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  Speaker 3: Look, I will I'll dive knee deep into my DK
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  Speaker 3: Metcalf thoughts here. I'll just give you the cliffs notes
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  Speaker 3: version right now. Okay, So DK Metcalf, the Steelers wide receiver,
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  Speaker 3: his suspension was upheld. He's gonna be suspended for two
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  Speaker 3: games and he's gonna miss the final two regular season
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  Speaker 3: games for the Steelers. They need one win in these
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  Speaker 3: final two games to clinch the division and to get
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  Speaker 3: a playoff spot. So they take on the Steelers and
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  Speaker 3: the Ravens. Those are their final two games, and so
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  Speaker 3: having DK Metcalf in uniform for either of those two
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  Speaker 3: games would help a lot. It's been a house of
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  Speaker 3: horrors for the Steelers at Cleveland. If you can believe
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  Speaker 3: that they've.
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  Speaker 4: Lost many, many, many many.
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  Speaker 3: Times in Cleveland, and so to not have their top
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  Speaker 3: receiver hurts. If they don't beat Cleveland this weekend, then
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  Speaker 3: they host the Steelers for the division. Obviously, Pittsburgh doesn't
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  Speaker 3: want it, doesn't want it to come down to that,
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  Speaker 3: but that's the scenario. So DK he now loses five
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  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty five thousand dollars for missing these final
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  Speaker 3: two games. That's what he's docked in salary. And also
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  Speaker 3: his guaranteed money is voided. The forty five million dollars
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  Speaker 3: in guaranteed money that he had on his contract is voided.
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  Speaker 3: And so that throws a ranch into things that the
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  Speaker 3: Steelers think about moving in a different direction now that
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  Speaker 3: the guarantees are voided. I mean, he's still been a
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  Speaker 3: really good receiver for them, so that might not change anything.
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  Speaker 4: What really, what's funny to me?
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  Speaker 3: First off, before I get into the you know, the
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  Speaker 3: knee deep part of this, we throw around these crazy
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  Speaker 3: figures with millions of dollars. Well, I don't know about you,
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  Speaker 3: but it's like white noise to me. If they're just like, ah,
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  Speaker 3: this quarterback signs a two hundred and fifty five million
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  Speaker 3: dollar contract it's just like map, it's just these numbers.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's just the going rate. You know, when it
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  Speaker 3: really sinks in how much money we're talking about is
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  Speaker 3: a game check, you know, two game checks for DK Metcalf,
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  Speaker 3: it's slightly over five hundred and fifty five thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 4: And again, that's the going rate.
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  Speaker 3: If you can do what DK Metcalf can do on
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  Speaker 3: a football field, you will make the same money. It
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  Speaker 3: generates all of this interest, the league generates all this money.
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  Speaker 3: That's the going rate. I have no issue whatsoever with
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  Speaker 3: what players make, but it just hits home where it's
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  Speaker 3: like five hundred and fifty five k. That's he's just
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  Speaker 3: lost that money because of two game checks.
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  Speaker 4: That's unbelievable to me.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys are the same way,
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  Speaker 3: But when it breaks down to a per game basis,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, show, hey, Otani misses out on how much
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  Speaker 3: money for missing this Friday game?
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  Speaker 4: Holy hell No, it's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: How much this money, you know, equates to on a
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  Speaker 3: game by game basis. But the real part of this
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  Speaker 3: whole thing with DK is, Look, I'm gonna be as
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  Speaker 3: honest with you as possible. We start with the central truth, okay,
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  Speaker 3: and no matter where the conversation goes from this point on,
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  Speaker 3: the central truth is DK Metcalf can't do what he did.
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  Speaker 3: That is the central truth. You can't lose sight of
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  Speaker 3: that central truth. And with this Yahoo whatever he had
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  Speaker 3: to say, what's this jackass? His name Ryan Kennedy. It's
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  Speaker 3: funny some of the things that he's talking.
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  Speaker 4: But of course the.
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  Speaker 3: Allegations that he called DK the N word, called DK's
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  Speaker 3: mom the C word, totally false, like completely fabricated.
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  Speaker 4: You know, what do you think he was saying? Really?
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  Speaker 3: Do you think he was like, hey, DK, Merry Christmas,
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  Speaker 3: and DK just wanted to punch this guy's lights out.
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  Speaker 3: He of course, he was saying some wild stuff and
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  Speaker 3: he's turned into you know this lot of latter day
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  Speaker 3: saying like.
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  Speaker 4: Me slur, What does slur even mean? I don't even
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  Speaker 4: know what slur? Come on, man, Like, he.
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  Speaker 3: Probably said some crazy wild stuff. And this is the
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  Speaker 3: part where we start to maybe get away from the
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  Speaker 3: central truth. Central truth, DK Metcalf can't do what he did.
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  Speaker 3: But with this guy, I think it's really easy to
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  Speaker 3: sit from your your couch and say what I'm saying
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  Speaker 3: DK can't do that.
