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Trent is joined by Nick Marovets, Epic Spurs/Thunder game, NHL Game 7 & thoughts from the Cyclone Tailgate Stop · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Good afternoon. Welcome in.
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Miller and Condon on the air with you here on a Tuesday as we
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talk the world of sports. Take you up until 2O clock here
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this afternoon, Trent Condon joined by Nick Marvitz from
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Locked On Cyclones. Good to have Nick back in here
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once again. He'll be hanging out with us
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with our number one lot of Cyclone conversation coming up
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in segment #2 we're going to take a look back at what we
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heard yesterday in Des Moines and one of the stops from the
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Cyclone tour. We'll get into to that with Nick
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and dive deep into that. Some comments from Jamie
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Pollard, some of the coaches that's coming up here a little
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bit later on. We'll also be joined by Matt
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Poston's. We'll talk some Big 12 with him
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from Heartland College Sports that's coming up in the second
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hour of the program at 1:00 1/25.
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Sloane Paivo's Paivo will stop by as we will break down at what
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we saw last night in game one of the Thunder Spurs series.
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And what a game one it was. Double overtime victory on the
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road for San Antonio. And take a look at tonight's
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matchup, game one of the Eastern Conference Finals, as it'll be
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the Knicks hosting the Cavs. Nick, good to see you once
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again. What's happening over in your
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world? Well, a lot.
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Going on with the Cyclone Tailgate Tour, but certainly
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keeping up with all of these amazing games from all across
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sports right now, it's actually really eventful for I feel like
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May 19th. Absolutely.
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Is he had a lot to talk about and we will get into that
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certainly. And as you know in our business,
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the content business, any kind of content is good content, no
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doubt about it. Now, before we get started, I am
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walking wounded and Nick is seeing me right now last night
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with the thunderstorms. But little man, I was in the bed
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last night when I got back upstairs and finish up my work,
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finish up my Locked on Hawkeyes podcast for the day.
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And as I get there, all right, he's in the bed.
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Yeah, I might have had a scary dream or just the Thunder woke
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him up, whatever. And it happens from time to
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time. He's 6.
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And I like having a little guy in there from time to time.
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Not a bad thing, but for whatever reason he was kind of
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funky in there. He was a little shifted and I
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couldn't quite get comfortable. So I wake up this morning,
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everything's good, and all of a sudden as I roll over, I feel
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this twinge. Now I've had this happen semi
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recently, maybe like 6-8 weeks ago, something like that, where
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I felt it kind of hung around, lingered for a couple of days.
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It was not in the same area. This that I'm dealing with right
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now is immensely worse. I feel like I'm going to die.
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I'm like I'm the pain gets so bad at times that I'm I'm like
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sweating. It gets that bad.
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So Nick is seeing me right now. I have my arm in the air trying
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to just alleviate some of this pressure.
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I don't know if it's a muscle. I don't know if it's something
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with my shoulder blade. I don't know what it is.
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It's like back behind my arm. Now your personal trainer, I
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don't know if you I need to come to you and get some help here.
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I don't know what's going on, but this is awful.
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I don't know what to do outside of sitting here in pain talking
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with you today. Yeah, I am actually chuckling at
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the the arm in the air as we're breaking this down because it
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looks like it is painful. So I'm not laughing at
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necessarily the pain. It just kind of came out of
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nowhere. I receive a text.
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Hey, by the way, my shoulder is feeling it.
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I'm like, oh, OK, here we go. This is going to be, we have to
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get you fired up to get your mind off the shoulder.
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Are you generally a side sleeper?
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Was that what it was? I am, yes.
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I'm a side sleeper. I sleep on this side so on on my
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right side and that is the shoulder that both times has
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kind of been tweaked here. Getting old sucks.
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That is one thing that I'm looking Nick Maravitz.
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I well, I guess everybody's got to go through it, but good.
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This is stupid. I have a shoulder injury from
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sleeping. This is what happens, I guess,
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as you age right. Oh man and I I just got one
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right there. There's a good twinge that's
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happening. So I guess just keep it moving.
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Yes, absolutely. The only way to alleviate it is
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I have my my hand, my arm over my head and I guess that's
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what's I'm going to do for the next two hours.
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This is what it's going to be is just be sitting like this.
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I'm an idiot. Oh man.
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Well, Nick, that's that's how we kick off the show today.
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Welcome in. Thanks for joining me.
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Holy moly, that is so funny. I yeah, somebody needs to clip
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that. We need a we need a picture of
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the hand on the head. But the Bucks hat looks real
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good with the old logo, so I'm going to give you a little bit
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of credit there. Maybe.
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Maybe I'll turn the mental around.
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Yes, as we talked about last week when we were talking a
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little bit about jerseys and old school, yes, I am not a Tampa
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Bay Buccaneers fan. I do have the hat though,
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because I absolutely love this logo.
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I love the creamsicle color. So this is one of the one of the
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many retro hats that I have. And yeah, we went with
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Buccaneers today. So you can catch that if you're
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you're watching the show on YouTube.
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All right, Nick, let's get into it and let's start with games.
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Game one last night with the Spurs and the Thunder yesterday,
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I said I didn't give the Spurs much of a shot.
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Not in that game. I actually had the points in the
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Spurs. I thought it'd be a good game
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one. Thought the rust maybe it was
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going to be a factor getting Jalen Williams back involved
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into the mix for the Thunder that that was going to be an
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issue. So definitely had that component
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that I liked in game one just overall the way the Thunder were
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playing the Spurs. I am a subscriber to the theory
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in the NBA that there's certain steps that you need to take as a
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team, as an organization, the building blocks that have to
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happen, having to take your lumps.
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And I thought it was going to be too early for the Spurs to do
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it, but you saw it throughout the course of the game.
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Ken brought up the regular season and how during the
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regular season the Spurs had the Thunders number.
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It was one of the teams that actually had success against OKC
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this year and maybe that was going to be something to play
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that well, playoff basketball different.
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The regular season, I just wasn't quite there.
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But I'll tell you from the opening jump, you could just see
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that Wembe, the way that he changes shots, the way that he
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gets involved in your head. I saw it in the series before
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against my Timberwolves that there's just something about the
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guy on the defensive end. And then that doesn't even go
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with the the 41 and 24 that he had last night.
