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Episode 33. You Don't Want to Know & Lucifer vs. Trevor Belmont (Feat. Lin Lustig, Author of Gilded Lies) · High n' Dry Podcast

• 0:15
  SPEAKER_03: We announced it.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we've completely lost the entire like natural feeling of the conversation.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we should just stop now.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_03: It was great.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_03: Thanks for being here, everybody.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks for joining us this week.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_00: That's exactly how I like doing things.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_03: You've been great.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's all I needed.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks, guys.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_00: So uh just how is how is profanity on your show?
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_00: You guys good at that?
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_02: Please.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_00: If you're putting me with alcohol, that's a really bad combination.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm pretty sure that uh we've already been swearing at you.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_02: So we can use profanity.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_02: You can.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, oh, okay.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_00: I'm all censored over here.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so why watch your mouth if you could.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um all right.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_02: So uh I think I'm good to go.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_02: You good?
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm good.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_02: I'm good.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_02: All right, let's get this on then.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_02: So welcome to High and Dry Podcast, the only podcast where we do all of our own stunts.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_02: I'm your host, Ryan Barron North, Drunk Philosopher.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_02: With me as always, we have James Crosslin, our resident high philosopher.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_02: James, what's going on?
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I just drank water through your intro.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_03: I heard that.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm doing pretty well.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_03: Still thirsty.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_03: No, that's good.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_03: I uh I just uh I just did my Monday Twitch stream.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_03: We're recording in the evening.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_03: I did a four-hour stream.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, I gotta leave early, guys.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_03: That's early.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_03: That's an early thing.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_03: That's the thing I gotta go do.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_03: Not a thing.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, come check out.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, let's go to the podcast.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_03: Go check out the podcast.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, if you're listening right now, check out I Drive Podcasts.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_02: Check us out.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_02: If you're checking us out, just go ahead and check us out.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_02: It'll be great.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_02: Um, joining us today, we have a new drunk philosopher.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we have Lynn Lustig, author of the Frequency Series.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_02: Lynn, how's it going?
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's going great over on my side.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: I'm ready for uh getting into this with you guys and address.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_02: We got a good fight.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_02: I'm excited for the fight.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_02: Um so I think we're gonna have a good time.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_02: So, real quick, if you don't mind, just tell people listening what the frequency series is about.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_00: All right, so it's basically bisexual X-Men.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_00: It's got a little bit of adventure, a little bit of action, uh, a little bit of romance, as in a lot of bit of romance, but still a really good plot.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_02: So is it like if Wolverine was actually into Cyclops?
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_00: Ooh, I like that comparison.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_00: There might be a little bit of that.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_00: I did originally have a character named Logan that I had to edit out because I was like, ooh, that's a little too close.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_02: A little close.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_02: That's a DMCA right there.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, cool.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_02: And where can we find that?
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so you can find them on any major ebook retailer at the moment.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_00: They're also in paperback on Barnes Noble and on Amazon.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_02: Awesome, awesome.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_02: Well, again, thank you for joining us.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_02: We're glad to have you here.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and listeners at home, thank you for tuning in again.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_02: Your why we do this are tens and tens of fans.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_03: And no, we have all remember, all of all of Mumbai listens to us.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_03: That is true.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_00: Well, don't worry, I'll bring my dozen fans as well.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_00: So we're the working of it.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_02: Together, it'll be dozens and dozens.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_02: See, and that was the plan.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna get some books sold out here.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_02: Let's do it.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, again, folks uh at home, thanks for listening.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, if you haven't already yet, please swing by.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_02: Right now, we're doing the high and dry attorney, where you can vote for all of the winners that we've had so far in our series, see who comes out on top, and while you're at it, get a chance to win a shot glass.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_02: So please go check that out.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and for us, it's time to get into it.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_02: So for those of you who are just joining us, how high and dry works is we have a philosophical quandary for you, a little debate.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna discuss it, and then it's gonna devolve into a fist fight, as these things often do.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_02: But before we do that, it's time to get a little drunk and it's time to get a little high.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_02: James, to start us off, what are you smoking this week?
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_03: Alright, so I'll get into that, but I gotta say, I really love that you did this many episodes back, of course.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_03: You said, as these things often do, you added that to the intro.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_03: And I've never on air been like, I'm so glad you added that because it's totally true.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_03: So many just conversations about like, hey, what do you think about the world?
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_03: End up with people punching.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_03: How about you go fuck yourself shooting each other or starting some kind of war?
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_03: So now that we're on that, now we figured that out.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_03: The what what I'm smoking today is called lemon velvet.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, oh yeah, I know, right?
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_03: That sounds real good.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_03: It is real good.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_03: It just it it's like this nice smooth blanket that covers you, and then you go to a dark nether world.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_03: So we're about to see how it turns out.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_03: Sweet.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_02: Awesome, awesome.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, all right.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and uh so Lynn, you're joining us as a drunken philosopher.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_02: What are you gonna be drinking today?
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, so I have some gin from Copperworks, which is a local Seattle brewery, and uh, or distillery, I should say.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_00: And it's an odd one.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's actually got color to it because it's been finished with a whole bunch of plums.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_03: That's really cool.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_03: Sounds great.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_03: I love plums.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_02: What distillery is that to?
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_02: Copperworks.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_02: Copperworks.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna have to add copper works.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_02: Let them know we, you know, they need to pay us because we have time now.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_02: Cool.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_02: And the licha I'm gonna be joining you guys with is my pink Whitney.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_02: And I just felt, you know, I I miss, we haven't done one of these in a few days now.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_02: I just wanted to break out something special.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_02: So um our first uh toast out uh today is gonna go to, as always, Carl Urban Cher.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_02: Uh happy birthday, ma'am.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_02: And our newest guest, Lynn Lustig.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks for joining us.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_02: Cheers.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_04: Is it Cher's birthday?
