent. But Saquon already hit
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: on that right. If you're not getting the hurts right
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: or aj Brown probably, why are they not getting there
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: right through the passing game?
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Who obviously I love DAJ Brown a lot A lot
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: of people love da J Brown yesterday. If it's not him,
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: can be Saquon Barkley at what one dollars hundred dollars
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: more expensive at a different position there, spinning up at
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: running back right to get unique the odd chain play
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: just landing in the mid tier just obviously one of
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: the best projected plays on the slate yesterday in that
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: high game environment, good game total.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: There.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: The Courtland Sutton and the Flower secondary stack, I think
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: is an interesting way to go.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: Two wide receiver ones on the respective offense.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: If you're not playing any pieces of the game, why
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: not just get to two guys that can just rack
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: up catches too, right, Courtland Sutton can rack up the
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: catches a Flower.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: It can literally played any single any week this year.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, he is definitely wide receiver one in that offense,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Deantay Johnson was also going to be like fifteen snaps Max.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: They said, I know that's burned us in the past,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: right with Puka Niko and things like that, But he's
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: still wide receiver one in the offense there has a
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: great connection with Lamar Jackson. So I don't mind that
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: secondary stack of what two wide receiver ones when you're
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: not playing any other pieces of that game. The Quentin
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Johnson play. I brought that up on the Sunday Show.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Everyone was like Ladd McConkie and making all these other guys.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, before Quentin Johnson got hurt, I mean, this
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: dude was scoring touchdowns every single week, was just absolutely smashing.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: And he came back and I mean did the same thing.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, this dude just every time he's in there,
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: it seems like he scores a touchdown. It just goes
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: absolutely nuclear. Forty four hundred a little bit more expensive
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: than like the Jake Bobos of the world, right, the
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Jalen Cokers of the world. Still a nice value at
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: forty four hundred, and then just plugging in the value
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: play in Kaseki there.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: So overall, I think it's pretty good. Build a little
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: less correlation than typically I would build.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: But when you're playing a field of one hundred and
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: sixty one thousand entries, right, sometimes you got to build
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: a little bit more more unique and different than a
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: lot of the field is going to build.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we talked about this in the last couple
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: of weeks too with the bigger slates, right, when you
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: get that many more, you don't really need full on
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: crazy correlation, Like obviously you can do that, but it
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: almost helps more in a higher dollars smaller field if
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: you're going to do it like a complete game stack
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: and just hope that one game nukes the other ones
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: don't and you get there that way. But in something
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: like large field, he still has this. The chat talked
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: about it again. People will say all the chalkolit yesterday
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: and then forget that GENO and JSN just completely untouched
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: for like almost seventy points. So this is not owned
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: at all. Like, I don't care what anybody says. That's insane,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: like all this these are great numbers to get on
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: these guys, Quentin Johnston, I like what you talked about.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: There's a couple of notes. Someone made fun of it too,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: because Mayo was high on him on the show, but
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: there was no value receivers this week outside of what
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Cocher who you mentioned maybe you know, then some stuff
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: to David Moore, like we talked about yesterday on the
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: same team, some of those other guys out there that
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: people played. Sure, but this was a spot where you
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: paid up just a little bit more and got a
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: guy that had been going off beforehand at only two
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: point nine percent. So just a chance. But when it
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: fits everything else, that's kind of the setup as well.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Obviously there was room to breathe here. He could have
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: brought this down from Zay Flowers to Chase and been
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: at what what was he fifty nine hundred.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: One more thing to Quin Johnson's one hundred hours more
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: expensive than Sededric Tillman in the same game on the
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: other side.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another thing too. It's a it's a flip
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: of that one hundred bucks more on that one. I
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: was going to bring that up on JSN as well,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: because two things he didn't have. He didn't have Chase Brown,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: he didn't have Camara or Olave And I'll bring up
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: more on this in a second, but this is the
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: other thing. Olave was sixty one hundred. It has nothing
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: to do with the injury. He was a great play
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: in his own right. Obviously, you probably didn't want to
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: have all that chalk together in one lineup in a
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: tournament like this. Anyway, he didn't want to play Brown
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Gasicki Myers on top of Olave, Kamara, etc. That's like
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: a higher dollar, smaller field where you can just maneuver
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: some of the correlation and stuff and do that. I
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: did that in like a seventy man queue where I
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: had some of that stuff mixed around. But my point
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: would be this would would been a reason why you
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: don't land on Olave if you're not playing Kamara. Maybe
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: he could have put o'lave in here and it would
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: have cost him. But my point being, if you are
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: playing Kamara or if you're not playing either, it obviously
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: makes sense to move off the chalk four one hundred
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: bucks more and to match it up with your quarterback
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: at lod of no ownership where you can see a
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: path to almost seventy fantasy points. So that would be
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: something I would point out right away. I like your
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: comment on the flip there, that was it the centric
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Tillman one hundred bucks more on the opposite side Sutton
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: with Flowers. But my point was you could have still
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: got down to what fifty nine hundred here and had
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: like only three less points and had another eleven hundred
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: dollars to pull up to like a fifty five hundred
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: dollars guy, which I don't know who that would be
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: off the top of my head, but just an example. Again,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: there was ways to maneuver this to make it a
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: little bit different, so and room to breathe for him,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: not room versus the optimal that we showed the perfect lineup,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: but plenty of room to go down a little bit
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: and still finish first go ahead.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: The also the Drake well, Drake London obviously too, right
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: at sixty seven hundred, paying up three hundred dollars more
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: to the Zave Flowers and then correlating with another leverage
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: piece right with the Courtland Sutton play too.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: So I thought that was another interesting little swap. Right,
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: you're kind of avoiding those high total games, But how
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: can those high total games and those guys that are
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: in really good spots under price for their roles like
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: at Drake London obviously injury right, throw that out the window,
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: But the game theory aspect, go to another wide receiver,
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: one who's priced right there, right, three hundred dollars more
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: in a game where you can definitely see him outscore
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Drake lending at one percent ownership versus what fifteen to
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: twenty percent, So just another little leverage play built into
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: there that most people probably don't look and see.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good, good point here. I think a lot of
