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NFL Week 12 TNF Showdown | Steelers @ Browns | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Fall system, stone, clear the lifting, what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Everybody happy? Thursday afternoon with a man hoop? No Tambo
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  Speaker 2: in the building.
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  Speaker 3: So two man booth talking to little Steelers Cleveland Brown's action.
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  Speaker 2: Not the best football hoop, but hey, money to be made.
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  Speaker 3: Thirty six and a half total Steelers looking at three
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  Speaker 3: and a half point favorites. Gonna be sharing the stone today,
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  Speaker 3: for that's not always the case. You know, Tambo he's around.
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  Speaker 2: Who first thoughts on this game? How's your Thursday going?
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  Speaker 4: Thursday's going well so far. You know, a quick little
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  Speaker 4: personal story. You'll appreciate this one because I know you're
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  Speaker 4: always in the gyms. I think I kind of maybe
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  Speaker 4: save someone's life today. I don't know if it would
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  Speaker 4: have got bad extreme, but it was it was relatively close.
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  Speaker 4: It's a it's a gym story, so we'll tell it quick.
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  Speaker 4: And then you know, Tambo doesn't like our story, so
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  Speaker 4: you know it's better when it's you and I it's
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  Speaker 4: better when it's you and I to tell these stories.
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  Speaker 4: So I'll, you know, I kind of follow routine, now,
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  Speaker 4: do some cardio, do some lifting, and I've been hitting
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  Speaker 4: the sauna as I've told you, so hit the sauna
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  Speaker 4: and then the hot tubs right next door. So I'm chilling,
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  Speaker 4: you know, in the hot tub for a minute. I
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  Speaker 4: see this guy kind of stumbled really really good shape
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  Speaker 4: probably i'd say probably fifty, but like in really good shape.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, big dude muscles and all. I'm kind of
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  Speaker 4: stumbling out of the sauna, kind of walking my way
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  Speaker 4: and wobbly legs. I'm like, dude, this guy's about to
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  Speaker 4: go down. I said, he's going to go down. And
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  Speaker 4: there wasn't a ton of people in the area, and
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  Speaker 4: there's like a lap pool kind of in between the
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  Speaker 4: sauna and the in the hot tub. Well, he's like
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  Speaker 4: right up next to get like right by the lat
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  Speaker 4: pool and goes down to one knee and like falls
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  Speaker 4: over like right next to the pool. Like shit, this
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  Speaker 4: dude is going to pass out and fall in the pool.
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  Speaker 4: So like I hop out of the hot tub and
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  Speaker 4: no one else saw this happen, and I go up
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  Speaker 4: to there. I was like, you know right, and he's
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  Speaker 4: just like out of it. His eyes started rolling back.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, man, I said, are you okay, kind of
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  Speaker 4: shaking him a little bit, and he's in the sauna
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  Speaker 4: for for too long and like his eyes like, dude,
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  Speaker 4: get back up. So I kind of like lifted him
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  Speaker 4: up a little bit. There's a bench over there. It's
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  Speaker 4: like you got water or anything, the water bottles. I
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  Speaker 4: went and got him his water. There's a lifeguard. I
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  Speaker 4: was like, this, dude's passed out over here. But he
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  Speaker 4: bounced back. He's like yeah. I talked him after. It
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  Speaker 4: took a while. I mean he was sitting there and
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  Speaker 4: he was out of it. Said he was in the
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  Speaker 4: sauna for twenty minutes. He goes, man, the son is
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  Speaker 4: way hotter than the one in my other gym. I
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  Speaker 4: was like, dude, I said, twenty minutes, probably too long.
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  Speaker 4: And so that's how my day started. It was pretty
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  Speaker 4: pretty wild start to the day.
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  Speaker 2: I's it how good good stuff.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, yeah, hoop the hero for sure is
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  Speaker 3: everyone's saying how long do you think that sound sound
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  Speaker 3: of you?
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  Speaker 2: Guys?
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  Speaker 4: It goes between and you'll know if this is hot
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  Speaker 4: or not. It goes between like one ninety and two hundred's.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's okay, sound Yeah, yeah, that's good sound.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. So yeah, twenty usually it's usually one ninety five
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  Speaker 4: or so, and I do like ten to twelve minutes.
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  Speaker 4: That's good enough for me. I'm literally fully dripping sweat.
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  Speaker 4: This dude was in there for twenty and he's in
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  Speaker 4: really good shape too, Like I said, muscles a shorter dude,
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  Speaker 4: but like very muscular. Could tell he works out a ton.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, you hit hit the deck. The twenty minutes
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  Speaker 4: in the uh you know, one ninety one ninety five
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  Speaker 4: range was too much for him to handle.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'll give him.
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  Speaker 3: I'll give him funny props, the mental fortitude to do
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  Speaker 3: that when you know your body wants to quit to
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  Speaker 3: get to that twe mark.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he definitely pushed every second. That's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So like it's happened to me a couple of times,
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  Speaker 4: walking out of there kind of get like blurry vision.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, all right, you gotta get some water.
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  Speaker 4: You you know, pushed it a little bit too much.
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  Speaker 4: If I stick to like the ten minutes, it gets
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  Speaker 4: the job done good enough. But yeah, he's like he said,
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  Speaker 4: he was in there for twenty and almost cost him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, good good stuff, hoop.
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  Speaker 3: I want to shut out this man right here, Sean
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  Speaker 3: Salli fifty k yesterday, awesome stuff. He's always in the discord,
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  Speaker 3: been there since the beginning, grinding all the sports. Shout
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  Speaker 3: out to Sean Sullivan one percent. Nurkic gets the job done.
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  Speaker 3: Fifty thousand dollars. Awesome out there? Awesome or amazing?
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  Speaker 4: Is right? Go collect?
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  Speaker 3: the house maids to five?
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  Speaker 2: Who else we got in here? Austin appreciate everyone?
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  Speaker 4: Go ahead? Who mann? Nate's is a big gym guy too,
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  Speaker 4: so I know he definitely appreciates that story. Dad's a
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  Speaker 4: big fella. I'd still toss his ass around. But he's
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  Speaker 4: a big goal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got some pipes on him, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Let's yeah, let's talk some football.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess I didn't really get into the game. Goal.
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  Speaker 4: But it's thirty six and a half, very very low total.
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  Speaker 4: We have weather as well. It's looking like rain and
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  Speaker 4: snow throughout the entire game. I mean, it's going to
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  Speaker 4: be pretty damn cold wins not crazy. Roth has it
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  Speaker 4: ten to fifteen twenty mile an hour GUS. That's not massive,
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  Speaker 4: but it is probably enough to make a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of an impact. This could be gross, and the total
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  Speaker 4: shows it, I mean thirty six and a half. I
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  Speaker 4: guess the one thing that is positive for this game
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  Speaker 4: in terms of the fantasy because there's a lot of
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  Speaker 4: options on both sides, Like we have running backs and
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  Speaker 4: play you know, both quarterback can put up points. The
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  Speaker 4: wide receivers obviously can put up points. Both teams have
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  Speaker 4: a tight end. And we have Boswell, who I always
• 6:02
  Speaker 4: talked about on the showdown show. Seems like he ends
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  Speaker 4: up in the winner. Like regardless whenever the Steelers are
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  Speaker 4: on the slate and they're willing to just kick field goals,
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  Speaker 4: they're not a team that really pushes it on fourth
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  Speaker 4: down at Also, there is a lot of plays here.
