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Best Of Full Interview: Tezlyn Figaro Talks Kamala’s Missteps, Celebrity Roles In Campaigns, ‘Push The Line’ Movement + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club morning,
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  Speaker 1: everybody is d j n V just hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: Charlamagne the guy. We are the breakfast club along the
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  Speaker 2: rosa feeling. And for Jess, we got a special guest
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  Speaker 2: in the building, the gentlemen.
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  Speaker 3: She's back, Miss Teslin figure Oh, welcome back.
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  Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, are you feeling Charlotte? Good morning, good morning,
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  Speaker 1: good morning, Lord.
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  Speaker 3: How are you feeling this?
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  Speaker 1: Feeling good? I am, I'm really feeling good. It's good
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  Speaker 1: to be back back with family. Choppered up, which y'all
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  Speaker 1: drop some dimes, named some names.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, here to.
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  Speaker 2: Get we were dropping dimes on test dropping downs on
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  Speaker 2: everybody from top to bottle. Let's start right off with
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  Speaker 2: the president presidential election. Why did VP Harris lose?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? Man, I should have rolled my white board.
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  Speaker 3: That many yeah, that many yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And the reason why it's important, I literally have my
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  Speaker 1: stuff in order because a lot of people MV said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, she lost because of this reason, she lost
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  Speaker 1: because of that. And it's really in the Midwest. The
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  Speaker 1: tornado requires water, humidity, when you know, multiple things reason,
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  Speaker 1: it's not one reason. And when I hear people saying,
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  Speaker 1: you know, oh, if he just did better with the messaging.
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  Speaker 1: Oh if they did better with the media. I've really
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  Speaker 1: kind of put together a list of flow chart on
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  Speaker 1: how basically a colossal fuck up from top to bottom.
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  Speaker 1: So you're doing yeah, we're doing atosy, we're doing to
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  Speaker 1: pull autops. So if we just really take it from
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  Speaker 1: the top, as we all said, Joe Biden should have
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  Speaker 1: never ran, we have to first, you know, start there.
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  Speaker 1: Should have never ran. He said it was a one time,
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  Speaker 1: it was gonna be a one term president. We talked
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  Speaker 1: about it multiple times. He actually volunteered that life to say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm only going to run one term. I'm coming in
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  Speaker 1: just to stop Trump immediately. Then they should have started
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  Speaker 1: building a base immediately right out the gate. Trump was
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  Speaker 1: still campaigning this entire time. We talked about it. We
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  Speaker 1: talked about how it was constant rallies, constant organizing. You
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  Speaker 1: and I talked about it on the Van Jones Show.
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  Speaker 1: We're saying, you guys really have to continue the organizing
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  Speaker 1: year round. And that's why I blame a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the people at the top who have the ear of
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  Speaker 1: the you know, of the candidates and campaign eltons, because
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  Speaker 1: they've been told this multiple multiple times. So it should
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  Speaker 1: have found a white man right then and there who
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  Speaker 1: was going to be next in line to build a
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  Speaker 1: white man, a white man, absolutely young white man, right
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  Speaker 1: then and there. And it's not Governor Newsom. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people keep saying that govern Newson will
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  Speaker 1: get swamped.
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  Speaker 3: So you didn't think Kamala was gonna win, you, no,
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  Speaker 3: right at the game? No, no, no question. He's a black woman.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, so that that's number three. So let's first
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  Speaker 1: get that. So they should have establish a bitch saying
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  Speaker 1: didn't do that? Governor knew somebody just want to put
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  Speaker 1: that out there. A lot of people like him, great debater.
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  Speaker 1: He would have got swamped. You have to remember he
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  Speaker 1: literally passed to be O K through twelve to have
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  Speaker 1: shared bathrooms with gender. So imagine what conservatives would have
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  Speaker 1: did with that all over the nation, the homelessness and
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  Speaker 1: all of that. So then, yes, number three, America was
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  Speaker 1: not going to vote for a woman of color period.
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  Speaker 1: And know, in the history of black women and white
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  Speaker 1: women allyship a lleged allyship, I have never known a
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  Speaker 1: white woman to give a job to a woman of
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  Speaker 1: color before they got it. That includes even McDonald's on fries,
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  Speaker 1: just not gonna have have you ever ever a white
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  Speaker 1: woman ever said you know what, I think you're more qualified,
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  Speaker 1: We'll go ahead and take it. They didn't give it
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  Speaker 1: to Hillary Clinton, that we're not going to give it
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  Speaker 1: to her. I know there was hope. I know you
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  Speaker 1: talked about, you know, believing in us, but it was
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  Speaker 1: never about us believing in us. It was about us
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  Speaker 1: knowing them. It's not about being qualified. This was when
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  Speaker 1: it came down to saying, they didn't give it to
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  Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, why would they give it to Harris? So
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  Speaker 1: that was to me an era right out the gate.
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  Speaker 1: But we had no choice because.
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  Speaker 4: Biden, I think Kamalot as a black woman is the
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  Speaker 4: only reader. Well, first of all, two things the last
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  Speaker 4: two elections, the Democratic Party need to be thinking black women, right,
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  Speaker 4: because if it wasn't for Jim Clydeburn telling Joe Biden, hey,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not endorsing you unless you promise that you're gonna
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  Speaker 4: put a black woman on the Supreme Court, I'm not
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  Speaker 4: endorsing you. So that's what made him endorse Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 4: He went South Carolina and changes the complexion of his campaign.
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  Speaker 4: If it was for Kamala Harris in twenty twenty I
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  Speaker 4: think a lot of us wouldn't have went out there
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  Speaker 4: and voted for President Biden. I didn't vote for Presdent Biden.
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  Speaker 4: I voted Vice presd Kamala Harss. I also think in
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, when you look at the fact that
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  Speaker 4: Joe Biden's presidency was dead, like completely dead in the water,
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  Speaker 4: and Kamala Harris came to the top of the ticket,
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  Speaker 4: raised all of this money, ended up having the second
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  Speaker 4: most votes of any Democratic nominee ever with seventy four
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  Speaker 4: million votes.
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  Speaker 5: I think that only happens because she's a black one.
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  Speaker 1: Well, two things can be true at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: There can be some positives they came with that, but
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  Speaker 1: there also can be some negatives. Where we look at
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  Speaker 1: the data, we don't have to guess. We looked at
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  Speaker 1: where white women aligned, we looked at where the Latino
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  Speaker 1: community aligned. We looked at the bottom line data this
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  Speaker 1: show Latino men.
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  Speaker 5: Was that was a surprise?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, why was it a surprise? No? No, Latinos have
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  Speaker 1: always the fifty fifty. They've always when you look at
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  Speaker 1: one you know, I organized for the Bernie Sanders campaign
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  Speaker 1: in Michigan. I was only black woman on the ground
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  Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen to helped lift that state. Latino community
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  Speaker 1: has always been divided. When you look at Florida and
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  Speaker 1: you look at the Cuban community, they've always went conservative.
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  Speaker 1: When you look at the Bernie Sanders the left side
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  Speaker 1: the California, they always go left. They have always strategued,
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  Speaker 1: and I ain't mad about it. They've always strategically been
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  Speaker 1: able to have leverage because they go fifty to fifty.
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  Speaker 1: You remember when Joe Biden told black leaders when he
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  Speaker 1: won right after you said yeah, right, and you said
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  Speaker 1: I owe you black people. Remember when they had the
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  Speaker 1: meeting and they leave the tapes in front of the
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  Speaker 1: Al Sharpton and all of them and say, y'all need to
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  Speaker 1: go follow Latino community be cause they're the ones that
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  Speaker 1: have the leverage. So I'm not mad at it, but
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  Speaker 1: we need to talk about it for what it is.
