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- 0:18Speaker 2: Welcome to the Hugh Hewitt Show.
- 0:19Speaker 3: I'm guest host Kurt Schlichter, retired United States Army infantry colonel,
- 0:25Speaker 3: senior columnist over at townhall.com. And I was a 30-year
- 0:29Speaker 3: trial lawyer in California, which is where I got to
- 0:32Speaker 3: meet our.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Second guest, our first guest today. What am I saying?
- 0:37Speaker 3: She is the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights and
- 0:41Speaker 3: a fantastic trial lawyer herself, a great American, Harmeet Dhillon. Harmeet,
- 0:48Speaker 3: welcome to The Hugh Hewitt Show.
- 0:51Speaker 4: Thanks for having me back.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Well, it's always good to have you.
- 0:55Speaker 3: Can you give give the folks an update on how
- 0:59Speaker 3: things are going at the Civil Rights Division? You had
- 1:01Speaker 3: one heck of a job coming in and it's been
- 1:04Speaker 3: one heck of a challenge.
- 1:06Speaker 5: Well, absolutely.
- 1:07Speaker 4: So Civil Rights Division is one of the largest divisions
- 1:12Speaker 4: here at Maine Justice here in D.C., When I started,
- 1:16Speaker 4: it had about 400.
- 1:17Speaker 6: Attorneys in it.
- 1:19Speaker 4: And when we came in and told the lawyers here
- 1:22Speaker 4: that we were going to be implementing the president's executive
- 1:26Speaker 4: orders and prioritizing getting rid of DEI and cleaning up
- 1:31Speaker 4: voter rolls and doing some of these important things that
- 1:34Speaker 4: the American people voted for, eventually about 300 of those
- 1:38Speaker 4: attorneys quit. And so they self-deported and we then I
- 1:44Speaker 4: had the task of, while we had doge restrictions and
- 1:48Speaker 4: budgetary constraints, building back the Civil Rights Division. And I'm
- 1:52Speaker 4: really happy to say that I recruited over 100 great
- 1:55Speaker 4: legal professionals here to the DOJ. We have revitalized our efforts.
- 2:00Speaker 4: We have worked as a single unit with great zeal
- 2:05Speaker 4: and dedication to do exactly what I promised in my
- 2:09Speaker 4: first week on the job, which is implement those executive
- 2:12Speaker 4: orders within the statutory framework of all of our great
- 2:16Speaker 4: civil rights laws, which I love and respect. And so
- 2:21Speaker 4: from making sure that American citizens are not discriminated against
- 2:25Speaker 4: in hiring, from helping our states to stop illegal voting,
- 2:30Speaker 4: cleaning up the voter rolls, going after American universities that
- 2:34Speaker 4: take our federal funding and discriminate against people on the
- 2:37Speaker 4: basis of race and other categories, going after anti-Semitism, church politics,
- 2:44Speaker 4: blockades like what happened in Minnesota with the so-called protesters
- 2:49Speaker 4: who obstructed churchgoers and other priorities like that. We're just
- 2:58Speaker 4: really proud of the work that we've done here in
- 3:00Speaker 4: the Civil Rights Division.
- 3:01Speaker 2: And every day.
- 3:03Speaker 4: We're in the headlines from making findings, letters against universities
- 3:07Speaker 4: for their shocking findings. ongoing discrimination and a violation of
- 3:11Speaker 4: students with fair admissions and other cases like that to
- 3:14Speaker 4: opening up, you know, all new kinds of cases.
- 3:16Speaker 6: So it's just been great.
- 3:18Speaker 3: Well, you just dropped a case on the University of California,
- 3:21Speaker 3: San Francisco Medical School, where they were discriminating what used
- 3:27Speaker 3: to be called reverse discrimination, but it's really just discrimination.
- 3:31Speaker 2: What's going on there?
- 3:33Speaker 4: Well, UCSF, like some of our nation's most elite other
- 3:37Speaker 4: medical institutions, has defied students of fair admissions by continuing
- 3:44Speaker 4: to put its finger on the scale to get the
- 3:46Speaker 4: types of makeup in their class that they view to
- 3:49Speaker 4: be desirable. So-called underrepresented minorities, Black and Hispanic, are several
- 3:55Speaker 4: times more likely to be admitted with the same credentials
- 3:59Speaker 4: than white and Asian applicants. So, for example, a black
- 4:04Speaker 4: applicant to UCSF with the same type of credentials as
- 4:08Speaker 4: a white applicant is 12 times more likely to get it.
- 4:10Speaker 4: Those are pretty shocking disparities and they're illegal. And so
- 4:14Speaker 4: we sent our findings to UCSF. We've given, we're giving
- 4:18Speaker 4: them an opportunity to come to the table and reach
- 4:21Speaker 4: a resolution with us.
- 4:23Speaker 2: Um, I don't think they.
- 4:24Speaker 5: Will, but you know, if they do, that'll be great.
- 4:27Speaker 4: And if they don't, we'll sue them. So we are very,
- 4:30Speaker 4: very focused on making sure that, uh, First of all,
- 4:34Speaker 4: we cannot fool around with the quality of medical education
- 4:37Speaker 4: in our country. It actually matters much more so than
- 4:41Speaker 4: perhaps some other.
- 4:43Speaker 6: Disciplines. And we intend.
- 4:47Speaker 4: To make sure that our federal dollars are going towards
- 4:50Speaker 4: ensuring the finest applicants are getting the education here in
- 4:55Speaker 4: the United States.
- 4:57Speaker 3: Well, you know, you and I are both trial lawyers.
- 5:00Speaker 3: You and I both actually... had to bring lawsuits. And
- 5:03Speaker 3: I'm just kind of wondering, what would the argument on
- 5:08Speaker 3: behalf of this kind of manifest bias be? Or are
- 5:14Speaker 3: they just hoping that they can get themselves a Obama
- 5:18Speaker 3: or Biden appointee judge in the Northern District of California
- 5:23Speaker 3: and bide their time until maybe there's a new president
- 5:27Speaker 3: in two years?
- 5:28Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, so we saw an example of that
- 5:31Speaker 4: in real life, I think, last week when we made
- 5:33Speaker 4: similar findings against UC Berkeley's law school. And the dean
- 5:38Speaker 4: who was caught red-handed, as is quoted in our complaint,
- 5:43Speaker 4: our findings, saying that he was going to get around
- 5:49Speaker 4: students for fair admissions by using sneaky criteria and tactics
- 5:53Speaker 4: like essays and things like that. That's their argument is, oh, well,
- 5:58Speaker 4: these numbers only tell part of the story. We're absolutely
- 6:02Speaker 4: looking at a holistic picture of each candidate separately. But
- 6:08Speaker 4: that's why we have these statisticians and people here on
- 6:13Speaker 4: our staff who are not lawyers, the statisticians who actually
- 6:16Speaker 4: do a very thorough job of crunching this data. The
- 6:20Speaker 4: numbers don't lie. And you might see a variance of
- 6:24Speaker 4: one time or two times as likely to get in.
- 6:26Speaker 4: But when somebody is 12 times more likely to get
- 6:28Speaker 4: in if their race is one race as opposed to another,
- 6:31Speaker 4: that's really quite difficult.
- 6:33Speaker 6: To explain other than.
- 6:36Speaker 4: By resort to intentional discrimination. So that's the argument we're
- 6:40Speaker 4: going to be making in court if we have to
- 6:41Speaker 4: go there.
- 6:42Speaker 3: One of the most interesting things about your tenure is
- 6:46Speaker 3: that you've actually defended the civil rights of a long
- 6:50Speaker 3: oppressed group of Americans. Gun owners, you've actually treated the
- 6:55Speaker 3: Second Amendment like it's actually in the Constitution, something judges,
- 6:59Speaker 3: including especially in the Ninth Circuit, don't seem to believe
- 7:02Speaker 3: is a thing at all. You recently went after San Jose.
- 7:08Speaker 3: I guess it's a Bay Area. I guess you're focusing
- 7:11Speaker 3: on the Bay Area, which both of us came from,
- 7:13Speaker 3: by the way. What's going on in San Jose and
- 7:17Speaker 3: how are you going to make sure that Americans can
- 7:20Speaker 3: exercise their right to keep and bear arms?
- 7:23Speaker 4: Well, San Jose, I think we've held over a dozen
- 7:26Speaker 4: lawsuits now around the country against different targets. And San
- 7:30Speaker 4: Jose is charging $ 1, 600 for a concealed carry weapons permit
- 7:38Speaker 4: application and requiring a psychiatric screening for enjoying a constitutionally
- 7:45Speaker 4: protected right. And so some level of.
- 7:49Speaker 6: You know, moderate fee.
- 7:50Speaker 4: Like I had to pay, I think something under a
- 7:52Speaker 4: hundred dollars here in DC to get my CCW permits. That's,
- 7:56Speaker 4: you know, a processing fee is not presumptively unreasonable, but
- 8:00Speaker 4: $ 1, 600 is real money. It's more than some people's rent.
- 8:03Speaker 6: It's, you know, two car payments for people.
- 8:06Speaker 2: It's a lot of money.
- 8:07Speaker 4: And that is a material barrier to enjoying that constitutional right. And,
- 8:13Speaker 4: you know, why should you have to prove that you're
- 8:15Speaker 4: not crazy? Also, you know, I think the presumption should
- 8:18Speaker 4: be on the government to prove that. So I, for
- 8:21Speaker 4: these reasons, we've sued San Jose. San Jose has previously
- 8:25Speaker 4: been sued by me in private practice. They had some
- 8:28Speaker 4: other unconstitutional scheme that we challenged. And so, um, these
- 8:33Speaker 4: jurisdictions are getting away with it because there aren't enough
- 8:36Speaker 4: gun groups out there to challenge them. And, you know,
- 8:39Speaker 4: they never expected the federal government to come in, but
- 8:42Speaker 4: I'm really confident of eventually prevailing on these cases.
- 8:45Speaker 3: Well, you know, I, I, a California resident, I've got, uh,
- 8:49Speaker 3: I've got a gun permit elsewhere. I was literally a
- 8:52Speaker 3: colonel who's been in two combat zones and who commanded
- 8:55Speaker 3: thousands of guys with automatic weapons on the streets of California.
- 8:59Speaker 3: And I have to ask the permission of some clerk
- 9:03Speaker 3: who hadn't even been born yet when I was first time.
- 9:06Speaker 3: First time I was a platoon leader, whether I can
- 9:09Speaker 3: exercise my Second Amendment right. Hey, if you need a
- 9:11Speaker 3: test plaintiff, you know how to spell my name. Harmeet Dhillon,
- 9:16Speaker 3: assistant attorney general attorney.
- 9:19Speaker 2: For civil rights.
- 9:20Speaker 3: Thank you for being here on the Hugh Hewitt Show.
- 9:23Speaker 3: And thank you and your folks for all your great work.
- 9:26Speaker 3: If you know a young lawyer, have him get in
- 9:28Speaker 3: touch with the DOJ. It's a great way to start
- 9:31Speaker 3: your legal career. You'll be in the trenches from day one.
- 9:34Speaker 3: I'm Kurt Schlichter. We'll be right back. Welcome back to
- 9:40Speaker 3: the Hugh Hewitt Show. I'm guest host Kurt Schlichter. Getting
- 9:43Speaker 3: a little 80s power pop in there with Kim Wilde.
- 9:47Speaker 2: Kids in America. Because I'm old and I was around
- 9:50Speaker 2: when it first came out. Wow.