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: people do, and I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: We've talked about plenty in the past on how it
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: is better. It's a good starting ground, but just got
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: to keep in mind the slate at hand and what
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: that sort of means is with twelve games, eight to
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: four split, et cetera, some latesop opportunity, all that, you've
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: got more games and more spots to work with. And
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: this million maker winner definitely took advantage of that in
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: not over correlating and needing it everywhere and just making
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: sure to play the good plays in some of those spots.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Another thing theye just to show the stuff too. I'll
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: talk more on this in a second and then go
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: to the next thing. But our stack ranking super high
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: on the Geno stack, they pass an absolute ton at home,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: it made more sense. Everybody told me, there's no way
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: he can do it outside, there's no way. You know,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: he's not that good, all this other stuff. He ended
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: up just doing five. I mean that was with three.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I INT's by the way that he also had that
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: so just to get Gino, who we knew was coming
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: in lower, Jasn who came in even lower than we expected,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: but we already had him sub ten. We had positive
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: leverage here. You could have went further with the stack
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: if you wanted to play Lockett. I know he only
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: got fifteen, but I guess he's the prime example, right,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: fifty six hundred. Let's go back here for a second.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: He had no money, but twelve hundred bucks more and
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: eleven hundred less. He lands on Philly d who probably
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: put up somewhere similar with Barkley correlation. He lands on
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Chase Brown, who goes with the Gaseki and we talked about,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: only gets him like three less points. And then instead
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: of twenty five, he gets fifteen because there's that twelve
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: hundred dollars spent. He gets another piece of that game
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: with Lockett. He gets Brown, and then he gets.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: He goes DSCRT nine.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Eagles D and he loses two, he loses three
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: or four, they're six and he loses ten, is sixteen,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: he's got nineteen to work with. He still wins the millise.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: So just to show it's not what he did wrong,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: what you can do right. It's just an example to
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: show that we can prime and find this stuff when
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: we go back through it. That's kind of stuff that
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: I'm looking for. Just well, what if this and not
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: the result that he still wins, that's the added benefit
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: and bonus, but just showing you that even if you
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: didn't get to some of this stuff at these super
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: low ownerships, you still had a way to get there
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: and get the job done. And then let me see
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: if that's the case too. Yeah, the Eagles wasnt afternoon game,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: so good note there too. He just built it out.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure I didn't look how many lineups he
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: actually had or anything yet, but just to see it
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: that shows it. So good breakdown there. I think. The
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: other thing too, I just wanted to show was I
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: posted in our discord this morning. They you know, the
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: total was twenty three point eight, so it's not like
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: people weren't here, but just was the best example I've
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: seen in a long time where we were able to
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: show off what I always talk about that the Seahawks
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: only put up twenty points, Right, they only put up
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: twenty points, but you had eighty five Fantasy points almost
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: or eighty three Fantasy points from Gino, JSN, and Lockett.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: And that's with Kenneth Walker running the ball a shitload.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Like he did not have good results this week for himself.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: We'll be keeping in mind him going forward because he
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: still got an absolute, you know, crazy workload. But even
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: with that, even with three picks, you still got eighty
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: three Fantasy points on JSN, Lockett and Smith, even with
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks only putting up twenty points. It's not about
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: the team points they score. That's an added bonus that
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: leads to bigger ceilings and all that. But if you
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: already have a solidified spot where he sort of keeps
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: it in check and these guys are getting the targets
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: and they're throwing it a ton, and they rate out
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: well in the stack rankings and all of this, I
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: thought it was a great idea to have Gino lineups
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: and I had some with Barner, which I'll show off next.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: But anything else on this winning lineup you want to
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: talk about here first day? Is anything else with the
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: roster construction, anything else you see?
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: No, So I just looked at his exposures a little bit.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: He played ten lineups. I'm assuming he either hand built
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: or kind of virtual handbuilt with an optimizer, because he
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: only played Gino and Lamar and that's where obviously Flowers
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: comes in, That's where Jasn comes in, and he played
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: planted on Quinton Johnson. So I think it's from a
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: value standpoint because I don't think he had any Cedric
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Tillman in his so he had he had twenty percent,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: so two lineups out of Cedric Tillman. The other six
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: lineups he was leveraging with Cedric Tillman as a part
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: of the game. Stack with with that Courtland Sutton. So overall,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: I mean he built for his portfolio really good to
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: give himself a chance, and he got all the way home.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: So that's just another takeout. You don't need the one
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: hundred and fifty. But when you're going in and you
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: know you're against the field of a bunch of one
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: hundred and fifty maxers, you got to build your portfolio
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: to take a chance, and he took a chance on
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: his two spots, right, the Lamar game and the Geno game.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, going back to the lineup, that's another I think
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: at least right like if you if you find one
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: hundred bucks there, you can move stuff around a little
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: bit more too and still be in good shape because
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: you would have lost ten points here, a few points here,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: and like a point there he could have kept. You know,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: he could have still kept some of that stuff and
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: got to him there. So I mean with Cedric Tillman.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: But yeah, just going back to his exposures here for
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: a second, I'll go to the contest dashboard, go to
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: the twenty dollars million maker. Oops, loaded up, as Naid said,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: But yeah, here we go quarterback. You mentioned it, he went,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: This is a good strategy too for ten lineups six
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: with Geno four. With that you can extrapolate that, I know,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: like you're playing thirty lineups, you do twelve eighteen something
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: like that. You see, So that's definitely fine here. I
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: think when you sort it was it was a chan
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: it was Pollard, you know, just a note here, trying
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: to see Barkley only in two of the ten lineups,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: so got to the right spot. By the way too.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: For those that watch this weekly, the winner of the
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Millionmaker last week went on the a Competitor site and
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: did his review of his Millionmaker winner and he had
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: fifty percent. Tyreek Hill last week said he went out
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: and walked the dog. He was so sort of over it.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: He didn't think anything was gonna come of it. Still
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: came back and ends up winning the million with a
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: completely different lineup within the portfolio. So just to note,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: not over till it's over, Barkley just in two, Quintin, Johnston,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Zay Flowers, JSN his four highest owned end up there
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: and Sutton even as he played four guys, you know,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: even a wide receiver in the flex Kiseki only in
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: one lineup, so that's another key piece. Now I'm not
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: sure how much money he was leaving or whatever, but