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  Speaker 1: There might be a black and brown coalition in New York.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I've talked about that all the time. But
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  Speaker 1: when you're talking about the set that changed too, they're
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  Speaker 1: moving over. When you talk about the South, when you
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  Speaker 1: talk about the Midwest, and particularly when you talk about
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  Speaker 1: the West. There is no black brown coalition, and it's
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  Speaker 1: okay for people to vote their interests. Also, got news
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  Speaker 1: for you, black men are conservative. Doing my Joe Biden
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  Speaker 1: whisper black people are conservative. I don't know why people
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  Speaker 1: want to keep, you know, making that not an issue.
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  Speaker 1: So when you're talking about black men and you're talking
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  Speaker 1: about other black people, with the majority of the country
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  Speaker 1: in the South, majority of moderate I know progressives want
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  Speaker 1: to sell a different story. But black people, for the
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  Speaker 1: most part of martyrn and a lot of them lean conservative.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to get into that when we get into
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  Speaker 1: the messaging, but let's just kind of go back a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. I agreed that there was some positives to it,
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  Speaker 1: but when it came down to it, when we looked
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  Speaker 1: at race, white women, to me, just like they did
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  Speaker 1: in the mid term, just like they did when they
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  Speaker 1: were with Obama. Then they went with Trump, and then
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  Speaker 1: they went back to Democrats in the mid terms, and
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  Speaker 1: then they flipped back. When you're talking about white supremacy
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  Speaker 1: and talking about positioning like what they did with the
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  Speaker 1: women suffrage movement, I just didn't see them doing it
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  Speaker 1: for a black woman over them. They didn't do it
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  Speaker 1: with Hillary Clinton. The only person that ever beat Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump is Joe Biden, and I agree.
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  Speaker 4: With but white women voting for Clinton fifty five percent
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  Speaker 4: voting for Biden. So the white women been showing out
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  Speaker 4: white women, white women have showed up three elections well.
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  Speaker 1: But but they were also comfortable with Joe Biden. Let's
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  Speaker 1: remember Joe Biden is one of them. Let's go back
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  Speaker 1: to what.
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  Speaker 5: Fifty five percent of white women voted for Trump over Biden.
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  Speaker 1: Right to align with white supremacy to a lot, because
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  Speaker 1: this is about white supremacy. This is about would they
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  Speaker 1: rather have their household ahead of you as as a
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  Speaker 1: black man husbands. That's exactly I's wrong, and people need
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  Speaker 1: to stop these pundents. Get them another They went against
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  Speaker 1: their own interest. No, their interest is their household. Your
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  Speaker 1: interest is your interest. My interest is my interest. When
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  Speaker 1: I keep hearing people say that they went against their
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  Speaker 1: own interests, no, they've actually aligned with their interest, which
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  Speaker 1: is white man, white woman, black man, black woman. That's
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  Speaker 1: the order, That's how it is. Black people on the side,
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  Speaker 1: check bottom line. We need to just accept that. I
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  Speaker 1: know we want to say BlackGirl, imagine over we want
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  Speaker 1: to say oh because black this and that black women
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  Speaker 1: can't save this country. We need to stop selling that dream.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get in position and understand what we can do,
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  Speaker 1: which is why I was talking about the local and
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  Speaker 1: state level, and stop trying to sell this timeshare scam
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  Speaker 1: because to me, it was a timeshair scam. I agree
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  Speaker 1: with you that there was really no other choice because
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  Speaker 1: Joe Biden was trash. We get that he was trash.
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  Speaker 1: So once they said, okay, let's rally around Harris. Now
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  Speaker 1: she's a Democratic nominee. Okay, so cool. We're with that.
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  Speaker 1: Black women raised thirty million dollars after Gate. Black men
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  Speaker 1: raised thirty million ours Gate. So now we're having to
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  Speaker 1: deal with who dropped this bag? Who dropped this billion
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  Speaker 1: dollar bag? And that's the issue when we get into
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  Speaker 1: how they spent the money. I didn't think she had
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  Speaker 1: a chance in hell. But once you decided to move forward, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so what do we do with the money? Black voters?
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  Speaker 1: They lost Black voters across the board. That on two
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  Speaker 1: across the board makes a difference when you're talking about Michigan,
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  Speaker 1: makes a difference in North Carolin. So that's where we're
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  Speaker 1: getting to your concern where you talk about messaging where
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  Speaker 1: the messaging was all wrong.
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  Speaker 3: I want to ask you about the money.
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  Speaker 2: Is it normal for candidates to give so much money
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  Speaker 2: to quote unquote entertainment When you see in that they
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  Speaker 2: paid this person to speak and this person to have
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  Speaker 2: that back.
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  Speaker 3: Is that normal when it comes to politics?
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  Speaker 5: Who did they pay to speak? Though?
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  Speaker 3: Well, allegedly we'll say people speA.
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  Speaker 1: You had to pay the speed, but the money that
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  Speaker 1: it took to get the set up, the advanced team,
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  Speaker 1: the entertainment. So let's go back a little bit. One
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  Speaker 1: hundred days was impossible even for a white man. In
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  Speaker 1: my opinion, I just want to go back to one
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  Speaker 1: hundred days. Running a campaign was damn near impossible for
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  Speaker 1: anybody in particularly a woman of color. So now we're
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  Speaker 1: in this one hundred day thing. In order to get
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  Speaker 1: people to come out, we do use entertainers, and I
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  Speaker 1: push back on people say don't use entertainers. It's important
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  Speaker 1: Killer Mike talks about it all the time. We need
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  Speaker 1: entertainers to mobilize. When you're trying to get that stand field,
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  Speaker 1: the twenty thirty thousand people, you have three days to
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  Speaker 1: do it. We actually need our entertainers. The problem though
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  Speaker 1: MV is the entertainers not necessarily being aligned with organizers
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  Speaker 1: on how to use their voice throughout the year. I
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  Speaker 1: would love to see pliers like work when an organizer
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  Speaker 1: throughout the year, not just election season, so that we
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  Speaker 1: can continue to have this conversation. So I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to shit on entertainers. We need them. But when you
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  Speaker 1: have one hundred days and you're spending more on entertainment
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  Speaker 1: setups and not on the ground, and you have organizations
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  Speaker 1: like until Freedom to make the matter they got and
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  Speaker 1: again we can look at the numbers. The numbers are
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  Speaker 1: available online, guys, So this ain't making it up. When
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  Speaker 1: you're giving organizations like that one hundred and fifty thousand
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  Speaker 1: dollars and telling them we'll make it, do what to do,
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  Speaker 1: that's a problem. No war is won by just the
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  Speaker 1: air force. I'm an Air Force veteran. You need the
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  Speaker 1: air force. Yes, you need the big entertainers, you need
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  Speaker 1: the media, you need the podcast that's the air. But
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  Speaker 1: you also need the ground, you need marines, and you
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  Speaker 1: need the army. And they bottom line, took black voters
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  Speaker 1: for granted, like we've been talking about for years. They figure, well,
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  Speaker 1: you know she's black, so that'll be fine. They literally
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  Speaker 1: shit it on organizations. One hundred year organizations got seventy
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  Speaker 1: five thousand dollars, one hundred thousand dollars. One hundred black men.