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  Speaker 4: That's the one thing that is promising. Obviously, the low
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  Speaker 4: total not super appealing. The Steelers have a pretty good
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  Speaker 4: defense or a very good defense, and whether that's why
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  Speaker 4: we see in this low total, but there's a solid
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  Speaker 4: number of plays on both sides.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Another thing.
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  Speaker 3: My first thoughts on this late so Roth does have
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  Speaker 3: an orange for all the reasons who mentioned with the
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  Speaker 3: snow some wind. My first thoughts looking at the stone
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  Speaker 3: is Naji Harris Obviously Mega chalk or will be the
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  Speaker 3: most popular on the slate three and NAF point favorites.
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  Speaker 2: In a gross game, look at the stone right here.
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  Speaker 3: Brown c minus rush defense good against the pass vice
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  Speaker 3: versa for the Steelers they are more pass funnel. But
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  Speaker 3: you look in a really gross game. I mean Nick
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  Speaker 3: Chubb's two percent right here, a captain. That could be
• 7:00
  Speaker 3: an interesting spot. Another thing that I like about this
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  Speaker 3: game is it's pretty clear. Like some of these spots,
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  Speaker 3: it's like we're worth like the Cowboys we just talked about,
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  Speaker 3: who's the wide receiver four, who's the wide receiver three?
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  Speaker 3: Who's the wide receiver five? Like Turping gets one play,
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  Speaker 3: he houses it. But they have a million guys. It's
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  Speaker 3: pretty clear the Brown side have three Judy Tillman, Elijah Moore.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to worry.
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  Speaker 3: About any of those other guys in my opinion. And
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  Speaker 3: running back, it's Nick Chubb. When they're playing from ahead,
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  Speaker 3: it's drowing Ford kind of when they're playing from behind
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  Speaker 3: in pass catching.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you have to.
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  Speaker 3: Worry about anyone else there Steeler side, it's just Nausey
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  Speaker 3: and Jalen Warren. I guess if you want to say
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  Speaker 3: Cornerio Patterson twelve snaps last week eight before, but pretty
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  Speaker 3: much it's a two running back there and receivers on
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  Speaker 3: Steeler side it's clearly Pickens, Calvin Austin and then Mike
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  Speaker 3: Williams Jefferson. So I think it's more of a limited
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  Speaker 3: player pool, which also is nice as well. Any initial
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  Speaker 3: thoughts and then if not, just lead us right into
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  Speaker 3: the captain again, nause is leading the way and then
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  Speaker 3: we have Pickens in number two.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally totally agree with you. I mean for
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  Speaker 4: a few main reasons, Like, yes, it's very it's weird
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  Speaker 4: because these aren't great offenses by any means, but it's
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  Speaker 4: like consolidated, you know who the guys are, and like
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  Speaker 4: I don't think you necessarily need to take the risk.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't like any of these cheap guys,
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  Speaker 4: which we'll get to as we go through, but we
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  Speaker 4: probably don't even need to take the risk because there's
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  Speaker 4: nothing that we're reaching for to really spend on. Everything's
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  Speaker 4: pretty affordable. You know, no one's projected. I mean we
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  Speaker 4: have our highest projected guy is is it pickings at
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  Speaker 4: fifteen point six, Like that's a very low number. I
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  Speaker 4: mean we see a lot of guys, you know, these
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  Speaker 4: slaves where it's twenty twenty two or something like that.
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  Speaker 4: The highest projected guy is fifteen point six. So we're
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  Speaker 4: not really reaching to spend on anything. So as we
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  Speaker 4: go through we'll talk about it. But I want to
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  Speaker 4: eliminate as many fringe plays as possible today and then
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  Speaker 4: just really lock in. It is tough at Captain to
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  Speaker 4: kind of find guys that you want to play, so
• 9:00
  Speaker 4: maybe it's a slate where we can kind of spread
• 9:03
  Speaker 4: it out at Captain a little bit, but then just
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  Speaker 4: really consolidate what we do in the flex. So that's
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  Speaker 4: something that's kind of popping in my head in terms
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  Speaker 4: of other like Naji Harris, Yes, because of this weather situation,
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  Speaker 4: for sure is going to be very popular. Someone posted
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  Speaker 4: it in the chat last time when that you know,
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  Speaker 4: played in bad weather, twenty six carries like they'll do
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  Speaker 4: that for sure. They're favored by three and a half
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  Speaker 4: on the road, like his workload's probably like unlimited today
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  Speaker 4: if they're playing with the lead, or it's like an
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  Speaker 4: ugly game and sets up well for him. Like you said,
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  Speaker 4: the rush defense is very bad. So this is like
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  Speaker 4: game script perfect. I guess if you're going to be
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  Speaker 4: heavy on nausey, like if you want to play a
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  Speaker 4: lot of nause Captain Browns are obviously better when they're
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  Speaker 4: passing the ball. Now with Jamis, you get Jamis, you
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  Speaker 4: get all these pass catchers. You have four very solid
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  Speaker 4: pass catchers, Judy Tillman, Elijah Moore in Joku. So if
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  Speaker 4: you are going the Naji Harris captain route, you have
• 9:57
  Speaker 4: a lot of different ways to go, like a lot
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  Speaker 4: of different ways the flex. Other guys that I'm considering,
• 10:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm still gonna consider, you know, pickings up there.
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  Speaker 4: I don't really love Russell Wilson up top. I do
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  Speaker 4: think Jameis Winston somewhat interesting. We know what he can do.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, a guy that's willing to go back and
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  Speaker 4: just or not even him, but the team's willing to
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  Speaker 4: just let him throw a ton even in bad weather.
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  Speaker 4: I think that remains the case. So Harris interest in
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  Speaker 4: Winston obviously if they're playing from behind, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: much easier to pass on Pittsburgh than to run. And
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  Speaker 4: then I do like these pass catchers for the Browns too.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Jerry Judy, we just saw him come off
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  Speaker 4: a big game. Tillman's had some big, big games, Elijah Moore,
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  Speaker 4: David and Joku. So the way I'm kind of leaning is, Man,
• 10:41
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna probably play into the Naji Harris stuff, which
• 10:44
  Speaker 4: kills me because you guys know, I fucking hate playing
• 10:46
  Speaker 4: Najie Harris. But it's almost by necessity. Almost half do
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  Speaker 4: like if this was not a weather situation, if this was,
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  Speaker 4: you know, a higher total, I would totally be off
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  Speaker 4: nause But it's very difficult knowing the potential workload for
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  Speaker 4: him here tonight. So he's definitely my favorite Steelers guy.