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But on the defensive end, he's so impactful in everything that
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other teams try to do, including some of the best things that the
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Thunder do. It gets in their head.
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And I thought we saw that right away last night.
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Absolutely. You see three blocks and it's
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not quite what you saw against the Timberwolves and you assume,
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oh, OK, it's maybe not quite the same thing, but there were
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multiple plays where he just impacted how you know, whoever
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it was, I saw the clip from SGA that was probably the the most
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notable. But whoever it was from the
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Thunder around the rim, his presence is very much felt.
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And so I was kind of with you when it came to the Thunder.
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I thought maybe they were just going to run away with this
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whole thing. It wasn't really going to be too
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much of a challenge now based on what I saw on game one.
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These Spurs look incredible if they can keep that up.
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I, I don't even know if I'm going to take the Thunder to win
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it all at this point. I mean, Wemby is really coming
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into his own here and it's fun to watch.
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No doubt. And the impactful of course the
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play of the game to be was that pull up 3 pointer.
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They were saying it was 28 feet. That thing was not 20.
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That thing had to be 30. That was just an absolute
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monster triple. You're down by three on top of
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it. It got a 2 for one out of it
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because there was still what, 28 seconds I think on the game
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clock after a nailed that 3, Porter ties it up in overtime.
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It just absolutely ridiculous. And Nick, I think you're like
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me, regular season NBA basketball, It's a tough watch.
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It's a very difficult watch to, to see on that front what you're
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going to get out of a guy, what you're going to be able to see
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out of a player. And I don't watch it.
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I, I just don't, I see the highlights.
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I couldn't know what's going on. It's very periphery that I'm on
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at that point in time. I knew he was good.
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We've seen that he's good. But in that environment, in that
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spot to step up in that kind of way, Stefan Castle was great
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early in the basketball game. He had other guys stepping up.
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But just overall, if you look at the way in the makeup of this
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team, but they're so young and, and you got to have a little
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luck to get 3 consecutive picks like they did as high as they
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did in the lottery in the way that that worked out for them.
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But boy, this team, they look different.
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And it in a way, it reminds me, Speaking of Oklahoma City, going
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back to the first time that we got to know Oklahoma City after
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the move from Seattle with Kevin Durant and James Harden and
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Russell Westbrook and that young crew, They in fact went up
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against the Spurs. And I think I said the exact
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same thing. There's certain steps you got to
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take, right? There's those steps that you got
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to take. They didn't.
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They ran right past it. They made their way to the NBA
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Finals and and it has to me, I know it's just one game.
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You got three more to win if you're San Antonio.
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Still, it has a lot of that same kind of feeling that these young
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guys, they're ready now. Oh, absolutely, yeah, No, I I
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think starting the series off this way tells a lot about where
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the Spurs are AT and gives them a real good jumping point
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because you start, you know, this series, maybe you lose by
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20 points or whatever. And it's it's it's one game,
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right? Like it's A7 game series.
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It's all about winning the next one in front of you.
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But this is going to give, I think San Antonio.
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I don't know. I'm, I hesitate to say like the
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hope because inside the building, I'm sure none of them
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assume that they're going to lose.
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I go back to when when I was in high school football, we played
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Clear Lake. I believe it was to go to the to
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state and everyone around town, even our coaches said, yeah,
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we're not. These guys are delusional.
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We're not winning this game, but all of us were like, we're going
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to win this game by 30. I don't know why everyone's
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concerned. So I think it's kind of the same
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thing where you're not going to say, oh, the Spurs now think
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they can win this series, but you have momentum on your side.
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That was just a phenomenal first game.
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From a fan standpoint. I actually like the Spurs moving
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forward, but I don't anticipate the Thunder going away.
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Going to be a great series. We are set up in that one
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tonight. We'll get game one in the
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Eastern Conference Finals. It'll be the Knicks against the
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Cavaliers. Knicks currently a 6 1/2 point
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favorite in that one. And we're going to get into much
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of the conversation also that we had yesterday.
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The rest versus the rest, yes, it was a 7 game difficult series
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for Cleveland. They were down three games to
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two, came back and won decisively in that Game 7 on the
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road. Now they take that momentum to
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New York, where Knicks have been waiting and they've been sitting
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there after playing maybe some of the best basketball that
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we've seen out of anybody at that point.
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They're out there playing at an incredibly high level, but they
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haven't played in a long time. And when you have that kind of
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layoff and just everything was clicking, every shot was going
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in, everybody was making the right pass, you can't replicate
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that certainly in practice. And you wonder about that
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component. Certainly I do for the Knicks
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tonight against the Cavs, who come in with that momentum
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trying to steal at least a game at Madison Square Garden
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tonight. And I think I'm leading like I
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did yesterday. I'm going to take the team that
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has been playing and definitely at least going to take the
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points with Cleveland tonight. I'm actually leaning the other
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way. I think you're just going to get
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a little bit of a a flat, tired look here and the rest is going
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to look really good. I think with the Knicks,
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obviously they're not going to have the same kind of gel right
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off the bat. I'm not anticipating, you know,
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a 40 point first quarter here or anything ridiculous.
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But I think as they get back into the game, they're not going
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to be, as you know, that they're not going to have jello legs.
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They're not going to be dragging themselves up and down the
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floor. Not to say that, you know,
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Cleveland's not conditioned, but certainly there is something to
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be said about taking some time, relaxing, letting the body
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recover, because this is a little bit of a long postseason
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and Cleveland just had to play more games to get there.
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I, I think it plays a small role.
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I I like the Knicks in this one, especially at home.
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Also last night, so we have this incredible game one happening,
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but there's also a game seven in hockey and though and not a big
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hockey guy, these are incredible game sevens.
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Just in general. There's something about the
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sport, the way that it plays out, obviously a winner take all
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situation and then he coupled with overtime and when it gets
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to overtime and that just sudden victory set and death scenario
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that you have, it takes it to another level.
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It's two teams that I know nothing about.
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It's two teams that I don't care about.
