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Vikings beat the Bears in OT, The Refs are Blind, Cranberry beer is good | TSH Ep. 68 · The Skol Hop

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  Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome into another episode of
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  Speaker 1: the School Hop.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Evan, I'm Austin. Where's a couple of dudes from Iowa.
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  Speaker 2: We like drinking beer talking about the Vikings and you
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  Speaker 2: may have noticed we've got front of the show forest
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  Speaker 2: here this week. Talk about the Bears.
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  Speaker 1: Then, regardless of the outcome, though we can all complain
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  Speaker 1: about how terrible the officiating wasn't that game?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, But after we talked about that, we kind of
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  Speaker 2: brought up the idea that maybe Daniel Jones might be
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  Speaker 2: a Viking here soon. Maybe by the time you're listening
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  Speaker 2: to this, he's somewhere else and it doesn't matter. But
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  Speaker 2: we also talk about the upcoming Vikings Cardinals game. So
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  Speaker 2: join me in a happy place, grab a beer, and
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  Speaker 2: let's have some fun.
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  Speaker 3: School Let's skull Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: good stuff. All right. Well, one thing we don't have
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  Speaker 2: to give a shot to is purple Punishments. One. We
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  Speaker 2: have a guest on Welcome Back Forrest. Forrest's been shoot
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  Speaker 2: five six months since Force is draft. I see you
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  Speaker 2: call me back just so you can harass me on
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  Speaker 2: this Hey podcast. The invite always stands for you to
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  Speaker 2: be on the show. Definitely stands during a Vikings Bears week,
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  Speaker 2: and it kind of helps that the Vikings beat the Bears.
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  Speaker 2: So just a human door mat, I appreciate them, always
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  Speaker 2: glad to come, and it's always great every time. But
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  Speaker 2: you're also lucky because not that we would have made
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  Speaker 2: him participate in the purple punishments. But none of us
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  Speaker 2: have to do purple punishments because preseason we both picked
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  Speaker 2: a Vikings win over the Bears. Go figure, and we
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  Speaker 2: were both right. Although next week, did you take a look?
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  Speaker 1: I think one of us picked a win and one
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  Speaker 1: of us picked a loss, which means there's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a wheel spin no matter what.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I picked a loss in the preseason boy against
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  Speaker 2: the Cardinals, and you picked a win. So depending on
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  Speaker 2: what happens, one of us will absolutely have to spin
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  Speaker 2: the wheel next week, but no wheel this week. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They're coming off that loss against Seattle, so yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that'll be a tough game. We'll get to the Cardinals
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  Speaker 2: Vikings game here towards the end of the episode. But
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  Speaker 2: we got to talk Vikings Bears, Yeah we do, and
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  Speaker 2: we get to talk Vikings Bears. Sorry Forrest, No, I
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  Speaker 2: like to talk about the Bears because they're the Bears.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, just grab your heart strings and just rip
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  Speaker 2: them out the last two weeks straight and it helps
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  Speaker 2: that you're more of a Michigan wolverinees fan. Yeah, there
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  Speaker 2: you go. Well, and I almost did it, of I
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  Speaker 2: almost completely glossed.
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  Speaker 1: We can't talk about the Vikings until we've opened these beers.
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  Speaker 2: I guess I'm too excited about this win of the Bears.
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  Speaker 2: But nothing should ever oversight be oversight, nothing should ever oversee.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds like I've already had sixteen beers already, but
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  Speaker 2: I haven't. I promise I haven't had any this week.
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  Speaker 2: I brought the beer. Yeah you did, and we are
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  Speaker 2: trying a beer from back Pocket Brewing. Where are they
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  Speaker 2: out of? Do you remember col Coralville? It says on
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  Speaker 2: the cane. Yeah, thanks, so it's their winter lagger. It
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  Speaker 2: is a Cranberry lagger. Have either of you ever had
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  Speaker 2: this one? No, I do not believe, though I'm kind
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  Speaker 2: of surprised you haven't had this one for us. You
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  Speaker 2: probably tried. Well, you're untapped, says well over what six
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  Speaker 2: thousand different beers? Yeah, it's since twenty thirteen, but yes,
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  Speaker 2: I've had quite a few of myself. Well, I am
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  Speaker 2: all that to say, I'm surprised you haven't tried it,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm excited to try this one. Yeah, absolutely cracked
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  Speaker 2: these open. All right. I'm always kind of nervous when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to a fruity beer. But this one says cranberry,
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  Speaker 2: and of the fruits cranberries are, I mean, they're not
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  Speaker 2: super fruity, they're not crazy in your face. They can
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  Speaker 2: be kind of bitter too, So you're getting into the
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  Speaker 2: Thanksgiving all day early here. Absolutely. All right, So back
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  Speaker 2: pocket Winter Lagger, Evan, what do you think?
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  Speaker 1: It's nice and golden, which surprises me. We were kind
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  Speaker 1: of wandering out loud before we hit record. Is it
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  Speaker 1: going to be like pink or red? And it's definitely not.
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  Speaker 1: It's got this golden color to it. And I smelled
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  Speaker 1: it and it's not like overpoweringly cranberry.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can notice it. You can definitely tell there's
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  Speaker 2: some fruit going on there, but it's like a I
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  Speaker 2: think you said there was some other spices and orange
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  Speaker 2: peel or something. Yeah, let's see orange peel maybe. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: So the can reads are easy drinking. Crisp Clean Lager
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  Speaker 2: is an aged cranberry and orange tea with a blend
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  Speaker 2: of wintry spices. So yeah, I'm getting that just from
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  Speaker 2: a smell that that sounds pretty Yeah, a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of that cinnamon I think smell to it.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, well, let's scold these up and try them.
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  Speaker 1: Don't smash my glass in the middle school school.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty good. Oh yeah, I like that. Oh
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  Speaker 2: yeah much like was it last week we had the
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  Speaker 2: pumpkin with Benefits or the week before? Yeah, two weeks ago,
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  Speaker 2: I think the Millstream Pumpkin with Benefits. Yeah, at that
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  Speaker 2: point we said that that was more of an Amber
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  Speaker 2: blogger with like a hint, a nice hint of pumpkin.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely something you could drink during your Thanksgiving dinner or
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  Speaker 2: watching football afterwards. I'll say the same for this. This
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  Speaker 2: would be a nice one to drink during or after
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  Speaker 2: your Thanksgiving dinner. Agreed. That description on the can I
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  Speaker 2: think was kind of perfect. I think it does. It's
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  Speaker 2: nice light, I think as that like all spice type.
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  Speaker 1: In there, but it's again not so overpowering that you're like, whoa,
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  Speaker 1: that's too much. It's just it's a nice coal the
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  Speaker 1: easy drinking lagger with some of that wintery spice mixed in.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I think it said it's five point two percent,
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  Speaker 2: which I mean, there are definitely lighter beers out there,
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  Speaker 2: but that's that's not bad at all when you're talking
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  Speaker 2: about a craft beer from a place that puts out
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  Speaker 2: higher content and higher quality beers like that too. This
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  Speaker 2: is good quality. You can definitely see through. It tastes
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  Speaker 2: really good, and you can have quite a few without
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  Speaker 2: ruining your next day. Yeah, I like it a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks back Pocket for brewing such a good Fall festive beer.
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  Speaker 1: We've got some more down here, so if you guys
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  Speaker 1: want to fill up those, yeah, get them nice and full.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you had another one, yeah, I was ready. If
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  Speaker 2: you want to pour one for me, sure, that'd be great.
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  Speaker 1: While you guys are pouring those up, let's start talking
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  Speaker 1: about this Vikings Bears game.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so excited. Apparently you're probably not as excited as
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm excited with some things I saw from
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  Speaker 2: the Bears, right, that's fair. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: I saw a really funny tweet today that said it
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  Speaker 1: was like a meme and the guy was saying something like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, he looks like Patrick Mahomes at least like
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  Speaker 1: ten or fifteen plays a game, So I thought that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if I would go to
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  Speaker 2: that extent, but he definitely had one of his better games,
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  Speaker 2: and he was you could definitely see why he won
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  Speaker 2: the Heisman. A couple of his junior year of college
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  Speaker 2: and why he was the number one draft pick.
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  Speaker 1: So he was frustrating us, Like We're just like, how
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  Speaker 1: does he keep making these passes and then like he,
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  Speaker 1: you know, weave his way out of traffic and get
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  Speaker 1: a first down on his feet. Like what it was
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  Speaker 1: frustrating to watch from a defensive end, I will say,
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  Speaker 1: and I completely agree Caleb Williams. We're die hard Fightings fans, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: but it's plain to see when a player is good. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: We've said.
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  Speaker 2: For years Aaron Rodgers is one of the best quarterbacks
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  Speaker 2: football and we hate him because he was a packer.
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  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams played incredible. He had probably five or six
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  Speaker 2: passes throughout the game that you'd see a Viking out
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  Speaker 2: of nowhere, just diving and it looked like maybe there
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  Speaker 2: was a hole in the Viking's hand, because how else
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  Speaker 2: was that pass completed? About five or six times. It's
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  Speaker 2: like to thread the needle to have the guts to
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  Speaker 2: throw a ball like that, and usually it was on
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  Speaker 2: the run. Usually he was being chased down by Harrison
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  Speaker 2: Smith or you know, Jonathan gernaderah somebody, and he always
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  Speaker 2: just threw it out there on a rope and barely
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  Speaker 2: completed it. But hey, barely is still a completion that
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  Speaker 2: he's got a lot of guts, a lot of nerve,
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  Speaker 2: and you're not seeing him flinch in the face of
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  Speaker 2: a frustrating season. Yeah, what, I what I appreciate. I
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  Speaker 2: think the most on this game was he was locked
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  Speaker 2: in with the you know, scanning the field when he
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  Speaker 2: did have time, not just settling, you know, for just
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  Speaker 2: running it. You know, he if he found something open downfield,
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  Speaker 2: like he said, he was passing it while he was running.
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  Speaker 2: So that was encouraging.
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  Speaker 1: It must be nice to have a quarterback that isn't
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  Speaker 1: a running back at heart.
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  Speaker 2: Right now. Yeah, I mean he's definitely shown more in
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  Speaker 2: his first year than Justin Fields did in his first year.
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  Speaker 2: And granted it's a whole different team, but still, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: if you're Bears fans, if you're hanging on to something,
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  Speaker 2: I guess that that's one thing to hang on to,
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  Speaker 2: where you know, he's he's shown enough I think this
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  Speaker 2: season to give glimmers of hope. So absolutely so. First,
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  Speaker 2: I've got kind of a long statement and I want
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  Speaker 2: you to, when I'm done with it, kind of tell
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  Speaker 2: me if you agree. Disagree, agree with some, disagree with some.
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  Speaker 2: What you think about this statement, I don't like it.
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  Speaker 2: So I think prior to the Vikings Bears game, the
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  Speaker 2: general consensus was Matt, not Brian, Matt Everfluse a callback
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  Speaker 2: to last week, Everflus was probably on the way out.