• 11:02
  Speaker 4: I will have some Pickens, good connection with Russell Wilson.
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  Speaker 4: But then on the Brown side, I do want to
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  Speaker 4: play these pass catchers Judy, Tillman, maybe some Elijah Moore,
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  Speaker 4: and then David and Joku. So in regards to captain's
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  Speaker 4: probably a little more spread out than I typically go,
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  Speaker 4: but it's pretty clear I think what I want to
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  Speaker 4: do at that position.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in agreement with a lot of that, Like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm definitely up to play nause a big thing. He's
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  Speaker 3: nine point two K, and we have them pretty much
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  Speaker 3: tied with Pickens. Pickens is eleven K, Russell Wilson's ten K.
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  Speaker 3: So you're definitely getting a discount with Nausea, and we
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  Speaker 3: will talk about later. The value is not great on
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  Speaker 3: this slate by any means, which does lead me into
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  Speaker 3: some of these nadjokus of the world. At seven to
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  Speaker 3: six Tilman, I think strong at seven K, Elijah Moore
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  Speaker 3: at six point four or yeah, six point four K.
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  Speaker 2: I have interested captain, and you look at that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: They're all relatively held in check at captain three percent,
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  Speaker 3: Elijah Moore, Yeah, I'm definitely in seven percent, Tillman five percent.
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  Speaker 3: Judy just absolutely slings that thing. Even with this weather.
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: If they are trailing three and nat point dogs, I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna play some of that. I'm gonna play more Browns
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  Speaker 3: captains for sure, because I'm gonna play some Chubb if
• 12:11
  Speaker 3: they are leading, Like, just flip the bill. He's a
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  Speaker 3: fraction of the ownership two percent for Nick Chubb. We
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  Speaker 3: have a this layer captain. Even if he gets up
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  Speaker 3: to three or whatever. He's handling all the like when
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  Speaker 3: they're leading, he's getting the work.
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  Speaker 2: Third down, goal line stuff.
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  Speaker 3: He's getting the work is touchdown prop on the slate,
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  Speaker 3: second best at plus one forty five.
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  Speaker 2: It's actually interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody on the slate is favorite to score and now
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  Speaker 3: he's only plus one oh five. Pickens is tougher for
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  Speaker 3: me to get like he has the upside to break
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  Speaker 3: any slate and Russell just throw it deep to him.
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  Speaker 3: But he's eleven k. That is way up there, especially
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  Speaker 3: on the slate. I don't love value, and I don't
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  Speaker 3: love Russell Wilson either. He can get it done with
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  Speaker 3: his legs a little bit, I guess, but it feels
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  Speaker 3: like Kelvin Austin would have to catch one, Pickens would
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  Speaker 3: have to get one, He'd have to rush one.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel better.
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  Speaker 3: I feel safe not playing Russell Wilson up top underweight.
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  Speaker 3: Pickens nause for me, and then I think I'm just
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  Speaker 3: gonna play the Najoku Judy Tillman Chubb and just hope
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  Speaker 3: one of these Browns are captain. For the most part,
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  Speaker 3: I just love watching Jamis run this offense, and I
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: think the Steelers really want to slow the game down
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  Speaker 3: and run it with Naji Harris twenty five times, So
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  Speaker 3: I'll play Nazi Chalk at captain that way. Any thoughts
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  Speaker 3: on those like mid tier guys, any cheap captains for
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  Speaker 3: you defense?
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  Speaker 2: Any final thoughts at captain?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the one thing that definitely stands out,
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  Speaker 4: like we talked about it, the Naji Harris thing, and
• 13:35
  Speaker 4: I man, it pains me, but I just have to
• 13:38
  Speaker 4: be there on the sled. I mean you could totally
• 13:39
  Speaker 4: see him getting like twenty eight touches, like you know,
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  Speaker 4: twenty four carries and a couple of receptions, find the
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  Speaker 4: end zone once or twice. So I gotta play that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: maybe maybe it's not Pickens. I don't know, like he
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: is getting ownership. Andy is very expensive, so you know,
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  Speaker 4: maybe it's not as much him. He's coming in as
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  Speaker 4: the second highest owned captain. So if I do play Pickens,
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  Speaker 4: which I'll have all my stuff up within hour or
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  Speaker 4: two after the show, it's not going to be like
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  Speaker 4: way over the field. It might be just like right
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  Speaker 4: around the field Pickens Captain, or maybe a little below
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  Speaker 4: maybe just play like fifteen percent Pickens Captain. Potentially I
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  Speaker 4: don't know. We'll see when I get in there, but
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  Speaker 4: it's definitely nausey. The interesting thing to me is like
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  Speaker 4: Russell Wilson is showing higher ownership in the Captain than
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  Speaker 4: like Jamis Winston, Like I definitely want.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if that right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. Other sources are kind of showing
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  Speaker 4: the same thing, which is wild to me. I do
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  Speaker 4: think it ends up closer if not Jamis, Like I don't,
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  Speaker 4: I'm with you, like I just without diving deep into
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  Speaker 4: it before, like I thought for sure Jamis would have
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  Speaker 4: higher ownership than than Russell Wilson. But hopefully that holds true.
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  Speaker 4: I really hope that hopes Yeah, if that holds true,
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  Speaker 4: I like the Winston stuff, like even more like definitely
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: even more so in on him. The one spot I
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: will disagree is I'm just not playing Nick Chubb up top.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just not doing it at nine K. I just
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  Speaker 4: I get it, like no ownership at all, and if
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: he does have multiple touchdown upside, but tough matchup, tough spot,
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  Speaker 4: Like I'm just I'm out on that one. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: go with all the pass cutcher zone and the court. Yeah, Winston,
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  Speaker 4: Judy Tillman, Elijah Moore and joke, I'm just gonna plant
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  Speaker 4: that great game script that it is nause on the
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  Speaker 4: other side, Steelers in an ugly win, and then the
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: second half the Browns are just chucking it, which they'll do,
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: which is nice. That's perfect, that's kind of what you want.
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: So I'm gonna mostly play into that game script and
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: and go from there and hope that that's the one
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: that kind of wins out. But man, it's it's an
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: ugly one for sure.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Any So that's the captain talk.
