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Graig Paglieri - Service First Fatherhood Lessons From A Marine & CEO · Quarterback DadCast | Intentional Fatherhood & Leadership at Home

• 0:03
  SPEAKER_01: I'm writing and I'm writer.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is my dad.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_03: Hey everybody, it's KCJOps with the quarterback.
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  SPEAKER_03: Can't wait for this season that's a lot of great guests to have.
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  SPEAKER_03: If we do this podcast, really it's simple.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's a podcast where we interview that.
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  SPEAKER_03: We learn about how they were raised.
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  SPEAKER_03: We learn about the life levels that were important.
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  SPEAKER_03: We learn about the values that were formed up.
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  SPEAKER_03: And really we learn about how we can work hard to become a better quarterback or leader of our home.
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  SPEAKER_03: So let's sit back, relax, and let's look at today's episode of quarterback jackets.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_03: Everybody, it's Jason J.
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  SPEAKER_03: Cox with the quarterback in season seven.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_03: And if if I say this next guest was hard to get, I mean I went through multiple agents at an NIL deal with this guy.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but he finally said yes.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_03: And Joe decides in Greg Bagliari, and I've known him for 10 years.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_03: Spent a lot of time with him at Ron Side.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh he's now the CEO of Alliance.
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  SPEAKER_03: We're gonna learn about.
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  SPEAKER_03: The guy's a U.S.
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  SPEAKER_03: Marine.
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  SPEAKER_03: So thank you for your service.
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  SPEAKER_03: He's a father, he's a golfer, he's a BC Lion, but more importantly, he's a dad.
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  SPEAKER_03: And we're gonna learn about how Greg's working hard to become the ultimate quarterback or leader of his household without further doom.
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  SPEAKER_03: Larry, welcome, quarterback.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Casey.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm really, really excited to be here.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh I've been a big uh fan over the years, so excited that we can make this happen.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's gonna be fun.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_03: Well, as we joked before we start recording, it's always fun when you when you know somebody, but then uh a podcast, or but you don't need a podcast to have these types of conversations, dads at home.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_03: You just need a little intent.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, but I'm excited to learn more about you and hopefully have some dad therapy.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_03: Um but anyway, we always start out each episode with gratitude.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_03: So tell me, what are you most grateful for as a dad today?
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_01: I am grateful that I get to see both of my uh college-age children this weekend.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_01: Uh our son's moving in for his junior year, and my wife and I are gonna get him settled in, and then our daughter's gearing up for her final grad school year.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_01: They're both in the city of Austin, so we'll mix in great local uh happenings as well, actually dipping down to uh Cape Cod for a day or two before we head back.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_01: So running out of some of these uh cool uh milestones and experiences with our kids.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna make sure I'm taking this all in.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_03: Well said.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_03: Well, we are recording in as of August 24th.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_03: Um and in less than a week, I'm gonna be an empty nester, man.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_03: And um I'm grateful for a lot.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_03: And then as we start recording, I'm fortunately, Greg and I lost a friend we used to work with.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I'm gonna give a shout out to Paul Williams, uh Rest in Peace, brother.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, I found out news today.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_03: He passed away.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm silly as he says, I'm grateful to be alive.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_03: I'm grateful that um I get to see my kids this week.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_03: And funny how in those moments in life they really stalk in your track sometimes and kind of remembers what's important.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_03: Even more sillier, I had up my club championship this weekend.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_02: Played horrible.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_02: I went 83, 79.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_03: But pretty good numbers.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, not bad.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_03: But I mean, for a four handicap, it's not ideal.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_03: And but it's the night before though, I walked we Ryder and I got we got Domino's pizza and I went and picked it up.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_03: He was on his way home from work.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_03: And right by the Domino's, there's a laundromat.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_03: And I walked by the laundromat, and I just and I for some reason, I don't know why, but I stopped and I just looked at the all the people in there.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_03: And all I f I had this like weird, like kind of spiritual thing hit me.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just like, man, freaking pretty lucky, dude.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_03: You have a washer and dryer in your house.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_03: You know, and it's like sometimes we get whether busy as dads or moms or whatever we are out there, we get so wrapped up in the shit that's not important.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_03: And so I use that as my mindset all weekend.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_03: Like there was times I had horrendous lipouts, I had some bad breaks.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_03: All I said was, I got a washer and dryer.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_03: And I kind of giggled at myself, but it just I don't know, it's a good reminder of just like life ain't that bad, man.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_02: I'm with you.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_02: I am with you.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, okay, so I always like now asking how you and your lovely bride met, and then tell us a little bit more about the team huddle.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_03: What both your what both your kids are up to right now?