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_02: About like a week ago.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_03: I was all over it.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_03: She's gonna she's going to commit violence upon us and our families for forgetting her birthday.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_03: Gotta watch out with Cher.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_03: It's our it's a running joke that Cher uh inspires the ultraviolence that takes place on our show.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know how she doesn't inspire it, she demands it.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_00: Ah, but well, you do not want to disappoint her.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_02: No, and I would never.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_02: Oh never, ma'am.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_02: All respect.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and so our next toast today is gonna go out to our newest listeners.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_02: And if memory serves me, we had that guy just this morning.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_02: Our newest listener is from Matthews, North Carolina.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_02: Matthews, North Carolina.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_02: This one, this one's to you.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you so much, Matthews, North Carolina.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_03: I bet it's a really small town.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_03: It's all Matthew.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_03: It's just it's just 10 Matthews who live together.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I think this Matthew will be my favorite, though.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_00: So that's this for you, Matthew.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for that for the Matthew who listened.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_03: Cheers.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_03: Second one down.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I don't usually come into the podcast having smoked beforehand.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_03: So it's gonna be interesting.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_03: But my stream requ people can pay people can use channel points on my stream to get me to take dabs.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_03: And they did not let up today.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_02: So we're so eventually the conversation's just gonna be between me and you, Lynn.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_02: And he's just gonna be able to do that.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he'll just be on the floor.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_02: So our final toast, our third shot, our third dab, um, guests toast.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_02: Lynn, what's it to?
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_02: You forgot to tell her beforehand.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_00: Being on the spot.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_00: How about to you guys for having me on today?
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, we've never had one of those.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_03: We've never had someone toast us.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you so much.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like I have to be better now.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_03: To me.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_03: Cheers.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_03: Inspiring me to be a better person.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_03: And through the frequency, frequency series, also bisexual.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_03: And a mutant.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_02: Nice.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_02: So now we're all limbered up.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_02: We're a little drunk.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_02: We're a little more high than we were a few minutes ago.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_02: That's true.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_02: It's time to get into the question.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_02: So I have a fun one for you guys today.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, thank God.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_02: It's of course about child murder.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so the question I have for you guys today, um, you you know, take yourself to whatever little magical place you want where you happen to find this creature.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but you stumble upon a mythical being.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so it's probably gritty of the Philadelphia Flyers or um Anubis, one of them.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um the Chupacabra, um, and you are allowed to ask one question about anything, anything at all, they have the true answer for you, the indisputable truth to whatever one question you have to ask them.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_02: What question do you ask Gritty of the Philadelphia Flores?
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_02: Guests first, Len rethink.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_02: This is how the show works.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_00: So, okay, I have some clarifying questions.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_02: Please.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_00: Does this creature know past, present, future?
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_00: What about interdimensionally?
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_02: Everything.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_00: Everything.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_03: Omniscient.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_02: After this, it's probably going to kill itself just because of the weight of what it knows.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_00: Well, then I'd want to ask what exactly it knows that would make it want to kill itself.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_03: It's like you don't want to know.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, I don't want to saturate this.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_03: It's the universal truth that you don't want to know.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_03: You don't want to know.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_00: Don't worry about it.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_02: So you got one question for this critter.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_02: What's it gonna be?
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: Oh man.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I could go entirely selfishly.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, you know.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_02: All you're doing right now is explaining to your twelves of followers what kind of a person you are.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um, well, then let's take that part out.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, man.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like I should go with something altruistic, you know.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: How do I end suffering?
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_00: How do I end world hunger?
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yada yada.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_00: What I really want to know though is uh, will I become a bestseller?
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_02: Ah, okay.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_02: Will you become a bestseller?
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_02: And he's you don't want to know.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_00: Probably not.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_03: What if they said no?
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_03: What would you do?
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_00: Ooh.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_00: Uh probably give him the finger and just keep going on.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_03: Just keep doing it there.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_03: That's what's up.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_03: That's what's up.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_03: Fuck you, Gritty.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_03: And then I love if Grady's response is like, what would change if I told you no?
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_03: You're like, fucking nothing, starting right.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_03: No, she she asked the question on her terms.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_03: She made a statement to the universe that nothing's gonna stop me, even if you tell me no.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you pretty much just looked at the all-powerful and like pick one and suck it.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_02: Um, what if he's so what would would your behavior change if he said yes?
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_00: I'd probably relax a little bit and maybe not work on five books at the same time.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_03: That'd be nice.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_03: Relaxing sounds cool.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but it'd be that would I wonder though, like if when you asked the question, the answer was yes because of the rate that you were going at.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_02: But now that you've changed everything, I don't know.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_02: All right, well, so interesting stuff there.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_03: Very interesting.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_03: See, this is what happens when you fuck with time.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_03: This is what happens.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_03: We've learned this so many times.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_03: Don't mess, don't just don't, just don't think about the future or the past or the present.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_03: Just don't think, just stay high.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_02: Just stay high.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_03: Say high all the time.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_03: Living it.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and that's why people come to High and Tries for that level of knowledge.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_03: Eat your lotus flowers, hang out, nothing, you don't need to do anything.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_03: Just chill.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_03: People stop by with boats, they'll have goods.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_02: So, James, uh moving on to you.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_02: So you you walk up to this creature and you got he's like, All right, you got one question, man.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_02: What's it gonna be?
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_02: One question.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I forgot to think about this.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_02: See, well, and that's that's so that's an interesting thing I've been noticing lately in these episodes is that we get to a point where we finally reach that moment where we have stopped just waiting for our turn to speak, and we're legitimately listening to the person who's speaking.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_02: And you have to think you have that to thank with uh drugs and alcohol.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, drugs and alcohol maybe slow down and be like, ah, me next.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_03: You know, it stops that.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_03: It stops that.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_03: That's so cool.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 12:44
  unknown: Yeah.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_03: Probably.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_03: Probably.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_03: Um so let me see.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_03: What one question would I ask it?
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_04: Hmm.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_04: Hmm.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_02: So uh so Len, because you're another drunk philosopher and this is the longest he's ever had to pause, would you like to do another drink with me?
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I'm not gonna lie.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_00: I am um actually already feeling mine.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_00: I don't drink a lot, and so I am the cheapest date ever.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_00: She drink a lot, though.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_03: We don't want her slurned by the end.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_03: Let her actually I do.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_03: No, we don't want her slurring by the end.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_03: I will take another sip with you.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_03: Here's to another sip.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_03: Here's to a sip.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_03: There we go.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_03: People will not want to come back if they're like falling down at the end of it and being like, I'm so embarrassed I was on that podcast.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_03: Not our goal.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_03: Not our goal.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_03: I guess I'll find out someday.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so my question, this is probably the hardest question you've ever picked because it's such an open door.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's such an open door to all the possibilities.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_03: I would, I would I wouldn't ask anything.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_03: What?
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think I I in unless I had like a long time to think about this question, I probably wouldn't ask.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_02: But this was just off the cuff then.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_02: Because I mean he's not like the chupacabra ain't actually standing here.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_02: So I mean you could practice right now.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_03: Practicing right now, what would I ask?
