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  Speaker 1: Jesus is the God. Reform it.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get straight into a crisis for the government and
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  Speaker 3: danger for Australia. It is now clear after this astonishing
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  Speaker 3: day that the Albanizi governor has a new policy to
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  Speaker 3: let in even Palestinian refugees to say they support Hamas.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Hamas, and there's.
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  Speaker 3: A mis terrorist group that's actually banned here a worse
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  Speaker 3: immigration minster Tony Burke today even admitted that none of
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  Speaker 3: the two thousand, nine hundred Palaestinians so this governor has
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  Speaker 3: given a visa tou were actually interviewed beforehand to check
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  Speaker 3: their stories, even though they're from Hamas run Gaza, where
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  Speaker 3: a recent poll said half the people there backed Hamas
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  Speaker 3: killing twelve hundred Jews last October. Again, you didn't miss
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  Speaker 3: hear me. These people were not interviewed before they got
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  Speaker 3: a visa to come live among us. Almost half a
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  Speaker 3: here already. Now I have to play this grab to
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  Speaker 3: here because in otherwise never believe something so.
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  Speaker 4: Stupid, Minister, have any visas for individuals coming from the
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  Speaker 4: Gaza war zone been granted without an in person interview.
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  Speaker 4: When visas are issued within a war zone and people
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  Speaker 4: apply for visitor visas. The in person interview is a
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  Speaker 4: it's a different circumstance, but the security checks don't change,
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  Speaker 4: and that's what matters.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is crazy and it's full.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, no interview of these people, of course, means
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  Speaker 3: there are less checks on them.
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  Speaker 2: What a disgrace.
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  Speaker 3: This is labor entering to the Muslim vote at the
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  Speaker 3: cost of your security. And let me go back to
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  Speaker 3: how this all slipped out. I've been covering this for
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  Speaker 3: a few days now you probably know. But let's go
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  Speaker 3: back how it first became clear that this government sees
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  Speaker 3: no problem with letting him Palestinians from the Gaza war
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  Speaker 3: zone who say they support an Isamus terrorist group that
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  Speaker 3: is banned in this country, a terrorist group that started
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  Speaker 3: this war with Israel by slaughtering twelve hundred Israelis. Now
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  Speaker 3: the cat was first laud of the bag on Sunday
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  Speaker 3: by the head of ASIO, Mike Burgess. No, he said,
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  Speaker 3: Palestinian refugees supported Hamas would not be banned from coming here.
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  Speaker 3: Somes they didn't give, you know, real support.
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  Speaker 4: If it's just rhetorical or support, and they don't have
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  Speaker 4: an ideology or support for a violent extream as an ideology,
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  Speaker 4: then that's not a problem.
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  Speaker 3: Now this is so plainly mad that opposite leader Peter
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  Speaker 3: Dutton today said we should ban not only have US supporters,
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  Speaker 3: but all refugees from Gaza.
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  Speaker 2: Ban them because they.
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  Speaker 3: Are from a territory run by Hamas and we don't
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  Speaker 3: have a single Australian official on that ground there to
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  Speaker 3: check if these refugees are as innocent as they say
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  Speaker 3: they are.
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  Speaker 5: Hamas is a listed terrorist organization. They've just committed an
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  Speaker 5: atrocity against the Jewish people, the biggest attack on people
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  Speaker 5: of Jewish faith since a Holocaust. And that the government
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  Speaker 5: wouldn't be conducting checks. I don't think people should be
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  Speaker 5: coming in from that war zone at all at the moment.
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  Speaker 5: It's not prudent to do so, and I think it
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  Speaker 5: puts our national security at risk.
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  Speaker 3: Am I missing something here? I mean, doesn't it strike
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  Speaker 3: you as common sense? You know, ban them if we
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  Speaker 3: can't check them. But let's see now how the government responded.
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  Speaker 3: Not one labor MP today said and a number gave
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  Speaker 3: their opinion. Not one said you're right, this is mad
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  Speaker 3: and bad to lived in Palestinians who say the support Hamas.
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  Speaker 3: Not once today did Anthony Albanezi respond to any of
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  Speaker 3: the many questions he was asked by saying, of course
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  Speaker 3: some must support are not welcome in Australia. He just
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  Speaker 3: hid behind Asio as if Asio not the Prime Minister,
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  Speaker 3: is running an immigration program.
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  Speaker 6: Well listened at the security agencies when it comes to
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  Speaker 6: national security, and the Director General, Mark Burgess will play
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  Speaker 6: a critical role in that.
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  Speaker 3: Albany's even tried moral blackmail, which is about the last
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  Speaker 3: refuge of the parliamentary scoundrel.
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  Speaker 2: He accused Dutton.
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  Speaker 3: Of just not having heart, as if all this was
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  Speaker 3: about just seeming good and in the party maybe rather
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  Speaker 3: than keeping Australian safe. He came Dutton was a divider.
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  Speaker 6: All I say, to try to bring people together, not
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  Speaker 6: always looking for a wage or to divide.
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  Speaker 3: Now I'm going to ask you how is alban easy
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  Speaker 3: bringing us together by potentially importing terrorist sympathizers odes he
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  Speaker 3: wants the United United in saying, well, look, we're pretty
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  Speaker 3: cheesed off. We think this is the most stupid thing
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  Speaker 3: he has done in a long time, and Albani's his excuse.
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  Speaker 2: For it today, Well, it's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: He offered in parliament this false analogy that what he
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  Speaker 3: was doing with Palestinis today is like what the previous
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  Speaker 3: coalition government did with refugees from Afghanistan.
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  Speaker 5: Prime Minister, in order to hold a visa, individuals must
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  Speaker 5: pass a character test. Does supporting a listed terrorist organization
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  Speaker 5: like AMAS pass Australia's character test.
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  Speaker 7: Under the former government is this organization called the Taliban
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  Speaker 7: in Afghanistan and that of course did not stop Australia
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  Speaker 7: from accepting people from Afghanistan.
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  Speaker 1: And rightly so, missus speaker.
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  Speaker 2: Rightly, sir, now.