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  Speaker 1: I believe they got like seventy five thousand, hundred thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 1: So what is that saying on how you're trying to organiz,
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  Speaker 1: you know, with black men. So that's an issue when
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  Speaker 1: we talk about this billion dollar bag, and not just
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  Speaker 1: because of now envy, but also the infrastructure that we're
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  Speaker 1: trying to build. So midterms in March, and I'm independent,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm just giving you know what it looks like
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  Speaker 1: to build this house. You need this money flowing year round.
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  Speaker 1: They're trying to build now. So your opponent is over
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  Speaker 1: building a house with adding on, swimming pools, adding on garages,
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  Speaker 1: adding on all this, and then they come give the
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  Speaker 1: money two three weeks before the election is over. Before
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  Speaker 1: the election, black organizations did not get money until three
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  Speaker 1: weeks before. Literally they told the churches they yeah, nothing
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  Speaker 1: they can do with it, and then saying we're here,
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  Speaker 1: go tw hundred thousand dollars, make a doe to do.
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  Speaker 1: And what I found this time is the gatekeepers got
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  Speaker 1: gate kept because the streets was never getting the money.
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  Speaker 1: So when they were calling me dropping dives, hotels and
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  Speaker 1: we only got these only at that last time we
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of money, I said, I'm here to
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  Speaker 1: tell the streets and never got any of it. But
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: now as the gatekeepers got gate kept for the first time,
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  Speaker 1: Derrick Johnson literally calling out the campaign in an article saying,
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  Speaker 1: you guys are not spending money with black media. You're
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  Speaker 1: not spent money on the ground. We are literally starving.
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  Speaker 1: Most of these organizations had to use this money on
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  Speaker 1: their own and that makes a difference when you're talking
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  Speaker 1: about getting out the vote.
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  Speaker 3: Trump didn't use his money as much for entertainers.
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  Speaker 5: Didn't.
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  Speaker 1: No, he didn't at all. Well, he doesn't get a
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  Speaker 1: lot of earned media get a lot of earned Also,
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  Speaker 1: Trump has been organizing and he's never stopped for ten years,
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  Speaker 1: non stop. When you have a rally every month, when
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  Speaker 1: you're engaging people every month, when he's using social media,
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  Speaker 1: when he's using truth, he's okay, Twitter, you don't want
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  Speaker 1: to work with me, cool, I I'll just go start
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  Speaker 1: my own. He has a non stop organizing machine that
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  Speaker 1: democrats just don't do. They don't develop those relationships. They
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  Speaker 1: come in, Okay, we got six months, let's make it.
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  Speaker 1: Do what to do. So this is the result. And
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  Speaker 1: so people can say, well, that's just ten percent, that's
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  Speaker 1: just one percent. But when you add up those numbers
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  Speaker 1: across the board, it makes a difference. And I also
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  Speaker 1: want to say this, Black Conservatives, I want us to
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  Speaker 1: have more leverage. I also want us to have more
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  Speaker 1: positioning within the Republican Party. If you're going to move
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  Speaker 1: over to the Publican side, where's our leadership?
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  Speaker 2: You know when it comes to that she run again?
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  Speaker 2: Can Kamala Harris run again?
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  Speaker 5: Let's get through our points.
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  Speaker 6: Wait before you're going to move on to the next thing,
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  Speaker 6: I have a question because it's about what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 6: So you saw Candis Owens going back and forth Miss
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  Speaker 6: Tina knows about Beyonce and Beyonce being involved in in
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  Speaker 6: the rally in Houston to the point that Candas was making.
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  Speaker 7: It's kind of what you're saying.
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  Speaker 6: Do you think that how do you utilize a major
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  Speaker 6: celebrity like a Beyonce because she's not going to be
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  Speaker 6: on the ground, And what should Kamala Harris's campaign have
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  Speaker 6: done better utilizing a big celebrity of that nature because
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  Speaker 6: she's getting dragged for it because they're saying it looks unauthentic,
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  Speaker 6: and Canda's owns is saying it looks unauthentic and this
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  Speaker 6: is why you didn't win.
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  Speaker 7: But Beyonce is not going to be outside like you
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  Speaker 7: get what I'm.
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  Speaker 5: Saying, Like they filled the stadium in Houston to Beyonce.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to feel the stadium. And I'm an
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  Speaker 1: organizer first before I'm a pundits. So when we use
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: people like that to tell who never knocked on the doors,
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  Speaker 1: I kind of discredit what they're saying. She has to
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  Speaker 1: find talking points to talk about her opponent Perio point blank.
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  Speaker 1: When it comes to Canis owns, I use Killing Mike
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  Speaker 1: as an example. You know our brother Killer Mike. He's
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  Speaker 1: an organizer first, He's always been an organizer before he
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: was a rapper before Daniels say, he's an organizer. So
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  Speaker 1: when you go to Atlanta, Georgia, and you don't call
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  Speaker 1: Killer Mike to take you to the same spots that
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  Speaker 1: they took, the same Chick fil A that they took
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  Speaker 1: Trump to, the same the West side of Atlanta had
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  Speaker 1: zero signs on the ground when you don't utilize a
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  Speaker 1: killer Mike. They got barbershops all throughout Atlanta, and he's
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: literally made himself available.
• 13:25
  Speaker 4: You could have been sitting in Bank HC Food right
• 13:27
  Speaker 4: by the way. And to Ted's point, Killer Mike did
• 13:30
  Speaker 4: make himself available.
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: He made himself fact. This is a fact. And you
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: shit on that and you think that's not important. When
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: an organizer who literally has him and Tip has literally
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: put mayors in office, that's telling me how you feel
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: about your black outreach. Oh, they'll just do it because
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: she's black. Well, I got news for you. The black
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: vote went the opposite direction. It went the opposite direction
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: because people are getting tired of being taken advantage of.
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: They're being tired of not having this conversation year around Charlemagne.
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: And so when you guys did I'm just gonna go
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: ahead and say it. When you did the thing in Michigan, Yeah,
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: Zeke new Ara of Detroit sitting right there in the things,
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: I asked them, hey, campaign ever reached out to you
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: mean laughing and he said no, he said none to me.
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: You can't organize in Detroit and not think you need
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: to talk to a Zeke or a new Ara of Detroit.
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: That man not only is organize in Detroit, all over
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: the country. So when you think that people are just
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: going to do it just because thirty three percent of
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: Detroit is living below the poverty line, So what is
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: that telling you. You had Rashida Talib who organized the
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: arib American community that literally voted for Trump. Literally dearborn
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: voted for Trump. And then you had the Black vote
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: that was depressed, meaning just not even interested, saying fuck it,
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: you know the government, it's hurting my pocket.