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: I like it.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: We're in agreeing with a lot of stuff, but last saying,
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: I want to mention with Pickens. Yeah, I mean we
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: have him as the second highest own captain at seventeen
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: percent his receiving prop fifty eight and a half yards
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: like Judy and the Joku forty five and a half,
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: Tilman forty three and a half, and you get a
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: lot of savings there. You can build your favorite Pickens
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: captain team. Switch it to one of those guys. Obviously,
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: you want it to make us like you're more likely
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: to play Janis if you're playing one of them, more
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: likely to play Russell Pickens et cetera. It is.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why you can leave the salary.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just to add them to that point. So it's
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: like very interesting when you think out think about it
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: like this. You look at Pickens ownership, Let's say it
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: is around seventeen percent. If you just eliminate that and
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: play the Browns pass catchers Judy Tillman, Moore and Djoku,
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: it's basically like the same percentage and you're getting four guys.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: In my eyes, I think you know, in my eyes,
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: I think one of those four likely outscore Pickens tonight.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: So maybe it is a Pickens fade. I don't know,
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: we'll see, but it's like, man, you get all those
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: pass catchers same ownership combined as and I will say.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe we're let a light on this, Like I
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if this comes up a little bit
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: Pickens maybe still I think fifteen seventeen. Like, there isn't
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: many options people want to click off top, which is
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: also why I wouldn't be surprised if Nase's twenty percent
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: got steamed to like twenty four, you know, mixing on
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: I believe that was Monday twenty nine percent. He came
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: in at and protected like twenty four to twenty five.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: So I could see this being a slate like who
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: do you click that captain the people that are single
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: entry or like handbuilding and all that.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: It feels a lot really safe to land on nause.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: But Pickens is the second name three in that point favorite,
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I agree with you. I'm going to be
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: taking shots on a lot more of those Browns guys
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: for sure.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Quarterbacks flex wise, you're always playing them.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: But any thoughts on like no quarterback lineups today or
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: do you want a quarterback in that almost every lineup
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: double quarterback builds?
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Any flex thoughts with them?
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough. I mean people always like that question.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: Can you play like no quarterbacks? Yeah, you can probably
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: get away with it today. But it's like if you're
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: playing a nause heavy approach, nause captain heavy, like you're
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: like not playing Winston seems like a mistake. I mean obvious,
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: it could definitely get there, don't get me wrong, but
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: like I'd feel more comfortable being way underweight on Russell Wilson,
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: which I probably will be then Jameis Winston tonight. So
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: that's kind of my approach, but more times than not,
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: like the floors are so high for these guys, Like
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: the conversation can always get a little back and forth
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: when you're talking talking quarterback captain. But in the flex,
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: like they just have. We saw it the other night
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: with like Cooper Rush. I mean he's a terrible play
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: not he's terrible fantasy player, but like he had a
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: ton opportunity ended up getting there because they just had
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: to throw the ball a ton. So quarterbacks have an advantage,
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: especially like in the flex. So definitely not actively trying
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: to not play the quarterbacks. I guess I'll get as
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: much as I can, probably force more Jamison, and I'd
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: be fine with underweight Russell Wilson in the flex, and
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: came down to that.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Yep, that makes sense. If I'm not playing a quarterback, I'm.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Probably almost always playing at least one defense, because if
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: no quarterback gets there, it probably has to be low scoring.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: The seven for seventy or something from like the Tillman's
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: of the World fourteen did outscore them, like C. J.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Strout scored a less in the last game, and they
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: put up a lot of points, So it'd have to
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: be defenses, and that our defense at least, and then
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: load up skill position position players get all the touchdowns
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: in full point PPR stuff. Let's get into running back again.
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  Speaker 2: Let's move into.
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  Speaker 3: The running back position, who again mentioned at the top.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: I think fairly easy. Five guys max if you want
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: to say, but clearly four running backs to play today,
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: nause you would. We talked extensively about Nick Chubb is
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: a clear pivot, only twenty percent owned in the Flex
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: two percent and their captain. Obviously he's way better when
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: you think they will be leading. If you think they
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: are trailing, though Jerome Ford's forty four hundred fourteen percent
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: I think is very fair. On the flip side, Warren
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: will get work either way whether they are leading or behind,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: but also is a little better pass catcher. He's a
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: pivot off of one of the chalk here plays on
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: the slate, and Naji Harris definitely going to be playing
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: some Warren Ford, Chubb and Nase. The last one I
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: would I will say is Corderyo Patterson. Again, value isn't great.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: This is more of a one to fifty stuff. You're
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: showing two percent. He had twelve snaps last week eighth,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: the week before. Most people watching this probably played ten
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: teams or less. I would not click Cordero Patterson. If
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: you're playing a bunch of teams, you will see pro's
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: place in Cordero Patterson. He's a good football player, but
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: not enough opportunity for most people.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: So break it down the running that position.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: I mean, we talked about just eliminating some of the
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: fringe plays, and like you know, Corderyl Patterson to me
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: is like a fringe play. I mean, I just I
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: don't know. I mean, I just don't know if you
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: really need the savings we'll see, but for me, it's
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: probably going to be out on that Naji Harris already
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: talked about. I mean, he probably ends up. I don't
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: even know if it's projected this way, but he'll be
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: the most popular guy on the slate. People are gonna
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: start talking about this weather situation. We know what the
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Steelers want to do. It's a good matchup. Obviously, probably
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: that much less than Pickings. That's a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: So I mean it's gonna get up there. But to me,
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: it's like, probably get as much as you possibly can.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: He's a guy that, you know, ninety two hundred could
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: easily be the highest scoring guy on the slate and
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: like just play them play him at a high rate,
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: but he's going to be very highly owned. Second favorite
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: running back is going to be Jerome Ford forty four hundred.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: You know, just if you're buying into this game script
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: that it's ugly and it's nag Harris, Jerome Ford is
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: a great guy to get overweight on, especially in those
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: Nase Harris captain teams. Jerome Ford, I think is a
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: phenomenal play forty four hundred like him, Jalen Warren moderate
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: interest like I don't know. Like again, I keep talking
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: about it, but I think Nase's going to be a
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: big part of what I do today, probably a big
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: part of what everyone else does it. But if if
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: it's a huge Nause game, it's probably not a big
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Warren game, So I'll probably be under on him and
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: then like Nick Chubb at nine K, like I'm just
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: i might just fade Nick Chubb and just say I'm
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: not you know, twenty percent, Like I don't think it's
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: going to be him sacrificing some shit at nine k,
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: like he's got he's got to put something up at
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: nine K. So I get it, he's coming in low owned,
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: But still looks like twenty some percent, what are we
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: showing twenty Yeah, are playing him like I might just
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: I might just fade him and hope that it's not him.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: So a lot of Harris. If you're liking Harris, Jerome
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Ford should be the number two you know, some war
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: maybe and then potentially fading Chubb. So that's kind of
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: where I'm at.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes sense, and twenty percent is a lot
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: to eliminate. Again, I'm gonna be playing Chubb, and it's
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: in lineups where I can drop pickings down to Chubb,
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Russ down to Chubb. Leaving at least one k gets
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: you different that way. I just like the running backs
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: in this game. I think there's four very viable options
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: that will be on the field a decent amount you get.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Nause obviously is the best play on the slates. Jalen
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Warren leverages off the most the most owned play on
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: the slates, and if he doesn't get there, Warren has
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: a better chance to score a touch on. If Nase's
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: not Warren Moore has a better chance too. I think
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: he's plus two thirty to score. So definitely gonna be
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: playing Warren. I think you can play Nause and Warren
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: teams again. They're both gonna be out there. Mike Tomlin,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: I think is gonna want to run the football. It's
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: a gross game if they're playing from the lead. Like
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: someone said, they like the over seventeen Naji rushing attempts.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: I like that.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: That feels light too.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: You can see Nage get twenty, Warren get ten or
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: something like that. Like they're gonna run the football if
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: it's a low scoring slate and they both fall in
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: the box once they could get there.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: So any thoughts on Nase.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: And Warren teams and you're not playing Chops, so you
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: would like the chop Ford stuff as much.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I guess the pit side.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the Nag or the Steelers like blowout games,
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: game script where they get up by you know, two
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: three touchdowns, like both these guys could find the box
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: and on the slate a running back finding the end
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: zone is probably good enough, especially at Warren's price tag.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: So if Nag gets a majority of the work, it's
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: one or two touchdowns, Warren gets a touchdown as well.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: They'll give him goal line carries. It's not like when
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: they get down there, they you know, immediately bring in
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: Naji Harris. They prefer them there. But Warren will get
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: some goal line carries too, So I'm not opposed to it.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: I would not be making a rule to exclude those
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: sort of builds. I mean, if they score, if they
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: win twenty eight to seven, more likely than not it's
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: probably both those guys on the winner.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, good breakdown, what's going on there? Always love to
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: see this message. Yeah, it hits home. I know, Like
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: I mentioned my size and gym teacher, they love d fs.