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_01: So uh my wife and I, Allison, we just actually celebrated our 29th wedding anniversary a couple weeks ago.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but you'd probably have to tack on another five or six years of knowing each other, dating each other.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_01: We started like within the first couple weeks of freshman year college, and um it's been all perfect bliss and happiness uh every moment of every day since then.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_01: No, not exactly.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_01: It's uh you know, we were best friends right out of the gate, and uh we've been uh very fortunate to be with each other, and she's probably the biggest sponsor, advocate, uh supporter, you know, of everything for me and my career when I was in the Marines.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um so we got we got a lot of great history together, and then we got two great kids uh that are uh you know finishing up their kind of advanced education and uh already have had some internships and hoping to hit the business world.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_02: So cool.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_02: So cool.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_03: Um all right.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_03: Well, bring me back to what was life like growing up for you.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_03: I love to learn about the impact mom and dad had on had on you, um, specifically from like a values perspective.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, yeah.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_01: Instrumental.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um and couldn't ask for better examples.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_01: My um both my parents were teachers, uh, which if we fast forward to kind of where I am in my career, which I'm sure we'll cover at some point, that had a big impact on my desire to make uh my most recent change.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but um if I start with my dad, um he was a teacher, and even more so, he was a coach.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_01: He coached uh not only most of my teams, but he coached high school teams, uh varsity teams, varsity hockey.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_01: Uh he coached a lot of JV football at a very good school for a long time, had pros come out of it in Nurshell, New York.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um and so I mean he was consumed with service uh to the students, school, the community, and I saw that.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_01: And then, of course, for me, all his priorities were either family or you know, the community, essentially.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_01: And then he was also a hustler um every summer.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_01: He ran the food concession at a private beach club that you know we probably wouldn't have even really been able to afford, but he ran uh this you know summer operation and crazy hours, uh, really hard work.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_01: But the biggest blessing of all was since I was 13 years old, probably before I even had actual work papers, uh, you know, that's where I worked every summer, and that's where all my friends work.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_01: And we in many ways, my dad was a second father to many of my buddies.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_01: Uh my grandfather was involved, and I just learned so much about hard work, service, sacrifice.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, couldn't have had a more front row seat.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_01: And my mom, similarly as a teacher, but then she was really a stay-at-home mom for my sister and I growing up in uh suburban New York City.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, very, you know, solid middle class.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, but he also was super involved with the church.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_01: So when she wasn't taking care of us or you know, getting us where we needed to be, she was also so engaged and involved uh with the community and the Catholic Church and running the education program uh for um for our parish.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_01: So all of this, you know, I remember all through you know grade school and high school and even into college, uh, all in the same town of uh Pelham, New York.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_01: What were your sports growing up?
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_01: My main one was ice hockey.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, but played everything, but that was you know where I had the most success and the most like commitment.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_01: But of course, back in those days too, it was still kind of before totally isolated and prioritized, specialized.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, I always played basketball and football and baseball.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um and then, you know, as I got further along, hockey did become more important.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I played uh tennis a bit competitively too, got into golf, you know, probably in that like early high school time frame.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um so love all that.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_01: I was probably one of the best wiffle ball players and uh came out of the state of New York too, uh both pitching and hitting.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_01: So you know there's still some stats that are recorded from uh some of some of my buddies.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe he'll sign a ball for me one day.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, definitely.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_01: Definitely.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um okay, so hard work.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_03: You saw you saw the teacher and him, the coaching them, and both your parents, but you're coaching your dad, like from a I guess.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_03: Talk to me about like what is if there's a story that comes to mind on where you learned like that those those hard work moments, other than just you know, obviously working long hours, um, or maybe a way of he showed service that went kind of like as you reflect, is there was there a moment or a story that really is like, wow, that that's what service looks like.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's yeah, I mean there's there's so many, but you know, there's a couple.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, well, first on the on the service side, um I remember probably being you know a bit of a of a smart aleck, you know, 13 or 14-year-old or something like that, and probably saying something, you know, to my dad around uh, you know, gosh, I don't know.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_01: We might have even been saying what, you know, let's go play nine holes or something like that after work, which he which he would do from time to time.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_01: But I remember him saying, you know, just you know, be mindful of you know your viewpoints and and you know, until you gain some perspective or until you you know kind of walk in someone else's uh mockery, I remember him saying, as an old expression.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, he would say from time to time, and I think it kind of hit me probably as I got a little bit older, and I was, you know, with him opening up at six o'clock in the morning and you know, closing down on some weekends on a Saturday, you know, in uh the around the 4th of July, um when a lot of other you know, friends or family even are you know going to firework shows and we're walking off just exhausted um and just hoping to get home and get to bed before we got to be back in and you know again Sunday morning, and um you know him never complaining um and me seeing it, right?
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_01: And then actually then meeting up with my mom and my sister to go out to dinner or go to a barbecue when it's like I there's no way physically you know he could possibly be up to this.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um and you know, his commitment in this case was um look, I wanna I want to be able to send my my children to private schools.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um I want to be able to have you know a couple extra bucks to do some things, and that's gonna require this level of commitment.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I think then the other part, I would say the services, you know, he the relationship he built with the club members.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um I I know for a fact some of them, many of them wrote college recommendations for my sister and I.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah, you know, these are people though that he's you know serving um in a customer relationship, and it was just amazing.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_01: It was attitude, um, and the the the the the trust and confidence and friendship even that he gained, but it was it was a working, you know, service type relationship, which definitely you know fast forward into my career played an impact.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_01: Is now mom and dad still with us?
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_01: My dad is not.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_01: No, he um he passed away uh in uh July of 2019.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_01: Uh he had a really unfortunate battle with uh prostate cancer for for many years.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um and um that was that was real lousy because you know he's not quite 72 years old even.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um he was a little shy of that birthday.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_01: And um, but my mom is my mom's still going strong.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um and and uh but it's been tough.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they also would an example uh of them and what best friends they were and uh how much they meant, have all the experiences and joy they had together.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so that's been pretty tough for my mom, for sure.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_03: Well sorry to hear about that.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_03: My um I lost my pops December 29, 2021.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_03: Um got a picture of them here next next to the desk.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_03: Big Micah shot out here.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_03: This is Uncle Rico here.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I've seen that picture.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, back in the day.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_03: Um and uh I always tell people if you're and your parents are alive, man, is is sometimes they all parents we just like we I annoy my kids, my mom's uh wrestling, my mom's still with us, but she annoys me at times, but we're all flawed humans, everybody, and have some grace for for one another sometimes.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_03: Um when did you uh when did you realize service and from uh I mean going into the service was on in your in your plan from a military perspective?
