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Craig Bolerjack on the Utah Jazz in the NBA Summer League, Darryn Peterson's brilliance + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome in Utah Broadcasting Legend voice of the Utah Jazz
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  Speaker 1: Craig Bowler, Jack, who gives us a few minutes on
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  Speaker 1: a Thursday, fresh off of Jazz Summer League action and
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  Speaker 1: with plenty to talk about in this NBA offseason.
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  Speaker 2: Bowler, how are you, sir?
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  Speaker 3: Oh see, I'm good.
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  Speaker 2: How you been really good?
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  Speaker 1: It's been fun to watch this Utah Jazz team in
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  Speaker 1: summer league action. At least a young from this Utah
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  Speaker 1: Jazz squad, even without Ace Bailey with the injury situation,
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  Speaker 1: we had all these high hopes right this, Hey, you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get one of the top players in this draft.
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  Speaker 1: And the top players in this draft look like they're
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  Speaker 1: all gonna be really good.
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  Speaker 2: It ends up being Darren.
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  Speaker 1: Peterson and most jazz fans were happy just with the
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  Speaker 1: idea of it. Now that we've had an opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: see some of the reality, a very brief glimpse, early
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  Speaker 1: glimpse into the reality of what Darreon Peterson can be
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  Speaker 1: against other NBA talent, I think people are even more excited.
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  Speaker 2: Bowler.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us what you saw close and personal from DP
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  Speaker 1: in these first forays in the jazz uniform.
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  Speaker 3: Well in Seoul, Lake Oce. It was a splash. His
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  Speaker 3: first moment he stepped on the floor twenty eight in
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  Speaker 3: game one on that Saturday prior to the fourth of July,
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  Speaker 3: then answered back with twenty five on the Monday night.
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  Speaker 3: I go wow. You know fan base was, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: the attendance was outrageous. I gotta be honest for a
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  Speaker 3: holiday weekend, mind you, but they came to see Darren
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  Speaker 3: Peterson number two pick, first number two pick since way
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  Speaker 3: way back with Darryl Griffith in nineteen eighty. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm amazed at his skill set. Still has to maybe
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  Speaker 3: be more confident in his shot selection. You know, watching
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  Speaker 3: him last night, you know four of sixteen he takes.
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  Speaker 3: He is a heavy. You know, he'll take the load
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  Speaker 3: of shots. He'll be interesting to see how he matches
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  Speaker 3: up with Key in the back court than the distribution
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  Speaker 3: of shots with Triple J obviously and Larry Market and
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  Speaker 3: whoever they decide to put it the other spot up front.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's exciting. I mean, he's athletic, O see,
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  Speaker 3: he can do a lot of things. And the one
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  Speaker 3: thing I really do like is that he still is
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  Speaker 3: very involved with his teammates and dishing out dimes. It
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  Speaker 3: looks like he's got some defensive ability as well. He
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  Speaker 3: is an athlete, I mean, plain and simple, and so
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  Speaker 3: he can do a lot of things as he makes
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  Speaker 3: this adjustment, you know, into the NBA.
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  Speaker 1: So you don't want to over react to anything you're
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  Speaker 1: seeing yet. But the way that he appears to have
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  Speaker 1: kind of like every tool. He's the baseball five tool player.
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  Speaker 1: He's the guy who can handle the ball. He can
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  Speaker 1: play a little bit of defense. If he needs to
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  Speaker 1: explode to the hoop, I feel like that's something you
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  Speaker 1: might have to actually dial back rather than encourage. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he's got a shot that will continue to develop, and
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  Speaker 1: you don't really get a good sense yet, but if
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  Speaker 1: there is a limitation or if there is something that
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  Speaker 1: you know, this Jazz coaching staff is going to start
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  Speaker 1: working on with him or is going to try to
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  Speaker 1: get him maybe to improve quickly. Is there something you
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  Speaker 1: can identify as, for lack of a better term, the weakness,
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  Speaker 1: the blind spot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting, You know, the hype is hype, and you make
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  Speaker 3: a great point. Look, this is just summer league with
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of players that are hopeful that they can
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  Speaker 3: find a roster spot. It's not the case, however, for Peterson,
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  Speaker 3: but there's pressure there to showcase his skill set, which
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  Speaker 3: obviously lifted him to a number two pick with the Jazz.
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  Speaker 3: We saw what aj can do. Peterson was shut down
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  Speaker 3: for a couple of games, comes back last night, maybe
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  Speaker 3: a little rusty. I think it's just not forcing shots.