• 26:09
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  Speaker 4: it too, so it's uh, I love it. I love
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: when the teachers are supporting us.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Why why are we getting a couple of mentions
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: on Justin Fields?
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: I knew it is when I when I looked at
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: all the pricing and everything, I knew this was going
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: to come up. I absolutely knew it was going to
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: come up as a talking point. And for me, it's
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: an easy no. But you know when his ass comes
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: on the field, like, oh, here it is, here it is,
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: I'm not doing it.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm not doing it as well. Yeah, I
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: don't really have anything more to add it. Running back again,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: I think I like all four of them. Who doesn't
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: like Chubb? He likes the other ones. I like all
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: four at their ownership, and then Cornell Patterson would be large,
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: large field stuff like you have. You're playing seventy teams
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: and I two lines of Edison. Yeah maybe something like that.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: But value is tough. Let's get him the receivers room.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: And that's why I did like all four of those
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: running backs. And I'm probably gonna play at least one
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: running back on almost every team today, and probably a
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: good amount half too, because I don't love these Steeler
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: running backs by any or excuse me, Steeler receivers by
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: any means. I think Pickens is over priced. Kellen Austin
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: is my favorite. Like who knows what to do with
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Mike Williams. I'm gonna play some. I'm gonna maybe play
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: a little Van Jefferson. Am I excited about any of
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: those guys though? Absolutely not? And that is what leads
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: me to a lot of najok Who Elijah Moore, Tillman,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Judy Captain teams that are more mid tiers where I
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: don't have to go all the way down. But I
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: love those Browns receivers, just Judy, Tillman, Moore not playing
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: anybody else, all of them fairly in check in terms
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: of ownership Steeler side Austin is my favorite, obviously Pickens like,
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: but he's really high on I'll probably be under weight, Yeah,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: talk about start with Steeler's receiver room.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: For me and help me with these Mike Williams.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: Of the world.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's the challenging part of this late
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: and I think I'm gonna be with you. Probably It's
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: probably gonna be an underweight approach, and I'm imagining, if
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: you don't change shit, Calvin Austen is just going to
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: show up into a bunch of your lineups. Actually, let's
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: go ahead. I have the dry run up and I
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: haven't let me rerun it here because it didn't finish
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: all the way up. But I do want to pull
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: this up and just see because I'm imagining at two
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: k he's the guy I put three lineups. We want
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: the full one fifty. He's a guy that is going
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: to show up in a lot of lineups at two
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: k flat. I mean, he stands out as of value.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: He's projected with a pretty nice, pretty nice number. This
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: is running here, so I'll get back to it. But
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: that's the hard part about the Slight trying to figure
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: out the Steelers wide receivers from me personally, I'm not
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: forcing Pickens into my lineups. Like whatever I get a Pickens,
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: I'm rolling with like it's gonna be under what number
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: we show, and we're showing forty eight. It's probably gonna
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: be under that number, and I'm honestly fine with it,
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: you know, Mike Williams at thirty two. We saw it
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: last slight like with Turp in one play, These wide
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: receivers can just be the guy you need. Mike Williams
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: doesn't have that explosiveness, I don't think anymore. But Russell
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Wilson is willing to take shots, and I don't mind
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: him at thirty two, not like a core player or
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: anything like that, but I'm fine getting to him. Definitely
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: prefer him over Van Jones. And then Kelvin Austin, I
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: think you need You're gonna need to be a little
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: cautious with. This isn't going all the way to completion,
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: so maybe there's a mayb we're doing an update or something.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: But Kelvin Austin, I have a feeling you're probably gonna
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: be a little cautious with because I imagine he's going
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: to show up in a lot of stuff talked about
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: the Browns wide receivers, and I feel good about all
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: of them, like you and I both like them both
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: or all three of them in the Flex or in
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: the Captain. That means we are going to like them
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: in the Flex as well. I got this up, so
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: let me go ahead and share. We can kind of
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: talk through it this way screen. Sure, there we go,
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: all right, So and the Captain obviously a lot of
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Nagy's shown up in forty six percent of lineups, Pickens
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: coming into at fourteen, Jamis Winston thirteen, Russell Wilson, Friarmouth,
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: and then Pittsburgh D which we'll talk about because they
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: will get some ownership. Anytime these defenses look good and
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: they're expensive, people play them at a higher rate. And
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you recall off top of your
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: head what they were owned last late.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Thirty thirty nine, I want to say that Texans or
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: thirty two something it was, maybe it was it was
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: thirty nine percent.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: I want to see in them so much more than anyone
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: was projecting, basically, which is what we talked about on
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: the show. Not and paid off obviously. I mean you
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: needed them, but it is hard to get overweight on
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: a defense that is that highly owned. So they will
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: get some. But in terms of this, the main talking
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: point is I wanted to see what's showing up in
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: the flex and if Calvin Austin is so, yeah, there
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: you go forty four percent Calvin Austin. So if you
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: just blindly run an optimize, you're gonna get a lot
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: of Calvin Austin. Oh is only thirty six hundred well,
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: all right, we'll talk about that when we get there.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: But he's another guy that you're probably gotta be cautious
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: with because he's gonna show up a lot. So that's
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: one thing to take note of with the guy like
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: Calvin Austin. The floor is zero for Calvin Austin, Like
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: he has a floor of zero, which I believe he
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: scored point nine last game four, twenty point four, so
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: he has one game over five in his last seven games.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: So the floor is.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Very cal That ain't great for sure. I will say
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: this he brought up with the turbin.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was going to bring this up.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: And it's go ahead it no, yeah, go ahead, No,
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: it's I'm glad he did.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah for him, Steelers already a good play on defense.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Calvin Austin's a cheap value. Is it fun now? But
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: if you pair it, you do have more outs to
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: a random outcome.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, double dipping, you have to send you up the leader.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: But like if Calvin Austin returns the punt today, they're
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: probably both optimal.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Philly phantom.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: I believe it was when I brought it up last
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: show with the turf and then I said, I they
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: he did return a touch on it.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I didn't think he was optimal.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: I guess they both actually were optimal that day, so
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: the double dip did work. Again, It's a rare outcome,
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: especially because the kick returns kind of were taken away.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: But it's possible.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: Yep. Absolutely, What do you mean the kick returns you
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: don't get points for anymore.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: No, you do, but with how they set up kick
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: returns nowadays, Okay, I feel like.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: The numbers are way down and it's a lot harder to.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Have to be. You're banking on the punt returns for sure.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: I have no stats to back that up though, Like
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: they're flat footed, so maybe not, but it just feels