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of um, you know, I I I think it's it's also kind of like when you grow up.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we're we're not too I'm I'm a little bit older than you, but I think, you know, if you grew up in the in the early you know 80s, there's a lot of patriotism uh in TV and sport.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_01: Uh you know, we just won the gold medal again in hockey and you know, go back to 1980 and what that was, so beating the Russians.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and I also so I think there's there's a bit of that um kind of framing and also family.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_01: My grandfathers were all in World War II, and my father was not, um, but it was a very kind of just known thing that you know there's quite a bit of honor in serving your country, or you gotta be ready if you're asked to, and um how important it is.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, it wasn't it didn't um I didn't have it completely wired that I was definitely gonna do it, but it was just very much in my mind that you know, hey, that could be out there um if it was the right fit.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I just happened to be in my sophomore starting my sophomore year of college, and it was one of those like every school has.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: It was a beautiful sunny early fall day, and all the different um uh group um and organizations that you could join and club.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_01: And one of them was what's called uh platoon leader class, PLC for the Marine Corps.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_01: And I I just assumed it was something like ROTC, but I quickly found out it wasn't.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um and it was a little bit more of a smaller amount of you know slots or opportunities, but if you but if you got one, um it was an opportunity to go directly to Officer Canada school while you were in college.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and then from there, before you know, as you graduate, get commissioned uh as a second lieutenant uh in the Marine Corps.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_01: So it was actually goes back to Vietnam and it was designed in in this way, and uh it just turned out to be a perfect fit.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so it was in my head, it was in my thoughts.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_01: I thought it would be you know really great to get that experience.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: I I never had a plan to say I was gonna do my whole career or a lengthy career, let's say, but I knew it would be a great place to kind of start off and and learn and be challenged, and man, it really paid off.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: Why why was it a good fit?
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_01: I um we talked about sports.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_01: You're you know, I we've had a lot of conversations about the importance of of sports and you know, or a quarterback being a captain, right?
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_01: I was quite often in leadership roles, you know, on the sports teams I was on, and um and then went to a school where I I wasn't at the caliber to play that level, you know, of hockey, um, or any other Division I sports.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and it was like, wow, like it really hit me between the eyes though, just even after like a year not having that connection, not having that bond, not having that camaraderie team responsibility.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I was loving school um and I was doing fun stuff, but there was this void.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_01: And I think when you mix in this idea of, okay, wait a second, I am interested in serving my country.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: I do want to start thinking about what is what does it look like after college, and I get to be part of this organization that very quickly learning to admire and respect, and that's really where the fit came from.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_02: Hmm, interesting.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, do you still play hockey?
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: I do.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_01: I do.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a couple uh it there's uh every uh every three months there's a new season.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_01: It's uh I I I can completely committed that I was only gonna do over 50 hockey.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_01: So a few years ago, um uh one of my buddies down in Tampa, you know, I got a bunch of play, but he's like, gotta do it, it's perfect, come on out.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_01: And uh it's very much pure league hockey.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um I've s I've I've experienced it on the ice and thought, you know, felt pretty good about what was happening, and then I've seen a video, and there's no reason for anybody else to see what's happening out there because I don't know that it's really hockey, except for like a few guys.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_01: It it's rough.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: But it's awesome to get out there um and you know, compete and sweat and then laugh and you know have a couple beers and some wings afterwards.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_03: There we go.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um my son's uh best buddy just committed to um he he did the junior route forever.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_03: And he left like in high school to go live with the Billet family, so he was in like New Hampshire, and then he went to Idaho, Wyoming, and now he just committed to play D3.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_03: He's gonna play golf and um hockey at a like something scholactic up in Duluth, Minnesota.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_01: There's a lot up there.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_01: That's some that's a real deal.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_03: But he uh we're like since we didn't have hockey, we never I don't know how to skate, I don't know how to play hockey other than like floor hockey as a kid, but man, we are diehard cracking fans.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_03: I knew, I figured you'd be into that.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_03: It's so funny.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_03: It is like my favorite sport to watch, I think, and I got in some some friendly banter with some buddies.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_03: I'm convinced that I think NHL players are the best athletes on the planet.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: They are up there.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: There's no question about it.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_03: Just the there's so many things that can look going on.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_03: A lot.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_03: Um thinking about everything your mom and dad taught you, thinking about your your journey in the service, like what were the some of the biggest things that you you took out of those experiences um that you've applied to your dad life?
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: I think there's a couple that come to mind.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I think there's times where I look back at situations and I'm actually pretty pleased with my uh my patience or calmness, you know, in uh how things are you know unfolding at work or with your family or with your kids.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_01: And I think back to especially my time in the Marines, you know, learning to manage a lot of different types of change and stressors or confusion or fog, right?