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  Speaker 3: And then obviously I think it's for the entire team.
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  Speaker 3: Is you know again playing team concept defense helped to
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  Speaker 3: help her. I know that's been overstated, but that's you know,
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  Speaker 3: that's the bottom line. Oh see what's been you know,
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  Speaker 3: the equation of success the last three champions I mean
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  Speaker 3: in Boston last year, you know, Oklahoma City, then last
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  Speaker 3: year in New York. I mean it's just a blend
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  Speaker 3: right of guys who go out, can be two way players? Offensively, yes,
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  Speaker 3: that's almost sounds like the easy part. But can you
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  Speaker 3: play both sides of the ball. Can it be a
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  Speaker 3: defender as well? And I think that's what the Jazz
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  Speaker 3: are really going to focus off focus on in camp
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  Speaker 3: comes Septen and then they move forward and from there.
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  Speaker 3: I'll never forget. It's been three years now, maybe going
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  Speaker 3: on four. It's hard to believe Will's heading into his
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  Speaker 3: fifth season as the head coach of the Jazz, but
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  Speaker 3: he made it very clear in the early stages of
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  Speaker 3: his career. In his debut as a head coach, was Hey, look,
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  Speaker 3: it's hard enough to make a roster spot in the league,
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  Speaker 3: it's even harder to keep it. And one thing for
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  Speaker 3: the Jazz you're going to have to play defense is
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  Speaker 3: to keep that spot. And I think that still echoes
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  Speaker 3: with what the league is doing. You know, the Big
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  Speaker 3: Three kind of has kind of just worn itself out.
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  Speaker 3: I think you're seeing more depth that teams want that
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  Speaker 3: if an injury occurs, you can then fill the slot.
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  Speaker 3: But who can help when where? And not be impacted
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  Speaker 3: in the sense of the awe moment. Go out and
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  Speaker 3: play because you've been there, and I think the last
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  Speaker 3: two years for the Jazz, the reps of all these
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  Speaker 3: players that get on the floor has got to help
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  Speaker 3: call your sins of ball Filipowski and the list goes
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  Speaker 3: on and on so that there's time and space when
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  Speaker 3: this when their numbers called, that they feel like they've
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  Speaker 3: been there. And I think that's really important for this
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  Speaker 3: Jazz team because it's a wicked West as you know,
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  Speaker 3: very competitive, and I think depth now is kind of
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  Speaker 3: the key for most teams around the NBA.
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  Speaker 1: I almost feel silly now because because Darren the way
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  Speaker 1: he's talked, in the way that we've seen him play,
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  Speaker 1: But you know, there was plenty of narrative, plenty of conversation,
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  Speaker 1: and I asked questions. I ask questions to you about
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  Speaker 1: like is this the guy who wants to be in Utah?
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  Speaker 1: He didn't come work out here. And we did the
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  Speaker 1: same thing with Ace Bailey and the rumors surrounding him,
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  Speaker 1: and like now, back to back years, both of those
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  Speaker 1: individuals show up, they sit down, they meet the press,
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  Speaker 1: they win the press conference, if there is such a thing,
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  Speaker 1: They answer things the right way, they handle it, whether
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  Speaker 1: whether they feel genuinely open to this or whether they've
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  Speaker 1: just been you know, media savvy enough, having been high
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  Speaker 1: level prospects for so long that you know, it feels
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  Speaker 1: like a big nothing burger, all of this fretting and
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  Speaker 1: worrying and wondering if Utah is the right place for
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  Speaker 1: some of these guys. And I know this has to
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  Speaker 1: play out and we've got plenty of time left to
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  Speaker 1: make a final decision on that, but at least for now,
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  Speaker 1: Darren Peterson is making it look like that there never
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  Speaker 1: should have been any concern over any of this. Is
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  Speaker 1: that a sense that you get, Is it time to
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  Speaker 1: put those things to bet?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think again you have to let
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  Speaker 3: time pass and see how you know he blends with
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  Speaker 3: the vets right, and what his workload will be and responsibility.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, Sietaya, it was like last year you
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  Speaker 3: mentioned it was Ace Bailey, who again you have to
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  Speaker 3: be careful here because social media is dangerous and what
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  Speaker 3: and what things are said sometimes don't come out of
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  Speaker 3: the mouth of the player. It's all jockeying for positions
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  Speaker 3: and through agents and rep representatives right trying to build
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  Speaker 3: on their client and they're trying to make the best
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  Speaker 3: deal for you. Well, you know, sometimes you wish that
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  Speaker 3: you could step in, but what we're dealing with now
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  Speaker 3: is eighteen nineteen twenty year olds who sit back and
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  Speaker 3: just kind of let someone else do their work because
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  Speaker 3: they're paying a very high level wage to represent them.