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: he would not have got away with it with pretty
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: much anything else. Like Barner all none of these guys
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: come near the thirty. So there's another thing to Haines.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: He only played ten lineups only at Gasiki in one
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: and it was in the winning one and he needed him.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: That was the thirty points that he needed, so little
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: things like that, and obviously didn't have any other defenses
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: mixed in, just went with what he had. So interesting
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: to go back and look look at it from that
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: perspective and just see something that way. I don't really
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: have much else here to talk about. I'll go here
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: real quick just to ship the miser and show off
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: my thing form me yesterday. I just talked earlier about
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: how I walked through that Chase Corps with a jamar
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Cha sorry and Burrow. I like that and sort of
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: getting to that my original core was set up like
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: this with Gino, Kamara, Brown, Myers, Lockett. If you just
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: go here again, all this stuff is from yesterday, so
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: don't have to do anything to change it. If you
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: plug in our best value at tight end, our best
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: value at defense, and then you go back to look
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: to complete the stack, JSN is there, I magically land
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: on seventy seven hundred. Let me get a run back
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: in that game, Cooper Cup. This is two hundred and
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: thirty something points. This is the lineup that member Kay
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Rish landed on. Congrats to k Rish, says thank you
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: for all the content. I'm forever grateful to tak Zambo,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: thank you for the amazing core one hundred and twenty
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: five dollars into forty four thousand, two hundred and fifty
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: amazing stuff. Congrats. I'm always happy if it's not me,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: I want it to be somebody else. That's certainly the
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: best part of doing this, and thankful to get to
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: do this. So that's amazing, So congrats to you. This
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: was my lineup with it Gino Caamara Brown, Lockett, Myers.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: I did get to Arizona, I did get to Cup.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: I went with the piece of the Dallas Atlanta game
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: in London and Barner as opposed to adding another big
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: chalk piece because I already had Kamara Brown, you know
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: at Cardinals d N it would get up there a
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: little bit. Myers. I did not add Gaseki. But it's
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: simply Gaseki and JSN for London and Barner and I win.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: I score two hundred and thirty one, I win the
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: seat by ten, and I win the one to fifty
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: three max four fifty k. So a big mistake. The
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: one thing I will say, though, this is the example
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: why I'm a little bit more pissed off about it.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Needs I talked about the JSN thing earlier obviously not
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: only does JSN fit it, whether I've got Lockett and
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Barner or not, I could have just changed it there,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: But we talked about the combo pack making sense. It's
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: a much smaller field. This is a two hundred person
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: qualifier to the Fantasy Football World Championship. Also, if I'm
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: playing Kamara and not playing Olave, I like just putting
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: sixty two hundred dollars JSN here, as most have one
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: or the other, a sixty one hundred dollars Olave with
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Kamara or without and bumping up something somewhere else. So
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: pretty disappointing to see. But again, congrats to kay Rish
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: who won the forty two forty four thousand off one
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five bucks. Just thoughts on this breakdown.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Here, Yeah, I mean overall, I like it.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: I know I had some geno stuff too, right with
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: the Lockett and the Barner and JSN and Barner. Right,
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Barner was a good play, but you knew what you
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: were getting into when you were playing Barner, right, You
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: needed him to realistically outscore Giseki for the most part,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: to be honest with you, or at least get pretty
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: damn close, right, because he was only what five hundred
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: dollars less expensive, so it wasn't like you're saving two
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: thousand or fifteen hundred dollars. I mean he was five
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: hundred bucks. You can five in the five hundred bucks
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: a lot of times at the defense position, right, which
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: is a p off.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: So you knew what you're up against. But I do
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: like that.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: The only thing I think I don't like, and obviously
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: you know is you know, London in a contest like
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: this is going to be pretty popular, and if London's smashing,
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: it's likely other piece of that game likely is going
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: off as well, right, So just throwing him in there
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: as a one off in this kind of field, that's
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: the only thing that I don't agree with. Obviously London
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: can get it done by himself, but if London's really
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: going in there and breaking the slate, I mean there's
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: probably a good chance that someone from Dallas or Kirk
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Cousins at his price point of sixty four hundred is
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: somewhat attached to that. So I mean that's the only
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: other call out I think. But the rest I mean
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: built super good, right, and obviously congrats to the member
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: who kind of put it put it together better, and
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: obviously that's always hurtful, but I mean just pulling pulling
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: lessons out for everyone in the chat that's listening, right.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: I think the London play, like I said, I just
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: think in that game environment, the massive total, if he
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: really gets there at sixty seven hundred or yeah, sixty
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: seven hundred, he's probably attached to Kirk Cousins, who's underpriced,
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: and someone on the Dallas side probably comes with him.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: If that game truly gets there and he hits the ceiling.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like him on the other side like I do.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Like him on the other side of a Dallas Atlanta
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: stack better for like speeding up the game. I talked
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: about this yesterday with my Dak stacks, my overstacks. I
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: said I could run Dak with two or three receiving
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: options and use London on the other side to speed
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: it up and have him coming back. I guess my
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: takeaway is here. You know, I knew Barner still fitted.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: I did not think Barner would get to almost twelve percent,
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: so that was hurtful. I thought he would have been
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: the extra added piece of leverage that I was looking for.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: And obviously the way the whole lineup is set up.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: He still would have been. But getting s like that
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: to then go play the ownership on London, I would
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: have preferred just to play the ownership on Gaseki and
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: get no ownership on Gino and just get that whole
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: stack around the chalk. It would have made more sense,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: it would have fit better, It would have built Gino
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: up for a bigger day. I did still double stack him,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: just saying I didn't get the trade off I was
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: looking for. And I think London still fits in the
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: sense of what I was going to say, where it's
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: not like when I say I made a mistake with
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Jamar Chase or I made a mistake with Lamb, where
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I kind of want them with their quarterback if they
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: actually hit their ceiling. I could get twenty off of
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: London on you know, seven for one hundred and five
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: or something and still have a pretty good day and
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: be fine in this spot. It would have got me
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: ten more points. I would have been at one eighty eight.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't have won, but it wouldn't have done You know,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: you're not expecting JSN to get forty either. On top
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: of the difference with Gaseki getting thirty, like it was
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: seventy to twenty. They outscored them by fifty. That's how
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: big a twov two mistake can be. Overall, I'm not
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: against this lineup. I just I think when I flipped