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: really hard to return.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to do both.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know the numbers.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, I don't play though, I mean definitely,
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: like if he returns a punt, like you're gonna need
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: him and you're gonna need Steelers defense. I don't hate
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: that pairing at all. Yeah, but yeah, if you come
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: up also the roster construction where it makes sense, you know,
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: absolutely put in there. It's more so like if you're handbuilding,
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: if you're doing one fifty. You don't want to tie
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: those together in every single lineup that you're building. If
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: you're hand building or doing twenty or something like that,
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: I think you can definitely get there and make it happen.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: But is it showing on these Browns receivers, Judy, Tillman more,
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: I see underweight on top right for both of them.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know it's going to be the case because
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: they don't have a high projection, like none of them
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: have a very high projection, which I'm hoping all this
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: remains true because I want to be overweight on that
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: sort of thing. So in the flex we're showing Tillman
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: at twenty eight. That's right around where we haven't projected
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: Judy sixteen. So underweight on Judy Elijah Moore, way underweight
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: on Elijah Moore.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: And I think ownership will go that way. So talk
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: about that a little bit. If you've had to rank
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: them again, you're going to play them all. We're not
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: here to be like Tilman's going to go off today
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: and Elijah Moore is going to do nothing. That's we're
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: going to be playing all of them. Yeah, I think
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: that's the right way. But if you had to rank
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: them because I do think ownership comes Tilman, Judy Moore,
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: and also looking at pricing. Obviously Judy the Big Game
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: last week. They both had it though Judy eight K,
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Tilman seven k more than six point four Tilman I
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: do think stands out in terms of pricing and ownership
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: and thoughts on all that.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So Tilman and Judy seem very similar to me
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: in terms of like probably ownership and like what I'll
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: end up on with both of them. I think Elijah
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: Moore is clearly the number three, but he's also going
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: to clearly be the number three uh in ownership too,
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: so it'd be easier to get overweight on him. You're
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: really banking on volume with Elijah Moore. It's a lot
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: of volume which could be there. But for me, it's like,
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: I feel really good. I like both Tilman and Judy equally.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: I'd say, I mean, if I had to pick one,
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: you know, maybe go Tilman. It was Judy last week,
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: Maybe they flip back to Tilman this week. But I
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: like both and then More would definitely be the third.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: For me, it's again it's a big volume play. He
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: needs like ten to eleven targets probably to make it happen,
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: which he could clearly in this game if they're trailing.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: But yeah, he's clearly the number three.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Anything else you want to talk about on ship Tomizer.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Let's see if anything else, So, I mean what I
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: would personally do, and then just like kind of rerun
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: it is let's say thirty three or something. For Friarmooth,
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: you could obviously do more. Calvin Austin, we've got forty.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: Let's just put in thirty. Let's see if it reruns
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: here quickly. For us, I just want to see what
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: it does for our captain ownership, which by capping some
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: of these cheaper plays, cheaper captains are going to get
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: bumped up in terms of ownership. The more expensive ones.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: What I'm guessing will happen, which is very likely, is
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: Pickens will be the one that comes down quite a bit.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Nausea will probably come down a little bit, but Pickens
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: at eleven whatever it is, and bigger price thing, so
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: it's not running. Hang out, see if we can get it.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: If not, I'll shut some stuff down, then rerun it
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: and see. But I'm guessing those expensive ones, Yeah, guys
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: like Pickens will come down, Naji will come down a
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: little bit, and you'll probably see maybe those Browns guys
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: get bumped up a little bit in the Captain, but
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: nothing substantially. It's not going to run, So we can
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: flip back to the stone and continue.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, looking at it. Yeah, look again, looking at the stone.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: I did want to point out just Elijah Moore when
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: you look at the ownership, hoo, said Tillman, Judy relatively
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: similar owned.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: I think that is the case.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Again, I wouldn't be surprised if this got bumped up
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: a little bit, but I do think it is relatively right.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Elijah Moore is clearly less owned than all of them. Again,
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: he runs like Tillman and Judy. It's almost one hundred
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: percent of routes Elijah Moore like seventy five percent is
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: But look at that props. It's all close. Tillman plus
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: three hundred to score. I'll say nadjoku because we'll get
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: there set in a sack. He's a pass catcher plus
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: three hundred, Judy plus three twenty more plus three ninety,
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: so all pretty close receiving yards. You do notice the
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: difference though, forty six and a half Judy forty three
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: and a half, Tioman thirty three and a half Elijah Moore.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: But what stands out to me for sure two.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Guys that I know will be on the field that
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: have upside, that are coming in relatively low owned and
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: don't break the bank. Jalen Warren at sixty two hundred
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Elijah Moore at sixty four hundred, both about twenty percent owned.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: I know I'll be playing a good amount of them
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: because I don't like a lot of value, Like I'm
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: going to play a little Mike Williams and Van Jefferson,
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: but I don't want too much of them, Like these
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: dudes are cardio machines.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: They rotate.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: They want to run on a team that wants to
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: run the football in a nasty game environment, Like I
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: don't want to go down to the ship with Mike
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Williams and Man Jefferson.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's Kelvin Austin. I'll be underweight Pickens. I'm
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: hoping these Browns guys come through.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: So if you don't have anything more to add at receiver, hoop,
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: let's bring it to the tight end position.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, tight up position. We talked about in Joku a lot.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: I'd like, you know, the one thing that's nice about
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: these Cleveland guys. The prices, it's not like FREEB prices
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: where they're like five K or something of the wide
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: receivers or six k, like they have legitimate price tagging.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: The same for n Djoku at seventy six hundred. Very
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: interested in him. We talked about him in the Captain.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: I'll play him up there, I'll play him in the flex.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: I think a very strong playing. The nice thing is
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: if you just run the optimizer, you're not getting much
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: of it, and that's gonna be the same for most people.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: So definitely want to prioritize guys like in Djoku. In
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: Djoku Pat Fryarmouth thirty six hundred, very cheap price tag. Again,
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: if he happens to find the box, he's probably optimal
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: tonight at thirty six, and what we're thinking is a
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: lower scoring slate, So good with him in the flex.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: And then the other guy that I kind of like
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: is this Washington guy. He's an absolute beast man. He
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: gets the ball and he looks like a offensive lineman.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: Very hard to bring down twenty four hundred. Very interested
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: in him. Aikins. You know, he's one of those plays
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: that I really just don't want to play, and I
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: have a feeling if I run my teams, he's going
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: to show up in them. So if I do play him,
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: it's going to be capped. But he is projected for
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: a number, and he's projected for what do we have three?