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I have no reading interest between Montreal and Buffalo,
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but it was compelling and it was difficult going back and forth
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because wasn't in the basement getting the kids down for bed.
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So I mean, it's just the one TV set up in our bedroom after I
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got the kids down and again, the thunderstorms had them coming in
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felt like every two minutes. But overtime, Gabe 7 absolutely
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amazing. It ends, Montreal moves on
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trying to get a cup for the first time since 1993.
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Montreal moves on an incredible environment.
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And again, and it's something that we've said often during
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this series, the amount Of Montreal fans in that there's
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something about that red that definitely pops.
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We see it at Kinnock Stadium. What Iowa State's in town,
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Wisconsin is town. There's something about that red
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that pops out there and he could definitely see, well, the
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Canadian fans in the building. Absolutely no, this is if you
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don't watch hockey, I don't I'm not going to hold it against
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you. Kind of the same thing we say
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with like the NBA watching the regular season.
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There's nothing wrong in my opinion with not watching the
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regular season. But if playoff hockey is not
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appointment television, we need to have a conversation.
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More importantly, if game seven playoff hockey is not set
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everything down and watch type of TV.
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Yeah, we we need have a little bit of a what do they call
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those? Like when you get everyone in
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there in the room and and sit down talk about the problem.
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I forgot those are called. I haven't had one yet, but those
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are those are must watch TV type situations.
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This one was incredible obviously in overtime as well.
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Shout out to the Canadians getting it done, but shout out
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to Buffalo for giving us a game. 7:00 to be able to watch.
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An intervention, that's what you're looking for, Yes, and an
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intervention, yes, definitely need that.
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You know, it's the same thing. I actually, I break this up with
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Ken from time to time because same kind of thing.
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I am not a huge tennis fan by any means, but like when
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Wimbledon comes around and we get a monster match up, it is a
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couple of big names in there. It's just about the competition
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at that point. It's about the competition.
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It doesn't matter the sport if you're just a sport fan.
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And that's the same thing with hockey because I'm not a hockey
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guy. But when it comes to the
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competition, you don't have to know everything.
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I know what icing is. I know what offside is.
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I I know those kind of things. It'll be the same thing here in
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a few weeks when we get to the World Cup.
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I'm not a soccer guy by any means, but it's the competition,
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it's the countries, it's everything that goes along with
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it that you don't have to know the sport.
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You just have to understand what that is between the lines and
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you get that definitely with hockey last night.
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Now Montreal now moves on and they got to take on this
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Carolina squad that hasn't lost during this playoffs.
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I mean, is this, is this thing over?
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Are we just automatically set up that this is going to be, it's
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going to be Colorado, Carolina, wake me up when we get to the
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Stanley Cup finals or at least one of these two conference
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finals, do you think we're going to get something compelling?
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We might I I like Carolina here, at least in the series, but I
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don't know if it'll be all that close.
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We're looking at maybe another rough rest situation here as
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well. Skill gap potentially.
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I am leading Carolina, but I'm not putting it past the
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Canadians to at least come away with, if nothing else, a few
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compelling games. I'm not going to say that
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they're going to get swept for gentlemen sweep here, not even
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going to put out a prediction. I just think they'll keep it
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close at least in one game. I like Carolina overall though.
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All right, we're talking with Dick Barvetz.
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He's hanging out with me today, the next couple of days with us
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on Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network as we
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bounce around. Going to talk some more Cyclones
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coming up here in just a little bit as we'll get into some of
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the big news items that came out of the tour stopover with the
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Cyclone tour in Des Moines yesterday.
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Before that though, what a jump into some baseball with you.
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The Cubs, they take it on the chin once again.
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They fall 932 Milwaukee new walk again.
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This was going to be a difficult 1 still team Pats aren't there
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yell it's just starting to get hot.
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You get concerned about that, certainly from a Brew Crew angle
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and in a game where he got Imanaga out there that have been
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so good, he just did not have it.
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Gives up nine hits in the game, 9 earned runs, just two
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strikeouts, gives up a couple of home runs.
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And this Cubs team, they're not circling the drain.
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It's nothing where you want to overreact to this point in time,
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but it's been a struggle after what happened over the weekend
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against the White Sox. Starting to go down, all those
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pitching injuries, maybe they're starting to catch up just a
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little bit. The bullpen had issues over the
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weekend and it's Milwaukee and we've seen this Milwaukee team
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year after year after year. They don't spend a lot of money,
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but the way that they build, the way that they draft, the way
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that they just put together A-Team, it looks like we're
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going to at minimum have a really good race in the Central.
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Once again, after just maybe a week ago, there were some Cub
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fans, I thought we're going to coast in, this thing's going to
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be easy. I don't think that's going to be
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the case. Yeah, When I was in studio, the
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tone around these Cubs, you, you've completely changed your
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tone looking, if my math is right here, two and seven
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through their last nine, definitely not on a hot streak
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after looking at what they did to the Diamondbacks and the
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Reds, what what do you attribute this to?
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I mean, are you completely out on the Cubs or are you just like
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hedging your bets a little bit? This is more of what I was
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expecting because the tone is very different.
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Yeah, absolutely. I think more than anything, this
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is the course of 162. And Ken, he starts to freak out
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like they'll be moments during the last five years.
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And the Dodgers, they're terrible.
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It's not going to happen. They go through a bad stretch
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and this is going to happen for most everybody, right?
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Most everybody has these kind of stretches where you're just not
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playing good baseball. In fact, that was the Cubs,
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what, the first week of the season, they were not playing at
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a high level. Maybe it was week two of the
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season, whatever it is that those are the lows, the highs
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and the lows that you get during the course of the baseball
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season. I think though, it's more than
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anything Milwaukee's starting to come on and that's where you
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start to go. The lead is now down to just a
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half game in the division. But I don't like to overreact to
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baseball. I don't like to one game
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encompass everything that's wrong with the squad, everything
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that needs to go differently, those kind of things.
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I don't think that's fair. And yes, baseball is a fun sport
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to talk about. And you know, Dick, I, I get
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this often. How do you talk about baseball
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on the radio? Radio talking about baseball, I
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think is the easiest sport because of the grand scheme of
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things for football, which is obviously our lifeblood, right?