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  Speaker 4: What's tough is being in those.
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  Speaker 3: Shoes and hearing what whatver this Yahoo fan had to say.
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  Speaker 3: And you've got to be professional, You've got to keep
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  Speaker 3: your cool. You can't overreact. It is really, really difficult
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  Speaker 3: to do that, and DK messed up. It sucks because
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  Speaker 3: look at what it's cost him. It's cost him five
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  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty five thousand dollars for two game checks.
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  Speaker 3: His guaranteed money is voided. He suspended for the final
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  Speaker 3: two games of the season. How is he winning?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 3: What did he win? What did he gain? Where's the
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  Speaker 3: win here? It's just l's all across the board, l
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  Speaker 3: l l l l l L. I'll tell you what
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  Speaker 3: if I put myself in those shoes, and let's just
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  Speaker 3: say this Yahoo fan said that DK's mom is the
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  Speaker 3: C word. Like if I'm in DK shoes, I'm the
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  Speaker 3: NFL wide receiver, like suspend you know reality for a second,
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  Speaker 3: I'm in DK shoes and this fan says that my
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  Speaker 3: mom is a C word. I'd want to kill him
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  Speaker 3: in that moment. Best believe I would want to kill him.
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  Speaker 3: And it's easier said than done to not overreact, to
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  Speaker 3: not do what DK did. There are plenty of people
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  Speaker 3: saying DK can't do that, DK shouldn't do that. DK
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  Speaker 3: is wrong for doing that, but they would have done
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  Speaker 3: the same thing or worse in those same shoes. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: me being one of those people, I don't know. If
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  Speaker 3: I'm on a team, I'm a professional, I know I
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  Speaker 3: can't do that, but not being able to do it,
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  Speaker 3: can't doing it and not doing it, those are different
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  Speaker 3: things right there. The movie The Taking of Pelham one
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  Speaker 3: two three, it's a random movie choice by me, but
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  Speaker 3: it comes into my mind very good, underrated movie by
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  Speaker 3: the way, very overlooked. It's what Denzel Washington, John Travolta
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  Speaker 3: is in that thing. But there's a scene with John
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  Speaker 3: turturo and I'll I won't bore you with the whole setup.
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  Speaker 3: But at one point he says in the movie, you've
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  Speaker 3: entered his world. Now exit it. And that was the
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  Speaker 3: first mistake that DK made. He entered the fans world
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  Speaker 3: by walking over there. That was the first mistake. He
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  Speaker 3: should have exited that world, but he was there, the
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  Speaker 3: fans said whatever he had to say. DK in that
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  Speaker 3: moment reacted the way that he did, and now he's
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  Speaker 3: suspended for the final two games. Docked all this money
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  Speaker 3: in salary game checks these final two games, his guaranteed money.
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  Speaker 4: Just can't do it, man, not in a team sport.
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  Speaker 4: That's the other thing.
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  Speaker 3: It's one thing if you know, DK is a tennis
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  Speaker 3: player and he does this, and they deal with him somehow, someway.
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  Speaker 3: He's a member of a team. He's hurting the team
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  Speaker 3: by doing that. And I hate the Yahoo fan didn't
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  Speaker 3: even get kicked out of the game. That's the crazy thing.
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  Speaker 3: It's like some of the things that these players here.
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  Speaker 3: I never subscribed to this thought of, Hey, I bought
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  Speaker 3: my ticket, so what now I have free reign. I
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  Speaker 3: can just be the biggest a hole on the planet.
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  Speaker 3: And it's okay because I spent whatever it was. I
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  Speaker 3: spent two hundred and fifty bucks to sit close and
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  Speaker 3: now I'm just going to be arectum the whole game.
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  Speaker 3: That's not good enough, man, Like the standards have to
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  Speaker 3: be way better. I'll tell you a brief story and
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  Speaker 3: we'll continue this as the night goes on. Plenty of
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  Speaker 3: other things to talk about, but this is, you know,
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  Speaker 3: hot on my mind here. The suspension's been upheld. DK
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  Speaker 3: suspended for the final two games of the season. Fee
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  Speaker 3: So we go back to the year two thousand and five. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: So I was I was doing the Notre Dame football
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  Speaker 3: pre game show. And what was really really cool about
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  Speaker 3: that I could go to the games and I could
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  Speaker 3: go down to the field for the final five minutes
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  Speaker 3: of the game.
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  Speaker 4: It was awesome.
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  Speaker 3: So I was there for the Bush push game, the
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  Speaker 3: famous game USC beats Notre Dame at Notre Dame, obviously,
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  Speaker 3: and I was on the field for the final five
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  Speaker 3: minutes of that game. So the game ends, USC wins,
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  Speaker 3: Reggie Bush pushes Matt Leinert into the end zone Trojan's win.
