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Cath Cox's Live Mic Disaster, Netball's Biggest Awards Debate & AIS Secrets Exposed · No Dribble

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  Speaker 1: We've got to get through this episode quickly because Liz
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: is needed outside on slasher duty or something, which at
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: Halloween is a tricky time. But I'm going to start
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  Speaker 1: with a little song because it's big day in the
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  Speaker 1: diamonds world and it's Kazza on the mic with diamonds.
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  Speaker 1: Kazza on the mic with diamonds. I haven't made up
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  Speaker 1: any of the words. So you're on No Dribble, strap in.
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  Speaker 2: Music What rhymes with diamonds? Diamonds.
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  Speaker 3: Diamonds. Diamonds.
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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to No Dribble, the podcast where we
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  Speaker 1: just make up poetry because that's how gifted we are.
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  Speaker 1: My name's Carolyn Swindell.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Kath Cobbs.
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  Speaker 5: Liz Ellison, you can tell that we are all so tired.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so tired. It's still Monday for us. Big night tonight.
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: Big night tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Exciting.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so excited.
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  Speaker 4: Has everyone got a frock? Yes. I don't know your
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  Speaker 4: frock in the hallway. You will look like a diamond.
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  Speaker 1: I was trying on my dresses on the weekend to
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  Speaker 1: see Do I need to go and buy a new one?
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  Speaker 1: Do I need to hire one? And I still have
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  Speaker 1: some lovely dresses. It's been a couple of years since
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  Speaker 1: I've worn that.
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  Speaker 4: I would like to wear it.
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  Speaker 5: What colours are you wearing?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, green and gold. No, it is actually, I'm wearing green.
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  Speaker 5: Isn't it red, that one out there?
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  Speaker 1: That's for another event.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, my God, excuse me.
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  Speaker 1: I've got a bit of fanciness coming up. My first
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  Speaker 1: fanciness is I'm wearing green.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I'm wearing red. Oh, well, luckily I'm not wearing red.
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  Speaker 4: I know, that would have been fun. Elizabeth, what are
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  Speaker 4: you wearing to hand out very special awards?
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  Speaker 5: Not green and not red.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: You don't know?
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  Speaker 1: You should wear amber and then we can just pretend
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  Speaker 1: we're traffic lights all night.
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  Speaker 5: LAUGHTER If I had an amber dress, I absolutely would.
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  Speaker 1: And that's quite funny because Kath is the tallest of
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  Speaker 1: us and you'd be in the middle on amber and
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  Speaker 1: I'm the shortest of us on green. So we'd be
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  Speaker 1: doing a terrific job at.
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  Speaker 5: The traffic light model. We'd be doing so well. Anyhoo, look,
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  Speaker 5: I know it's tonight but it's Monday and I'm too
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  Speaker 5: tired to think about what the time warp means.
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  Speaker 3: I'll probably wear a black frock.
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  Speaker 4: Nice. And you have to do, do you have to
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  Speaker 4: do any other official duties other than handing out the
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  Speaker 4: greatest and best award of the night?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm sure someone will tell me if
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 1: Between now and Friday. Do you know, Catherine, do you
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  Speaker 1: have to sing a song or anything? Is it a
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, is it a Rock and Roll Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Fame performance for you?
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  Speaker 4: No, but I did like that outfit someone AI'd me
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  Speaker 4: in for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame on Facebook.
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  Speaker 1: What was that?
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  Speaker 4: Did you see that?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know who put that up there.
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  Speaker 5: Gets put through a very lengthy interview process on stage.
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  Speaker 4: Do I?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, lengthy?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, maybe not lengthy.
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to scare you.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just going to be me and your mum
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  Speaker 1: on the drink on Friday night and you girls having
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  Speaker 1: to keep yourselves nice because you've got jobs to do.
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  Speaker 4: I'll remind myself it's not a No Dribble event when
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  Speaker 4: I get up on stage.
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  Speaker 3: Good, good, good.
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  Speaker 1: Good plan.
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  Speaker 4: Elizabeth, what's the actual diamond look like for the winner?
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  Speaker 4: Because we're going to delve into who we think it
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  Speaker 4: might be.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but we're doing that in the second bracket.
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  Speaker 3: No, I know.
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  Speaker 4: We're not talking about, I just want to know about
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  Speaker 4: the jewels. Is it like just a single diamond?
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  Speaker 3: It's a single diamond.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so they get it set however they want, don't they?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 5: And if you're very confident in your abilities, you say
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  Speaker 5: this is the first of my diamond earrings.
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  Speaker 2: Mm.
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  Speaker 5: And if you're not very confident, you might go, oh,
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  Speaker 5: I might just get a pendant.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I see, a pendant.
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  Speaker 4: You're just going to get one nipple pierced.
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  Speaker 5: Or a belly button.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have to get both nipples pierced if you're
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  Speaker 1: getting them pierced? You could go one belly button.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, but it makes me feel a bit queasy.
