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Ep. 101 | Asking the Pathfinder Spirit Board YOUR & The Horrifying Death Of James Prout · Weeknight Mysteries Podcast

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  Speaker 1: I did a bit of a kick out of and
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  Speaker 1: read your board to one of my favorite things so
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  Speaker 1: I actually don't have many I think I've got one
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  Speaker 1: that somebody sent me once and then I saw this
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  Speaker 1: for a very cheap actually. I was quite lucky to
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  Speaker 1: get it. So yeah. The Pathfinder Psychic Talking Board Find
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  Speaker 1: your path to love career and success with the Pathfinder
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  Speaker 1: Psychic Talking Board Prepare yourself with the Pathfinder Shaman Purification
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  Speaker 1: Ritual Touch your fingertips to the Pathfinder's magical message indicator
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  Speaker 1: as the Pathfinder anything you would like to know about
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  Speaker 1: you will perceive a slight tingling or magnetic sensation pulling
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  Speaker 1: the indicator around a board to rest or hover over
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  Speaker 1: one or more of the illustrated symbols on the wheel
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  Speaker 1: of power. This is sold as not so so much
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  Speaker 1: a way of contacting dead but more of a a
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  Speaker 1: way of tuning into your in itself your subconscious. I
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  Speaker 1: think this one is from like 2004. I think I
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  Speaker 1: want to say it so yeah, you get the Pathfinder
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  Speaker 1: talking board or you get it you get a guidebook
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  Speaker 1: in there I first released in 1989 this version was
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  Speaker 1: published in 2004 and the book is it's not just
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  Speaker 1: letters on this board. It's symbols and animals and all
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  Speaker 1: sorts of things and it's about finding your own own way.
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  Speaker 1: It's all very heavily influenced. I think their American Indian
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  Speaker 1: folklore and teaching it goes on a lot about indigenous
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  Speaker 1: people but it doesn't say which indigenous people so I'm
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  Speaker 1: guessing it's the American indigenous people yeah, so it's it's
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  Speaker 1: all write the book like it gives you the meanings
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  Speaker 1: of the things but honestly, I think it's more it's
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  Speaker 1: probably better to find your own way interpreter old meanings
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  Speaker 1: from the from the symbols kind of like the tarot
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  Speaker 1: I think with that you know it's good to get
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  Speaker 1: a good idea with a tarot what the different cars mean.
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  Speaker 1: but there's a certain point where you have to sort
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  Speaker 1: of ensure your own meanings from these things and there's
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  Speaker 1: the board it opens out quite a bit and open
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  Speaker 1: that up in a minute. I might have to move
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  Speaker 1: the camera and also comes with planned shit here the
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  Speaker 1: pathfinder so you know, I haven't actually got this out
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  Speaker 1: of the pack yet. It's uh, it's just strange looking
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  Speaker 1: plastic thing quite a nice clear plan chat so I'm
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  Speaker 1: about setting this up and I'll talk about the board
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  Speaker 1: briefly okay. So what we've got here is the the
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  Speaker 1: board itself in the middle here is a mud at
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  Speaker 1: earth the four compass directions here and the four seasons
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  Speaker 1: and then we've got various rings so we've got like
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  Speaker 1: single words around the outside which is a nice touch
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  Speaker 1: and then it goes into plants and symbols like stars
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  Speaker 1: canoe with baskets the letters themselves and then animals and
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  Speaker 1: then gemstones and then numbers. So in these and it
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  Speaker 1: does like these really beautiful then collage artworks and then
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  Speaker 1: you can see them a lot of them like here
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  Speaker 1: you can see she makes them with like material and
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  Speaker 1: stuff and pretty much the only place where these are
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  Speaker 1: present is on the edges with these like goddesses and
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the board can't doesn't look as good
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  Speaker 1: in comparison I don't like the font it looks very
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  Speaker 1: sort of late 90s early noughties which I guess that's
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  Speaker 1: what it was made. So that kind of makes sense
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  Speaker 1: like the font looks a bit I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what it is. I don't like the design
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  Speaker 1: of it as much as as this bit. I kind
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  Speaker 1: of wish they just designed an entire board with this
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  Speaker 1: sort of really nice collage art type of design. That's
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  Speaker 1: just my personal taste another thing is the way the
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  Speaker 1: board folds up it's quite hard to get it to
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  Speaker 1: go flat. So I'm 100% sure how if we see
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  Speaker 1: how the board folds does like a hinge here. So
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  Speaker 1: the hinge makes a sort of little valley there which
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  Speaker 1: might be difficult for the planche pen move over my
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  Speaker 1: little quicker review of the design as a board. So
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  Speaker 1: I think you start off with the planche pen in
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  Speaker 1: the middle and most most like wedge board tech days
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  Speaker 1: if you need two people but the picture on the
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  Speaker 1: board is one person using it or one hand and
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  Speaker 1: it says throughout the book that you can just use
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  Speaker 1: it as one but you know one person can use
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  Speaker 1: it and there's very specific instructions as well and there's
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  Speaker 1: a little ritual that you have to do and then
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  Speaker 1: become aware of the higher power in the universe that is.
