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Ep 04: "Becoming Ourselves" With Pooja Bhatnagar and Julie Taparia · Something to Say

• 0:25
  Curry Badshah: Welcome to episode four of Something to Say.
• 0:28
  Curry Badshah: Today I have a fun topic that I wanna chat about with some awesome guests, and I'm excited to get into it.
• 0:36
  Curry Badshah: So today's topic is around astrology, Vedic astrology specifically, yes, there's a difference, and human design, and how these elements can actually help you understand yourself and help you cope with the things around you.
• 0:49
  Curry Badshah: Even if everyone in the world is telling you to do something or pursue something specific and it doesn't align with you, there is a deeper reason for what is meant for you.
• 0:58
  Curry Badshah: And that thing can also change.
• 1:01
  Curry Badshah: With astrology and human design, what is meant for you will be as it is supposed to be.
• 1:07
  Curry Badshah: Just because society says to get married by 25 doesn't mean it is what is correct for you based on your birth chart.
• 1:14
  Curry Badshah: Just because you're taught to give people a chance, give them a chance and, consider XYZ, doesn't mean you ignore your gut feelings if your human design is to trust your gut.
• 1:25
  Curry Badshah: Today I have with me Vedic astrologer Julie Taparia and human design expert Pooja Bhatnagar.
• 1:31
  Curry Badshah: They have also founded Painted, which is a unique personality test that identifies various elements of how you are naturally wired.
• 1:39
  Curry Badshah: I know I'm curious to know all of this, so I welcome Julie and Pooja to Something to Say because with this, not everyone will agree, but let's say it anyway, astrology and human design matter.
• 1:53
  Curry Badshah: Julie and Pooja, welcome to Something to Say.
• 1:57
  Curry Badshah: Tell the people, like who you are, what you do, and how you got into it.
• 2:02
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Thank you, Amrutha.
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  Pooja Bhatnagar: I am Pooja, and I am a human design practitioner, a holistic wellness coach in 10 different modalities founder of a business called Revel Place, and co-founder of Painted with Julie.
• 2:18
  Pooja Bhatnagar: I would say at the heart of all of my work is one question, and that is: how do I help people return to themselves?
• 2:26
  Pooja Bhatnagar: After spending, I would say, a decade in Silicon Valley while navigating major health issues, life transitions, identity shifts I became so deeply curious about, like, why these paths felt forced while others felt more aligned.
• 2:44
  Pooja Bhatnagar: So human design gave me that language for something I'd felt my whole life.
• 2:47
  Pooja Bhatnagar: There isn't one correct way to be human.
• 2:50
  Pooja Bhatnagar: We're all designed so uniquely.
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  Curry Badshah: I love it
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  Pooja Bhatnagar: my work spans from helping individuals understand their design to building communities through Revel Place co-creating Painted with Julie.
• 3:03
  Pooja Bhatnagar: As Amrutha said, a framework that integrates human design, Ayurveda and astrology.
• 3:07
  Pooja Bhatnagar: It's basically like a personality test to help people understand themselves better and yeah.
• 3:13
  Pooja Bhatnagar: It's...
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  Pooja Bhatnagar: Because I believe flourishing doesn't happen, like, when we become someone else.
• 3:19
  Pooja Bhatnagar: It happens when we become more ourselves, and we understand who we actually truly are and what our design is through human design.
• 3:27
  Curry Badshah: Yes.
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  Pooja Bhatnagar: and
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  Curry Badshah: love that.
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  Curry Badshah: I'm like,"Put this on a t-shirt." You're saying so many things and I'm like,"Put it on a T-shirt.
• 3:34
  Curry Badshah: Put it on a hat." Tell the world
• 3:37
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Yeah.
• 3:38
  Pooja Bhatnagar: I know I- I've said human design so many times just to also give an ex- like, just a little small little description of what human design is.
• 3:45
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Human design is a self-awareness system that helps us understand how we're uniquely designed to use our energy, how we make decisions, how we move through life.
• 3:56
  Pooja Bhatnagar: It also is a synthesis, to get a little nerdy, it's a synthesis of four ancient systems.
• 4:01
  Pooja Bhatnagar: It is astrology, Kabbalah, I Ching your Hindu chakra system backed up by genetics and quantum physics.
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  Pooja Bhatnagar: Basically, it's like your user manual telling you how to live based off of your design so you face more success and less resistance
• 4:19
  Curry Badshah: I love that.
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  Curry Badshah: And I haven't heard the Like, I haven't heard Kabbalah in so long.
• 4:22
  Curry Badshah: I feel like everyone, like every celebrity was in Kabbalah in like the 2000s.
• 4:28
  Curry Badshah: And you just said Kabbalah, and I was like,"Oh my God." I haven't heard that in so long.
• 4:32
  Curry Badshah: I love it.
• 4:33
  Curry Badshah: And you told me something that I absolutely loved to hear, Is that you got into human design by listening to a podcast.
• 4:41
  Curry Badshah: And so I'm hoping today, not just me, but other people will also get into human design by listening to this podcast.
• 4:48
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Yes.
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  Pooja Bhatnagar: It really changed my life.
• 4:50
  Pooja Bhatnagar: I was driving from LA to Arizona, and in human design I'm...
• 4:54
  Pooja Bhatnagar: There are different energy types, I'm a manifestor, and this, it, there's something called urges, and I just felt this urge.
• 5:01
  Pooja Bhatnagar: I'm like,"I need to become a human design expert," I heard that podcast.
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  Pooja Bhatnagar: So yeah,
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  Curry Badshah: I think I will
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  Pooja Bhatnagar: podcast flourishes and does so, so well.
• 5:09
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Yeah.
• 5:10
  Curry Badshah: Thank you so much.
• 5:11
  Curry Badshah: I love that.
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  Curry Badshah: All right, Julie,
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  Julie Taparia: Hello
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  Curry Badshah: to everybody about who you are, how you got into this
• 5:17
  Julie Taparia: Yeah.
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  Julie Taparia: No, I'm Julie Taparia.
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  Julie Taparia: I've been studying Vedic astrology ever since I was 33 in 2009.
• 5:24
  Julie Taparia: So you can probably calculate my age.
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  Julie Taparia: I started doing it on my own, listening to podcasts, like different videos online, reading different books from India, and just like slowly gathering the concepts of Vedic astrology.
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  Julie Taparia: And it's really just about life.
• 5:37
  Julie Taparia: It's not just about astrology.
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  Julie Taparia: It's about, like, how people live their life in a certain way.
• 5:43
  Julie Taparia: And, there's different themes that happen, and y- it's just like there's different themes and different timelines in life that kick off different karma.
• 5:50
  Julie Taparia: And so I got very interested.
• 5:52
  Julie Taparia: And I actually started a course in 2017.
• 5:56
  Julie Taparia: No, sorry, 2016 to 2024, and I got my thesis and my degree in Vedic astrology from a university in New Delhi.
• 6:03
  Julie Taparia: So now I teach in New York City, and I, do readings and podcasts and different seminars, and it's been really cool.
• 6:09
  Julie Taparia: Worked with Pooja just to discuss, like, how can we make this more accessible for people like us, that just want to understand ourselves much more better and not have to go through years of trying to do trial and error, trying to figure out,"What should I do with my life?
• 6:25
  Julie Taparia: Where should I be?
• 6:25
  Julie Taparia: Where should I, When is my good time period?
• 6:27
  Julie Taparia: When is my bad time period?" So that's where I started, like, digging deep.
• 6:31
  Julie Taparia: And, Pooja and I really developed this awesome personality test to go deeper within your psyche and say,"Hey, I am who I am because of these energies and because of these my moon sign, how my
• 6:42
  Curry Badshah: Mm-hmm.
• 6:42
  Julie Taparia: made up different, what is my soul purpose," and all that sort of stuff.
• 6:46
  Julie Taparia: So that's where I am
• 6:47
  Curry Badshah: Yeah, I love that.
• 6:48
  Curry Badshah: And for those of you who have been following me as Curry Badshah for a while, and also listened to the old podcast, Julie is someone who I had before, and she like...
• 6:57
  Curry Badshah: We talked a lot about how Vedic astrology can really help, the different facets of it.
• 7:01
  Curry Badshah: And then there was some bonus content that you can find on my YouTube channel where she read my chart and found out a lot of great stuff.
• 7:07
  Curry Badshah: Even my mom sat and watched that video, and she was like,"Okay, good.
• 7:12
  Curry Badshah: I'm hearing good things, but it's just gonna take some time for you." And I- and that's how I personally got into astrology, was by being like, there is no way I am messing up my own stuff all the time.
• 7:23
  Curry Badshah: Like I can't be 100% wrong all of the time.
• 7:26
  Curry Badshah: Like, that's just, that doesn't seem correct.