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: Voted for Trump.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: Dear born. Oh well, you know they had the one
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: hundred thousand. They had one hundred thousand people go to
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: the point, this ain't being talked to about enough. One
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: hundred thousand people went to the polls to say we
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: are uncommitted. Remember she just sleep literally did a video
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: and said, Joe Biden, we ain't fucking with you until
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: there's a ceasefire. We ain't fucking with you. That was
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: doing the primary. Your number one opponent was a Democrat
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: elected official in Michigan that was literally basically telling voters
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: sort to sit out and had them go to the
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: polls to vote I am uncommitted. So that same Dearborn,
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: which she represents. She represents Detroit as well. Dearborn voted
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: for Trump. You look at that, You look at the
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: two three percent of of the black votes. They couldn't
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: get out of Detroit. So now you're talking about how
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: you can win Michigan. Those are the things you know
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: that people are not looking at. And Michigan had a
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: lot of leverage, but he won all swing states, you know,
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: so it wasn't just Michigan. But that's a real problem.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: You got black people starving in Detroit. You got Dearborn
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: asking for a ceasefire. You got the labor union and
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: this is how we won Michigan with Bernie Sanders. You
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: got the labor union. They won't strike all last year
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: the year before that, so those people were pissed. You
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: have the college students who were also pushing you know,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: anti war and removed college debt was an issue. So
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: those four or five constituents in Michigan made the difference
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: on why you lost. So it was a number of things,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: you know. It's not just one thing over the other.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: It's a number of things.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: The podcast was important. It is important to have podcasts.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: It is important to be able to reach thirty million
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: people at one time. But if you're doing that and
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: you're telling organizations like Until Freedom are organization similar that
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: here go one hundred thousand and you need to go
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: to seven states and make it work. When you have
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: the Church of God in Christ. Think they got one thousand,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: two hundred thousand and said, hey, go go make a
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: do what to do? It was impossible?
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: You know what I'd like to see. I agree, you know,
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: I think you got to hit them both right. You
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: got to have a ground game, man, you got to
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: have a mean digital game. I would like to see
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: some of the grassroots activists on the ground. I would
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: like to see them start adapting the social media as well,
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: because I feel like those organizations needed.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, the partnership. It's not just you know
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: one thing. I think a report today said one in
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: every three people get their news from social media. I
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: think it's actually higher than that. So we're not partnering
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: in social media and having that ground game to be
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: you know, to double it up. It's dead in the water,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: but you still have to have people knocking on those doors.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: And bottom line, they should have just bought boats. At
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: this point when you got one hundred days. Some of
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: these nonprofits that are out here, somebody in Detroit, you
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: could have funded them. You could have the same way
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Trump had Kwame Kapatrick, you know, the same way they
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: had Harry O. People, Oh what Harry Old doing? That
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: make a difference. So people's looking for partons in clemencies
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: and all that Democrats have pardoned far more than Republicans have.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: I asked Governor Westmore, why are you not talking about
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I think it was what close to two hundred thousand
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: people that he partnered for marijuana. Why are y'all not
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: talking about that? Why is that not something y'all talking about?
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: So when Trump brings a trick trick from Detroit and
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: people don't shave room, Who's trick trick? Oh? Nowhere is Detroit?
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: No damn well, who trick trick is? So when people
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: see that, they're like, well, shit, I don't know what
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: to believe that one two percent of falling off makes
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: a difference. Trump capitalized on the lost man, something I've
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: been talking about for fifteen years straight. The hood Whish
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: were the lost man. Men who felt like they were
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: not being heard, People who felt like they were not
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: being understood. Again, I'm talking to civic about black people.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not talking about this work and because that translates
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: to white working class, I'm talking about black people who
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: felt like they were not being heard, were not being understood,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: and Trump capitalized on that. People asked, oh, why did
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: he use Ambrose? Well, guess what she's from where?
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: That's a swing state, so you don't have to like
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: his shave room. But that was very strategic. It made
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: sense to have ice word vessel, you know, in Detroit,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: even though in the shave room, who is he? I
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: don't know? He is Detroit. That one of two percent
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: made a difference. Why didn't you reach out the Kaiomei
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Campatrick because he a fela? Is that why you don't
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: think it was important to at least, if nothing else,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: minimize your enemy. There's two things you do in the campaign.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Minimize your enemy, maximize your friends. You didn't even reach
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: out to that man for a conversation. Whether you like
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: what he did in Detroit or not, the man still
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: was elected, His mama was elected. He comes from a
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: very long lineage you know of folks in Detroit, and
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I think that's even it's worth having the conversation. So
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Trump was able to appear as if he was one
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: of them, which he was not. By the way, He's
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: a white man who obviously if black man could have
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: never gotten away with he got with the fellas, But
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: he was able to appear as if he was. He
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: was able to appear that connection. Why didn't they talk
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: about what Governor Newsom did in California removing the gang enhancement.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Removing the gang has you got homies who are literally
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: getting on the yard for the very first time. If
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: you do the crime, do the time, no problem with that.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: But in California, most people are affiliated with the gang
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: just by based on where you live. So Governor Newsom
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: has passed great legislation that has allowed people to come home,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: that has allowed people to actually get on the yard
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: for the very first time. I got ten thousand homies
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: right now in LA that were organized for the next
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: governor just based off that one thing. They didn't talk
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: about those things v because they sit in this elitist positioning,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: you know, of let's just not talk about that, you know,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: let's just let's go high and the go low. And
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Trump was able to capitalize on that. That made a differen
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: when you're talking about a ten percent Yeah, I.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Think I think it's hard for them to capitalize on
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: something like the new someome thing because it is something
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: that's regulated to California. Like, the first step back was
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: a federal a federal law that people act that. He
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: did a phenomenal job of showing, look, I bought this
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: person home, and I bought that person home, and like
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: there was other people on social media that would talk about, ma'am,
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: my people just came home because of.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: The first step back.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: I actually think the first step back people don't really
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: credit that enough. They want to talk about stimulus checks
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: and PPP loans.
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: But when you can.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Actually see one of your homies come home from prison,
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: that's a big deal.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we saw what happen in real time. But
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to push you back living on how
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: you capitalize against that, how you can capitalize when you
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: look at what Governor Moore was able to do the
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: federal when they took the federal for the marijuana.
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, simple possession marijuana.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: You show the connection. So yes, that was federal right,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: but Governor Moore was able to actually utilize that without
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: that federal partnership it wouldn't have happened. So it does
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: trickle down, but the Democrats never connect the dots to
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: show you this is how it actually works. Federal was
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: able to help the state. State was able to have
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the local and so on and so forth. So there's
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: ways to do it. They just don't do it, Charlemagne,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: because they feel as if, you know, let's focus on
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: these imaginary voters. Let's spend all this money on white women.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Let's spend all this money on Yeah. So Trump was
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: able to capitalize on that. Just another Remember this is
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: about margins in the swing state. So when you got
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: one or two percent that's saying I'm sitting on the couch,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: or one or two percent of saying I'm going in
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: a different direction, it makes a difference.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, especially when you look at the election.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think what Trump had seventy six point
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: one million votes, Harris had seventy four and it's just
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: all those margins she lost by the margins in a
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: lot of those swingstat So.
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: What you think about Trump's cabinet, and I guess his
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: choices for his cabinet right now, because I mean, these
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: are the people that are be gonna have to be.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think nothing. I think Republicans ran Democrats
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: ran is gonna be a dictator. Guess what they want?