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: the cards, as we say, you know, when the cards
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: flip and the slate starts and you see this, it's
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: not as ideal. And obviously don't know until the afternoon
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: when this game kicks off, London already was on the
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: first game of the day. Not much I could do
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: at that point, but just to show it, it all
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: kind of made sense. It all kind of fit together there.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: So another thing too, the Cooper Cup, Right, I like
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: that Cooper Cup play a lot because you knew Kyrine
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: was one of the highest projected owned running backs right
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: in a smash spot in a flex where, especially in
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: a field like this, three running backs was definitely a
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: cash staple yesterday and obviously in tournaments it was a huge, hugely.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: Kind of played played roster construction.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Right, So three hundred saving three hundred dollars going to
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Cooper Cup, who is coming off the ten days rest, right,
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: finally he's back in there. Nikola was dealing with the
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: knee injuries and stuff kind of all week, right, The
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: reports came out late that he kind of that same
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: knee that held him out early in the year he reavated.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Now obviously he Yeah, I mean that was pretty ejection
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: and stuff like that. We're not going to get into that,
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: but just the leverage play with with Cooper Cup in
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: a back and forth game environment on the other side
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: of your GINO, I mean.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: I like that play a lot, that leverage play right there.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I didn't even fully think of that
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: until afterwards. It's kind of one of those takeaways that
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: you just see and you're like, yeah, that makes sense
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: because in hindsight, I also would rather just play Cup
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: in the wide receiver and play a Chan in the flex,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: and again that doesn't win me it, but on paper,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: it's just like I can get away with that as well,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: and a Chan would have been similar to London's ownership,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Cup would stay the same same, same, Like you said,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: so probably the London spot instead of just getting a
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: piece of that game, because yeah, you know, he had
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: a touchdown then got injured, but it wouldn't won me
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: at anyway. The mistake was finding a way to still
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: get Kasiki in there and then be able to fit
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: the other stuff around it. So London probably is what
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: you know, London Bridge is falling down, London lineup, this
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: is this is what caused the lineup to fall down,
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: and I definitely think that's a part of it. The
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: big takeaway for me was that and being able to
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: fit the other stuff, getting an extra leverage piece in
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: while still keeping the higher owned chalk in there. It
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: would have been a lot nicer from that perspective, and
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: obviously would have been nice to ship it and get
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: the job done. But let's move on. Let's go to
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: some of these member reviews, these lineups here, and this
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: is the first one. I'll kick it to you. Nay's
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: rude Man schmank Bob from last week is back again.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: I think it's it's Jayden right, Jaden Daniels with Eckler
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: run it back with Neighbors, has the Brown Gasiki Myers Mini,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: I like the Taysom. We'll talk on that in a
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: second Green Bay d and then you know, just you know,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: land it on CD. Lambre your thoughts on this one.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So I want to hit on the first play,
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: the double tight end.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: So like I I like this play Tom if I
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: was using double tight end yesterday. I was playing the
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: value guy in Agaseki, and then I was playing Taysom Hill.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: So every two tight end build I had yesterday was
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: with Taysom Hill. The reason being is because in those lineups,
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: I wasn't playing Kamara, wasn't playing a Lave, so that
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: was a direct leverage right there. Obviously Kamara got there, right,
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Taysom Hill had a great day, but I mean wasn't
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: really needed because Kaseki obviously dusted the field.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: But in a two tight end set yesterday, you're basically
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: playing tea Taysom Hill as a running back, right, as
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: an underpriced running back in that scenario also leverage off
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: of the other popular guys, right.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: So I really liked that combo that that play yesterday,
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Right Taysom Hill, So I really liked that build there.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: The Ceedee Lamb piece usually attacked to Dak. I mean,
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: I just if Ceedee Lamb is gonna go out there
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: and score forty points, that game is probably popping off,
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: and he's probably attached to Dak Prescott, who's cheaper than
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: a Jade and Daniels. So that's the only other thing
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: right there. Ken Eckler and Daniels both get there. Yeah,
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: but Eckler just hasn't been the pass catching guy we've
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: seen when he was in the Chargers, right Jaye. And
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Daniels has just does so much with his legs that
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: they're kind of counter They're they're kind of counterintuitive there
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: those two guys, and then the Molik Neighbors play. I
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: like that as kind of leverage off of Tyrone Tracy
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: as well. Right, if Tyrone Tracy isn't getting there, you
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: have Eckler in Tyrone Tracy's spot, So then go on
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: the other side and spend up for Elik Neighbors, who's
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: also a pivot off of a little bit more expensive
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: than the Drake London's right, more expensive than the Alave's right.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: So and I like that.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: So obviously he didn't get all the way home, but
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: I still think the way he constructed his team is decent.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: Outside the cd Lamb play.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think again. We you know, we're pinpointing it,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: just like a last one with mine with London. It's
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: like Lamb causes the downfall. Right, First of all, Lam's
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: gonna it's just like Chase last week, but you weren't
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: getting away with it this week sixteen. Never gonna cut it.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: There's too much, There wasn't enough value on the slate.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: It seems a bit forced. And then other thing I'll
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: say is this strategy. I mean, first of all, so
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: much chalk in the lineup. And I know Schwang Bob
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: asked for the feedback, so I'm not just hammering him.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: He said too much chalk. Hard to tell DFS is
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: hard on his other post, and I will say, definitely
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: too much chock. And not only that, you took the
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: if people were going this chalk, you're stra down low
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: with Koseki and then playing Hill. I would have wanted
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: that to pump up, leaving Chase Brown as fine because
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: he was obviously the value of the slate. But I
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: would have wanted Barkley, Henry, something like that in there
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: that would take away and do their job, that would
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: pull from a comparable option like Lamar or Hurts by
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: playing Daniels and then pull Lamb down to maybe it's McLaurin,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: because you're still trying to run that stack and it's
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: that's the results oriented. It wouldn't even have got you
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: all the way there. I'm saying, in a perfect world.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: If you could go to like keep Jayden Daniels, swap
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Eckler to Barkley, move Lamb down to Terry mclaur and
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: at least then I like it more on paper because
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: McLaurin pops off helps Jayden. He could still run one
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: in which hurts Eckler, Barkley plugs in and or Henry,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: And I know Henry didn't fall like it's they both
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: had good days, but to say they both would pull
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: from hurts and and Or Lamar who you faded by
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: going to Daniels in the same price. Right, See how
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: you hit all these different concepts in the same spot. Right,
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: You pull Eckler to a receiver nobody's on, You hit
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: off of him on a running back that hurts the quarterbacks,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: no pun intent of it hurts and Lamar, who are there?