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I mean, that's that's what makes the engine go for everything
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that we do is football. But on the baseball side, you
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can second cast so many decisions by a manager.
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You can second guess pitch selection.
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I mean, there's there's so many things you have to watch the
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games, you have to dive in and actually be watching.
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But baseball more than anything leads to that on a day-to-day
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basis. But when I look at things big
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picture, those are the parts that I don't want to overreact.
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And that's the difference between by Co host on that front
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because he likes to overreact to those individual one day
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circumstances that are out there and the Cardinals on top of it.
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They're just not going away. They're hanging around too.
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I don't know how they're doing it.
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I don't think that rotation is going to be able to hold up
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throughout the course of the season.
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But they can be a playoff team. I mean, talk about a huge step
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forward this year, even a wild card team for a team that looked
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like they were going to be a rebuild.
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I think most everybody had them last in the division.
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That was definitely not the case at this point in time.
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Still everybody in the National League Central above 500.
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This thing's going to be a race all the way to the end.
18:43
I believe in the central. One final thing of baseball last
18:46
night. So as I'm flipping around and
18:47
trying to come down from the high last night of the Thunder
18:50
Spurs game and how awesome that was coupled with an overtime
18:53
game seven of the NHL, I'm flipping around and I come
18:55
across well, I saw an alert on Twitter that a guy's got a no
19:00
hitter going. I'm like, all right, MLB Network
19:02
jumped over there and they cut in as we had a guy that honestly
19:08
I never heard of. I didn't know who JT Ginn was or
19:11
maybe it's gin. I don't know. 26 years old out
19:14
of Mississippi State, made his debut a couple of years ago.
19:17
He has had a a nondescript career to this point.
19:20
Made 16 starts a year ago with the A's had an ERA north of
19:24
five. Those guys got no hitter.
19:26
So not only do we go to the 9th Eddie and got that and I just
19:29
love watching baseball at that point.
19:30
I think all of us again, going back to the sport fan doesn't
19:33
matter if it's a game between the A's and the Angels.
19:35
He just, you want to be involved, you want to see
19:37
something, you want to see something historic.
19:39
And for JT Ginn, that was the opportunity for him last night.
19:43
And he gives up a single. So they're all headers over and
19:46
then he gives up a home run and they lose 2 to one.
19:48
I mean, you just talk about the brutality of sport that
19:52
encompasses it right there. No, that is.
19:55
That's about the turn on the dime that really sends you home.
19:58
That is so unfortunate. I wanted to make a quick point
20:02
about baseball because you, you talk about overreacting and, and
20:05
whatnot. 162 games is so different from 12 or, or 16 or I
20:11
guess it's 17 in the NFL now. Like in football, it's like you
20:14
really only get to talk about a game a handful of times and what
20:18
the team is made of and what the future looks like.
20:19
Literally less than 15 times in some cases for college football,
20:23
For baseball, that's literally 10 times the amount.
20:27
And so you have to kind of extrapolate your thoughts.
20:29
Out 10 times ever since we've started kind of, you know,
20:33
breaking down baseball here, I've started watching a little
20:35
bit more and we actually bought a radio, a true like dial radio
20:40
last weekend. And I love throwing baseball on
20:42
that. So I actually listened to some
20:44
of the games. Baseball is just so fun to have
20:46
on in the background. Then when you get in and
20:48
actually watch the games, especially with somebody who
20:51
knows baseball and they're talking about, oh, you see how
20:52
he set up this pitch because not every pitch is the same.
20:56
There's so much nuance to it that I love it.
20:57
And then when you get into this no hitter and you're like, I
21:00
have no idea what's going on, but this is awesome.
21:02
And then a home run and you're like, wow, that really turned
21:06
around quickly. How quickly it can change Well,
21:09
as I try to get comfortable here, I'm still now finding
21:12
nothing with my shoulder. I got absolutely nothing here
21:15
now. So I've had my shoulder over my
21:17
head, as Nick knows now for, I don't know, the last 22 minutes.
21:21
And I tried to stand up at one point that made it worse.
21:24
So that didn't work at all. So I'm back sitting down.
21:27
So I got my hand, but my arms getting sore because, well, I,
21:31
I'm not in very good shape. And just holding your hand up
21:35
like this for 22 minutes, I mean, that can't be good.
21:37
You don't have people work out doing this, right?
21:38
This isn't something that's part of the routine you're putting
21:41
people through, no. I was actually thinking at the
21:45
start of the show, he's going to get tired this arm up forever.
21:48
I was thinking, do you have like a sling in the backroom that we
21:51
could throw it in and and just completely let it rest?
21:53
That is, that looks like it's a big deal. 22 minutes is a long
21:57
time to hold an arm up for. So I am almost at this point
22:00
wondering it must really be A7 or an 8 out of 10 pain level.
22:03
It's it's significant. Yes, we're, we're working our
22:06
way through this. One good thing that I can
22:08
control the mics here because I, I grimaced and maybe let out a
22:11
groan time or two getting the kids to school this morning.
22:15
I, I was really hurting and let out a groan and, and the look on
22:19
my kids face, they, they thought I was dying.
22:21
So that I know that's going to be fine.
22:22
It's all right. Are you, are you, are you going
22:26
to do anything or are you just going to wait it out and see if
22:28
it gets better? I think I'm going to wait it
22:29
out. I took some Aleve this morning.
22:32
That was the first thing I took and then I took a little bare
22:35
back and body. I just took that right before
22:38
the show. It definitely is not kicked in
22:40
at this point. After I took the Aleve, that did
22:43
alleviate it a little bit and definitely still could feel it
22:46
in there, but it was OK at this point.
22:49
But it's back in a big time way. I'm struggling.
22:52
So what do you do? Do you just go to like a, you
22:55
know, a quick place? I'm not going to go to the
22:57
emergency room. I don't think that's anything we
22:59
need to worry about. No, not at all.
23:01
Outside to send a big bill. And we don't want to do that.
23:03
So is this just rest at the beginning?
23:06
What do you say? Doctor Marvitz, help me out.
23:10
Yeah, I'm kind of leaning towards resting and giving it a
23:14
day because it was essentially an acute event.