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  Speaker 1: It makes me feel very– it would hurt so much.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk more about that. But one of
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  Speaker 1: the things we got to– so as– usually happens on
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  Speaker 1: our No Dribble events is that we used to go
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  Speaker 1: ask No Dribble a question and then we'd get the
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  Speaker 1: bucket of questions up and we'd go through that over
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  Speaker 1: the course of the evening.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yes.
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  Speaker 1: The last two events, we've completely forgotten to do that.
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  Speaker 1: So we get a bunch of questions and we bring
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  Speaker 1: them back here. Now, one of them that I thought
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  Speaker 1: we might be interested in exploring the business model of
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  Speaker 1: is Could we have a no dribble retreat in Bali
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  Speaker 1: with all of Gordie's tips? I don't know what we're
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  Speaker 1: retreating from because that sounds like an advance to rather
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  Speaker 1: than a retreat, doesn't it?
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  Speaker 4: But the short answer is yes.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: But the next one was.
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  Speaker 3: So hang on.
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  Speaker 5: The Pilates place that I go to in Balina, they
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  Speaker 5: have a Bali retreat. So I wonder if we can
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  Speaker 5: be like the balancing of the Pilates.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, did you say pies and lattes? Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, they could go and do all the Pilates and
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  Speaker 5: the stretching and the yoga and the meditation and we
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  Speaker 5: could balance them out by being loud and not stretchy
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  Speaker 5: and not exercising.
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  Speaker 1: And not look after ourselves properly. Yeah, okay. I like that.
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  Speaker 1: I was worried that you were going to suggest that
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  Speaker 1: we would be going on a Pilates retreat.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, God, no.
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  Speaker 1: Pilates, I like it. It's really hard. Also quite boring,
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  Speaker 1: I think.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, I love Pilates. It's the only time I get
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  Speaker 5: to turn my brain off, but sometimes I forget to
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  Speaker 5: turn my brain off and the Pilates instructor has to
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  Speaker 5: come and say, I said bend your knees, not your arms.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, okay, thanks.
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  Speaker 5: Good chats.
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  Speaker 1: It is hard though. You know, I saw something the
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  Speaker 1: other day. You know how as middle-aged women we're awake
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  Speaker 1: all bloody night all the time nowadays. There was something
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  Speaker 1: that it said, rather than trying to fight that, what
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  Speaker 1: you should do is just go, well, I don't often
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  Speaker 1: get an opportunity to just be alone with my thoughts
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  Speaker 1: and try to lean into it that way and try
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  Speaker 1: to get the resistance out of it. And ultimately, I
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  Speaker 1: think probably bore yourself to sleep is what the intention is.
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  Speaker 1: But I thought that was quite interesting. And it has
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  Speaker 1: sort of changed things a bit for me when I
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  Speaker 1: wake up in the middle of the night. Like I
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  Speaker 1: try not to solve any problems or anything, but I
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  Speaker 1: just try to think about Nice things, you know, good
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  Speaker 1: memories and the like, rather than try to go to sleep,
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  Speaker 1: go to sleep. What time is it now? That's another
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  Speaker 1: 15 minutes. You're going to be so tired tomorrow.
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  Speaker 4: I wonder if that does actually work or it would
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  Speaker 4: calm your mind. You're probably not going to sleep any faster.
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  Speaker 1: Well, but I think if you calm your mind, you
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  Speaker 1: will go to sleep faster, won't you?
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 1: This is like the Huberman show.
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  Speaker 4: What's it called?
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  Speaker 1: The Huberman Lab podcast where they actually get No, they
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  Speaker 1: get medical experts on to talk about things. But, again,
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  Speaker 1: it's only like the Huberman Lab or whatever it's called
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  Speaker 1: in the sense that it's a podcast and we've talked
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  Speaker 1: about sleep. We have no qualifications.
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  Speaker 4: No, we don't even expertise in the netball department, so
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  Speaker 4: let's not move on to medical stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I did something so stupid on Friday and I was
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  Speaker 1: looking to– so we have to have insurance for this podcast,
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  Speaker 1: I think.
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  Speaker 3: Do we?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we do.
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  Speaker 5: We're required– great is that so like in case someone
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  Speaker 5: sues us for defamation.
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  Speaker 1: Or something i believe so yeah so it covers us
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  Speaker 1: for that it's a um.
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  Speaker 3: What about if you and katherine like hurt someone.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah if if cat if if either of us get
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  Speaker 1: injured in here if i don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Do we have an hr department because the only people
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  Speaker 4: we defame are each.
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  Speaker 1: Other each other yeah so But because we're an iHeart podcast,
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  Speaker 1: we are required as part of that to have this insurance.
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  Speaker 1: And it's expensive. It's like three and a half grand
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  Speaker 1: a year. So last year. I put it on a
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  Speaker 1: finance deal with the insurance broker I use and we
• 7:39
  Speaker 1: paid it over 10 months fine. And then they're sending
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: it again way overdue. So don't say anything slanderous in
• 7:46
  Speaker 1: this particular episode because I need to fix that up today.