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  Speaker 2: And if it were a different team than the Bears,
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  Speaker 2: who typically don't fire coaches mid season, something you told
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  Speaker 2: me weeks ago. If it were a different team, he
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  Speaker 2: may have already been fired. So was that kind of
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  Speaker 2: the general consensus is that Matt Eberflus is coaching for
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  Speaker 2: his life and he's probably losing his job. Prior to
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  Speaker 2: the Vikings game, I would definitely say that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: and not to jump your question, but even during this
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  Speaker 2: Bears Vikings game, there's so much coaching mismanagement. I would say,
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  Speaker 2: you just kind of scratch your head of how this
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  Speaker 2: guy still has a job so well. And to kind
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  Speaker 2: of jump into the second part of that was maybe
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  Speaker 2: this Vikings Bears games, or this Vikings Bears game for
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  Speaker 2: the Bears, maybe showed that there might be something. Everfluce
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  Speaker 2: isn't totally cooked yet, Yes, is he still a surefire
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  Speaker 2: shoeing to be fired? Come Black Monday in January, or
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  Speaker 2: do you think he's coaching another year? No, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think so. He's a defensive minded coach, and I mean,
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  Speaker 2: while the Bears play decent defense, you know, I think
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  Speaker 2: they make enough mistakes even on the defensive side of
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  Speaker 2: the ball. But now he just he doesn't have good
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  Speaker 2: in game decision making. So okay, all right, See, I
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  Speaker 2: would I think Bears fans in general, if the organization
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  Speaker 2: decides to let him roll another year, you're gonna see riots.
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  Speaker 2: I can understand that, but I would have thought he
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  Speaker 2: might have been doing some work to maybe soften some
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  Speaker 2: people's hearts towards that. And that's not just like a
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  Speaker 2: Vikings fan thinking, oh, everyth Loos is terrible. I hope
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  Speaker 2: they keep him for another year. Honestly, if you want
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  Speaker 2: my honest fie feedback, I mean, you look at the
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  Speaker 2: last two games where the bearshifts shown life. They have
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  Speaker 2: really the new OC you know, the old quarterback coach,
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: you know, with with him taking over after Waldron, and
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  Speaker 2: I forget what his name is right off the top
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  Speaker 2: of my head, but he's I mean, you've seen life
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  Speaker 2: in the offense, and I think they're responding to it.
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  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams seems to be responding to it, even though
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  Speaker 2: it's come up with two losses, but the Bears have
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  Speaker 2: been in at both games, so they've been one player.
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  Speaker 2: I don't get me wrong, I'm not recommending that he'd
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  Speaker 2: be promoted to head coach by any means, but it
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  Speaker 2: goes back to the idea that maybe we just need
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  Speaker 2: another change with the head coach position because offense seems
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  Speaker 2: to be clicking a little bit more. So. Did you
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: guys watch that video that real that I said, oh
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  Speaker 2: yeah today? Was it the one that I sent you
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  Speaker 2: a few weeks ago about how the Bears will have
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  Speaker 2: a coach in GM and then they'll come in and
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  Speaker 2: it's the old quarterback, so they've draft a new guy,
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  Speaker 2: and then a couple of years and the coach and
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  Speaker 2: GM are gone and then they're.
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  Speaker 1: Still with the Yeah, it's an ugly cycle, the cycle
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  Speaker 1: that the Bears have kind of going on, and we're
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  Speaker 1: not really experiencing that in Minnesota because we cleaned house
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  Speaker 1: three years ago now, and it's seems like in Minneapolis
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  Speaker 1: that Koisia Dopa Mensa and Kevin O'Connell have a really
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  Speaker 1: good working relationship and they're bringing in good players. The
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two draft is still kind of out there
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  Speaker 1: as like one that could be gone back to and redone.
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  Speaker 2: Really, all of the draft picks you you could meticulously
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  Speaker 2: look at and say good or bad.
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  Speaker 1: There's one draft pick that actually had a really good
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  Speaker 1: game Drafted in twenty three, Jordan Addison had one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and sixty two yards his best game as a Viking,
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  Speaker 1: and a touchdown. Meanwhile, Justin Jefferson is, you know, being
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  Speaker 1: bracketed by three Bears the whole time.
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  Speaker 2: So when you said Addison's stats out loud, I looked
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  Speaker 2: into Forrest's eyes and I just saw all the life
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  Speaker 2: just erine out of his eyes. Right there? Is there
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  Speaker 2: a single tier coming out?
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Well, I think coming back to the Bears though,
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  Speaker 1: like as a Bears fan, you're saying you want the
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  Speaker 1: coach to be fired, you want eber Flus gone, and
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  Speaker 1: you want this cycle to.
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  Speaker 2: Contin you or no, I don't want the cycle continue,
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  Speaker 2: but obviously you cannot. I just don't know how you
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: can be like as a Bear's ownership, be like this
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  Speaker 2: is we're making headway now after it seems like last
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: year what we ended up what seven and eight or whatever, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I think the Vikings and Bears dead. I mean, granted, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we've lost a couple of close ones we should have won,
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  Speaker 2: but uh, I just don't see how this is moving
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  Speaker 2: forward in the right direction. So that's fair.
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  Speaker 1: And who knows, maybe getting rid of Eberfluce is the
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  Speaker 1: cycle breaking move that gets this franchise out of the dumps.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you never know, it's it's it's a roll of
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: the dice. But I just think you gotta you gotta
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: roll the dice that I don't think what we have
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: currently is the answer.
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  Speaker 1: So you think John Gruden makes his way to Chicago,
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  Speaker 1: I think John Druden like Brian Flores are probably both
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  Speaker 1: pretty hard pressed to get head coaching opportunities in the
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  Speaker 1: NFL due.
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  Speaker 2: To their litigation with the league specifically. So I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Gruden's obviously been a good coach, but we've seen older
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: coaches like him the game has passed them by. So
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about that, but it'd be fun to watch. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I don't I don't think they like.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think because I think Ben Johnson from Detroit
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  Speaker 1: he's going to be I think he's.
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  Speaker 2: Been n I just don't know if they would allow
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  Speaker 2: him go to Arrival.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was just about to say. I
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  Speaker 1: don't see that happening. Same with Brian Flores. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: see the Vikings being that willing to allow him to go.
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  Speaker 2: Well something about that too, if if they're still even
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  Speaker 2: under contract, if they're not under contract with their team,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: then but an NFL team cannot block one of their
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  Speaker 2: coordinators from interviewing for a head coaching position or a
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  Speaker 2: higher position than they're currently in with their team, because
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: the league won't allow them to block that if it's
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  Speaker 2: for a higher position. And I think that's the right,
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  Speaker 2: regardless of division or whatever, should not hinder someone to
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  Speaker 2: have a different opportunity, a better opportunity. So I think
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  Speaker 2: the most they could do is, like the Lions would
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  Speaker 2: be given the first right to give Ben Johnson like
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  Speaker 2: an assistant head coach role if he doesn't already have that,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: or like a co head coach, you know, something crazy
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  Speaker 2: like that, Like that's the only way they'd be able
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  Speaker 2: to keep him without Ben Johnson or whoever it is saying,
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  Speaker 2: because they could always say like I'm good, I don't
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  Speaker 2: want an interview for anything. They don't have to, which
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  Speaker 2: I think Ben Johnson did last offseason the Lions offensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 2: He just he either didn't interview anywhere or he did
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  Speaker 2: a couple of places and ultimately was like, yeah, I'm good,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: I want to stick it here. Yeah, but you do
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: bring up a good point. I mean, Brian Flora is
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  Speaker 2: making a name for himself this year with turn around
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: that DEFENSI of yours. It'll be interesting to see if
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: he gets some opportunity. I think with Flora specifically, he
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I think the doors would be open, but I don't
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: think any team would allow themselves to hire him as
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: the head coach if he's still because he still has
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: he's still suing the league. Yeah, that's still going on.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I'd be tough to hire him until that finishes. And
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: if Flora's wins that maybe he gets blackballed like Kaepernick did,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: and that's why I should. But I think Flora's and
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: as a Vikings fan, I'm kind of okay with it.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: But I think Flora's he may Ultimately, it might be
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: a long time before he gets another shot at a
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: head coaching job, or it might just happen. I might
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: be an idiot and he might get it here in
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: the next few months.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: But anyways, well, speaking of the defense, something we do
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: we've been doing this season is we've been going through
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: roses and thorns, some good things and some bad things
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: from the game. So we've got some roses and thorns here.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Feel free to add anything that you see from the
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Bears side. But let's go backwards this time. Let's start
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: with the thorns. Okay, kind of do bad news first,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: then good news sound good's that's fine with me. So
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I'll start with the first thorn. And we were just
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: talking about them, Brian Flores. The defense looked really good
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: for most of the game, good enough for most of
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: the game, but man, they crumbled in that final little
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: bit there, and you allow the Bears to come all
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: the way back and have this massive comeback. And I
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: know he's not the special teams coordinator, so the faux
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: pas on the sure sidekick isn't necessarily his fault, but man,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: the Vikings should have ever been in that situation to
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: begin with. They had a ninety nine point nine percent
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: chance to win the game with fifty some seconds on
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: the clock, and that's again not necessarily the defense, but
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: it was the defense that gave up all of those
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: points to put them in those positions. There were those big,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: huge shots that Caleb Williams took down the field, finding
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: his guys, and those first downs that he was able
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: to get on his legs too. He was wheeling and
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: dealing and the defense just could not figure out how
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: to stop them.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, and first and foremost credit to the Bears for
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: taking the opportunities that were presented to them. I mean,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: they still had to convert that on sidekick. They still
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: had to make that big plass play pass play first
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: on site kick conversion in this new kicking rule. Yeah,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: of course it happens against the who knew that the
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Bears would be the first to do this. But yeah,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: even after that, they still had to throw a twenty
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: plus yard play to DJ Moore right and then allow
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: and this is special teams would allow that that kick
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: to go through, which I mean, good kickers are going
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: to make kicks. He had already had one block. You're
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: not statistically probably going to get the next one block
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: unless it's you know, the end of the game and
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: then the first one of the next game. But that's
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: that's I don't think that's on the kicker that's on
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: the line exactly to get their blocks, you know. But yeah,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: first and foremost credit to the Bears for actually taking
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: those opportunities. But I mean to only allow sixteen points
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: for fifty nine and a half minutes plus and then
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: to crumble, I mean it was a lah the you
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: and I Panthers against. Was it Texas Tech in the
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: NCAA tournament however? No, Yeah, that was bad.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: That's a reference for like eight people twelve points in
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: thirty seconds.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: So I would say, so, I know it's a thorn
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: for this game. Are you worried that this trend continues
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: for your defense or you think they just had a
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: one off for on a consistent basis? No, I think
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: the defense is still pretty solid. But I mean we
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: saw it last year in the Bengals game for the Vikings.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: After like mid Bengals game and for the rest of
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: the season, really the Brian Flores defense kind of crumbled
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: and disappeared, and there goes the Vikings twenty twenty three
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: playoff hopes plus all the everything else, the quarterback and
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: everything else. But I don't see that necessarily happening as
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: a given right now, but it definitely could I just
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: think it's mostly a credit to the Bears offense was
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: on the field most of the game. I forget the statistics.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: We're on a good chunk of the time. The first
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: half that had over twenty minutes, like twenty and a
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: half minutes of ball time. It turned out to be pretty.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Even at the end of the kay but the Bears
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: still had a minute more okay with the ball. But yeah,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: I texted you at halftime that the Bears had the
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: ball I think twenty minutes out of the thirty minutes
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: of the first half, the Vikings had it less than ten.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and still led. Was it fourteen to seven or
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: something like that at the half. But yeah, currently I'm
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: not super concerned about that, especially since there was still
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: some some flashes, some highlight plays. The Jonathan Gernard he
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: had two sacks, one of them in overtime when the
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: two Bears were like cradling him to sleep for about
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: an hour and a half and then finally they let
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: go and he somehow got Caleb Williams on a second
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: down in overtime. But yeah, I think the Bears or
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: the Vikings defense will be okay. But still it's a
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: general thorn for really both of us for this game.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the turnovers too, that's another one. Right, Like, just
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: when we like were kind of hoping to have a
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: great game, the ghosts come out at Soldier Field.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: The Vikings just.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Can't seem to get out from these things at Soldier Field.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Fortunately they've won five in a row there now. But
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Aaron Jones gets down to the two yard line, looks
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: like the Vikings are primed and ready to score on
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: their first possession of the game, and he fumbles it.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah that was. Oh, that was so frustrating to watch.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Was that the only turnover for the Vikings? Yes, that was,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: but it's still at the moment, just was crippling. I'm
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: sure what were you feeling as a Bears fan to
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: watch the Vikings almost punch it in for a touchdown
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: on the first drive of the game. I mean for
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: the Vikings driving. Yeah, we had not done anything and
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: then you just drove it straight down and so you're
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: just like, goodness, kuldos, I mean to the goal line stance. Absolutely.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I just want to know why someone Biles, you know,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: isn't at more of these games. Clearly she has an
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: impact on her husband, so maybe she will be now
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: who knows she's a busy lady. Okay, yeah, yeah, Taylor
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Swift finds the way. So Taylor Swift is probably paid
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: handsomely by the league to appear. She doesn't go anywhere
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: without being paid to be there. I promise you that.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: But it was, it was, It was fun to see.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, the Bears, they always find a way to
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: get turnovers, and it's just always a Bears defense from
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: the Lovely Smith era and before that, just they get turnovers.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: It just can the capitalize on those turnovers more so?