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  Speaker 3: That's a ridiculous analogy, a false analogy for two reasons. One,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure we didn't let in Afghanisa said hey, I'm
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  Speaker 3: a Taliban supporter, because they were in fact fleeing the Taliban. Plus,
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  Speaker 3: of course we had Australians on the ground in Afghanistan
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  Speaker 3: right up to that final evacuation. Some of these refugees
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  Speaker 3: actually had worked with the Australians and we interviewed, or
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  Speaker 3: the government interviewed refugees in a third country before bringing
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  Speaker 3: them here. Now, the response of Education, miss Sir Jason
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  Speaker 3: Clare today, because we'll be wondering what the heck is
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  Speaker 3: going on? How could this be the response for education
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  Speaker 3: mister Jason Clare today was even more revealing because it
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  Speaker 3: was so poisonous and so anti Israel. Here is his
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  Speaker 3: response after being asked if he'd like to see even
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  Speaker 3: more Palestinians come from Gaza. He dodged, he weaved, and
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  Speaker 3: then deflected, though viciously attacking Israel.
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  Speaker 8: Would you like to see more people being able to
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  Speaker 8: come from Garza?
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  Speaker 9: I'd like to see the war end. Well, you know,
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  Speaker 9: I'd like to see the killing end. I'd like to
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  Speaker 9: see the suffering end. I'd like to see the starvation end.
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  Speaker 9: I'd like to see Israel open the gate. There's plenty
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  Speaker 9: of food and medicine in Israel and plenty of trucks.
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  Speaker 9: Put the food and the medicine in the trucks and
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  Speaker 9: stop kids from starving to death.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, the latest survey of food supplies in Gaza
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  Speaker 3: by the IPC Family Monitoring Group concluded just last June,
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  Speaker 3: a couple of months ago, not even the available evidence
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  Speaker 3: does not indicate that famine is currently occurring, although we
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  Speaker 3: then added all the usual DAR warnings. You know that
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  Speaker 3: it's all the catastrophe there. That might be famine one day,
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  Speaker 3: or maybe there won't be.
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  Speaker 2: What's more.
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  Speaker 3: America's National Public Radio last month reported that Israel was
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  Speaker 3: getting plenty of food into Gaza, but it wasn't being
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  Speaker 3: distributed well thereby the United Nations, let alone Hamas. Indeed,
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  Speaker 3: it said, looting in Gaza by armed Palestinians. This is
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  Speaker 3: the un complaining by armed Palestinians are crippling their ability
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  Speaker 3: to collect this aid. So it's Hamas, not Israel that's
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  Speaker 3: the problem. Now, if you're wondering why Jason Claire would
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  Speaker 3: slander Israel like that and defend him our sympathizers coming here,
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  Speaker 3: know this, thirty percent of voters in his Sydney seat
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  Speaker 3: a Muslim, same Tony Burke's seat after redistribution, thirty percent.
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  Speaker 3: Even worse for Burke, a popular Muslim doctor. As I
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  Speaker 3: said last night, it's the Bazuni announced yesterday he'd run
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  Speaker 3: against Burke at the next selection, accusing him of going
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  Speaker 3: soft in Israel's genocide of Muslims in Gaza. So do
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  Speaker 3: you think, given all that that Burke is now going
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  Speaker 3: to say, you know what, I'm going to ban homus
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  Speaker 3: sympathizers from coming. And I don't care what my voters
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  Speaker 3: in my seat.
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  Speaker 2: Of Watson think.
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  Speaker 3: I mean really, the Muslim tale is wagging the Labor
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  Speaker 3: dog and the Albanize government is now betraying Australia. All
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  Speaker 3: this is so obviously mad, letting him people to even
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  Speaker 3: just rhetorical support for hamas terrorists. I mean, seriously, how
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  Speaker 3: can asia On the government be sure that a refugee
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  Speaker 3: is rhetorical support for Maus today doesn't turn into more
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  Speaker 3: concrete support tomorrow. Maybe they're lying, And how do they
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  Speaker 3: know that people with rhetorical support for Maus won't raise
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  Speaker 3: children a little more radical later? Does Labor even understand
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  Speaker 3: what's meddling with here? Does Asio? And I asked that
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  Speaker 3: because I was astonished to hear the previous ASIO boss
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  Speaker 3: Duncan Lewis the the Senate Committee this untruth seven years ago.
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  Speaker 5: I have absolutely no evidence to suggest there's a connection
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  Speaker 5: between refugees and terrorism.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, even then, four Australians had already been killed
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  Speaker 3: in terrorist attacks here by Muslim refugees like man Monis,
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  Speaker 3: and Iranian refugee staged the deadly Lint Cafe siege, like
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  Speaker 3: Faija Jabba, an Iranian refugee who killed police. Accounted Curtis
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  Speaker 3: Chang was out shouting allah Is the greatest and like
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  Speaker 3: some borne refugee Yakukaira, who murdered a worker in Melbourne
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  Speaker 3: shot three police and told Channel seven this is for
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  Speaker 3: as the Islamic state, this is for al Qaeda. And
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  Speaker 3: a year after that, of fifth Australian was murdered Melbourne,
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  Speaker 3: rest return who was stabbed to death by a Muslim
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  Speaker 3: refugee from Somalia out on our jihadest mission. That's five
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  Speaker 3: Australians already killed by our refugee program. Are they now
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  Speaker 3: going to be more? Thanks to an Albanizi government that's
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  Speaker 3: playing such dangerous ethnic politics just to win the next
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  Speaker 3: election with Muslim votes. Shame on them, Now, bring you
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  Speaker 3: more Palestinians. Doesn't seem to be great news for most
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  Speaker 3: Australians when you see what the pro Palestinian crowd already
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  Speaker 3: here is doing.
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  Speaker 2: Now. I know many of them are.
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  Speaker 3: Actually just the hard left exploiting this, but certainly not all.
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  Speaker 3: Last night the Inner West Council of Sydney had their
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  Speaker 3: meeting crashed by hundreds of green sled pro Palasinian protesters
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  Speaker 3: with Jewish speakers, heckled, councilors, abused and officials only be
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  Speaker 3: escorted out for their safety.
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  Speaker 1: Shame on labor, shame.
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  Speaker 10: You've made your decision tonight.
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  Speaker 1: You made your decision.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see you at the election.
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  Speaker 9: You're getting back in.
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  Speaker 3: You may not have got the message, but these are
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  Speaker 3: supposedly peace supporters. Also Sydney, the Prime Minister can't even
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  Speaker 3: get into his own electorate office. Not for months now.
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  Speaker 3: It was a pro Palestine protesters in Melbourne. There have
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  Speaker 3: been angry demonstrations there too, blocking the streets. There has
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  Speaker 3: been charges aid against some protesters and residents outside of
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  Speaker 3: the Immigration Department. Officer in the Docklands tell me today
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  Speaker 3: they're feeling harassed and threatened by noisy protesters camped out there,
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  Speaker 3: not just pro Palestinian, but pro refuges generally and temporary
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  Speaker 3: visa holders, demanding as if it's their right to be
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  Speaker 3: able to stay here permanently, protesting noisily day and night,
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  Speaker 3: waking the neighbors, driving away shoppers.