23:17
Let it find out what's actually hurting.
23:19
Maybe it's inflamed. If you can pinpoint the
23:21
location, front, back, whatever. If it persists, I would
23:24
potentially look at a PT appointment, I'm a shoulder
23:27
specialist and say, hey, this is kind of where the pain is.
23:30
Maybe it's a rotator cuff issue, some sort of impingement
23:34
potentially. I obviously haven't been able to
23:37
run you through some exercises, but I can see that it's
23:39
bothering you. Yeah.
23:40
So I would definitely, you know, in the next few days start
23:44
looking at all right, can we get into a specialist and see if
23:46
there's a few exercises or, or some, you know, kind of relief
23:51
movements that I can go through too?
23:52
Because I mean, I don't want you holding your arm up like this
23:54
for two hours for the rest of the week.
23:56
Yeah, that would be good. That wouldn't be good.
23:58
I'm sure we will make our way through it.
23:59
I don't think it's going to be a big issue.
24:01
But hit me up on Twitter at Trent County.
24:03
You got any ideas of of ways that we could alleviate things?
24:06
We're going to get into Iowa State on the other side.
24:09
Jamie Pollard spoke. I thought a couple of headline
24:12
items that came to him. We heard from Otts.
24:14
We heard from also Rodgers. So we're going to talk some Iowa
24:17
State on the other side with Nick Marvitz hanging out with
24:20
me, old man Condon here today. It's Miller and Condon on the
24:23
Iowa Sports Radio Network. 1230 back with you, it's Miller
24:38
and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
24:41
Trent Condon joined today by Nick Marvitz from Locked On
24:44
Cyclones. We can talk some cyclones here
24:47
and Nick as iPod, the music down, it's kind of hurting
24:51
again. We're on the right side with
24:53
that. I think I found something to
24:55
alleviate a little bit more. Now this is going to be a little
24:58
bit of a problem because I just unplugged my headphones while I
25:01
tried to do this. But if I put both hands behind
25:05
my back and if you're just joining, I slept on my shoulder
25:07
wrong and I'm hurting today, if I go and have both my hands
25:12
behind my head like this, it'll leave me.
25:15
It's just a little bit. So this might be now I'm going
25:18
with the the old school hands above the head.
25:20
Almost the surrender Cobra is working out a little bit better
25:23
to alleviate, but I also have to kind of lean back into it here.
25:26
So this is working for now. I'm a disaster.
25:31
I do think that's a good play because you can essentially
25:34
relax the arm right and and let it hang.
25:37
You don't have to hold it up. So I I think this is a better
25:41
play, especially if you've gotten about 90 minutes left
25:44
here. Did you get up?
25:45
Did you get moving during the break there?
25:47
The try to like rotate it through, that really hurts.
25:51
That is really. Yeah, really feel it again, it's
25:54
like in the back shoulder area, like a shoulder blade area is
25:58
where it is maybe a touch higher.
26:00
I don't know. We'll battle our way through.
26:02
Look, I'm not digging ditches. We're talking on the radio.
26:05
We're having a good time. And Speaking of good time, good
26:07
time for Cyclone fans and a lot of relevant information that
26:11
comes out yesterday from Des Moines as Alec Bussey here from
26:15
KXNO and Cyclone Insider, he had a lot of great insight into what
26:19
happened at that. I want to start with Jamie
26:22
Pollard and some of the comments that he made because there is a
26:25
wide swath of it. So have you recorded your
26:28
podcast yet? Locked down Cyclones on
26:30
everything that we heard. Not on the stuff that we heard
26:33
today or or in this, you know, in this media availability.
26:36
Actually I talked about the something that Jamie Pollard did
26:39
talk about the Big 10 and the SEC potentially splitting off.
26:43
So I'll go more into this this week, but not explicitly on
26:48
these media availability yet. So let's start right there with
26:52
that conversation and what Pollard had to say about if the
26:56
big Twit, Big 10 and the SEC are going to do it, just do it.
26:58
And not just for football, they're going to do it.
27:00
Do it for all sports. The part of that, though, that
27:04
Jamie Pollard, I don't think he's missing.
27:05
I think he understands that is it's not going to just be about
27:09
the ET teams from the Big 10 and the 16 from the SEC is they're
27:13
going to add a few more. There's going to be more
27:15
additions that come if that comes to fruition, and it's
27:18
going to be going out there and getting a course in Notre Dame,
27:21
a Florida State, Miami, Clemson, potentially, maybe the Arizona
27:27
schools, potentially a Texas Tech.
27:29
There'll be a few more BYU, maybe part of that mix.
27:32
Utah could be a part of it. But what is left is the remnants
27:37
of the ACC, the remnants of the Big 12.
27:41
And at that point in time, what does that look like for the rest
27:45
of those conferences? What does that look like going
27:47
forward? Is it now the remaining Big 12
27:50
teams? Which Iowa State would be
27:51
amongst the remaining teams? We could be honest about that
27:54
part. Yeah.
27:56
You could have an NCAA tournament.
27:58
And yes, you're still going to invite the winners of the
28:00
Sunbelt, the Missouri Valley and everything for basketball.
28:03
And you're still going to have the Group of 6 on the college
28:05
football side competing. But what does that mean
28:08
financially for Iowa State? And the money that they're
28:10
currently getting from TV deals is going to look a whole lot
28:13
different than what they're currently getting.
28:15
And certainly when you're not striving to be in the College
28:18
Football Playoffs, striving for a national championship as we
28:20
know it, if you're not part of that group, your finances are
28:24
going to look a whole lot different.
28:26
Oh, definitely. And you know what it kind of
28:27
reminds me of? This is not a perfect parallel,
28:29
but it kind of reminds me of like the PGA Live split because
28:32
it was so money driven. That's just really the only
28:35
parallel. But it kind of has me thinking
28:37
the same way. The conference realignment is
28:39
the interesting thing. And honestly, before Jamie
28:41
Pollard's comments, I was wondering if there was a way
28:44
that Iowa State could position themselves and potentially make
28:47
a move. I don't know if the SEC and the
28:49
Big 10 are going to want them after those comments.