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: And I guess the only other big thorn for me
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: and maybe correct me if I'm wrong. For us, this
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: might be a thorn for both teams. Oh oh yeah,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: I know what you're gonna say here this whole season,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: and it really showed its ugly head in this game.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: And I hate to say this because every time I
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: bring it up, I mentioned how I'm a fan. I
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: think the refs historically have always been more good than bad.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: And I hate the people that sit here and complain
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: about the refs and blame losses on the refs because
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: it's just it seems tacky. But man, this season and
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: in this game, I think on all fronts, the Vikings
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: and the Bears both got robbed by terrible officiator. There
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: are some horrible calls. I mean, I think it was
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: early in the game and it was actually, uh was
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: that kick return or punt return? And you guys got
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: held for or called for a block in the back
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: or something we nail you like yeah two seconds after.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I like it was like, I didn't even understand how
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: they could have called a flag on the Bears for
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: for you know, the violence that happened in that particular play.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: This has happened more times this season than I can
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: ever remember, where they'll bring in the rules analyst on
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: the broadcast and they'll be like, what'd you think? And
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I think it was gene sterotor because it was a
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Fox game, and he goes, that wasn't a block in
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: the back on the Vikings and it was a late
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: hit out of.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Bounds that they missed.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Yea, And like it shouldn't come down to that. There
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: should not be a former referee watching the game on TV,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: like we all are seeing these things and making these claims.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: It should be Yeah, it's unfortunate, Like you said, I
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: didn't disagree with the I know there's more abid the
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: two that you just blameantly called out on this podcast.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I mean the ones on on the bare side that
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: I can think of. There was a late hit I
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: felt from Van Ginkel on kill Williams. I thought this
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: didn't draw a flag. But the one that really irked
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: me was the past interference that didn't get called when
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: More throws it, you know, to Doomsday and clearly couldn't
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: couldn't get come back to the ball because your guy
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: is just like a wall to him. I just said,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I just blew my mind that that wasn't called defensive
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: pass interference. Maybe you guys disagree, but that I think
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: that one was just uh for me was turnaround in
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: the game because clearly you know that wasn't in the
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: end zone and and just but like I said, you
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: can't claim a loss or went on one play. So
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: that's the thing. Usually for our whole lives. You're watching
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: games and yeah, there might be one play where it's
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: like that was holding and they didn't call it, and
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: like maybe you think, like okay, holding in the third quarter,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Sure that's not gonna it doesn't come down to one play.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: But this year, yeah, specifically it feels like the rest,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: it's so bad, and and and then not to get off.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: But it kind of goes hand in hand with the rest.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Is this instant replay and stuff like that, where yeah,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: I actually agree that I thought Keenan Allen's foot was
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: out of bounds, you know, was there definitive proof though
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: tough to call. Tough to call. The call on field
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: was a complete catch. So that's a hard one to overturn.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: They did it. So that's fifty to fifty. The one
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: where Aciden runs out of bounds. Basically, we're not gonna
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: get me to agree, and and and the reason why
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: they couldn't basically overturn is because they couldn't use the
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: camera angle. And then I need you to pull up
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: the picture you sent me. I just but find the pictureless.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: They can't use it because not all all teams have this,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: and why even have it on is only it's like
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: this picture is not modified. That's the Addison step out
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: of bounds, which he didn't. I'll I'll take your word
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: on it, but I disagree with you one hundred percent
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: on it, okay. So that's basically what makes that angle okay,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: or what angles that they could make the ruling okay,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: but not a different one. I just don't like it.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: And once again not saying well, I thought he was
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: out a bouncement either way. The ruling that they couldn't
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: use a camerangle, I think is complete garbage. If you
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: have a camerangle, why wouldn't you use it to make
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: the call? Correct mother, I'm with you on the camera angles.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: And I think it's twenty twenty four and it's the NFL,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: the wealthiest league in the world, right, Like it's the
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: wealthiest sports franchise in the world. They should have money
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: to equip all thirty stadiums with cameras that can get
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: every single angle, Like we should be able to see
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: up these guys's noses, we should be able to see
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: like if their shoes are double knotted or not, Like
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: we should be able to see every to.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's just hardening for, like you said, huge
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: league like this to be so inferior and when it
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: comes to using technology in some and this is.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Something interesting about this Jordan Addison picture. And I'll put
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: I'll put the Jordan Addison picture up so people can
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: see what we're talking about.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: But he's wearing black cleats in this one.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I don't know if it was him
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: or there was another Vikings player that had a really
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: close call on the sideline or in the end zone
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: at some point this season. I can't remember now, but
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: they it was overturned, it wasn't a touchdown or it
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: wasn't a catch or whatever because they were wearing black
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: cleats and the Bears receiver was wearing white. He was
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: wearing white cleats with these white sidelines. And when I
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: watched it, I was like, Oh, he's it's a good
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: thing he's wearing white cleats.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I had that thought, tell it's it's it's a smart
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: move on players part. I mean, I'm yeah, you play,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: you played the to what's in strategy? And I think
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: you're talking about it was either like week one or
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: week two the Ravens where I think they were playing
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: the chief. Mark Jackson kind of remember that he threw
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: a last second game winning touchdown to I think Isaiah
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Likely in the back of the end zone and Likely's
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: foot was just millimeters out of the end. Yeah, it's
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: playing is day that Likely was not in but I
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: think it was. Even Mahomes was saying like after the game, like, hey,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: he should have been wearing white cleats. I don't know, Yeah, yeah,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: I was misremembering. It's definitely it's definitely a valid point.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: So but anyway, like you said, it's it's just overall,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: it's disheartening to see rests in my eyes. And I
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: watched not just the Bears, but football and general. We
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: just talked about another one where and maybe they got
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: the call right, you know, but still just I think
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: the calls on field that have gone downhill and then
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: not utilizing instant replay to its full ability, and I
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: think they the loosely term is you have to have,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: you know, actual evidence to overturn it air obvious. I
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: don't think that's always the case either. I mean, there
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: is a point one percent chance that it couldn't. Then
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: you technically, by rule, you can't change the call on
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: the field. So yeah, and and I think another not
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: to belabor this point, but I think another call that
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: was blatantly missed early in the game, which totally took
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: me out of it into new like how we're delusional
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: for the refs are going to call this game correctly,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: was right after the Addison fum Addison. Oh my goodness.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Right after the the Aaron Jones fumble at the goal line,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: it was either the first or second play for the Bears.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: After that, there was a just a clear hold against
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Harrison Phillips in the end zone by a Bears offensive lineman.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: And I mean, if the if there's a hold in
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: the end zone, that's a safety and it's I mean,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: we could pull up that play and it's it's not debatable.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: It's a hold. It's a hug hold, and it's I mean,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: they just didn't call it. And it's not like it
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: was in the middle of the scrum. I mean the
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Harrison Phillips, the Vikings defensive lineman, was alone, like just
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: waving his arms like I can't move and they're in
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: the end zone right they they're not gonna call it correctly.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's because koc the Vikings coach,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: has comple to the refs enough this year that the
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: refs are like, fine, we're just not gonna call anything.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: And that's such a cynical thing for this. I hate
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: the guys that say stuff like that.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: But there was so there were those two games where
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold nearly had his face restrived. Yeah, and Kevin
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: O'Connell went to the league and I think he had
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: a few conversations and he's kind of quoted saying like
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: my opinion doesn't matter. So then the next game we
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: both commented like early in the game, they the refs
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: immediately went to that eye in the sky. They're like,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: all right, we're going to you know whatever, what's that called.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know. The New York they always just say
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: like the New York team.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Were they were using specific verbiage the refs were on
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: the field, And now I can't remember it, but it
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: seemed like they did it for like two plays, and
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: it was in the first quarter of that game, and
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: it seemed like it was just like all right, there
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: you go, buddy, call. We helped you out there, all right,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: now back to your regularly scheduled Those.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Were like they called it, you know, second in inches,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: but really on the field they looked at it. It was like, okay,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: it's first down. You gotta love the sympathy calls, like
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: here's a makeup call for for you. It's just anyway. Yeah, Well,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: before we moved on to Roses officially, Forrest, do you
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: have any other thorns thorn for the Bears, obviously the
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: line for their kicking game. Obviously two blocks, and I
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: think it was I think the announcer said, I think
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: this is the same area, the same dude that couldn't
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: give his block when we lost the Packers, And it's
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: just it's devastating.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: You know, the Vikings knew it too, because they they
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: piled up in that one specific.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: It's it's devastating, especially after that huge loss. You'd think
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: that would be a point emphasis during the week of
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: practice and yeah, you think, and then the first field
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: goal attempt and it happens. It's like deja vu. So
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: so yeah.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I want to make one quick honorable mention thorn quick
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: and it's it's kind of a bitter swiever.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, that was that was pretty bad. We could
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: cut that. Well, we don't cut anything that's true. That's true.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Anyways, It's kind of it's bittersweet because it's it's not
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: good because you don't like to see this guy struggle,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: but it's also good because other people benefited from his
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: not getting the ball a whole lot. And that's justin Jefferson.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, two catches, what was it twenty seven.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Yards something like that, and one of them was in overtime.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so two catches on five targets for twenty seven yards.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: That has to be one of Justin Jefferson's worst stat
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: lines of his career.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: It's got to be, especially for a game that he
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: wasn't injured for. He did credit to him, and I
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: don't know if it's all lip service or just smile
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: in front of the camera or whatever, but after the game,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: in his press conference or his interviews, you know, locker
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: room interviews, he had a quote something to the tune of, hey,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: it's either let Justin go off or let everybody else