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: A dictator. We've been saying this forever. We've been talking
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: about this day of bipartisanship, and let's just get it
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: through Congress, we said, Charlotmane. You know I said it
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: a many times, like with the George Floyda Act reducing
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: college debt, do an executive order. Everybody said, you can't
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: do a executi order. You gotta go through Congress. Republicans
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: are gonna change it back. If you get in, they're
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: gonna change it back. Guess what Republicans don't give them
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: about changing the back? They changed back, rovers what about
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: changing back a whole bunch of shit Obamacare and everything else.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Democrats refuse use to work as a dictator. They want
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: a dictator. Everybody's saying, oh man, he's gonna be a dictator, right,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: that's why they want. Oh yes, he's gonna take migrants out. Yes,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: that's what they wanted. People need to stop saying that
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: online is driving me crazy. Oh latinos, oh man, oh man,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: y'all about to see they want the immigrants people who
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: are legal, who will come over to the country legal.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: They are literally telling you, yes, we do. We don't
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: support illegal immigration. So people they're thinking, they saying something
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: on social media, y'all gonna see. No, they want a dictator.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: The Democrats ran on democracy, they ran on dictators. Shall
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: be a dictator day one. That's exactly what they want.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: A dictator. Somebody's gonna push the line. Somebody an't gonna
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: get damn back what Congress is talking about. Somebody just
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: say I don't care what the rules are. I'm gonna
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: do what I want to do. They want a gangster period.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with that.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't say dictator, but they want somebody that don't
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: give a fuck.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: And it's going to He said he was gonna be
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: a dictator on day He said that.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: On day one.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: But I think what people mean when they say they
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: just want somebody that's gonna say, you know what, as
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: long as things are getting done for the people, I
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: don't care how it gets done. Like John Stewart did
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: a great, agree great monologue last night, and he was
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: just like Democrats always follow the norms and Republicans don't
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: follow the norms. They gonna find those loopholes to break.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Which is kind of like dictatorship. Though he said he
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: gonna do what he want to do. That's what, damn
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: what politically, you ain't gonna play press. So I mean
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: that's saying I'm gonna do this, and if you don't
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: do it, it's gonna be hell to pay. If you
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: don't do it, you know, I'm gonna make sure you
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: don't win. If you don't do it, I'm gonna call
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: you out. We talked about this with Joe Manchin. They
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: let they set up now, Joe Managine, see this to
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: a Republican. We've been talking about this. This has been
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: going on for the last fifteen years. This loss was
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: not just what happened in the last one hundred days.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: This has been at least from my experience two thousand
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: and seven. I can name year over year over year
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: on what's what happened, on how we got it. And
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: then another thing I want to bring up on this
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: messaging abortion. Democrats ran on reproductive rights and democracy fail
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: right out the gate. You had states like Arizona and
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: the Bottle that had abortion on the ballot. So Democrats'
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: mindset is, let's put abortion on the ballot and that's
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: gonna bring you know, so people know get out to vote.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Gotv that's how do you get out the vote? Oh,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: they're going to go to the polls now that abortion
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: is on the ballot. Well, which you did, meet ballhead.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: You actually allowed Republican women who were pro choice to
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: actually vote for abortion and still vote for Trump. There's
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: no rule that says if you support pro choice that
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: you won't vote for Trump. So Republican women in Nevada
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: and Arizona literally have the opportunity to bring abortion back
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: and still vote for Trump. So Democrats shot themselves even
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: in the foot if you were expecting women to go
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: vote for reproductive rights because you gave them an out,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: and then that was a mistake out the gate. Look
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: at Michigan, Michigan. You can get an abortion in Michigan,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: So that don't land anywhere. I know people want this idea,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: especially black voters. Could we like to take care of everybody?
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: And oh what about them in Texas? But the average
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: person is voting their personal interest, that's it. And if
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I can get an abortion in Michigan, what matters to
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: me if you get it in Arizona or Nevada or
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: whatever it was. So when you're running on reproductive rights,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: which I think was a mistake, and just the marracy
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: people didn't give a damn about democracy well talking about
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: it when I was sitting there in twenty eighteen, those
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: first question you asked me out the gate, what do
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: people think about to say, they don't give it down
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: his white fo's white foe, don't give it about no insurrection.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: They'll do it again. This is what's been happening in
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: this country four hundred years. So the messaging was wrong
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: at the gate. We talked about that, not running on
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: the economy, not running But I still think though even
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: if she should have ran on all of those things,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: they still gonna vote for. They still would have rather
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: voted for Joe Biden. Have dead weekend at Bernie's. You know,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: they didn't even win Scranton. They didn't win Scranton. Joe
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: would at least won Scranton. Harris lost Scringt.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: I think I think Joe would have got like sixty
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: five million.
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: Book said, Okay, so, if if what you're saying is true,
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: what was all because I felt how you how you
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: feel now? It is how I felt in the beginning,
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: and then when I saw the excitement and the money
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: moving and all of.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: That, got a chance.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, what was all of that then?
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I didn't think it was gonna win.
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: But doing anything, we're not giving you no more money.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Yo'll have no choice, That's right.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So let's be clear they did not have a
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: choice because George, Yeah, they said they didn't have no choice.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: So two things to be true. At the same time,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: they had to put Harris in no doubt about that.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not disagreeing with that, but I still don't think
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: they would have voted us. They just wouldn't. They're just
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: not going to give something that they didn't get. First.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Did she do the best that she could? Yes? Did
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: she do everything they told her to do? Yes? Did
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: she have one hundred days to do it? Yes? And
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: this is not about shiitting on her. This is about
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: setting up a woman to fail in a hundred days
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: to do the damn near impossible. I think Joe Biden
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: should have took that l He's the one that said,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: you know, he was gonna run. He's the one that
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: set up there the entire time. They didn't build the bitch.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Let him take the L. Why now are you putting
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: it on Yeah, I thought it was like the friendly.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, can again? Would you advise her to run again?
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Because again we gotta stop with that. I don't know
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: what this subsession we got with federal I'm gonna keep
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: push that. Let them have it. Let's talk about especially
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Republicans now saying give it to the state if you
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: really want to make real change in your community. I
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: know it's not as sexy. I know it's not as exciting,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: but it really is at the state level. It really
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: is at the local level. If you believe in you
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: want to fund the public schools, you can do at
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: a local level. You say, you know what I want,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: charter schools. I want to be able to educate our
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: own You can do that at the local level. Why
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: are we so infatuated with this White House. I don't
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: get it. Why not be an Atlanta council with sixteen
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: other people in Orlando with six other people to be
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: able to say, I'm gonna write a check to the
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Black Business Investment Fund, you know, to be able to say, hey,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: here's some money to go start a business. You can
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: pass reparations at the local level. So I don't understand
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: this obsession that we have with this federal thing. And
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you, Lauren, Black women, a
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: lot of times we get caught up and it's wanting
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: to be validated so damn bad. So when the excitement
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: was there, when everybody's like, oh man, we can do this,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: we can do this. Black girl, manage we do this,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: we can do this, do this validation of needing to
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: be affirmed, need to say you are qualified enough, you
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: are good enough. A lot of that played into it.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: A lot of that played into it. But let's not
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: forget three thousand black women did a petition and said,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Joe Biden, keep your ass in. They ignored that and
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: went with the money. To Charlet Magne's point, they didn't
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: have a choice.