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  Speaker 11: What do you, Vaughn.
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  Speaker 1: Vaughan, when do you want it? What?
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  Speaker 3: Joining mister panel Michael cost the former New South Wales
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  Speaker 3: Labor treasure and Federal Liberal MP Garth Hamilton, gentlemen, welcome
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  Speaker 3: to you both.
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  Speaker 2: Michael.
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  Speaker 3: You buying the Albanezi government's excuses for letting in people
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  Speaker 3: who say they support Hamas and the government say well,
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  Speaker 3: look we're just relying on Azio here or this is
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  Speaker 3: business as usual.
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  Speaker 1: Oh absolutely not.
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  Speaker 8: And I think think the Head of Asia has made
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  Speaker 8: a fundamental mistake in the way he phrased those comments
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  Speaker 8: in relation to this issue. I think it's absurd to
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  Speaker 8: draw a rhetorical versus ideological distinction. I mean, if you
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  Speaker 8: can explain that to me, and explain it more importantly
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  Speaker 8: to the Australian voting public, you're really going to be
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  Speaker 8: somebody that's worthy of a rhetorical war to yourself, because
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  Speaker 8: the bottom line is that nobody's buying this, and Labour's
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  Speaker 8: got to be very careful. The pressure in those westerns
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  Speaker 8: in these seats has to be offset politically against the
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  Speaker 8: mainstream Australian position on this, and certainly I can tell
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  Speaker 8: you it isn't the Ago Bosses position. Australians are very
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  Speaker 8: worried about this, and the absurdity, as you rightly pointed out,
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  Speaker 8: of drawing some sort of analogy between the Taliban and
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  Speaker 8: Afghanistan and what's going on in Hamas. I mean, the
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  Speaker 8: difference is fundamental. I mean, these are Musk supporters that
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  Speaker 8: are wanting to come into the country actually supported the
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  Speaker 8: actions that occur there, so they're fleeing the actions they supported.
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  Speaker 8: The people in Afghanistan were fleeing the Taliban because they
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  Speaker 8: opposed it. It's just so fundamental and so boneheaded of
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  Speaker 8: this government not to understand that. I'd also call on
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  Speaker 8: Peter Dutton to, you know, really put the pressure on
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  Speaker 8: by offering to exchange preferences in these seats, say to
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  Speaker 8: labor very clearly that if you take a position that's
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  Speaker 8: principled on this, we will cover your back by preferencing
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  Speaker 8: you rather than any Muslim party or any religious party
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  Speaker 8: that exists out there. I think that's the next step here,
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  Speaker 8: and both parties should commit to that, and let's isolate
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  Speaker 8: these people and get a sensible debate going about the
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  Speaker 8: terror threat in Australia.
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  Speaker 3: Now, I've got to say that I have no doubt
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  Speaker 3: that some of the people that we have given Visus
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  Speaker 3: three to come out here as refugees are in fact
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  Speaker 3: opposed to Hermas maybe victims of her Maas, maybe some
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  Speaker 3: of the few Christians still in Gaza. But the point
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  Speaker 3: is that we don't have systems that anyone can trust
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  Speaker 3: to distinguish between them and someone else who is very
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  Speaker 3: much pro a mass now.
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  Speaker 2: Garth Heilton.
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  Speaker 3: Something that Michael there touched on. This is all that
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  Speaker 3: came out when the head of ASIO said in an
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  Speaker 3: interview on Sunday on.
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  Speaker 2: The ABC like all cheery, you know, this is what
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  Speaker 2: we're doing.
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  Speaker 3: If they say that support a mass is just saying it,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we'll let him in. I was wondering it
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  Speaker 3: was unusually honest and led to this bonfire. Is he
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  Speaker 3: saying what is ASIO policy? Or was he maybe giving
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  Speaker 3: us a little hint, a warning, a g up that
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  Speaker 3: this is government policy? Whose policy is this?
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  Speaker 2: Really? Well you may be right. I hope you're not.
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  Speaker 12: But what's clearly needed to answer that question a strong
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  Speaker 12: position from our Prime Minister Andrew. You know, there are
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  Speaker 12: some genuine concerns and I think Michael laid them out
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  Speaker 12: very very well for the Australian public safety and there
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  Speaker 12: may well be absolutely absolute there'll be people there fleeing
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  Speaker 12: Gaza who are genuinely opposed to Hamas. I have no
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  Speaker 12: question lived in the Middle East myself for quite some time.
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  Speaker 1: I've worked there.
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  Speaker 12: I watched the fall of Syria, and I remember seeing
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  Speaker 12: people coming out of that area and not allowed to
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  Speaker 12: go into Saudi Arabia by the way, trying to go
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  Speaker 12: for whatever reason their closest neighbor wouldn't let them in
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  Speaker 12: a great show of solidarity in that region.
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  Speaker 2: But there were genuine people who are run away.
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  Speaker 12: There were also people who were not genuine who were
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  Speaker 12: trying to take their views further into another area, another
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  Speaker 12: part of the world, and that's of genuine concern. And look,
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  Speaker 12: you can't look around Australia at the moment and see
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  Speaker 12: that the riot, the social upheaval we've seen in Sydney
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  Speaker 12: and elsewhere, it is very very political in nature. There's
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  Speaker 12: clearly trying to execute a political outcome. You can't view
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  Speaker 12: that and pretend that it's not there. It is and
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  Speaker 12: the Prime minist needs set up I know, some clear
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  Speaker 12: guidance on what we're doing.
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  Speaker 11: I know.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's that's true. And it goes to this
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  Speaker 3: comment about being divisive. You know, it's divices to point
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  Speaker 3: out what they're doing is stupid. I mean that cannot
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  Speaker 3: be the measure of being divisive. Devices is doing something
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  Speaker 3: that is stupid and that everyone notices in the you're
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  Speaker 3: being told to shut up about Michael before we I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to talk more about this with their own dean
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  Speaker 3: because there's some really important issues to tease out here.
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  Speaker 3: But I want to switch to something run in your
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  Speaker 3: hitting zone. I am worried by something this week. The
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  Speaker 3: albities of government treated it is a huge success, but
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  Speaker 3: could actually spell big trouble. Now, real wages this week
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  Speaker 3: we've got new figures have gone up by four point
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  Speaker 3: one percent of the year. Right's it's good news if
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  Speaker 3: you've got the wages, which means you probably were a
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  Speaker 3: public servant. Wage growth for people in private industry as
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  Speaker 3: much less. The problem is that we have to get
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  Speaker 3: inflation to under three percent or we will all pay.