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: go off, And I'm gonna let everybody else go off.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: And he had a smile on his face. So who
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: knows if he's upset about not having a big role,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: but he didn't publicly look like it. He's a true captain.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: So yeah, well, speaking of everybody else going off a rose,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, a nice transition. Jordan Addison eight catches, one
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: hundred and sixty two yards in a touchdown.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: We've already talked about him. TJ.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Hoginson kind of the official welcome back from injury game
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: for him. Seven catches in one hundred and fourteen yards.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Finally felt like he was like the rust is all off,
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: finally felt like it's good to go now.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: And who knows, maybe maybe it took Josh Oliver being
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: out for that to really kind of maybe manifest itself,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: because Josh Oliver has been playing pretty well and we
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: know he's really good at blocking. So anyways, Yeah, tj Hoginson,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: great game, one hundred and fourteen yards, good to see
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: him back. And Aaron Jones twenty two carries, one hundred
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: and six yards and a touchdown. All of that was
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: pretty much after his fumble at the two yard line.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Well right before was that forty one yard Yeah whatever,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: it was cash.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: That huge order to start the game. But yeah, so
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: that's definitely a big rose for me. To have three
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: skilled players over one hundred yards and two touchdowns between them,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Aaron Jones and Jordan Addison with the touchdowns, That's that's
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: big time right there.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, forrest any roses for the Bears. I mean, I
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: think we've already talked about Caleb Williams. I think his
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: best game. Yeah. No, I mean, I mean it's kind
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: of an ugly rose. I mean, Bears showed life in
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: the last two games, even though it both came out
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: with a loss. I mean, they definitely competed and so
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: you got to be proud for the overall level that
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: they played at. I mean, so, yeah, I don't know.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: I trying to grab I'm still trying to understand what
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: where the Bears go after this, you know, to heartbreak
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: loss the division foes, and yeah, I don't know where
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: the Bears go from here. I feel like besides Detroit
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: and we've said it the last couple of weeks though,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: that think that Thursday time slot messes with teams more
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: than any other time slot. I think that's a positive
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: for the Bears. It doesn't hurt the Bears chances. But
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know. The Lions are tough. I will say this,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: and I hope this doesn't come off as condescending or anything,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: because really, who am I I just cheer for a team.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: But I think Bears, the team and their fans should
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: have some positive feelings towards the idea that they have
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: been within a play of beating not just like staying
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: in the game, but beating division rivals in back to
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: back weeks after make probably a season or I don't know,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: reputation saving move by switching offensive coordinators. I think the
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Bears overall are looking up. And again, I know who
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: cares what a Vikings fan's opinions are. Like I said,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: I hope this doesn't come off as condescending, but that
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: was not That was not a particularly fun game to
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: watch as a Vikings fan. I cannot only me. I
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: think you texted me after the game. You gave me
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: grace and texted me I think a few hours after,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: after at least the heat of the moment, but I
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: think you said something that literally gave you a heart attack.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: And you know, I think I said it out loud
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: right when we forced over times said the Bears will
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: still find a way to lose. And I didn't mean
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't believe in jinksten it at all.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Just being a Bears fan, you just come to understand
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: that that was gonna most likely be the story. So sure,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: I think I think, back to all our conversations over
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: the last little bit, is maybe it's better for the
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Bears to not get the win. I don't know if
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: that would give inclination to keep Eberflus, you know, for
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: another season or not. I don't know. Looking at the
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Bears schedule the rest of the season, they face a gauntlet.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're backloaded in the division. We did play
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: before the Packers last week. It's kind of the opposite
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: of the bike. And then we add on Seattle, isn't
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: it so? Seattle and San Francisco.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta think San Francisco is hungry right now
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: because they're.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Under five hundred. I think I think are they five
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: and six now? I think so that that West is
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: in the West season wide open. I think any of
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: the four teams have a legitimate shot to the Rams, Niners, uh,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Seattle and card game or two. I agree with that.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it'll be a wild It will be a
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: wild time to watch watch that division, see see what
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: comes out of it.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: I think I think the Bears have a win or
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: two in here still, hopefully it's not against the Vikings
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: on Monday Night, December sixteenth, But I think they've got
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: a few wins in here still. I think they've they've
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: got a chance to kind of go out and prove
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: what they can do with this new OC and it.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Would be amazing. Was that if the Bears beat the
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Lions this week? I'm not predicting it, man. I've been
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: right next to the biggest Bears fans this this coming week.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: We are we are big Bears fans. Like I said,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I think there's a halfway okay chance the Vikings and
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: the Lions entered the Week eighteen game with the same record.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: It's it's quite possible. So if the Bears could really
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: do their due diligence, I just had a bunch of
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: nice things about the Bears. If they could reciprocate and
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: beat the Lions, who looked beatable against the Colts of
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: all people this past week, I'm not predicting it. If
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: I still had to say, who do I think would
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: win the Lions or the Bears, I I think I'd
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: still give it to the line. They've earned that right.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: I think the lines, like you said, earned the right
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: to be the favorite in any game. They might even
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: be like ten point favorites. But still that's a conversation
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: for another And I interrupted you. I was just gonna say,
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: we're big.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: We're big Bears fans as long as they're playing anybody
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: but the Vikings. Really the rest of the season except
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: for the Viks right now, the Lions are ten and
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: a half eleven point favorites over the Bears.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's a chunk. That's a that's a big
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: chunk to be compared to the Vikings right now, I
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: think are three or three and a half point favorites
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: over the Cardinals.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a slim margin for that game. But the
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Cardinals have been kind of hot and cold this year too.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: They haven't been great, but they haven't been bad. So
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: we're not quite there yet. Well, we'll talk that game
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: here in a minute, but some others from so we're
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: still in Roses. Evan, your your first rose was the
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Big three? Jordan Addison, T. J. Hockinson, Aaron Jones. I
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: think my rose is the fourth one, and maybe he
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: should be the first one.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Is Sam Donald? Ever since he looked awful in that
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Jaguars game, what three weeks ago? Yeah, he looked. He
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: looked like the worst version of Josh Dobbs looked at
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: his at his downfall last year for the Vikings. He
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: looked horrible. And I think I'm not saying any any secret.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I think Sam Donald would say, yeah, that was that
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: might have been his worst game, like definitely as a Viking,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: and maybe of his career, and that's saying something. Although
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: I think he's had had some pretty lousy games teams,
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: but since then, at least the last two weeks, he
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: has looked amazing. I think his best game of his
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: career statistically came against who was it the Titans last week? No,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: that's not right. Maybe it is soaking the Jags before that,
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: and then he was stone cold against the Bears. He
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: started off real cold. I think it was like two
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: for seven to start the game off. But the longer
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: he played, the warmer he got, the better he looked.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold looked beginning of the season form, and I'm
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: saying he looked MVP like the beginning of the season
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: for the Vikings this year, especially in overtime when the
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Vikings and I knocked the defense earlier, I said they
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: were a thorn. But the Vikings defense in overtime, I
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: think it wasn't a three and out on the Bears
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: first because that second down was when that that whole
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: year saying, and he took like what a fifteen yard loss?
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: It was on that Grenard sac. Yeah, it was tough.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: I mean so yeah, I said, the defense kind of
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: crumbled and they were a thorn for me. They allowed
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: twenty seven points, but in overtime the defense tightened up.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: They figured it out, if not for anything, but three
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: plays and that's all they needed to And then after that,
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: man Donald, he I think he was six for six
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: for ninety yards, a couple of stone cold passes to TJ. Hockinson.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: He deserves the game ball, not just a game ball,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: the game ball. He was the quarterback who won the
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: game for the Vikings against the Bears, especially in a
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: game when maybe Caleb Williams might have looked better than
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: him statistically or just on the field. I mean, if
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: you just look at stats, I mean, obviously KILEB. Williams
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: definitely outplayed Sam Donald, but I think so. But like
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: you said, Darnald came out on ot and I mean
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: he might chalk it up as rookie versus you know,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: that's been yeah, been there a little bit. And they're
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: also not on this field at the same time, they're
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: not playing the same play, but.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: They were actually like surprisingly similar Statistically. Sam Darnald threw
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: about thirteen times less Caleb Williams. Sam Darnald averaged more
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: per throw nine point seven to Caleb Williams seven point two.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: They both threw two touchdowns, they both took three sacks
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: for about the same amount. Donald was just a little
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: bit higher in QBR in his overall rating eighty two
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: point six QBR and a one to sixteen rating to
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Caleb Williams seventy seven to four QBR and a.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: One oh three.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: So like they're they're very even keeled in terms of stats.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's not a whole lot that separates them.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: I think the Bears just relied on the pass a
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: little bit more because their run game was terrible that well,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: they ran for seventy eight yards as a team and
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Aaron Jones had one hundred and six yards by himself.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Well, and they're running specifically quarterback wise, that was the
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: separating factor Kill Williams. Yeah, he had six carries for
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: thirty three yards, but some of those were a lot
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: of those carries were first downs and like extending the
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: plays and how did he get out of that type play.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: That's where I think Caleb Williams gets the scale to
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: tip his way is his extra version of athletic ability
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: and opportunity to But yeah, Sam Darnold, he's my biggest
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: rows of the game.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: But then you got to give a shout out to
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: the defense, and I know they were kind of a thorn,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: but only at a particular section of the game. But
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: the run defense, I don't even think this is on
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: our notes, but the run defense holding the Bears to
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: seventy eight yards total on the ground, and most of
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: those came from Caleb Williams. You know, in those scrambling
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: situations when you don't know what's going to happen, and
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: you don't know if he's going to try to throw
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: it last minute or not, so you kind of have to,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: you know, sit back and wait and see if he's
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: going to toss it or not. You know, typical run game.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: You know, if you're going to just dump it off
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: to DeAndre Swift and have him run off the gut,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: you know what's going to happen, and you just you