• 7:29
  Curry Badshah: And that's how I got into astrology myself, not just by my parents saying"Oh you know, this is, this such and such astrologer said that this is what's destined for you this year." I wanted to know this what was going on.
• 7:41
  Curry Badshah: And I needed some answers.
• 7:42
  Curry Badshah: And,
• 7:42
  Julie Taparia: to understand.
• 7:43
  Julie Taparia: I think the With Sanskrit tied into it, no one understands our religion.
• 7:47
  Julie Taparia: There's nothing about us today that understands what Hinduism or all the, even Jainism, what does it really mean?
• 7:54
  Julie Taparia: All of these words are in Sanskrit.
• 7:56
  Julie Taparia: So I took it upon myself to learn a lot about what the meaning is behind every single mantra, every single thing in Vedic astrology, and the Rig Veda has a lot of this information too.
• 8:07
  Julie Taparia: So it took seven years, but it was fascinating, and it's really
• 8:11
  Curry Badshah: Yeah
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  Julie Taparia: nothing what we live like.
• 8:13
  Julie Taparia: The perceptions of, what you should do versus when you should get married, what you should do.
• 8:18
  Julie Taparia: It's not really...
• 8:20
  Julie Taparia: That's a very cultural thing in modern day.
• 8:21
  Julie Taparia: But, I think Vedic astrology lists out your karma will play out and when you're supposed to do certain things at a certain time.
• 8:28
  Julie Taparia: Nothing happens all in one day or in the
• 8:30
  Curry Badshah: Yes
• 8:31
  Julie Taparia: So that's really reassuring when we start seeing different types of lives, different types of people, what they do for a living, where they live, how they live.
• 8:41
  Curry Badshah: Yeah.
• 8:42
  Curry Badshah: That's what helped me, that I finally was able to get some answers and be like,"Okay, there you go.
• 8:47
  Curry Badshah: It's because this is not meant for me right now," or,"I'm meant to have this, like, period of, tumultuousness and then it's gonna end up being much better, you know at X, Y, and Z timeline." And it helped me just come to terms with it and just unclench and relax and be like,"Okay, it's all gonna happen." We're all gonna make our little efforts towards it, but at the end of the day, it's just gonna happen when it's supposed to happen." And I know my mom has always said various things of there was some karmic debt that you had to do and so that's why X, Y, Z happened." Even if it's"Oh, I came into some money because of whatever reason," and then of course, like, that's when my car breaks down, and I have to use that money.
• 9:23
  Curry Badshah: And so she's like, it wasn't your money to keep.
• 9:25
  Curry Badshah: You owed some debt somewhere and that's why it happened, and you had to lose the money again." So little things like that, it really...
• 9:30
  Curry Badshah: I went from being like,"Ma, that's dumb," like,"Stop," to being like,"No, yeah, that makes sense." But I really wanna dive into human design, Pooja.
• 9:40
  Curry Badshah: You said that you're a manifestor, and I'm curious how, where...
• 9:45
  Curry Badshah: what's the best place to get started with human design?
• 9:48
  Curry Badshah: Like, where do you get...
• 9:49
  Curry Badshah: Like, where can someone go to be like,"Let me figure out what my human design is," and how does someone figure out, like, that they're a manifestor?
• 9:56
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Yeah.
• 9:57
  Pooja Bhatnagar: So there are free websites online.
• 9:59
  Pooja Bhatnagar: There is Jovian Archive, I can't think of it all on the top of my head, but there are a few websites.
• 10:04
  Pooja Bhatnagar: And you would have to just put the exact same thing as you put w- for your astrology.
• 10:08
  Pooja Bhatnagar: You just put your birth date, birth time, birth place, and you can find out all the information.
• 10:15
  Pooja Bhatnagar: It may not make sense but When you see it, that your energy type, you'll see your profile, you'll see...
• 10:22
  Pooja Bhatnagar: And again, I know these words don't really make sense right now, but you'll see your authority, and you'll see just so many different components and aspects of human design.
• 10:31
  Pooja Bhatnagar: It can get, there's the surface level, like, where, you have your signs in astrology, that's energy types, and then it gets deeper and deeper.
• 10:39
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Just pla- like peeling a layer off an onion.
• 10:42
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Every time you're like,"Oh my God.
• 10:43
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Oh my God," you learn more and more.
• 10:44
  Pooja Bhatnagar: And yeah, so a manifestor is one of the five energy types that exists out there, and then there's four more.
• 10:52
  Pooja Bhatnagar: And I think you are a projector from what I, when I was researching earlier.
• 10:57
  Curry Badshah: that's so sad
• 11:00
  Pooja Bhatnagar: is that what you were...
• 11:00
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Did you see that you were a projector?
• 11:02
  Curry Badshah: No, I don't.
• 11:03
  Curry Badshah: I honestly, I've looked it up a couple of times and I don't recall.
• 11:07
  Curry Badshah: For some reason it doesn't stick in my brain the way like astrology stuff does.
• 11:10
  Curry Badshah: Yeah
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  Pooja Bhatnagar: thing for me with astrology.
• 11:12
  Pooja Bhatnagar: It doesn't stick in my brain the same
• 11:15
  Curry Badshah: 'cause like I really got into astrology, so a lot of that just like finds the spot in my brain and just takes its place.
• 11:20
  Curry Badshah: But human design for some- I think the only thing, I think you mentioned authority.
• 11:25
  Curry Badshah: I think there's like a splenic authority or something like...
• 11:28
  Pooja Bhatnagar: So
• 11:28
  Curry Badshah: I think that's the only thing that stuck with me that I know and like I looked it up and I was like,"Oh, that means I the gut, like I tr- have to trust my gut." And that's where I get that from where I'm like,
• 11:38
  Pooja Bhatnagar: so that's different.
• 11:39
  Pooja Bhatnagar: So
• 11:39
  Curry Badshah: "Oh, that's pretty neat.
• 11:40
  Curry Badshah: I don't know."
• 11:41
  Pooja Bhatnagar: gut and trusting your splenic or tr- your splenic is your intuition.
• 11:47
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Is a full body experience, and that's what a lot of generators and manifesting generators your have, have.
• 11:52
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Projectors actually don't have the gut defined, but
• 11:56
  Curry Badshah: Oh
• 11:57
  Pooja Bhatnagar: yeah.
• 11:57
  Pooja Bhatnagar: And that is like your, that's like the go go energy.
• 12:00
  Pooja Bhatnagar: That's like your creative energy.
• 12:02
  Pooja Bhatnagar: It's usually it's the generators and manifesting generators.
• 12:05
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Any generator has that gut experience.
• 12:08
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Manifestors and Projectors and reflectors don't even have the, it's called sacral, and it's not it's undefined.
• 12:14
  Pooja Bhatnagar: So
• 12:14
  Curry Badshah: Okay
• 12:14
  Pooja Bhatnagar: defined by your splenic, which is your intuition.
• 12:17
  Pooja Bhatnagar: So like you, it's not even, it's not a full, it's,
• 12:20
  Curry Badshah: Oh, it's not a gut thing.
• 12:21
  Curry Badshah: It's an in-
• 12:21
  Pooja Bhatnagar: a gut.
• 12:22
  Pooja Bhatnagar: It's, yeah, so gut is a full body experience.
• 12:24
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Intuition is
• 12:25
  Curry Badshah: I like now knowing that there's a difference
• 12:27
  Pooja Bhatnagar: I just kn- yeah, I just know it's happening
• 12:29
  Curry Badshah: I couldn't...
• 12:30
  Curry Badshah: Okay, I didn't know that there was a difference.
• 12:32
  Curry Badshah: I always felt like your intuition told your gut,
• 12:34
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Yeah
• 12:35
  Curry Badshah: I thought that there was a connection there, but you're saying that there isn't, and that they're two completely different things.
• 12:40
  Curry Badshah: It's if you're in a sketchy situation and your gut is like,"This is not great, you need to leave," like that's a whole body experience that's different
• 12:47
  Pooja Bhatnagar: feel something in their body.
• 12:48
  Pooja Bhatnagar: They'll be like oh." They'll feel it.
• 12:49
  Pooja Bhatnagar: And but
• 12:50
  Curry Badshah: Uh-huh.
• 12:50
  Curry Badshah: Okay.
• 12:51
  Pooja Bhatnagar: it's actual real intuition.
• 12:53
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Your spleen, which is your intuition, is defined.
• 12:56
  Pooja Bhatnagar: And it sometimes it can come off as fear, sometimes it can come off as a knowing.
• 13:00
  Pooja Bhatnagar: So again you have to there are certain aspects within it.
• 13:05
  Pooja Bhatnagar: There's your gates, there's your channels that are defined.