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  Speaker 3: How do you get inflation to go under three percent
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  Speaker 3: when wages are rising more than four percent?
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  Speaker 1: Well that's simple, Andrew.
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  Speaker 2: You've got to have productivity.
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  Speaker 8: And that's been the problem with what's happened with public
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  Speaker 8: service wages in New South Wales where I am. I
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  Speaker 8: mean they gave teachers this absurd wage increase without one
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  Speaker 8: productivity offset, and then the government's gone into panic and
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  Speaker 8: seeking the cost cud all over the place. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 8: nobody opposed to people's wages going up, provided it's based
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  Speaker 8: on productivity.
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  Speaker 1: But I also there's a bit of a slighter hand
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  Speaker 1: in that.
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  Speaker 2: Remember we're only talking.
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  Speaker 8: About the last twelve months in terms of real wages,
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  Speaker 8: even if you account for the public service wages driving it,
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  Speaker 8: if you actually look over the whole period of this government,
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  Speaker 8: the fact that the matter is real wages are still
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  Speaker 8: down even despite the public service increase and the cost
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  Speaker 8: of living certainly, and I'm not talking about the CPI,
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  Speaker 8: but the cost of living in general, if it include
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  Speaker 8: all the factors that are put into the CPI, means
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  Speaker 8: that those real wages are illusionary. The fact of the
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  Speaker 8: matter is most people are going backwards.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, I'm afraid that is it Just one last fun
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  Speaker 3: question though for you Garth. You know I've warned farmers
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  Speaker 3: that the global streams would be coming for them too.
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  Speaker 3: It is also their issue, right and now of course
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  Speaker 3: that's happening. The Albaniza government is trying to get its
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  Speaker 3: mandatory disclosure climate reporting scheme through Parliament's all very complicated,
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  Speaker 3: but in short, it's going to apply only to businesses
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  Speaker 3: with a turnover more than fifty million, but still could
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: hurt farmers because the big supermarkets, for instance, and so on,
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: they're probably going to have to ask farmers who supply
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: them with food and all that what their emissions are
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: in order to work out their own. The supermarkets own
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: emissions in TOTO, which they have to do under this.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: National Farmers Federation wrote to the Governor May asking for
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: farmers to be exempted, but they've got no response so far.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Should farmers be exempt.
• 20:10
  Speaker 12: Absolutely, farmers should be exempt and one other group, Andrew,
• 20:13
  Speaker 12: there's just one other group I'd like to see exempted
• 20:16
  Speaker 12: everybody else. This is a huge issue. I spoke with
• 20:20
  Speaker 12: insurers recently. They have a major concern around this because
• 20:24
  Speaker 12: they're going to have to report Scope three omissions for
• 20:28
  Speaker 12: the people that they provide insurance to. Now just think
• 20:31
  Speaker 12: about this. This could be Mum and dad bakeries. Now
• 20:34
  Speaker 12: that bakery has to now employ somebody or has to
• 20:37
  Speaker 12: pay somebody to work out what their emissions are so
• 20:40
  Speaker 12: they can report them. Back up, we just talked about productivity,
• 20:44
  Speaker 12: so we're literally adding someone into that workplace that will
• 20:48
  Speaker 12: do nothing to increase the output of it, only provide
• 20:52
  Speaker 12: data for this process. Look at best, what's going to
• 20:57
  Speaker 12: happen here is people are going to be guessing what
• 20:59
  Speaker 12: their numbers are.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: More likely they'll be lying.
• 21:02
  Speaker 12: About their emissions, and we're going to see numbers that
• 21:05
  Speaker 12: come through that are completely meaningless. So yet by all means,
• 21:08
  Speaker 12: exclude farmers, just include that other little.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Group of everybody else as well.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Well pointed out Well pointed out Michael Costa, Garth Hamilton,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: thank you so much for you to you both.
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: Now.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Also coming up tonight, we've got just enter price and
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: the fake racism claims from Labour ones a doozy, the
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Education Minister's flip response, the new figure showing me of
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: a crisis in school standards and boy do we and
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: another child stamp in London and yes by an immigrant
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: and more.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Don't go away.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: But after the break roundin on this pandering to the
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Muslim vote, we need to talk in a second about
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: this new digital id.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: That the government's telling us who wants to give us?
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Thank you?
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: But first, did I just hear Labor lose an election
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: by being unable to say no, we won't live in
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Palestinians who support a mass joining me is rondine, It's
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: are in chief of the Spectator Australian hosts of Outsiders
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: each Sunday here on Sky News at nine A m Rondin,
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is what we heard today was just
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: so bizarre, so lunatic. I'll come back to that word.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: It's lunatic. What did you make of it all?
• 22:30
  Speaker 10: Well, first of all, Andrew, I thought your comments earlier
• 22:32
  Speaker 10: was superb This is so insane It beggars belief.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: If this government weren't already.
• 22:41
  Speaker 10: So ridiculous in the things that they have done on
• 22:43
  Speaker 10: the ideas so called that they put forward. But this idea, which,
• 22:47
  Speaker 10: as you said, Mike Burgess, kind of beld the cats
• 22:50
  Speaker 10: by suggesting that, oh, we don't actually care if you
• 22:54
  Speaker 10: support Hamas Hamas if you will still let you into
• 22:58
  Speaker 10: the country if you support us, as long as you
• 23:00
  Speaker 10: don't actively support Humas.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: What does he mean by that?
• 23:03
  Speaker 10: So long as you don't actively go around beheading babies,
• 23:07
  Speaker 10: so long as you don't actively go around raping people,
• 23:09
  Speaker 10: so long as you don't actively go around murdering and
• 23:12
  Speaker 10: torturing people as we saw on October seventh, and one
• 23:16
  Speaker 10: of the greatest atrocities certainly of the modern era, in
• 23:20
  Speaker 10: which and it's horrible to say this but the statistics
• 23:24
  Speaker 10: and the polls since have borne this out. A large majority,
• 23:29
  Speaker 10: perhaps his highest, seventy percent of the population of Gaza
• 23:33
  Speaker 10: supported the actions of Hermas.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 23:36
  Speaker 10: They didn't support the Blind's political ideology of Hamas in
• 23:40
  Speaker 10: some kind.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Of abstract way.
• 23:43
  Speaker 10: They supported the dismemberment, the active, disgusting, dehumanizing things done
• 23:53
  Speaker 10: to Jewish people. They supported that knowing what was involved,
• 23:56
  Speaker 10: and even worse, members of the public.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: We now know we're also involved.