• 7:50
  Speaker 1: But I was looking at it again and I thought
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: that's fairly expensive, that finance. I bet I can find
• 7:55
  Speaker 1: a way of knocking this into monthly payments more cheaply.
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  Speaker 1: And I was looking at my credit card and they
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: have this thing, you know, I'm with ComBank, they have SurePay.
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  Speaker 1: So I could put it on the credit card and
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  Speaker 1: then you go, you take that off, you set up
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  Speaker 1: a payment plan of three, six or 12 months, and
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  Speaker 1: then there's a fee. And I looked at it and went, yep,
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  Speaker 1: that fee is smaller. But while I was looking through
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  Speaker 1: the app to try to remember what the hell this
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  Speaker 1: product was called and to look at the T's and C's,
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  Speaker 1: I was looking at the settings on my credit card.
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  Speaker 1: So I've got a home one, but also a work one.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like no cash advances, no international online purchases,
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  Speaker 1: no problem. And then there was one that's a gambling lock.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought, well, I don't gamble. But I thought, well,
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  Speaker 1: if I lose the card, it's probably good to have
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: the gambling lock on it to have all of these
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  Speaker 1: additional things. So I put the gambling lock on, then
• 8:42
  Speaker 1: rang up to make the payment for the insurance and
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason the product name has been confused by
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  Speaker 1: the app and so I couldn't make the payment and
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  Speaker 1: I had to ring them back and go, oh, yeah, sorry,
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  Speaker 1: my gambling lock won't let me make this payment.
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  Speaker 5: What?
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  Speaker 1: You turn it off, they won't let you immediately. There's
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  Speaker 1: a 48-hour cooling off period which makes perfect sense for
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  Speaker 1: a gambling lock, doesn't it? You can't have a gambling
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  Speaker 1: lock that someone could go, Yeah, but I'm at the
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  Speaker 1: ponies right now and I want to change my mind.
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  Speaker 1: So I have had to ring them back this morning
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  Speaker 1: to make the payments.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, my God. Whilst all this conversation was happening, all
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  Speaker 4: I was thinking of is do we get frequent flyer
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  Speaker 4: points with all these purchases? Do you get frequent flyer points?
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  Speaker 5: We, the dribble.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Is there frequent flyer points attached to all this expenditure?
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  Speaker 5: I think Carly gets it.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, the dribble.
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  Speaker 5: She deserves it because what do you and I do, Catherine,
• 9:33
  Speaker 5: to keep this podcast going?
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  Speaker 3: I think the answer is bugger all.
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  Speaker 4: Well, this is true, but I'm just thinking of our
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  Speaker 4: retreat in Bali.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 4: With the pies and the lattes.
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  Speaker 1: We're a little wee way away from Bali at the moment.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, can we go to Canberra?
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: We might be able to go and visit.
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  Speaker 4: Liz, you and I.
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  Speaker 5: Yay!
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  Speaker 1: But there won't be any first class or, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Liz, quick question.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: One came from the questions from the dribblers. So when
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  Speaker 1: we go to Channel 9, I don't know why I'm
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: asking you, both of you, you might know this. When
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  Speaker 1: we go to Channel 9 for the netball, if we
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  Speaker 1: watch the game on delay, does that count? Because obviously
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  Speaker 1: what we need is everybody making Channel 9 go, this
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: thing is raiding its socks off. We should have bought
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: it years ago. and then in five years' time that
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: they go pay whatever is required to keep this. But
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  Speaker 1: how do they track it? They used to have little
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: boxes on people's TVs, didn't they? Originally there was diaries
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: and then there were boxes, but I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: they assess the viewership now. Does anyone know?
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  Speaker 5: No, but I do know that they count whatever the
• 10:40
  Speaker 5: way is to assess who's watching what on free-to-air. anything
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  Speaker 5: that gets downloaded and watched on delay counts. So when
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  Speaker 5: they talk about, you know, this many hundreds of thousands
• 10:52
  Speaker 5: of people watch a netball game and X percent is
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  Speaker 5: watched live and X percent is watched on delay.
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  Speaker 3: And women tend to over-index on the delay because.
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  Speaker 5: Because they're busy.
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  Speaker 4: Busy people.
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  Speaker 5: Because we're busy, there's other things going on, there's other
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  Speaker 5: people watching other sport in the house at the same time.
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  Speaker 5: And then when they get to sit at night with
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  Speaker 5: a glass of wine, they go, right, now I'm going
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  Speaker 5: to watch the netball.
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  Speaker 4: So.
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  Speaker 5: It all sort of washes out in terms of being
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  Speaker 5: all part of the same lot, but then everything gets
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  Speaker 5: broken down into what gets live, what gets watched on delay,
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  Speaker 5: what gets watched on a device as opposed to a television.
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  Speaker 3: What gets watched like on streaming.
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  Speaker 5: So they know all of this data. I don't know
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  Speaker 5: how they get the actual free-to-air data.
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  Speaker 3: Component.