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Just you gotta put all those pieces together. That's where,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: like title would say, there's levels to it. That would
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: have been something that made a lot more sense if
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: you were handbuilding this or building it out and thinking
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: through the strategy and the concepts. And again we don't
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: all get there. You just saw with my own stuff
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: super vulnerable. When it comes to that, I try and
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: show as much as I can to show that everybody
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: struggles with this stuff. And that's why we review, because
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: then we're more ready for it the next time. And
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: that's why you continuously can put yourself back in these
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: places and then you get better and better at no
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: different than a golfer winning a golf tournament. You know,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: they had the Sunday scaries. They suck the first time out,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: they get there again, they suck again the third or
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: fourth time they win, and they say, honestly, I've just
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: been in that spot more Now. I felt more comfortable
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: with it, and I was able just to do my
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: stuff and play through my routine, get to it faster.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Like we always talk about, nad's the piece of the puzzle.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: The puzzle that's the key, right, put it together. Don't
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: have the box. You can't see what the winning the
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: result is supposed to look like till after the slate.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: That's what this is all about. So yeah, great lineup,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: but little things. And I think Lamb was the guy there,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: the guy that brought it down. So good job. Go
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: to the next one. I'm gonna talk about this one first.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: I really like this lineup. This is a kind of
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: a play off of what we just talked about shot
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: up to Kate Heart said this was his best lineup
• 43:25
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• 43:28
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• 43:31
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• 43:42
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• 43:44
  Speaker 2: go back to Cade's lineup. I really like this lineup,
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: said if down for the Last Seahawks TV was the
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: last part of that, but had the rams D so
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: you already crushing there and they just kind of hurt
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: you on top. But dak lamb Mooney Brown, Gisekei played
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: some chalk in Tilman, but an awesome secondary stack that
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: actually made sense that didn't fully work out, so it's
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: not about the result. But Shakira almost unowned with no Cooper,
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: and if you were just taking a piece, it was
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: It's hard to say if a guy like Shakiir is
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: actually gonna set off, especially at his price, but is
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: actually gonna set off Josh Josh Allen, because it's like
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: he is he gonna get you two or three tds
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: or is he just gonna come through with a nice value.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: But I loved his secondary stack of a chan who
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: does the work on the ground and then a receiver
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: that's just going completely overlooked. One, two, three, three and
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: a half, three and a four and a half. You know,
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: three and a half to four leverage pieces in here,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: but just nobody was getting to this lineup made so
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: I thought this was super strong. Well, you still use
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: some nice chalk pieces from the slate with ways to
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: get different and specifically with spots like Mooney instead of London,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: No Kamara using a three wide receiver with Tillman where
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: yes he's popular, but you're putting him in with two
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: wide receivers under ten. So go ahead you talk about this.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: But I like this one quite a bit.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like this build quite a bit too. And
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna start with the Shakir play, right. I like
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: the secondary stack there with e Chan of Shakir, but
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: there's there's another level to the Shakiir play too, right.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: Shakure's fifty nine hundred DARNLD.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Mooney's also leverage off of Drake London, but Shakira is
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: also a leverage off of Kris aa Lave right Chrysal
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: Lave with sixty one hundred Shaki's fifty nine hundred right,
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: so two hundred dollars less. You're not only leveraging London
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: with Mooney, you're also double leveraging that wide receivers play
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: right there with the two popular the most popular wide
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: receivers right, And it's in a way that makes sense.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: You're not just throwing a dart at a wall and saying, Okay,
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go in here and play Wandale Robinson right
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: or Romeo Dobbs or whoever right in that same range.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: You're correlating it with a secondary stack right eight Chan
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: gets the ball done on the ground. There's no there's
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: injuries there In Buffalo, they're at home, right, Shakira has.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: Been the guy. So I like that. Play a ton there,
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: and there's there's a couple more levels right to the
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: leverage built into there. The rest of the lineup makes
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: a ton of sense and I like it a lot.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, congrats Roderick. I know, yes, I had the pun
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: with you. I doled out a free membership to you.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: You were one of the winners. You got to get
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: your lineups in every week. It's the same process we
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: get it in. I posted out on X make sure
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: you're following me when you see the takedown breakdown post
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: reply with your lineup that it's that say, but we
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: got all this pre pre canned up. We're not, you know,
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: sort of winging it as we go. Want to make
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: sure we can make this valuable for you as you're
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: watching this. So just for next time, good job, congrats
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: on the great finish twenty sixth place on your first
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: day said as a member. We got him in with
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: the a free membership yesterday. I saw him join the
• 46:40
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• 46:43
  Speaker 2: and hopefully the success can continue and you'll learn more
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: check out the education courses all that stuff. But NDS,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: I like that call too because also it's like a
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: triple trifecta because a Chan, remember my previous version, same
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: price as well as London. So you're playing a Chan,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: you're dropping no over Kamara. Most have Kamara in this spot,
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: or you know, are playing three running backs. You drop
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: down the olave two hundred bucks and you play Mooney
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: instead of London in a double leverage spot there, and
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: realistically the other reason, you know, not results oriented, but
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: just the facts. It's a very solid build. It's still
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: incorporated a ton of leverage, some game theory, and you
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: got almost two hundred points. I know it was a
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: day you needed like two fifty to sixty two. We
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: just saw to win the million, But like two two
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: thirty was really good everywhere, and you had Dak, CD
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Lamb and Shakir all fail you in pretty great spots.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: And so that just goes to show like your most
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: expensive wide receiver, the top dog on the slate probably
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Shakir with no Cooper, with Josh Allen attached, one of
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: the best quarterbacks out there, and then Dak Prescott just
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: a bad day, really great lineup, Kate, keep doing what
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: you're doing. Love to see that this was another one.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Naid's let me see what else I got here. I
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: think I got two more and I think this was
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: the Okay, yeah, this one. I did not like this one,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: but I'll kick it to you first see if it's
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: we dislike it for the same reason I shouldn't even
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: have told you, Just to see what you say, but
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Justin posted it's not a shot at Justin just I
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: really don't like this build overall, but hurts what hurts? Sorry?