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_02: Hmm.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_02: Will I ever have healthcare in this country?
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_03: I know that's I know the answer to that.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_03: You don't want to know.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_03: I would say, uh uh, who killed John Bene Ramsey?
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_03: I did.
• 14:42
  unknown: I don't.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just imagining a featurel of the brain.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_04: Oh man.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, I'll take it.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'll take it.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_01: All right, and then uh so for me, um That poor little white girl died.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_03: She was an angel.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_03: Nobody figured it out.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_02: Um let's see.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, I'm gonna have to say who killed John Bene Ramsey.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_04: Definitely I was doing two for Yeah, yeah.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_02: Like after you, I'm gonna ask him the same question.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, wait, oh wait, okay, so I do actually have an interesting one that I would want to ask now that I've sat here and been able to talk.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_00: Wait, think about it, not talk about it.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um, what do I need to know?
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_03: Ooh, that's the question I was looking for.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_03: You found it way faster than I did.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_03: There you go.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_03: There you go.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_03: What do I need to know?
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you so much for that.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_03: What a great question.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_03: What do I need to know?
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_03: And and and then they're like, how you die.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_03: Goodbye.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_02: You do kind of leave yourself with like a you really open the door for him, too.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, oh, he's gonna get dick.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, greedy's gonna be an asshole about that.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_02: That's like right coming to the end of climax, then he's just like, all right, goodbye.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_02: Peace.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, peace.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then for me, uh I let's see.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I mean, already the fact that I'm talking to this mythical creature who knows all tells me a lot about the world.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_02: How can I have your power?
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_02: How do I kill you?
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_03: You can't.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_03: Damn.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_03: Um, let's see.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_03: I would Oh, what if they gave you like what if what if Gritty gave you like a withering stare and was like, you, you can't.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, bitch.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_03: You'd try anyway, wouldn't you?
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_03: Now I would have to try.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so I mean, I guess that's a good way to go down.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but um fighting an omniscient being.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_02: What would I ask him?
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_02: I I would ask.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um I hope he wouldn't give me some bullshit like see a therapist.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_03: Um but also true.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: I'm already on that one.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I've tried, man.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um keep doing it.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_02: So I would either ask him like if there is if there is any mythical creature that is real and exists today.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_02: Me.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_02: You be you standing.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_02: I mean you're not yes.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_03: You're just like, yeah, like fuck.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_02: Now my life is spent figuring it out.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um I'd ask, what would it take for me to be truly and wholly happy?
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_02: You're dead.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_02: I hate you, monster.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_02: I hate you so much.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_02: And then I'm gonna try and kill him.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_02: So that's my answer.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna try and kill him.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: Just have a new grudge match.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just gonna try and kill this guy.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and that's it.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so um You know how conversations so often turn into fist vibes.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and now I'm fighting the chupacabra or gritty or whoever, Bigfoot.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_03: I don't care what your answer is, I'm disappointed.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I get ripped apart by a wood ape.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so uh moving back to our guest.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_02: Lynn, uh final thoughts on the topic.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_02: What do you have for us?
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_02: Any final thoughts?
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: I think you'd have to be careful about getting too specific.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's as James you know showed, pretty good right there.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_02: No, and I mean, like, I guess like I mean, I was like, and you no one knows what you asked, and no one knows that you like you came out of the woods with some truth or anything like that.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_02: So I couldn't even win Facebook arguments.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's like Yeah.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_02: Like, look, gritty told me you're wrong.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_02: I learned from Gritty.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_02: He came from the forest.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_02: Anyone from Philadelphia would be like, what, really?
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_02: Um, okay.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and and uh James, final thoughts.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_03: Final thoughts.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_03: Uh there's a reason this is a thought experiment, right?
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_03: It's because it wouldn't really happen.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_03: There's no way to answer.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think at no point did any of us here today think that Gritty would one day come out of the forest.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_03: I was pretty high a couple seconds ago.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_03: I've uh I feel like I was very convinced that I would have to approach this seriously.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_03: Um but uh but obviously this is just a this is just a fun thought experiment.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_03: I would probably say like I'd probably ask like, does humanity ever, you know, chill out?
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I'd ask.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_03: It's like, no, you're a monkey.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_03: Goodbye.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_03: Be like, well, yeah, that's kind of what I thought.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_03: No chill forever.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_03: Sounds good.
• 19:49
  unknown: Goodbye.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then for me, I guess uh final thoughts on it.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_03: Um I damn, Gritty.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_03: Why are you putting all this?
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_03: Why are you putting all the burden of this knowledge on me?
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, why me, Grady?
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's what I'd ask.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_03: Why me?
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_03: Why do I have the opportunity to talk to you?
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_03: Because you were in the right place as me.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, Sasquatch is a dick.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_02: Sasquatch is a dick.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um, did he we Sasquatch won against Sherlock Holmes?
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Sasquatch beat Sherlock Holmes in our matchup.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_02: There's a thing that you know now.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_02: He's a real dick.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh Sasquatch would beat up Sherlock Holmes.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: Excellent.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_03: He is a man.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, he's just a man.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: Do you guys do an all-star round where you're like your winners then go against each other?
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: That's what's happening right now.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_02: That's actually what's happening right now.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_02: If you clink on if you if you clink, if you click on the link in our drinks, right?
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_02: So if you clink on that link in our Instagram bio, um, you'll actually be entered.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_02: You could go to the tournament and you vote on every one of our winners because they've been thrown into a random bracket.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_02: And if you vote and if you share, you actually get entered to win a shot glass.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_03: So I like Forrest Gump versus Godzilla.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_02: Right now, uh Forrest Gump is going up against Godzilla.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_02: So if you guys, if you guys could get in there.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_04: So fucking stupid.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_02: Forrest needs your help.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_04: Oh shit.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, Forrest, he's he's looking pretty bleak right now.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um I'm worried about Forrest.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_03: I chose a really good picture of him with the only one where he looked menacing, where he had a gun and it was like all raining.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_02: I I I was looking at him like Vietnam that versus at home, Forrest needs your help.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_02: So please click on the link in our Instagram bio and you see if he could beat Godzilla.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_02: So speaking of the matchups, it's time to get into our fist fight.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_02: But before we do that, we do have to get a little more drunk and we have to get a little more high.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_02: James, you're like squinting at me from across the room.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so uh, do you uh you wouldn't happen to remember who's fighting in this one?