• 24:01
  Speaker 10: So the idea that you can say, now I've been
• 24:04
  Speaker 10: saying on your program, Andrew and on outsiders for weeks,
• 24:08
  Speaker 10: if not months, we cannot let a single individual from
• 24:13
  Speaker 10: Gaza come into this country unless we are one hundred
• 24:16
  Speaker 10: percent sure that a they do not harbor any kind
• 24:21
  Speaker 10: of support for Hamas. But more importantly, as per the
• 24:24
  Speaker 10: German immigration model, which I've mentioned several times, the German
• 24:28
  Speaker 10: immigration model vets all people migrating into Germany now for
• 24:34
  Speaker 10: any kind of anti Semitic, anti Jewish beliefs or ideas.
• 24:38
  Speaker 10: The fact that we've done none of that is a disgrace.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: If I don't know, it's if it wasn't so serious,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: it is comic.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, how is it that in twenty fourteen, you
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Rowan Dean have to be on the TV saying.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: It might not be a good idea to import people
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: who say they support one of the world's worst terrorist group.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's to the point.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: How does the Albanizi government, how does aser think it's
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: in our benefit to import people? I mean, the UN
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: says there are one hundred and seventeen million people around
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: the world who are refugees, and this government goes to
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Gaza to pick out under three thousand, including people who
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: do support Hamas, and says, now, of all one hundred
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: and seventy million, we want these ones. How does that
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: help us? Ryan, it is?
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: It is, Well, it's such a look, it's such.
• 25:32
  Speaker 10: A dereliction of duty, Andrew, It's a dereliction of duty
• 25:36
  Speaker 10: that shows utter contempt for the Jewish people of this nation,
• 25:41
  Speaker 10: utter contempt for those who support the Jewish people of
• 25:44
  Speaker 10: this nation, utter contempt for anyone who holds even the
• 25:48
  Speaker 10: most basic civilized norms of you know, well, actually you
• 25:52
  Speaker 10: don't go around raping and murdering people if you disagree
• 25:55
  Speaker 10: with them politically. So the contempt that the Albanize government,
• 25:59
  Speaker 10: and let's not forget the Penny Wong has reinforced this
• 26:02
  Speaker 10: contempt at every single opportunity she has had. She has
• 26:07
  Speaker 10: reinforced that, in her view, it would appear the Israelis
• 26:12
  Speaker 10: will always come second to the interests of the opposite
• 26:16
  Speaker 10: of the opposite side of the Palestinians, or whatever you
• 26:18
  Speaker 10: want to call. So, the contempt for the Australian jew
• 26:23
  Speaker 10: the contempt for those who support, or maybe have strong
• 26:28
  Speaker 10: feelings for or neighbors of Jewish people, who wish them
• 26:32
  Speaker 10: well and wish them nothing but well, the utter contempt
• 26:36
  Speaker 10: the Albaneseywong government, with those ministers from the Western suburbs
• 26:40
  Speaker 10: of Sydney that you mentioned earlier.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Hold Australian jury.
• 26:44
  Speaker 10: In utter contempt and must be condemned for such attribute.
• 26:48
  Speaker 10: But as you said, the Monty Python nature of this
• 26:51
  Speaker 10: idea that you can come in if you support a
• 26:53
  Speaker 10: muss song as you don't kind of you know.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Do it too strongly A little bit disgrace me, a.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Little bit brown. You can a little bit this much,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: but not that much.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: You know, somewhere on this sliding ruler that they somehow have,
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: I wonder how it goes. You know, they've got a
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: rule of the length of my desk and they say,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: indicate this is just not really support. That's a lot
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: of support. Where exactly on this scale are you?
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: That's just that?
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just obscene, by the way, obsortunely.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Black humor would humor would define that?
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Sorry, yeah, well black humor. But we're talking about our
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: national security. But absolutely pitted it up. And I think exactly, well,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: you tell me he made a captain's call this morning.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: I don't think he consulted anyone or not many. He's
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: certainly not his full cabinet to say no to any
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: refugees from guys. In fact, the Prime Minister's going around
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: to saying it was a thought bubble.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: You know, he is offered a frolic of his own.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: He's been called heartless, has been called even racist for that.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: What do you call him?
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: I call it brilliant and genius.
• 28:01
  Speaker 10: And the reason why every single person in Australia should
• 28:03
  Speaker 10: be putting Peter Dutton in the lodge. It's called moral clarity,
• 28:07
  Speaker 10: something I've been talking about, something you've been talking about
• 28:10
  Speaker 10: for months now.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: You must have.
• 28:12
  Speaker 10: Moral clarity on this issue. And Peter Dutton is one
• 28:15
  Speaker 10: hundred percent correct. By the way, in saying that he
• 28:18
  Speaker 10: will take no one from Gaza. Peter Dutton is no
• 28:21
  Speaker 10: different to the Egyptians, the Saudis, the Jordanians half half.
• 28:27
  Speaker 10: In fact, all the Muslim world are saying no, thanks,
• 28:30
  Speaker 10: we don't want this mob. So Peter Dutton is actually
• 28:33
  Speaker 10: in good company. I think the Muslims of Western Sydney
• 28:36
  Speaker 10: and Western Melbourne should be saying, hear here, Peter Dutton
• 28:39
  Speaker 10: is on our side because our the countries we come
• 28:42
  Speaker 10: from as well.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: They're saying no to anybody from Gaza.
• 28:44
  Speaker 10: So Peter Dutton is on the right side of history.
• 28:47
  Speaker 10: But in all serious loss, Andrew, you have to have
• 28:50
  Speaker 10: a Prime minister who has that moral clarity to sit
• 28:54
  Speaker 10: to know when to say no.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: You cannot put Australian lines at feeling.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: And it's a moral clarity. But I think you're absolutely correct.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: But it should be one that in fact you know
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: that you know, you've got the gut instinct that of
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: course this is wrong. But there's the Prime Minister saying, oh, Asier,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: listen around just quickly.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Something else that.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: I see has alarmed you, that I mentioned just before
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: to me, Frank, I can't quite see it myself. But
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: then on board with these sort of things, and maybe
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: I shouldn't be the government's new plan for a digital
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: identification system called the Trust Exchange, which makes you think, oh,
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: maybe I shouldn't trust this The Trust Exchange, or it
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: calls it texts so you can identify yourself to a
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: business without handing over any documents. It's just a QR
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: code on your phone. It's option, says the Minister Responsible
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Bill Shorton.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: Here he is, I'm working with colleagues and states to
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: facilitate storage of licenses and cards in my GOV and
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: in state digital olots.