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: find the ball and you tackle the guy and the
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: play's over. Yeah, But when Caleb Williams is running all
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: over the field, it's fran Tarkenton out there.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: It's you know, it's you never know. Yeah, Williams is good,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: and he's proving me wrong because I was thinking and
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: hoping he'd be terrible. Another thing is to go off
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: your point on the Vikings defense. It's not being talked
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: about much at all, and I don't have specific numbers
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: in front of me, but the Vikings run defense this
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: year is historically good and nobody is running on the Vikings.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: The past defense could use some help, at least statistically,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: but running wise, the Vikings can do no wrong on defense,
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: so far.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Can I Before, we're gonna get to game balls here
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: in a minute, and this guy's not on my list
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: for game balls. He's not on yours either, I don't think,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: and I doubt he's on yours because he plays for
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: the Vikings.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, if he had a good enough game, well.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: This one, I'll sting a little bit, maybe as a
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Bears fan. But Jerry Tillery, man, oh yeah, this guy.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: He blocked that kick, he blocked that field goal, which again, sorry,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: but he made to play. This guy, he's so kind
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: of under the radar on this Vikings team. I don't
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: think he really gets enough credit. We're not going to
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: give him a game ball today, although he probably deserves one.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Just yeah.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: But what what I love about Jerry Tillery is I
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: love watching him in some of these locker room situations
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: because he's so awkward. He's like he I don't know,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: like he's got to be like in like Dungeons and
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Dragons and.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Stuff, like, hey, I'm not in the Dungeons and Dragons.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: You're getting a little too close to home here.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well he's he's like, he's like your stereotypical, like
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: nerdy guy in a in a really good way. I'm
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: not trying to offend the guy, but like you just
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: like you look at him, you hear him talking, like really,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: that guy plays defensive tackle in the NFL, and then
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: he goes out and balls out and he's been he's
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: been a huge reason why Harrison Phillips and himself have
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: been plugging up the middle of that line and not
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: really allowing teams to run on him this year. And
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: now he's got this huge blocked field goal on his resume,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: which is awesome. So yeah, that's a that's a rose
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: in and of itself for me and an honorary game
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: ball even though he's not on the list for us.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Any other roses for the Bears this week, No, I
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: don't think there's roses. Like I said, I think we
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: listened to them. Where you at least had hope as
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: a Bears fan even though losses continue. So well, I
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: think the game ended right. That's a rose. Yeah fair.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: I think the last rose I have written down will
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: come up here in the next few minutes. Anyway, So
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: how about we move on to game balls. Let's do
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: it all right? So Forrest, you may not know, and
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: we didn't really prep you for this, but this season
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: we've been giving game balls for offense, defense, and special teams.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: So if you can think up of any of those
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: for the Bears, will go first to kind of give
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: you a mental port to think about it, but just
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: to give you that heads up, I'll go first my
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: offensive game ball. I rapped him him a few minutes ago,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: so I don't really need to blabor this. Sam Donald,
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: he is keeping the Viking. The Vikings will go with
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald this year, good or bad, and we've seen
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: that good or bad, and it's been mostly good. I'm
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: a Sam Donald fan. I will be even after this
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: year when he's the Raiders quarterback or the Titans quarterback
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: or whoever he's going to I was gonna say, so
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: you think based on it unless he wins multiple playoff games,
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: do you think the Vikings let him go. I think
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: the only reason the Vikings would keep him is if
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: he wins the Super Bowl. And believe me, Michigan fan here, yes,
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: and I believe in JJ McCarthy. He's been a winner
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: at all cylinders. But I mean, you feel yes, that
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: confident JJ McCarthy, and I would back you on that
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: because I'm a huge JJ fan. But that is rolling dice.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, Evan, tell me if you disagree. But I
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: think at this rate, if we only looked at from
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: the start of the season till now, if he just
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: broke his leg and didn't play another game this year,
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold has earned himself. I'm gonna guess a four
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: year contract for twenty five to thirty million dollars a year.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: I think that a starter for some team out there.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: I mean there's there will be and I'll let Evans,
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: but there are teams that probably will pay that. But
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna happen, especially when you look at
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: the upcoming quarterbacks. Are you going on? And then I'll sorry, Evan,
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: I just want to make sure are you saying that
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: he deserves that? If he gets say one playoff win,
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: I say right now he came, now he kill it
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: now without even obviously not try and put voodoo, but
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: clearly you're looking like a playoff team, so he'll have
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: his shot to get a playoff victory. You're saying, as
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: of right now, he deserves that type of money unless
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: he his next thirty passes are interceptions for touchdowns. I
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: think his floor right now he has basically solidified. He's
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: shown that he can be a starting quarterback in the NFL,
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: which not many people in the world can show. You
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: see guys like there. There are probably still teams that
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: was signed Tom Brady right now and he probably do okay,
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: but like teams are desperate for bodies that can throw
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: a football. Sam Donald's proven he's not the best, he's
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: not MVP, he's not Mahomes, but he's proven that he
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: can win games and be an NFL starting quarterback. I
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: think his floor is twenty five million a year for
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: probably three or four years. That's that's my guess. I'll
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: let Evan speaking, then I might weigh in the smidge morning. Well,
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: we're going to go on a little bit of a
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: rabbit trail.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: O man, if I ask this question that I'm about
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: to ask because the news has been swirling, I mean.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: The Daniel Jones of it all. Yeah, so.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: I know where I stand on this issue, But where
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: do you stand on Daniel Jones?
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: And should the number one?
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Should the Vikings pick up Daniel Jones now that he's
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: officially been released in cleared waivers and the Vikings have
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: seemingly been moving things around on the roster to open
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: up spots. We're not entirely sure why, but we kind
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: of have an idea why. And I'm not saying it's
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, But should the Vikings pick him up?
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: And then if they.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Do, let's just say hypothetically they do. Does that change
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: the psyche of Sam Darnold as he approaches his prep
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: for games? Should that cause him any sort of like crap?
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: They just brought in this one hundred and sixty million
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: dollar guy to replace me. That's going to affect how
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: I play? Was it one hundred and sixty million dollars.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Something like that? It's something ridiculous. I My needle is
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: now moved at all by Daniel Jones. He could well
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: one wherever he goes. He's going to sign for like
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: two million dollars. The rest of the year, Like it's
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: not going to be like a twenty million dollar contract
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: for the rest of the Giants are going to pay
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: out most of his contract. Well, I think that when
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: he cleared waivers, they're already on the hook for the
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: rest of his contract this year and then subsequent years
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: or whatever. I don't know all the details on that,
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: but when he signs, because he'll sign with a team,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Like I just said, teams are desperate for bodies at
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: the quarterback position that have shown that they can throw
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: a football. Daniel Jones is good enough to be on
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: an NFL roster. Do I think it makes sense the
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Vikings are KOs has just squeezed the life in a
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: good way out of these Josh Dobbs for all people,
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: out of these quarterbacks that I mean, if if they
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: can do anything, KOs is going to get something out
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: of that was gonna be one of my points is
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: you gotta think you're coming into a Viking's offense that
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: koc offensive minded guy. You got great targets justin Jefferson,
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Jordan Asen, TJ. Hockinson. I mean, you've got weapons on
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: that field to throw to and uh yeah, I mean
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: I hate to say it, But you look at a
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: guy like Daniel Jones. No, has he looked good in
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: the NFL. Not really, but obviously he's shown enough to
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: keep his starting position until recently. I mean, and change
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: change the scenery potentially. I don't think Jones' career is
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: cooked definitively right now. It might be a baker, although
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: I will say so, if the Vikings signed Daniel Jones,
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: it wouldn't even get me out of bed.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Not if should should the Vikings sign him tomorrow? Maybe?
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: I mean so. I think if the Vikings signed him,
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: what they should do is sign him as the backup plan.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: If they signed him right now, it would be as
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: the backup plan to JJ McCarthy. If they signed him tomorrow,
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: He's not taking over Sam Donald's job. Sam Donald could
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: throw his next thirty passes in it as interceptions. Daniel Jones,
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: barring multiple injuries, is not going to play quarterback for
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: the Vikings on the field this year. Multiple injuries or
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: like a fifty point lead, It's still gonna be Sam Donald,
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: Nick Mullins and then Brett Rippian is the only one
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: that should be concerned if the Vikings signed Daniel Jones.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: The only reason they should sign him if they do.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: If they should, I'm not advocating for this is like,
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: get him for this year and give him a two
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: year contract because like I said, Sam Donald, he's out.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: He's going to bigger and better contract deals and he's
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: earned it. Maybe Daniel Jones is like, Okay, I can
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: follow in the footsteps of Sam Donald. I can resurrect
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: my career, do the Baker Mayfield thing and sit because
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: even if he's the backup quarterback in Kevin o' O'Connell's offense,
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: he's still going to benefit from that. And for that reason,
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: the forty nine ers would be good for Daniel Jones too.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: If he signs with the Vikings, cool. I honestly, like,
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: it's not gonna make me think anything about Sam Darnold
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: this year. It would only be for backup next year, hopefully.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, if anything.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: See, I tend to disagree just a little bit. Number one,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: I don't think they should, and whether they do or not,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: this whole Daniel Jones storyline's just gonna dominate this whole
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: next week I think.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Until he signs a contract.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, So the Vikings are not like off
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: the hook until he signs somewhere and they're gonna be
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: on the hook until he does. You know, I just
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: said the same thing twice that was redundant. But anyways,
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: on the other side of that, I think if the
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: Vikings end up signing Daniel Jones for maybe more of
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: a long term plan like you've said, which sounds ideal,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: it sounds great, it sounds really good good, and I
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: like it on paper. I'm not opposed to that at all.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: But my worry is if the Vikings pull the trigger
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: on something like that, then all of a sudden, you've
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: got Sam Donald who's now in his head he's starting
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: to like wonder, like, Okay, what is my future with
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: this franchise? And I know these guys are thinking more
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: than just you know, the next game and whatever. Like
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: you gotta know, Sam Donald's thinking, all right, what happens
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: after this season?
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Where do I go?