- 9:53Speaker 3: But we got a young whippersnapper with us now, Noah Rothman.
- 9:56Speaker 3: He's a National Review's senior political writer.
- 9:59Speaker 2: And he's the author of Blood and Progress. You can
- 10:01Speaker 2: follow him at Noah C.
- 10:03Speaker 6: Rothman.
- 10:04Speaker 2: Noah, tell us a little about Blood and Progress. I'm
- 10:06Speaker 2: all in favor of one of those.
- 10:10Speaker 7: Unfortunately, a lot of people are, which is part of
- 10:12Speaker 7: the problem. That is the story of, an at the
- 10:20Speaker 7: turn of the last century to now, whenever you hear,
- 10:24Speaker 7: whenever there's an act of political violence, whether it's on
- 10:26Speaker 7: the left or the right, you instantly hear the reaction
- 10:29Speaker 7: from the mainstream press and observers in that orbit who say, well,
- 10:33Speaker 7: you know, the right, the American right is uniquely violent.
- 10:36Speaker 8: This is an outlier episode.
- 10:38Speaker 7: And it happens consistently to the point where it's become
- 10:41Speaker 7: a mantra. We hear about it after an assassination attempt
- 10:43Speaker 7: or a successful assassination.
- 10:45Speaker 8: Of a right-wing figure.
- 10:47Speaker 7: When the mobs descend on American cities almost nightly, this
- 10:50Speaker 7: act of vandalism.
- 10:51Speaker 8: Or the other.
- 10:52Speaker 7: And it got to the point where you have to
- 10:54Speaker 7: question the evidence of your own eyes, which I did.
- 10:56Speaker 7: And the book chronicles three major waves of left-wing political
- 10:59Speaker 7: violence in the United States in the 1910s, 1920s, 1970s, 1980s.
- 11:04Speaker 7: And today, if you look at the periods that were
- 11:08Speaker 7: riven by political strife and particularly by left-wing political violence,
- 11:12Speaker 7: our era mirrors those of the past in some pretty
- 11:16Speaker 7: conspicuous ways. And you don't know, most people don't know
- 11:19Speaker 7: about them, And if you don't know about them, you
- 11:21Speaker 7: don't know what the signs look like. You certainly don't
- 11:23Speaker 7: know what the contours of the crisis is, and you
- 11:25Speaker 7: can't get your hands around it.
- 11:27Speaker 8: That's what we've been doing.
- 11:28Speaker 7: We've been saying this country has a political violence problem. Well,
- 11:30Speaker 7: everybody in the mainstream focuses on one side of that equation,
- 11:33Speaker 7: ignoring the degree to which politically those who are inclined
- 11:37Speaker 7: towards political violence take inspiration from both their side and
- 11:40Speaker 7: the other side, which they resolve to meet out acts
- 11:42Speaker 7: of violence against. And they always see the state as
- 11:45Speaker 7: on the other side. It doesn't matter what side of
- 11:47Speaker 7: the political equation you are. So It's a subject that's
- 11:49Speaker 7: rife for study, and it's very understudied to a conspicuous degree.
- 11:54Speaker 7: You have to wonder if those who are avoiding the
- 11:57Speaker 7: confrontation of America's history with violence on the left just
- 12:00Speaker 7: don't want you to know about it and therefore reach
- 12:03Speaker 7: the conclusions that you would need to reach in order
- 12:05Speaker 7: to stop it from continuing.
- 12:07Speaker 3: Well, Noah Rothman, of course, 50 years ago, the early 70s,
- 12:11Speaker 3: late 60s, the United States was undergoing a very low-grade
- 12:15Speaker 3: leftist insurgency with thousands of bombings, hundreds of murders, and
- 12:20Speaker 3: you really don't hear about that. It was treated like
- 12:21Speaker 3: a criminal justice problem. You know, I've written fiction about
- 12:29Speaker 3: America descending into violence because I served in Kosovo in
- 12:33Speaker 3: the ruins of a civil war. My family's town was
- 12:38Speaker 3: burned down, Chambersburg, several times by Confederates in the Civil War.
- 12:43Speaker 3: So I'm very sensitive to this issue. Tell me if
- 12:48Speaker 3: you think I'm wrong. Leftists have small spasms of violence,
- 12:55Speaker 3: but if the right was actually violent in that sense,
- 13:00Speaker 3: if it decided it would adopt that norm, it's got
- 13:04Speaker 3: the weapons, it's got the training, and frankly, it's got
- 13:07Speaker 3: the numbers. I think it would be a different quality
- 13:10Speaker 3: and quantity of violence, and I'm not sure the left
- 13:13Speaker 3: would be in a very good position to deal with it.
- 13:17Speaker 7: Well, you're talking about mass organized violence, which is not
- 13:20Speaker 7: what political violence in this country looks like in the absence.
- 13:23Speaker 2: Of real insurrectionary periods.
- 13:26Speaker 8: Well, not in 150 years. Yeah, not in real insurrectionary periods.
- 13:29Speaker 7: I mean the people who are attracted to political violence
- 13:31Speaker 7: are delusional in a clinical sense. They allied a sequence
- 13:37Speaker 7: of events that gets them from A, active political bloodshed,
- 13:40Speaker 7: to B, situation is better for me and everybody in
- 13:44Speaker 7: my orbit. And that's just– that's delusional. But there is
- 13:48Speaker 7: always an audience for violence, particularly– it's not even particularly
- 13:53Speaker 7: on the left and the right. The right has their
- 13:54Speaker 7: own unique pathologies and dangerous elements among them. But we've
- 13:58Speaker 7: been seeing plenty of mainstream left-wing political actors endorse acts
- 14:03Speaker 7: of violence and adopt the kind of deluded thinking that
- 14:06Speaker 7: you would assume would be exclusive to those who are
- 14:09Speaker 7: disordered and delusioned. Take the killing of Brian Thompson, UnitedHealthcare CEO,
- 14:15Speaker 7: by Luigi Mangione, allegedly. Mangione's killing was instantly, within hours,
- 14:21Speaker 7: celebrated organically at the grassroots level and excused by Democratic
- 14:26Speaker 7: politicians like Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Elizabeth Warren, Chris Murphy,
- 14:32Speaker 7: who all condemned the killing and yet appended a very
- 14:35Speaker 7: pregnant butt onto that condemnation. But you have to understand,
- 14:38Speaker 7: everybody's so angry, but you have to understand the healthcare
- 14:40Speaker 7: system is broken.
- 14:41Speaker 8: In Bernie Sanders' case, but everything's broken.
- 14:43Speaker 7: The healthcare system, the education system, Finance system, election system, banking.
- 14:48Speaker 8: System, it's all broken. What do we need?
- 14:51Speaker 7: Revolutionary upheaval, revolutionary change to address everything and anything all
- 14:56Speaker 7: at once in order to address the conditions that this
- 14:59Speaker 7: one schizophrenic lost his mind over. And you see that
- 15:03Speaker 7: time and time again with acts of violence that are
- 15:05Speaker 7: perpetrated by people who are kind of delusional and then
- 15:08Speaker 7: sometimes not delusional. Do you remember the third assassination attempt
- 15:11Speaker 7: on Donald Trump, the guy who did it? So what
- 15:15Speaker 7: happened after that, right? Donald Trump sits down with Kelly O'Donnell,
- 15:19Speaker 7: I believe. If not, I think it was Kelly O'Donnell,
- 15:22Speaker 7: maybe Nora O'Donnell.
- 15:24Speaker 8: CBS News.
- 15:25Speaker 7: And he was pressed to explain why his killer, his
- 15:29Speaker 7: would-be killer, whose delusional thinking was written down in advance,
- 15:33Speaker 7: why he's wrong. Why aren't you a rapist and a
- 15:38Speaker 7: murderer and a traitor to this country? That's the sort
- 15:41Speaker 7: of discourse that is just currency on places like Blue
- 15:44Speaker 7: Sky that I guarantee you a lot of the mainstream
- 15:46Speaker 7: political reporters who would ask that kind of a question
- 15:48Speaker 7: frequent pretty regularly. So they don't think it's all that
- 15:52Speaker 7: unusual that this guy was beholden to those pathologies and
- 15:56Speaker 7: just acted out on them. That was the weird part.
- 15:58Speaker 7: Not everything he believed. So there isn't a symmetry on
- 16:02Speaker 7: the right when it comes to that sort of thing.
- 16:04Speaker 7: The people who are deluded and inclined towards violence on
- 16:06Speaker 7: the American right, their thinking is not celebrated.
- 16:11Speaker 8: by.
- 16:11Speaker 7: Mainstream political figures within the Republican Party or the conservative movement.
- 16:16Speaker 8: You can't say the same on the progressive left.
- 16:19Speaker 3: Well, we're talking to Noah C. Rothman of National Review,
- 16:22Speaker 3: author of Blood and Progress, a chronicle of leftist violence
- 16:26Speaker 3: throughout American history. Noah, I'm very concerned. I'm always very
- 16:30Speaker 3: concerned about what the norms are. Uh, and, uh, You know,
- 16:34Speaker 3: I'm also someone who says, well, if everyone's not abiding
- 16:38Speaker 3: by the norms, they're not really norms, are they? And
- 16:40Speaker 3: I find that terrifying when it comes to violence.
- 16:44Speaker 2: Like I said, I served in Kosovo.
- 16:46Speaker 3: There would be a village here that had been there
- 16:49Speaker 3: for a thousand years, and a village there had been
- 16:52Speaker 3: a thousand years, and they'd lived in peace. And then
- 16:55Speaker 3: Yugoslavia falls apart, and one of them butchers the other
- 16:57Speaker 3: because one's a different ethnicity.
- 17:00Speaker 2: It's... It's a road to madness. And I look at
- 17:05Speaker 2: these polls.
- 17:07Speaker 3: A poll just came out that 20 what, 29 percent
- 17:10Speaker 3: of American Democrats would support the assassination of Trump. Forty
- 17:14Speaker 3: two percent would support a coup d'etat. Boy, if you
- 17:17Speaker 3: want violence, throw down a coup d'etat. Is there any
- 17:21Speaker 3: way out of this?
- 17:23Speaker 7: Well, you're actually being charitable. I think that poll, it
- 17:25Speaker 7: was 32 percent in that poll who supported an assassination attempt.
- 17:30Speaker 7: And all of those outcomes in that poll, which might
- 17:33Speaker 7: be sensationalized, who knows?
- 17:35Speaker 8: But there's I mean, I've done the work. There's plenty
- 17:37Speaker 8: of data.
- 17:38Speaker 7: And I have about 80 pages of notes in this book.
- 17:40Speaker 7: So I'd love for somebody to come fact check me.
- 17:42Speaker 7: But the data suggests that Democrats rank and file are
- 17:45Speaker 7: becoming more comfortable with political violence. But there's no outcome
- 17:49Speaker 7: there that's good for them.
- 17:51Speaker 9: No.
- 17:51Speaker 7: So the options were impeached and convicted. Twenty fifth Amendment passed.
- 17:55Speaker 7: Coup died overnight or assassinated. All of those would be
- 17:59Speaker 7: get bad conditions for the Democratic Party in one way
- 18:03Speaker 7: or another.
- 18:03Speaker 8: They just aren't confronting them.
- 18:05Speaker 7: They're just thinking two seconds ahead, instant gratification.
- 18:08Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Noah C.
- 18:09Speaker 4: Rothman.
- 18:10Speaker 3: We've got to go. He's the author of Blood and Progress.