28:51
I mean, it's one it's one comment, but it still it doesn't
28:54
come across in the best way. Then I was wondering, can
28:57
potentially the Big 12 try to Add all of the top ACC programs
29:02
and force the Big 10 and the SEC to work with them?
29:06
If you've got, you know, Miami, I saw the Ross Dellinger article
29:10
talking about 21 of the top 23 schools in the entire country as
29:16
far as wealth goes were in the Big 10 of the SEC.
29:18
The other two being Florida State and Clemson.
29:20
They can grab those. Maybe they can position
29:23
themselves in a weird way. Ultimately, it's going to come
29:26
down to I think this is going to happen.
29:28
I do think that the Big 10, the SEC will eventually split off
29:31
because, you know, we can get into the money numbers and the
29:34
reasoning here if you want, But it's, it's, I mean, they're
29:37
frustrated and I think it's going to happen sooner rather
29:41
than later. And so it's coming down to me
29:43
for how does Iowa State find a way to stay in this?
29:48
Because Jamie Poehler talked about on the Spotlight podcast
29:52
has been a few years now. He talked about like IRC could
29:54
end up like AU and I they very much could fall into that
29:57
position. And how do you avoid doing that?
30:00
Or are you OK with that? Is that actually better
30:02
financially? This this is very interesting
30:05
time, and I do think that college sports are on the
30:07
precipice of a major change. I think what you laid out is
30:12
realistically the only plan that can work for specifically for
30:16
Iowa State and the rest of the Big 12 is to go out there and
30:19
Clemson to Florida State. Remember, Florida State sued
30:21
their league. I mean, they say sued the ACC
30:23
and that you talk about a fracture inside the conference.
30:26
It feels like much like the Big 12 did 1520 years ago with
30:30
Nebraska and Texas and the back and forth that was happening
30:32
there. There's a lot of similarities.
30:35
Then they made the decision, the ACC did that.
30:37
All right, we're going to hand out money and you can make more
30:40
money depending on what you are national TV wise.
30:43
What kind of ratings you're bringing in as they made that
30:45
dynamic? Well, that was a dynamic that
30:47
Nebraska absolutely hated and most of the Big 12 hated at the
30:50
time and would eventually push the push the Huskers out and
30:53
going to the Big 10. It was because of that
30:56
discrepancy that we saw and what Texas was getting in comparison
30:59
to most everybody else in the league, them in Oklahoma who now
31:01
are no longer part of the league.
31:03
It's dangerous, but I think if you can make yourself no doubt
31:07
about it, the number 3 conference, there is nothing in
31:10
anybody's mind that that can argue the fact.
31:13
We can go back and forth with ACC and Big 12 football and
31:16
there's more name brand certainly in the ACC than there
31:18
is in this current iteration of the Big 12.
31:21
But if you can do that and do you have to give a sweetheart
31:23
deal to the Clemson, a Florida State, a Miami?
31:27
Still, if you make that happen, we're talking about a completely
31:30
different conference and that goes hand in hand.
31:32
Then again, with the sellable parts, the television inventory
31:36
and the other components that go along, that is the way the grant
31:40
of rights are incredibly difficult to get out of.
31:42
And that's the part with the ACC to make that happen.
31:45
Are we talking about something five years away, 10 years away?
31:48
What rights are up for a bunch of conferences starting in
31:50
20-30? I think the big 10/20/31, the
31:53
Big 12, something that range 2032 for the ACC, maybe they're
31:56
even 36. They're way down there.
31:58
I think that's the path though, of making that happen is a
32:01
realistic path. That's what makes a tough Nick.
32:04
Yeah, I agree. And the other kind of Ave. that
32:07
I was exploring was essentially if the Big 10 and the SEC split
32:11
off and you're right, there'll probably be some sort of
32:13
conference realignment. I don't know exactly what
32:15
that'll look like, but let's just entertain the idea that the
32:18
conferences look the same that they do for now for simplicity's
32:20
sake, right? So you've got your Big 10, your
32:22
SEC, and then they're now kind of like the NFL Lite version,
32:27
right? It's like you you don't you have
32:28
the free version of the app, you don't pay for the subscription.
32:30
That's kind of like the tier that the Big 10 and the SEC are
32:33
to the NFL or essentially like AAA to the MLB or whatever it
32:36
would be. Then below that is where you
32:38
find the Big 12 in the ACC, because it's, it's really not
32:42
going to be the same thing at all.
32:43
All of the Big 10, the SEC schools are going to spend a
32:46
ridiculous amount of money bringing crazy amount of talent.
32:49
Then the Big 12 and the ACC are going to be left with the rest.
32:52
Could Iowa State become one of the top teams in that tier?
32:55
Because, you know, as soon as a player isn't recruited to that
32:59
upper echelon, to the Big 10 SEC, whatever that league would
33:02
be, they're going to turn their heads to all right, well, what's
33:05
the next level? That way I don't fall down into
33:07
like the Group of Five or the Division two.
33:10
Can Iowa State be a destination for those players?
33:13
And where does the money come from?
33:14
What does all that look like? But I don't like that position
33:17
necessarily as much. I think it's something that
33:20
it's, it's a lot more reliant on success right now.
33:23
You can't necessarily move numbers around and move
33:25
conferences or or teams around and that's your answer.
33:28
You have to like win games and and find revenue somewhere to be
33:31
that answer. But that could potentially be
33:34
the position IO State finds themselves in where you
33:36
essentially say, all right, if this is the situation, we're
33:39
just going to be the best at the situation that we're in and take
33:42
advantage of what we're given essentially.
33:45
Football would be fine. If this plays out in this
33:47
fashion, it's the SEC in the Big 10 breaking away.
33:50
College football as we know it would be fine at the upper
33:53
level. It would be the SEC in the Big
33:54
10 battling, adding a few more schools.
33:57
But you wonder about the deck sports.
33:58
I mean, are you excited about an NCAA tournament that comprises
34:02
only a Big 10 and SEC programs? I don't think anybody would be.
34:07
No, that's why, yeah, that's why I bring up live in the PGA,
34:09
'cause they still let the live players play in the in the major
34:12
tournaments. Football would work.
34:14
Football absolutely work and work in television revenue.