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: I agree with you, especially about the state thing. You know,
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: there's something else.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: Trump said that man landed, and I was I'm still
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: trying to figure out how did he land is because
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: it's so hard to get people to focus on this.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: The abortion thing.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Right, He told them, I wanted to be in the
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: hands of the state. So whenever you would have conversations
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: with people about, you know, abortions on the ballot, they'd
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: be like, no, Trump just wants it to be in
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: the hands of the state. I've never seen a politician
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: convinced people on a national level it's going to be
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: local and that's fine, and they buy into it.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Well, Trump can get anybody to buy in anything he say.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's a total man. Press have never been
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: equipped to run against Trump. Let's just name it, you know,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: let's just say they've never been equipped to run against them.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: He's too petty, he goes too low, he don't give
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: a damn what y'all talking about. Entertainer first, and so
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: they've never been equipped to go against this man. Never.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: But to your point, Charlemagne is for those that understand
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: the states rights. And when you go back to Reagan,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: the reason why black people are again said, is because
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: what it does is it disenfranchisse, disenfranchisise, it disenfranchise us.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Even more so if you're saying, Okay, in Oklahoma, you
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: can't get access to health care, but you can get
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: access to healthcare in California. Very liberal. These are folks
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: that can't just pick up, you know, and go to
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: California to get what they need, don't have the money.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: So it affects poor people in a very bad way.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: The states rights. But conservatives they like states, give it
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: to the states their mindset. If you don't like it,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: move somewhere else. But none of us had, not enough
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: of us have the resources to just move, you know,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: to somewhere else, to just move where things you know
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: may be favorable to you. So as black voters were
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: always trying to carry the lease of these and everybody
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: else and think about everybody else. But the reality is, Charlemagne,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: people are only looking at what's in front of their doorstep.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: And if I can do X y Z in Michigan,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: if I can have a successful business with zero regulations
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: in Atlanta when COVID it happened, when Governor Camp, you
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: know a lot of we don't like Governor Camp, but Atlanta,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Atlanta will still thriving. Black business was still thriving. Georgia
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: was still thriving. So when people look outside their door,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: when remember when the Santas reduced the gas, when they
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: was talking about you can't do nothing about the gas
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: when gas was so high, he said, oh no, I
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: can do something about it. This is why I talking
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: about state. So when people remember that, even though there's
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: more liberal, more Democrat voters in Florida, people remember what
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: affected their pocket and that Republican governor made a difference.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Kemp and Georgia made a difference was passing out Kemp cards.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: He did the same thing Trump did when he signed
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: his name. He gave them Kemp cards. People remember that.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: So you can have a state with a republic Democrat
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: governor like North Carolina, but they still went with Trump
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: because they're looking at how does it trickle down. You
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: can have a state that flipped and went blue, but
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: have a governor camp who's a Republican. People like their governors.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: People don't have to like Texas. You don't have to
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: like Texas in New York, but your money gonna go
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: far in Texas. As any felon in Texas they working
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: in oil fields eighteen dollars now twenty five dollars an hour,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: thirty dollars an hour. That makes a difference. So even
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: if they don't like Republicans, even they don't like Trump,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: when you're looking at how that affects your money daily,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: it makes a difference. And that's where they lost as
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: far as really trying to understand, you know, the economic conversation,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: especially with black people.
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: What else we got on the list, because I know
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: you got some money, now.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I got a lot on the list. I kind of
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: want to just deal with Michigan quickly because I do
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: have some concern with that. I mentioned Rashida Tsali, and
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not mad about you know how she was able
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: to organize her voters, but I do have some concern
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: for Detroit. I do feel as if Detroit does not
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: have the voice that they should have. That Rashida's leid
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: was able and she should I think she she went
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: hard in the paint for she's a Palestinian woman. I
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: expect her to. I have no issue with that, but
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I do feel like Detroit kind of got crashed out
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: a little bit that there's not representation. Detroit is one
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: of the blackest cities in the country, and so when
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: you had a few enough to say, you know what,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: but I just don't want to be a part of
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: the process anymore. And that entire conversation was on Gaza,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: and I know there's a talking point of progressive is
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: going to come in and tell you that the polls
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: say that black people are concerned about Godza. Yes we are,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: we do have We are very compassionate. But if you
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: ask the average black person, Black American on what they're
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: most concerned about, they're talking about again their own front door.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: They're more concerned about what's happening here over what's happening
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: in geopolitics right. So to be able to be to
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: be a single issue vote, I don't have no problem
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: with Rashida to lead, none at all. But when you
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: had three black women who ran Againstrashida's leave in twenty
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: twenty two, all three of them combined still didn't have
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: even half of rashida to leave passed. So she has
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: the votes, she has the power, but I feel Detroit
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: is not getting there, just doing at least being a
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: part of the conversation. And I hope that changes.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: What she got on that list.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: I think that said list, You'll got something else with
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: that to go over.
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: You know, I wanted to ask you about Hakim Jeffreys.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: Hakim Jeffrey said this week that he sees he says
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: Democrats are set up for a major comeback.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: You think that's possible, but what's the comeback? Me let
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: me know you come back. What's the comebacks?
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: I've never seen that that mixtape, but they still do
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: it anyway, and then they don't could I.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Don't think so, I don't think, first of all, and
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I forgot. I want to name a couple of names
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: because a lot of people ain't name the names. I
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: do encourage people to go look at that list. There
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: are two names that kept popping up over and over.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Quentin No dispect. I've never met him, you know, but
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: he was in charge of the bag. And also Cedric Richmond.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Now you remember when Sedria Richmond came on the Breakast
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Club and said hold him acountable. Remember that a couple
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: of years.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: I've been I don't even listen to when Cedric made
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: that statement on Breakfast Club and said, hold him accountable
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: if anything doesn't go to the way it's supposed to
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: go into buy administgration.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: And then he just disappeared. He left his position. We
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: didn't even know he left his position. I don't I
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: ain't pay static no attention.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Well he literally told grass Foot Organization, y'all just want
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: the money. Just say that. Yeah, we're saying that where's it?
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: And I'm saying it's completely I didn't ask for no check,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: don't want no check, not interested in no check. I'm
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: just telling you what the people said.
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: Ain't get none of the million.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: I don't want that million.
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: But they told black people that money don't like like
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: you need money for things like why is that such
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: a like a falsehood or something like, well, no, they.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Know they got it and just didn't come. Black folks
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: didn't go Yeah, sharp didgets We got five hundred thousand. Yeah,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: roller got his ship too. Roller, what's having a roller?
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Can let me hold something?
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: But money went out and they're still in the negative.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: And student when they're strange. They do it every year.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: They've been doing this like this. They do it every year.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: And it's again, it's not just on the entertainers, these
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: white liberal consultants who run this party. Because they do.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: And then they tell the black folks in charge, the
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: gatekeepers of the gatekeepers to tell them, okay, give them
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: one hundred thousand, give them one hundred and fifty given
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: to it. They kept lying saying all the money coming
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: to money coming. They literally didn't give it to them
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: three weeks until three weeks out. So now now you
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: wonder why you lost the black vote.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: They're giving them this money for so like for instance,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: rolling on in a reverend, Now what do they use
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: that money for it? The only reason I said that
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: because you just said that rolling with advertising advertising.
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: Yes, I don't know what. I don't know what.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Well revenue they they gave we really name the names
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: they gave International Action Network. They gave a donation to.
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: Him, two donations of a quarter million dollars.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, and so, uh, that organization is an organization, you know,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: the worst year round, I guess, you know, allegedly for
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that, you know, to be funny,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: but you know, for outreach. So, but again, it can't
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: just be on just reven ol. You know, it's not
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: just on you know. No, No, I'm glad, No, I'm
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: saying I'm gonna be clear. You can't just continue to
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: keep spending money just on reven ou you know these organizations.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Why are you not again, why are you not connecting
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: with these grassroot organizations who are literally struggling, literally struggling
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: to give them the money so that they can organize
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: year round, you know, in order to keep people engaged
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: in bottom line by votes. That's what they did with
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: the Latino community. They put in the mid terms. They
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: put thirty different community centers in Florida wasn't just about
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: vote and they was coming in trying to figure out
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: what they could get health care, trying to figure out
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: what resources they could get, trying to figure it. You
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: literally took care of the community. That's where that money
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: is supposed to go and be. It's not just for advertising.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Advertised is important, but it's more than that. You literally
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: are supposed to buy votes, guys, that's how it works
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: by votes. That sound crazy, Yeah, well's buying votes. When
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I say that, I mean if you got a nonprofit
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: in you in the hood, and I give you three
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: hundred thousand, and I'm telling you, use that three hundred
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: thousand throughout the year to do job training, Use that
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: three hundred thousand throughout the year to do resume building,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Use that three hundred thousand to put people in a
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: better position. Now people can feel it and say okay,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: and then that organization has a responsibility to say this
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: came from the Harris campaign, this came from X y Z.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: This is how we got what we got. And then
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: now people can say okay, I feel it. Like with
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: the first step back, they feel it, they can see it,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: they can touch it, and republics that have just did
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: a better job with that. It's not that Democrats don't
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: have the receipts, they just don't talk about the receipts.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Their messaging has always been poor and raggedy as hell,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: which is why I left in twenty ten. So it's
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: not that they don't have the receipts, they just don't
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: talk about They don't feel they have to. They feel
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: they know it all, and turns out they didn't know
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: shit at all. They knew it all and knew absolutely nothing.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: They didn't listen to any advice that people gave them.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: They said they knew what was best. They said, we
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: got this, and turns it out you didn't have it.