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  Speaker 5: My parents years ago had, when I was at channel 10,
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  Speaker 5: they had like, they, they, they bring a little box
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  Speaker 5: to your place and attach it to your television. And
• 11:39
  Speaker 5: then mum and dad had to, when they sat down
• 11:41
  Speaker 5: to turn on television, they had to like say how
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  Speaker 5: many people were in the room watching. And so whenever
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  Speaker 5: they watch netball, they just put it up to the maximum.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty?
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  Speaker 3: Twenty.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's what I was going to say. Even next
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  Speaker 4: year when it goes to nine, if you're going to
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  Speaker 4: netball all day, turn your telly on. Leave your telly
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  Speaker 4: on Channel 9 and go.
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  Speaker 1: And go to the game and then come home and
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  Speaker 1: watch it on delay. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Many, many, many times.
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  Speaker 1: Many, many, many times. And watch all four games. All
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  Speaker 1: four games every weekend.
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  Speaker 4: Good.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: That's very interesting. Thank you. And, in fact– Almost bordering
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  Speaker 1: on information.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, don't get too carried away.
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  Speaker 2: That was. Oh, God.
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: It was almost bordering on information. We better be careful.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we should have a little break and come
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  Speaker 1: back and talk about some knit balls.
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  Speaker 4: Knit balls.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so... By the time we're listening to this, the
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  Speaker 1: fourth game of the CONCUP has been run and done,
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: whatever the outcome is there. We record on a Monday,
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: so we have no idea what that is at this stage.
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  Speaker 1: But what we do know is that that's in Melbourne.
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  Speaker 1: And then two nights later, tonight, is Netball's Night of Nights,
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  Speaker 1: the Netball Australia. What's the actual event called?
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  Speaker 2: Awards?
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  Speaker 1: Awards night, is it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Network Australia Awards night.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And this is great because I remember there was many
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  Speaker 4: years similar to how they've changed the selection and how
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  Speaker 4: they'd do it, they'd ring you or they'd stick it
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  Speaker 4: under the door or they'd do it in the room
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  Speaker 4: or whatever. We often had these nights in the midst
• 13:19
  Speaker 4: of training camps because everybody was here.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So you couldn't really drink. You were spread out on
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  Speaker 4: different tables and it wasn't overly fun for the athletes,
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  Speaker 4: but this will be a real chance for them just
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  Speaker 4: to go, we're done. The season has done. It's been
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  Speaker 4: a bloody long year. They had a series in January.
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  Speaker 4: They've had obviously a Commonwealth Games. They've just finished this series.
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  Speaker 4: And they get to stay in Melbourne. They get to
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  Speaker 4: get dolled up, go and have a great night and
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  Speaker 4: actually celebrate with each other without any commitments whatsoever. or
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  Speaker 4: trainings or anything they've got to think about. So I'm
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  Speaker 4: excited for them. I really am.
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  Speaker 1: Remember that Swifts dinner, which was a great night. The
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: three of us were all there, you two with various roles.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: I was hosting a very fun table of dribblers, the
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: 30th anniversary dinner, and the current Swifts team came in
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: and said, They had a dinner, but they all had
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: a game, was it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the next day.
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: I think they had a game either the next day
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: or the day after. Paige stayed because Paige was still
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: on maternity leave at that stage. But they all came
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: in in their polo, so it looked like they could
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: do an awesome deal on some 4x4 tyres or something. But,
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: you know, they weren't able to really enjoy it because
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: they were so focused on playing. Yeah. I think I
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: saw maybe Katrina Rore have a little cheeky glass of wine,
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: but everyone else was just on performance juice, which, you know,
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: some of us call rosé performance juice. But, yes, so
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: I'm excited. And it's sort of I can't– they're all
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: so beautiful. And I know it doesn't matter. They're not
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: there to be beautiful. There is much more to all
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: of us than what we look like. But I love
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: seeing them get dressed up.
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: I love seeing all the frocks and stuff. What are
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: the awards, though? So we've got the Super Netball Player
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: of the Year. We have the Australian Diamonds Player of
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: the Year. Obviously the Liz Ellis Diamond is a combination
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: of who was best domestically and internationally. What else is there?
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: Coach of the Year.
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: Coach of the Year. Is there an umpire of the year?
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: The umpire of the year.
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: Is there a rookie still?
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: Oh, I think there might be a rookie of the year.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Well, that's Jessie Greenfield, isn't it?
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, has to be.
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: Is she still a rookie though?
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: Well– This was the first year of a Super.
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: Netball contract, wasn't it? Get out of town. Yeah. Well,
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: if she doesn't win that, something's not right.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: The Dr.
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: Eve Fessel First Nations Black Swan Award is also awarded,
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: which is fantastic. And it's a beautiful, it's probably the
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: nicest award of the night other than the actual diamond.
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: It's a beautiful big award.
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: Lots to celebrate.
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: I really should know and I will be given a
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: run sheet between now and then.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: There's been a bit on.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: And we didn't tell Liz what we wanted to talk
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: about today. When she sat down, we just started talking
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's great. That's how we get the best.
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: We like to put it on the spot and see
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: what she's good at.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: Nothing.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: No, it's exciting though.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: So Jamie Lee Price won the Liz Ellis Diamond last year.