34:16
The SEC and the Big 10 would be fine there.
34:18
And not just that, what is a wrestling?
34:21
Well, SEC doesn't have wrestling.
34:22
I told you before, my great uncle, he was a wrestling coach
34:24
at LSU. Well, that hasn't been around
34:26
since the early 1980s. That was the last time that most
34:28
SEC programs had wrestling programs.
34:31
A baseball tournament. When you talk about an SEC
34:33
invite between the Big 10 and the SEC for baseball, that is an
34:36
absolute laugher that I don't know how sellable that kind of
34:40
thing would be. And you go through just all the
34:42
different sports. It doesn't work.
34:44
It doesn't work the way that we know it and the finances, the
34:47
money that comes in, we look at the contract, obviously the CBS
34:50
and Turner give to college basketball what we get year
34:53
after year. That's not going to be the same
34:55
with an SEC Big 10 basketball Invitational for a quote UN
34:59
quote, national championship. That's where the rub is.
35:01
And and that's really going to determine all this, how this
35:04
plays out because Big 10 SEC, you can break away for football,
35:09
but the rest of the sports just aren't going to work.
35:11
Yeah, and Jamie Pollard is, it sounds like in the camp where if
35:14
you're going to break away, you're completely, you're not
35:17
associated with us at all. Like you don't get to play us in
35:20
all of these other smaller sports.
35:22
And then what does that mean for revenue for, you know, I was
35:25
trying to, I was going to say gymnastics, but obviously
35:27
doesn't have gymnastics anywhere.
35:28
So let's say like golf, right? What does that mean for golf?
35:31
Because you're not playing probably any Big 10 or SEC
35:33
opponents then. So your schedule looks
35:35
different. All that money's going to look
35:37
entirely different. So the best move for Iowa State,
35:41
I don't think was Jamie Pollard saying, hey, you guys could just
35:44
go ahead and leave. I don't know if that was maybe
35:47
the best play, but Jamie Pollard is certainly one of those guys
35:51
that he will just say what's on his mind.
35:53
And I think it's pretty clear where he sits on this entire
35:56
issue now. More from Jamie Pollard
35:58
yesterday and let's go next over to the side of things about
36:05
Saito. Now, you've heard my thoughts on
36:07
this from the get go. I couldn't wrap my mind around
36:10
it. I thought it was incredibly
36:11
difficult to just understand how this works in a community the
36:15
size of Ames. Think of the Main Street
36:18
downtown community and what that's going to be for them.
36:21
It was something that I've always struggled with, the
36:22
finances behind it, how it's going to work.
36:25
I've had Iowa State fans try to explain it to me.
36:27
I still can't quite get there, but then some of the comments he
36:31
made yesterday, still looking at tenants, well, that's out of our
36:34
hands. I don't know it.
36:35
It struck me as odd. At the very least, give me your
36:38
take away from Cytown. Yeah.
36:41
Well, just from my perspective as being someone that was in
36:44
college when it started, I don't think anybody was really happy
36:48
about it, to be completely honest.
36:49
You're losing out on a ton of tailgating space there.
36:52
And then they released the kind of look at what it could look
36:56
like the the rendering or whatever.
36:58
And it's like, oh, that's, I guess maybe a little exciting.
37:01
Then you're like, well, this is could potentially be a thing for
37:03
recruiting. And is there a way you can spin
37:05
this and make it like a percentage of the food or
37:10
beverages purchases here go towards athletic revenue?
37:13
Is there a way you could kind of spin that?
37:15
Ultimately, I'm not as enthused, I think, as some people are.
37:20
And then being in towns for the spring showcase this, you know,
37:24
just a few weeks ago, I wasn't impressed with the amount of
37:27
progress that they had made. And that's one of the comments
37:29
that Jamie Pollard made was, well, it's not going slow.
37:31
Well, it is. I mean, it is.
37:33
It's taking forever for this to go up.
37:36
I'll be back in 2045 and they'll have three buildings up at this
37:39
rate. So I'm not necessarily in love
37:41
with it, especially with the amount of tailgating space that
37:44
we're missing now. And it, it just feels like the
37:48
best way to say is it's like separated now, like the
37:50
tailgating scene felt like connected to the football area.
37:53
And now it's just like a massive dirt patch and some people
37:55
hanging out around that. I, I don't love it.
37:58
I do think these comments are probably the best things that
38:01
Jamie Pollard could have said in the situation that side town is
38:04
in. But ultimately I would have just
38:06
rather it stayed the way it was. Jamie Pollard also talked about
38:10
the woman's program and Bill Fenley program there.
38:12
We also got to hear from Bill Fenley, which was good because I
38:15
was kind of waiting for that to hear a little bit more from the
38:18
coach. Obviously the Parchers, the
38:19
headliners with Audie Crooks and Addie Brown moving on, Jada
38:22
Williams also going to LSU. So he had that component of it.
38:26
But Bill Fenley, a guy that is beloved, I mean, talk about
38:29
taking a program from the absolute doldrums of women's
38:32
college basketball into what it has been, the consistency.
38:35
But here from both Pollard and Fenley, I thought was good to
38:39
get their perspective. But as we talked about a ton
38:41
with football, same kind of thing with the women's
38:43
basketball team. Yes, you like some of the
38:45
pieces. All right, this kind of makes
38:47
sense. I don't think we're going to
38:48
have any clue at all though, how this is going to look until we
38:51
get into that first couple of games of the season.
38:54
No, absolutely. I do agree with Pollard's kind
38:56
of comments talking about like he's one of the most successful
38:59
coaches that Iowa State has had. I think it kind of gets slept on
39:02
just how good Fennelly has been, because I don't know if it's the
39:07
rapid increase in Iowa women's basketball success when Caitlin
39:12
Clark was, you know, in town, if maybe that's part of the reason.
39:15
But Bill Fennelly has been incredible.
39:18
And so the trust that Jamie Pollard is putting in him, I am
39:21
a fan of that. And I do think that's the right
39:24
move as far as what this upcoming season looks like.
39:27
It's just it's kind of like with football, like it's impossible
39:31
to tell right now. There's zero and zero.