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  Speaker 3: I was on the field just running around, you know,
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  Speaker 3: And then I saw Reggie Bush and Lendale White, and
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  Speaker 3: for whatever reason, I was just walking behind them as
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  Speaker 3: they were walking off the field. They're just walking into
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  Speaker 3: the tunnel leaving the stadium, and the things that were
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  Speaker 3: being yelled, I don't not just at them, but just
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  Speaker 3: at USC in general. It wasn't racial that I heard.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't like that, but it was you.
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  Speaker 4: F and b mother f as you F. Yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 4: just like, holy cow, what really took me? Aback?
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  Speaker 3: I'm watching Reggie Bush and Lendale White just walk off
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  Speaker 3: the field, not engaging with these ridiculous fans, not yelling
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  Speaker 3: at them, total pros, as if they didn't even hear anything.
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  Speaker 3: And I remember walking behind these guys and just being
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  Speaker 3: so impressed with how they handled that, and I didn't
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  Speaker 3: want to bother that. I guess I should have gone
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  Speaker 3: up to them been like, hey, man, props to you guys.
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  Speaker 3: That was amazing. I'm sorry. I felt like I should
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  Speaker 3: apologize on behalf of those fans. I'm from South Bend,
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  Speaker 3: I love Notre Dame football. I felt like I owed
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  Speaker 3: them an apology just based on how these idiots were acting,
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  Speaker 3: Like no one should hear that stuff, but it's so common, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 3: you know that like the f u's that's just like baseline.
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  Speaker 3: It just comes with the territory. It's like a shoulder shrug.
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  Speaker 3: It shouldn't be, but that's how it is. But what
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  Speaker 3: it escalates to what DK Metcalf might have heard and
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  Speaker 3: what that fan might have said, allegedly calling Dk the
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  Speaker 3: N word, his mom the C word, It's like, how
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  Speaker 3: is that acceptable on any level? That fan has got
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  Speaker 3: to be out of there immediately. That is so unacceptable
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  Speaker 3: and I'm telling you what, man, these leagues got to
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  Speaker 3: do a much better job of protecting their players because
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  Speaker 3: they're putting these players in a position where it's like,
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  Speaker 3: if you're not gonna police this stuff, you're kind of indirectly.
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  Speaker 4: Asking me to do that.
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  Speaker 3: You got to take care of this, so it's not
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  Speaker 3: on me to do something about it. And so I
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  Speaker 3: see a lot of sides to this, but again we
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  Speaker 3: get back to the central truth. DK Metcalf can't react
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  Speaker 3: that way and cannot do what he did. And for
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  Speaker 3: anyone who's like, well why not, you know as well
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  Speaker 3: as I do. The NFL can't have that. No sports
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  Speaker 3: league can have that. You can't have a situation where
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  Speaker 3: a player either goes into the stands, approaches the stans,
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  Speaker 3: engages with the fan, throws a punch at a fen.
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  Speaker 3: You cannot have that because really, what's your sales pitch
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  Speaker 3: as a league. Your sales pitch is like, hey, come
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  Speaker 3: on out and see the games, but act right or
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  Speaker 3: else you're gonna get your ass kicked like that. That's
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  Speaker 3: not a sales pitch at all. You can't have that
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  Speaker 3: as a league. So of course they're gonna suspend DK.
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  Speaker 3: They have no choice but to suspend him. He's lucky
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  Speaker 3: that there were at least two regular season games left
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  Speaker 3: and they could say, all right, it's more than just
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  Speaker 3: one game. We'll call it good as far as that goes.
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  Speaker 3: If this is the final regular season game, that that's
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  Speaker 3: not enough. Is he docked a playoff game as well?
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  Speaker 3: Who knows, who knows where it goes. But it's a
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  Speaker 3: bad situation for him, it's a bad situation for the Steelers,
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  Speaker 3: and unfortunately, this idiot fan he gets this fifteen minutes
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  Speaker 3: of fame for allegedly saying what he said.
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  Speaker 4: I hate it.
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  Speaker 3: I wish you could kick that guy's ass. I wish
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  Speaker 3: it was fine to do that, but you can't. And
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  Speaker 3: DK is gonna be on the wrong end of that
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  Speaker 3: whole situation. Your thoughts feel free to check in eight
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  Speaker 3: seven to seven ninety nine on Fox. You gotta be
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  Speaker 3: a pro and you can't engage. You can't you can't
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  Speaker 3: stoop to a lower level man. And I hate that.
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  Speaker 3: I hate that. I've seen many instances where man, so
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  Speaker 3: many fans deserved to.
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  Speaker 4: Just be.
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  Speaker 3: Ah yeah exactly, just knocked out cold for some of
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  Speaker 3: the things that they're saying. Met The other thing I
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  Speaker 3: don't understand, is I come back to this last thing.
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  Speaker 4: I'll say real fast, as I'm just blowing up the clock,
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  Speaker 4: I am not.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not like Simpatico with a clock integrity right now
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  Speaker 3: as I talked about my life for nine minutes. I'm
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  Speaker 3: sorry about that. I apologize. This is what blows my mind,
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  Speaker 3: Like we just look at it one way where it's
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  Speaker 3: like this stupid fan Dk Metcalf, he did what he
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  Speaker 3: did in the ramifications, What should what shouldn't have happened?