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  Speaker 3: I think Ace has turned out to be incredible. He's
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  Speaker 3: been engaging. I tell you the night of the draft,
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  Speaker 3: we are at Southtown, the shops of Southtown, and there
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  Speaker 3: was what five thousand or more people there. Ace come up,
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  Speaker 3: came up on stage with me to do a one
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  Speaker 3: on one, and I've never seen this young man so engaged.
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  Speaker 3: And that's a turnaround from last year. I think again,
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  Speaker 3: the spotlight is difficult to handle. You only play thirty
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  Speaker 3: games in college and all of a sudden, the stage
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  Speaker 3: turns brighter. Twenty four for Peterson at KU. I've had
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  Speaker 3: a chance to really talk to Darren that much, but
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it. But Ace and I spoke
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  Speaker 3: for five to six minutes. The crowd was buzz and
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  Speaker 3: hum and he was playing to the crowd, and I
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  Speaker 3: think he realizes, you know how fans. I mean, most
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  Speaker 3: franchises have terrific fan bases, or they wouldn't be in
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  Speaker 3: the city. The Jazz are special because they've hung. They've
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  Speaker 3: hung with this franchise through highs and lows and thick
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  Speaker 3: and thin. But for them to for them to embrace
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  Speaker 3: Ace and now Darren Peterson, young guys who they hope
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  Speaker 3: will bring them to the promised land one day again
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  Speaker 3: like John and Carl came up short, but can you
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  Speaker 3: get back with an opportunity. That's that's what the thought
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  Speaker 3: process is right now and the golden mind. But I
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  Speaker 3: think younger players need that time to adjust and understand,
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  Speaker 3: oh see what it's all about. I mean, let's be honest.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't have social media back in the day. I
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  Speaker 3: didn't have a cell phone. I was an overrun with
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  Speaker 3: you know, people all of a sudden immediately become you know,
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  Speaker 3: experts in basketball the NBA, and I think it takes
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  Speaker 3: time to adjust to that. And I think Ace has
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  Speaker 3: done a marvelous job in a short period of time,
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  Speaker 3: and I hope Darren Peterson does too, because the expectations
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  Speaker 3: are high and that's why you're making ten plus million
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  Speaker 3: dollars a year to fill that spot, and the expectations
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  Speaker 3: will continue to put pressure on him. But I hope
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  Speaker 3: you know what he is, what the flash is he
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  Speaker 3: has shown us Wow, I mean that feels good, and
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  Speaker 3: just to think about putting him around all stars like
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  Speaker 3: Jaron Jackson, Junior Lauren Marketing. You've got Keyante George who
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  Speaker 3: has up to his game to a higher level. It's
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  Speaker 3: fun and the depth of Jazz are starting to present
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  Speaker 3: us even makes it more interesting to get camp underway.
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  Speaker 1: Raig Boller Jack our guest here on the Sean O'Connor show,
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  Speaker 1: talking a little Utah jazz hoop. You just went through
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  Speaker 1: the cast of characters that Darren Peterson is going to
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  Speaker 1: be placed alongside, and honestly we thought that Walker Kessler's
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  Speaker 1: name would also be on that list. Yeah, when we
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  Speaker 1: got the final product, and obviously he's going to be
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  Speaker 1: in Lakers purple and gold this year instead and the
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  Speaker 1: Jazz get back a haul, and I just wanted you
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  Speaker 1: know your thoughts on that and how this team's going
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  Speaker 1: to adjust to It's not the exact look that a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people thought it would be, but man, once again,
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  Speaker 1: the Angels seem like they got the better end of
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  Speaker 1: a really good deal.
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  Speaker 3: It's amazing you continue to just put pieces for the
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  Speaker 3: future to continue to build and never let yourself get
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  Speaker 3: into a spot like the Lakers will be now with
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  Speaker 3: very few picks over the next what five to seven years.
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  Speaker 3: But you know what, though, the Lakers have the ability
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  Speaker 3: to spend the money and also to attract free agents
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  Speaker 3: to rebuild quickly, and the Jats don't have that. So
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  Speaker 3: they try to have picks and their pocket for Draft night,
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  Speaker 3: for trades, whatever it may be. And so you have
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  Speaker 3: to give the Angels a lot of credit for that. Now,
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  Speaker 3: Walker I like personally, and I think the Jazz fan
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  Speaker 3: base did too. A really good left hand shot blocker.