- 18:13Speaker 3: You should check it out. A lot of food for
- 18:16Speaker 3: thought there. I'm Kurt Schlichter. We'll be back with more
- 18:19Speaker 3: Hugh Hewitt Show. Welcome back to the Hugh Hewitt Show
- 18:24Speaker 3: with me, guest host Kurt Schlichter, senior columnist at townhall.com,
- 18:27Speaker 3: retired United States Army infantry colonel. It is my pleasure
- 18:32Speaker 3: to welcome to the Hugh Hewitt Show a veteran of
- 18:35Speaker 3: the United States Navy, an important supporting branch of the
- 18:39Speaker 3: military for the decisive force in the United States military,
- 18:43Speaker 3: that is the U.S.
- 18:44Speaker 10: Army.
- 18:45Speaker 3: And he's also incidentally a senator from the state of Montana.
- 18:49Speaker 2: It's Tim Sheehy. Welcome to the show, Senator.
- 18:53Speaker 11: Thanks, Kirk.
- 18:54Speaker 12: But, you know, the Navy actually is enshrined in the Constitution.
- 18:58Speaker 9: The Army is just a militia.
- 18:59Speaker 12: So I'm not sure how you feel about that.
- 19:03Speaker 3: You know, I feel like I'm back at a Schlichter
- 19:05Speaker 3: family reunion. I'm the only one who wasn't in the Navy.
- 19:07Speaker 2: Good.
- 19:10Speaker 12: Obviously, you're at the bottom of the totem pole.
- 19:12Speaker 9: Sorry to hear that.
- 19:14Speaker 2: Yeah, I am kind of the outlier. But, yeah.
- 19:18Speaker 3: You know, one thing about the United States Navy, it fights.
- 19:22Speaker 3: And I have not seen, I've seen a lot of
- 19:26Speaker 3: the Republicans who don't seem to want to fight, Senator Sheehy.
- 19:29Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of Republicans who are blackmailing, who
- 19:31Speaker 3: are dooming, who are allowing their morale to hit rock bottom.
- 19:36Speaker 2: What's going on with these people?
- 19:40Speaker 13: Well, you know, we have a very contested information sphere
- 19:45Speaker 13: these days, as you know, Kurt, and you know, I
- 19:47Speaker 13: gave a speech the other day at the RJC and
- 19:49Speaker 13: talked about how, you know, our enemies still very much
- 19:52Speaker 13: exist around the world. They are combining, they're coordinating, but
- 19:55Speaker 13: their weapons have changed. You know, instead of flying airplanes
- 19:57Speaker 13: into buildings, they're buying podcasters. You know, instead of suicide vests,
- 20:02Speaker 13: they're buying our colleges and our education. They're literally brainwashing
- 20:04Speaker 13: the next generation of Americans. And we have to fight
- 20:07Speaker 13: the fight where it is, which you made the point
- 20:10Speaker 13: very eloquently there that we have a lot of people.
- 20:12Speaker 12: Who are simply giving up on some of these fronts.
- 20:14Speaker 13: Instead of fighting information, bad information with truth, they're simply
- 20:19Speaker 13: believing it and co-opting a podcast sphere that seems to
- 20:22Speaker 13: want to destroy America, seems to accept our decline and
- 20:25Speaker 13: accept that our enemies are ascended and always will be.
- 20:28Speaker 13: And as soon as you let people convince themselves of
- 20:31Speaker 13: these false truths, then, of course, they end up believing it,
- 20:34Speaker 13: and they perpetuate it. And we can't simply perpetuate the
- 20:37Speaker 13: decline of our country because not only is it not true,
- 20:40Speaker 13: but it's a complete betrayal.
- 20:42Speaker 12: Of our children and the next generation.
- 20:44Speaker 13: We've got to fight for the greatest country ever. We've
- 20:46Speaker 13: got to continue to support this empire of freedom and
- 20:49Speaker 13: innovation that this country has been the tentpole of for
- 20:51Speaker 13: hundreds of years.
- 20:52Speaker 12: And we have to say very clearly that we're.
- 20:55Speaker 13: Going to defend this civilization and our right to exist.
- 20:58Speaker 13: And unfortunately, many of our countrymen seem to have given
- 21:02Speaker 13: up already.
- 21:03Speaker 3: Well, look, you're showing the kind of fighting spirit I
- 21:05Speaker 3: love to see, the fighting spirit that my troops showed,
- 21:10Speaker 3: the fighting spirit that.
- 21:11Speaker 2: Your troops showed. And I just see so many in the.
- 21:15Speaker 3: Republican Party, especially over this midterm election, who are completely blackmailing.
- 21:20Speaker 2: We've not only lost the House, we're going to lose
- 21:22Speaker 2: the Senate. Everything's going to hell. Run around with your
- 21:26Speaker 2: hair on fire. Everybody panic. Do you think we're going
- 21:29Speaker 2: to lose the Senate in this midterm? Senator Sheehy?
- 21:34Speaker 13: When you look at the polls of what we're seeing,
- 21:35Speaker 13: first of all, as you know, Kurt, traditionally the political
- 21:39Speaker 13: pendulum swings against the party in power, especially that final
- 21:44Speaker 13: midterm of a two-term president, almost historically unbroken, sustains major
- 21:49Speaker 13: losses in congressional elections. That's just a historical fact. I'm
- 21:53Speaker 13: not taking anyone's side. That's just the reality. However, if
- 21:56Speaker 13: we were going to have a blue tidal wave, like
- 21:58Speaker 13: as you said, everyone's blackpilling about We would see numbers
- 22:01Speaker 13: far beyond what we're seeing. We would not see tied
- 22:04Speaker 13: polls in Minnesota. We would not see striking distance polls
- 22:08Speaker 13: in Michigan and New Hampshire, where potentially we're going to
- 22:10Speaker 13: have three flips in the Senate, New Hampshire, Minnesota, and Michigan.
- 22:16Speaker 13: We wouldn't see the Democrats spending tens of millions of
- 22:19Speaker 13: dollars to defend those seats if it was already a
- 22:21Speaker 13: fait accompli. Now, there's no question, again, we have headwinds
- 22:25Speaker 13: just because of the nature of the political momentum. But
- 22:28Speaker 13: the truth is, as much as they want to tell
- 22:30Speaker 13: everybody that the president is unpopular and the Republicans are unpopular,
- 22:33Speaker 13: you know who's even more unpopular? The guy on the
- 22:35Speaker 13: screen right now, Chuck Schumer. And congressional Democrats have like
- 22:39Speaker 13: a 7% approval rating.
- 22:40Speaker 2: And why?
- 22:41Speaker 13: Because all they've done is obstruct. They view their entire
- 22:45Speaker 13: charter is to resist, resist, resist.
- 22:48Speaker 12: And that's what they've been doing for the last year
- 22:49Speaker 12: and a half.
- 22:50Speaker 13: We could have gotten good bipartisan things done that are
- 22:53Speaker 13: good for the American people. Instead, they have shut the
- 22:55Speaker 13: government down three times, longest shutdown in American history. They've
- 22:59Speaker 13: obstructed every single nominee.
- 23:01Speaker 12: They turned the U.S. Senate into a house.
- 23:02Speaker 13: Of obstruction for the sole purpose of depriving the American
- 23:06Speaker 13: people of a functioning government.
- 23:08Speaker 12: They failed.
- 23:08Speaker 13: We've pushed through time and again. We've passed generationally impactful legislation.
- 23:14Speaker 13: And of course, most importantly, we've done things like seal
- 23:18Speaker 13: the border, seal it, not slow down the flow of illegals,
- 23:20Speaker 13: not meter them.
- 23:21Speaker 12: We have sealed the border.
- 23:23Speaker 13: And that has massive impacts on crime, on cost of living,
- 23:27Speaker 13: on safety in our streets. And I think we certainly
- 23:30Speaker 13: are seeing headwinds. People are frustrated as they always are
- 23:33Speaker 13: with the economy. Everyone always wants to make more money
- 23:35Speaker 13: and pay less for groceries, of course. But at the
- 23:38Speaker 13: end of the day, I think people are going to
- 23:39Speaker 13: walk into the polls in November and they're going to say,
- 23:40Speaker 13: you know what? My streets are safer. The border is secure.
- 23:45Speaker 12: My life is cheaper. Inflation is still there. But guess what?
- 23:48Speaker 13: 3% inflation is way better than 12% inflation that we
- 23:51Speaker 13: had under Joe Biden. So I think we're going to
- 23:53Speaker 13: win this thing. It's going to be tough, no question.
- 23:56Speaker 13: Every election is tough, but we're going to earn it,
- 23:57Speaker 13: and we're going to hold the Senate.
- 24:00Speaker 3: What happens if we lose the Senate? Sketch out that
- 24:03Speaker 3: scenario for us.
- 24:06Speaker 13: Impeachment, investigations, constant circus, kangaroo courts. If we lose the
- 24:11Speaker 13: House and the Senate, if we lose both houses, unfortunately,
- 24:14Speaker 13: the last two years of the presidency will be a joke.
- 24:18Speaker 13: It'll be embarrassing for us on the world stage because
- 24:21Speaker 13: we're going to have communist jihadists in office who are
- 24:23Speaker 13: going to use their elected position not to benefit their constituents,
- 24:28Speaker 13: not to fight for their district or to improve America's
- 24:30Speaker 13: standing in the world. They're going to use it as
- 24:32Speaker 13: a pathetic circus show to try to destroy this president,
- 24:36Speaker 13: his cabinet, and anybody affiliated with them. And that's the alternative.
- 24:40Speaker 12: And I think that's when we see.
- 24:42Speaker 13: Republicans who are saying, hey, I'm going to vote for
- 24:44Speaker 13: Democrats now because I can't stand Trump so much. Hey,
- 24:46Speaker 13: I'm going to vote for the third party candidate to
- 24:49Speaker 13: send a message to Republicans that they haven't gotten enough done.
- 24:52Speaker 13: I think we need to remember that we do live
- 24:54Speaker 13: in a Republic and our framers very wisely built our
- 24:57Speaker 13: Republic in a way that it actually is hard to
- 24:59Speaker 13: get things done.
- 25:00Speaker 12: And as much as Americans love.
- 25:01Speaker 13: To be individual, get her, get her done mentality. The
- 25:05Speaker 13: truth is our Republic was built to make it hard
- 25:08Speaker 13: to get things done because our framers believe that a
- 25:12Speaker 13: good policy and a good decision will endure the emotions
- 25:14Speaker 13: of the moment. So make it go through a tough
- 25:17Speaker 13: process in order to be passed. And I think when
- 25:18Speaker 13: they look at what we've actually done and delivered and
- 25:20Speaker 13: remember that, they're going to support. But it's very easy
- 25:23Speaker 13: to caught up in the negativity moment and decide they're
- 25:25Speaker 13: going to turn on the cause that has delivered a
- 25:27Speaker 13: lot for them.
- 25:28Speaker 12: And I hope that they don't.
- 25:29Speaker 13: And I don't think that they will, because the numbers
- 25:31Speaker 13: don't show that there's going to be a big defeat.
- 25:34Speaker 12: This fall for us.
- 25:35Speaker 2: Well, look, it is. I got to tell you, it is.
- 25:39Speaker 2: It's like a tonic to hear you talk. But, you know, a.
- 25:43Speaker 3: Combat leader with a combat leader's attitude. Senator Tim Sheeny
- 25:48Speaker 3: from the great state of Montana. Take it to the
- 25:53Speaker 3: enemy and put them down. My name's Kurt Schlichter. I'm
- 25:57Speaker 3: guest hosting for Hugh Hewitt. We got a lot more
- 25:59Speaker 3: to come. Stick around.