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  Speaker 4: YadA, YadA.
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  Speaker 3: What I can't get beyond is some fan next to
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  Speaker 3: that Yahoo fan heard what the Yahoo fan had to say.
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  Speaker 3: How to these fans sitting nearby, just accept that if
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  Speaker 3: I heard, and I don't know if this was what
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  Speaker 3: was said, but let's just say it was. If I
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  Speaker 3: heard a fan called DK Metcalf the N word and
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  Speaker 3: his mom the C word, I would have been like, Dk,
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  Speaker 3: don't worry about I got this bad like that guy
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  Speaker 3: would have been heave hoed onto the field. I don't
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  Speaker 3: understand these fans sitting around like they're just like, eh,
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  Speaker 3: they just let it happen.
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  Speaker 4: How do you let that happen?
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  Speaker 3: You're an equal like Unfortunately, DK is not an equal
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  Speaker 3: of the fan.
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  Speaker 4: He's a player.
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  Speaker 3: He's going to get dealt with a lot more severely
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  Speaker 3: if he engages with the fan and throws a punch
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  Speaker 3: at the fan compared to fan on fan violence. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I can't say I could just like deck this guy
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  Speaker 3: and throw them on the field and it's all good.
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  Speaker 3: Like there'd be lawsuits, there'd be all kinds of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I realize that.
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  Speaker 4: But how do you just sit there and do nothing?
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  Speaker 4: How That's what blows my mind the most.
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  Speaker 1: That is the mentality of people today, Brian, Like you said,
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  Speaker 1: we stand there, we take our phones out and we
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  Speaker 1: record it. We don't get involved because if you get involved,
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  Speaker 1: you also get kicked out.
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  Speaker 4: You would also receive those repercussions.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're right, And that's the bad thing about it.
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  Speaker 4: What is man?
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  Speaker 3: I love the movie Training Day. Love the movie Training
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  Speaker 3: Day with Denzel And if you ever watch you ever
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  Speaker 3: watched like the director's cut or whether it's commentary on
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  Speaker 3: a movie it used to be able to buy.
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  Speaker 4: I haven't bought a DVD in front. I've ever seen
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  Speaker 4: a movie like that.
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  Speaker 3: Oh you gotta do it like that? When Antoine Fuqua
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  Speaker 3: when he was doing the he was talking over the movie,
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  Speaker 3: so many great stories, so many things about the movie
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  Speaker 3: was tremendously it was awesome, it was great, But it
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  Speaker 3: was one of the things. I think it's when Jake
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  Speaker 3: goes to confront Denzel and the neighborhood basically has Jake's back, right,
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  Speaker 3: And it was somewhere along that line that time, and
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  Speaker 3: now I think it was when Jake he went to
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  Speaker 3: go confront Denzel in that whole scene, but he quoted
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  Speaker 3: it was a famous quote, and Antoine said, that's like
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  Speaker 3: at the heart of the movie, where it's the world
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  Speaker 3: is in evil place, not just because of the evil,
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  Speaker 3: evil people in it, but because of the people who
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  Speaker 3: do nothing about it. And that's like the theme of
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  Speaker 3: the whole movie, Like what are you gonna do about this?
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  Speaker 3: And that's it's your right, Lorraine. It's like, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: take up my phone, I'm gonna post this on X
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  Speaker 3: and that's it.
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  Speaker 4: That's all you're gonna do. I'm gonna go viral for this.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go viral because I'm like selfieing me kicking
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  Speaker 3: this guy's ass because he deserves it, Like are you?
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  Speaker 3: I would never allow something like that happen. I don't
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  Speaker 3: care if I get kicked. I don't care if I
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  Speaker 3: get dealt with. I don't care in that moment. This
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  Speaker 3: is what needs to happen. And sorry, Judge, Like, I
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  Speaker 3: think I'm in the right to some degree for doing this.
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  Speaker 4: But uh yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's the other thing is the fans who just kind
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  Speaker 3: of sit there and like, whoa, wow, that guy's it crazy.
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  Speaker 4: That's all you did.
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  Speaker 3: You just thought he was kind of crazy, and you
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  Speaker 3: just let things happen. He's there the rest of the game,
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  Speaker 3: like he deserves to be there.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. I just don't get that at all.
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• 17:35
  Speaker 4: What are you doing? Were interrupting our promo? Yeah? He
• 17:37
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• 17:39
  Speaker 2: You took those clips totally out of context.