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_01: And uh keep your head up and be calm and you know not overreact.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I wish I could say I was a hundred percent effective at that, but I think they're that's so important, you know, as a dad, especially as a young dad.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: Probably gotten a little crankier and and not as patient uh as as I've gotten older and my kids have gotten older, believe it or not.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, that comes to mind for sure.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_03: What about um what would you say is the the the most rewarding part of being a dad so far?
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's just um when you have you know and and you've got a son and a daughter, and I've got a son and a daughter, and you know they're they're unique.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but just that you've got as much as we put into caring and loving and you know, thinking about them, you know, the way that they look at us right as as dad um and admire you know I think us and then the need to live up to that or you know to see how important you know we are in their in their lives from you know two years old to twenty you know four um and that's kind of the strength to me of how important it is um because I can still you know remember the questions that you know you get from your kids and they want to talk about your job or they want to talk about your experiences or certainly with me and the Marines and they're just you know eyes you know are like this and wide open and um it's just it's it's so special.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_01: And then you know again living up to that responsibility.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah it's um there interviewing nearly 380 dads so far I mean it's been so cool to see so many similarities challenges with patience is one of the the biggest things that always comes up um to you know it's not what we say but what they what we show so we can say all these things but their kids are watching more than we think.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_03: I mean it's like I have so many of my friends are like dude Jacob's writers like you and like same dumb jokes same silliness um you know thankfully he's getting better golf lessons from someone else because like you know get get some better better swing tip but um but it's it's so true how you know just I don't know just the just the the journey of it is and and the cliche of how fast it goes.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_03: I mean I'm gonna be an MPNester in five days I can't believe when I talk to younger dads I'm like man enjoy it enjoy it embrace the grind embrace the insanity of it at times and but one of my favorite things I learned on this experience podcaster is you know it's it is whether you look at a being a marine or CEO of Scient, the most important job you have is a dad and yet there's no test.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_03: Nope.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_03: You just you're you just get this amazing huge responsibility without and they hope there's no manual.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_03: And you you hope and I what I've been telling people recently they're like how you getting ready for empty nest I'm like I am you know I'm gonna I'm gonna be sad because I love seeing four cars in the garage not two and you know Carrie and I are gonna have a blast but you want to be wanted but you if but you don't want to be wanted because that means you've not done a good enough job creating independence.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah you know such a a balance of it but um what's been the hardest part for you as a dad I think it's um it's it's it's it's prioritizing and balancing time right with um pretty big commitments at work um and understanding kind of what it takes you know to sacrifice and and and be successful and and contribute to all your your responsibilities and constituents in that part of your life um but ensuring that you know your children and your family aren't getting pushed down that list um and there's probably you know there's moments where it happens um but I think the the key is just you know not letting it get out of whack um and and identifying it and resetting it.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_01: You know there's times where an example would be you know maybe I'm I'm I'm out for the whole week or I've been traveling and it's been really busy at work and the tempo's crazy and you know then I got a bunch of buddies saying oh man we're gonna have you know we're gonna have an awesome Saturday we got we're playing we got two foursoms and we're we got these matches going and you know PAGs going to and it's like can't do it.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: You know it's and it and it might not even of course if there was if we were going to like our son's lacrosse you know things like that then it's even it's already off the table but it might be like hey you know what we're gonna we're gonna hang out and you know we're gonna go work out or we're gonna you know go visit with some family and just making sure that sometimes you gotta do that check.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_01: And then there's been times where you know I I don't do it as well.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_01: So it's it's it's just that prioritization and not losing sight of what's most important.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_03: It's good to a man I hope there's a younger dad listening um you got two 50 year olds here on this podcast.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_03: And uh it's funny that's timely because my wife and I were talking about it's interesting when you're curious like truly curious dads and you want to really know how someone feels like so my my wife and I talked about because we love golf too and golf is a it's a five hour if you get there for a pregame cocktail with breakfast maybe have a post-round watching film of the round that's right sometimes six hours if I'm being if we're honest with ourselves.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_03: So now my wife doesn't golf a ton doesn't golf at all and I'm hoping she gets into it as we get into the Santa journey but like we're we're saying she's like sometimes like if we've got nothing going on I'm like oh hey see I might go play golf.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_03: She goes well sometimes it's no win because I don't want to say no and I love she goes I love you play golf but sometimes I want you to say hey don't even what like just hey let's just hang around the house and shoot the you know what or let's let's go take a walk or let's yeah let's go for a hike or let's you know and sometimes I think we get going so fast uh and with our whatever job you have and I think it's good to have hobbies.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's also good to sometimes check yourself and just say put her first.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah you know and um imagine what that would do for whatever you know the relationship mindset um and or go out of your way dads if we're busy and if you get home from work like sometimes simple things like what just asking hey how can I help or you find that if there's something needs to be done go do it dishwasher laundry whatever absolutely when you talk about too our uh our age and experience of being husbands and dads I mean I got this advice a long time ago and it's it's just so on point and it's being a great listener um and not thinking you gotta have a response or an answer or a suggestion or uh and think about how that carries over into the business world right you're one of the best I've ever seen in how to interact with uh with customers with buyers and you know and it does start with a lot of you running your mouth and I think same thing with when it's your kids or your wife um just they want you to they just want you to hear something I always like to even like in this journey that coaching that found me that I did not mean to get into I always before I if I say something I say do I have permission to coach so it and it's like when you can even with like your kids I'll say hey can I tear can I tell you a story where I want through that or do you want my opinion or do you want me just to listen?