• 13:07
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Obviously we're not gonna go so into detail, but you'll see sometimes you can say,"Oh, shit, that's a fear," but no, let me change that to a knowing.
• 13:16
  Pooja Bhatnagar: So a lot of the human design is, let's say something's going wrong with your coworker, something's going wrong with your relationship and the way that you communicate, and you can look at the center, look at your channels, look at your gates, see what's defined, how do you change it, how do you make that a fe- how do you make that a knowing instead of a fear, and how to make that communication better.
• 13:34
  Pooja Bhatnagar: And so human design is all about communicating better, creating better situations that are out there so to face more success.
• 13:43
  Curry Badshah: I love that.
• 13:44
  Pooja Bhatnagar: of your life.
• 13:46
  Curry Badshah: Oh my God, I love that so much.
• 13:47
  Curry Badshah: See, this is the...
• 13:48
  Curry Badshah: This is gonna be, this is gonna be my own podcast that starts getting me into it where I'm gonna listen to, I'm gonna listen to this back and be like,"Ugh, so great." And I'm gonna start diving even deeper because by the time this comes out, my conversation with Aparna would have also come out.
• 14:04
  Curry Badshah: And Aparna and I also talk, you know, and you both know Aparna, and she knows both of you.
• 14:08
  Curry Badshah: And we did, her and I did talk a little bit about human design, and I believe it was off-camera that we did this, that sh- she like made me look up all the stuff.
• 14:17
  Curry Badshah: And but she was able...
• 14:19
  Curry Badshah: Such a great she, like, read me so she has such a great read on people, and that's what I felt, that she just, like, instantly was like, did you wanna edit, or did you wanna stop, like, she was immediately able to read me in, like, the best way, in the nicest way, that I was like,"Thank you for recognizing.
• 14:35
  Curry Badshah: Yes.
• 14:36
  Pooja Bhatnagar: She's
• 14:37
  Curry Badshah: I would like to take a moment."
• 14:39
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Yeah.
• 14:39
  Pooja Bhatnagar: She we were manifestors.
• 14:41
  Pooja Bhatnagar: So you and Julie are projectors.
• 14:42
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Me and Aparna are actually manifestors.
• 14:44
  Pooja Bhatnagar: So
• 14:44
  Curry Badshah: okay
• 14:45
  Pooja Bhatnagar: But to talk about, we can we, we can talk a little bit more about what a projector is, or we can go into something else.
• 14:50
  Pooja Bhatnagar: But I- usually projectors, you know how you s- you were saying that like people have different timelines, right?
• 14:56
  Pooja Bhatnagar: And so like projectors, you guys are like the new CEOs of this world.
• 15:00
  Pooja Bhatnagar: So it feels like you're not...
• 15:03
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Yeah, so I w- I always say a projector, they're like the guides, they're observers.
• 15:06
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Like Obama is a projector.
• 15:08
  Pooja Bhatnagar: The people that are making like the MySpace to the Facebook, Facebook to the Instagram to the TikToks.
• 15:14
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Like you're not like the bigger, you're like the smaller, like this podcast in itself, right?
• 15:19
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Like you're, you have your own timeline.
• 15:21
  Pooja Bhatnagar: You're not here to work like 10 hours a day.
• 15:24
  Pooja Bhatnagar: You're here to work like three to four hours and then just, see and guide and observe and come up with your own small little and, you're just, you're the new CEOs of this world.
• 15:34
  Pooja Bhatnagar: And that's, I always define projectors as that.
• 15:36
  Pooja Bhatnagar: And so like you're busy always like doing that.
• 15:39
  Curry Badshah: Yeah, I am already
• 15:39
  Pooja Bhatnagar: have your own time- you all have your own timeline.
• 15:42
  Pooja Bhatnagar: And the other energy types have also their own timeline as well.
• 15:45
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Not, no
• 15:46
  Curry Badshah: I love that
• 15:46
  Pooja Bhatnagar: not
• 15:47
  Curry Badshah: because I feel like you hear the word projector, and you think about, like, projecting your insecurities onto someone.
• 15:51
  Curry Badshah: That's the first thought.
• 15:52
  Curry Badshah: So when I hear projector, I'm like,"Is that bad?" But then I guess your human design can never actually, quote,"be bad," it is just who you are and how you are and how you're literally designed to be, and it just means that you are the type of person whose behavior is X, Y, and Z by, you know, typically speaking.
• 16:11
  Curry Badshah: And so, okay, yeah.
• 16:12
  Curry Badshah: This does...
• 16:13
  Curry Badshah: This whole, like, busy and always trying to find out little things makes a lot of sense in the times where, like, my career is on a dip on a low, That's when I'm, like, somehow the, still the busiest person because that's when I take on all the other projects that are sitting a little dormant.
• 16:27
  Curry Badshah: And then I'm like,"Okay.
• 16:28
  Curry Badshah: I'm gonna do this, and I'm gonna do that, and I'm gonna do 10 different things," to where, like, miraculously now I have zero time available.
• 16:34
  Curry Badshah: And people are like,"Aren't you unemployed?" And I'm like,"Yes, but, like, I have 17 projects going on." So every spare time is spent in figuring those things out or, like, trying to make the most of all of those situations.
• 16:49
  Curry Badshah: But you mentioned timelines, so I wanna jump to Julie about timelines and astrology and all of that.
• 16:55
  Curry Badshah: Like, Julie, you helped me realize that, Based on my Vedic chart, on my birth chart, that, like, I'm not supposed to get married until after 35.
• 17:04
  Curry Badshah: And I was like,"Oh, okay," so I can just release my grip on the need to find a husband and just not hold on to this timeline definition of oh my God, and if it doesn't happen by 35, like, something's wrong with me or I'm broken or whatever like that.
• 17:23
  Curry Badshah: But I would love us to get into, like, the timelines of people because, like I said in my intro, like, society's always saying, like, these are the things that have to happen within this timeline, but we talked about how that's very much just a cultural thing versus, like, what's meant for us.
• 17:41
  Curry Badshah: Can you talk more about that and elaborate on various aspects
• 17:44
  Julie Taparia: So Vedic astrology, and all of us live in a certain time period.
• 17:48
  Julie Taparia: You are in a different time period than I am.
• 17:51
  Curry Badshah: Mm-hmm.
• 17:51
  Julie Taparia: is in a different time period than h- than all of us.
• 17:53
  Julie Taparia: We...
• 17:54
  Julie Taparia: This is what's interesting about Vedic astrology, is that Vedic astrology, it's a predictive astrology.
• 17:59
  Julie Taparia: It can actually tell you what year you'll find your spouse, when you'll have a child, when you'll actually have your job, when will you peak at your career, when will you have a health issue.
• 18:09
  Julie Taparia: Everything.
• 18:09
  Julie Taparia: There's timings, and not everyone has the same timing.
• 18:14
  Julie Taparia: So for example, there, the timings are called dasha, and dasha's Know, a season of life.
• 18:20
  Julie Taparia: So when you see a lot of people who get married in their 20s and find the love of their life and get married and get pregnant and then have children, that's usually a time period where it might be a Venus time period for a lot of women, or a Moon time period,'cause Venus is love.
• 18:35
  Julie Taparia: Moon is actually a very nurturing planet.
• 18:37
  Julie Taparia: The Moon, the Moon is people talk about emotions when you have the Moon.
• 18:41
  Curry Badshah: Yeah
• 18:42
  Julie Taparia: there's connotations to every planet in Vedic astrology.
• 18:45
  Julie Taparia: So imagine when we didn't have anything but the sky to look at.
• 18:49
  Julie Taparia: The characteristics of the planet is represents of what in the sky.
• 18:54
  Julie Taparia: So for example, Saturn, y- there's rings, right?
• 18:58
  Julie Taparia: There's rings around Saturn, lots of air, lots of dust.
• 19:02
  Julie Taparia: It's far away from the Sun, so it's a cold planet where lots of rocks are rotating Saturn.
• 19:08
  Julie Taparia: So if you think about, it's a very windy planet with no light.
• 19:11
  Julie Taparia: So when Saturn, if you're going through a Saturn time period, it's called shani in, in Sanskrit.
• 19:17
  Curry Badshah: Oh, very familiar
• 19:19
  Julie Taparia: yeah, you're going through a period of, like, where it's a little bit you don't see the light.
• 19:23
  Julie Taparia: You're always working.
• 19:24
  Julie Taparia: It's a lot of wind, right?
• 19:25
  Julie Taparia: Anxiety.
• 19:26
  Julie Taparia: When you're breathing really heavy, it's anxiety, right?
• 19:29
  Julie Taparia: It's wind.
• 19:30
  Julie Taparia: So imagine the characteristics of the planet, and then there's a Saturn time period where you're always working really hard.