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  Speaker 1: Called by many names allow yourself to feel the presence
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  Speaker 1: of that power within you right? I can feel that.
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  Speaker 1: I take three slow comfortable deep breaths in through your
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  Speaker 1: nose and let each one slowly out through your mouth
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  Speaker 1: and then there's a chance that you've got to go
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  Speaker 1: here it says repeat the following as you breathe slowly
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  Speaker 1: and even evenly all great spirit creator of the universe
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  Speaker 1: and all things. I feel your love and protection guide
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  Speaker 1: me on the path of to wake me and know
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  Speaker 1: my situation well because of your struggles. I am alive.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for your sacrifice it's texting me and surrounding
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  Speaker 1: me with your pure love and light all right. That's
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  Speaker 1: that was a real mouthful I can't imagine someone using
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  Speaker 1: this regularly and doing that every single time they want
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  Speaker 1: to use it right, so I don't really know what
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  Speaker 1: to ask the board but I did ask my Instagram
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  Speaker 1: followers to give me suggestions. So I picked the best
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  Speaker 1: ones all the people who posted shitty memes you wasted
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  Speaker 1: your time. I'm not going to ask the other board
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  Speaker 1: if pierced or in the balls I'll put a link
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  Speaker 1: to my Instagram down below come following me on Instagram
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  Speaker 1: I post pictures of my drawings and random stuff like
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  Speaker 1: this so people can get involved with things so yeah.
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  Speaker 1: This is a little, uh, little session. We're gonna ask
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  Speaker 1: the questions that the Instagram followers wanted to know so
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  Speaker 1: see you all in hexes. Ask about end of days
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  Speaker 1: or something vague, um, so I'm gonna say how will
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  Speaker 1: the world end, um, okay. Let's try a rephrase and
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  Speaker 1: mug and much out of this all spirit board. What
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  Speaker 1: will the end of days look like? Can some move
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  Speaker 1: my hair, okay? What's that the other dove, um, so
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  Speaker 1: we're getting it kind of kind of passed over the
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  Speaker 1: red though gone it red dove. Could it be some
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  Speaker 1: kind of but avian born virus? Let's see what the
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  Speaker 1: book says about the dove dove the most gentle creatures
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  Speaker 1: it represents courtship love gentleness a lance and harmony you
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  Speaker 1: can make your own interpretation of that and so i
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  Speaker 1: don't know the board the board speaks i don't i
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  Speaker 1: don't i don't question it actually bark shus says ask
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  Speaker 1: if it will tell your future okay okay pathfinder board
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  Speaker 1: what does my future hold mel maybe l maybe okay
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  Speaker 1: l maybe what could that mean okay spring l maybe
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  Speaker 1: spring what could happen in spring somebody might happen in
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  Speaker 1: spring so they would let it L but I can't
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  Speaker 1: think of anything because it L who knows but that's
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  Speaker 1: what does that's what the board says and yeah, as
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  Speaker 1: it was moving along here, they there reaching the board
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't do well over the over the ridges here
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  Speaker 1: might interfere with the spiritually middle snake studios asks is
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  Speaker 1: there a god seek a 99 asks which god is
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  Speaker 1: real so I guess I could incorporate in both into
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  Speaker 1: one question I find the board is there a god
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  Speaker 1: and if so which one is the correct god horse yeah, let's.