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah because it's easy yeah it's easy we want to like react and tell them how smart we are and all these things but they might they might be dad go If yourself not ready to listen to it yet and my wife might be saying the same thing.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah well then they tune out yeah yeah exactly the old the old two ears and one mouth is there for a reason everybody um if you were to think about like the values that drive your family and that you and Alison are probably most proud of your kids um if you had to pick three that like man I'm our kids are one two and three tell me what comes to mind well I think they are I think they're highly responsible uh I've been really proud and pleased to see that um they are um motivated uh there's no you know I I remember you know either just having friends or or other you know hearing stories you know where it's just hard to get their kids uh off the couch or you know thinking about the future you know we don't have that as um and then I think they're uh they're uh interest in in in in being spiritual um you know with without n necessarily always setting the perfect example um I think the fact that that's important to them uh is really something that I love to say yeah it's um I think I think when we when we s when we see those things it's obviously it's not luck it's what the work of you and Allison.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_03: Um I used to always giggle people say man you're so lucky your kids are so well behaved I'm like lucky that's funny that's great that is so true you know it's like my I used to have a buddy that would be like oh I can't take my kids out to dinner they act like idiots I go well how do they act at home at the dinner table?
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_03: You let them get up and down every three seconds I said that's on you bro I mean I'm trying to help you like or even how they if you know if there's a younger dad listening like don't order for your kids.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_03: Make them order for themselves that was like simple advice someone gave me that just dramatically changes their conflict introducing yourself handshake you know greetings uh such a big deal yeah and it does I think it's it's easy to want to go um do this for them I read a book called um I've said this before in a couple other episodes of um by guy named Swen Nader and the book was called You Have Not Taught Until They Have Learned and uh I I don't know about you but when we went through the COVID shenanigans we were Carrie and I realized man we're doing too much for our kids like too much.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_03: And it just made me realize like wow and then we went like cold turkey went almost the opposite way about like making them do everything.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_03: And now they're like short order cook true you know um you talked about m being responsible and and motivated um is there a story that comes to mind when you say that that makes you really proud as a dad well I would say you know both my kids I I I you know really worked hard in high school and it you know it wasn't uh it wasn't just easy for them.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_01: I mean they I would say good students for sure um but you know both ended up having I think really good like focused uh university experiences uh that they you know really powered and and developed and you know engineered for themselves uh our our son was looking at everything from the Naval Academy to small schools for sports and up in the Northeast or all over and and then you know ended up going to uh Boston College uh where my wife and I went and a lot of our other family members um and playing club playing a club sport but you know really kind of figured it out so I think about responsible did we help absolutely but you know so much it it doesn't materialize and it's similar with our daughter she graduated during COVID from high school and you know she was looking at schools in New York NYU is an example um and other similar ones and it was like well how's this for um you're you're not even gonna go there for you know at least a year um or who knows and you know then ends up getting into a specialized program in her field and you know goes FSU and then now is at grad school and sorority so it's like you know uh to me taking kind of taking command and control of your whether it's you know whether you're a school your job and then your passions and your friends and you know your things you do you know all these extracurriculars um that me that that to me takes like responsibility and motivation um and and then it pays off I think your experience hello everybody my name's Craig Coe and I'm the senior vice president of relationship management for Beeline.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_00: For more than 20 years we've been helping Fortune 1000 companies drive a competitive advantage with their external workforce.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_00: In fact Beeline's history of first to market innovations has become today's industry standards.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_00: I get asked all the time what did Casey do for your organization?
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_00: And I say this it's simple the guy Flat Out gets it relationships matter.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_00: His down-to-earth presentation his real-world experience applied to every area of our business in fact his book Win the Relationship and Not the Deal has become required reading for all new members of the Global Relationship management team.
• 35:45
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• 35:51
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• 35:58
  SPEAKER_00: Now let's get back to today's episode.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_03: I love those um those reflection points or those teaching moments when you see like the advice or wisdom you're trying to communicate your kids and then when they actually apply it to work and that or they apply it in their whatever it is and I I think as Shreddy Riley our daughter she's going through a her knee recovery right now.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_03: And um there's a former coach and he's like one of my most loyalist coach you make if you're listening brother appreciate you he I remember when I was in high school like and he would talk to me about like hard work and you know right now you're kind of you're you're not the starter but if you want to be the starter these are all the these are all the sacrifices you're gonna have to make and you know if you want to go to the lake you're gonna have to go weight room before you want to go lake then start you gotta you gotta find out if this is if you become a starting quarterback is what you want to do you're gonna have to figure out ways to get all the other stuff you want in.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_03: And so like my daughter and I had this moment recently where she was getting ready to go shopping for um college stuff and she was going to be gone from like 10 to 4.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_03: We knew she wasn't going to want to work out when she got home and so instead of telling her she I I said I go tell me about your your work your workout rehab plan this week.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_03: And uh she said whatever and I go so is is tomorrow rest day or tell me what you're thinking.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_03: She's like well thinking about it I go you want my thoughts or do you want to are you good?
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_03: She's like no what I go what do you think?