- 26:03Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Hugh Hewitt Show.
- 26:04Speaker 3: I'm guest host Kurt Schlichter. And, of course, one of
- 26:06Speaker 3: my favorite guests when I guest host here. is Mary
- 26:09Speaker 3: Catherine Hamm. She does everything. She is everywhere. And boy,
- 26:16Speaker 3: you are all over X today. I've been reading it,
- 26:19Speaker 3: and I just told myself when I have her on,
- 26:22Speaker 3: I'm just going to say three words, Nicole Hannah-Jones, go.
- 26:27Speaker 14: Yeah, I got a lot of thoughts about Nicole Hannah-Jones,
- 26:30Speaker 14: the New York Times writer and education alleged expert. who
- 26:34Speaker 14: sent her child to a predominantly black and admittedly not
- 26:40Speaker 14: succeeding school on purpose as a part of a social
- 26:44Speaker 14: experiment and political experiment to see if the mere presence
- 26:47Speaker 14: of Nicole Hannah-Jones could elevate this school to work properly
- 26:51Speaker 14: for her child. Nicole Hannah-Jones is also the creator of
- 26:56Speaker 14: the 1619 Project, rife with all of its inaccuracies and
- 27:01Speaker 14: historical biases and all the things that has been disseminated
- 27:04Speaker 14: into public schools across this country, making people not as
- 27:08Speaker 14: smart as a result. She asks herself, in fighting for
- 27:11Speaker 14: every black child, did I betray my own? Because her
- 27:14Speaker 14: child at around 14 realizes, hey, mom, Did you know
- 27:18Speaker 14: that my school was bad when you put me in it?
- 27:21Speaker 5: And she has to answer, yes, I did.
- 27:25Speaker 14: And that wasn't the first red flag. In fourth grade,
- 27:28Speaker 14: she had gotten word from the teachers that her child
- 27:31Speaker 14: was slipping and that her reading wasn't up to snuff,
- 27:34Speaker 14: nor was her writing. So she starts asking for information
- 27:37Speaker 14: and she finally gets it. It's like pulling teeth from
- 27:40Speaker 14: the administrators who won't help her out. And she sees
- 27:42Speaker 14: that none of this work has been graded and that
- 27:44Speaker 14: she's not being corrected on her math. And in fact,
- 27:46Speaker 14: she doesn't know how to do a lot of the
- 27:48Speaker 14: things that the school has been telling her that she
- 27:51Speaker 14: knows how to do. And I just, I went to
- 27:56Speaker 14: predominantly black schools, like 90% black schools. My parents sent
- 28:00Speaker 14: me there because there was no other choice. We couldn't
- 28:02Speaker 14: afford private school.
- 28:04Speaker 5: It was where I lived.
- 28:05Speaker 14: And in doing so, they understood, as Nicole Hannah-Jones definitely
- 28:09Speaker 14: should have, that they were going to have to supplement.
- 28:13Speaker 5: And they did.
- 28:14Speaker 14: And they paid aggressive attention to what I was doing
- 28:16Speaker 14: and what I was getting out of it. Nicole Hannah-Jones
- 28:20Speaker 14: didn't do that. She failed her child on several levels
- 28:23Speaker 14: because she did have the resources to send herself somewhere else.
- 28:26Speaker 14: And even within public schools in New York City, she
- 28:29Speaker 14: could have gone to a more selective school, which is
- 28:30Speaker 14: where she is now. And this is how it ends
- 28:33Speaker 14: because Nicole Hannah-Jones, in the greatest act of hypocrisy, her
- 28:38Speaker 14: entire career has been devoted to destroying the type of
- 28:41Speaker 14: schools that her child is now attending to get the
- 28:45Speaker 14: things she needs, and the whole thing is, like, tailor-made
- 28:49Speaker 14: to make my brain explode.
- 28:52Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of expected a meltdown, and, well, you
- 28:56Speaker 3: delivered like Chernobyl.
- 28:58Speaker 2: It was amazing.
- 29:00Speaker 3: Mary Catherine Hamm, I, you know, at some point I
- 29:05Speaker 3: want to shout, stop.
- 29:07Speaker 2: Stop.
- 29:08Speaker 3: To liberal women everywhere until we find out what the
- 29:11Speaker 3: hell is going on. We've got Hannah Nicole Jones or
- 29:14Speaker 3: Nicole Hannah Jones essentially sacrificing her daughter on the altar
- 29:20Speaker 3: of wokeness. We have women explaining that not only is
- 29:25Speaker 3: Lindsay Clancy to be pitied, but how dare her husband
- 29:28Speaker 3: divorce her after she murdered their three kids. And, of course,
- 29:33Speaker 3: we have the Munchausen mommies who want to carve up
- 29:36Speaker 3: their kids to cater to their gender delusions. i don't
- 29:40Speaker 3: see this with conservative women i mean you know i
- 29:43Speaker 3: i'm married to one uh she's also cuban so she's
- 29:46Speaker 3: got a little extra latin uh common sense going but
- 29:51Speaker 3: where did they get the how did they become so
- 29:53Speaker 3: morally inverted.
- 29:56Speaker 14: I mean, honestly, I think you see some of this
- 29:58Speaker 14: in the polling about people's relative happiness, that religious conservative
- 30:03Speaker 14: married women who have children end up being among the
- 30:07Speaker 14: most contented in their lives. And I think a lot
- 30:10Speaker 14: of this is a reaction to feeling discontented and finding
- 30:13Speaker 14: new ways to replace religion, to replace the other things
- 30:16Speaker 14: that you haven't put into your life that would be
- 30:19Speaker 14: healthier ways to live.
- 30:21Speaker 5: Your life out. But like the, like, I think the
- 30:23Speaker 5: view is actually very symbolic of this.
- 30:24Speaker 14: Cause this week we've seen, uh, not only, uh, one
- 30:28Speaker 14: host say, you know, why would Patrick Clancy divorce this woman? When,
- 30:31Speaker 14: by the way, she would sit next to a celebrity
- 30:34Speaker 14: who said, well, I left my husband because he chewed
- 30:36Speaker 14: too loud.
- 30:36Speaker 5: And she'd be like, girl, you got to grow. I understand.
- 30:39Speaker 14: Right. But in this case, she's going to make excuses.
- 30:42Speaker 14: Then Sonny Hostin is on the same show, or at
- 30:44Speaker 14: least the same week saying, uh, that she was the
- 30:47Speaker 14: holdout juror for a cannibalistic murderer, uh, In a New
- 30:51Speaker 14: York City case where they let the guy off on
- 30:54Speaker 14: an insanity plea.
- 30:56Speaker 5: And I'm just like, this is.
- 30:58Speaker 14: Like daytime women's talk TV. This is a bad symbol.
- 31:05Speaker 2: It's bizarre.
- 31:07Speaker 3: And, you know, here's the thing about Nicole Hannah-Jones, right?
- 31:11Speaker 3: She's carrying the ball down the field. You think she's
- 31:13Speaker 3: going to get in the end zone, right? She has
- 31:15Speaker 3: seen the error of her ways. And, you know, with
- 31:18Speaker 3: 10 yards to go, she just kind of stops and
- 31:21Speaker 3: doesn't make that last leap between the Democrat Union woke
- 31:26Speaker 3: alliance of failure in the inner city schools.
- 31:30Speaker 2: She just can't do it.
- 31:32Speaker 3: So she'll she'll take her kid out and leave millions
- 31:35Speaker 3: of other kids.
- 31:38Speaker 2: To their fate.
- 31:39Speaker 14: Well. With apologies to the Wolfpack, it's worse than that
- 31:42Speaker 14: because it was like the quarterback of that NC State
- 31:44Speaker 14: game where he was in the end zone and should
- 31:45Speaker 14: have won if he had just taken a knee. Like
- 31:47Speaker 14: she's losing here. And the reason she's losing is because
- 31:50Speaker 14: she can't confront that those are the culprits. It's like
- 31:54Speaker 14: she was mugged by reality, but she still can't ID
- 31:57Speaker 14: the dude who did it. And it's like, because the
- 31:59Speaker 14: person who did it is the teachers unions, her own
- 32:02Speaker 14: ideology to some extent. The very ideas that she has
- 32:06Speaker 14: pushed for systematically and been very good at pushing have
- 32:11Speaker 14: made the systems worse because in fact there is a
- 32:14Speaker 14: model there's a principle in this story that she confronts
- 32:17Speaker 14: who's a well-meaning person who says basically there's there's no
- 32:20Speaker 14: way to do this there's no model for it with
- 32:23Speaker 14: minority children and that's first of all seems sort of
- 32:26Speaker 14: uh like bigotry second of all there's a model in
- 32:30Speaker 14: mississippi yes there's Schools that have a concentration of minority
- 32:38Speaker 14: students that are far higher sometimes than the ones in
- 32:40Speaker 14: New York City and pay 10,000 to 14,000 per year
- 32:44Speaker 14: per student instead of 53K are able to allow students
- 32:49Speaker 14: to progress.
- 32:50Speaker 5: And that is a beautiful thing.
- 32:52Speaker 14: And Blue America needs to get attuned to it and
- 32:54Speaker 14: stop listening to Nicole Hannah-Jones, who doesn't have the expertise
- 32:58Speaker 14: for this.
- 32:58Speaker 3: But see, as with so much in Blue America, it
- 33:01Speaker 3: isn't so much The results of the policy that matter,
- 33:05Speaker 3: but the power and prestige that come from being in
- 33:10Speaker 3: control that matters. They don't care about the little black kids. Look,
- 33:16Speaker 3: I live in the South Bay of Los Angeles. I
- 33:18Speaker 3: live by the beach and my high school and my
- 33:21Speaker 3: junior high schools. You know, the Chardonnay wine women with
- 33:26Speaker 3: the Aidens and the Cadens are not going to allow
- 33:30Speaker 3: the schools to fail.
- 33:32Speaker 2: They are they terrorize.
- 33:34Speaker 3: The principal and all the kids end up going to
- 33:36Speaker 3: really nice colleges.
- 33:38Speaker 2: You go five miles to the east.
- 33:39Speaker 3: You cross that overpass under the 405 and you are
- 33:43Speaker 3: in L.A.
- 33:44Speaker 2: U.S.D. territory. And it is all failure.
- 33:46Speaker 3: And these Democrats who care so much are condemning a
- 33:50Speaker 3: generation of young black and Latino kids to failure.
- 33:55Speaker 2: And it is appalling. And they will lecture us about morality.
- 34:00Speaker 14: No, it's like She doesn't mention teachers unions. She also
- 34:04Speaker 14: doesn't mention COVID policies. The teachers unions, together with these
- 34:09Speaker 14: school boards in these liberal areas, did one of the
- 34:11Speaker 14: greatest disservices to children and the greatest disservice to public
- 34:16Speaker 14: schools and trust in them in my entire life's living.
- 34:21Speaker 5: Memory, frankly.
- 34:22Speaker 14: And she says nothing about that because, again, those people
- 34:26Speaker 14: are allied with her.
- 34:28Speaker 5: And so, yes, what she wanted.
- 34:30Speaker 14: To sort of do was import some of the wine
- 34:33Speaker 14: mom terrorizing of the school board into these other schools.
- 34:38Speaker 14: And it didn't work because I think she thought just
- 34:41Speaker 14: like her magical appearance.
- 34:43Speaker 5: Was going to do it. And that didn't do it.