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  Speaker 1: Have a look what the book says about horse name
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  Speaker 1: that and give us a bit more the horse is
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  Speaker 1: always happy to learn your tricks horse is willing to
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  Speaker 1: help any human being who's kind and gentle when you
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  Speaker 1: travel don't schedule yourself with all the ideas or any
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  Speaker 1: kinds of rigid thinking be open to what you find okay.
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  Speaker 1: So it says don't settle yourself with any kind of
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  Speaker 1: rigid thinking so maybe it's telling us not to focus
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  Speaker 1: on one particular deity as being the the one true
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  Speaker 1: deity maybe maybe that's the answer see. Base says what
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  Speaker 1: is it like in the transcendental realm well Let's find
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  Speaker 1: out Pathfinder board and great spirits what is it like
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  Speaker 1: in the transcendental realm please tell us okay, it's going
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  Speaker 1: to spring spring spring is significant of new life new
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  Speaker 1: growth new ideas rebirth maybe maybe that means there's reincarnation
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  Speaker 1: who knows I'm giving my eyes closed as the thing
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  Speaker 1: moves so much of it because okay. And rose quartz
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  Speaker 1: unlike the hard edged pointed crystals of clear quartz the
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  Speaker 1: lovely rose quartz is found in. great things running through
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  Speaker 1: mother earth like a life's blood on the pathfinder it's
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  Speaker 1: apparently means that compassion and generosity will be shown self-fulfillment
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  Speaker 1: and in a piece require you to love and nurture
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  Speaker 1: yourself and those you care about work on how to
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  Speaker 1: give love as well as how to receive it i
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  Speaker 1: wonder see how i would interpret that is that it's
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  Speaker 1: a ring we reincarnate and the finds true transcendental happiness
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  Speaker 1: We've got to find our own heaven here on earth
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  Speaker 1: through compassion and kindness and love maybe maybe that's the
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  Speaker 1: answer that's how I interpret it you see you've got
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  Speaker 1: to find your own interpretations of these things so taught
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  Speaker 1: us not just says is my house haunted I find
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  Speaker 1: the board great spirits is my house currently haunted oh
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  Speaker 1: rabbit so I see rabbit as hiding in holes timid
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  Speaker 1: rabbits appear and symbolizes that it's not time to directly
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  Speaker 1: confront obstacles in your path maybe it's time I mean
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  Speaker 1: that's enough to go there I don't know who knows
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  Speaker 1: rabbit take that as your own interpretation okay. Hen took
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  Speaker 1: with is an important question who killed Epstein Pathfinder board
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  Speaker 1: and spirits please tell us who killed Jeffrey Epstein symbol
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  Speaker 1: I think is a shield and I have to look
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  Speaker 1: that up shield ah oh teach turtle so I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what that symbol means but here and then when
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  Speaker 1: I R R in the words teach and then turtle
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  Speaker 1: or teach turtle I don't know what does that symbol
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  Speaker 1: mean because that's the. First thing it went to the
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  Speaker 1: shield we must guard against letting oh god wait there
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  Speaker 1: that means yeah. that's that's and got a guard a
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  Speaker 1: symbol of a shield a guard and what about the
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  Speaker 1: turtle with its hard shell maybe that's the same thing
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  Speaker 1: i don't know turtle a turtle goes into its shell
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  Speaker 1: doesn't it to hide itself so maybe here's my interpretation
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  Speaker 1: i don't know the art and the beach mean what
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  Speaker 1: a shield a guard one of the prison guards or
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  Speaker 1: maybe the turtle shown us that there was something behind
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  Speaker 1: you know something took the way hiding behind of the
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  Speaker 1: guards giving the orders they like you my interpretations of
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  Speaker 1: the answers but i don't know what art and beach
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  Speaker 1: I mean I know it was teach not beach art
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  Speaker 1: and teach guard or teach turtle maybe I was an
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  Speaker 1: initial of somebody teach might have been somebody who was
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  Speaker 1: a teacher who knows um Mr. Horror says um how
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  Speaker 1: many spirits are with me okay I find a board
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  Speaker 1: and the spirits please tell me how many spirits are
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  Speaker 1: present right now. It stuck over the word and mollycate
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  Speaker 1: it sort of half over mollycate half over the buffalo
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  Speaker 1: it's off again it's off maybe it just stuck because
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  Speaker 1: I think because the age of the board it might
