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11-12-26 - Daiyan Henley trade falls thru/No Broncos trades, Good Nugs win/NFL STOCK UP - STOCK DOWN · The Appetizer Hour with Brett Kane

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  Speaker 2: Well, that was a lot of things that happened if
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  Speaker 2: you went to bed early last night. The Nuggets win,
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  Speaker 2: and I think a really good win against a young
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  Speaker 2: and what I believe to be up-and-coming team. Memphis Grizzlies
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  Speaker 2: team had to bounce back, and the Nuggets have. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the one thing about the Nuggets this season as they
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  Speaker 2: improve to 6-4 is that the Nuggets have not lost
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  Speaker 2: back-to-back games this season. If they lose, they tend to
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  Speaker 2: figure it out the game after. And I think that
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  Speaker 2: the problems that they see in the previous game, they
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  Speaker 2: usually get corrected the game after. And that's what you
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  Speaker 2: saw last night in that win in Memphis.
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  Speaker 3: Over the Grizzlies was.
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  Speaker 2: Previous game against the Rockets, you didn't have a whole
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  Speaker 2: bunch of people outside of Joker and Jamal that stepped.
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  Speaker 3: Up and.
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  Speaker 2: Made something happen, contributed in a big enough way to
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  Speaker 2: give those guys some help. And last night, you had
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of guys doing it. I mean, Cam Johnson
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  Speaker 2: being sort of the main guy. I think Cam Johnson
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  Speaker 2: maybe has the best case for when we're talking about
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  Speaker 2: players who could step up and become maybe the third
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  Speaker 2: wheel on this team outside Joker and Jamal, I think
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  Speaker 2: Cam Johnson's capable of it.
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  Speaker 3: Nine to 15 from the floor, four of seven from three.
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  Speaker 2: I still want to see him rebound a little bit better,
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  Speaker 2: but to finish with 23 points is exactly what you
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  Speaker 2: need in that starting lineup.
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  Speaker 3: Um, Christian Brown I thought was.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit better, and then AG was a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more active on the defensive side yesterday, but still
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  Speaker 2: not a lot of offensive production.
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  Speaker 3: But the Nuggets get a nice win over the Memphis Grizzlies.
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  Speaker 2: But I think this morning, we'll talk about that game
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  Speaker 2: a lot as we go. Big thing is the news
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  Speaker 2: that broke last night. If you're just waking up with me,
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  Speaker 2: maybe you didn't see it. That's what I'm here for.
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  Speaker 2: Don't you worry.
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  Speaker 3: I got you.
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  Speaker 2: Late last night, about 1130, some news comes out. This
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  Speaker 2: one from Adam Schefter regarding the Broncos. So this was
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  Speaker 2: at 1.40 a.m. More about the Broncos announcing late Wednesday
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  Speaker 2: night that the trade to acquire Dayon Henley from the Chargers, quote,
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  Speaker 2: will not be finalized. So the one move that the
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  Speaker 2: Broncos made over the trade deadline is now something that
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  Speaker 2: is nullified. So the reasons behind it, we'll get to
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  Speaker 2: that in a second. The point in this is the
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  Speaker 2: Broncos were in a position where When you're a Super
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  Speaker 2: Bowl contender with a very obvious flaw, I am just
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  Speaker 2: somebody who is always going to be of the mindset
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  Speaker 2: that you just go and do something. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: mean just do something for the sake of doing it.
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  Speaker 2: You do something.
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  Speaker 3: About your problem.
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  Speaker 2: Because if you don't, there might not be next year
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  Speaker 2: we're in the same position. Or for the next handful
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  Speaker 2: of years we're in the same position. I like teams
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  Speaker 2: that go out recognize their window, and try and capitalize
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  Speaker 2: on it. The issue to me becomes this. This trade
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  Speaker 2: that is now nullified, if it did go through, would
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  Speaker 2: have helped the Broncos, but it would have helped in
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  Speaker 2: an area that was already your strength.
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  Speaker 3: You would have put, maybe you got a 1960s Corvette
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  Speaker 3: that's just I don't know what years they are.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not a big car guy, but I see like
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  Speaker 2: a Stingray Corvette, and I think that looks pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: And what you did, you threw rims on it when
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  Speaker 2: the engine's about to give out. That's how it felt
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  Speaker 2: to me. Like the thing that was already pretty neat
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  Speaker 2: about the product, you did more of.