39:33
So they could theoretically win every single game or they could
39:37
also lose every single game. I have absolutely no idea right
39:41
now. My guess is it's going to be
39:43
somewhere in the middle, probably around 500, a little
39:45
bit above that with Will with what Bill Fennelly is able to
39:48
do. And he built this team out to
39:50
his, you know, kind of vision. Doesn't have to base it around
39:53
one single player. We talked about that with Audie
39:55
Crooks. Like she wasn't a piece you
39:57
build around. She was the piece.
39:59
And now you can kind of go by success by committee.
40:02
And you can bring in different styles and how they mesh
40:05
together and all of that. I like Bill Fennelly's kind of
40:08
plan, at least how it looks on paper from that perspective.
40:11
But you're right, it's it's not ultimately going to be flushed
40:15
out until the season actually starts.
40:17
One other thing on this front, and I was trying to remember
40:20
because again, getting old, it's not just shoulder injury.
40:23
Sometimes your memory starts to fade a little bit and there was
40:27
a time that Bill Findley had what was called a lifetime
40:30
contract. Now, this is probably before
40:32
your memory really started in understanding the nuts and bolts
40:35
of things. So I finally found it was
40:38
something it was like a, a program that was sent out to
40:40
season ticket holders. It was called I on Sigh.
40:43
And it was this newsletter that was sent out and I found the
40:47
details of it. So this is back in April, May of
40:50
2007, and he was given at that time a 12 year contract
40:55
extension. It paid him $10.6 million
40:58
throughout the course of the deal.
40:59
That thing expired in 2019. There was a contract extension
41:03
that goes through this upcoming season that was given out a
41:05
couple of years ago at that point, but I just had this
41:09
memory of a lifetime contract. That's what it was.
41:11
It really wasn't a lifetime contract.
41:13
They said it because, well, it's a 12 year contract.
41:15
That's pretty much unheard of in college athletics and and that
41:18
was the reason behind it. But that was always sticking in
41:21
my mind so I was able to get through it.
41:22
But here's another fun thing. As I found this newsletter, I
41:25
think you'll get a kick out of this.
41:26
Again, going back to 2007. This is right in the middle of
41:31
the first page Fans to upset submit ideas for football
41:35
uniforms and helmets. Sliding a desire to return to
41:38
the school's official colors for uniforms, first year coach Gene
41:42
Chizik announced that ISU's football team will wear gold
41:45
pants beginning in 2007. And that will not be the only
41:48
change. So there's more a little bit
41:50
later on, but how about that? 2007 Iowa State was all about
41:53
wearing their school uniform colors.
41:55
Yeah, times have certainly changed.
41:57
I do like when it comes to the uniforms.
41:59
You see on Twitter some people mock up with the tertiary, like
42:02
the the blue. I think that's really cool.
42:05
But technically from my stance of like where the cardinal and
42:08
gold, I can't officially support the blue because it's not
42:12
technically a part of it. That's the same camp essentially
42:16
as black or white. It's just kind of like a color
42:18
that works with the Cardinal and gold.
42:21
I, I would, I mean, I'm the guy who plays Madden or, or college
42:24
football and goes with like red helmet, yellow jersey, red
42:26
pants, yellow shoes. I would die to see a game like
42:30
that this upcoming year. Just like a big bold red jersey,
42:33
white or yellow numbers, yellow pants, yellow helmet with a big
42:37
red tornado sigh on the sides. I would pay good money to see
42:42
them out there in that kind of a uniform.
42:44
Well, submit your ideas. It's only let's see 19 years
42:47
later than that newsletter came up with.
42:48
Submit your ideas, Nick, see what we could get.
42:51
We're going to talk to basketball, cyclo basketball on
42:53
the other side. We also got to hear from TJ
42:55
Otzelberger. We'll get knits.
42:56
Nick's thoughts on that. Nick Maravitz hanging out with
42:58
me today, our number one. He'll be back with us tomorrow
43:01
as well here on Miller and Condon.
43:03
Stay right there. It's the Iowa Sports Radio
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Network. Wrapping up our number one, it's
43:13
Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
43:16
Trent Condon, Nick Marvitz with me today.
43:18
Nick, we're running a little short on our so want to jump in
43:22
quickly. A couple of the other things
43:23
that we heard from the tailgate stop in Des Moines yesterday.
43:27
Let's start with us, talked a little bit about the transfers,
43:30
getting kind of his insight into the five newbies that are coming
43:33
in. Take away on that front for you,
43:35
Nick. Yeah, I really like a lot of
43:37
these guys. The way he talked about Jaquan
43:38
Johnson, not necessarily replacing Taemin Lipsy, but the
43:42
way he talked about him was really exciting.
43:44
And his comments about Taj Manning I think are maybe one of
43:48
the most exciting. Tremendous rebounder.
43:51
We know how important that is for Iowa State.
43:53
Felt like they lost every game. They didn't rebound well in this
43:57
last season. I Trey Singleton his comparisons
44:00
to Joshua Jefferson. How can you not look at
44:03
something like that? Very high praise for Ottelberger
44:06
on these transfers. Absolutely.
44:08
Over on the football side of things, anything from Jimmy
44:10
Rogers that you took away, anything that stood out from the
44:13
football side of things. I mean, obviously missing
44:17
another running back, not ideal. So I do think that we have to
44:21
sign the Tulane running back that came in and visited
44:25
yesterday. I talked about that.
44:27
I said it's now or never. I don't think you wait on that.
44:30
And now with another man down, just feels like it has to be the
44:33
move that Iowa State makes. Other than that, quoting Mike
44:36
Leach was certainly incredible. No doubt about it.
44:38
Hey, Nick, Good hanging out with you again today.
44:40
We'll do it again tomorrow, all right.
44:42
Can't wait. Thanks for having.
44:43
Me, absolutely. That's that.
44:44
Nick Marovitz locked on cyclones.
44:46
He can hear Nick each and every day talking all things cyclones.
44:50
Coming back on the other side, we're going to dive into the Big
44:52
12. JB Pollard's conference
44:54
comments. How much do they impact the
44:56
conference overall? From yesterday, we'll talk with
45:00
Matt Poston's from Heartland College Sports Hour 2 up next.