- 34:44Speaker 14: And I think the fact that these schools were resistant
- 34:48Speaker 14: to any influence from her, despite the fact that she
- 34:51Speaker 14: was a New York Times reporter, is evidence of how
- 34:53Speaker 14: insulated they are, thanks to their ideology and thanks to
- 34:57Speaker 14: the teachers unions themselves.
- 34:58Speaker 5: For any accountability for any of this.
- 35:00Speaker 14: They're not flinching because they know Nicole Hannah-Jones in the
- 35:03Speaker 14: New York Times is going to let them off the hook,
- 35:05Speaker 14: and she mostly did.
- 35:07Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure somehow it's conservative Republican white supremacists from
- 35:14Speaker 3: flyover states that are at fault for the total failure.
- 35:18Speaker 5: Oh, that's basically the conclusion, yeah.
- 35:19Speaker 3: Yeah, the total failure of her ideology and her parenting.
- 35:22Speaker 3: Mary Catherine Hand, Host of Getting Hammered podcast, which I
- 35:27Speaker 3: listen to every week. Thanks for joining us on The
- 35:30Speaker 3: Hugh Hewitt Show. I'm guest host Kurt Schlichter. We'll be
- 35:33Speaker 3: right back with Jim Tallent. Welcome back to The Hugh
- 35:39Speaker 3: Hewitt Show. I'm guest host Kurt Schlichter. And, of course,
- 35:42Speaker 3: that social distortion with Adam Baum. I couldn't think of
- 35:45Speaker 3: a better song to welcome our next guest, Senator Jim Tallent.
- 35:50Speaker 3: who is a perpetual guest here at the Hugh Hewitt Show.
- 35:54Speaker 2: Senator Talent, welcome. It's great to see you.
- 35:58Speaker 9: Well, thank you.
- 35:59Speaker 15: And I'm glad to be introduced with what is obviously
- 36:02Speaker 15: one of your favorite songs.
- 36:03Speaker 9: So I'll take that as a great compliment.
- 36:07Speaker 3: Orange County's loud, fast heroes.
- 36:11Speaker 2: Social D.
- 36:12Speaker 3: Anyway, thank Well, first of all, Senator Tal, let's talk
- 36:15Speaker 3: about what Pete Hegseth did yesterday. You and I had
- 36:18Speaker 3: a chance to just kick it around offline a little bit.
- 36:21Speaker 3: But what Secretary of War Hegseth did was impose a
- 36:26Speaker 3: new requirement for those wanting to become flag officers, that
- 36:28Speaker 3: is generals or admirals, which is a test, essentially, a
- 36:34Speaker 3: series of challenges to see if they can actually.
- 36:37Speaker 2: Lead troops in battle.
- 36:41Speaker 3: The multi-domain battle space that war is today. It's not
- 36:47Speaker 3: just the ground and you fight over it. I mean,
- 36:50Speaker 3: you've got cyber, you've got Internet, you've got space, you've
- 36:53Speaker 3: got air, you've got sea. It's really incredible, and it
- 36:58Speaker 3: will take a special kind of leader. What do you
- 37:00Speaker 3: think of Secretary Warheg's initiative?
- 37:06Speaker 15: Well, I not only support everything he's been doing on
- 37:08Speaker 15: the personnel front, I think it may be the most
- 37:11Speaker 15: essential thing that he is doing. And he's lifting standards
- 37:15Speaker 15: across all ranks, as you know, Kurt, and emphasizing warfighting ability,
- 37:21Speaker 15: which is obviously extremely important for everybody. It's one area
- 37:24Speaker 15: where we have a huge lead on the Chinese. I
- 37:27Speaker 15: don't want to necessarily go down that rabbit hole, but
- 37:29Speaker 15: they know it, Kurt. They know that they are very
- 37:32Speaker 15: concerned about the ability of the PLA to operate in
- 37:35Speaker 15: a joint fight, operate jointly in a fight against the Americans.
- 37:39Speaker 15: So we've got to lead, we need to continue it.
- 37:43Speaker 9: And that's important.
- 37:44Speaker 15: I listened to the interview you did with Matt, I
- 37:46Speaker 15: think it was Matt Continenti, but it was very good.
- 37:49Speaker 9: I think it's important not only for.
- 37:54Speaker 15: The officers in the COCOMs, you know, who are actually
- 37:56Speaker 15: in the chain of command there, but also for the
- 38:00Speaker 15: uniforms that are doing acquisition. Because if you can't think
- 38:03Speaker 15: like a warfighter, If you can't keep those concept of
- 38:08Speaker 15: operations and war plans in mind, you don't know what
- 38:11Speaker 15: capabilities you need on the platforms that you're acquiring. And so, yeah,
- 38:17Speaker 15: I think it's long overdue and well needed, as are
- 38:22Speaker 15: all the personnel reforms that he's engineering.
- 38:26Speaker 3: Well, look, I have been saying for a long time,
- 38:29Speaker 3: and I worked for the Pentagon for a short time
- 38:32Speaker 3: studying the war colleges, seeing how we could improve them.
- 38:35Speaker 3: The Secretary of War may or may not take our
- 38:37Speaker 3: recommendations and release them publicly.
- 38:40Speaker 2: I won't talk about them before then.
- 38:41Speaker 3: But I have always been of the opinion that the
- 38:46Speaker 3: biggest challenge coming into this administration was not acquisitions. It
- 38:50Speaker 3: was not developing strategy. It was not developing new equipment.
- 38:55Speaker 3: It was restoring a military culture. And I thought that
- 39:01Speaker 3: Pete Hegseth getting down and knocking out push-ups with the infantry,
- 39:06Speaker 3: you know, is a guy who led these soldiers. And
- 39:10Speaker 3: I know you've been very, very involved with the military
- 39:13Speaker 3: for a long time. I just thought this was the
- 39:17Speaker 3: most important thing he could do. And it's bizarre to
- 39:20Speaker 3: me that people who damn well should know better, like
- 39:23Speaker 3: Mark Kelly– are down on him for reemphasizing basics.
- 39:30Speaker 9: Yeah, well, a lot of that, of course, is politics.
- 39:34Speaker 9: And I'm not a veteran. You're right.
- 39:36Speaker 15: I've been involved with the department since 1993 in different
- 39:42Speaker 15: capacities when I went into the House. I don't know
- 39:45Speaker 15: what it's like to have served, but I do know.
- 39:49Speaker 15: that we need very high standards. We need to expect
- 39:51Speaker 15: everybody to live up to them. And what he's doing
- 39:54Speaker 15: in getting DEI out of the department is absolutely essential.
- 39:59Speaker 15: I mean, it's a toxic philosophy everywhere. You know, look
- 40:02Speaker 15: at everybody through the prism of race and these various
- 40:06Speaker 15: identity markers. But the worst place to try and do
- 40:09Speaker 15: it is in.
- 40:10Speaker 9: The Department of War.
- 40:12Speaker 15: And I You know more about this than I do,
- 40:15Speaker 15: but I know that when you're a serviceman or woman
- 40:18Speaker 15: and you're looking at the guy or gal next to you,
- 40:21Speaker 15: you need to see a comrade in arms. You need
- 40:24Speaker 15: to see somebody who is out to perform the mission
- 40:27Speaker 15: as part of a team, or you just need to
- 40:30Speaker 15: see an individual, you know, a buddy, somebody you can,
- 40:34Speaker 15: you know, go on leave with or something. You do
- 40:36Speaker 15: not need to be looking at them through some intersectional
- 40:40Speaker 15: stack you know, based on race or ethnicity or this
- 40:43Speaker 15: sort of thing. So I'm really pleased that he's doing that.
- 40:48Speaker 15: And as far as morale is concerned, all you got
- 40:50Speaker 15: to do is look at the recruiting and retention numbers.
- 40:52Speaker 9: I mean, you know, the proof's in the pudding, Kurt.
- 40:55Speaker 15: We're recruiting people, we're keeping people, and that's because they
- 40:58Speaker 15: like the changes that the Secretary is making. I will
- 41:03Speaker 15: have to tell you, rebuilding the military industrial base, getting
- 41:10Speaker 15: acquisition in order That's equally as important. But the personnel
- 41:15Speaker 15: changes are vital.
- 41:18Speaker 3: Boy, there are so many topics I could talk to
- 41:21Speaker 3: you about today. And I want to briefly touch on
- 41:25Speaker 3: President Xi.
- 41:26Speaker 9: Pick some I know something about, will you? I mean,
- 41:28Speaker 9: Dwayne doesn't always do that on the pod.
- 41:31Speaker 3: Well, look, Xi is here meeting with Donald Trump today.
- 41:36Speaker 3: CNN has informed its eager readers that Xi is coming
- 41:40Speaker 3: in with a lot of swagger because he's really, you know,
- 41:43Speaker 3: he's in control. He's the man, and Donald Trump's going
- 41:48Speaker 3: to have to be a supplicant. I don't quite see
- 41:50Speaker 3: it that way. How do you see it?
- 41:53Speaker 9: No, definitely the president's not a supplicant.
- 41:57Speaker 15: Well, I think the purpose, we have to look at
- 41:59Speaker 15: this visit in the context of the overall relationship between
- 42:04Speaker 15: the two countries. I think the object of the visit, Kurt,
- 42:07Speaker 15: is really the visit. I think both sides here, I
- 42:11Speaker 15: think both Xi and the president, want things, want the
- 42:17Speaker 15: relationship between the United States and China to stay stable,
- 42:21Speaker 15: at least for the time being. Now, I think they
- 42:23Speaker 15: want it for different reasons. I think the president wants it.
- 42:26Speaker 15: because he knows we're getting stronger vis-a-vis China, because he's
- 42:30Speaker 15: rebuilding the tools of power that we just talked about,
- 42:32Speaker 15: including the military tools on the energy front, everything that
- 42:36Speaker 15: we're doing and rebuilding the manufacturing base, critical minerals, which,
- 42:41Speaker 15: as you know, is probably our key vulnerability regarding China.
- 42:44Speaker 15: And the president wants to get stronger in all these areas,
- 42:49Speaker 15: you know, before doing anything that significantly increases tensions. He's
- 42:54Speaker 15: not going to let them push us around But he's
- 42:57Speaker 15: not looking for a confrontation with China.
- 42:59Speaker 9: Now, on the other hand, Xi, I.
- 43:01Speaker 15: Think, wants stability because he's been backfooted by what the
- 43:06Speaker 15: president's done on trade. He's dealing with a property sector,
- 43:10Speaker 15: which is where they have invested hundreds of billions of
- 43:13Speaker 15: dollars that, as you know, is collapsing.
- 43:16Speaker 9: He's dealing with.
- 43:17Speaker 15: Energy supply chains that are extremely unstable. I mean, what's
- 43:21Speaker 15: happening in the Middle East is not good news for China.
- 43:25Speaker 15: And he's also dealing, I mean, he's been purging everybody
- 43:29Speaker 15: in the PLA. I mean, I don't know that he's
- 43:31Speaker 15: got any uniformed officers left on the Central Military Commission.
- 43:36Speaker 15: So he doesn't want an increase in tension right now either.
- 43:40Speaker 15: And I think that's what they're going to project in
- 43:43Speaker 15: this meeting. You're not going to see any big agreements.
- 43:46Speaker 15: They'll talk about AI. They'll talk about trade. But I
- 43:49Speaker 15: think right now we're rebuilding the tools of power, dealing
- 43:52Speaker 15: with the Western hemispheric threats effectively. And I think the
- 43:56Speaker 15: president will get to China maybe with some more initiatives later.