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  Speaker 1: And....
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  Speaker 2: Would he have helped sideline to sideline? Would he have
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  Speaker 2: helped the Broncos in the passing game? Especially having a
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  Speaker 2: linebacker that maybe can cover tight ends a little bit
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  Speaker 2: better or running backs out of the backfield, you know,
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  Speaker 2: running wheel routes.
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  Speaker 3: The issue is this.
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  Speaker 2: I think this is sort of a classic case of
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  Speaker 2: falling way too in love with your own guys. And secondly,
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  Speaker 2: it might be a little bit of bravado and arrogance
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  Speaker 2: on the offensive side. Because here, I know this, we're
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  Speaker 2: venturing away from the Henley trade being nullified, but you
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  Speaker 2: have to allow me just a few minutes because I
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  Speaker 2: wasn't here yesterday. Whether this trade went through or not
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  Speaker 2: does not change the fact that the offense is still very, very,
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  Speaker 2: very much a work in progress. And I'm reading the
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  Speaker 2: story on ESPN right now, and it doesn't say particularly
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  Speaker 2: what the issue was that nullified this trade. If it's
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  Speaker 2: a failed physical, it would be interesting because Henley has
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  Speaker 2: started 41 of the last 42 games over the last
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  Speaker 2: three years, including all eight games for the Chargers this year.
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  Speaker 2: But as far as what they needed, And texters are
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  Speaker 2: saying the Colts didn't want to trade Jonathan Taylor. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I've said all along, Jonathan Taylor would be the dream scenario,
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  Speaker 2: but it doesn't mean.
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  Speaker 3: It's the only thing.
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  Speaker 2: Another texter says, I'm glad they didn't mortgage their future
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  Speaker 2: for an extra one and a half yards per carry.
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  Speaker 3: I just think that a lot. No disrespect. I just
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  Speaker 3: think that's flawed thinking. I really do.
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  Speaker 2: We sit here almost every week after the Broncos win
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  Speaker 2: a football game and talk about, man, the offense needs
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  Speaker 2: to be better.
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  Speaker 3: And then.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to give things up because of the
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  Speaker 2: future to make your offense better. Like, I'll give you
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  Speaker 2: an example. Tony Pollard is somebody that is on an
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  Speaker 2: expiring deal for a team that stinks. And maybe the
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  Speaker 2: Titans had a price, you know. Pollard is somebody that
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  Speaker 2: I have been able to talk to people who know
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  Speaker 2: the Titans situation about.
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  Speaker 3: Here's the deal.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people thought Pollard could have got flipped
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  Speaker 2: for like a fourth or fifth round pick. I think
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  Speaker 2: the Broncos were active in those discussions. And I think
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  Speaker 2: they gave them one of those options. And the Titans
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  Speaker 2: said no. To me, that is not the opportunity to
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  Speaker 2: be like, well, they said no, I guess we're done.
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  Speaker 3: Then you offer a third is what you do.
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  Speaker 2: Like, here's what's funny about we don't want to trade
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  Speaker 2: this guy. The Eagles didn't want to trade Jordan Davis.
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  Speaker 2: And then they were made an offer that was irrefutable.
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  Speaker 2: And the Titans didn't want to trade Jeffrey Simmons until
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  Speaker 2: they got an offer that was irrefutable. I hate the idea.
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  Speaker 2: And I know what the Broncos have coming down the line.
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  Speaker 2: They have more guys to pay. They probably have some
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  Speaker 2: shuffling on the offensive line to do after this year.
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  Speaker 2: But this year is important. You are second in the
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  Speaker 2: AFC this season with something that is a very obvious flaw.
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  Speaker 3: That's it. And I hate to be like, I.
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  Speaker 2: Hate sounding so matter of fact about things because I
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  Speaker 2: like to have an open mind and have my mind
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  Speaker 2: changed on stuff. But there's some things like in this
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  Speaker 2: situation that I'll just never understand.
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  Speaker 3: And it's not the end of the world.
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  Speaker 2: The Broncos now with this Henley trade being nullified, they're
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  Speaker 2: the same team they were before the deadline. Okay, well,
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  Speaker 2: that's a great football team. Like you still have a
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  Speaker 2: great opportunity to win a Superbowl.