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_03: I go well coming from an injury and you know my coach used to tell me this thing so if it was me here's your choices you can sleep until 9 and then leave at 10 to go shopping or you get up at 730 and um my my first call is not torn out till 830.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_03: So if you need a uh someone rebound for you I'm here if not that's cool too.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_03: This is your journey not mine but I'm just giving you some things to think about the next morning I was up early already and I see her come downstairs at like 725 with her workout gear on.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah oh it was like those are the moments and people might there might be someone at home oh you're trying to manipulate her no I'm not I'm trying these are the goals she told me to work her and it's my job to either help her get there but when she owned it and then we still gotta so like I'm winning because she's staying in good health and I gotta go rebound work for her which is great dad and daughter time.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_02: That's exactly right.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_03: You know and what a great way for me to start my day selfishly.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_01: I think I mean I can remember exact like almost identical type scenarios where you know shared and then hey you know here's something to think about or here's here's what I might might consider doing.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_01: I always felt there was like a 48 hour rule because like even though that did click it like it wasn't going to happen like next day but then like two days later you'd see the same thing.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like okay great well at least they at least they took yeah exactly how did you um get into the wide role of staffing well the same way everyone else does I uh I I majored in it in uh college and I was I was recruited uh into it no um I was one of those two that like I didn't know what staffing was and what what I thought it was something totally different.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um you know in fact I I kind of thumbed my nose at it because I started after uh grad I went uh after the Marines I went full time to grad school and then I went into management consulting and love love the you know the services you know aspect and and being in a professional services organization and helping clients solve their problems and but it's you know really people working in a contingent manner for a client um and getting different types of experiences and moving on uh but then I ended up going to a company that called professional K4's professional staffing and had some ways it was similar to consulting in some ways it was very different but I went I joined there uh through a reference um also with a desire to be closer to uh at that time Florida as we were starting our family um and my wife's family was there and kind of we've gone I was kind of like I don't know I kind of like maybe give this Florida idea a try you know rather than uh the Northeast or we were living in Atlanta and uh so kind of had a geography thing but then I'll go over to this place I know some people over there kind of some of some of it's like salting and they're gonna do some MA because it's right around when they were doing the uh Hulkinian deal and um and maybe you know and I I was kind of being brought in to do more like strategic work.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_01: So that's kind of just what got me into staffing but I I thought it was like Robert Half temp you know or um administrative you know type support uh and then obviously 20 something years later I've worked in a whole bunch of different all kinds of different parts of that yeah when did your kids first understand what you do uh you try to do the whole can you explain it to like a five year old and I think they they latch on to the more of like a headhunting you know type of a thing oh you find people a job and you help the person I think it took you know maybe uh until middle school or high school to get the sense of no we're really working for you know clients and we're helping them with you know this whole people solution and it's this you know bigger uh equation but um I think they always just gotta say oh dad you know helps people find jobs at a pretty young age.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah my uh it's funny when Ryder was seven I actually wrote this like in the very first lines in the in the book I wrote I I told him that I make friends for a living.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_03: And my buddies used to give me hard times like dude Jacob you can't tell him that he's gonna ask for 20s at recess.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_03: I go no he's not I said I just tried to really dumb it down like hey when a friend needs help you go help him but if he if a friend can help him just like if the if the wrong customer wants you to help him you got to say no and try to find someone else.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_03: You're spending time with the right things at the right time.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe I was doing sales process work before I even knew I was doing it but like um I think once my kids start to realize it and even now I think when when I don't know if when your son got into like or your daughter when they got into first got on LinkedIn uh and they start like connecting and they're starting to see wait god geez dad is an idiot idiot that's right oh yeah or maybe he can get more people to look at my artwork I posted on here because he's got a lot more connection.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah yeah um okay you're new uh for those of a don't know anything about uh salient um obviously new new new role for you um help us understand uh what what you guys are up to and how can people learn more about what you guys are doing yeah no it's uh it's definitely um when we talk about fit for you know joining an organization uh like I've had the opportunity uh throughout my career this one had a lot of drivers you know for the purpose and the mission um and the the biggest uh services that we provide uh are is staffing uh for uh special education A through twelve so um you're dealing with a lot of really really specialized clinicians um that are helping you know our children our students across the country uh in speech and behavior and psychology uh As you know, as well as uh obviously challenges with uh the deaf and the blind.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, there's also uh lots of special education needs and support.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and it's a really, really big challenge for our education system uh across the US because the roles are in very high demand.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but you know, certainly you have you have geographic rural challenges where it's gonna be really difficult to find that type of specialist in that remote, you know, part of that state.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_01: Uh or even some of the bigger states, it's very competitive and you know, there's lots of different workforce pressures.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um so lion and the brands that we have are able to provide that talent solution with that industrial great history and focus and expertise uh in KTRL special education.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's really the biggest business segment.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um the second is in more traditional healthcare staff.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_01: So nursing, uh allied roles like radiology and imagery, um pharmacists and pharmacy tech.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_01: That's another you know big focus of ours.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_01: And we're supporting, you know, large healthcare systems and hospitals, as well as some mid-sized, smaller ones, too.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um but that you know, both these areas uh had went through like tumultuous growth and decline environments uh throughout COVID.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and um, you know, I think both are much more stable at this point, and there's still a lot of just structural uh demand and need, you know, in in in these spaces.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_01: So it's just a real privilege and honor, you know, to be part of kind of the cause and the purpose that we provide.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um as I mentioned, my parents were teachers, my wife's nurse practitioner, my uh sister's social worker.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I've got you know lots of that kind of heritage uh and to um and to be right in the middle of it.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_03: Probably draw through like an easier, I just I I would think it draws a really good connection with you with the internally with employees, and then when you talk to customers, just just from a storytelling perspective.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_01: Uh oh, absolutely.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_01: And I'll tell you this too, Casey.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_01: This is like really, really has blown my mind.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um you know, topics you find yourself you wouldn't naturally bring up, but now, you know, when I when someone asks me, oh, hey, great, you've been in like tech for you know 20 years or consulting, um, tell me about what you're doing now.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_01: And as soon as I just kind of describe some version of what I just did and especially talk about um specialized you know type of support in education, I would say over half at least will then cut me off and say, you know, my my brother, you know, went through that um and had some of the best teachers, you know, or specialists ever in the world.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_01: Or, oh wow, our son was just diagnosed with it, you know, and it's like, oh my gosh, you know, I never even gotten there in these conversations, and you realize how many people, you know, friends, family, themselves, you know, have been impacted uh in ways that uh is very personal to them.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_01: So again, it just didn't add to uh the great the great mission.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the word behind me is believe.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um it's not obviously there's a Ted Lasso theme, but I mean I always ask people if you don't believe what you do matters, which was a gift that again John Kaplan asked me at age 41.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_03: It was like such a simple but such profound question.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_03: If there's not belief, you're already losing.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_03: You're already losing.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know you don't um before we go into some fun.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_03: Well, actually, real quick, how can I make it easy for people to find out who Salient is?