- 44:00Speaker 3: Well, Senator Jim Tallent, it is always a pleasure to
- 44:03Speaker 3: talk to you.
- 44:04Speaker 2: I wish we could talk more.
- 44:05Speaker 3: I couldn't ask you about the midterms. Oh, well, we'll
- 44:08Speaker 3: get to that. Maybe next time I guest host. I'm
- 44:10Speaker 3: Kurt Schlichter. This is The Hugh Hewitt Show.
- 44:13Speaker 2: Stick around for more. Silver wings.
- 44:19Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Hugh Hewitt Show. I'm guest host
- 44:22Speaker 3: Kurt Schlichter, retired United States Army colonel, five jump chump.
- 44:27Speaker 2: Yeah, I had silver wings on my chest.
- 44:29Speaker 3: My next guest had wings too. He's Pennsylvania Senator Dave McCormick.
- 44:34Speaker 3: You can follow him at senmccormick.pa. Senator McCormick, how many
- 44:41Speaker 3: jumps do you have?
- 44:42Speaker 2: Because you were in the 82nd, right?
- 44:45Speaker 10: Yeah, I probably have, I don't know, 50 or 60.
- 44:47Speaker 10: I was a jump master. So I, uh, I had
- 44:50Speaker 10: a few, most of them at night.
- 44:53Speaker 2: Nice. Uh, a lot of people don't know that you
- 44:55Speaker 2: can go to airborne school.
- 44:56Speaker 3: You can get five jumps and you can wear the
- 44:58Speaker 3: wings forever and use them to pick up chicks. But
- 45:01Speaker 3: I know that from personal experience. So that's, uh, that was,
- 45:06Speaker 3: that was, that was my style. Look, we're both, uh, uh,
- 45:10Speaker 3: Pennsylvania guys. My family came from, uh, Pennsylvania, of course, uh,
- 45:14Speaker 3: My parents' family, mom's family lived in Bloomsburg, where you're from.
- 45:19Speaker 2: You've developed kind of a unique style.
- 45:21Speaker 3: As a senator from Pennsylvania, kind of cut yourself your
- 45:26Speaker 3: own kind of pattern.
- 45:27Speaker 2: Tell us a little about that. How are you different
- 45:30Speaker 2: than other senators?
- 45:33Speaker 10: Well, first, let me start with it's great to be
- 45:36Speaker 10: with you. And it's a real privilege to be in
- 45:39Speaker 10: the Senate. I ran for this job twice, lost the
- 45:42Speaker 10: first time by 900 votes and won the second time
- 45:45Speaker 10: by 15,000 out of 7 million. And I like to
- 45:49Speaker 10: say that I'm the 54th elected senator in Pennsylvania's history.
- 45:54Speaker 10: I'm the ninth senator in the history of the country
- 45:56Speaker 10: from West Point. But I have a title that Dina
- 45:59Speaker 10: and our six girls would never have dreamed possible, which
- 46:01Speaker 10: is the best dressed senator from Pennsylvania. Because my buddy
- 46:07Speaker 10: John Fetterman would even agree with that. But, you know, listen,
- 46:11Speaker 10: I think about this as a business person. people elected
- 46:15Speaker 10: me to come to Washington to try to make change happen.
- 46:19Speaker 10: As a business person, you can do that through legislation,
- 46:22Speaker 10: which I've tried to be a leader on, but you
- 46:25Speaker 10: can also do it by using the platform to have
- 46:28Speaker 10: like the Energy and Innovation Summit with the president, bring investment,
- 46:31Speaker 10: bring jobs, the Defense Innovation Summit that the president did
- 46:34Speaker 10: with us in July, where we had all the defense CEOs.
- 46:37Speaker 10: So it's about making good things happen. It's about the results.
- 46:41Speaker 10: And as a business person, you know, I'm a strong conservative.
- 46:44Speaker 10: I've got a very strong conservative voting record. But you
- 46:48Speaker 10: got to work with whoever you need to work with
- 46:51Speaker 10: to get things done. And so I'm proud of the
- 46:53Speaker 10: fact that we can get a lot of things done.
- 46:55Speaker 10: And I think that's honestly what the people of Pennsylvania expect.
- 46:58Speaker 10: They they want to see you get things done.
- 47:01Speaker 3: Well, look, you've got a great relationship with Senator Fetterman,
- 47:04Speaker 3: who is a Democrat. I don't agree with a lot
- 47:06Speaker 3: of things he says, but a lot of things he
- 47:07Speaker 3: does seem to show a lot of common sense. Now,
- 47:11Speaker 3: we're told by all the smart people that the Republicans
- 47:15Speaker 3: are going to lose this Senate.
- 47:17Speaker 12: We're doomed.
- 47:17Speaker 2: We're done. We're finished. That it may, you know, the
- 47:21Speaker 2: Democrats may get, I don't know, one vote majority. I
- 47:24Speaker 2: don't know.
- 47:24Speaker 3: If that happens, you think you could talk your your
- 47:27Speaker 3: pal John into into coming over to the winning team?
- 47:32Speaker 10: Well, part of the friendship with him and I think
- 47:36Speaker 10: the trust he has is I never try to twist
- 47:38Speaker 10: his arm to do anything or I want him to
- 47:41Speaker 10: do what's right for him. But we honestly, so I
- 47:44Speaker 10: don't know what he's going to do. Then that's really truthful.
- 47:48Speaker 10: But we look for things to work on together. So
- 47:50Speaker 10: whether it's the flow of fentanyl or whether it's fracking
- 47:53Speaker 10: or steel manufacturing, steel making in Pennsylvania, whether it's the
- 47:58Speaker 10: fight against anti-Semitism, we have found ways to work together.
- 48:01Speaker 10: So that's been the strength of the relationship. And I think,
- 48:07Speaker 10: you know, I think people appreciate that and respect it.
- 48:10Speaker 10: In terms of the midterms, you know, I think, I
- 48:14Speaker 10: don't pay any attention to pollsters. They had me down
- 48:18Speaker 10: by 10 in all the polls 60 days before the election.
- 48:23Speaker 10: And you and I both know that it's all about closing,
- 48:28Speaker 10: It's all about I was a wrestler in college, and
- 48:30Speaker 10: I would always say, listen, if I can be within
- 48:32Speaker 10: a point or two in the third period, I'm going
- 48:35Speaker 10: to win because the third period is about intensity. It's
- 48:37Speaker 10: about focus. It's about resilience. And that's what we have
- 48:41Speaker 10: to do as Republicans. And there's two things that I
- 48:44Speaker 10: think we have to our advantage.
- 48:46Speaker 2: We have a lot to be proud of.
- 48:49Speaker 10: The president, with the majorities in the House and the Senate,
- 48:53Speaker 10: have secured the border, stopped the flow of illegal immigrants.
- 48:56Speaker 10: Fentanyl deaths are down by 60 percent in Pennsylvania year
- 49:00Speaker 10: over year from the Biden administration to Trump. Lowest crime rate,
- 49:05Speaker 10: violent crime in decades. Lowest poverty rate in decades. Energy
- 49:10Speaker 10: dominance that is benefiting Pennsylvanians. And Pennsylvanians and Americans have
- 49:16Speaker 10: more money in their pocket. And that's not to say
- 49:18Speaker 10: gas prices aren't too high.
- 49:19Speaker 16: They are.
- 49:20Speaker 10: It's not to say we don't need to bring down
- 49:22Speaker 10: housing prices.
- 49:23Speaker 2: We do.
- 49:23Speaker 10: So it's not to say we don't have work to do,
- 49:25Speaker 10: but we have a record of accomplishment to run on.
- 49:28Speaker 10: That's to our advantage. We just have to tell that
- 49:30Speaker 10: story and we got to be unapologetic and go out
- 49:33Speaker 10: there and be on offense.
- 49:35Speaker 2: Second, We're running against a bunch of lunatics.
- 49:39Speaker 10: And we have an ascendance in the Democratic Party of
- 49:43Speaker 10: an extreme left that's anti-military, anti-law enforcement, anti-business, anti-Semitic, anti-American.
- 49:50Speaker 10: And this isn't some political talking point. Listen to these
- 49:54Speaker 10: people on the stump, Al-Sayed, Graham Platner, these candidates, previously
- 49:59Speaker 10: Graham Platner, who are talking about things that are truly anti-American.
- 50:03Speaker 10: So we need to make sure people understand what we've
- 50:05Speaker 10: done and what we'll continue to do. Let the president
- 50:07Speaker 10: have the majority he needs to finish the job and
- 50:10Speaker 10: also make sure that the alternative is clear. You and I,
- 50:13Speaker 10: when we were in the military against the Soviet Union,
- 50:16Speaker 10: we never dreamed that we would have to stand in
- 50:19Speaker 10: front of a bunch of young kids in 2026 and
- 50:22Speaker 10: describe to them why communism or socialism was bad for America.
- 50:26Speaker 2: But that's where we are.
- 50:29Speaker 3: Well, Senator McCormick, there was a big Senate meeting today
- 50:33Speaker 3: with pollsters that some of the pollsters said, hey, it's
- 50:36Speaker 3: looking pretty rough.
- 50:38Speaker 2: Was there a meeting today? Are things looking rough? And
- 50:41Speaker 2: how do you feel about how we're going to do
- 50:43Speaker 2: in 41 days? I was there.
- 50:45Speaker 10: I was there.
- 50:45Speaker 2: Listen, I was at that meeting.
- 50:48Speaker 10: I'd start by saying, you know, Mike Huckabee came on
- 50:50Speaker 10: the campaign trail with me and he said there's only
- 50:52Speaker 10: two ways to run, unopposed or paranoid. And so we
- 50:56Speaker 10: need to be paranoid as hell. And we need to
- 51:00Speaker 10: fight in every campaign and make sure that message is clear.
- 51:04Speaker 10: We need to have adequate resources to do it. We've
- 51:06Speaker 10: got a lot of great candidates. We need to get
- 51:08Speaker 10: behind those great candidates. So we need to be paranoid.
- 51:11Speaker 10: And historically speaking, as you know, when the party is
- 51:16Speaker 10: in the White House and in the majority, the midterms
- 51:18Speaker 10: are always tough from a historical, because everybody's running against
- 51:21Speaker 10: the people that have been in power. With that said,
- 51:25Speaker 10: the message from that meeting was not that.
- 51:28Speaker 2: The polling's looking worse.
- 51:30Speaker 10: It was that the polling's looking better and that a
- 51:32Speaker 10: lot of the polls in the media are not accurate.
- 51:34Speaker 10: It's not to say we don't have a hell of
- 51:36Speaker 10: a fight in front of us, but... But I like
- 51:38Speaker 10: where we are, and I think we can close in
- 51:39Speaker 10: these final days.
- 51:40Speaker 3: Well, as a fellow Army officer, we never back down.
- 51:43Speaker 3: We weren't trained to retreat. We don't know how to lose.
- 51:47Speaker 3: Senator Dave McCormick from the great state of Pennsylvania, home
- 51:50Speaker 3: of the Schlichter clan, thank you for joining us on
- 51:53Speaker 3: the Hugh Hewitt Show.
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- 54:43Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Hugh Hewitt Show.
- 54:46Speaker 3: This is Kurt Schlichter singing for Hugh Hewitt. And I'm
- 54:49Speaker 3: very pleased... to welcome back to the show, once again,
- 54:53Speaker 3: the Republican candidate for the United States Senate in Georgia,
- 54:57Speaker 3: the guy taking on John Ossoff, the devil who's down
- 55:01Speaker 3: in Georgia.