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  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 3: Because this team's awesome. Because they're still good. But it's
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  Speaker 3: when you know the weakness.
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  Speaker 2: And you don't do anything to address it at a
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  Speaker 2: time that you could address it, I don't want that
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  Speaker 2: to come back in another way later and be the
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  Speaker 2: reason why you lose. And what's interesting is I mean
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  Speaker 2: the translation to me seems to be this the Broncos
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  Speaker 2: think last year if Bo Nix didn't get hurt they
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  Speaker 2: would have won the Super Bowl that seems to be
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  Speaker 2: the translation that's what they feel about their offense.
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  Speaker 3: Because if not, then how else can I look at it?
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  Speaker 2: They think if Bo Nix was healthy that they win
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  Speaker 2: the AFC championship game and they win the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: And maybe they do.
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  Speaker 2: But I know teams that did win the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 2: that made a ton of moves. I'm just very much
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  Speaker 2: a fan of the way the LA Rams go about business. Now,
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  Speaker 2: get them one Super Bowl, what, five years ago? Okay,
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  Speaker 2: but they're in the discussion every year. You can't say
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  Speaker 2: it's for lack of trying. I like the way the
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  Speaker 2: Avs go about business. And it's sort of the same thing. Like,
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  Speaker 2: they win a championship five years ago. But every year
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  Speaker 2: at the deadline, it's like you see the opportunity. You
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  Speaker 2: try and seize it.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It actually says Tony Pollard is old. Is he going
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  Speaker 2: to be old in two months? Because that's what I
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  Speaker 2: care about. He seems to be playing pretty effective football
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  Speaker 2: for an old man at this time. Like, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how else to say this to you. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: worried about.
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  Speaker 3: 2028 right now. He's too old to do that!
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  Speaker 2: It's not my concern. And if a third-round pick in
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  Speaker 2: next year's draft... has a huge effect on what happens
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  Speaker 2: in 2029, I'm willing to live with that.
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  Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't have to give up the farm for a
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  Speaker 2: single player, but I do feel like you should have
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  Speaker 2: done something. Because I have a fear, and everybody, knock
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  Speaker 2: on your collective wood.
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  Speaker 1: Okay?
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Nellie.
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  Speaker 2: I am terrified that we get to January and Jonah
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  Speaker 2: Coleman goes down with an injury and we have what's
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  Speaker 2: left of J.K.
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  Speaker 3: Dobbins, R.J.
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  Speaker 2: Harvey, and Cody Schrader or whoever else that's there in
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  Speaker 2: the postseason or Tyler Bidet or something like that. And
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  Speaker 2: I heard the interview that Sean Payton did, was it yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: two days ago, whenever, With Colin Cowherd, where he talked
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  Speaker 2: about the offense, and he says, hey, we got the
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  Speaker 2: right guy, quarterback, and a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: The problems on offense stem from the offensive line. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Fine.
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  Speaker 2: A running back helps. It helps with all of it. Like,
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  Speaker 2: here's what you can't tell me. I'll just, I'll never
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  Speaker 2: believe this. Never. Never, ever, ever in the history of ever,
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  Speaker 2: because when you find really good running backs, this is
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  Speaker 2: never the case. A really good running back wouldn't help
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  Speaker 2: because the offensive line would still be what they were?
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  Speaker 3: Is that the argument?
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  Speaker 2: That if I put Barry Sanders in this backfield, he
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  Speaker 2: would get three yards a carry because this offensive line.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't good enough?
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  Speaker 2: Or is the running back better and will in turn
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  Speaker 2: make everything else look better? It's the classic example of
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  Speaker 2: anybody who plays alongside Nikola Jokic. Are they actually as
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  Speaker 2: good as they look when they play alongside Jokic? Well,
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  Speaker 2: the evidence that we've seen is almost in every case
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  Speaker 2: when somebody leaves after playing with Joker, they don't put up.
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  Speaker 3: The same numbers.
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  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 2: Because in the atmosphere surrounding that guy, things get better.