• 29:56
  Speaker 13: The idea is that instead of handing over this sensitive data,
• 30:00
  Speaker 13: you'll be able to verify your identity, age or qualifications
• 30:04
  Speaker 13: using a QR code, which then gives a hotel, club
• 30:08
  Speaker 13: or employer a digital thumbs up with no need for
• 30:12
  Speaker 13: them to store that information. The promise is you'll control
• 30:16
  Speaker 13: what information is shared and that data will have greater
• 30:19
  Speaker 13: protections than the current toughest standards overseas well.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: That sounds all very innocent. What's your problem with it? Rohan?
• 30:28
  Speaker 10: It always sounds all very innocent, as everything during COVID
• 30:32
  Speaker 10: sounded all very innocent. Anyone who's had to go through
• 30:36
  Speaker 10: the indignation of not being allowed into a place because
• 30:40
  Speaker 10: they didn't have the right QR code, or some app
• 30:43
  Speaker 10: tells you that you can't go into AORB that is China,
• 30:47
  Speaker 10: that is communist China, that is not Australia. Now, basically
• 30:51
  Speaker 10: Bill Shorten is telling us if I want to go
• 30:53
  Speaker 10: into the pub, I got to check with Bill Shortened
• 30:55
  Speaker 10: first whether I'm allowed in. No, thanks Bill, I'd rather
• 30:58
  Speaker 10: make up my own mind which pubs I'm going to
• 31:00
  Speaker 10: go in, and I would like the land or lap
• 31:02
  Speaker 10: pub to have the choice whether they'll let me in
• 31:04
  Speaker 10: or to turf me out. What I don't want the
• 31:06
  Speaker 10: landlord to do is to be checking with Bill Shorten
• 31:09
  Speaker 10: labor where I can go.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: For a pint.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: But I've got to say, you know, surely the issue
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: is whether the pub demands identification for you to come
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: in the door. I know your fresh facing, young looking,
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: you know, but you know I think that's the issue
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: rather than the form of anyway. Look, no it isn't
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: look well we'll talk about because once for the little
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: wrinkles that you're seeing too. I need to read your
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: read Rowandine's writings on this and you'll be better informed rowandine,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: thanks for your time. After the break, did you catch
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: mister Jason Clear said, actually two dumb things today. I
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: mentioned one of them. The other is about the shocking
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: results from mass testing of our school kids. Claiming Israel
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: was starving Palestinian children to death. Isn't the only stupid
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: thing said today, but Federal Education Minister Jason Clare Checker's
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: response to the disastrous results of the napland tests of
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: our schools students out today showing a third aren't meeting
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: literacy and U receive benchmarks. They also showed Aboriginal children
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: doing even worse, sixty percent in remote schools not reaching
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: those benchmarks either, sixty percent. Here's the education Minister's response.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Your chances in life shouldn't depend on your parents, paypacket
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: or the color of your skin. But these results again
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: show this is still the case. I mean, really is
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: clear saying there's a link genetic maybe between your skin
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: color and school results. If you did, that would be
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: clearly racist. They have average and friends who are whipped
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: smart talk to one later in the show. Or is
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: clear implying Australia is so racist that it's holding back
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Aboriginal children Just because of the color of their skin.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: These napland results actually suggests a different story. Children of
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: migrant parents who speak a foreign language are twice as
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: likely to excel in year nine maths and do even
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: better than other students at English. And guess who makes
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: up our top two migrant intakes now Indians and Chinese.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Their skin color certainly isn't linked to failure. So I
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: suggest to Clear that it's culture, not skin color that
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: matters most. The culture of your family, town, tribe, faith,
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: ethnic group, or a mixture of all or some. If
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: you don't grow up, say valuing hard work, education, individualism,
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: and in my opinion, some of the key values of
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Western culture that's spread around the world to India, you'll
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: be less likely to reach Western standards at school, work
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: and other places. And that's why Clear's other response to
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: these results, the chances in life shouldn't depend your paypacket
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: also largely false that came from a migrant families not
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: well off, but they really prize books in a good
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: schooling and all the children well. If many successful students
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: are from rich families, it's not because the money made
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: them smarter. It's more the other way round. It's because
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: parents who themselves think books, education, hard work and important
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: are big surprise, likely to get richer. Joining us the
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: opposition's education spokesman Sarah Henderson, Sarah, thanks for joining me.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: What do these NAP plan results tell you.
• 34:27
  Speaker 14: Andrew, good evening. Well, this is a disastrous result and
• 34:31
  Speaker 14: it tells us that one in three children is failing
• 34:35
  Speaker 14: that plan, not meeting not meeting the minimum proficiency standards
• 34:38
  Speaker 14: in reading, writing, mathematics. And that tells a shocking story
• 34:43
  Speaker 14: about Australian education. And that's why Andrew the Coalition has
• 34:48
  Speaker 14: been absolutely relentless in its advocacy for getting back to basics,
• 34:52
  Speaker 14: focusing on literacy, on numerous evidence based teaching methods that
• 34:57
  Speaker 14: we know work. So I take your point the concerns
• 35:02
  Speaker 14: you're raising because your post code, if you receive the
• 35:06
  Speaker 14: best type of education, does not determine your educational outcomes.
• 35:12
  Speaker 14: And so I think you've really highlighted some pretty regrettable
• 35:16
  Speaker 14: comments by the Education Minister Jason Clare.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: You know it when you say teaching.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: I was really struggling with my kids going back a
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: few years now at school and I helped out in
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: the classrooms that they weren't teaching phonics, you know, like
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: how the consistuent parts of each word, how they.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Sound to that kind of thing is cat you know.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Now, lots lots of exceptions to that, but basically, and
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: it was struck by how well students who are struggling
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: cotten onto this and got it. What comes out of
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: this is that one of the states that does work,
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: or the state that does worse, is Queensland, which has
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: not adopted phonics just for a start, but not yet.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, what do you make of this?
• 36:05
  Speaker 14: Well, basically, we have been failing Australian children and despite
• 36:09
  Speaker 14: a very substantial increase in schools funding under our government
• 36:13
  Speaker 14: we nearly doubled schools funding over two decades. We've seen
• 36:18
  Speaker 14: a decline in school standards. So the average year ten
• 36:21
  Speaker 14: student Andrew is a year behind in their learning compared
• 36:26
  Speaker 14: to twenty years ago. And yet we have poured so
• 36:29
  Speaker 14: much more money into our classrooms. But what's been missing
• 36:33
  Speaker 14: and I am pleased to see that there is traction
• 36:36
  Speaker 14: now even with the Education Minister himself. What has been
• 36:40
  Speaker 14: missing is those evidence based teaching methods, the teaching of phonics,
• 36:45
  Speaker 14: explicit instruction and the other things that we know work.