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: And I reckon could have cleaned it up had she
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: not missed. She's missed a few tests now with this calf.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: Now that might... not help the case. Otherwise, I reckon
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: she would have tied.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: It up easily.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Certainly hasn't helped the Constellation Cup case.
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: No.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: They've had a rough time, the Diamonds, haven't they?
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: They have. They have. But, you know, someone like Maloney. Oh,
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: Maloney's a good pick.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: And I think that, well, see, JLP might still be
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: in the hunt. And full disclosure, I've got no idea.
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: I don't get any say in the award.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: I don't vote. People, like, message me as if I vote.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I don't know. Like, I'm not qualified
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: to vote.
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: I used to hate giving out the 3-2-1s at the
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: end of games when i was commentating because i always
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: used to have to justify myself when i picked the
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: goalkeeper but um but i reckon georgie horges and jesse
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: grenvold might have taken votes off everybody else who might
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: have been level pegging with jlp so jlp might have
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: done enough through to like match two of the con
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: cup and then the last two matches yeah right and
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: then the last three matches, maybe it's like other players
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: who weren't featuring early in the year have done enough.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: So who knows?
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: And then there is some waiting between your Diamonds matches
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: and Super Netball as well.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: Well, question around that. I don't know if you know
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: the answer to this, but does the Super Netball include finals?
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: Because it would be unfair, obviously, if there's more games
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: for people to get points, or is it fair?
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Don't know.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Hmm. That would be a technical question that I don't
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: really know.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: It's a fascinating chat on No Dribble where we know enough.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: And also, remember, we talked about this the other day.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Liz Ellis does not know anything about who might win
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: the award because she's got it wrong. She'll have the goss.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Listen, you know what?
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: Here's a scoop for No Dribble.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you on Saturday morning.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: You're not going to show up for work here until
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Wednesday of next week.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: That's true.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, so it could be Jamie Lee Price. We've got
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: a Kate Maloney nomination. I think Georgie Horges is a
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: damn fine tip.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Far out.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Gosh, she's amazing, isn't she?
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: She's so good.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: So young.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: So humble.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: But, yeah, it's hard to pick. So there is a
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Super Netball Player of the Year. Yep. And that person
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: may or may not get the Liz Ellis diamond.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And then they're– Has anyone done a clean sweep?
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: I'm sure they have.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Who's had it twice? Courtney Bruce. Has Liz Watson had
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: it twice?
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: Courtney Bruce has had it twice.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Lizzie's had it twice.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Courtney's had it twice.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: See, Courtney would have to be in the running.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: What was the first year of it, Liz?
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: A while ago.
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: I don't know. Maybe 2008 or 2009 maybe.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: All right, I feel like we've probably reached the natural
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: end of this conversation other than to say Liz Ellis
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: probably won't wear an amber dress, but who knows. We
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: don't know who will be getting any of the awards,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: but there will be awards and that will be great.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Catherine will be inducted into the Hall of Fame and
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: will be participating in a lengthy Q & A while
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: her mother and I play drinking games. We might pick
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: a game where... Every time you say a particular word,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: we have to scull.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Oh, tell me what it is and I'll say it.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Okay. Oh, that would be fun.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: Do you really want Francie laid out?
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: No, you don't.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: No.
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: You think truth bombs get dropped at no dribble events
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: by other people?
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: Imagine if your mother.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: Francie's a Cadbury drinker at the best of times. Class
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: and a half.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: She's done.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll try not to drop too many F-bombs in
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: front of her. I feel like our first meeting was
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: at your 50th and in my speech it was peppered
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: with spicy language.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: The holy fuck I'm 50 sign at the door. Yeah.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: You set the tone. So to be fair, I was
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: just following what was already set up in the room.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: True.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: But Catherine.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Yes. The AIS has made some changes and your heart
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: is a little bit sad.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: I can't believe we haven't spoken about this yet, but
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: the Aussie Diamonds, when they were in camp in Canberra
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: before they went on tour for the Constellation Couples, posting photos,
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: old resis and all of her secrets, bulldozed to the ground.
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: I did see photos of that. I think it was time, but.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God, if those walls could have spoken before
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: that happened.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: Well, if those walls could talk, we would not have careers.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: Like if there was social media at that time, we
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: would not have careers.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: So, yeah. Demonstrating.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: Do you know what they're doing there?
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: No idea, actually.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: Wow. I think they might be building. Well, if I
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: had to guess, I think I heard something. about like
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: a new a new resi is being built so.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: They built a new resi sport it's not being knocked
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: down for residential.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: Oh no no i wouldn't imagine no no so the
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: like they redid the resis maybe like 15 years ago
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: and obviously buildings become obsolete so i think they might
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: be building like another resis um there but oh my
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: god do you have a favorite story catherine that you
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: can tell.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: That's that's worthy of sharing um oh no i mean
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: a few more than a few stories from the institute
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: but not ones i could share.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe they're for live events rather.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Than we'll keep those for some live events do you
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: know one story elizabeth sorry.