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  Speaker 2: And I think the same thing can apply to a
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  Speaker 2: running back. Just like a quarterback can make a wide
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  Speaker 2: receiver look better than he actually is.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm not happy.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm especially not happy that this trade didn't go
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  Speaker 2: through because at least I felt like you would have
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  Speaker 2: gotten something as far as depth for the linebacker position,
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  Speaker 2: which I do think was important, just not of the
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  Speaker 2: utmost importance. So a lot more to discuss on this.
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  Speaker 3: me an idiot. That's fine. I told you guys, like, it's.
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  Speaker 2: This is a very rare case, okay, where I try
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  Speaker 2: not to be staunchly dug in to an opinion I
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  Speaker 2: have because I think you're stupid if you don't have
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  Speaker 2: a malleable brain. It has to be. You're presented with
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  Speaker 2: new information. You should be able to change your mind.
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  Speaker 2: You should be able to admit that you are wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I'm wrong all the time. I'm just telling you, this
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  Speaker 2: is going to be a hard one to move me
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  Speaker 2: off of. Because I saw it already. And you can
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  Speaker 2: tell me that with a healthy quarterback last year, the
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  Speaker 2: Broncos are in the Super Bowl, and I would tend
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  Speaker 2: to agree with you.
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  Speaker 3: But you knew.
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  Speaker 2: That last year, not having a reliable running game late
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  Speaker 2: in the season was an issue. Because they had it
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  Speaker 2: early in the season. I know people want to make J.K.
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  Speaker 2: Dobbins' year last year into a, it wasn't that great.
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  Speaker 2: And I go, well, he was like fifth in the
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  Speaker 2: league in rushing through 10 weeks. If that's not pretty
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  Speaker 2: damn good, then I don't know what is. The issue is, J.K.
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  Speaker 2: Dobbins has not looked remotely the same this year.
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  Speaker 3: Hasn't happened.
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  Speaker 2: So, I don't want to be put in a position
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  Speaker 2: where it's a playoff game in the cold, maybe wind,
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  Speaker 2: maybe snow, and you don't have a running game that
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  Speaker 2: you trust because maybe your starting running back gets hurt.
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  Speaker 2: And I like Jonah Coleman. He's been on IR already
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  Speaker 2: this year. I like RJ Harvey. Not really a between-the-tackles guy.
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  Speaker 2: More of a pass-catching back who's been on IR already
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  Speaker 2: this year.
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  Speaker 3: J.K.
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  Speaker 2: Dobbins has surprisingly been healthy so far this year, but
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  Speaker 2: has been completely ineffective.
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  Speaker 3: And how long is he going to stay healthy? This
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  Speaker 3: is what I'm getting at.
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  Speaker 2: And it just feels like there's a lot of hubris
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  Speaker 2: surrounding the offense saying, well, you know, it's been better
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  Speaker 2: the last few weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Cool.
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  Speaker 2: I hope it continues to get better. But I don't
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  Speaker 2: want things derailed because you don't have a rushing game.
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  Speaker 2: Because a running back gets hurt and you go, well,
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  Speaker 2: who's going to play now?
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  Speaker 3: Cody Schrader? That doesn't seem right.
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  Speaker 2: You know, again, you look at some of the top
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  Speaker 2: teams in the league. They run the football and they
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  Speaker 2: can do it effectively. A lot of them can't anyway.
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  Speaker 2: And the ones who can't seem to have really, really
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  Speaker 2: effective quarterback play. Buffalo can run the football with James Cook. Jacksonville,
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  Speaker 2: Michelle Tootin can run the football. The Steelers are 6-2
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  Speaker 2: almost exclusively because Jalen Warren's having an amazing year. The
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  Speaker 2: Chiefs are 6-2 almost exclusively because Kenneth Walker is having
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  Speaker 2: an amazing year. The Bengals can't run the football, but
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  Speaker 2: their quarterback can throw for 450 yards a game. And
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  Speaker 2: this is kind of what I'm getting at. We all
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  Speaker 2: know the issues that lie in the passing game that
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  Speaker 2: have improved over the last few weeks. But if I
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  Speaker 2: ask you the question, do you think the Broncos will
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  Speaker 2: have a 100-yard rusher this week?
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  Speaker 3: And your immediate answer is nope. Tells me something.
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  Speaker 2: But again, if you guys are just joining us, this
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  Speaker 2: happened when you were asleep last night. Day on Henley,
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  Speaker 2: that trade.