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_04: Why would you even ask?
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so hold on a second.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so Lucifer.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_02: Of the Netflix series.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_02: Lucifer.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_02: Of the Netflix series.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_02: Pitular character, yeah.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_03: There are a lot of tits in that show.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um really.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_00: Like there are not enough, actually.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, not even close to enough.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_03: You know, you're right.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_03: Uh it's been a long time since I saw it.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_03: There's implied tits.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_03: There's implied tits.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_03: They imply that there are a lot of tits around.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, I mean, I would definitely watch Lucifer and Chloe get it on.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_02: I would.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um, for sure.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_03: I'd watch a lot of people get it on.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_03: I'd watch like most people.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_04: She's just sitting here like, what the fuck am I on?
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, people are beautiful.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know what to say.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_02: Well, so so Lynn, and and I think this is what the people at home really want to know is how many people would you watch?
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_02: What are your criteria?
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, what's your criteria?
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: Tom Ellis is involved just across the board.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, anybody.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_02: Tom Ellis and Tom Ellis and anyone.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_02: I would love to see Tom Ellis and the principal lady from Matilda.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: Who was a weird mind?
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, just to see like who would be on top.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_03: Sure.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_03: I'd like to see Tom Ellis and a clone of himself.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_03: Like when that other person was impersonating.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_02: See, at that point, at that point, it's like, it's not even like that's just art.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_03: At that point.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_03: He's like a it's like a a a sculpture intertwined two people intertwined.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_03: Let's take this.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_03: Wait, who's I don't I forgot who the opponent is.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_02: The opponent is who we'd really like to see Tom Ellis fuck.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um, is Trevor Belmont of the Netflix series Castlevania.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_02: So we hear is to Lucifer and Trevor Belmont.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_02: Fucking cheers.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_02: Cheers.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_02: The best kind of fighting.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna wrestle you.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_03: Fighting is the best way to fuck.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_02: See, I don't know about that.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like after a fight, I'm just like, I'm not in the mood.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I know, like, I know those people who they get into fights just so the sex is crazy.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_02: I feel that those people really need a therapist.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_02: They really do for sure.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_02: Lynn, how do you feel?
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, I totally blinked on what we're talking about.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_00: I heard oh my Lucifer just started.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_03: How do you feel about like you've you've drank a lot of drink?
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_03: How are you feeling?
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_03: We're checking it.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, how are you doing?
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I'm feeling great.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_03: Awesome.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_02: And that's what we hope for.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_02: All right, so we've gotten a little more drunk, we've gotten a little more high.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_03: Now we have to imagine these two beautiful men just yeah.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_03: Slamming into each other over and over for three rounds.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_02: Unadulterated fury.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_02: So how this works in high and dry, welcome to the podcast.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_02: How this works in high and dry is that we do it in three rounds.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_02: Round one, the two characters have entered into a Gen X bar where they beat the hell out of each other.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_02: No shirts, no shoes, no belts.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_02: They just fuck each other up while Brad Pitt looks on.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_02: Um, round two, you zoom out into a city view where these two characters have received a manila envelope underneath their apartment doors or penthouse doors or campfire, wherever they are.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_02: And they now know that they have 24 hours to kill the other one, and they have access to anything they would have.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_02: Additionally, if their universe allows for it, they could just go fucking buy a gun.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_02: Round three is the same as round two, except this time the characters get to bring a friend.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_02: So, that being said, now that the rules are explained, we've just entered into round one.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we're entering into that Gen X fight club bar.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_02: We've just gone downstairs.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_02: Um, Brad Pitt is explaining the rules that I just explained.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um, Cher is being escorted up into the box office seats with Carl Urban, um, and behind them the high and dry philosophers have just taken their seats.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_03: Uh fair distance.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_02: A fair distance, of course.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_02: We don't want to disrespect Cher.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_03: It's gotten so complicated.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_03: It's such a it's such it's such nonsense world building.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_03: I I'm pretty on top of it.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_03: I know where we're at.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_03: You made it all up.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_02: I know where we are.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_02: So anyway.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_02: So we're now looking down from the box seats.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_02: The two characters have removed their shirts, their muscles glistening beneath the lights above.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we've had them oiled up for this special episode.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and they start fighting.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_02: So, guests first, in just this bare knuckle fist fight, um, who do you think's gonna win?
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_02: Lynn, where's it going?
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_00: All right, so they have all of their like innate abilities, right?
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: We haven't like stripped them of like they're not both basically.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, but it has to be innate.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_02: So do keep in mind that we are the podcast that stripped Darth Vader of his legs.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_03: No, we let him, we let him keep his legs, but we took his arms.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_03: We took his arms.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: So wait, then the next question is what season of Lucifer are we talking about for his ability, right?
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_02: So we look at these characters at their peak.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_02: Their peak.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_02: Ooh.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_00: Have you guys seen the most recent season?
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 27:27
  unknown: Okay.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um Lucifer.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't I don't know how Bell about it.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_00: Tell us about.
• 27:35
  unknown: All right.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_02: Well, Lucifer.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_02: So every guest, um, everyone who's in this discussion, you're sure you're basically your job is to convince the other two philosophers that you're right.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_02: You're judging this fight.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_00: All right, all right.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_00: Well, Lucifer is generally invincible.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_00: Uh he's got some wings.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see here.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_00: He's got his creepy devil face, which actually might Belmont would probably enjoy.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_03: Um are you coming on to me?
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_02: Now despite it's getting interesting.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_02: We're asked to clear the room for share.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_00: He's got super strength.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_00: So um I don't know how Belmont would um really do much other than perhaps just proposition him.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then it just depends on who who's the top on that.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, all right.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_02: So who's the top?
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_02: All right, so James, thoughts?
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_02: Who's gonna take it?
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_03: So I haven't seen all of Castlevania.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_03: How far do Trevor Belmont's powers extend?
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_02: And and that was the thing I was gonna bring up.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, eventually, um in that uh spoiler alert, everybody at home.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_02: So by the end of it, I mean, he's gone toe-to-toe with Alocard.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um, he and then the final showdown, he goes up against an ancient, basically, I mean, I guess at that point, a deity spirit of death and comes out on top.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_03: But but Lucifer has also beaten other, you know, celestial beings in one-on-one fist fights.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_03: Like Lucifer has done that as well.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_03: Hmm.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_03: It's really tough.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_03: Who would you say is tougher?