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  Speaker 1: just be sticking it's going around to the circle the
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  Speaker 1: owl okay I don't know conering it kind of stopped
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  Speaker 1: over this number zero so take that what you will
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  Speaker 1: that was what that was the message of the board
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  Speaker 1: though um yeah. I'll need that to do it in
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  Speaker 1: turrets I was looking for a number really but it
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  Speaker 1: seemed to give. Me a whole bunch of things mollycate
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  Speaker 1: owl conering zero okay. Well I'll ask Hickson966 question its
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  Speaker 1: meaning of life with its deep symbolism here. I think
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  Speaker 1: we might get an answer a lot of the questions
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  Speaker 1: are very specific I don't know how good the answers
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  Speaker 1: will be but these sort of grand slightly vague questions
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  Speaker 1: I think you might get better results with so pathfinder
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  Speaker 1: board and the spirits what is the meaning of life
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  Speaker 1: please tell us w okay to be honest I felt
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  Speaker 1: like it was just moving around all over. The place
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  Speaker 1: not really giving a clear answer I get the few
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  Speaker 1: of boredom messing with me i don't know why i
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  Speaker 1: just get the feeling i feel like it's just it
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  Speaker 1: was moving around a lot of places if to say
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  Speaker 1: what do you want me to tell you there's nothing
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  Speaker 1: there's no meaning find your own meaning me it was
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  Speaker 1: saying i don't know so yeah i think thanks everyone
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  Speaker 1: who asked questions i couldn't get around to everyone's questions
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  Speaker 1: i asked the ones that i liked the best and
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  Speaker 1: the ones that i wanted answers theirs Some other ones
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  Speaker 1: that I wanted to get around to but I just
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  Speaker 1: didn't because time time put me and I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to be able to go on for hours but I
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  Speaker 1: hope you like the questions and answers that I got
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  Speaker 1: so yeah that was the Pathfinder board. It's quite an
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  Speaker 1: interesting way of doing a spirit board. I like the
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  Speaker 1: idea of this symbolism it very much reminds me of
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  Speaker 1: tarot cards and things like that we've got it in
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  Speaker 1: tuberty are all meaning in these things because I mean
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  Speaker 1: after all all all these things essentially it all comes
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  Speaker 1: from a yam subconscious burn my arm on the other
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  Speaker 1: day cooking dinner puts them for them hit the top
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  Speaker 1: of the oven but perils of making dinner. You can
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  Speaker 1: still get them the kind of pricey these days. So
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  Speaker 1: this is the murder of James Proud to understand this
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  Speaker 1: murder we have to look at the circumstances surrounding it
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  Speaker 1: and the close knit lives of a small group of
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  Speaker 1: people James Proud known as Jimmy to his friends was
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  Speaker 1: a vulnerable adult with learning difficulties at one point his
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  Speaker 1: life had been fairly normal he was in a committed
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  Speaker 1: relationship and he'd fathered two children early photographs show him
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  Speaker 1: looking healthy and happy however in 2006 his relationship ended
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  Speaker 1: and Jimmy Proud's life descended into One of homelessness and
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  Speaker 1: petty crime it was most likely around this time that
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  Speaker 1: he met Zahid Zaman at the people's kitchen. This is
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  Speaker 1: the soup kitchen in Newcastle city centre Zahid Zaman muddled
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  Speaker 1: himself as a pillar of the community and animal lover
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  Speaker 1: and a friend of the downtrodden in actual fact he
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  Speaker 1: was a manipulative. Sadistic egotist with a paunch on for
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  Speaker 1: bestiality porn he volunteered at the people's kitchen and it
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  Speaker 1: was here that he trolled for vulnerable people to take
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  Speaker 1: advantage of he was in a wheelchair from a car
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  Speaker 1: accident years before but apparently this was mostly for appearances
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  Speaker 1: he was often witnessed jumping up. Out of his chair
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  Speaker 1: to run for a bus or to carry furniture he
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  Speaker 1: lived at 35ST. Stevens Way in Percy, Maine North Shields
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  Speaker 1: his neighbors knew him as a bit of a troublemaker
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  Speaker 1: after moving into the property he'd fitted multiple CCTV cameras
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  Speaker 1: to the house and he used this to spy on
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  Speaker 1: people coming and going up and down the street he
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  Speaker 1: had a habit of calling the police on his neighbors
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  Speaker 1: for extremely petty reasons often making up stuff just to