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  Speaker 3: No more.
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  Speaker 2: Got to the Broncos facility. The Broncos sent him back
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  Speaker 2: to LA.
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  Speaker 3: No trade.
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  Speaker 2: So almost assuredly a failed physical. So even the one
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  Speaker 2: move you did make at the deadline that, that would
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  Speaker 2: have helped. I mean, that would have helped you. Henley's
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  Speaker 2: a good player. Is now no more. Um, So the
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  Speaker 2: roster that the Broncos had going into the deadline is
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  Speaker 2: the one that they're going to have after the deadline
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  Speaker 2: pushing for a Super Bowl bid. So 303, 504, 0925.
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  Speaker 2: To get back to the Nuggets from last night, something
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  Speaker 2: that I really liked and something that I didn't. The
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  Speaker 2: first thing is the Broncos, sorry, the Nuggets, played a
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  Speaker 2: much more balanced game yesterday. Each player in the starting
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  Speaker 2: five took over 10 shots. Here's how the shot distribution went.
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  Speaker 2: 19 for Jamal, 16 for Joker, 15 for Johnson, 13
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  Speaker 2: for Christian Brown, and 11 for Aaron Gordon. That's how
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  Speaker 2: this thing should look. That's how this team should operate.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: And that's how you keep guys like Jamal and Joker alive.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Fresh for an 82 game season. Is you have to
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: balance out. The distribution. Of the offensive effort. Because if
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: you don't. Then those guys will tend to lack on
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: the defensive side. Or they're going to get run into
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: the ground. The Joker finishes 10 of 16 from the
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: field last night.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: 27 points. 11 boards. 8 assists.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: The big detail and the one thing I'm going to
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: keep harping on, Jamal Murray has been sensational this season.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: He's shooting 51% from three, averaging eight threes a game,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: which is almost statistically impossible. The difficulty to do that
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: at that clip through, this is now not a small
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: sample size of games here. You're 10 games in, but
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: doing it at that high of a level is pretty remarkable.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: And you just look around the NBA, what guys are doing,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: like three pointers attempted per game. Um, Jamal Murray is
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: 16th in the league in those. You have some of
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: the crazy ones like Lucas putting up 13.5 threes a game,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: which is insane.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Multiple people.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Nikhil Alexander-Walker, Brandon Miller, Desmond Bain, Michael Porter Jr.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Steph.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: They're at about 10 per game. But you look at
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: the best of that bunch. Steph is shooting 46% from three.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: He's been great on nine and a half. To be
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: over 50% is crazy. To be shooting at that frequency.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: So Jamal Murray in his season, you know, he has
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: been plagued his entire career. I guess plagued is the
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: wrong word, but he has been given the moniker.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: As a slow starter to seasons.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: And he has been. But there's one thing about Jamal.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: In each subsequent year, Jamal has gotten better. He went
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: from 20 points a game in 2022 and 2023, championship year,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: to 21.2 points a game, to 21.4, to last year 25.4,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: and now he's averaging over 26. But he had career
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: highs in virtually every single category last season. And it
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: looks like that's continuing. Not to mention playing a lot
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: better defense. Like the Nuggets without Jamal Murray this year,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: who knows where they'd be. But Jamal, like last night
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: for example, Game gets tight. You know, you have a
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: decent lead going into the second half. Game gets tight late.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: And who's there to rescue you?