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Calkatara aj Brown run it back with Parker Washington, Kenneth Walker, Nikua,
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: some Chalk plays and the Giants d I guess I'm
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: being hard on it. I shouldn't say I don't I
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: hate this line up, but there's a couple of things
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: I don't like about. It's actually not as bad as
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: I thought the more I look at it. But go ahead,
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: I'll let you talk first.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think the Kenneth Walker in Nakua secondary stack.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't hate it.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: I just think it's pretty thin, right with all the
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: stuff coming in Nikoua and a price point there.
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: Number one, I will say.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: There's I get the reason for fading chalk, right, everybody
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: wants to fade chalk, but I mean to have the
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: majority of your spots right as sub five percent guys
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: or sub sub eight percent guys. I think you're just
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: getting a little thin, to be honest. Overall, Now, I
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: don't know the size of the tournament here.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, this is sixteen hundred. Then didn't even cash.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean I don't. I don't hate it
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: the giants D plugging in them. I didn't like plugging
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: in the most popular projected D on the slate unless
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: it was attached to like a Tyrone Tracy or something
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: like that, right to kind of middle that ownership down
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: a little bit. So didn't love that. I get it, right,
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: D is kind of a punt off position. I will say,
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: the run back in a stack like that Parker Wathingon's
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: probably a little thin, to be honest, when you're also
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: playing the chalk other value guy in Cedric Tillman, right,
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: I like kind of using him as a leverage off
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: of those other chalky receivers.
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: I get it, it's part of the runback.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: But if really chick, if kelkin Tara, Jalen Hurts, and
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: A J. Brown are all smashing at their price points,
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: number one, you want Kelkintara to outscore Agasicki or one
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: of those other tight ends in that same range. Coming
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: back with a guy like Parker Washington, I just don't
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: think he has the kind of ceiling to really.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: Push those guys to their extent.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: I probably would have liked like an Evan Ingram or
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: something like that in that runback spot there, because you're
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: also getting more unique in a in a way it
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: makes sense at the tight end position, right, So I
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: think that's the that's the number one thing there.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: This just plugging in Cedric Tillman value. I don't I
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: don't hate that.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: But again you're you're plugging in a leverage value guy
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: in Parker, Washington, but then also playing the kind of popular, popular.
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: Chalk right value guy too. So I mean that's a
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: couple of things there.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: But overall, I mean, I don't think it's as terrible
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: as kind of first glance, because there is there is
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: some thought in secondary stack and correlation built into there.
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: It's just the way you go about it. I just
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: think probably wasn't the way that I would have But
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: that's my.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Better takeaway, Like I'll take it from there because I
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: think that. So it was in the Big Guy, So
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: it was in a in our two thousand person rake
• 50:59
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• 51:12
  Speaker 2: talk about it so much. But it was in the
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: big Guy, he said, so of two thousand, which we
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: filled it last week, he came sixteen forty fifth. So
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: way down the board, I think where I'm not gonna
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: be hard on it because the construction is you know again,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: it's I'll talk about it more in a second, but
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: hurts too, aj Brown Calcultara. I always like fitting the
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: cheaper tight end in to make it work. It's almost
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: like the Burrow Chase Gaseki thing where I could use
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: a cheap tight end to make it all work. Or
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: I used Gino with Barterer and lock it and got
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: that wrong a little bit. But just to say it,
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: that's part of it. A runback. Fine. Some chalk piece
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: is fine, Brown Tillman, and the D, the D being
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: the chalk is kind of one thing too, like D
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: is super chalk like that. I know it just fits
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: it and makes it work, but I just felt like
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: this was thin for outcomes required. Like I don't even
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: think there's too much leverage. I know there's only four
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: leverage plays kind of built in there, and I don't
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: think it hurts was that owned. But we'll see. But
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: my takeaway would be, like you need a lot of
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: perfect outcomes from this other stuff, like to have cal
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: Katera Washington on top of Nakua. All be the pieces
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: required on top of Walker, like you have no Camara,
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: you have no for some of the other guys that
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: we talk about, Ogaseeki, you have no O lave An,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: the ones that did get their hay Chan like ones
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: that did get there and didn't get there Barkley, you're
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: obviously playing against that. So no, Henry No. Like going
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: back to my original conversation, I don't see where you
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: had many of the thirty point possibilities built in. You
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: had the best value and maybe two if they hit together,
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: but then you still needed a lot of perfect outcomes.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: You need to grant kal Katara to rise from the
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: abyss and make it happen for you needed Parker Washington
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: in the first game. Anybody was even talking about him
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: to come through. So does the construction make sense? Yes, perfect,
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: perfect construction overall, Like you did the right stuff to
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: correlate it, but on this particular slate and some of
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: the outcomes that you forced yourself in the kneeding and
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: then where you did trust the chalk, it was like
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: you you did trust chalk, but kind of outside of
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: what would have been the upper tier. So I think
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: you left out some of the better chalk, right, no Kamara, Nogaseki,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: no Hn, none of those spots to go to a
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: defense chalk, complete receiver chase chalk, which he did get
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: there and doesn't matter when he got there, he got there.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: My point is it's, you know, some of the chalk
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: that you chose outside of the obvious one were a
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: little bit more of the risky chalk and the you
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: know needed to happen again or need to get a
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: lot of things to go your way on top of
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: already needing a lot of things to go your way,
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: just to fit in aj Brown and Hurtz. And that
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: was my original conversation saying, even though we know they're
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: the thirty point guys, which one sort of had the
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: best chance at the outcome. You knew Barkley could eat
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: into those guys. You knew DeVante Smith could be a
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: guy that gets into the mix and takes it away
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: from them. You knew there was other guys on the
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: slate that could do that. There's not much game theory
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: to it. Kind of needs too like where we talked
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: to what we talked about before, Like if you're playing Hurts,
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: you're leaving out Lamar, You're leaving out Henry, You're leaving