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  Speaker 1: get them into trouble he was also known for going
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  Speaker 1: around in his wheelchair with a body mounted camera trying
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  Speaker 1: to go to people into getting Into an argument with
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  Speaker 1: him he would then use this footage to report them
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  Speaker 1: for harassment essentially he was a cry bully he lived
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  Speaker 1: with a woman called Kate Raworth. Raworth owned the property
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  Speaker 1: at number 35 and she had been quite involved with
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  Speaker 1: the local community volunteering and taking part in the church
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  Speaker 1: choir however after her husband left in 2004 the now
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  Speaker 1: isolated Raworth turned to drink and began using internet dating
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  Speaker 1: sites to meet men for casual sex it was through
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  Speaker 1: one of these dating sites that She met Zahid Zaman
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  Speaker 1: and he moved into her home in 2007 after moving
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  Speaker 1: in Kate Raworth friends noticed her changing her she became
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  Speaker 1: isolated and withdrawn she stopped taking part in community activities
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  Speaker 1: and seemed to lose her outgoing personality behind her scenes
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  Speaker 1: Zaman was slowly taking control of her life he would
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  Speaker 1: fly into fits of rage threatening to beat her with
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  Speaker 1: a hammer he stopped her children from visiting the house
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  Speaker 1: and he put cardboard over the windows to stop people
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  Speaker 1: seeing inside Kate. Raworth also owned a property around the
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  Speaker 1: corner No. 75 St. Stephen's Way and she rented it
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  Speaker 1: out at some point although the timeline is a bit
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  Speaker 1: unclear here Jimmy Proud met a woman named Ann Corbett
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  Speaker 1: at the Soup Kitchen the two of them started a
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  Speaker 1: relationship and moved in together at No. 75 in 2009
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  Speaker 1: Zahid Zaman met a woman called Myra Wood on Facebook
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  Speaker 1: they developed a relationship and in 2013 she also moved
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  Speaker 1: into No. 75 similar to Kate Raworth Myra Wood's family
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  Speaker 1: noticed her changing her. After she got involved with Zahid
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  Speaker 1: Zaman he had set about systematically isolating and controlling her
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  Speaker 1: just like he did with Raworth so to recap because
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: this is a bit of a convoluted situation we have
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  Speaker 1: Zahid Zaman who is no longer in a relationship with
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  Speaker 1: Kate Raworth but still living with her at number 35
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  Speaker 1: he's now going out with Myra Wood who's living at
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  Speaker 1: number 75 with and Corbett and Jimmy proud the five of.
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  Speaker 1: Them formed this weird almost cult-like gang with Zahid Zaman
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  Speaker 1: as the leader son. Headlines have called them the North
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  Speaker 1: Shield's death cult but I don't know if the word
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  Speaker 1: cult is completely accurate as far as I can tell
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  Speaker 1: they didn't follow any particular belief or ideology but they
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  Speaker 1: do have some of the characteristics present in this are
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  Speaker 1: you in a cult checklist like the group is focused
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  Speaker 1: on a living leader to whom the members seem to
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  Speaker 1: display excessively zealous unquestioning commitment and member subservience to the group,
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  Speaker 1: causes them to cut ties with family and friends and
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  Speaker 1: to give up personal goals and activities that were of
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  Speaker 1: interest before joining the group also members are encouraged or
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  Speaker 1: required to live and or socialize only with other group
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  Speaker 1: members and most importantly the group teaches or implies that
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  Speaker 1: its supposedly exalted ends justify means that members would have
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  Speaker 1: considered unethical before joining the group jimmy prout's role in
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  Speaker 1: this gang was basically the dog's body he was constantly
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  Speaker 1: made to run errands and do odd jobs for the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the group it seems That in the hierarchy
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  Speaker 1: of the gang he was at the very bottom it
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  Speaker 1: also looks like he became the group's scapegoats the women
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  Speaker 1: of the group fearful of violent repercussions from Zaman would
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  Speaker 1: pass the blame for their own transgressions down to the
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  Speaker 1: lowest member of the gang as violence and abuse became
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  Speaker 1: normalized within the group they would have taken their own
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  Speaker 1: frustrations and fears out on Jimmy Jimmy Proud lost a
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  Speaker 1: huge amount of weight during his time at St. Stephen's
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  Speaker 1: Way I don't know whether he was Deliberately starved food
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  Speaker 1: restriction is another method of control within cults it could