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest, I don't know how much well
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: I take that back.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: I do know there was a lot of people out
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: there that was giving genuine good advice. But what I
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: realized is the people who was out there giving genuine
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: good advice was the people who were really doing it
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: out of the goodness of their heart. A lot of
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: other people I heard talking, they was really upset they
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: wasn't getting no money, right, and so a lot of
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: the stuff that they were saying was literally just based off, Well,
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: when y'all gonna give me some mone when y'all give
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: me some money.
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: Everybody that I heard actually giving.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: Good advice was not getting paid by the campaign, right,
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: and those are the ones who aren't getting listened to.
• 37:32
  Speaker 7: Why Why can't though, why are you not giving me
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: some money?
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: Be a call signif but real, like, if you got
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: enough people saying we need, we need, we need, it's like, okay,
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: we need to figure out why do I'm saying we need?
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: Like that's common sense to me as a politician.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Well, you should be paying for it. The goodness of
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: the hard shit is over with. I mean, like, I've
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: done get this so hard for a long time and
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: it's basically gonna make you a full time uber dripper
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day. People got to get paid.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: But yes, people have their own interests on why they
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: were trying to get X, Y Z, and they pissed
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: because they didn't get the money. A lot of these
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: people that you're that you're talking about, they got paid
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: last time. They weren't saying shit about the streets. But
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: now that they got get kept, now was oh man,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: what's going on? You know, I've never had so many
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: calls and people saying, oh man, we didn't get this
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: and get that, saying streets bending't it. You know, I'm
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: talking about those grassroot organizations. They never were getting the money. So, yes,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: people have their own special interests on why they're trying
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: to get it. But it's a billion dollars. Pass it out.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: If we're gonna run this scam, this time's your scam,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: then let them then, yeah, give give it out. There's
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that as well. So whether they was
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: it was the goodness of the herd or good advice
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: because they had an interest, they weren't listening to anybody.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Charlotte Mane. The they really do believe that they have
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: all of the answers, like literally all of that.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: It was so wrong about everything, Like when they had
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: that whole oh black men aren't going to show up
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: and vote for the vice president, and you know President
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Obama was out there waving his finger at us. It's like, no,
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: y'all should be focusing on these white women, right right,
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: Like those are the ones that haven't shown up the
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: last couple of elections.
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: The Latino men.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: I didn't hear them putting the real emphasis on that either.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: But the Latino people didn't show up for them. So
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: it's just like I I just saw them make mistake
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: after mistake. And another thing I would say is you
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: had a presidential campaign that had trouble connected with the
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: working class, right because they had a bunch of consultants
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: who got backgrounds with these giant companies. Do you think
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: that they should just bring people on these campaigns that
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: are literally from the grassroots And to me, those were
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: the best ideas coming.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: From Yeah, okay, that's exactly what the best idea is
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: coming to another point. I'm glad you' about that us.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Charlotte Mane. Also a lot of friends groups, you know,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: people that were giving them hell online that they ignore that.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: They say, oh, that's just you know, Oh that's just
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: them talking. Oh that's just them talking. That's right, again,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: minimizing your enemy. So there were groups online that are
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: literally talking to fifty thousand, one hundred thousand people every week.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: You don't have to think that's important. But when you
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: got groups online saying reparations are not sit on the couch,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: don't do this, don't do that, and you're ignoring that
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: group as a as a real constituency, and you're saying, oh,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: don't worry about it. They just online well over time,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: because again a lot of these people and they rock
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: with me talking about this year round. See why you're
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: just talking about this last one hundred days. They're talking
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: to one hundred, one hundred and fifty thousand people every week,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: every week, every week, every week, and nobody pick up
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: the phone to say, hey, can I have a meeting
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: with you? Can I at least see what you're talking about?
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Can we at least have some kind of common ground?
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: When Democrats in California threw black folks under the bus,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: you know, wanted reparations, nobody thought it was worth even
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: having a conversation with the folks online that are giving
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: you hell. When you look at people, I'm just gonna say,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: the hamy Terita, she giving them hell online every day.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Nobody think you to call and say, hey, y'all did
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: a whole rally on reparations in DC. Let's have a conversation.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: What can we do to at least hear what you say?
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: So when you do that, that just continues the molilate
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: them to keep saying over and over and over, they
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: ain't fucking with us, And that makes a difference when
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: you talk about one and two percent in these minds.
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: I agree with you wholeheartedly, and I think it's about
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: when you do it.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: To your point earlier, everybody who's thinking about running in
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty eight, they should start campaigning now. Don't wait
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: until the year of the election to start reaching out
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: to these different people could do it looks fake, it
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: looks it looks like it's not authentic, looks like you
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: don't really care. Start making those connections now.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: But let me ask a question.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Do you think it should be that like Charlomage said,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: or do you think we should take a page out
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: of Canada's book and out of Francis book where it's
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: like there's a cap, it's a specific time limit, you
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, because people get fatigued and after
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: a while people like f all this issue. I mean,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: do you feel like we should go more into that
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: because now it's almost like big bake, take a little.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Bait, you know.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: I mean as far as campaign campaign and concerned, oh
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: should be shorter campaign.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Short campaign Canada have a specific time limit, whether it's
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: three months or a certain amount of money that has to.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it has changed. It used to be six months,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: one year, two years. Congress has to run every two years.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: The minute they getting off is their campaign and then
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: trying to raise money. So no, we are in a
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: year around. Donald Trump has changed this and will forever
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: be changed. This is a year around effort, year round resources,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: year around. That's why I do my training and push
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: the line, nonpartisan training, year around, getting people in position.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: That's a project. Twenty twenty five is all about. People
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: can think it's fake or not fake, but that's all
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: about putting people in position, putting people at the commission level,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: and putting people at the state level, putting people at
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: the state If they're not investing year around, if you're
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna bring plies into the game, then plies
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: partner with somebody like myself or somebody like Uti Free,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: somebody else to help bring this noise you're around. Because
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: what happens is the day at the election, you go,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: you go back to talking about what you're talking about before,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: and now you got to start the machine all over again.
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: I ain't said nothing from the car since the election
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: about all kind of stuff.