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: out Kamara, You're leaving out a Chan, You're leaving out
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: you know, tyreek Hill, You're leaving all these other dudes
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: for cal Kato, Washington, Nakua and Tillman. You're leaving yourself
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: thin out of the gate. So even though it looks
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: good on paper and you've got good construction, let's use
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: a DFS Baseball one daid's you're in the baseball streets.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: Many that watches probably are. I can make any lineup
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: look stacked and good. I can run a four to
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: four to one on FanDuel, or I can run a
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: five to two to one with two nice pitchers on
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: DraftKings and it looks good. But if there's fifteen games
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: on the slate and those are two of the worst
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: stacks on the slate, or two of the stacks that
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: are lowered down the board, again, anything could happen. But
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: I am I'm setting myself up for failure probably even
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: though or in the big likelihood, needing a lot of
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: things to go my way. Even though the lineup makes
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: sense on paper, you get it.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, for for sure, And I think you you
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: hit on it a lot, right, I mean, I don't
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: think the right the Jalen Hurts and A J. Brown
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: and even the Calkin Tara are is a terrible stack.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: But in the nature of the slate yesterday, I mean,
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Calcin Tara more expensive than Koseki, who's in a much
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: better role. Right, Jalen Hurts is what the most expensive
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: quarterback on the slate when he's also got Saquon Barkley,
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: When Jalen Hurts just vaulted all three of Saquon's touchdowns
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: last week. Right, So like there's just a lot of
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: stuff pulling away from already expensive pieces, whereas you just
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: had a lot of other great plays in underpriced roles.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: So I think there's a there's an aspect of, like
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: you said, right, starting yourself too thin. And how I
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: guess the question is how how do I know as
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: a builder, right or as justin here going in I
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: mean all the content, right, you could just helping use
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: the ship demiser right, use projections and kind of see
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: even start with uh optimal build in ship demizer right
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: and see what kind of the projections are, what kind
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: of a cash build is, and give yourself kind of
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: a framework so you know, right, you kind of have
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: it kind of hones in your lens right of the
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: slate based on what projections are, what other people in
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: the contest in the industry are going to build like,
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: so that way you kind of have a shell and
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: you kind of know what the good plays are and
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: then build in a couple leverage plays.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: We see a lot of these winners have three leverage
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: plays built in with a bunch of.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: Chalks arounding it. So just not going too thin, right.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: There's a there's a thing for leverage right and contrarian build,
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: but there's a such thing as over contrarian or over
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: leveraged situation right where you kind of just leverage yourself
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: right out of the slate to be honest.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think most people start with the quarterback.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: So I'll say that I know a lot of people
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: say Okay, I'm going jail and hurts. I want to
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: get aj Brown a Calcatari is fine. I think that
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: was the best starting point for you. Like, if you're
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: doing it, I get it, But then what does the
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: rest of the build do, And then why are you
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: going completely off the board at all these other places
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: when you have those three in Chase Brown makes perfect sense?
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: After that, I think it goes a little bit off
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: the board using the tools, like not even close to
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: optimal ranges of other spots, Like you go down here
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: GENO better stack ranking, you know on our tools versus
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: you know, seven point twenty four here optimal was better.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Jsn's optimal was better, like all this, and optimal goes
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: with their numbers. If you look projection way better fifteen
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: point three for JSN, way better on aj Brown eighteen
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: point But it factors in price and then all the
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: other games on the slate to say what's more optimal.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: And that's what I'm saying. You're setting yourself up there
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: for a bit of failure, even though your starting point
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: is great and makes sense. It's that you were really
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: going to have a tough time, right Calcatara is just
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: not going to get there very often. Parker Washington not
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: going to get there very often, and was actually coming
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: in with ownership and came in even higher. So stack
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: rankings hurts way down the board. It's not that they're
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: not valuable or you can't get there with them, it's
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: that you once you did that, that was probably your best
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: starting point. Then you have to build the rest of
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: the lineup. When the rest of the lineup looks like
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: that and needs everything else to go your favor, probably
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: not the best lineup to choose. And that's what I
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: was saying earlier in large fields. Let that outcome happen
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: because it's really gonna pay off what it does. Throw
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: it in there. But in your main five max that
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: you're in, or maybe you only had one in the
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: big guy, I don't know. You said my best lineup,
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: so maybe you put all five of them. I'm not
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: necessarily choosing that for one of my five. So just
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: an example there. And the last lineup that we're going
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: to review, getting close to an hour here is fine.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: But Shive Nation member said, if Pooka doesn't get ejected,
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: my auntie probably has a you know what, you know,
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: the ifs and butts and we win all the money.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: So I love the commentary, but just to note two
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: hundred and seven points Geno, JSN, Puka. Then it had Brown, Eckler, Giseki, Kamara,
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Jags read look different, d not the chalk JSN and
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Geno leverage read Nikua leverage. But Nikua's with that stack,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: so he kind of just fits it. Solid build right,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: kind of goes against you know. That's why I brought
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: this up too. The other thing about the Hurts one
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: starting point probably Geno, JSN Nakua fill in the chalk
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: like the other lineup did. Brown, Okay, Eckler became Chocolate.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: That made sense to me. Gaseki's already a great play.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to fool around there and try and
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: get Barnery in. I can still fit Kamara and Okay
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: I land on a defense that's different. I'm not playing Hurts,
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: I'm not playing Barkley, I'm not playing aj Brown. I'll
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: just take it and see what happens for that. This
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: is another great lineup talking and again not about the result, folks.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: It's simple. It's the build. We just talked through it.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Go ahead and aid's I'll let you talk about it.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: But already had enough leverage in and could still fit
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  Speaker 2: in all the chalk. That made sense. Great, great, differentiators
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  Speaker 2: and of the crew that we talked about, fit a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the good ones in there and made it
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  Speaker 2: work with some differentiators too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'll I'll start. I love the build.