• 19:36
  Julie Taparia: You're, just a very much going through the motions of The grit of life and Annoying, right?
• 19:42
  Curry Badshah: Yeah
• 19:43
  Julie Taparia: Saturn period's over, which is a very long time, then you
• 19:46
  Curry Badshah: Seven yea- isn't it usually seven, seven and a half years?
• 19:46
  Curry Badshah: 'Cause I had one
• 19:49
  Julie Taparia: Oh,
• 19:49
  Curry Badshah: of the...
• 19:49
  Julie Taparia: Sade Sati.
• 19:50
  Julie Taparia: That's something different, but
• 19:51
  Curry Badshah: Oh God.
• 19:52
  Julie Taparia: thing.
• 19:52
  Julie Taparia: It's a very
• 19:52
  Curry Badshah: Goodness
• 19:53
  Julie Taparia: but Saturn is on top of your mind.
• 19:55
  Julie Taparia: And when that happens, you have anxiety, you have some life lessons, like things happen, but it's a shorter period.
• 20:01
  Julie Taparia: But then after Saturn happens is that it's, it changes completely.
• 20:05
  Julie Taparia: Then a new phase starts, and it's I believe it's Mercury.
• 20:09
  Julie Taparia: So Mercury is Mercury retrograde.
• 20:11
  Julie Taparia: Everyone's about communications, right?
• 20:12
  Julie Taparia: Like it's a fast-moving planet in the sky.
• 20:15
  Julie Taparia: It's the fastest moving planet around the sun.
• 20:18
  Julie Taparia: So it's almost like a child.
• 20:19
  Julie Taparia: A child runs really fast.
• 20:20
  Julie Taparia: It's like a playful time in
• 20:22
  Curry Badshah: That's why chaos, like...
• 20:23
  Curry Badshah: Oh, maybe not.
• 20:24
  Curry Badshah: You just said playful and I said chaos
• 20:26
  Julie Taparia: your toys on the ground, right?
• 20:28
  Julie Taparia: It's y-
• 20:28
  Pooja Bhatnagar: that was me last week
• 20:29
  Julie Taparia: yeah, you're throwing toys on the ground, and you're like very playful.
• 20:31
  Julie Taparia: It's like fast.
• 20:32
  Julie Taparia: Like kids are fast.
• 20:33
  Julie Taparia: Like it's very, they're very talkative.
• 20:35
  Julie Taparia: And then after that...
• 20:36
  Julie Taparia: Like there's different phases.
• 20:37
  Julie Taparia: So when people go through a Venus phase, maybe a lot of women in their twenties and thirties might have go, going through a twenty-year Venus cycle.
• 20:45
  Julie Taparia: That's when you'll get, see them get married.
• 20:47
  Julie Taparia: That's what happens.
• 20:48
  Julie Taparia: But if your Venus cycle is in your forties, you're gonna get married in your forties most probably because that's when your Venus cycle happens.
• 20:55
  Julie Taparia: Another period that women can get married is Jupiter.
• 20:58
  Julie Taparia: Jupiter cycles are, I believe, seventeen to sixteen years, and that's a time period where you'll see a woman find her husband, f- have her children, all within that sixteen-year period.
• 21:09
  Julie Taparia: But other things do happen, but it's really the, the spirituality comes into place'cause Jupiter is just that planet of abundance.
• 21:15
  Julie Taparia: Why is it abundance?
• 21:16
  Julie Taparia: 'Cause Jupiter is filled with gas, and it's a weird thing, but Jupiter is a very gassy planet, so gas expands.
• 21:24
  Julie Taparia: It's very
• 21:24
  Curry Badshah: Uh-huh.
• 21:25
  Julie Taparia: this, but when you look at things that expand, Jupiter expands your life, expands prosperity, expands your whole lineage.
• 21:32
  Julie Taparia: You get children.
• 21:33
  Julie Taparia: You get married.
• 21:34
  Julie Taparia: So this is where I think a lot of dashas come into place, activate certain events in our life.
• 21:40
  Julie Taparia: So ther- therefore, you can see a lot of women get married during moon.
• 21:44
  Julie Taparia: It's a nurturing planet with emotions.
• 21:46
  Julie Taparia: Jupiter is very like abundance, and Venus is
• 21:49
  Curry Badshah: Yeah.
• 21:50
  Julie Taparia: of love.
• 21:50
  Julie Taparia: So that's
• 21:50
  Curry Badshah: Okay, I have a question for you that I don't know if it's silly, but that's the whole point of this, right?
• 21:55
  Curry Badshah: Ask the silly questions also.
• 21:56
  Curry Badshah: So why not?
• 21:57
  Curry Badshah: All right.
• 21:58
  Curry Badshah: You told me that I have a real- really great Jupiter placement.
• 22:01
  Curry Badshah: You're like,"You're very lucky.
• 22:02
  Curry Badshah: Your Jupiter is, like really good." And so I had gotten a ring with a yellow stone because of Jupiter.
• 22:09
  Julie Taparia: Right.
• 22:09
  Curry Badshah: mom was like,"Good.
• 22:11
  Curry Badshah: Make sure you wear that.
• 22:12
  Curry Badshah: It's a yellow gemstone, Jupiter," all this stuff.
• 22:15
  Curry Badshah: Recently, it broke.
• 22:18
  Julie Taparia: Okay
• 22:18
  Curry Badshah: that a good sign or a bad sign?
• 22:21
  Julie Taparia: That's just
• 22:22
  Curry Badshah: The stone didn't break.
• 22:23
  Curry Badshah: The ring itself broke.
• 22:24
  Curry Badshah: I will define that.
• 22:25
  Curry Badshah: Like
• 22:25
  Julie Taparia: that outbreak, right?
• 22:26
  Curry Badshah: the gem did not break.
• 22:27
  Curry Badshah: The gold band broke.
• 22:29
  Julie Taparia: Okay
• 22:29
  Curry Badshah: and I was trying to wear it still'cause I was like,"Oh, I didn't even notice it broke for a while." But then it got caught on something and pulled, and I was like,"Now it hurts, and I can't..." But then I was like,"Oh my God, I'm not wearing it." Is my Saturn...
• 22:40
  Curry Badshah: Is my...
• 22:41
  Curry Badshah: Or sorry, my Jupiter.
• 22:42
  Curry Badshah: Is my Jupiter gonna, like, the...
• 22:44
  Curry Badshah: Is my luck gonna change for the worse?
• 22:46
  Julie Taparia: I
• 22:46
  Curry Badshah: Okay.
• 22:46
  Julie Taparia: is where omens are.
• 22:48
  Julie Taparia: Like, you can see omens.
• 22:49
  Julie Taparia: Omens are a big part of Vedic astrology.
• 22:51
  Julie Taparia: Like, when something breaks, it's just not the right time to wear it.
• 22:54
  Julie Taparia: Maybe it's a time for something else, and you go back to it later.
• 22:58
  Julie Taparia: So maybe you need to wear it later.
• 22:59
  Julie Taparia: But I think omens are pretty fascinating, and it's nice that you picked up that signal, the external signal.
• 23:06
  Julie Taparia: When...
• 23:08
  Julie Taparia: there's all sorts of omens you can find, and-
• 23:11
  Curry Badshah: Yeah, because this ring has been actually a little bit annoying since purchasing it.
• 23:16
  Curry Badshah: And I'm starting to wonder, I'm like,"Am I even supposed to have this ring?" Because first there was a whole situation where a prong needed to be fixed, and then I was leaving town, and there was, like, chaos to get it back.
• 23:27
  Curry Badshah: I told my mom, I was like,"No, it's okay.
• 23:29
  Curry Badshah: You hold onto it," and she's like,"What is the point of getting you a ring for your luck if you can't wear it for the next six months?" Like,"What do you mean, like, you're gonna leave town without it?"
• 23:37
  Julie Taparia: Yeah, that's just one remedy.
• 23:39
  Julie Taparia: Huh?
• 23:40
  Pooja Bhatnagar: That's happened to me too as well with the ring.
• 23:42
  Pooja Bhatnagar: So I didn't know about the omen.
• 23:44
  Pooja Bhatnagar: That's good to know.
• 23:45
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Sorry.
• 23:45
  Pooja Bhatnagar: That happened to
• 23:46
  Curry Badshah: oh, okay.
• 23:46
  Curry Badshah: Yes.
• 23:46
  Curry Badshah: Continue to educate us, Julie
• 23:48
  Pooja Bhatnagar: I was like- Yeah it happened to me with an opal.
• 23:49
  Pooja Bhatnagar: I was like,
• 23:50
  Julie Taparia: was it opal?
• 23:50
  Pooja Bhatnagar: I was like, yeah, an opal happened to me as well, and I it was such a
• 23:54
  Julie Taparia: umbrella.