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: Vegas needs a quarterback. I could probably go there, Giants quarterback.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: The Jets need a quarterback.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: You know, he's not going to the Jets and they won't.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: They won't bring him back just for pride.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, But I mean Aaron Jones or
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, not Aaron Jones. Aaron Rodgers is probably on
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: his way out regardless. I think if it were me,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: if I were in Sam Donald's shoes and I'd done
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: what Sam Donald has done. Granted I'm not, and I'm
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: sitting here drinking beer, talking on a podcast and no
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: football shape whatsoever. Haven't been since the eighth grade when
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: I quit playing football. But that would get in my
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: head a little bit. If this guy was brought in
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: and he's worth more than I am. He's got more
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: starting experience maybe than I do. I don't know, that's
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: that's debatable, debatable. Yeah, anyways, it would get in my head.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: I would be annoyed, even if he was the third
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: string practice squad guy and whatever like.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: I can see that. But I think at this moment,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: so you're you're a cross country coach for high school, right, yep.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: I think at the moment, the Vikings signing Daniel Jones
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: would be akin to your school putting last year's senior
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: All Star as like an assistant on your cross country team.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: I don't think it. I don't think it should be
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: concerning for Sam Darnold at all. Right now, now, if
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: he did come out and we're throwing thirty interceptions and
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: then Nick Mullin's came out because they would have to
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: make a switch at some point. If he threw thirty
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: straight interceptions and then Nick Mullens came out and through
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: thirty straight interceptions, then maybe Daniel Jones would play for
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: the Vikings. But I think any signing of Daniel Jones
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: right now would be more future focused for after Sam
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Darnold was gone.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: So you think, without a shadow of a doubt, no
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: matter what happens, even if the Vikings sign Daniel Jones,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: there's no way, realistically speaking, because none of these quarterbacks
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: share you have to throw thirty straight interceptions.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: All I'm saying is not that I'm wishing this, but
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: the turns and start, say five interceptions next week. My mentality,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: I'm rewinding this real right now. My mentality is you
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: never let a guy throw four. So if he throws three,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: pull them out. And the Vikings already proved they're not
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: going to do that this year. So anyways, so I yeah,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: I mean we'll have to come back to this. Yeah, absolutely,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: I'm okay with defending this thought process. It's we definitely
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: are on different sides.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: That's okay.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: The conversation makes I don't think it's a wise move
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: for the Vikings.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not advocating for it. I know you're not.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, it seems like the pressure is there,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: the societal pressure, the social media pressure, the like this
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: would be a big splashy move. Pressure is there, right like,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: And we've felt that as Vikings fans. We felt it
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: with Kirk Cousins before he came to Minnesota, and then
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: they signed him, and then we paid him all this
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: money and then.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: We didn't pay them any Well, yeah, they paid him
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: all this money. You've attended some Vikings, that is true. Okay, Okay,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: so he's probably gotten like thirty of my dollars. He
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: got a loaf of bread on us.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: You're welcome, Kirk Cousins, right, But like the Vikings are
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: not immune to these sorts of things, right Like, there
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: are certain organizations I think in the NFL that are
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: They're just like, Nope, we're not going to pay attention
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: to what people are saying. We're not even going to
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: give credence to any of these wild, crazy ideas. Where
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: going to keep doing what we do because this is
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: what we do. I think the Packers are one of
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: those organizations that are just like draft and developed, draft
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: and developed, draft and developed.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: They don't even really play ball in free agency.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: They have a little bit more recently, but like the
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: Vikings are not immune, and I wouldn't be surprised if
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: the Vikings do something like this into me.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: It would be stupid.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: I'd be frustrated and be like, why why upset the
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: apple cart of this really good nine and two season
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: that nobody expected, just to bring in the big, flashy
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: guy from New York to see what could happen either
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: this year or next year.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: And I'm not frustrated because I think, one, I don't
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: care if they bring him in, because if they do,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: I think he's not even on the forty six man
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: roster each game at all this year. And if the
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: Vikings signed Daniel Jones, it's a future focused move that
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: looks at Daniel Jones to be at best QB two
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: next season. It doesn't do anything for this year other
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: than get him in the room and have him see
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: what chaos is like. And hopefully I would be annoyed
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: if they signed him if it was only for this
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: year and there was no talk about getting him on
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: a that minimum deal next year or something like that. Interesting.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: Other than that, I honestly could care less. Well, we
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: don't care less. What's what's the you're the English? I could,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: I couldn't, couldn't care less, could not care less. Yes,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: I think that's what you want to say. Yeah, it
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: means I care the minimal amount because you could care less.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: I've seen it, that's true. We've beat this to death. Heymber,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: twenty minutes ago when I said, hey, we don't need
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: to belabor my offensive game but I forgot it's me.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: I'm the problem. All right, all right, I'll quickly get
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: to my game ball. Although I'm going to give three offensives.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: I thought your rule was one offense, one defense. You're
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: very annoying, and you're so annoying that I'm going to
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: take a time out and go to the bathroom right now,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: becau as if I don't, it's going to be a
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: bad news bearer. So as you talk about your three
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: offensive game balls, you talk about your offensive game ball,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: and then by that do that on a pack podcast.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: It's half my podcast. I can do whatever well, and
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: it's the other half of mine. So I get to
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: make the rules and hey, you do you offensive game
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: balls plural are going to go to Jordan Addison, Aaron Jones,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: T J Atkinson.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: I mean each of them had one hundred yards. I
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: mean I totally Addison for sure. I mean deserves the
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: game ball of all game balls. I mean whenever if
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: we were third, well we have you in third and
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: over ten or more yards multiple times, and it always
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: seemed we choose to play soft coverage. And of course
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: Jordan Asen is a great receiver and he just make
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: a move and Darnold to find him and he'd get
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: the first down and unbelievable.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: He's definitely Addison is definitely the primary beneficiary of Justin
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Jefferson getting double and triple teamed all the time. When
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: he's drawing all of that coverage his way, Jordan Addison
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: usually has single coverage somewhere else, and Jordan Addison is
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: good enough to beat that single coverage. Could agree more
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: eight or nine times. I mean, it's awesome not.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: Here to relive. And I think we said on podcasts
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: when you guys dressed jordanas and I said, that's a
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: great pick because I remember his time at Pitt and
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: then he transferred to usc. He's just all around great receiver,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: very very great, a great route runner, and it catches everything.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: It just seems like so.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, ye Aaron Jones. I mean, after he recovered from
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: fumbling the ball in that first drive, he had a
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: really good game. He himself found the end zone, which
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: was great.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: And t J.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Hogginson we already talked about him too. Was just fun
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: to watch him kind of be back man.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: He again kind of came alive second half and obviously
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: ot where you just destroyed the Bears defense. It's like
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: all sudden, him and Arnold just had a connection. So
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: who's your offensive game the Bears? Well, I mean it's
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: it's gotta be Kile Williams. But I tell you, I
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: don't know what Keenan Allen and him were doing this game,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: but for some odd reason, Keenan Allen was his favorite
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: target and it worked for the majority of the games. Absolutely.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, he definitely showed up to play defensively, I
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: don't know, I mean we played decent, uh Gordon Kyler.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: Gordon I thought played really good defending overall. And uh,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know, special teams, that's a hard one. Yeah. Uh,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: I'd have to say Santos for for some of the clutch,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: you know, field goals. Maybe I mean that there's there's
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: nothing on Santos for that. That's true, that's true. I
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: mean he did, he does his job, and he's been
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: a great kicker. I mean he was our top scorer
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: what two weeks ago when the Bears couldn't score a
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: touchdown at all. So yeah, he's pretty dependable. So I
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: mean i'd say say him maybe maybe Carter. Even though
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: he fumbled that one that led to your one of
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: your scores, he did have that massive run back at
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: the end of over near the end of fourth quarter
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: set us up. So I don't know, that's a hard one.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: All right, defensive game ball, all right, my defensive game ball.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: I did hear you talk about draft night when the
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Vikings drafted Jeordan Madison. That was a good night, my
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: defensive game ball. Harrison Smith. This is at least his
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: third game in a row where Harrison Smith has played
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: every snap. And I said it, I think last week
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: this is a year where Smith they were saying like, yeah,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: well we'll let him come off the field sometimes because
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: he's he's probably the oldest Viking on the roster. But
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: he's still bawling. I think he led the team with
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: eleven tackles. He's a Hall of Famer on the field
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: right now. Yeah. Is he as good as he's ever been?
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but he's not much worse right now.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: So kind of like I was giving Will Record the
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: Special Teams game ball every week until he missed it,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna keep giving Harrison Smith my defensive game
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: ball every week until he doesn't deserve it. He is
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: the oldest Viking, yeah, thirty five years old. I think
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: he absolutely deserves it. He played fantastic. I don't remember
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: who it was on Twitter today, but they were saying
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: they were watching the game back today with no commercials
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: and kind of a truncated version, and they're saying, holy cow,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: Harrison Smith. It's one thing to see a game in
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: three hours, but when you see it all back to
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: back and you see him play great, great, great, every
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: play back to back to back, it just shows even
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: more how fantastic that guy is. The defense this team
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: in general will feel when his presence is no longer there.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Not that he's the loudest guy, not that he's the
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: like leader by authority, he's more of a leader by example. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: I think hopefully this isn't his last year. I think
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: he's already said it's going to be. I don't know,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: but he's still balling out at thirty five years old.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. I just turned thirty four, so wow, he's
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: a year older than us. You are so old, Evan.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: We don't need to discuss for a stage over there.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: It's it's not much older than thirty four. Are you
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: feeling the dust there? I'm feeling it. I felt it
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: a little bit all night. It's okay. I love you man.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Gernard gets my defensive game ball. He had two
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: big sacks, the biggest coming in overtime. Was awesome to
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: see him just like obvious holding situation. We've already talked
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: about how egregious that was of a non call being
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: held by two guys, not just one.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: It's comical. If you get the chance, go back and
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: watch the Vikings Bears overtime. It's like the second or
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: third play in overtime. There's two guys just they're not
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: even like moving, they're just all bear hugging.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: But what's funny about it is they like they held him.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: They held him, They held him, and then all of
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: a sudden, they're like, we just can't do this anymore,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: and he just.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: It's almost like one of the three of them said, like,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: you guys know, like either Gernard eventually was like you can't,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: You're gonna get flagged. You're like you have to let go,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: or one of the other guys was like, we have
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: to let go of him at some point, like they
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: just would have been better we get flagged. I mean honestly, yeah,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: because it wouldn't have been a loss of down or anything.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: The sack was ribly been ten yards instead of like
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: twelve to fifteen yards and a loss of down. So
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: I'm okay with it how it ended up.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree, he's been awesome on defense. What
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: about you special teams? Uh?
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: For me, it's Parker Romo. I mean, uh, he was clutched.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: I don't think he missed a kick this week. I
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: think he's only missed one, as he missed an extra
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: point last week. Yeah. Yeah, so still more perfect in
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: terms of missed kicks than than will record. My goodness,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: thank you for saving me right there. Yeah, Parker Romo.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: The Vikings somehow have found two solid kickers, and some
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: team is gonna snatch Parker Romo up real quick, and
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: good for them and good for him once will record
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: comes back. Did you see his little postgame like Instagram
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: or whatever it was. I saw it, but I didn't
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: see what sounds, so I don't know what he said.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: He quoted Kirk Cousins. Oh, no, step in your.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: Trap, keep your trap or whatever Kirk Cousins was saying
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, hyping up his players. Parker John
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: Parker Romo is like, let me back up, Kirk Cousins
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: is the like the like the homeschool kid that like
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: comes from money. Okay, John Parker Romo's the school kid
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: that doesn't.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: We've known versions of both of those.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So no offense to the homeschool kids out there.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: We love you, You're great. But yeah, it was just
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: it was funny. It was hilarious to watch John Barker
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: Romo steal Kirk cousins little little line there. And Kirk
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: Cousins line wasn't that good to begin with.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: I don't even know what line you're talking about, but
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: I'll take word for it.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll drop that in the description as well, because yeah,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins kind of made the Rounds a few weeks ago.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: He was trying to hype up his offensive line. I
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: think something about like, you know, you set up a
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: trap for us, We're gonna step in your trap and
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: take over your trap, or something like that, and he
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: made it into this like rhythmic almost rap type thing,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: and it was just like, that's the whitest thing I've
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: ever seen, Kirk Cousins.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: That's weird. That reminds me. And this is a joke
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: for three people, one of which will never watch this
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: at all, But that reminds me of a joke your
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: dad said when we were kids, something of a rut
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: and a grave, and nobody understood it, but he still
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: said it in front of a bunch of people. I
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: don't know if you remember that, which is funny because
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: my dad was a funeral director. From it. There was
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: something about that and like three people laughed and nobody
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: got it. And I don't know if you do you
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: remember that at all? No, I have no recollection. I
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: maybe it's a hilarious joke for funeral directors. I don't know,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: but and I don't know. I might have been ten
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: at the time. I don't know why I remember this
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: somewhere to remember, but I know your dad doesn't listen
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: to this, or at least the last time I talked
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: to him, he had never listened to this. We're working
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: on that, and now that he's been personally mentioned, maybe
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: you can get him to listen to this, and then
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: we can figure out what that joke. Maybe he can.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: Maybe I've got it wrong, Maybe I'm just saying it wrong.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: Come on, Dave, what's the rut and the grave? And
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know you know the joke? I don't. I
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: even heard it once and I don't remember.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: It, but well, my special team's game ball put the
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: Bears in the grave kind of don't do this, sorry,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: just let it die, all right? Well that was a
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: bad joke too, Sorry my special teams. The game ball
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: is going to go to bou Richter. Oh yeah, because
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: I thought about him, because he recovered that muffed punt
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: that the Bears probably shouldn't have even tried to touch.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: And I think what was his name, DeAndre Carter?