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  Speaker 3: I think the JAG's flipping over too, from the Giants
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  Speaker 3: to the Jags when you're not playing the aj Brown
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  Speaker 3: Who's popular, right, Sae Kwon Barkley Jalen Hurts. I think
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  Speaker 3: that's an amazing leverage play. It's a punt away position.
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  Speaker 3: You knew the Giants were projected to be the highest
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  Speaker 3: o OneD defense at the same price, right, so just
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  Speaker 3: flipping there at a onesie position.
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  Speaker 4: I really like that.
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  Speaker 3: The Jayden Reid play I like a lot, not because
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  Speaker 3: I'm a Packers fan or all that. Throw the homer
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  Speaker 3: as on the side, but there's leverage built into it.
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  Speaker 3: He's sandwich between Drake London, any sandwich between Chris Alave.
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  Speaker 3: You have Elvin Kamara already in the team with no
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  Speaker 3: Derek Carstack. How likely is it for Alvin Kamara at
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  Speaker 3: his price point and Chris A Lave at the same
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  Speaker 3: price point to both get there in a non stacked game, right?
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  Speaker 3: I just think it's pretty thin. Jayden Reid has one
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  Speaker 3: of the best matchups on the slate. Right, Detroit pass
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  Speaker 3: defense is horrible. Jayden Reid's a slot guy right in
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  Speaker 3: the weather, the short dump off plays right, terrible weather,
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  Speaker 3: and I mean he missed a couple of long ones
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  Speaker 3: and really could have absolutely nuked slate. But it wasn't
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  Speaker 3: result oriented. It was the leverage built in to the
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  Speaker 3: lineup getting to a guy like Jayden Reid, who sandwiched
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  Speaker 3: between the two most popular plays in the slate, the
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  Speaker 3: NKUA play, another leverage play off of the Kyron Williams right,
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  Speaker 3: because you don't have the salary you get up there.
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  Speaker 3: Why not Nikula right, who was on quote unquote limited
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  Speaker 3: stamps coming back and was literally throwing the ball every
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  Speaker 3: single time he was on the field right in that
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  Speaker 3: primetime game there. Obviously he got ejected and that was soft.
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  Speaker 3: But overall, I mean, I love.
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  Speaker 4: This build a ton, very good, very good correlation, very
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  Speaker 4: good leverage and theory behind it, but still playing the
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  Speaker 4: good plays around kind of your leverage plays. So overall
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  Speaker 4: amazing build for sure.
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  Speaker 2: How much was reed yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: Sixty four hundred?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that call, just sandwiched in between and
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  Speaker 2: when you already have brown Eckler, who you thought would
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  Speaker 2: get some late steam Gaseki Kamara. I mean you already
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  Speaker 2: got four pretty big pieces built in there. I liked
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  Speaker 2: finding that versus landing on one of the others because
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  Speaker 2: my thought was, again, you could have moved it around some,
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  Speaker 2: but like if this line, it would be a lot
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  Speaker 2: more chalky and not have this leverage built in as much.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: If they went to you know, Myers and then put
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  Speaker 2: in a cup and then up the defense, maybe get
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: to the Philly on the opposite side and still have
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  Speaker 2: a really great day and get everything in there, but
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: you would add a lot more chalk too. So I
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: think this is building the right way. I think this
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: is building for upside while still playing some of the
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  Speaker 2: good plays. It's kind of the opposite effect of the
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: one we just talked about, where started in a place
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  Speaker 2: that was already unique enough and then was able to say, Okay,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: now I can fit in the pieces and land on
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  Speaker 2: one that's another one off and a defense that's another
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  Speaker 2: one off, which I was like getting different at d anyway,
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I didn't really love going away from
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: all the good chalk to land on the Giants as
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: the most chalky defense, you know what I mean. That's
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: kind of one of the thing additional.
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  Speaker 3: Take too on the one off right with the Jada Reid.
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  Speaker 3: Not only is he leveraged there too, but it's also
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  Speaker 3: when you looking at leverage plays in these kind of
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: winning lineups, they're not close your eyes, throw a dart
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  Speaker 3: at the wall type thing. They're good plays in good scripts,
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  Speaker 3: high total, a target game on the stone, a close
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  Speaker 3: spread as the wide receiver one in an offense that
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: passes right sixty plus percent of the time right. So
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  Speaker 3: it's just like you're not going off and playing two
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  Speaker 3: two at well or just some random dude right out
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  Speaker 3: of the air.
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  Speaker 4: You're playing good guys that are just leveraged on the slate.
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  Speaker 4: So I think that's another taking calling point. You're not
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: trying to find that diamond in the rough, right, It's
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: just you can play good plays that are just not
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: not owned right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, GINO and JSN with no DK metcalf imagine you
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like that, that's an example right there,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: and there's no ownership on them. You talked about Reid
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: in the weather too, on top of the matchup that
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: he already had was good. It was now it's a
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: little bit crazy weather. Maybe they're doing the shorter passes
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: checking it down more. Plus you can still catch balls,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: catch shushdowns, things like that that are our bigger plays
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: if there is opportunity for them. So a four percent
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: read is not you know, it's not like you found
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: some diamond in the rough. You found a stud that's lowone,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: you got JSN super low and filling in. You got
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  Speaker 2: lots of good leverage with actual good plays and good
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: spots and not just completely off the board trying to
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: make other stuff work. So something we can all work better.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: We're work on to get better. So I think that's
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: going to cover it for today. Any final thoughts from
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