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_03: The spirit of death or Lucifer?
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_03: Then you then you can decide.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um, well then what I would have to say about it.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_02: So um the thing that always I've watched Lucifer, I've seen them all, and I I think at this point I'm just watching them out of spite.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_02: But um I I I saw them all, and but I had also read all of the Lucifer comic.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, you know, Neil Gaiman was involved heavily in that, so of course you gotta check that out.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and we're talking about if we were talking about the comic character, when he feels threatened, he literally calls down a son and just turns everything into dust.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, he has he's the like the he's the third most powerful character in the DC universe.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_02: So that means Superman's in there.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um and but we're talking about this Netflix series, and so every time I see Lucifer getting beaten around in like a nightclub or something like that, I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_02: Why would he ever be hurt?
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um you're talking about the third most powerful character who ties with the second most powerful character after God.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and so I always wondered in Netflix, like, why did you make him so weak?
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_03: It because he has to be relatable, because you don't want to fuck a god.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_02: Because we had to turn this into NCIS, that's what it was.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_02: You can't want to fuck a god, it's flying too close to the sun, you know.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_02: We don't want to Icarus the whole Netflix viewership.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I would uh and but because we're not talking about him, I just my nerd rage had to come out there, I guess.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_02: Um, because we're not talking about him.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um I think um this watered down version of Lucifer, um, when he comes against Trevor Belmont, who was put like way above what he was in any of the old Castlevania games or anything like that.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_03: That's pretty yeah, that that power is far more extensive than any previous Castlevania games.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we're we're talking about, I mean, in that final showdown, he leaves Alocard and his mage girlfriend behind, and he's like, check this shit out.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and like, and it honestly, like, I um there's parts of that series where I'm like, all right, can you please skip to point B?
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_02: Um and but when he's fighting that death guy, I'm like, I'm up there, I'm like, yeah, fuck you, I get him.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um and and so just because that final fight where this human with a chain whip takes out a god of death, uh-huh, I'm gonna give it to Trevor.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but that's my thoughts.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_02: So um, Lynn, uh final thoughts on round one and a vote.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_00: Well, uh I'm still gonna go with Lucifer because Trevor's not gonna have any of his uh equipment with him.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_00: So chain death plot armor, not gonna work on this one.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_03: That's right.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_03: He doesn't have a chain.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_02: He doesn't have a chain.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_03: He doesn't have a chain.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_02: Doesn't have a chain.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_02: James, uh final thoughts on a vote.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_03: I think I'm swayed toward Lucifer.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_03: Uh let me get close to the mic.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_03: I think I'm swayed toward Lucifer on this one.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_03: I think Lucifer Lucifer also has the he's hung out around humans.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_03: So he doesn't have the vulnerability that a spirit of death who simply sees humans as something to harvest.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_03: Like Lucifer actively fights that urge.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_03: And so he's gained an understanding of humans in a way that other immortal beings don't.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_03: And I think that that may take away uh good old Belmont's uh advantage of being like understanding humanity and having to fight for survival and shit.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_03: He's Lucifer like actively confronts his failure to realize that within the series, and I think you would understand Belmont's tenacity in a way that other immortal beings didn't.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_03: Interesting.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_03: So you're saying they'd fuck.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, definitely that's what I'd ask Gritty.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_03: Can I is there any way for me to see?
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_02: Can't we just you just slide to a piece of paper with a website?
• 33:16
  unknown: Thanks.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_02: If you're sharing that across the QR code, if you could go ahead and share that with us all.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um interesting.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then uh for me, I I would have to say, of course, Lucifer was gonna take it.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_02: And and that's how I've always felt.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and that's how I feel now.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_03: That's the rules on the podcast is if if two people vote synchronously, the other person's opinion magically changes.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_03: He never thought anything else.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_03: I never thought anything else, honestly.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_02: So um so there it is.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_02: So round one, um, Gen X5 Club Bar, Lucifer beats the fuck out of Trevor.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_02: Splatters him.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, fucking splatters him.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_02: It is vicious.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um, which brings us into round two.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_02: So now we zoom out into the city view.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_02: Um, these two characters now have access to all their stuff.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um they have access to stuff is useful.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they have access to their stuff.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_02: They get to leave the basement, so they have an environment, they have all that kind of thing.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_02: So the fight continues.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_02: Guests first, Lynn, what do you think is gonna happen?
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, so they have their various weaponry at this point.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_00: Lucifer can get the height advantage because he can go ahead and fly, unless somehow Belmont takes out his wings.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_00: So that is assuming he would have some kind of item that could damage an angel, which I guess if he's going after some god of death, sorry, I didn't end up watching the last episode yet.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, sorry about that.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_00: No, you're good.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_00: I don't mind spoilers.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_00: As a writer, I tend to forget them anyway, so it's great.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_03: I got too much shit to think about.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_00: Between the two.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_00: Too many books.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_03: Too many worlds to keep track of, to keep track of your world that I didn't create.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I mean Lucifer can go for the range weapons.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what the range is on that chain uh thing is, but I mean is totally the length.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's plot-long.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you got a plot-long whip.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, Lucifer has plot long other things, so it all works out.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_02: It's true.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_00: But he can totally just get a gun.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_00: So um, you know, even with uh Belmont's agility, if they could like get up to tall buildings and whatnot and try and even the score there, I I just can't see a way that Belmont would actually take Lucifer out.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_02: Alright.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean I gotta stick with Lucifer.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_03: Alright.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_03: Uh James, thoughts?
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_03: I think Belmont is uh he he does hunt down artifacts and things, right?
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_03: Like that's his deal, is he goes and hunts down artifacts to beat the person he's fighting.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_03: Um so I think he would there are things that hurt Lucifer out there.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_03: There absolutely are things that hurt Lucifer, and they're hidden to the world, but not to a Belmont.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_03: But not to a Belmont, right?