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  Speaker 3: I thought he was a terrific rebounder. Other teams around
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  Speaker 3: the league thought the same thing. The Lakers have talked
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  Speaker 3: about him for gosh a year plus. The shoulder injury comes,
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  Speaker 3: restricted free agency comes oc and I'd tell you that
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  Speaker 3: it can be a dangerous situation because, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: let's be honest, feelings come and feelings go. They can
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  Speaker 3: get hurt, they can go sideways or misrepresented in some
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  Speaker 3: of the language. And again you have an agent representing
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  Speaker 3: you on trying to get this deal done. But look, hey,
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  Speaker 3: I just give Walker the credit for talking to the
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  Speaker 3: Jazz fan base. He did it right. Hayward would probably
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  Speaker 3: like to have a do over. I think you would
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  Speaker 3: agree on his departure. But the Jazz didn't get anything
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  Speaker 3: in return on that particular deal. Gordon went off to Boston.
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  Speaker 3: The Jazz thought he was going to resign, and you
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  Speaker 3: know what, Austin and Danny and justin front office, I'll say, look,
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  Speaker 3: you know we're going to get something back in return
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  Speaker 3: because he is a valuable commodity in the Lakers. You know, agreed,
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I like him. I think he's going to
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  Speaker 3: do well in LA. But let's see what happens with
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  Speaker 3: the post Lebron era. Right, that's the only factor of
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  Speaker 3: what they're going to do in the Los Angeles. But
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  Speaker 3: all the focuses on the Jazz and out does Jaron
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  Speaker 3: Jackson Junior and marketing work up front? And what does
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  Speaker 3: Key do with Darren Peterson? Wow, I mean there's a
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  Speaker 3: storyline every time you turn around, and I can't wait.
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  Speaker 2: Big picture stuff here.
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  Speaker 1: Around the NBA offseason, Victor winbman Yama reached an extension
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  Speaker 1: with the Spurs. He got the five year max contract
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  Speaker 1: extension rather than the Super Max, which leaves about fifty
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  Speaker 1: million dollars on the table. For the Spurs to surround
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  Speaker 1: him with talent, have more salary, cap flexibility, et cetera.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, we're just coming off a year when
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  Speaker 1: the Knicks won a championship where their number one star,
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson left in his contract over one hundred million
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  Speaker 1: dollars on the table. Here's another big superstar doing the
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  Speaker 1: same thing, giving the team a discount and saying, hey,
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  Speaker 1: use this money to make me or to give me
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  Speaker 1: a better team. Is this a trend that's going to
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  Speaker 1: stick in the NBA?
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  Speaker 3: You know it may be. Oh see, Jalen brunts improved
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  Speaker 3: it first, right, build around me. You can't do it
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  Speaker 3: by yourself. And I think the concept of big three,
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  Speaker 3: as we were talking earlier, maybe is crumbled. Where you
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  Speaker 3: get more players that can give you support and more
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  Speaker 3: depth and if an injury does occur, it's not going
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  Speaker 3: to cripple you. And I think you know, for Victor,
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  Speaker 3: this is kind of scary for the West because all
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  Speaker 3: it does is make them stronger for the next ten years.
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  Speaker 3: And the Jazz are going to try to keep up
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  Speaker 3: with that with picks and will it translate into another
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  Speaker 3: contract and you know his extension that's forthcoming, so it'll
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  Speaker 3: be interesting to keep track of this. Oh see. I
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  Speaker 3: think it's fascinating honestly, because what does every fan talk about,
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  Speaker 3: you know, on your show and people who text or
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  Speaker 3: get a chance to call in and talk nationally as well,
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  Speaker 3: is what's enough? Now? How much? How much is enough?