- 55:02Speaker 2: It's Mike Collins. Mike, welcome to the show.
- 55:05Speaker 11: Appreciate you having me, Colonel.
- 55:07Speaker 9: Good to be on.
- 55:08Speaker 2: Look at you. You're in shirt sleeves. You're sitting in
- 55:12Speaker 2: the seat of a car. It looks hot as heck
- 55:14Speaker 2: out there. Look at that, right?
- 55:17Speaker 3: You're doing what needs to be done, and it's paying off,
- 55:20Speaker 3: isn't it? Your numbers are looking better and better, even
- 55:23Speaker 3: though the mainstream media has written you off.
- 55:26Speaker 11: Yeah, you know it is, and that's okay.
- 55:28Speaker 17: But what people don't realize is we never ran any
- 55:30Speaker 17: TV during the primary. The only time we ran TV
- 55:34Speaker 17: was like the last week of the runoff, and it
- 55:36Speaker 17: was only like one or two slots a night.
- 55:38Speaker 11: So we knew we were going to come out in
- 55:40Speaker 11: the hole. We did.
- 55:41Speaker 17: But as the cavalry came, and boy, have they showed
- 55:44Speaker 17: up in a big way. and had began to get
- 55:46Speaker 17: our message out. This thing went from 13 down to
- 55:49Speaker 17: nine to seven, past four.
- 55:51Speaker 11: This thing is in the margin of error.
- 55:54Speaker 17: John Ossoff has gone from 50.6 down to 48, and
- 55:58Speaker 17: he is continuing to slide. And it's because people see
- 56:01Speaker 17: this is the clearest race in the country with two
- 56:04Speaker 17: people that couldn't be more polar opposites than between me
- 56:07Speaker 17: and John Ossoff. The people of the state of Georgia
- 56:10Speaker 17: have a choice. You can either have a small businessman
- 56:13Speaker 17: that has gone to Washington and delivered in just two
- 56:15Speaker 17: short years, or you can keep the trust fund kid
- 56:19Speaker 17: who has never had a job in his life, who
- 56:21Speaker 17: actually wants men playing in girls' sports, who wants the
- 56:25Speaker 17: borders wide open, and voted for all that Biden inflation
- 56:29Speaker 17: debacle that has caused all the prices to go up.
- 56:32Speaker 3: Well, you know, what we hear is we hear those
- 56:35Speaker 3: formerly Republican counties surrounding Atlanta saying, I mean, those those
- 56:40Speaker 3: those wine women and those, you know, guys who've never
- 56:43Speaker 3: worked a day that never had to shower after a
- 56:46Speaker 3: day of work. They're they're not they're not going voting
- 56:50Speaker 3: for Republicans anymore.
- 56:52Speaker 8: Is that true?
- 56:54Speaker 15: No.
- 56:54Speaker 17: Well, I'm going to tell you, the fact of the
- 56:56Speaker 17: matter is that the people in Atlanta, Georgia, especially whether
- 57:00Speaker 17: you call them the suburban crowd, they just appreciate the
- 57:03Speaker 17: fact that I never quit fighting and went up there
- 57:05Speaker 17: and got something done. In particular, that Lake and Riley
- 57:08Speaker 17: Act in which John Ossoff and the Democrats let these
- 57:12Speaker 17: criminals just invade our country.
- 57:14Speaker 11: And one of them murdered a young lady in my district.
- 57:17Speaker 17: They know that I fought to make sure that their
- 57:19Speaker 17: kids and they would be safe. And that's why they're
- 57:22Speaker 17: attracted to our campaign. That's why they're latching on to
- 57:25Speaker 17: our campaign. The other fact of the matter is John
- 57:28Speaker 17: Ossoff is just using Georgia as a platform. This guy's
- 57:31Speaker 17: never voted in anything that resembles the people of Georgia
- 57:35Speaker 17: or our values. Because at the end of the day,
- 57:37Speaker 17: he is running to be the DSA candidate for president.
- 57:42Speaker 17: Anybody that joins up with that, Abdel Al Saeed, and
- 57:45Speaker 17: he did. He's supporting him and endorsing him. The guy
- 57:49Speaker 17: that his best buddy is, Hassan Piker, the one that
- 57:53Speaker 17: said that America deserved 9-11. Hassan Piker says that John
- 57:56Speaker 17: Ossoff is his dark horse pick for 2028.
- 57:59Speaker 11: America, let that sink in now.
- 58:02Speaker 17: If we don't get rid of him here in Georgia,
- 58:05Speaker 17: this is going to be a problem for the country.
- 58:08Speaker 17: You know, John Ossoff's the same guy that's been hauling
- 58:10Speaker 17: that Tallarico guy all over the country raising money.
- 58:13Speaker 11: He's building his little team. You know, Tallarico, the guy.
- 58:17Speaker 17: That claims that God is non-binary, and I don't know
- 58:20Speaker 17: how many genders he's up to, but this is John Ossoff.
- 58:25Speaker 3: Well, you know, I'm at my Texas house now, and
- 58:28Speaker 3: I'm in a liberal area, and there's a few Tallarico signs,
- 58:31Speaker 3: but I came across a Paxton sign yesterday. I think
- 58:34Speaker 3: the Republicans are starting to move, Mike Collins. I think
- 58:39Speaker 3: I'm feeling the Republicans are saying, you know, I'm not
- 58:42Speaker 3: happy about everything, the.
- 58:43Speaker 2: Way everything's going.
- 58:44Speaker 3: The Senate could have done a little more, but I'm
- 58:47Speaker 3: not going to let these lunatics run our country.
- 58:51Speaker 11: Oh, amen, brother.
- 58:52Speaker 9: Amen.
- 58:52Speaker 11: And that's why we're out here. I mean, I'm just
- 58:55Speaker 11: an old trucker.
- 58:56Speaker 17: I've been in the trucking business for 30 years, and
- 58:57Speaker 17: I believe in going and seeing my customers in person.
- 59:00Speaker 17: So we're not holed up in Atlanta, Georgia like John Ossoff,
- 59:03Speaker 17: who runs to his little podium and does a little
- 59:06Speaker 17: press conference.
- 59:07Speaker 11: I might hear five, six events a day.
- 59:10Speaker 17: I mean we're just making laps around this state like
- 59:12Speaker 17: oh ricky bobby man just making laps seeing people when
- 59:16Speaker 17: you start out monday morning in south georgia and you
- 59:20Speaker 17: walk into a room with a hundred vets and they
- 59:23Speaker 17: get it I mean, yes, Georgia is becoming one of
- 59:26Speaker 17: the most populated states, especially in the southeast for veterans
- 59:29Speaker 17: to call home. They understand what's going on. And we're
- 59:33Speaker 17: calling them to serve. Just one more time, help us
- 59:35Speaker 17: get this thing through. Because they fought to keep us
- 59:38Speaker 17: free and safe. And look at where we're going and
- 59:42Speaker 17: how close we are. The DSA makes up over 12%
- 59:45Speaker 17: of the Democrat Party right now.
- 59:47Speaker 11: They rule that party.
- 59:49Speaker 17: And if we don't stop the head... of the party,
- 59:52Speaker 17: John Ossoff, who voted over 90% of the time with
- 59:55Speaker 17: Bernie Sanders. He wants that mantle to be passed off
- 59:59Speaker 17: to him, and he's going to head this thing.
- 1:00:01Speaker 11: They get it.
- 1:00:02Speaker 17: And everybody that we met with around this state this
- 1:00:05Speaker 17: week and the ones that we've got lined up with
- 1:00:08Speaker 17: next week, it is amazing. We can feel it. Georgia,
- 1:00:12Speaker 17: I feel it. I feel you pushing. We're going to
- 1:00:15Speaker 17: stay out there. At the end of the day, I'm
- 1:00:17Speaker 17: going to win this race. But I need help. I do, Colonel.
- 1:00:20Speaker 17: I need some help out there. If folks could go
- 1:00:22Speaker 17: to MikeCollinsGA.com, help us out. I mean, chip in, 5, 10, 20.
- 1:00:27Speaker 17: It doesn't matter. Help us out so that we can
- 1:00:30Speaker 17: make sure that we don't turn John Ossoff into a
- 1:00:33Speaker 17: problem for the rest of this country.
- 1:00:36Speaker 3: Well, look, are you able to coordinate with a gubernatorial candidate?
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: I think it's Rick Jackson.
- 1:00:44Speaker 9: Are you guys working together?
- 1:00:45Speaker 11: Rick Jackson, sure we are.
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: Excellent. He's putting out some great ads, too.
- 1:00:49Speaker 11: He has.
- 1:00:50Speaker 17: And the neat thing about it is, you know, Rick
- 1:00:53Speaker 17: Jackson is your big business guy in the race. And
- 1:00:58Speaker 17: he's got his base of people. And then you've got me,
- 1:01:02Speaker 17: the small businessman. So it is a fantastic combination, especially
- 1:01:06Speaker 17: when you look at. And John Ossoff and Keisha Lance Rockbottoms.
- 1:01:11Speaker 11: They're running right together. I mean, they're holding hands on
- 1:01:13Speaker 11: this thing.
- 1:01:14Speaker 17: You've got the worst mayor in the history of this
- 1:01:17Speaker 17: state running for governor. and Keisha Lance Bottoms, and you've
- 1:01:21Speaker 17: got the worst U.S. senator ever served in the U.S. Senate,
- 1:01:25Speaker 17: John Ossoff, holding hands up there, and they're running against
- 1:01:29Speaker 17: two solid, successful business people that want to help move
- 1:01:33Speaker 17: this state forward. This is such a clear-cut choice. And
- 1:01:38Speaker 17: like I said, I just need people. Go to MikeCollinsGA.com
- 1:01:42Speaker 17: right now. Go there, check us out, look at our
- 1:01:45Speaker 17: voting records. When you look at my voting record versus
- 1:01:47Speaker 17: John Ossoff, It's night and day. And I guarantee you,
- 1:01:51Speaker 17: you'll side with me any day of the week over
- 1:01:54Speaker 17: John Ossoff. We just need help making sure that we
- 1:01:56Speaker 17: get people to understand it is time to go vote
- 1:01:59Speaker 17: on October the 13th. And if you can't make it
- 1:02:02Speaker 17: in that early vote, November the 3rd is the big day.
- 1:02:06Speaker 3: Now, Governor Kemp has recently endorsed you after a very
- 1:02:10Speaker 3: tough primary where you beat his preferred candidate. Is Governor
- 1:02:15Speaker 3: Kemp lending you the support of that machine he built
- 1:02:19Speaker 3: that was so effective in Georgia politics?
- 1:02:23Speaker 13: He is. He is.
- 1:02:24Speaker 17: And Governor Kemp and I have known each other for
- 1:02:26Speaker 17: a long time. And so, sure, he's offered everything he's got.
- 1:02:31Speaker 17: He'll be out there with us. As a matter of fact,
- 1:02:34Speaker 17: I'll see him tomorrow night at an event that he's
- 1:02:36Speaker 17: going to be there. He and the first lady as well.
- 1:02:39Speaker 17: So we're united in this race. Everybody sees what's at stake. And, folks,
- 1:02:46Speaker 17: I'm just telling you, there is a lot at stake here.
- 1:02:50Speaker 17: John Ossoff means it. When they open up a DSA
- 1:02:54Speaker 17: office in Atlanta, Georgia, you better believe they've got a.