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: It's Jamal.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Like, Jamal has just taken over when it's been absolutely necessary.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: The game gets cut down to 113-111. Jamal Murray buckets.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Cam Johnson with a big three. But the aggressiveness that
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Jamal is showing on offense is exactly what everybody wants
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: to see. Because Jamal Murray has been somebody forever. that
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: I think has been undervalued because he has played.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: In up and down and a.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Little bit inconsistent brand of basketball for a lot of
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: his career until last season. Texture says, Brett, weren't you
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: a trade Jamal guy? I never wanted to trade Jamal.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: I argued against people that said you couldn't trade Jamal.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: So my whole point was, If we're talking about things
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: you can do to shake things up on the Nuggets,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: and you don't think that Jamal Murray was tradable, I
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: think you're crazy. He was an All-NBA player last year,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: and he is one of the best shot makers in
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: the NBA. Now, here's the problem with Jamal that I
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: have at this moment. Over the last couple of years,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I've seen Jamal do this in the regular season. which
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: is something we all ask for, right? Like start the
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: season the way you want to end the season. Don't
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: like take three months to ease into your game and
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: then finally find it. It was inconvenient is what it was.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: The issue with Jamal is Jamal was always a, I
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: have okay regular seasons and then I explode in the
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: postseason and now it's sort of flipped. He's having great
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: regular seasons and not finding that in the postseason for
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: whatever reason. And that's now become the problem is as
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: much as we complained in the past about, hey man,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: what's up with these slow starts? What's up with the
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: inconsistencies during the regular season? What's up with this? What's
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: up with that? Bottom line is that dude showed up
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: when the postseason started. And now It seems to be
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: the opposite. So, I can't judge this year's postseason because
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: it's months away. All I know is what he's doing
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: right now is pretty great. I still have the same concerns, though,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: that I had previously with AG. AG had multiple, like,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: these awesome Joker dribble drive kick out to try and, like,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: ice the game. And he just couldn't knock down a shot.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, shooting from three... In the month of November, wow.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Aaron Gordon this month is 3 of 21 from three-point
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: range in five games. In multiple times yesterday, kick out
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: late in the fourth quarter. If you hit this, it
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: pretty much ices the game, clings one off the rim,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: transition the other way.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Memphis gets a bucket.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Now you're even more tight, like, I am very concerned
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: about Aaron Gordon right now and I really hope he's
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: just trying to play through an injury and it's not
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: just other things like age or mileage or something like that.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Because we all kind of know he is the straw
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: that stirs the drink here. He is that one last
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: sort of Thanos ring into making the Nuggets a big-time
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: contender for a championship. But if he doesn't have that,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: then I don't know where it goes. You know, the
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: encouraging thing is if Cam Johnson can play like he
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: did last night on a consistent basis, then maybe, maybe,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: that can put a salve on it. But, I mean,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Cam was great. And Cam, for the most part, this season,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: has been really good. You know, he's a guy that
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: when he gets an open look from three, he tends
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: to knock down that open look. He has, for the
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: most part, been pretty aggressive this year with his offense
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: because I think that he recognizes somebody has to. But
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: if he can provide what he did last night, it
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: was a season-high 23. The other night that he played
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: really well was the Mexico City game against Indianapolis.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: He was the same sort of version of that.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: And if you remember, in the postseason last year, he
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: was one of the only guys that was playing well
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: at times during the postseason. He can be a very
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: effective player. He's now got one of those cases of
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: the inconsistencies, I think, but over the last few games,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: he recognizes maybe he's just got to step up and
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: be that number three on this team. So 303-504-0925 as
• 30:50
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• 31:03
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• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Look at all those chickens.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Look at all those chickens. You know what?
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Let's call an audible. Nelly, let's do it. I missed
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: it yesterday. Let's stick with it. NFL stock up, stock
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: down next. All right, so a little late this week,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: but we usually do this every week following the NFL weekend.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: It is NFL stock up, stock down. Always start with
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: the quarterbacks, please.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Nelly, stock up.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Hey, it's not so much what this guy did last
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: week because he didn't have a good game last week.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: He had a pretty bad game, actually. lost 38-17, only
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: threw one touchdown, three interceptions, but guess what? Kirk Cousins
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: get the stock up because he's playing for a contender now,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: being traded to Minnesota, back to Minnesota, and having.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: A defense like that is... I mean, look, I'm a
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Lions fan.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I hate that that move happened because Kirk Cousins is,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I've always thought, completely underrated as a quarterback.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: They did the old, oh, yeah, well, what's he won?
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: I just know that guy throws a lot of touchdowns
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: and he wins a lot of football games. And now
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: he's going to a team that is almost tailor-made in
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: every situation, defensively, skill position-wise, to have somebody, if they're
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: competent at quarterback, now all of a sudden Minnesota becomes
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: a problem. So nobody benefited more from the trade deadline
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: than the Minnesota Vikings and Kirk Cousins in particular.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: By the way, how cool is it for him?