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: And at sixteen hundred, he's going to show up on
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: some teams. I'll definitely be capping that if I play
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: any like These are the sort of fringe plays that
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: we talked about early. You can obviously talk about him too,
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: but these are the sort of fringe plays where I just, man,
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: I don't want a ton of these guys tonight because
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: I think, you know, enough scoring Fantasy wise is spread
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: out where like five six probably isn't enough. It's weird,
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: it's weird slave low scoring slate for sure, But I
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: think there's enough guys that get nine, ten, eleven, twelve
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: Fantasy points where they're they're going to be the ones
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: that we're gonna want need on the optimal opposed to
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: like these punts that get like five or six at
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: the most.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: I'm with you.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: That's why I like these mid tier Browns receivers, the
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Djoku Captain stuff. Even Chubb and Harris don't break the
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: banks and the Warrens of the world old Like, I
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: agree with you, and that's why I don't love Pickings
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: as much. Russ the second highest, I don't love him
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: as much because I don't want to go look down
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: to all these guys. But would I be surprised, like
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: it might come the winner might come down to picking
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Cordero Patterson, Van Jefferson, Mike Williams, Jordan Aikins, and Darnell Washington. Right,
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: like one of that might be because all of them
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: will be on the field to an extent, and random
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: stuff happens, especially on Showdown. But like the confidence if like,
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: all right, let's say we had to pick pick one
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: of those six guys, who Washington's your guy?
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: I heard this guy. The par him thing got me
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: kind of excited and distracted. I didn't listen to your list,
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: And it's gonna be It's gonna be Washington for me.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: I've seen this guy get the ball and he is
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: hard to bring down. If he gets it anywhere close
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: to the to the red zone, I mean, he could
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: easily just take it in. So out of all those guys,
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: Washington is gonna be is gonna be my favorite?
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: I agree I think it has to be Washington out
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: of all those guys. His fifty eight percent of snaps
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: last week, sixty four percent the week before. Actually, so
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: he had the same amount of snapped as Friar Moth
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: last week out snapped Friar Moth the week prior. Very
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: interesting right there, obviously with a better pass catcher.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: But Washington's on the field a lot.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Looking at Aikins, Aikins last week twenty two percent, a
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: week nine to thirty two percent, He's.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Gonna be on the field.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: To be honest, I might even like Aikens more than
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: Mike Williams and Man Jefferson, Like I just can't. Van
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: Jefferson ran a lot of routes, like a good amount,
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: but he just absolutely never does anything. And then Mike
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: Williams I think I even like more than Van Jefferson
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: because if he does get a play, it feels like
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: it's a better chance for like a twenty five yard touchdown.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: But I think Aikins I'd rather than a nasty game
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: dump offs like he's solid.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: I think he maybe be.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: He plays into the game script of Cleveland passing the
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: passing the football, you maybe towards the Cleveland guys a
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: little bit more, uh, like I don't hate that, yeah,
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: But honestly though, it's like if we think Steelers playing
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: with the lead and it's Najie Harris, Like, if you're
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: choosing between a Pittsburgh or Cleveland guy, probably want to
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: go Cleveland in those games, Becaues for sure. Yep.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: That's where I'm at as well.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: And again if you're building for a different game script
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: like you think Browns get up and you're playing Chubb
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: and then you're playing Warren for a comeback, and Picking's like,
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: then I would rather go Darnell Washington or Van Jefferson
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: or that. If you think Steelers are trailing, so definitely
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: have your team build a story. Let's get two kickers
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: and defenses any defense kickers, Yep, we always go that way.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: What's going on? Easy bets? We usually know what Hoop's
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: gonna do.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: I will say, interesting stuff with the weather, some kickers,
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: I see an orange tag, some snow, some rain, gusts.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Kickers are interested on your take defense as though, there's
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: no doubt like Steelers defense is.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: At play today. Looking at ownership, well on where to
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: we got it.
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: Thirty would be high higher than whatever that number is.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Yep, so start right there. What are you gonna do
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: with that?
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: And a third of the ownership is the Brown So
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: a very similar slate we just had with the Texans Cowboys.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it paid off obviously for the people
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: that ate the defense chock. I mean forty percent. Like
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: we talked about Texans against the Cowboys, they got the
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: late touchdown and you needed them paid off last time.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: Could it pay off today? Yeah? Sure, I mean it
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: would be similar. You know, Steelers fifty four hundred probably
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: end up around forty percent, i'd guess. I mean that's
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: my projected ownership. I think it's probably right around forty.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: There's not a ton of mid tier plays that that
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: stand out. People are gonna like the Steelers today, and
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: you know, maybe it does pay off, but I personally
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: won't be able to get to that forty percent number.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: I'm curious to get your take. I mean, I'm gonna
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: play them, but it's gonna be underweight, and if they
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: or a touchdown or you know, put up like eighteen points,
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: you know, hopefully they're on the right teams. I'm not
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: going to win. So I'm not going to get to
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: the forty which I think is the number good with
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: the Browns though, I mean Browns are like you said,
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: it's substantially lower owned we're showing twelve. I bet it
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: is a little higher than this too, just because people
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: are going to start buying into this ugly game narrative.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: So I guess probably more. I don't know, fifteen sixteen percent.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: But you know, it's easier to get overweight on them
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: than it is on the Steelers defense in my eyes,
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: so good with either defense. I'll have both be underweight.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: On the Steelers and then the Browns. You know, we'll
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: see when I go to build kickers, A lot of
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: people are probably not going to shy away from them,
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: but when they see that there's rain and snow and
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: a little bit of wind, they might come in a
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: little lower. Boswell, he kicks in Pittsburgh all the time,
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: and it's always nasty weather. And this guy always does
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: well and puts up fantasy points. And I always talked
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: about on these Steelers slates showed on sl it seems
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: like he is always in the optimal And here are
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: some of his games this year. He had twenty six nine, eight,
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: eight and decent, not great six seventeen, fourteen, fourteen, four,
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: twenty four, so he has five games of at least
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: fourteen Fantasy points. If he scores fourteen tonight, probably on
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: the winner. Yes, there's some obstacles. The weather's not great,
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: it's not ideal, but he typically is kicking in shit
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: weather and gets the job done, so I'm not going
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: to really be docking him all that much tonight. He'll
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: be a big part of what I do. I hope
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: people kind of get off the kickers a little bit
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: less interest in Hopkins for sure. Like I mean to me,
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: it's not even close. It's like night and day. Like
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: I want Boswell by a very wide margin. The ownership
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: we're showing very similar within five and I hope that's
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: true because I'm gonna be way overweight on Boswell and
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: then Hopkins. I'll kind of just take whatever. If I'm