• 36:50
  Speaker 14: The grade one phonics check is so important to screen
• 36:54
  Speaker 14: children and understand how they are tracking, so that if
• 36:57
  Speaker 14: someone is falling behind, you can identify find that child early.
• 37:01
  Speaker 14: And of course, one of the really important recommendations that
• 37:05
  Speaker 14: we made in a Senate inquiry into classroom disruption is
• 37:09
  Speaker 14: the critical importance of teaching children how to behave. That's
• 37:13
  Speaker 14: why we've called for a national behavior curriculum, because when
• 37:17
  Speaker 14: children know what's expected of them, guess what most of
• 37:21
  Speaker 14: the time they will behave, They'll learn better, they'll be
• 37:24
  Speaker 14: more engaged, and teachers will also thrive andrew because when
• 37:29
  Speaker 14: they have evidence based teaching materials, less in plans, which
• 37:33
  Speaker 14: show them how to teach, what to teach, and give
• 37:36
  Speaker 14: them all the tools that they need, then teachers are
• 37:39
  Speaker 14: so much happier as well, and they, as I say,
• 37:42
  Speaker 14: excel in the classroom. So there's been a generation of
• 37:46
  Speaker 14: students that have been let down and that dramatically and
• 37:50
  Speaker 14: urgently needs to change.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: I was strapped by the fact that children from overseas
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: born parents migrants are doing better on our ridge than
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: children born from families here. So it seems a very
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: local problem and maybe a cultural problem. And you look
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: at Chinese students. The Chinese culture tends to really stress education.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: The Indian culture is also get up and go list
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: from the diaspora, I wonder what's going on here. I
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: noticed that some of the good results, like you know
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: in Taiwan, in China and Finland that continue, you know,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: that really impress the culture. The classrooms tend to be
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: more culturally homogeneous. I wonder if that's a factor.
• 38:31
  Speaker 14: Too well, Andrew, Look, let me just draw the example
• 38:36
  Speaker 14: of mars And Road Primary School in western Sydney, led
• 38:40
  Speaker 14: by a magnificent principle. Her name is Mansha Gazola. She
• 38:43
  Speaker 14: started at the school about five or six years ago.
• 38:47
  Speaker 14: Looked at the results. Most of the children are from
• 38:50
  Speaker 14: low sees families, they are from non English speaking backgrounds.
• 38:55
  Speaker 14: She transformed the school with evidence based teaching. The children
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  Speaker 14: walk in lines to the library, They are taught how
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  Speaker 14: to behave. If the children are late for school, the
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  Speaker 14: parents are told off. She stands at the front gate
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  Speaker 14: and said, that's not good enough, that does not meet
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  Speaker 14: our expectations. And these kids are thriving. Their nat Plan
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  Speaker 14: results have now completely turned around. They're now above the
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  Speaker 14: New South Wales average. And these are some of you know,
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  Speaker 14: really from kids from really struggling families, which goes to
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  Speaker 14: show that when you have the best evidence based teaching
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  Speaker 14: in the classroom, when you are when children are taught
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  Speaker 14: based on the science of reading and learning, then they
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  Speaker 14: thrive and their outcomes well, the discipline are not determined
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  Speaker 14: by their post park.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's preaching failure to the poor that the education.
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  Speaker 2: Mister did. I love your example.
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  Speaker 3: I'll ask, if you don't mind, my producer in the breakthrough,
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: get the name of that principle from you, because I
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: think that's that's a great story.
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  Speaker 2: Sarah Henderson, thank you.
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  Speaker 14: So much for you She's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks Andrew.
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  Speaker 3: It is well, I'll chase it after the break Senator
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: just internamp Jumper Price on people using racism as an excuse.
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  Speaker 2: I see.
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  Speaker 3: The Albanize governments is such chaos now, it's like the
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: going Whitlam government. And speaking of you know, I just
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: can't figure out where the premise is going with the
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: two other things in the Ularu statement that he solemnly
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: promised to deliver. There was the voice that was lost
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: in the referendum last year. But what about the truth
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: and treaty on his T shirt, which is short for
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: the Macarata Commission that was meant to deliver them both
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: that Albany's even funded to get off the ground now
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: refuses to give a straight answer. Is this Macarata Commission
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: now dead or is it still his dream?
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  Speaker 2: Who knows?
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Joined me is the Opposition's Indigenous Astrands spokesman, Senator just
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: internam for Jumper Price Jasin to thank you so much
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: for your time. Before I get I've got to ask
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: you about the news of the day. The big news
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: the government not banning Palastini refugees from Gaza so they
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: like AMAUS the terrorist group, or even checking them properly. Now,
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: your leader Peter Dunton said today, well we can't check
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: refugee from Gaza properly, let's take none at all. But
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: laboring p Josh Burn said, oh that's racist. He said,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Australia doesn't have a race based immigration policy.
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  Speaker 3: Has been a long time since we had one. We
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: should never go back. But is it really racist to
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: say that palacins from terrorists controlled Garza can't come unless
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: we can do proper security checks.
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  Speaker 11: But what's evident is that this government, when they know
• 41:41
  Speaker 11: they're doing the wrong thing, they pull out the race
• 41:43
  Speaker 11: card or some kind of card along those terms. It's
• 41:46
  Speaker 11: not good enough to do so when we're talking about
• 41:49
  Speaker 11: the security of our country and the safety of our citizens.
• 41:52
  Speaker 11: I stand right beside our leader Peter Dutton in suggesting
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  Speaker 11: that we don't accept anybody coming from what we know
• 42:00
  Speaker 11: is an active war zone which is governed by a
• 42:05
  Speaker 11: listed terror organization.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it's all about.
• 42:09
  Speaker 11: It's about ensuring that the Australian citizens are protected and
• 42:13
  Speaker 11: that the right checks and balances are put in place
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  Speaker 11: before we allow anybody into our country, and particularly right now,
• 42:21
  Speaker 11: the security situation is to stabilize before we even consider it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Josh Burns should bone up on what he means
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: by racism. What race is he talking about. We're not
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: banning Palestinians from Syria, We're not banning Palestinians from Jordan.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: We're not banning Palestinians from Lebanon.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Or America or wherever. Just Gaza, get that in your head.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: But talking about race matters, the Abanize government saying whether
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: we'll go ahead with the Macaratei Commission, which is meant
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: to negotiate a treaty. The ABC Show isn't happy to
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: center and today ran more propaganda and s am program
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: that we needed a trol even deeper about our pars,
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: sins real or exactly so that Aboriginal stress could finally
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: get on with their lives as a taste of it.