• 23:55
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Yeah.
• 23:55
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Just,
• 23:55
  Julie Taparia: I think there's some omens.
• 23:57
  Julie Taparia: It might not be the right time.
• 23:58
  Julie Taparia: I also think that some stones, you don't know if it's supposed to...
• 24:02
  Julie Taparia: The effect of wearing that stone, does it really make a positive or negative effect?
• 24:06
  Julie Taparia: You might have to try it out for 40 days, they say, to really see the effect of it.
• 24:10
  Julie Taparia: If it doesn't do anything, then maybe it's not the right time,'cause it activates the energy that's supposed to be there.
• 24:16
  Julie Taparia: Let's say you're going through a Jupiter cycle.
• 24:18
  Julie Taparia: It should activate it and make it stronger.
• 24:20
  Julie Taparia: If you're not going through a Jupiter cycle, it just might give you, like, more wisdom,'cause that's what it does.
• 24:24
  Julie Taparia: It gives you wisdom, gives you some spirituality, but it might not give you that husband right away.
• 24:29
  Julie Taparia: But I think what I found more stronger is, it's a physical thing.
• 24:34
  Julie Taparia: I think the going internal and fixing the, doing the mantras are much more powerful.
• 24:41
  Julie Taparia: We were talking about this earlier.
• 24:42
  Julie Taparia: Doing the mantras on a daily basis Does have an effect on your mind, and then when you have that effect on your mind, it changes everything.
• 24:49
  Julie Taparia: Your mind is...
• 24:50
  Julie Taparia: The next thing is the, an action.
• 24:52
  Julie Taparia: The next thing is a result.
• 24:53
  Julie Taparia: The next thing is an outcome.
• 24:54
  Julie Taparia: Those are different things that can change the way you view things.
• 24:57
  Julie Taparia: It makes you get up from work.
• 24:58
  Julie Taparia: It makes you get up from the bed and do something different.
• 25:01
  Julie Taparia: So I Is a very powerful tool,'cause mantra is mun- manas.
• 25:06
  Julie Taparia: is mind, and tra is tool, so it's a tool for your mind.
• 25:10
  Julie Taparia: So that's how..
• 25:11
  Julie Taparia: 'cause people didn't have money back they, back in the day.
• 25:14
  Julie Taparia: They couldn't purchase a diamond.
• 25:15
  Julie Taparia: They couldn't purchase an opal.
• 25:17
  Julie Taparia: So To?
• 25:17
  Julie Taparia: They go to their mantras, their tool to activate the certain chakras in your body and activate the certain planets in your chart, and that actually does work very strongly,
• 25:28
  Curry Badshah: yeah, I feel when I was, at least like last year, I know I was like dedicatedly meditating every morning.
• 25:36
  Curry Badshah: And it's a 10-minute guided meditation.
• 25:37
  Curry Badshah: I use an app, like, and I always felt better for doing it, and it was just it I started doing it by habit stacking.
• 25:44
  Curry Badshah: I was like, if I brush my teeth, I have to, you know, as soon as I finish brushing my teeth, I meditate.
• 25:48
  Curry Badshah: Only then do I make my coffee and go about my day, and all that stuff.
• 25:51
  Curry Badshah: So I had to fit it into all of my morning habits.
• 25:54
  Curry Badshah: And so I felt like I was my most intuitive, like, last year.
• 25:59
  Curry Badshah: I feel like I was very, like, I just feel like this is right, and I just gotta do it, and I feel And I remember people asking me, like,"How do you know when you came into the..." And I'm like,"I really think something about meditating just taught me how to listen to inside." And as someone who, like, diagnosed ADD as a kid, like medication my entire life, like my brain jumps everywhere.
• 26:23
  Curry Badshah: It's probably also why I'm a constantly busy person, because I need things to do.
• 26:27
  Curry Badshah: Sitting around, like, I can only sit around and be lazy for so long.
• 26:31
  Curry Badshah: And so I always need some- like, I need things to do and...
• 26:35
  Curry Badshah: But but that was a time where I was like, I've Somehow I can just figure out that this feels right and I'm gonna do it, or that seems right and I'm gonna do it, and can't really give you a solid reason why, or I can give you a list of things and It's not gonna make sense to you, but it makes sense to me, and so that's what I'm gonna do.
• 26:52
  Curry Badshah: And I think that's another whole thing of this entire discussion, where sometimes, like, I'll talk to my parents and tell them I've made this decision for a reason, that it just seems right, and they're like,"You're an adult.
• 27:02
  Curry Badshah: Like, I don't know, like, we don't know what else to say.
• 27:04
  Curry Badshah: We're gonna tell you something and you're not gonna listen because you're an adult and you feel this way about something, so therefore you're just gonna do it." Or my brother, and we're very close, and he'll say"Yeah, that's not a decision I would make, but you seem pretty str- pretty strong about it, so I support you."
• 27:18
  Pooja Bhatnagar: So
• 27:19
  Curry Badshah: then I find myself being, like, party of one in this belief.
• 27:22
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Yeah
• 27:22
  Curry Badshah: But I really do believe that when I was dedicatedly meditating all the time, that it was just, for some reason I was so certain about so many things.
• 27:30
  Pooja Bhatnagar: So to go back, to even talk about to talk about y-you are going to enhance your intuition.
• 27:36
  Pooja Bhatnagar: You are defined by your splenic, which is your intuition.
• 27:39
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Meditating, it's gonna get stronger, and stronger, and
• 27:42
  Curry Badshah: okay
• 27:43
  Pooja Bhatnagar: you're gonna know what to do, actually.
• 27:46
  Curry Badshah: Yeah
• 27:46
  Pooja Bhatnagar: You will...
• 27:47
  Pooja Bhatnagar: And you-- obviously consistency is key to anything and everything in life, which
• 27:52
  Curry Badshah: Yes, of course.
• 27:54
  Curry Badshah: Yes
• 27:55
  Pooja Bhatnagar: with you being a projector, and I know Julie knows this, Your strategy in life is to be invited do things.
• 28:03
  Pooja Bhatnagar: It's not initiation.
• 28:05
  Pooja Bhatnagar: It's not res- It's to be invited.
• 28:07
  Pooja Bhatnagar: But it
• 28:07
  Curry Badshah: I love that
• 28:08
  Pooja Bhatnagar: you're just waiting for the invitation.
• 28:10
  Curry Badshah: No
• 28:11
  Pooja Bhatnagar: You're doing your things.
• 28:12
  Pooja Bhatnagar: You're, like, studying, you're researching, you're doing nothing.
• 28:15
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Whatever it is that you need to do, but it's the invitation is what's gonna be the most successful in any area of your life, from
• 28:24
  Curry Badshah: I love that.
• 28:26
  Curry Badshah: It feels like it makes a lot of sense because I keep...
• 28:29
  Curry Badshah: I've talked a lot many times about it's just nice to include people, and my whole thing is about inclusion.
• 28:36
  Curry Badshah: Like, I'm just like ev- like, sometimes I'll invite friends to things and I'm like,"You don't even live in town, and I know you're not gonna be able to make it, but I'm inviting you because it's nice to be invited, and I want you to know that I want you to be there." But
• 28:48
  Pooja Bhatnagar: it's you to be invited.
• 28:50
  Curry Badshah: for me, and that's where it's like that's how I see the world, so when the world doesn't see it like that for me
• 28:55
  Pooja Bhatnagar: okay
• 28:56
  Curry Badshah: I've matured since and stopped being like, you know, a butt about it and being like,"Eh, then you can invite..." I'm just like,"All right.
• 29:02
  Curry Badshah: Whatever" You know?
• 29:03
  Curry Badshah: Like I've learned to come to around a reason.
• 29:05
  Curry Badshah: But I'm like, I just want to be included.
• 29:08
  Curry Badshah: I wanna be invited.
• 29:09
  Curry Badshah: I wanna be considered.
• 29:10
  Curry Badshah: And n-not, I mean, we haven't talked really about, like, r-relationships or romantic relationships, but I've started to say"No, I wanna be pursued." And and people are like how are you making yourself available?" I'm like,"I'm putting myself in a bar, in a cafe with a book or, like, some...
• 29:27
  Curry Badshah: or, like, sitting somewhere and just people watching." And I'm like, this is me being like, I'm out here.
• 29:31
  Curry Badshah: I'm ready.
• 29:32
  Curry Badshah: I would...
• 29:32
  Curry Badshah: I don't mind.
• 29:33
  Curry Badshah: I'm not on my phone.
• 29:35
  Curry Badshah: I'm not on a laptop working'cause those signify, like, maybe I'm waiting for someone, or I'm just, like, at working on something.