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_03: Or not to um who was um Cain.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_03: Or like when Cain was able to get things to to harm Lucifer, he was able to contrive situations to distract Lucifer, and often Lucifer distracts himself.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_03: That is true he's very good at that.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_03: He distracts himself very good point, and the person who pulls him back from distraction, he does not have available to him.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_03: There is one person in the universe who could pull Lucifer away from his distractions, and he does not have access to her right now.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_03: And I think that the fact that Belmont is so serious, never in a minute of enjoyment, fucking always hunting monsters, doesn't get distracted, I think that makes a huge difference.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, and then for me, um so I as I was watching the the Castlevania series, um what what I think happens here um is I think that the the plot style of Castlevania, where you have a force that is completely insurmountable, requires their three main characters to have insurmountable bubbles that pull it off.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_02: And one that Belmont used all the time before they like went into a fight is that he would use some exposition and be like, I was reading in the library, and I know that Lucifer that's a superpower.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_02: If I get a chain whip straight up his ass, um that'll be the end of it.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_02: And then he manages to get the chain whip where it needs to go.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_03: Because it's because it's plot-long.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_02: It's a yeah, because it's a plot-long chain whip.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_02: And Lucifer is so busy, in my opinion, at that point, trying to figure out how this ties into his worldviews and how this is going to help him and fix him, that Belmont has a distinct edge just as far as who their characters are and who it is, what they want, and everything like that.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and I think that if you told Trevor that Lucifer's the new Dracula and Lucifer's just like, but how is this affect me?
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_02: I think that Trevor's gonna squeak it out.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_02: But um, so Lynn, coming back to you, final thoughts and a vote.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_00: Well, all right.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_00: Spoiler alert, if you haven't seen the end of season five that just released, it is heavily implied that Lucifer becomes God.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, interesting.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm that's a really good distraction tactic.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_00: I think it would work to a point.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I also think that Lucifer would enjoy playing the game with him, teasing him, also trying to see how long he could draw it out because you know he's got nothing else going on if it's just them and the universe.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but ultimately, I still think Lucifer would win it.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, so there's one for uh Lucifer.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_03: Uh James, final thoughts and a vote.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_03: I still think I still think Belmont's gonna pull it off.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_03: I think, you know, uh Lucifer uh he he needs someone to direct him in his life to make him productive.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_03: He's not productive otherwise.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_03: He needs he needs people, and in the second round, he just doesn't have anybody.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_03: He's not gonna be he's going he the whole thing is that he's self-sure, right?
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_03: He's he's got pride, the original sin, and he I think he totally would toy with him, and he would make he in the past has made mistakes where he has toyed with people and things have gone too far.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_03: The detective was nearby and he gets shot or whatever.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_03: Like he takes the toying too far.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_03: Um I think that he would make that mistake because Belmont isn't just a dude, he's a dude who kills ancient beats.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_03: He's a dude.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_02: And then for me, um got in great points on all sides.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but I I just see not necessarily, and I mean this happens quite frequently.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_02: I I just think that Belmont's theme.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because I mean, like you're gonna reach that point where Lucifer, the way he behaves, he's going to become that death god.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's gonna become that insurmountable odd, and Belmont's gonna become the hero.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_02: And then just like in that story, hero's gotta take it.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_03: You're right.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_03: Belmont's not not a hero, but Lucifer sometimes is not a hero.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and and I just think and then Belmont is used to ultraviolence, and Netflix is not allowing that for Lucifer.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_02: So I think that's true.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I just think that Belmont can take this to a level that Lucifer is not prepared to go.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_02: Uh NCIS the devil.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_02: And so luckily, all three of us, we always said that Trevor was gonna take it.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_03: We all agree.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_00: Sure, we did, yes.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_03: There's that's what I said.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_03: There's no audio evidence that would refute that.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_01: None at all.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_01: I edit this.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_02: Which and that brings us into round three.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_02: So round three is the same thing as round two, except this time each character gets to bring a friend.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_03: This is where it gets dicey.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_02: This is where it gets a little dicey.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_02: So, um, Lynn, who are they gonna bring?
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_02: What's gonna happen?
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_02: Lay it out for us.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_00: Hmm.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so I'm leaning towards Luce for bringing in Maze.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um mostly because she is at that level of violence.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, demon torturing for thousands of years.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_00: I think she could handle the uh the blood, guts, and gore.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_04: That's true.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_00: I think she'd also get off on it, so that'd be extra fun.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_03: Um horny is sometimes distracting.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um so Belmont, he would probably bring on his sorceress girlfriend that I've already forgotten her name of.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um and she is a good power source.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_00: Arguably, I think she's better.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_03: Sometimes that happens.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_03: That happens in our third round sometimes.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_03: Sometimes people have more powerful friends, just they just have the name recognition, right?
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's like when Ryan Weasley brought Harry Potter.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_00: Uh the problem is this would be a very difficult fight depending on who was matched up with who.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_00: So if it was Lucifer and the magic girl, um I think that would end up distracting the hell out of Lucifer, but at the same time, her fire and her ice wouldn't end up actually hurting him.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um as far as if Lucifer was going after Belmont, apparently Belmont would win.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_00: Notice the song.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_01: You mean for sure, yeah.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I mean, can so that that brings up an interesting question.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_00: Would Belmont, with his ability to search out items and weaknesses, would he consider Chloe one of those items or weaknesses that he would pull in in order to?
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_02: I I thought for sure.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_02: You think for sure Chloe would be.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, like as soon as a character has such a distinct weak weakness, you know, he would not the villain.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_02: He's not not the hero.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, if Chloe's there, yeah, he'd he'd yeah, that changes.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_02: Well, uh we'll continue, please, Lynn.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_00: Well, no, I'm I'm kind of thinking along the same lines because so I don't know if when we're playing in your world with your rules, what can be considered the weaponry and how many people they have.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_03: You're a god here, you can help decide the rules.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you decide to do that.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_03: You tell us the rules.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and a lot of times we'll have like a war of whose universe would drag the other person in.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_02: And so it yeah, you never know what happens.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, this could go such interesting ways then.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_00: If they ended up getting pulled into the Castlevania universe and say Chloe does come along as a weapon against Lucifer, I mean, that would be total, pretty much knockout for Lucifer, because he'd be so distracted protecting Chloe that like there's I mean, Maze could take on quite a few, but then you get into all the bloodiness of that world.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_00: And if Belmont can basically just like send something after Chloe and then go about his day, it's two on one for Maze.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_00: However, if they get pulled into the Lucifer world, uh I'd love to see that.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_03: To solve crimes.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_03: Solve crimes together.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_03: Tie.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_02: Good work.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_02: That murderer did not get away.
• 44:27
  unknown: Right.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_00: Ultimate bounty hunters.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we all know that's.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think in the Lucifer universe, Lucifer would still have the advantage.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but that's in part with the new like season information that's been put out.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_00: I may have to continue thinking on this.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_02: Well, we'll come back around.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_02: So, James, who's gonna take it?