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well after this promo, I'm gonna take you
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: out and beat you.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: Let me put this into context. Shut up. Yeah.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: Anyway, just listen to the Polly and Tony Fosco Show
• 17:51
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• 17:57
  Speaker 3: And we'll stick with the the NFL vibe and coincidentally
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: the Steelers vibe here because I think there's an accomplishment
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: that is insane and a lot of us just glossing
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: over it. So the Steelers, by beating the Lions this
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: last Sunday, they've clinched another winning season in a row,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: another one. That's twenty two straight winning seasons. And Mike
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Tomlin has been the head coach for nineteen of those
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: twenty two seasons. So for Mike Tomlin to have nineteen
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: straight winning seasons, that is an outrageously great accomplishment. Like,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: not one losing season, not one year where you lost
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: a bunch of close games.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: Look at the Chiefs. Look at the Chiefs.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: From last year to this year. They won all those
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: one possession games last year, all of them, and then
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: this year hardly any of them. And that's with Mahomes
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: healthy throughout most of the season. He got banged up
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: up last week and now he's out for the season.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: They already had a losing record anyway with Mahomes. He
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: was upright for what fourteen fifteen games something like that,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: almost the whole season. Still losing season. That's you know,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: getting to the super Bowl for three straight seasons, winning
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: two of them, and they were gonna have a losing
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: record with Mahomes. That's insane. So for the Steelers and
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin, nineteen straight seasons, not one year where he
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: had a brutal schedule. Look at the Lions gauntlet this season.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Their road schedule is just hideous. Have you If I
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: just rattle off what they had to face on the
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: road this season, I'll get it for you real quick.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: There's not one year where the Steelers faced this ridiculous paths.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Here's what the Lions had on the road at the Packers,
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: at the Ravens, at the Bengals, at the Chiefs, at
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: the Commanders, at the Eagles, at the Rams, at the Vikings,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: at the Bears.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: That's free and brutal, man.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: And based on how things kind of ebbed and flowed, like,
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: for instance, on the road at Minnesota. It's not as
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: nasty as it once looked. Right, there's not even JJ McCarthy.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: It's the Max Brosmer Show. We'll get more into that.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: But still a ridiculous road schedule for the Lions, or
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: even more so with the Steelers. Nineteen straight from Mike Tomlin.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: A year where you just had a ton of injuries.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: The injury bug just hit you hard. Lions last year,
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: injuries all over the place, right, So they haven't had
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: one year where they lost a bunch of close games.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: They either had a brutal schedule, they had a ton
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: of injuries. You know, they had some bad lugs, crazy bounces.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Look at the quarterbacks that they've had throughout this winning streak,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: you go back, it's been there for a long time.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: With Mike Tomlin, he took over an nine. Actually sorry,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: he took over an seven for Bill Cower. Look at
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: some of these quarterbacks. But so he had Big Ben
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: all the way up until twenty eighteen. Then it's well
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: a little bit longer than that. Twenty one you had
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Mason Rudolph. These are your leading passers, Mason Rudolph Kenny
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Pickett for two years, Russell Wilson. Know he's got Duck
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Hodges in there for a little bit. Look look at
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: these quarterbacks that he's done it with not one losing season.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: And look, I'm not telling you that this is like
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: on par with winning a super Bowl. Of course, the
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: accomplishment that you're gonna get more props for and more
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: roses for, You're gonna get more bouquets for winning.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: A super Bowl. We all know that that's the way
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: it goes.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: And when you have all of this success, you're kind
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: of like the nineties Atlanta Braves, you know, when you
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: win all these division championships and.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: We're like, well, where are the World Series rings?
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: You got one, that's it, Where's where's all the six
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: World Series? Wise, if you're winning the division, that's great,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: but you gotta win it all at some point. That's
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: the way it goes. I get that. But I think this,
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: and this might be a little bit radical, but you
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: gotta let it digest, you know, you gotta let it
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: swirl around your brain a little bit. But I think
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: that winning having a winning record nineteen straight seasons, I
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: think that it's actually harder to do than win a
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl. I honestly believe that. Look, you can have
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: one year where things are just going your way. Look
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: at this season. Look at the Bears. The Bears have
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: had and I don't expect them to win a Super Bowl,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: but they're in position. They're in position seating wise, where
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: you win a couple of games and all of a sudden, man,
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: you're in the NFC Championship game. You got a chance
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: to make some real noise. Look at all the breaks
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: that they've gotten this season. They had what a point
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: five percent chance to beat the Packers this past Sunday,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: zero point five before they got the on side kick.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Unbelievable that they got that win somehow, some way. And
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: maybe I'm getting my dates mixed up. I don't know
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: if that was Saturday. I think it was Saturday. It
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: was late Saturday night. Technically it was Saturday night. A
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: point five percent chance. They have had six wins this
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: season where they trailed in the final two minutes.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: That's ridiculous.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: They've gotten all these wins, all these breaks. Last year,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: the Washington Commanders got a lot of breaks, one being
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: against the Bears. You know, they had the hail Mary
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: against the Bears. He had a Bears player talking smack
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: to the fans while the hail mary is going on,