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: have just been caused by the poverty. And the stress
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: of the situation but photographs of him in 2015 show
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: a shocking change from his earlier life 2015 would see
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: a serious escalation in the violence Zahid Zaman had developed
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: a burning hatred for in Corbett's brother. Ivan possibly this
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: was because Ivan was seen as an outsider to their
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: gang he would occasionally stay at number 75 with his
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: sister but he wasn't part of the core group Zaman
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: accused Ivan Corbett of stealing tools from him Ivan had
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: moved out of number 75 so none of the gang
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: could actually get hold of him instead they directed the
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: anger at Jimmy Proud. Accusing him of not doing enough
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: to help them recover the stolen items he became the
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: target of an escalating series of attacks it's not known
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: who exactly administered these beatings later when questions the gang
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: members would all blame one another in an attempt to
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: absorb themselves a responsibility sometime in mid-November 2015. Jimmy was
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: severely beaten and stabbed he didn't seek medical help until
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: the 27th of November when he attended the North Tyneside
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: General Hospital the doctor who treated him said he had
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: bruises to his arms, head, face, legs and back and
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: he had stab wounds to his left shoulder, left upper
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: arm and scrotum his left shoulder was also fractured the
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: stab wounds to his scrotum seemed to be a prelude
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: to a much more gruesome attack that would come later
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: and a sign perhaps that the violence was becoming sexual
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: in nature on the 30th of November, Jimmy posted a
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: number of photographs of his battered face and body to
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Facebook a desperate cry for help that seems to have
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: been ignored my mouth hurt, my body hurt, My shoulder
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: hurt over the following few months. Jimmy Proud was subjected
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: to increasingly depraved punishments and degradation at the hands of
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: his so-called friends. He was strangled and had a glass
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: bottle smashed over his head. His teeth were smashed from
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: his jaw using a hammer and chisel on one second occasion.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: He was made to lie on the floor whilst Zamorin's
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: dogs were raped. Him and this probably wasn't even the
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: worst thing they did to him one day. They held
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Jimmy down while somebody sliced open his scrotum with a
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Stanley knife and removed one of his testicles they then
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: cooked his testicle by boiling it in water and forced
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: him to eat it a number of CCTV clips taken
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: from number 35 show Jimmy Prout's deteriorating condition as the
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: torture escalated this one was filmed in October of 2015
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: so it must have been before the worst of the abuse.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Started Jimmy seems to be. Walking around looking relatively healthy
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: here now look at this footage from just 4 months
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: later this was filmed on the 5th of February, 2016
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: it shows and Corbett pushing a distressed and disheveled Jimmy
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: proud towards number 35 St. Stephen's Way I'm not sure
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: which of the abuses had been done to him at
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: this point but he appears to be in tremendous pain
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: and having trouble walking they were filmed again a few
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: hours later and again, and Corbett is escorting him towards
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: number 35 this time Jimmy. Proud looks to be having
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: difficulty staying upright and he stumbles against the fence for
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: support the following day, they're seen again this time, K. Raworth,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Ann and Corbett are escorting Jimmy Proud to number 35
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: holding on to him like a prisoner the next day,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: they're seen again notice the expression on his face the
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: face of a man being taken to the torture chamber
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: at around quarter to ten that night, the gang are
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: seen leaving the property K. Raworth aggressively grabs Proud in
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: the process and here comes their god emperor I mean,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: You know you fucked up in life when this guy's
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: your leader they're seen walking up the streets and here
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Proud appears to collapse and the gang seems to
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: lift him to his feet and drag him onwards the
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: next day, they're seen again three days after this footage
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: was filmed, James, Jimmy Proud was dead the exact details
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: of his final moments are unclear again. Nobody wanted to
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: admit what happened and all seemed to blame each other
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: at 5.02am.