• 29:42
  Curry Badshah: Like, I'm here and that, and I put myself in a situation, even if it's for an hour, and if someone approaches me, that's exactly what I want to be included in someone's, you know, pursue and not keep constantly doing the pursuing'cause I did it for years.
• 29:57
  Curry Badshah: I did it for years, and I considered myself a very strong, independent woman who's like,"If I want a man, I'm gonna go get him." And I did all of those things, and I was told, like,"The women should make a move and not be..." I'm like,"Damn straight.
• 30:09
  Curry Badshah: You wanna hook up to..." Like, I did all of that, and it had its other sides of benefit.
• 30:14
  Curry Badshah: You know, they worked in one way, but not in the way that I now have come to be like, I would like...
• 30:21
  Curry Badshah: I just want the person who wants me to let me know, to come find me and bring me along with him because then together it's gonna really work.
• 30:31
  Curry Badshah: And I tell people this that, you know, I'm like,"Maybe it sounds crazy, and maybe you're saying, like, you should still continue to make the move." I'm like,"I am putting myself in places, and I'm keeping my heart and mind open, and I think that's what feels right for me."'Cause every time I've tried what society and community keeps saying you should try X, Y, and Z, I'm like, I tried it all.
• 30:51
  Julie Taparia: Yeah.
• 30:51
  Curry Badshah: worked.
• 30:52
  Curry Badshah: Times that it, the times that I've had a nice relationship have come out of the blue where I wasn't chasing it, And they started conversations with me, and all of a sudden I went,"Huh, I like this"
• 31:05
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Yeah.
• 31:06
  Curry Badshah: And I'm like, I think that's just what I'm supposed to do.
• 31:09
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Yeah.
• 31:09
  Pooja Bhatnagar: The other way won't work, right?
• 31:11
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Oh, go on
• 31:12
  Julie Taparia: But it also no it talks about the fifth house versus seventh house in Vedic astrology.
• 31:15
  Julie Taparia: This is like what you're saying, like finding a relationship.
• 31:19
  Julie Taparia: So some people have a very hard time getting into a relationship.
• 31:23
  Julie Taparia: does not mean your marriage karma is doomed.
• 31:26
  Julie Taparia: relationships dating is different than marriage.
• 31:29
  Julie Taparia: Dating is your fifth house.
• 31:31
  Julie Taparia: Imagine there's 12 areas of your life, and one of the areas is actually for romance, and children, and love affairs, and even day trading.
• 31:41
  Julie Taparia: That's the same place.
• 31:42
  Curry Badshah: And day trading.
• 31:43
  Julie Taparia: tra- day trading, like gambling.
• 31:46
  Julie Taparia: If you have
• 31:47
  Curry Badshah: Uh-huh.
• 31:47
  Julie Taparia: Dating is like gambling, right?
• 31:48
  Julie Taparia: You shoot a dice.
• 31:49
  Julie Taparia: You're like,"Oh, is this guy right or It's a gamble.
• 31:52
  Julie Taparia: But that, and you can have good, really good gambling luck and, or you can have kinda not so good, like very
• 31:59
  Curry Badshah: Yeah
• 32:00
  Julie Taparia: But then you look at your marriage karma, it, that's a very different place in the chart.
• 32:05
  Julie Taparia: That is your seventh house.
• 32:06
  Julie Taparia: Seventh hou- house, how is it different?
• 32:09
  Julie Taparia: It's a business partnership.
• 32:11
  Julie Taparia: Marriage is a signed agreement that you will be with that person.
• 32:15
  Julie Taparia: I can sign an agreement with Pooja Bhatnagar and you, and we could have my marriage house get activated again because it's a business relationship.
• 32:23
  Julie Taparia: Now, how are my business, how is your business relationships working out?
• 32:27
  Julie Taparia: That is karma that's very different than your love affairs and gambling.
• 32:32
  Julie Taparia: So you can have terrible dates.
• 32:35
  Julie Taparia: Like, but then you can get married, and it's completely fine because the karma is different.
• 32:40
  Julie Taparia: So people really get down about"Oh, no one likes me.
• 32:43
  Julie Taparia: No one's asking me out." But then how do you get from a boyfriend to a marriage?
• 32:48
  Julie Taparia: That's where the arranged marriage system happened for a long time in India.
• 32:52
  Julie Taparia: And that's how maybe sometimes what happens, that you meet a person, kinda checks all the boxes, then you get married.
• 32:58
  Julie Taparia: There's not really the romance.
• 33:00
  Julie Taparia: Because the love later, and that's okay because it's different karmas.
• 33:05
  Curry Badshah: Mm-hmm.
• 33:06
  Julie Taparia: So it's very interesting to not get hung up on"Oh, this did not work out for me," because you don't know if that person good marriage karma or not.
• 33:17
  Julie Taparia: They could just have good relationship karma and romance karma.
• 33:22
  Curry Badshah: True.
• 33:22
  Julie Taparia: it's,
• 33:23
  Curry Badshah: enough.
• 33:23
  Julie Taparia: tricky, we can't...
• 33:24
  Curry Badshah: Yeah, when is life not tricky?
• 33:25
  Curry Badshah: E- even if it's predetermined and predestined, when is it not tricky?
• 33:29
  Curry Badshah: So the whole point of life
• 33:33
  Julie Taparia: Exactly
• 33:34
  Curry Badshah: what were you saying about the whole thing that I went off on?
• 33:39
  Pooja Bhatnagar: To being invited.
• 33:41
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Yeah, so I would say you- it's, it would work, let's say, if you approach someone, but it's, I don't know how successful it would be in the way that you would want it to be, right?
• 33:51
  Pooja Bhatnagar: It, and it might not align as much as you would want it to align.
• 33:55
  Pooja Bhatnagar: It would work.
• 33:56
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Again, like human design is not telling you have to do this.
• 33:59
  Pooja Bhatnagar: It's just a way for you to change up things to see oh, is this actually working because this is my design?
• 34:05
  Pooja Bhatnagar: You're not designed based off, like, how your parents told you to do things, or even how your friend does things, right?
• 34:10
  Pooja Bhatnagar: You are so different from both of them.
• 34:12
  Pooja Bhatnagar: One, like for me, I'm a manifester, and I am supposed to be initiating, and I actually don't.
• 34:18
  Pooja Bhatnagar: I'm supposed to be up to a guy and saying,"Hey let me, can I date you?" And that's mine.
• 34:24
  Pooja Bhatnagar: That's also a part of design.
• 34:25
  Pooja Bhatnagar: But your design, Julie's it's to be invited, and to sit there and read that book, and do your craft, and to be pursued,'cause that
• 34:33
  Curry Badshah: Yeah.
• 34:33
  Pooja Bhatnagar: more aligned
• 34:35
  Curry Badshah: I have a list of of fun questions that I hope you'll be able to answer.
• 34:40
  Curry Badshah: I'm sure you will.
• 34:41
  Curry Badshah: Okay.
• 34:41
  Curry Badshah: So for both of you human design Vedic astrology is so specific, it's attuned to the person.
• 34:50
  Curry Badshah: What is, or is there at least one particular element that you think everyone should know about their human design or their chart that if there's one thing that you follow, it should be this
• 35:04
  Julie Taparia: That's exactly what we did for Painted.
• 35:06
  Julie Taparia: Yeah
• 35:06
  Pooja Bhatnagar: that's exactly what we differentiated, yeah.
• 35:08
  Pooja Bhatnagar: There
• 35:08
  Curry Badshah: Oh my God, y'all get a Paint'd, get Paint'd analysis
• 35:11
  Pooja Bhatnagar: so yeah, so for human design, it's your energy type and how you are, basically it's like how you operate in this world, and the- it's the Types that I went through.
• 35:19
  Pooja Bhatnagar: And yeah, the second one is your profile and that is basically your personality.
• 35:24
  Pooja Bhatnagar: It's just how the world views you and how you view the world.
• 35:27
  Pooja Bhatnagar: So there's two numbers and yeah, so it's your energy type and your profile I would say are the
• 35:33
  Curry Badshah: Okay, cool.
• 35:33
  Curry Badshah: So for human design, energy and profile.
• 35:36
  Curry Badshah: Like those are the, if there's...
• 35:38
  Curry Badshah: Even if you don't believe, just check it out and just try it.
• 35:41
  Curry Badshah: Just read it and keep it in the back of your mind.
• 35:45
  Curry Badshah: Okay.
• 35:45
  Curry Badshah: Julie, for Vedic astrology, what's one thing that like,
• 35:50
  Julie Taparia: so I
• 35:50
  Curry Badshah: what's one thing to walk away with?
• 35:51
  Julie Taparia: lot of people just wonder what are they doing in this world, and what are they doing in their life purpose.
• 35:55
  Julie Taparia: It's called Atma Karaka.
• 35:57
  Julie Taparia: It's, Atma
• 35:57
  Curry Badshah: Ooh.