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: and Washington caught it. And look, man, Jayden Daniels was
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: sensational last season. I'm not saying it's all luck, but
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: they had a lot of lucky breaks. The Bears have
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: the golden horseshoe this season. They're eleven and four, or
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: they have six wins where they rallied in the final
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: two minutes. That is unsustainable to a t and yet
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: here they are. So the point is, you can have
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: a season where you're good and then man, there's a
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: lot of stuff that goes your way.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: There are a lot of.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Things that a bounce here, abounts there. Hey, the Packers
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: recover the on side kick, Well, guess what, you lose
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: that game, you know what I mean.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: It's stuff like that.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: And you can believe that you create your own luck,
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: and there's some truth to that, but there are a
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: lot of lucky breaks that just coincidentally happen for teams
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: randomly from season to season, and one year it's your season,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: the other year it is not. Like, for instance, the Lions,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: this season is not their year.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: For luck, it just is not.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Look at the game against the Steelers on Sunday, right
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: before halftime, Kenneth Gainwell is getting hit by a linebacker,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Alex Angeloni. It's gonna be a pass interference penalty. There's
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: only two seconds left in the in the half. You
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: know the Steelers going to kick a field goal, but instead,
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: while getting tackled to the ground, Kenneth Gainwell sticks his
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: arm out, the ball hits his forearm, he just catches it,
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: runs into the end zone for a touchdown with two
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: seconds left in the half. You're telling me that's not
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: an unfortunate break for the Lions. Of course it is.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: And stuff like that where those things have happened more
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: often this season than not for the.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Lions, and it is just not their year.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Man, One thing after another, just things are going wrong,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: snowballing the whole thing. So you can get lucky one
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: year on top of being good, and you get in
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: a rhythm, you start stacking wins, and all of a sudden,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: you're knocking on the door to win a Super Bowl.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: I don't want to make it sound like it's easy,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: but I do think it's easier than nineteen straight seasons.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Of winning. That's what Mike Tomlin has done. I don't
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: think we can gloss over that. You know, what I
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: think is half opening. Honestly, I think this is the
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: worst franchise to have a winning streak like this. Fours
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers. They've won six Super Bowls. They have
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: a rich tradition. Yes, they were horrible, yes, in the thirties, forties, fifties,
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Yet we get to the seventies, they're printing super Bowls.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: They're winning four out of six seasons.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: They've stacked two more on top of that, since they're
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: one of the proudest franchise and most respected franchises in.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: All of sports, not just the NFL.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: So to win nineteen straight, have nineteen straight winning seasons
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: and won Super Bowl, most people are gonna be like,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: here we go again with Tomlin and the lack of
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: playoff success, and that's what he's more so known for,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: and I hate that. Imagine if Mike Tomlin was the
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Jacksonville Jaguars head coach, let's just say Leam Cohen is
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: doing a fantastic job. But let's just say Liam Cohen
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: is out of that job two years from now. Right,
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: things are going great right now, expectations rays and then
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, the wheels just fall off the tracks.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: We're talking disastrous seasons, losing seasons. He's out of a job. Okay,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: just follow me on this. Imagine Mike Tomlin taking over
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: for the Jacksonville Jaguars. He not only wins a Super Bowl,
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: he has nineteen straight winning seasons. What do you think
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: we'd be saying about that guy? Then we'd be like,
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: this guy's amazing. He walks on water as a coach.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: But he's doing it with the Steelers, So we're just like, yawn,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: not impressed.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Where's the playoff success, Mike? Where are the super Bowls?
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that's wrong because he does need that.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: He does need more playoff success, he does need another
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl. But both things can be true, like he
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: needs more playoff success, But at the same time, nineteen
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: straight winning seasons is an outstanding accomplishment and I don't
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: think we should just gloss over it. If you look
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: at some of the best runs in NFL history, there
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: are multiple times where teams won multiple championships and didn't
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: come close to nineteen straight winning seasons. Like if you
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: look at the Steelers. Let's use that same franchise. If
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: you go back to the seventies, they won four super
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Bowls in six years.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: Along that span, they only had nine.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Straight winning seasons. Nine not even half of what Tomlin
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: has done. Right from nineteen seventy two to nineteen eighty
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: that was it eighty one, they were five hundred as
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: not a winning season. They only had nine straight winning seasons.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: And this is not an either or discussion. Of course,
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: you will take what's behind door one, which is four
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: super bowls in that span, over what's behind door two,
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: which would be Mike Tomlin having nineteen straight winning seasons.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: This is not which is better, which is more impressed?
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Of course, four super Bowls, that's what you're in the
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: business for. That's what Mike Tomlin would take immediately. That's
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: not what the discussion is. The discussion is, let's not
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: gloss over nineteen straight winning seasons as if it's nothing,
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: as if it doesn't even matter. Look at the teams
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: with losing records this season. If I told you before
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: the season, the Chiefs are gonna have a losing record,
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: the Bengals are gonna have a losing record, Possibly the
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Ravens are gonna have a losing record. You'd be like, okay,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: all right, did all those quarterbacks get hurt in Week one?