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_02: They get to bring a friend now.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_02: What happens?
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_02: Who do they bring?
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_03: It's it's a real shame.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_03: I just want to say it's a real shame because I want I want Lucifer to pull I want Lucifer to pull Belmont into his universe, and I want them to fuck, but the fucking on Lucifer is always implied.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_03: It's it never actually happened.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_03: Never actually see it.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_03: So I think we saw his ass once.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_03: So you did we did see his ass.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_03: Like the man ass is nice, but uh but no one ever actually has sex.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_03: They're all like, let's have sex, and he rubs his hands, and then they then we cut.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_02: Wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_02: You guys don't have sex that way.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_03: It's just alright, sex is over now.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like alright, we did it.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_03: It's it's just such a shame because I want his universe to be stronger than it really is.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_03: It's a shame that they imply so much.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_03: Um uh because it if they didn't imply so much, his universe could have been stronger, but his universe is weak because of it.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_03: So I would say that probably it it to me though, to me though, I would say Lucifer brings a menadeal.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_03: That's another good choice.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_02: That's all yeah, I was kind of thinking the same vein.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_03: If Lucifer brings a menadeal and a menadeal uses his powers, then I think that they could end up in Lucifer's universe, because Lucifer's universe has them as buddies.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_03: So they as buddies go back and forth, but then they always eventually solve the problem.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_03: Like either either a minadil brings Lucifer to his conclusion, or Lucifer brings Aminadil to his conclusion, and they learn something from each other.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_03: That's like such a strong trope in the show.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_03: Whenever they have a buddy episode, it it follows that same flow and it's really powerful throughout the series.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_03: And I think that maybe they would be able to do that with Belmont and uh his uh companion, whoever it is, even if it's a la carte or or otherwise.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, well then then I have a thing for you guys.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_02: We'll see what you feel about it.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't really give a shit who Lucifer brings.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um I think I think his best bet is gonna be a menadeal.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_02: Uh huh.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_02: Um I think Ben, I think Belmont could take an angel.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_02: But I think that Belmont is going to bring Dracula.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_02: I think that because you have two universes slamming into each other, and because the Castlevania fanship um has come so hard to Dracula's side, I think that he's viable.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_02: And I just I mean, because again, spoilers out there, um, we were talking about a character who is trying to commit genocide, and then the series ends with him coming back with his wife, and we're all like, Oh, thank God.
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_03: That is true.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_03: We were very quick to forgive a Nazi.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we did not give a shit as long as he got back with his wife.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_02: And I think Belmont will come to Dracula and be like, hey, the devil is coming, which means your lady friend here, who you will annihilate the world for, is in danger.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_02: Help me out.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that Belmont and Dracula will team up the Castlevania fanship, will just mess their pants.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, so you're saying it's a fan-powered win almost.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's a theme fan-powered win.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, this is gonna get tricky.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_03: Because Lucifer has a very big fanship, also.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_03: But the person that they all want to see him with is his weakness.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I bet there's I bet there's a lot of people out there who want to see Lucifer and But what what you were saying with where you have uh Lucifer and the Menadeal pulling back and forth and like we're friends, and then like I win, but I'm the friend now.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_02: I think Dracula's theme of fuck you.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_03: I'll genocide you.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_02: Genocide.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_02: And I am the most I am the creature that gives vampires power.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, look how fucking powerful I am.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_03: Man, it just sucks that Lucifer's theme isn't just a little if it's Lucifer's theme stronger.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_03: If it was an M-rated show, Lucifer would be able to pull.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_02: Had they have taken the Neil Gaiman Lucifer, uh-huh, I think it would be no question.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but just because that I think that what I think we'll what we see here is Trevor and Dracula showing up together for the biggest fan service of all time, um and just blowing through Lucifer, and that's that's that's my thoughts.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_02: So um, Lynn, bringing it back to you.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um, what do you think's gonna happen?
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_02: Final thoughts and a vote.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_03: Final chance to convince us.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_00: Interesting ideas.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_00: If it's based on fandom, I'm not sure which would really win.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, Lucifer did get pulled back on the air because of the fandom.
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_04: Just saying, that's it.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_00: Plus, they were supposed to end at season five.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, the fans demanded more, they're going to season six now.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_00: So we got we got some power there.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_04: That's true.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_00: Also, so there's a lot of talk about Chloe being his weakness.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_00: Again, season five kind of changes that.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they did change it a lot.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_02: Well, and the whole time I'm going to like the characters like, are you so dumb that you don't guys don't realize that his weakness and insecurity has become his strength?
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_02: Like the characters themselves, like you got you like Lucifer.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_02: Why aren't you realizing this, man?
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_02: You're supposed to be thousands.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_02: Uh you're supposed to be what?
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_02: What is it for Lucifer?
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_02: 5,000 years old.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_03: I knew it was before the Great Flood for sure.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I'm sorry, continue.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, so okay, phantom based.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_00: Still curious if Lucifer would win.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_00: We no longer have Chloe actually being a problem.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um and okay, so if you have Dracula coming into the Lucifer world and he's got all of his Draculaness.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_00: I was thinking, I was thinking that instead of bringing a Menadil or Maze, what if he brought Ella in and her just like shining brightness and hugs just ends up being the winner?
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_03: Ripped to pieces by vampires.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yo, I love Ella.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_02: That's like Ella's my favorite.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_02: That's like all Castlevania is.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, hey, show me something peaceful.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_02: I'm about to rip it apart.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_00: If they're in if they're in the Lucifer universe, you know.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_03: Do you want to see what the insides of that happy thing looks like?
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna show you, and I'm gonna say fuck a lot.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_03: See that MA, MA at the top.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_00: Shees.
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_00: You know, with Amenideal, I really I think even with you have the Dracula coming into the world, um, you're still you're not gonna get very far.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_00: I think at best you get a stalemate, mostly because like Amenadeal and Lucifer don't actually want to be fighting and killing, and they do have the killer spirit over there, but I think that that would just kind of cancel each other out with their power difference.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_00: So interesting.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sticking with Lucifer.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_03: Lucifer's playing a hard defense game.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_03: Not he doesn't want to fight, he's being forced to fight, but you feel like he's gonna play the hard D and he's gonna pull it out at the end, or leave it in, yeah, whichever one.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_03: It's up to him.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_03: It's up to him, really.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna say Honestly, I think he's a bottom to be real with you.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_03: I you know, no, he's he's clearly flexible in his yeah, in his relationships with people.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I wouldn't he's whatever you need him to be.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_03: He's what yeah, exact that's exactly who Lucifer is, which is such a cool personality.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I'm there for you, however you need me.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_03: That's what a cool person.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but also bloodthirsty, the bloodthirsty people usually kill those kinds of people.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_03: And so I think possibly um that in I think it's their personalities in the end here.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_03: Because we have we've we've shown undeniably that Belmont can beat Lucifer one-on-one.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_03: Nobody could deny that or disobeying.