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: I get to go be a starter and be the
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: bridge quarterback to the number one overall pick for half
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: a year. And then when it turns out this team
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: isn't good enough and they're going to start playing the
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: rookie because they know they're not making the playoffs, I
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: get to go to a team that is making the playoffs,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: very likely making the playoffs, and has a good chance
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: to do something in the playoffs. So Kirk Cousins, he
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: gets a stock up. Let's go quarterback stock down. Anyone
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: else on the quarterback depth chart in Minnesota? They thought
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: you were so bad, despite a team being so good,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: that they could not trust you to simply not make mistakes.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: That was it. So that applies to Tyler Murray, Carson Wentz, whoever.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: Max Brosmer, come on now. Brosmer?
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Wentz last week was 8 of 25 for 81 yards,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: no touchdowns, two picks, and they said, that's enough.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Something has to be done.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, if Carson Wentz played decent, decent, not
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: only do the Minnesota Vikings win against Buffalo, I think
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings don't make this move. But he played
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: so bad that it altered the entire course of all
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: of their careers. So they get the stock down. Let's
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: go non-quarterback stock up. How about, I'm going to do
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: this in the Jerry Jones voice, CeeDee Lamb. Ten catches
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: for 195 yards and a touchdown last week against Indianapolis
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: on the season.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: CeeDee Lamb, remember, we're like halfway through.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: He's already got 70 catches for 904 yards and seven touchdowns.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: He's been remarkable. He's had four different games this year,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: over a hundred yards. Three of those have resulted in
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: over 150 yards. Two of those have resulted in over
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: 190 yards in those games. Um, When the Cowboys offense
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: is operating at its peak, it is run through this
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: human being. Yes, they try and get Javante Williams going
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: on the ground. Yes, they have a George Pickens. They
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: even have that Ryan Flournoy kid who turns out he's
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: a decent weapon when he becomes the one-on-one option when
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Seedy and George Pickens are getting so much attention. But
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: he is having another phenomenal season at 904 yards already.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Listen to this, Nelly.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: He's 174 yards away from breaking last year's total that
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: he had of 1,077 yards.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Smiles and glory hopes.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Seven touchdowns is already third most in his career. His
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: career high is 12. Looks like he's going to reach that.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: It's as good a season as he's had in the NFL.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: And.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Chidi Lamb gets a stock up. Let's go non-quarterback stock down.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I want to do an all-encompassing one again. Anyone who
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: runs the football for the Washington Commanders, they have no
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: running game. Take a quick guess, Nelly. Who's the leading
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: rusher of the Washington Commanders this season?
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Give me a guess. It's got to be either Jaden
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Daniels or Marcus Mariota.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: It's Jaden Daniels. He has 252 yards rushing. The next
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: closest guy is Ja'Cory Kroski-Merritt, who has 239.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: At 3.6 yards per carry.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: They only have four runs, or I'm sorry, three runs
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: of over 20 yards on the season. They just can't
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: find consistency in the running game. I think going out
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: and getting Rashad White out of Tampa Bay last year
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: was smart on their part. But Rashad White even seems
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: like a tamed down version of what he was in Tampa.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: They just can't get anything going. and it's a big
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: reason why they find themselves 2-5-1 this year, is that
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: if Jaden Daniels can't return to the form that he
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: had basically his rookie season, and he's dealing with elbow injuries,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: and he's dealing with a whole bunch of other things,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: you can't put that much pressure on your quarterback, so
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: the Washington running back room gets a stock down. Can
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: I also quickly do a celeb shot for non-quarterback stock down?