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: It'd be like, well, Burrow kind of did almost week one,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: but Lamar he missed a couple of games.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: We'll get to Lamar in a second.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, back contusion not out there, unreal. But
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Mahomes was healthy throughout most of the year. And they're
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: gonna have a losing record. It's not easy to have
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: winning records for that long.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Meller
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Okay, so I gotta be the bad guy here, gotta
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: be the bad guy. But what I'm saying it's true,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: or what I'm saying is the truth right here when
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: it comes to one Lamar Jackson, Raven's quarterback. What's the
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: deal with Lamar Jackson? You ask, Well, we have the
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: official designation from his injury that knocked him out of
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: the game on Sunday night against the Patriots. The head
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: coach John Harbaugh has come out and said that it
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: is let me see hold on because I had it
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: in my notes, have so many notes right here. It's
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: crazy like I'm just looking down. We've got Philip Rivers
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: in the rundown, Notre Dame. I don't know if I'm
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: gonna get to them. Oh, Stafford's here. Coop was ticked
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: off at me on Sunday.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: We've got that.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Let's see playoff scenarios. Got all kinds of stuff, Draymond Green,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: gosh Anti tanking, all kinds of stuff, Lots lots of content.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Machine over here. Oh here, it is Lamar Jackson. Sorry,
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: but the the official injury designation what caused him to
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: miss most of the game Sunday night against the Patriots.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: It was a loss for the Ravens, big setback. It
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: is what's known as too much sand in the vagina
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: is what the official injury designation is for Lamar Jackson.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: It's a day to day with a Sandy Vijay is
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: what listen you gotta give. He's got a back contusion,
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: all right, That's what the real.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: Thing is, me being a radio idiot. The other part
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: of it.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: He has a back contusion, which sounds severely Holy Kyle,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: I didn't know what a contusion was years ago. It's
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: a running joke with my mom which is like, oh,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: you might have a contusion.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: It's a bruise. It's a bruise.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, now listen, like a back contusion. I'm not saying
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: it's a walk in the park. I'm not saying it
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: isn't painful. But it's something you can play with, you
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: can get back on the field in a game you
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: gotta have.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: And yet here we are again.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Now before I go further, let me just say this
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: for anyone out there, I know that Lamar man he's
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: got some ride or die folks with him in his
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: corner that are like wolverines ready to pounce on the
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: slightest thing that said that's critical of their guy, Lamar.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: I like Lamar. It's not personal.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: The one thing I'll say about Lamar that I absolutely
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: love about the guy.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: He never threw it in our face.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Like before he was in the NFL, there was all
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: this talk about is he gonna be a wide receiver.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: He's answering questions during the NFL combine like, Hey, are
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: you gonna work out with the receiver?
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: He's like, no, sir, I'm a quarterback. Are you gonna
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: like run forties with the wide receipt? No? No, I'm
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: a quarterback. He never threw it in our face.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: That is a two time MVP, probably should have been
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: a three time MVP, and.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: He never was like MVP. Now what you thought I
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: was gonna be a wide receiver, I'm an MVP. What
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: do you have to say?
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Say?
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: No, he never threw it in our face. He's been
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: a total pro.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: I love Lamar for that. I really respect him for that.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: So trust me when I say this, this is not
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: critical to a fault. I'm not a Lamar hater. I
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: don't feel any certain way about the guy. It's nothing
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: like that at all. Just trust that I'm telling you
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: something that's not born out of emotion. I'm just telling
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: you something that's born out of football, which is I
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: know this, and I'm not telling you that Lamar never
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: guts it out ever. Like look at this season. He's
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: been dealing with a knee, a hamstring, a calf, and
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: ain'tkle like. He's got all these injuries. It's greatly affected
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: his production, the way he plays his style. It's affected
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: him quite a bit. But he's gotten out there and
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: he's got it through it. So I don't want to
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: make it sound like he doesn't play through anything, but
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: I know this a back contusion. Day to day, you
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: realize how many quarterbacks in the past and currently in
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: the NFL who have been back on the field with
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: the exact same injury. A lot of quarterbacks, And that
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: is the issue right there. Your playoff lives are hanging
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: by a thread. You are neck and neck with the
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Steelers who won earlier in the day against Detroit.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: You need this game.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: This is a gotsa have it game, and you end
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: the game with Tyler Huntley on the field because Lamar
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: isn't out there again with a back contusion, and he's
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: now day to day. You gotta suck it the bleep
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: up and get your ass back on the field. That's
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: the bottom line. You can't tell me with a straight face. Oh,
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen with a back contusion. Yeah, I don't think
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: he finishes the second half. Yeah right, he is out there, man.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: There are a lot of quarterbacks that would do that.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Mahomes now, people look at Mahomes playing right now.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: He's injured.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: He's a torn ACL and I think it's his torn
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: ace a LCL. He's got two torn knee ligaments.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: He is injured, all right.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: It can't go no chance, know how, all right, he's