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: Well i yeah i do and it's not particularly naughty
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: but it's just anyway uh I went away– so I
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: lived on the bottom floor.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So it was like– it's three or four storeys,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: wasn't it?
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: It was all sort of split levelly. And I lived
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: on the bottom floor in my second year. And I
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: went away and I forgot to turn my alarm clock
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: off and it was set for really early because you
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: used to have to get up. And I lived above
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: Jane Fleming at the time.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: And she lived in like an apartment because the older
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: athletes got actual proper apartments.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: Like where the house parents used to live.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's down below me.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: And I went away for like three weeks or something and–
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: And by that point someone had broken into my room
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: but it happened for about a week and it woke
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: her and her partner up at the time and then
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: someone got the spare key and got in and turned
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: it off. And then years later I met her and
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: we were talking about resis and where we lived and
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: I said something and she said, was that you? Oh.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: So the tick that she's got all these years later
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: was your fault.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: It was my fault.
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: Now, fortunately, we've patched it up and we're very close now.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, my God.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: Because she's the chair of Athletics Australia now.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: I feel stupid.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: But how long were you there for? So you're talking
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: about you're in your second year there.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: I was there for two years.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: I was there for one. My liver couldn't handle any
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: more than that.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: And is it sort of like an academic year? Is
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: it that many types of weeks of.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: What, like? I don't know what I thought, but I'm interested. No, like, okay,
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: so when we were there, you were there really from
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: like the end of January through to the start of December.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: And you'd go home.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: On a train like Hogwarts?
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: No, we'd go on a bus.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: So like we would catch the bus to Sydney occasionally,
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: but not often because all the fun happened on the weekends.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: But we played state league when we were there. So
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: we would get the bus to Sydney every Wednesday to
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: play in state league as a team and then get
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: the bus back again after we went to Sizzler. That
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: was the best bit.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: That's right, Sizzler.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: The ALS bus would pull into Sizzler, load up, get
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: back on.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: And off you go. So some of us, like I
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: started my degree there, so I used to, and it
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: was great because.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: I would have flunked the first year, but we had.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: House parents who not me.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: So it's affiliated with a university?
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: No, it's not. So there's, I mean, I think there
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: might be some affiliation now with the University of Canberra,
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: but I went to ANU and like obviously the two
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: unis there. So I started my uni degree. Some girls
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: worked and some girls studied, I think, You know, there
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: was one girl in our year who was still at school.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: So she went to Belconnen High who were affiliated with
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: the AIS. So you go there for the full year
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: and then you break like when you have nationals. We'd
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: all go to our home states and go and play nationals.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: But you'd spend the whole year. And so for me,
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: I had finished school, done my HSC. I was 18
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: and I was like, yay. So the first year I.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Did spend partying.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: But the great thing, I'm really grateful that I stayed
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: the second year because that's when I learnt how to
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: knuckle down and actually do the work.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: And by the end of my second year I.
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: Was in the Diamond Squad because I'd actually done the work.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: as opposed to my first year where I just went, yeah, hey, hey,
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: I'm 18 living with.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: Living alive. With the athletes, yeah.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: But you weren't there at the same time?
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: No, no.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: But I was the same. I went my first year
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: out of school and it was exactly the same thing.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: It was like, is this place for real?
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: What do you mean?
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: So who were you there with, Kath? Give me some–
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: who were your gang?
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. No one my year went on to play
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: for Australia, actually.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Well, one person did.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: Oh, God, I'm just trying to think. No, no one did.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: And Liz, so Jane Fleming, but obviously she's not a netballer.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Who were your netball peers?
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Any of them?
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: I'm just thinking who went on to play for the Diamonds.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: Liz Boniello did, Liz Tammer. So she was there with me.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Oh, look.
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: One of my best friends is coming to stay at
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: my house next week, Erin Colnade.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: She played for the Swifts. She doesn't call her Betty though.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: No, no.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: No, she does not call me Betty.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: She's not in the Betty envelope.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: So she was there. Who else was there? Oh, Raylene
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: Fanning was there who is now Raylene. Sorry, Raylene Mullaney
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: was there and she's now Raylene Fanning and her daughter
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: Matilda is.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: A training partner for the Sirens.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Very cool.
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: So we do laugh that we feel like the Australian
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: government did set up a bit of a breeding program
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: to get all these athletes together. So Raylene married a
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: water polo player and now their kids are good athletes.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: People like Tracy Bruce who played or Tracy Foran she
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: was then, Tracy Bruce, she married a swimmer and she
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: went on to play for, like she played for Queensland
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: and she now works up there.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: I'm just trying to remember.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: Ingrid, she was Ingrid Dick then. She's now Ingrid Dick.
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: I can't remember her married name. She is like the
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: general manager for Fever. So lots of women.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: Nat Avelino was there who played for Australia. There's another
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: one who played for Australia. Sorry, Av, I missed you. So, yeah,
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: there was like we had a really fun bunch of
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: women and lots of whom still sort of are in
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: or around the sport now.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, how cool.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't know that.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: That sounds amazing.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, it was so good.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Like halls of residence but just for like really fit,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: good-looking people.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Well, you know what's funny?