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he should have been even close
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: to that ball. As soon as he waved it off
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: like we're not taking this.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: I think I think the announcer said it best. No
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: one could get understand what he was even doing in
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: the vicinity. Yeah, so you wave it off when your
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: teammates are close to touching it, but nobody will. And
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: they even commented on his teammate run down field that
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: he ran out bounds because he knew I don't know
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: that this was only going to be disaster if it
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: touched him, so he wisely ran out of bounds. And
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: So I give a special teams game ball. Obviously, Parker
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: Romo deserves one for how clutch he's been. I've given
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: one to McQuaid, the kind of filling long snapper to
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks. I think he deserves one too.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: But Bo Richter stepping in, He's a guy I think
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: in preseason that flashed.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: I'm a big fan.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: He's he's making uh, he's hitting the Richter scale on
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: special teams and I don't know. Maybe we'll see this
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: guy playing defense for the Vikings before too long.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: Maybe that'd be nice.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: All Right, Well, we've spent a lot of time talking
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: about Vikings Bears, which has been fun.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: But we got to look ahead, and we already talk
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: about it. We are.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: We we did already kind of look ahead to the
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: Bears going to Are they going to Detroit next week?
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're They're Detroit always plays Thanksgiving, Well, they
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: always playing. To me, I think it's usually always in Detroit.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: I can't remember the last time it's not been in Detroit.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: So the Bears have Detroit in Detroit on Thursday for Thanksgiving.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: That's gonna be a tough one. We've already kind of
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: talked about that. What do you hold on? What do
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: you finalize your thoughts on that finish? Honestly, I scored.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: I think it's not gonna be as close as the
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: Packers or Vikings games for the Bears, but I think
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: they come out looking pretty good in the first half,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: and then the second half I think Lions regroup and
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: take it over. So maybe they're tie that half. I'm optimistic,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: But then I think the Lions regroup and definitely win
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: by probably ten points. I'd say, do you have a
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: score prediction at all? I think it's gonna be mind you,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: the Bears twenty seven on the Vikings seventeen to thirty one. Okay,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: that was like I wanted to thirty one seventeen like
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: three times this year. I think. I think, like I said,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: it will be close first half and then I just
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: don't see like sev All. Yeah, I mean the Lions
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: they make those halftime adjustments and they turn on. So
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: it'd be nice. Yeah, it'd be nice. I mean, we
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: appreciate the rooting of the Bears, but don't don't depend
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: on them to help help the Vikings at all. The
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: skull hop for at least the next maybe the next
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: few weeks, except for what three weeks from now, two
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: weeks from now, the rest of the season aside from
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: one week, the school hop are rooting for the Bears.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: Yes, yep, other than that Monday night game where the
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: Vikings will reunite with the.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: Bears as well. So the Vikings This coming week, December one,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: they host Arizona. It's the first home game of a
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: three home game stand for the Vikings. Arizona just dropped
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: at least one kind of close one to the Seahawks
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: last week. I think at one point, if not for
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: a player to Kyler Murray was out the game. I
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: don't know how he's standing injury wise. I think he
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: finished the game on the field. I think I think
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: he did, so I think he's right now. I've heard
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: he's good to go. But the Cardinals are kind of
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: under underperforming this season. Kyler Murray, at least for a
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: little bit early on, looked like flashes of like, oh yeah,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: this is the guy that everybody thought was gonna happen
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: draft time a handful of years ago. But overall, what
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: are they? Five and six now? Six and five? Six
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: and five? Okay, so still a winning record. They got
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: a lot to play for him. Like we discussed, the
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: West Division is up in the air, so.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you've got the Seahawks at six and five,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals at six and five, and then the Rams
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: and the Niners both at five and six. So I mean,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: everybody's within a game of everybody in that division.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: And the Vikings seemed to be the team that just,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: let you know, underperforming guys go off. So I fully
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: expect Marvis Marvin Harrison Junior to have like two hundred
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: yards receiving this game or something like that. But I
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: will say, though, not to interrupt, but with this Vikings
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: d being so style, be interesting to see how Connor
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: does for the Cardinals, you know, rushing wise, I think
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: He's a pretty violent runner himself and can rack up
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: some yards, so that will be a point. But I
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: guess we don't need to belittle or belabor like Easton
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: victory or anything. We're already getting kind of along the
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: tooth here a little bit. But Evan, do you have
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: any final thoughts on kind of leading up to the
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: Arizona game before we give our score prediction. No, I
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: just think this.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: I said this a few weeks ago that the three
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: game road stretch and then the three game home stand
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: immediately following were crucial six games for the Vikings. Well,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: the Vikings are now three to zero in that road stretch,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: and they've now won four in a row going back
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: to the game before that. This home stand is now
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: it's make or break I think for the season.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, as.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: As the playoffs are concerned, you're looking at pretty much
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: a guaranteed five seed if you stay on the trajectory
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: you're on, which is not a no. But if the
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: Lions do what they've done and the Vikings do what
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: they've done, you're looking at a five seed and you're
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: looking at a road game in the wild card round
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: of the playoffs, which isn't a bad thing considering the
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: fact that nobody expected the Vikings to do anything.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: Which I posted this week that I hate that excuse.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: I don't want to hear that anymore. Rankings are good,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: The Vikings are good. We don't need to use the
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: they only should have won six games. They're a good team.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: But I said it a few weeks ago, and I'm
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: going to say it again. We've won nine games.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: So what Yeah, so what haven't done anything?
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: Everything is in front of this team, right and that
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: includes the number one seed in the NFC. And I
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: don't think the Vikings are a bad team that can't
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: achieve that level of greatness. Now, the Lions are a
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: really good team as well. And I'm not trying to
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: belittle the Lions, but one of the closest losses the
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: Vikings have had on the seasons was to the Lions. Yeah,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: and if that game had been just a little bit longer,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: the Vikings may have squeezed that one out. And if
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: you know, a few things had gone the Vikings way
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: instead of not, that may have gone the other way.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: So the Vikings looked pretty good against the Lions, albeit
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: it was a loss. It's gonna come down to these
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: next three games Arizona, Atlanta and then ending with that
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: Monday night game against Chicago at home.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: Which the Bears have already proven they're gonna play the
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: Vikings hard. Oh yeah.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: And I think the Falcons are going to play the
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: Vikings because that's the Kirk Cousins revenge game. And I
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: think the Cardinals are going to play the Vikings hard
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: because there's still very much in the fight for the
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: NFC West. So these three home games are going to
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: be tough. They're not going to be easy. But the
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: advantage for the Vikings is that home crowd, the familiarity
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: of home. I'm not saying that the Vikings are going
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: to win the rest of their games till the end
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: of the season.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: It's not impossible.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: It's certainly not impossible, but it starts with these three games.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: That's what I where I'm at right now. I'm not
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: concerned about going to Seattle. I'm not concerned about the
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: Packers at home, and I'm not concerned about going to Detroit.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: In Week eighteen. We got to get through these three games. First.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: We got to play really well against the Cardinals, the
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: Falcons and the Bears, and then we'll see what happens
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: after that. That's those are my thoughts.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: All right, awesome. I've kind of on our outline just
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: given away my score prediction, but you'll notice I won't
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: have I don't have any team listed down. So I
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: think this game is going to end with a score
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: of twenty four to twenty and I think the Cardinals
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: are going to beat the Vikings. Oh wow. I think
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: the Vikings have been on the brink of letting other
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: teams win, win a play, win a series, win on
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: one or two sides of the ball. I think the
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: Vikings are going to drop a tough battle against the Cardinals,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: who are desperate. And I think Marvin Harrison Junior shows
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: why he was what the sixth overall pick or something
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: like that. What was he out there? I don't think
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: this is going to be the end of the season.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: I think I still think the Vikings win most of
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: their games from here on out, and I think they're
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: still even with this projected possible loss. I think there's
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: still a chance the Vikings and Lions entered their last
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: game of the season with the same record. But yeah,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: I think I think eventually the Vikings aren't gonna win
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: every game the rest of the season probably, and this
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: might be one that they drop. Interesting.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take your same score prediction, oh man, and
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna flip it on and say twenty four to
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: twenty Vikings win.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: I hope you're right. I hope I'm right too. I
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: hope you're wrong, because.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: That would mean the Vikings, for the second time this season,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: have won five games in a row, which would be awesome,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: and they'll kick off this three game home stretch on
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: the right foot. And I think that's what the Vikings
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: need to finish this season well, and to avoid what
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: I just finished talking.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: About, right, to avoid this, like, all right, we want
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: a bunch of games, So what right, Like if we
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: win fifteen games, fourteen games, thirteen games and the Vikings
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: are a wild card on the road and they lose
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: in the wild card round, all those wins don't really
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: mean a whole lot. Sam Darnold's going to be gone
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: and this team is going to be looking at this
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: whole new refsh kind of a lot of the Bears
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: cyclical thing that they've got going on over there in Chicago. Right,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: it's just gonna be this carousel of right, next guy,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: up JJ McCarthy, you know, and we're gonna be right
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: back here talking about all right, JJ McCarthy, let's go
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: see what he can do. And you know, so much
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: better beyond podcasts, and I can talk about JJ McCarthy. Great.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: We thought we had that. We thought in April when
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: I was sitting next to you and the Vikings drafted JJ,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: we were thought, oh man, we're finally going to root
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: for at least the same guy. Yeah, and we still will,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: but we will, we will, all right, Forrest, We'll give
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: you the option.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: You can either make a score prediction for Vikings Cardinals
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: or you can make a score prediction for Lions Bears.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: Well, but I'll do it. I'll do a quick Vikings Cardinals.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: That is a tough one because I think both both
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: teams are are coming. You know. It's it's crazy because
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: obviously the Cardinals came off the tough one as Seattle.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: At Seattle, you came off with a tough win, you know.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: In Chicago. I I'm actually thinking I'm kind of leaning
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: towards the Cardinals close one. I think twenty seven to
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: twenty four. I think it's gonna be a it's gonna
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: be a battle because both teams are are playing overall
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: good and maybe the Cardinals record doesn't reflect it, but
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: they got they got players, and uh, you know they're
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: right in the hunt for for that that NFC West. Yeah,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: for sure. Another point. And we don't have to do
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: the research or really even belabor this. But how many times,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: and this is for the Vikings and honestly the Packers too,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: has a team before Thanksgiving? And I know that's kind
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: of a loaded stat this year because Thanksgivings as late
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: as it can be late, But how many times has
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: an NFL team before Thanksgiving that had eight or more
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: wins and not held the lead in their division? Hmmm?
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: I mean again? And this is we can't take anything
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: from the Lions. They won every game. You can't steal
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: it from them. They're they're freaking d bags, but they're
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: winning and don't I don't have hatre don't I give you?