• 35:58
  Julie Taparia: soul, What your purpose.
• 36:00
  Julie Taparia: What is your sole purpose?
• 36:01
  Julie Taparia: So is it like, for example, is it Mercury?
• 36:05
  Julie Taparia: Like Mercury is communication.
• 36:06
  Julie Taparia: So like it's a planet that kinda des- defines it.
• 36:09
  Julie Taparia: So mine is Mercury actually, so that's why I started, having this to speak up about certain things and certain beliefs and certain systems that I'm learning right now.
• 36:20
  Julie Taparia: Human design, Vedic astrology, Ayurveda, like Vastu, all that stuff fascinates me, and I wanna learn and teach people.
• 36:27
  Julie Taparia: And I think it's very easy to get this knowledge.
• 36:30
  Julie Taparia: It's not hard, and I want people to make it readily available to them.
• 36:34
  Julie Taparia: So I feel like that is my sole purpose.
• 36:37
  Julie Taparia: If it's Jupiter, it could be like, oh, your sole purpose is to get wisdom, marriage, children.
• 36:44
  Curry Badshah: Yeah
• 36:44
  Julie Taparia: is spirituality?
• 36:45
  Julie Taparia: Like everyone has a purpose
• 36:47
  Curry Badshah: It has every...
• 36:47
  Curry Badshah: Yeah.
• 36:48
  Curry Badshah: Like those people who are like,"I want, I'm meant to be a mom," it's like, great.
• 36:51
  Curry Badshah: Like, there's nothing wrong with that.
• 36:53
  Curry Badshah: Like, be- Yeah.
• 36:54
  Curry Badshah: Like, and if it's in your chart, like go off.
• 36:56
  Curry Badshah: Like, go be a mom.
• 36:57
  Curry Badshah: Like
• 36:57
  Julie Taparia: One, two
• 36:58
  Curry Badshah: that could be your whole thing.
• 36:59
  Curry Badshah: So, so the takeaway there is that if there's one thing from Vedic astrology, it's just like your Atma Karaka.
• 37:05
  Curry Badshah: Find-
• 37:05
  Julie Taparia: are walking around aimless, like what are they doing?
• 37:07
  Julie Taparia: They
• 37:08
  Curry Badshah: Yeah.
• 37:08
  Julie Taparia: but deep down it might be something else that's
• 37:11
  Curry Badshah: Unfulfilled.
• 37:12
  Julie Taparia: Exactly
• 37:12
  Curry Badshah: Yeah, I love that.
• 37:13
  Curry Badshah: Okay, now here I have a few things that I've pulled from Sex and the City because of course I'm Carrie Bradshaw and I have to.
• 37:19
  Curry Badshah: So there's an instance where Carrie Bradshaw asks, you know, she does those voiceover things.
• 37:24
  Curry Badshah: She asks out loud"Can you make a mistake and miss your fate, or do our mistakes make our fate?" So I wanted to know, and I guess this is to whoever can feel like they answer the quest- they can answer the question.
• 37:37
  Curry Badshah: Is that possible?
• 37:38
  Curry Badshah: Can we miss our fate, or do our mistakes make our fate?
• 37:43
  Julie Taparia: I believe it's all fated.
• 37:45
  Julie Taparia: So there was a weird example, and this is gory, but we learned this in astrology.
• 37:49
  Julie Taparia: Let's say you're kidnapped, and there's two kids kidnapped.
• 37:52
  Julie Taparia: One of the kids doesn't have the willpower to get out, and one of the kids has the willpower to get out.
• 37:56
  Curry Badshah: Mm-hmm.
• 37:57
  Julie Taparia: luck in that area, but one of them survives, one of them doesn't survive.
• 38:01
  Julie Taparia: One survive?
• 38:02
  Julie Taparia: It's that-- it's their planet, their, maybe their will to fight and
• 38:07
  Curry Badshah: Yeah
• 38:07
  Julie Taparia: out, and like maybe it's that luck in that moment that they found a s- a moment to get out.
• 38:12
  Julie Taparia: And that shows that everything-- the mistakes are not mistakes.
• 38:17
  Julie Taparia: 'Cause there's multiple chances to get married.
• 38:19
  Julie Taparia: It's not just one time.
• 38:20
  Julie Taparia: You can see people, multiple marriages,
• 38:22
  Curry Badshah: for the people in the back.
• 38:23
  Curry Badshah: It's not just one time.
• 38:24
  Julie Taparia: Yes
• 38:25
  Curry Badshah: it's okay
• 38:26
  Julie Taparia: we all know that, right?
• 38:27
  Julie Taparia: We've seen multiple, second marriages, third marriages.
• 38:29
  Julie Taparia: We've seen multiple relationships.
• 38:31
  Julie Taparia: And it's normal.
• 38:31
  Julie Taparia: It's human life.
• 38:32
  Julie Taparia: But
• 38:33
  Curry Badshah: Yeah
• 38:34
  Julie Taparia: that's why I don't think you're really making a mistake.
• 38:36
  Julie Taparia: I think you-- the point of life is to reap the rewards of your good karma and past life deeds and also learn and grow from your weaknesses or mistakes, whatever you wanna say about that.
• 38:48
  Julie Taparia: But
• 38:49
  Curry Badshah: Okay
• 38:49
  Julie Taparia: keep going on doesn't work.
• 38:51
  Julie Taparia: You have to grow in this lifetime to out- overcome your weaknesses.
• 38:55
  Julie Taparia: Feel like there's no such thing as a mistake.
• 38:57
  Julie Taparia: Should've, could've, would've, that's
• 38:58
  Curry Badshah: Yeah.
• 38:59
  Curry Badshah: They make you, they're lessons.
• 39:02
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Yeah
• 39:02
  Curry Badshah: we learn the, we learn the quickest by making a mistake.
• 39:05
  Curry Badshah: You touch a hot plate, you realize don't touch the hot plate.
• 39:07
  Curry Badshah: Like, you learned a lesson immediately
• 39:09
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Yeah.
• 39:10
  Pooja Bhatnagar: I love Sex and the City, so if I really think about every woman that represented a different expression of womanhood in Sex and the City they all flourish through many different things.
• 39:21
  Pooja Bhatnagar: They're all made for...
• 39:22
  Pooja Bhatnagar: They're all designed for different things, and this is their fate.
• 39:24
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Like Charlotte, what is...
• 39:25
  Pooja Bhatnagar: What Charlotte, I would say, through tradition.
• 39:28
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Maybe Samantha through freedom Through ambition, and Carrie through exploration.
• 39:32
  Pooja Bhatnagar: None of them were
• 39:32
  Curry Badshah: Yeah
• 39:33
  Pooja Bhatnagar: They're all, They're all...
• 39:33
  Pooja Bhatnagar: They were s- they were just simply different.
• 39:35
  Pooja Bhatnagar: And so human design, I would say, is, suggests something similar.
• 39:39
  Pooja Bhatnagar: There isn't one blueprint for being human.
• 39:41
  Pooja Bhatnagar: We're all we all look so different and so unique, and that's the best part about our design and people.
• 39:47
  Curry Badshah: Absolutely.
• 39:48
  Curry Badshah: I even had a whole moment of like even like Charlotte, she's rooted in tradition and she wanted the knight in shining armor, her Prince Charming and all this other stuff and she got that out of her first marriage.
• 39:58
  Curry Badshah: Technically she got the handsome like, you know, whatever her Connecticut vibe, upper East Side, whatever.
• 40:04
  Curry Badshah: She got the whole thing- and then didn't have a great marriage.
• 40:06
  Curry Badshah: 'Cause I just recently saw a clip her second marriage and or even falling in love with Harry like he's like the short, pudgy, like sweaty, bald guy that she was like People are questioning how like, you know, why you're with me or I, why I'm with you, like do, when people see us together.
• 40:24
  Curry Badshah: And- Yeah but at the end of the day she had to let go of that and be like,"I love him the way that he is because he like gives, like he's everything else that I wanted." Just because looks-wise he is not checking off all the boxes, at literally in every other way he does and I was like, we love it.
• 40:43
  Curry Badshah: We love the conti- the continued pearls of wisdom that Sex and the City doles out, but I also think it takes like maturity in life for you to pick up on those lessons from a s- from a show like this.
• 40:54
  Curry Badshah: I have, and then one more there's a thing that says or that Carrie says"It's a rule of life that everything you've always wanted comes the second you stop looking for it." That, and she constantly always believes that when you surrender not pursuit that's how the universe delivers.
• 41:09
  Curry Badshah: Now we talked, Pooja, about like being that type of person that it either you know, initiate or you get invited.
• 41:16
  Curry Badshah: So my question was going to be is there truth to this or is there something about us?