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: Catherine and I lost over all the distraction and all
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: the other stuff. But one of the things that Gay Teed,
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: who was our coach, the first thing she said to
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: us was the very first day we had a meeting
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: and she said, ladies, welcome to the Australian Institute of Sport.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: And we thought she was going to tell us something
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: really deep and meaningful about netball and she said, Welcome
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: to the Australian Institute of Sport. It's a smorgasbord of
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: men down here. Please don't make pigs of yourselves.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: Not wrong, Gay T, not wrong.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: We're going to run out of time, so we need
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: to take a little break and then come back and
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about something really cool that I
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: saw online this week. So I saw something.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: I need to tell a funny story too, but you go.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Do you?
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah. It's not funny. It's really sad, but go.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: We'll wrap up with that, but I want to talk
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: about something that I saw and it was actually, I
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: saw it on Georgie Trickett's social media. So Georgie Trickett
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: and Libby Trickett have the Sportish podcast, which you should
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: listen to, but it's this campaign called While I Bled
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: and it is, and in fact I saw that I
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: think it's Kira Austin and Amy Parmenter had done an
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: ad for it. I saw that. Australian charity The COVID
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Project and advertising agency Act 3 have cooked up a
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: campaign called While I Bled, a social media campaign with
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  Speaker 1: one very simple goal, to break down the barriers caused
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  Speaker 1: by periods that keep girls out of sport in Australia
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  Speaker 1: and all over the globe. The campaign is supported by
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  Speaker 1: amazing women in sport like Libby Trickett, Chloe Dalton, Keira Austin,
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  Speaker 1: Amy Parmenter, Georgie Trickett, Megan Hustwaite, Hanny Watson and more,
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  Speaker 1: who are loudly telling the truth about sporting moments that
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  Speaker 1: happened to them while they were on their period. A game,
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  Speaker 1: a race, a trial, a Tuesday night training session, all
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  Speaker 1: the stuff we've quietly navigated forever and never said out loud.
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  Speaker 1: A Federation University study found 62.8% of girls aged 10
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  Speaker 1: to 16 have missed training because of their period. 91.5%
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  Speaker 1: worry about leaking through their uniform and nearly one in
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  Speaker 1: five have considered quitting sport altogether. We can shift that,
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  Speaker 1: but not while everyone is whispering about it. So all
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  Speaker 1: of these amazing women are coming out and talking about
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  Speaker 1: sporting moments that had to, and it's not all elite
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  Speaker 1: sporting moments or the like. It's actually about things that
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  Speaker 1: they did while they were having their period. And I
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  Speaker 1: think it's a really interesting campaign and a great, very
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  Speaker 1: worthwhile thing. It's crazy that over 50% of the population
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  Speaker 1: have periods, but we barely talk about it.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, it still made me cringe hearing this.
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  Speaker 5: It's interesting, isn't it?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, because it's our generation.
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  Speaker 1: Because remember when we were teenagers and I was there
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  Speaker 1: before you, but like the tampon commercials, and it's still
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  Speaker 1: very rare for a tampon commercial to talk about blood.
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  Speaker 1: Tampon commercials, when I was growing up, it was all
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  Speaker 1: about frolicking on the beach because, you know, the tampons
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  Speaker 1: could free you from the tyranny of your period and
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  Speaker 1: get out there. But we have been conditioned not to
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  Speaker 1: talk about it and I think that these sorts of
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  Speaker 1: campaigns will help the younger generations potentially talk more about it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's funny, isn't it? When I did Celebrity...
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  Speaker 5: My charity was Share the Dignity, and they basically distribute
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: period products to people who need them. And they also
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: do things like It's in the Bag, which I think
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  Speaker 5: is this month.
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  Speaker 1: Oprah's just got one.
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  Speaker 5: I just sent one, yeah, which is really exciting. So
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  Speaker 5: if you're in your shops, buy a bag and take
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: it to your local Bunnings and donate it there. So
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  Speaker 5: these bags are given to women who are fleeing domestic
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  Speaker 5: violence or who are fleeing a number of other things.
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  Speaker 5: But So they're really valuable and you write a little
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  Speaker 5: note and I do it with my daughter and it's
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  Speaker 5: just such a meaningful thing for us to do and
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  Speaker 5: go and give our bags. But when I did it,
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: Michelle Courtney, who's the CEO of it, she was so
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  Speaker 5: happy because she could never get on like morning TV
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: because they're like, oh, we can't talk about periods on
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: morning TV. We can't talk about periods on primetime. So
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: she was so pleased that menstruating was being talked about
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  Speaker 5: on primetime, which is so amazing, isn't it? Like it's
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  Speaker 5: like happens to half of us. We should be talking
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  Speaker 5: about it. So I love the while I bled. I
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  Speaker 5: was trying to think about what I'd say, but I
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: got my period so.