- 1:02:57Speaker 11: Candidate, and that's John Ossoff. So if you can go
- 1:03:00Speaker 11: to MikeCollinsGA.com, help us out.
- 1:03:02Speaker 17: Help us make sure that we win this race so
- 1:03:05Speaker 17: that this doesn't become a problem for the whole country.
- 1:03:07Speaker 11: And that's John Ossoff.
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: God bless you, Mike Collins. Go get them.
- 1:03:13Speaker 11: Appreciate it.
- 1:03:14Speaker 3: I'm Kurt Schlichter. This is the Hugh Hewitt Show. Stick
- 1:03:17Speaker 3: around because we've got more to come. Welcome back to
- 1:03:23Speaker 3: the Hugh Hewitt Show.
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: I'm guest host Kurt Schlichter broadcasting to you live from Houston, Texas.
- 1:03:29Speaker 3: Fort Schlichter here. Love it in the Lone Star State.
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: And I thought we'd talk to another Lone Star State native,
- 1:03:38Speaker 3: Steve Toth. He's running in the second district of Texas
- 1:03:42Speaker 3: for Congress. Steve, tell me a little about yourself and
- 1:03:46Speaker 3: a little about your district.
- 1:03:49Speaker 16: I am a recovering Baptist pastor, which just means I
- 1:03:53Speaker 16: can have a beer in the front yard. I am
- 1:03:56Speaker 16: a small business owner and a member of the Texas House.
- 1:04:00Speaker 16: And we just came through a primary battle and won
- 1:04:05Speaker 16: by 15 points in a four-man race. And now it's
- 1:04:09Speaker 16: on to the general election against a Democrat Socialist. that
- 1:04:13Speaker 16: is trying to pass himself off as a moderate.
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: Go figure, Kurt. There's a lot of that going on.
- 1:04:21Speaker 6: There really is, right?
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Steve, tell me where.
- 1:04:24Speaker 3: Your district is because I think my in-laws live up there.
- 1:04:26Speaker 3: I live down in the Heights, so it's a pinko
- 1:04:30Speaker 3: palace down here. There's Tallarico signs and communists everywhere.
- 1:04:35Speaker 6: And who knows what.
- 1:04:37Speaker 5: I was down there, Steve.
- 1:04:38Speaker 2: What towns are you covering?
- 1:04:40Speaker 16: I'm the Woodlands, basically the Woodlands in Kingwood, Atascosita, over
- 1:04:46Speaker 16: towards Tomball.
- 1:04:47Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:04:48Speaker 16: And so, yeah, we're North Houston, if you will, up
- 1:04:51Speaker 16: in Montgomery County and Harris County.
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: So you're just like normal people.
- 1:04:57Speaker 6: We are normal people.
- 1:04:58Speaker 16: We, I'm like, Kurt, if you were to ask me
- 1:05:00Speaker 16: what my favorite drag queen is, you know, most people
- 1:05:04Speaker 16: up here don't even know what a drag queen is.
- 1:05:06Speaker 6: I couldn't, I could not name.
- 1:05:07Speaker 16: I've got a friend, I've got a couple of gay
- 1:05:09Speaker 16: friends that couldn't name what a drag queen, know the
- 1:05:12Speaker 16: name of a drag queen.
- 1:05:14Speaker 6: I mean, it's just like, what a freak.
- 1:05:17Speaker 3: Look, look, I exactly that's why I had Rick James
- 1:05:20Speaker 3: is his bumper music. Look, I I am a California
- 1:05:23Speaker 3: expatriate about half the time I'm living in L.A., half
- 1:05:26Speaker 3: the time I'm living here.
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: So I don't pretend to know. But here's what I think.
- 1:05:30Speaker 3: I don't see any Tallarico signs outside of the liberal hotbeds.
- 1:05:34Speaker 3: I don't see people excited about my see Republicans a
- 1:05:39Speaker 3: little down, but they don't know a lot about this
- 1:05:42Speaker 3: guy yet. They just got a sense they shouldn't be
- 1:05:44Speaker 3: within a thousand feet of a school. So do you
- 1:05:47Speaker 3: think Tallarico is going to win?
- 1:05:51Speaker 6: No, I do not. I served with him for 10
- 1:05:53Speaker 6: years in the Texas house.
- 1:05:55Speaker 16: This is the, you know, like this is the biggest
- 1:05:58Speaker 16: makeover I have ever seen. Talk about somebody remaking themselves.
- 1:06:02Speaker 16: When he came into the Texas house in 2019, he
- 1:06:06Speaker 16: was this nasty, bitter, angry little man. And he's always
- 1:06:10Speaker 16: been this nasty, angry, bitter little man. Then all of
- 1:06:13Speaker 16: a sudden, when he comes into session this year, all
- 1:06:17Speaker 16: of a sudden now he's pastor James Tallarico and he's
- 1:06:20Speaker 16: just this kind, sweet, lovable fuzzball.
- 1:06:23Speaker 6: And, um, no, I'm not, I'm just not buying it.
- 1:06:26Speaker 16: This is, this is a guy whose main objective is
- 1:06:29Speaker 16: the transitioning of children and he'll lie all he wants
- 1:06:33Speaker 16: to and say that he's not for it, but vote
- 1:06:36Speaker 16: after vote after vote, he has supported it. I, you know,
- 1:06:40Speaker 16: I had heard, I had a bill this past year, uh,
- 1:06:45Speaker 16: We did it in special session.
- 1:06:48Speaker 6: And what it did was it.
- 1:06:49Speaker 16: Barred teachers in our public schools from transitioning children without
- 1:06:55Speaker 16: mom and dad knowing about it.
- 1:06:57Speaker 6: He voted against that amendment. It became law.
- 1:07:00Speaker 16: We became the first state in the United States to
- 1:07:03Speaker 16: ban the social transition of children in our Texas classrooms.
- 1:07:06Speaker 6: That's my legislation.
- 1:07:08Speaker 16: My opponent thinks that that's wasteful, that you know, that
- 1:07:12Speaker 16: we shouldn't be concerned about stuff like that. But yeah,
- 1:07:15Speaker 16: James Tallarico, James Tallarico is all about the trans baby.
- 1:07:19Speaker 16: He is just trans transnational James.
- 1:07:21Speaker 6: He's just all about it.
- 1:07:23Speaker 3: Well, you know how much he loves those trans kids. Hey,
- 1:07:25Speaker 3: tell us about your race. You've got to be a
- 1:07:27Speaker 3: Trump plus district. What, what Trump plus are you and
- 1:07:31Speaker 3: how's your polling looking?
- 1:07:33Speaker 16: It's Trump plus 10 and polling polling's tight right now.
- 1:07:38Speaker 6: I mean, this is just a really weird time.
- 1:07:41Speaker 16: So, I'm really grateful because it was people, you know,
- 1:07:44Speaker 16: basically from all over Texas that came to SteveToth.com and
- 1:07:49Speaker 16: helped us.
- 1:07:50Speaker 6: We were grotesquely outspent in the primary, 10 to 1.
- 1:07:54Speaker 16: And this time in the primary, what the Democrats have
- 1:07:57Speaker 16: done is they've picked a very wealthy person to self-fund
- 1:08:01Speaker 16: against me. He's putting up $ 2. 5 million of his own money. Plus,
- 1:08:07Speaker 16: across the United.
- 1:08:08Speaker 6: States, they... Texas Blue, what do they call themselves? Blue whatever.
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: Act Blue or something.
- 1:08:17Speaker 6: Act Blue, yeah.
- 1:08:18Speaker 16: Act Blue has sent over $ 700, 000 into Texas and Congressional
- 1:08:23Speaker 16: District 2 to defeat me. And so this is a
- 1:08:26Speaker 16: targeted race for Democrats. They think that they can– it's
- 1:08:31Speaker 16: a test case. And the reason why it's so critically
- 1:08:34Speaker 16: important for them is that 40% of the margin of
- 1:08:36Speaker 16: victory for Ken Paxton– 40% of the margin of victory
- 1:08:40Speaker 16: for Greg Abbott, 40% of the margin of victory for
- 1:08:43Speaker 16: our comptroller and our lieutenant governor are all coming from
- 1:08:47Speaker 16: Montgomery County, my district. And so it's critically important that
- 1:08:51Speaker 16: we turn out the vote.
- 1:08:52Speaker 6: And we need help.
- 1:08:54Speaker 16: We just need help for people to come to SteveToth.com
- 1:08:57Speaker 16: and help us out.
- 1:08:59Speaker 6: Look, we can.
- 1:08:59Speaker 16: Be outspent, um, four or five to one. We can't
- 1:09:02Speaker 16: be outspent 10 to one like we currently are.
- 1:09:05Speaker 2: Stevetoth.com.
- 1:09:06Speaker 3: Are you getting, uh, uh, resources from the, um, uh, uh,
- 1:09:10Speaker 3: the house, uh, uh, packs and the other, uh, packs, Elon.
- 1:09:14Speaker 2: And all those guys.
- 1:09:16Speaker 16: It's hard because they have so many races right now
- 1:09:19Speaker 16: that they're defending that, you know, it's a midterm. This
- 1:09:22Speaker 16: is this is typical midterm when Republicans are in control of,
- 1:09:26Speaker 16: you know, Congress and the Senate and the White House
- 1:09:28Speaker 16: that it's going to be a dogfight. But I've seen
- 1:09:32Speaker 16: I was in Washington last week. I've seen the war room.
- 1:09:35Speaker 16: We have a really good chance of holding the House
- 1:09:37Speaker 16: and maybe picking up a seat or two. We just
- 1:09:39Speaker 16: can't lose any seats like mine. And it's just critically
- 1:09:43Speaker 16: important to hold onto this seat. So please, if your
- 1:09:46Speaker 16: viewers can come, anything, stevetoth.com, we would greatly appreciate it.
- 1:09:51Speaker 3: Well, Steve, you seem like you're highly amusing and you're
- 1:09:54Speaker 3: not as stiff like so many other politicians are.
- 1:09:59Speaker 2: I mean, you're not.
- 1:10:00Speaker 6: I don't tell my wife that.
- 1:10:01Speaker 2: Well, we got to call it like we see it.
- 1:10:03Speaker 3: And I'm very familiar with your area. These are nice,
- 1:10:07Speaker 3: normal people. And I think when they realize that, you know,
- 1:10:10Speaker 3: they're electing perverted, you know, they have a chance to
- 1:10:13Speaker 3: elect a perverted communist or a regular normal guy.
- 1:10:16Speaker 2: I think they're going to go for the normal guy.
- 1:10:18Speaker 3: So you should go to SteveToth.com and help him out
- 1:10:21Speaker 3: if you can.
- 1:10:23Speaker 16: Folks, listen, listen to Kurt right now and go to SteveToth.com.
- 1:10:31Speaker 2: Hey, we're unanimous. You got events tonight? Are you going
- 1:10:36Speaker 2: to be on the road tonight?
- 1:10:39Speaker 8: I am actually.
- 1:10:40Speaker 16: It's midweek service, and this is the first time I'm
- 1:10:42Speaker 16: going to get to go to church with my wife
- 1:10:43Speaker 16: in probably two months.
- 1:10:45Speaker 3: Hey, well, there's plenty of people in the pews, and
- 1:10:48Speaker 3: those religious people better vote, not the Methodists, though.
- 1:10:52Speaker 2: You don't want them voting. I'm Kurt Schlichter. This is
- 1:10:56Speaker 2: the Hugh Hewitt Show. Stick around. We've got more to come.