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: Well, he did say he had woke up. Remember he
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: said he missed the election night, but he woke up
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: and so he did say that.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: Then I ain't seen him talking about Starbucks and women feet.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: I ain't seen him talking about.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: It, right, And that's the man I love. I ran
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: for office in twenty eleven in Orlando. The first person
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I reached out to was Plies. I talked to his manager.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: He said, you know, applies don't due politics. Hee not
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: in politics. So to see him doing this now, and
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: reached out to him again. Since then, by the way,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: reached out to his manager to say, why don't you
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: help me get these people trained. You have a voice,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: get these people train. In two thousand eleven, said man,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: come on, let's do something with the hundred ye years,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: the one hundred years record that he got. Let's do
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: something about mass incarceration in Florida. So when I watch
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: him doing that every day non stop, his heartbreaking to me,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: because we do need our entertainers, but we need them
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: to I don't expect them to do the work year around.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Entertainers like getting applauses and see, this work is about
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: getting bulls. This work is not about applausing. They only
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: want to be no disrespect. But entertainers like responding to
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: the applause. So the minute you start booing them, the
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: minutes you start saying, I don't like you. What we
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: saw with Iceque when he took a chance and went
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: out there and talked about, you know, the state of
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Black America, and people started booing him and out. We
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: ain't seen ice Ques since ethon, so you know that,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: and people they can't take it. And then they say, oh,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I don't blame Ce for leaving, but I do, though
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: I love it. If I blame you though, because homie,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: you don't set up here and got it. I done
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: reached out to Q two, you got everybody excited. I
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: don't expect you to do the work year around, but
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: partner with people they can because we need we need
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: people like that. Glorially come talk to your homegirl like
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: GLORIALA need people in her ear too, to know she
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: got a head. I love a story. Why why are
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: we not connecting her with people that actually know her story?
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Sexy Red? Oh we don't need Sexy Red, Yes we do.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: She'll hold di moved. Maybe y'all don't know how to
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: talk to it, but she can go partner with some
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: of the homies that not even on the list at all,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: not even on a voter list. When you bring ten
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: thousand people into the fold, fifteen thousand people on the
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: fold is not even on anybody's list. That nobody's real.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: That's how you win these elections. That's why Trump was
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: able to make that difference on people who were not
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: engaged at all. But in order to do that, you
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: have to do it year round. You cannot do it
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: no ninety days before the campaign. It's never gonna work.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: Because I agree with you, I think I think what
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: we're saying is because I think that's what people think.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: People think that entertainers are the leaders that are generals.
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: They're not.
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: They're the soldiers, right, and you want them to be
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: the soldiers, right, to go organize the people to bring
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: them back to the actual general the people to actually
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: do them.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, yes, absolutely, And y'all can have the mic. We
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: ain't trying to take the mic from like we get
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: it to get the mic, but pass it on to
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: people that are really, really really trying to do it.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: I will do the heavy lifting, the organizer will do
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: the heavy lifting. Our platforms are never going to be
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: as big, you know, as as a cube or a
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: glow reala or a sexy grade. And I don't want
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: to encourage discourage them to get out because that's also
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: what's happening because he now they even put their cloud
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: on the line and then now you got enter Tay like,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not getting that shit again.
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: Man, fucked especially.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Exactly because you don't put them in position to make
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: it seem like, oh, all we got to do is
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: have Beyonce get up and talk and it's all that
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: and now you got her look like you said of
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: the candid's on people calling her out people and that's
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: not on her. It's not on Beyonce. It's not on
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: these But you do need people to get people to
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: the stands, but it's on it's the year around organizers
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: that they just refuse to do. So I want eye
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: entertainers to stay in the game. I just want you
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: to partner with organizers that really actually give a damn
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: about this work because we really do, you know, year around,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: and we don't have enough killer Mike's in my opinion.
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: Tell them how to connect with you, and you'll push
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: the line.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Movement, yes, push the line politic until something happens. And
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: thank you guys for supporting that when we did, I
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: guess was two years ago. When I came to Breakfast Club,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: we had over three hundred people. You know, they came
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: to Atlanta on their own dime to learn how to
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: be candidates, to learn how to be operatives, to learn
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: how to be organized. It's a non partisan training that
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I created. These people flew from all over LA, Dallas, Houston,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: New York. In the room, you know, three hundred people.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: That's why when people tell me, don't nobody want to
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: do this, they're not interested. That's not true. Jay was
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: there in the fact that she came to the training,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: came all the way from DC. These people were outside
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: at six am in the morning in the rain to
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: learn how to do this. They want the training, they
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: want to know how can I change on the local level.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: But we just don't have enough support to get around.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: So I'm asking people to text. Push the line all caps,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: push the line to sixty six, eight sixty six, And
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to get partners. Guys. I'm trying to people
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: over fifty cities have said, can you bring the training here?
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: But I'm teaching people in the training how to organize,
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: how to organize if.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: You want to be a candidate, if you want to
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: be an operative, if you want to be an organizer,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: whatever it is you want to do. I believe my
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: training is one of the best. And the reason why
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: is because it truly is a military mindset. It truly
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: is cutting through all the bullshit. I've been to all
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: the trainings. I've been a Congressional Black Caucus training, a
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: White House training, Yell Women's school, law school. I've been
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: to them all, and all of them sell a bunch
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: of bullshit, respectfully. You know, they come in and tell
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: you, you know, you're gonna have a stab, You're gonna have this,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: and that. My train is really designed to tell you know, Lauren,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: it's really just gonna be you with twenty dollars. How
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: can we, you know, move from that? So people are hungry,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: they want information. I'm trying to get people to partner
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: to help me do more of it because I can't
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: just do it, you know, myself and my own pocket.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: I can't. I don't want to charge people. People don't
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: have the money to pay for it. So we're just
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: trying to, you know, keep building up that momentum and
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: hopefully be able to do.
• 47:30
  Speaker 7: Any people that are to join, and you also looking
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: for I may write me a check.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: Oh you need you.
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: Make a donation right now? What you need?
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: I know, charlet, let's give one hundred and fifty thousand
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: we can go.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: For that's a lot.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: Now we can help get you that now thousand dollars holidays.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: And I do want to say that. Also, Wisconsin, I
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: don't know if y'all notice, largest black mail incarceration in
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: the country, the highest black femicide rate. Yes, more women
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: are murdered in Wisconsin then anywhere. They didn't give any
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: money to Milwaukee at all, So now you're expecting that's
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: what you were expecting. And also Wisconsin is one of
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: the most the least diverse state in the country. So
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: now you're gonna run a former state attorney in Wisconsin
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: where black men are locked up more than you know.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: This is true. Whether you like it, we got to
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: deal with what it really is. They weren't trying to
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: hear any of that. They shit it on Wisconsin. They
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: shit it on Milwaukee. They used to do hip Hop
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Week there every year. They don't have the budget to
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: do that anymore. They were trying to bring sake. How
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Tess and how can we come down get out the vote.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: They couldn't get twenty five hundred dollars together to say
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: let's get the vote out. They went to the white
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: voters in Wisconsin. So these are the kind of things, guys,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: that we just have to put on the table. I
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: know people saying teds, move on, just deal with it. No,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: we have to call this shit out, guys, because if
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: we continue to mismanage this money, then we're not, you know,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: actually getting the help you know that we need. And
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: it's critically important.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: If I text pushed the line to this number, that's
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: still work, all right, text pushed the line to.
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: Sixty six six. No, six six eight sixty six.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: Texts push the line to six six eight sixty six
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: to join the Texas email list for push the line right.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Thank you, We appreciate you for joining us.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Let me go through my list.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: No, it's all goodness. Doesn't figure out. It's the breakfast Club.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Good morning. Wake that ass up in the morning.
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: The breakfast Club