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: on the shelf until next season. That's being injured, being hurt,
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: having like an awi, having something that's really painful. But
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: you can suck it up and get back out there. Yeah,
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: you gotta suck it up and get back out there.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: You gotta do it. I remember.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying this is apples to apples in terms
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: in terms of injury. But Peyton Manning he had a
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: thumb injury in the AFC Championship game against the Patriots
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: years ago. It was the game that they won. They
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: were losing by a lot. They were down like twenty
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: one to six early on twenty one to three something
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: like that came all the way back won the game.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: But during that game, Peyton messed up his thumb and
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: he's like, like the backup is warming up. And during
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: that game, Jeff Saturday, the center, went up to Peyton
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Manning is like, brother, you gotta go right, like you
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: gotta get back on the field, like, suck it up.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: Find a way. I don't know what to find a way.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: I don't care if it's bent east and west and
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: north at the same time.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: Like it's like the Uh, it's like.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Lombard Street in San Francisco, the crookedest street. You know,
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: I don't care if your thumb looks like that, Peyton,
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: Suck it up and get back out there.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Bro, you gotta go.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: You can't tell me that it's it's all right that
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Lamar in that situation, they're up by eleven points somehow,
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: and the lead just fizzles away as Lamar misses the
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: entire second half with a back contusion, a back bruise
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: day to day going forward, Bro, you gotta go.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: You gotta get out there. Man. There are so many
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: quarterbacks right now that would be out there.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: You're telling me Baker Mayfield wouldn't be out there, Patrick
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: Mahomes wouldn't be out there. Yeah, Mahomes has two tor
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: kneelig a means he can't play with that. But Mahomes
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: with a back contusion, You think.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: He's knocked out for the entire second half.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Hell no, come on, man, Like I love Lamar, but dude,
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: this is indefensible. You can't defend this with a straight face.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: I don't care.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: He's got a legion of backers and dudes that come
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: rushing to his defense. You can't come rushing to his
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: defense for this. It's indefensible. Dude, get back on the field.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: It is football. It's not a walk in the park.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: It's not gonna be roses. You're not gonna feel great.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: You're gonna be in agonizing pain. Sometimes, yeah, comes with
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: the territory. But bro, you can't help the club from
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: the tub. And that's the deal with him. He's in
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: the tub too much. With being hurt. He's injured. I'm
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: not going on and on about this at all, but
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: he's hurt, and you can play with one of those
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: awis with being hurt. You tell me farv he's got
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: a back contusion. It's like, oh, man, I can't go
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: in the second half. Yeah, man, Week sixteen playoff lives
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: just hanging by a thread.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, man, my back, Man, it hurts.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: No come on, come on, dude, suck it up and
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: get out there.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: I'll be the bad guy.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: You know a lot of people are like, oh, I
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: don't like to question anyone's toughness. I'll question your toughness
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: all day when it comes to this, exactly a back
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: contusion day to day. Come on, man, and you lose
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: a game with Tyler Huntley on the field as the
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Patriots scored two straight touchdowns and walk out of there
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: with a twenty eight to twenty four win. You need
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: the Steelers to lose out and you have to win
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: out these final two weeks.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: Whew, that's rough. Like think of this.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: The scenario would be if the Ravens win that game
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: on Sunday, they beat the Patriots, well, as long as
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: you win in week seventeen, it comes down to Week
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: eighteen for the division. Now that's not the scenario. If
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: the Steelers beat the Browns, you're dead. Your season is over.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: You don't control your own path because you lost that
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: game to the Patriots. That's the situation the Ravens are
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: in right now. They do not control their path to
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: the playoffs. They have to have the Steelers lose to
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: the Browns to give them a chance. That's what they
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: have to have. That's how important the game was against
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: the Patriots. And look, man, don't confuse what I'm saying.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: I don't want to sound callous or heartless or look man,
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't want to make it sound like
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Lamar is employee two one, six, five, three eight, and
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: he's not a human being and like, I don't want
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: to make it sound like that, but Bro, we're playing
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: football over here. You have a back contusion. You're just
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: day to day right now. I'm not saying anything barbarica.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: This is foot ball. You are going to be hurt.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: You could we could go down the roll indecks of
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Jack Youngblood playing on a broken leg, of Philip Rivers
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: played for the Chargers on a torn acl against the Patriots.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: The list goes on and on and on and on
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: Emmitt Smith playing with a shoulder that was mangled against
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: the Giants and just being outstanding that day and winning
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: a very very important game. The list goes on and
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: on and on and on of players that have played
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: with things much worse than a back contusion. Like, Bro,
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: that's the baseline. You got to get back out there
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: with an injury like that.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Have to.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: There's no two ways about it. It's not like, well, Brian,
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: I mean you're being a little but no, no, no,
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: not in the NFL, not when there's that much on
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: the line.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: You gotta find a way. And he didn't. And I'm sorry.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: There's no defending that.