• 41:22
  Curry Badshah: But it already got answered in yeah, actually if you find out your human design there's a chance that like you might just be doing things wrong and instead of continuously pursue, either you do need to be in pursuit or you need to be the one pursued.
• 41:36
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Yeah, totally.
• 41:37
  Pooja Bhatnagar: The one pursuit, and there's other ones too.
• 41:39
  Pooja Bhatnagar: You can respond and, every energy type has something different.
• 41:43
  Pooja Bhatnagar: And
• 41:44
  Curry Badshah: you
• 41:44
  Pooja Bhatnagar: but at the same time, I still think we're here s- to surrender, right?
• 41:48
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Like in, in that like we have our way to our strategy
• 41:52
  Curry Badshah: Mm-hmm.
• 41:53
  Pooja Bhatnagar: do things, but then we also have so much open time, and like we have And not overthink during that time.
• 41:59
  Pooja Bhatnagar: So for you
• 42:00
  Curry Badshah: Yeah.
• 42:00
  Pooja Bhatnagar: ignited,
• 42:01
  Curry Badshah: so yours has been done.
• 42:02
  Curry Badshah: You can't
• 42:02
  Pooja Bhatnagar: and if you're like thinking about it and"I need that person to come while I'm sitting here", let it go.
• 42:08
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Just
• 42:09
  Curry Badshah: Yeah
• 42:09
  Pooja Bhatnagar: You know?
• 42:10
  Pooja Bhatnagar: During that time,
• 42:12
  Julie Taparia: Yeah.
• 42:12
  Curry Badshah: It's so hard
• 42:13
  Pooja Bhatnagar: so you So it's like you have both.
• 42:15
  Pooja Bhatnagar: So you have that strategy, but you're also here to surrender.
• 42:19
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Because then if you're thinking of, you're thinking of the outcome, and you're thinking of"Oh my God, is this gonna happen?
• 42:24
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Is it Then is it gonna happen?" Like you're Let's just surrender, and it will happen
• 42:29
  Curry Badshah: Yeah.
• 42:29
  Curry Badshah: I think that's so hard for me is to, like, I know in some ways I'm like,"Okay, I'm gonna surrender and let, you know let the chips fall where they may." But yeah, I do have that sense where when I go I'm like, I'm hoping that, you know, even if I take my book, like I'm, I go and I grab a drink and I hope that someone's gonna talk to me.
• 42:47
  Curry Badshah: But I'm also like, but my worst case scenario is that I've gone and I've read three chapters of my book and had a great cocktail and I went home.
• 42:54
  Pooja Bhatnagar: That's
• 42:54
  Curry Badshah: Like, I'm like, that's my best worst case scenar- like worst case in the sense of like I didn't meet the guy but I had a nice little date to myself.
• 43:01
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Amazing.
• 43:02
  Curry Badshah: Okay.
• 43:02
  Julie Taparia: But another thing and I do wanna talk about that, is that what is...
• 43:06
  Julie Taparia: can see your dasha without even knowing your dasha.
• 43:09
  Julie Taparia: You can see your timing without knowing your timing.
• 43:11
  Julie Taparia: So it's actually your observation and your awareness of what is happening in the past three months.
• 43:18
  Julie Taparia: Are you working a lot?
• 43:19
  Julie Taparia: Are you doing small projects?
• 43:20
  Julie Taparia: Are you going on many dates?
• 43:22
  Julie Taparia: What is the theme of the last three months or six months?
• 43:24
  Julie Taparia: And that is your dasha.
• 43:26
  Julie Taparia: If you see an i- uptick in guys chasing after you or guys wanting to be with you, that's the time where it might be a relationship dasha.
• 43:37
  Julie Taparia: If you're going through a lot of small projects and writing and talking and communicating, it might be a time for making your personal brand.
• 43:46
  Julie Taparia: So there is, you know in your heart you don't have to pigeonhole yourself or you Like you have to be a certain person Know what is going on in your life during those events that are happening without even you realizing it.
• 43:59
  Curry Badshah: Yeah, I have noticed it's like
• 44:02
  Julie Taparia: that's kind
• 44:02
  Curry Badshah: of a sudden there's a little bit more attention on me and I'm like,"Oh, okay."
• 44:06
  Julie Taparia: Yeah, and it could grow.
• 44:07
  Julie Taparia: But that period, it...
• 44:08
  Julie Taparia: do you feel star- Are you starting to feel something?
• 44:11
  Julie Taparia: 'Cause a lot of people can always have guys in their life, but then they don't feel anything.
• 44:14
  Julie Taparia: It's not a Right?
• 44:15
  Julie Taparia: It's a marriage time period when they start feeling like,"Oh, this is intense for me and I feel this gut feeling about it." But they've had guys their whole entire life, but this is different, and that could be the signal.
• 44:24
  Curry Badshah: Yeah
• 44:26
  Julie Taparia: I'm just saying know yourself.
• 44:29
  Julie Taparia: You know yourself better than anyone else, so know your in- your interactions, your experiences, and map them out in a journal, and you can find out kind of what is your time period.
• 44:38
  Julie Taparia: I know it's weird, but it works,
• 44:39
  Curry Badshah: thank you both.
• 44:40
  Curry Badshah: I could talk, I could dive deeper and deeper into all of this with both of you.
• 44:44
  Curry Badshah: I'm definitely gonna get a painted analysis done because, like, now that we've had this conversation, it's, like, at the top of my mind, and I have so much that I'm gonna take home with me.
• 44:53
  Curry Badshah: I hope everyone else also learned a little something today.
• 44:56
  Curry Badshah: And I hope this is the podcast that you know, y'all are listening to and say,"Oh my God, maybe I will dive a little bit deeper.
• 45:02
  Curry Badshah: Maybe I will check out what my human design is.
• 45:04
  Curry Badshah: Maybe I will check out what my birth chart says.
• 45:07
  Curry Badshah: And maybe I will get a painted analysis." Maybe you're gonna, you're gonna say that to yourself as well.
• 45:11
  Curry Badshah: But thank you so much, Pooja and Julie, for taking the time here to chat with me about all of this.
• 45:17
  Julie Taparia: curious, wonderful young woman
• 45:19
  Pooja Bhatnagar: cute.
• 45:19
  Pooja Bhatnagar: Oh my God, yeah.
• 45:20
  Pooja Bhatnagar: You're amazing.
• 45:21
  Pooja Bhatnagar: You're
• 45:22
  Curry Badshah: thank you so much.
• 45:23
  Curry Badshah: That,
• 45:24
  Pooja Bhatnagar: loved it
• 45:24
  Curry Badshah: just here yapping about some shit that just in- interests me, and I hope...
• 45:30
  Curry Badshah: I'm like, I can't...
• 45:31
  Curry Badshah: No, no one is alone in their thoughts and preferences of stuff.
• 45:34
  Curry Badshah: So-
• 45:35
  Julie Taparia: yeah.
• 45:36
  Curry Badshah: yeah, so I'm like there's gonna be more people who are just as curious as me and wanna know how they can, tell aunties that like,"Hey, this is just...
• 45:44
  Curry Badshah: I am this way because of this reason, or this is my fate for this reason," and be able to give an answer.
• 45:49
  Curry Badshah: But again, thank you so much for being here.
• 45:52
  Curry Badshah: I, I hope everyone else also, like I said, has something to take away from this, and we'll catch you next time
• 46:03
  I don't know if you could tell, but I had so much fun talking about all of this.
• 46:07
  And when I was editing, I edited out about, like, 10 minutes, uh, or so of tangents, uh, that all this information took me in.
• 46:17
  Um, but I have not yet gotten a painted analysis because I have been informed that they are actually reworking their offerings.
• 46:26
  Uh, but if you are interested in diving deeper into human design, please follow Pooja Bhatnagar, um, Pooj Bhatnagar on Instagram and lifeofpooj on Tik- TikTok.
• 46:36
  She has a few different offerings like clarity sessions, practitioner blueprint, and Revel Place, which is to help connect folks with more practitioners.
• 46:45
  Julie is available via email and through theancientblueprint.com to get your Vedic chart read.
• 46:52
  I highly recommend her.
• 46:54
  I mentioned she read my chart, and it definitely feels less intimidating to go with her than some random uncle that your family would be using out in India because I've had my parents, like, trickle the message down to me, and I'm like,"I have follow-up questions to these." So it really does help to kinda just be able to put my questions to her and have her just, like, directly respond in a way that does not feel intimidating at all.
• 47:22
  If you continue to follow me, there will be some discount codes available, uh, for the painted profile once that gets set up.
• 47:32
  And all the information that I mentioned for Pooja and Julie will be available in the description of this episode.
• 47:39
  I hope you did enjoy that, and thanks again for listening, and I'll catch you on the next one.