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: Can we still avoid that little eh? If I say
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: d bag? Now I've said it twice at least I
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: did to drop the f you know whatever. But the
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: Vikings and Packers are both eight plus win teams before
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: the before Thanksgiving, and neither of them have the lead
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: in their division. I think I just think it's interesting
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: to think, like any other year, this Vikings team would think, like, Okay,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: another week or two and at nine and two before Thanksgiving,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: like we might win the division. Have it all locked
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: up in the next two weeks, you know. Well, and
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: coming back to this a little bit, the Vikings and
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: the Lions could finish with a fifteen and two record,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: both of them. And if that happens, then obviously the
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: Lions are the one seed and the Vikings of the
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: I've seen it best.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: And that's such a wild scenario because a fifteen and
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: two team as a five seed in the playoffs. Yeah,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: nobody wants to host a fifteen and two team in
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. But can you imagine like you said, you
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: said it, and then you kind of went back on
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: what you said because you predicted the Vikings to lose
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: against the Cardinals, But you said, it's not without it's
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: not outside the realm.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: Of possibility for the Vikings to win out. It's not. No,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: they're playing.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: But I think the struggle here for the Vikings is
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: these playoff hungry teams. The Cardinals want to get into
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, the Falcons want to get into the playoffs.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: The Bears still can do it. They're not eliminated, they're
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: not out of it. Yeah, I would, I would, and
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: I don't have the rest of the Lions schedule. I
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: would say, what what's the rest.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: Of the Lions schedule? Because I'm hearing from you is
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: you're you're basically guaranteeing the Lions are at least going
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: to lose one more.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: The Lions had well, so right now the Lions have
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: only lost one. If the Vikings and Lions finished with
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: the same record at fifteen and two, it would mean
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: that the Vikings beat the Lions in Week eighteen, because
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: right so, the Vikings would win out and then the
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: Lions would win out except for that last game.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that's gonna happen. It's a possibility.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: I'm just I'm thinking, and not that stats are everything
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: i'd be. He's just interested for the remainder schedule. Who
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: has a tougher schedule? The Vikings are the Lions. I
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: think the Lions do. I think I think so.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: But the Lions have of course the Vikings once they
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: have the Packers, once they have the Bears twice, right.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: And this is not just because you're on the show.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: Right now, the Bears have proven, at least divisionally, they're
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: gonna play teams tough. They're not going down without fighting.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, sure, the Bears at this point are not
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: an easy win. I'm definitely concerned about that Monday Night
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: game in a few weeks against the Vikings and Bears.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: If I'm a Lions fan, though, I'm so calling the
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: Bills game Week fifteen and the.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: Forty nine Ers game. Well, if you're a Lions fan,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: that means you're one of those delusional people who suddenly
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: think the Lions can do no no wrong after a
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: thousand years of never doing anything right.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: So well, anyways, I'm not a Lions fan obviously by
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: all of the Viking stuff surrounding us, but I think
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: the Lions still have the tougher games they have the Bills, who.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: I'm not disagreeing with you, I haven't I hadn't looked
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: at either schedule, so.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: I think the Bills will prove to be a that
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: that may be one of the best games of the
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: season right there, Week fifteen, It really could be. When
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: is it December fifteen?
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: What week is that? Week fifteen? Yeah, that's going to
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: be a game to Circle.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: That's going to be the time of the week's Detroit.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: It would be better if it was in Buffalo, out
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: in the cold.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: But then.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say this, and this is a hot take,
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: don't kind of out the San Francisco forty nine ers.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: I think I know brock Party's hurt right now. I
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: know Trent Williams is kind of iffy right now. But
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: if they get their guys healthy, they are a dangerous
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: football team.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: And I don't care if they've lost five or six games.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: I think I think they can still come back, make
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: a run here at the end of the season and
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: be a dangerous team, and they could potentially win the West.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: I would I would say, are very similar. I'd say
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: the Rams, even though coming off that loss yesterday, I
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: think they're a team if fully healthy, they can be
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: dangerous as well. So that I said, this West Division
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: is going to be nuts. It's as competitive as the
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: NFC North. It's just they have a few I mean
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: to think that San fran and the Rams, we're going
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: to be technically in the bottom half of this division
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: right now as it stands. Crazy all right, Well, we're
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: getting we're getting a little long, and I know there's
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: a few things we want to hit on before the
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: end of the episode, Evan, before we do our final
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: b review. Where can people reach out to us? Just
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: google us man the Skull Hop. It's right here on
• 1:33:09
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• 1:33:12
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• 1:33:15
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• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: We just recently added blue Sky to are our school.
• 1:33:20
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• 1:33:26
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• 1:33:29
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• 1:33:30
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• 1:33:37
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• 1:33:39
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• 1:33:40
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• 1:33:45
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• 1:33:47
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• 1:33:49
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• 1:33:53
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• 1:33:56
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• 1:33:58
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• 1:33:59
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• 1:34:01
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• 1:34:04
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• 1:34:06
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• 1:34:12
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• 1:34:15
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• 1:34:18
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• 1:34:19
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• 1:34:23
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• 1:34:29
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• 1:34:32
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• 1:34:33
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• 1:34:35
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• 1:34:38
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• 1:34:40
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• 1:34:43
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• 1:34:47
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• 1:34:50
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• 1:34:51
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• 1:34:54
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• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like a lla sunny Day, but we've
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: taken it and we've put sam Darnold in there. My
• 1:35:04
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• 1:35:07
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• 1:35:09
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• 1:35:12
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• 1:35:15
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• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, you never know when new stuff's gonna pop up.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: One thing that I didn't talk to you about yet,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: but I think you'll agree with. One thing we're all
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: really excited about is we've been invited to participate in
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: something that another podcast, the Man's Stream podcast, they are
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: putting on a live podcast event on January eighteenth. I
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: think it's called on Tap and it's the Manstream podcast.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: There's a handful of other podcasts as well. K love
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: You by Remulations, relations, revelations conspiring to argue Man, I'm
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: not I wish I could remember all of them that
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: are involved in this. We're lucky enough to have been
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: I did to participate in this. I think Evan's going
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: to try to figure out how to find the other
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: podcasts that are involved in this as well. But we're
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: going to have a live portion on January eighteenth at
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: what's the brewery called. I think it's in Bellevue, Iowa,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: river Ridge Brewing, river Ridge Viewing. It's a live event.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it's the better part of all day
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: Forrest on the Spot. I'm just going to send you
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: an invitation to come and join us for all or
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: some of it. When you said brew, yes, I was
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: heavy yep. So Evan, what are all the other podcasts?
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: So there's the Manstream podcast and then us the Skullhop.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: So yeah, Manstream is hosting. They've invited us to join Revelations.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: They were at the IOWA Podcast Awards, so we got
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: the rub shoulders with them. Beautiful View podcast. I don't
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: know much about them, but we'll get to meet them hopefully.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: K love you by another podcast that we got to
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: meet and talk to a little bit at the IOWA
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: Podcast Awards, and then conspiring to argue that you had
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: already mentioned yeah, which I don't know much about those
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: guys either, but yeah, so yeah, a stream and then
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: five others.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, and you mentioned a couple of times. I think
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: this whole on tap event was born out of another
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: event that we were lucky enough to be a part
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: of earlier this year, was the IOWA Podcast Awards. I
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: believe all of the other podcasts had a participation in
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: the IOWA Podcast Awards here a couple of months ago.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: And what episode was that. I think it was fifty
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: eight that we recorded live at the Iowa Podcast Awards.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: I'm not exactly sure one hundred percent all the details,
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: but we will I think at some point be doing
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: a live podcast at the on Tap event. Again, check
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: out especially check out the mainstream podcast. There are a
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: bunch of cool dudes and then K love you by it.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: For sure. We're really excited for that event. You'll see
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: more flyers and information come out on all our socials
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: about that and all the other podcast socials about that
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: coming up in the next few months. Yeah. What did
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: you guys think of the beer this winter logger from
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: back Pocket Brewing? I very much enjoyed. It's a light
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: beer and definitely five point two, but enough that we're
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: happy with the low level effects that we're feeling so far.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: And also it's got a light fruitiness and a light
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: warm autumn vibe to it that I've I've really enjoyed
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: it the whole time. Yeah, I would agree, good easy drinker.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: I think it got better after the first not that
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: I was bad the first couple cis, but really grew
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: on me and uh well done back Pocket. Yeah buy
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: again absolute only hundred percent.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 3: What do you think?
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh for sure, I was intimidated.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: I think I mentioned this I don't know if I
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: said it while we were recording or if it was before,
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: but I've seen this on the shelf before, and I
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: thought about buying it for the podcast, just as one
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: of those like, oh, let's try a beer that maybe
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: we'll both hate because we both just like have nothing
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: but good things to say about all the beer we try.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: And dude, we tried a crush berry beer that tasted like,
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: oh so good, the Captain Crunchberry line Bridge, and that
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: was delicious.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: And that's kind of like the same vibe that I
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: got from the title of this beer. And I'm like, oh,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: it's in such an unassuming can, like that must be
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: kind of like comedic, but no, I, you know, cracking
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: it open, pouring it up, smelling it for the first time,
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, this is gonna be a pretty
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: solid beer. And it's turned out to deliver on that promise. Yeah,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: so I like it a lot. Definitely, we'll have it
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: again over this holiday season.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: For me, the one knock I have on it, and
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: probably the only reason I haven't picked it up beforehand, honestly,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: is the can. It's very Yeah, well, it's just it's
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: it's simple, it's clean. It's nice to look at, but
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: it's also like I mean, and if you're looking at
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: this can compared to all the other ones at the
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: High V Show, I would say I would. I thought
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: about that as well. I'd almost challenge you though, because
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: sometimes cans are so obnoxiously like busy, and they're cool cans,
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: but they're obnoxious busy, where sometimes the simple can catches you.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: And I think what they're going for is this is
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: a simple lagger beer, so simple can you look at it?
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: When other breweries do a simple logger beer, they just
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: go simple can. So I think that's what their their
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: marketing scheme was. And I agree with you, and I
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: don't think there's nothing wrong with their can art. And
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: when you get down to nitpicking a can art, that
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: means the beer is good enough that you're just trying
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 2: to find problems. I think if I were looking at
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: this can and was thinking, Okay, I only have fifteen
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: dollars for a six pack on Thanksgiving to take to
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: my family's house and drink, so I don't have to
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: hear aunt Marge, well she's complaining about politics or whatever,
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: but like this wouldn't jump out at me. And this
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: is maybe me personally, this can kind of reminds me
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: of every other bush Light, cors Light, you know, every
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: other just regular light beer. But I think that can
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: doesn't do the actual beer. Don't judge a can by
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: its cover, because this beer is like I probably will
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: grab this for my total total. Totally agree with you.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: It's a great holiday beer. So well, once again, great
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: job back pocket. I I uh, I'm a beer enthusiastic.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: This at the spot. Yeah, I enjoy this and as
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: somebody who would never grab a Cranberry lagger before, I
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: will seek this out and have this many times. Again.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: Very good.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: You're out of beer over there, and I'm like one
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: sip down, oh man, from being done, and you so
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: are you did we already?
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: Did we go through our allotment? I think we made
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: man all right. Well that's some beers.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: Hiding down here.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: But it was that good. Yeah, it was that good.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: Oh man, Oh there we go. Oh you're gonna have
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: an Austin for here all right. Well on behalf of
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: Evan and the school Hot Forrest. Thank you so much
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: for thanks for having me. Guys, I think I mean it.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: If you wanted to come on every week, we would welcome.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: I won't I won't annoy you that much, but I'll
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: come on. We'll figure out what's just for the next
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: Bears Vikings game. For sure. I think at minimum you
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  Speaker 2: need to be on more often than just the Bears
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  Speaker 2: games and the draft time. It needs to be more
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  Speaker 2: than three times a year. Like I said, I appreciate
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  Speaker 4: He Hey, Viking spans Evan here from the School Hop.
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