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_03: Are there what social channels are you on and how can we make it easier?
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean website, you know, salient.com, and then you see the other brands, you know, that we have.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Blazor Work uh is a managed supplier program and a and a workforce technology brand that we have.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_01: Uh ProCare Therapy is also one of our specialized education, along with Sunbelt Staffing.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_01: So they're all part of the Soliant family.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_01: We have a teletherapy solution that's really advanced and and um and robust called BocoVision, uh, but all part of Salient.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um and you know uh also pretty uh pretty big presence on LinkedIn too.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_01: Once you kind of start going through that network, you'll see uh you'll see all those properties.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_03: We will make it easy for people to learn and find out more about Salient.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um it's hiring um really hard-charging uh people after you know a really rich, rewarding career, as I as I mentioned.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, an account, executive work, um, a lot of client and customer facing work and talent and recruiting work and digital transformation work.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_01: So we're very much in that mode.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_03: Love it.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_03: Well, we'll make it easy, everybody.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_03: If you want to learn more about them, check the uh the link in the show notes.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_03: Um I want to go back to one more dad question before we go into the fun lightning round.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_03: If you were to give yourself, um Greg's just having his first kid, um, you know, you're obviously a busy executive.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_03: What would be what would be the one piece of advice that we might that that that you would have impacted yourself, but might impact a younger dad on what you would have maybe done differently?
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_01: Man, you know that's a tough one because there's more than there's more than one.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um I probably I might have asked for some more advice.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_01: I might have even been, you know, you know, our our dads are gone now, like we said earlier.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um you know, my dad, my father-in-law too, very close to us, and and I feel like we've had great relationships.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_01: But I probably could have even done it more than figuring it out myself.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_03: That's a good one, man.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_03: Empower vulnerability, asking for help is a gift.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_01: As much as I thought we did it, I did it.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_01: I probably could have even been a little bit more transparent or vulnerable.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think it they think that one, it's a great lesson for our kids to see.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_03: And I mean, one of my biggest weaknesses in life is I literally might be United States' worst handyman in United States history.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_01: I'm with you on that one.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_03: Now I'm a great secondhand.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_03: Like you know, like I'm gonna work my ass off for somebody.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_03: Like I can I've built outside showers, I worked on decks, but I'm if it's me having to think like what goes, what screw goes where, what tool.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_03: Now, what you tell me what the tool is, and I remember, okay, that's what that is.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_03: I just don't have a mechanical brain.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_01: What is it?
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_03: You know, and I wish I wish I didn't.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_03: So like I just encourage to tell my kids like, hey, that I can lie to myself and pretend I'm really good at these things, or I can ask my buddy Steve, who knows how to fix everything.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_03: You need friends like the buddy.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_03: Well, even last night, this is so silly.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_03: I uh our we were having my mom and stepdad were in town that they wanted to say goodbye to the kids before they went off to college, and the bar our barbecue igniter is not was not working.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_02: Oh boy.
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_03: Got on YouTube.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_03: But the normal battery is not behind the little clicker, it's like underneath this below department.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I had to just unscrew this thing, you popped a battery in there.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_03: But just and Terry's like, wait, you fixed it, fixed it.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, hey, wise, you know what?
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_03: I don't need any freaking stand-up comedy out of you, you know.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_03: But I, you know, learn to take a joke, you know, teach the kids that.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_03: Like there was my mind immediately goes to like, okay, teaching moment.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_03: Like either I could be like so defensive and be like, no, what do you you know?