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  Speaker 3: And I think maybe we're at that point in time,
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  Speaker 3: or even a player with a shoe deal, it's like, man,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I've got everything. I'm twenty what three years old,
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  Speaker 3: and let's go in because honestly, I think that through
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  Speaker 3: all of it. Yeah, you can be an NBA All
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  Speaker 3: Star ten times, you can be a MVP All Defensive
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  Speaker 3: First Team, but the bottom line is your legacy will
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  Speaker 3: always be submitted in what win championships? Yeah, championships, right,
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  Speaker 3: And there's nothing better to be on a winning team,
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  Speaker 3: even if you don't buy chance get into the Western
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  Speaker 3: Conference or Eastern Conference. Fives. Boy, there's been guys who
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  Speaker 3: sign but they struggle and watch a season go by
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  Speaker 3: with twenty wins. I'd rather this is just me and
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  Speaker 3: people say you're probably crazy, but I'd rather give up
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  Speaker 3: a few million. I can't believe I'm saying this because
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  Speaker 3: I'll never be in this position. But think about it,
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  Speaker 3: Oh see, would you rather win and have teammates around
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  Speaker 3: you and that you guys are building something for the
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  Speaker 3: future and the potential of having the opportunity to get
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  Speaker 3: into it a Western Conference final that would elevate you
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  Speaker 3: into an NBA Championship run. I mean, I find it
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  Speaker 3: bizarre that you just give up the winning part just
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  Speaker 3: for the cash. But look, I'll never be there. I'm
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  Speaker 3: more competitive. I think you are as well. I'd rather
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  Speaker 3: have team around me to say, let's go get this
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  Speaker 3: done and do it as one. Maybe that's two old school,
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  Speaker 3: but I kind of like the feeling that's going on.
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  Speaker 3: Brunton may have started something, and women Yama maybe he
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  Speaker 3: is going to continue the trend already has Let's see
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  Speaker 3: who follows well.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're right, and I think that this is
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  Speaker 1: something that will probably be reserved for like top billing,
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  Speaker 1: star level players, because those guys are going to have
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  Speaker 1: their several hundred million dollars, Like you said, with a
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  Speaker 1: shoe deal with the contract anyway you can afford to
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  Speaker 1: take five percent less, that's what that's what this translates to.
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  Speaker 1: For Victor Webbin Yama, that fifty that's an insane thing
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  Speaker 1: to say, But that that fifty million dollar discount over
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  Speaker 1: the life of his contract is going to be like
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  Speaker 1: that's effectively five percent. That's insane because you're given this guy.
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  Speaker 1: By the time it's all said and done, just his
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  Speaker 1: basketball salary is going to be more than a billion
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  Speaker 1: dollars in earnings.
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  Speaker 2: So absolutely, you can say what.
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  Speaker 3: Matters to me again, did you just say the magic billion?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and it's it's an eventuality for guys like
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Cooper Flag, for guys like aj Debonsa, for guys like
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Darren Peterson, for guys like Victor wembin Yama. If they
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: play as long as we think they're gonna play, and
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: this salary cap in the NBA keeps going up at
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: the rate that it's been going, These guys with a decade,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: decade and a half, two decades of basketball just from
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: their NBA salaries are going to be in the billionaires club.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: And that is something that even like John and Carl
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: and Michael Jordan, Charles Barklay and those guys, they never
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: had anything like that, So you can make decisions based
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: on it.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, never tasted that type of money. And you know
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: they probably think to themselves, boy, hell of a career.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: But I'm about thirty years too early, you know, in
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: the whole scheme of things. But hey, you know, for
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: time and place, they were still well paid for what
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: the NBA was. NBA was coming out of heaven. The
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: finals played on tape delay, remember after the Carson Show
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: or whatever, the Jay Leno Show on CBS. I mean,
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: it's come so far and it is such a worldwide
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: product now with multiple distribution channels of network and streaming
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: and cable. My gosh, the influx of cash is crazy,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: and the fan bases continue to come, and you know,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: they're buying jerseys and sodas and beers and hot dogs
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: in the whole nine yards. I mean, I think live
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: sports will always be that way, you know. Oh see,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: I keep thinking myself, how long can it continue to
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: be such a success. But there's something about the unknown
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: nightly drives me. I know it drives you on a
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: daily basis, is what's next? What can this game actually become?
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Look at yesterday or last night yesterday, I mean MESSI
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: too late assists and all of a sudden Argentina's in
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: and heartbreak right for England. So That's the beauty of sport.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Live sports. You never know the outcome, and I'll be honest,
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: I'm addicted. That's why I love what I do because
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: every night you sit down and put the headset on,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: you don't know the income. And I think now with
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: the Jazz that even plays into it more so because
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: with talent growing young talent and makes it even more
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: intriguing to see what kind of upset they can pull
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: in the NBA and how far they could go. I mean,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: this Jazz young team could be a real storyline in
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: the NBA this year. I'm just I'm just glad to
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: be a part of it.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Amen to all that.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Bowler, we got our fingers crossed for a great jazz
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: season coming up.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Thanks for your time. I always appreciate you, sir.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: All right, Oh say take care, have a good one.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: That's Craig Bowler, Jack the voice of the Utah Jazz
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: on television broadcasting legend here in our home state. All right,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: final segment coming, and look we got we got