• 43:05
  Speaker 15: Barajeri man Dinnawang Jerrebeg, also known as Uncle Bill Allen,
• 43:09
  Speaker 15: says the violent massacres, rapes and murders were wiped from
• 43:13
  Speaker 15: the history books and the experiences of his ancestors were ignored.
• 43:18
  Speaker 15: They keep telling us there's never been a war foot
• 43:20
  Speaker 15: on this land. Well it has, Auntie Leanna Carr says
• 43:23
  Speaker 15: Barajeri people today are still feeling the impacts of the violence.
• 43:28
  Speaker 11: We inherit a transgenerational trauma from colonization.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: You're a sponsor to that jacenta.
• 43:37
  Speaker 11: There is certainly crisis is occurring all over the country,
• 43:42
  Speaker 11: but particularly in our most regional and remote parts of
• 43:45
  Speaker 11: the country, where there are indigenous children who are suffering,
• 43:51
  Speaker 11: who aren't getting the same sorts of opportunities as certainly
• 43:56
  Speaker 11: many in other.
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  Speaker 1: Parts of the country.
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  Speaker 11: And that is where our focus be in the present
• 44:00
  Speaker 11: and looking toward the future. Absolutely, I've always been one
• 44:05
  Speaker 11: to accept history and its nuances but that's what we
• 44:09
  Speaker 11: need to do. I think, you know, we can take
• 44:11
  Speaker 11: an educational approach in understanding our history in its entirety
• 44:16
  Speaker 11: to create understanding, but not for the purpose of what
• 44:19
  Speaker 11: the left is trying to do, trying to weaponize it
• 44:21
  Speaker 11: against other extrams, because politics has been stifling, continues to
• 44:26
  Speaker 11: be stifling and doesn't help anybody to progress forward, which
• 44:30
  Speaker 11: is what I believe the Macarata Commission is actually designed
• 44:34
  Speaker 11: to do.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 3: Also, this idea of intergenerational traul when we can't get
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: over unless we keep happing about the past. It's trapping
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: people's preaching helplessness. I mean Jews have been able having
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: to get over so to speak, the Holocaust.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: I mean it's in their memory, they remember it.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: It generates a lot of you know, awareness, yet it
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: hasn't crippled them montlely financially getting ahead.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: In the world you've got.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: You can't keep using things like this to stop you
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: looking to the future. Now, speaking of this preaching of
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: helplessness the education mister Jason Claire mentioned earlier in the
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: show his response to the NAP planned tests, you know,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: showing average school children struggling more than most reading and
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: writing on average, you know, saying, oh, you know, skin
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: color was the issue here. Your chances in life shouldn't
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: depend on your parents, pay packet or the color of
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: your skin. But I look at you just said, have
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: you felt that your success at school depended on the
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: color of your skin?
• 45:36
  Speaker 11: Look to the very contrary. You know, both my parents
• 45:39
  Speaker 11: are teachers. You know, my mother is still working in
• 45:42
  Speaker 11: the education space and taught to me that education is
• 45:46
  Speaker 11: very important, but it belongs to all of us, no
• 45:49
  Speaker 11: matter what our heritage is. I mean, I heard Jason
• 45:52
  Speaker 11: Claire speak at an AIF Foundation graduation one year and
• 45:58
  Speaker 11: those students motto for themselves and I've heard them say
• 46:02
  Speaker 11: it is to maintain a high standard for themselves, high expectations.
• 46:06
  Speaker 11: What he did when he gave his speech is he
• 46:08
  Speaker 11: basically told them all that they are all victims because
• 46:10
  Speaker 11: of the color of their skin, which I thought was
• 46:12
  Speaker 11: utterly atrocious. And that's part of the reason why, you know,
• 46:16
  Speaker 11: we're not actually recognizing what it is that is keeping
• 46:19
  Speaker 11: some of our most marginalized kids behind the eight Well.
• 46:21
  Speaker 11: I mean, let's face it, Australia kids in general are
• 46:24
  Speaker 11: falling behind in education and it's the education minister's job
• 46:28
  Speaker 11: to actually do something practical about this, so I look
• 46:32
  Speaker 11: seriously and look at what the real causes are instead
• 46:35
  Speaker 11: of just painting it about it making it a race issue.
• 46:38
  Speaker 11: It just demonstrates's completely out of touch.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: Offer inspiration, not excuses. I think you're really senators, just
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: into the gent price, always informative and great to talk
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: to you.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Thank you for your time. And one last thing.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: I know there's been a lot on this subject, but
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: what we've seen today proved who what's happening in Europe
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: is also happening here. Immigration huge issue has been bungled
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: by for years by governments of both persuasions. Some of
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: the results are both ugly and almost unfixable here, for
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: instand the Albanies, the governments led in an amazing one
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: point one five million immigrants in just two and a
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: half years, and look at the housing crisis. And more
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: than that, I mean, so many people think mass immigration
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: multiculture them multiculturals have left them less safe and living
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: in communities are now too crowded and seeming to lack
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: mutual trust. Now obviously here Britain is a big warning
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: and there's been another shocking example involving in Australian to
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: tell you just why now, I've covered the riots in
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Britain over the last week by mostly working class bide
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: angry men at the angry at the murder or using
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: as an excuse the murder of three little girls allegedly
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: by the Sun for wandered immigrants many believe racist social
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: media posts fossibly blaming Muslims. Well, there's been a lot
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: of hardline policing, tough set sentences for the rioters, all that,
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: but the anger is still bubbling in. Just this week,
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: another girl, an Australian girl out with a mum, just
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: been confirmed by default astrains from New South Wales. This
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: girl was stabbed at least eight times in the popular
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: Leicester Square in London, badly hurt. The man charged with
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: the crime, a Romanian immigrant, have no fixed address, said
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: to be mentally unwell. This is after Romanian Roman people
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: in Leeds last month also rioted when social welfare workers
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: removed the child at risk. Trouble is brewing not just
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: in Australia or Britain. The strains are now getting hurt.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Here's another one. You can't just frighten people into silence
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: about this. You've got to, as a responsible politician, address it.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: That's it from me. Coming up now is Sherry Markson,
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  Speaker 2: Goodnight