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, I don't know, trying to take life seriously by the way.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I get another thing, maybe I don't know, maybe there's another side of that too, though.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's like being okay to divide and conquer, you know, and uh and own it in a sense too.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I mean, I I've had been lucky to have president or CEO jobs, and you'd say, okay, that's my responsibility.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_01: But Allison, I mean, she was the CEO of the house.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_01: That included handy, handywoman stuff that she would take on and do and manage or outsource were needed, but it was kind of like, you know, she gave me a hard time, make fun of me.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, I'm hateful.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_01: But it was a great talent.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_01: You know.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_01: I I like I I'm not afraid to say I I go to what I'm good at.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_01: Uh 100%.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_02: Terry just fixed our fridge.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know how she did.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_03: I asked if she updated LinkedIn.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_03: Oh boy.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_03: Well, this has been a blast, man.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um, it's cool to learn about you and your family, impact mom and dad had on you from all the values.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_03: And it's it's in it makes no, I mean it makes all the sense in the world why the journey you've gone on, the success you continue to have.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_03: Um moms and dads, they're they're watching us more than you know.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_03: And um I always tell people you don't need a podcast to have conversations like these, you just need a little intent, a little curiosity.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_03: And if you haven't like asked a friend to go coffee or you're thinking about texting a friend, how about pick up the phone and call them?
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_03: And even if they don't answer, there's this amazing technology called voicemail.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_03: You know, they don't call you back, at least they know you're thinking about them.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_03: And I think the more that we as humans do that on a more c constant basis, um, because like our friend Paul passed away.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_03: You know, you never know when our our time's gonna be up.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_03: And so you might as well just stay present, stay grounded, stay humble, equal that service mindset, Greg, your your parents taught you.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's hopefully the glowing from our conversation today.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_03: Um time to go into lightning round.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_03: This is where I show you the negative hits of taking too many hits in college, not bong hits, but football hits.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_03: Your job is to answer these questions hopefully as quickly as you can, and my hope is to get a giggle out of you.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_03: I love it.
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_03: True or false, you were considered the Wayne Gretzky of your hockey program.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_02: They're like an in-between true and false.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_02: Too many people listening, so I can't say I'm not gonna give a full true.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_01: Moment.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_01: At moment.
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_03: Uh true or false, your favorite movie is Strange Brew.
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_03: True or false.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_03: Good one though.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_03: Fantastic movie.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um, what would be one genre of music that might surprise your new friends at Slant that you listen to?
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_01: Uh there's a lot of rap back in the day that I still hold on to, so they might not see that coming.
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_01: 90s rap, or I like nineties hip hop.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's probably uh solid genre.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_01: Still makes it on the golf course quite a bit.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_03: I had it going yesterday in the in the old pub championship.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um last book you read was uh one I really like.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Marc Messier has a memoir um and he kind of ties it to leadership and business.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's uh leading uh I can't remember, but it's Mark Messier.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's a fairly recent uh memoir, and he was uh big-time course hero of mine.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_01: New York Ranger, right?
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_01: After uh he was Gretzky's uh number two for many years on the Oilers, but then won the Stanley Cup for the Rangers in '94, which was pretty miraculous.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_03: Um all right, kids, you're staying home.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_03: You you're taking Allison uh on vacation.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_03: Where are you taking her right now?
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Cape Cod.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_03: There we go.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_03: Um if there was to be a book written about your life, tell me the title.
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um I wish I was Wayne Gretzky for my hockey program.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_01: Uh if there was a book written about my life, what would it be?
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um doing everything possible to make a positive impact.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_03: There we go.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_03: Now, Greg, I I've this this uh this book is blowing up.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_03: I I just went on Amazon, it's already sold out.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_03: Barnes Noble's sold out.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_03: All the airports, they can't keep it because it's just their things flying out of the gates.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_03: You are now um you're now been blessed because Netflix wants to make a movie out of you.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_03: And I need to know who is gonna star the one only Greg Pagliary in this new critically acclaimed hit new movie.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_03: What Hollywood actor.
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_01: No, you know, in the old days I would I would always kind of go with like Tom Cruise, but now he's like so old and kind of odd and weird that that we really know what I'm talking about.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um I go with maybe Mark Wahlberg.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_01: How about that?
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_01: You know, maybe I Northeaster.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_01: I hit the gym a little, or maybe it's one of those where he stops working out for a while, but then he all of a sudden it makes sense.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_03: Love it.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_03: The funky bunch.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_02: Let's go.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_01: Run into him a few times, by the way, and he's like the nicest, nice uh masculine celebrity you'll ever meet.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I mean people like that.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_01: And Charles Barkley's the other one.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, really?
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_01: Absolute gem of a human being.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_01: In a in a delta lounge.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_03: That'd be fun.
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_03: Um, okay, and last and most important questions.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_03: Tell me two words that would describe Allison.
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_03: Um giving and loving.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_03: Boom.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_03: Lightning round's complete.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_03: We both giggled.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_03: I usually giggle my own joke, which I'll take the loss.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_03: Um, Begs, it's been an honor.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_03: I'm very, very, very grateful to spend time with us.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_03: I hope our conversation impacts another dad out there, slows him down.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um, maybe there's younger dad listen learn from some old dads, like us, empty nesters, on um things we would have done differently.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_03: Things we're currently doing this work, and the goal is just to really impact fathers, to help create better leaders, better, stronger families, better homes.
• 58:14
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• 58:18
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• 58:24
  SPEAKER_03: I know that's been a goal of ours.
• 58:26
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 58:26
  SPEAKER_01: Brutal, really.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_03: I know.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_03: And with my scores trending upwards, I'm looking forward to you giving me stroke.
• 58:32
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, that's uh man, take it easy.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_03: Thanks, Casey.
• 58:38
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• 58:41
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• 59:16
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• 59:18
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• 59:20
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• 59:23
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