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_03: Nobody could deny that.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_03: And so and so when you when you bring Dracula in, I think that I think that that just I think there's no one that Lucifer can bring who actually likes him, who wants to help him uh and and solve that.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_03: I think that Delmont wins.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, interesting.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then for me, you know, just for the sake of bringing a guest on the show, taking something they love and saying no.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_03: We're gonna break it.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_03: What do you love?
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_03: Tell us what you love so we can shatter it.
• 53:37
  unknown: Right.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_02: Because the only other option I I would see, I don't think Belmont is bringing in his the in in the in the mage.
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_02: Just no other options, you don't need to explain it.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_02: And it's either Dracula or Alocard, and I even think Alocard would be like, all right, you want to see some shit.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_03: Um I think even if he had the mage, you know, mate magic is cool, but Lucifer uh you know, magic has affected Lucifer in the game before.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I just I just see the the intensity of these two characters coming at them would blow a the Netflix the rating that they have as far as just what's allowed on there.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_02: I think it would just overpower it and wipe it away.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_02: But if we if we were talking about the Neil game in Lucifer, of course, Lucifer hands down, he wouldn't even need a fucking friend and he wouldn't bring one.
• 54:27
  unknown: Yeah.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_02: It's like why the fuck do I need a friend?
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_03: Um You know, and you know what's funny?
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_03: I that what you just said made a lot of sense.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_03: As soon as one person got disemboweled, as soon as Lucifer saw one person get disemboweled, he'd be like, What the fuck?
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_03: This shit does not happen on my show.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_03: I need a second.
• 54:49
  SPEAKER_01: What the fuck?
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_01: Is that gonna happen to me?
• 54:52
  SPEAKER_02: So I always just like it's shot and it's funny and cheeky.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um but yeah, and so uh Yeah.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_00: Forgetting a Menadil can stop time.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_03: And then I think Dracula will just lose any confidence during that time.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's right.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, as soon as a metadeal loses any confidence, he can't stop time.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but even then I think what would happen there is they stop time.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, everything stops, and they're and the two of them are talking at each other, and he says, This is a good thing you've gotten us into again.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and they like walk close to Dracula, who's standing there frozen.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_02: They look away for a second, and then Dracula disembowels him.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_02: Uh because that just seemed to be Dracula's thing.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_02: Like he's just this unstoppable force of hate.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_02: He is, he is really unstoppable.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_02: He's literally like in the series, he's unstoppable.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_02: He was just this unstoppable force of hate.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_02: And I just I haven't seen that level of unstoppableness in Lucifer.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_02: Lucifer did get taken down a couple times by human bullets.
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_02: And it's just it's only because I think Dracula would be the final determiner there.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_02: I think that it would have to go um what we all said.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um then show, you get to win it, but shh.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_01: Uh okay.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna have to give it to Trevor.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna have to give it to Trevor.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_02: So that's the final.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_02: There it is.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_02: So here it is.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Trevor pulled it out um Netflix.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_02: If you could go ahead and give us that money.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um Lucifer had a see Lucifer, amazing combatant, put up a great fight.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_03: Belmont is also an amazing combatant, though.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_03: It was a really tough match.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_03: Tough match for Trevor Burrus.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for joining us.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_03: That was fantastic.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_03: That was a great conversation.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so Lynn, thank you so much for joining us.
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you for allowing us to tear down the things that you enjoy.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_03: Um this way you can build back up in their place and be more complete.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_00: To be fair, story-wise, Lisa First is a much more compelling series.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_03: I'm I never stop looking at the screen.
• 57:05
  SPEAKER_03: I'm always waiting for some gorgeous person to move in front of my vision, my field of vision.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_03: No, and love it.
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_02: For and for the first season of um uh Castlevania, I'm like, oh, this is awesome.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_02: Second, third, I'm like, oh my god, can we just you know what where is the chase and how can we cut to it?
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then I was back for the deathbight at the end.
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um so yeah, I'm gonna have to give it to Lucifer in terms of what's more watchable.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_02: For sure.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but so again, um, Lynn, thank you so much.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um thank you for joining us.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_02: We loved having you on.
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_02: I I hope you enjoyed it as much as we did.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_00: It was great, but I might have to do a rematch with someone that I can win with.
• 57:46
  SPEAKER_02: For sure.
• 57:46
  SPEAKER_02: Sounds good.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_02: Deal.
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, where can we find you?
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so you can find me at lynlustig.com.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_00: You can also find me on Instagram, Lynn underscore lustig.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_00: I am on most things.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_00: If you just search Lynn Lustig, you will find me.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_02: Can't get an agent unless you can find it.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_02: Cheers.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_03: So uh James, where can you find us?
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_03: You can find uh high and dry at high and dry podcast on Instagram, high and dry pod on Twitter.
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_03: What is it?
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_03: We have a high and dry Facebook page.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we mean everywhere.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_03: Just search high and dry podcasts on Google.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_03: We are now the top search for that.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, beating out uh high and dry, the the what was it?
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_03: Led Zeppelin?
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_03: Was it a Led Zeppelin?
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_03: It wasn't Led Zeppelin, was it?
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_03: It was it?
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was no no no not Led Zeppelin, it's someone else.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_03: Van Halen.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_03: Van Halen, yeah.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_03: It's Van Halen, one of them.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_03: It's like not that.
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_03: I lost the thread.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_03: What was I doing?
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_03: Where can you find us?
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_03: You can find me on Twitch and Twitter at the Dabolical.
• 58:43
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• 58:52
  SPEAKER_02: All those places.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we're there.
• 58:53
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• 58:56
  SPEAKER_03: God, we're so terrible at this.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_03: Goodbye, everybody.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_02: Lynn, thanks again.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_02: Take it easy, everybody at home.
• 59:03
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• 59:06
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• 59:07
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• 59:09
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• 59:09
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• 59:11
  SPEAKER_02: Bye.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_02: Bye.