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  Speaker 3: Long ago that I can't remember anything that I did
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  Speaker 3: while having my periods.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. You were being a superstar whilst it was happening,
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  Speaker 4: that's for sure. One thing to remember. But I feel
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  Speaker 4: like this generation is far more relaxed about it anyway.
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  Speaker 4: The way my niece talks about it, it's to the
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: point you're like, okay, stop. We actually don't need to
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: know the specifics like that. So it is great to
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: see that. But it's funny how when you mentioned it,
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: when I saw those ads, I still did cringe.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: As a grown-up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is interesting. So Ben Elton, who is a
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: British comedian and writer, although he's Australian now, he's lived
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  Speaker 1: in Perth for so long that I think we can
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  Speaker 1: claim him as our own, but he used to have
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: a great stand-up bit about– you know, if men got periods,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: we would just be talking about it so often. You know,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I was strolling out to bat and I got my
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: period and of course my whites were ruined. And he's
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: so right that this is, I don't know why we've
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: not talked about this for so long, but I love
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: that this campaign is about sort of, you know, trying
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  Speaker 1: to break down the stigma and make girls feel more
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  Speaker 1: comfortable talking about it. I've seen a great campaign, ad
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  Speaker 1: campaign that came out of India recently about a young
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  Speaker 1: boy having to run to the shops to get some
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  Speaker 1: sanitary pads for his mum and his peers laughing about
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  Speaker 1: it and then him going, well, why would you laugh
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  Speaker 1: about that? I'm just helping my mum. And then they
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: all went, yeah, I don't know why I'm laughing about that.
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  Speaker 1: So it's great that we're getting this increased conversation and
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  Speaker 1: good work, Gina, and thank you so much for sending
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  Speaker 1: us that. And so if you see some While I
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  Speaker 1: Bled stuff on social media, Share it. Let's amplify this
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  Speaker 1: campaign for them.
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  Speaker 4: Well said.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well said.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: So what's your funny story?
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: Well, it's a big departure, so I'm not sure if
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: it's appropriate now, but it also happened in the bathroom.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: And was it in your last week of work with Fox?
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: Oh, stop. Yeah, so it's been a good fun last week. But, Liz,
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: I was telling Carol, and I can't believe we forgot
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: to mention it last week, but... um so you know
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: when you're in studio you have a lapel mic on
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: so you don't you don't have a handheld mic yes
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: so when you have a handheld mic you put that
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: down no one can hear you right um if you've
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: got a lapel mic anything you do they can hear
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  Speaker 4: i forgot that so we were just about to go
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  Speaker 4: to air i had to go to the bathroom in
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: the bathroom oh it's a little bit gassy so a
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: little something something snuck out And then I realised that
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: I had it on and was just like, oh, fuck.
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: Can you imagine being the sound guy?
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: I know. I went back in and obviously I couldn't.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: So I sat back down at the panel with Kim
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: and it was with Paige. And I couldn't say anything
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: because then they could actually hear me talking about it.
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  Speaker 4: So I had to write it down and show Kim
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: and she was.
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  Speaker 1: Crying, laughing.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: Anyway, the following game we were in there and one
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: of the audio women that I know who's top, she
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: was on duty and I told her the story and
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: she goes, I'm pretty sure you can't hear in the bathroom.
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  Speaker 4: She goes, let me check. She ran in there. She
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: put a mic pack in there and comes back out.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: And then she comes to see me. She goes, you
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: can hear. Oh, no, I died. So I've left Fox
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: coincidentally with my tail between my legs. Oh, no.
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: Oh, those stories.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: Don't you love it?
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  Speaker 1: Catherine, we're all human beings.
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  Speaker 3: All mics are live, even in the toilet.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: All mics are live.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: Which is good to remember if you remember you're wearing one.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's so funny.
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  Speaker 5: Well done. Well done, Coxie.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Mic drop moment.
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: Well, we should.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: We should let these microphones have a little rest for
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: a week or so. That's all we've got time for. But, yeah,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: by the time when we come back next week, I
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: don't know whether Catherine will join us. She'll be too fancy.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: She'll be such a Hall of Famer. She might need
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: to go to the United States or something to celebrate.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: You're here next week, aren't you?
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  Speaker 4: I'm here next week, yeah. Looking forward to.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Hearing all about Vegas. But, anyway, thanks for joining us.
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  Speaker 1: My name's Carolyn Swindell.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Kath Cox and that's Betty. Thanks, guys.
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: See you, Kathy.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: So Liz, we'll ask her to tell us what it
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: really sounded like, but what do you reckon Catherine's fart
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: would sound like?
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: I know what Catherine's fart would sound like.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: And you don't need a microphone for that.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: Ah, no. Enough of them. So is it a.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: No, it's far more.
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: But it's still, I don't know what to say with
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: that sounding really crass. It's not like big and floppy. Like,
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: you know, sometimes people fart and you feel like you're
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: hearing the reverberation.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, dear.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Should we call time on this? I could probably ring
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: the Fox audio.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Department and get them to cut it out for us. Fantastic.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, dear.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.