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: around the fielder a little lower, that's fine, but definitely
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: Boswell over Hopkins. Defense, I like both. I'm not gonna
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: be able to get to the forty percent, which I
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: think it is on the Cleveland side or on the
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: Pittsburgh side for defense, but on Cleveland, I'm probably likely
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: somewhere around the field I guess when it's all said
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: and done.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: I'm forced to play Kickers because I just don't like
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: the value on the slate. Really, but I do say
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: like I prefer Elijah Moore, I prefer Warren. I know
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: they are more expensive, but I do prefer the Kickers
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: over the dust balls. Like Mike Williams Van Jefferson of sorts,
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna play, I have the same take.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna play Browns D and probably be overweight.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: I'll probably be underweight Steelers like I was Texans because
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: they may get more steam. But if I thirty percent
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Steelers D, I'm fine with it. I think they come
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: in thirty nine something like that. Like it's a thirty
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: seven and a half total. Jamis makes a lot of mistakes,
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: like they can. Jamis can put up exceed their team total.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: They're applied for sixteen points. Jamis can score twenty one
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: points and still have three turnovers, take a couple sacks,
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: and then still get there right down.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: Question, Yeah, that's basically what you just said. Like, yeah,
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: play Steelers D four to two Browns lineup. Yeah, Like,
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: if you're playing a Jamis stack type lineup, Steelers d
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: is totally fine. This is like the example where it's
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: almost like not preferred to make this play, but like, man,
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: it makes a ton of sense. They guy, like you
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: just said, he can turn it over three times defensive
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: touchdown and his ashes right back on the field and
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: throwing it again, which is somewhat ideal situation. So I
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: love those sort of lineups. It is.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: I cheer for my quarterback all the time. Like I'm
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: trying to think, I don't know if it's a Tennessee game.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: Regardless of what it was. There was like three minutes left,
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: it was third down, and it was he got stripsacked
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: and they returned it, and I was like, that's the
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: best case. Your minus one or minus two on FanDuel,
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: which hurts a little more, means nothing when it keeps
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: the game closer. You get the ball right back to
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: the going drive down the field and you can get
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: nine points, ten points. Like that's why Jamis is so good.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: For sure, any pick sixty there always their fumble whatever
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: and they're in the red zone, Like he's going to
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: get the ball right back and he's going to do
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: it all over again. So absolutely right there. Yeah, that's DraftKings,
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: awesome stuff. I really have nothing more to add. I
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: think you and I pretty similar and a lot of
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: stuff we talked about outside of the Nick Chub stuff.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: And if you're right on that, you always talk about it.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: That twenty percent goes a long long way, and he's
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: he's obviously a pivot. But if you build Chub teams,
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: just paint the story. I think is the brand scheme
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: overview in this game is have your lineup telestories.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, if you go I mean, flip it,
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: if you go Chubb almost like Chubb better just in
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: the captain, like the Browns win this game, which is
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: it's only a three point three and a half point spread.
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: Browns can very much so win this game. So Browns
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: are playing with the lead, Chubb scores two touchdowns and
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: then you go Russell Wilson and some pass catchers. That's
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: going to be totally against what everyone's doing. I mean,
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: it's a total flipperoo. What does Tampba call it a
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: flipperoo dipperoux or whatever I can get the word for it,
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know, Yeah, something like that switcheroo, flipperoo, whatever
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: he calls it. But it's a perfect example that unowned
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: Nick Chubb and the captain Steelers pass catchers with Russell Wilson. Yeah,
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: it's gonna be like very very low owned.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: That's why I try and preach and mma. I always
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: build my slate plan. They used to have a great
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: three dollars twenty entry max. A one dollar twenty entry max.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: If you have a bankroll of twenty dollars, I think
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: you were better suited either playing the quarter contest, the
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: dying contests, using ship demizer, whatever optimizer, using building like
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty lineups. You can build one hundred
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: fifty lineups and spend less than ten dollars on DraftKings.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: They have dying contests, maybe Nickel. If you want to
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: do one dollar twenty entry max, I think you're better
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: building twenty teams than one twenty single entry.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: Now that's just me personally.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: That's how I like diversifying my portfolio, staying in longer.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: If you do that with twenty teams, you could have
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: two lineups that paint that picture. With Chubb, you are
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: overweight right away just with those two teams. All the
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: other ones can build Steelers. That's how you see like
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: sometimes in hoops MMA teams. He has one bubble all
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: the way to the right, all the other ones sprinkled
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: around like here there. You only need one because it's
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: so top heavy nowadays, MMA and NFL Showdown is similar
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: dupe sport, so to say, and it only takes one.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: And the thing about all that is the second nuts
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: sometimes pays nothing because it's duped up top. You're only
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: playing for that. So that's just me find out what
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: works for you. Tournaments. I've developed more into ny more lineups.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: Doesn't mean I'm playing one to fifty though, I almost
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: never play one fifty thirty to fifty, twenty to whatever.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: You can still win that way. So that's just some
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: side tangent that got to my head. Tucks and Fanda hoop.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: These owners these MVP numbers are wrong. I just put
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: it in our chat so this will be updated, But
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: our ownership's gonna go Russell Wilson, Najee Harris, Jamis Winston.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Outside of that, I think everything is different.
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: It's not too much to really add. Like Naji Harris,
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: I think ends up getting even more ownership. I mean,
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: he's only twelve thousand, not that it matters in the
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: MVP because they don't have the multiplier up there. But
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: at twelve thousand, he's gonna be very highly owned in
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: the FLEX, very highly owned in the MVP. Quarterbacks always
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: get a little bit more Pickens at thirteen to five,
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: I think he's at a pretty big disadvantage in this
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: game over on FanDuel without the full PPR Chubb I
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: like a little bit more over there at eleven five.
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: The one price tag that looks kind of overpriced, i'd
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: say is in Djoku at twelve five, Like he's more
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: expensive than Naji Harris over there. That will bring his
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: ownership down. But like in Winston MVP teams, I think
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: he's a perfect guy to put in there because ownership
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: is going to be in check because of the elevated
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: price tag. Steelers D nine to five, so they're not
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: getting like a massive bump. We talked about Boswell. Boswell's
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: ten thousand. That's interesting. So they got Boswell above Steelers D.
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: It's a pivot, Yeah, for sure. I like Boswell over
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: there definitely, And then all the cheap dudes there are
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: down there. Firemooth is only eight k, Washington seven K. Yeah,
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: there's really not much of a difference. Today, I'd say
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: between the two.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you. Like Nick Chubb will also
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: be very low owned on FanDuel, Yeah for sure. David
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: Najoku like, how is he priced one point five k
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: more than Judy, two k more than Tillman, three point
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: five k more than Cleveland. So that's what stands out.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: If you want pivots, it's it's Cleveland, guys. I think
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: on both sites Steelers are getting some love. Four to
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: two Steelers three three obviously popular, but yeah, awesome stuff.
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