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Anyone on the Broncos and Chargers medical staff, just all
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: of them, Well, that's tough.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Again, the details, if you guys are just tuning in
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: this morning, the day on die on die on Henley,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Don Henley, that trade is now nullified.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: He went to the Broncos facility yesterday.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: He went through a physical and then he was sent
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: backpacking to LA and the Broncos kept their picks. So
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: that trade did not go through. The Broncos did not
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: make any acquisitions at the deadline. And my guess is
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: he went through, did all the testing and they said, no,
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: thank you. Um, which there's rumors out there that he
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: might have suffered an injury last week and played through it.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: If that's the case, you don't know what the future
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: is going to be for Henley here. And you aren't
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: going to risk two different draft picks for a guy
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: who is supposed to be at least a rental who
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: wouldn't even be a rental if he's too hurt to play.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: So I think that's the situation that's happening.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know. There's not a lot of details surrounding him.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Let's go NFL team stock up. It's the Broncos, by
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: the way. It's them.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I don't care what people think of the Panthers. I
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: think that's a very good win going into a bye week.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: And they've now won five straight games. They've won seven
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: of their last eight, seven and two on the year.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: They're second in the AFC. They have, they have the
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: one thing that teams kill for, which is the ability
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: to close out football games. They do it better than
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: anybody else. Obviously we all know 16 straight wins in
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: one score games and NFL record, but, Emotional high coming
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: off the win against Kansas City that puts you first
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: in the AFC West again.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: You have the bye week looking ahead.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: You have a Panthers team that's not very good, but
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: is capable of playing at a high level, which I
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: think we saw in that game. Bryce Young can be
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: a very, very good quarterback at times. To get that win,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: to close out that game, maybe not pretty, but But
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: to find a way to close it, I think is
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: a huge win and it sets the Broncos up in
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: great position to be right back on track for a
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: 13-14 win season and compete for number one in the
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: AFC and get the bye in the wildcard round and
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: home field for the rest. They put themselves in position
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: to do that. Getting through that first nine games of
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: this schedule at 7-2 is a remarkable feat that I
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: honestly can say I don't know if anybody else in
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: the NFL could do it.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: I really don't. So they get the stock up. Let's
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: go with NFL team stock down. It's Cleveland. And here's why.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Cleveland seems to be falling back to earth a bit.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: They lose to the Saints this last week. I know
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: they were playing Shador. But they've gotten through their early
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: part of the schedule. Their wins are over the Bucs,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: the Panthers, the Steelers, which is a good win. The
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Ravens without Lamar Jackson and the Titans. The losses they've
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: suffered are to the Jags big, to the Jets on
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: the road, to the Steelers on the road, to the
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Saints on the road.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: They can't win away from home.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: And now they have a home game against the Texans
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: this upcoming weekend that I think is going to result
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: in a loss because the Texans are starting to find
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: their stride a little bit. I just think this is
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: a team that is primed to fall back to earth.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: And when you're asking questions nine weeks into the season,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: who's starting at quarterback and having discussions about that, not
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: a good place to be.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Cleveland, they get the stock down. MVP stock up. Joseph Burrow.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Over the last three weeks, Joe Burrow has thrown for
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: 12 touchdowns. 12, including three and 271 yards and no picks.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: against the Atlanta Falcons. He's also ran in two touchdowns
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: on his own. So let's just take this into account.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Over the last three weeks, he is responsible for 14 touchdowns.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: He's as good of an MVP candidate as you're going
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: to find as long as they continue to win. The
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: one concern about since he has been their defense, if
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: they can keep that in check, I think he's absolutely
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: going to be one of those guys standing there at
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: the very end of the season. Let's go MVP stock down.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: For a guy who's played great over the last handful
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: of games after a miserable start, Drake may throw us
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: three interceptions and a 45 27 loss to green Bay
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: last week. Still three for three touchdowns and 300 yards,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: but look at his numbers on the year. He has
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: 18 touchdowns, which is decent, but he has 11 interceptions.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: It's tied for 30th in the NFL. It's impossible to overlook.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: If you're trying to make an MVP case, Drake may,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: he gets a stock down best game of the week.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Oh yes.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: There's a couple of them that were really good in
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: the NFL last week. Um, I think Browns and Saints.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: It was ugly early.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: You get down to the very end, though. You get
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: the tie ball game.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: You get the Saints scoring the touchdown in overtime with
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: a chance for the Browns to respond. They also score
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: go for two. Just can't get the two-point conversion. Browns
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: and Saints.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: That'll be the best game of the week. Worst game
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: of the week.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: No!
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: God, please, no!
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: I always go with the low-scoring games just because they're boring.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: Incredibly boring. Guess what? Seahawks and Cardinals, congratulations. You guys
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: get it. Almost no offense to speak of in that game.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: So there you go. NFL stock up, stock down. Do
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: it every week, usually on Wednesdays. But you can always
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: watch what you love on Twitch. Twitch.tv, search Altitude SR
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: on the search bar. The Altitude TV simulcast can watch
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: on YouTube.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Moshe Lombardi came next.